Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 2277: The Five Best Sports for Kids

Episode Date: February 22, 2024

Why there is more to sports than just contributing to physical health. (1:36) The importance of physical play for human beings. (4:59) The skill of knowing how to win and lose. (8:45) The valu...e of learning when to lead and follow. (11:25) The nervous system needs stimulus! (15:38) The benefits of putting your child in multiple sports. (16:43) 5 Best Sports to Put Your Kids In. #1 - Swimming (before they can walk they can swim). (19:31) #2 - Gymnastics (for overall physical and motor development). (22:20) #3 - Wrestling (to build grit and toughness). (25:34) #4 - Track and field (we are made to run). (28:45) #5 - Soccer, basketball, or football (teamwork, eye-foot coordination). (31:49) Related Links/Products Mentioned Exclusively for Mind Pump Listeners, NASM is offering an extra $100 off select Certified Personal Trainer programs. ** Code MPM100 at checkout ** February Promotion: MAPS Performance | Extreme Fitness Bundle 50% off! ** Code FEB50 at checkout ** Mind Pump #952: Chad Wesley Smith Of Juggernaut Training Systems Infant Swimming: What Are the Benefits? - Healthline Mind Pump Podcast – YouTube Mind Pump Free Resources People Mentioned Chad Wesley Smith (@chadwesleysmith) Instagram

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Starting point is 00:01:19 back to the show. One of the best things you could do as a parent for your children is to put them in sports. Data shows it not only improves their physical health, but it also improves their mental and psychological health. In today's episode, we're going to talk about the five best sports that you can put your kids in. You know, it's another stat to look up, Doug, is the, I forget, there's a correlation with their GPA and also getting in trouble, like discipline. I forgot what the stat was, but it's significant. You know what's important about this episode of this topic is that there was a period. It's changed now.
Starting point is 00:01:59 It's reversing. But there was a period there where physical activity and sports was de-emphasized in fact they started cutting funding and reducing access to it because it was all about stem right science and math and you know that kind of stuff um and they were switching out the time like less time playing less time playing sports more time doing these other things that are quote-unquote more important and what we're finding now was it was a big mistake it was a major mistake because that and the arts that's gpa doug will show me also like crime and fighting and like like misbehaving
Starting point is 00:02:34 so gpa was what 2.7 yeah 2.7 was the average and then with playing sports it's over three yep yeah so there's that and by the way that's not way, 2.0 is the minimum, which is interesting, right? So most high school sports have a minimum of you have to carry a 2.0. But their average is much higher. Their average is higher anyways, right? So they're averaging over a 3.0 playing sports. But I've also seen more with misbehaving and crime and things like that too. Well, the data is... what's interesting about the data is for a long time we thought that sports for kids
Starting point is 00:03:08 was really just about being active. So we connected physical activity. Like, oh, they just got to, it's exercise. That's all it is. Regardless of what they play, it doesn't make a big difference unless they become a professional athlete. And so they just started reducing access to it
Starting point is 00:03:22 and cutting funding towards it. But what we're finding now is, yes, of course, sports contribute to physical health. And that's quite clear now, especially with how inactive kids have become. I mean, when I first became a trainer, type 2 diabetes was called adult onset diabetes because only adults got it. You developed it through poor lifestyle habits. But so many kids started getting it, they changed the name. And that's where we're at now. So definitely, there's definite physical benefits.
Starting point is 00:03:50 But now we see in the data that there's tremendous psychological and mental and societal benefits to children being in sports. So it's not just about moving the body and being physical. It's about, it's so much more than that. It's a crazy microcosm for so many different things, for social integration, for leadership, for being able to work with other people that are difficult, for having obstacles that you have to overcome. There's so many introductions of challenges and things at real time that these kids need to figure their way out of and be able to account for and also practice ahead of time for which you know leads
Starting point is 00:04:34 to the work you see that translate into their actual competition and so they learn a lot about not just their their physical abilities and their capabilities but also too like it forms and shapes uh their ability to handle a lot of challenges in life oh yeah hard hard work sacrifice delayed gratification um overcoming adversity there's so many things that they're they're getting you know and not to go off on a different tangent but this i was just asked by a soon-to-be dad, you know, like, like different dad advice that I was giving him. We were going, and one of the things that caught him off guard that I had said was, and I'll don't let him wear shoes for like the first
Starting point is 00:05:13 few years of his life. And I just think it's, there's so many misconceptions around kids and kids' health and sports and activity. And to me that this is connected, even though we're talking about sports today, it's just that we're connected, even though we're talking about sports today. It's just that we're so unaware of what we're doing to them by, as soon as they're born, slapping these two-inch soles on their feet when you have all these nerve endings that are at the bottom of their feet,
Starting point is 00:05:38 and you completely are... It's like putting a cast on them and then expecting them to be grounded and connected to the ground. Yeah, well, along those lines, the brain develops through lots of input. Part of the ways that it develops and movement and skills that are required to throw a ball, catch a ball, to run, jump, climb, turn, twist, not fall, fall, get back up, that kind of stuff. That develops the brain. It
Starting point is 00:06:03 develops the brain in very important. It's interesting because scientists for a long time now have identified that play is extremely important for the development of mammals. We see this in all animals, dogs and cats and monkeys and whatever, that when they're a certain age, them playing is not just fun, it's important for the development of the mammal for some reason we've like discredited that or taken that out of the human equation which is insane it's extremely
Starting point is 00:06:32 important for development developing skills societal skills um and just your ability to navigate the world and you mentioned it being a microcosm, it is. You can play an entire game and essentially in that game learn many lessons that may take years in life to learn that you have learned in just one game. That's the thing. It's like an incubator for a lot of testing, improving just any skill and concept about what you're capable of doing.
Starting point is 00:07:02 So for me, I just get really passionate about the sports in general because i think that um people have abandoned sports for some way and i i went back in and coached and i was just surprised at like how little participation was happening across the board i know there's a lot of factors out there uh where there's lots of information about how the risks have increased for certain activities, how, you know, what we're seeing with the concussions. Is that what you blame it on? Do you blame it more on that?
Starting point is 00:07:29 I blame a little bit of that. I blame a little bit of, honestly, a lot of bubble taping and a lot of helicopter parenting, a lot of, you know, unwillingness to allow kids to struggle and parents getting over-involved. I agree. See, that's interesting because I think I don't see it as much on the parent side as I see it on the kid's side of not even wanting to do it.
Starting point is 00:07:52 I see more of that than I see a parent going like, oh, I don't want to do it. That's the environment, though. That's a good point, too, because now we're competing with super... Games and stuff. Yes.
Starting point is 00:08:01 And computers and social media. Yeah, that's a huge another piece. Like sports was such a huge another piece. Yes. Like sports was such a huge outlet for me as a kid. Well, was there other options? Stay at home and color? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:10 And even when the introduction of video games came, they still were not as immersive as they are now. And we didn't have social media to interact. So it wasn't like I couldn't play with my friend at his house while I was at my house. Right. It just didn't work that way. Right. So I see more kids opting to not play.
Starting point is 00:08:28 So you have this combination of the helicopter parenting, the fear mongering around things like football and concussions and that stuff. But I think it's even more so the kids aren't even asking or aren't even wanting to play. So we've seen this now for the last few decades at least. And this is just to kind of back up what Justin said. Like one of the most important skills that you can,
Starting point is 00:08:52 and we'll go through all the different skills, but one of the most important skills you learn from competition as a kid is both how to win and how to lose. It's very important to learn how to lose and how to win. Now how to win, you need to learn how to lose and how to win. Now, how to win, you need to learn how to be humble, how to be grateful, how to continue to be motivated because you can lose motivation if you just, you know, you win and then, okay, now what do I do next type of deal? How to treat others as if you beat them in competition. Very important skill. A lot of
Starting point is 00:09:18 people don't realize that learning how to win is important. Learning how to lose is very important as well because in life, you're going to probably lose more than you win. So when you lose, how do you deal with it? How do you process it? Do you beat yourself up and quit and never try again? Or do you try to improve yourself? What does this mean that I lost this game? And what are the things I can look at within myself? And parents oftentimes, and I've seen this last three decades, have eliminated that extremely important skill by either a not letting kids keep track of the score which is ridiculous because they do anyway or giving away prizes and awards to everybody just for showing up and i know you know we hear
Starting point is 00:09:56 people talk about that all the time like it's the worst thing in the world i don't think it's the worst thing in the world but i do think uh a big part of this is not realizing the value in play and in sports. We just look at it and we take for granted why we've been doing it for millennia. And we say, oh, it's just a physical activity. Well, they'll just get that anywhere else. It's like, no, no, no. Just because we've stopped examining the value of it doesn't mean there's any value. And we're starting to realize now just how important it is that kids go and compete and and
Starting point is 00:10:25 play in organized type games also the value of of not winning right and losing and not getting the award and like there's the best value yeah so that's the thing that the the trophy for everyone thing really hurt us so bad as a society it was that aspect it's not so much the kids all got some participation trophy is that there's such great lessons in life you know when they're going to learn it later when it it means more right like i didn't get hired right and so you know the the ability to get back up that you know and even too like just the the unfortunate part of the politics of sports and it's unfair sometimes and the ref made a bad call and I lost because like, that's fucking life. The coach doesn't like me even though I'm the best player.
Starting point is 00:11:09 That's right. That's fucking life. You're going to find yourself at a job one day and someone's going to get promoted and you deserve to get promoted. Yeah, absolutely. And so what do you do? Do you go and quit because of that? Or do you find a way to pick yourself back up? And I just think that's the part that we lost. Some other skills that are important to learn, and this is just as a developing human, is how to both lead and also how to follow. Those are both extremely important. Now, when I say that, I think people think to themselves, well, there's some leaders and there's people who are followers. Almost everybody, yes, people do fall into one of those categories,
Starting point is 00:11:44 but everybody at some point is going to have to lead or follow so this is just true for every human now you're going to do more of one or the other depending on the kind of person you are or whatever but it's important because following is how you learn from other people does that so unless you think you know everything all right away this is a skill you need this now we all know that person who gets hired at the job who does a terrible job learning from other people. Nobody wants to work with that person who doesn't know anything, but yet wants to come across like they're the boss.
Starting point is 00:12:11 And then there's that. And then there's the ability to lead, to be able to take charge and take responsibility. You learn this playing organized sports. You learn when you need to follow, when you need to lead and also the value of both. One isn't necessarily better than the other because it's the team that wins or the team that loses. Yeah, and it's mainly like being ready for either one of those roles and acknowledging that it's my time now.
Starting point is 00:12:36 I need to do something with this ball and lead this team, or I need to pass this off because this player is going to have the best chance for success for us right now. And it's, it's really about the team itself as opposed to the individual. And that's, that's another big, again, with team sports and we'll get into like, there's value in individual sports as well.
Starting point is 00:12:56 But I think from, from a team perspective, you, you learn quickly, like what your role is, but also to like that role can change and you just need to be ready to always adjust no the stuff a lot of what you guys are talking about are the social and psychological pieces that it brings but the point of me bringing up the whole barefoot thing
Starting point is 00:13:16 was there's there's a physical element that is so important that i feel like we're losing that there's more to that adam Adam, because just to back you up, there is a window of learning that you have as a child that you lose when you get older. Yes. So if you don't learn, for example, learning languages, this is always the example I use because people can get this one, right? If you learn four languages as a child, you'll speak all of them fluently with no accent. You can speak Spanish, Italian, you can speak Chinese, you can speak English. If you learn all of these as a child, all of them will sound without an accent. They'll sound just like the way you learn them. Now you do this as an adult,
Starting point is 00:13:56 you can learn all of them, but your primary language will be the one that doesn't have an accent. The rest are going to sound, you'll go to speak Mandarin and they're going to know, oh, you speak English as your primary language. your primary language processes are much more hardwired yes you're more pliable as you're growing up and developing so this is a good opportunity that's right so your example of the like not wearing shoes like if you walk around barefoot as a child you're the dexterity and the control and the connection you have with your feet i mean if you don't do that when you're a kid and you wait till you're an adult you'll get some some back. You're going to get all of it back. So these skills that children develop, these motor skills and ability to move, this is brain development. That's why you can't
Starting point is 00:14:33 learn this later on like you could when you were a kid. That's why it's such a crucial time. We're also seeing something that's unique to our time period right now too with children's posture. We've never seen this before where you have kids are going to the doctor for back pain low back pain in in kids like that that didn't exist just a couple decades ago and a lot of that is just how sedentary and how addicted to these iphones and computers and ipads that we've become and so so, I don't know. I think more than ever, this is going to become that much. And video games and AR and VR is getting so cool. And it's only becoming more immersive
Starting point is 00:15:12 and it's drawing us through that direction. So I think the importance of the kids getting involved in sports become even more important. And not just for the social psychological points you guys are making, but also the physical ones that I'm telling you right now that may not be the top of mind conversation right now.
Starting point is 00:15:31 Give it five or 10 more years when we've seen this play out even more and watch how much more we're communicating, talking about the importance of this. And then there's a connection to just learning in general. We saw the GPA score. Some people say, Oh, it's because so they could stay in the sport.
Starting point is 00:15:44 No, no, no. You stay in the sport at 2.0. We saw a difference way above that. Taking a child and having them pay attention, things like attention deficit disorder, right? You see a significant improvement in symptoms when children are simply active. What's funny about this is if you had a dog, let's say you had a lab and you kept them inside all day long and took them on one walk a day, one walk a day, and then you're back inside all day and had them watch
Starting point is 00:16:10 TV and stuff. And your dog was chewing up your furniture and peeing, everyone acting crazy. And you went to the vet and you said, why is my lab doing this? He'd be like, your dog needs to go outside, needs to move. Somehow we don't talk about our kids in the same way. Why is Timmy not able to pay attention? He's not doing anything but sitting in a chair almost all day long. He's either on an iPad, watching TV, or he's in a classroom, and instead of medicating them, let's have them exercise. His nervous system needs the stimulus. That's right.
Starting point is 00:16:35 We have these sensors built in for a reason. We need to use our body and move. It's built into us. Before we get into the five sports sports that we're gonna get into i also want to talk about the the other end of the spectrum which is the parents that are gung-ho about getting their kids in sports because this was something i remember when we interviewed chad wesley right chad wesley smith great interview it was a long time ago um a brilliant coach and trainer and i was i was under the misconception that, you know,
Starting point is 00:17:06 if I wanted my son to be great at basketball or great at baseball, it's like the sooner you can get him into it and the more of that sport, right? It's like all you play is baseball. You just hyper-focus on it. Yeah, hyper-focus on it. They're going to be that good. And this is not true because of the way a child develops
Starting point is 00:17:21 and how important general play and all the different types of movement sports so something for the parents that definitely agree with everything that we were saying for the first 10 minutes just now this podcast they have like their favorite sport but yeah but then they're like you know timmy is in you know baseball year-round because i have family and friends like this and they've got young kids and they think that he's going to become this superstar baseball player and so they have him in year-round baseball nonstop. And they don't realize this, but he, Timmy, would actually benefit by playing this. They're limiting their development by doing that.
Starting point is 00:17:53 It's different than adults. So as an adult, if I wanted to get as good as I could at baseball, it would be best for me to just play baseball as much as I physically possibly could. play baseball as much as I physically possibly could. For children, because they have that window of development where the brain is developing general motor skills and intelligence, it's better to put them in multiple sports for a long time and then far later, like around 17 or 18, having them specialize. The data supports this. By the way, for the same point as your language argument, at an early age like that, they will pick up the ability to move their body in all these unique ways, and it will only add to their arsenal
Starting point is 00:18:30 of them being great at it. The skill set increases, the likelihood that a variable gets thrown at them that they'll be able to overcome is higher than one that just specialized. And the data shows this, that the kids that are in college that perform better in a specialized sport were the ones shows this, that the kids that are in college that perform better in a specialized sport
Starting point is 00:18:45 were the ones that played multiple sports as kids, not the ones that played just that sport. Which, by the way, he made the point of that, of he encouraged the kids play a minimum of two to four sports pretty much all of their life until they get out of high school. That's right. So not even specializing down to one sport
Starting point is 00:19:04 until after high school. So if you have So not even specializing down to one sport until after high school. So if you have the luxury to play more than one sport, even in high school, it is more ideal for the kids. And definitely when you're talking about middle school and before is they should be playing as many types of sports as they possibly can as they're developing. Now, all sports, of course, so long as they're performed appropriately and whatnot
Starting point is 00:19:22 is going to have benefit. But we picked the five that we saw as having some of the most benefit, and we're going to highlight the specific benefits of each of these. The first one that we listed was swimming. Now, the reason why we picked swimming as one of the first ones is because children can swim and learn how to swim before they can walk. Before they can even walk, they can get in water and learn how to keep themselves from
Starting point is 00:19:46 drowning how to move how to propel themselves forward so they're working on motor skills that they normally wouldn't be able to do because they can't even support their own body weight but in the water they could and you see this with like six month old than eight month old children in the water learning how to hold their breath how to swim to mom and her dad so it's like it's one of the earliest ways you can get them to be active and to kind of learn some of these skills and pick them up it's a really interesting one to see how quickly like a a young kid can adapt to swimming it's wild it's it's bizarre but then then you see later on the longer you wait how incredibly difficult it is to get them to go in and the
Starting point is 00:20:25 fear sets in. And it's like this huge struggle to get them to learn how to swim. This is what we went through. So it was so tough for me. I watched Brendan, who's his daughter's two years younger than Max's. And Max, when we were trying to get him into swim lessons, was right during all the COVID stuff. So we literally got our first lesson and then COVID hits and then it gets all shut down. And that gap of him not doing that, now trying to encourage him to do it,
Starting point is 00:20:51 he's so reluctant. And he's like, oh, when I get bigger, daddy, I'll learn how to swim. That's what he always tries to tell me now. And seeing his daughter, who was two years younger than Max, swimming when she was months old
Starting point is 00:21:02 was just wild. And if you never have Googled or got on youtube and looked up baby swimming it's the wildest thing you've ever seen it's amazing and not to mention there's the you know just the practical value of your kid knowing how to swim it's one of the leading causes of death uh for children um so it's it's great to teach by the way kids do this in bathtubs you know if you leave a bathtub without draining it, a kid can, so you just teach them how to swim, how to maneuver in water.
Starting point is 00:21:27 It's also quite safe. But the exercise component and the motor skill component, they could just do more in the water earlier than they can on land. Well, yeah, and what's great about swimming too, and this is beyond, we're obviously talking about, you know, infants, young children, and why it's such a great sport,
Starting point is 00:21:42 but why this is such a great sport even into adulthood is like you cover all the planes. Yeah. So your, your, your body is, and, and you're,
Starting point is 00:21:49 you're having to move the entire body from fingertips down to your toes. Every movement is meeting resistance. Yes. Everything is meeting resistance. Everything is engaged. So the, the neurological benefits to that and also the safety of that. Right.
Starting point is 00:22:01 So it's like, there's a very high reward, very low risk. Like the, the, in that sport, the hurting yourself or getting into, not so it's like there's a very high reward very low risk like the in that sport the hurting yourself or getting in not that it's impossible like it's possible to get hurt in any sport that we do anything you do explosive or hard can you get hurt but the likelihood of getting hurt or hurt and swimming is really really low yet it has a lot of a lot of benefits that come with it totally all right the next one is gymnastics. Now, gymnastics, probably one of the best things you could have your kid do to develop overall motor development, overall proprioceptive
Starting point is 00:22:31 ability. It's so dynamic. There's so many positions and movements and controlling your own body. I mean, I would see this as an adult when I was doing Brazilian jujitsu. If somebody did gymnastics as a kid, they knew no jujitsu, they move different. They just moved. It's almost like they already knew jujitsu a little bit because of the way that they move. Well, just the capacity to place them in a position, they're going to be aware of it more likely than the other kid that hasn't done it. It's just, and to be able to move and jump and flip and to be able to be spatially aware and then solid and be able to create tension, to be grounded at the same time, that's going to just translate to any other pursuit physically that you're going to do. You guys have to explain what proprioception means.
Starting point is 00:23:17 Knowing where your body is in space. Yeah. And just that point alone, the carryover to anything you would do later on. I wish I knew this, right? Because I was the kid who, you know, I picked up sports like wakeboarding and snowboarding. And I got into that stuff as I got older, like in high school. And it was such a hard learning curve for me to be comfortable with twisting and going upside down and doing all these these moves that i wanted to do because i had no experience with lat and that all that tumbling and flipping and body control in space and in dynamic movements like that that you get from gymnastics boy does that carry over
Starting point is 00:23:56 into everything a brain development like uh here's this is a sport where when you're a kid you learn it better than when you're an adult like you go try and do gymnastics an adult again this is the fear component there's people really underestimate like uh that's because if if you're doing it now later on in life it's there's all these reserves like i you kind of know uh what's going to happen if i land a little bit wrong here or if like uh so they're able to do it where their body's a little bit more pliable and they're going to be more forgiving when they well there's fear there's also physics when you're big it's harder to do these moves anyway that doesn't mean that and what that means is you get to learn them as a kid and the brain is very plastic these are movements that if you don't instill in your brain
Starting point is 00:24:43 it will prune it out. Like there's, why do I need to know how to do a cartwheel or a flip or, you know, land in a particular position off of jumping if I never did that before? And so your brain prunes it off, but gymnastics kind of solidifies it. And again, you talk to any coach who coaches traditional sports, ask them, what is your experience of people, of kids that come and play the sport for the first time that also did gymnastics as kids? And they'll all tell you they're on a different level well also like swimming this is another thing that you can start really early too early yeah so you can get i mean we started maxing at two years old i think it was when they first started accepting kids in
Starting point is 00:25:16 gymnastics and they teach them or tumbling is what they call it at that age yeah and so it's just organized play at that point but already getting them comfortable with climbing on things, hanging on things, rolling around, like again, that spatial awareness. So what a great sport to keep kids in at an early age and how much it's going to carry over to any other pursuit. Next is wrestling. Now, wrestling is one of the best sports to teach your child grit and tenacity and toughness.
Starting point is 00:25:45 You are, first off, it's one-on-one. So you have to rely on just yourself and you're being held down or manipulated or maneuvered by somebody else. And that is hard to overcome because it's just close. It's like fighting, right? Except it's not, it's wrestling,
Starting point is 00:26:00 but you have to be tough and you have to get through that and you have to be able to get your butt kicked and bounce back. Wrestling does that. Now, the other component of it is it's a sport with some self-defense carryover. Like your kid learns how to wrestle and they're going to be far better off if something ever happens where they need to defend themselves, boy or girl. So it's got that carryover as well.
Starting point is 00:26:20 Huge confidence builder. Yeah, when you have those type of skills. And now it's it it's interesting because it would be like a great follow-up from um gymnastics because of your spatial awareness your explosivity and like you're you're able to kind of find where you are and be able to leverage that uh against your opponent and so now there's a physical strength component there that's you know opposing a force as opposed to just like the gravity uh for instance that's why i mean i love pairing this with gymnastics because gymnastics
Starting point is 00:26:51 first gives you that great foundation and then now wrestling you now have that expression of that right and and you have an opposing force that's challenging that so it's great you understand your body and space and awareness and you can tumble and flip and you do this now how do you do when someone's pressing on you or grabbing or pulling like you not only have to have that same body awareness and control but also the strength and power to a lot more conditioning endurance well it's also it's this is a great way to train your ego it really is like you could be in a difficult challenge challenging position do you know swimming where you're tired and or cycling where you're exhausted or, you know, playing another sport, or maybe you're on a team and
Starting point is 00:27:28 they're beating you, but to be physically held down or have someone physically beat you, it's an ego check. And this is an important one. A lot of people think, oh, what do you mean? You're getting beat up. No, no, this is an important one. There's a lot of tough guys out there, for example, that have never really gotten their their butt kicked and that's good you don't get your butt kicked out in the street but on the wrestling that it's it's interesting you meet people who wrestle for a living and who not for a living but for a long time who are really good at it they're humble they're humble because their ego is checked constantly in practice um and then of course the skill and technique that you learn from it that there's also a confidence with that too so
Starting point is 00:28:04 you you brought something up that and not that we're encouraging anybody by any means to be fighting or anything, but I've never been in a fight in my life that didn't end up on the ground. So having that skill set as far as defending yourself. You see stuff on YouTube and clips of kids swinging on each other, but most all street fights or scuffles end up on the ground and your ability. Yeah. So your ability to wrestle somebody or gain control in a situation like that. I'll say for girls, this is a very important skill because if a young lady's assaulted, she's put on the ground. If she knows how to wrestle, she may know how to get up and escape,
Starting point is 00:28:42 which is, again, in that particular scenario, very important. All right, next up track and field. Here's, here's something that's interesting just to kind of think about ponder there. There's a few things that humans evolved to do physically very well. We're not the strongest. We're not the fastest. Like you put us, you know, against most animals and you know, we're not, we're not very good. Okay. Things that are physical, we're very smart, obviously. But there's two things that we do exceptionally well in comparison to any other animal. One is throw with accuracy. The other one is run. We're actually made to run, not fast, but long. Humans can out-trek almost any animal. In fact, this is how hunter-gatherers, modern hunter-gatherers, and we estimate,
Starting point is 00:29:25 you know, ancient ones caught their prey. We would, we wound it and we'd run after it until it got tired. And then we would take it down. And if you look at the physiology of the human body with our big glutes, our big knee joints, we have this, this foot that's covered in muscle and this ankle and these calves that are like, like, uh, you know, shock absorbers. We are literally made to run. Here's the problem. We stop running. Yeah. We suck at it. And we, we lost the skill forever. And then people lace up their running shoes when they're 30 years old to get in better shape. And now running has more injuries than any other sport that you can point back. If you look it up, people run, hurt themselves all the time. So this is a skill that if you lose it good luck
Starting point is 00:30:05 trying to gain it back so track and field for a kid is like let's keep the skill of being able to run no i most sports especially team sports when we get to that point uh require some set of running skills in fact a high level of of running skills which is also why a lot of times you'll find a lot of your pro athletes pro football players pro basketball pro also have a track and field background yeah and that's because they've mastered the art of running and then they also love to play with this ball sport you know and so it carries over into those sports and when you start to get to the highest level right when we're talking about professional sports it comes down to like a fraction of a second difference of what sometimes
Starting point is 00:30:45 gets you picked or gets you drafted. Like when you run the combine and you are tracked on time and you're 40 and stuff like that, your ability to be able to sprint in that dash with great form and technique makes a huge difference. One of the biggest attributes now in almost all sports is speed. And so, you know, in order to learn speed and how to move most effectively mechanically like this is going to be your best bet with learning uh you know those traits through track and field that's right and then track and field of course also i think to an extent teaches tenacity differently than wrestling uh but more so like you're fighting against your own physical pain and elements and you're learning like okay okay, especially the long distance stuff. Like how do I persevere? Is there a carry over to that in
Starting point is 00:31:27 everyday life? You better believe it, right? There's something that's unique about every, so the, you know, we're doing five of these, right? This is a four and everything that we've named so far is an individual sport. That's right. And, uh, and we've obviously talked about all the value that that brings. And I think that in a, world where you're cycling a kid through most all of these or keeping them involved in most of these. But then the fifth one. Team sports. Yes.
Starting point is 00:31:51 You know, the traditional ones, soccer, basketball, football, baseball, extremely, extremely valuable. It's funny because you talk to anybody who, there's a lot of adult friends that I have that literally say to me sports organized sports football or basketball or baseball saved their life that they didn't have a good home life or whatever but it was the team sport and the coach and it was to give them a sense of belonging and family
Starting point is 00:32:18 this teaches you how to play by the rules how to value not cheating how to have pride in doing things with integrity how to win how to play by the rules, how to value not cheating, how to have pride in doing things with integrity, how to win, how to lose, how to sit back and step forward. Team sports do this incredibly well in a very controlled, easy to observe manner. You know, life, you know, you look at a CEO
Starting point is 00:32:40 making tons of money and from the outside, you might be like, oh, he was just put in that position or whatever, because we can't see everything he did for the last you know or she did for the last 15 20 years get there but you watch you play a game and it's out there for people to see like how hard you worked what you did kind of character you have and team sports exemplifies that yeah i think too like what i like about it is your peers are really like, it's self-regulating. So yeah, your coach is there and wants order and wants to make sure everybody's, you know, going in the direction that, you know, the team needs to go. But at the end of the day, when you're competing and you're out there together as a unit, you know, it's, if, if you're being an asshole and you're the one that's like, you know, not distributing it, not making the best play efforts to the person that you know is going to be able to figure out, okay, you know, yes, I want to lead, but also too, I need to kind of.
Starting point is 00:33:54 I need to play with people. I need to play. I need to be likable. I need to do things with grace, you know, and so it's a really hard lesson, but it's the best to receive from your peers as opposed to an adult. Well, it resembles, of all the sports we're talking about, it resembles real life the most. Totally, because life is not solo, right? No, and that's right. And you brought up a point.
Starting point is 00:34:17 It's actually one of my biggest pet peeves when I get into it with people that love to critique CEOs on the outside. Oh, he's this and he's that. love to critique CEOs on the outside. Oh, he's this and he's that. And it's just like, man, the ability to get tens or hundreds or thousands of people to move cohesively in the same direction is a massive skill, a massive skill. Or to even have people underneath you that work for you, that do that for you is a massive skill to be able to do that. It takes teamwork to be able to develop a skill like that. And then you're going to get that with school is a massive skill to be able to do that. It takes teamwork to be able to develop a skill like that. And then you're going to get that with school. You're going to get that everywhere you go in life
Starting point is 00:34:49 is you're going to have to learn. And what I love about sports too, Justin, you made the point of the self-regulating ego check. Eventually, you will meet someone who is better than you. You may be the shit in your hometown, but eventually you keep climbing the ranks. It will humble you and you will eventually meet someone who is better than you and there is something so humbling and
Starting point is 00:35:11 and such a good lesson in that and and when you're in team sports you can have sometimes that kid who's like the superstar early on and so maybe he gets a bit of an ego he's cocky early on because he goes through the sport really easy but eventually he'll climb the ladder to a point where he's playing with all the other cocky shits that were just as good as he was in their hometown. And then you get humble really fast. What's great about this is for your kids, they learn this in a game. If they don't learn this in a game, they're going to learn this when the stakes are really high. Like your kid acts like a jerk in a game. Like what's the worst that could happen?
Starting point is 00:35:45 Uh, you know, kicked off the team at the absolute worst, or probably the kids will say something. Coach will have to coach them. They'll sit out. Something like that. Right. They never learned this playing sports and they just go through life and then
Starting point is 00:35:55 they get a job and then they go work in a place and then they act that way because they never learned this through playing organized sports or team sports. Like you ain't working. Nobody likes you. You don't have any friends or whatever. So these are lessons you can learn as a kid that develop you into a better human being. So there you have it. Look, if you love the show, head over to mindpumpfree.com and check out some
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