Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 2226: When Slowing Down Reps is Better Than Adding Weight, the Pros & Cons of Training for Different Adaptations Each Workout, What Mid-Workout Shakiness or Cold Sweats May Mean & More (Listener Live Coaching)

Episode Date: December 13, 2023

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Starting point is 00:00:00 If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, with your hosts. Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. You just found the most downloaded fitness health entertainment podcast. This is Mind Pump. In today's episode, we answered live caller's questions, so they called in and we helped them out. But this was after an intro portion, today was 51 minutes long. The intro portion is what we cover current events.
Starting point is 00:00:27 We were talking about family life. We were talking about fun fitness facts and science. By the way, if you want to fast forward to some of your favorite parts, check the show notes, there's timestamps. Click on one boom and you're there. Also, if you want to be on an episode like this when we could talk to you, help you out.
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Starting point is 00:02:31 One for Apple Podcast, two for Facebook. The Apple Podcast winner is Rikia 1979. And for Facebook, we have Jerry B. Z. And Kerry, Freilich, McFarlane, all three of you are winners and the name of just red to iTunes at MindPumpMedia.com include your shirt size and your shipping address and we'll get that shirt right out to you. All right, there's one thing that the three of us did really well as our careers grew in the fitness space.
Starting point is 00:02:57 We trained successful trainers. Here's what we found. These are the wrong reasons to become a personal trainer. Number one, to make a lot of money. Number two, oh look, it's a fun and easy job. Number three, I just love working out, and number four, I want to be in the gym all day long. Those are terrible reasons to become a personal trainer.
Starting point is 00:03:16 Here are the reasons that we found successful trainers became successful trainers or became personal trainers themselves. They had a passion for helping people and their favorite hobby was exercise. Those two things are more guaranteed to make you successful than almost anything else. So take note, don't become a trainer unless those two things you identify with. You know it's funny is one of them I don't think ever existed until recently with the explosion of social media. Make money? Yes.
Starting point is 00:03:46 That was never a thing. Like when I used to do interviews- So misleading. Yeah, when I used to do interviews and have an interview trainer, potential trainers, and they come in, never once did, when I asked them why they would do this, they'd say, like, I heard I could make a lot of money. That was not a thing. You hear that now.
Starting point is 00:04:03 You hear that now. Because again, because we have these examples of, I mean, God, we were just, I was just on it speaking of people like this. The guy, the Sam Solic, is that how you say his last name? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, guy came out of nowhere.
Starting point is 00:04:18 I mean, I saw Mark Bell shared a video of his meet and greet. I don't know if it's the first one to get. Oh, crazy crowd. Yeah, like insane. I mean, and this guy just came from like just a year ago and no one knew who he was. Yeah. So I mean, that exists today, right?
Starting point is 00:04:34 This ability to become instantly famous and potentially make a lot of money as a trainer, but you're right, though. I agree that it's the, it's not what's gonna make you successful. No, because number one, it's a hard way to make, there's a lot easier ways to make a lot of money than to become a personal trainer.
Starting point is 00:04:53 It's not an easy way to make money. It's definitely not the kind of job that, unless you have a deep passion for helping people, you will not find it fun and easy. First of all, it's hard. It's one of those jobs where if you succeed 30% of the time, let's say you get people results and they can maintain those results 30% of the time,
Starting point is 00:05:12 you're better than 99% of the average. Like naming the other job like that will you fail 70% of the time and you're killing it. It's, okay, you like working out, that'll get old at some point because you're not gonna be training a lot of fitness fanatics like yourself. Very few trainers actually make a living training other fitness fanatics. Most people that you'll train every day people won't have a passion for no matter what you do.
Starting point is 00:05:35 They'll never have a passion for fitness like you do. And then loving to be in the gym all day long, I get that. I used to love that as well. But it is a busy, overstimulating, go, go, go. The schedule is not conducive to a normal life. Like, you're going to be there in the morning, you're going to be there at night, you're going to be off in the middle of the day. If, you know, that's to be just feeding your habit, like, your place where you want to hang out at that point. You're not really pulling yourself out financially
Starting point is 00:06:06 and getting ahead. It's like, okay, now I got my thing established. I like, and it's good to like what you're doing and working in the industry you want to work in, but also to be somewhat financially ahead. It's a tough place to be when you're comfortable. It is, but the passion for helping people is what will pull you through all the challenging clients.
Starting point is 00:06:30 You'll have more of those than you will not. It's what's gonna pull you through the hours that it requires. I mean, I know working 40 hours a week in a regular job is not like working 40 hours a week as a personal trainer. 40 hours a week as a personal trainer is your own. Every year. No, I mean, there is no break.
Starting point is 00:06:47 30 hours is considered full time in the training space. It's exhausting, it's just, it's rough, but if you have a deep passion for helping people and you love fitness, it's like one of your favorite things to do, then you can learn how to make it a career. And if those things drive you so long as you get the right training, the right mentorship, then yes, you can definitely build a career doing it.
Starting point is 00:07:09 But there's so many, the turnover for personal training are so high because I think a lot of people don't, they don't have those things, or if they do have those things, they never get the training to learn how to become successful. Because those also, by the way, the two that I mentioned, passion for helping people and you love, you know, exercise, those aren't gonna guarantee you success either.
Starting point is 00:07:29 Those are just the things that'll pull you through the tough times, you still have to learn how to build a business. You have to learn how to work with every, every Tom Dick and Harry and every difficult person. You have to learn how to help people. You have to learn how to accept the fact that, you know, you got your textbook, and there's gonna be people that are gonna be outliers all the time, you have to learn how to accept the fact that you got your textbook and there's going to be people that are going to be outliers all the time.
Starting point is 00:07:48 Well, shout out to our partners, our friend Jason over at NCI and their team. I'm going to a wonderful job they're doing because we just recently had what, 10 trainers, 10 or 12, we had 10 or 12. 11, I believe. 11, 11 trainers. Split the difference. Yeah. Yeah. Show up for the event that we had just put on, right?
Starting point is 00:08:08 So we just did something special for the business and program that we're launching. And I think almost all, if not all of them, had gone through that. So and most of these were all elite coaches, right? These are coaches that have been coaches. The youngest coach was two years. Yeah, that was the only rookie I think. Yeah, she was considered the rookie of all the, but all of them have been successful in all different levels of success and ranging all the way, I think, to 15
Starting point is 00:08:35 years, one of the coaches. So, and I think all of them had gone through NCI. So, testament to the good work that they're doing and coaching and teaching trainers had to be better communicators around nutrition which I think, I think communicating nutrition has to be one of the more difficult things. Way harder than exercise. Yeah, because it's become like a religion, right? And so, you know, just like trying to talk about religion to somebody that's like one of the things they say, don't do, but yet as a trainer, you? And so, you know, just like trying to talk about religion to somebody that's like one of the things they say, don't do, but yet as a trainer, you have to,
Starting point is 00:09:07 because that's your job is to help an educator on that. So it really does take a special kind of trainer to navigate those waters to be able to have those discussions. Well, with exercise, exercise hard to, right? Keeping people consistent, you gotta learn about biomechanics and exercise programming. Like I'm not going to make a lie to that. That's all a lot of knowledge and it's hard. But when a client shows up, they're, you train them. So if they see you twice a
Starting point is 00:09:34 week, three days a week, you train them. And so long as they kind of do what you say and you coach them, well, it's okay. Diet is with them all day every day when you're not there. And there's more bad relationships and behavior issues tied to diet So I wouldn't tackle diet with clients until much later. I didn't even tackle it Say what early days and I'm sure you guys did this too. You did everything right diet exercise a whole deal But then you start to figure out let's get the exercise part first. Yeah, let's get you stronger Let's get you feeling better through workouts and then we're to slow play this diet part because that's the tough part. That's the part where people really have a lot of pushback.
Starting point is 00:10:11 A lot of pushback and a lot of challenges. But you know, even like I said, with passionate trainers who really want to help people, the big challenge at that point, and you talk to any fitness manager, any gym manager, or you talk to any of these top coaches at NCI who coach other coaches, they'll tell you that you get those trainers, then it becomes hard to convince them that they need to learn how to build a business and sell.
Starting point is 00:10:35 Yeah, because then they're like, I don't want to sell a build, I just want to help people sell, okay. Until you make millions of dollars and you can volunteer all your services, you have to figure out how to do this, otherwise I won't support you. But if you don't start from that, like I can't, it's so, it would be so hard. Imagine how impossible it would be to take somebody
Starting point is 00:10:52 who didn't we have a passion for helping people to teach them how to become a good trainer. That would be super, super challenging. Well, you don't wanna get one or the other, right? I feel like you get the trainer who's super passionate about helping people, but they're totally adverse to selling. I do not want to sell. Or you get the guy who loves the sell,
Starting point is 00:11:12 just wants to close deals, and then they have no morals or values, so they want to help people. So it's like you, as a trainer, or a leader of trainers, I guess, that one of the challenges I always had was finding that blend. Typically, where I had my success was, I realized that getting the trainer,
Starting point is 00:11:31 all they cared about was making money and those that were getting them to care was much more difficult than getting the one who cared and teaching them how to become an effective communicator and salesperson. Yeah, I think a lot's hard, but man. Yeah, I think what happens is that the people that don't like to sell, they have a bad taste in their mouth for whatever reason, maybe they had a bad experience themselves or they had a family member that was in sales
Starting point is 00:11:52 and they have this connection to somebody who was a salesperson and they don't like them, therefore, they don't like sales. And then you would have to kind of unpack that, work on that and then explain to them that really, really you're in sales. No matter what you like it or not, you're on sale all the time. People are watching you and you are presenting yourself and presenting what your business that you represent.
Starting point is 00:12:15 You're selling your ideas to your clients on what you want them to do or not do. And so there's no way around it. If you want this profession, you have to be good at sales. It's the greatest, it's the greatest, most challenging sales job of all time. Oh, I'll say that only long. In fact, when I do the, there's a three day course I'm doing
Starting point is 00:12:32 for trainers in January, you could sign up for. And one of the, one of the topics I'm going to cover and do some in-depth training on is effective communication also known as sales. Sales skills. Now, why is coaching and personal known as sales. Sales skills. Now, why is coaching and personal training a sales job? Forget the fact that you're trying to sell in personal training or sell them a product.
Starting point is 00:12:52 That's not what I'm talking about. It's that you're trying to sell them on why they should fundamentally change their behaviors. And here's the kicker. You're reframing everything. And then here's the spoiler. You're not going to sell them on it by telling them they're going to look good.
Starting point is 00:13:08 You're not going to sell them on it by telling them they're going to lose weight. You're not going to sell them on it by telling them they're going to be attractive and sexy. They've already sold themselves on that idea and it doesn't work. They still fail. So you have to find other ways of communicating
Starting point is 00:13:20 to each individual. It's very different from personal person. That's what makes it so challenging. How do I communicate doing things the right way? How do I communicate taking small steps when this person is in this motivated state of mind just wants to jump, you know, head first? How do I communicate this person that this, that the way that their friend lost 30 pounds isn't going to work for not not just not for their friend, even though they lost the way they'll get it back, but definitely not work for them or how do I communicate to them that this is a fad or that that works that this doesn't work that, you know, yeah, I know you think beating yourself up is going
Starting point is 00:13:52 to get you there faster, but it's not like, how do I sell that effectively? And it can't just say, well, it's the right way to do it. It's like, no, no, no, you got to find a way to say to somebody so that it makes them want to do it more than what the other guys tell them, which is lose 30 pounds and 30 days, take this pill, do this special workout or follow this crazy weird, you know, diet type of thing. The three day talk that you're doing, it's our long sessions. Yeah. They're recorded.
Starting point is 00:14:20 So, you know, if you register for it, but you can't make the date, you'll still get recordings. But if you're there live, then you're gonna get to talk to all of us. Right, because then you, so Adam and Justin are gonna be on there answering questions live. And so you can just interact and go and ask us anything, we're gonna put it all out there.
Starting point is 00:14:36 So this is cool because if you've been around for a long time, you might have got to experience when we did the train, train the trainers for free. So we did this thing a live event. Got how many years? Is it five years now? More, maybe more? There was a few gyms locally. We didn't even go that far away from like, we must have done like four gyms maybe. Yeah, yeah, something like that. So this is kind of our idea of doing something similar to that, only reaching people all over the world, right? Because it's
Starting point is 00:15:03 going to be a live, you know, Zoom call or what is right? Because it's gonna be a live Zoom call. Or is it a platform we're using in Zoom? Or are we using? I believe it's him. Like, full disclosure, we're trying to unify people and they help people through health space, which encompasses fitness, medicine, wellness, functional medicine, obviously,
Starting point is 00:15:20 probably mostly personal trainers, because that's who we connect to the most. But try to unify them under this kind of common philosophy, and then I'm gonna teach some of the most important things, and then we'll have an announcement at the end of some stuff that we're working on, but you're gonna leave with some really, really good tools. So speaking of crazy and tools,
Starting point is 00:15:37 I know you guys saw the video of, by the way, I'm so guy who recorded when I told you guys a cyber truck was in a crash, and you guys are funny. And we had all sucks, it's gonna take whatever. I'm so guy we recorded when I told you guys a cyber truck was in a crash. You guys are funny. I mean, you guys are sucks. It's gonna take whatever. It's actually weird just questioning the design of it as a still fact I I want to go all Doritos.
Starting point is 00:15:54 It does it does fit you though. I mean, you should get one. Yeah, it's weird like me. I mean, it's cool. Like I wouldn't I definitely wouldn't so it gave it to me. I wouldn't give it away. Yeah, I'm saying. Oh, so was that that little drag racing stunt?
Starting point is 00:16:07 Real, real? Yeah. Yeah, the race races at 9.11. So races at 9.11. So it beats a 9.11 turbo in the quarter mile while towing another 9.11 turbo. Yeah. Great marketing. That is the most insane.
Starting point is 00:16:19 Did you see that video, Doug? I did it. That's crazy. Crazy. You know, the other acceleration the other day I was getting on the freeway. And I saw a truck carrying two cyber trucks. Oh, really? Yeah, in person. Oh, I mean, it actually grabbed my attention because they're so unusual looking. Yeah, you look much more. I haven't seen
Starting point is 00:16:38 one on the street. They look very formidable just in person, right? Yeah, much more so than when you look at them on a video. Well, so the thing about Elon, that's incredible. First off, he has so much celebrity and pull that I think it's hard for him not to sell something and people want to get it, just because of him. But he's got, he's so good with pop culture. So like in the Tesla, you know, ludicrous speed
Starting point is 00:17:02 on their Tesla model, whatever. That's front space balls. Yeah. And it literally makes, if you've ever seen, So like in the Tesla, you know, ludicrous speed on their Tesla model, whatever, that's front space balls. Yeah. And it literally makes, if you've ever seen space balls, yeah, there's a flat. You've seen that on screen right? So this is like a, like a, oh, to blade runner. So it's got that design, that kind of blade runner design and, you know, the tires look the
Starting point is 00:17:19 way they do. And then he, you know, he made it so that it's essentially bulletproof. I mean, there was that what Joe Rogan shot it with an arrow and it bounced right off. And the windows, you could hit him with a bat, nothing will happen. And meanwhile, it's so funny to me because... It's a tank.
Starting point is 00:17:34 You just see the obvious salty haters out there. So I still follow a lot of the tech magazines from Silicon Valley and tech crunch, and they're really mashable and all those kind of, and any given opportunity, they're gonna throw shade. So they start posting, you know, when they had that promotional video out, they'll put up the old one of when the guy punches,
Starting point is 00:17:58 or throws a rock, and it breaks the window. Oh, there was a metal ball, he threw it. Yeah, and so like, I don't know, I just find it, like it's so like weak, you know, like that's like, you're just showing your color right away. Speaking of weak, I follow, there's this page on Facebook called,
Starting point is 00:18:15 I think it's called futurism. And so it's kind of like a tech page or whatever. But they have a boner for going against or making Elon look bad. It's so obvious. In fact, if you look at the comments, everybody on there's like, okay, whatever. So you know how he went, he got interviewed by New York Times.
Starting point is 00:18:28 We talked about this and he's like, he said to the advertisers, I'll pull it out of the housing. Go fuck yourself. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like iconic moment, right? Yeah. Futurism posted and said, you know, Elon Musk throws a tantrum on,
Starting point is 00:18:41 an embarrassing tantrum on stage. Oh God. Bro, I read the comments. Every single person on there was like, it was the greatest thing ever. Yeah, he's super based and authentic and he just give a shit. This is what we, this is the kind of billionaires we need. I'm like, man, they're so out of touch. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:55 With what people actually, you know, think about that. But is what do you think is going to happen? I think that's because, and he was like speaking to Disney. I think like straight forward. Did you see they've lost thousands of subscribers? Have they? So I've been meaning to look up and see, because I know the stock obviously has been hurting for like the last year, but I wanted to see
Starting point is 00:19:14 what, how much they're losing right now. I don't know, that's a good question. And it's funny, because they feel it into their like, they're putting out stuff, like they're making adjustments, and it's just like, it's interesting to me, because you'll see, like, like they're making adjustments and it's just like, it's interesting to me because you'll see like now they're saying like, well maybe we should kind of back off a little bit on always trying to like add in our ideology
Starting point is 00:19:37 and things with every one of the stories. Like it's good to tell a good story and just leave the stories. They're saying that you're hearing that? Yes. Like Bob Iager's starting to say that. And it's, I think, I mean, you, if you're at that point where now you have to admit,
Starting point is 00:19:50 like, oh, wow, maybe I guess our playbooks a little off, like, there's been enough of an influx of bombs where it's like, we gotta account for this. Well, let's see, Bud Light signed with UFC to save themselves. So maybe what are they gonna do, signed with Joe Rogan or something? Well, I told you what they were gonna do,
Starting point is 00:20:07 which is they're putting a massive investment back into the theme parks. And I do think it's a brilliant pivot. I do think that, we'll have a really sore, warm place in the heart. Yeah, slowing down, I know they're famous for the Disney classics, right?
Starting point is 00:20:22 I mean, that's all iconic, right? All the Disney classics that we all know of growing up. But I think the idea of going hard in the direction of the in-person experience is a smart play. And I think it's a really smart play right now now that we've gone through this decade of, you know, being virtually connected and every company's pushing VR
Starting point is 00:20:47 and the whole virtual world and everything that for them to invest in like bringing us back together in person, I think that's a smart move and who better to lead it than a massive family type company like that. I know there's a lot of hate around them. They can pivot. Yeah, I think so too.
Starting point is 00:21:06 Yeah. And I think they will. I mean, at some point, money, you know, talks. And you just like, you know, It just looks like a bunch of executives that were really like really doubling, tripling down on trying to present like certain propaganda ideas and, you know, if they just don't do that quite as much It's you know the audience will forgive him for it. And then you have pop culture like a south park
Starting point is 00:21:32 poking at them so elegantly and accurately and bluntly yeah, like how do you like you can't deny truth no it was so well There everybody sees it. Yeah, and you're watching you know what, what were they saying? Like, you know, remake the movie, put a, you know, a female lead, make your lesbian. You know, it's like, like, that was the answer to everything. We're almost, yeah, every franchise. I know, and I was like, man,
Starting point is 00:21:54 they really did a good job. Those self-work guys are just amazing. Did you guys watch any more Christmas movies over the weekend? Did you guys, have you guys been chipping away yet or what? I, yes, so I watched Home Alone. Yeah, I've watched the Elf right? I heard you say oh well. I did watch Elf Chris vacation was the first one I started with and then Yeah, then I fell off. You know what my favorite? I think is and I like Elf is up there
Starting point is 00:22:19 And so is national impunes those are up there like I can't you could easily slot those in But oh, I guess it's more recent. Maybe it's maybe it's around elf time Four Christmas is I knew you see that for Christmas. I've heard that Vince Vaughn. Yes, it's really good for Trin and I love that one That one makes me laugh every you know who he reminds me of Vince Vaughn our good friend Jason Phillips no Tell me that Vince Vaughn thought he mind you. Yeah, similar personalities. Yeah. Oh, my God. Tell me that Vince Bond's telling you mind you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Similar personalities.
Starting point is 00:22:48 Yeah, yeah, yeah. They get a similar humor. Every time I see a similar humor. So similar. Is this more of an adult on the right? It's all adult. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's all adult.
Starting point is 00:22:56 Yeah, it's literally the premise is hilarious, right? And I think maybe why I could treat it and I like it, because we were single for so long and not settling down. We waited a long time to even have kids. And so it's literally this couple that have chose not to get married, chose not to have kids, just travel. They both are very financially successful. And on the Christmas holiday, they lie to their family always
Starting point is 00:23:16 and tell them that they're doing, they're like donating their time to kids. They're really just going to go and sort of travel. Yeah, they're going to Fiji, they're going to these places whether they tell the families and they get caught. So that's how the show opens up is they're going to Fiji. Everybody in the family thinks that they're off, you know, saving children in Africa or something.
Starting point is 00:23:33 And then the news, like the airport delays. And so the news is there to record everybody and they get caught on camera. And then the families call them out. And so they have to do four Christmases in one day that they go see four of the families. And each the families call them out. And so they have to do four Christmas's in one day that they go see four of the families and each of their parents are divorced. So they gotta go to each.
Starting point is 00:23:49 For the moms house dad's house. Yeah, and it's just, it's just from the sponge. Yeah, it's like cheer comedy. It's like you get the type of two people that would drive away, not wanna be with family on Christmas for those reasons. And then their force to, it's like,
Starting point is 00:24:04 the best characters on there are with the care brothers. Yeah, dude. Yeah, you know, I mean, there's shows up. They start fighting. And then one of them has kids with it like his wife got all these kids or whatever. And it's just the stuff she says about. Yes. So Courtney and I have one. we usually watch it like the night before because it's like, and that might even be what it's called, the movie. It's with Seth Rogan. And they wear like the Christmas sweaters and like he's Jewish, he wears like the Hanukkah one. And the whole premise is like, basically one of the guys like his parents died like long time ago. So they kind of like created this sort of like ritual that they would do every time where they would like party
Starting point is 00:24:51 really hard and all this and so it's some like grandiose like Christmas party they're trying to get into and all stuff but so they take like all these drugs and everything and so Seth Rogan at one point, he like stumbles into a church and like he's kind of in there with his wife and his wife's family. He was supposed to be on his own. His wife gave him all these drugs and he's like,
Starting point is 00:25:11 yeah, I'm gonna take him all once. It's like he's sitting in the pew and he's like, she was trying not to get him to come with him. He's sitting in there sweating and then I'll sit and get some and he's like, we didn't kill Jesus. He like gets out and he's like, oh my God, lost my shoes. I don't know guys see that one. What's it called we didn't kill Jesus. He's like, oh my God, I lost my shoes.
Starting point is 00:25:25 I don't know. What's it called? What's it called? Is it night before you said? I think it's called night before. It's really fun. I'm gonna put that on my list. I saw that.
Starting point is 00:25:33 Yeah, I keep bringing it up because I like talking to people. I feel like every year I find one that somebody else has got like a sleeper one. For the kids, if you guys haven't had your kids watch the Christmas prep, prep and landing on, oh, they're great, they're shorts. Oh, okay. So they're only like eight to 12 minutes long. Look up, prep and landing for a Disney Doug and show the guys. Oh, it is called night before.
Starting point is 00:25:53 They can't have the night before. The night before is the one that you're talking about? Yeah. Prep and landing, I've seen that too. That's good. They're really good. They're really, really good. There's like three of them, I think,
Starting point is 00:26:01 and they're great little shorts for the kids. Speaking of dating and stuff like that, I just read this interesting study on big red flags that men will say are red flags for them. So, I mean, once you hear you, of course, that's a red flag, but I wasn't expecting it. So 64% of men said this particular thing was a red flag. If a girl said this one thing. Okay. I mean, you guys are gonna say obvious ones. Okay. Maybe some of you do with your buddies. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:32 You know, if all your friends, you have the biggest penis. No, that's not a kill. That's a terrible red flag. Thanks. Oh. Yeah, I'm angry and happy for you. I'm not gonna say happy about those. Let's check it out and see those.
Starting point is 00:26:43 So 64% of men said that if a woman told them they were a communist. It was a red flag. What? Yeah, I'm like, no shit. That's a goal. I guess. That wouldn't even mean my list is like, why would it be one flag for you?
Starting point is 00:26:59 Well, of course, I mean, of course, but I wouldn't like, did they give them like multiple choices? So that was like, there was a bunch of them. But how often does that come up? It's like, no, I mean, I don't know. It's that number one. And that was one of the biggest ones. That, I mean, of course, you imagine you're on a date
Starting point is 00:27:14 with a girl and you're hanging out. A literal red flag. Yeah, she's like, you know, we really should seize the means of production. I'd be like, huh? What? What do you mean? Well, you know, from each, it's yours is mine.
Starting point is 00:27:24 What's mine is yours. From each of their abilities you know, whatever. I'm like, oh shit. No, no, no, yeah, you know, I don't know about that. You know, do you hate capitalism? Like, uh, check please. It's funny. It's usually like real high maintenance stuff. Yeah, for me. Yeah. Like what? I'm trying to think of like specific examples. But well, when I was when I was dating, it was, I can't play video games with my buddies. I mean, that was like a down-to-down. Or too much makeup in my years.
Starting point is 00:27:51 Too much like presentation, it's like, who am I dating? You know, it's not even the same person. Can I tell you the worst, worst thing? And it's more women than men, but some guys do this too at the gym, where they wear HALA perfume, at the gym? Yeah. What are you doing?
Starting point is 00:28:05 Nozzie. I can't stand. So I actually have my little, I'm like allergic to like, yeah, you're really super sensitive to it and all of the men in Katrina's family. Just love, Cameroon. Love. I know when her brother was, her brother will help,
Starting point is 00:28:20 you know, he's doing our moving. So yeah, yeah, bro, you give him a hug and that's it. Oh, shit. That's my like, cool water. I would never, whenever, yeah, bro, you give him a hug and that's like cool water. I would never, whenever, and they went to hold him. I still have that. That's like, Dracar. Max goes over there.
Starting point is 00:28:30 I got to, I got to give him a bath when he gets back homes. Otherwise, like the whole time I'm with him, I can, I can smell the cologne on him. You know, it's interesting about perfumes and clones. Those are one of the worst defenders when it comes to zeno estrogens. The, the chemical is that I believe it. That act like that have kind of these weak hormonal effects
Starting point is 00:28:47 on the body. Why is that? So why is the chemical is that strong? It is. It's like the chemical. The chemical. The chemical. The chemical.
Starting point is 00:28:55 The chemical. No, that's like, like if you get like natural colasse, like super, like most colons. That's like expensive kind, yeah. Use chemicals. And the chemicals that produce these smells are Xenoestrogens. You know what's interesting about that market is that there's only a handful of people that make
Starting point is 00:29:07 like all the clones and perfumes. So they're like suppliers? Yes, they're all like, and then their brand is like glasses, like Calvin Klein and all these brands that everybody touts all the time with that. Like they all go to the same source. It looked this up, you can fact check me here, Doba. I can't remember, I wanna say it's like in Switzerland
Starting point is 00:29:24 or some place, there's like a place where most all smell smells are made. And then big companies go and they buy that formulated smell. I'm going to smell capital of the world. Yeah, and then my ad like a few notes or whatever, but it's the base. You know, if you think about it, I can't think of another product that doesn't sell what it actually does ever on commercials. Perfume's and clones are never like, it smells good.
Starting point is 00:29:49 It's never that. It's always like weird music. Get women, get men. Yeah, no, it doesn't. I just saw the latest one. You know that kid, the main kid from Dune, you know? Oh yeah, yeah, the actor, right? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:01 Like every now and then you'll see, he's like Georgie or whatever, like, and he, the commercial ad just starts with this and just like, boom. Yeah. I got to say it. I got to say it. It's like it.
Starting point is 00:30:14 That's it. That's it. I love that. It is with like Brad Pitt. You know what? I'm like, huh? I take that back. I take that back.
Starting point is 00:30:21 The other product that doesn't tell you what it actually does in the commercials alcohol. Like, you never see a beer commercial like get smashed. It's never like that. So I was like, yay, but wait a minute. What does it really do? For Fumon Cologne, they don't say what they do. It's not like this smells like whatever.
Starting point is 00:30:33 It's always something super weird in the commercials. It's always like, it's always had to you like really portray that. Yeah. Yeah, smell TV never ever. Never took. Did you ever movie theaters at one point experiment with that? With what? Smell. In the idea. Like Did you ever move it to yours at one point experiment with that? With what?
Starting point is 00:30:45 Smell. In the good idea. Like, misting out while you're watching. Especially to compete with somebody's hot dog. You're like, popcorn. I mean, for like things like, you know, I think they called it. Really?
Starting point is 00:30:55 Yeah, I think look up smell of vision. I mean, if it, he's still looking up at my thing, is you ever find my, what's so cool? I'm still looking for it. Yeah. Yeah, do you know what he do? No, they're picking your nose. That sphere in Las Vegas, I'm sure that they're probably Yeah, what do you do to their picking your nose? That's fear in Las Vegas.
Starting point is 00:31:05 I'm sure that they're probably like experimenting with that kind of stuff. I would imagine. Yeah, I mean, if you had like, it was the 60s. I think in the 60s, they were doing all kinds of weird shit with movie theaters. Try and make them more, you know,
Starting point is 00:31:16 more of an entertainment list of all the bad ideas. Imagine a smello vision. Gross. It depends. Like if they were, if they were strategic about it, they did it like it like, we're like it, good opportune moments where it should smell good. You're in like a redwood forest and so you get this kind of mist of trees.
Starting point is 00:31:32 You know? And that, oh man, it feels like we're there. Evergreen. Or you're at the ocean and you get the salty smell of the ocean. I could see if you sprinkled. That's more like a theme park. But you wouldn't want to smell everything. You wouldn't want the guy in the movie
Starting point is 00:31:45 Drag pass a pink What's a spell? You'd want you wouldn't want you wouldn't want that the guy in front of you is Ruins my whole story is the smell doesn't add up. Yeah Rocky training montages would not be great God Kind of Smells familiar that would you guys would you guys think of the Christmas party? Oh, it's dying. Damn. Oh, I think that smells familiar though. Would you guys think of the Christmas party? Oh, it was great.
Starting point is 00:32:07 Yeah, which one does. One of my favorite ones. So I don't know how you pronounce it. Firm and itch is a company since 1895 that's been creating fragrances. I believe they're one of the biggest formulators. I think they're going to be. Perfume, I don't know, it's tough to find.
Starting point is 00:32:20 I think there's only a handful of them. Like Christmas party. What a great vibe. What a great vibe. What a great vibe at firm name. Christmas party. What a great vibe. What a great vibe at the Christmas party. Yeah, such a great time. Everybody there. That's my favorite one.
Starting point is 00:32:30 It was so good, man. That was my favorite one. I had never seen, like the bar set up and everything. Those tick-tock things. What do we do? What do you call that, Andrew? What is the, what is the, the spinny thing? Yeah, the CX exactly.
Starting point is 00:32:42 That's one of the much old, spinny thing. What do you got these? Well, I don't know exactly what it's called, but it's basically like the 360 video being taken around here. That's like it, yeah. It's like a boomerang video, except so you're standing on a 60 boomerang video.
Starting point is 00:32:55 You're standing on the circle with people. You're facing out, they put their phone on it and they spin it around you and it records and then you get this like, I didn't know what to do it for. I was like, what? And then once I figured it out, I this like, I didn't know what to do it for. So it's like, what? And then once I figured it out, it was like cool. I had no idea what I was going to.
Starting point is 00:33:09 Shout out to Margaret and Jerry and Katrina, the girls that put this put the thing together. Chokey, like they all, Katrina, and I know I think your wife helped too, Courtney helped. Like she really like asked everybody, hey, they were all, they were meeting, right, leading up to this. And it's always like, you know, what, what ideas do you have?
Starting point is 00:33:29 And I believe it was Margaret's like, oh, you got to see this new viral TikTok thing that they're doing. We could rent one of these and Katrina's like, cool. Let's say, you know, so funny was I was asked to like pick the music. And she's like, you know, give me a song. That's how Katrina asked me. Give me a song for the, the, the photo booth ask me. Give me a song for the photo booth. And I'm like, song for the photo booth, I can explain.
Starting point is 00:33:48 And she can tell she didn't want to tell me. It wasn't surprising. Yeah, and she wasn't surprised me, but then she wants me to choose a song. So I just choose like, what a song that I like, right? And she's like, that's a terrible song for this. And I'm like, well, maybe if I had some more detail, what I make, like, if I wanna see, like,
Starting point is 00:34:01 in some context. Yeah, I had no, so they totally threw away what my idea and the song they chose I thought was perfect. Well it was better than that mirror idea we had the other year. Yeah, that was like real mirror or something. That kind of fell on its face right? Every year we have something a little different right? That's kind of cool.
Starting point is 00:34:17 You shouldn't do a mirror. People are supposed to like cry because they see the real self or it didn't happen. No, no, no, don't have put a bunch of fitness people in the mirror especially when that's in the mirror. We'll see what they want to see, dude. Self-conscious, you know what I mean? Look at this mirror. Bad lighting mirror, you know what I mean? Terrible idea for a...
Starting point is 00:34:32 Ha ha ha ha ha ha. Freaking like that. Look how ugly you are in real life. Maybe that's what we should have out here. I thought it was warped, you know, mirrors, like fun house. I thought I'd fit this problem. Yeah, I'm going home.
Starting point is 00:34:42 Why? I don't know, anyway. So Adam, did I tell you guys, I was anyway. So Adam, did I tell you guys? I'll tell you Adam. Did I tell you guys about the island that's for sale off the coast of San Francisco? Did I bring this up? No on the show. No. There's an island for sale off the coast of San Francisco. Let me pull this up and the reason why I want to tell you guys about it is Is it already occupied with what? I don't know What are we calling now?
Starting point is 00:35:06 No, no, no, no, I gotta find it because challenged look at that you were stuck there I mean, yeah, I'm like I'm trying to say Box okay, this is my land. We got it's it's called red rock island It's in the San Francisco Bay. It's the only privately owned island 25 million dollars. It's five and It's 5.8 acres of land. That's actually not that expensive for your own private island. No, now here's the problem,
Starting point is 00:35:31 because that's what I thought. I'm like San Francisco. You couldn't buy 5.8 acres anywhere in San Francisco for $25 million. It would be all the way more. Yeah, yeah. The problem is it's all getting to it. Well, it belongs to like four different districts.
Starting point is 00:35:44 There it is. Oh, and it's all, look at the beach on it though. Yeah, but there's no like flat getting to it. Well, it belongs to like four different district, there it is. Oh, and it's all, look at the beach on it though. Yeah, but there's no like flat area to build. You can build, you can build on it. You can chop the top off. You can build on it. It's so easy. Chop the top off right there.
Starting point is 00:35:56 No, no. No, so you can actually buy that, huh? You can buy it, but there's, you have to go through a bunch of like, you have to go through San Francisco and their regulations. Then there's like, let me see, any development would have to pass through three levels of bureaucracy. Now we're talking.
Starting point is 00:36:17 Yeah, that's why. Four point one acres of the island is in Contra Costa County, zero point zero nine acres is in Marin and the remaining one and a half acres is in San Francisco. So dumb. So you got to go through all three at the get to do anything. Yes. So one guy who owns it, his name is Brock Durning. Sounds like a guy who we don't want to do. Yeah. He's been living in Alaska for decades and headed the property from his father and he wanted to make a desalination plant, but he couldn't get through the regulations. Could not wait.
Starting point is 00:36:48 What a waste. What a waste. Terrible, right? Yeah. I know. Because how cool that would be to turn it into a party destination. People have been like, let's build a desalination plant so you get water, make it a solar panel system, and then the regulations are just so insane.
Starting point is 00:37:03 It's too bad, right? Because it's sitting right off the coast and I feel like you could do something awesome there. solar panel system and then the regulations are just so insane. It's too bad, right? Because it's sitting right off the coast and I feel like you could do something awesome there. It's beautiful location. You should be amazing. If you could actually build on the top of that right there and have a little helicopter pad and a little boat launch.
Starting point is 00:37:17 And I mean, I would do that. That's awesome. But if you can't, that's stupid though. If they find like a hidden like, you know, area underneath it Justin. Yeah Yeah, there's people in the sun thinking I know speaking of things a good bunker destination for me. I think of things that look good They just did a study and found that men were considered handsome Okay, so Adam so I'm listening
Starting point is 00:37:42 You do just Sorry, no's the designated guy. I don't know about that. Man who are considered handsome, earn on average 20% more than the average man. I mean, that's taller too. Right. Taller, good looking. Like, they're all those things are.
Starting point is 00:37:59 I'm in similar as women. Yeah, I don't know. I didn't say anything. I mean, I know it's, this is all these, I'm, I'm, I'm, anytime I bring this up, I get hate, but that it's, this always brings me to like the, the privilege debate that everybody gets. That's a big bullet. Handsome privilege.
Starting point is 00:38:13 Yeah, it's like, there's a lot of different privileges that are out there that like, you know, that we can't control, you know, and so it's so funny how we, we tend to isolate some and make them like everything. Well, so the race one is like this massive thing, or sex one is this massive thing. We say, there's so many different things. And then mindset and experiences, and I mean, you can list an infinite number.
Starting point is 00:38:33 Yeah. But what they said in the article too, is why we tend to treat good looking people differently is because it is a strong sign of healthy genetics. This is why we consider some things attractive and other things not. It's an outward sign that you're healthy. Is you think it's more that,
Starting point is 00:38:50 or do you think that it's attractive? I think both. I think both. I think both. I think both. I think both. It presents more confidence in. People want to look at attractive.
Starting point is 00:38:57 Exactly. Exactly. Exactly. And more than ugly people. Well, I think it's both because, first off, you present yourself as good looking, you're probably good looking as a kid, going up. So people treat you differently because the genes are signaling good health
Starting point is 00:39:07 and whatever. But then also you get the feedback loop of people treating you better. So you have a different outlook on life and you have a more confidence. So it's this positive feedback loop. So I have dated girls, so that this is a massive disadvantage too though.
Starting point is 00:39:18 What do you mean that they're attractive? Yes, because people, that's all their values. Yes, I've given them everything, everything comes so easy that like they've, they've had a hard time finding purpose or actually sticking to one thing for a long time. So any sort of loyalty to anything
Starting point is 00:39:37 because there's always somebody else who's offering them a better opportunity or like that or trying to get their attention. I think good looks may have more negative effects on women than men because of appearance. Well, because appearance is more valued by most people for women than for men. Like if you're a good looking dude, but you're kind of a loser, you don't make any money or whatever, you're not going to get very far.
Starting point is 00:40:00 Not very far. Yeah, and most women will rank things like sense of humor and status and work ethic and stuff like that much higher. Whereas appearance tends to rank much higher in women. So if you're a good-looking girl, especially as a young girl, then you get this feedback loop that that's what's important. That's the most important thing about you. And then as you age, you know, that goes away for everybody. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:20 So that's gotta be a tough situation. But I thought that was interesting. They called it handsome privilege. All right, what do we do with that? What do we do with that? They say, me getting argument with someone good looking. I don't know, I don't know. That's your privilege talking.
Starting point is 00:40:29 Yeah. You give me a good end back. Any trait you can spit in at the same time. So did you guys, I want to tell you guys about this influence where I just found and how much money they're making. And that's not going to be the weird part. It gets actually kind of weird.
Starting point is 00:40:42 But I'm going to bring them up real quick. Just to kind of show you, it was really interesting to me when I read this. So there's an AI influencer, who's now generating about $11,000 a month, not a huge amount. We know influencers that make a lot more money than that, but six figures off of a TikTok account.
Starting point is 00:41:00 And it's AI generated. It's not real. Wow. It is not. Six figures. It is not real. $11 It is not six figures. It is not male. 11,000 dollars a month. That's the ideal business. It is a 100% AI generated individual. Wow. It's not even a real person. Okay, with this full AI stuff, like we're going to be able to get away, like these people are going to be able to get away with that and make money off of it. I think it's
Starting point is 00:41:22 a, I think it's a small window. Yes, I think what I brought up about that Sam Sola kid. So after I found out about that kid, I kind of dug through his stuff to get it. Anytime I hear about someone exploding with that, I'm curious, right? What is this guy doing? That's the girl right there.
Starting point is 00:41:37 Oh, wow. Now, dude, that doesn't even look like AI. It doesn't. Wow. It doesn't. Obviously, attractive person, but I wouldn't think that it was AI. Wow. That looks real. Isn't that weird? The only thing that gives away it's not real is how good
Starting point is 00:41:50 the photo of all of them. Every picture was perfect. Yeah. She looks super real, but every, every the background. Yeah. Now, don't you think though, at some point? I like the comments. Don't you think at some point, though, that they'll figure that out and then they So it make it more gritty. So okay. Yeah, so I Do think there's this small window where like this fool's enough people. There's also a percentage of people Probably don't care. Yeah, I was gonna say I don't think it's really full And there's obviously a market they make Draw balls at people fuck so there's obviously people that don't care right sorry
Starting point is 00:42:22 Jack true. I mean it's a fact, Doug. I know it's a fact. Okay. I mean, it's just the way you presented. So is there in your face? Is there a more elegant way to say that? I like love. Oh, yeah. There's a group of people that make love to plastic dolls.
Starting point is 00:42:34 There you go. Much better at a much better. Okay. So I'm having time to be that political. I have fixed relations. My point is bringing up that Sam Lo is that. So is that. So as I as a
Starting point is 00:42:46 dove into this stuff to see kind of like when he's all about cool guys. Mark guy super jacked. It's and I heard Josh say it is and it was exactly what I kind of thought was just Ron Gritty. There seems to be this movement and gravitation towards these influencers and people now that are more authentic and more real. And so people appreciate the kind of, you know, grimy gym area and the hoodie and like
Starting point is 00:43:16 just not combed hair and the, you know, I'm saying eaten cereal in the morning just with the, with your phone iPhone out like or like, not- Because it's novel. Yeah, when everything's perfect, then that's right. So not edited up, not hype music behind it, and just me talking to the camera and giving you tips and stuff that I've learned about. That's so funny. I feel like simultaneously both are gonna be very popular. Like you have like your super scrubbed, like AI,
Starting point is 00:43:41 out version, because I'm just thinking too in music. That's already happening the same thing. Sure. And I'm very much drawn to the garage band style, like the, you have to go see them live because it's just not even the same thing otherwise. Yeah, besides live, because live can be very hard. At some point, maybe AI will do that, but the challenges that AI will be able to copy, you know,
Starting point is 00:44:07 greedy, they'll be able to call on picture at least picture in video. So at some point, people using AI to create these things, what do you mean? The markets are going to go in this right? Okay, we'll make a somebody who looks like they're talking to the phone or it's got to be or. So there are, there will also become a tool though that you'll be able to bolt on to your software that you'll be able to bolt on that will tell you I
Starting point is 00:44:27 I agree. I think we're gonna have AI you'll detect AI. Yes, 100% 100% I mean I and we that's cool I mean we've said it kind of tongue in cheek, but we really took action and did it I mean anybody that's ever seen our podcast logo it says a 100% human grade now. Yeah, I do think you're right on that point that it's gonna go. There isn't one organic. People are gonna wanna know. And by the way, to Justin's point, there'll be a portion of people because here's the thing that will be valuable of AI
Starting point is 00:44:55 is it will be next to free. Yeah. Because it's not taking up any real person's time. So they'll be able to give away good free stuff. You don't even need cameras. Right. So there, there will challenge you either. It's like, oh, bubble gum. Well, that, so there'll be a, but there'll be a divide in the, in the population of people that they don't care that it's fake AI, because they're getting what they want from it. And it's free. Then there'll be other people
Starting point is 00:45:21 that are like, I'm willing to pay and spend money for less perfect because I know it's real. And I want that, I want as close to a human connection as I can have, even though I know it's a virtual world we're doing this in, at least I feel that it's this authentic person. You guys watch it. And maybe one day I'll meet them.
Starting point is 00:45:37 Now, you guys watch the movie X Machina. Yes. I thought one of the more brilliant, one of the best sci-fi movies ever made. Very, very, very. One of the more brilliant things about it was this machine, eventually that's boiler alert, you know, ends up killing everybody.
Starting point is 00:45:48 But the machine itself learned what this particular interviewer liked based off of all of his internet searches. So it literally became so alluring and so convincing to him because it could manipulate him so effectively because it knew what he liked. At some point, if AI can connect to your Apple Watch, your computer's camera, read your pupil dilation, your heart rate, your cortisol levels, it could literally, in real time, change and mold itself to hit all those buttons. It'll be almost impossible not to get fooled. Have you guys seen, and this is just on the thread of technology, but I watched a commercial
Starting point is 00:46:28 where they're promoting this product that was basically like kind of like a Google search or like something that you'd used to search things on your phone or whatever, but it would shoot like a projection onto your hand. And so it was like a little clip, like you attach it to your body and then you kind of audibly talk to it. But then like when you need to look up something, it's like boom, I'm looking and it's shooting it on my hand. And then like they're going on with their day.
Starting point is 00:46:54 And it seemed to me like it was trying to promote like a different way to interact with technology instead of our phones, trying to like one step with trying to kind of get us out of like, you know, this manual sort of like, I'm always on my phone looking down in my posture shitty. So I thought it was interesting. I don't know what the product's called,
Starting point is 00:47:15 but it's definitely out there. Yeah, I don't know what the evolution of that looks like, right? Because that's also I think going to come to a halt at one point where we recognize what that's doing to all of us. I mean, it's crazy to me like you guys have seen have you seen some like these kids That are like 18 19 years old and they grew like they grew up on the iPhones and they're like their posture It's a shrimp now. Yeah, they're completely rounded forward. You're gonna even talk about their brain their attention You're just talking about their body. Yeah, and so you And so there's a lot of this stuff that's unfolding now.
Starting point is 00:47:46 And it takes a while for us to figure this out. Speaking of which, a big mask, I got to read this to you guys about things that took a little while and now we have the data. Even though a lot of us knew this already, we have data now. Did you guys see the, there was a analysis on studies on masks, a systematic review on children. So during COVID, first of all, the studies showed that it didn't prevent, really didn't prevent any transmission. But here's what it did find.
Starting point is 00:48:12 An extensive body of research has found harms associated with mask wearing in children. These associated harms include negative impacts on speech, language, and learning. Mask wearing caused reduced word identification and impedes the ability to teach and evaluate speech. It also may impact mental health and social emotional well-being by limiting the ability to accurately interpret emotions, particularly in younger children. There's also evidence that masks hinders social, emotional learning, and language literacy development, and young children with special needs, and autism may be disproportionately impacted
Starting point is 00:48:47 by mask requirements. Like, the brain, we are so tuned to reading faces and little minor adjustments to your emotions and whatever, that making kids wear that, we sacrifice the law. It's like everybody knew that. It's just like we just decided to discard that thought and just run the experiment.
Starting point is 00:49:08 Yeah, it's just frustrating because it's like, you're not gonna be able to convince anybody that still has issues with that as it's their pacifier. It's the way that they're consoling themselves. They're still alert. I mean, I saw it in our forum. People were discussing some things that they like or not like about us or
Starting point is 00:49:25 agree or disagree with. Someone said the mask. Well, they brought up that we thought that like when you bring up like that we handle COVID the wrong way, there's still people that believe that that was the best way to handle that. Wow. Oh, God. Yeah. In our community. After you look back, it's like you I would love to have debate because discussion is just good, but it's a really walk right out. I really think. I believe it, you know, how do we not? It would have been 10x worse. And they thought the data, the data's clear. Mountains of evidence.
Starting point is 00:49:52 Now the data is clear. There's not even speculation. It's all pretty down. It's clear. Not as a valid read all that but not everybody reads. It's a term for that. It's called cognitive dissonance. It's a very, very different.
Starting point is 00:50:01 I'm telling you right now, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's prevalent enough to be in our community, who listen to us daily. So imagine how many more people are out there that actually still think that way, that still think that it was the right sacrifice, even with what you're bringing up, that still doesn't matter to them.
Starting point is 00:50:20 Yes, there's a percentage of people now, and I've seen it, I've seen that also on our channel, of people that came out and said, like, I was wrong. I thought, so we a percentage of people now and I've seen it. I've seen that also on our channel. A people that came out said, like, I was wrong. You know, I thought, you know, so we do have some people with that awareness, right? Self-awareness that have admitted that, oh man, I thought we did it the right way and now I see it wasn't it. But then there's still a lot of people and I know a lot of people that I think that that was and it would have been way worse. Had we not crazy. I had mentioned earlier, like good looks and this and that.
Starting point is 00:50:47 I talked about, and then we talked about AI. And I said, acne like, you know, AI might make people have acne and make them look real or whatever. You know, I read a study on red light therapy and acne. Oh, yeah, it is an effective acne treatment. So you could use, if you have acne, what is it doing that regenerate the skin,
Starting point is 00:51:04 changes the microbiome on the skin? Oh,ate the skin changes the microbiome on the skin? Oh, so it's changing the microbiome on the skin? That's some of the speculation, but it has been shown in studies to improve not just acne, but the acne scars that are left from really bad cystic acne. So what connection does the acne have with like your mitochondria health? Is it is that a sign of poor mitochondria health or Or is it like what's... I think having, because that's really what that's doing, it's charging that. I think that's better, more skin that regenerates faster and I guess faster and healthier.
Starting point is 00:51:35 And dyslexia. Dislexly to have problematic cells. Yes, and it's less likely to have acne. That's interesting. But the studies do show, especially with the scarring, cause backings. So you see, you know, you'll run into adults right where you could tell they had a really bad acne
Starting point is 00:51:48 when they were kids. But it's an acne treatment. So especially for body acne, that's the other one. If you had acne in your back or your body, well, I know it's dreadlocks. That's why it works. It definitely made a real big impact. And, you know, I've talked to multiple people
Starting point is 00:52:02 that have had experiences without using the red lights, really helpful, that's interesting. That using the red lights, really helpful. That's interesting. That's pretty cool. That is cool. I don't really deal with this as a kid, but I know adults who still struggle. It's really tough to struggle with that, but I don't know anyone that have tried red light.
Starting point is 00:52:18 I had no idea until I pulled up a study. I want mine back. Better here at the studio. But I see the guys are using it. So I feel bad. Tell you this is it all time. Yeah. feel bad. I don't use it all the time. Yeah, he was, this morning, he was in on it again. So I feel bad about taking it because they're actually using it,
Starting point is 00:52:31 but I miss having it at my house right now. Hey, I want to close off with telling you Arnold's PR. So you guys know what his PR is wearing and the biggest lifts? Did you guys know that he, like, like, gold narrows? Yeah, when he was lifting, let's take a guess at all this. Yeah, I'm going to guess his his squat at 575. I'm going to guess his bench at 400. I'm going to bet in 405, 425 deadlift at
Starting point is 00:52:57 600. Okay. How close am I? His back squat. What did you say it was? 575. What did you say? Yeah, I'll say 515. 525. So back squat, 525. He is, oh, wait a minute, that can't be right. Oh, okay, here we go. His bench press, what was his highest bench press? 4 or 5?
Starting point is 00:53:17 525, sorry, his best squat was 610, sorry, got that reversed. Bench press was 525, squat was 610. What was his best ed lift? Well, I 700 when it's probably higher than. 710. 10, 10, 10. He's not bad. That's really bad. Not bad at all.
Starting point is 00:53:32 That's pretty damn good. You know who is, you know who is way stronger than him? Columbo. Frog, go, go, go, go. Little last fronk. I mean, he's now how they became buddies. Right?
Starting point is 00:53:41 I was a little smaller, but he was stronger than he was. Yeah, he was a lot of stuff, right? Yeah, but I mean, that's pretty damn good, but what's interesting is that you see guys, like a 525 back squats a lot, but you know, there's, I've known guys to be able to squat that much.
Starting point is 00:53:55 The bench press, 525, I don't know very many people I could do that. He was obviously very strong in the bench press. What about the Hulk, I forget his name. Lufurino? Lufurino, I don't know. I don't know what his, what's that? I felt like he was stronger than him, but like, you know, it was.
Starting point is 00:54:07 No, I don't think he was. No, I don't think he was. No, no, no, just go to show you how strong Rani Coleman was. Yeah, Rani Coleman was. He was. Made no sense. How strong? I remember that video of him doing the 200 pound dumbbell chest presses.
Starting point is 00:54:20 Well, he used to row like five plates. Yeah, I know. Ben over row. Like he did some crazy. And he'd be, I remember that video of him leading up to show time. Like he was like a week out from getting on stage and doing 700 and something pound. 800 pound deadlift. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:37 Where he was, yeah, he was saying. He said that's the one. He was at 800 pounds squat. He said that's the one that he thinks calls all the back damage. Yeah, yeah. Crazy. So Justin, you said something today, I was shout out. I'm going to give a different, a different type of a shout out.
Starting point is 00:54:50 You're talking about music. I've found this artist. I think I shared the artist with you that I've been listening to like crazy. And I was like, oh, you know what? I should share that on the podcast. His name is Steven Rodriguez. What would you consider his music? What would you say?
Starting point is 00:55:03 It's like, I share with you like, oh, you shared that guy. I just do. Blue Z jazz, like, what would you say? I don't even know. Somewhere in between all that, a little bit of a country kind of vibe, but yeah, no, I think it's more just new way blues, like, because two, I showed you a few other kind of artists examples of that. Like a rain wolf was another one that I love,
Starting point is 00:55:25 but yeah, I think, yeah, he's rad. He's a great artist. Yeah, he's got like a raspy, I sent over, I sent over to Jess Cutt. I don't know if you ever heard it when I sent it over with Sinc some stuff to her. I know she liked it. She sent back, but Stephen Rodriguez.
Starting point is 00:55:38 So check that out. It's not like a follow on Instagram. It's a check out on Spotify. And I've probably got like eight of his songs downloaded. I like it so much. Check this out. Everybody likes pre-workouts, right? You take it, you feel energized, get better pumps.
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Starting point is 00:56:44 Hey, how's it going? Good man, super quick. Real quick, Adam, I took care of your IOU and went ahead and bought a grip strength though. Good stuff. No worries on that. Good stuff. Right on.
Starting point is 00:56:54 So just having to the question. So alternating workout or phases, every workout versus doing a phase of training every three to four weeks. And I'll use an example with a client that I had. She worked out like every day for something like 20 or 30 years and she loved it. That was her thing to do. She came from the time when 15 to 25 reps was all you were supposed to do as a woman. And so she did that literally every day for something like 20 or 30 years. And she got to the place where her mobility was so bad
Starting point is 00:57:31 and she had so much joint pain, she stopped for something like five or 10 years. So this is where she meets me and we start working together and mobility and all the things and luckily I had listened to Mind Pump for a very long time. So I do what I was doing going into it. And so we got it to where she was kind of pain-free and feeling good.
Starting point is 00:57:51 But what I noticed was is when we transitioned to like a lighter version of MAP Santa Ballack, right? So I never had her go. She was probably 62 when we met. I never had her go to like four reps. Like it was never that heavy. I think six or eight was the heaviest or the lowest we would go. But what I noticed was is if I did more than especially like two weeks in one phase, she would get really, really tight, really stiff and had a hard time recovering. And that was almost any phase. So what I ended up doing,
Starting point is 00:58:25 because my concern for her was that if she regressed back to having a ton of mobility issues, she was gonna quit and never work out again, like she did before. So what I did just through trial and error is on Mondays, it was heavier, like eight repetitions, was the max we would do, and we would go as heavy as she could for eight. And then on Wednesday, we would do more like hypertrophy, like 12 repetitions.
Starting point is 00:58:53 And then on Friday, we would do 15, you know, to 20 repetitions. And then we cycled that way and she seemed to respond really, really well as just from the psychological side. So my question is, is that okay? Would you have done it differently? Would you recommend a different way of doing that? Of course, okay. Or what is it? Of course, it's okay. Yeah, of course. You got, if you felt good doing it, you did the right thing. Yeah. And this, you know, for anybody watching as a trainer or coach, I mean, you have to, you know, there's
Starting point is 00:59:19 general guidelines, but you have to individualize it. You got to follow the individual. I mean, I would have done it. If I were to do anything any differently, it would have looked more like a strength training workout, mobility workout, maybe isometrics. So rather than just phase the reps and the weight, it would be the intention as well. And this is how I use to train my older clients. We would do, if I trained somebody more than once a week,
Starting point is 00:59:45 there would be strength training, and then there'd be mobility, and then there'd be some other kind of maybe isometric or some kind of balance type of workout, and it just seemed to work best with them. And most people over the age of 65, I actually had them strength training twice a week. I had very few that would do any kind of strength training
Starting point is 01:00:04 more than that. And if I did, like I said, I had very few that would do any kind of strength training more than that. And if I did, like I said, I would throw in the mobility or stability or balance or isometrics. But if you did it and it worked, then it was good. Well, not to mention the studies are pretty clear too, that they're pretty equal, right? Somebody who is changing every workout versus somebody who keeps it the same for six weeks or whatever I thought. I mean, it's not going to make that big of a difference as far as their results are concerned. And if she's doing better that way as a coach
Starting point is 01:00:28 and as a trainer, it's a no-brainer. We tend to advocate for the phases for most people. And we've talked about this before is because if you are constantly changing every single workout, it's really tough to see what's working well for you. And so it's like, oh, was it that the eight-wrap day that I did or was it, oh, the day on Friday where we did more of the, you know, super setting that did it for you. And so it's like, oh, was that the eight-wrap day that I did or was it, oh, the day on Friday where we did more
Starting point is 01:00:46 of the, you know, super setting that did it for me. Like, people have a hard time being aware of what's going on on in their workouts as it is, changing up every single day just makes it that much more difficult. But as a coach, if you have a specific situation, like the one you just talked about, you doing a different workout every time is not that big of a deal,
Starting point is 01:01:06 especially if they're seeing results in there and like it. Yeah, the other thing too is the, you know, you're training somebody's mindset and understanding as much as you're training their body. So staying in the same phase for, let's say, two to four weeks, allows the person to really conceptualize and identify with the mindset that each phase style training requires. So heavy lifting, you know, you're not trying to feel the muscle.
Starting point is 01:01:32 You're trying to perfect the movement. You're trying to stay tight. You're trying to maximize the CNS recruitment or activation, you know, with the higher reps. Like, let's feel the muscle. Let's get the pump. Let's see what's happening here with mobility. It's more about challenging ranges of motion with control. So that's another value. But if someone's with you, okay, and you're coaching them, the advantage that they have is that you can help within that session,
Starting point is 01:01:58 help them identify what to look for and what to feel. But, you know, the average person buys one of our programs, they don't have us there to train them. And so what ends up happening when they go, a phase one, two and three work on the same week all the time, especially if they're not super experienced, is they're not able to train the mindset and the understanding, because you know as well as any other coach or trainer,
Starting point is 01:02:19 the way you approach, in the way that a heavy squat feels versus a lighter squat feels and have you approach it, is it completely different? It is not the same. The extremes would be like a bodybuilder versus a power lifter. They're looking and trying to feel something completely different. And so, to stay in that phase for a while allows you to really identify and feel and connect to that particular mindset, because that's just as important as training the body. But again, your client has you to be able to do that for her. So now you did the right thing.
Starting point is 01:02:49 Okay. So then on that note, you said mobility day, something I did was always adamant about, especially if she came in and wasn't feeling your best. We always did 20 minutes of priming before every session. That was always the standard. If after priming she did feel well enough to do strength training, the whole session would be priming, right? Primer Prime Pro, one of those two. And so that's kind of typically how I would structure it. And then what Adam said about, you know, gauging, that was what bothered me was
Starting point is 01:03:20 I couldn't gauge week over week, how she was progressing in her like lifts necessarily like we would traditionally if we were doing three or four weeks in the you know in strength or in hypertrophy or in endurance. But what I did do is she followed a very similar like maybe again like a lighter version of anabolic where the workouts were the same I was tracking them. So like if every Monday was a strength workout or every Wednesday was a high-perchery workout, I was looking at the previous one so that she could know like, hey, this is the numbers we're looking at.
Starting point is 01:03:50 And, you know, we're seeing if you're progressing in weight or if we're more so progressing in your ability to do the movement well without paying, range of motion and things like that. Yeah, to take it a step further, I still do think priming's great. You should probably prime before we work out regardless to some extent, but I do think it's important
Starting point is 01:04:09 long-term to dedicate one of the workouts, especially when someone is reaching the age of, let's say, 55 or older, or somebody younger who's had previous issues, just regardless of how they feel. We are going to do a mobility workout. Today's workout is entirely mobility-based and range-emotion-based and connection-connecting, and we're gonna try to do some dynamic stuff.
Starting point is 01:04:37 And I think it's gonna be regardless. Regardless of how the person feels, because what you don't wanna do is get behind the April, I think a lot of times it's coached and trained, we wait until somebody says something hurts, but by the time something hurts, you're already beyond when you could have had an intervention that would have prevented that. Now you're playing catch-up. So I still think it's important that there's a day where it's just no matter what. I don't care. Okay, you feel great. That's great. Today's mobility.
Starting point is 01:05:04 Okay. Well, then follow up you feel great, that's great, today's mobility. Okay, well then follow up question to that, if that's okay. Sure. So for some of my older clients, now I have them follow maybe a similar model to like map 15, especially the ones who want to work, they like, they love working out, they've done it for a long time,
Starting point is 01:05:18 but you know, an hour every day is just way too much. So they're doing kind of 15, 20 minutes a day, would you still turn like maybe one of those into just mobility? Or since it's only two or three exercises that they're doing, you know, not as big of a deal for them to replace all the exercises? Absolutely. Yeah. Absolutely. And mobility workouts can be longer than, than the allocated 20 minutes because the intensity and the load and the volume
Starting point is 01:05:41 aren't anywhere near the same. But 100%. Yeah. And then I'll very based off of like, if there's anything that needs correction, right? If there's any pain and restriction and, you know, in terms of like frequency and volume with that, that's where you can kind of program and play with that to address very specific things. But overall, in general, I just haven't one day devoted to that is just good, you know, constant sort of upkeep and making sure you're reinforcing these joints of the function and everything else. So that way, you don't get into like problems down the road.
Starting point is 01:06:13 Yeah. Well, then last question in regards to this topic, for a client who comes in and I recognize that this is what they need as the coach. I know that this comes down to just effectively communicating to them. But when they're, they get a few weeks into it and they're like, well, why am I not seeing progress, right? But we've had to like, maybe like what you said, right?
Starting point is 01:06:32 We're changing the workouts based off what they need. We're doing a lot of mobility and stuff. How would you communicate that? Or how do you recommend communicating like, hey, progress isn't going to be like, what it would normally would be, if you were 20 or 30 years old, right, you're 60 or 70. How would you communicate that wrong argument?
Starting point is 01:06:49 Yeah, you're saying it the wrong way. Somebody says to you, why am I not progressing? The last thing you want to do is say it's because you're not young or, you know, here's a deal. Are they really not progressing? Yeah. Are there are those other metrics you can call? Are there any improvements anywhere that you're noticing within that period of time. Sure. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:08 No, like I guess I would see the progress and I wouldn't I wouldn't say like hey, it's because you're not 20 years younger. It's more so them telling me hey, 20 years ago, I would have been able to do this and see progress faster. Yeah. Well, I'm not sure about that, Mrs. Johnson, but you know, here's the things that we have noticed. You did say you're sleeping better. And you don't have as much back pain, or here's what I did. And there's your squatting deeper than you did before.
Starting point is 01:07:31 And it looks like you're not getting a sore. Have you noticed that? Your job is gonna be to help her broaden her focus on the values that you're providing her with your service. It is not to argue the point that she's making and to keep her focus or his focus on that one narrow scope because you will lose that battle, I promise you. Then it'll become a battle of, you know,
Starting point is 01:07:54 well, this or that and okay, patience, but how long and frustrated and oh, there's this other trainer over there that seems to be getting people really sweaty. I think I'm gonna go over there. Yeah, that makes sense. And that goes along with what you guys said the other day There's this other trainer over there that seems to be getting people really sweaty. I think I'm gonna go over there. Yeah. That makes sense. And that goes along with what you guys said
Starting point is 01:08:07 the other day about setting the expectations right up front in the initial session of like, hey, this is what we expect to see. And this is the process. And we'll hit these humps and we're gonna get through it. And this is the journey, what the journey will look like. Yeah, I imagine. That makes sense.
Starting point is 01:08:20 Imagine if you want on a bus ride and the bus driver never told you that he's gonna be driving over gravel and bumps and it's gonna be crazy storms. then you encounter those you're gonna be freaking out But what if you told you ahead of time? Hey look at my oh five we're gonna be hit some big bumps. It's all good I drive over them all the time. Okay, so it's not a problem anymore You have to set the expectation you have to make the prediction predictions all that does is build trust Yeah, awesome. Thank you guys. Appreciate it. You got a man. Thanks. Good to see you again, brother. Take it easy.
Starting point is 01:08:51 Yeah, that's, you know, I, okay, for the coach listening, it is your job to broaden the scope of what the person pays attention to and notices because people will only pay attention to the scale and the mirror and maybe the weight on the bar. That's it. They won't notice anything else unless you help reveal it to them and then to the individual who's not a trainer or a coach, pay attention to everything
Starting point is 01:09:17 because you'll only see what you're looking at. And if all you're doing is looking at the scale, you won't notice all the other amazing things like that Bruce Lee quote, or, you know, he points off to the moon and he says, stop looking at the finger, pointing to the moon, or you're going to miss all that heavenly glory. You have to, you have to identify all of the benefits that you'll work out and die or providing you.
Starting point is 01:09:38 Otherwise, you will lose motivation. It will feel like it's a waste of time. And you will seek out other methods that are inappropriate and that are going to get you not know where to go backwards. Yeah, we, he was alluding to something that we talked about in person, right? So he just left our studio last week. And one of the things that we talked about was the importance of forecasting with your clients.
Starting point is 01:10:00 I think trainers fail at this a lot. Totally. You know, they, they allow the client to come in and say, hey, I want to lose 30 pounds or hey, I want to get ready for this wedding. And then like, okay, we sign them up and it's like on the goal versus you telling them what this journey is going to look like.
Starting point is 01:10:15 And all the things that we're going to be looking for other than just getting you in that dress or other than just losing that 30 pounds. Because it's important if this is going to be a client that's going to stick with you that they understand There's going to be these peaks and valleys and there's other metrics Besides just putting weight on the bar or just losing weight on the scale and you need to help them understand that if you're going to have these clients for a long time Our next color is Austin from Kansas. What up Austin? Awesome. What's happening?
Starting point is 01:10:43 Hey guys It's kind of crazy to talk to you. First off, thanks for everything you guys do. I love the content, especially the dad stuff. I got two young kids at home, so I appreciate to get something guys put out. Good for you, man. So my question is, just read off my email.
Starting point is 01:11:02 It seems to be struggling where I think it's some high-pitched glycemia or low blood sugar during or after my early morning workouts. I'm usually 5'30 in the morning or so. Usually happens when I go like a moderate intensity or a longer duration and just get lightheaded and everything and feel like I'm nauseous. So I have to drink juice or something, get feel better.
Starting point is 01:11:28 Question is, what should I eat or drink before my workouts to avoid feeling that way, to feel my body and my workouts, and could what I eat the night before, the day before, be making a difference? Absolutely. Yeah, so gummy bears are not just kidding. What you eat the day before can make a difference but we got it first off We have to make sure that that's what you're actually feeling because sometimes it's not Oftentimes it's not some form of hypoglycemia. Have you been diagnosed with hypoglycemia or have you ever had your blood sugar levels tested?
Starting point is 01:11:59 Yeah, I've had them tested No issues and never no diabetes or anything like that in my family. Okay. And have you had a nutrient level test? And are you, do you know if you're having enough sodium in your diet? Because both of which can cause some of these interesting symptoms? By the way, the symptoms of hypoglycemia can feel like lightheadedness, nausea, cold sweat. Is it all that? can feel like lightheadedness, nausea, cold sweat. Is it all that? Stomachache, yeah. Yeah, yeah, it's basically like,
Starting point is 01:12:29 I'm, you know, I feel like I'm my pass out or something. Yeah, all the bugs. Okay, and do you know how many calories you're eating a day? And are you getting good sleep? You say I have two kids, so. Yeah, I mean, sleep's probably about seven, seven and a half hours a night, roughly. Okay.
Starting point is 01:12:47 And then calories, I've never done any real close track and you're anything like that. I'd say I'm probably like 2000 or maybe a little more than that. Okay. Could be a stress response from the exercise, but I would get your nutrient levels tested just to make sure that there's nothing. What kind of workout are we sure that there's nothing... What kind of workout are we doing? That's nothing off.
Starting point is 01:13:07 Yeah, what does it work out look like? Good question, Adam. Yeah, so after finding you guys a couple of years ago, I started doing a map's endabolic and basically I kind of adapted it to my own just sort of, you know, still doing like dead listen squats and all this full body workouts two times a week sometimes three times a week But I'm not doing the trigger sessions anymore. Do you have caffeine before your workout? No, I don't take pre workouts Usually just drink drink a big glass of water something while before I go and then drinking water while I'm there
Starting point is 01:13:40 I mean, have you ever noticed like like on a night? Maybe when you like you had like a huge dinner or something different Have you started to connect the dots like your performance is different or you feel different like is It could be as simple as that as you're just kind of low calorie low energy and you're fasted going into these workouts And you just need some calories. Have you have you noticed anything? Have you paid attention to that? so Probably like a week leading up a part-of-road question and since I you know a couple weeks of like since I wrote the question in,
Starting point is 01:14:09 I've tried to really dial in on that and I haven't had it happen to me since. But you know this has happened to me a handful of times throughout the year. I don't, I say I'm not gluten free, I don't eat low-carb normally. I don't, I say I'm not gluten free, I don't eat low-carb normally, but I guess, like, I know, last time I had a big plate of spaghetti worked out, and I was fine this morning. So, you know, I think that could be it, maybe, I don't know. Yeah, definitely could be it, because when I go really, when I used to go low calorie at times for particular reasons, sometimes that would happen to me as well. When I bumped my calories up,
Starting point is 01:14:45 I didn't notice it as much. You can also try sodium. So with your glass of water in the morning, you know, we work with element, element tea. You could try some sodium beforehand. It's got a little bit of magnesium potassium. See if that makes a difference. If it is indeed a hypo glycemic issue, it can be as simple as having a tablespoon of honey or a piece of fruit, nothing to fill you up, but you know, 15 to 20 minutes before you work out, and that could very well make the difference. And you might even throw a little bit of fat on it. So I just have a client that this would happen to, and they legit were hypoglycemic.
Starting point is 01:15:20 We did all the testing, we saw, okay, this is what the deal is. And so she would eat a banana with some peanut butter. And that seemed to solve the issue for her. So those are the things that I would have you look at, but I do think you should have your nutrient levels tested. Make sure you're not low in any key nutrients. Just to kind of rule that out. Otherwise, you know, you're going to be doing the wrong thing and maybe you won't get
Starting point is 01:15:43 the hypoglycemic issue feeling, I should say, but you still have a nutrient deficiency which may cause other things. Do you notice any energy issues otherwise? Any issues with sleep disturbances or libido or anything that would identify or point to some kind of nutrient deficiency? identify or point to some kind of a nutrient deficiency?
Starting point is 01:16:08 No, not you, not that I can think of. Usually after their workout, I forget that you some feeling pretty good throughout the rest of the day. And then, you know, on those days, if I workout and I don't have that issue during the workout, if you'll find the rest of the day too as well. And usually I don't wake up in the middle of the night with sleep, I don't have an issue with that. But there was nothing wrong with drinking juice while you work out. And you don't have to wait till you're done. There's nothing wrong with dripping on that
Starting point is 01:16:36 throughout the workout. I have had clients like that where that's what we would do and it would help with that particular issue. What about eating like creatures of habit before you started? Yeah, that's an old meal, like something light like that. Have you tried eating something light like that?
Starting point is 01:16:49 Like creatures of habit, like an oatmeal type of a breakfast before you go. You slam it pretty easy. No, I haven't. So I typically it's like I wake up and then I roll out of bed, get dressed and you know, head straight to the gym. I'm there within 15 minutes of waking up usually.
Starting point is 01:17:06 Yeah, yeah, I can try. I can try, I can try definitely eating, you know, bam, a peanut butter, sounds good. I mean, it's worth it just to test some of this stuff. I mean, here's a thing too, like we've talked about this before when we talked to people about fasted state working out. A long time ago when we first started talking about it,
Starting point is 01:17:22 Sal would talk about how much he feels better. He feels better in a fastened state when he lives. And I was like, man, I just don't. I don't have the gas. I gas out within 30 minutes of doing it. In fact, I found that I do best. My best workouts are after two meals. I can't just have one meal before a lift.
Starting point is 01:17:41 Two meals I need to really load up on some carbohydrates to have. And as a mean, I can't do the workout or it just means I just don't feel my best. And some people are like that. You may feel that you need just higher carbs, higher calorie before you go into a workout like that. And so that's what I would do if I just test it and see what happens when you either load up
Starting point is 01:18:03 on a good high calorie, high carb dinner and or have like a you know creatures of habit breakfast or a shake or smoothie before or sip on something. All those things are going to help fuel the body. And if you start to notice, man, when I do that, I have good workouts and I'm fine. And then when I don't, I notice a difference. And that's just, I mean, you're learning about your body. Do you notice a difference, then that's just, I mean, you're learning about your body. Do you notice a difference? First thing in the morning, when you get up,
Starting point is 01:18:27 like you're going to the gym, but you're like, oh, okay, I know it's gonna be one of those days where I'm gonna be depleted by the time I'm done, or is this something that you don't even really realize till you start working out? Yeah, it's either the latter, yeah, so just, when I get into it, you know, probably about 20 minutes and, you know,
Starting point is 01:18:44 I start kind of feeling just weak So bring in some food with you at that point I think would make sense. Yeah, I mean just based off what you're saying I guess that I don't know if you have any nutrient deficiencies We don't know what your blood pressure normally is at is that by the way is that higher low blood pressure? Do you have normal blood pressure? No normal blood pressure All that's good. Look based off of all the stuff that you're saying, my guess is that you probably would do well by eating something like, I said, a banana with some peanut butter or drinking some juice during your workout and having a nice dinner beforehand.
Starting point is 01:19:16 And that's should, the fact that you've already noticed an improvement because you've had a good dinner beforehand, that kind of points in the direction that I think just keep playing around with it. That's it, find the right combo. That's right. Okay, cool. All right. All right, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:19:32 You got a man, pick it easy, brother. All right. You know, when we're, you look like you need to some juice right now. I take it. When we're doing that, when we're like investigating and we're asking questions, I always want to fuck with someone like that.
Starting point is 01:19:44 Do you get weird feelings when you see min and speedos It's because we're like we're all firing like inquired ration is like very easy place your body I just want to do it one of these times when we're doing it next time we're gonna do it You know, number two do you wipe front to back? Yes, yeah, like some sideways. Off the wall. You don't apply or just single apply, is it? That's really bad. Just a question for a question. Yeah, yeah. You know, I had to look at this,
Starting point is 01:20:09 I've had this, this has happened with clients that I've trained. And once you narrow it down, because it could be all the other things that I said. And so here's what you don't want to do. I'll never forget I had somebody crash out in a gym that I managed where they passed out. And we had to call an ambulance. And I ran to go get candy to give them, okay?
Starting point is 01:20:29 So I thought it was a little blood sugar. And the paramedics tested them and it was high blood sugar. So high the person lost consciousness. And the paramedic told me, had you given this person candy, you could have very well caused some serious damage. So that, and I was a young, you know, at the time, young manager, and I realized, you got to test. You can't just guess because you could have very well caused some serious damage. So that, and I was a young, you know, at the time, young manager,
Starting point is 01:20:45 and I realized, you got to test. You can't just guess because you could totally do. Yeah, and then, you know, and here, there's this weird thing that happens. When you get really stressed with your workout or stressed in life, it can cause your liver to also dump a bunch of sugar in your bloodstream.
Starting point is 01:21:00 So I had a guy who was pre-diabetic and we would work out and his blood, he had no food or nothing. He'd work out and his blood sugar would be higher at the end. He's like, I don't understand. I thought my blood sugar was supposed to go down. It's because the workout was a little too intense and his liver just dumped all this blood sugar and he would measure high blood sugar. So it's a lot more complicated than, oh, it must be hypoglycemia, you know, type of deal. Best person that's going to know is the person.
Starting point is 01:21:24 That's right. Our next color is Jim from Georgia. Jim was there. By the way, that's the most perfect beard of ever. That is a good beard. I feel like it's a good, Jim. How'd you do that? We got you using Caldari, I don't know. No, not. Oh, bro, we got to get you on that. You look even more perfect. All right. What's going on, man? How can we help you? I'm Tantacol. Well, first of all, I want to say I appreciate the work you guys do. And I'm so glad I found this podcast. I've been listening to you guys since August. And before that, it was just like whatever random YouTube, I would find. It was like, you want bigger arms, I'm like, sure, I want bigger arms. You watch the video. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:07 You spend eight minutes watching that and then the next video plays and the guys like you want bigger arms, don't do this and it's pretty much everything the guy before just said to do. Welcome to YouTube. Godships. So then you get a pre-recorded message from Mike Menter and he sounds like Orson Wells from War of the World to come in. He basically tells you that everybody's full of crap. So you guys are great. All the content is like so easy
Starting point is 01:22:36 to find. It's all in one place and I love it. Love it. Thank you. Thank you. Cool. What you got for us? So basically, I've worked out on and off you know since I was like early teens. Never, never missed a chance to skip leg back. And just I had to incident when I first got my first weights set when I was 14 and you know the old concrete weights coated in the little plastic stuff that you get from like the outlet store. And first thing I wanted to do was see how much I could squat, put the weight on the bar, put it on my back and hit the ground and you, had something fall off, hit me in the head. So didn't really do squats anymore.
Starting point is 01:23:33 So mainly focused on leg presses and stuff, you know, when I had a gym membership or leg extensions. So I got maps and a bottleneck in like, you know, your force to do squats is the first thing you got to do. So I did the preface, you know, lightweight because you know, it's just to do like 12 to 16 reps. So I did like 95 pounds. 155 pounds. Did pretty good and slowly increase that to about 115 over that three-week period got in the phase one did box squats 135 and I said hey, this is safe. I got a seat, you know something bad happening. I'm good So I did 10 reps of that good. So I was like well, we got to do four reps
Starting point is 01:24:25 So I threw on about 155 one one, I know I threw on 185 and like instantly got that, that mental thing where it's like, oh my god, I can't, I can't, I'm not sure I'm going to get this up. So I started wobbling a little bit, almost fell forward, had to drop the weight a little bit. I can't I'm not sure I'm gonna get this up. So I Started wobbling a little bit almost fell forward had to drop the weight a little bit I don't know if I over did it or if I wasn't properly engaged my core or or what but it's when I get deep and Then start to start my ass in I get kind of shaky and I get nervous about, you know, coming up with the weight. So basically my question was, are there other exercises I can do which will translate into being able to squat more?
Starting point is 01:25:20 Because I can bench more than I can squat pretty much. Okay, so let me rephrase your question. That's PTSD. I think you're asking this, my friend. I think what you're asking is, hey guys, can I not squat? No, no, I want to squat. I mean, I'm like,
Starting point is 01:25:36 then the answer is to squat. Here's the deal. You went 50 pounds over. You jumped up, yeah, you leaned. What you did a box squat with and you just started so what you need to do just like anything look anything you learn you have to start slow especially if you feel any fear or apprehension if you start to get here's a deal here's what happens with technique and for actually this happens with anything in a life you're going to meet a pretty girl when you're scared the words don't come
Starting point is 01:26:02 out you don't know what you're saying you just sound like an idiot so same thing When you're scared, the words don't come out. You don't know what you're saying, you just sound like an idiot. So, same thing when you're trying to work out, when that fear sets in, you look like an idiot. So, in other words, go light, perfect the technique, practice the exercise, inch your way up. There would have been nothing wrong with you doing the 135 for 10 reps in the back squat, and then doing 135 for four reps in the full squat, which is what you did and then leaving it that. Well, listen, I know you've only recently kind of found us and one of the things that we talk about a lot is just practicing a movement. It's just getting in the, going in the gym and practicing a movement and we sometimes,
Starting point is 01:26:41 especially guys, we overthink this, the weight on the bar and we have to keep putting more weight on the bar and put more weight on the bar. The goal is to do as little as possible to elicit the most amount of change. If you hadn't been squatting for years and you'd squatted 50 pounds on your back and decided that I bet you'd see change results and improvement. So there's no reason for you to hop all the way up there other than the ego that us men have. You know, you're that's the things you just jump right to your potential. Your potential is massive, but you know, there's a real methodical way to get there. And we have
Starting point is 01:27:15 to stick with that for now. We have to stick with that playbook and run it. And to be able to acclimate to weight and get that bracing technique down. And so to be able to get under the bar, like you start increasing the weight, I want you to sit there and hold it, feel it, and take that moment to really like brace and feel like you're under control, rack the weight again, and get back to it another time and like ramp your way up. It's a very methodical, progressive way to approach it. I'll give you one piece of advice that's gonna get you the best results
Starting point is 01:27:48 across the board for the next year, okay? I want you to treat every exercise like it's a skill you're trying to learn. That's it. So when you go to the gym and you do the exercise and the program says four reps or 10 reps, pick a weight that allows you to practice the exercise to perfect the skill.
Starting point is 01:28:07 Don't pick a weight that's gonna challenge the hell out of you. Practice the skill of the exercise over the next year. Number one, you won't get hurt doing that or very, very, very low likelihood of getting hurt. And number two, you're gonna build muscle burn body fat and improve significantly. After that year is up and you feel like, man, I got the skill of these lifts,
Starting point is 01:28:27 like I got it, I know I could do it. Then you can start playing with challenging yourself. But you're not compromising results, that's the point I want to make. Because a lot of times people think, well, okay, well, I practice the skill, but that means I'm not going to get results for a full year. No, you will get results the entire time,
Starting point is 01:28:41 if you do what I'm saying. So every single exercise is a skill. And like any skill, the better you are at the skill, the more you're gonna get out of it. So what I did, I completed phase one and fixed moving the phase two. What I did was I lowered the weight back to 135, and when I went down, I did, I think Adam mentioned this,
Starting point is 01:29:01 and some of you guys all said this, controlling the tempo. Yeah, so I would go down and I would try to hold that perfect, you know, like a good solid. One to two seconds and then, love how to explode back up. Love that, love that. That's great.
Starting point is 01:29:17 That's amazing. That's how you should have started. I mean, then what your mindset of going into something like that a lift that you hadn't been doing for a very, very long time is back to Salis Point. It's just perfect to move it. And put a weight on that's way lower than what you think you can do.
Starting point is 01:29:31 And if it's so easy, then just slow it down. Slow it down and pause. Like Justin was saying, pause, hold it. Literally, pressure, yeah. Just, you wanna get so good at the movement. You can do it in your sleep. You don't gotta think about it. It's become that easy for you.
Starting point is 01:29:46 And so approach, you're lifting like that. Yeah. Think about how much more you can grip the bar with your hands, which then translates to more support with your upper back, which then, you know, bracing that core and really, you know, digging into all the little nuances and feel your way through that. So you feel supported and that's going to all come back to the confidence you built. And imagine Justin spotting you naked. This always helps me get out of the hole for some reason.
Starting point is 01:30:14 When I think about Justin behind me naked, helping me out of that squad, I get out of that hole really easy. You don't want to be in that hole. I'm telling you. That's way too much of a visual there. That's when you get to too much of a visual there. That's when you get to the bottom of the squad, Justin. You and Douglas, where are you going to go?
Starting point is 01:30:29 You guys are terrible. So, Jim, is that the only program you have? Yeah, I want to actually give you symmetry, because I think you'll benefit from symmetry, I'll just say. Do you have the program? I just picked up map symmetry of Cyber Monday. Oh, good. You're set then.
Starting point is 01:30:42 Are you in our forum? No. All right, we'll put you in our forum, Jim. Keep keep this whole year. I want you to kind of give us updates. Okay. Okay. Sounds good. Thanks for calling in, brother. Appreciate it. I appreciate you. You got it. So I, okay. I'm going to tell a story that this reminds me of. So Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu is super popular. Lots of people do it now. Right.
Starting point is 01:31:04 And the originators of Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, you know, widely understood to be the Gracie family. Okay, I'll never forget this. Uh, Hixing, this is years ago. So Hixing Gracie's, uh, son, Cron, went into like a world championship Jiu-Jitsu tournament and proceeded to submit every person. This is like black bell top level best ever. And he was proceeded to submit every opponent with a mounted cross choke. Now let me explain what that is. That is one of the first submissions you learn in Jujitsu. It is basic. They teach you how
Starting point is 01:31:39 to defend it. It is, but here's here's why he was able to do that. And the graces are exceptional at this. They'll practice a basic technique slow and perfect and then a little faster and then perfect. They'll practice it so much they get so good at it. So proficient that you know what they're going to do because each person you went against new. Oh, he's going to do that and they couldn't stop it. Yeah. This is the value of practicing the fundamentals and getting good at them. By the way, I'm sure you've heard that in a lot of other sports where you master the fundamentals. So you wanna do your spin, backhanded pass
Starting point is 01:32:15 or whatever, practice the fundamentals, get perfect at them, and then watch your performance and it's true with strength training as well. Our next color is Johnny from Scotland. Johnny, what's happening? How can we help you? Eddie, it is good. Pretty good.
Starting point is 01:32:29 What's happening? Yeah, so just get the usual thanks there. You guys are probably sick of it now, but thank you for all the content that you guys do and all the guys behind the scenes. A guy from a work actually got me on to you guys about a year ago. I remember listening to the first episode and hearing Adam talking about taking his son to the cinema and I was like, I thought this was health and fitness. The more I listened to it, I got in all the dad chat, I've got a young kid myself so it was great, I ended up pushing away
Starting point is 01:33:02 the other health and fitness podcast I was listening to, so yeah thanks guys. Thank you. So yeah, I'll just read my email out, just go through a bit of the the added info and then ask my question at the end. So 32 years old, 5 foot 10, about 110 kilos or 242 pounds with around 30 to 35% body fat according to my digital scale and my smartwatch I've been listening on and off since 2014 but with no real structure doing various sports before taking a bit more serious in 2021 when I started doing a strength program through my gym so I managed to get my numbers up between 2021, 2222, which I assume was due to beginner gains because I didn't train properly and a big increase in calories. I never counted them, I just thought more food
Starting point is 01:33:57 equals more strength. So I'm paying the price of that now, I suppose. So then got on to you guys, got anabolic, started training through that and strength went up even further, then moved on to power list because we had an in-house power list in competition. So I thought I would go into that but I ended up getting ill with some gut issues. So I was out of training for about five, six weeks and when it went back strength, it just completely depleted as expected. So I started working on my calories, it was on 2,300 to see what my weight would do, didn't really move. I then went on to the macro calculator you guys have and it suggested 2,150. So I've done that but it wasn't for long end, I've gone back to 2,300 thinking if I just get more protein I might see something happen,
Starting point is 01:35:01 especially where I will lift in, I wanted to get my strength back. see something happen, especially with, will lift in, I wanted to get my strength back. But the way it doesn't seem to move, it's hard to tell from getting stronger because, you know, I'm trying to regain the strength that I had before. So I'm curious just to know that there's a guy at my work who's about 65 kilo and eating 3,500 calories for maintenance and I'm a bigger guy and I'm maintaining it at 2,300 so my question is trying busting metabolism with reverse dieting or as it just you know you're going to have to reduce those calories to lose some body fat. Well, what do we know about the gut? What's going on? Did you fix your gut issue, by the way? Did you figure that out? So I ended up getting a bug to me and my wife got like food poisoning.
Starting point is 01:35:52 And it seemed to cling to me and knocked everything. We've gotten checked for like celiac, like gluten intolerance. That came back negative. I done intolerance tests and found that there was a wheat rice coconut on peas. So I eliminated that for four weeks. It got better, but it's not 100% retook the intolerance test. Rice is back. It says that it could cause issues, but wheat is definitely out. Okay, you might have some leakyaky gut syndrome or inflammation that needs to get addressed, but that I would work on with a functional medicine practitioner.
Starting point is 01:36:32 I do things one. Don't ever compare your calories to somebody else because there's a lot we don't understand about the metabolism. There really is. I mean, you just, you know, you just call it out. It's like a skinny, small dude over there, big dude over there, small dude eats way more calories. What the hell's going on? We don't quite know. So that's a big mistake. And what it'll do is it'll, it'll, it'll,
Starting point is 01:36:57 comparing yourself to someone else, it's going to make what works for your body seem strange. In reality, it's just, it's an individual variance. Second thing is your body fat test on the, on the electronic competing scale says 30%. You don't look like your 30% body fat, unless you have, unless you stored all in your midsection and lower body, you look maybe in the 20s at the most. So I would get a body fat test
Starting point is 01:37:20 that might be a little bit more accurate. I mean, you look like you have a lot of muscle on your frame. Is, is that, definitely caught it more than, man. No mid-section. Okay, okay. Okay, so look, here's what I would have you do. You can reverse diet. You can definitely reverse diet.
Starting point is 01:37:37 Or you could just try to hit your target body weight and protein and avoid heavily processed foods and then see where your body weight lands. And that's it. I would literally just, you know and then see where your body weight lands. And that's it. I would literally just, you know, what's your target body weight? Where would you like to go? I never really thought about what weight I wanted to come down to.
Starting point is 01:37:55 It was more just to get into a healthy body fat percentage. The goal is to just be healthy. I'm not bothered, even if I wait the same way, but I was healthy, I would be happy. What's your body weight again, 240 pounds, you said? Yeah, 242 pounds, I think I converted it to. Okay, so I say, you could start by hitting about 215 to 220 grams of protein a day, from whole natural foods,
Starting point is 01:38:23 avoid heavily processed foods and just start there. And just see what happens. How do you feel at the 21 to 2400 calories? Do you feel like you're really restricting to be at that number? Does that feel comfortable for you? How do you feel about that amount of calories besides comparing yourself to somebody else? Yeah. of somebody else. Yeah, I mean the 300, 200, 400 is fine. I'm kind of like, I know what
Starting point is 01:38:52 I'm going to eat, I plan what I'm going to eat for the week. So I can calculate, you know, if I eat this, is that going to screw up how much protein I'm going to get for that day? I ever ends kind of concentrating on making sure I have my protein, but then my calories and I never now has been kind of fall in place. Yeah, yeah. And in terms of process stuff, because for four weeks I couldn't eat wheat, anything with wheat or rice.
Starting point is 01:39:16 And I remember then process kind of has all that stuff and it ended really so. You know, Johnny, I just saw a study where they took groups of people cross over study and they had one group eat a high protein diet, the other group eat a low protein diet, and the high protein diet built more muscle, burn more body fat, but here's the weird part. The high protein diet was 300 calories higher than the low protein diet. There seems to be a fat burning effect along with a muscle building effect from protein.
Starting point is 01:39:47 I think if you just hit those targets and protein from whole natural foods, avoid heavily process foods and just listen to your body. Don't stuff yourself. Don't starve yourself. Just see it until you feel about 75, 80% full as they say in Japan and see how you feel. And then watch what happens. And my guess is you'll see a slow leaning out through that and you shouldn't lose or notice any strength losses by following that. That's the reason why I asked how he felt around those calories.
Starting point is 01:40:16 I mean, if you feel pretty good and you don't feel like you're really restricting to be there, you don't feel like you're overstuffing, you're probably at a really good place for how you move and your your size. So I would stick right with it. And also, something you said earlier that we can all get caught up in, right? And I'm guilty of this is comparing what you were lifting, you know, before like every time I, I, you know, fall off of my consistency and then I go back in the gym,
Starting point is 01:40:45 I think of it as starting at square one of them. I cannot hold on to the numbers I was hitting when I was the most consistent. Otherwise, you'll, that'll get discouraging. Like, oh man, this is, I'm still, I'm still so weak, but yeah, you could be progressing in many ways. Like you could be absolutely building muscle and healing your gut and all these positive metrics
Starting point is 01:41:05 you, but yet you're hung up on the, oh my god, I'm so much weaker than what I was before. You got to kind of throw that out the window and just be like, listen, I'm trying to find the perfect balance for me, be consistent. And the truth is, if you're doing it perfect, it will be this real slow gradual process of losing a little bit of body fat, building a little bit of muscle. I'm going to give you another metric instead of the little bit of body fat, building a little bit of muscle. I'm gonna give you another metric instead of the scale and your body fat percentage based off the scale or your smart watch.
Starting point is 01:41:31 Use a tape measure and measure around your waist, where your belly button is. First thing in the morning, relaxed, and then measure that. If that's going down, you say you store most of it in your belly, like a lot of men do. If that's starting to go down, you're moving, everything's going great. You're doing good.
Starting point is 01:41:49 Go. Okay. Yeah. Sounds good. You got it, man. And you're following MAP's endabolic right now? Yeah. I'm kind of hanging about in the strength phase because I enjoy that one the most and I work off short so it's going to be
Starting point is 01:42:07 hard to train in a gym in an oil rig, trying to lift heavy, so I'm trying to wait until the go there to move into phase two where you know it's I'm going to be lifting weights that they're likely going to have or not going to go through the floor or anything like that. Do you have anything that helps you with mobility like Prime Pro? Or suspension trainer with him, with him going on the rig like that. I don't know, are you allowed to work out on the oil rig? Yeah, there's a gym, the one that I'm going to is quite small gym. So it's usually pretty cramped.
Starting point is 01:42:38 Oh. So it's good to get in and get out. I've got maps prime suspension. Yeah, I'm a suspension rubber band. Yeah, I'm going to send you a map suspension, because then that'll give you some suspension trainer exercises you could do while you're on the rig. Cool. Thank you very much.
Starting point is 01:42:54 You got it, man. Thanks for calling in, huh? Yeah, cheers guys. Take it easy. Take it easy. I always picture like a oil rig. You're like you watch movies. He looks like he will be.
Starting point is 01:43:04 Yeah. I feel like it's the most manly job in the world. I don't know what the positions are all I know is I see the videos with the you know water's when they're like It's like chains and shit. Some of his arms almost getting sucked in yeah Yeah, yeah, so it's up there with one of the more dangerous jobs Isn't it like that and crab fisherman and like? Yeah, it's pretty crazy. No for sure. Yeah, you know You know, it's funny for most got for most men. Yeah, you know, you know, it's funny for most men. This is probably more accurate for men than it is for women.
Starting point is 01:43:28 For most men, a simple, simple waste circumference measurement is gonna be one of the most accurate. That's what Doug does, right? That's your good, good, good, good, good. That's what I got it from. Yeah, the scale is BS. Total BS. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:43:43 So that's really the only accurate thing I got. The scale's taking you. Most dudes don't want's really the only accurate thing. The scales fake news. Most dudes don't want to lose weight. I mean, I don't know. Maybe I'm normally, but I don't want to lose weight. No, you want to get leaner. Yeah, I was leaner and keep my weight. That's it.
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