Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 2288: The Importance of Protein When Cutting, the Best Way to Prime Your CNS Before a Workout, Ways to Keep Your Joints Healthy as You Age & More

Episode Date: March 8, 2024

In this episode of Quah (Q & A), Sal, Adam & Justin answer four Pump Head questions from  the Sunday @mindpumpmedia Quah post. Mind Pump Fit Tip: It is HEALTHIER to be fat and strong than to be ski...nny and weak. (1:40) Children and play. (17:21) Like father, like son. (19:53) Justin can move. (24:59) Rooting for the older guy. (26:53) The Brady conspiracy. (28:13) Do looks matter? (32:53) Caldera and eczema. (37:10) Food allergies in kids are out of control! (38:53) Get your kids outside! (40:34) Disney’s BIG bet. (42:16) The anti-inflammatory benefits of probiotics. (50:20) Can growing a mustache help you swim faster? (52:22) Smoke and mirrors. (53:07) Shout out to BallerBusters! (58:11) #Quah question #1 - What are some tips to keep joints functionally healthy and pain-free when you’re 40+? (59:35) #Quah question #2 - Do I need to drop my protein goals when I'm cutting? I’m 5’1’’ so my calorie budget is small. (1:07:16) #Quah question #3 - Can running strengthen the ankles if they are weak? (1:10:12) #Quah question #4 - What is the best way to fire your CNS before a workout? For example, would doing Dunphy squats or iso holds using a suspension trainer be ok to do? (1:14:08) Related Links/Products Mentioned Visit Caldera Lab for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Promo code MINDPUMP at checkout for 20% off your first order of their best products ** Visit Seed for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Promo code 25MINDPUMP at checkout for 25% off your first month’s supply of Seed’s DS-01® Daily Synbiotic** March Promotion: MAPS Anabolic | MAPS Anabolic Advanced 50% off! ** Code MARCH50 at checkout ** Mind Pump #2187: Why Building Muscle Is More Important Than Losing Fat With Dr. Gabrielle Lyon 42-year-old youth coach throwing 101 mph - MLB.com Food Allergy Among U.S. Children: Trends in Prevalence and Hospitalizations Why Children Need Risk, Fear, and Excitement in Play Disney and Epic Games to Create Expansive and Open Games and Entertainment Universe Connected to Fortnite Wendy's surge pricing: Is this Uber-like practice the new normal? Seed’s PDS-08®PediatricDaily SynbioticFor Kids + Teens (3-17) SNEAK TACH-TICS I tricked Russian swimmers into growing moustaches with cheeky fib about making you go faster, says icon Mark Spitz TRANSCEND your goals! Telehealth Provider • Physician Directed GET YOUR PERSONALIZED TREATMENT PLAN!  Hormone Replacement Therapy, Cognitive Function, Sleep & Fatigue, Athletic Performance and MORE. Their online process and medical experts make it simple to find out what’s right for you. Mind Pump #2280: Why Everyone Should Train Like An Athlete Two Ankle Mobility Exercises To Increase Your Squat Depth! Suspension Training Series - 3 Favorite Shoulder Exercises Mind Pump Podcast – YouTube Mind Pump Free Resources People Mentioned Dr. Gabrielle Lyon (@drgabriellelyon) Instagram Dr. William Seeds (@williamseedsmd) Instagram @EclipseTrades Twitter Christopher M. Naghibi (@chrisnaghibi) Instagram BallerBusters (@ballerbusters) Instagram

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Starting point is 00:01:28 very popular strength, muscle building, metabolism, booth boosting programs. You can find them both at maps, fitness products.com, but use the code March 50 for the discount. All right. Here comes the show. It is better. It is healthier to be fat and strong than it is to be skinny and weak.
Starting point is 00:01:46 The data actually shows this. In fact, we're probably not in an obesity epidemic. We may actually be in an undermuscled, weak epidemic. The data is alarming. I like when Dr. Gabriel on says, this is the first time I heard someone say that. Say that we're undermuscled. We're not over fat. We're undermuscled. Okay. So you guys want to hear some crazy, so I was thinking about this a lot this morning. And I remember, you know, I used to train a lot of doctors. I remember one of them,
Starting point is 00:02:13 what kind of, he was a vascular surgeon. And he said to me, he said, you know, a sizable minority of people are the ones that get type two diabetes and get heart attacks. Like they're not fat and they get heart attacks. And I said, what do you mean a sizable minority? And he goes, well, it's not a majority, but it's a big enough percentage to where it's kind of weird.
Starting point is 00:02:36 And I always stuck with me, you know, it's like, that's true, right? Cause we always think obesity causes everything. It's the obesity that's causing everything is what we think, but that's not necessarily the case. I looked up some, some statistics, so trip off this. 15 to 20%. Okay. So roughly two out of every 10 people who get type two diabetes are not even
Starting point is 00:02:57 overweight. Okay. That's a lot of millions of people. 20 to 30% of people who get heart attacks are not overweight. 35% of people with high blood pressure are not overweight and 60 to 30% of people who get heart attacks are not overweight. 35% of people with high blood pressure are not overweight. And 60 to 70% of cancer patients, actually majority are not overweight. Now you want to know what all of them have in common? Low muscle.
Starting point is 00:03:18 Yes, sarcopenia. So low muscle mass. Oh, sarcopenia. Sarcopenia. In fact, sarcopenia is- Is it high body fat percentage or is it like all average across the board? So, you know, we, there used to be this belief that if you were obese, you probably had more muscle mass.
Starting point is 00:03:34 And then there was a study years ago where they showed, no, this isn't the case at all. People who are obese have less muscle mass. They're actually weak. They, they suffer from sarcopenia and that that was a big myth is just because you the logical thought process, I believe that's a carrying weight, right? They must have muscle to support weight. Listen, being being skinny and weak is actually far worse. Now, of course, there's
Starting point is 00:03:57 extremes. That somebody beyond 600 pounds or whatever. Yeah. Okay. I'm talking about like, when you're looking at relative, it's all relative. Yeah. General, like general, you know, range of a skinny a week and, and, and overweight, right? Like what we'll see. Um, look, look at athletics, for example, how many sports is it benefit? Do you ever see a skinny week person perform? Never. But you see a lot of sports where people are a little heavy and they do pretty damn good physical sports, Justin. It's mentally physical. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:27 They were a lot of calories doing that. Right. They do. But think about that, right? Like there's been baseball players, football players, MMA fighters. There's been, you know, people, all kinds of sports track and field even where the body fat percentage is a little high and yet they perform really well. You never see the opposite.
Starting point is 00:04:43 So strength gives you muscle, gives you mobility. It gives you insulin sensitivity. It gives you the buffer. I think that's a big one. That's a big one. The insulin sensitivity, I think is the, is the biggest one because it's like it, and it's in the same vein as a buffer too, because it's like, if you have all this, this muscle, okay, that, that requires a lot of energy and calories to be sustained and to move and to be
Starting point is 00:05:09 used on your body. In comparison to fat or In comparison to fat, then it, it, it affords you, uh, what the, the American lifestyle a bit, like you can get away with eating out, having a couple of drinks here and there. Whereas if you have little to no muscle mass on you and so, and a slower metabolism, when you do that, it's like I always try to explain to people why that's so important that we focus first on building muscle and building the metabolism because,
Starting point is 00:05:33 and why some people feel like this. Like how many people have you ever talked to as clients that said like, man, if I just feel like I eat so good and then I have that one meal, right? That one candy bar, that one thing. And I feel like it sticks right to me. You've heard that so many times. And you know, the young trainer and you goes like, well, that's not possible. He's not like you ate 250 calorie or 500 calorie candy or whatever.
Starting point is 00:05:54 And it was stuck to your body. But hey, if, if 500 calories is a third or, you know, of what your, what your maintenance is, what your maintenance is, then man, it really can feel like a couple of mistakes in the diet. And it does add body fat to you versus someone who has just as many pounds of fat on their body, but they have an extra 20 pounds of muscle, same, same body type, same sex, same everything. Just give that same amount of fat even just give that person 20 pounds more muscle. Oh my God, the 500 extra calories here, there, and, and that's not ideal.
Starting point is 00:06:26 Your, your body ends up utilizing that for energy for maintaining the muscle mass. That's right. Huge difference. And also muscle is a storage vessel for glycogen and glycogen is what your body turns sugars and carbohydrates into. So when you look at a blood sugar levels, insulin sensitivity, this is a big one, right? We know now that, uh, issues now that issues with being sensitive to insulin
Starting point is 00:06:47 or having bad fasting glucose or whatever, like that's connected to a lot of things, including heart disease, but definitely diabetes and cancer and all that stuff. Muscle is one place that you store. Can we pull up the numbers on that? What? Can you show me, Doug, how much more glycogen,
Starting point is 00:07:04 five pounds of fat versus five pounds of muscle? Well, body fat doesn't store glycogen at all. No. So literally, no body fat, how many? So glycogen, so carbohydrates would have to get converted, converted, stored in the fat or turn into fat when you, and you have muscle mass. So your liver, so let's look at that. Let's, how much,
Starting point is 00:07:23 how much does five pounds of muscle is stored at five pounds? How many grams of carbohydrates would five pounds of muscle? With it in calories, measuring in calories, probably the easiest way to do it. So this is what I see here. It's 15 grams of glycogen per kilogram of body weight. So that'd be like seven grams per pound. So try muscle put how many how many how many grams of carbohydrates can five pounds of muscle store It might be easier to find calories and see what they're gonna have to convert that to calories multiple times four
Starting point is 00:07:55 Yeah, give me a sec. Oh wait But anyway, my point is this is what I want to I want to put this I want to put this into perspective for people because that's such a big deal It's like yeah, just by you having an extra, I used to give this old generic, and I know it's a generic number, but I used to tell someone, oh, we add basically three to five pounds of muscle to your body. We don't change anything else. We just add three to five. It's like you can have a big Mac a day.
Starting point is 00:08:18 Now every single day and your body is not going to store that body fat. That's a big fucking deal. Again, that's a, that's an estimation and it's like, obviously there's massive variants and all kinds of other variables, but to get the point across of how important it is that we build a little bit of muscle and how valuable that can be to you to maintaining a healthy fit life. It's also, look, it's a storage vessel for glycogen, like I said,
Starting point is 00:08:41 so your liver and your muscles are the largest places where you'll store a glycogen primarily. That's where you store it. If you build muscle, you've increased your storage capacity, which means you have now when you eat carbohydrates or sugars, your body has some places to put it and muscles very insulin sensitive. It's actually, in fact, the fastest way, one of the fastest ways to increase or improve insulin sensitivity is to simply build muscle. There's studies on severely obese individuals, people who are very overweight.
Starting point is 00:09:09 They haven't lost no weight. They haven't built a little bit of muscle, and we have these dramatic improvements in their fasting glucose and in their insulin sensitivity. But there's more than that, right? There's also functionality and mobility. Like move around the world and live your life being skinny and weak versus being overweight but strong. You are less capable, less functional.
Starting point is 00:09:30 There's less you can do in the world. There's less things you can, you know, move and carry and it makes the quality of life. You can't dismiss how much carry over that has to. That's, that's immeasurable too. It's just hard to, to like quantify. Um, oh, okay. I added three to five pounds of muscle. This is also too, I, I get really annoyed by the science community that wants
Starting point is 00:09:51 to distill this down to like what it is calorie wise and only that in a burning, burning state when it's like, there's so many other factors to the person who adds five pounds of muscle. Like what have they done in order to do that? Well, you know, they've made some good food choices because you're not, you're not building muscle without proper nutrients, right? So they've added that. They've added some sort of strain training routine. So there's some consistency around that. They've prioritized some sort of recovery.
Starting point is 00:10:15 And then how does that make them feel? Yeah. And then how does that, that how does that bleed over into their work life, their home life, their, their, their parenting, their relationships, their productivity, their energy levels for the day. And it's like, and then how many more steps a day do they take because of that? And how much more active and helpful around the house are they because of that? And how much more likely are they to play with their kids because of that? And it's like, it's so hard to quantify that. But from experience, you know, how radically you've shifted someone's life when you've just added five pounds.
Starting point is 00:10:40 Do you find some numbers though? So I'm not sure if this answers your question, but so it's 15 grams of glycogen per kilo of muscle mass, which is 6.8 per pound. And if it's four calories, I believe per, so that's 27 calories per pound of muscle. Basically per pound. Yeah. Or, but 27 calories, how many grams? Well, that's 6.8 grams. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:01 So 6.8 grams of carbohydrates that you store in a pound of muscle storing. Yeah. That's not to mention how much it burns and all that stuff. Like I said, it's now the liver stores most of your glycogen, but muscle mass does it as well. This is why, like I said, again, if you look at the studies, you want to improve your blood sugar, build some muscle. That's the fastest. I have family member, in fact, I'm working with right now, and she can't figure out why her fasting glucose is she's not overweight. Right. She's like, I don't need a lot. I don't know what's going on. You know, I'm on the treadmill, this and that. I'm like, please lift weights, lift weights. Finally,
Starting point is 00:11:34 finally she started lifting weights once a week. Guess what do you think? What do you think happened? No, she, she texts me back. She's like, this is, she's like, I know you told me, but I didn't realize what happened this fast. But that but that's what muscle does. And by the way, the data on people who are underweight, look at the mortality on people who are underweight. It's worse than the data on people who are overweight. Do you know that people are underweight have terrible mortality. Now what am I, I'm not trying to advocate for people to go on this obesity journey. Obespoke, but we need to shift our mindset a little bit.
Starting point is 00:12:04 And the medical community, there's a shift that's about to happen in the medical community because obesity, we used to look at obesity as the cause, but obesity may be the smoke. The fire may actually be the fact that these people are undermuscled and metabolically as a result unhealthy. And being obese is a side effect of that,
Starting point is 00:12:27 which then causes more negative effects itself. But again, there's a sizable minority, 20, 30% of people never get obese, but they suffer from these chronic diseases. And it's because they're undermuscled. Was it so we having this conversation with Dr. seeds is that what sparked some of this? Oh no.
Starting point is 00:12:43 So with Dr. seeds, I was, uh, I am going to be talking a little sparked some of this? Oh, no. So with Dr. Seeds, I was, I am going to be talking a little bit about, you're right, actually, I am going to be talking to a group of doctors, a large room of doctors about strength training and why that should be the first line of defense in terms of exercise.
Starting point is 00:12:58 Like when you recommend activity to your patients, you need to advocate for strength training and here's why. Yeah. We need more doctors on board with this is the point to that. to your patients, you need to advocate for strength training. And here's why. Yeah, we need more doctors on board with this is the point that it's just like, because I mean, we could say it to death. We can all the other influencers can say it to death. A lot of people are still like live and die by what their doctor tells them. And so it's like, you know, if we can get the medical community to really embrace
Starting point is 00:13:20 that fact that and there's so many studies coming out to really like back you up on. It does. It does feel like we're moving in that direction. But then I wonder sometimes too is that it's because it's in our little bubble. It's so hard sometimes to like to judge like what the general population is feeling or what the the information they're getting because it's like, yeah, in our circle, we have doctor lots of doctor friends, you know, Gabriel Lyon, Dr. C, you know, like all of these great doctors that are good friends of ours that are promoting this message. But I mean, that's our little circle of friends. Right. It'll be interesting when we speak at his event, because his,
Starting point is 00:13:55 his event is about, you know, wellness and how it's to all medical professionals. It's 500, it'll be 500, uh, doctors and medical professionals. It'll be interesting to see their response to what I'm saying. If they're surprised by it or if they're like, you know what, actually I've been seeing studies on this. Do you predict being challenged by them at all? So I thought of that. Here's what'll happen if I get challenged.
Starting point is 00:14:19 I don't think I'll get challenged by the typical doctor. I think I'll get challenged by the triathlete doctor or the distance run focused. There'll be a doctor in the audience who's a marathon runner or a triathlete. Cardio junkie. Yes. They're going to try and say no or you know, whatever. Yeah. Yeah. And you know, the most staunch. Yeah. And all forms of activity, if done appropriately, are amazing. Don't like quit just because I'm saying this and then do nothing. But if you're going to pick just one, like to build muscle, that is the reaching the effects of that are so far reaching and the effort required to get those effects are so little in comparison to other forms of exercise.
Starting point is 00:14:56 But we do need to change this idea. By the way, you know, now that I'm working out in a commercial jam, kind of a mainstream one, I'm noticing there has been a little bit of a shift. I'm seeing more people who are strong and mobile who probably need to lose some weight than I'm seeing the skinny fat that we used to see all the time in the gyms. I don't see a lot of that. I see much more of the like stronger, like, you know, no, I'm not seeing a lot of that at all.
Starting point is 00:15:27 And it might be maybe because like the gym I go to, this kind of strength training focused. Yeah, you're talking about a UFC gym. Yeah, yeah. That's a little bit of a box. But it's cool to see, because I see all these, you know, and you can tell they move good. And in fact, there's this thing,
Starting point is 00:15:39 I don't know if I talked about them on the show, there's this couple that works out and they're, you know, they're not, they're not super overweight, but they're in the higher body fat percentage in, in terms of like what you consider to be lean or whatever. Man, you got to see these couple move, man. They're jumping rope and doing stuff. Oh, bro, they're doing stuff on the grass, jump box.
Starting point is 00:15:56 Like they train like athletes. They, I don't know if they compete or if this is the way they like to train, but the way they move, it's like, oh, wow, you guys are fit. You guys are very athletic, you know? That's hard. That's hard though too, because they move, it's like, oh, wow, you guys are fit. You guys are very athletic. You know? That's hard, that's hard though too, because they're, I mean, I struggle when I see someone like that because there's also the potential that they're doing that with the intent of
Starting point is 00:16:14 trying to lose weight. You know why I don't think so? Oh, why? I watch how they work out. Okay. Their workouts are intentionally, it's like they're following performance advanced. Like they know how to apply jump boxes. They know how to apply mobility.
Starting point is 00:16:28 Adequate rest periods and all that. Oh yeah, they know what they're doing. That's a big difference. Yeah, they're not doing like they were jumping around and doing something. So is your guess that they probably play intramural sports or something or like what's your thought? Or they just want to be athletic. You know, functional, quote unquote, functional training is more popular these days. So they could just be fanatics and just really
Starting point is 00:16:47 into feeling like they can move really well. Yeah. Because a lot of the time you get somebody who's trying to lose weight and they're trying to do it through that process. They don't look like that. Because you know what that looks like. You see what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:16:57 That's what I'm saying. That's why you struggle with that, right? You see someone who's working that hard and they're really overweight and they're applying that intensity thinking they're going to get this great return calorie burn wise and fat loss wise. Meanwhile, they're at a, you know, 1500 calorie intake, 20,000 steps.
Starting point is 00:17:14 And it's just like, just, I mean, they're burning the candle at both ends. They're not, they're not understanding why they're not seeing results. Yeah, terrible. Anyway, um, I'm learning about all these fun ways to use household products to make like things for kids like slime and like snow and stuff like that. Have you done any of that? Yeah, so we make his bath salts from home. We just made a paper mache.
Starting point is 00:17:39 Man, bath salts used to be drugs. Not that. I know what you mean, the bath bomb. Yeah. Not that. The, um, I know what you mean. The one that the bath bomb, your bath bomb, bath bombs that we've made homemade versions of that. We just did, uh, we just did a Pigs on the Shae volcano that we made from scratch. Oh, what? Those are fun, dude. Yeah. Yeah. So I mean, what a great idea. I forgot about that. Oh yeah. So I bought this little kid. That's so fun. I told you, I told you, yeah, he's like into science, right? So he's all, is this the one that they mail you every month? No, it's just, it I bought this little kid. That's so fun. I told you he's like into science, right? So he's all in.
Starting point is 00:18:06 Is this the one that they mail you every month? No, it was like this box. It wasn't even that expensive too. I can't remember what I paid for it, but it came with, I don't know, maybe I want to say like seven or eight, maybe more than that, maybe 10 science experiments.
Starting point is 00:18:21 And some of them are so basic, like prime colors, like so you would do like, we had these, it came with this whole thing and you put the- You mix them together and make other colors. Yeah, of them are so basic, like prime colors. Like, so you would do like, we had these, it came with this whole thing and you put the- You mix them together and make other colors. Yeah, yeah. And then, but it's water and you use water coloring and then you drip it.
Starting point is 00:18:32 And then there's other ones where we were mixing like oil base with water. And then we were making like, almost like made like a homemade version of like a lava lamp. So we could see that. And like just really, just with a bunch of home stuff, you know, it's just basic. Just do the volcano, I forgot about it.
Starting point is 00:18:45 We're using syrup, olive oil, water, food coloring stuff. Like, yeah, I do a lot of things like that. He's really into it. So it's so funny because Katrina was like concerned, like, you know, I don't know if we should be letting him say that. It's, he, he thinks he makes poison, right? And it comes from like Mario, you know, brothers and poison. Oh, so he's saying, I mean, so he makes poison, right? And it comes from like Mario, you know, brothers and poison. Oh, so he's saying I made poison.
Starting point is 00:19:06 So he makes poison. Like that's what he's always like pretending to make poison. If he's in the sandbox, he's adding rocks and sticks and it's poison and then water, if we're in the bathtub, we're mixing all the shampoos and the stuff to make poison. And then you were wearing a freak out at school? Yeah, yeah. So I mean, I am not where I was like,
Starting point is 00:19:22 It's really lickser. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So like that's his thing, where I was like, It's more of a lickser. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So like that's his thing, right? So he just loves like making all this stuff. So we use a lot of, and I'll just get random stuff out of the, out of the, let's see what happens when we put flour with this, with that, and then he gets a kick out of it. Yeah, we just did, we just did one where you take two cups,
Starting point is 00:19:39 I think I got it right, two cups of baking soda and half a cup of conditioner. And it turns into like, it's like snow. Like you can make snowmen out of it and like it's very messy. Yeah. It has an interaction where you can, you know. Dude, I have to, I have to tell you guys about this. So you guys know how I am in terms of like, you know,
Starting point is 00:20:00 doing things a little too hard, grabbing things, breaking things and you know, anyways, it's been sort of my MO. Well, my youngest is very much along those same in that same vein. And he, he just like gets up and runs really faster. He gets up and grab something and he just does it like really hard and, and like everything. He's rough. It's just rough. Yeah. There's no like gentle hard and like everything is rough. It's just rough. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:25 There's no like gentle soft like movements or anything. It's just bam, let's go. And so I was like on the couch last night and it was time for him to go to bed and he was just getting up, um, you know, from the ground and he goes over to like jump on the couch where the pillow is. And he was just going to like hit his face on the pillow. Like, yeah, like, and jumps up. He literally jumps right into the arm of the couch where it's the, the wood.
Starting point is 00:20:55 Oh, and hits it right in the eye. And he has like the biggest shinier. Buddy, why did you do that? Like it just was like an instant. Like, and I knew cause he started to like, and he never like really cries. He just was kind of like, like trying to, like breathe it out.
Starting point is 00:21:16 You know, he's like, how old is he? He's like, oh yeah, no, she's 11, but like he- Dude, when boys right around that age, when they get hurt, it's the, it's the, yeah. This one they're trying to figure out not to cry. Yeah. And so in, in, in at first I'm like, oh, I'm concerned. And Courtney's coming over trying to give him love and stuff.
Starting point is 00:21:36 And I'm just like, immediately I'm like, okay, so here's what you say at school. You should see the other guy. Oh, I've never heard that. I'm like, it's the joke that everybody is it like seriously black? Yeah. Oh, yeah. And it's like already kind of closing up. And oh, like a real one. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I know. I know. I was a little concerned about it. I didn't make my bed. Yeah. Poor guy, dude, but it just again. And then so like, like father like son. So I'm actually like my routine to go take the trash cans out. I have to like take the trash cans all the way up.
Starting point is 00:22:12 You guys know where my house is where there's huge hill to get all the way to the front of the street. That's annoying. And so yeah, it's annoying. I have to either like walk them all the way up, which, you know, normally we do, just kind of make like a little hike out of it. Um, but if it gets late at night, I have to just like throw in my truck and go. But recently, like I just got this like electric bike.
Starting point is 00:22:30 And so I'm like, I'll make this easy for me. So I take the garbage cans up all full with one hand like this. And I'm just like right in the hole holding it one hand. And they just go all the way up. Yeah. And it was fine going up. Right. But they were empty. And I had to like bring them back down to the house. and they just go all the way up. Yeah, and it was fine going up, right? But they were empty, and I had to like bring them back down to the house, and,
Starting point is 00:22:49 dude, so I'm like going down, and it starts to get to the steep part, and I'm, my hand, so it has the throttle on the right side, and it also has the brake, and I'm holding this trash can in this hand, and the wheels start wobbling on the trash can, and kind of goes to the side and it's a big trash can It's kind of heavy. I'm like like twisting my arm. I'm like, oh no, and so I Grab the the brake and I and I clench on it hard. It's the front brake
Starting point is 00:23:22 Flip over the bike this like like comes up in the air. This is really hard to describe because it was like a lot of like pretzels, weird flip movements that were happening all at once. And I'm like over the bike and I kind of like land on the, um, on one of the pedals, like on my calf and it just like totally in there and gave me a dead leg. And I managed to not really injure myself somehow and I got up and I was just like, oh my god. Wait, so this is in the dark,
Starting point is 00:23:53 your family did another inside? Yes, nobody knew, nobody knew anything. Did you lay on the floor for a second? I just was hobbling in, just like. Let me see your calf, is it all bruised? What happened to you? Yeah, it's all bruised on there, yeah. Let me see, I wanna see if you can pull up this.
Starting point is 00:24:04 You can't see anything, dude. We gotta get a Nescan. Oh, oh. All bruised what happened? We're gonna get a nest I saw peek out you know why doesn't want to show us He has black sox on he went up white-ass lakes He's got the doctor. Yeah, I know. Bro, you better go check that you get some game He has black sox on he went up white ass lakes. Yeah, and it looked like another sock on It was just like a line that just no I'm fine. I don't understand. But yeah, it was, ah, so. Now how, okay, so obviously that stuff happens to all of us, right? No, it doesn't. That never happens to me. You're right, sad.
Starting point is 00:24:51 I'm like, oh, my gosh. I was like, man, I'm not going to climb that rock. It's like four feet, bro. Come on, you can do that. No, I'm not going to do that. It's too good. No way. Hey, listen, I got to say something.
Starting point is 00:25:01 I got to give you a prop, so I saw the videos of you doing drills in the field on performance in advance. This fucker can move, dude. He's a moose. Are you sure they're him or they're the body double ones? No, no, no. I had that from when I got. Oh wait, we used the AI, didn't we?
Starting point is 00:25:15 I think we used Kyle for something. No, bro, he fucking moves. And I was telling him about it. I was here the other morning. Yeah, I was like, disappointed, because it's like, we were talking about like our age and like, you know, some restrictions. And I just feel like tight and like just this old body now that I'm living around, I mean, I forget you were a college football player.
Starting point is 00:25:34 So you obviously, you're obviously slow as hell compared to how you must have been before compared to everybody else. I watched you move on that thing. The real question was, how sore were you after all? Very sore. Where did you get sore? Was it all of the hamstrings? They were just done.
Starting point is 00:25:51 My hamstrings, like it was weird. It was like all the way up my back, you know? Cause just the impact. Like I haven't even just like even pounded the ground like that in a long time. So it was, yeah, it was funny dude. It was just like, you just feel like all the joints just talking back to you. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:06 I wasn't sore at all after I had a bulk advance. It was all like overhead press with 20. Which one of yous have your dumbbells? I'm demonstrating exercise. I'm not like this guy. No, put heavy weight on the bar for the demonstrate. I know what I was thinking. I was trying to do all the complex stuff. I remember when we used to do all of our videos, I remember when Justin was using it. You always wanted real weight on the bar.
Starting point is 00:26:23 Yeah. Put like 185 on there. Yeah. 185 on there. Yeah. 185. It's a video. We're doing it. You know what I can't even see it. It's like six times, right?
Starting point is 00:26:31 I just felt like a total plus. Otherwise, you know, I couldn't do it. No shame in my game. They put the plastic ones on there. I'll just use the bar. I'm just showing technique. I don't know how much I'm working out with you. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:40 It's funny though how many people think that. You know how many people on YouTube have been busted for doing fake weights like that? I know athlete next has been busted on that. I forget if I'm demonstrating technique, then I'm going to show you good technique. I'm not going to show you what I'm working out with. That's stupid. Yeah. Speaking of old guys, tell me about this 42 year old dude that's throwing heat. There is a.
Starting point is 00:26:57 He's supposed to play. There is a. There's a 42 year old dad that is throwing 102 mile an hour fastball and has some tryouts with some MLB teams coming up. So I don't know. So what was the story? You were telling me this. He, he, he got, he got drafted, but they got injured at a college.
Starting point is 00:27:16 So he couldn't ever, he lost his opportunity. Yeah. Yeah. So he, exactly. So he ended up losing his opportunity. He goes through a divorce in like his late thirties and out of, to try and get his mind off of the divorce and stuff like that, picks up throwing again to just meditative. I mean, imagine just like one of us doing something like that,
Starting point is 00:27:32 like imagine going through a divorce through kids and you're like, man, I'm going to do some strength drills. Just mind off of it. Yeah. Play football or basketball. It's a hard time. Right. Right.
Starting point is 00:27:41 And so he did it with that intention and just got back in the rhythm of it and was getting clocked at like 100, 102 miles an hour. Wow, dude. And so now is trying out for some MLB. Bro, can you just real quick, let's just think it is jersey. Oh, first off, as an old guy, like I'm a root for this guy. Oh, big time. I see someone in that age, I'm like, that's my favorite person.
Starting point is 00:28:03 But number two, like his ex-wife, like talk about payback, you know, she, I'm leaving you, you know, it was like pro baseball player now. Yeah. You know, oh, did you look up Andrew after I told you off air, we were talking to, I told you guys about the Bill Belichick. Oh, yeah. Anybody looked that up afterwards? Did you guys look it up?
Starting point is 00:28:21 The Brady conspiracy. Oh, yeah. Yeah. So that to me, first explain the conspiracy. Okay. So that to me, So first explain the conspiracy. Okay. So Bill Belichick, who was the coach of the Patriots got fired this year, which is he's like a, he's known as a top coach, right? One of the best coaches out there.
Starting point is 00:28:34 And there, I think there was, I think three or four NFL coaching opportunities coming up. So the question was, where's he going? He's going to go to the chargers, he's going to go here, like what, what, what team is he going to do? And all those teams ended up signing people. And so it was like, how is Bill Belichick not going to get picked up somewhere? Well, then all of a sudden this conspiracy starts to come out and that
Starting point is 00:28:54 way it starts after Harbaugh leaves, uh, the Michigan state. So Harbaugh is coming, coming back to the pros. Okay. So Michigan state college team, right? Size of leave. And there's a, so there's a coaching opening there. Michigan state is also Tom Brady's alma mater. Tom Brady only played three years of college. So he has one year of eligibility left. And you can come back and play in college. If you've been out of football for a year or more, your, you can, your eligibility is, you couldn't do it like in the same season. Her back. So the conspiracy is Bella checks and go back.
Starting point is 00:29:28 So the conspiracy is that Bella checks and go back to, go back to Michigan. And then he's going to have, he's going to have Tom Brady come and play for him. And they'll go win a national championship. And they can make money too. And now with, and so when that conspiracy first came out, I would have right away dismissed it like that's ridiculous. Tom Brady's worth millions and millions of dollars. No college team could do that, could handle that.
Starting point is 00:29:49 Or why would he do that? It's not worth it to him. But now with the rules in college with NIL and these, these, these, these players can take sponsorships and can take money that way. There's definitely a way you could finagle. And that you would be the most absurd thing ever. It's wouldn't be so brilliant. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:04 You know, I know, I know. I know the ticket is the ticket sales would go through the most viewed football game sales would go through the roof. The television ads that would be good. It would be, I mean, it would be a brilliant play in so many ways. So it's like, I came up with that. I don't know. It was brilliant.
Starting point is 00:30:20 I don't know. I saw it. I know. I said it's my second dream. That's so funny. I mean, I had this like, because I have like one year eligibility left. And I knew of, I heard of a story of, so we had like a school
Starting point is 00:30:32 adjacent to ours that was like a part of his, the Divinity School. Yeah. And so technically it was still part of Trinity where I went. And so this guy actually was able to try out on the football team. He was like in his 40s. Yeah. And he played. And I was just like, what? team. He was like in his forties and he played.
Starting point is 00:30:46 And I was just like, what? Yeah. So I was like, I mean, Kurt Warner's story isn't that crazy, but it's kind of like that. I mean, he was, he was over in the arena football for a long time. And I don't remember how old it was when the Rams finally picked up. He comes over to the Rams later on in his career and then goes. And my, my, my favorite. I have two favorite older guy stories in sports and it's George Foreman,
Starting point is 00:31:07 who won the heavyweight championship. How old was he? 40, 41 in his 40s. And I looked at it and then Randy Couture, Randy Couture was kicking ass. He came out of retirement. Randy Couture came out. He was a announcer. I remember him.
Starting point is 00:31:20 I actually remember when he said he was going to do it. He was watching the heavyweights that were passing the belts around. He's like, man, I could beat all these guys still. when he said he was going to do it. He was watching the heavyweights that were passing the belts around. He's like, man, I could beat all these guys still. And he knew he was retired. Yeah. And then he's like, you know what, and he came out of retirement and then went and won the, won the belt.
Starting point is 00:31:32 He knew for sure. He was, I mean, imagine two at that level. I would think that's how to, I feel like Tom Brady. I feel like Tom Brady could look at the college games and go like, oh, yeah, I could, at 80, 80% I can play. Well, also, also the position the position right if he was like a running back or a wide receiver at 40. Yeah, a really good line. Yeah, if you're a kicker or a quarterback a position like that like it where you're especially a quarterback you need the wisdom
Starting point is 00:31:55 to call the plays and see what's going on the field. Yeah. Yeah. I mean and that I would imagine at that level God just imagine how much of an advantage he has of just being able to see that. Yeah. So you think he would get on the field and call it to just, just murder, murder everybody, murder it. Yes. Yes.
Starting point is 00:32:11 Wow. George form was 45. Wow. When he became the world heavyweight champion. That's this, is this the last decade we could do something like that? Is that what's happening right now? After this decade, I think I think that's the cutoff right there I could imagine
Starting point is 00:32:27 trying to play a professional no I couldn't imagine what if my 20s even when he finally like retired Ryan was up there too oh Nolan Ryan was that's the man these guys Roger Craig was a sport but wait Nolan Ryan was Roger Clemens I want to say was he 50 oh 46 you're right the cutoff is now yeah dude it's approaching yeah Roger Clemens. I want to say was he 50? Oh, 46. You're right. The cutoff is now just. Yeah, dude, it's approaching. Yeah, Roger Clemens was up there too. He was up there with that timeframe. Yeah, I'll give you guys some.
Starting point is 00:32:52 Absolutely the best fishing was towards later. I'll give you guys some, like to make you feel better. Look at Robert De Niro, how old he is right now. Cause he just had a baby. Totally awesome. With his wife, like 20. Was it, is it Robert De Niro? Or was it Al Pacino?
Starting point is 00:33:04 Which one of the guys? Al Pacino. Was it Al Pac Al Pacino, Al Pacino just had a baby with like it. Oh, it was Al Pacino. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Look up Al Pacino. He's literally 80 something. I saw a picture of him holding his baby. I'm like, bro, how do you play on the floor with your kids? I can't.
Starting point is 00:33:16 I don't even like playing on the floor. The 83 dude. Yeah. Look at his wife is 29. She's 29. 29 years old. So see, it still works. Bro, that's 29 29 years old. So see it still works. You're okay. A 54 year difference.
Starting point is 00:33:29 Holy shit. You could be your kid's grandparent. Yeah, definitely. Oh my gosh. That's weird. That's unnatural. Yeah, it doesn't. There's something. Yeah, some off about that's like biblical times. It's her right there. That's her dude. Yeah, she's a pretty that. That's like biblical times. Is that her right there? That's her, dude. Yeah, she's a pretty girl. That's a weird picture of her. Do you believe that's possible for the, for her?
Starting point is 00:33:49 Obviously for him. I mean, congrats. Yeah. Right? But if, if, do you really believe that she can be attracted to that? To someone that is that much older? Do you believe in that? Bro, it's Al Pacino, bro.
Starting point is 00:34:02 But I mean, that's okay. So, so then in that situation, is that her right there to all these pictures? Bro, it's Al Pacino, bro. I mean, he's... But I mean, that's... Okay, so then in that situation... Al Pacino... Is that her right there, to all these pictures? Safety, security, money, like, you know, there's the... Yeah. Is that him in the middle? Is that him in the middle with her?
Starting point is 00:34:13 Right there? Yeah. Oh my God, yeah. That doesn't even look right. He's wise. He's rich. Well, Ann and Nicole Smith was the ultimate example of that. That was bullshit though.
Starting point is 00:34:22 She married that dude so he could die. That guy literally looked like the... Like death. Crypt keeper or whatever. But I mean, you know, I mean, okay, here she is, she's married, she's got a kid, Pechino's, how much longer he's got, you know, 10 years max. And then she's left in her 30s with all his money. I'm not denying the strategy of this, you know what I'm saying? Like that, but my point is like, could you be really into that, you know, that much? Yeah. Like even, even all things you're saying, like those are all
Starting point is 00:34:51 attractive qualities, wisdom and security and all that stuff like that. But I mean, is it, could you, are there people that, that, that skewed that much that looks does means absolutely nothing. So it doesn't matter. It's gotta be bro. There's gotta be. Haven't you ever seen those video? I don't want to go here.
Starting point is 00:35:11 Yeah. No, you know, it's okay. Hey, have you seen those, those, those, those series on, uh, I don't remember what channels like my 600 pound live or whatever, people really struggling terribly. They typically have a partner and they're an enabler. And the partner oftentimes is not, is normal, like in terms of their size and stuff. And they feed them and they, you know, do the whole thing. Doug just highlighted Caldera Lab. It's like, maybe if Al Pacino was doing Caldera Lab, he wouldn't look like he's 85. If you rubbed it all over himself. You think it'll reverse? You better lather up with it. So good. You got to drink it in front of him.
Starting point is 00:35:46 You have to be bathing it, you know, like every night. Just you can afford to bathe. I mean, he's rich enough. We could probably afford to lather himself up like that. Is there anything to those tanks, those oxygen tanks, or the ones that the decompression tanks? Yes. You're talking about hyper, hyper, yes.
Starting point is 00:36:01 Hyperbaric, Jared. Thank you. People pay big money to have those things, dude. I did one. And some of these guys like the Tom Brady's stuff like that, these guys got these in their house and shit or had access to it. I did one.
Starting point is 00:36:11 And they sleep in those. Have you ever been in one before? We've never. Is it? Yep, I was in one. So I had, I used to train a surgeon who also, one of his businesses was these hyperbaric chambers and they use them to speed up recovery from surgery and cancer patients also use them because it made their
Starting point is 00:36:27 treatments much more effective. But he's like, you want to come try and use one like, you lay in this thing, it's like you're in a submarine. And then there was like a little window and there's like a screen in front of me so I could just watch a movie while I'm in there. Yeah, no, I'm pretty sure I'm in pressure. I was just when you when you come out of it, your ear pressure changes. I didn't notice much afterwards, but I don't know.
Starting point is 00:36:48 There's a lot of these guys that have these in their homes, dude. And that, I mean, that's become like a, I believe like LeBron and all those guys, I think they, a lot of them sleep in that. I don't know how often or just after injuries. Now do they use hyperbaric or they sleep in altitude to boost red blood cell production? No, that's what his face does for recycling. They're doing the hyperbaric.
Starting point is 00:37:05 Oh, they're going hyperoxygenation. Yeah. That's the other direction or whatever. Anyway, speaking of Caldera, I tell you guys, my little, my little baby sometimes gets a little eczema. So I put Cal, it was the best thing ever Caldera, best thing ever to use on it. Oh, better than that. Cause what does the doctor recommend?
Starting point is 00:37:21 Um, it's like a petroleum, you know, barrier or whatever. But the caldera. Why is it so common in kids to have like eggs? It's very common. Everything's common now with the autoimmune stuff. It's so crazy. Yeah. It's so crazy that how common it is. There's something, we're doing something and we're very careful. I mean, you know, I think my son has used antibiotics once. Yeah, but most likely it's passed down from your shitty gut. Yeah. Well, no, it's passed down from the mom.
Starting point is 00:37:47 Well, both, no. It's just the mom. The, your microbiome comes from your mom mostly. Mostly, but they're still getting yours. I mean, I've picked up your shitty gut from working with you. That's what you think. I'm convinced. I think you're just catching up on it.
Starting point is 00:37:59 I'm fucking convinced. I think your shitty diet's a problem. I was good to go. And then you came into my life talking about all this gut issue stuff and I know when I met you when I met you was like Chick-fil-A for breakfast I look good it's not shit's were normal I look good it felt good all of a sudden your stomach nothing like psoriasis was at bay like now I'm a man I ever managed all those things more than that it's because you guys made fun of me I want your shitty guy me a that. It's because you guys made fun of me. I want your shitty gut.
Starting point is 00:38:25 I made a little voodoo doll to you guys, poking their tummies. You're going to feel it next. So you have to think you're holding your baby shirtless and playing. You're a lot of your microbiome. Hypercleaning environment, antibiotic use everywhere. It could be chemicals that we're exposed to.
Starting point is 00:38:48 It could be generational. It's probably the case where it's cumulative, but food allergies alone, man. I don't know if you can even find a chart on this. It's exploded over the years. Look up childhood food allergies throughout the decades. It's so crazy. I saw an article of these moms that are pushing for,
Starting point is 00:39:04 because of all the peanut allergies and gluten out and like these moms that are, that are pushing for because of like all the peanut allergies and gluten out and all these allergies that are happening. It was showed a classroom of kids in a music class and they're playing in these like fucking. This is the same like COVID lockdown setup. There's people that there's people that are pushing for that. You know, it's like, oh my God. I mean, I tell people this who are younger, like, you know, we
Starting point is 00:39:24 talked to our editors, they're all in their twenties and stuff. And Oral talked to my kids and like, when I tell people this who are younger, like we talked to our editors. They're all in their 20s and stuff, and Oral talked to my kids, and I'm like, when I was a kid, and I know I sound like my dad when he tell me stories, but it's weird. Did you know anybody with a food allergy at all? No.
Starting point is 00:39:37 Not one. No. Never. It's so, now it's. Now name me a classroom that doesn't have at least three kids. At least. I don't know anybody that has a classroom that doesn't have at least three kids. At least. I don't know anybody that has a classroom that doesn't have a... And that's in combination with the auto mini issues which have exploded all over the place.
Starting point is 00:39:50 That's so weird, dude. Yeah, well, we're doing it to ourselves for sure. It's something that we're doing or a combination of things that we're doing, and we got to figure it out. And they're trying... Really, it's actually a big area of study because, wow, what is that show, Doug? So these are people or children discharged from hospitals under the age of 18 for things related to food allergies. It looks like almost a four-time increase from 1998 to 2004.
Starting point is 00:40:18 Not even today, that's 2004. That's 2004. How much you wanna bet is even a short window there. How much you wanna bet now it's even far worse. Yeah, that's just, basically that's 4x from when we went high school So if 4x from when we high school to 2004 and then since then it's another 20 years. Yeah, I'm sure it's even crazy Oh, wow speaking of kids and stuff. I got pulled up some interesting. There's an interesting data from act children's activity levels in 1975 compared to 2000 compared to
Starting point is 00:40:51 2015 so 1975 would represent zero on this chart, meaning that's the control. Okay. So how many, how much kids played outside? How much kids did sports? How much kids, whatever. Okay. Since 1975 to 2000 outdoor play in 2000 was down almost 20%. 2015, 30%. So almost 30% less time spent outside. Do you know, I believe it's so much worse than that. This is from the UK. So it might even be worse than that. I think it's so much worse than that.
Starting point is 00:41:18 It's become normal that we see this, but I have a really cool neighborhood. Like I love the neighborhood that I live in right now. And it's, I think it's got a really cool community. I, like, I know all the people and everybody's like out garage open and you see people walking over. But, you know, I grew up in a time where every day you were in the neighborhood, there was at least three, four groups of kids throughout the whole
Starting point is 00:41:45 street or block, always out in the street playing and throwing the ball and shoot. And it just, that show me a neighborhood in the, at least in the Bay area where you go. After school, if you drove a car through a neighborhood, when school is out, you had to be very careful. Yes. Because balls were flying around, kids were running, riding their bikes. Um, now it's like ghost town.
Starting point is 00:42:06 It's rare. Yeah. It's so rare to see that. So I feel like the number 20 and 30% is like under representation. I feel like it's way worse than that. It feels like it doesn't. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:16 Yeah. Did you see, um, little switch, but staying in the kids will still with Disney, right? Did you see the article I sent over that? So, uh, Andrew sent it to me yesterday that I, I think I just sent it to you. Did you see the art class sent over that? So Andrew sent it to me yesterday. But I think I just sent it to you. Did you see it? What Disney bought Staken? What is that?
Starting point is 00:42:31 Bro, Disney bought $1.8 billion stake in Fortnite. Epic games, in Epic games. So they're moving. They've created worlds within, they're creating it with them. Yes. Yeah, for them to pull it. So they're building it, are you pulling it up, Doug?
Starting point is 00:42:46 My son actually showed me that. Cause he's all into it. Yeah. So I, and actually I wanted to, I sent it to Sal because I wanted to hear Domenico's opinion. I actually wanted to hear somebody who's like heavy into a fortnight in these games to tell me like how cool this could be or not be because it's, it's obviously out of totally how wild.
Starting point is 00:43:06 So you own Epic Games owns Fortnite. They can literally sell space in their video game to Disney for $1.5 billion. Without even buying the company. Yeah. Literally they're like, yeah, you can spend money and build something. You can have some real estate in here for this much. Yeah. Wow. I mean, they're like, yeah, you can spend money and build something. He has some real estate in here for this much. Wow. Yeah, that's nice. I mean, they're really going, I mean, it was kind of quiet,
Starting point is 00:43:28 this whole metaverse talk for a while. Right. And it felt like it really had fallen off. And this, it feels like we're going to go. I mean, I get it though, like, and I've already fallen off completely. I told you guys that I was trying to like, hey, I'm going to play once. And I was done. But they're just so into the creation of the characters.
Starting point is 00:43:50 Like there's just so much opportunity for them to like build things within there, like the community. It's like it literally is ready player one is exactly like Fortnight's platform. That's what the, you know, the potential of it could be like the metaverse and where they just expand it and keep going with all these characters that they create. And plus the exclusivity of the different seasons that they have for each, you know, skin that they can earn or whatever. And it's like, it becomes its own economy in that sense. Okay.
Starting point is 00:44:21 Because you trade them or they can buy upgrades and all that kind of stuff. Okay. So I'm glad you use that. And cause I, that's how I was trying to, I was trying to wrap my brain around this, cause this is so foreign to me. I don't, I don't play any of these games and I'm not aware of it, but ready player one was what exactly what I thought is when they, when I was reading the article of like how they're describing this, it's going to be all these worlds and you're going to plug in and play whatever games you want.
Starting point is 00:44:42 And just like, remember the, the, the part when it first starts, the movie starts, it opens up with him and he's like, looking to meet up with his buddy. He's like, where are you at? Yeah. Oh, he's probably over in whatever world and it's like, where he's doing all this crazy, like doom type of like stuff. And then there's another world that's all race car stuff.
Starting point is 00:44:57 It's like, it sounds like it's going to be like that. It is. I bet too. Right. So this is the digital space, but now let's bring that into the physical parks where they have these warehouses where you put on the, you know, the laser tag kind of gear and you're in VR and you're doing, you're still playing the Fortnite like setup, but you're doing it physically, you know, like that.
Starting point is 00:45:21 I saw that they had some of this, some of these warehouses, they're already doing that. You know, where they're doing VR like physically with other people. So this is, I'm banking on that, right? So Disney's my big bet stock wise. I'm not a stock guy, nor should you listen to me for advice. But this is what I've put more, I've bought more stock in Disney than anything else.
Starting point is 00:45:41 And part of that strategy was because they took a big hit this last couple of years, bad pub and everybody's hating on them. So that, which has been good for stock price, but they're going really hard in this direction and then the theme parks theme parks. And I do believe that there's going to be a massive resurgence in in-person type stuff. And maybe it looks like this where it's kind of a blended version of, you know,
Starting point is 00:46:08 adopting some of the metaverse type of virtual world type shit. And then at the same time, well, the theme parks was really profitable for them. Aren't they? Both, dude. Yeah. I think, I think both of these are, and Disney really hasn't made a move in the, you know, the video game world. No. Like imagine a company that creative. And this will be the first big thing. Yes. And, and so that's a big, that's a big play for them and a very profitable space. Uh, if it does well, if it does really well, it'll only boost, uh, interest in
Starting point is 00:46:33 their theme parks and other things. Everything. Right. So I mean, I'm, by the way, do you know how expensive Disney is now? I'm excited. My daughter was there. Like it's so crazy. The tickets are so.
Starting point is 00:46:42 Really is so expensive. Oh, the Disneyland. Yeah. So just speaking of expensive in the economy, like so I thought this was an interesting strategy and I thought Adam might appreciate this. This was a Wendy strategy going into, I think it's next year or they were actually gonna start like testing out, you know how with Uber,
Starting point is 00:47:04 like there's different rates in terms of like volume when there's like high traffic times and not and then the price points kind of fluctuates because of that. Yeah. So they're gonna start testing that out within the Wendy's in food. So they're going to run discounts like at low traffic areas. Yes. Like low traffic times. Yes. Like low traffic times. Low traffic times. Interesting.
Starting point is 00:47:26 And then they keep the price the same or higher at like a high traffic. That's actually smart, right? That's really smart. That's really, what an interesting strategy. That's actually a very smart strategy. They increase the price a little bit during the high traffic times where it's five to seven
Starting point is 00:47:40 when everybody goes to get dinner. Yeah. No, it's a ghost town. You're catering to two to three. Yeah, and you're catering to customers who want low price or whatever. Yeah, they absolutely need to. Like, hey, saving 50 cents on the meal is a big deal to us.
Starting point is 00:47:51 So we'll ship. It'll help the employees, because when you get that much volume, I'm really like, yeah, like even like in and out and all that, it's just ridiculous. Then you become more efficient, right? You become more efficient. Interesting, wow, that is smart.
Starting point is 00:48:02 That's a very interesting strategy. What is it going to play? Uh, yeah, I don't know when, when, uh, you see the next year, like in, in, in a quarter or two. Yeah. So I wonder if anybody's following suit. Now, you know, it's interesting about that. This is my herd.
Starting point is 00:48:14 I don't think. What is it? 2025. Yeah. As early as 2025. Okay. And did it say, is there like, the prices are going to be, does it say? It's just, they just call it dynamic pricing and day part offering.
Starting point is 00:48:25 So it's going to, it's going to adjust over time. Dynamic. Anything else you're familiar with it does that, that has dynamic pricing like that? It was just Uber's. Uber, yeah. They mentioned. I mean, technically all products meet, you know, you know, demand and supply. So it's all dynamic, but not where a company is applying it in such a, you know,
Starting point is 00:48:43 like throughout the day type of, you know, it's interesting. I don't, so here's the thing. I don't think, I don't think it's going to slow down. Oh, you know what movie theater tickets? Oh yeah. That's another, that's an example. But movie theater tickets make sense because the space in the movie and the movie theater is, it makes the same sense that the Wendy's things does. No, the food doesn't run out. It just has to, you're just waiting more, but the food, you still have to pay your employees the same. I think what I don't think, oh, you think that they, well, I guess the movie
Starting point is 00:49:06 seats would potentially sell. I think what's going to happen is I don't think that Wendy's is going to lose sales during high traffic times. I think it's just going to make their low traffic times. I think, yeah, I think that's the, I think that's the play. I think that's exactly what the, well, it's cut. I guess it's not that crazy different than when McDonald's rolled the, the Wednesday and Sunday cheeseburgers they use, they look their lowest traffic days
Starting point is 00:49:28 and they ran a sale, they ran those or happy hour at bars. They do that. Yeah. Yeah. So they ran, they ran the 29 cent cheeseburger hamburger. So it's not as revolutionary. Yeah. It's just, I've never heard anybody like deliberately, it's a, it's a different, it's different though, because you can like, at least then I was, I mean, you had to have the cheeseburgers or hamburgers, right? If you were going specific food, yeah, specific where this will have you probably the flexibility of whatever. I wonder if people take advantage of it and they make them, you know, reverse. Of course.
Starting point is 00:49:54 I mean, how do you take advantage of it though? You go and buy 15, you know, burgers and then what, hold onto it for four hours and then sell it. No, that's what you would do. You'd be at the door. My burger is cold. You'd be at the door. My burger's cold. You'd be at the door. I figured the march.
Starting point is 00:50:07 Hey, you want a Wendy's burger? You can save 25 cents by five. That's an Adam's trench coat of burger. Take literally burger flipping to a whole another level, right? Yeah, dude. Nice. Hey, I know earlier we were talking about
Starting point is 00:50:22 food allergies and autoimmune issues. And, you know, I should you know earlier we were talking about at food allergies and autoimmune issues and You know, I should have gone right into our partner seed because probiotics or beneficial bacteria have been shown to be helpful In both cases, but more generally with inflammation probiotic use is Immunomodula it Modulates your immune system meaning it helps balance out your immune system and autoimmune issues means you have an immune system that's not balanced. It also has anti-inflammatory properties.
Starting point is 00:50:52 So probiotics are, it's turning out that what the data is showing, at least with a good probiotic, right? Like a good company that's got good delivery and all that stuff. It's turning out that probiotics will probably be a supplement that is more necessary than not. Yeah. That people should probably. I know. I just think we're all finding that out. I feel like it's, it's getting more, way more common like that. I remember, in fact, when, I remember when you really wanted to work with Ced and I thought, really,
Starting point is 00:51:15 do you think there's that many people they're going to be? And I was actually blown away. I mean, still it's been a, they've been a long time sponsor of the show and it does really well. So have you actually got the children's one yet from them? No, no. Oh, we have that. Yeah. Yeah, we have it. We've had it for, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:30 For, I'm surprised you didn't. I thought for sure you'd be all over that. I don't know that we had that. Yeah. Yeah. They have it. They have it to match. They have a children.
Starting point is 00:51:36 Yeah. They have a children's product. So they have a, look it up Doug on the thing, pulled up for him. So you can see, I don't know what the, maybe you can tell me what the difference is. Lower, lower dose. You think it's the same thing? me what the difference is. It's lower, lower dose. You think it's the same thing? It's the same strains. Same thing.
Starting point is 00:51:48 I guarantee you just a lower dose. Yeah, it'll be a much lower. You wouldn't think they add anything else in there for children? I would think that way. No, unless, I mean, I'm sure it's a chewable. Is it a chewable or powder? Yeah, it's Katrina gets it. It's not going to be a pill.
Starting point is 00:51:59 Yeah, no, it's not. It's not pill. It's a, I think it's a, but it would be the same bacteria. It's a little powder sticks. Yeah, it's powdered. Yeah. And it's the not, it's not pill. It's, it's a, I think it's, but it would be the same bacteria. It's a little powder sticks. Yeah, it's powdered. Yeah. And it's the same strains, I'm assuming it's just a lower concentration. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:11 You're not going to give your kid the, you know, the same strength. Cool though, right? Yeah. Yeah. Done. Oh yeah. Right. And you can put it in yogurt and stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:52:18 I'm going to get it. I think Katrina mixes it into his yogurt. I think is what we do. Wow. Mm hmm. Hey, a little, little left turn here. I read something pretty funny about, um, a prank that a U S athlete played on the Russian athletes in during the, the era of like the
Starting point is 00:52:36 Soviets versus Americans or whatever. Oh yeah. Okay. So nine time a limping champion, Mark Spitz. So he was, uh, one of the fastest swimmers of all time. Okay, American. He told the Russian swim team coach in 1972 that the reason why he was so fast is because he had a mustache. So the very next year, every Russian swimmer had a mustache.
Starting point is 00:52:57 No, is that true? Yeah, is that true story? Yeah. That's ridiculous. Isn't that great? That is great. Hey guys, this is why I'm so fast. It's a secret.
Starting point is 00:53:07 I love it. Hey, you know what else is funny? You know what I like about, one of my favorite things about X, right, formerly known as Twitter, are their community notes, because their community notes are hilarious. So this guy, there's this page on there called Eclipse Trades. So it's this dude that's like, this is how you make money. This is whatever, right? Okay.
Starting point is 00:53:26 So he posts this picture of this, this like gorgeous house with the Lamborghini in front of it. Yeah. And the post says three years ago, I got kicked out of high school today at 19 years old. I just closed on my $2.3 million. Oh, I saw that the guy goes take risks in life. And then they did somebody outed him.
Starting point is 00:53:42 It's underneath it was community notes. Yeah. And it said this house was not purchased by so-and-so. It currently is for rent. He's engaging in a form of advertising fraud to present himself as more successful than he actually is. So you know, that's what it says, dude. Dude, this is so, so I was talking to our friend, Chris Nagybi. I love it. I was talking to our friend, Chris Nagybi, about this and it's like, it's so he actually,
Starting point is 00:54:01 he did this, he posted like a statistic on like actually how many billionaires there are like in the United States and then how many millionaires there actually are by by percentage, then also what ages they arrange it. And it's like, it's, it's not even mathematically possible that there's this many 30 year old multi millionaires, but yet on Instagram, you would think there's fucking tens of thousands of them. Smoking mirrors. Because they all do this puzzle. Or they all rent a car.
Starting point is 00:54:29 They rent these cars, they rent these big houses. See, there's that place down in LA where you can literally, at the airport, you can just walk up in a private jet, take your pictures, do all that. They rent it out, so you just take pictures like you're eating for social media. That's it. Here's a thing too, like an obvious red flag. Something about that makes me so mad. Here's an obvious red flag.
Starting point is 00:54:49 So cringe. If you're making millions, especially if you claim to make tens of millions of dollars doing whatever craft you're in, you would never waste your time selling $100, $500, $1,000 courses. Yeah. It would be a waste of your time, mathematically. Right. It would be a waste of your time to get on Zoom calls and talk to a bunch of young people,
Starting point is 00:55:08 talk to 20 people, we spent 500 bucks. That's right. It would not be worth your time to do that. So right away, that should be your red flag that this person who has all these Lamborghinis and homes that are worth tens of millions of dollars is spending time for their $500 course they're selling you.
Starting point is 00:55:24 Like that should make you go, Hmm, that doesn't make sense. Why isn't he just talking to CEOs and staying in that? Or just keep or do more of what you're doing. Because if you're already, if you're making 10 million, 10 million dollars a year, you have to do the hourly math on that. You're worth thousands and thousands of dollars by the hour. And so anything that is less than that is not worth your time.
Starting point is 00:55:46 You should just do more of your craft. Either in a line or you're the worst business man. But that's all these guys online. That's what they do is they make all these radical claims that they own. You know who's the other one? What's this guy's name? Oh, Chris Cron.
Starting point is 00:56:00 I just found him. And he's funny to watch because it's almost like a parody. And he's talking about how millions of dollars he's worth. He's got hundreds of company zones. I'll say buy my coaching course for $500. This is like, well, you're worth all that money with the fuck are you doing that for? You have no, no reason to do that. Go, go flip another 10 houses or flip another five companies and you'll,
Starting point is 00:56:20 you won't have to coach one person. It makes no sense. It reminds me of like old, like old martial arts books before MMA, MMA cleaned out a lot of this crap, but old martial arts like masters, discover the fighting secrets that nobody wants you to know. And it's like so-and-so, Sifu who, you know, kills 15, beating up whatever.
Starting point is 00:56:37 It's the five finger death palm. Yeah. And I remember I used to, I was a kid, I used to buy these things. Like, oh my God, this is like ancient fighting techniques. Nobody wants to know. And then, and then UFC came out and I was like, oh crap. They all, they said, buy these things. Like, oh my God, this is like ancient fighting techniques. Nobody wants to know. And then, and then UFC came out. I was like, oh, crap. They all, I mean, it's the oldest hustle of time.
Starting point is 00:56:51 And I, I don't know. I don't ever see it going away because there is, there's a much larger portion of people that don't want to do the work. People want to get rich, but they want to do it fast and easy. They're willing to believe it. They're willing to take out a loan to pay for the shortcuts. Somehow there's a secret. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:10 Because they think that there's going to be some sort of hack or shortcut to get there and, and they're convinced by this person that they have that. And again, the four, if you're listening, the formula is they're literally just going to, this person claims to be making all this money. Whatever the number is that they claim to be making, all you have to do is divide the math and how many hours they're working hours are on a day and what that would mean based on what they say,
Starting point is 00:57:34 their time is worth. And then scratch your head when they tell you that they have a course. No, they, you know why Adam, they're doing it because they want to share. Yeah, that's what they pitch people. But it's not, they're giving back. That's not the same. Those people don't do that. If they do that, they just do they pitch people. They're giving back. That's
Starting point is 00:57:45 not the same. Those people don't do that. If they do that, they just do a nonprofit and they give it for free. They really cared about you and they're making that much money. Then I would just host big free things. It's like, if I'm not wealthy, if I'm making tens of millions of dollars and I care about giving back to the community, then I would dedicate time to give back to the community for nothing because that money is so minimal to what I make that it would, it doesn't make sense. That's a great way to figure it out.
Starting point is 00:58:09 Yes. Seriously. Go shout out. Chris Cron. Go check them out. Oh yeah. Don't do that. I was hating me. Yeah. It's just not following me.
Starting point is 00:58:20 Yeah. No, you're just kidding. I'm being a dick. Did I already shout out the ballerbusters on here? Yeah. Did I shout them out Andrew officially or did I, no, no, I'm being a dick. I'm being a dick. Did I already shout out the ballerbusters on here? Yeah. Did I shout them out, Andrew, officially? Or did I? I don't think I did have.
Starting point is 00:58:30 I've talked to you guys about it. I don't think I've officially shouted them out. Let me double check. Look up. If I haven't shouted them out, take a look at ballerbusters. It's perfect for this conversation we're having right now. This is what they built. Yeah, two, two, three, eight. Give them some more love then. Give them some more love.
Starting point is 00:58:48 They need more love. I mean, I just love pages like this that are dedicated to like calling out all these scammers and stuff. So it's like, it's a ballerbusters. Yeah, ballerbusters on Instagram. Go check them out. If you're looking to get your hormone levels tested thinking about possible hormone therapy or testosterone replacement therapy, or you're interested in peptide science and what they could do for you, your health, your athletic performance, your appearance, your sleep, your sex drive and more. Go to mphormones.com.
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Starting point is 00:59:54 and you strengthen the body, strengthen the muscles that support the joints, joints actually stay healthier over longer periods of time. Like somebody who works out and does it right and doesn't beat themselves up or have muscle imbalances or train whatever they train appropriately and they're in their 70s, they will have better, healthier joints than people who don't do that, who are in their 70s.
Starting point is 01:00:15 It's balance. I mean, it's if you get too strong in one direction, a lot of times this, you know, the, and you don't put the work in in terms of stabilizing that and being able to control that. This is where you see like that discrepancy itself is where you start to see a lot of the joint pain start to arise because, and this is what people don't consider because they, they think that they're getting strong and they are getting a lot stronger, but they're not building up their support system alongside it.
Starting point is 01:00:44 Ben Gay and Icy Hot, you're welcome. Yeah. Do you mix them together? No. Oh my god. Hey, does that seem like... Hey, don't wash your hands. Hey, that was the formula, you know, 25...
Starting point is 01:00:55 That's what my dad did for 20 years. 25 years ago, you see? I mean, don't you remember when you first were a trainer just 20 years ago, like the locker room? Bro, mix those... The locker in the locker room. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:02 Smells. After playing basketball with all the older guys at nine o'clock in the morning. Yeah. It just, bro, medicine cabinet, mix those with tiger bomb. You make yourself, you won't feel nothing. It's crazy that there's still a massive market for that. I mean, that's kind of the, what people think is, well, look, here, look, if you move, here's the keys are here, the keys, uh, strength, train properly
Starting point is 01:01:21 and appropriately with full range of motion, train in different planes of motion, um, and work on or maintain mobility. So that means you're not just strength training, but mobility movements. If you do those things and you do it appropriately, you're going to have amazing joints. I'm going to skip to the last one as the most priority. I think people that get into the 40 plus, they've just,
Starting point is 01:01:43 they've neglected to move in all these different planes and a mobility practice. We'll solve that. We'll solve that. Yeah. So a great program, our maps performance program, every other, the off days are the mobility days. And instead of approaching the workouts as the priority, the foundational days, approach the mobility days as, as your like primary, like that's the thing you focus on.
Starting point is 01:02:08 I mean, this was for me at, and I was 38, what was that? It was around 38 or so. Um, I went on that like year long, year and a half, two year kick of just, that was the way I train. Everything was focused around mobility. And it's not like I lost a bunch of muscle from that. Like you, you're going to end and you end up feeling so much better, but you just got to prioritize it. It becomes, instead of prioritizing the squat bench, deadlift stuff that we always talk
Starting point is 01:02:35 about are so important. It's like, put your energy and focus in mobility training first. And then that becomes the secondary thing of making sure you do this. And I'm not saying, but I mean, disregard those movements. Right, because it's important to understand that appropriate and proper strength training makes your joints healthier and less, you'll have less pain, you'll have less problems, you'll be less likely to develop cartilage issues. The problem with that statement is that- I say appropriately and properly. Exactly. Because that's such a wide range and most people think what they're doing is
Starting point is 01:03:04 appropriate and appropriate and appropriate. Appropriate meaning you're using a weight that you can manage with good technique and good form. You're working out or trying to work out in full ranges of motion and you're training in different planes of motion. So what are different planes? Different planes are like front to back, side to side and rotate. So think of it that way, right? So if all your exercises are Front to back like I'm squatting. I'm benching. I'm deadlifting. Well, I'm not strengthening things Laterally side to side. I'm not rotating with anything. So eventually I'll start to develop problems because like Justin said
Starting point is 01:03:38 You get you start to get this imbalance Between the strength you can do in one direction and the strength you can move in the other direction And then that causes problems. That's the thing too and I love mobility get this imbalance between the strength you can do in one direction and the strength you can move in the other direction. And then that causes problems. That's the thing too. And I love mobility. You know, obviously this has been like a big, um, contribution that I brought initially when we started the podcast, but it's like, you don't need to always like be stuck doing mobility in conjunction.
Starting point is 01:03:59 Like you need to weave in these movements into your training. And so if you actually did lateral lunges, if you actually did rotational movements that are loaded, you worked your way up to that where it's a strength move, you know, it's going to cover the basis. It's just about expressing all the potential that your joints have in terms of movement and being able to strengthen it. So the reason why I love the idea of going all in on the mobility thing and making the strength training and traditional stuff, an afterthought into this is because once
Starting point is 01:04:30 you do that and you, and you start to see the benefits and you feel the benefits of doing that, you then adopt that philosophy. And then when you put enough time in, I actually rarely ever have to do mobility anymore. Now I just incorporate the exercise. So you're talking about somebody who's already experiencing it. Yeah, yeah, that's this person.
Starting point is 01:04:47 Most people have it. That's this person. They're 47 years old. They're, oh man, my hips, my knees, my, all these shoulders. I just like, I get a little bit of rhythm. Well, that's different. If you already have pain, then yeah. Yeah, yeah, that's what I'm talking about.
Starting point is 01:04:59 I'm not talking to the 35 year old who's, who's like, just, I'm trying to be proactive. Cause let's be honest, that person's not asking this question. It's the person who feels like every time they get in a little bit of a rhythm, the knees start talking to them, the hips start talking to them, the shoulders start talking to them. And they just keep getting in this cycle of, and they either one, they either do crutches by putting wraps and straps and belts and, and wrap it up or shortening range up. And it's like, you know what you need to do is you need to just let go of that
Starting point is 01:05:25 training for a little bit, completely adopt this philosophy of becoming the mobility guy and get into flow and that type of stuff and see how good you feel from that and how little muscle you lose from going to become that, that guy or girl. And then after you've put enough work in and you see the difference, then you integrate exercises that, that address all that. You start to do things like the windmill now or the Turkish kid up. You're building base of strength for your end ranges. Yes.
Starting point is 01:05:53 I don't have to. You don't have that strength. The amount of I had to do to get where I'm at now and how little I do of it now. And now I have a deep full range of motion squat that I can sit astagrass that I can sit astagrass. I can sit down astagrass comfortably with weight on my back for as long as I want. I don't, I don't ever get uncomfortable in there to where, and then you're talking
Starting point is 01:06:12 about a guy who couldn't break 90 at one point in his lifting career. But, and, and now all I have to do is squat once a week, astagrass like that. And it takes care of all that ankle and hip mobility issues that I used to have and low back issues. And it completely addresses that getting there as hard Yeah, the same thing goes for like overhead press There was a time when I was the meathead guy whose shoulder pressed 90 degrees
Starting point is 01:06:32 Everything was in front of him and I couldn't bring my arms up straight above it And then I got to the point where z pressing changed my life and now as long as I z press and do or do complete standing overhead presses I don't have to do all these crazy shoulder mobility moves because it keeps my shoulders hypermobile. So if once you once you have lost a lot of this mobility and you're suffering from this this joint this joint pains, one of the best things in my opinion is to kind of adopt this mobility philosophy and a good way to do that would be to prioritize like the mobility days in our in our way to do that would be to prioritize like the mobility days in our performance program and maybe only do one or two foundational days. But to prevent, to prevent, right? If they're saying I want to keep my joints functionally healthy, like move in different planes and you'll
Starting point is 01:07:15 probably never get that point. Yeah. Next question is from Kato Graham. Do I need to drop my protein goals when I'm cutting? I'm 5'1, so my calorie budget is pretty small. When you're cutting, it is even more important to hit high protein targets. So high protein is easier too. It's important for any goal, muscle building, or burning body fat, but it's even more important for burning body fat because it's crucial for preventing muscle loss. And also it produces satiety. So it helps your appetite, which is always a challenge when people are trying to cut.
Starting point is 01:07:51 So if you have a small calorie budget, there's two things I would say. Number one, reverse diet. So you don't have such a small calorie budget. Even though you're five one, if your cut is 1200 calories, you're probably need to reverse diet a little bit and get yourself so that you can burn more calories.
Starting point is 01:08:07 So you can cut from a higher place. Number two, uh, if that's not you and you're still like, okay, well, you know, what do I do with my macros? As long as you eat essential fat, I mean, you, you, you're good. So obviously if you're not getting essential fats and your proteins are too high and now you can't get enough fats, cause otherwise you'll be over calorie. That's an issue. And again, in which case I would say reverse diet now you can't get enough fats because otherwise you'll be over calorie. That's an issue. And again, in which case I would say reverse diet, you shouldn't be in a
Starting point is 01:08:29 place where you hit, you know, one gram of protein per pound of body weight. And then you have no room left for essential fats in your diet or any carbs in your diet. So I don't, I don't think I've ever had a client where I asked them to reduce protein, uh, to cut calories ever, ever, ever, ever, ever. The only time I've ever told a client to reduce protein is digestive issues. Cause sometimes clients have a hard time with high protein diets, uh, and, and it's something to do with their digestion.
Starting point is 01:08:55 And then so we lower our protein intake. Other than that, um, I have many times increased protein intake in a calorie deficit to the point that you were making. And what's the most important piece of this question that we don't have is where is this person's calories? Because you're telling us your calorie budget is small, how small is it? If it's under 1500 calories, then you have to do what Sal's saying. Where you're at is not sustainable. It is not sustainable to cut down to 1200 calories, even to reach this temporary goal, because it's eventually going to come back and it's going to come roaring back, and it can be hard to keep that to 1200 calories, even to reach this temporary goal, because it's eventually going to come back and it's going to come roaring back and can be
Starting point is 01:09:27 hard to keep that off. So if you're under 1500 calories, or that's where below that is where your cut is going to be, you're, you need to go the other way, focus on building muscle, building strength and adding calories to the diet. And honestly, do that in such a small amount that you should probably lean out. If you just do a small increase in calories, focus on building muscle and getting stronger. You should get leaner as a result. Yeah, and the other thing too is, you know, when you're in a calorie surplus,
Starting point is 01:09:55 those extra calories are protein sparing, meaning you don't need like high protein is not as important in a bulk. It's important, but it's not as important a bulk. But when you're in a cut, do not eat low protein in a cut. You are, you are asking your body to get rid of muscle if you do that. Next question is from Adrian. Can running strengthen the ankles if they're weak? You know, here's, okay. Technically yes, but here's why in the real world.
Starting point is 01:10:24 No, because running is a skill. You know, here's, okay, technically yes, but here's why in the real world, no. Because running is a skill, it's not something that people practice and get good at. They just go out and run. It's explosive. Yeah. It's, it's dynamic. It's explosive. If you have weak ankles and then you just go start to run your, your running patterns are going to be based off of the weakness that you have. And so what's going to happen is you're going to end up strengthening the weakness. In other words, you're going to be strengthening muscle recruitment patterns that help suboptimal.
Starting point is 01:10:53 They move around or they compensate for weak ankles. If you have weak ankles and you start running, here's what'll happen to you. Either A, you'll get ankle pain or most likely back pain and knee pain. This is very common where people start running and like, why do my knees hurt so much? Why do my knees hurt so much? And they try to get different shoes and cushion or more cushion in their feet
Starting point is 01:11:12 and whatever. But no, if you have weak ankles, you want to do controlled strengthening exercises to strengthen your ankles and then slowly progress yourself to the point where then you can run while maintaining good technique and form with the stronger ankles. But don't just jump into running. It's not only that, but you're, you're also strengthening the ankles in the same plane and most common injuries when it comes to weak ankles is like rolling the
Starting point is 01:11:36 ankle and stuff like that. And so you're getting maybe a little, a little bit stronger ankles from running in the sagittal plane all the time, but that now that creates an even greater imbalance between that and your ability to move laterally. And so you're more susceptible to rolling an ankle, doing something left or right or rotating. So, you know, doing some running, which is not even, and it's not even taking the ankle through full range of motion either.
Starting point is 01:12:01 So now you're doing a repetitive movement. You're strengthening it in a shortened, a shortened range of motion in the same plane. Explosively. Yeah, explosively. You're not doing your ankles any favor by going out and running. Like if you're, if you've been told you have weak ankles, then you should strength them in their fullest range of motion and dynamically. But controlled. And if they're weak, you got to start. Start strengthening the feet, start strengthening it. And if they're weak, you got to start where it's appropriate. Strengthening the fees, search strengthening, I mean, really gradually. I do like, you know,
Starting point is 01:12:29 after you go through the process of stabilizing and, you know, adding mobility and like ways to strengthen, you know, the potential from all different planes. I have seen some interesting progression in terms of like, we were talking about those platforms that have a little bit of an angle to them in just doing common squats or things with your ankles challenged on a little bit of a degree. So, you know, kind of gradually increasing the range with that, you know, that would make sense to me as a trainer. But that's again, you know, that's, that's a little bit further along, you know, the process, but that would, the first step is to just really strengthen the feet and work on good walking patterns.
Starting point is 01:13:11 We're working on all that. I did a video for this a long time ago. I don't know. Maybe Andrew can find it. I don't remember what I, what it was. I think it was titled week ankles, maybe. Uh, it was, you put a quarter, you go barefoot and you put a quarter under, uh, the, the, the soft pad where the big toe is at and you're trying to drive.
Starting point is 01:13:28 And what's really common when people, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, elevate their heels is their, their heels will kick out or collapse because their ankles are unstable and weak. And so the exercise is being able to drive through the quarter, keep your ankles in a neutral position. And then the progression to that is to go into a body weight squat. From there. From there.
Starting point is 01:13:50 And that's a great, you know, ankle strength. If you have weak ankles, your risk of injury is much higher in your ankles. And so then you're going to go run. Like terrible idea. It is not going to strengthen your ankles. I know the whole like, what doesn't kill me makes me stronger type of deal. But it's this is the one thing that'll kill you. Next question is from Iwalina.
Starting point is 01:14:10 Lika, what is the best way to fire your CNS prior to a workout? For example, we're doing dump these squats or ISO holds using a suspension trainer be okay to do. All right. So the central nervous system is the command center that tells the muscles to fire and the central nervous system is very, very responsible for the amount of force and strength you can generate. Just like your muscles are responsible, the size of your muscles and the capacity of your muscles, the central nervous system is also, if not more responsible for force production and strength.
Starting point is 01:14:45 It literally is what tells the muscles to contract and move together. And it's the reason why when you do a new exercise, you feel shaky. It's not the muscles. It's the central nervous system. So the question is, how do I get my central nervous system ready so that I can have the best workout? Well, um, isometrics is a great way to do that. Isometrics is one of the best ways to get your CNS to really ramp up so that
Starting point is 01:15:08 when you go do an exercise, you activate the most muscle fibers and you get the best results. Another way to do it is to do explosive exercises before you lift. Um, box jumps before a squat or jumping pushups before a bench press or explosive band rows before barbell rows or something like that. That'll also get things to fire up. But yeah, you want to turn things on and it's not to fatigue by the way.
Starting point is 01:15:33 So if you're doing these isometrics, it's not part of the workout. It's literally just turn things on, then you get in the workout and you just get better results. So that was a long-winded answer to yes. Yes. The answer is... Duffy squat's actually great for squatting and just because of that fact alone
Starting point is 01:15:48 that's all I was describing, it's just you're able to get in position to really contract and tense up the muscles to respond. And it's all about the recruitment process. So like really nothing, I mean, yes, you can go explosively, but in terms of like safety and like if we measure risk versus reward,
Starting point is 01:16:06 you know, I'd probably lean a little more on the isometric side, but yeah for athletes, if you do like days where you're PR-ing or something, that's where they do that post activation Potentiation and you can do that. It does it gets it gets that real fast twitch response which gets your capacity increase of, of the recruitment process. Yeah. I mean, the dumpy squats, I think is incredible. I think suspension trainers are a good idea for some movements too. I could see doing a, a hold in like a really deep chest press,
Starting point is 01:16:36 right? So go into a really deep chest press hold or getting in like the, uh, W or I position with the suspension trainer. Shoulders. Yeah. And activating that and holding that in an isometric position to warm up your shoulders and get ready for a bench press or shoulder press stuff. Like, yeah, no, I could, uh, the suspension trainer and dump these quads. I think you guys ever see like, uh, uh, like a how a fighter MMA fighters do this often as they're walking to the cage, they'll do a couple of jumps. You ever seen that right before they get into the jumps with their knees to their
Starting point is 01:17:04 stern and it's a natural, I don't know even if they're coached to do that. So what's Connor McGregor's thing? I think that's just him being a... He's being loose. Yeah. I love it though. I think that's like a calming thing.
Starting point is 01:17:16 Well, I don't know, but I know the jumping. I know the jumping is them, they're firing up their CNS. Like you do a couple of jumps right before you do something and it turns things on and I think that's what they're naturally doing. Look, if you're a hard gainer, we have a hard gainer guide. If it's hard for you to build muscle, if it's hard for you to pack on mass and strength, get our free hard gainer guide. It's at mind pump free.com. You can also find us on Instagram. Justin is at mind pump. Justin, I'm at mind pump to Stefano and Adam is at Mind Pump, Adam. Maths performance and Maths aesthetic. Nine months of phased expert exercise programming designed by Sal Adam and Justin to systematically
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