Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 2243: Front Squats Vs. Zercher Squats, Straight Sets Vs. Circuits, Ways to Increase Your Appetite & More

Episode Date: January 5, 2024

In this episode of Quah (Q & A), Sal, Adam & Justin answer four Pump Head questions drawn from last Sunday’s Quah post on the @mindpumpmedia Instagram page.  Mind Pump Fit Tip: The two MOST important things to consider when picking a protein powder. (2:22) New product alert from Paleo Valley, Beef Tallow. (14:29) The guys journey with fast food. (16:45) Justin’s ‘incredible’ DMV experience. (29:31) Fun Facts with Justin: Dogs trained to drive. (31:28) Mind Pump’s holiday traditions. (33:36) Shout out to Mind Pump’s 3-Day Trainer Series! (53:58) #Quah question #1 - Do you think it would be detrimental for someone just to do Zercher squats and not to front squats? What are the unique benefits of each? (55:17) #Quah question #2 - Bulking is a chore. Is there any natural means of increasing appetite? (1:00:07) #Quah question #3 - You guys advocate for more “straight sets with proper rest” which I much prefer myself, but it seems difficult to achieve when it comes to training clients for only an hour. When you trained, did you stick to straight sets or more of a 1. ABC, 2. ABC circuit style? (1:05:18) #Quah question #4 - What are your thoughts on the best gut health supplements? (1:11:42) Related Links/Products Mentioned Personal Trainer 3-Day Training – Starting Jan. 15, 2024 Visit Organifi for the exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Promo code MINDPUMP at checkout** Visit Paleo Valley for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! January Promotion: New Year's Resolutions Special Offers!! New to Weightlifting Bundle | Body Transformation Bundle | New Year Extreme Intensity Bundle Body | Transformation Bundle 2.0  New Study of Protein Powders from Clean Label Project Finds Elevated Levels of Heavy Metals and BPA in 53 Leading Brands The World According to Monsanto (HQ) - YouTube The 22 Most Valuable Happy Meal Toys From McDonald's For a limited time only, Mind Pump listeners get a free LMNT Sample Pack with any purchase: Visit DrinkLMNT.com/MindPump Build Your Legs with the Zercher Squat – Mind Pump TV BEST Front Squat Regression & Mobility Tips (START HERE) – Mind Pump TV Man v. Food: Kitchen Sink Challenge – (YouTube) Visit Kreatures of Habit: Meal One for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Code MP25 at checkout** Mind Pump # 1952: How To Bulk The Right Way MAPS 15 Minutes Stop Working Out And Start Practicing – Mind Pump Blog Visit Seed for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Promo code MINDPUMP at checkout for 30% off your first month’s supply of Seed’s DS-01® Daily Synbiotic** MP Holistic Health Mind Pump Podcast – YouTube Mind Pump Free Resources People Mentioned Dr. Stephen Cabral (@stephencabral) Instagram  

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That's right, no, number one. That is important. It needs to be free from impurities. Believe it or not, a remarkable amount of protein powders have high amounts of heavy metals. That's not good for you. Number two, is it easily digestible for you?

That's it. Those are the two things you need to consider. Aside from that, I mean, what kind of protein you get, how the flavor, all that stuff, not nearly as important. So, free from impurities, and is it easy to digest? This is what people need to focus on. Last episode before we go on vacation, I thought it'd fuck with you and you're in trouble.

My intro there? Yeah, I did. You did. It didn't break stride, that's pretty good. So there is actually one more thing that I think is important to consider. At least I remember this being a challenge with clients when they would go out to go by protein, right? So I would typically tell my client, like, oh, here's a couple brands that I like, right?

You know, check these out. And you know, inevitably, you know, one out of three would come back with a brand that I didn't say. And then they would be like, oh, I found this one for way cheaper. And one of the things that one of the hustles of many hustles that the Supplement of History has, but one of the hustles in the protein market, because the most expensive part is the amount of protein in there. And then is it like third party tested and is it actually got what it's saying, right? So the first hustle of the the amount of protein is in it,

some of these protein powders you'll notice need two scoops in order to get like the amount of protein that you're looking for. So it'll be like 40 grams of protein, but then it's like two scoops. So one scoop is only 20 grams. The protein powder that I wanted you to get was, say, 38 grams of protein and it's one scoop. And so, and then you're looking at the weights about the same. And so a lot of people don't pay attention to the serving size and the ratio of protein per scoop

makes a big difference on the price point a lot of times. And so it's one of those hustles that protein powders will do is they'll make it look like it's a better deal because it's cheaper, but in reality, you're getting half the protein in the total juice. So protein market. So the sugary powder. Yeah, 100%.

Like, so here's what's crazy with the protein powder market. If you look at the actual investigative studies on protein powders, they are dismal, okay? There were protein companies, large ones, that were caught doing what's called amino acid spiking, so what is that? When companies go in to test the protein powder to see if it actually has as much protein as it says it has,

they don't test all the amino acids, that's way too expensive. They'll test certain chemino acids, and if they're at a certain amount, they can deduce and say, okay, there's 30 grams of protein per serving. So what do these companies do? They would have crap protein in there,

and then just spike it with extra amino acid powder so that it would show up on the test and it would show, oh, it's got this much protein. So they lied. Number two, remember that big study on vegan protein powders? They came out. All the metals. Heavy metal content and then was so bad

that if you took a scoop of this every day, like most people do, and you did it for like a couple years, you would have heavy metal concentrations in your system that would cause side effects, adverse effects, neurological effects, anxiety, inflammation, hormonal effects. And what sucks about that is you would have no idea it was your protein powder.

You would go to the doctor, doctor would be like, I don't know what's wrong with you. You go to this person, I don't know what's wrong with you. I'm gonna test my gut, what's happening. And you think this protein powder can possibly be it until you got your metals tested and then you'd have to like go through. Now why vegan specifically?

Like why did they? Erbocides and pesticides. Right, okay. Yep, okay. Erbocides and pesticides, the organic ones believe we're not were higher in heavy metals because organic pesticides are higher in some of these heavy metals.

Now, at the time, why is that, oh, because they're pulling from things like beans and stuff. Oh, okay. I was like, that was a good question, just I was like, you know what, I've never thought of why. Yeah, but that's why.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, what are the top four things that vegan proteins derive their protein from? I know, chino peas. Soys. Soy. Peas. Rice. Peas.

Amaranth. You'll have pumpkin seeds. And all those are getting blasted with pesticide. They can, right? And so, different than pulling from dairy. Yes. Yes. Now, with milk, way protein, that's where the pulling from, you know, dairy. Yes. Yes. Now, now with milk, way protein, that's where the amino acid, you know, spiking was happening. There could be

other stuff in there that found another test. But I remember when that happened, we were all up in arms. We got this report. I immediately got on the phone with organify. This was years ago. And it, by the way, this is when we first started working with them. This was a turning point, not unless they had turning point, but this was one of the most memorable moments in our relationship with the organophyte because of how they responded. I got on the phone with them and I said, are yours tested? Because if they're not tested, we will stop selling them until it's verified that they're not high in heavy metals. I'm not going to advocate that my listeners take your product and I take your product and we're, you know, essentially poisoning people and they said, no, no, no, already, already ahead of you.

They sent me a third party testing. Very clean. So that's why that's important. And then the second one is digestibility because if you're eating the amount of protein that is considered optimal for muscle building, fat loss, for satiety, for recovery, all that stuff, it's a lot of protein. Okay. So if you're taking a protein powder to make up the difference, you're probably taking

anywhere between 30 to 80 grams of protein versus worth of protein powder. If it throws your digestion off, it's causing more inflammation and over time, you're going to get not just less out of it, it's causing more harm than good. Now I say this because a lot of people, myself included, when I was a kid, I thought it was just, it was part of the game, you take protein powder, you have gas, you have digestive issue, you know, they call protein far, so whatever. No, that's not good.

Taking an extra 30 grams of protein that disrupts your gut health is not worth the 30 grams of protein. So it should feel like when you take your protein powder, you should feel like that was so easy to digest. That was really good. And then it should be very clean. It should provide you, if you ask for it, with testing.

Is this tested for heavy metals? Organifi takes it a step further and tests for glyphosate residue. They even test and show that their product for glyphosate residue free. Glyphosates are the roundup, right? The herbicide that sprayed all over genetically modified plants that's been linked

to non-Hodgian's lymphoma and people who use it has been shown to potentially disrupt the gut microbiome and all that stuff. Well, that's crazy, because even then, like the plants would have to be covered because the rain itself, they've tested, has like glyphosate residue in it. So it's pretty difficult to abide by that kind of a...

You know what happens is some organic farms? They'll be an organic farm. And next to it is another one. That's right. And they'll fly the plane over and blast, glyphosates over their plants. And there'll be a little... There was a documentary.

What documentary was that, what they did that? And there was like an organic farm that was that, where they did that? And there was like an organic farm that was just next to a bunch of other ones that was, all they were failing, all their tests and stuff like that because of just the wind blowing it over. Bro, it goes even farther,

it goes even farther. So, Monsanto corn, right? Geomo corn, which is a product, a patented product of a company like Monsanto, they sell you the corn and then they sell you the glyphosate to go along with it.

The corn has been modified to not die when spread with this herbicide, so they blast their fields of corn, corn survives, because it's been genetically modified, all the other plants die. Did you know? This is what the documentary was about. That it blew over.

It changed this guy's crop, and then they came over to suit them. They sued you. They sued you. That's what the document was. I was like, I know I watched a documentary that was related to that, and that's what it was. It was horseshoes.

Yes. So they would go in this organic farmer who's not even planting your patented corn, because some of the corn from the field over, obviously the wind blows, whatever, some seeds move over. They find some in your crop, sued them and won. Yeah.

And this was like a game that they were playing. Oh, wow. By the way, do you guys know the history of how GMOs became a member of a document? You must have watched the same documentary as I did. I thought it was a long time ago. It wasn't a documentary, I've just read about it. Oh, yeah.

There's a whole documentary about it. I was really good. Told the whole story of the big loss because it happened to someone in particular that it really fucked them. And they were intentionally trying to bully him out. And that was one of the strategies that they used. Do you know what they got these things to get patent to be able to become patented? It went all the way up to some of the top courts because you're not allowed to patent plants or nature.

So they made the argument that this is not natural. But the argument was we're going to, we want this to be able to be patented because it's our product. We modified it in a lab. However, we also want to be able to call it corn because we don't want the consumer to look at the ingredient list and see GMO corn. We know that that would not let us sell as many. So we want to be able to patent it,

but also call it the same name as its natural counterpart. So dumb. There are other products like this. I don't know if you know this. I don't know if you guys know this. They'll get approval to name something something we... Or aren't they gonna go through this? They're gonna go through the same thing with meat, right?

Yes. I mean, we're gonna have that same problem. It's like, they're gonna want a name and meat. It's like, it's really not though, right? No, and there's also, there are other things that they'll, it'll be like AP 45 or something like that in the ingredient, you don't know what it is. Is that a dock right there? Dude, what's it called?

Yeah, it's 2008, the world according to Monsanto. Yeah. Didn't Monsanto make Agent Orange? I don't know if that's the dock. I believe they did. They did. They did. Okay, because I know it was like bearer did a lot I don't know if that's the dog. I don't know if that's the dog. I don't know if that's the dog.

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a thing that you had to go get psyche valve and all this kind of stuff. And he's now receiving like medical benefits like slightly now, but he's like, I mean, he's in late 70s, you know, at this point. So it's already done. It's, it's damaged. But yeah, dude, it's, you know what else was crazy? I was thinking about this like, you know,

this big hustle of like trying to repurpose like petroleum and then like turning to plastic and do all these things. You know, they actually made like sweeteners at a petroleum. How do petroleum. Like, what the fuck? Do you know, if we eliminate all this stuff? If we eliminated petroleum, how screwed would we be?

Do you know how many products and medicines and plastics and of course fuel and stuff is based off petroleum? It's crazy. If you look it up, that was the double-aged sword, right? Oh, yeah, there's a chart that shows the use of oil or petroleum and the worldwide population and it just it spurred this explosion So it's like there's a lot of challenges with it but also like we can't take it away because yeah

We've been so essential with a way we structured it. Oh, yeah, this way it's essential, way we structured it. Oh yeah, yeah. Close and medicines and all kinds of crazy stuff. Yeah, with protein powders, people are so concerned with like, which one has the best amino acid profile? Which one is the most anabolic or whatever? And yes, if they're all clean and they all are easy to digest, that's something you should consider.

But if you have one protein powder that is not equivalent in terms of bio, you know, it's not as bioavailable. For example, let's look like you could go with collagen, for example, or, you know, bone broth protein versus, let's say, way or vegan protein versus way, way is more bioavailable and more anabolic. But if way, you don't digest well and and vegan or bone broth you do digest well, go with the one that you digest well. It's gonna do you better. Yeah, I'll do you much better. Yeah, so anyway.

I've actually been doing the Payo Valley one a lot. I did the bone broth one that you finally got to saw. What I haven't tried is I saw we have a bunch of vanilla and we have the unflaver. I'm almost out of the one you call the chocolate donut one. Yeah. Once that's done, I'll try the other one. But I just noticed that I can push it all the way up to like 50, 60 grams. No problem. And not have any problems with it.

Speaking of paleo valley, you use their beef talo? Oh, yeah. So, should anybody else use it? Yeah. I have. Did she send all of us? Oh, yeah. So, every year around Thanksgiving.

It's a old school oil to cook with. Yeah, we cook the potatoes, like with it. Oh, off air, a duck and an cook with. Yeah, we cooked potatoes like with it. Oh, off air, a Doug and I were talking about that's what air fryer. That's what McDonald's used to use. Original. Oh, my God, it was like way better. Yeah, I could be in everything. Yeah, I could.

I cooked a steak in there. Oh, you did. Yeah, yeah. You put it in a pan or anything? Well, I mean, I slow cooked it first, right? So I took it, I brought it up to the temperature, just like we talked the other day about. And then I, you know, reverse-seared it.

And then I just, I did it, finished it in the tallow. So the tallow, what's the difference between that butter, whatever you use before the flavor? And... Yeah, so it has a little bit of, yeah, it has that kind of beef flavor too, so it's a little bit different flavor than like a butter does.

It, you know, it burns off at a higher temperature. So like if you're cooking like, if you, if you see a steak on like a cast iron, I knew you used like say butter or olive oil, well, olive oil not so much too, well, olive oil too actually. You'll notice that when you get it real, because I get it really, really hot,

it'll start to burn off. Smoke. Yeah, it'll smoke and burn off. The tallow like stays in there. So I didn't need as much, and I was scooping it like I would butter, because I would, like, it's supposed to be ideal for high temperature cooking. Right, which means I didn't need as much, and I was scooping it like I would butter, because I would, like supposed to be ideal for high temperature cooking. Right, which means you don't need as much if you're just doing like a sear like I was doing.

So I definitely over did it on the amount, and they're not thinking that about the, the temperature that it burns at. And so it stayed like, and so which is kind of nice, if you're going to sear something like that, I would have last a lot longer than like, you know, uh, you know, what's, what's clarified butter called again? Gee, gee, gee, or butter, or oil like that. So it's nice. Now I'll be able to just use like a little tablespoon of it where I put a pretty big gob on there that had like,

a deep fried steak. I'm gonna fry my steak a little more than that. I shouldn't have made a chicken fry. But I mean, it did make this, you know, beautiful brown crust on the steak, and I had slow cooked it So you know you guys know why me Donald stop using beef tello. You got sued by a vegan Because they said you didn't tell me that this so off air Doug and I were talking about this and I heard him say that

He heard or believes that After that and when they switched over to vegetable oil that they put something in it to still give you that iconic flavor. Oh, yeah. Some kind of beef flavor. Oh, no, they went. It used to be beef tello. That's what we fry our fries now. They went to their engineers.

They went to their engineers and scientists and basically engineered an oil and flavoring and stuff to make it taste like beef tell. So we went from beef tello, natural, one ingredient to franken oil. I hope it tastes like it. Uh-huh, uh-huh. I wish I remember, because you said that was like 80s, 90s, when it was in.

I think it was 1980 when they switched. I don't remember how the fries tasted. Find out when it switched before that. I think it was 1980. 80s, the fries are epic. I mean, that's the best. the McDonald's fries on their hot. Yeah, McDonald's fries out. They've engineered the shit out of those.

Yeah, is they definitely have figured this thing. Did I tell you guys I had McDonald's like. It's a vegan in McDonald's. Huh? Where are they hanging out of McDonald's? I'm wrong, it's 1990. So we grew up eating real french fries as kids. Yes, so yeah, that's all silent. Well, no, I'm just saying a moment there. So we grew up eating real french fries as kids. Yes.

So yeah. That's all silent. Well, no, I'm just trying to moment there. Well, what I'm thinking is how much McDonald's that I really have before, I mean, I did eat their fries. So he said nine years old for me, they switched over. And so I don't know how much McDonald's we have. When I was a kid, McDonald's was like a big tree.

A chick's mega. So maybe I had a whole time. Oh, when I was a kid like you McDonald's like a big trick. Oh, yeah, so maybe I have old times I had when I was a kid McDonald's I eat most you know, it's bad. I probably most of my fast food as a teenager and young trainer by yourself. Yeah, yeah, so from you know, probably junior. Yeah, 1315 to you know, 20. Here's when I ate fast food. I ate fast food. First fault was a big deal. Like we ate out once in a great while. And when we did, it would be the McDonald's or KFC or if it was a really big deal, we go out to pizza.

But it wasn't often because it was too expensive for us. Or when I would go to work with my dad in the summer. So in the summers, I had to work with my dad and I'd be his helper. And he didn't pay me. But what he would do for me is every morning on the way to the job, he would stop by McDonald's and let me order their breakfast sandwiches or whatever.

You know what I think is one of the most interesting things about my journey of eating fast food and not eating fast food is that I wish someone told me maybe when I was younger or when I was in my early 20s and I was still eating it, is once you've yourself to to get it completely out of your life it never tastes as good as it used to taste when you were eating it habitually. You have to work in you have to work it out. Yeah, eat it for a while.

Which to me it just highlights the the level of processing that are in there. I experienced this with even like protein bars. I told you guys my my journey with like the quest bars and like completely not eating them and, and then coming back and I'm like, oh, these aren't that good, and then still eating them, and then I'm like, oh, these are great. And then, oh my God, I'm craving these. I want lots of these.

That's the similar journey with fast food. Like, my memories as a kid, or early 20s eating all these fast food restaurants, oh my God, it was so amazing, and you craved it. And then I got rid of it like completely and didn't have it in my life for years. And then remember reintroducing it, oh, you know, it's been so long since I've had a walk.

Oh, it's awful. It just, it doesn't hit. It doesn't hit the same, it doesn't sit in you the same. You know which one's the best blessing in this guys is that you, you know, I know I'll never, ever go back to wanting that all the time. And I know there's people out there listening right now who have probably never consistently cut, say,

fast food out for years out of their life and then done that. And anybody who has, I guarantee, his experience exactly what I'm talking about. And so if you're that person who wants to, and I do that, the trick is to eliminate it for a long and a period of time that it gets rid of that. Remember the documentary supersized me?

Yeah. I was in the guy's name, he dollars every day. And he said, I don't remember what week it was, maybe week two, he said, wow, now I'm actually starting to crave it. Whereas at first he kind of felt like, oh, that's too much. That's right, he did talk about that. He did talk about how it wasn't that good,

and he was forcing himself, and then you see him change. Crave it. Yeah, like, oh, so good. The worst one for that, where you remember it tasting better than it was, is Taco Bell. Taco Bell, when I was a kid, I don't know, I remember it so good. The worst one for that, where you remember it tasting better than it was is Taco Bell. Taco Bell, when I was a kid, I don't know, I remember it tasting good, right?

Have you ever had a bean burrito, like as an adult? What is that? It's literally, what is it? It's just, it's like gelatinous. Yeah, it's you. You look at it and like, what is this? It's terrible. In like a, yeah.

My school served them. We actually, at lunch, we had bean burritos. Yeah, you should look that up because you brought that up and I told you that uh yeah, he's the pounded it was uh Taco Bell did have like that with it was something they Dan a partnership with schools look that look up Taco Bell partners with with uh education system or something Doug because there was a period of time when I was in high school when that was the only like we had we had I think two options it was a beam burrito or I was in high school when that was the only, like we had, we had, I think two options. It was a beam burrito or something else. I don't know if I remember what the second thing was,

but there was two things. Oh, we had was a beam burrito. Maybe it was only beam burritos. It was like one or two things. You know, we had, I don't know why I just remember this. There were two items at lunch that were like, like this is what you got. Should we pass?

This is what you got, see what? It was, it wasn't a chalupa. No, no. I just like saying that. That's way before, bro. That's not a real thing, no. Chalupa didn't come out to, it's not even a command school. Chalupa didn't come out no no, I just like That's not a real thing I'm not a later That's an American made up that's not a real thing

Andrew Chalupa is not a real Mexican food. Well, it's so racist. Why are you asking him? Cuz he's Mexican. Well, it's my ass in here. Huh? Not gonna ask you You know, he's he counts. He's upset right now I even asking him to say to upset. It's not a real food. When I was a kid, it was in high school, either the bean burrito or cheese bread.

We have something called cheese bread that everybody wanted to eat. The pizza. So we had a round table, did a thing. Oh, you guys had round table? Yeah, it was there. Yeah, what would you go with cheese bread? Yeah, bro. To expensive school.

Yeah, I mean, this is the cafeteria. It's a cheese bread. Yeah, bro. No, this pizza. It was like for French bread. Yeah, bro. Pizza. For French bread. Pizza things. Yeah.

Yeah. Did you figure it out, Doug? Well, I see that Taco Bell did supply burritos just from schools. Yeah. This was back in 1993, this article. Well, that, well, it was 96, 319. So, yeah. So, maybe it was the leftovers from 93?

Yeah, maybe. Maybe. The Bork kids got in 96. It was the cheapest, dude. That was the cheapest option. That's why everybody got like, it was the leftovers from 93. Yeah, maybe. Maybe. The poor kids got in 96. It was the cheapest dude. That was the cheapest option. That's why everybody got like, it was brought to your high school in 93. It was my school got you in 96.

What did you sell? Yeah, I've given it to send these to the poor kids. Yes, they won't know the difference. Just freeze it. It's fine. To be clear on the Chalupa thing, it is a Mexican tradition. It is?

Yeah. It's basically just tradition. It is? Where? It's basically just mosa or corn dough in like a boat shape, like a taco shape. Oh my God. It's a real thing. Thank you for pointing out. I feel like it's a idiot. How about the chimichanga?

Chimichanga haven't had a lot of those. Is that a real Mexican food? I wouldn't be surprised if that was out of town. The Mexican pizza was the best thing to talk about. Oh my God, what are you doing? Mexican pizza was good. So by the way, going back to the McDonald's thing, it looks like they did that because of health reasons. Not because they were sued. Health. Yeah. I'm here. I'm here. I'm here. Health reasons. I'm sure. Health reasons.

Because of the trans, I mean, because of the saturated fat. So they replaced with trans fat. They, yeah, they replaced with trans trans fat They since twice changed their formulation Transgenders we know No more no more the trans fat is fat that identifies anyway After they made after they made that switch to the the new fat the new oil Their stock went way down. Oh, it did. Yeah, yeah.

Because people like the old cars. Did I tell you guys, I had a bunch of McDonald's, like four weeks ago? Really? Yeah, so we had a handful of times you mentioned this in the podcast. It has started to believe that you have a little bit of a McDonald's fiction.

No, no, no, no. We had a bunch of kids over to make cookies, Christmas cookies, so we had all the my cousins, and all the brother came in right to the other side. And then I'm like, Christmas cookies, so we had all the my cousins. Oh yeah, I'm not gonna be that. I'm gonna be the one. And then I'm like, oh crap, we should get food for everybody. And it's a bunch of little kids, and I don't want to deal with like,

when you want, when you're like, I'm gonna poison them with donuts. I just ordered a big ass thing, a chicken nuggets, bro. Chicken nuggets and a big ass thing of fries. So I had a few of them, okay. And immediately I could feel the depression. Like I ate it and I felt like, oh, I'm gonna do my little kids McDonald's. How's that different than the mom Okay, and immediately I could feel the depression like I ate it and I felt like

Kids McDonald's house had different than the mom giving the six-year-old laxatives Come on guy that one mom yeah, you guys will be poison to my kids yeah, it walks out all angry after you know putting frosting on the cookies Yeah, right cookie with frosting. That's that mom, do you guys ever go to a birthday party? Or instead of a chocolate cake, it was a carrot cake. Did you guys ever do that? Oh, carrot cake. Carrot is a terrible, terrible replacement for chocolate. For some reason, health people thought, this is very chocolate.

No, it's not. Look at carrot. Yeah, I've tried it before. So there was a period where people thought chocolate was bad for you. And so they obviously like everything, they come tried it before. So there was a period where people thought chocolate was bad for you. And so they obviously like everything, they come up with something. Piece of garbage.

This is probably really what. We're the tennis sugar anyways, right? Jimmy Chong is from Arizona, not Mexico. So there you go. Yeah. You know what I like about the free-hungus? I don't even hear you. Oh, he mentioned it in his past.

You know what I like about Jimmy Chong? You know what I like about American foods that are invented to sound like ethnic. The way they name them. I love that's such an American person going. What are we going to call this? They've been something that sells Spanish. Jimmy Changa. Yeah.

Okay. Okay, dude. What's the Italian version of that? I mean, you got Chef Borriardese creation. But that's not as actual. Do you know that? His real name is Bollardi. Bollardi. Yeah, they changed the spelling. I told you guys of that. I mean you got shift for your D's creation, but that's not as actual do you know that this real name is boy Bollyard the boyard D. Yeah, they changed the spelling. I tell you guys about that. Yeah, I want to find I want to hear about your

Incredible experience of the D. You don't want to yeah, I do bro. How now are they are they have they come up to 1990 standards they still behind what's going on? I so I bought a car. Oh That's what you don't register it. Yeah, and if you you had to get on there? I registered it. Yeah. And if you don't register in a certain amount of time, like you get like all these like fines. And of course. And not only that, apparently you have to drive it there

so they inspect it. So you get to drove it there? You need a cop. You need a cop friend, bro. Yeah. A cop can come to your house and actually do all that stuff. So if you have a yes, you have a friend. That's why I had just done. Remember when I told you, friend, bro. Yeah, a cop can come to your house and actually do all that stuff. So if you have a yes, you have a for that's why I had just done. Remember when I told you, yeah, yeah, well, I do need a cop friend.

Yeah, yeah, that I didn't have to go to DMV at all. You know what your problem is? You know your problem is your lone ranger. You never ask anybody. That's right. He has a cop friend for you. I just wore this because I knew I'd be crabby today. Yeah.

That was like you work because you beat crabs again. Good job. Congratulations. So, okay, so you because you beat crabs again. Good job, congratulations. So okay, so you went down there, you went down there to register the car. Yeah, without the car. Do you have problems? Yeah, did have problems, yeah. And it wasn't because of that.

I could have came back for that, but apparently, so I got it from a dealer who sent me the paperwork of the loan, all the stuff. And the guy didn't sign off a wet signature on this one form. This is like bureaucracy 101, dude. It's always like, and I'm like, I just knew it was gonna be some form or something

or some stamp or some person that's gonna give me a hassle. So I was just like expecting it. And of course, to no avail, like we can't process this because it doesn't have the wet signature from this. And so if I did that, you know, it would be invalid. And whatever, dude, I stopped listening. And I was like, okay, lady, what do I gotta do?

So she stamps it. I'm like, I just wanna avoid the fines. And so I have to write up some thing to try and plead the fact that I'm there. I'm on time, I'm doing my thing, but the dealer kind of screwed me because they didn't sign this thing and so that's where I'm at. Oh man, so is the waste of time.

Yeah, I'm 100% waste of time. It's always a waste of time. Wow, because it's not really a business. No, dude. It's just a thing. It's like a... If they prime a me, but I have to do a deal with it. I have to do a deal with it. The car was such a hassle.

It's such a pain in the ass, all the things you have to do. And you add, in fact, I don't know what you're dealing with right now with insurance. Like, insurance is a pain in the ass. Thankfully, like, because it's an older car, like, there was the grundy. It's, they cover a lot of these older cars that wasn't a hassle at all. Dude, dude. The reason why it's such a pain in the ass, the reason why when you go to the grundy, they cover a lot of these older cars that wasn't hassled all. Dude, the reason why it's such a pain in the ass, the reason why when you go to the DMV and everything looks like it's from 1995

and everybody's slow as hell and it's redundant as hell, the reason is because they don't go out of business. There's no competition. They don't go out of business. They can't go out of business. Imagine if we, if we were the only fitness podcast that existed, we would suck. We wouldn't, we wouldn't, we wouldn't, we wouldn't, we wouldn't fitness podcast that existed, we would suck.

We wouldn't do anything. You don't have to try, that's the thing. I always like, and so I didn't have my earphones or anything normally I would do that to try and like, you know, have my own little space, but I didn't and some sitting there and then you'd listen to all these conversations people are having and like, how pissed off everybody is

about like, well you guys didn't notify me I'm here. I got all this you know just like this guy's raging with this lady who chooses to work at the DMV I would eat that because I don't want to do I just like that's like dude not that's I don't think any kid group I want to yeah work at the DMV when I get older so the the first person you meet can barely speak English when I'm getting in there too. And I'm like, what? You don't have, I'm sorry, but your first person, your interaction you're meeting with to direct you around.

I'm like, this is a problem. Yeah. It's a cluster. It's a cluster. So that's what I had. It's infuriating to me. It's infuriating to me. It's infuriating to me.

It's like you almost want to get the car back. It gets so much worse. Fuck, and keep the goddamn car up. I'm going to be a leader. I don't even It's a furious. It's almost like you get the car back. It gets so much. Fucking keep the goddamn car up. I'm gonna be a lead if you want this thing anymore. It's gas. You know, they don't like gas here, you know. Oh, yeah. Like, yes.

It's a cool gas. This is a gas car. Yeah. Wait, you had to mark that thing. Well, they almost tried to make me smog. Even though it's like 60s, you know, I'm like, no, no, no, no, no. Like, it doesn't need to be smog because it's an older vehicle

You're like well, yeah, they want to know the they want to know the engine know everything They're real invasive these days. Yeah, California rocks. This was America Never watched that really American you never watch that old old video is like night It was like 1980 I think they filmed it and it was a town in Texas, okay? That had just passed the drunk driving law. It's the funniest video you've ever seen alive. So they're interviewing people who are driving, and it's all like, I see you driving home from work,

and they just passed the law. This is on American. You know, it's one I have a beer after work, and chill out. Yeah, this guy's like, drop myself home. It worked so hard. I just wanted crack open a beer on the way home.

What the hell is the problem? I thought this was America. I was fucking dying. Yeah. Do you the way home with the hell's the price. I thought this was America. I'm fucking dying Do you speak of it? Dude, I saw this crazy video. I guess there's a place. I don't know if it's in New Zealand or somewhere else I don't think it's America, but there was like this stunt where they had dogs driving cars like they literally teach dogs the drive Cars and they have it all set up so So the pedals and everything in the shift, like the dogs doing all the things and turning.

And I'm like, this is crazy, but then it started to make sense because they were doing this all to like, for adoption, for dogs. You get you to adopt the dog. Yeah, it's like, oh, this dog is capable of so much. You just teach him. There's my designated driver.

Yeah. Yeah. I always wanted to do that. I could do that. You could get pulled over, you're like, oh, this dog is capable of so much. If you just teach him, there's my designated driver. Yeah. Yeah. I always wanted to do that. You could just get pulled over, you're like, yeah. Yeah, it's this guy. This guy was driving me. He's all over the place. That's his beer.

Yeah, he saw Squirrel, dude. I, you know, just goes after him. He sees a cat, right? Rrrr, R-Jace. We'll put that in video. I'm not even joking. This is a real thing. Wow, dude, dogs, you know, you know, dog, I think was We'll put that video. I'm not even joking. This is a real thing. Wow, dude dogs. You know, you know dog

I think was it a dog that was the first and like organic like you know Good to space right was a dog dog or monkey. He was a monkey. He was a dog was the first. Let's know as a chimpanzee I thought the Soviet Soviet Soviet sent up a dog. I thought it was a chimpanzee That's why the whole planet the AIDS movie was all made based around that. No, it wasn't made It was something to do with that and that and that would think so, but I know that It is a dog's but make it wow, yeah Make up for you being wrong. I'm not gonna Just can't see your chalupa

This is cancel the chalupa He's just kissing the chalupa. It's just kissing the chalupa. It's a red zero dog. You're, hey, was that dog thinking too, by the way, like you get's in there, like, oh, he's looking at everybody. All right, guys. Oh, shit.

Woo, woo, woo, woo. Yeah. I don't think you made it back alive though. Right? I don't think so. Oh, really? Yeah, I think they just got him up there. And then that's a dark. That's fucked.

Well, I mean, this is this is before Pita that all over their ass for sure. Yeah, Pita. Well, we got him there. Yeah is before Pito would have been all over their ass for sure. Yeah, Pita. Well, we got them there. Yeah, said Pita, I Pito duck. I think it's a Pita. No, I did not say Pito. Did you guys send all the Pitos out the space?

Yeah, you said it's a kid's up there. Shoot them all out there. Wow. Are you guys all? So what's everybody got for Christmas Day? Who's are you with a big family group? Are you with a big family group? But is Chris, oh, you do?

We're doing Christmas Eve alone. Um, because, you know, we want to have a nice intimate setting. a big family group, are you with a big family group? Or do you do? We're doing Christmas Eve alone, because we want to have a nice intimate setting. This is like one of the compromised things that we do, because all our events are with my massive. Yeah, I'm about to ask you that. What traditional things around the holidays have changed for you since you have Jessica now? What is your compromise on that so help?

Well, that's it. The talk of Katrina. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's it. We're doing Christmas Eve alone. And you normally wouldn't. Oh, never. Oh, okay.

Never in my life have I done a big holiday like that without being with everybody. And then, good day Christmas. Day. Christmas day we're going over. Okay. So what would you normally do on Christmas Eve? What's it look like?

Family too. I mean, oh, but what? You just all get together and how we all get together. And it used to be this way, although with little kids, now everybody's changed it, but it used to be we'd all get together and go past midnight, open gifts at midnight, and then go home and come back the next day. Those are your sort of Katrina's. They all spend the night together the same. That's yeah, that's next level, bro. Yeah, we don't know. But it's literally that. They literally stay up, like, say, so Christmas Eve everybody stays up, lay, playing games, drinking, and then they would do white elephant at midnight.

Wow. And then the kids, you normally get to open one present, and then, you know, by one, two in the morning, they start calming down and then go to bed for a week of at six. I don't think I've ever shared this, but here's something that's changed for me. It has nothing to do with their families.

I never liked Christmas. I know. Really? No. No our families. I never liked Christmas. I know. Really? No. No. Interesting. I never liked Thanksgiving. You like Thanksgiving. Thanksgiving when my favorite holiday. I didn't like Christmas because as a kid I like Christmas, right? But then as I was growing up, I, especially when I was athiast, right? I viewed the whole thing as like this commercial. Like you go to the mall, it's packed. You were trying to find parking. But an angry, atheist-weight, 100%.

100%. You're gonna associate the mall with it? 100%. I'm like, oh, you're obligated to buy presents. It's not really gift-giving. If you're obligated. I don't know. It's all crazy busy.

Like everywhere I go, go to the mall, it's packed. Everybody's acting, whatever, the sucks. You know, the weather, I don't like the weather. So I just, everything I like, I just didn't like the season of Christmas, never did. Jessica is like, elf. Okay. Christmas to her is the greatest time of the year.

Everything. Music, she'll play music in the house, that's Christmas music, she'll like Christmas candles, she'll decorate everything, she'll make Christmas food. It's just like she just lights up. She loves going to the mall. I hate to go in the mall. So gradually, you know, I kind of developed this better experience around it and I really started to like it even before I became Christian. Oh interesting. Yeah, so that's something that changed. Yeah, that is that's what you like it. What do you what will you do? Oh for Christmas and Christie's we do That's what you do. Oh, for Christmas and Christie's, we do. We'll go to a service on Christmas Eve with

We're going to see you guys. Oh, good. Yeah, I was going to see Yeah, cuz I know great show to I know I'd be with you guys, but we'll be at the we have tickets to the Enchantment thing. We did that. Oh, yeah, that's all the lights over there. Yeah, we bought tickets Specifically on Christmas Eve and I already had that or also I would be joining you guys. It's pretty fun. Yeah, we bought tickets specifically on Christmas Eve and I already had that or also it would be joining you guys pretty fun Yeah, you know what your favorite your son's favorite part is gonna be all the lights. No, what the same thing that my son's favorite part is as you're walking in There's hella vendor selling cheap toys Cheap light of boys He's pretty he's pretty, next to the decor.

He's definitely like, like anytime we come, every day we come home from school, he always wants me to drive around the narrow, but I'm like the lights aren't even on yet. He's supposed to see it. You know what's good over on there? There's the same, there's vendors outside leading in, so you walk down a sidewalk,

hella vendor selling hella toys, they're cheap or whatever. And they also have hot dog vendors that are making like amazing hot dogs. They can wrap and they'll put onion, hold it, it's really good. Oh wow. Yeah, cause we were just there last week.

Oh yes we were. Yeah, I know. So I haven't gone. So I didn't go last year, cause the tickets sell out fast. Yes, they did. They get me advanced. So we got them way in advance

so we could do it specifically on Christmassy with the whole family. So I'm gonna go to that church service that you're going to. Yeah. Have you been to it? Yeah, I've been so good. We've been so good.

So you go with just your immediate family or does your parents? And who else? Just Courtney's family, typically we'll do that and we'll share Christmas Eve with her side. And then we do my family the next day. And so we go to church service, we go back. And then we have this kind of like, it's like our derves and stuff and then we we open up a presence with the cousins Yeah, and so it's like a few there and then after that like we go watch a movie at my house and then like everybody was bad

We wake up in the morning do our own thing with my family like just the kids in Courtney and then probably like mid afternoon Like my parents and then my brother and everybody. When do the kids, when do your boys open their presence from you guys? Like first thing in the morning. Just you guys. Just us. So that's what will be different this year

for Katrina and I, is that, I think you're in Santa. Where do you wake up and see this? Yeah, and it'll just be, just the presence that are for him from basically Katrina and I and Santa Claus and our up and sees it. Yeah, it'll just be, just the presents that are for him from basically Katrina and I and Santa Claus and our family, my family, we will open ourselves.

Here's your stockings too. Yeah, yeah, we have style. Here's a question, half free guys. When I was a kid, we're just not like stockings. Really? Yeah, and I'm like, those are the easiest.

I love it. Yeah, I don't know why. I like like finding little things. Can't deal with things. Yeah, she's like, so by less. I love it. Yeah, I don't know why. I like finding little things. Can't deal with things. Yeah, she's like, so by less. I love, I love. You guys are like, you guys are totally like, here's what I want for Christmas by it for me.

Me? Not you. No, no, she's like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. This is conflict. Yeah, that's a sign you suck at. That's what that is. Here, you're terrible at this. Let me help you

No, dude, it's analytical brain It's like I can't I don't listen So I don't listen to you. Yeah, I listen, but it took me a lot It took me a really really long time to get good at this and I don't even want to say I'm a master right now, but I've gotten pretty good at like, throughout the year, I have, I literally have. You write it down. Yeah.

Or you pay attention. Like, ooh, I like this. And then you know, honey, I like, yeah. That was like, oh, in September, I paid attention. So when I was a kid and I got up with Santa's gifts, they were never wrapped or in a box. They were out. So my parents would take or in a box, they were out. So my parents would take whatever gift it was,

take it out of the box. Now the reasoning was, it looked more real, like an alphabet. Yeah, yeah. Okay. Jessica's family actually wraps Santa's gift. So we, so okay, we do it. So I didn't do it that way.

So I grew up that way also where like, it was so there was always every year We had like Traditionally we had one big gift and then everything was like Nick neck shit after that And the one big gift came from Santa and it was unwrapped normally I think I had less to do it was normally like a bike a desk like what else did I get like I remember things like that Yeah, and so yeah my dad in the middle of the night would probably would put it together And it would be out just right in front of the tree when you came out. Which by the way, that was my big thing with Katrina. It's like, like, and it's, I'm glad we're

starting it now because he's not quite at that age where he's got a thing that he's wanting all your like, I'm excited for when that happens, right? When there's a thing that he wants, that he's been asking for for months and I go, well, your mom and dad aren't going to get that, but maybe Santa will bring it, maybe Santa will bring it. And there's that suspense wants, that he's been asking for for months and I go, well, your mom and dad aren't gonna get that, but maybe Santa will bring it, maybe Santa will bring it. And there's that suspense of maybe he will. And then I can have it all out. And then I can video him coming in and be like, you know, surprised that he left it.

So that's real, I'm looking forward to that. He's not quite at a thing where he obsesses about a thing yet. He likes all stuff. A real thing. My three year old has been obsessing. Obsessing since we came to your house over the garbage truck toy. Obsessing.

That's what he wants from Santa. That's all he wants from Santa. Did you guys get it? Yeah, okay. All he talks about is what it does, how you can put garbage in it. He talks about it, tells me stories about it. You know, the back you can put garbage in it.

And you can take garbage out. And you can drive it around. I was really into trash and all that like that was like their thing when there's age top love that they run outside trash that's Chris they called people trash that's our that's my buddy that's Chris the GB son who's the same age as as our kids right he's got a little one that's four that he every I think it's Friday,

when their trash guy comes, like he's, like his son, like, yeah. Yeah, yeah. You know, and they got to run, he's got to stand out there and to slip or something. Oh, it's a really it's watching him watching him. It's bad. Yeah, I know what's fine to start off when you guys were talking about all that.

Like, it's the Santa thing. Like, so when I was growing up, like, Santa gave me this gift, but it's like something my brother already owned. Whoa. Like this is bullshit Santa. Your parents gave you hand, yeah, as a Santa gift.

What the fuck? No, they did it. Yes, it's, I'm like, why is Santa, it's a toy that she faster, it's all extra to the knife, and it's a scratch to that, dude. I'm very why is Santa? It's a toy that she bachelors. It's all extra to the knife. It's like, I just thought of that. It's like, I'm married so mad.

It looks like, that looks like this big wheel. Why is it like, what's in this like Brandon's like, I just stood right there. Come on, Santa. Santa, do better. Why's the big wheel tire look like a war? What the fuck? I'm so angry about that.

I want a big wheel so bad. Is it a adult? Do you guys write a big wheel right now? Didn't they try and bring them back? Is there a company that is making them again? For adults? Well, I think they are. I have fond memories of the car.

Settle on. Because the tires were power-slide. Power-slide. You got no big wheels. The big wheels are the best. And if you pedal fast enough, it didn't get stuck in it. You really made those for adults for a minute. That's why I was just saying I think I think I think I thought I saw a company that was me. Did you guys have the That's you like those are good out of here. How much is that?

Oh 136 bucks. There's no way you can't have a kid. That's for kids. Why the what the fuck was a big wheel? Wow, look at that. That's like DOG ones right there. Look at you can adjust the seats, like three level. Yeah, that's what it goes. So I had, you know what kind of big wheel I had? I had, might write a big wheel. Oh yeah. So the front of it had the seat right.

Yeah, this it was a kid. Yeah, this it was a car. No, it was a devil's ass. Yeah, it was a weird ride. I don't think I've seen a kid ride in those't think I see a kid riding those a lot of that one You did my huffy off look a look up 1980s Night writer big wheel please please this is gonna give me such memory See this is something I would have done because you that's a big nostalgic thing for you should have bought that for

Really is for Christmas you can find one I guarantee you know on Amazon My kids are too old for this now. Oh my God, that's it right there. See the visor on the top. Oh, sick. Guarantee you can find someone selling that. All right, so you see in the back, click on that picture. You see on the back the red thing, you pull a handle

in a little break, came down and you would slide, bro. Yeah, the power slide, dude. You would pull it up and you'd be able to slide. Oh, I had such fun memories of that. Man, I don't remember that one. That's great. That's because yeah, that's so good. It was so fun. I wrote that thing. I was saving you a buy one, Doug. Yeah. Okay. I bombed down. Now you got anything better to do. Come on. Yeah. Hey, let's let's let's have a race with those. We'll all drive around. I said, I didn't think so.

Why you're looking for that, Doug, you, what, are you, are you gonna have to see Adam? No, I'm staying here. You just you and Bree? Yeah, well, so I like to stay just close to home for Christmas. I don't like to travel. Yeah. And so yeah, Bree's gonna stay with me for Christmas Eve.

Then we get up in the morning, you know, we sleep in, she gets her stocking we start with that I take a picture of everything she takes out of everything. Yeah, and I have like a whole collection of photos from years past That's great. And then she opens her presence. Yeah, everyone wrapped. I've never put out presence not wrapped I always thought it was fun to unwrap presence and what point did she stop believing in Santa? How long did you keep that going, do you remember? I think she was 12 actually. I kept it going for a very long time

but then she also indicated that she kind of thought she knew but she was just playing along with it. Yeah, that's where I was at. You know, maybe he was younger than 12. It's like I knew at eight but she's like I kept it going because Santa always kept it. Well, hey, that's the value of being the oldest. I was the oldest of four.

I got Santa Gis for a long last time. Yeah. Because for the kid, for the little one. Yeah, to keep it going. I mean, I want to perpetuate that for the the oldest. I was the oldest of four. I got Santa Gis for a long last time. Yeah. For the little one. Yeah, to keep it going. I mean, I want to perpetuate that for the longest time. I was so great. Yeah, yeah. For kids.

Even though it is a deception. You know? You have to take a lot. You have to take a lot. You have to take a lot. So what did you, are you guys doing one alone then? Or are you doing one?

I mean, not really. It's like literally like going to be in our room, right? So like everyone's at my house. So we're ho- Hold on, hold on, hold on. Yeah. So the compromise was that we get to stay in the room in our room.

Well, everybody's outside. Yeah. Oh, I feel like you lost that. I guess I did. Please speak to the camera. Please speak to the camera. I'm a little bit pressure. You know, this is not much of a compromise.

This is like, for you, here you go, guy. This is who, Here you go guy There you go, you know my couple presents in your room Did she come up to you guys done yet? Honey, you know what we could do honey. I got some for you Yeah, yeah, why don't we just stay in the bedroom? Yeah, and that's it. Yeah, you know why you know what I get it now I understand what's happened. This is why she puts up with your shit because you do this for Christmas for her

Yeah, yeah, and every other holiday And twice a week throughout the week through a year Why should you put some of your shit because you do this for Christmas for her? Yeah, see? Yeah. And every other holiday. And twice a week, throughout the week, throughout the year. No, what do you do? Well, they do a lot of family stuff. Yeah. I mean, it's a lot of it's grown on me, too. Are you trying to do, do you want to do one of those days?

Where's just you guys? So like your dream? You know, perfect. So what we will do next year. So that I'm this year is not the greatest compromise for me. Yeah. But next year, the way it will look is on Chris Maseve, they were, like, let's say it's gonna be at her mom's house next year probably, which is probably what will happen. Normally Katrina and Max would spend the night there with everybody all over the floor

of that, they will come home with me. We will spend all day drinking and having fun. We'll go home. Chris late, Christmas Eve night. I don't care how late. We'll come and wake up in our beds with nobody there and we will open presents for Max. And then, then we'll go over there.

So 10-11. And that's perfectly reasonable. That's all I need. To me, it's like, that's all I want is, because all I want is that exact, that memory of when my son really starts to get into specific gifts, is that suspense of, did I get it or not?

I get that. And I don't want it with 30 other people. I like want to be there for that moment. And if I want that moment to last 30 minutes, I want it to last that long. I don't want to feel like, oh, the next 15 people need to open their present. So hope you like that son.

Let's go next kid. You know what I'm saying? I don't want to do that. No, I get it. And I feel like that's a fair compromise because we're still gonna go do all the other stuff. No, that's super fair. So that's what it's gonna look like.

It just so happened to be that we had already committed to everybody hosting at our house this year. So it's kind of, what am I gonna do, tell everybody? We're hosting, you all need to leave. You know what I'm saying, hotel? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, you know what I'm saying?

You can't see guys later. So it's like, okay, this is the? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? You guys later, that's like, okay, this is the first year that we had this rule, like, you know, hard conversation around what the, what the compromise or what the future of the holidays, you know, look like for us. And it's like, oh, it just happened to be on the one where we're hosting. So it makes it a little more challenging,

but going forward when it's at other people's houses, it'll be easier. Dude, look, how much the Knight Rider big wheel is? 450. 450 dollars. Yeah. Cause it's at other people's houses, it'll be easier. Dude, look, how much the Knight Rider big wheel is? 450. 450 dollars. Yeah, just like collect it. So here's what trips me out. Who kept that like that? A psychopath.

How do you not write a little geek? Yeah, dude. There's definitely more like that. Don't you think that's interesting? Like some people like they just- My toy and not dude. Do I ever tell you I want to open it? Look up, I love to see the prices on this now.

I went to high school with this kid, okay. He was actually one of my first friends in high school when I was a freshman when I first got to this new school. His name was Marcio. And he had, under his bed, he had like, I want to say from the 70s or 80s, whenever they really started, maybe I'm the, the day's wrong,

but when they first started doing the toys and the McDonald's He's got he had every single one and he had them still in the plastic so he'd never even opened them and he had them in this big Million or no, I want to see what they're worth. I think they're worth really good But they were worth money back then in high school and he was he was collecting them and he'd never stopped collecting Which one guess right now? let's all take a guess, which one do you think is worst the most money? It'll be things like, like the first when Batman was released, it'll be things when, when a,

You know which one I know will be worth the least amount of money? What? Grimiss. Grimiss. Dumbest, stupidest. Purple monster. Yeah, dude. What is Grimiss?

Yeah, I don't know if I like the burnt. The collaborations I think are the ones that will be the most valuable is when they collaborated with like a, like a, you know, a famous movie or whatever or see how Doug did on Google in here. I don't think we can find any prices there. No, they definitely have. I know I've seen it before, just Doug's not the best.

Do you know what's, what was the other ones? There was like a, I'll tell you what's going on. Come on Andrew, let's go. Step up your game. I'll tell you what's, so the most valuable or hot wheels

And then 101 Dalmatians. You have some prices Andrew hot wheels. What was it exactly you're looking for? McDonald's toys happy meal toys happy meal toys. How much how much How much are McDonald's happy mill toys worth what the full set of the hot wheel cars is around $875 oh, oh just 75,000 So just for the cars. I mean, he had hundreds of these things. It's probably got thousands. Do you know what's worth a lot of money?

I'll tell you what toys worth a lot of money. I know this guy looked it up. It was Castle Grace School. Castle Grace School in Pristine, Kansas. Oh, it's like thousands of dollars. Oh yeah. Yeah, dude. I told you what I, so what I'm doing with Max now, right?

So when I buy him, so when the Mario movie came out, because he's in the Mario right now, yeah. They made like a, the Nintendo, Mario, Bowser, and like set, like, so I bought him that for his birthday, but I bought a second one and I actually put it away. So it's in the box still, I did this because of this type of shit. Yeah.

So if it's like a piece and I'm like, oh, that's probably going to be a collector that I buy him. I'm trying to imagine he grows up and he's like, oh, dad, I'm 18. You know, my friends dad had these like investment accounts for him. And I'm like, here you go. You're like, I'm glad you asked Sonny. Yeah. It's the way.

Okay. Here's what my, my thought on it was this is that even if they don't end up being super valuable, it'll be neat to be able to be like, this like your first battle. Yeah, so I think at the very least. Oh, over a thousand dollars for Castle Grace School brand new. So you never got to the bottom of some of these these McDonald's toys, huh? I found some right here. Okay, thank you. There's I know they're going to be selling on eBay. So there's a bunch that are listed for thousands, hundreds of thousands, but the ones that are actually sold like vintage, once you can see right here, vintage dukes of hazard. That's a hell.

That's a great hundred. Oh, great. 1990 Super Mario Bros. Happy meal for 600. See? Yeah, yeah, 400, 600. More vintage. So that's what my buddies would like that.

He had all those like that. He was a lot of 80s and 90s. Wow. This is just awesome. Wow. Dukes of hazard would have been great to have. And is that interesting, huh? I mean, I thought the thing to have,

this is in the early 90s, like so. This is like 96, right? Yeah. Any of the joy of pulling this. To think to keep those is okay. How much is a child's happiness worth though? You know what I mean, Justin? Yeah.

Apparently you can play with a couple hundred bucks. So you can sell it for 500 bucks, you know, 24 years later. Yeah. You know what I mean? Or you can sell it for 500 bucks, you know 24 years later A couple of days a hard like I get old ladies that used to put plastic other for a trail type your kids like oh Yeah, just say no way they're joined This will cover my therapy for the next month That you're playing with them will they get all the plastic all over them? Daddy just don't touch on pretend it like it's muffled.

I'm okay with it. Yeah. So, a man-to-man month through, with some action figures I had, did. Your mom ever like clean shop? Yes, she did. You know what she threw away? Oh, my muscle magazines.

Wow. I had so many muscle and fitness, Iron Man, Flex Magazine, Muscle Media 2000. I had all of them probably from 1990 To What day is this episode go live? What's the date January 4th? So we have so basically a little more than a week before we have the big three day training. Yes, for trainers.

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What are the unique benefits of each? I mean, it's not detrimental, but it is a very different exercise. First off, the weight is loaded lower on the body, so it changes the length of the lever, so the core activation is going to be different. It involves some rounded back kind of lifting, so there's probably more back activation with the zircher. Front squat, I think is very valuable. It's a very upright squat. It's the quads a little bit more, different core stimulation. I don't think one can replace the other if that's what the question is. They're both valuable, though. Yes, I mean, to the most extent, too. And I would say, too, with some athletes, I'm

going to have used, with those issues with risks or in that regard, in terms of the mobility of getting the bar to stay there. I mean, obviously, you can fold your arms and you can do that variation for front-loaded squats. But the zircher does provide a lot more like core specific work, which I like. And it's just it's a valuable exercise on its own. So I definitely program that in wherever I can. The only the only place I see them being interchangeable or similar or it's like, oh, you

know, if you did that one forever and you never did this one, it wouldn't be that big of a deal, is if you were only looking at it purely from a leg development exercise. So if that, and that's the only way. It's a novelty, right? You've been for a long time. Yeah, yeah. So that to me, like, so, from a body building perspective,

I could see this question, right? Like, you know, hey, I'm, all I do is searchers squats, but I never do front squats, and we're gonna be okay developing my legs. Like, okay, sure, you know what I'm saying? If you're doing back squats and bowgarrons and you're doing all these other things

and you just choose to always do searchers and never do fronts or vice versa. But when you talk about functional or like overall what you're doing, like there's more going on in those two movements than just leg development. So I think that's where questions like these come up is it's like, we tend to like try it, we want to. Yeah, isolate the body part.

Yeah, isolate to a body part and be like, well, is it really that much different than a front squat for the legs? It's like, well, yeah, okay, for the leg development, not that big of a difference for your quads. Like, it's not gonna make a huge difference. I think a zircher is gonna be more upper body than a front squat, it's gonna be more lower body. It's really if you wanna break it down. But you know what's interesting about zircher is gonna be more upper body and a front squat is gonna be more lower body.

It's really if you wanna break it down. But you know what's interesting about zirchers? Nobody was doing them, we're talking about them for a long time. Zirchers were not even mentioned. Well that's uncomfortable. It's uncomfortable. We started talking about it,

we put it in some of our program app strong, we put it map strong. I feel like we did make it popular. And I swear to God. You know what? You know why? Okay, here's why. I was doing them back in the day for sure.

But well, I think people started doing them and then noticing, well, if they get past the discomfort and get used to doing them, they started to notice some developmental benefits and some strength benefits. Like I like zircher squats for grapplers a lot. I think if you're, I mean, in fact, if you look at old, there's old Soviet era videos

of wrestlers, Greco-Roman wrestlers, and they're doing a lot of zircher position exercises, like Jefferson curls holding the zircher position, squatting, because it more closely mimics holding an opponent. So for grapplers, that's one of my favorite squats. And so? Yeah, it's very functional. I mean, anything too, with a little bit of a rounded back,

sort of position like that. And upper back, let's be clear, right? Upper back. Oh, lower back. Not lower, rounded upper back. Yeah, I mean, but what you're gonna encounter in the real world in terms of load, to get things more centrically loaded, for me, has always been something that I want to incorporate in my training, because

that's more likely I'm going to encounter that. 100% if you're going to hold something and like hug it and pick it up and squat down. I mean, that's a searcher squat or a searcher deadlift. And a front squat doesn't mimic that. But for pure leg development, I'd say a front squat. You know, if you had to pick one, yeah, for just the lower body. To the quad, yeah. That's why like questions like these are incomplete

without hearing what the desired outcome of the client, right? If the client was asking me, you know, could I do just one of these and then I, okay, what's your overall goal? If you just want to be, if you want to be functionally strong in the real world, and you're looking for overall health in both,

or the researcher for sure, if you have more of a body builder focus, it's like I'm trying to develop my legs and sometimes I do zircher, sometimes I do front squats, could I just eliminate one or the other and if I were to, which one's better, well, okay, I think front squats, you're going to get to a place where you could load the front squat more than you're going to be able to do the zircher. And so for leg development, it makes sense for that. So it does matter the context of this question for sure. Next question is from Peck youth.

Boking is a chore. Is there any natural means of increasing appetite? This is where, now, for people who have a challenge with losing weight, when they hear a question like this, I'm sure that it annoys them, right? Because they're always struggling to not overeat. But for people with fast metabolism, so we have a tough time gaining weight, this could be a real challenge.

This was me growing up. I mean, it felt like no matter how much I ate, it didn't matter, and the scale wouldn't go up. I wouldn't gain any muscle, no matter how much I lift their weights and all that stuff. So I get this. So here's where two things really become valuable. One, drinking calories becomes very valuable

when this is you, if you're bulking and you're having trouble getting enough calories to bulk, to be in a surplus, adding shakes in between meals or with meals or drinking milk instead of water, like very, very valuable. Number two, hyper-palatable foods that we tend to avoid because most people are trying to lose weight,

that's when these can become very valuable. So you're at the end of the day, like oh my god, I need to eat another 800 calories and I'm just, I really don't feel like anything. Think of something you crave and then that might be the food that you actually go out. So it might be burger and fries. That's what you're reminded of.

That one, I don reminded of that one. I don't know if it was a challenge. Yeah, it was a challenge where they're trying to eat ice cream out of a sink. And it's like, in the only way that because of the palate fatigue, they added in salty fries, I believe. Yeah. So that if you go back to it.

So it's almost like, if you're in that kind of predicament, yes, using some of those tactics in terms of like you're changing the palette up a bit too to shift into that to keep consuming my health. So this was something that plagued me in my teens and early 20s. I mean, I just, I struggled so much with eating enough food to, to, to, to bulk and to put size on. Two of the, the biggest hacks.

One was easily digestible foods. Yeah. So like, Oh, yeah, because otherwise you get bloated. oatmeal, rice, and meats. And this was the other thing was those easily digestible foods tend to be healthier foods. I, what, what I was doing wrong was I'd have these, you know,

quiz nose or togo sandwiches and chips. And I would be, I'd eat these really heavy lunches and meals and it would fill me up for hours and I would justify it because it was high calorie. But then what it ended up doing was it took so long for my body to digest that, break that down, utilize it that it would be four hours before I could even think about eating another food. When I was making things like chicken thighs and with sweet potato or rice, man I'd eat that and I'd tell you what an hour and a half later I was ready things like chicken thighs and, or with sweet potato or rice, man, I'd eat that, and I'd tell you what, an hour and a half later,

I was ready to eat again. And so I was able to eat more frequently by eating a leaner, healthier, easier digestible foods. That was like a mind-blowing thing for me because trying to chase calories all the time, I was looking for high calorie foods, which tend to be these, you know, breads and pastas and heavier meals,

but then it takes a long time for my body to digest them and then I wouldn't be ready to eat again. So that was a massive hack. Hack number two was actually getting an early start on my calories. I was just gonna say this. This was a big one for me. So those two things, she slept in,

I know what happened to you, same thing happened to me. You'd sleep in on a weekend, you'd wake up, you'd get out of bed at 10.30, and now you're trying to eat your 4,000 calories. Forget about it. And what I found was, and this is why I love, one of my reasons why I was so excited when we partnered with MiloWon, right? Creatures of Habit was that oatmeal

is so easily digestible for me, and that one that has 30 grams of protein. So if I get up and I make myself eat that, say it's 6.30 or 7 in the morning, like right away, dude, an hour later, I want another meal. And so then my second meal, I'm eating like steak and eggs, or another like, like now I'm eating like a big breakfast. Now it's like 9.30, 10 in the morning.

I've already got 1,500 calories down and I'm at 80 grams of protein and it's not even new yet. And that just would set the table for my day. So though those things and for the last kind of hack and I've talked about this many times on the show when it came to bulky, it was clutch to turn my dinner from the night before into like a scramble for, and that would normally be my second meal. I love the oatmeal thing right away really early.

And then my second big breakfast was normally whatever I had for dinner, I would scramble it with some eggs and sprinkle some cheese on it. And now I'd have this massive high protein calorie second breakfast. And I'm already well over 1,000 to 1,500 calories to start my morning off already. Yeah, here's, check this out. So I'm looking this up right now, because this was another big one for me.

And I mentioned earlier, if you can have dairy drinking 12 ounces of milk with each meal, that's 220 calories each time. 660 calories automatically added. 12 grams of protein each time. You've automatically added 36 grams of protein from good old fashioned whole milk if you can have dairy. Next question is from Cody May Fit. You guys advocate for more straight sets with proper arrest, which I much prefer myself, but it seems difficult to achieve when it comes to training clients for only an hour.

When you trained, did you stick to straight sets or more of a one ABC to ABC circuit style? When I was a bad trainer, I did circuit style. When I became a good trainer, I stuck to straight sets. Yep. So spot on like this is and by the way, I stuck this free sets. Yep, you know, so spot on like this is, and by the way, I remember this thinking this way and being challenged, I gotta fit all these exercises in a workout. And by the way, this is just again, not to make this a commercial for our Maps 15 program,

but I way over complicated the amount of things I needed to do to my client to show them great results. Yeah. Later on in my career, I realized, wow, we could do two, maybe three really effective exercises with good rest periods in between straight sets and get incredible results for my clients. We had better results.

And instead, I felt like I needed to have 10 to 12 exercises in an hour, so my clients didn't feel like all we did was two or three things because I allowed that to dictate my programming because they were in my head. We only did two things today. It's like, yeah, but if those two things are far more effective than the eight other exercise you did, you're better off doing that. The two are concerned with entertaining them. Yeah. And like, you know, feeding into that expectation, the client has, but yeah, if you show them results, they're going to love you even more. And to like in between sets, where you educate, where you, you know, you add dialogue and all that other stuff to keep them engaged. And too, it's not going to take away from the experience. So as the experience, because they feel good after they don't feel like you just beat their crap out of them. They walk out and they're like, man, I feel energized. On average, with my clients, on average,

was it would be between two, two on the high end with the clients who've been working out for a while and could really keep up a good pace. And five, two to five exercises is on average what I would do with clients. In a session, when I was good, this is when clients stuck with me forever. We got great results, they love me,

they never skipped the workout. It was two to five in the early days. I was like 10, 10, 10, 10, 20. I was always trying to come up with weird ways. I went through a face just like this. I just were every, we would go over and it would be bench press, bicep curls, then shoulder presses. And it would be like, do that exercise, do that exercise,

do that exercise, rest, do that exercise, do that exercise, do that exercise, rest, do that exercise, do that exercise, do that rest. And then we move to another area. Oh, it would be a barbell back row, then it'd be a lot of rays. And it would be these three exercises. That way, at the end of the workout, I got 20 exercises in.

So ineffective. It was, it just, you know, and again, you'd be better off as a trainer, okay, with the average person, spending the entire hour, we're perfecting a squat. Yeah. Literally, perfecting a trainer, okay, with the average person, spending the entire hour, perfecting a squat. Yeah. Literally, perfecting a barbell squat,

and I had plenty of clients where that was the entire hour, where I was perfecting, gripping the bar, staying tight, okay, we're gonna start with this high box. Let's see how that feels. Okay, I notice a little deviation here.

Let's activate this muscle over here. Let's try again, lower box, by the end of the hour, we're doing full barbell squats with the barbell, and then they would leave, and they'd feel amazing. And this, again, this is when I was successful when clients didn't leave, because I had phenomenal results. Well, this speaks to your fitness tip

that you gave the other day about treating the exercises as a skill, and that, I learned this way too late. You get way more out of the movement when you focus on perfecting that one movement than you would be throwing four or five exercise on there. Which is funny that we don't see it that way because everybody who's ever played a sport knows that. Like you use the analogy I think with the Bruce Lee,

I think that was where the fitness tip came from. One, two, 10,000 times. Yeah, like, but we don't treat exercise like that, but it should be, and you should understand that you getting your client to increase their ability to connect in a squat by, say, 10% is far better than you teaching them 10 new random exercises. Like, you're way better off. You're not even teaching them. You know what happens when you do it the other way?

Is you're not teaching them exercise? You're just walking them through and getting them tired. You're way better off. You're not even teaching them. You know what happens when you do it the other way? Is you're not teaching them exercise? You're just walking them through and getting them tired. You're just burning calories. When I got really good, my clients, if they were with me for six months or a year, they could do all the good, basic barbell dumbbell exercises with good technique, good form, and good, and this is why many are not off, not all of them that I haven't trained for years now continue to work out. And if you're a trainer, so I understand too,

as you're developing, right? And as in your journey as a coach and as a trainer, learning to have this conversation or having the confidence to have this conversation is probably the biggest challenge, right? So okay, you hear us, you're like, okay, I believe it. It's like, God, how do I convey that? Clip this shit.

Like, I mean, this is stuff like that I always get frustrated with coaches and trainers that, okay, if you're early in your career, you don't feel like you have the confidence to convey that or articulate why you want them to do it. Certain way, utilize us as an authority in that situation. That's what I would do. If I was the two, two years as a trainer, that's it. And I'm, and I'm listening to this podcast of these three knuckleheads that I respect what they do. And I'm like a new guy and I'm like, man, I don't know how to explain it as good as Sal does. I'm just going to clip it and be like, hey, listen to this.

This is the reason why I only have you do the squat and overhead press and we don't do eight exercises for this reason. Listen, the easiest thing you can do, this will help, is set the expectation. If the client's expectation is that they're going to come in and be cycled through 15 different exercises and sweat and feel like they're going to puke and everything's going to burn, and you then go, you don't set the expectation, just take them to teach them how to squat. Yes, you're going to get some pushback. If you start the session and you say to them, Mrs. Robinson, today we're going to master,

we're going to practice mastering the most effective exercise for your lower body, the barbell squat. Today I'm going to teach you how to really activate and connect to the muscles that are required for this exercise. And the reason why I'm doing this is this exercise can give you such phenomenal results. So today we're going to just practice how to do this and I'm going to break it down into five different parts and we're going to practice all the different parts and hopefully by the end of our session, you'll be able to do a full squat.

If not, don't worry about it. We're going to continue to practice this so that you can get good at this amazing exercise. Now you set the expectation. Now when they start the session, it's not a problem. They know what they're going to do. Do you want to build muscle and strength? I just want to sweat. Next question is from hoop golf 89. What are your thoughts on the best gut health supplements?

So with gut health supplements, is there a generic answer for this? Yeah, there is. So you have to, there's kind of two categories of gut health supplements. Category one are general supplements that have been found to benefit the gut, help rebuild the gut,

wall or nourish the cell, the wall, or the mecosal lining. So something like probiotics, I see. Or probiotics, right? We know that there are beneficial bacteria that we've identified that seem to have wide-ranging beneficial effects that also seem to balance out the microbiome

by crowding out, let's say the bacteria that can cause negative things. There are things that help feed good bacteria that we know prebiotics, okay? So there's that category. Then there's a category of gut health supplements that are specific to what you need. If you have SIBO, you use these supplements.

If you have CFO, which is small intestinal, small intestine fungal overgrowth, there's these supplements, sometimes there's crossover. If you have issues with producing enough digestive acids or enzymes, then there's these supplements. So you have to know kind of what category you're looking to, but I'll talk more general because I can't talk specific, obviously,

isn't obvious, this is a general answer. And the number one thing you can do is take a high quality probiotic. And high quality probiotics have been shown to improve everything from skin to mental health effects. So they have anti-anxiety effects, antidepressant effects. They have positive effects on digestion and inflammation. So that'd be the first thing.

I think most people would benefit from a good high quality probiotic seed is by far the best. I have yet to meet any company or see any company that comes close to seed. Second would be consuming foods with beneficial fibers that feed healthy bacteria. So you want to have an adequate fiber intake in your diet.

And that's kind of it. I mean, you can look at like... Do you say digestive enzymes? Digestive enzymes can be in there that might help as well, the probiotics. I put them in fire. Yeah. That's what I meant by this is tough because it's not really a, is there really a generic? But you said it.

So a probiotic probably is the generic answer. Then the more specific answer is based off of what your issue is. 100% because you could have a lot of different things going on with your gut and based off of that, there then becomes better supplements to take. Yeah, like for example, some people, there's a lot of people that acid reflux

and the causes they're not producing enough of the digestive acids that are required. So you could supplement with what is the timing issue? What is the HCL pills? Yeah, HCL, hypercaloric acid. You could supplement with this. Apple cider vinegar.

Apple cider vinegar. Now, for some people, that's great. For other people, like me, that would make my gut go off. And that's why it's a little bit more specific to the person. Yeah, I mean, I tried that. And it turned out to not really work well for me too, because I had different issues. So, yeah, it is so individualized like that, but I would imagine that.

And like you said, just eating, you know, fibrous foods to move things kind of long and create its own. Yeah, I mean, this is also this is this also highlights to the value of going through this testing at least once. I mean, this is part of the reason with partnering with Dr. Cabral and his team is that and having that free forum for you guys to have access to is to get in there and is to communicate with that community and those doctors, it's free to you guys, you guys are followers of Mind Pomp to get in there and ask these type of questions,

but it's also worth the investment to get tested at least one time test. So you have an idea of what are the offenders and what are the best supplements? You know what, I'm gonna say one more thing because I'm just starting to learn about this. And this is a, I don't wanna say emerging theory because it's actually been around for a little while,

but I think it's getting more accepted. That the central nervous system plays such a big role in your gut health, that the reason why some people continue to have gut health issues has more to do with their central nervous system than it does with what's happening to gut. Now, the central nervous system, that can throw things off,

and then you can get things like SIBO reoccurring. But it's actually quite interesting. The effect nowoccurring. But it's actually quite interesting. The effect now, what's funny is it's actually quite obvious. We know this. When you get nervous or stressed out, gut issues pop up. Either indigestion, people say, oh my god, you're giving the indigestion or getting really anxious will give someone diarrhea, for example. So that's another category of potential supplements that you could look at.

Things that help balance out your central nervous system based on whatever your issue is. So I could see that category starting to emerge. There's like, such as Vagel, Pauli Vagel theory, which is really interesting. I'm just learning about something, I'm not going to comment on it. But if you have reoccurring gut issues, look that up. It's actually quite interesting. Look, if you love the show, head over to MindPumpFree.com and check out all of our free fitness guides.

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