Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 233: Olympic Lifts, Casein vs Whey Protein, Exercise & Pregnancy & MORE

Episode Date: February 5, 2016

Q&A #2 for the week! Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about integrating Olympic lifts into workout, staying active when pregnant, difference between casein & whey protein, worse gym fails, and how to maintain muscle when forced to take an extended break. Please subscribe, rate and review this show! Learn more about Mind Pump at www.mindpumpradio.com

If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. Mite, op, mite, op with your hosts. Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. Check this out, remember the other day I was talking about my client at Farts all the time? Yeah. So, you told her. So, no. God, why don't you tell her, you pussy? What do you want me to tell her?

Hey, listen to my show, I talked about your fart. We went through a whole process of options for you to say. No, dude, I'm training it up. I'm training my client, a different client, and he's doing push ups. And I feel like, it's safe. I feel like, okay, I can let one eat out, you know what I mean? You could?

I had to, I had to, I had to get you comfortable, bro. I had to fart, you know what I mean? Come on, bro, you ain't gonna hold your fart all day long, right? I mean, I had to go, right? So he's cropped at it. What I tried to do was I tried to fart, you know what I mean? Come on, bro, you ain't gonna hold your fart all day long, right? I mean, I had to go, right? So he's cropped at it. What I tried to do was I tried to, and I'm sure you guys have done this before, you try to release it in stages

so that it doesn't, it is a good one. It's gonna make it noise, at least it's gonna be like a little mousey squeak. Like, you know what I was like, ba, right? It's crazy. But what happened is, and I'm thinking of the science now because it, ba, right? Squirtue. But what happened is, and I'm thinking of the science now

because it's me, right? Okay. What happened was because I did that, ended up making, like, you know when you get a balloon, you let the air out, but you squeaky, like you pull the sides of the balloon out, so it goes, yeah dude. Yeah.

So like a mosquito was flying through the gym. And, yeah, yeah. And so I'm like, but like it was already happening, you know what I mean? So I'm like, I'm like, what is that? Oh yeah, and so I'm like, but like it was already happened. You know what I'm like, I'm like, what is that? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So like around. Yeah. So I'm like, did anybody hear that in my client?

My client for you. You just push up. He looks at me and he goes, do you need a girl bathroom? Yeah. Yeah. So there you go. Dude, you know, the other time I've done that, the other times I've done that,

you tell these fart stories. I do, I love them. The other times I've done this, I'll say something while it's happening. So I kind of like the sound, you know, I'm like, four more, but meanwhile it's a, four more reps.

Four, four, four, four. You know, your training stock is slowly going down by this. Nobody wants to hire me. Yeah, no, we talked about one day about, you know, training our audience, right? Having like a mind pump, higher your mind pump trainer, right? A higher your favorite trainer.

You know, a lot of people are like, man, I would love to join with Sally so smart. But now people are like, well, I don't know if I want to get fucking shit on when I'm working. Hey, hey, some people pay a lot of money for that. Google that right now. Just like the, the piling muscle puns. It's finding muscle worship. That's $500.

That's $500. Adam's got that one unlocked. Did you ever, Adam, I want you to be honest. Listen, this is the fucking, before I say what I'm gonna say, I'm a preface this by saying, this is the truth zone. There's no lying here. Keep it. There's no fucking lying in your circle.

Super private, right? Any lie that comes out. Any lie that comes out, there's bad, bad juju okay Adam Have you ever made a muscle posing video for anyone? Of course anytime Wow you did really was it for money? Yeah, you don't think I really afford all these nice things without stupid She like that you so you oiled up and flexed

I'm gonna fuck out of here. I didn't do that. Did I do that? Is that you in that blue? Fuck speedo. I you'm my second my follow computer. I got to throw away my follow up question. Oh, I wasn't be like, can you make one for me? You didn't, you didn't do it. No, you know, I know Justin asked. I've definitely got a bunch,

I mean, probably over the last couple of two, probably last two years, I've probably somewhere between 20 and 30 of those have hit my inboxes before. Were they asking to pose for them? Yeah, were they asking? I mean, I entertained it as far as wanting to find out how much I would actually get paid for it.

But most, they want to pay like a hundred something bucks or 200 bucks and say, that's not enough. That's not enough money. No, it's not. I wouldn't have enough money. I'm crazy enough. I would consider it for good. I'm like, well, what's flexing my muscle and my chest,

but whatever. I get up on stage and do that and oiled up in front of fucking thousands of people. That'll, that'll enter its way into your dreams. Yeah, that's maybe like some guy just watching you. Like, oh, no. Well, why do you have to do the hand? You do it with your hand there.

Stop looking at me in the eyes. I'm telling you, I'm telling you, that's all I want you. You're right. I would get nightmares. I thought about it. That's why I look at it this way. I'm about you. You're right. I would get night. I thought about it Just why I look at this way. I'm gonna put those eyes Just and don't I dream. Oh, it looks like you're shaking dice. Can you stop that? We're not playing crap if we if we're going to if I'm going to have nightmares like that

I better have some extra money in my bank account, you know, and a hundred fifty two hundred plus I'm saying like it has to be them enough money to where if someone finds it, like if my family is on mine, like, oh my God, it's a video of Sal flexing for someone else, oiled up this. It is great bikini. And they could be great bikini underwear. Yeah, and they come to me, they're like,

Sal, what did you do? And I'd be like, I made $500,000. Listen, like I want to be able to say that and they'd be like, oh, you see that boat over there? Yeah, that's cool. I don't want to be like, oh, you see that boat over there? Yeah. That's cool. I don't want to be like, oh really? You like my new fucking Adidas?

Flex. I think about these Adidas. Yeah. These tennis shoes. These Adidas. No, exactly. I got them. I got them a big five.

Everything has its number, right? I mean, everything has its number, isn't it? Do you agree? How much money for you to pay to do nude posing? Mane. Live nude posing to. Live? Yeah. That a kid. You're like. Live nude posing to live? Yeah, live. Let's see, you're like,

when the stuff is in your hands. Ago viral and everything. No, no, no, no, it's not on the internet. It's private life. Okay, so private party, I go to a private party. I'm already on Plexiglass. I'm between you and Hungry. Well, let's be real here.

The only reason why Adam never did stripping is because he can't fucking dance. That's the only reason. Oh, wow. Yeah, I'm gonna. This might be true. It's gonna work on that. It'm gonna. This might be true. I'm gonna work on that. This might be true.

I don't know what that number would be. It would have to be double whatever I think because I'm sure I've this split it with my girl. I'm pretty sure she wants half of it if I'm gonna get to do some of this. She has to pimpe you out of the toilet. Yeah, she'll be like, nah, you're gonna have to do that. I'm gonna put a number out there just in case a listener's like, I want to sell the flex for me.

Here's the number. I'm gonna put it out there, you think about it. Just think about it. That's the world. Five million dollars. That's all I ask. Five million dollars. I'll be flexing for you.

Oh, I'll do it for a tent of that. Don't see your stupid now, you just fucking ruined, you undercut me. I did. Because you're just greedy, bro. That's what I was saying. Don't fuck with my sale, but you're undercutting shit. He's going five million, I'll sleep with you, bro.

For five million? Fuck yeah, five million. You're gonna get salad. You get some great foods, bro. You guys coming at you. I got what? I got dudes from Dubai. Get one of those sheets.

Yeah, go, go, go, hammer that out. The actual petrol on me. Yeah, you got so much oil. Yeah, appreciate. All right, you know what? Because Adam made promises a couple of weeks ago, we're gonna have to do another quaw. Oh yeah. It's time for the year. Welcome. Time for weeks ago, we're going to have to do another quaw. Oh yeah.

It's time for the year. Welcome. Time for the war. Let's go Doug. Ask us a question. Doug, any question you want, Doug? I've got lots of questions. Any question.

Pick any question. First to announce. Pick the first one on the board, please. I will. I will. I wrote it earlier. It's quaw. I am boundless.

It has asked this question about integrating the Olympic lifts into workouts even though you have no intention to become an Olympic lifter. Pretty sure Justin wanted that question up there. I did. I'm here. I was just gonna get some coffee. We had to throw Justin a bone. This is what happens when Adam shows up late to work here. I get here and there's already five questions that we've chose and it looks like the first one we're going to do. But you saw what happened like a couple episodes ago. It was like a barrage.

It was like five in a row of macros. We'll say macros from my day. Macro Monday. That's what we're going to call it for now. Macro Monday. I am right now. You guys need riddle in. Stay focused.

No, I'm focused. You guys distract me. I stay focused. No, I focus you guys distract me I always try to like explain it and you detract me That's my excuse Yeah, Olympic lifts so I do them if you have a good solid background of doing an Olympic lift very very complex very you know specific type of movement that you have to have proper coaching to even attempt. So all that aside, if you actually have a background in it and it's something that you want to keep established as far as, I mean, they're great movements.

Like they're very involved. I mean, just like a squad of deadlift, one of these compound movements, you can really get a lot of benefit. And it's a good translation of where you are as far as your power. That's really how I gauge like a power clean. So I keep a power clean into my workout routine because, you know, I want to keep that established as a go-to for me to kind of see where I am. Because I want to see how my strength translates now into moving it quickly.

Which is power, power, strength. That's fast. So that's really how I use it. I use it more as a gauge of where I am. I want to make sure that I can build strength, but then I can also maintain power or I can build strength, but then I can also maintain power, or I can increase power by building my way back up and then going through the different adaptations again to promote a more powerful body on top of being strong. So we've got to be clear.

I got to call you, I want to ask you a couple questions. I'm glad we did this one actually. First of all, what constitutes a Olympic lift? What makes it an Olympic lift and not just a power lift? Yeah, there's a difference, too. So Olympic lift, basically, what I'm doing with an Olympic lift, more you're looking at like, you're cleaning jerks and things like a snatch.

They're the lifts that are very complex. They're the lifts that are done in competition on the Olympic bottom line. Exactly. They are the lifts that they compete in the Olympics. Power lifts. Now are different lifts that are in different competitions. Are all Olympic lifts ripped from the floor? Yep. Do you pull every Olympic lift off the floor? You're not doing a hand clean. Yeah. They don't use a bench. They don't use anything except your. So that might be one thing that would would constitute it as an Olympic lift, right? You have to, it has to be something that you're ripping.

That's a good point, because I brought a power clean, but yeah, I was, I mean, I, I, I use that more. Cause I go between the two, because it's like a variation. It is confusing, cause yeah, like an Olympic list of very specific lift that has a very specific way that you have to do it for competition. So, um, yeah, like I, So yeah, like I guess like doing an Olympic

lift, if that's your thing, like that has to be your thing. If you want to keep that into your workout, I would see more relevance out of power lifts than I would Olympic lifts personally. Well, here's a thing with OlympiLivis. We have to be very clear. Of all the exercises that you could do with barbells and dumbbells and weights or whatever, Olympic lifts by far, by a long shot are the most complex. They're the most technical

and they require the most skill. By far, it's a skill. By far, as technical as a squat is, a squat is like, no. Elementary school. It's nothing. It's nothing compared to your most basic Olympic lift, by far as technical as a squat is, a squat is like, no, it's nothing. It's nothing compared to your most basic Olympic lift, which would be a power highest risk for injury out of any of these movements. Right. You have, when you look at exercises, there's a risk versus reward that you

get to look at. And the risk with Olympic lifts is very high. The reward is also high, but many times for most of you listening right now, it's not worth the risk because you don't have an Olympic coach, teach, look, I do hand cleans. That's about as far as I go personally. If I'm gonna go further in my Olympic lifts, and I've been a trainer for a long time,

and I know more about exercise than most people listening to the show right now, I would wanna work with someone specifically on my Olympic lifts and I'd want to master and perfect them. Now can you build power without Olympic lifts for the average person? Yes, you can. You could do kettlebell moves which require less technique. Kettlebell or dumbbell, it's all in how you're being, you know, you're accelerating the weight. Exactly. So there's a lot of benefit from doing Olympic lifts,

but they're technical as hell. And so I would say if you're trying to do Olympic lifts and you want to learn how to do them, stick to just them. Stick to and practice them for a long-ass time with sub-maximal weight, like real lightweight. All you do is perfecting your form over and over and over and now it's clarified long-ass time.

That's not weeks or months. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. It would take, if you took a normal person healthy, not injured or anything like that, and they practice the Olympic lifts, it would take like a year before they're really comfortable, like going for power and really going for, you know,

and that's someone practicing and getting trained on how to do it. I feel it has to be at least that. I feel like it took me close to a year of really, really dialing my squat in when I started lifting heavy squat too, especially, I mean, anybody can get under there and put the bar under it and start squatting down

and think you're doing all right. But if you start putting some serious weight on your back, what you're gonna, when you're doing an Olympic lift, you're gonna be moving some big weight. And to move that kind of weight with that much explosive power and getting that much connectivity throughout your entire body to move together on such a complex movement. It's almost like a sport. I mean, it's just like a sport. So, yeah, if you look at it as a sport, there's a lot of processes that you have to do, you know, to get the kind of flexibility and supported

tension to throw a weight over your head and then get the kind of range of motion you need to catch it. And then also like if you're doing a low catch or something like that in a snatch like, oh my God, you have to be able to build a support system. So you have to do all these crazy functional movements that you see some people doing. You're like, wow, why the hell are they doing that? Why are they holding all this weight over their head constantly? And it's because they have to. They have to be able to establish the fact that, you know, this is a priority. I need to get my shoulder to be able

to come back this far and be supported and strong in that. And so I have to do all these like stuff like, you know, Turkish get ups and different movements that will translate specifically to getting a better overhead snatch. Well, this is why I this is one of the main reasons why I think we have a problem with cross fit. Yeah, what? Yeah, programs that incorporate Olympic lifts in a fatigue-based setting or circuits, they're stupid. Because, let me give you an analogy. It would be me taking someone who's never learned how to walk. So somebody who can't walk.

And I'm like, we're gonna do sprints because it's really good for you. Like before you learn how to sprint, you gotta learn how to balance. You gotta learn how to not fall. Then you gotta learn how to like walk slowly. Then we gotta practice going up, stay. You gotta learn how to fall correctly. You gotta learn how to fall correctly.

You gotta learn how to fall correctly. Oh, that's the thing, right? Exactly. Here's a deal, break down to power clean. Like, I have a way on the floor, I'm squatting down. I have to accelerate it rapidly with the straight line. With the straight line. With perfect form in the straight line,

get underneath it, catch it properly on my front delts with my arms without hurting my wrist, without blasting myself in the face with the bar, without doing anything horrible, and coming up with a nice clean flexibility and your wrists and your elbows. I mean, I'm telling you right now, I can't get properly.

We could take 500 elite athletes who've never Olympic lifted, and I can hurt every single one of them in one day with Olympic lifts because they've never done it before. So that first year of training with Olympic lifts, you're not building power, ladies and gentlemen, you're not doing a power movement. Perfecting a craft.

You're just perfecting the skill. Yeah, it's the skill to build that movement. And then later on, that movement, right? Your skill has to be, you have to be so comfortable with the movement that it's like second nature. And then you can master power. Well, and then talk about programming, like I just want to bring it to the maps performance because if people, you know, aren't clear, we put in, you know, some high pulls and thinking

about that, like initially I wanted to include. I wanted to include a part. I remember that we were saying now I'm talking about. Yeah. And we really were discussing this and it's like, you know, yeah, that really is a skill that you have to work towards for a long period of time. And we have to make this a little more accessible and get the benefit of what a power clean is trying to promote. And so we came up with this high pool. And so it was like, what we could do is do sort of a hand clean, but we could do it with that same ferocity of the movement. And then without flipping or touching the

bar, being catching or any of that stuff, because I know a lot of people don't have the risk mobility, don't have the shoulder support system in place yet, they don't have, you know, the range of motion yet to be able to get under properly and throw their elbows up high enough to catch it. And so, if you want to just sit and pick a part, one by one, this tempo is too long. And this phase, there's too much rest. From a subsurface level, a lot of these things are going to be foreign. These are going to be very foreign to the way that some other programs have

created them, because they're going off of field. They're going off of emotion. They're going off of people's feedback. If I like this, I like that. It makes me feel good. I'm like, I'm getting my ass kicked. But what we're trying to do is establish the fact that this is an adaptation. We're taking you, we're placing you in a position where we want to make sure that this is, this is what we're going to achieve. That the adaptation is the achievement, not the learning and skill. Right. So, you know, I'm going to say people might not like it because it's different. It's uncomfortable. It's you know, it's something that they You know, it's a mindset going into it that you have to address Here's a deal. Well, let me let me give it a example of kind of what okay, so I'm on I'm on phase two of performance right now Yesterday, I'm doing our maps high lows

So the maps high lows are something that Justin has as created. That's when you're sending us the group tax in your town. Yeah, you're telling everybody to fuck yourself. Yeah, I told Justin go fuck himself on these. Because so I felt the love of that. Well, in the video, Justin's doing these high lows with a 55 pound plate on the the bar. So he's doing it with like a hundred something pounds. And so I think, well, maybe I'll start with like half that just because I've never done it, I want you to perform. And I down near fucking killed myself. I had to drop it all the way down to the yellow,

which is what is that 15 kilograms, it's about 30 pounds or whatever. And, you know, I definitely can just one arm shoulder press more than that. I can definitely lunge more than that. But because it was such a diverse movement, it's a compound movement and I've never done it before, I wanted to perfect it, and I want to concentrate

on what I'm supposed to be thinking about, where I'm supposed to be feeling, how I'm supposed to be driving, and really, and I still got a great workout. Could I have done 20, 30% more weight? Absolutely, I could have done it, but that's not the point of all this stuff. The point is to learn that, you know?

You're paying attention to how your body was responding. Absolutely. And that's the first priority out of this. And I think that's the big thing that we try and get across. And you have to ask yourself, when you ask a question like, should we do, do we think Olympic lifts and go into a traditional lifting?

Like, the real question is, why would you do that? Why would you even want to do that? What is your desired outcome? Are you? If your desire is power, there's lots of ways to build power that are extremely effective, that require far less technical ability. Well, that's why we have that phase built into performance.

There's a phase that focuses on that. Then there's a phase where you're going to focus on traditional type. There should be phases of your training where you're focused on that versus throwing it all together like fucking CrossFit does. Let's just put it all together and see you get benefits from all of it. Well, yeah, no shit, but that's not the idea and that's not how we should train the body. Yeah.

Our next question is from Hope Granger. And that's her question is how to stay active when pregnant. And that's her question is how to stay active when pregnant? Hmm. Stay active when pregnant. So the human body is actually pretty amazing during pregnancy. And you can do a lot while pregnant, but here's the key. This is what I always do. This is what I always do.

Everything, bro. Well, here's what I tell my clients. I tell my clients when they get pregnant, you're not trying to set records or do anything new or do anything new when you're pregnant. Because the mistake I see a lot of women make is that they all of a sudden get pregnant. They're like, oh my god, I need to start working out. I need to start this new routine

because I'm going to get pregnant. The key is to always be active. Then when you get pregnant, you just maintain that level of activity while listening to your body because there will be a point when fatigue's going to set in, when your core stability's gone, when you're obviously going to your body, because there will be a point when fatigue's gonna set in, when your core stability's gone, when you're, you know, you're obviously gonna be heavier, you're gonna move differently, that you're gonna have to modify your workout. But the key is to not start an aggressive routine, just because you're pregnant. You want to do it before and then continue.

Well, let's be honest, like, what's supporting your spine once you start getting even more, you would get bigger and bigger, right? So you got to be conscious of that fact. Like everything's going to start getting uncomfortable. Like that was just normal daily activities. Yeah, so when you take a muscle, for example, when you take a muscle and you put it in a stretched position, it's automatically weaker. So if I were to take your, your bicep or your hamstring and I put it in a deep, deep stretch and then tell you to fire it real hard,

you're not gonna be able to activate it to its ability. Because partly it's a protection mechanism, central nervous system dampens it because you're in a dangerous situation. If you flex it too hard in that stretch position, you might tear it. Long period of time, make it clear. Even if I just hold your...

Deadlift, you take through a stretch in the hamstring and you come back up and you can do that. Yeah, but you're going from load and up. You're not trying to say you're not holding. You're not sitting there. It's for 30s. It's that gold you tend to release is that makes puts it in that position.

Right, so when your pregnant, you, when as the midsection starts to grow because the baby's obviously growing, you're stretching those core muscles. So abdominal, the abdominals in particular, but all the muscles that are underneath and around it stretch and become less effective at stabilizing your core, and this is why women will get back pain when they're pregnant. So now all of a sudden what's stabilizing you are deep hip flexors, maybe some obliques and your erectus pinae. So then you want to modify your workout based on that. So like, I'm not going to do planks. I've seen women pregnant women like eight and nine. I'm already getting

enough stress on your back. Like I see them doing a plank and their, you know, plank is to strengthen the front side of your core. What's supporting them is their hip flexors on lower back. That's it. And and then you see that kind of what is that called tenting when the abdominum started to try to contract around the, the, the baby and you get like this, this ridge, you know, down the midsection So, I mean, just listen to your body but maintain your level of activity as long as you can and be smart about it. One work on too. Work on like squatting is a great thing to do for pregnant lady.

I mean, like prepping them into the process of, you know, the actual like having birth, you know, like giving birth. Like, and also just hip mobility, just opening those hips, because I mean, the whole process is to open you up, right? So to allow this baby to come out. So just working on that will really help. And obviously, like there's things like prenatal yoga and all these types of things that are available

that I know my wife went through and had a lot of benefit, but it was just staying active at the level that she was already used to. It's not that now the Sun I'm pregnant, I have to work out, and now I'm like adding even more stress on top of the stress my body's already internally going through. You know, it's really just being able to keep that activity.

Yeah. Well, it's this interesting thing. When you're pregnant, your body, and I've heard a woman tell me this, it's not yours anymore, all of a sudden, its goal is to grow this fetus and things start to change. And so people tend to have a plan, like, this is what I'm going to do when I'm pregnant, I'm going to do this workout, I'm going to eat like this, and that you can throw that shit out the window because your body's gonna, basically it's gonna tell you what it wants in there. And you'll be throwing out the whole time.

Yeah, it's gonna tell you what it wants to do. Well, what about, I mean, stay in a way for maybe just to prone position is what the only thing you have to worry about then, I mean, you shouldn't be laying on your belly to do anything, that's why even the plank is kind of, yeah, when you get bigger, you know, I mean, but you can do so much too when you're pregnant.

I mean, I guess the key is to not go way out of what you were already doing before you were pregnant. But I will say this, to be very, very, very clear, if you exercise before pregnancy, during pregnancy, and after pregnancy, your recovery on all levels. Not only does it speed up, you'll blow your, the minds of your friends and family around you. I've seen women come in shortly after pregnancy

and they're just, they're back at it because they were maintaining the whole time. I've trained, God, over the last 12 years, probably 20 people before, during and after their pregnancy. And it blows me away at how fast they recover, and how they feel. And by the way, that's resistance training. Resistance training, if you need to pick a form

of exercise and I know I've harped on this before with other things while your pregnant resistance training, if all you have is time and energy for one thing, do resistance training, it will blow the doors off of your prenatal yoga, your cardio, any of that stuff. All that, of course. Do you remember the little short, little red headed girl that used to train at Santa Teresa as she could compete?

Yeah, yeah. She, I'll never forget her squatting like 135 when she was like belly, all eight months in. Just squatting, doing it with training. Now she trained that way. She was a competitor. She'd kept herself in year round phenomenal shape. But I wrote the crazy part was looking

at her literally 30 bounding. Oh, 30 days later that she had six pack abs nuts dude like literally six pack abs separation. I gotta be honest like there's there's times two where like there's like style saying listening to the body because like that's how it was with the first pregnancy right with with my son like it was great like worked out everything everything worked out just that same way. Resistance training, everything was awesome. Second pregnancy, there's complications,

there's other things going on that, like we had to be careful because it's not about you through that whole process. I think that's a dangerous place to be, where if you're trying to press yourself too much when your body's telling you to relax. I don't have a question about that, actually. I want to see you remember.

Do you remember a difference in your wife's training leading up to pregnancy in the two? Yep. Was she in much better to condition going into the first person, absolutely compared to the second? Yeah, absolutely. But I mean, and she was like on her way to give her credit,

she was working out and everything in the second time, but then, you know, complications. And so then we had to, you know, she just couldn't, couldn't do those rigorous activities she was doing before, because it immediately led to something happening, right? So you got to be careful. Well, we can't forget this very important fact that for most of human civilization,

childbirth was the number one cause of death, probably across the board. Women died at very high rates, which is why they live longer than us now, because we've kind of solved that, right? That problem. And women live longer than us, probably because they fucking were tested for so many,

you know, how many thousands of years by giving birth. Think about it. Every C section, every breach, every, you know, hemorrhage. Think of the infections. Like, you're, your chance of dying during childbirth for a long time, we're pretty, pretty high, very high. It was most, most dangerous thing you'd ever do. And it's a very taxing thing on the body. So getting, being fit for that only fucking makes sense. It's like you wouldn't enter into a fricking marathon never working out or enter into a, you know, a Cumatae, you know, martial art tournament or something, never training.

You're entering into the most challenging fit physical thing you're ever gonna do, probably an entire life. It makes sense to be fit before you get pregnant and then during that pregnancy to prepare yourself for what happens during pregnancy, what happens during childbirth and what happens afterwards. You talk about things like postpartum depression greatly reduced when women are fit before during and after.

You look at all the complications with the pelvic floor, the muscles of the pelvic floor, where they can't control their blood and all these different things that happen. So much better when women are fit before, during and after exercise. So it's just something that I think, unfortunately, it's difficult for people to do, so I hope I'm not shaming women who didn't work out while pregnant.

I'm a man, obviously, I'm never going to get pregnant, but it's just one of those things. Until science catches up. It's a very important thing. No, I'll pregnant. Yeah. It's a very important, very, very important thing, and I would say resistance training should be the focus.

100%. I'm gonna pregnant your face. Oh. That was really gross. Yeah. Beautiful. Andrea Fittmom is asking about the difference between casing and way protein and which one you recommend.

Both come from dairy. Way protein, believe it or not, dairy-maker manufacturers use a throwaway because it's like a byproduct of making cheese and they toss it. And so then some really brilliant person figured, hey, we could turn this into, let's use the way. Protein powder and boom, you have way protein. But there is a difference between the two.

Way protein is very high in branchy amino acids. Highers like our bovine extractor guy. Which, remember the genius pitch we got about the bovine. Oh, the supplements. Extracted. the bovine. Oh the supplements extracted Some guy some guy tried to guess the cellos supplements. I was making up some shit Way protein high in branching amino acids higher than casing Very quickly utilized by the body so when they test the blood for amino acid concentrations They rise rapidly after the consumption of way

Way protein will also spike insulin a little bit concentrations, they rise rapidly after the consumption of way. Way protein will also spike insulin a little bit because it's absorbed so quickly. So it'll actually give you a little bit of an insulin spike. This makes way a good protein to have post workout because of the quick absorbing nature of it. Casing, a lot slower. Casing, believe it or not,, actually is actually better for maintaining nitrogen balance in the blood because it doesn't come in so quickly.

It kind of lingers and it takes longer to absorb and utilize by the body. They find that way protein, it absorbs so quickly that a lot of it actually gets oxidized and burned off as energy. So probably not like, it's not the freaking holy grail of protein that they make it sound. It's good for one particular person. What is case scene like,

I mean, do people will cycle off of way because of the receptors, right? At a certain point, you're not gonna absorb way like, this thing, or is it kind of, no, they're all proteins. Just whatever. They're all protein.

You wanna use different types of proteins because of different amino acid profiles. And then of course things like gut flora and stuff like that. Like even going like hemp protein or something like that. Yeah, I mean, experiment. And we're, you know, I hate to say this all. It's like we're splitting hairs again, man. I was waiting for someone to say I was going to smack you.

It's going to be like, come on. Who gives a shit to be honest? You know what I'm saying? Between the two of them, they're both fine for you. The marketing's ploy behind this bullshit is they try and get you to buy away for the daytime In a casing for fucking night, right? You know, you can use way at nighttime, you know, it's not gonna make you Fancy just because the bro science well, yeah, that is that is that is the bro science It's it's the you know, you buy the way yeah, but if you take the way with like peanut butter where you've slowed Now the absorption there you go exactly so that perfect that's where I'm heading with this is that the the only that's the, you know, you buy the way, or... Yeah, but if you take the way with like peanut butter, where you've slowed down the absorption. There you go.

Exactly. So that's perfect. That's where I'm heading with this is that, that's the only difference is the absorption rate really between case and, and ways that's going on here. And the whole pitch is that you want this slow digestive process through the night versus getting it shot right into your system.

Well, dude, what ended up happening was they sold a shit ton away, way became super popular. Ty and Branshee, me know that's a tie and glutamine. It's great for you. And then the manufacturers like, well, fuck, we need to be able to sell them like another kind of protein. And so they're like, casing, also from milk. You know, incidentally, they're probably getting the casing

from the same people they're getting the way from. And now they get it at a discount. And then people started drinking chocolate milk. And they're like, fuck! I got both. You gotta realize something with the supplements that were being sold. They don't sell you the supplements because those are the best supplements to sell you. They're selling you the supplements because it's in their best interests to sell you what they're selling you. So they're

going to sell you heavily on way and heavily on casing because they both from dairy, both both easy to get. They probably get them from the same place they're getting way. Way is pretty cheap now, you can get it. It used to be a waste product. That's pretty much it. I mean, there's a lot of benefit from different types of proteins. I'd say get a whole variety of them, but yeah, we're splitting hairs, man. I mean, here's a deal.

K-scene absorbs slower, way absorbs faster. Fine. I let you show me the study, show me the study that shows that one over the other builds more muscle, like significantly. That's what I want to say. I don't give a shit about your amino acid concentrations I let me show me the study show me the study that shows that one over the other build more muscle like significantly That's what I want to say. I don't give a shit about your amino acid concentrations in your blood or 13% higher. What the fuck does that mean does that mean anything? No, are you gonna build more muscle?

Maybe not but that is just to show you how they take a little bit of science right there and then like they can build this whole Marketing scheme and just last night Sal and I posted a video talking about, you know, meal time and stuff like that. And you know, people are, you know, want to want to about, oh, somebody, you know, I've seen studies that say this, well, you gotta always be careful when you see, you think you see studies or you read something

in a magazine or you heard a doctor said this or whatever, if the someone in company is one hiring the motherfuckers to run the study or do that, they can easily take little bits of science like that and put a whole spin on words to make it sound like it's so important that you get this slow absorbing protein. If you want to maximize muscle building effects and they'll use percentages and numbers, it's 32% better for you. Yeah, I mean, no. Oh, it's awesome.

Here's the deal. KCN Absorbs slower. So you take it at night, eat a steak. That absorbs way fucking slower. If we're gonna use that rationale, so Doug, did you want to say that? No, I was gonna ask him about the insect protein. Oh, yeah. I wanted to go into that,

like, and how you got to introduce to it and all that kind of stuff. Yeah, I was listening to Tim Ferris show, which is a really good podcast, highly recommend it. He markets that or sells it. It's one of his sponsors. It's a cricket-based protein bar. It's a big, interesting. Cricket flower. It's a little high in sugar, though. Interesting. I found it. So what's the deal behind it? The deal behind it, for one, is that crickets are more of a sustainable

source of protein. That's what I thought it's easy to have them and people don't care for kill them. Yeah, and they're saying that insects could feed the world in the future. And there's a lot of different cultures that do consume insects. We just happen to think that it's gross. We poop on it.

But I tasted it. I mean, I ate two of the bars. I meant to bring one here so you guys could try it out. What, do you happen to know what the sugar content is in that one? It's like 12 fish bait? No, it doesn't. Oh, good.

It tastes like a, they use dates to sweeten it. So it's about 12 grams of sugar. That's not too bad. Yeah, and it's only 10 grams of protein. So if you're looking for a high protein bar, it's not too high. I can't really pack it in there. It tastes good enough.

I mean, I like to go for a little bit. So the rate, okay, so that's a good point in it. And I know I just said it's not very high. It isn't very high. 12 grams of sugar is not very high for a protein bar. She had most protein bars have 20 to 30 some grams of protein. But it's 30 grams. Yeah, it's the ratio.

Yeah, the ratio is very... Well, here's a deal. If I'm in a ETA bar and I rarely ever do, if I'm in ETA bar, it's not gonna be a meal replacement. I seriously it annoys the shatty me that I look at a protein bar. Yeah, and it's 300 400 calories got 50 grams of pro It's like okay Don't replace your meals with bars. Please if you're gonna eat a bar because you want to snack fine But you know replacing a meal with a bar. That's crazy. I'm gonna I'd rather eat 400 calories of food Yeah, you know what I'm saying way more if I'm eat a bar, it should be 150 pounds. We're satisfying. Exactly.

Exactly. Next, next, qua. Yeah, the next qua is from Dan R87. And Adam, I'm going to have to have you read this one. What, what, what's have been your own worst gym? Why do I have to have this? So the guy, I set you up.

Dan who wrote that, Dan wrote that in interesting language. You might not English, might not be not English man. I think Siri was What's that been your own worst Jim fails? Adam he kind of took a page out of your book I was hoping you I was hoping you were gonna give him a grammatical slap. Oh, you know me I was an irony of it. Oh, yeah. No, that was obviously he read my post that I did recently You didn't give a fuck you put it out there. Yeah, that's awesome. I love it. He's the best. You didn't give a fuck. You put it out there. Yeah, that's awesome.

I love it. So what gym fails? Let's talk about some gym. I have one. Yeah, but you guys can go first if you want. Okay, I guess I'll go. Okay, you go. That was weird.

I was looking at the board. Who does that? That's what do we do that? Like I say, I got a great start. Hey, I got a great start. Let's go ahead and start yourself. But now go. Yeah, wait, wait.

That was weird. So I was, I don't know, I might have told this story before, but I'll tell it again. I'm at the YMCA. Oh, yeah, I don't want to hear this one. And I'm, you know, I'm scared. I'm scared. And I'm 15 years old. And I'm doing a bench press.

And I'm doing a strip set bench press. So I don't have callers on, right? So. Take off this clothes. Yeah, take off my clothes. So this is when you're benching and then you take off a weight, a plate on each side and you keep bench press. So I don't have collars on, right? So take off this clothes. Yeah, take off my clothes. So this is when you're benching and then you take off a weight, a plate on each side and you keep benching. And so I'm doing all this. And so then the last set, I'm like,

I'm just gonna do a straight set, you know, kind of heavy. And which had all these tens on it, instead of having a 45 or whatever. No collars. So big mistake, number one. Yes. So I'm going down to bench and this is back in the day when I used to lift failure Except it only better. So I'm going really hard. I'll plus I remember there was some hot girls in there I mean, I was trying to look cool

So I'm freaking struggling my ass off and I come down and I try to press it up And it was I should have stopped the rep before I'm not making it It's halfway up and that shit is there. It's stuck and I'm and I'm you know Then the thought goes through your head like what now, right? As I'm doing this, the bar starts to tilt to one side. Well, the plates start to slide off the side of the bar, which makes it, so epic when you see someone do this, which makes it super momentum.

Makes it heavier on one side, because now the lever is lengthening on that side. The weight is coming down that lever, so I'm like, and I'm already tired, so I can't stop. You can't counter. So I'm like, so I'm now, it's coming down to the left. So I'm pushing and with my left, as hard as I can, I'm pulling with my right to try and straighten it out.

Well, those weights slide off, and I fling that fucking bar right into the mirror. Oh, go see the mirror. Right into the fucking mirror, bro. There was like three hot chicks and a full jam, right? No way, it shatters the mirror. Wow. Flip the bar into the mirror. That's why you

Bad luck for break shit everywhere glasses everywhere shut the fuck bro I I must have I mean I want to start crying broke everything. I look around everybody staring at me. I got up And walked out got on my fucking bike road home and I signed up a 24-feet.ness. Yeah God on my fucking bike, rode home, and I signed up a 24-feet. Yeah, never went back. I don't. Oh, what gym was that? Why? Why am I C.A.? Oh, it was why I'm C.A.

They're gonna make, they're gonna send me a bill now. That's the mother fucker. Oh, that's the guy. Bro, let's get him. Bro, it was the most embarrassing thing. I mean, the only thing that would have been a more embarrassing is how to shit my pants in the middle of the gym. No, yeah, that probably takes that.

Takes the can. Takes the can. I'm not gonna be able to trump that. I do, I only can think of one where I felt really embarrassed. I mean, I've had a plenty of times where I'm trying to get a weight up, it doesn't get up. But then I get it on the safeties. You know what I'm saying?

I get it on there, then I have to slide my neck out. I've done that before, you're benching. Oh shit, dude, it's always benching. Yeah, it is, because you're real. Right, I've failed there, but I mean, I get it on the little thing and then I get to slide my body out, right? I have not ever dropped it on my chest

or dumped the weight on there. But what I have done, I did do this one time, and this was, I by far the only time that I ever remember, like looking up and being like red faced and like I felt like everybody was staring at me, right? Was during our little era of functional training. Oh, no. Yeah, with stability balls and doing all that crazy shit.

Yes. And I'm doing kneeling on the stability ball, doing tricep push downs on the... Which in itself is embarrassing enough as it is, right? Which story is over. Yeah, story is over right there. stories over. No, no, no. Story is over right there. I'm an idiot for doing that period.

I didn't have YouTube back then. And I'm getting the push downs and just enough to make me struggle and to be trying to force that last rep out. And that was enough for me to my need to slide out from underneath me. And the ball just went shooting across the room and I barrel rolled and fell on my head right in front of the cable. So

I wasn't hurt too bad. But boy, I mean, the way the ball went flying across the room and I was laying on my fucking neck, it was pretty embarrassing. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I did, I don't really remember one in the gym but I remember when I was working out with the football team and we were doing sprints in the gym and This is the team workout and everybody's there all the coaches are there and this is like first thing in the morning and We weren't allowed to drink or do anything like that like during the season like we had this like packed like everybody It was like not doing it. And I didn't.

So anyway, I was like running and doing the sprints and everything. It was like just the first lap. Like we took the first lap running around and I had taken a multivitamin on an empty stomach and had water and I was like, just jogging. We even got to sprints yet. I'm jogging around the, and I get to like the coaches and like all of a sudden it just fucking hit me.

And I was just like doubled over and was like, oh, and I tried to stop it with my hand. And I just chuked through your fingers. Through my fingers onto a coach. Oh, like all over him just like painted him. And you just took through your fingers. You just took through my fingers onto a coach. No! Ah! Like all over him just like painted him. Oh, yeah. And then on the wall and on the door.

And then I was just like, oh my god, I was so sick. And then I was like, felt instantly better. And I was just like, ah. Whew. I've been in there all good. And then they all thought like I was like super hungover and everything. And I was like, no, I'm good. And I was like super hungover and everything and I was like no good

I was like leading the sprints and everything the rest of the time Yeah, I felt bad sorry coach. How about how about fails you've seen in the gym? I remember so the Tony go well. I've seen it. We've seen come on. We can talk all day on that No, I got one. I got a good one. I was so the 24 fitness and Sunnyvale The if you guys have been in the one in Sunnyvale, I'm free in my boulevard. Yeah. Okay, the pool, you've seen the pool area, right? So you walk in the front, you can go through another door and there's the pool area, and then the locker room connects to it, right?

So I'm giving a tour of the club, and I had a family of four, and they were Japanese, and I'll tell you why that's important. Say what you're going to say, racist, whatever. Japanese families will come in and they would always buy fucking huge, massive memberships. I don't know if it's true or not, but they would come in. So I'm like, I'm gonna tour you guys. I'm gonna give you the bomb ass tour.

I don't know that that's a negative thing. They just would. I think there was a large Japanese culture up there and when they would come in, they'd speak English kind of broken. I knew we're gonna get $3,000 deal, right? I love you. So I'm giving him the tour and the fucking highlights

always the pool because they're super interested in the pool. We want to see the pool. We want to see, this is perfect. And they got their kids with them, right? So they got like an eight year old and like a six year old little kid. And I'm like, I'm loving them. They're great people.

We're having a great time. Do the whole tour. I'm ending the tour on the frickin high note, which is the pool. We walk into the pool area and I'm giving them a tour tour. And they're like, oh, it's a nice family gym. I said, note, which is the pool. We walk into the pool area, and I'm giving them a tour, and they're like, oh, it's a nice family gym. I said, yes, it is. I said, you know, your kids aren't gonna be able to use

the pool, but until they get older, but it's fantastic. And the wife is all, oh, you know, she's all embarrassed and whatever. And we're walking through, and the fucking locker room connects to the pool area, right? This old fucker, I guess he took a wrong turn. He just walks out naked. He mentally, he mentally, the shower area is going to the locker. Oh, that's so, he just walks out naked. He mentally, he mentally the show and go into the locker.

Oh, that's so great. He walks out and he's like, and he's not like regular old, he's like old, bro. So he walks out and he's confused, he's confused for a good, it was a good five seconds. He walks out and he's standing there looking around. Like what the fuck? I thought there was urinals right here. His old balls, everything to hang in there. He's just big old gray bush. And I mean, I remember exactly what you look at. Oh, I'm so glad you shared this to our

abdur. I guess he walks out and he's just standing there. He's looking around and then the people are like, oh, and I didn't see him because I was looking the other direction. I was trying to point to the fucking to the sauna. Oh, so are I in my shirt? And the wife's like, oh, oh, my God. And I look over and I'm like, oh, shit. So I kind of turn around. I try to make a joke about it. And I'm like, oh my god. And I look over and I'm like, oh shit, it's like kind of turn around. I try to make a joke about it. And I'm like, oh, he took a wrong turn or whatever.

And meanwhile, the dude's still standing there. Then he fucking goes in the locker room. Stereo good kids. Needless to say, they enrolled. They still got the membership. Yeah, they still got the, and I'm wondering if that maybe closed them. Maybe they were winter that weird stuff.

They're like, peace to your clothes. Maybe they're like, oh, old naked balls. You immediately turned around and I'm like, oh, that's where the blow dryer mission is. Well, my other option, because I had two options. One option was to make a joke about it. The other option was just to get naked and make it look like it's normal.

Okay, it's naked time. Everybody naked. This is what we do here in Vladivostia. I'm glad I went with the first one. I really liked this place. Yeah. So next one. Sadatch.

How do you maintain muscle on an extended break? So without working out. Without working out, I think he's going into surgery. Oh, that sounds okay. Here's the deal, mind muscle. Here's the deal, flexing your muscles, while you're in bed, might help using stem, electronic stem. That's when you go to physical therapist

and they put the pads on you, and it makes your muscle flex. You can actually buy one pretty cheap on Amazon, I help using stem, electronic stem. That's when you go to physical therapists and they put the pads on you. And it makes your muscle flex. You can actually buy one pretty cheap on Amazon. But I hate to say this. It's gonna help a little bit but not much. The body adapts very, very, very rapidly in the opposite direction of fitness.

Like if I work out, I can work my ass off and get really fucking fit. They say three days, three days after full muscle recovery, at your feet already starts to set it. Dude, I could get really fit. And I could take the most fit Olympic athlete and make him bed ridden for two weeks and he is gonna lose all the strength of muscle. This is why old people, you see the decline happens so rapid.

Correct. Because they just decided that they're, well, I'm not going to move. I'm just going to keep sitting. You know, I'm going to keep watching TV and then I'm going to slowly hunch over and then, oh my God, next thing you know, you're body is like, you have no bone density. You have very little circulation. You know, your body's going to be like, well, we don't need to do that. We don't need to do that.

Even astronauts that go into space, they are required to exercise like so many times a day, and they still come down with bone loss and muscle loss because of the lack of gravity. I mean, you lay in bed and you don't move, that's the same thing, if that's worse, that's worse than that. So it's gonna be tough, but you're gonna have to move as much as positive, right now, you know, doctors and hospitals now really make you get up

and move a lot more than before, right? As before, they were kind of like, oh, you know, lay down and rest, now they're like, no, you gotta, doctors and hospitals now really make you get up and move a lot more than before, whereas before they were kind of like, oh, you know, lay down and rest. Now they're like, no, you got to get up and move. Yeah. It makes a huge difference in recovery. Yeah, you got to recover a lot faster. Huge difference. So I would say, you know, flex your muscles while you're in bed, lift your leg up if you can.

Nutritionally, keep your protein intake up. That's important. Eat healthy. Yeah, still maintain good health with your diet. Because if you're not moving, you're not stimulating and you're under eating on your protein intake, I mean, you're really speeding it up. Definitely. Get sunshine. That's a big one. Sunshine makes a huge

difference because of the vitamin D production and some of the stuff that some other stuff that isn't fully understood and how you know, how it interacts with the body. But you know, it's funny back in the day, when people were sick, doctors would recommend that you go out and get some sun. And then that's stopped for a school. They would say that all the time. Like we got to, that was the reasoning behind like the recess is like,

you know, get out the sun, get outside. Correct. And now they're finding that that was very, very good advice, getting sunshine because of the, you know, the production of, you know, vitamin D and other things really helps with with health and then, of course, muscle and bone. Cholesterol, here's another one. You want good vitamin D production,

you got to have good cholesterol intake because that helps produce it and that interacts with the sun as well. But I don't know, man, other than that, that's kind of a tough one. I'd say build as much muscle as you can. It's back when your body's done. Yeah, build as much as you can before going into it. Right, going into a little bit of a tough one. I'd say build as much muscle as you can. It's back when your body's done. Yeah, build as much as you can before going into it.

Right, going into a little bit of a bulk or whatever if you can. I'm saying put some, put a little bit of extra mass on there so your body can afford to lose a little. It's funny too. It's like if you're super, super lean, you're actually fucked if you ever get really sick. Oh yeah.

You know I'm saying? Yeah. You put yourself in a pretty bad situation because you don't have any reserves. You just depleted. Yeah, so if we were stuck on an island, yeah, you'd definitely eat me. I would, yeah, just be honest.

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