Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 2308: The Truth About Eating & Training According to Your Blood Type , How to Progressively Overload With Limited Weights, Ashwagandha vs. Rhodiola for Stress & More

Episode Date: April 5, 2024

In this episode of Quah (Q & A), Sal, Adam & Justin answer four Pump Head questions from  the Sunday @mindpumpmedia Quah post. Mind Pump Fit Tip: Good health = freedom. (1:24) The guy’s current personal health journey. (8:57) Taking Viagra to improve your health. (21:20) Two of the most annoying pains of all time. (24:35) The importance of companies like Get Dynasty. (26:59) Why you should avoid young day trader influencers. (30:32) Predicting the fallout from Flordia’s social media ban for children under 14. (36:13) The dangers of pornography. (41:45) Being able to express yourself without being afraid of judgment. (42:56) Organifi for kids! (49:24) Where your money is truly going. (50:51) Shout out to Destini Davis. (52:25) #Quah question #1 - Can you talk about how blood type affects nutrition? And does blood type affect training? (53:59) #Quah question #2 - If you don’t have access to heavier weights to have constant progression of overload to build muscle, would increasing the time under tension with a lighter weight still develop gains or is the overload realistically the most optimum or only way? (56:38) #Quah question #3 - You talk a lot about how to speak/approach family about fitness and health, but how do you approach the topic towards your children who are leading sedentary and unhealthy lifestyles? (59:27) #Quah question #4 - How to choose between ashwagandha and rhodiola for stress? And why? (1:04:17) Related Links/Products Mentioned Create a Living Trust for free – in minutes! Dynasty Trusts | GetDynasty Visit Organifi for the exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Promo code MINDPUMP at checkout** April Promotion: MAPS Anywhere | MAPS HIIT 50% off! ** Code APRIL50 at checkout ** TRANSCEND your goals! Telehealth Provider • Physician Directed GET YOUR PERSONALIZED TREATMENT PLAN! Hormone Replacement Therapy, Cognitive Function, Sleep & Fatigue, Athletic Performance and MORE. Their online process and medical experts make it simple to find out what’s right for you. Huge Study Confirms Viagra Cuts Alzheimer's Risk by Over 50% Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis signs bill that bans children under 14 from having social media accounts The Budget Deal Is Overflowing With $12 Billion of Earmarks Visit biOptimizers for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Promo code MINDPUMP10 at checkout for 10% off your order** Mind Pump #1282: The #1 Key To Consistently Building Muscle & Strength (Avoid Plateaus!) Ashwagandha benefits, dosage, and side effects - Examine Rhodiola Rosea benefits, dosage, and side effects - Examine Mind Pump Podcast – YouTube Mind Pump Free Resources People Mentioned Jocko Willink (@jockowillink) Instagram Destini Davis | Certified Parent Coach (@destini.ann) Instagram  

If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. Mind Pump with your hosts, Sal DeStefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. You just found the most downloaded Fitness Health Entertainment podcast. This is Mind Pump. Right in today's episode, we answered listeners' questions, but this was after a 53 minute introductory conversation where we talk about fitness, our lives, current events, studies, a lot more than that, fun stuff. Anyway, check the show notes for timestamps

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This episode is also brought to you by Organifi. They make organic supplements for health, wellness, and athletic performance. They even make supplements for kids. That's what we talked about today in our episode. Go check them out. Go to Organifi.com forward slash mind pump. Use the code mind pump. Get 20% off. We also have a sale this month on some workout programs. Maps Anywhere and Maps Hit are both 50% off. If you're interested, go to mapsfitnessproducts.com and then use the code April 50 for the discount. All right, back to the show. Good health equals freedom. Okay, why am I saying that? Because oftentimes people think, you know, I don't want to work out daily. I don't want to watch my diet. I

just want to live my life. I just want to be free. That's a lie. Poor health reduces your options in life. If you want to be sad, you want to have poor mobility, be more likely to be anxious, then sure don't structure your day around exercise and don't watch what you eat. But if you want the freedom that only good health can provide, then include that structure. Structure will give you more freedom. Where did we hear that first? Discipline equals freedom. I think Jaco, he does that a lot. Does he? Yeah. Okay, I've heard it in a lot of different arenas. I remember Bishop Barron saying that at the talk.

Oh, you don't remember who said it first? I don't. We were all together when we heard it. I remember. I know Bishop Barron did a talk when we were in London, but it was more about spiritual freedom, right? Yeah. Yeah.

But around fitness and health, I don't know. But I mean, I know you guys ran into this as well. How many times people would say they stopped following their workout or diet because they just wanted to quote unquote enjoy their life or, you know, I just want to be free and do eat what I want type of deal. It's like, that's a myth.

It's a myth because it comes with its own consequences and limitations. And I can't think of a less free thing than having really bad health, especially when it's preventable. I don't know. I have family members I see with poor health that now are in situations where they don't have the freedom to get up and go play at the park with their

kids because they don't have the energy. They can't do it. They don't have the freedom to do certain things because they could die. Yeah. It sets you up for challenges that you don't have the tools to overcome. Like at that point, like life is, is riddled with challenges. And it's like, if, if you're just going to sit there and think everything's going

right, right now, I mean, you could be in that state, but for how long there's inevitable, you're going to face something that, uh, especially physically, you're going to face something that you need to overcome. I mean, we're at that something that, especially physically, you're gonna face something that you need to overcome. I mean we're at that age now. You guys seen your friends? Oh yeah. Drop off on stuff like this? Yeah. Is there like specific things that you can recall like you guys used to do or they did and like now just like oh no that's not something. I mean I see that like my... Just pick up games in general. Yeah my best friends and I like one of the one of our favorite things to do was to snowboard. I just I haven't ridden with them in years. Yeah, my best friends and I, like one of our favorite things to do was to snowboard.

I just, I haven't ridden with them in years. I just have completely like given that up as just like, oh, the risk and it's too much work. Well, I, so. Yeah. I've, you know, because I've been. Together now. Yeah.

And because I've been in fitness for so long, so my family knows I've been doing this for a long time. And then my peers in my family, the questions used to be early on, they were like, how do I get jacked? And the questions were, how do I get lean? You know what the questions are now?

Yeah, healthy. My back hurts, my knee hurts, dude, can you help me with my ankle? Or man, I was painting this, or I was taking the garbage out, and I totally, and I'll get texts like this. Yeah, my blood pressure's too high. Yeah, yeah, I had a buddy just reach out to me,

he's like, dude, I just, I'm pre-diabetic. What can I do? And he's in his 40s. I mean, that brings up a good point. The older you get, the bigger the difference is between healthy people and not healthy people. So as we get into our 50s and 60s and 70s, it's going to become a vast chasm between us and other people because we chose, I guess, the structure.

And I told you guys, just a little stupid accident that I had, just cutting my fingers, and just that limiting factor for me just took out a hobby of mine I love, and then also it makes everything else a little bit more just annoying, and it puts me in a state where my mood's affected. And that's just a really small little thing. But now you add on something that's like, you're facing some kind of health crisis. What is that gonna do to your overall status

in terms of your mental health? I really have two categories of friends involving the fitness side, that either one, they went really hard young. So they were like athletes trained super hard or maybe CrossFit or they did like, they trained like that for their teens into twenties. And then they've completely fallen off

or the people that have just chose never to really care about health and fitness. I feel like I have. And I think the ones that like, it's really hard to convince somebody who's never seen the value in exercise and training. The ones that I'm always trying to help save or I guess get re-excited about exercise and training again are the ones that had a passion for it at one time and still have this attachment to what it looks like.

I think the relationship with it was much like probably how mine was when I was younger, that I felt that I had to do this crazy workout time. And I think one of the biggest things that's helped me as I got older was actually giving myself the freedom to do one exercise. As silly as that may sound, I had very much so this all or nothing mentality.

Yeah, it's a waste of time if I can't do anything. And even during my years of being a personal trainer, I thought this way. I was either all on or I was off, and I had these massive swings. And because I had a relationship like that, if I still had that attitude here in my 40s, I would probably talk myself out of being in shape.

A lot of times I was like, oh man, I can't seem to string three weeks of consistency together. Therefore, fuck it. Don't do anything. Whereas now this, you know, the last I'd say five to seven years of my life, I've, I've allowed myself to freedom. Like, you know, I'm just going to go in and do three sets of squats or I'm going to go do some pushups and pull ups. Like I just never thought that way before.

And I tell you that makes a huge difference. three sets of squats or I'm going to go do some pushups and pull ups. Like I just never thought that way before. And I tell you, that makes a huge difference. Oh, I just, I, so I work out at UFC fit right now and there's this woman that works out in there and older woman and she trains with, I mean, you could tell she's been working out for a long time. You know, when you see somebody in that age category, you could tell, right? She's been working out for a long time. So I talked to her the other day, you know, I see her every morning and we started, look, it

turns out she actually knew the show. She was friends with Lane Norton. So we had some things in common, but she was, I think she said 63 and you watch her workout, she's got zero mobility issues. I mean, she's squatting, she's deadlifting, she's overhead pressing, she's moving, she's got more energy than most 20 year olds that I know.

And I was watching her work out, I'm like, man, the average 60 something year old that I know in my family is in a different category altogether. They're not in here working out like she, not only can they not do what she does, but they couldn't do a quarter of what she does without injuring themselves. And this woman's been working out for years and years and years. And so all that time, you know, think about that, right? People are like, I don't want to do that too much structure. I want to enjoy my life, this, that, and the other. You are going to be hit with the reality of lack of or loss of freedom. Now you can't bend over.

Now you can't squat, or now you don't have the energy to do the things that you want to do, or now you have to take this medication. So it's this total like twist, it's a really twisted, interesting way that people view exercise and eating. And again, I think it comes from what we always talk about, which is like hating yourself or it's like exercise, oh, that's a punishment diet, that's restrictive. It's like, no, man, if you do it to improve and increase the amount of freedom you have in life and it's through your body that you experience life. So if your body's healthy, your experience is going to be better than if it's unhealthy.

That's why this is something that should be a part of everybody's life. Yeah. I mean, since we're talking about this, I've been thinking about this a lot personally. Like when you guys are evaluating your own personal health and fitness, what are areas that you're thinking about like right now as far as like, yeah I need more of this or I need it I'm working on being better about

this or changing this, like where are you all at on your personal journey? I overdo everything so this is always a struggle for me but I'm much better on mobility than I was before. Now it's been at least six weeks where I've been more focused on mobility for my lower body, which is where I need it most, and I've avoided some of the heavy lower body exercises that I don't want to let go of. But that's going to be a thing for me. It's always mobility because it's not as fun as beating myself.

I mean, I had to like fully commit to where you like, because I feel you on that struggle because that was a big hurdle for me. And I had to like, just let it go. I am not ready to do it. I'm trying. No, I mean, you admit it, at least you admit it. You know, you're being honest. Like it's, it's, and I get it because I remember it was tough, like, because I identified it as the buff bodybuilder.

Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like that was who I was, right? So it's like, man, to go the other direction was really tough. What about you? Yeah, I'm somewhat in this hybrid, sort of in the middle,

because I was working a lot on bringing back some athleticism and some of the movement that I was capable of doing, and especially the fast twitch stuff, and making sure I could at least like Control myself like move fast link control like that's all I care so I'm not like all over the place and you got to a point where it was like kind of embarrassing because You know when you just you look back and you're like man

I used to blue so well and I had good form and you know, that was just something I pride myself in was slowly kind of losing that just based off of habits and like sitting and, you know, being in traffic and like, uh, doing things at the house. And I wasn't really as, um, you know, I didn't have a lot of variety in terms of like movements that I used to do. Uh, so I slowly brought that back, but really what we've been talking a lot on the show about like just sort of risk reward and like, you know, as we're moving forward, like in our maps 40 plus, I think I was really like kind of evaluating that.

And like even for myself, you know, some of these core lifts and and just the impact it's had on me over the years. And and I've actually lightened the load substantially on like back squats and bench press and like some of the main ones and have, you know, shifted a bit more into the hypertrophy side of the fence. And so I'm like, you know, for in terms of like the core less, I'm way more hypertrophy focused now in, but still incorporating like Olympic rings and then the sled and like a lot more functional elements in there. But that's sort of where I'm at. Have you been doing it for a while?

How long is it just, or is this like? Probably, yeah, so some of the more of the hypertrophy stuff maybe like the last month and a half, it's been a new sort of focus for me. My body feels a lot better. You do look like you actually gained a little bit of size. Really? Yeah, I swear to God.

Yeah, I swear to God. How about you, Adam? That's all hypertrophy. So I have this really interesting thing that's happening right now with starting that trisepatide. It made me reevaluate some things that I had never really thought about, which is really, and I don't even know if I,

so bear with me that I'm trying to articulate this because I'm still trying to wrap my brain around this. And I think that it could be linked to my autoimmune issues. And that is that I have trained myself for so many decades now to eat, to be a bigger version of myself for so long that. Double meat everything. Everything. Yeah. Everything is just, I have. Ignore your signals.

Exactly. Ignore all signals. Exactly, ignore all signals. This is what it takes to be this big and I like having this much muscle. It's crazy when you do it for so long, because I'm the same way, you do it for so long, you don't even realize it. My default is still, it's just like, there's versions of it, right?

There's like the clean version of like, still a massive amount of food, just super clean. And then there's the like, you know, eating out and over consuming calories, it's still massive. And that's typically, and typically I bounce between the two. I allow a flexibility in the diet. I eat out, have occasional drinks and desserts here and there. Body fat creeps up a little bit,

tailor back to my- But still larger portions. Yes, but the eating clean version is still, I mean, a lot of food and a lot of calories. And since I started this trisepatite, it just completely just crushed my appetite. And of course, the trainer, wannabe buff guy in my head's doing the math.

I'm like, oh my God, the gram's a protein, I'm not eating this. I'm just like, you know what I'm saying? And I'm trying to resist that, and I'm trying to resist that, and I'm trying to like really be open-minded to what if I just allow my body to go to where it probably wants to go naturally. Granted, I am using something to help me that way,

so it's probably gonna accelerate that process, but I'm gonna like. Don't make good choices. Right, right, I'm gonna lean into it versus trying to fight it. Because Katrina was even asking that, because she was like, well aren't you now gonna get your protein? I'm like, don't, trying to fight it because Katrina was even asking that because she's like well Aren't you now gonna get your protein? I'm like don't you can't say that to me because or you're gonna be missing

You know lose much of muscle. I said well first of all I'm gonna lose a bunch of muscle I said and I she's triggering the skinny guy. I know I know She's always like she likes the big guy right for sure and I like the big guy too But and I don't think I'm gonna and that's how I gotta get on my own head I'm like I can be a small guy. I'm six foot three 230 pounds, right? So even if I lost 30 pounds I'm not a small guy, right? So so anyways, I'm I'm I'm heading in this direction and I'm just trying to evaluate how my body feels and then the next goal is kind of Stuff that you're talking about just like I really really and I've said this on the show before and I hate talking about it to evaluate how my body feels. And then the next goal is kind of stuff

that you're talking about Justin, like I really, really, and I've said this on the show before and I hate talking about it publicly because then I get all the DMs of people asking me where I'm at with it. And again, this is me talking out loud. I haven't fully committed to what I'm gonna do yet, but I really wanna get back into basketball shape.

But I know I can't do that until I get my size, my body down to like basketball size, what I was. I was 190, you know, at most 200 pound athlete. Like I'm a 230 pound, you know, ex bodybuilder dude now. And so there's a huge gap there. And so I'm trying to just let this go where I'm eating with, you know, like when I'm hungry, making good choices, allowing the scale to drop, not worrying about. So you know what's cool about this for people listening, you're so growth-minded that you're using this,

and I'm gonna, you know, I'm gonna kind of little title here to what's happening. You're using this as an opportunity for personal growth, is what's happening, right? Because you're challenging your old, the way you felt about yourself, which you probably thought wasn't a problem, and now it is surfacing.

That's the part that's interesting to me, is that. That's how insidious. Yeah, right? I know. That's the part that's really interesting to me is that if you were to ask me, like that's why I thought I was a good candidate for bodybuilding because I had moved past

those insecurities, right? And even like the example of letting it go and becoming the mobility guy and going down that path. Like, I was really okay with that. It took work. I'm not going to say it was like all easy, like, because that's why I understand the struggle that you have. Like, but I mean, I was able to do it. I committed to it and I did, did good. Like it became like a really mobile person that I didn't, I lacked and it was fully committing to that direction. So I really had thought I had completely moved past this, but what I never had really thought about was like, wow, maybe what I even thought

is my default back to eating good is still in such a surplus of what I naturally really want for my body type that I didn't even realize that. And so, yeah, and this has only been triggered by this trisepatite because it has crushed the appetite so much. And let me tell you, it is, it is fucking weird, man. I'm only on week two right now. You know how skeptical I am, but, uh, and,

and maybe this has something to do too with, um, I'm so low calorie that I crave really healthy, nutrient dense food, whole foods to the point. And this is, and Katrina made this comment the other day in the kitchen. She's like, cause she was asking how I'm feeling and find what I noticed and she goes, you know what I noticed that's really interesting. She goes, in the 13 years we've been together, if I don't feel like cooking, you never, you never balk at us ordering out. And when, even when you're on your diet or like that, you just choose a healthy choice. Well,

okay, we'll get Nick the Greek or, you know, we'll order in something that's a healthy choice still. She goes, I've never seen you ask what we're having for dinner and then I tell you, oh, I'm just, honey, I've been, I don't want to cook tonight. And then you get up and go to the grocery store and go get something and then cook it yourself for us. Like that's, I've never seen that.

It's very interesting. It is. Yeah. It's interesting. And it is interesting how, so I think the way that you're using this is the way that people can use these peptides, these GLP-1s successfully. In other words, if you use this peptide, so think of this- A behavioral hack.

Thank you. You, Matt, there's two scenarios here. Scenario one or person one goes on tersepitide or semaglutide and then just eats less, lose weight, doesn't really examine and aim for personal growth during that period. I think they'll rebound when they go back

off. Other person or second example, person does this and then they examine, wow, I had a bad relationship with this or my God, I reached for food so much when I was anxious or stressed or depressed or this is what it feels like when eat this way I think if you use it as a tool for that kind of growth then the odds that you're gonna be successful post-peptide are gonna be much higher. Yeah it's a

it's interesting it's in it's very new. And you said now with your autoimmune because of the quantity of food is less you're are you noticing a difference in your. Yeah I mean it's really good right now I mean it's really good. I wonder if you're just stressing your gut from the amount of food. less, are you noticing a difference in your services? Yeah, I mean it's really good right now. I mean it's really good right now. I wonder if you're just stressing your gut from the amount of food that you're- That's 100% what I'm piecing together right now. I mean I've been trying to solve this thing for-

You think my gut issues are related? Oh, I- I know that. Yeah, that was a dumb question. I think, yeah. Mine's all repressed like shit that I have dealt with. You just have anger in there, bro. Yeah, it's all in my body.

Yeah. Well, what's gonna be, what's really interesting too is that. You're gonna cry if you go after Zepetai. Just a bunch of crying will come out. It's all gonna fucking come out once. It's gonna be a hot mess. Yeah, I mean, it's interesting, right? And again, I'm just sharing with the audience.

And people listening, don't go online and try and find a source, go to mphormones.com. Oh, yeah, yeah. Or your doctor. Hey, I'm not even telling anyone to do it yet, right? Like, I'm just, the whole point of me doing this, because it's not like I'm a person who needs to lose a bunch of weight or anything like that,

it was like, I was so curious about the other stuff that everybody was saying. Like, one of the fascinating things about this report is what it's doing neurologically, not what it's like, this isn't a fat burner. It's not like it's not, that's what I'm explaining to Katrina. She's like, why would you take this? This is not, you don't need to lose weight. Somebody was asking me that. Yeah. Like why was Adam doing? He's not like,

I'm like, he's the perfect person to do it. Cause you know, we don't have that perspective. Exactly. None of it's not out there for somebody to really like analyze it, you know, from that lens. And I think that that's gonna bring a different a completely different conversation. We don't like to sell or talk about anything that we haven't necessarily experienced either firsthand or you know multiple times with clients so that's the main reason why so otherwise it's just yeah I was really I mean because obviously and truth be told truth be told Adam would say and he will

if this is not being a, if it ends up not being a good thing, he'll say it. That's why I'm even, I mean, I know I wanna share as we go through this, but I mean, we're only two weeks in right now, okay? So like, but what I'm feeling, even like, so yesterday was my shot, and day six, so like, so every seven days I have to take a shot.

On day six was the first time I even considered eating like a like a like a snack Or like I thought I had ice cream this whole time in the freezer, right? I've left I did intentionally left candy ice cream things in my house that I could go get if I want to I didn't Only I don't even want to make it easy for myself, right? And I and I haven't even had the urge to do anything like that the first time like it had actually kind of crossed my mind, like, oh, I could go downstairs and go have that. And I'm like, still didn't want it.

But that was the first time. And I'm like, oh, that's interesting that I haven't noticed even the thought of it until right now. And this is day six of taking the, and then the next day I took the shit yesterday. And then of course, again, yeah. Hey, since we're talking about medical interventions, I just read this crazy article on Viagra and Cialis,

and you would not believe what this article is about. So it's not about erections or sexual performance or whatever those drugs are used for, but check out the summary of, um, what I'm reading here. So Viagra and Cialis. So these are PDE-5 inhibitors.

They dramatically increase what's called nitric oxide, dilates the blood vessels. This is why men get a better erection when they're on them, but dilating the blood vessels also lowers blood pressure a little bit. Nitric oxide is good for your blood vessels.

You know, Viagra in fact was initially researched as a blood pressure medication, but they saw that it lowered blood pressure a little bit, but you know, everybody got boners. So here we'll sell it for that. We'll check this out by product. Now that Silas and Viagra have been around for a long time, you know what they're finding? They're more potent at decreasing all cause mortality than statins or blood

pressure drugs. In comparison to statins and blood pressure lowering drugs, men who took Viagra and Salis had better all-cause mortality. And they were happier. And they were probably happier as a result. Because the boost in nitric oxide is good for the arteries and the heart. I used to think that there would be like, it's a bad part of that. Is the body gonna adapt to taking that on a regular basis? Is there any, like baby aspirin was, wasn't that recommended?

Yeah, it's different pathway. So is there potential that this could be considered a thing that people would take? Wow. Yes, yes. What you're probably gonna see, cause now you see PD-5 inhibitors are getting recommended to men with prostate enlargement.

Where's the Viagra stock at right now? Yeah, Tigger. Yeah. But now I wouldn't even, I would go with the other ones, the longer acting ones like Silas or whatever. But, and I think that you're going to start seeing them get recommended to men with, you know, heart issues. Dude, what's happening?

Like, like all of a sudden now, like everybody's like, you know, the, the go-to is like, let's get on hormones. Let's get Viagra. It's healthy. What's happening. But I thought that was really edgy talking to yourself like, you know, that's so interesting. I thought that was very interesting and I think what you're going to see. So athletes have been using

Yeah, you know Viagra and Salas for a while now because they notice Improvements in performance bodybuilders are the first ones to mess with these it used to be when I was when I was 17 18 years old the gym ice good in fact the one that you guys used to we did the very first version of Maps Black right maps aesthetic We've shot in that gym that gym I remember as a 17-year-old, I'd find pills on the floor once in a while in the bathroom, like Viagra pills.

I was like, I never connected that as a kid. Why would there be boner pills in the men's locker room? And more than once, it was like one time as I'd seen it multiple times. It improves blood flow. There's a stock right there. That's Eli Lilly, they're involved with Cialis. Okay.

That has gone up. Hmm. Hey. Just like it. That's the Eli Lilly. They're involved with Cialis. Okay. Uh, that's gone up. Just like it's been on a fire. Wow. Look at that. That stock is up. Dude, talking about mobility. I, uh, do you, do you, have you guys ever just hit your leg on the side of your bed so hard? That's the worst. God. So I'm so annoyed because the sheets go over

the bed just enough to where you can't tell. Like a wood frame or whatever? Yeah dude, so my daughter. Metal ones are the worst. Oh bro, so I'm putting my daughter to sleep, so Jessica tries first, no success. And my daughter typically goes down easy, so for whatever reason, I think it's because we messed up

the bed routine. So parents listening right now. Oh that's always. Or new parents. That's always it, bro. Keep it exactly the same. Any change, okay, and what was the change? Blame yourself immediately if you change it. The change was that both of us went upstairs with her

to put her down, and I think she saw both of us, thought, oh, it's party time, did not want to go down. I leave, Jessica's having a tough time putting her down. We switch off, I try to put her down. I put her in, she starts crying a bunch, try to calm her, doesn't work, I pick her up, and I'm like mad, I'm holding her, and I'm like, oh, a walking, bam, right into the side of the bed, dude.

Bro, so hard, but I didn't want to scare the baby. So I did one of those, you know, you're holding it in, dude. Oh, bro, I hit it so hard, it's like swollen right here, dude, I was like, right here. She went down. Did you see that? I put in my story a couple of days ago. There was this guy that did a video where he had, it was almost like a little merry ground thing that it had all of the,

the, um, razor scooters on it. And so he, he, he put one shin out. razor scooters on it. And so he, he, he put one shin out. Oh yeah. So it was just like the masochism, like, no, like how, and then did the other leg after that. And I, just one time that's happened to me and it was like, I almost cried. Yeah. Two of the most pain, two of the most annoying pains ever is if you hit your toe on like a post or something, you step on Legos, Step on Legos, that's terrible. It's horrible.

And then I don't know about you, so my wife, if she sees a pimple on me for whatever reason across the house, she's gotta come over and squeeze it. I hate that. It's the worst, I don't know why it's such, it's the most intolerable pain. I'm like sitting there and she's like, you're being a baby, stop.

The worst is cause it's like kind of tickles at first cause they go all soft and then they, yeah. And you're like, whoa, that was like zero to a hundred. That's such a chimp thing too, you know what I mean? The worst is because it's like kind of tickles at first because they go all soft and then yeah Whoa, that was like zero to a hundred. That's such a chimp thing, too You know, I mean like she's like it is weird that it is weird that women like to do that I don't know no dudes that are into that. No, you will squeeze it pimple off your wife's Come here, bro. Nah, no doesn't work. I have two things that I want to bring up one of them One of them I want Doug to share something but first before I did I wanted to share this clip with you guys. Jerry sent it over to me. I thought it was really interesting. You know, we're working with Get Dynasty and I just keep finding more and more reasons why to do

this and I was like, I wanted to show you guys and see what you thought and see if you guys even knew this. Doug, I sent it over to you. Can you pull up the video so that guys can watch it real quick? Doug, I sent it over to you. Can you pull up the video so the guys can watch it real quick? Where'd you didn't know? So you had to know part one conservatorship. Conservatorship is whenever somebody leaves a minor child some money, whoever is awarded over that child will get the conservatorship to be over their finances. You'll get a court liaison and you'll have a judge that will be over it. That way that they can oversee how the child's money is being spent and make sure that nothing is being withheld from the child.

Although I do understand that this service has to be in place. I did not know that it had to be a place for natural parents. See, my husband passed away two years ago and he left our son Liam. Liam, say hi. He left him five percent of his life insurance. Although he thought he was doing the right thing, when he passed he didn't have a will at the time. So all of the things that we had had to go into

probate. I had to pay thousands of dollars to become the conservator over his account. Anytime I needed to use the money, I had to pay court fees and filing fees, all these other things to be able to use the money. So a thousand dollars was wasted to get the conservatorship and hundreds of dollars was wasted every time I needed to use it. My husband would have left the money into a trust that could have all avoided because the trust would have told us how he wanted it to be taken care of. So my name is Nikki and I'm your widow friend.

Whenever you leave my thank you home, please put it in a dress set that way that you don't have to go through. We had to get through. Have a blessed day. How crazy is that? I did not know. A lot of people don't know this. Bro, that's crazy. This is one of those things where it's like wealthy people, they have family lawyers, they have family setups, and they take care. If you're middle class, like a lot of people don't know this. If you die and you leave money to your kid, even though their mom is still alive, it's gotta go through probrate,

and then she has to go and spend thousands of dollars, and then every time they need to use it, they spend money to try and use the money for the kid. Whereas if you had a trust, it's a done deal. I didn't know that. And a trust. Yeah, obviously we're set up, but I did still, before that, not one of my motivations was,

hey, I needed to worry about if I passed, like Katrina wouldn't automatically just get all control of them. Isn't it crazy? Yeah. Weird. Yeah, it's terrible. So people know we work with a company called Dynasty, and they are one of the first,

if not the first company ever, to allow people to create a trust online for free. Because one of the other challenges was, if you wanted to make a trust, it would cost you hundreds or thousands of dollars with a lawyer. So now you've got kids, your dad, mom, whatever you want to create a trust. Got to go to a lawyer, spend thousands of dollars to set this up. Every time I need to change something, call the lawyer, pay them their hourly fee with dynasty, get dynasty.com.

It's free. And it takes, I think it took five minutes to set up a trust on there, so I know. I don't know, I keep learning more and more about, I didn't realize how, one, how simple your cousins made it, and then two, how important it is. Even if you don't have millions and millions of dollars to leave, even when, by the time you get your first house

or your first asset, in my opinion, like you want to be already thinking. And the way they set it up too is you can go on there and add assets and manage it all through them so it's super easy. Yeah it actually saves you money long term than earlier. Tons of money. Speaking of money I got to bring this up to you Adam because you love this. So I'm in a group text with my cousins and my brother and my brother sends over this clip of this YouTube influencer like guy who's like a day trader.

He's in his 20s, day trader. He's like, dude, this guy makes like $30 million a year. This is crazy. And it's like a picture of this kid who's like Lamborghini's in a big house. And I'm like, no, he doesn't. He's like, yeah, he totally talks about how he does it. I'm like, listen, if you're making $30 million a year

day trading, either A, you're the worst business person ever to devote hours to making YouTube videos, or B, your whole business is convincing people you make a lot of money. You know? So the, there's a lot of them. Somebody gave me like the download on that, right? So I guess I'm not very familiar

with the day trading circle and stuff like that, but to your point, this has become like this massive space of all these young 20-year-old kids that are selling all these courses online to teach you how to do what they've done and look at my Lamborghini, look at my big house, like I've done all stuff. Most of them either rent the house and the Lamborghinis are leased. And even if they bought the Lamborghinis, I mean, you still get a Lamborghini for a few hundred thousand dollars, it doesn't make you worth tens of millions. But typically, what do they do with a bunch

of other influencers? Yeah, that's the other, so that was the other hack that I didn't know about. That's like a big thing, especially in the LA market and stuff like that, and with influencers is, five guys go in on it and they all purchase it together. They use it for social media. Yeah, they just use it for social media.

And then they write it off because they're using it for social media, so. But the other hack or thing that they're doing is, I mean, right away that should be to your point about not only making YouTube, but if you're selling courses, if you're selling courses online on how to make money and you're already making tens of millions,

why would you waste your time selling 500, $900 courses? Go spend more time day trading because that's what you're really good at. My buddy's like, oh, he just wants to help people. No. So, okay, so what these guys do is this. You guys make money too. Because everyone's like, I've seen it.

I've seen his account. I've seen the video. So what they do is they get like four or five phones or more, I don't know how many they do. They get multiple phones and you can sign up for ghost accounts. So they let you, like these day trading accounts, you can like practice. So it's not real money these day trading accounts, you can just like practice.

So it's not real money. Yeah, so then what they do is they have like four or five of these phones, and then they're practicing all these trades. And if they hit a few. Yeah, then they hit a few, then they share with the internet. I'm like, oh, that's a brilliant, it's freaking hustle. So it looks like,

yeah, so it's like, yeah, look at it. Because they do that, like they prove, and it's like, yeah, it's a, and you can't tell the difference on the screen from where you're looking at if it's a you know An account that they're play money. It's not their real account or simulation or whatever Yeah, they would not do that's what I was trying to tell them like they would not Devote because making and editing YouTube videos and putting them out there and being influenced. Yeah, we know how long that takes It's work. Why would he if he's making 30 million dollars a, do the math on how much you think he's making per day day

trading, why would he waste his time making videos on YouTube and then sell these courses when he could just make more money day trading? The only reason why this isn't so obvious to people is because we're still in the middle of this transition of old media to new media. Yes. Because this is no different than commercials

you see on TV. It's the same crap. Like, is that like nobody runs out after they see a commercial on TV and they're like, oh, dude, this guy is rich. It's like he's an actor. It's the same hustle. And he's paid to do that.

And farmers put it together. It's like, come on. But because we're still in this transitional period of that this is new media and this is how you market, this is how you sell, these guys are doing this as a tax write-off, they're either leasing or they're going five ways into it, they're using, and it's all fair game because it's marketing and advertising.

And so everybody's, I mean, even I was like, man, there's a lot of these young kids that are making hell of money, like, what am I doing wrong? Like, if this kid, this 20-year-old kid can figure out how to day trade, I should be able to. I'm so skeptical, like, the whole, like, finance and money space and, like, how to make you, like can figure out how to day trade. I should be able to. I'm so skeptical. The whole finance and money space and how to make you, telling people how to make money, that's such a,

how many can even think of that you would be like, yes, super authentic. I mean, remember when we all first got together? I mean, Doug knows this because he's been in the marketing space for a long time. He's just like, man, if you guys want to make money, the biggest way to make money is to sell other, teach other people how to make money.

It's also the easiest way too, because the proof like that, you see the watches, you see the cars, and you do the math. And you're like, oh, that's a million there, that's 100,000. It's no different than some bodybuilder fanatic. I know how to train people, and I know how to put people in guys, because of the red thing.

That's why you have all these Instagram people that got, you know, took first place in a bodybuilding show. And now they're like professional trainers and coaches. Yeah, now they're coaches online making $200,000 a year teaching people how to get ready for a show and they don't know anything really about exercise and nutrition. They just know how to diet and take steroids and they did a good job at it.

And so now they sell everybody else. Super fresh. But I mean, that's the easiest to me, Red Flag, is just like, it's like, OK, if we were, here's how you would know Mindpump isn't as big of a deal as Mindpump is, is if you saw me, I have five slots for personal training available for you guys right now.

I have five slots available for one-on-one training. What the fuck is he doing one-on-one training if his business is that big? Why would I be training people one-on-one? It just what I'm saying? Like, why would I be training people one on one? Like, it just doesn't make no sense. You know what I'm saying? So, why would you be selling day courses? There's only four left, by the way.

One just popped up right now. Just limited space. I'm into going out of business business. That's my favorite. But I mean, it's the same thing for that space, right? If you're a big financial day trader guy and you're making $30 million a year, what are you doing selling 599 courses?

Like, because you care? 599 courses? Like, because you care? Because you care? Give it away then. If you're really that nice, if you're really making money, give it away. They don't, they don't care. All right, speaking of new media,

this law in Florida that banned social media, because now social media companies are gonna get fined, I think $500,000. Interesting. They're gonna get fined massively. Oh, that's how they're handling that. If they fail to cancel accounts of kids that are underage. The state can do that?

Yeah, they can do that. Yeah, they could totally do that. I didn't know they had the power to do that. They do. That's interesting. So they pass this law. If they're a resident of Florida and they can... If Facebook doesn't... I don't know if they have to be... Yes, I think they have to

be a resident of Florida. If they're found not canceling accounts of minors... This is interesting. Then they will get fined. This is going to be a yes I think they have to be a resident of Florida if they're found not canceling accounts of minors this is then they will get fined this is super interesting Sal because that it's so weird how a state can impose a law and now a company is responsible because that there might even be a department for Facebook that goes in and checks state by state sure how old are these people that are on there like you never even had to do that. Now you have to do this and also need to build an entire department or team dedicated to that.

So you avoid getting sued. Now, now here's the deal. Smart social media companies, I think, and the problem with this is that they were looking at this, the horizon and so many of their users were kids, so I get the struggle, but if they were smart, they would have looked at all this and the data and said, you know what, we need to get ahead

of this because here's what I think, Florida passed this bill and guess what, most people like it. I'm seeing people on social, you know Chamath from All In? He just did a tweet on it and he goes, I totally support this. You're talking about free market people who when it comes to kids, I'm the same way.

When it comes to children, I'm pro-regulation. When you're an adult now I'm definitely very different. But when it comes to kids like you know I think it's not a bad thing and social media has been shown to have terrible effects on children and so and I think it's gonna spread that's what I think. What does it say? So they require Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter require users to be at least least 13 years old. So they must be collecting information about the age of these kids. So from that standpoint, they could go do a search most likely and delete those accounts.

So the other thing I would be curious about is let's like, you know, is this really difficult to bypass? You have to get a VPN. What do you mean? You could get a VPN. Then they don't know where you're coming from. No, I mean like how hard would it be for my son, my son's too young to be an example, your son to get on there and click I'm older than 15. Yeah.

Cause it's gonna be something like that, right? That it's a, it's all, it's literally, it's like if you get on any side that requires you to be 18. You can, but let me put it to you this way. You're a parent in Florida. Yeah. Okay.

And look, I have teenage kids, Justin does too. Uh, and people are like, just parent your kids more. No, I get that, but it's hard. It's hard. It's hard parenting, especially 14 year old, 15 year old. It's very difficult. They're not around you all the time. So like a toddler, you can keep your eye on them all the time.

So now imagine the state passes this law. Now you can be like, hey, why do you have Instagram on your phone? You can't have that, that's illegal, take that off. So now you get a little assistance from the state. So sure, the kid could go, just like a kid could go find alcohol, but the law makes it a little more challenging.

Okay, that's fair. That's a fair point. I mean, I feel like it's a really easy thing to get around, but that's a good point right there, even just from a parenting standpoint of like, hey, it's not even legal for you to do that yet I don't let you smoke cigarettes I don't let you drink alcohol one day you'll be old enough you can be other decisions but as long as you live under my roof right now I predict this to

mention I mean I mean all of the I would I would assume there's been a lot of cases where people have like you like miners have gotten into trouble with like pictures and videos and things used against them that could set them up for just like horrible outcomes long term. It'll affect the way that they have a career, it'll affect the way that they have a relationship with somebody. And it's so unfortunate. Listen, the data is connecting social media use to anxiety, depression, suicide. We're seeing rates and that's not the only thing, okay?

I'm not stupid. I think there's inactivity. I think that there's a lot of things in the changing landscape that's contributing to this. But you are seeing suicide rates, anxiety and depression rates among kids that we've never seen. Yeah. Never. And it's worse when they use a lot of social media and they're finding the relationship is not, you know, they thought maybe it was a two way relationship. Well, if you're more depressed, you're more likely to use social media.

No, the data showing using the social media is leading to these things like depression. So I think this is gonna spread. My prediction is that pretty soon cell phone companies are gonna not let you download these apps unless you're a certain age. That's what I think. Because now that you have a precedent set in Florida,

lawsuits will start to follow. Once these companies are like, uh oh, we're getting sued. So imagine if you had a kid who's 14, who committed suicide. Now you have a case where you could take it to the courts and say they shouldn't have been on the social media. You guys allowed this to happen.

You guys, that starts to spread. I think this is, I think that laws like this are gonna start to take hold. Yeah, I can see that. I absolutely. I'm forward to it. It's a huge problem that yeah they're just now sort of really like attacking it. I mean I think that this is not a short road to regulating pornography for minors as well. I think that's the next step. I think that should have been first but yeah I think that's the next step. How's it not? It's already really they don't regulate very well

Well, I mean, that's how I feel Yes, that's right. I mean that's my point there too though. Yeah, so it's still yeah, you know It's still just what they'll do another in some places They've actually been able to you have to register your age with the state and then that's required to get on the site type Of deal the way around it is to get a VPN. By the way, that clip we did on the dangers of pornography is flying. Yeah, I know. It's great.

And somebody- My poor wife got so many. Oh no. You know the one downfall of taking something out of context like that. Everybody's like, the truth is getting all kinds of DMs. Like, what was it? Yeah. So here's, check this out.

Somebody in there posted all the studies that they're finding related to consumption. Oh, I saw that. I saw that. The studies show desensitization and tolerance. So over time, frequent exposure leads to desensitization where individuals require increasingly extreme or novel stimuli to experience arousal. This can cause big problems. There's also rewiring of neural pathways.

The pornography consumption can alter the brain's reward system, leading to changes in neural pathways associated with pleasure and arousal. That's what drugs do. Negative impact on intimacy. They're finding that excessive pornography use has been linked to relationship to satisfaction, intimacy issues and decreased sexual satisfaction, and distorted views on sexuality, and social isolation and withdrawal.

That's what the data shows on that. I think that's gonna be next on the horizon. Wow. Yeah. Wow. I know. You know, talking about kids and stuff like that, the other thing I wanted to bring up was when Doug and I took off on our little trip that you guys didn't get to come to.

That's so cute. Mm-hmm. Yeah. He was sharing with me about this, it was like a retreat that Bree got to do where he had, I don't know if you guys knew how to do this, he had to write a letter to me. Yeah, he did tell me.

Yeah, he had to. So you wrote a letter and then she read it so many days in? So what happened is they went on a three-day retreat. The kids didn't take their phones, which is such a great idea there. Uh, and parents, all parents wrote letters to the kids about, you know, how much they love them, uh, you know, their hopes and dreams, whatever they wanted to say, what, what, whatever was on their heart. And so I wrote a letter, uh, her mom wrote a letter, her grandparents

wrote letters, friends wrote letters. Her mom wrote a letter, her grandparents wrote letters, friends wrote letters. And so during this retreat, they chose one letter from each parent. So not both parents, one parent to read in front of everybody. So there was like 50, 55 people, kids that went on this retreat and these

letters were very heartfelt. And there was, I apparently like kids were crying, it was like kids were crying. It was such an emotional experience. It'd be so amazing to see that, you know? Yeah. And then, then they went into a room and everybody had a packet with all their letters. It was in a big shape of a heart.

And they went and got their packet and they'd read their letters. And apparently it was just a time for kids to really talk about their situations, their relationships with their parents, you know, and a lot of them came to these really interesting realizations. So, when they came back, we all met the students when they came in. They had no idea we were going to be there.

Right, and they didn't know you were going to be there. The kids didn't know the letters were even coming. They didn't know about the letters. They didn't know we were going to be there after the retreat was over. So we were all there waiting for them. They came in. Of course, they were all excited to see us. And then the kids had an opportunity to get in front of everybody and share.

Oh, my God. What? And the kids, I swear, every one of these was so, so heartfelt. These kids, kids were crying. I mean, even these. Did you hold it together? Did you hold it together? No, no and Brianna went up there. I didn't hold it Yeah, I'm starting to get teary-eyed just thinking about it But these kids like like I realized I was basically a little shit I didn't respect you as parents and I know how much you've done for me I mean this is what some of these kids were saying wow I respect you as parents and I know how much you've done for me.

I mean, this is what some of these kids were saying. Wow. It was, I had a horrible relationship with my brother and then there's kids like, well, my, my dad passed away, you know, it's just like, oh my God, this thing was just tearing everybody up. But these kids, they had license after being there for three days to really express themselves and

not have fear of judgment from their, their peers. And boy, I mean, it opened them up in such ways because they're teenagers, right? And there's so many pressures in school to be a certain way. And then you're in this environment where everybody's just really able to open themselves up and to be honest and to be vulnerable.

And I just saw like these kids, transformations were amazing. I could tell that. And for Brianna, it was fantastic too. I mean, she came back and she's just been like such a, I mean, she's always a joy, but like I've really noticed. I felt like she leveled up in her maturity after that.

So, uh, I mean, I would suggest any school doing something like that would be a fantastic. Wow. Wow, that sounds powerful. Yeah. You know, the two times when you're most influential over the, your child's brain and how it wires is when they're like babies and

toddlers, and then when they're adolescent teenagers, like the two most impactful times. You can really. I just, I think too, this is an area that we're, we're just, we're too, this is an area that we're, we're missing in educating our kids so bad. Like that's a private school, obviously. Yeah.

You know, and this was, this was one of the things like when Katrina and I first got together, it was like the big debate between her and I about, you know, would we put our son in private school? And I was so hard about it. And for this exact example, I don't think this is shared enough. These types of things that get funded and get, they can do and how important those are into the

development of kids. Like that's, I mean, you want, got to watch it and it was transformative for every freaking kid that was in there. Like imagine if all of our schools were doing things like that. I just, I really wish we would move to something different with the way and make schools competitive

to where you, everyone was leveling up like that, coming up with things that were transformative for kids and that were impacting and parents were going, oh my God, well, my school did this. Oh my God, this school did that. And they were competing with each other to provide the best education system for them instead of this government funded bullshit. All we care about is they show up and they pass these generic tests and we push them

through school. It's like, it's so terrible, man. And it starts with our kids and you hear stuff like that. I mean, it's unbelievable that she got the opportunity, you got the opportunity to do that, but it's also highlights how much the rest of the people are missing out on this. Massive deficit there.

Huge, huge, man. I mean, I have friends that have their kids go to the public schools, but what they've done is they've gotten really involved with the other parents. You gotta be. If you're, if you, if the kids are involved. If they're in public, then you gotta be. And I have my best friend and his wife

are both public school teachers, and of course they defend, you know, and I get it if that's what you do. And by the way, this is not me saying that there's not incredible public school teachers, but the system itself is broken and terrible and it doesn't mean that there's not great teachers in there and I can only imagine those great teachers that teach at public schools have they had the

resources and the ability... It just doesn't make sense to me that a phenomenal impactful teacher makes right around the same amount as one that has been shipped around to different schools because they've had terrible performance and complaints and that's what tends to happen. It makes no sense to me. I think if you're that impactful and that good, you should get paid more and they should learn from you. And if you're a school and you're doing great, you should get more funding.

And other schools that do a shit job should either change or go out of business. It's really top down though. That's something that the school puts together, right? Of course great teachers show up and do it, but they're part of a very well thought out system. Somebody has somebody at the top goes, this is so important at this stage of their lives. We're going to do this. We're going to, we're going to make the parents do this thing. I mean, they literally like that takes some organization to do that. Yeah, absolutely. And buy in to get everybody to do that. And then look at the outcome of that.

So nice. Incredible, man. Speaking of kids, did you guys try Organifize the immunity powder? I just took mine home today so I have no I have it. Delicious. Oh you did the powder? They're scientists or whatever they use to formulate because it's organic it's good ingredients and artificial sweeteners they crush flavor they make the best you know because you can always taste artificial sweeteners the synthetic ones or you know they just you can always taste artificial sweeteners, the synthetic ones are, you know,

they just taste better than monk fruit and stevia. I mean, you know, that's just a fact, but Organifi just, I don't know how they do it, man. They've got the best tasting, non-ortificially sweetened stuff you'll find anywhere. Well, I mean, isn't that like, you've taught, I mean, you know me, I'm always like, it has to taste good. Isn't that like-

Especially for your kids, dude. Well, I mean, I don't care. It's for adults too, man. I mean, like it's, I mean I know you have the ability to swallow any pill or take any powders that we do, but a majority of people, if it's awful, it's really hard. It's already hard enough to be consistent with taking supplements. If it's not good too, or at least like bearable like it's an organified did a really good job of not only having quality products that are organic,

but then in addition to that. I like that they're going for the, like they're now coming out with products for kids, which is pretty good. What are the ingredients in that specifically, Doug? Let me see if I can find that. Oh yeah, you got orange and astrolabe cherry, astral, astragalus is how you pronounce that?

Astragalus. Astragalus. Elderberry. Elderberry propolis. Yeah, these are all immune boosting for children and for adults. So it's good stuff. By the way, speaking of spending and government stuff, you want to hear some fun facts about these expensive bills that they pass. Oh, let us know where the money's going.

Yay. So the $1.2 trillion spending bill, by the way, this is what they do. They'll put this bill through, massive. You only have a bunch of little stuff in there. You have like two days to read it, nobody reads it, they push it through because if you don't, you don't love people or whatever. But what they do is they squeeze in money and favors

for their friends and they name it something. Okay, so like for example, $850,000 went for a gay senior citizen home in Massachusetts. I didn't know that there were gay senior citizen homes, but okay. All right. $15 million went for Egyptian college tuitions, okay. $400,000 for a group that helps teens hide their gender.

And then $500,000 for an anti-racist nature appreciation group at the San Diego Zoo. That's my favorite one. At the San Diego Zoo? Wait, wait, wait. Anti-racist nature appreciation group at the San Diego Zoo. That's my favorite one. At the San Diego Zoo. It's an oomph. An anti-racist nature appreciation group. I wanna start a group like this. Wow.

You know what this is? This is like, you're a congressperson, I'm your friend, how can you give me half a million in a group? I'm gonna make a name of a group they can't touch. No, they cannot touch it. Anti-racist, like, change all the boxes. What, you're racist and you hate nature and we love animals I support that I must send the money oh my god find this group that is the hustle how are you an

anti-racist nature that's such a gangster move let's let's name it something you can't even say yeah that's great kills right, do we have a shout out for the day? Uh, what, what did we, I was actually, we did the podcast one the other day. That was a mic halfway through that. That was really good. What was the other one? We already, I gave the one on the octopus one, right?

You guys already did that one. I feel like I had another one I can't remember. You know, I might have one here. Give me a second here. Aren't you reading or pretending to read right now? No, I am reading actually, another one. I can't remember. You know, I might have one here. Give me a second here. Aren't you reading or pretending to read right now? No, I am reading actually, but I already said the book. So there was a, let me see. There's this influencer. Ah, here we go.

So she talks about, uh, parenting and she has an exceptional job communicating. Uh, her name is destiny and So Destiny with an I dot Anne on Instagram. About 60 something thousand followers. Really good information for parenting. So if you're a parent, you got little ones and you want some good info, go check that out. Look, you're not what you eat, you're what you digest and what you absorb. There's a company that makes a product called Masszymes that are digestive enzymes. For those of you that eat a high protein diet that want to break down those proteins and amino acids, get them to the target tissues. You want to break down those fats for your brain,

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It's been a while since we've talked about this. Yeah, doesn't affect either. There was a book that was a great marketing ploy. And it was like a blood type diet. And the theory was, you know, type O, for example, which is the universal donor, the original blood type, right? So they eat more chicken, less red meat. No, no, I think it was that they evolved from hunter gather. So the diet should be more hunter type, right? So they- You should eat more chicken, less red meat. No, I think it was that they evolved from hunter-gatherer,

so the diet should be more hunter-gatherer. Type A came later, so some dairy's okay, and some grains are okay, type B. And it was really just an invented theory. That sounds cool, because it sounds like it has some science, but there's zero, zero data to support. The data to support how it's been effective for the people it is, is that the same data

that it supports that anybody that starts tracking or doing anything sees results. So what you see, my roommate who was a chef, smart guy too, right, like he had these books and I remember he knew I was obviously the fitness guy so he was just like, oh, you gotta read this, bro, it's blowing my mind and I remember he knew I was obviously the fitness guy. So he was just like, Oh, you got to read this, bro. It's blowing my mind. And I've been following this diet and I feel so good and this and that.

And it's like, no, it's cause you're following a diet. Yeah. It's like, cause you're actually paying attention to what you eat. And like that in itself is the, is showing you the results. It has nothing to do with that. You're a type whatever, and you're eating, you're eating more of this and less of that. Did you know that in, in Japan for awhile, they were, a while, they would look, you look at your blood type in job interviews, maybe Doug can look this up, but I believe this was a trend because this

was like a theory that, and again, it hasn't been proven in any way, shape or form that your blood type has anything to do with, now blood type is associated with like some of a higher instance of certain types of diseases and others can be more protective against things like malaria and stuff like that. But when it comes to diet and exercise, there's nothing. I think there's more correlation going on with what region your family came from

than your blood type. So if you came from a certain region, it's more likely that, what's it say? Yeah, blood type personality theory is another one. Many people in Japan and Korea have been discriminated against because of their blood type. I'd love to know what their theory says. Like what do they say about the different blood types?

Do you guys know what your blood types are, by the way? I don't know what mine is. Yeah, I don't really know. Really? To be honest, yeah. I'm O, I know that because I give blood. Plus your universal donor. And they call me.

Is it O plus and negative or both? Both are universal. Right. Yeah. So, interesting. Yeah. There's no, there's no data to support anything in relation to diet or, or exercise.

Yeah. Next question is from SLF 2021. If you don't have access to heavier weights to have constant progression of overload to build muscle, would increasing the time under tension with a lighter weight still develop gains or is the overload realistically the most optimum or only way? Yes, to a point. What was the episode that we did? What do we title that one?

Different Ways to... Nine Ways to Progressively Overload, I think it was. Yeah. Something like that. So I think that's important that you understand that. That's a good episode to go listen to. Yeah, because you can add reps, add weight, you could increase your range of motion,

and you could slow down the reps, those are the ones that I remember, or that I use the most. But to a point, for sure, now if you get to the point where one rep is taking you 30 seconds, well now you've turned that set into an endurance type of strength training. But I mean, most people don't do a four second negative and that's hypertrophy.

That's muscle building. So most people, you just take a four second negative or a five second negative and they have to drop the weight by a good 20% just to be able to complete the desired number of reps. Changing the exercise is also a way to progressively overload. If you do bilateral squatting all the time and then switching to bulgarian split squats, watch what happens.

I mean, you're going to completely develop. Stability was a component of that too. Like if you never trained in a sort of. And range or end range strength, because that's something too. I mean, you don't want to obviously, it's like a whole nother exercise because, you know, your body's not used to that, it's not familiar, it's not providing enough strength in that range.

For me, now that I'm older, if I feel stronger, I don't add weight, I slow the rest down. I was just gonna say, in fact, I'm gonna go on a limb and say unless you're an athlete who, your sport is to lift more weight, right? So power lifting or Olympic lifting, then you're probably better off actually using some of the other techniques to progressively overload besides always just adding weight to the bar. That's the easy one, right? It's like, oh, I did this much, so I'm getting stronger. Let's add more

weight. But there's a lot of different ways that you can challenge a movement to continually build muscle and get stronger. It doesn't need to be this, you know. No, when I'm doing a set and I'm about to, let's say I want to hit 10 reps and I'm at number eight and I'm like, oh, I can probably do five more reps. I slow down, I'll pause in the stretch, I'll squeeze a little harder and I'll make it end at rep number 10. That's way better in terms of risk of injury. Gives you more longevity. I uh, you know, of injury. It gives you more longevity. I mean, and that's the thing. It's, I think, uh,

people get caught in that just always trying to add more weight and load. And then you're going to hit a plateau. You're going to inevitably just hit that, that max potential in that direction. Whereas if you've filled in and did all these other techniques, you would actually progress even further than you could have. Next question is from Alicia Thresher. You talk a lot about how to speak or approach family about fitness and health,

but how do you approach the topic towards your own children who are leading sedentary and unhealthy lifestyles? Yeah. So it depends on the age, but of course, ideally the children are born into an environment where this is just the way that the family lives I think the most Impact you can have on your kids is to be the example and it be a quiet Not like you don't you're not pushing it on anybody It's just this is not a lot of intensity behind you don't even have to say anything about it

You just do it kids are around you and the they are. Not a lot of intensity behind it. You don't even have to say anything about it. You just do it. Kids are around you and the next thing you know, they pick up on it. Consistently. Just, yeah. Consistently. I think this becomes more of a challenge. This is very, I can see, you know, I definitely have compassion for parents who pick up health and fitness.

Yes. And their kids have already grown up in a different environment. A hundred percent. That's like the worst. And then now they're trying to, you know, influence their influence their 11 or 12 year old or 13 year old into doing this because they've- I really like hearing both of you guys talk about this because I think you guys both have really different households and you obviously both are health and fitness is a priority

in both your households, but have very different, like your kids are into different things. And so it's interesting to hear how you both, you know, navigate this. Like I know you, Sal, you have your son's more into like robotics and gaming and things like that. I know your boys are somewhat into that too, but one of the things I've I've witnessed Justin do is Justin's a very outdoorsy active person. And I think when I think about like when the time comes where maybe my son is less, the first thing that comes to mind for me is I will need to go do more of that stuff. Recently I've talked about wanting to get more and back into basketball shape and

things like that. And part of that motivation too is that I want my son to see me doing that stuff. And so it's just a part of our life. It's not like me going, Hey, get outside and go play. You know, my dad sits, sits on his phone or gets on the computer. It's like, uh, that's going to be really tough to do. First is where's dad going? Oh, I'm heading to the park. Go play some hoop.

You want to come down with me and hang out the park or throw the football. Like, so I think that the best way to incur, and this, this, this would be the same too for the challenge that Sal brought up, which is the hardest, and I've had clients, right? The hardest are for sure a family that has decided to become a health and fitness family and they already have 9, 12, 13 year olds. By the way, when you do that, what you don't want to do is just all of a sudden change everything and say nothing to the kid because that's gaslighting them. What you want to

do is you want to sit them down, if they're old enough, right? So let's say you have a 13 year old and now you're like, we're going to change things. You sit them down and you say, look, I'm going to be going on this journey to improve my health and fitness. We're going to start eating differently in the

house and I'm going to be exercising regularly and we're going to be doing more outdoor activities. I know it's a big change. It's going to be different. It's going to be kind of an adjustment, but it's something that I really wanna do and it's good for me. And then be consistent with it.

What you don't wanna do is say it and then not do it because then the kids are gonna be like, I don't believe anything you say. But you gotta say something versus when they're born into it, you don't say anything at all. You just live it and you do it, in which case they're in it. They're in it without even realizing like this is how our family is.

And that's how I feel. I feel like Justin's done such a good job of that with his family, like, almost probably to a fault, he would say, because I know his boys get stir crazy if they're in the house for longer. Well, you've seen us on vacations. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, it's a little bit of a challenge there because, yeah, I have to get out, I have to do things, I have to move, I have to have activities planned and that kind of thing. But yeah, that's sort of the precedent that was set. But it's challenging because you don't always want to do that. No, the reason why I'm bringing it up is I think you do a really good job with this

and I've watched that and I want to model some of those behaviors. There's been times where we all go to our trucky place and all of our families are there. And I am definitely the person on vacation. I don't want to do shit. I want room service, put my feet up, I'm on vacation.

And I watched Justin sometimes get up at nine o'clock in the morning, first thing in the morning, and he's packing his family up and they're off to the water or they're off to outdoor fishing or they're doing something. It's like, man, that's, I'm sure there's times where you're like, man, I actually just want to sit down and relax without them and do nothing.

Which means the kids could very well default to playing video games on their iPad. And it's like, Hey, if I don't want them to do that, what's better than telling them, no, you can't play games on the iPad is, Hey, let's go fishing or Hey, let's go do that. So, you know, again, this falls back, I think on us, parents to be more proactive in those situations, even when we don't really want to, because we care so much about modeling those behaviors to our kids that we toughen. I mean,

I think that's part of being a dad. I think that's part of being a parent. It's like, you know, some of that shit is always fun. You become better. Yeah. Next question is from Mitzi RTRCT, how to choose between ashwagandha and rhodiola for stress and why? Great question. Both are known as adaptogens. So both of them improve the body's ability to deal with stress.

So which one do you pick? Well, they're both very different. Ashwagandha is more of an enzyolitic when it comes to its effects. In other words, it'll be more relaxing. it'll kind of bring things down a little bit, it's not going to make you hyper or give you more energy, it's just going to kind of bring things down. So if you need, if you're overstressed and you want something that's also going to give you kind of an anti-anxiety effect then go with ashwagandha. Rhodiola has this mild stimulant effect. If you want an adaptogen that's also going to give you some energy

and kind of fuel you through workouts or push you a little bit, then go with rhodiola. But you got to be very honest with the kind of person that you are because if you really need to bring things down, the rhodiola might not be for you. So those are the big distinctions between the two. I mean, when you say that, it's like probably the most support is probably how you personally, because I don't, I tend to not feel as good off the road. It's rhodiola, right? Rhodiola. Yeah, rhodiola is, and some people love that. Some people take it and they're like, it's amazing. But it probably-

Here's a funny thing. They both improve athletic performance. They both have been shown to help people build strength and build muscle. Just because you can handle the stress a little bit more appropriately. With both of them, right? But rhodiola, like you took rhodiola before going to bed, you're not going to get good sleep. You took ashwagandha before bed, you'll get

really good sleep. So you got to kind of know what you need more of. The challenge though is sometimes everybody says they need more energy. When in reality, I'm like this, I don't always need things to give me a stimulant effect. In fact, ashwagandha sometimes makes me have more energy because it brings things down and calms me down.

Now I know Organifi's Green Juice has ashwagandha. What has rhodiola out of our partners? Red juice. Oh, the red juice. Organifi's red juice has rhodiola. It has rhodiola in there. So I would go red juice as a pre-workout and the green juice anytime.

And you'll have those adaptogens in there perfectly. Look, if you like this show, check out our free burn fat guide or loose fat guide. You can find it at mindpumpfree.com. You can also find all of us on social media. Justin is at mind pump Justin on Instagram. I'm at mind pump to Stefano and Adam is at mind pump Adam. Thank you for listening to mind pump. If your goal is to build and shape your body, dramatically improve your health

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