Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 2188: How to Properly Train to Failure, When to Eat Post Workout, the Qualities That Position a Trainer for Success & More

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Starting point is 00:02:13 So if you want to be selfless, you gotta be a little selfish. This one, we had to communicate a lot, right, to parents. When they always didn't have time to work out. You gotta fill your cup up first. That's a, it reminds me of the, you know, when you always didn't have time to work out. You gotta fill your cup up first. That's it. It reminds me of the, you know, when you're on an airplane, and they tell you not to put the mask on your face. 100% right.

Starting point is 00:02:32 Because the default is like, save my child right away. But you pass out and everybody doesn't. Right, right. And so I think that at, you know, first glance, you hear that advice and it seems a little ridiculous, right? Like what? Don't think about my family or don't take care of them first. It's like, that's not it.

Starting point is 00:02:47 You can't take care of them if you haven't taken care of yourself first. And so I think that applies here tremendously. It's the same thing. This is why when I eat ice cream, my kids always take the first bite. Just make sure I call it the dad text. It's safe, it's safe ice cream. Now, all joking aside, you know, all of us can think of this, right? We can

Starting point is 00:03:06 all imagine a time when we felt not healthy, not rested, or maybe we were sick. And think about just how you view things, how you react to things, how you are with people. I mean, we tend to be short, annoyed, more forgetful, less sharp things seem more negative. We're not as productive, right? When you feel good, it bleeds out into other people. When you feel good, you're more patient, you're more calm, you remember things, you're more thoughtful. You actually have the capability to help other people.

Starting point is 00:03:41 Without feeling good and healthier, without your health, you're of, not only are you of no help to anybody else, but you actually can become a burden. You can actually do the exact opposite of what you're trying to do because now they have to take care of you in extreme cases. I remember years ago, years ago,

Starting point is 00:03:58 I went through a really tough time because I had a close family member who was dealing with terminal illness. And I still went to the gym regularly, but it wasn't because I don't want to miss a workout, I'm going to, my gains are going to be, I mean, I wasn't going to progress no matter what during this period of time, which lasted about a year and a half. I knew I wasn't going to progress. I was too stressed.

Starting point is 00:04:21 It was such a challenging time. But I went there because I remember, I was like, this is, this so stressful, so challenging. We're not getting good sleep. I need to do something for myself so that I have some energy and capability to be able to be there for this person because they're gonna need me. And that's what I did.

Starting point is 00:04:39 I would go to the gym and it was, I mean, my workouts looked nothing like they look like now. Like I go in there and do really lie, kind of go through the motion, just kind of be present for a bit, because otherwise my mind was so occupied with figuring out what we're gonna do to either help this person, or you know, later on how we're gonna handle the inevitable.

Starting point is 00:04:59 So my workouts were sometimes I just walk, sometimes I show up and just walk, and really not do anything, string training related. But it really was part of the key as to how I was able to maintain, you know one of the most strut, I mean, in extreme cases, right, one of the most stressful things it's ever been measured when you look at

Starting point is 00:05:18 how stress affects the body is caring for loved one. So if you look at like, like, people who take care of their parents, when their parents start to, you know, get to the end of their life, or if you look at like parent, like people who take care of their parents, when their parents start to get to the end of their life, or if you're taking care of a sick child or partner, it's a massive stress. And in order to handle that kind of stuff, you have to be, you have to try to figure out

Starting point is 00:05:39 how to be your best in the context of what's going on. Now for regular life, nothing extreme, I mean, if you wanna be a good parent or a good partner, you're gonna do a better job if you're fit and healthy or if you're more fit and healthy than if you didn't do those things. This is the fact. And I just have to communicate this to parents,

Starting point is 00:05:58 especially moms, moms had a challenge with this because they're like, well, if I go work out, then that means- Ultimate martyrs, right? Yeah, so it makes a huge difference. Have you got, can you think of a scenario where you've actually seen that with yourself? Like you'd notice like, like a clear,

Starting point is 00:06:13 like I remember when that like, that light bulb like really went off of me. I used to say it as a trainer all the time, but I never had that problem of being consistent until I got older and had a family of kids. And then now you see that. Have you seen that in your own life where it's like, oh wow, I truly am a better version

Starting point is 00:06:31 myself when I do this. Like can you remember when that really life all went off? The biggest one was the one I shared because it saved me. It saved me from happening everybody else around this person. You know, because this was an extreme example, but, you know, they were terminal. So you, you just watched them deteriorate. It's really hard to do to watch someone you care about, and there's

Starting point is 00:06:51 nothing you could do. And everybody around her, you know, all of the people that cared about her, I mean, it just, it affected, it affected me too. But I was the one that went to most of the appointments with her. I was the one that she was able to depend on and count on. And a big role, a big reason for that was I was, I literally remember thinking, like, I gotta take care of myself. I gotta make sure I could stay healthy. I gotta make sure I could stay fit.

Starting point is 00:07:17 I gotta stay sane because otherwise, we're all gonna fall apart. That's the time that I can remember the most. We're about you, Justin. Yeah, I mean, a lot of it is like the sleep deprivation stuff and just the kind of going through a lot of financial things and all at once. And for me, it was realizing that we had to figure out

Starting point is 00:07:38 how to sort of defer things. Like I just naturally would take care of certain things that would alleviate stress and anxiety and kind of allow space for Courtney to be able to kind of have a moment, like workout, like go for a walk, like be in the world for a bit. And I had to do that in order to benefit the household. It was the same on the other end of that where she would know that certain amounts of sleep,

Starting point is 00:08:09 I literally needed because my attitude and just everything would be affected the next day. And so we've just, I guess, naturally learned how to kind of ebb and flow with that sort of division of labor and just being able to kind of know, I think that's the good part of having a partner too. It's like, you can point that out because, you know, Courtney, a lot of times

Starting point is 00:08:34 will be the martyr and she'll just be the one that's like, I'm just gonna take it. And I could just see her, you know, slowly sort of decline in terms of like energy and just like overall, like effectiveness and like snappiness and so the, you know, vice versa. But I think a lot of times you don't see it personally and that's the hard part. It's like it takes somebody else to kind of notice, you know, some of those behaviors and to point them out. And then once we learned that like,

Starting point is 00:09:02 oh my god, I feel like, you know, I just need a moment. I had to learn how to ask for help. I think that was the biggest part for me. That was tough. Like I had to be I need, I need to like space and I need to work on myself and then come back. And so it's been, it's been a lot of that like back and forth to this point. Now where we have it pretty much down. Yeah, I noticed it as a husband and a father. That's when it really like, when both different scenarios. So before Max, the first time I really made the connection

Starting point is 00:09:31 was, I think I've shared this a long time ago on the podcast was when I wasn't working out, I noticed that when I would come home, my support around the house helping it keep clean and do things at chores, organize bills, whatever it was, I just, I would be lethargic. I would get home from work and I'd want to plop down on the couch and turn the TV on or lay down for a little bit. I could really see a difference. Then when I would train, I'd be consistent with my lifting, I'd come home and I'd be in this kind of active mood

Starting point is 00:10:09 so I would help around the house, I'd clean up, I'd do dishes, I would do whatever chores that we could train and eat around the house, like the honey do list stuff. Like I didn't feel like it was even that, it was effortless to do those things, whereas if I wasn't training, I like had to muster up the energy or the drive to wanna do those things. Whereas if I wasn't training, I like had to muster up the energy or the drive to

Starting point is 00:10:26 want to do this stuff. It was really interesting to see what a contrast there was there. Then with Max, when Max came around, I noticed that same thing only with my effort to interact and play with him. If I wasn't training, I was falling off on something like that and I come home, you know, from a long day of work, Dad's, you know tired, I just want to lay down. I don't like the effort I would put into the play with him would be different. I come back from a day of working out and training. It's like, I'm throwing him up in the air and we're chasing each other like it was a different level of interaction with him and I could really see the difference in my own behavior. And it wasn't like either one of those things wasn't possible had I not lifted, but I didn't have the same drive and motivation to do it. It was effortless if I was training. If I wasn't, I had to be cautiously thinking about like the focus on it.

Starting point is 00:11:15 Yeah, look, it's a fact. The data is strongly supports how health impacts your mental state, your physical energy and your physical state. Okay, so if you're, the healthy version of you is always gonna be more effective and better at doing almost anything than the unhealthy version of you. It's just a, just the fact. So look, it's like having a horse

Starting point is 00:11:42 that you need to do work for you, but you don't feed it and you don't let it sleep. Nobody would do that. Nobody would have. I feel like it's so obvious. And I don't think there would be anybody who would hear you say that. Like, I never disagreed with that or I used to say it all the time, but I feel like until you like make that personal connection, you're saying like, nobody would argue that. No one would be like, Oh, I disagree. An unhealthy version of you could be a better this. Like, no, everyone would agree with that. But I think that we just don't think about it.

Starting point is 00:12:12 I think when you're off, you're off, and you don't think about how an obvious all the time. Yeah, that's not what I mean by, like it really hit home for me when Katrina and I got together and I noticed it in my relationship partnership, I never really made the connection myself. Like I wasn't, when I was a single bachelor living in my house, I wasn't making that connection when I was off the wagon to it. Did I let my house go more?

Starting point is 00:12:34 Right. It wasn't until I had something like a, almost like a mirror with having a partner and having a child. It really made that connection. I think a part of it is that because the truth is, when you look at people who are when they're under stress versus not under stress, they do engage in more behaviors that are, quote, unquote,

Starting point is 00:12:58 self-care, maybe not the best in self-care. But people are more likely to smoke, they're more likely to drink, they're more likely to watch sitcoms or reality TV, they're more likely to use drugs or alcohol, they're more likely to do all the things that will temporarily alleviate the stress. So people will do things trying to make themselves feel better. The problem is they do the wrong stuff. And then because

Starting point is 00:13:23 exercise and changing your diet's hard, it takes work, right? It takes work to do those things because our impulses are to distract ourselves or reach for the tasty food or the junk food or whatever. Because it's more work than that sneaky voice in our head that we listen to sometimes gives us the perfect excuse, which is, what do you mean workout? You got to go, you got to go do that thing with your kids, or you're

Starting point is 00:13:51 going to take time away from your business, you're going to take time away from your spouse or your responsibilities to go workout. That's so selfish. Why don't you go and become a martyr? And yet, you'll reach for the doughnut, the candy, the cigarette, the alcohol, social media, whatever. So the truth is you are engaging in things to try to make yourself feel better because you're under a lot of stress, but you're not making the choice to choose the thing that really pays you back, that really pays off. That's a tough thing to accept, but it's true. Look at the purchasing habits of people during the pandemic.

Starting point is 00:14:30 I think the average American, I'm much weight-based, but there was a faster gain in weight during the pandemic than we'd seen in previous years. There was a faster, more people smoked, more people drink alcohol. All the things that we do to try to make ourselves feel better, the impulsive stuff, exploded because it was a very stressful time. So, you know, we do those things. We're just not really honest. And again, because it's hard, here's what happens. When something you know you should do, that you know, if you sit down illogically and calmly have a discussion about, or think about, you know, like, I gotta do that.

Starting point is 00:15:05 You don't want to do that because it's hard. It's really easy to let an excuse prevent you. Well, especially when you, oh yeah, that's why. Family or job or it's very easy to justify those things as more important. I mean, that's, I think that's what happens is a, yeah, you default to, well, I mean, it's time with my family or, you know, I need to, well, I mean, it's time with my family, or, you know, I need to work harder, so I just think that that's what I mean by like,

Starting point is 00:15:29 it seems obvious until you're in that scenario and until you really make that connection of like, and have the self-awareness to admit, like, you know, when I think about it, I actually, I'm a better father, I'm around more, I do more with my family when I'm actually doing that workout every day, you know what I'm saying? Like you started.

Starting point is 00:15:47 And the truth is, for vast majority of people, it just requires a little bit of planning, because I'll have these conversations with people too. I'm like, well, what you can do is, what time do you kids go to bed? You can go to bed like shortly after them, and then wake up early, and then do a little bit of exercise three days a week, you know,

Starting point is 00:16:03 before everybody gets up, and then you get the like, I roll it. Oh, but, you know, I like to stay up late. That's when I get to watch my show. You know, well, I just, I guess I remember, too, to your earlier question. It's like, in the middle of the day, I just want to take a nap. I just like, I got, I was so overwhelmed and just like, we just want to sleep.

Starting point is 00:16:18 And it's like, I'm not playing with my kids outside. They're on devices, like the behavior spirals. Like it's all like this domino effect. When I am working out, it's like, I'm already moving, I'm already doing things, the grudges is open, you know, the kids are more likely to be outside than I go hang out with them

Starting point is 00:16:35 and throw the football around, whatever. But it's just like, to me, that was like a glaringly obvious solution. I also think, you know, to your point, Sal about, like, it just takes a little bit of planning, right, for like the super busy. I also think that it's giving yourself permission too that it doesn't have to look like this hour,

Starting point is 00:16:55 bust your ass, sweat like crazy. Like if you're trying to implement this into your life and build some consistency and a routine, this idea that you have to go from, I don't do it to, also, I need to be there three to four times a week for an hour at a time. No. It's just false.

Starting point is 00:17:14 And it's like, almost anybody can find, you know, five to eight minutes to do two or three sets of some squats, or a deadlift pattern, you know, it's something that, and if you can give yourself that permission to say that that's okay to like start there. And then you'll see that it will start to build from that. I think that was a mistake too that I made with like clients was not understanding that that I had had to be this like gym time. They had to go to the gym. They had a car about this hour. It had to be at least three to four times a week and it was like no not really if you if you're not doing anything in that direction

Starting point is 00:17:49 Like hey, maybe just find that one that one day that you try minutes goes a long way Yeah, and and and then build on that and then it also helps because then they make that connection Then then it's easier. It's like wow, you know today was the day I just did those four sets of squats. And I noticed I got this done. I was this, I felt this way. My moves out. It's like, maybe I can do another day like that. Maybe I can have another day where I just squat again.

Starting point is 00:18:12 And it's like, then you start to make those connections to how you are a better version or you're better at everything else that you care about. And then it becomes easier and easier to plan and carve that time out. You know, 100%. It makes a huge difference. Huge, and it doesn't have to be much. It just gotta be a little more than what you're doing now. And then if later on you wanna get more,

Starting point is 00:18:31 cause life, life definitely gets more challenging. Sometimes it's less challenging. You're not always gonna work out the same. And sometimes it's gonna be pure self-care. Other times you'll be able to go and chase a PR or progress or whatever. But the point is the point. The point is, and it's not the perfect health version of you because I think that's what

Starting point is 00:18:52 you're saying, Adam, is it's not, I don't think you'll ever be perfect, it's just the healthier version of you is better than the less healthy version of you. There's small things that you can do and prioritize that will put you in that direction. And yeah, sometimes you are limited, literally like real limited, not just kind of coming up with reasons excuses, but you're really limited, but that there's a lot of things we could do that are small that'll move the needle over and that's all and you want to walk around like do you want to walk around with a good filter for which you see the world receive the

Starting point is 00:19:24 world and respond to the world or do you want to walk around with a good filter for which you see the world, receive the world and respond to the world. Or do you want to walk around with a bad filter and be in a bad mood? I mean, I don't know about you guys, but when I'm in a bad mood and I don't feel good, I am not even close to as good of a dad as I am. I want that auto-tune filter. Yeah. Did you see the clip?

Starting point is 00:19:39 I was interviewed by Stephanie. I can't leave her last name right now. She's in her form. She interviewed me and asked about, she trains a lot of mothers and asked about time. And like, you know, what do you do if you're so busy, this thing kids? And my answer was right in line

Starting point is 00:19:55 with what you're saying right now, which is, you know, we think this like macros and waiting, lifting. Like that's like being healthy. It's like, dude, it's so much broader than that. That, okay, so what? You missed your workout today. Make a better choice than you normally would for dinner, you know?

Starting point is 00:20:15 Or maybe go take a walk, or there's still these, or maybe tonight, you go, man, I didn't get my workout in. I didn't have a great ideal meal planning day. Hey, how would I really hone in on my sleep tonight? I'm gonna make sure I get to bed early. I'm gonna do the, it's like there's an opportunity in every day to move the needle in the right direction towards being a more healthier version of yourself

Starting point is 00:20:40 that it doesn't always have to be this. I won, I hit my macros, I lift away, yeah, that's great. And that's obviously gonna move the needle the most, right? Many times. But it doesn't mean that if life happens and you get busy and shit, it doesn't work out. It's not all right.

Starting point is 00:20:55 Yeah, it's not like you have to go like, oh, fucking right, now I'm also gonna binge TV at night and I'm gonna snack on candy bars later tonight. It's like, okay, well, you miss the meal planning, you miss the workout, you still got an opportunity to make your sleep better. If you need to go, if you need to travel 10 miles, whether you move an inch a day or 10 feet a day

Starting point is 00:21:14 or a centimeter a day, you're getting closer. That's the bottom line. Speaking of sleep, Adam. How has your sleep been since using eight sleep? I am. Yeah, how are you talking to Doug earlier? So I wanted to bring it up on you. So I'm going to sell some of these things I swear to God.

Starting point is 00:21:30 I'm like, I'll hustling on the street with, I think they're selling the transco. So listen, I am okay. So we just, we actually, Katrina and I just got done negotiating their contract for next year, right? They're one of the companies, of course, that will be with us next year too.

Starting point is 00:21:45 And I actually requested, rarely ever does this happen, where I requested from a partner that, I want the guy who's responsible for the AI, because I have a ton of questions on how the fuck this works and how is this possible. So after the first, I don't know, week or two, and I bet there's some sort of time frame

Starting point is 00:22:03 that he can answer this when we get them it It it starts to notice like all the times I manually it. Oh, that's too cold Oh, it's that's not cold enough. Oh, I want this time it to kick on at this time And then this time I want to shut off and like you know but so it measures and it tracks the AI tool is is is tracking all that that. And it's also tracking my heart rate, the time I fell asleep, how deep my sleep is, my score for my sleep afterwards. And it takes all that information

Starting point is 00:22:33 and it now is manually adjusting itself. So I think I told you guys early on, like I was joking about like, oh, it gets so cold sometimes. Oh, it's AI, dude. Yeah, it's literally gonna perfect itself. It no longer gets too cold, it's not too, it gets so cold sometimes. You know, it's AI, dude. Yeah, it's literally gonna perfect itself. It no longer gets too cold, it's not too, it's perfect. Always.

Starting point is 00:22:49 It's fucking wild. It's so weird. How it just kind of over the, and it's been, I don't know, it is, I don't know how long we've been doing it. So, you know, it's weird, it gets better over time. Yes, it just keeps getting, it's just kept getting better and better and better, and now it's like, I haven't had to touch or mess with anything

Starting point is 00:23:05 because it is like the perfect temperature. It's just the right cold to help me fall asleep. Because she comes up and tickles your face a little. Oh, it's fun. I'm so, I'm so impressed and blown away that I want to hear how exactly. That's so crazy. Yeah, I wanna know how exactly this is working

Starting point is 00:23:23 and how it got to this. And it already might like just imagining this. No, no, no, no, no, no, working and how it got this and it or am I like just Imagining this that's what it says on the site. That's what the company does. That's why we yeah, but it's like it almost Seems too good to be true. It's like so good like it did it just hit just perfect for me and I'm lucky I mean how's your experience that I know you're the only other one that's like really consistently using there's right? So when I first put on my bed, I put a topper over it Oh, and so I was manually doing it all the time because it wouldn't get cold enough

Starting point is 00:23:46 because there was a layer. Then I took the topper off and I had it down to like minus 10 and froze me. It froze me. But now it's been probably three or four weeks and it is done exactly what yours has done. It's kind of figured out what I like, and now I sleep like a baby.

Starting point is 00:24:07 Wow, it's crazy. It's really, it's really, really cool technology. I mean, I just, it was funny because when we were, because monitoring all those things, they understand how to piece all that information together. Movement, heart rate, like body temperature. So it's literally calculating all of it. That's, heart rate, body temperature.

Starting point is 00:24:26 So it's literally calculating all of this. That's why I want to ask him. I want to ask him, like, what is so, does it all said, notice that, oh, when Adam gets at two in the morning, when we let it rise up to say 80 degrees in the bed, his heart rate goes up by 10 beats and the rest. You know what's the rest?

Starting point is 00:24:42 Is it getting to that kind of a? Probably, and be good to kill You know, it's really so I observe this in in my little kids because they're you know have a almost your old and almost three Year old right and we have a monitor on them and my three-year-old not so much anymore, but my my year old She'll almost always wake up at particular times and she just kind of wakes up You hear a little bit and then she goes back to sleep, okay? So it's like this pattern. And I think it's because what I've read

Starting point is 00:25:08 is that there's sleep cycles that have to get connected. But anyway, my point is, I'm pretty sure, if you ever talked to adults or clients, I used to, I had a lot of clients who would tell me, so weird, I always wake up at whatever time. Like 3am or 2, there's always a time, right? I wonder if it picks that up and figures out, like, oh, this is when Adam starts to come out

Starting point is 00:25:29 of his sleep cycle. So then we change these things, tweak whatever, and then we prevent it from happening. That's why I requested someone, because there's so many questions I have on, like how they piece us together. It's gotta be a cool story on how this technology was built. Because I mean, I, you know, into the point of the kid, like, I think I'm going to buy

Starting point is 00:25:48 one for Max's bed. Max runs really, really hot and he gets up in the middle of the night. So I'm kind of curious of like, will it like figure out like for him to optimize his sleep? Because I mean, as a parent, not having your kid coming in the middle of the night almost every night would be a really cool turnabout. Yeah, that's definitely something I've been considering. I haven't done it yet, so that was like one on the list. It would be great because it's like clockwork, like he said, like you know, it's like 12 clock, you know, it used to be like two, 12, it's like, average up and you know, it's

Starting point is 00:26:22 the same old thing. Almost every night, like around one at a time. He even, he's like, see I think they're connecting you know, it's the same old thing. Almost every night, like around one of the store. He even, he's like, see, I think they're connecting sleep cycles. That's what I've read. Yeah, well, because I had people DM me like crazy about all these options and things for like if your cake keeps getting up and has tears

Starting point is 00:26:35 and all these things. And there was one was like an airway that had some kind of a device that helps kind of open the airway a bit, like in terms of like breathing patterns and things that they've noticed that helps. But again, there's just so many, and some people are like, oh, we just have them read until they fall asleep and then have like extend it for a while or wake them up like 90 minutes before, they would normally have their time where they get up. And so I mean, I just got like an onslaught of options here

Starting point is 00:27:09 I'm gonna go through all these things, but we got the eight sleeps So I think that's next on the list. Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna try it. I think it's gonna be a worthwhile investment for him Just because I noticed how he he runs so hot he runs hotter than me. I can't believe like he'll come over on my side. I never sweats a puddle of kick the sheets off. Yeah, damn. Yeah. Yeah. It was like such a big fight for Katrina and I see because she wants to believe he's more like her and I want to believe he's more like me. You know what I'm saying? And so she was always like putting them in long sleeve, long pants and everything like that. And like, but I mean, I'm like, I'm pretty sure that he runs hot. Like he's sweaty. Like, let him sleep naked.

Starting point is 00:27:47 She's like, oh my God, no, he'll get too cold. It'll be too cold. And I'm like, I think my three-year-olds like that. He sleeps with just his underwear. Yeah. It doesn't matter what the temperature is. Yeah. He does not like, he doesn't like a sheet on him.

Starting point is 00:27:58 Nothing. Just cold. That's facts. In fact, I told him, he's like, man, you're like a polar bear. And now I think it identifies with it. He wants cold showers, cold bath, literally, cold bath. Really?

Starting point is 00:28:09 And he doesn't get in, like, he like gets in like, yay, and he starts playing with it. Interesting. Like, what is going on here? Oh, that's kind of crazy. Oh, that's fun. But now at this point though, because he keeps saying, I'm a polar bear.

Starting point is 00:28:19 I'm like, is he identifying the, with the students becoming a thing? Yeah. Dude. Speaking of sleep and a lot of stuff. So I gotta tell you guys what a shit show this morning was. So we just, we obviously moved to a new place organizing things. We organized a garage.

Starting point is 00:28:34 I now have a place where the garage is far, it's not underneath any of the kids' rooms so we could start working out in the morning at home again, which I still love doing. And I'm, you know, Jessica, I'm like, honey, let's start, you know, let's work out again. She's like, all right, let's do this. So we're gonna start working out together again. So the plan was we got to wake up early because I have to drop my daughter's school.

Starting point is 00:28:54 So I was gonna wake up at 5 a.m. And the night before she's like, oh yeah, you know, I'll have coffee so that, you know, while you use the bathroom, I can kind of wake up and then we're ready to work out or whatever. Anyway, so I get up 5 a.m. She's not used to working up at 5 a.m.

Starting point is 00:29:08 She normally wakes up a little later. So I get up and she's like, you're gonna bring me coffee and I'm like, I thought you're coming downstairs. I, for whatever reason, I'm like, you're gonna get it downstairs, not up here. Well, anyway, that made her pissed off. And she wakes up, she is, she has to wake up slow, okay?

Starting point is 00:29:25 Some people like this. I can relate. Okay. I can relate to this. I can relate to this. I can relate to this. If she doesn't wake up slow, then another version of her comes out. Okay. Like, literally, I don't know what's happening. The grimlet, that's me. Like, if there's too much light in her eye, if I, if I, you know, sometimes you wake someone

Starting point is 00:29:41 up and like, hey, wake up, like you shake them. That would, I would be at a fight. You know that, that would be a physical fight. You interrupt your story right now, but what you just said right now, do you know that was like, I'll never forget that when I asked Katrina, like we were one night having one of those talks,

Starting point is 00:29:54 we were asking questions and inquiring like favorite traits. She lists like the top three trait of me is how I wake her up. She's all because she goes, it's a huge pepip to get like shaken away like that and you're so gentle. And I am that way because that's how I, I get hell a pissed if someone, yeah, probably wakes me up like that. Oh, I know. I learned that from you guys that time that we, that one of the first time we all slept in the same house that I played, uh, that's the middle of the morning. So wake you guys up and you guys

Starting point is 00:30:19 were, you guys were mad at me. She's fine. If I'm up, you know, but I remember you guys were, that's how much I don't like you that my days. I thought I was gonna laugh. Ha ha great prank. No, you guys were mad at me all day. I was like, oh, never have to go over. Well, I mean, because I mean, I, I mean, I, I mean, that's a genuinely pissed them off. I don't want to do that.

Starting point is 00:30:36 So anyway, I, so she comes down to all I'm had, you know, and I'm like, you know, she's getting her coffee or whatever. And she's on the couch pissed off or whatever, because I just woke her up and so now I'm trying to get everything ready and see her on the couch and she's so upset. It's just like, just I'm so mad. So I go over to her, I'm like, you know, I'm trying to rub her shoulders.

Starting point is 00:30:54 Like, don't touch me. It's like, there's nothing you can do at that point. Like she's super mad. So I'm like, it's gonna be a great workout. See me also. So I go, so then I go to the bathroom and I, you know, I have my pre workout, you know, caffeine or whatever. And we're ready to go.

Starting point is 00:31:08 Then we go into the garage and, you know, she's watching the monitor with the kids. So we have to make sure the noise, well, and then the little one wakes up. So now he's waking up. What's waking him up? I gotta make sure this anyway. So this is the workout.

Starting point is 00:31:20 This is what the workouts look like, right? Meanwhile, my teenage daughter is having a, just, you know, she just goes through moods. She's just one of those moods. She was like that last night before, so she wakes up and there's one of those, again, this morning, so I'm dealing with that. So it was just fucking shit. Yeah. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:31:38 All morning, dude. We're going like, this is why I fucking workout to do you in the morning. Oh. Dude. It's so crazy. So inside, we're trying to organize it, right? We're going like, this is why I fucking work out to do you and the morning break. Oh. Dude, I had so crazy. So inside, so I plan, we're trying to organize it, right? Because I want, I love work, my work out's very important for my mental health.

Starting point is 00:31:53 You guys know that. I need to do it, do my thing. I feel good, I come to work. But I also want, I would love to be, because Jessica and I used to do this together where we work out and spend a little bit of time together eating breakfast. It's a great way to start the day. So I'm like trying to schedule it and plan it.

Starting point is 00:32:08 But I'm like throwing a little, like teasing her about it, you know. So I'm like, yeah, she's like, oh, this after I left, she's like, oh, that was so great working out together. I'm like, yeah, it's all uphill from here. I said, all down now, I'm saying, you said the bar real low. She's like, yeah, because you were an asshole. I'm like, It's almost at the bar real low. She's like, yeah, because you were an asshole. I'm like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like,

Starting point is 00:32:29 he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like,

Starting point is 00:32:37 he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, it's hard for me to be super aware of what the other person needs, you know, what I'm generally, in the morning too.

Starting point is 00:32:47 The way I work up wake up in the morning, you literally could come in and play the trumpet and I would get up and be like, all right, stand to wake up. Whereas that would probably cause a heart attack in most people. So that would piss me off. I would get really scared.

Starting point is 00:32:59 Yeah, dude. Yeah, no, I just like, I'm worried. I, that's one of the things I love. It could fit in really like, that she's always been a champ like that because she knows how I am with sleep that she she's like, you know what like Yeah, I'd like him to get up right now and help me or do this But I also know that if I ask him to do it he'll do it But then he's gonna be a fucking bear all day

Starting point is 00:33:17 He's like I'd rather deal with the 30 minutes. I got to get up right now and deal with the kid or do whatever I got to do and let him have his seat. He stacks all the items later on in the afternoon. I'm gonna do it all. I wonder if it's so, okay, so obviously I'm the weird one. So this must be like a switching of CNS that if it's disrupted, it must cause in most normal people a stress response, like that gets kicked off, right?

Starting point is 00:33:46 That's hard to slow down. I mean, there's people that have theories around like, when you were born, if you were born at like the night, you tend to be like more of a night key. If you were born in the morning, I don't know how much truth there is to that. But I don't know if there's any genetic component to it. You know, my mom's the same way.

Starting point is 00:34:02 Like she's like, my dad's always like dancing around like, oh, your mom's still asleep. You know, he's literally be crazy. And she really will. And like, I like that. So I don't know if I got that from her or what. There has to be like a genetic component too. I do think it's the switch, right? Cause you're going from parasympathetic to sympathetic.

Starting point is 00:34:21 And I think the abrupt shift for some people might make the sympathetic become like a crazy... Well, I may need abrupt shift for some people might make the sympathetic become like a maybe just some people transition that's it genetically they transition very quickly other people to slow process right as I'm fine after about my half-hour drive and one caffeine drink and like then I'm a drink and I'm okay wow so but this morning was hilarious. Oh fuck. You're out of morning. Well, personally either not really. Yeah, you're a night guy. I'm kind of in between though.

Starting point is 00:34:49 Yeah. So for example, if my phone goes off and it's time to get up, I just pop out of bed. Yeah. So I don't have to necessarily, you know, just ramp my self up to getting out of bed in the morning. However, if you are to play a trumpet or shake me, you're going to see my worst

Starting point is 00:35:05 side. In the military, I saw it. I pop right up to, but I don't want to be talked to. I don't want to have the lights on. I'll get right up. But somewhere to go, I'm going. Yeah, yeah. Just don't wake me up before I'm supposed to get up. Yeah, that's what I don't like. Yeah. No, no, for Jessica, not even light, like don't, like, don't light on too fast, like we gotta, we gotta like slowly, he's into the world. Yeah, so bring her a coffee and bet now. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:35:34 Just a little blast of citrus. Just a little bit, just a little bit, just a little bit, just a little bit, just a little bit, just a little bit, just a little bit, just a little bit, just a little bit, just a little bit, just a little bit, just a little bit, just a little bit, just a little bit,

Starting point is 00:35:43 just a little bit, just a little bit, just a little bit, just a little bit, just a little bit, just a little bit, just a little bit, just a little bit, just a little bit, just a little bit, just a little bit, just a little bit, just a little bit, just a little bit, just a little bit, just a little bit, just a little this, like, you know, I have to hand her like this. You know, like, please don't. It's a little sunrise. I'm looking, I'm really looking forward to it because what'll happen now is we'll be able to work out, we'll be able to make breakfast, sit with each other in the nice outside in the dark, eat a little bit, hang out, and then the little ones will wake up and I'll go to work. It'll be a nice way to start the day. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:36:04 You know, I told you guys I was going to implement this. I just, we did our first one. I was really actually excited and I'm glad I did it. And I think you mentioned that you might do the same thing too. I can't stress. Do it now. Start now. I know I wish I would have even started even earlier

Starting point is 00:36:19 because how well it was received and how well it's going to work. The whole books for toys or things. So like Max asked for like, he's all into Legos right now, right? So he wanted another Mario Lego thing. And you know, in the past, we would, okay, you know, we'd order it and he'd get it or whatever like that. And so it was like, now we need to read,

Starting point is 00:36:37 we had to read 10 books if we want to get Lego. And he was like, okay, you know, he was cute though, because Raptor, I said that. He like ran upstairs and brought 10 books down. He was like, let's read him down. Yeah, let's do it. I was like, okay, well, when it comes, right? Well, wait till it comes and then when it gets here,

Starting point is 00:36:52 because I still want him to connect that, you know, you get a weight. Yeah, and I want him to see that have to sit up there and wait until we get through the book. That's smart. Pro, and he was like so good about it. Like, came in, came in the mail, he was so excited. And I said, okay, don't open it till we get her books.

Starting point is 00:37:07 We went back upstairs, went, went and got the books, sat down right next to me. And it was cute too, about the fifth book in, because it's like sitting out so you can see it. You know, he got up from me reading and he went over and he was looking at it and talking all about it. And then he came back and he's like, you read. And then he wanted me to read while he goes,

Starting point is 00:37:26 oh, I was like, I don't know how I say it together. Together we have to, okay, but he was really good about it. Sat through all 10 books that I read to him and then when he was all done, he did that. And he's asked now again, I said, oh, that'll be seven books for us to do that. So starting to make that connection now.

Starting point is 00:37:42 And- Because later he'll do it himself. Right. And I, and I, and the fact that he's already, uh, receptive to it already before he can actually read himself. That's the, I feel like it's going to be a really easy transition for when he actually can start reading. I go, Hey, yeah, mom and dad will get that, but you're going to have to knock out X amount

Starting point is 00:38:00 of books or whatever to get it. I think it's going to be a really, I hope will be a really smooth transition because if he's already Receiving that now and we're teaching him now that together we do that when he can on his own only 16 how many books for that card that? 2000 degree I gotta tell you guys I Got a new peptide in the mail. So I laugh because all the peptides I try. So I try these different peptides,

Starting point is 00:38:31 I wanna see what the effects are so we can talk about them. And the one that I have yet to try, that people talk about all the time, it's known as TB500 or thymacin beta four. That like a fat loss one? No. That's not like the TB 500. What was that popular supplement?

Starting point is 00:38:50 The T500 or wouldn't that, it, the thermogenic for fat loss? Oh, no, nothing like that. No, no, no. You don't remember that one? Oh my God, I sell you a core had it too. I cannot think of the name of it right now. It was like T5, I thought it was exactly what it was.

Starting point is 00:39:04 No, no, no, no, this is a peptide. So it's not a fat loss one. So it's thymus and beta four, I believe is the actual name of it. And so check this out, right? So BPC 157, which I've been using, which I love, by the way, my favorite peptide across the board is BPC now. Yeah. I would agree with that.

Starting point is 00:39:25 That's pretty good. I feel just good on it, period. Now, it's for recovery. It speeds up healing of the soft tissues, like, intending and ligaments, T500, wow, like that. Thank you, Doug. For not making me look like an idiot. I was just saying, he looks at me all like I was stupid.

Starting point is 00:39:41 Excel format. What a weird brand. Where'd you come up with that? I mean, that's that brand, but I've seen that T500 was a popular. Definitely not that. Yeah, okay. So, and now the other effects I've gotten from BPC

Starting point is 00:39:53 as I just feel clear, I feel sharp, I feel, so that, so, because it helps with systemic inflammation, my gut is ridiculously good in comparison to how it normally is, and it's gotta be that, right? Now, the TB 500 or Thymus and Beta 4 works differently, but it's also for recovery and for healing. So the difference, so so far from what I've learned, is BPC helps with the soft tissue stuff.

Starting point is 00:40:21 Tendons, ligaments, joints, TB 500 or thymus and beta works on actin, which is muscle. So it speeds up the healing of actin and the healing process in general. Combining the two is supposed to be like, this is what they call the Wolverine stack. Combine the two and you heal. Oh really?

Starting point is 00:40:42 Yes. So I've been reading online people's reviews and stuff and they're talking about how well it works. And one guy was like, I was supposed to not be able to do activity for six weeks, two weeks later. I feel like I'm back to normal. I just started using it. I'll let you guys know what the deal is.

Starting point is 00:41:00 They also sent me Thymus and Alpha, which is a different peptide. Thymus and alpha, which is a different peptide. Thymus and alpha, you only use once or twice a week. That is for immune system, and that's the one that they tried to ban during the pandemic. Now the conspiracy theory is there were studies that showed that thymus and alpha was an effective treatment for viruses, respiratory viruses.

Starting point is 00:41:25 And so then they said, we're gonna ban this and so they said, oh, is that why you're gonna ban this? It works, yes, give me a minute. I know, type of deal. But the TB 500, pretty crazy. So for people watching, listening, I'm not an expert on the peptides. I'm just learning from them,

Starting point is 00:41:37 from the experts that we work with at MP hormones and trying them out a little bit. This one's gonna be really interesting. I'll let you know. But from what I've read, people are like, I recover faster. Yeah. My people are saying like intense workouts in general,

Starting point is 00:41:49 like you would feel the effects of recovery there. Oh, I'll tell you it. So Jessica, I don't know if I'm supposed to say this, whatever. Jessica. You already in trouble for this episode, anyway, so fucking good. Go on, bro.

Starting point is 00:42:00 She tweaked her back. So you ever get a spasm in your low back area? It's probably so as we're like, it's even hard to stand up and walk. You ever do that? Yeah. Okay, this happened the other day, because we've been moving so much.

Starting point is 00:42:14 And she was aft, like she couldn't get up, she couldn't sit down, I'm like, all this sucks, she couldn't pick up the baby. So Sidhoney, do you mind, you wanna try these, you know, peptides that BPC and the TV? And she said, all right, I'll try it. So I gave it to her two days gone, gone. Walk up.

Starting point is 00:42:31 She's like, this is weird. I don't feel it at all. So I'm like, well, still treat it like you're injured because I don't want to hurt yourself again. Well, I remember I told you that was the, when I first, because I think I took it first out of all of us way back when I got it for your killings. Yeah. And it was like scary, how fast it felt. Because all of us, way back when when I got it. For your killings. Yeah. And it was like scary how fast it felt,

Starting point is 00:42:47 because it was like, I know in my head. You had question. Yeah. Like I was still too timid to like really push it, because like this feels too good to be already that recovered from what I just felt, just say a few weeks before that. So, no, it's, I would say it's my,

Starting point is 00:43:00 as far as pep times that I've tried, that like I feel a difference difference that I would 100%, which is what I think would all the research has said too, as far as the most effective out of all the peptides. Oh, here's what I was gonna tell you guys. This is something just taking a left here. We're about to, we potentially may see one of the greatest battles in history, okay.

Starting point is 00:43:24 You got big pharma and you got big food, both not the best reputation, right? Both kind of like battling each other. Yeah, over what? Yeah. Okay, since we're talking about peptides, so the GLP1 agonists, like some agglutides. Oh, I saw this, but it was epic.

Starting point is 00:43:39 And then, yes, I did see. Oh, because it's affecting their snacks, like consumption. People are consuming their less. So here's what seems to be happening, and I say seems to be crazy enough Oreos. We know what the data says on some agglutide and GLP1 agonist.

Starting point is 00:43:57 These are all peptides, okay? The data shows that people will lose about 15% to 20% of their body weight consistently. Now, if you don't lift weights and you don't try to eat high protein diet, you're gonna lose muscle as well as body fat. Basically, all sets happening, if you just take it

Starting point is 00:44:10 and you don't watch other things, is you eat less, that's it. But you may, if you don't eat more protein, lift weights, your body will try to adapt by pairing muscle down. We know this, we've talked about this. But if you combine with high protein, lift weights, it could be, especially if this is a challenge for you to do.

Starting point is 00:44:24 Which by the way, this is right in line in the same exact, the physiological things that's going on when people do lots of cardio, cut their calories super high or super low. And why we tell them that's such a bad strategy. Your body just adapts to it. Try it through by slowing it down. So, so the big snack food companies are meeting, trying to figure out what they're going to do about this.

Starting point is 00:44:44 They actually, do you think they have anything to do with what's're gonna do about this. They actually... Do you think they have anything to do with what's going on then, right? With the whole... Just gonna say, you are talking about two of the most powerful, big, far more powerful, but big food is very powerful, has their hands in the government, and has had their hands in the government for a long time. Same thing with pharma. And so the propaganda war is about to begin.

Starting point is 00:45:08 That's what we're gonna see. I mean, we already see it right now. That's what you stomach paralysis stuff they're putting out there. It's like, what was it? One percent? Less than one percent. Less than one percent.

Starting point is 00:45:17 And then, so what else has been taken off the shelves for way more than that? Oh, oh, nothing. There's been things that are way worse that are still going on. Yeah, there's still on the show. It's anyways. Yeah, I look at that right away.

Starting point is 00:45:28 And I'm like, interesting that, yeah, they also have an incentive because of consumption. Yeah, and so, so they're, yeah, so that's the propaganda machine, right? Like, who knows? Because now you have these snack companies that for the first time ever, they've never felt threatened by any pharmaceutical

Starting point is 00:45:47 in terms of weight loss or fat loss. Never, they've never come out and actually had a meeting. So I read this article, I'll bring it up, where they're literally like, we need to figure this out. Snack food investors are concerned about the rise of semi-glutide. That's the so Wall Street Journal report this right. Listen, so Wall Street Journal reports investors behind companies, including Campbell Supes,

Starting point is 00:46:13 Connogra brands, they make Slim Jim, you know, Orville Redembocker. They're asking tough questions of executives amid the rise of semi-glutide. So they're literally like, hey, what do we do? Like, what are we going to do about this? Because people are eating less. And because they're less impulsive, the foods that are going to get hurt the most are these impulsive foods that we reach for, like snack foods. That's what they, that's what they feel at least, right? It's interesting. So it's going to be interesting to see the articles that are going to come out to try to like battle each other because you're talking about two very ingrained behemoths, you know, when calories, just the calorie.

Starting point is 00:46:52 Yeah, right. Why are we worried about this? I don't know. What are they going to do? I don't know. They're going to sneak like hunger-packed items and snacks. Hey, speaking of what are they going to do? So I saw this.

Starting point is 00:47:03 Could have gone the next Titanic. Can you know that in California, the like, squatter laws and stuff are so fucking crazy. I think everybody in here has had like a family or a friend or somebody that's screwed by some of the stuff. I was reading this article yesterday about the Brentwood. Did you see this? This person, K, Brentwood is an expensive area down in LA. This person's been in the short term rental for 500 days, not paying.

Starting point is 00:47:29 And they're depicting from the owner $100,000 for them to leave. They've already been staying there for 500 days. It's a whole new hostage. Yes. And they're and because of the way the laws are structured in California, they can't go what the fuck? I know. Can you believe that?

Starting point is 00:47:47 Yeah. Like how ridiculous. You know what I would do. What would you actually ask you guys if you had a property? I don't even want to say what I would. Well hold on. Tell me what you can say, right? If somebody moved in your place. I would get them out.

Starting point is 00:47:58 Let me tell you. I would fuck you. So I already know, I tell you, I have a strategy. I'm gonna leave at some point, you know You know and lock it up this happened to my uncle He had a place and the people refused to leave and he's like and we all told him move in Go move in with them and make it Unbearable and he was gonna do that and they finally left But that's what I would do. I'd be like hey honey. I'm gonna go live with those

Starting point is 00:48:18 Assholes and it's gonna be loud music and I'm gonna fart everywhere and I'm gonna make them just I mean the amount of money This person has already lost on 500 days in short term rental long before 500 days. I would have seen the writing on the wall. 30 days. And I would have been like, okay, the amount of money I could lose is worth this much to pay somebody. Like I would pay someone full time to harass that.

Starting point is 00:48:37 That's right. Yes, full time. Like what do you make this year? Air horn. I'm gonna like cover all night long. Yes, I'm gonna cover your pay your job and your job starts at like 10 p.m. at night. Put the water off. Yeah, I got open window bees every on just every on slot of everything. I would literally pay somebody to just terrorize that person's

Starting point is 00:49:00 got a leave to go to the grocery store. They leave to probably go do shit. Like they would be terrorized until they leave that. That's so sick. If you're gonna get gangster on me, I'm gonna get gangster right there. That's so crazy. I'm gonna get gangster on you, hot. It's crazy.

Starting point is 00:49:11 You can't kick someone out of your home. I mean, I get, I know why the laws exist. I make it, it's spain to me. Why, I don't understand why. Because they make the case that, oh, you can't kick out a family. They're hard on the luck. Where they can do live on the street.

Starting point is 00:49:23 That's 500 days. That's, it's over a year, you know? So you know the laws, where they can do live on the street. That's 500 days. That's over a year. So you know the laws went to the top. The laws were ran ahead. That's kind of like the world works. Like I get if they're like 30 days or something like that. Yeah, but I mean the thing with the same thing, it's so funny because it's like you're thinking

Starting point is 00:49:39 about that person and that family. There's a lot of families where there's people that they're living is off of rental incomes. They've been smart, conservative with their money, invested in houses. And so, I mean, imagine if all of our tenants at one time decide they were gonna do that to us, like that would hurt.

Starting point is 00:49:53 It would even hurt us. It's not just that. That would hurt financially to get hit without all of it. First, obviously it's the right thing to do, right? But I think it's not just that. What happens with laws like this, is it actually hurts the disenfranchised in ways that people don't realize.

Starting point is 00:50:07 I'll give you an example. Rent control laws, right? They're designed, people can't afford the rising cost of living, so we have to limit what you can charge and rent. And what that does is it prevents any reinvestment into those areas to build more properties, or to clean up their properties,

Starting point is 00:50:24 make them livable and good and whatever. So you actually restrict what's available thus making it harder. So you go to certain cities and areas with price controls. Now a new family needs wants to move in, nothing's available. There's nothing available, sorry, we don't have anything. The market is artificially restricted and nobody wants to build. Because if you build, you can't cover the cost. So what ends up happening is you restrict supply rather than encouraging supply. So it would be like this. Here's the example. It would be like

Starting point is 00:50:55 the government saying eggs, eggs are a staple food. Everybody should have eggs. So we're going to make a law that says you cannot sell a dozen eggs for anything more than 50 cents That's it. That's the law 50 cents and then people who don't understand economics will be like that's a good thing We'll make eggs sheep. No, no, no, what'll happen is people will stop selling eggs Yeah, because farmers aren't gonna sell eggs because they can't make money Something it doesn't for 50 cents. So now you stupid law means nobody gets it right right or somebody else who has the means buys up all the eggs and then the other people get Anyway, so well that but you know the answer that would be we'll just make more laws

Starting point is 00:51:32 Speaking of laws and rules. I just learned this this fact you guys you guys left football so I'll bring it up Oh, I didn't know this was a thing in football. Hey, how about the Niners Football football American footballer soccer the American football. Oh, we'll talk about the Beckon. I watched it. Oh, good. Huh. Really good. Really good. So, no, we can't talk about that. I didn't know this. Did you guys know and up until 1980 that football players were allowed to put stick them all over their hands and arms? Do you know what that is? Oh, you mean if they're... Yeah, you had to catch the glove. Yeah, dude. Yeah. They had to ban it because I'm looking at a picture of it. What is that stuff?

Starting point is 00:52:09 Well, you see, I mean, what they do allow them to get away with are those... Wow. ...wha receiver gloves. And if you ever felt those things, they're like crazy, almost like stick. You're casually doing your fingertips. Yeah, that's why, I mean, you see,

Starting point is 00:52:22 not to end by the way, not taking anything away from these catches, but it's like, there is a big difference between bare-handed catching that and catching out of those gloves those gloves are crazy But stick on my saw a picture. It's this it's like green goo although they were playing like that. It's crazy I mean one of these like sports like that's half of the game is like where figuring out Yeah, we're still having to regulate later That's right. What, where's the... I mean, you know, like in baseball, you used to do that. To be the Vaseline and the high dead in all these weird places.

Starting point is 00:52:51 Yeah, there it is. The tar. The tar, they call it the Lester Hayes Roll because he would cover his hands. Go to the go up, Doug, because it talks about what this stuff is. Dude, I was playing rugby. It was so annoying because guys would like grease up their legs. And so you're supposed to like tackle a specific way that was different than football.

Starting point is 00:53:07 So you'd like kind of let them run into you and then you'd have to kind of turn. I mean, when you do slip right out of your arms and you have like $1,000,000 for this, or on the table. Of course. Like, you know, innovation, creativity, loopholes, like, that's like everything.

Starting point is 00:53:23 Of course. You're looking for every competitive edge that you can. So speaking of football, yeah, you're a piece of, I'm watching the Beckham series on Netflix. Have you finished? Yeah, you're watching. We're on this.

Starting point is 00:53:33 And you haven't haven't watched it? No, okay, bro, you're watching. It's really good. No, no, listen, I actually wish I was like hardcore in a soccer and would have watched that. First of all, I would have been really fun watching that, I'm gonna say this. I was never fans of the Beckham's right.

Starting point is 00:53:48 Got a lot of them now, right? Because you know why? Because they were the celebrities. They were like the Kardashians in the tabloids all the time. Tabloids. I'm like, who cares? I don't care. Whatever. Well, the here's why I like them so much. I don't care so much that he's an awesome soccer player that she was a spice girl. I don't give a shit about that. But the odds that celebrity couples stay together as long as they have or low anyway. When you hear about how they love each other, that's real. It's really cool. I think I said this on earlier show. He used to drive for four hours to see her for 12 minutes. And then go back and they went through, I don't know how far you would

Starting point is 00:54:20 think they go. Yeah, where he was hated by the country. Yeah, yeah. And then also what I mean, obviously there was inf by the country. Yeah, yeah. That and then also what, I mean, obviously there was infidelity and stuff like that for them to have made it through. I think it's that part. Oh yeah, so to make it through all the things that they went through and still stay together as a family, like that's really cool.

Starting point is 00:54:35 Very inspiring. Yeah, I likeable on it. Very, very, likeable. Tease each other and stuff. Very, very likable. The part where she said she was like from a working class. Yeah, and he's like calling us around the door. I mean, what did you drive? What

Starting point is 00:54:46 did your dad drive? She kept trying to dance around it. She's a Rolls Royce. Yeah. All right. We walked out. Normal. Yeah. His parents. I love his parents. Yeah. They are so supportive and hardcore. I mean, he's just so he's a year. I was the same way. I don't I'm not I don't follow soccer as, as much as a lot of other sports at all. So I'm like, I have a little bit of understanding of who, who and some of that, of course, I know who David Beckham is. And so, but most of that is through news. I'm tabloid. Yeah, tabloid stuff, not because I really follow the sport. And so I had kind

Starting point is 00:55:22 of a similar type of, whatever, you know, it's just some pretty, pretty soccer player that married a fucking famous singer. Very Kardashian line. It's actually, it's I actually almost like feel sorry for him because of that because he was such a pretty guy, he marries the rock star super, super girl that they got so much negative publicity when he's probably a really fucking cool guy. And it's a, and then the part with their kid, dude, that like just tore my, like, I can't imagine,

Starting point is 00:55:51 I mean, especially you, like, you know how freaking paranoid you are by everything? Could you imagine the day you're, from the day your kid was born to getting death threats about your child. And then you gotta go perform on a soccer field in another city or a state, or sometimes in another country.

Starting point is 00:56:05 And your wife is, oh, just got a letter that day, like someone's trying to kill our son. Huh. And you gotta go perform into your job. Good luck. Oh wow. Yeah, dude, that's crazy. And now you can tell that his,

Starting point is 00:56:16 he's so respected by his teammates, the way that they all talk about him. Like he's, they like him. Like genuinely, like admiring. That, so there's a part, that's a rumor, I'm really, really, this is why I wanted to, like, like, admiring like that. So there's a part that's a room. I'm really room this. That's why I wanted to wait till all of us to talk about it. But there's a part where he comes to play for Madrid.

Starting point is 00:56:34 Did you get there? No. Oh, you didn't? No. Oh, fuck. Well, I was like, I just could treat it. I both were like, wow. The, the fact that these a super team like Madrid takes on David Beckham, who's

Starting point is 00:56:47 this young like the tabloid to you, Manchester you guy, right? And yes, and the guys at Madrid that are already superstars, the way they embraced him, like it actually made me really respect soccer on another level because I don't know another professional sport where you got that many superstars. The new kid comes in like that and for them to embrace him the way they did and trying to lift him up when there was like yeah it's you'll get to it and you'll be I just I can't name another team that I've seen an example like that to that level. Of course, there's somewhat examples of that with some other sports, but not like that. I thought that was really, really, really impressive.

Starting point is 00:57:34 And you could tell why that Madrid was such a dominant team for so many years because of their, they knew that even with all these superstars that we only win, we only go forward as a unit. And that was the foundation of like, we need to all go to dinners together, we need to do the, like we have to bring our families, we have to do all stuff like that for the greater of the team. And you just, in professional sports, people are making millions of dollars, you just don't. Yeah, everybody separate. Yeah, and then to do that to the young guy, right? Who's already got all the celebrity attention

Starting point is 00:58:07 and then he comes into your circle. Interesting. And you're already a badass and then, and he's coming in to potentially take another guy's position. It's like, oh, cool. I'm getting a little bit serious. Yeah, it's a really interesting dynamic that happened. No, no, no, no.

Starting point is 00:58:20 We're enjoying watching it because Jessica, her mom's English and she lived in England when it was all popular or whatever. So not Beckham, although she knew who he was or whatever, but she thought she was a Spice Girl at Little Ray. So she's all into Victoria Beckham. She was a huge Spice Girl fan. Because she was a teenager right around that time. Yeah, so I thought that.

Starting point is 00:58:41 Hey, speaking of huge fans, it seems like our strawberry walnut coconut cream is like the hit. No, it's definitely my favorite one. The creatures that have it. Yes, you're it's it's it's the one of their best sellers. I don't know if it's a best seller yet. It's too early. I don't think it can hit. I don't think it's possible because it hasn't been out long enough to consider it a best seller. It's probably obviously a best seller this month for sure. Like but what I'm seeing on the forum and the DMs that I'm getting is people saying it's their favorite flavor they've had. Awesome.

Starting point is 00:59:11 It's so cool, because that makes me happy that we made that, we collaborated on that, and I thought was like, I'm gonna let you play. I took a few with me to Vegas, and I got to take one of the strawberry ones, had my kids try. They definitely preferred that one over the other flavors as well, the maple and all that. Well, I told you guys, I shot down my review only flavor.

Starting point is 00:59:29 Is he producing? Yeah, we're gonna go with Adam's strawberry. I'm glad they kind of bypassed that completely. How bad, no. Yeah. I'm not a flavor guy anywhere. I'm like, can we put more weird stuff in it? Yeah.

Starting point is 00:59:43 You put some peptides in it? It's actually weird to me that the handful of people I've met that actually don't like it. I'm like, how could you not like that oatmeal? You must not like oatmeal, period. Or you're like, you know, I've ever met some of you, and my best friends like this, that are weird about textures.

Starting point is 00:59:58 Certain textures of food, like a soft with a heart, like nobody can't do that. You can't have a soft texture with a hard texture. I know. And so if you- I'm only like that with stuff that like feels like't do that. He can't have a soft texture with a hard texture. And so if you only like that with stuff that like feels like snot, you know, like, like what? Tapioca.

Starting point is 01:00:10 Yes, or a boboister or yeah. Wait, hold on, you like tapioca? No. Tapioca is either a yes or no. I love tapioca. I love tapioca. Yeah, I love the little whatever those balls are in there. What is it?

Starting point is 01:00:22 Tapioca. That's tapioca. That's the actual tapioca. Yeah. It's a root, I believe. Really? It's a starch. Yeah. And it's a powder.

Starting point is 01:00:31 You can actually make your own little tapioca balls. So what's the macro profile? Is it? I mean, it's probably as if it's hungry for you. I know. It tastes too good to be. A drink with a straw. That's what they make boba out of.

Starting point is 01:00:41 But is it, oh, boba is made from it. So those are some balls. So that those, uh, no, those bo balls. So that's actually tapioca balls. Yes. Oh, interesting. And those ones are black and tapioca is typically white. I think they do something to make it dark. I'm not sure exactly what they add.

Starting point is 01:00:59 Some of them have brown sugar included. I mean, I'm kind of an expert on boba because my daughter, Bri, she loves it. You know, that one grew on me, right? The first time I had it, I was like in my early 20s, one of my clients brought to me, a Vietnamese lady, and I was like, this is weird. But after having it cold times, I actually started to really like it.

Starting point is 01:01:19 So that's like one of those acquired. I love Bobo. Do you, did you like it around the gates? Yeah, I liked it. I like chewing on it. I mean, you won't like it if you had it. Dude, did you like it round the gates? Yeah, I liked chewing on Boba. I mean, you won't like it. If you had it, it's really slimy. Like the, you suck.

Starting point is 01:01:30 You're slimy and chewy. You know, is it like kombucha had that like slimy film over the top? That's just different. Yeah, that's different. Yeah, that's kind of interesting. Justin won't eat slimy or anything that's phallic shake. Remember when he tried to get me to pop it?

Starting point is 01:01:41 But I feel like those are the people that don't like the, if you don't like creatures of habit, it's like that. You have like a texture thing because the oatmeal has that, which I love the seeds and the things in there. So do I. Because it gives it texture. And besides just slopping down a oatmeal, I think it gives it a different,

Starting point is 01:01:56 I thought he crushed it with that idea, which I didn't do that. I didn't put the seeds in there like that. I always was just like the walnuts and a like fruit or something like that. But yeah, some people don't like that. Who's our shout out today, by the way? It's David Meltzer, I think I'm gonna say it right. I've been following him for a while,

Starting point is 01:02:15 and I don't know how I came across this stuff. I like a lot of the content he puts out. And it was where, so when I shared the kind of fitness tip that you did today, that's where it was inspired from that. I thought that he kind of articulated that point really well. So shout out to David, I think he's got some pretty good content on there. When it comes to muscle building, fat loss,

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Starting point is 01:03:08 First question is from Amy Lang, 25. How do I train to failure for the most muscle building when I train alone? Alright, let's answer this first. It's fast, Santa Bob. Yeah. Next question. Next question.

Starting point is 01:03:21 He got it. No, you know what? Okay, there's two. There's two general schools of thought around failure training. Okay, one of them is right, one of them is wrong. So here's what they are, right? One school of thought is failure means you can't move the weight anymore.

Starting point is 01:03:35 It literally means you fail. So you're doing squats and you're on the ninth rep and you really grind it up and you're struggling. And then the 10th rep, you come up a halfway and then you fail and you drop the weight. and you're struggling. And then the 10th rep, you come up a halfway, and then you fail, and you drop the weight. That's one school of thought. The second school of thought is that failure is the last good form rep that you can do.

Starting point is 01:03:56 Anything beyond that, and now your form is off, and your now training bad recruitment patterns, your injury risk goes through the roof. You don't want to strengthen bad recruitment patterns, you don't want to increase that risk of injury, and there is no additional value in going past that intensity. I belong, we belong to that second- That's the small version.

Starting point is 01:04:17 So when you're training alone and you're going to failure, what you need to do is you need to go to the last good rep. And that's usually a rep that you're grinding out, you're feeling, and you know, you probably can't perform another one. So that'll keep you safe in the sense that you're not going to drop the bar or totally fail. However, the risk of overestimating the rep is still there, especially when you first start training a failure, because you can't gauge where failure is. So I always recommend if you train to failure whether you have a workout partner or not.

Starting point is 01:04:52 To use safety when you use a barbell. I don't even like to do it with a partner because if I fail on an exercise with a barbell with a partner that means that they have to know how to spot me properly. They usually screw that up. They usually make, I've gotten hurt with a partner spot him you wrong way more than I have failing with a barbell. Yeah, and on that sort of note, I definitely wouldn't do like a one rep max. I wouldn't recommend that unless, you know, you're testing out for some sport,

Starting point is 01:05:22 but in general, multiple reps to failure. And then to your point of like losing form is really, that's the metric I would stick with for the majority of like that's considered failure to me is when I can't perform it with perfect form. Yeah, I just wanna make it clear to the audience that you can build the most amazing physique and get really, really strong and never train to failure to do that that you can build the most amazing physique and get really,

Starting point is 01:05:45 really strong and never train to failure. You can pull. I know, obviously, we programmed that in advance maps in a bulk to teach people how to do it if you ever going to program it. But the truth is that of all the things that are going to factor in you getting strong, you losing body fat, you building muscle, training to failure, does not crack even close to the top 10. No, it's not necessary at all to do that.

Starting point is 01:06:10 It's just the tool. Right, and so, you know, if you don't feel like it, you don't feel comfortable with it, I would just say don't do it right now. If you really wanted to, I think I would ask questions like, well, what exercise are we talking about? And then I could give you a

Starting point is 01:06:28 Specific suggestion to that exercise like how I do it There's certain ones that I don't even mess with though to be honest like I don't know I've never trained I mean I guess it's a mechanical failure, right? But I don't risk like an overhead press With like a substantial amount of weight that I wouldn't do maybe I would do it in a seated press where I'm supported and I have, yeah. Where I have like a military, I don't have a problem with overhead press because I feel pretty confident bringing the weight down to my chest

Starting point is 01:06:51 or dropping the weight. Yeah, you can get rid of it pretty easy. I think benching is probably the most. Bench squat dead. Definitely if you could, you could, you could drop the bar. Yeah, easily. I was just saying bench squat dead

Starting point is 01:07:03 are the three that you would catch me training. With safeties, with bench drop the bar. Yeah, easily. As I said, bench squat dead or the three that you would catch me training. With safeties, with bench and squat though. All of them. Yeah, yeah. Deadlift, you don't need it. No. And then without safeties, bench, not a good idea to go to the bar.

Starting point is 01:07:14 No, no, no, no, no, no. No, definitely not. But I mean, that's how, that's how vulnerable probably is. That's the, I mean, that's why, too. All the rest of exercises out there, the value that I get from it, is it worth the setup or the risk, and deadlift doesn't require any sort of setup, you literally just drop the bar in that situation. Squatting, if you know how to practice bailing on the bar or

Starting point is 01:07:36 safeties, easy there. Yeah, and bench press, put the safety bars on the most benches have the safety bars, put that there, so at least you can get that out. I don't think this is an issue anymore. Most good home gyms have safety's. PRX does. The old school benches didn't. I remember the old school ones with no safety's where it was just the un-racket and the bench actually came with the rack type of deal where I've gotten stuck under that before.

Starting point is 01:08:02 And there is a technique to it by the way if you get stuck under the bar where you can get out, it doesn't feel good, but you can do it. Squatting, you practice failing with safeties. If you don't have safeties, you gotta know how to dump the bar. Do not let a spotter save you from a failed squat. That is such an easy way to go. I actually see some people get hurt. I don't recommend a spotter for squatting at all.

Starting point is 01:08:25 I just don't, I think it's such a better exercise to fail when you feel... I agree. When you feel me, you'll catch me, I mean, I don't use to do it a lot to where like people would trip out, they'd be like, oh my God, are you trying to hit a PR every day? And I'm like, no, as soon as I feel mechanical breakdown and I'm loaded, right? I'm 300 plus pounds on my back. I just drop it. Why risk it? I just, if I'm coming up and I'm like, oh? I'm 300 plus pounds on my back. I just drop it. Why risk it?

Starting point is 01:08:45 If I'm coming up and I'm like, oh, I overestimated my strength today. I'll just let it go. Instead of trying to grind through it or saying, hey, come spot me and have some dude hug me from behind, like why? Makes no sense. Like if you're gonna push to wait that much,

Starting point is 01:09:01 then learn how to bail on it or put safety to where you're doing it. Which by the way, the only proper way, if you were to get spotted on squat, which you shouldn't, you know how to drop it or you safeties is literally a person that's the hug you're chasing. And come up with you. And nobody does that. Everybody tries to grab the bar.

Starting point is 01:09:17 And then when they do that, they push you forward just slightly. And so you lose your balance for which is the worst case scenario, which I've seen that happen so many times. Yeah. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no your form has changed and that intense last rep is going towards whatever that form was that you used. So if I'm benching like a common thing to happen when someone benches and they actually fail, not the rep that's perfect but the one after that. Like go for another one. As you see this twisting or shoulder rolling and then maybe they get it up. But here's what you just strengthen that form. That's what you just strengthened. So it takes away from good technique. It encourages bad technique because that's what you're strengthen, that form. That's what you just strengthen. That's it. So it takes away from good technique, it encourages bad technique because that's what you're strengthening.

Starting point is 01:10:08 And that last rep is the most productive rep. So, I do not like the whole, like if you go until you can't lift the bar. I know very few people have the technique and skill to do that without their form going out the window. It's very rare. Only really advanced lifters I've seen be able to do that properly. Next question is from Manda 10. Every time my family sees a video of me squatting, they say, watch your knees because the women in my family have a history of arthritis and

Starting point is 01:10:33 birthsitis. Are there any special considerations I should take into account while lifting with that history? Nope. Nope. Yeah, your special considerations are the same considerations that we would tell anybody to have which is To ensure good technique good control good stability And if you don't have those things work towards those things and to always train appropriately that's it So it used to be Believed that joints got bad because they were used too much. Okay

Starting point is 01:11:04 Technically that could happen very unlikely. You'd have to really beat yourself up with just work. This is what usually happens in 99% of the time. Joints are used in sub-optimal ways over and over again, and that causes problems. So it's no different than a machine, right? Look at a machine with pulleys. If you've got a pulley with a chain on it

Starting point is 01:11:24 and the chain is off just slightly, and then pulley still working over time, it's gonna twist the pulley or cause problems. Or if you're looking at like a sliding glass door, that slides on a groove, and it's slightly off the groove, it's gonna start to chew up the groove a little bit. The joints are not, here's what's different

Starting point is 01:11:41 about your joints than a machine. Your joints are alive. That's living tissue that adapts and strengthens. So if you squat appropriately and properly with good technique, good stability, good control, not only will you not cause knee pain, you will prevent knee pain. You will cause your knees to be healthier longer.

Starting point is 01:12:01 This is why old people who strength train properly have far better mobility than people who don't move. That's a fact. So it's the opposite. Now, this whole family history. The strength and the muscles is the strength to get you through the movement. I mean, the only thing really,

Starting point is 01:12:19 if you're gonna go from like the frequency aspect of it is if you're always continuously in the sagittal plane and reinforcing that to one plane emotion to where this is why we always bring up unilateral training or we bring up other ways to have your joints acclimate towards these other stresses, twisting or sideways kind of forces to consider. So you have to be able to sprinkle that in or step out of like your programming to make sure you're accounting for those types of movements so your joint can be reinforced and strengthened.

Starting point is 01:12:54 But other than that, I mean squatting and strengthening is everything. So we should also break down though what arthritis and brositis is and the difference, right? Like I had brositis in my hips.? I had brisidus in my hips, and I had brisidus in my hips because I had weak hips and poor mobility.

Starting point is 01:13:09 Yep. So I had a tear from the weakness. Yeah, so I had weak hips, I had poor hip mobility, and I was still strength training, and what would happen, and or I would sit in a car for a long period of time, and I would get just the worst

Starting point is 01:13:25 pain in my head. It felt like someone was sticking a knife in the side of my hip. And when it ends up happening as your body thinks that there's an injury or something is wrong with that area because I'm weak in lactomobility yet I was still squatting and strain training. And so then it sends fluid there into these sacs and those sacs are what ends up pushing out and then causing all this like pain. They become inflamed. Yeah, and it becomes inflamed. Now arthritis is autoimmune.

Starting point is 01:13:52 So that's something that genetically someone could have passed out or it could be something that your body's attached. Well, there's different kinds of arthritis. Yeah, rheumatoid arthritis, which is that. Yeah, rheumatoid will be autoimmune. Then there's like osteo or arthritis from poor movement that can cause the joints to start to generate. So nonetheless, regardless of the kind of arthritis

Starting point is 01:14:13 that you have, having joints that are strong and mobile and supported well, and that move the way that they're supposed to, will make whatever your propensity to have much better. In other words, or a god, my brositis is gone. The brositis is totally different.

Starting point is 01:14:28 Yeah. It's like that those fluid, that's why I want to tell the difference because they're not the same thing. You have to understand that they're not. In mission driven. Yes. Well, the bursts of sacks themselves get inflamed.

Starting point is 01:14:37 The bursts of sacks are filled with, I think, synovial fluid. And the job is to cushion the joint, allow the joint to move well. But if it's not moving well, it's pressing on those bursa sacs. The sacs become inflamed in an attempt to limit movement. So here's the thing that people need to realize with the body. It's smart. It's a safety mechanism.

Starting point is 01:14:56 And so your body, when you're not moving well, your body will try to limit movement with tight muscles, with inflamed bursasa, brositis, with all kinds of things to kind of make you stop moving it so that it can heal. But if you're moving poorly and you go back to moving poorly, you're just gonna cause that problem to happen again. So for you with your precise your hips,

Starting point is 01:15:17 it flared up when you squatted. So you stopped squatting and went away. But this is where it gets kind of frustrating because there's a lot of fear. You know, you go to your doctor about all this stuff. It's like, well, we need to address this like crazy inflammation. And then you look at like cortisol shots

Starting point is 01:15:31 and things to like deal with that, which is literally temporary. We're not like building strength and better recruitment patterns to absolve that problem. And then later on, what's the next thing that they're gonna offer surgery? And it's like, those are the two hammers that they have. So you have to look at it from a therapy slash,

Starting point is 01:15:52 like exercise lens. This is, I'm so glad you brought that up, Justin, and this is why I wanted to talk a little bit more about this. If I went to the doctor and complained about my abercitis, that is what they give me. Of course. Give me a shot to bring down the inflammation and complained about my birthsitis, that is what they give me. Of course. Give me a shot to bring down the information and then tell me I should lay off the heavy squatting.

Starting point is 01:16:11 That would have been the prescription. And you would have felt better. Yes. And you would have felt better, but your recruitment pattern, the way you moved, won't change. So what eliminated it though was doing 90, 90s and squatting deeper. So getting to a place where I had hip mobility and I had hip strength and stability and then more gluten. And then strengthening up even more by taking a full range deep squat. And now I haven't had that in almost 10 years now. It would be crazy how bad it was too.

Starting point is 01:16:41 I mean, it was so bad for the audience to understand how it was like a kind of had this, I had it so bad that if I drove in a car for longer than 15 to 20 minutes, I would have to pull over and get out and like stretch my legs because it literally felt like with someone who was sticking a knife in the side of my head. I've used this example before.

Starting point is 01:16:59 I think it's a good analogy. It's like, imagine a window, you open your window and the window slides along a groove. So the bottom of the window maybe has like a little fin that slides in a groove and you slide the window open and you slide it back. And then you notice, oh my God, it's getting all chewed up towards the front of the track that it runs on.

Starting point is 01:17:17 But rather than line up the window better, which is probably what you need to do, you just spray some more lubricant on it and you just do that over and over again to make, well, it's not gonna work for very long. It's some point it's gonna continue to break down. Yeah, friction's still happening. Yeah, the solution would be,

Starting point is 01:17:31 why is it dragging so hard against the front side of this track and you look at it, it's not lined up properly, you lined up the window a little better. And then boom, no problem. You don't need to worry about it anymore. That's how the joints work. They work in a way that's optimal,

Starting point is 01:17:46 and then there's suboptimal ways that allow them to work, but if you add load to the suboptimal ways and you use them over and over again, then you start to get the kind of wear and tear that your body can't heal from because it's wear and tear that it's not normal wear and tear, and it causes problems. Now the other part of the question was,

Starting point is 01:18:00 I have a family history. You may have a family history of movement patterns and joints that move in a particular way. There may be issues that pop up in your family because of it, but that doesn't mean you can't work out a real issue. You may have a family history of low back pain because everybody's maybe genetically has a little bit of an anterior pelvic tail, or maybe your knees, you have your even knees that come in an angle, like mind you that a little bit, right?

Starting point is 01:18:29 So when you notice that, you work on areas to support and strengthen, you work on mobility, you work on the right exercise and how to perform those exercises, find the right issue, then your knees are gonna be healthier than if you didn't do those things at all, far healthier, so that's the answer. Next question is from Luca Curran.

Starting point is 01:18:47 You talk about the detriment of eating immediately post workout as your body is still in sympathetic drive. However, I've heard from other sources that it is precisely why you should eat post workout as it gets your body into parasympathetic drive very quickly. So I'm confused. Should I eat or not eat immediately after my workout? This is why I love having a podcast because we have long form. It's a long form form of media and we can explain the differences and nuances. Yeah, because it depends on the person, okay? Not nothing is right for everybody when it comes to health and fitness and this is one of those things actually a quite easy one Who would not benefit or who would get a detriment for meeting right after they work?

Starting point is 01:19:35 So that's good issues. Yeah, good. If you already have gut issues and you notice you're reactive you get blow digestive issues Avoid eating right after a workout because right after a workout, because right after a workout, you have some kind of normal systemic inflammation, that's what happens after a workout, which could promote leaky gut, right? It could promote the gut from the junctions that are supposed to stay tight in the gut, spread out because of inflammation, and you could encourage by eating right in that during that period of time for proteins and other parts of the food to pass through the gut when they're not supposed to,

Starting point is 01:20:08 and you could develop food intolerances or it could lead to further inflammation, which can cause dysbiosis, right? Your gut bacteria gets thrown off or whatever. So if you've got issues or you're prone to gut issues, then I would not eat right after workout. Who would benefit from eating right after a workout? Somebody who struggles to hit enough for their protein

Starting point is 01:20:26 and take every day or can't get enough calories. And they have good, their gut health is fine. And or somebody who plans on working out again, in a few hours, because studies will show that that person who ate right after the workout is gonna be better prepared for performance, for a workout that happens later on the day. So who's that, like, you know, high school football kids

Starting point is 01:20:46 who are about gonna go do double days. You should probably eat a meal right after your first session because you can go back later this afternoon. I mean, recovery's everything for that situation, right? And then again, and this is where we actually did like little ice bass in between, which then there's controversy over that in terms of building muscle and blah, blah, blah.

Starting point is 01:21:02 But yeah, you have to look at it as what's gonna benefit you best based on, you know, what my pursuit is going for. And for a healthy person whose general population, it doesn't fucking matter. No, it's not that you give it. It's like, if you didn't fit one of those specific categories that we just said, like, if you have got issues, avoid it right afterwards.

Starting point is 01:21:20 Oh, if you're an athlete who's gonna work out at second time, if you're not one of those two people, it doesn't fucking matter what you do in life. It's so splitting hair difference on the benefits or the detriment of doing that that it doesn't matter. So if you like to eat right after your workout because your favorite chicken and rice bowl place is right next to my gym so I could get it work out

Starting point is 01:21:42 and I used to go right next door, order and eat it. And that's kind of convenience, it works well for you to make a good choice. Fuckin' do it. And if it's inconvenient for you because it's like, man, I don't want to lug all this food in my bat duffel bag. There's not a restaurant that I can go eat at that's healthy. It's just easier if I get home three hours later and eat

Starting point is 01:21:57 than do that. Yeah, here's, by the way, here's why this is a question at all. Here's why the person writing this thought, I need to ask this question, it's really important. Because the fitness industry is driven by sales, like at all industries, supplements being one of the top sellers, they communicate, taking pre-packaged protein powders, supplements, post-workout, all the time.

Starting point is 01:22:22 And so it distorts the understanding. It makes you think it's more important than it isn't. Then it is. It's not important. This literally is not important at all, except for specific categories. If you like to eat after, then do it. If you don't, you don't. It literally makes no difference for that 99% of people watching this right now. It makes no difference. But you think it makes a difference because we're constantly trying to sell a supplements all the time, especially post workout supplements. Next question is from local noon enterprises.

Starting point is 01:22:51 If you owned a gym today, what requirements would a brand new trainer need to meet before they could train someone in your gym? A hundred mind pump episodes. That's not a bad one. Yeah. A hundred? Yeah. A hundred, you Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah I think that amount of hours dedicated to probably learning like that, even though it's not at a formal certification,

Starting point is 01:23:26 I feel like they probably have a better sense. I mean, I feel like Doug could probably be an elite trainer. He doesn't have any experience. He doesn't have a national certification, he doesn't have a degree in kinesiology, but I think he'd be better trainer than 80% of the trainer. He's a trainer gym because of just being around

Starting point is 01:23:41 and consuming the content. I would want to see on paper, okay, I would want to see some kind of education, so a certification that I respected, or some college, just because it shows you've had interest and you went to study it. I would want that, I would experience that necessary. Sometimes, usually it's a good thing to have experience,

Starting point is 01:23:59 but not necessary, I hired plenty of brand new trainers. On paper, there's not much. There's a lot of stuff I could see that would make me disqualify you like, oh, you've had 15 jobs in the last year. That's weird. But there's a lot of, not much I would see on the paper, on the resume that would make me go, you're hired on the spot.

Starting point is 01:24:17 Really I'd have to meet them. And what I'm looking at are how good you are at communicating. You look character. Do you, and do you, yeah, they're character? How passionate they are. good you are at communicating. You look character. Do you, and yeah, they're character. How passionate they are. Are you likable? Yep. Are you a likable person?

Starting point is 01:24:30 Are you trainable? Do you communicate well? Because those I could work with, everything else I really don't care. And I have a lot of people with almost nothing else that did so well with this. Yeah, I don't care at all. I mean, if you did a good job interviewing them, I think that matters everything. In an interview, you should be asking behavioral-based type questions in a situation where a client has knee injury and you're not sure what you're supposed to do, how would you handle that situation

Starting point is 01:24:59 and then listen to them. And then you're going to, that's going to tell you a lot about that person. That's going to be a hard question like, man, what would I do? You know, and they're like, well, you know, I would let the client know that I'm not sure about this. Let me talk to my boss and learn what I'm supposed to do. I wanna make sure, like, that's a really good answer. You're like, oh wow, okay, this person, when they don't know,

Starting point is 01:25:17 they're willing to admit they don't know, they're gonna come doing authority to learn, and they're gonna teach, oh, I could trust this person with one of my clients. So, that is so important that when you interview that you've asked a lot of these situational, behavioral-based type of questions to get a real good judge of their character

Starting point is 01:25:34 because I'll take somebody as green as they come that doesn't know anything about training but has the right characteristics to for me to develop and teach them to be a great trainer because they only gotta have about a certification or a little bit of an experience to be more educated than the average person Who's working out for them to help that person and then as long as they're willing to learn themselves and handle scenarios like that Where they don't know the right way then I'm confident to let them to do that I think you need a lot of education coming into it

Starting point is 01:26:04 I think you I think I would look for somebody that would want to pursue it, at least, in like, have that desire to have that tool in their toolkit. But really, it's the passion behind it. Also, too, I would say, like those five commandments we listed on the other episode, I think they would have to abide by that completely and like share those values. It really is a value thing for me and it's an integrity thing and it's the willingness to

Starting point is 01:26:36 really want to help and change somebody's life and they're all in on that idea. Yeah, I'll tell you guys, this is the truth now. I used to, when I would manage gyms, and then when I owned my own studio, I used to oftentimes work out in other gyms. This is just a smart thing to do. You wanna work out in your competitors gyms, see what's going on, whatever. And of all the places I recruited from,

Starting point is 01:27:00 I recruited one person ever from another gym. You know where I recruited other people from? Restaurants, recruited a guy who sold cars, I recruited a guy from a foot locker, I recruited a young lady at a retail store because of how she was talking, how she was working with people. This is where I used to pull people from.

Starting point is 01:27:20 At one time, one time did I recruit from a gym. And that's pretty much it. But likable, good communicator, willing to learn, obviously have some passion. And you got the job. These are all character traits. That's it. By the way, you want to hear a good interview.

Starting point is 01:27:36 I learned this from years ago from someone who did interviewing for a living. A great way to ask questions on interview. Because obviously, if you ask him a question, they're gonna give you the answer. They think you want to hear. Ask him why you answer. Ask that question. Well, not just that. They said, this is what I learned, this is what I learned, and I would use it and it worked really well. What you say is you name, you talk about something that you value, and then you ask them for an example

Starting point is 01:27:58 of a time that they displayed that, and you wait and watch them come up with a story. Right. It's hard to come up with a bullshit story on the fly. So I'll say something like, you know, we really value passion here at, you know, maps gym or whatever. We'd like to be passionate about our clients, passionate about fitness, helping people out. When was the time in your life when you really demonstrated passion and then you quiet and watch and see how quickly they can come up with a story or whatever? It was one of the best interview tickets.

Starting point is 01:28:25 Yeah, that's a behavioral bait. So if this person, I actually do this with Katrina, not that long ago. By the way, the example of chat GBT is a great tool for something like this. Give me, like, I'm a gym owner, give me 10 behavioral based questions for a trainer. Isn't that crazy? And chat GBT will spit off 10 good questions for you to ask somebody that are behavioral based just like you're saying right now. And so I love to do exactly what you said. So I love this by the way like obviously hiring and firing trainers was

Starting point is 01:28:54 most of my career. And I was terrible at it at the beginning. And as I got better and better realize like man, the secret to a great staff is just hiring well, is learning how to not have, because it's got a high turnover rate. And if I got better at figuring that out at the beginning, who had the right care to do just to be a sal or adjusted, yeah, it made my job a million times better. And so it took years of getting good this. And one of those big hacks was understanding what behavioral based questions are or an asset. And then like what you said, and then actually asking them after they answer me, like why did you choose that story?

Starting point is 01:29:26 Yes. Why did you choose that story to tell me? Like to really get to know somebody and make them, yeah, open up a fuck, cause they're like, damn, I was ready for that story. It's like a canned answer. Yeah, but now you explain to me like, why did you choose that, right?

Starting point is 01:29:39 So those are just some things that you can do to find out, man, you do a good job at interviewing and really get to know somebody like that. I mean, they'll figure it out. I guarantee that if I had the opportunity to get ahold of these guys when they were first just getting started at stuff, they would be amazing. And it doesn't matter if they had 10 certifications or none,

Starting point is 01:30:00 they have the characteristics to become great. And that's what you want to be able to figure out before. And you don't want to, can imagine discounting one of you guys because you didn't have that experience would be the worst decision you could ever make. Look, if you like Mind Pump, head over to MindPumpFree.com

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