Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 2238: How to Train to Perform a Muscle-Up, Why Government Protein Recommendations are Inadequate, the Value of Sports Massage & More

Episode Date: December 29, 2023

In this episode of Quah (Q & A), Sal, Adam & Justin answer four Pump Head questions drawn from last Sunday’s Quah post on the @mindpumpmedia Instagram page.  Mind Pump Fit Tip: DON’T avoid all the different types of reps because of some silly study! They ALL have value and can build muscle. (1:55) When the genetic anomaly meets the hardest worker in the room. (13:35) Would you rather be dumb or brilliant? (23:15) Tesla propaganda. (27:13) When company initiatives are about race rather than merit. (29:35) The education disruption is here! (38:27) Legacy media and social media are controlling you. (41:36) Meat dealing Butcher Box. (49:30) Will Sal get a vasectomy? (55:20) Shout out to BallerBusters! (59:02) #Quah question #1 - I’d like to be able to do a muscle up. What should I do to get to that point? (1:01:26) #Quah question #2 - The recommended daily allowance for protein is about .8 grams per KG of body weight per day (about 0.36 grams per pound of body weight) for optimum health. Tell us why they are wrong. (1:08:28) #Quah question #3 - What can be a daily routine for neck and back slouching? (1:14:51) #Quah question #4 - If you are regularly active, do you think sports massage is important? (1:18:46) Related Links/Products Mentioned Visit Butcher Box for this month’s exclusive Mind Pump offer! Personal Trainer 3-Day Training – Starting Jan. 15, 2024 December Promotion: MAPS Old Time Strength | MAPS OCR 50% off! ** Code DECEMBER50 at checkout ** Why You Need to Mix Rep Ranges After Periods of Training - Mind Pump Watch Coach Prime - Season 2 | Prime Video    Futurism - Facebook Leaked IBM Training Shows Unhealthy Obsession with Demonizing White People: Report Elon Musk is funding a new school planning to open in Austin, Texas "Eat Less, Move More" Approach Doesn't Actually Work for Weight Loss, New Study Finds Mark Zuckerberg's $100M Hawaii compound has huge underground Visit Stress Guardian by biOptimizers for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! The Myth of Optimal Protein Intake – Mind Pump Blog Why do we Need Protein? – Mind Pump Blog Mind Pump #1490: How To Improve Your Posture Band Pull Aparts Mobility Session Do You Have Back Or Shoulder Pain? YOU NEED TO TRY THIS! | Mind Pump Mind Pump Podcast – YouTube Mind Pump Free Resources People Mentioned Chris Bumstead (@cbum) Instagram Jordan B. Peterson (@JordanBPeterson) Twitter Elon Musk (@ElonMusk) Twitter Vivek Ramaswamy (@vivekgramaswamy) Twitter BallerBusters (@ballerbusters) Instagram Layne Norton, Ph.D. (@biolayne) Instagram Andy Galpin (@drandygalpin) Instagram

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December 50 for that discount. All right, here comes a show. When you see studies that say things like the stretched portion of a rep builds the most muscle or the negative portion of a rep builds the most muscle or this particular rep range has been shown to build the most muscle or the negative portion of a rep builds the most muscle or this particular rep range has been shown to build the most muscle you're not hearing the whole story here's the whole story the other rep ranges the other portions of the rep all that other stuff it also builds muscle don't avoid all the other stuff because you saw some silly studies saying that one thing was a

little better than the other. In fact, all of the things that I mentioned have value and if you understand that you can apply them appropriately and get the most results. I'm doing this because of that. Have you seen the posts that are going around on half reps? Half reps. Yeah, half reps. I saw that somebody was posting that video of what's his name, Sam Solic or whatever, because

he has a video of him doing partial reps. Yeah, and like you'll see bodybuilders do this sometimes and stuff like that. So, so I'll talk about the study. So they'll compare the ranges of a rep range. So let's say I'm doing a curl, right? There's the stretch portion where the the bicep is fully lengthened and the mid-range and then fully contracted. And they'll compare the effect of training in those different rep ranges and find which one builds the most muscle. And what they find is the stretch portion builds the most muscle. And then they'll do studies where they say, okay, this group over here for 16 weeks only trains in the stretch portion.

And then this group over here trains in let's say a full range of motion. And in that short 16 week period, they may show a little bit more muscle growth in that stretch period. And so now you've got all these fitness people on social media advocating for these kind of half reps and partial reps, saying like this will maximize gains and stuff like that.

And it annoys me because that's totally discounted the full understanding of what the rep range does of training and of strength training. Like, for example, this nobody talks about, the strength that you build within a particular rep, you know, within a particular range of motion, most of the strength you gain is within the range of motion that you train. strength you gain is within the range of motion that you train. So what happens if you train in all these half reps all the time, you're going to develop, even if you built the same amount of muscle, you're not going to...

You're not going to... This function. 100% And we've seen this, by the way. We've shot videos for workout programs where we've had like bodybuilders come in or physique competitors come in demonstrating the exercises with lightweight. This is all demonstration. And they can't even lock out an overhead press

because they're so dysfunctional that they have no strength. Put a dumbbell behind their head for trisof extension. Yeah, that's where the whole bodybuilder meet head muscle bound. It's not only that, it's the part that I think is far more important

that none of these talk about is that novelty trumps all of this. So if you took somebody who always trained in the shortened range of motion or in the stretch position and you all of a sudden put them for that same person, right? They've been six months, they all they did, they built all this muscle and then now it's starting to plateau because the body's adaptable and then you switch them over into full range of motion and then you compare to their training in six the next six months in the Stretch position and you'll see that the the novel stimulus is gonna build more muscle So the thing that I hate about all these studies that talk about these type of specifics

Rep ranges rest periods stretch, full range of all of it, is that, you know, at one point, you start to see diminishing returns. The body is this adaptation machine. So once you send the signal to get strong in this particular range of motion, or this particular weight, or this particular amount of repetitions, or this particular amount of rest periods, then the body adapts. And then now, the best thing to continue to build muscle is something different. And that thing different could be any of those things I just listed off. 16 week studies on strength training or so. It's just terrible.

It just seems like these camps, they always want these studies to come out to justify their favorite and their way, their methodology, exclusively. And so that way, they can come at the other methods out there and then create these turf wars. And it's just so stupid. All of it produces to your point earlier, each one of those methods have a valid way of building muscle. And that's what we should be interested in.

Well, it feeds into the marketing cycle, right? Doug always talks about this, right? There's like a list of like the top like five titles for books and stuff like that, like the five secrets or whatever that. It's like, it feeds into, it's like this hidden secret. Like, oh, you've been doing full range of motion this whole time? Guess what? No one. No one. You've just studied the show's partial reps is better for this. It's like, it's because of that, because people scrolling or searching things on YouTube or whatever, and they come across something

that is counterintuitive and it seems, and then they have a study now that they can attach to it. Even worse, they try, it's novel, oh my God, I'm convinced. Right, well, and that's what happened. So, and this is what happened to me as a teenager in early 20s, is I would read one of these studies or read one of these articles that references the study in a muscle magazine. And now I would adopt it. And I would be married to it.

It would be like, that's what I was doing for the next year. On to the sunset. Yeah. Because look at this guy's biceps. And so it became super clear that you plateaued. Yeah, I went through that cycle. I mean, so many times, I was convinced high volume training was a way to train. Then I was convinced super low volume intensity, high intensity. Then I was convinced partial reps was the way to go. Then I was convinced that the research exercises, then it was low reps, then it

was high reps. Then it was like short rest periods and it was long rest go. Then I was convinced that there were certain exercises, then it was low reps, then it was high reps, then it was like short rest periods, and it was long rest periods. So I did that same exact trajectory, and then after I figured it out that, oh, that's a novel, then I went all novelty every workout. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I'm like,

I'm too extreme. Everything different. I literally feel like I covered the entire spectrum. It's like name your philosophy of training and I've adopted it and married it for too long. And I think that's the lesson now that where I think I've come to as far as like how I program for myself or for somebody else is that there you do want to stick in a modality, a range of motion, a rest period, range of motion, a rest period, you know, reps for a short period of time so that you send a novel stimulus to the body to force it to adapt and grow and build, but not too long

that you start to see diminishing returns. And then in that time frame, based off all the studies, it's going to land somewhere between three to six weeks for most people. And so whatever you decide is you're gonna be your, whether it's partial reps, full range, whether it be whatever rep range we're talking about, I want to stick to that and be consistent with it for three to six weeks so I can measure how well it's working for my body and see when it starts to slow down. And then I want to get out of that before week six and move into a new way of training so I can continue to see those things.

Now I will add though, if you're within your first year of exercise, I don't think you should train, you don't need partial reps. That's that you don't need to, even it's just that you're gonna end up creating more dysfunction. If you haven't been working out consistently for a year and you strengthen a shortened range of motion,

you will increase instability outside of that. That's a good point because this is it, okay, we, even though I threw it in the category of rest periods, reps, and things, it doesn't even come close to comparing to those things. You can manipulate, you can manipulate exercise selection, rep range, rest period in your first five years, never mess with, never touch short and range emotion, never touch failure training, never touch cluster setting, never test all these, these, you know, obscure ways of stimulating

the muscle and see tremendous and consistent results. Yep. So I agree. Yeah. It's a dangerous way to train and can cause a lot of injury. If you get really, really strong in a particular portion of the range of motion, little by little, your body will try to keep you in that range of motion and keep you outside of the range of motion where there's a huge discrepancy because it'll pick up on instability. And so your movement patterns will change, you'll get that muscle bound look or that dysfunctional type of look. And then this is where people

who are really strong hurt themselves doing silly things. Like, oh, I could work out, I could lift so much weight in the gym. Well, how'd you hurt your shoulder? I threw a frisbee at the park. Well, yeah. You know, I turned around and grabbed something in the gym. Well, how'd you hurt your shoulder? I threw a frisbee at the park. Well, yeah. You know, I turned around and grabbed something in the car, and I threw out my back. That's the real thing, you have that strength and shorter ranges of motion. Then you go to do something with acceleration

that extends it puts a bunch of force, you know, into those weak links in that range of motion and it's boom, you're susceptible to injury. Yeah, that whole philosophy too. Bodybuilding has a lot of benefits and value. There's a lot that you can learn from the way that bodybuilders train that apply to the average person. But it is an extreme endeavor and it is entirely focused on how the person looks. So there's a lot of also detriment to that. And one of them is the willingness to compromise, not just physical health, but movement and stability and injury for the sake of just looking in a particular way. And for most people, that's not a worthy trade.

Okay, so you got 2% more muscular, and I'll make the argument that wouldn't even happen for the average person. This is what you did, 2%, you know, you look 2% better, but now you're 15% less stable. That's not a worthy trade. You don't wanna walk around with pain or whatever. And I've seen extreme cases where bodybuilders

in the pursuit of a smaller waste will even wear a weight belt throughout every workout throughout the whole day or even more extreme will wear something like a squeam. Like a squeam or a, like almost like a corset throughout the day, purposefully atrophing and weakening their core muscles to get a smaller waste. That's still a thing too, by the way. So, weird to me.

Yeah, just the back problems are gonna face later on. I thought this was part of building. You know what, even if none of that stuff was true, what should it is true, you still look stupid as fuck. I know, can we just talk about that? Yeah, just keep it there, man. Really? You're wearing a corset, bro.

Yeah. Desert to get punched in the face, right? Yeah, just. So ridiculous when I saw that on all my peers, I'm like, man, you guys, we're there. We're there, we're in the gym. All the time. All the face. Yeah. Yeah. So ridiculous when I saw that on my peers, I'm like, man, you guys, were they wearing the gym? All the time. All the time.

Yeah. Was it outside? And they were outside, there's a plastic trophy. That bad, that bad, you're gonna wear a woman's corset all day long to shrink your waist. It's embarrassing.

So silly. Well, were they wearing outside their shirts? Like, it show it in this place? Or would it be under the shirt? No, it would be under. Well, I mean, I think I've seen both actually uh oh at least wear the new shirt most guys most guys would wear it under the shirt I mean it was and most guys definitely would wear it

while they were training and then some would wear it even like throughout the day so you saw both like I've seen it I've seen it done every dumb way you can possibly do it and I've heard every justification of why they're doing it and it's like it doesn't matter to me. I don't care. I don't care if it won you a show. You still look ridiculous. And it's a dumb idea, you know what I'm saying?

So it's crazy that way. Think I have a discount from Kim Kardashian's website. She was selling them too. Such a, I mean, can't imagine how many kids try and do that and all in pursuit of this, you know, taking first place in Minsvizika bodybuilding. You see what the pay was for Chris Bumstead, like one of the most famous bodybuilders in the world right now?

Do you even cover his food probably? 50 grand. Yeah, yeah, that didn't even cover hormones for the year. No, wait, not even close. So it's like, for that, like, there's people on social media are even competing and that would make way more money because they use social media.

Yeah. That whole thing adds very- Yeah, yeah. And I'll be, look, and it'd be full of disclosure, I've done a lot of stupid things in pursuit of changing how I look, all tied to body image stuff, and I've done a lot of stupid things,

but I've never purposely made myself weaker to look better. That didn't never make sense to me. I don't understand that. Like I wouldn't purposefully make... I mean, that's the only thing. That's the only thing that's liked that, right? I can't think of another situation where... If bodybuilders could make their bones

and join smaller to look better, they would. Oh, you know that, remember that surgery that's getting popular now with the lengthening, it's a cutaller. Oh my God, have you seen that? Yeah, yeah. I mean, I've heard about it like, you know what they do? They do, and that's their kids, right?

You know what they do? Parents do it, that's kids? Yeah. No, what? Yeah, there's like lengthening surgeries and all kinds of invasive stuff now to make sure kids are told. I understand if there's like a dysfunction or medical issue.

Oh, yeah, well that's, but you know, I don't know, you're sending weird, it's an interesting message you're sending your kid. It's like, I don't know. They literally will saw the femur in half. And they'll, they're the, they were the tibia, I thought they were doing the tibia. Oh, sorry, the tibia, they separate it just slightly

and support it with like screws. Okay. And so the separation causes bone to grow in between and then they do it again and again. And again, so you constantly go in and they'll stretch it out and allow and so yeah, it's wild. Yeah, because- What do we find out it makes them legs stronger though

for doing that? I mean, that's kind of like it. Well, when the bone heals, it should be strong. And it's kind of interesting. What do you think of it like that? You might get weird proportions though. You see someone and you're like, why is your shin so long?

Why is your shin lumpy? That's extreme. I mean, it would look really weird if you already had long shin. If you had long shins and you were short, it would already look odd. So then lengthen it even more. Some athletes, some high level athletes are built,

you know, genetically in a way that makes them better at their particular sport. What does that say right there? Surgical osteomy, osteomy, breaks on the femur. No, it is the femur and or tibia. Or endotibia. Yeah, and magnetically, I've seen the tibia one. I've never seen the femur one.

That's crazy. God, that's a big bone to break purposefully and do. Oh, yeah, that's gonna be a painful process. Yeah, so some high level athletes obviously work out hard, you know, train hard to the whole thing, but they also are genetically built in a way that's advantageous for that sport. So you see this like, I don't remember what they call it.

There's a term for it, but you'll see swimmers will look a particular way, runners will look a particular way or whatever. High, high level distance runners, like the best of the best. If you ever see one in person, it looks like crickets. They have these small upper bodies, like short and these long ass legs for their height. And you could see it. I mean, you see it, you see it in every sport.

I mean, and then swimmers are the opposite. Why, why Leonard is an example of this, um, his, uh, length of his arms. He's already like a tall guy, all basketball players here, or tall, but for his, his arm length is abnormally long and his, his finger length and hands are giant. That's what they call the claw. And he make, he's, if not the best defender in the NBA. And it, I mean, if you imagine if you got an additional foot,

wider than everybody else, you close those passing lanes and you have bigger hands, you can grab a hole the ball and palm it easier. And so, and then of course, I mean, it doesn't take away from how disciplined he's been to become great. You add those, I mean, that's what we see. That's why I think sports are so fascinating to watch

is because it's, it's when the two of those merge, right? When you have this genetic anomaly meets the hardest worker in the room. And then you get a superstar. I mean, that's literally what it is. And there's nothing that the average person could ever do. They're using their genetic gifts and like training it

instead of, yeah, like, that's... My favorite sport for that to watch is football because it's got the most genetically diverse... Yeah, and my opinion is favorite sport for that to watch is football because it's got the most genetically diverse Yeah, and my opinions on the field's a position. Oh, yeah, like like alignment looks so different from a wide receiver You know, for example like they don't look like they're on the same playing the same sport I just saw a picture of a Lime from Texas high school like a high school player He looked literally like he was in that if He felt like just manhandling another,

and they're just like, you know, every now and then, you'll get like somebody that young that just, they're just like destined for it. Now, what I think is really interesting about that point, about football, is that not only do you have these very specific, like body types and genetic anomalies and freak athletes, but even though they're so different,

like comparing a Lyman to a wide receiver quarterback, that Lyman is still a better wide receiver than I would be. You know what I'm saying? It's like that's how gifted and talented. They're still faster than anybody. That's right, hung out in my cleats, dude. That's the part that is so crazy.

I was at a combine, I watched this dude that was like, I don't know, he was probably like six, seven in like 300 something pounds. Ran of 40 in like four, five, four, six. Wow. I was like, That's like getting hit by a car, dude. I'm done, dude.

That's the highest move. You can come out of there. Yes, yeah, that's him. Yeah. Wow. Look at how much it's just stupid. That doesn't look right. He can eat him. The guy he's handling right now is six foot three 200 pounds.

Wow. And the offense alignment that's doing, that's handling him is six eight 360 pounds. That's a high school kid. My God, 360 pounds, six eight. Dude, that's a big boy he's throwing right now. He is destined for greatness. You know what's funny?

What a double edged sword. Either a, like what you said Justin, could be destined for greatness. You know what's funny? What a double-edged sword. Either A, like what you said, Justin, could be destined for greatness or B, it could make you so lazy and sports athletic, right? Cause like, at that size, up until a certain point, he didn't have to try it. Well, I laughed because my roommate was like that. I was just a talk shit.

Because, you know, I couldn't get him to go to the workouts with me. And like, that was, because he was so strong on that stuff. Yeah, I'm just like pulling them in, but he just, because he didn't need to. He just shows up and he would literally just put one hand on somebody and they go to the ground. Are you still fresh, Rick? Are you watching Coach Prime on Amazon right now? Andrew, are you watching it? Oh, man, you guys are missing out.

Yeah, so good, because they, they followed him. They followed him all from the, uh, before it Colorado, right when he was, I can't remember the name of the name, but I'm not sure if I was right, but I was, I was, I was, are missing out. Yeah, so good. Because they, they followed him. They followed him all from the, before at Colorado, right, when he was, I can't remember the name of the prep school that he was at before, it's slipping me. But that was season one, season two now is Colorado.

Okay. So I think it's, I watched the season one where he was. Yeah, season two now where he's doing Colorado and you're watching him change that entire organization. It's really, really great. It's great to I mean, you know, it's interesting is because I have a buddy who like hates him and it's like Deon Sanders has created this. There is nothing in the middle. You either are super in love with what he's doing and like and like everything about what's going on or you absolutely like guaranteed I bring this up on the show right now.

There's going to be comments. Yeah. Lots of hate. Lots of love. Like, there's no middle ground for this guy. It's like you, you either really, really appreciate and love everything he's doing or he completely despise it and you, you see like all the other kids, you see like my buddy who's a teacher, his reason for hating him and stuff like that is what he thinks is he's going

to destroy this Colorado program and he's going to go basically go in there do his thing selfishly for him and then he'll be out and then when he's out it'll be decimated and all these kids will be screwed and it's like this it's like this selfish movies playing that he's doing where a lot of other people believe it's the opposite he's going to go in there and he's going to shift the culture and even if he does leave, they're gonna have success in his wake, not the opposite. So it's interesting. You know, it's crazy about the conversation

we're having that led to that was, because I've experienced personally, you have two Justin, maybe you have two Adam, you've told some stories where you know how good you are in comparison to other good people and then you go up against someone who's world class. Like I did that in in judo and jiu jitsu. Like I was I knew how I felt against the black belt. And there were some that I could handle myself pretty well with. And some of that obviously could handle me because I never got to that level. But I knew how I knew what it felt like until

a world class black belt came and trained with us. Yeah. And then I literally felt like I knew nothing. It was such a gap. It was so wild to feel how easily he could handle me that it blew my mind. Like there's a whole other year. In traditional sports, I feel like that happens at every level, right? Like if you're a general pop person who likes playing wreck ball, it's like, we'll call that

like the lowest level of sport right where you can still be in your your early 20s and playing right but you're not in anything. Then you go to like college and then there's like junior college and regular college and there's D one then there's D one then there's D one at parts of the country if you're talking about football. There's an I there's like, there's an AIA. There's like different levels. And it just keeps going up until you reach pro. And if you made it. And then even within pro, there's your on the bench pro,

your average player pro. Sure. You're cracked to squad. Yeah, the levels are insane. So here's what that takes me, right? Because we know what plays the difference in that. There's definitely work ethic and all that stuff. But at that level, it's like the gifts,

gifts play the big role, right? That discrepancy that we have identified with physical performance, which is wild, it's wild. There's such a huge variant. Most people are somewhere in the middle, but then the extreme is intelligence. It's intelligence, it's in everything. How imagine being, so you can imagine being like the best athlete in the world and what that would feel like.

I wonder what that feels like for people who are that smart. Oh, they should have been on that level of intelligence. Yeah, I think I think I mean that's how about this trip on this for a minute Okay, what would you rather be like Elon Jordan Peterson intelligent or would you rather be dumb as rocks? I think I'd almost rather be dumb as rocks No, I think it would be I'd be you know Ignorance happier anger. Where do you think that saying comes from? Ignorance is bliss. There's a part of being ignorantly dumb, would probably be better.

I don't know where I'm going. They'd be to be massively brilliant because it would probably be torturous. And having conversations without average people would be so unfulfilling. Where if you're the dumb guy, you're wasting all of your knowledge, right? You're every day, every second you're awake.

You're like trying to like solve things. Well, imagine how frustrating it must be. All right. So you guys, so you guys disagree with that? You guys would not really be the, I think you're not. You would not let me to answer that the way you want me to. My ego says no. I will never because.

So you would rather be the ultra brilliant. Yeah. Yeah. People are happy. I don't think it's dumb, dude. Dumb and pretty. Yeah. You didn't say that part. Well, why not?

Have you seen? Are you throwing more stuff in there? You don't dumb pretty when it's, yeah. Oh, no, I'm not gonna say it's great. I'm like a whore. The likelihood you're gonna be rich is probably low if you're really dumb. You know what I'm saying?

So I mean, dumb and pretty, I don't know if it's gonna be a trophy husband, dude. I don't know, man. Doug, were you out with this? That's a tough one, for sure. Being dumb maybe is ignorance is bliss. Yeah. I think there might be a lot of dumb people.

I know a lot of dumb people. I know a lot of happy dumb people. I don't know a lot of very brilliant people that are happy. That's true. I think that's very true. I know way more dumb happy people. Well, did you know I know brilliant people that are?

Yeah, that's a real statistic. Yeah, that's a real statistic that high super high intelligence is associated with anxiety, depression, neur's a real statistic that high super high intelligence is associated with anxiety depression neuroticism Yeah, but really low intelligence is also associated with terrible mental disorder. So I don't know how low you're going Oh, yeah, like every time like average dumb or like dumb dumb Like not medically Like not a not a disability dumb You don't say that yeah just dumb there was an episode of family guy like that where Peter didn't try I'm not a disability dumb. You know what I'm saying? Just dumb.

There was an episode of Family Guy like that where Peter didn't try. Peter knows the doctor doesn't know. He doesn't IQ test and the doctor's like, oh, well, you're borderline. I mean, Andrew, where are you at with this? Are you like really dumb? Are you super brilliant if you had to choose either or? On a scale of happiness, I'd rather be dumb.

On a scale of impact, I'd rather be brilliant. Yeah, of course. Well, yeah, I mean, that's, yeah, if you're, I'd rather be brilliant. Yeah, of course. Well, yeah, I mean, that's, yeah, if you're taking the best people to help the world. Yeah, but I imagine I'll first bring this. Imagine like, I wonder if like a super brilliant like Stephen Hawking's or Elon Musk, if he always feels like he's in a room with kindergarteners. Well, I mean, you've been in this situation.

We've talked about this off-air for sure before, how painful is it even when, at your level of intelligence, when you have to talk to somebody who's so ignorant and dumb and they're, and you're wasting your time talking to them and it's painful, it's painful. And it's like, that's the last time I'm gonna associate with that person. But they're still not getting it. Yeah, at that point too.

And you're like reducing it down and you're really good at communicating and simplifying and they still don't get it. Yeah. So for someone that I feel like Peterson or Musk, everybody has to feel like that to them. You have to feel like you are just everybody you talk to for stracing constantly.

Even the people that think they get it, they don't get it. You know what I'm saying? That's how you feel, you're like, I had to be so weird, you know. Yeah, fuck that. So why do you want to give me dumps? Give me a be a dumb dumb. That's why we got to get the dumps give me a be a dumb dumb

What's up with it? So what's up with the cyber truck propaganda you guys were bringing some stuff up? I think there's a video floating around what I shared The Christmas tree one Oh, that's a four truck. Yeah, there's a four truck that's pulling it out. Yeah, you Propaganda it is okay, so they're so wild look at your look at your eyes is text I sent it to the group thread. Okay, so I I comment on it It's getting all kinds of traction and debate back and forth So do tell me when you see it the headline you see the headline hold on Tesla abruptly stopped on the Baybridge causing an eight vehicle crash. So you

watched the video and the Tesla car all of a sudden like its bleaker goes on and then just like it says abruptly stops and then pop pop pop pop. Now what I come in on that I said if this was any other car model with this title lead with the car model. A Ford Explorer. No, no, and just play that out like no one you would say driver does this or that even if it was like a Prius or another like propaganda. So I know that wasn't the latest movie on Netflix with yeah, it was about like Tesla car. It wasn't about that. But there's a whole thing. I mean, there was they were in there. Like killing. So how many people don't see that like I it's like so there's debate going on with me on there like, how many people don't see that? Like, it's like, so there's debate going on with me on there.

Like, oh, people are really, like, this is, like, I'm like, think about it for a second. It's just random. It's not like, it's not like a car hasn't stopped abruptly on the freeway before and cars haven't piled up. Tell me the car model of any of those other scenarios. It's, you can't, because they don't ever, they don't headline it like that.

It would say driver, or they would, they would, they would, they would record or like self-driving car crashes and do right or something like that. It would, but not Tesla. Yeah. Tesla does this. It's like, it's so easy to deliver it. Yeah. It's very weird to me to see the organized efforts in certain directions.

Uh, because once you see it, you can't unsee it. And it's like, oh my god, this is wild. There's just one page I follow on Facebook called Futurism and I follow them because they post articles about technology and stuff. But I swear to God, every other post is a, let's make a, let's find a way to say something negative. Dude, every, about Elon Musk.

Yes, every tech company is like that. Every magazine like Mashable, tech, I still follow all of them and it literally is like, they'll drum up information from years ago and just put it out there when something's hot, like with Tesla or whatever, just to like, throw shade. And it's so deliberate. It's okay, so you just bring me to that clip

that Kyle sent me this morning. I know you guys saw it with IBM. Oh yeah. Okay, yeah, yeah. This is wild. It's just weird guys, this is so weird. I know you guys saw it with IBM. Oh yeah. Okay. Yeah, yeah. This is wild. It's just weird guys. This is so weird.

I want everybody to understand how strange this is because, you know, in this country, when we moved towards a civil rights movement, we moved in those directions, it was about unifying. It was about character. It was about immutable. Lifting people up. Immutable characteristics are not important. What's important is your character, you know, the way you act, what you do, your beliefs.

It was led by spiritual leaders and churches, and it was very unifying, nonviolent. It wasn't about, hey, it was just, you know, it's color blindness. It's very strange how big of a twist and turn it's taken. And I mean, if you, if you, if you, people understand, I'm not going to go too far down this because I'll lose people, but if you look at the philosophy behind Marxism, Marxism really got twisted and turned into other things.

And so it's still in the same vein of that. And what they've done now is they've demonized, they've taken, they've basically rebranded racism to make it seem like it's good. So here's, here's the example. So IBM, this was a leak that came out. And it was a, this was to the employees and to the managers. They had to abide by their ally ship commandments. Okay.

And they would get punished or rewarded based off of these. And the way that they would judge these was like how many People of this color you hire how many people this gender did you hire how many people this in this position? Do you have the ten commandments that they wrote have the ten commandments? This is coming from this company IBM, okay? Now it starts off and right off the gates are like okay, but then it gets really bad It says number one openly acknowledges privilege and systemic racism exists and results in trauma.

Number two, never questions the reality of our black friends and colleagues. Huh? Number three, yeah, never question. Okay, so, whatever. Number three, rejects the idea that race is political. Number four, accepts that white people are responsible for dismantling racism.

Number five, understanding only white people are racist. That one really cracks me up. Which is interesting. Number six, knows the black community owes us nothing in this work. Oh, I guess they're just talking to each other. Anyway, number seven requires acknowledgement and repair of inevitable mistakes. Okay, that one's cool. Number eight, is never rooted in white saviorism.

They made that up. Number nine, sees the black community as a group of individuals and not a monolith, I guess that's a good thing. Number 10, does not seek recognition or praise for a job well done, which is interesting. But replace white in here with any other race, this would get completely hammered.

It's so strange that this is outright, yeah, strange racism that a company would be promoting and telling their employees. It's really weird what's going on. Well, the leaked video I saw, and hopefully the guys can play it, is the CEO of IBM basically telling the other executives, like, you know, we need to get Hispanics to this percentage, we need blacks to this percentage. It's like, it's crazy that, I mean, you're a company that's for profit and your initiatives

are around race. That's wild. We are so weird. Should be married. Period end of story. Like if you perform, you perform. Yeah. That's just the bottom line.

Imagine if sports, by the way, had these race quotas. No, hey, why not? Why wouldn't a pro football, listen, along these lines, why shouldn't a pro team say we need an equal representation of every race and gender on this team? You know why nobody would watch? Because they just want to win. The best player.

That's the white guy suck, that's why. The best player. It's just be honest. It's just be honest. It doesn't work like that in those words. I mean, it's really strange. It's really weird. And by the way,

there are minorities that don't fall into this narrative. Asian Americans have been suffering quite a bit from... Collision? That was like the most racist thing he said in that video was making that comment, saying that they are not under-representative in tech, basically saying like, fuck them. Well, I've heard them say like, oh, they're white. They're also considered.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. They would be considered privileged. And like, what's up? It's crazy that this is happening in major corporations. And if you think, if people, such an opposite message, if you think that there isn't an agenda behind this, you're crazy. Because it sounds insane.

Why would anybody promote this? There's an agenda. So that's a, okay, that's the part I can't wrap my brain around is that like what you're the CEO this massive What are they worth like a hundred and fifty billion dollars some of that IBM's up there one fifty one forty something? Yeah, they're up there. So you have this is massive billion dollar company and you're the CEO of it like what and as a CEO the board who decides if you're going to stay on or not is based normally off of profit and loss.

Yeah, but you're also the amount of money you can borrow and who invests in you, whatever, a lot of that's controlled by these strange DEI initiatives and whatever. So there's a lot of things influencing. You talking about ESG stuff? Yes, yes. Yeah, but are these guys taking on money still like that? It's, yeah, I believe so.

I really still have to deal with credit. They still have to deal with banks. There's a lot of influence that's happening. Consumers are one of them, right? Consumers can boycott companies and cause. I'm wondering, yeah, for like just in management, they take on some of the psychology that's just like they truly believe in this movement

of progression that it's like some ideologically superior way to go forward, which for us growing up as we grew up, we should look at people as equal. You know, if you're gonna be on a team with me, we all have to see eye to eye and be equal. And this is completely absolutely. Now the reason why I don't get to caught up in a lot of this stuff is because I actually really believe that it'll play out.

It's like, okay, you're going to go this way. Like that, like you create more races, your resort top 100 company right now. Let's see where you're at in five years. I just think that the market will reveal like that this type of leadership, this way of running a company is not a successful way to do it. Even if temporarily they survive and they're okay, I mean, just like the the Bud Light move, they had to pivot from that.

Like I think what that what will happen is you will see, you'll start to see it break apart. I mean, when you got that much power and money, it'll take time. It won't happen. Like you won't take a an IBM company and they'll be broke. Or go bankrupt next year, but you'll see the stock decline. You'll start to see profits decline. You'll start to see in fighting within the gap.

We'll just this leaked video. I guarantee you it's gonna be damaging. Yeah. Yeah. Because there's, and you're seeing this sort of backlash already with just like the public in general. It's interesting that companies are still clasping onto that idea so hard. And this is like still like making its way around.

Well, the only thing that makes sense is what Salah saying, which I don't know enough of like how much are the banks and like a company like IBM that has already worked that much, making that much money like outside of the board, who really has a lot of control right now. That'd be the only way it makes sense, right? Because otherwise it's like you're gonna kill profits. It's like one of those things. I don't understand where,

if you're looking at it from an investor's perspective, where's the benefit of going in the straight? It's just, it's very weird to me. It's very interesting and it's not even applied equally. Like, you don't see, for example, you don't see them saying, we need an equal female representation on oil rigs. Why don't we see that?

Because nobody wants to fucking work on an oil rig. That's why, because the only people that do it are like, oh my gosh, this is hardcore and crazy and whatever. So it's obviously bullshit. That's the bottom line. It's obviously bullshit. You should get hired. And I know everybody's say, well,

that's not how the real world works. Yes, there's definitely discrimination. There's assholes and shit out there. But you should, the ideal is that it's based off your merit. Do you perform the job well? Answer yes or no, who does the job best? Who's gonna give us the best return? Who's gonna show up on time?

Who's gonna work hard? Who's gonna whatever, stay with us? Not like, okay, here's my criteria. I gotta throw away these applicants because they're the wrong color. I have to only pick from these applicants because they fit this criteria of the right gender. The same shit they're fighting against forever. It's just now it's like, you know,

again, this is where it's like fighting tyranny while becoming a tyrant. Yeah, it's just I mean, I just think the results of what the school systems have been preaching for the last couple decades now. And that's starting to shift. You guys see the Elon Musk just went through a hundred million at education. No. Oh, yeah, he started. It started to start. Start a school.

Oh, wow. Yeah, Jordan. Yeah, Jordan. Yes, in Korea. That's because the, the, the, the market is. Oh, this is a big demand for, if you go far enough back on the show, we call that education, would be get massively disrupted. And then within the next 10 years,

and that was like five, four, five years ago, we called that. And so it's here. I mean, you have, we need options. When my parents, 15 years away from it, looking totally different. I think it'll completely change. Public schools are losing money left and right, because parents are pulling their kids out and either going public, either going private or homeschool. And all these options are opening up

because parents are, especially after COVID, COVID was like adding fuel to the fire. It just showed like just all the cracks. Like it was very visible. Like where was failing? And also, by the way, I'm speaking from someone who's like, gosh, I don't know, a good chunk of the, of some of the people in my family work as teachers.

My mom's a teacher, she works in public schools. Yeah, my brother's a teacher. And during COVID, you had a lot of public schools on strike to stay closed. In private schools, you had them going on strikes to open. Why? Public schools got money no matter what. Public schools got no money if the kids didn't attend.

And so the incentives were all weird and twisted. By the way, the damage of keeping kids at a school during the period of time, or like you can't argue that, it was terrible. Yeah, I mean, what was rough for me to see was when we were at the school the other day and seeing, you know, kids that are still, you know, they had the option now and they're choosing to wear them.

Mask. Oh God. It just, it pains me when I see a kid doing that. Like, it's so hard for me to not get angry. The fear, yeah. How much, you know, how much of, how much we dictate for reading someone's emotions and communication and things that are even subconscious based off someone's face and facial expressions and

covering someone's face constantly has a profound effect on your psychology as an adult You do that to a child whose brain is developing you are going to cause some irreparable damage because the brain stops being so plastic at a certain point. So you put your little kid in a very ineffective mask. The data on that is also very clear, especially if you don't handle it like a medical professional, which you're sorry, third grader's not doing that. All you're doing is damaging them. How are you doing? How blown out of proportion do you think that is and do you think that people that are still

pro, your kids wearing a mask, think that is blown out of proportion. Obviously, I don't, those people are not unaware. There's no way after everything that's came out where we're at currently right now that they have not heard that argument. Parents do a lot of stupid shit. That's just one of them. I mean, I mean, I, I, well, yeah. I mean, they would really have to go outside of their channels of reinforced, like if you're just still on legacy media and you're just constantly watching the same shows, reading the same newspapers, whatever it is,

like it's gonna reinforce those ideas still. Like they're not gonna challenge, let's just say. You know, speaking of legacy media and outlets like that like the New York Times and some of these, like, did you guys see after that last debate where Vivek just destroyed everyone? Oh, the debate. Yeah, after the reporting on his way.

Do you see the reporting on it? I mean, it is not even, you can be a not a fan of Vivek. Like just a normal person, pick someone they made up. They made up, they made up everything they were, they made up. They put Christie and what's her face as winners?

Yeah, Nikki Haley as winners of that debate. And the Beck is the loser. The blank girl areas, they almost every one of those, those, those outlets put him at a lot. And I, okay, I'm not a big political guy. I don't watch a lot of these, but I've watched the debates. Two of said that was one of the craziest, like dismantling of your opponents. I have ever seen.

He eviscerated them. Just crazy. Not because we agree with him by the way. No, yeah. Anybody can watch it or go out. It's a debate, just for a debate perspective. Like, you're literally just right. It's like, if you watched that,

you actually watched it, please explain to me how you could possibly not say here's what's happened He destroyed them and they put him as the loser's what's not even in the middle or tied for first like If you if you film a fight and then you take that whole video You can edit it to make it look like something else happened. You could film Mike Tyson fighting whoever and in that fight, you can edit it so that every jab in the other guy can hear. So here's the argument to piggyback off what you're saying.

Because everyone was like, how is this possible? How are they impacting them? Listen, there's over two million or 20 million. There's like look up how many subscribers of the New York Times There is it's it's above two million. It's it's a lot more right Millions of people are subscribing to that and there's probably millions of people that debate was one of the lowest watch debates ever They didn't even watch it and they And they will take that analysis as truth, especially if they cherry pick certain parts to fit the narrative that they're doing.

And then you don't ever do your own homework and you just assume that, oh, this Vivek guys in the last place all the time. 10 million subscribers. 10 million? Yeah, so there's 10 million people that could easily fall for them. We've talked about this before

and I want to bring this up again. So do you think it's always up again. So do you think It's always been this way or do you think it's just more obvious now because I'm gonna tell you like You know this is so I've been paying attention to this kind of stuff for a while just because I like this kind of stuff and For me, I've seen this like this is strange. How can they like wow? There's definitely Special interests that are controlling information that it's opposite of what we would have you would would have had this debate after COVID. You would have had this debate while back. It seems like we're just, you think it's worse. Yes, it's definitely worse.

I think, yeah, I think it's been around, but it's, we can see it more now, which the perception of it makes it even worse. It's harder for them to control. Well, and two, they're not even trying to hide lies. Like, they're not trying to cover things up. They're not trying to like, it's just like, whatever we say, a certain segment's gonna believe us

and so we're just gonna keep feeding them. Like, there just doesn't seem to be any regard for like, how it's gonna make them look later on or whatever. Like, it just seems like we're just gonna be out with our narrative. I mean, I never once will you hear me deny that this hasn't been happening forever. This has been happening forever.

But it is far worse today than it's ever been. And I think just that's because of how fast news travels. I mean, you used to have to wait till 10 o'clock, five o'clock, you know. You could bury old stories pretty quick. Yeah, cycle. But now, I mean. There are attempts, there's more attempts, there's more.

Way more, way, like it's not even close. I mean, because are attempts, there's more attempts, there's more way more way like it's not even it's not even close I mean because there's so many when you if you count things like Facebook and Twitter and Instagram if you include them as media outlets now, there's just so many more I'm gonna give you guys an example right now. I'm gonna get aliens are in the conversation Every distraction you know, and that's not weird to us. That's weird. We had literally a balloon flying across the country. Every that.

Like everybody's freaking out. It's like whatever, like, if we're just in a room, we're like, we got to figure something out to distract everybody. Listen, I'm going to give you an example of that fitness related because this is happening everywhere. There's also happening in health. I see articles and things that people are saying that are not Just not the truth. They're the opposite of what's true. Yeah, and it's weird to me. It's so weird to me I almost feel like am I living like is this am I awake like am I asleep is a weird dream? This is crazy

So here's the title of this article and it was flying all over the place Eat less move more doesn't actually work for weight loss according to new study. So according to new study, eating less and moving more doesn't work. Like don't do it. But then when you read the study and you read through it, here's what this is what happened. Doctors who tell their clients and don't coach them, don't work with them, don't train them. Doctors like, yeah, yeah, you're a BMI's high, you need to eat less, move more.

That doesn't work. Well, no shit. Yeah. No shit. But they said new studies shows. So what is it implies? So it implies that there's nothing to do about your weight. The reason why, the reason why it's like that,

and it's because the algorithm feeds this, right? The more outlanderous titles, too. It's just going that direction. The reason why it's like that and all it's because the algorithm feeds this right the more Outland reach titles to it's it's just going that direction which this also feeds the point that I feel like Jordan Pearson made about Twitter on our show, you know like it's this is why the it's not a true reflection of society It's not a true reflection. No, what if it is what if it's a reflection? What if it's simply amplifying the absolute worst of us? And all this complaining is what it's doing. It's crazy, is that what we're seeing?

That is what it's doing. It's just our own fault. How many people is it converted? Yeah. You know, that's my concern is like how many people have like were the flat earth's usually just to just to just to come over to the edge. The flat earthers have been around for a long time

and but boy are they popular today? They got a lot of videos and shit now. Yeah. I never heard it. Did you ever hear of a flat earther when you were kids? No. Flat Earthers have been around for a long time, but boy, are they popular today? You're telling me. They got a lot of videos and shit now. Yeah. I never heard of it. Did you ever hear of a flat Earther when you were kids? No, of course not. No one ever talked about that.

Now it's like super popular. We have more science, more permission, more proof, and it's the other way. Do you guys know it? Right. I had it debate with my local, when I was a kid, I must have been, I was 20. And him and I sat down, it was a family party.

And this is like, this is pure, perfect example of smart but not wise. So I was a smart kid, but I was definitely not wise. I was, you know, I was a kid. And I'm gonna talk to my uncle and we were talking about the internet. Now keep in mind I'm 19, so this is what is it? You know, 1999 or so, 1998.

So the internet was kind of, you know, growing. And I remember telling him like, you don't understand, uncle, you know, 1999 or so, 1998. So the internet was kind of, you know, growing. And I remember telling them like, you don't understand, Uncle, I said, this is going to save the world. I said, when everybody has easy access to all the informational world, we'll have no more problems. Because we're gonna know things like the problem,

the problem, all of our issues today is because we're just not informed. And my uncle looked at me, he's like, no, you can give everybody all the informational world because we're just not informed. My uncle looked at me and he's like, no, you can give everybody all the information in the world, but that's not wisdom. And him and I had this long ass argument about it while he was obviously right. Obviously right. And I was like, set like no way when everybody knows everything, well, we're going to be

so much better. Now, the one I'm most afraid of that's happening because I don't think I get too fearful so I'd doubt, but the movement around the meat is like Scary to think what where we might be in five to two crazy gas. They'll start passing laws. Yeah So start passing laws and banning yeah, so that's gonna be really interesting United Nations actually Didn't they just put something out and say that they are trying to get countries to To set limits or standards to reduce meat consumption. Yeah, here's somewhere on 2030 or something.

Yeah, my thought on this, this is my strategy. So I just ordered another one of those massive freezers, and I'm not going to eat my butcher box. I'm just going to freeze it. Deep freeze it. I'm going to deep freeze it. How long does the meat stay if you vacuum seal it and deep freeze it? A long time.

Do you vacuum seal it? I don't put a point to you I think I think in like what we should do this marijuana right so used to use the vacuum seal so like in the you get like in so in the seasons right so when outdoor season hits in marijuana the prices manipulate a crazy because there's a flood of cannabis out there because of outdoor right because so much more irony now you marijuana you find it on the

corner so what what so what would happen is it would you're gonna be You're gonna be a meat deal so it would it would drive the prices down now once you get through winter and everybody's smoked all that Outdoor and now you only have indoor we which is a fraction of how much you have during the outdoor season price is almost double So smart strategies for a lot of guys would be to vacuum seal the outdoor put away You could be disciplined to not sell it, which most guys couldn't do because they were on the hustle, they lived paycheck to paycheck or drug deal to drug deal. They would sell all their stuff because they had it,

but if you were smart, you would hold it for six or seven months. That's what it's gonna happen with me. Hey, what if this is gonna get like that? And I'm gonna sell it with me. I'll just say, what if this is all serendipitous? What if the skills that you learn selling weed during that gray kind of gray period? What if this is all serendipitous? What if the skills that you learn selling weed during that great kind of gray period? What if in 2030?

That would be a hamburger dealer. Why do you think I'm already on my head of the crew right now? I'm gonna stockin' out my butcher box, I'm puttin' it away, I'm freezing. How much time do I have? I'm gonna stock it out. So two to three years. Oh yeah.

Two to three years. If you vacuum seal it, and freeze it. Yeah, so I vacuum seal it. Do you vacuum vacuum seal it? No, no, cause I eat mine, but I'm gonna stop. I'm gonna start, I'm gonna keep it cause I it and freeze it. Yeah, so I vacuum seal. Do you vacuum vacuum seal? No, no, because I eat mine, but I'm gonna stop. I'm gonna start, I'm gonna keep it because I'm gonna sell it. Yeah.

It's gonna be worth way more money in like two years. Yeah. Yeah. Wait, wait, wait. It's gonna keep this business afloat for sure. You know what I'm saying? If they try and cancel us, that's all right. We'll be selling your friends by a Bitcoin and gold.

Yeah. How are you going to survive? We just have meat bunkers. Yeah, how are you going to survive? We just have meat bunkers. Yeah, how are you going to survive the economic apocalypse you open your freezer? That's right. Plus, I can eat it if I need food. That's, think about that.

Huh? Have you, by the way, Hope you have a generator though. Huh? Hope you have a generator. I haven't thought that Justin does. I got it. Yeah, I got it.

Yeah, I got it. I think that freeze are going once the, the outage happens. Hold on, do you have a house generator? Yeah, bro. What's it run on gas? Yeah. Okay. What else would it run on? Solar.

Doesn't, doesn't, uh, I think Tesla has solar panels for that. Yeah, but that's, I mean, again, like with solar, your, your dependent, it doesn't really get like with the cover of, of a clouds and everything, you don't really, it's inconsistent. Let's put it that way. No, I'm just saying in case, you know, there's no gas either. Yeah. Well, I mean, we'll just, we'll get a bunch of them.

Do they make like a solar and gas one? So you could run on solar when you have it, then gas when you don't, that'd be interesting. Not familiar with that. We should buy a piece of land for us, right? Great, there we go. Oh, did you guys see what's his face? Did the $100 million bunker, he just built it?

I know. Yeah, that's Tuckerberg. That's Tuckerberg. Why would he do that? That scares the shit out of him? I know. So this is a mansion that connects to another mansion, and then it's like an underground bunker,

like a $100 million compound underground, for him to survive what we're all gonna need. It almost feels like he messed up though. Like, why would, you know, wouldn't you want to keep that a secret? Like, don't be telling everybody you got to try it. I don't know how you could have with all the work. You can't keep that a secret. There's too many people involved in other things.

Yeah, it's too many people. By the way, speaking of butcher box, you know my cousin, I haven't tried this yet, but when I use, so I get the, I like getting the try tips from butcher box. Love their try tips. We sear it first in a cast iron, then we put it in the oven. Yeah, they do a reverse sear. Yeah. What cast iron, then we put it in the oven. Yeah. They do a reverse sear.

Yeah. What's the, I've never tried. Yeah, I always reverse it. That's how I don't, it's better. I don't sear first. I sear at the end. And then he says, I smell better that way. I mean, so do you put in the oven first?

Why use my slow cooker? I smoke it. So I smoke it first. And then I do a sear. So the juice doesn't come out when you don't sear? Now, when you slow cook, you don't have to worry about that. If you put it on a hot flame, really, really, really good, then you lose a sear. So the juice doesn't come out when you don't sear? Now when you slow cook, you don't have to worry about that. If you put it on a hot flame really quickly, I said that then you'd lose some of that,

but when you slow cook it just barely brings the temperature up really, really slow and it cooks it more evenly better and it makes the meat so tender. Now what if I don't have a smoker and I just do it in the oven? Yeah, the same difference. Really? Yeah, yeah, you're doing it in the oven.

So I would run the oven if you're gonna cook some of those steaks, I would run your oven at like two. So it's a try to to 25. So you put it in the room temperature throat in there for to put it at 225. And then, you know, just take, check, check those the when it's done. Then I see it. Almost done because you're going to it's going to raise the meat by another five to eight degrees depending on how long you see. So if you see here for a minute, a minute, it'll normally jump your internal temperature by about five degrees. Would you say about that?

I think so, yeah. About five degrees. So when I pull, I don't like my meat rare. I like it like medium rare to medium. I pull at rare and then I sear. Yeah. What do you guys put on, because you guys use like rubs and stuff, right?

Or what's your go to? For steaks, usually this salt. Not steaks, but like try to, don't you guys put on, because you guys use like rubs and stuff, right? Or what's your name for steaks? Usually this salt. Not steaks, but like tritip. Don't you guys do? I like tritip. I like Montreal seasoning. It's like a real standard.

Yeah, pretty basic like seasoning, or I'll just do salt and pepper. So we go olive oil, garlic powder, olive oil, garlic powder. Oh, really coarse sea salt actually. First, then the garlic powder. so it's got nice crust. And then ground up rosemary. That's good. That's so good.

I mean, that's what, like a mantra, I hit the look at what it was. Yeah, I don't know what this Santa Maria, like Spice, but we used to have like a Spice is the Santa Maria tri-tip that you put on there and we'd rub that and there's really good. But I don't know what that consists of. I mean, really, like to Doug's point, really good meat.

You don't need mutton but salt and pepper, man. And most you're like hardcore barbecue, real guys will just be like, you gotta get cut of meat, like just good salt, pepper. Absolutely. And you don't need much salt. Hey, so update on the vasectomy stuff. So I told you guys to schedule it, right?

Whoa, so it's a dummy. You did? Yeah, it. I'm a little snip. No, I got appointment. I'll believe it when I see it You're right. You're right. I still haven't done it But so you show when you're done, huh? Yeah, I'm gonna want to see okay Yeah, how would you see the incision or what I don't know? Maybe it changes. I heard it shrinks you a little bit really good Yeah, I need that Thanks for the they started it. Listen, that was a joke, everybody. I, yeah, I'm gonna go and Jessica has really encouraged me. You want to know how she encouraged me? How's that? We, she won't.

Not have sex with anyone. That would lessen work. Clondam, dude. I'm married. I don't wear condom now. How's going on here? That never bothered me. Oh, yeah. Come on. Yeah. That's dumb. That's so dumb. Don't say that. There's don't work on them now. How's going on here? That never bothered me. Hey, come on man. Oh yeah, that's dumb. That's so dumb. Don't say that, there's a lot of kids right now. It keeps us kids. My married, everybody.

My grandparents too. I'm just stupid. Don't have unprotected sex if you're not married. So when's the date? When are you scheduled? I don't want to say it. I don't want to say on the air. What?

Why? Why would that matter? Might have some fan show up. Show up, you. Hey, I just started getting fine today too. I'm here to document it. Show up here. Hey, I just started to get mine today too. I'm here to document it. I made it into a lot of places you can get it. I mean, you can get it all the way.

I just wanted to like, it could be. Let me have some. Oh, you're supposed to do a consultation. Oh, yeah, I definitely. And then they scheduled the procedure. For the audience to see you guys know, when we first met in the very first studio,

which is two studios ago, that was the first thing South told us he was gonna do. Yeah. So he told us that when we first started. So I said, yeah, yeah, so I'll believe it when I see it. But yeah, no, this time I think this time serious. I'm gonna go do it. Well, the unvaccinated gold, you gotta consider that.

That's what the, you know what I'm saying that? I know. You guys know that unvaccinated sperm is going for more. Is that true? Is that true? Is that like this? Okay, is that so I have more sub-baits than that is for Macy. No, Google like, is that like, is that more of a debate? Is that more of a debate? Is that inside of inside of information? Is that the same thing? You

have inside information? Yes. You got somebody at a sperm bake? I got somebody that's shopping around. Let's just say like a friend. You have a friend shopper over sperm? Yeah. I don't have that. Really? It's a girl. Don't worry. Yeah. But I'm not that mad. But yeah, I just assume that just I just say, wait a minute. What are you gonna do? I'm gonna say that's why I did a assume that just I'm just saying. Wait a minute. What are you gonna do? I'm gonna say.

That's why I did it. I don't know. I did it. I was able to be all right. I don't know. It's anyways. Yeah. Do they discriminate like?

I don't know. I don't know. So now she is is she asking for it herself? You know, or she being told that, hey, if you want this about it because it was like there was, you know, you get like like a profile and I think that what they do is they give like pictures of the person the guy that donated Like when they're like younger like when they're a kid because they don't want to reveal like what the person So it's like you see kind of like the characteristics that way, but you don't see them as an adult which I think is interesting But yeah, like if you're not going ugly, duckling, that's not cool.

I don't want this one. If you turn out to be, I guess it's a risk, right? What does it say? You know, there's nothing to verify that. Yes, yeah. However, it seems there is a problem with supply right now. Hmm. Yeah, sperm banks are running low.

Well, they're probably not going to report it, but people go in there and they ask that specifically. I mean, if I let the chick I would, so it's like, it's, you know, the articles are gonna pick it up or not, it's happening. Wow. So hard to believe anything. I had a friend who went and got, she got inseminated or whatever,

she wanna have a kid, and she wanted, she wanted like, like tall, dark and handsome, right? That was a thing, like, dick. Tans, you know, you pick all the stuff out, right? That was the thing like, 10, now you pick all the stuff out. They go and actually say like, what do you want, Burnett, you want whatever. Yeah, yeah. So she want tall darken handsome.

She had like this super red head white kid. No, she did. No, she did, really? That's right. That's right. Wonderful. God has a seat. Wonderful kid.

That's funny. I know, that's too funny. Hey, shout out, okay. This is timely. This makes sense here. Yeah, that do you know what it is? You know what to do? Okay. Yeah. So, uh, uh, Christa, Gibi, my buddy is friends with the guys of the group of the people that run baller busters. It's an Instagram. It's an Instagram page. It is nothing to do sexually. It's everything. That's what I'm going to have a second title has to do with you know, ballers on the internet, right? You know, these these big name people that are teaching you

how to make money, which is all over the internet. And like he has mentioned is or his mission is to like debunk a lot of these charlatans, right? Yeah. And so and he brings like real good like when they're ones getting sued by the SEC, like he gets the legal documents and shares like this, this grifter right here is, you know, he rented that for a year. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So he's, they bust a lot of these people that are on the internet making money selling courses to get rich. And so he's, he's great or she, I don't even know actually the person is anonymous who runs the page. Of course. Yeah, oh yeah, they're smart. Oh yeah. Yeah, yeah, they don't, they're, person is anonymous who runs the page. Of course. Yeah, oh yeah, they're smart.

Oh yeah. Yeah, they don't. I mean, Chris, I asked Chris and Chris, I supposedly Chris is like connected somehow to him but doesn't even know who it actually is. Wow. You're actually working? Yeah. So they've kept themselves anonymous.

Which of like your point? Fucking with people that got money, you know, saying like that, like not not. Not a driller. Yeah, yeah. So smart that he stayed anonymous, but the page is great. It's hilarious and they, they definitely expose a lot of people. Real quick, before we, we sign off here, how many people do we have signed up for the train, the trainer course now? Over six thousand, I think. Six thousand.

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First question is from I sell it. Y'all You said you said you said it find the first time close. I like to be able to do a muscle up What should I do to get to that point? Why? Yeah I mean, let's just be honest dude. It's hard. It's a hard. It's a goal I mean, okay, so I'm. It's hard. It's a goal. I mean, it's a goal. I mean, it's not a key to talk about this in answers. I just think it's just a goal. Okay, so I'm just sour because I can't do any.

I know, yeah. General, I bet, I mean, you bet you could at one point. Yeah, I don't know. I've never enjoyed trying it. You never done it? No. Yeah, no, no, no, no. Never cared to.

Here's some good general advice for being able to train yourself to get to do a particular type of movement that is challenging. It's not a guarantee, but it is the roadmap. It is the path. That is to break the movement down into small segments, train the segments you currently have the strength to do, and slowly progress yourself to be able to do the more difficult segments. With this look like, with a muscle up, let's just say you could do a normal pull up and let's say you could

do a normal dip from a very deep position. So you could do two parts of the lift, but the switch off, right, the coming up and turning into the pull up into the dip is the hard part. Well, the way you would break that down is I would do a fast pull up where I jump up off the bar, right? I might perform that explosive part. Then I would progress that to coming up to be able to hold myself up for a second. And then I would progress that to a better position. That would progress that to getting into it

and pushing myself up, type of deal. The more you can break a movement down and train its segments, the easier or better, or more clear the path is, to be able to train the more complex challenging movement. Yeah, in terms of like a strict muscle up and if I'm doing that without like the technique of kind of gaining that momentum

and depending whether you're not doing it on rings or on the bar, to your point of like segmenting it, like taking that first initial pull up and getting as high as I can to where my chest is over the bar. Yeah. And if I can get up to the point and just keep working on higher and higher and higher to where the point I can lean my shoulders forward and then back down, that's one portion

of it. The transition is where it gets most everybody. And when I was doing this, and I was actually working on this for a bit with the rings. And there's a specific way that you hold the rings in like a false grip and then you have to transition from there. But between the high pull ups and then the super low dips. Okay, so super low dips and then holding that position at the very bottom isometrically.

And then grinding my way out from that dead position really helped with that transition from pull up to. I didn't even think about that's the origin of that movement is from rings. Oh yeah. So that's probably the best place to practice that I would think. I think that's because that would probably be more advantageous for your risk. Yeah, because you can rotate it and kind of pull it in and keep your elbows in close. It's a really complex exercise in terms of...

So I mean, I'm'm not qualified to answer this because I've never given a shit to do this. But if it was a client of mine, what the first thing to do is I would look at where their failing point is, right? Yeah. And then we would train and figure that out. To your point, where is that the getting all the way up

to get the bar up to their chest, and then, or is it the transition, or is it the dipping out of that portion? Yeah. So that's what the first thing I would assess. And then the leak of energy between all of that with staying super rigid with your core. So that's why a lot of the gymnasts

will do these hollow body position. And so they feel that connectivity between their fingertips, their toes, they can keep their body stiff as a board. And so you get into a rocking position, like nothing breaks, nothing has that sort of loose flex to it. So to stay rigid, it keeps that nice vertical line. So when you go to transition, you're not like swinging and getting out of optimal form. What about bands under your feet?

I feel like taking the bands from the top, yeah, and then assisting you that way You can do the full movement a partner is even better, but you know why it's tough with bands a partner would be better Well, if you have some device that like holds your waist that actually attaches to the rings Which actually it gives you a little bit of that elastic energy I'm imagining it my my feet and you know what happens to your feet when you're doing a muscle up They're all over the place. So having a band under you is going to be kind of well that also would yeah but that would what you're saying what he's saying though too is like keeping yourself rigid and stiff and not allowing your legs to kick all over the place. Obviously when you're just doing your body weight you're going to do that and cheat it up but well I think CrossFit would I mean

that they're all momentum based and they'll do the swinging, kipping and all that kind of stuff that's a different beast entirely than doing a strict muscle-up. You know, what's hard about this, first off, I love what you said about the dip. So I, at one point, was trying to get to be able to do this on a straight pull-up bar, which is, I don't know if it's harder than rings or not. And it wasn't, I didn't grind my way up. I used momentum, not as much as the, you know, the really good crossfit, you know, people will do,

but I did use some old minimum. But one thing that I noticed was with my pull up, because I have learned to do a pull up to activate my back for so long, so when you're doing a pull up to really try and hit the back, you're leading with your chest, you're squeezing your shoulders back, and you're almost leaning back.

Well, this is not the position you wanna be in at the top when you're trying to do a muscle up. So I had, yes, I had to learn how to do this. And bring my body forward type of, that took me forever because it was such a different muscle recruitment pattern. It's pretty functional though, if you think about it, like if you've ever seen somebody try to get up

over a fence or like, yeah, like some kind of surface up above you, you have to learn that technique and then to lean forward on top and sight. You know, it was hard for me to kind of work on not being preferential towards just one side and then moving to the other and like doing it in unison. So that took a while to develop. I wanted to take you to be able to do that and you did them strict. I did them strict. Yeah, it took me a couple months to practice. How often, so okay, here's a good question then. How often did you practice it and how hard did you train it in terms of intensity?

Uh, didn't train it intensely barely at all, but it's practicing almost every day. So you would just get up there and try a few. See if I had it that day. If not, like I get a little higher, you know, in my pull-up, I'd, you know, get to a position where I'm like leaning over more effectively, and then I'd get to a point where, oh, I can't extend from here, and I just would do it. And then it's, then I got it. That's the most important question. How cool did you look to it?

Yeah. I mean, I was taking selfies while I was up there. Totally. Nobody, nobody even knew I could do it. No, I cared. Yeah. There was one, nobody even knew I could do it. No, I cared. Yeah. There was one person who nobody cared. They'd even seen me do it.

And this is actually when I was like, my friends were doing CrossFit and like, they're like, come on, dude, you do it with me. And so I, I just had to prove I could at least do it there and that setting inside did it. But it was just like that was it. That was it. This was during a stint where you just trained rings. Uh-huh.

Yeah. Yeah. I was really into, yeah, ring you just trained rings. Yeah. Yeah. I was really into, yeah, ring trained for a lot of them. Next question is from Micah2448. The recommended daily allowance for protein is about .8 grams per kilogram of body weight per day, which is about .36 grams per pound of body weight for optimum health. Tell us why they are wrong. Let's fix that sentence because there's an inaccuracy there. So the RDA is not designed for optimal health.

The RDA, minimum, you need to hit. Right. The RDA is based on what will prevent related diseases that are connected to a deficiency in whatever the recommending. So the RDA for vitamin C, vitamin K, vitamin D, magnesium, zinc, protein, fat, it's all based off of a safe minimum, okay? That will prevent you from getting developing issues. It is not optimum, okay?

So think, apply this to anything in your life. What's the minimum you could work to barely pay your bills, right? Versus how much you would like to earn in order to live the life that you want. With protein, it's similar. Could you eat 0.36 grams per pound of body weight and not develop disease related to protein deficiency? Yes. Yes, you could.

You'd be fine. You're probably not going to develop a deficiency, a protein deficiency. If you wait that, would that be the optimal You're probably not gonna develop a deficiency, a protein deficiency, if you wait that. Would that be the optimal amount for muscle growth, fat loss, performance, recovery, insulin sensitivity, longevity, bone health, like everything else? No, it's not. It's actually way lower than what is considered,

that would be optimal. And I'm not just speaking from anecdote, this is actually very well studied. No, no, Lane talks about this. And in fact, the optimal or the get the most is up above 1.5. And we recommend. Per kilo. Yeah.

So I mean, the easy and why we recommend one to one to one is just easy. It's like it falls in the middle of that right. It's not quite the gram per pound. Yeah, it's just an easy like whatever body weight you want to be right. So that takes out the like what if you're 40% overweight okay versus 10% body fat like okay whatever body weight you want to be. Hit that in grams of protein. Hit that in grams of protein. It's like that simple. And you're going to get the optimal. So here's what the, so, and if you fall a little short of that, you're not going to die. You're not going to have major deficiencies.

That's what this, this is what comes from the RDA. You're going to be okay. But you're not going to build the most amount of muscle. And that's what most, most people's goal, whether it's fat loss or building muscle, want to build the most amount of muscle. Because the more muscle you have for the fat loss client, the faster metabolism gonna work,

the easier it's going to be to lose fat. Let me give you an example of this. I just saw some data, this was communicated by Dr. Andy Galpin recently, on strength training. And the question that he was asking, he's one of the lead researchers on the effects of strength training on the body.

The question was, what's the minimum amount of strength training that someone can do to not lose muscle? And he wasn't talking about athletes, he wasn't talking about bodybuilders from the average person. So the average person every 10 years will lose some muscle. How much can the average person do just to not lose muscle? You know what the answer was? It was something like one strength training session once every two or three weeks. That's it?

Now is that optimal? No, no, that's not going to get you to, that's not going to yield you all the benefits of strength training. once every two or three weeks. Now is that, yeah. Now is that optimal? No, no, that's not gonna yield you all the benefits of strength training. Same as through with protein. And the studies on this are thorough, and there's a lot of them. This isn't just one study,

there's a lot, a lot, a lot of studies on this. In fact, they've even controlled for calories, where they take groups of people, eat the same calories, except this group is high protein as we're defining. And this group over here is in the, what the RDA would consider a protein. So the calories are within the same.

You know what they find? The high protein group is leaner, has more muscle, has better metabolic profile. So, so this is, I mean, if you eat this, you're gonna be fine. But if you're listening to this podcast, you probably wanna be, you wanna feel your best, you wanna do your best, you wanna not overeat, you wanna to feel your best, you want to do your best, you want to not overeat, you want to have, you know, you

want to get good response for your exercise, you want to have good health. In which case, it's about double what they recommend. Well, and I feel like if I was talking to one of my clients that was like wrestling with this, and if we weren't trying to change their body composition and we had already achieved the physique, the health level, the performance level that they want, and they're just asking me like, Adam, do I need to keep eating one gram per pound?

I'd be like, no, it's not a big deal if you go under that, but we might see, you might potentially see some muscle loss if you don't at least hit the barra minimums every single day, which you might, if you have a hard time getting one, you might notice you do that. And so if that's the case, then bump it back up. But no, it's not going to kill us.

We're not going to get a disease. We're not going to have this massive deficiency if you drop down to the RDA. If we're trying to make changes, we're trying to make gains. We're trying to build muscle. We're trying to change your body composition. Well, by us not eating the one-to-one, right? One gram for every pound, a pound you weigh,

is just an easy way for you to stay towards the optimal levels for building muscle or body composite. Just to give you an example, I weigh about two, about 207, 208 pounds or so, right? According to the RDA, I would eat about 75 grams of protein a day, or 70 grams of protein a day. Would be, would be okay for me.

If I, I'm telling everybody, if I ate 70 grams of protein a day, I be okay for me. If I, I'm telling everybody, if I ate 70 grams of protein a day, I would notice dramatic loss. You would lose muscle. You also have to keep in mind, though. And my appetite would go up. You have to keep in mind, too, though. You've also built an abnormal amount of muscle

for your body and your frame. So you're already... That's complement. It's just abnormal. Yeah, you're already, you're already, you're already for your bone and height and everything carrying probably 15, 20 pounds more muscle than what was average or normal for your body.

So in order to keep that, and that's a good point. That's a good point if you using yourself as an example. The more muscle that you have built, I think the more that becomes important that this number stays at an optimal range, in order the more that becomes important that this number stays at an optimal range, or to keep that. Otherwise, if you drop down to RDA, someone like you, your body would, you wouldn't get fat per se, but you would probably start to

lose muscle, and then your body would start to kind of find homeostasis of, okay, if he's only eating this much protein, he trains as much. This is kind of a... Strength training plays a role, hormones play a role, you know, stress plays a role, everything plays a role. But yeah, overall, this is just a low recommendation if you're looking to improve. Next question is from Honeybeast. What can be a daily routine for neck and back slouching?

Oh, okay. You know, this is a good question. So when I was training people actively in gyms a long time ago, this was a good question. So when I was training people actively in gyms a long time ago, this was a big issue. I mean, I trained and I managed gyms here in Silicon Valley, so good percentage of my clients worked in tech and worked at desk, so that promotes that kind of posture.

What's crazy is now the amount, the percentage of just everyday people, I see like this in kids. This is actually quite common in children. So the idea behind any, if you want your body to move or shape a particular way, strengthen the muscles that promote that, right? So back slouching, shoulders rolling forward,

well what muscles would I need to be strong to support the opposite of that? We're delts, right? Drone boys. Yeah, so the mid back muscles, right? My neck moving forward. Well, all the deep cervical muscles that pull my neck back and give me kind of this double chin look.

So you essentially strengthen what opposes this posture to prevent this posture from getting too dramatic. And that's pretty much that's generally true for anything. My favorite thing to do with my clients that had a job that required them to sit at a computer all day, which is basically working against what we're trying to tackle is a real light band that they just kept at their desk and they literally would just every hour stand up and do 15 to 20 band pull-apars. And I would teach them to stand up tall and straight, tuck the chin back and then do 15 to 20 band pull-apars,

get back to work. And if they just, if they train them, they train them to do the same thing. Yeah, they train through level with that, they get it against the wall. Yeah. So they can get that feedback with their head and then their shoulders and getting that external rotation. So yeah, between band pull parts and then also just our wall press, their wall tests to just, you know, make opportunities for that. And you have to almost like put it as an alarm or something initially to create a habit. If you do a good job of becoming,

the first step to your point is to become aware of this. What is this poor posture? Look like that's a little more obvious to you because you're asking the question, well, what does the optimal posture look like as far as the neutral spine in your head and you retract the shoulders like you're saying, that's why I love the wall.

Once you kind of figure out what that feels like, I'll do this more in doing this. I mean, we hear all, you know, every once in a while when the camera's not on me and they're talking, I'll be over here and I'll just kind of, activate, activate, my core is activated right now. I tuck the chin, my shoulders are pulled back. I do it on planes all the time.

I do it when I'm driving, if I catch myself doing this for a while, I'll just, and I think if you're really good about becoming aware of that posture and what it's doing, just doing that throughout the day. Let's comment real quick on what it's doing, right? Besides the way it looks, because I'm assuming this question is being asked

because the person's like, I don't like the way it looks, which okay, but there are other downstream effects the way it looks, because I'm assuming this question is being asked because the person's like, I don't like the way it looks, which, okay. But there are other downstream effects from suboptimal, let's just loosely categorize it. Suboptimal posture, you have impediments in breathing. Full diaphragmatic breaths are harder to do when you're slouching and crouch forward. There's also a feedback mechanism that happens in the body where the way you feel makes you hold your body a particular way, but the way you hold your body also sends a message to your brain that says we feel this way. So if you hold yourself in this slouched protective position, which typically means fear, typically means depression or illness or sickness, you'll actually start to feel those ways as well because of the feedback.

So the downstream effects of correcting this or training this are not just you look better. You'll actually feel a lot better, you'll breathe a lot better, and then I could even make the case that that could affect things like hormones and sleep and so on. So this is an important one for a lot of people. Next question is from Patrick the hybrid. If you are regularly active, do you think sport massage is important? I mean, that's why I married one. Yeah, that's why it's that one. I'm sorry, I checked that box.

I was like, oh my god, this is a necessity right here. You know, you know what's funny? So I'll tell a story. I used to, so I had a wellness studio. It's not why I'm more timid. I know. I was like real quick. I was like, I'm serious.

I'm serious. So I was like, there's a lot of reasons. Yeah, yeah. So I used to own a wellness studio. And at that time when I first started it, I was definitely the meat head trainer. So I was like, you know, a new strength training,

a new macros, that was it, weight loss, muscle gain. But I knew that there was value in other modalities. And one of the modalities that I wanted in my studio was bodywork or massage, right? Because I saw the value that provided other people, I hadn't ever really experienced it, wasn't a massage person, but I said, you know, people will want this.

I think that people can benefit. So I had it in there. So I'm so happy I did because for 15 years, I worked side by side with people who did body work. And I saw the impact that had on movement. I saw the impact that had on people's emotions on how they felt. Like, there's a lot of reasons why massage can be valuable.

One of them is getting the body to move differently. So when someone's pressing on muscles or working on muscles, it communicates to the central nervous system and it tells the central nervous system to fire a little bit differently. Like here's a simple example. You're really tight in your neck. Somebody pushing on your trap muscle

allows it to quote unquote release. What really what's happening is you're pushing on that trap muscle, the CNS at first fires a little harder, so it feels tight, but eventually CNS gets this signal and it actually relaxes and melts, and then you feel much better. It's much more complex to that, really good massage therapist know how to do that through a whole body to get you move a little bit differently

and combined with strength training, it's this amazing combination, but there's another part to it which is the human touch. I saw this firsthand. I had one client in particular, I saw this with other people, but this one person stands out. I had this one client, older gentleman,

lived on his own, never married. You know, he was great, I loved him, little awkward or whatever, didn't have tons of close friends, and I convinced him to get massage. And the benefits he got, he got some benefit from the body work, but he got tremendous benefit from being touched because he was never being touched. He was never hugging people and bracing people.

Touch is extremely healing and good massage therapist know this. And I know some people are probably rolling their eyes. I'm telling you, this is a big part of it. Massage therapist knows exactly what I'm talking about. Yeah, but chemically, isn't it? Like, I mean, what's that? So powerful. Yeah, what's that bonding chemical?

Oxytocin. Oxytocin that you get from that. I mean, it's just, and there's all those studies with like little babies that don't get touched, you know, in how they turn out. Oh, yeah. Oh, my God. and love them die of of depression and neglect. Yeah. So it's, again, it's one of those things you don't really consider as much because as you become an adult, it's like, well, you know, you can be isolated.

I'm alone, wool for, you know, all these types of things. But really like, I mean, we suffer the consequences of not having human to human interactions. And that's like, definitely in our physiology. So to be able to have that, I think it's massively valuable. I mean, I drank the Kool-Aid over 13 years ago. So there's no doubt in my mind the power of it. And I've also been married to Katrina. I've been the whole spectrum of there was a period in my life where she literally misaged

me every single night. And then I see the closing period. Yeah, this was the closing period. And then I've had every level of frequency between that, right? Nothing gets more than every single day. And then I've had three times a week. I've had two times a week, one time a week,

and then not at all. And the difference that I feel from that is profound. I mean, when she's massaging me on a semi, even just a semi-regular basis, two, three times a week, my workouts are significantly improved. Your pumps, three times a week, my workouts are significantly improved. Your pumps? Yeah, my pumps, my recovery, like I just, it's 90,000.

There's that category. So no doubt what it does for recovery and the CNS and to the points you made there. And then to your point, about touch, 100%. Being touched by another human being like that, especially somebody like that's in that field normally who's about positivity and good energy and they're normally like Katrina before every client like they do this thing or they they clear themselves and they they want to bring only that type of energy to the client and so they recognize that they're they're transferring some of that energy over to that person where

they rub you. So you're getting that benefit of it. Then also, how many times have we talked about the meditation and creating space? Like that forces that. Like it's an hour and a half where it's silent and all that's going on is music in the background and I'm completely quiet in my head. And those are some of my best business thoughts and introspective thoughts.

And- Never stopped the massage. Hold on a second, right? Yeah, man. So relaxed. Like, you just, there's so much value to it. Really, it's, to me, it's more about expensive. You can afford to do this.

The more you do this, the more beneficial I think it is. I mean, that's how I'm so alive. It's so much perisynbathetic, I think. Like, I can feel like in terms of like calm, because yeah, you're, I mean, somebody else is sort of taking care of all these things and you're just, you know, you're just there, you know, in your own calm headspace. Yeah, this is, by the way, it's an ancient practice. This has been around for a long time. There's a reason why it's been around for a long time. There's a reason why it's lasted so long. There's a reason why machine massage or tool massage has never replaced massage therapist. We store memories in our bodies, not just in our brains.

I don't necessarily mean specifically like I have a memory in my body, but I've seen this firsthand many times. The first few times I saw it, I was like, what is happening? Where somebody will get, they look totally fine. They're totally cool, whatever. I had this happen because I learned certain massage techniques that I would use on clients on the workout floor to help me with my workouts.

It wasn't really a massage, it was more like, how do I get this muscle out of the way or how do I work on this area so they can move better. And at perfectly fine person, I would press on an area, they'd get a release and they'd cry. Like an emotion would come out. And I remember bringing this to the person that worked with me, I would press on an area, they'd get a release and they'd cry. Like an emotion would come out. And I remember bringing this to the person that worked with me who was an expert in this

and was like, oh yeah, that's expected. If you massage people, you work on people, you expect sometimes people, anger will come out, resentment will come out, sadness, whatever. So tremendously value. Remember when we talked about, if we were Uber rich and we just had like ridiculous things that we pay for and I made the comment about I'd have sheet fresh sheets every single day or with that.

This would be the other thing. I would have before bed every night. I would have yeah. I would literally have a live in massage therapist that I just get me on the table right before bed like that would be the you want to talk about like also like setting up your night. We'll talk about like having a night routine to actually have like a massage before you're in bed. I mean, talk about calming you and relaxing you,

setting you up for incredible sleep. Like yeah, that would be another thing I would add to like that's just like over the top. Awesome. Look, check this out. If you're a trainer, a coach, you're working the fitness or health industry, you need to go to mindpumptrainer.com.

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