Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 2343: Sprinting for Fat Loss, the Benefits of Creatine for Women, Undereating & Joint Health & More

Episode Date: May 24, 2024

In this episode of Quah (Q & A), Sal, Adam & Justin answer four Pump Head questions drawn from last Sunday’s Quah post on the @mindpumpmedia Instagram page.  Mind Pump Fit Tip: Don’t have weak ass feet! (2:18) Our dependence on electronics and the guys’ love of old cars. (17:29) Not so much fun. (25:24) The one-time Sal got mistaken for an actor. (33:04) Justin’s marathon dental appointment. (34:07) Walkie-talkies for the apocalypse. (37:40) Interesting statistics on margarine. (39:08) The fascinating science of CRISPR technology. (41:56) Pro/con life support? (44:07) The best salesperson for Entera Skincare. (50:30) What’s happening in Canada?! (52:46) Shout out to MAPS Muscle Mommy! (55:22) #Quah question #1 - Is interval sprinting good for fat loss? If so, how much time sprinting vs walking and for how long? (56:36) #Quah question #2 - Any benefit to using the power plate machine for mobility work vs regular stretches? (1:01:31) #Quah question #3 - Do you recommend creatine for women? I heard that creatine is hard on the digestive system. (1:07:40) #Quah question #4 - Does undereating affect joint health or is that more of a vitamin thing? (1:10:59) Related Links/Products Mentioned See and hang out with Mind Pump, LIVE! Saturday, June 15 · 1pm PDT Bellagio Las Vegas. Click the link here for more details. Visit Organifi for the exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Promo code MINDPUMP at checkout for 20% off** Visit Entera Skincare for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! ** Promo code MPM at checkout for 10% off their order or 10% off their first month of a subscribe-and-save. ** Special Launch Promotion: MAPS Muscle Mommy ** Code MM80 at checkout for $80 off. Includes: Bonus #1- Mike Matthew’s THINNER LEANER STRONGER. BONUS #2-Mike Matthew’s THE LITTLE BLACK BOOK OF WORKOUT MOTIVATION. Ends Sunday, May 26th. ** Mind Pump #2042: The Essential Habits You Need To Move Freely & Live Fully With Kelly & Juliet Starrett Born to Run - Secrets of the Tarahumara - Runner's World The giant solar storm is having measurable effects on Earth : NPR Funtropolous | Family Fun Center, Play Structure, Arcade Visit Brain.fm for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners. ** Get 30 days of free access to science-backed music. ** CRISPR restores some vision to blind patients in clinical trial Study reveals patients with brain injuries who died after withdrawal of life support may have recovered ‘Polio Paul,’ who spent most of the past 70 years in an iron lung, dies at 78 Canada's new Online Harms Act (C-63): what you need to know Visit Butcher Box for this month’s exclusive Mind Pump offer!  ** Free for a Year offer: Choose salmon, chicken breast, or steak tips FREE in every order for a year, plus get $20 off your first order! ** Cardio Sucks for Fat Loss – Mind Pump Blog Visit Joovv for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! ** Code MINDPUMP to get $50 off your first purchase. ** Creatine benefits, dosage, and side effects - Examine Mind Pump Podcast – YouTube Mind Pump Free Resources People Mentioned Justin Brink DC (@dr.justinbrink) Instagram  

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book and the little black book of workout motivation plus of course the program plus of course Like I said 80 off. So if you're interested go to mapsmusclemommy.com And then use the code MM80 for the discount and the free giveaways. All right back to the show Here's something that took me forever to learn oftentimes hip pain knee pain back pain Is coming from your feet. That's right. Oftentimes our feet are weak, unstable, they're not strong. We wear shoes all day long so the muscles are totally underdeveloped. Then when we squat, deadlift, overhead press, whatever, our feet collapse, our ankles turn and

the rest of our body has to compensate. Believe it or not, most of you probably suffer from weak feet. How do you strengthen this? How do you work on this? Start by walking barefoot and do it intentionally focus on every piece of your foot touching the floor strengthen the sole of your foot Those are muscles just like all of the muscles if they're underdeveloped you will suffer. We cast feet this one took us We learned this way as podcasters. Yeah. Yeah, it's so funny that we just like blow right past this as fitness trainers and people in the industry. It's like that's literally what's connecting you to the ground and where you're driving all your force through.

None of the courses, none of the courses that I took had zero, nothing on that. No. Yeah, they didn't put any emphasis on your feet at all. It's weird because, like we all take it for granted or we overlook it because we always wear shoes, but I've used this example before, right? If you wore gloves for 90% of the day, like how sensitive or insensitive or distorted would the feelings in your hands be? What would the skin be like?

What would the muscles be like if you had gloves that kept your fingers together like this and you just barely moved them? Soft pillows. Just pssst. Yeah. It would change. It would change every time. Horrible.

What kind of gloves are you wearing? I wear mittens, dude. Yeah. But I mean, it would cause atrophy and weakness. And when you know, when we learned this years ago, it was, it must have been at least seven years ago where we had Dr. Brink do an assessment and all of a sudden terrible, terribly weak feet. I went online and I looked up, um, hunter gatherer feet,

because they walk around barefoot, their feet look very different from ours. They're like thick muscular feet. The toes were spread out. Like, like they look like they climb trees. They're like thick, muscular feet, the toes were spread out like. They look like they climb trees. Like they could do stuff with them. Whereas with my feet, if I take my shoes and socks off

and I walk on the street, like, I'll, I'll, I'll. I'm always reminded too, when you see somebody who doesn't have arms, like what they can do and how they can function and like replace a lot of the gripping and and dexterity that you can achieve with your feet. It's mind blowing, but we don't focus on that or develop that in any sense. No, no.

You know what this makes me think about is what are we doing right now? Evolutionary that's going to haunt us the same way in the a hundred years, right? Cause it's so crazy that we just, because we were born into that everybody puts shoes on babies and then you're right. Like it just 200 years ago, it wasn't like that. So, you know, it's like, so for most of human history, we didn't have these big, thick sold shoes and you most certainly didn't throw it on

baby's feet right away. I mean, and then the next evolution that was like maybe some leather, like a thin sandal. Yeah was like maybe some leather, like a thin piece. A sandal. Yeah, like a sandal, like the real thin, so you're damn near close to the ground. So in just short amount of time, we've decided that that's completely normal and okay,

and ignored any of the potential side effects of that. And so what are we doing right now that's gonna be the same thing? What I think it is, is the phones and the iPads. I think like, is it called nearsightedness or farsightedness? Where basically you don't have the ability anymore to see far away, a great distance because that's nearsighted. Yeah.

We don't, we don't express that anymore. Uh, it's, it's not, um, something that's part of everyday experience as much as it used to be. Well, I have something, is sitting in chairs. In societies where they don't use chairs, people can squat down and sit in a squat well into old age, like up until, if you go to certain areas in Japan, the Middle East,

I forget where else, but we're- Like India too, don't they have where you squat on potties and stuff like that? Yeah, we're like, some houses in Japan, I think in Okinawa in particular, if I'm not mistaken, maybe Doug can correct me, there's, houses don't even have chairs, a lot of them, and it's sitting on the floor,

and people in their 80s and 90s, and they get down on the floor and get back up, and they can squat and sit and squat. The average adult, we train clients, the average adult American can't squat parallel, let alone sit in a squat. No, there's like a test in that they can determine like what age or how many years longer you'll live

just by the ability to get up off the ground. I forgot what it was. It's a strong predictor of all-cause mortality. Yeah. Can you get up or down off the floor without I forgot what it was. It's a strong predictor of all-cause mortality. Yeah. Can you get up or down off the floor without grabbing on to anything? Which is crazy, because to your point, there's cultures that they've just kept it that way forever.

It's still normal to have to get down and get up to go sit at a table. But we've just decided that it would be, yeah, sure. So that's another good example. So I agree, I think chairs, I think the, and I think what we're seeing with the, I think chairs is longer, right? So I think we're, we see that already. I think the phone and the tablet thing, uh, we haven't even started to see that. I mean, we have little bits of it and you see kids are having low back pain and things like that. Just the, their heads

are all rounded forward. You see- Accelerating that shrimp posture. Yes. Oh yeah. You see it everywhere. No, it's terrible. I mean, if you look at like the anatomy of the bottom of your foot, maybe Doug can pull this up. It's covered. Is it, your bottom of your foot is muscular. It's, there's tons of muscles on the bottom of the foot.

There's more nerve endings in the bottom of your feet than anywhere else. Yeah. And so it's, and what happens also, those nerve endings connect to parts of your brain, they're underdeveloped because they're not constantly touching and, you know, working on different textures and whatever. They're always in your socks and in your shoes. The muscles become so atrophied that you have flat foot, people's feet roll in or out, and you just lose.

So, it's like you're walking on this unstable bottom part of your leg. What happens is the rest of the body has to compensate. So when I was a trainer and someone's knee hurt, I would always look at their hips. I always thought it was her hips. I was the first place I looked. Never looked at their feet and ankles. I was never taught to.

And what's interesting is I remember now, looking back, there was a lot of clients I had where I struggled to figure out their knee pain and I would often solve it. But what I think the way I solved it was is I just got really good at getting them to overcompensate with their hips when the problem was down at their feet and their ankles. Cause if I had them take their shoes and socks off, you know, when we met with Dr.

Brink, you know, I, I, now I walk around the house barefoot. I try and walk around outside barefoot when I'm home and I pay attention to how my foot strikes the floor. Um, I look at like, if I walk in water and then walk on the concrete to see what kind of footprint I lead, I leave, my foot used to be very flat. Now it's still relatively flat, but it's a lot better because I've done exercises like short foot. And when I walk, I'm more aware.

Is that one tough for you too? Yeah. Yeah. You know what? I wonder if, if running and training and cleats are hard. Yeah. Well, yeah. And I, I over the years of being smashed, I used to think that having really tight lace shoes and cleats was like, it made me feel like more supported and it really just smashed my feet and like my toes accelerated to where they're like hammered down and underneath.

And so my toenails actually grow underneath my toes. You got like LeBron James feet? Dude they're just like yeah look at athletes feet. Have you ever seen LeBron's feet? Bro they're terrible. And a lot of that is like the way that you're constantly gripping and you're just well I'm always when you're that big when you're like these basketball players are so big yeah and they're kids I what's that shoe they were 15 16 or whatever and they start wearing these massive sizes when they're like teenagers Yeah, that's even their parents can't find shoes that fit them Yeah, so yeah, but that's and so it ends up happening is it changes how you move what you feel and so, you know The next question people typically ask is okay. Should I start working out barefoot?

And so, you know, the next question people typically ask is, okay, should I start working out barefoot? You can, however. Just slowly get yourself. Yes, because the weakest link in the lift is what determines how much weight you can use. So in other words, if I'm squatting and my low back is the weak link, then my low back will dictate how much weight I can use. For many people, if they go from wearing squat shoes, for example, to going

barefoot, the weak link becomes their feet. So what happens is the weight on the bar changes now. Now you have to go way lighter, even though everything else feels okay, because you need to be able to maintain with your feet. Otherwise it's the feet collapse or whatever. Now everything becomes- You don't realize that slight elevation that's really helping provide that extra bit of ankle support and stability. And so now you go straight to barefoot and there's more chance that you're not going to be able to stabilize. That's when I first got a clue that it made a big

difference is the first time I put on squat shoes, which was, I was an adult. I was in my early thirties. And at that point I'd been squatting for a while. One of my trainers that worked in my studio, you squat shoes, they did Olympic lifting and they said, oh, if you wear squat shoes, you'll be able to lift more. And of course, you know, that's like, I'm sold.

Right. So bought some squat shoes and I added, I think immediately 15 pounds of the bar. And then I remember being like, why am I able to add more weight to the bar? And that was by wearing different shoes. And that was a clue. I figured that out.

Now I didn't look any deeper into it because I was excited I could lift more weight on the bar because my ego is, you know, not saying it's much better now, but it's a little better than it was back then. But that was a clue, like, oh, I put these shoes on, I can squat more? Like, what the heck is going on?

Yeah, it's funny to me when I look back now, the fact that I didn't make that connection yet after Brink did that assessment with me, like how obvious it was to me. It was like, oh my God, this is like, it's so, of course. What was the one that you had, he had to do toe piano where you had to do this with your feet, and like, it was like they're paralyzed.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Remember that? Yeah, yeah, I couldn't, I was, I definitely. Was one side worse than the other? Yeah, I have a little bit, I had, on the left side, I have a little bit more of an external rotation on the left side and a harder, a worse connection. I mean, I've worked really hard on it for a couple years now.

Big difference. Yeah, big difference. Yeah, I've worked really hard on it. Running shoes, the whole running shoe market is based off of people's poor strength and mobility in their feet and ankle. Oh yeah, big old foamy, squishy, propel you forward.

Or shoes specifically designed, so you do, if you go to a good running store, they'll have people watch you run, and it'll be like, oh, you overpronate, you over-supinate, you strike here with your heel, or whatever, and it'll give you a shoe, and the shoe is designed to- To crutch it.

Yes, to crutch it. It's like the whole shoe market is like that, which is crazy. I mean, remember, I mean, jeez, one of the most famous brands ever, Dr. Scholl's. I mean, that still exists, yeah, Doug? Yeah. Like that's a, and that's brand was made.

Insole's are a huge business, yeah. Huge business, instead of, which that's, it's crazy to me, and I knew that, I knew about Dr. Scholl's forever, but never knew to fix that or to work on that with a client. Just, oh yeah, you know, my feet are all messed up, therefore I gotta wear these special soles. Was there a documentary, I think we all saw it, where it was based off that book on how

somebody went and studied barefoot running and noticed how the foot struck the floor differently when people were barefoot versus when they wore shoes. Because he went, I don't remember the guy's name. He went to like Kenya and showed how they were running. Born he went, I don't remember the guy's name. Like Kenya, he went to like Kenya and showed like how they were running. Born to run, I think. Maybe he was born to run.

And there was also like an area in Mexico where people wear like a thin sole sandal and then run. You see a sandal as a strap. Yeah, and then what he noticed was people who've been running their whole lives barefoot, the forefoot strikes the ground before the heel. Because the whole foot and ankle is a massive shock absorber.

But because we wear shoes in Western societies, we learned to strike heel first, which means you've taken out all that shock absorber of the foot and ankle. So then you've got these shoes now with these huge pads to try to compensate. And he filmed these barefoot runners running. And I mean, there was this, I don't remember

the place in Mexico, maybe you can find it, Doug. Well, like it was like a running, running town in Mexico, maybe look that up. But there were, there were this, I don't remember the place in Mexico, maybe you can find it, Doug. Well, it was like a running town in Mexico, maybe look that up, but there were men in their 70s and 80s who were running routinely 10, 15 miles a day, no back pain, no knee pain, nothing. And he was filming how they were striking. I feel like it was more vertical too, like their gait was a little bit different

as they ran in comparison to, obviously, because of the shoe factor with that as well. You think they'd be more vertical? I think they'd be more forward. No, I don't know. I'm pretty sure it was like, it was more central. Oh, interesting. To their body. Yeah. I mean, what else? Okay. So, uh, we agreed this, the sitting,

we agree the iPad and iPhones, anything else that we're doing to ourselves currently right now that, that you would probably. I mean, I've said this before, but it was, it, I think the ability to problem solve, like a computational ability is like being eliminated based off of just like, you know, if you, you have something replacing, um, your how to get around, you know, like having, having navigation there and you're reliant on that. Same thing with Google, same thing with AI, same

thing with all these, like, you're outsourcing all of the problem solving to electronics now. And you, and you end up losing the skill. You're losing the skill. By the way, the runners in Mexico were the Tarahumara. What is that? Tarahumara.

Yeah, something to that effect. So we've already done that, by the way, what you're saying, Justin, we have an example of that. Do you guys know what my phone number is? Yeah, I know. No, do you know anybody's phone number? So whatever, I used, as a kid, I remember. I only know Katrina's,

because midway through our relationship, she got so mad that I didn't know. You didn't know it? Yeah, she's like, what if we're in an emergency and you have to give someone my phone number and he can't call me? I'm like, oh God, okay. So all of us probably knew a good 30 phone numbers by heart.

Yeah, I still actually remember my friends in junior highs, phone numbers, their home phones. I remember all my aunts and my parents. All the way back to my buddy's elementary school in fourth grade, I can't even tell you what his phone number was. Isn't that crazy? I don't know, I text you guys all, I can't even tell you what his phone number was. Isn't that crazy? I don't know, I text you guys all the time.

I have no idea what your phone number is. If I saw your number pop up without your name, I wouldn't answer the phone, because I didn't know. Because I don't remember. Does it have the avatar of you there? Yeah, I think, so remembering things is a big one, I agree with you. And what's interesting, you know,

why I like you bringing that one up is because that one's harder to see what are the potential detriments. Obviously, you're terrible at that, but if it doesn't really necessarily hurt you and will only get better with technology and AI, is that necessary? So what are the unintended consequences of that is, I guess, a better way to ask. That's a good question. I don't think we know. I know, right? I don't think we know what that means.

That's what worries me though is the unknown. Yeah. That's why it's a good one you brought up. I'm like, yeah, that's interesting. Because my instinct is, well, who cares? Yeah, we'll innovate something else. Yeah, because now we have Google, and then soon we're going to have AI.

And then soon you're probably going to have it implanted in your brain. So who cares? You're going to be better faster anyway. So what does it matter? And I don't see any solar flares happening or anything where everything goes down and you can't have that.

That's not true. But there was recently a geo, what's it called, a geomagnetic storm that just happened? Yeah. That was like stressing satellites and shit. Did you hear about this? No, I didn't. Yeah, look this up, Doug.

This is why they had the- I don't want to subscribe to the nerd channels that you guys do. No, come on. Is that nerdism? This is about the Northern Lights connection? Yes, yes. Yeah, so in fact, Elon Musk posted on his ex-account that the satellites that he had were being stressed,

but they were able to survive the geomagnetic storm that was happening. In other words, if it gets bad enough, so imagine that. Imagine if for three days electronics didn't work. Just three days. What would you call it? You wouldn't call it anything. I mean, so when I moved this last move that we did, we didn't have internet for like two weeks

and it was very enlightening to me how much I've become dependent on Wi-Fi. And that was pretty interesting to see like how much our lives are shaped. Yeah. Like, you know, I don't think I've ever had a move like that where I was like, Oh my God, this is a problem. Like we can't connect to the internet. I can't work from home. We can't watch any of our shows. Yeah. It was, it was, and of course for a day or two, whatever, but you know, two

weeks, two weeks of disrupting your, the normalcy of your life and how much we've become dependent on that as a big deal. Really interesting how much that, uh, that bothered me. It's, it's interesting. People, we used to have bigger disruptions back in the day. Um, when it wasn't 1972, Doug, when they had the oil embargo and you had to. Oh, wait in line to get gas and you can only get on your odd day license plates and even day license plates.

So if it wasn't your day, you ain't getting gas. People had to wait. Yeah. Imagine disruption. I do remember that. Yeah. Yeah, I'm sure you do. You were a little boy sitting in the Ford Maverick.

Were you really waiting for gasoline? Just burning gasoline to get gas. Yeah. Oh my God. During war. We know it's even crazier though, even during that crazy time, it was still cheaper than what it is today. Oh, way cheaper.

Yeah. I mean, if you factor in inflation, maybe not. Yeah. Cause it was, what was it? It was like three bucks or something like that, which was crazy back then. I think. Oh no, I don't think it went that high back then. I can find the price. No, it was, it was, bro, it was high during that time. During that time it was high. Yeah. Maybe it wasn't, maybe it wasn't $3, but it was not like gas. I remember my, my earliest memory of pumping gas was 97 cents. I remember that. I remember nine, nine. I used to, I had, I had my Acura Integra, which was like, dude, it was like a, uh, it was 13 gallons at 97 cents.

So what does that cost me? Like, what does that like $11 or $9? I remember 20 bucks was plenty. Oh, yeah 20 You're good. Yeah went far So get this the average US retail price of a gallon of regular gasoline rose 43% from 38.5 cents Wow, so didn't you may have 1973 to 55.1 cents? So didn't even go over a dollar. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. Wow. So it didn't even go over a dollar. In May of 1973 to 55.1 cents. So it didn't even go over a dollar. No.

Wow. Wow. Yeah. Yeah, you know, and you know what's funny? That right there, so if you look at the auto industry, the American, especially the American auto industry. Does gas store really, sorry, does gas store for a really long time?

No. You can't, I don't know. No, I think you have to put some type of additives in it. You're gonna store it for a long time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So that, you know, it's it, if you're gonna store it for a long time. So that, it's interesting, because if you look at American cars, they were like muscle cars, power, speed,

and then gas issues started happening, and then they became just weak, shit-ass cars. You know what I mean? Yeah, four bangers. Yeah, because of the oil embargoes, I think. I'm so not a fan of that. I know, I know. It's sad.

Like some of the coolest looking cars of the mid-70s, you know the car smoking the Bandit? That was a dog. It was so slow. Because it had so much stuff on it to prevent it from burning gas or oil or whatever. It's sad, I mean, I don't know. I know there's some people that love

the electric car movement, some of that, but I'm so not a fan. I'm so not a fan of that. We're old guys. Are we? I don't know. I feel like there's some young guys that can appreciate too, like just a gas powered engine. There's the sound, the roar, the rumble, the feel, the. It's cause it meant freedom for us. I think a lot more. I think there's just not that sense of, there's not that connection as much. I feel, I mean, some kids now I think are coming back to that a bit of like, yeah, I want to get my license and I, you know,

get a car and have some freedom, but I don't know, man. I feel like it's not as much of a thing. I mean, I've said the sound though, it's the sound. That was all part of the experience. You know what's weird though? It's more than that though, Sal, because they've done even these, some of these dumb cars have like the artificial sound

that they pump through the speakers. Yeah, but that's not real sound. That's why people know. Yeah, I mean, okay, then you you're because it's still sound. It's just you're you know It's like there's something about there's something visceral about feeling the rumble and hearing it and it matching Versus I wonder if like I've been in a I've been in a Tesla Plaid before which is extremely fast super fast super fast And there is a bit of it's exhilarating for a moment, you know, to be, but it's like, yeah, it's just not, doesn't sound like that. It sounds like a laser. Yeah. It sounds like a fart. It's, it's, uh, I think cause we're just old guys. I wonder if the...

You think it's an old guy? I think so. Well, I want to hear from the young guy. I feel like there's young guys that appreciate the still this, that, that sound. I think that because they'll always be like, Oh, that's old school. But like, do you think like wagon owners and horse racers were like, stupid, your car doesn't like sound like a horse. It doesn't like...

Doesn't neigh, doesn't fart. There had to be so many at one time who made a car sound like that. That was like, we should make it sound like a horse. People are going to like it way more. There's a hundred horsepower. I want to hear it. You know, Hey, is that okay? So you know, that's the origin, right?

Obviously of horsepower is, do you have you ever? It's not a real horsepower. No, I think it is. I think it's pretty, so originally when they came up with the horsepower was like, it was equivalent to 10 horses or 50 horses or a hundred horses. The same power that a horse could pull with, torque and power wise, one horse is multiplied by that. That's how you get horsepower.

I don't think one horsepower equals the power of one horse. I looked this up once. I think it equals something else. That is about to pull it up here. Yeah, yeah, it's fact checking here. It's multiplied by that. That's how you get horsepower. I don't think one horsepower equals the power of one horse. I looked this up once. I think it equals something else. Doug's about to pull it up here. Yeah, yeah, let's fact check here. It's something like that. No. Yeah, I'm pretty sure.

And like what kind of horse? A big horse? Stupid. Team adopted the late Institute of Cave. What does the Institute of Cave say? The output of steam engines with the power of draft horses. It was later expanded to include the output power of other types of piston engine.

That doesn't say anything though. But look right there, horsepower up in the top right hand corner. What is that? This is what you do. Type in is one horsepower equal to the power of one horse. How about that? That's a bunch of math, Doug.

We don't know what that is. That's not so. Delta times time equals one per second. Yeah, I don't even know what you're saying. This is basically just showing that horsepower is used as a metric to measure the physics of whatever's going on. Yeah, well, we know that.

OK, so but I want to know how equivalent it is. I think it's obviously it's not precise, Sal. You have a Clydesdale. You have a quarter. You have, say, you have 1,000 different types of breeds of horses that are all different in power. But I think it's generally accurate, I think. I don't know.

I don't know. I looked it up once. Let's see. Doug's on it. Yeah, I think so. It's a misconception that one horsepower is equal to peak power production of a horse, which is capable of a maximum of around 14.9 horsepower. So a single horse can do 14.9 up to 14.9 horsepower.

A human being is capable of approximately five horsepower. Oh, wow. What? Really? Yeah. I've got five horsepower? Five? We got five. Potentially. Justin's got like seven.

At least. Seven. Clydesdales, dude. Yeah, he is like a Clydesdale, dude. He's got the... That's why we do walks. Yeah. I started making that sound behind him.

Okay. Dude, I gotta tell you guys, I went to this place. Should I say the name? I'm gonna talk shit about a local place. Should I say the name or should I hire you? Is it a local place? Well, do they do bad service? Fuck them. Say something. I shouldn't ask you. You're just mean.

I'm gonna call the name something else, but people who live around. Hey, we give shout outs to people all the time that do good business and do good solid. Shout out for your terrible service. So we were at home with the kids Saturday and we were at a restaurant and we were at a restaurant and we were at a restaurant and we were at a restaurant and we were at a restaurant Hey, we give shout outs to people all the time that do good business and do good solid. So you should stay on out. Shout out for your terrible service. So we were at home with the kids Saturday and my wife goes, oh, I found this place online. Looks awesome. I look at the pictures.

I'm just gonna call it Funland. That's what I'm gonna call it, okay? And we look. Is it right with that? It's no, no, no, no. Fun is in the name. That's all I'm saying. Okay, okay. So I look at the pictures, I'm like, I've never heard of this place., no, it's, fun is in the name. That's all I'm saying. Okay, okay.

So I look at the pictures, I'm like, I've never heard of this place. This looks amazing. Like, what is this? It sounds fun, obviously. It looks cool. It's like indoor, like things you can climb, and like there's apparatus you can jump over.

Is this local? Yeah, bro, it's local. Okay, okay. There's like climbing walls and balls you can jump in. I mean, it looks amazing. Video games, arcade. Okay. This place looks crazy. I'm like, this place looks crazy. I'm like, let's go.

So we roll up and then we drive up and I'm like, the parking lot is kind of empty. Like are they closed? What's going on here? Like Eastside Town is in. You know what it looked like? What, what? It looked like, okay, you ever been to a,

remember Chuck E. Cheese? It's like the jungle. Oh yeah, yeah. You ever been to an old Chuck E. Cheese? Yeah, yeah. With the old animatronics? Yeah, yeah. Oh my old animatronics? Yeah. Oh my God.

Dude, they made like a whole video game out of that. Yes, dude. It smells like cigarettes. Yes, dude. Hey, we walk in. You know it's bad when you're at a kids place and it smells like an ashtray. There it is right there.

Look at the pictures. It looks amazing, right? Look at this, watch. It looks great. I'm like, this is my stuff. You know what? These are like the photos from the grand opening. Bro.

Yeah. So we walk in and it's huge. We walk in, there's one person working in there. That's it at the front desk. Really? Yeah, and i'm like, are you guys open? She's like, yeah, we're open. So i'm like, uh, okay So she checks us in and we go in there. There's no one in there Half the place is like dark because they don't have employees or something We start climbing through things and i'm like, this place looks kind of dirty. I don't know if I like this place or whatever. It smells like piss.

Bro, it smelled like feet, you know, like little kids feet, yeah. I'm like, oh, I don't know if I like this place, right? So we get out, we play little video games. I don't like this. A couple other people came in with their kids, right? So I'm walking through and I see kid barf all over the floor. I'm like, let's get the hell out of here. No, you the floor. I'm like, let's get the.

No you didn't. Yes I did bro. No. Yes. Wow. Yeah. Really. It looks fun if you look at the picture, it looks amazing.

It wants to be amazing. I feel like whoever made it put a lot of money into it and were like, this is gonna crush. So there's a franchise that we've been to that it's not this one, it's a different one, but it's very, very similar concept. I went for my buddy's, you had like a foam pit you could swing into and like.

Bro, look at that, tell me that doesn't look amazing. No, it looks just like this. I'm gonna take you guys there. And I actually think they're a brilliant, but you know what happens though? The Bay Area just gets overwhelmed. You get so many people in it and it gets just destroyed so fast.

And there's no traffic. Bro, there was no one in there. It was us and two other families. Well you know why? Because everybody came to it for the first three years, destroyed the shit out of it, and now everybody looks at it the same way you look at it. They're like, hell no, I'm going there.

It was gross. Is that a franchise, Doug? Is it a franchise? I don't have no idea. Yeah, no, bro. But there is one thing they had that was cool. Have you guys done those arcade punching games? Oh yeah, you did with me when I meet you

Yeah, you crushed it, but I beat my old score Justin you did I did I've used your technique I did and wowed a bunch of kids I was like dude, you know, it was carnival Sal dude, you know, we're 900. It's like a single location. Oh good Yeah, you got 950. Yeah, that's not bad It's like a downward hammer fist Yeah, you got 950. You got 950? Yeah. That's not bad, bro. What's the technique, Justin? It's like a downward hammer fist. No, no. It's like, I don't punch it.

It's like, just the physics of it. It's how I did it like this. You have to hit it on a downward trajectory, because if you hit it straight on, you're not going to get it as much acceleration. Listen, we went and did this in Austin. I was so mad about that. He couldn't figure it out why I was like crushing it.

Because I was hitting it way harder. Yeah couldn't figure it out why I was like crushing it. Because I was hitting it way harder. Yeah. Way harder. Come on. Way harder. Hey, he got physically angry. Like, he was quiet and wanted to talk to me.

So I'm like, I better tell him the secret. Otherwise, he's not going to talk to me. I'm glad you did. I hate these carnival tricks. These carnies always get me. He's mad right now. Yeah. Anyway, yeah, so it was great.

Was that last weekend? You guys were there? Saturday. He's mad right now. Yeah. Anyway, yeah, so it was good, bro. Was that last weekend? You guys were there? Saturday. Yeah, dude. Wow. Did you go as a family, or did you just take the kids? Us and the kids. Yeah.

And then we left, and we're like, let's get the hell out of here. And I'm like, my kid was all sad. So in a situation like that, who's quicker to be like, I'm out of here, you or Jessica? Well, I saw the barf. So I'm like, we need to go. Yeah, I was going to say, well, who's most likely to like, as soon as you walked in, one of you

was probably a little more skilled. Katrina and I are somewhere like that. I'm definitely the first one. Are you the first one? Yeah, I'm the first one. And the two of us, I'm like, Katrina would be more like, well, let's see what it's like. And I'd be like, nah, I like the vibe already.

I think me, right? Because she made the plan. So I walk in, I'm like, I don't know, honey. And so I think she wanted to stick with it. You know, like no no, this is you know I'm like, I don't know. Okay, she found it. So she wants to try yeah You can't say it's clean like, you know, you look at the like the like the climbing stuff I had bar for the floor as it You don't explain anymore

Hey, you know, that's the thing too. I used to be D And they give you socks you walk in there you take your shoes off and they give you special socks to work Which is just you know, that's the thing too. The whole place needs to be deloused. And they give you socks. You walk in there, you take your shoes off, and they give you special socks to wear. Which is just, you know, I don't know. I kept the socks. I should have bought them. They had like rubber things in the bottom. How much was it per kid? 40 bucks for the whole family.

That's not too bad. We spent approximately 15 minutes in there. It doesn't smell at all. It's as clean as the equivalent of bowling shoes. Hey, maybe that's their strategy to keep it not busy. People just go in. People pay, and then they go in, and they see something, and then they're out.

It's a bean switch. Is that what it is? OK, so that's how I found out about that other place, the one I told you, the water park one. Which, by the way, we were just somewhere. Where were we? It was when we were in Michigan, Doug. Remember, at the meeting

Ernie or someone brought up. Yeah, we got a you guys could come stay over here. We have one of those What was it called? What's the name? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah the wolf. Yeah, we got a wolf lodge over here I can treat us like yeah Katrina's like oh god. Don't sit down They're like what so he hates that play somebody because it was the same thing. It was just like run down overcrowded and just, yeah. Like you said, I think they just get overwhelmed and beat up. I mean, that's how I felt. I felt the same way. It was just like, you get that many kids in there.

Like, how do you keep it? Although, this is what I think Disneyland does a good job at, dude. Yeah. That's also why they charge $5 million to get in. How much is the ticket to Disneyland now? Dude, you've seen like the Great Americas and the Six Flags. but it's also where you can find $5 million to get in. How much is the ticket to Disneyland now? Honestly. You've seen the Great Americas and the Six Flags.

Dude, over time, just the amount of people coming in carving things and like spray painting and tagging. I went to Great America recently, and it doesn't feel safe. No, no it doesn't. I used to go there all the time when I was a kid. But you're right, Disneyland does it well, but Disneyland also charges in Armand Lake.

It's crazy. It's because you have a lot of kids in there. Anywhere you have a lot of kids, it's gonna be a lot of upkeep. Kids puke on stuff, they pee all over the place, they whatever. What is that right there? This is a pricing for Disney.

That looks cheaper than what it is. Yeah, it seems like it, doesn't it? It ain't no $100. It's 18 years ago. It's way more than that, Doug. What is that written? I don't know. 1985?

Yeah, maybe. At least now, too. I bought tickets recently. It's just a hell of an expense. Those are like tickets to the parking lot, Doug. Oh, OK. You might be right about that. That's not the main thing.

You're like, yep, you show up at the park. $145, you can come to the parking lot now. Hey, let me tell you guys, I got, so have you guys got recognized yet for not hosting the podcast, but for being on commercials for sponsors? Yeah, commercials. Yeah, dude.

Somebody actually asked me at the gym, hey, somebody stopped me, excuse me, and I'm like, oh, they listen to Mind Pump. What's going on, you listen to my show? They're like, no, they said, they said, are you like a, do you like commercials? Are you a model? Are you the organifying guy? He's like, I. They said, are you like a, do you like commercials? Are you a model?

Are you the Organifi guy? He's like, I saw you on Organifi. You were selling their supplements. You're the supplement guy? Yeah, no, no. I know they've been running that one a lot, so that was a first thought. They're doing the Shilajit and the Happy Drops,

I think, when we talk about them. They're running those two. I love that. We're out again, huh? Yeah. But I think it's the last Shilajit this morning, and then we've been out. We had more and you ate them all? I can't tell. I think that. We're out again, huh? Yeah. But I finished the last two Legit this morning, and then we've been out. We had more and you ate them all?

I can't tell. I think I liked the Happy Drops even more. You really liked the Happy Drops. They did. You noticed it, huh? Yeah. Doesn't seem to make you happy, though. What do you mean, man?

Not now, because I don't have them. I was definitely, like, super tired. And then pick me up. Leave him alone. Leave him alone. You know what's so funny? I don't know how much he told you about that, but I knew when I heard the seven hours of him doing that, I'm like, I told him this morning, I know exactly what went down. You rolled up to your dentist who does all his work anyways, hadn't seen him in a while and this is like, bro, you've got six cracked teeth. You got a root canal. You got to, we got like all these,

some of that. And he, I guarantee the guy goes, you know, well, we could take care of this and this right now. Uh, and Justin was like, can we just get it all done? Yeah. He's like talking about three different appointments. I'm like, bro, you have me right here. My face is numb. How long were you there for? Seven hours dog. No, no, no, no. Hold on a second. Seven hours. You were in a chair for seven hours?

Yeah. That is nuts. I was trying to tell you guys on text and then, oh. I thought you were exaggerating. I'm like, I didn't get paid, dude. I knew it. I knew it. That's exactly what we did.

I thought you were exaggerating. My face, I guarantee that Dennis was like, we could do this in three appointments. Just like, no, just get it all done. I'm fine. I could tough this out. Wait a minute. How do you do that?

How do you eat? What do you eat? I didn't eat, no. No, he gave me a little bit of this protein shake before I left so I could take some ibuprofen at least, which didn't do anything. I made it home, but I was like, and I was fine because it was still numb,

but I drove and then once I was fine because it was, it was still numb, but like I drove. And then once I got about like half an hour left, because it's, to me, it takes about an hour and 20 minutes to get there. A holster. So the last 30 minutes, dude, it was like, as all of it started to wear away. Please tell me two pictures. I was like, Oh, it all just kind of hit me at once. Like, like somebody literally was like, you know, I got, I got it in your mouth for seven hours?

It was jackhammering on top of me. Just. So seven hours in there and you're taking breaks? How do you, how does that work? I mean, I took like two P breaks and then just like right back at it. Cause they had to go and they're on the back, my back teeth. So I had like, I had two upper, two lower here, and then two on this side. So I'm just imagining how, how, um, awkward it is because you know, when you're getting work done by dentists, they talk to you, can we talk back? Yeah.

So for seven hours and he just ran out of shit. You just, I put, what was cool about it is that they let me wear some of their noise canceling headphones. Um, but I mean, I could still hear that the whole time. So I actually, and this isn't even, we didn't even have like a spot for brain FM, but I've totally put on some relaxed brain FM and was like trying hard. It worked for like, you know, maybe an hour after that. I was like, Oh, it's like a good brain. I need some more. No, okay. Yeah.

I had to tap for at least an hour of dentistry. Did you do laughing gas? No, he's done that for me before, which was rad, but he didn't bring it up and I forgot to ask. Oh my God. I've never done laughing gas, have you? Yeah, you have. Is that nitrous?

Everybody likes it, huh? It's fun, yeah, it's hilarious, good time. For reals it's funny? Yeah. Like it literally makes you goofy. Yeah, you get all goofy. Silly, goofy. You get super silly, goofy.

I've never done it before. It's a good time. Yeah, I should. I wanna try laughing gas. I think I's a good time. Yeah. I want to try laughing guys. I think I asked for it the last time when I went to just do some basic shit. I was like, it's like a tooth cleaning. Like, yeah, dude, just cast me out. I want to try that. You can't, you could ask, especially someone we know. Yeah. You can take a hit. You should probably get some work done or something.

You want to let me just, just hit it. You know, they, I, I, I think that they, they regulate it pretty strongly, right? Because dentists have been known to like. I don't even think they offer it really. They don't. They won't bring it up unless you bring it up. Yep.

Yeah, yeah. Oh, well, I'm going to bring this shit up. Yeah, I know. I brought it up. I'm bringing it up. I figured it. Yeah. That's wild.

Yeah. I paid all this money. We're doing all this stuff. May as well give me some fun. Hey, speaking of fun, so these walkie talkies that you got us, Doug, so what's the deal with them? This is for if shit hits the fan. Yeah, we could talk to each other. Yeah, if we can't call each other, hopefully we can 35 miles Yeah, but if there's yeah

I mean, this is for the apocalypse anyways, we're all the buildings gonna be crushed anyway Bro you and Doug with these like in times. This guy's all, he's all stuck up on silver and gold. He's got lucky walkie talkies now silencers. I'm sure he's making an underground bunker. So we have underground bunker, Doug. Not yet working on it though. Yeah.

But so these don't work with satellite. They just connect to each other. Yeah. Like radio. Yeah. That's cool. So can I call you guys at night and stuff when you're in bed? Let's see here where you live. I'm trying to think you and Doug might be able to drag each other. Maybe we can try. How many miles is it with things in the way? I mean, it's probably

it says two miles in the mountains. Yeah, so yeah, we're probably not going to get that far. You know, they are valuable to have though, especially like for your kids in the house or something like that. Like if they're, you know, playing outside or whatever, yeah, you know, use this walkie talkie. I have friends that do that with their kids. Yeah. I mean, Justin does that. His boys, when they go out, that's what he does. Right? Yeah, I guess his group of friends in the neighborhood, they all have walkie talkie. So they'll stay at Joe's house. I'm gonna stay here for dinner. Like, okay, cool.

Oh, that's great. Way better than a cell phone with all the social media and shit on it. No I think that's cool. I think that's really cool. I looked up some some interesting statistics or facts about margarine. You guys remember margarine? People still use margarine? Yes they still use it. It's still country crock or whatever right and what's the point at this time? You know it's crazy for people who are like, whenever something happens and fitness and health people are like, I don't trust that just yet, it's new, and you get shamed.

You should just trust the scientists. It's like, listen, I've lived long enough to see so many terrible, horrible things that were told, where they told us it was healthy for us. Margarine being one of them, we were literally convinced that margarine was not just an alternative to butter, but was a healthy. Superior.

It was a healthy alternative to butter. Well, now of course, it turns out that margarine is far worse for you than butter, increasing risks of cancer and heart disease. I just learned this. It's one, apparently one molecule away from plastic. Did you guys know that?

Oh my God. Yeah. Are you serious? Do you guys know when it was invented or who invented it? 1869? Napoleon. Napoleon. What?

Why? Napoleon had, he had somebody invent or a group invent a fat alternative for his soldiers because animal fats were scarce during their wars and stuff like that. So they invented margarine and that's how they created it. And then it didn't become popular until much later. Until the war on fat happened. And then the war on fat happened and then margarine became a thing. And if you look at those old commercials on margarine or Crisco,

talking about how healthy it is for you and how crispy it makes your food. There was somebody on X who posted old ads that- Dude, those old ads are so epic. The title of it is trust the science in quotes and then there's this ad of a doctor, you know, he's got a stethoscope and he's talking about cigarettes. It's good for your lungs. It's good for your throat. It helps your cough. Wow. We got away with that shit. Oh my god. For so long. Yeah, so... It is funny. It's funny that we, that's to your point, like that today, it's like people shame somebody

for questioning anything that doctors say today. And it's like, why? When in history, you have this, and maybe it's just because people forget so quickly. People forget. We just get arrogant because we think we figured everything out, you know, at this point. I mean, we're living through one right now.

I mean, after what just happened with the, you know, the pandemic and you look back and many, if not all the policies that we enacted made things 10 times worse. You know what they do with nursing homes? Oh my God. They took sick people, put them back in the nursing homes and caused tons of deaths.

And that was policy in many places. Like you have to leave them there and just got people killed. And then they told kids to stay home. Kids had no risk or whatever. And we don't even go down the list, but that was recent. It wasn't that long ago. No. You know, I don't know.

Great, crazy stuff. All right. So, uh, more cool stuff. I pulled up a study, uh, CRISPR technology. You guys are familiar with that? Yeah. Okay. They just did a study where they were able to

bring eyesight to, I'm going to pull it up, to people with a specific type of blindness. So 79% of clinical trial participants experienced measurable improvements after receiving experimental CRISPR based gene editing that is designed to fix a rare form of blindness. I mean, so good, good stuff on the science. Like this CRISPR technology is interesting. It's been interesting what we could do with that is designed to fix a rare form of blindness. I mean, so good stuff on science.

CRISPR technology's interesting. It's been interesting what we could do with this to help people with issues that we normally couldn't cure. Pretty cool. Have you watched some of all the underground stuff that they're doing with that? No, what do you mean underground? There's like a huge CRISPR technology

underground community. What are you talking about? Yeah. Oh, where they do it on themselves? Oh yeah, where you have people- Is that real though? Yes, I've watched like a whole documentary. Is that the one that Justin Yeah. Oh, where they do it on themselves? Bro, yeah, well you have people- Is that real though? Yes, I've watched like a whole like doctorate try job.

Is that the one that Justin sent where they look like they made a spider worm? No, not just that. Not just that, they're like to themselves. There's people doing stuff for like, so they have like super hearing sound and like vision so they can see like an eagle. There's a specific name they call these self-experimenters.

Yeah, look up like underground CRISPR technology. Is that real though? Are they really able to do it? Well, and they look, I mean, they'll take genetic traits. these self-experimenters. Yeah, look up like underground CRISPR technology. There's a whole community. Is that real though? Are they really able to do it? Well, and they look, I mean, they'll take genetic traits. Get dog that glows. Exactly, like a bioluminescence from a. Firefly and put it in like an animal, yes.

They put it in their skin just to see if it, you know, they can affect their skin. There's all kinds of crazy stuff like that happening. And supposedly, like, you have these people that are biohacking and doing this in their garage at home. Like the, the, the, like the ability to do it from home is, is, let's see, gene club and underground genome editing. Wow. Look at that. I should never question you when it comes to underground stuff. Cause it was a science thing. You thought you'd have me. I thought I had you.

Cause it was a science thing. You thought you'd have me. I mean the transhumanist stuff was all about like, you know, implanting chips and things to see if they could then turn on their appliances. And so people have already been trying to do this before it's like, you know, everybody else like me is like worried. They're going to like force this on us. They're they're experimenting anyways. Wow. Yeah. Dude, along those lines, this is a crazy one.

They did a, um, a huge analysis of 30, almost 14 hour patients with traumatic brain injuries. So traumatic brain injuries, typically they approach the family and they're like, look, you're, you're whatever your spouse, your loved one has had a traumatic brain injury. Uh, to make a decision within the next 72 hours or whatever, if you want to pull the plug. They did this analysis and they found that many might have survived and recovered if they had not taken them off life support. How messed up is that?

Wow. Yeah. So, I mean, there's a lot we don't know. Crazy. Would you guys, would you guys want to be? No, take, let me, are you one of those? Yeah, let me go for reals. Yeah. Do you have it in your medical? You should have not resuscitate. Yeah, no, I don't. Um, but I, I mean, I feel like if I was a vegetable, I wouldn't want, I wouldn't want to be on live support. At that point in my

life, like if I tell long, like, is there a timeframe? Like if I don't come back after, if support. At that point in my life, like if I can't. How long? Like is there a timeframe? Like if I don't come back after six days. I mean if you're in a coma it's different, right? Versus I think if you're for sure like gonna be a vegetable. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, I guess I never thought about

what's the timeframe on that that I would want to have a chat. Because here's the thing too though, like if you're in a coma and the doctor's saying things like, because they can scan your brain and tell if you're mush brain anyways, like hey. Well, that's what I just read. A lot of these would have been okay.

And they would have had some. Well, okay, what do you mean by okay? They could have lived, but then they would have. Survived with some support, it says. Yeah, I see. Yeah, yeah, no, let me go. Really? Yeah, yeah, I mean just.

You better put that in your medical records because I'm not gonna do that, bro. Really? Yeah, no. But like, I don't can, Adam's, we're gonna pull you back, Yeah. Yeah. I mean, just if you better put that in your medical records, cause I'm not going to do that, bro. Really? Yeah. No, but like, Adam's we're going to pull you back. Yeah. Then at that point I might kill you when I come back. Just letting you know. I'll tell you stories. We're going to tour with holographic. I'll do a friend shoots other friend cause he saved his life. I'll tease you and shit.

Wake up. I mean, no, I don't, I mean, you guys don't feel that way. I think that, I mean, no, I, I mean, you guys don't feel that way. I think, uh, I mean, okay. Um, disabled in like a wheelchair, but completely mentally there still, that's totally different, but mentally, like if my brain is mush, but then I could, I can still breathe and live or like with assistance, like, Oh no, I'm cool, dude. Really? Yeah. I'm cool. I don't know. I mean, at that point I'm like, especially if it takes a machine to help keep me alive. Did you, did you, did you, did you, did you, did you, did you, did you, oh no, I'm cool dude. Really? Yeah, I'm cool. I don't know. I mean at that point I'm like, especially if it takes a machine to help keep me alive.

Did you know that thing? Is it not the way I look at it, I'm like, it was my time, God was trying to take me. Like he was like trying. If he wants to take you, he's gonna take you. That's what I think. I don't think he's gonna be like, oh cool, I'll let this machine keep you alive.

You're supposed to go, he's supposed to go. Yeah. Wasn't there, I think recently, somebody who lived in an iron lung for I think 60 years, maybe you can look this up. Do you guys know what an iron lung is? So. Isn't that, that's the machine that does the breathing.

Yeah, so I think this guy when he was a child contracted polio, was put in an iron lung and had to live in there for the rest of his life. And I think he was in there for 60 years. That's like that song. Bring me an iron lung. That's not what he says. What is he saying?

That is not what he says. What is he saying now, Justin? Higher love. A higher love. That sounds like, I always thought it was iron lung. Okay, 70 years he lived in an iron lung. That's what he looked like.

Only his face stuck out. The rest of it. Wow. Yeah, he was. He was. 70 years like that? 70 years he was in there. You know? Yeah, but I don't know, man, 70 years, like that. 70 years. He was in there, you know?

Yeah. But, uh, I don't know, man. Yeah. Look at that. That's his family there hanging out with him and stuff. I mean, how, how rich do you have to be to be all those, to support somebody living like that? That's the thing. I can't, that can't be like, enormous stress in the family.

I don't know. That's a good question. That had to been hell expensive to pay to have that for 70 years. Yeah, it's 100%. Yeah, that's a good question. There he is at six years old. Holy shit. Can you imagine being there for that long?

70 years. He actually looks okay right there. When he was a child? Yeah. Well, it paralyzed him from the neck down so he couldn't breathe. So an iron lung inflates and deflates your lungs and it keeps you breathing.

But then now was his brain function and communication very normal? Yeah. He had polio. Yeah, yep. Oh, that's some polio. Mm-hmm, that's wild. I mean, look at his face right there.

He's painting with his teeth and stuff like that. That's what he did. And he looks like, yeah. That's what he did. He would paint and read and stuff. He would hold like a, it looked like a straw, but it was like a device out of his mouth and he would turn pages and mm-hmm.

Wow. So, I don't know. Crazy. I know. Yeah, so his brain is fully functioning. Totally fine. So that's different. Like my body shut down, so like the wheelchair thing. My body shut down, but my brain is there

and I can communicate, I can enjoy entertainment, I can be with my family. I wanna know how much it cost to do that. What, for an iron man? No, I'm serious. Like the average person, there's no way they could afford to do that, I wouldn't think. Yeah, I want to know how much it cost to do that. No I'm serious like the average person there's no way they can afford to do that I wouldn't think. Yeah insurance is the only thing that goes so far. He became a lawyer look at all the stuff about him dude he actually studied and became a lawyer. Oh see that's cool. Yeah. Cool

story. Interesting right. But he just passed away. It was recent. I guess he looks like because he's old he's 70 right. Right? Older. Oh, 76. How, how did you live to be 76? What a crazy, and not like your body just atrophy away. Of course it did. Of course it did. It's just absolutely. I'm sure if they don't show his body, but I'm sure, I'm sure it completely

atrophied the whole time. I know. I know wild, right? Yeah, that is wild. I know. That's really, where did you see that? I don't know. It popped up. Look at that. He became a TikTok star in the whole time. I know. I know. Wild, right? Yeah. That is wild. That's really, where did you see that? Uh, it popped up. Look at that. He became a tick tock star in the seventies. That's why. Well, that's why I saw somebody shared a clip on somewhere on accident. He became a tick tock star in the seventies in his

seventies. Oh, not in the seventies. He figured out time travel too. In his seventies. I only read that. I was like, that makes no sense. Oh, in his seventies. I totally read that. I was like, that makes no sense. Dude, electric boogaloo like wow. So he got, that's crazy. He came tick tock famous. Yeah. That's wild. I know. Oh, that makes me want to pull up his tick tock and see some of the clips that he did. I bet it was if him doing art and stuff like that, it was probably, it just, I think it's him saying 470,70,000 followers. Iron lung man. Yeah, I wonder if he said... Wow. I never... So all I know is he

passed away. So I don't know what he said or what he did. Yeah. Wow. But I know. Instead he's always looking up like that. Look at that. You're always on your back looking back at people while you're on your back. That's got to be the... That's so... With 70 years, that's your life. That's what you know. You adjust to it, I guess. That is trippy. I did not even know back. That's got to be the, that's so, with 70 years that's your life. That's what you know. You adjust to it I guess. That is trippy. I did not even know that. That's crazy. I know, I know, crazy. Anyway, I got to tell you guys, my wife probably has to be one of the best salespeople for Entera. So she takes the peptide face cream, anytime her friend comes over, as soon as they get there, she puts it on them and then she waits. Because you can tell. Because you can tell. You can. Katrina loves it too. She'll put it on, she'll tell them to puts it on them and then she waits because you can tell because you could tell you can you can Katrina loves it too she'll put it on

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So I, okay, I have both. So the blue one you put on first. I feel like I noticed a difference in the blue more. I don't know the difference between the two. Have you used them both? Not together. Oh yeah, I used the blue one, then put on the clear one. And you notice, you notice within an hour. Yeah, no, I know. I like it.

Do you know what type of peptides those are? Um, I think it's GCK. GCK. Oh, like the copper one. Yeah, so, I know. I like it. Do you know what type of peptides those are? It's the GCK. Oh, like the copper one? Yeah. What is it, GHK? GHKC? CU. GHKCU.

Yeah. And then I don't know what's in the clear one. OK, so yeah. So I really feel like I noticed a difference on the blue one. So you use both together. Both. Oh. Yeah, use the blue one first on the clear one.

Yeah. And like I said, she'll have her friends do it. And by the end of the night, they're all like first on the clear one. And like I said, she'll have her friends do it and by the end of the night they're all like, show me the website. Give me the website. I wanna ask them the difference between, because, okay, so I have three different, not to throw the other companies under the bus,

but I have three different GHK, G-H-K-C-U. Type peptides. Type peptides. And they don't all give me the same feeling after putting them on. Cause they, I've been prescribed that for my psoriasis too. So you put it, you put it on my. So this is not pure GHKCU. It's got other stuff in it as well. That's probably why it feels different.

Yeah. Yeah. Cause you're getting also the prescribed straight pure peptide. Yes. This has that plus some other peptides I don't, I'm not familiar with that are in there because I feel like I get more benefits from that, from the other ones. For skin. It's pretty, yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's, it's, it's supposed to be for my psoriasis.

I've never seen your psoriasis look this good by the way. Yeah. But that's gotta be a combination or anything. Plus the triseptide. It's wild how big of a difference it's made. I can't even believe it. It's pretty crazy. Anyway a difference it's made. I can't even believe it. It's pretty crazy. Anyway, I'm going to, did you guys hear about the law that they proposed and it hasn't passed, but have you heard of the law? What's happening in Canada?

We need our Canadian fans to tell us what the hell's happening over there, because I keep reading stuff about Canada. We do need like a representative. What's going on there? Bro, I got to pull it up because I don't want to miss, I'm going to look it up. I don't want to misquote this, but from my understanding, there was a bill they were

trying to pass. I'm gonna pull it up. Where you could go to jail for hate speech. Oh God. Okay. Which who determines what's hate speech, right? That's the problem. But anyway, hate speech, but here's the thing.

It would become retro, oh, here we go. Ready for this? It's a new, it's a, it's a new law call called the online harms bill C 63. Oh my God. Ready for this? I'm going to trip you guys out. I can't believe this was proposed. It will give police the power to retroactively search the internet for hate

speech violations and arrest offenders even if the offense occurred before the law existed. So in other words, they passed the bill now, then they'll look at your social media from 10 years ago and throw you in jail. How can they do that? Do you know what that is, by the way? Very clear for people who don't see this is very, very clear. You know what that is?

It's like dictatorship. It's like reverse minority report. Yeah. You know that is it's like that's like dictatorship reverse minority report Yeah, you remember minority report was they see the future? Yeah You're gonna do a crime and they arrest you this is like you got to ask yourself Why would they why would they ever pass a law if they pass it? Why would they pass a law like this? Because if you're a political opponent or somebody that they don't like they could very easily scrub your social media for the last 15 years Find something throw your ass in jail, that's why.

You know what's weird about that though, Sal? Is that it works both ways. It screws them too, it's like you, like the people that are trying to pass these laws have to be in their 40s, 50s, 60 years old, so it's like, are you kidding me? There's a good chance that you got some dirt and some shit in here.

As long as you play the game, maybe they won't pull it on you, but if you don't play the game, then they'll pull it on you too. You know, that's the thing. Makes me wonder if these quote unquote leaders are not the ones being told what to do, like you're gonna pass this.

That's crazy, I don't wanna pass this. Like Justin Trudeau wore blackface a while ago, a long time ago. There's pictures on the internet, right? That would be considered hate speech. And he's the one that quote unquote is gonna pass the law. Are they gonna use it on him? That's what I mean.

That's why I was like, it didn't make sense to me. It's like, it'll backfire if they do something like that. Because the likelihood that anybody who's over the age of 40 hasn't said something that could be deemed as hate speech is crazy. It's wild. It's wild that they would even consider something like that. That's the craziest thing ever.

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wouldn't you use a quick, easy answer is that I think approaching fat loss through any sort of running modality is never a great strategy. Is sprinting great for you? Yes. I think it's a great... Well said. Yeah. I think sprinting is very good for you to be explosive, to develop fast twitch fibers, to do things like that. I think that's incredible. But do I think it's a... If someone asked me, hey, my goal is fat loss, should I do these things? It's like, well no, there's better strategies for fat loss.

I think if you look at exercise, look at exercise as, there's two things you can look at. One is, what kind of performance am I looking for? Am I looking for endurance, strength, stamina? And also, does it build muscle or not? The build muscle part will always burn, will help you burn more body fat than the other forms of exercise. But when it comes to cardio, look at it from a performance standpoint. Do you want explosive power?

Do you want stamina and endurance? Now they're comparing it to, to walking. There's a big difference between sprinting and walking. Walking tends to be rejuvenating and recuperative. Sprinting tends to be a stress on the body. Uh, so sprinting is much more challenging. Walking, I could take somebody who's over trained and overstressed, have them walk nice,

slow, leisurely walk, and it helped them. You take someone who's on that cusp of over training, you have them sprint, you're going to hammer them, it's not going to work very well at all. Sprinting also requires a lot of skill and control. Uh, so the injury risk is much higher. Uh, I've never had anybody use sprints for fat loss. The only time I've ever had anybody use sprints was if they were an athlete and

they need to get more explosive, you know, with their speed. I think people sort of associate, uh, sprints because they see really lean athletes and they see this muscular physique. And so, um, the thought is too, in, which is a thought that's still out there about like conditioning and cardio being the best source, uh, for burning calories, which then in fact must mean that you're burning fat. Uh, but yeah, there's, there's definitely a different, better strategy to apply for that.

I do love incorporating sprints just for the overall capability of, of accelerating and moving your body to that degree. It really does help kind of, um, with all other aspects of, of training and function. And it builds up your, uh, you know, your capacity to, to be able to produce that type of, and generate that type of force, uh, on command and control. And you know your capacity to be able to produce that type of and generate that type of force on Command and control and you know, there's there's a lot of benefit and from the skill of sprinting But you know, I would definitely look more at that from an athletic perspective than I would for any

That's this is the only way I'm prescribing this to a client is if you said to me Adam. I want to be the most Athletic healthy version my body can be. Sprinting is in the routine. I would definitely have that. That would encompass that. I want to be the healthiest athletic version of myself. What does our training look like? I'm incorporating sprints into that person. If someone says, Adam, I want to be the leanest, most ripped version of myself, there is no

sprinting in there. No. There's no reason for me to do that for someone who says, I want to be the leanest, most ripped version of myself. There is no sprinting in there. No. There's no reason for me to do that for someone who says, I want to be the leanest, most ripped version I can be. That is not being prescribed. From a pure fat loss perspective, I will almost always recommend walking over sprinting, precisely because, well, there's a few reasons. One, walking is low skill, so I can have anybody do walking,

and I don't have to worry about injury risk and stuff like that. But more importantly, if they have the capacity, if they have the ability to handle the stress and volume from sprinting, I'd much more rather put that towards strength training and have them walk. Yes. That's going to be better for fat loss. So if it's from a pure fat loss perspective, like, and you can like, oh, wait a minute. You're sprinting three days a week

No, no, let's take that I'll have you walk and let's take that capacity move it towards strength training Yes, it'd be much better for because that person who's doing that if they could exchange that calorie burn and sprinting time For adding three more pounds of muscle to their body those three more pounds from a calorie Expenditure and fat loss point is gonna be 10 times better for them. And so, yeah, it really depends. Anyone who asks questions like this to me, I dig deeper into what is your desired outcome, and then that would dictate whether I would say

that's a good idea or not. Again, if you said I wanna be an athletic version of myself, well, that's a priority, then sprinting makes a lot of sense to me. But if you were like, Adam, I wanna be the most be an athletic version of myself, well, that's a priority, then sprinting makes a lot of sense to me. But if you were like, Adam, I want to be the most ripped shredded version of myself, then that doesn't fall into that equation. Next question is from Liv Lean with Luke.

Any benefit to using the power plate machine for mobility work versus regular stretches? These are getting popular. Yeah, you know, I used to be very skeptical. So power plate, you stand on it, vibrates at a very high frequency. And I used to make fun of it because people were like, oh, the studies show it helps build bone and muscle

and et cetera, et cetera. I thought this is so dumb, it's a waste of time. Then I used one and I realized the problem was they don't understand how to explain it or sell it very well. And here's what happens on a power plate. Because of the vibration, it kind of gets your central nervous system to relax a little bit. Get out of the way. It overrides it. That's right. So you sit in a

squat, you can't go down any deeper. Oh, that's tight. You turn on the power plate. All of a sudden, because of the vibration, the central nervous system calms down. It's almost like it tricks your CNS and now you can get a little deeper. That's exactly what it does. Mobility and stretching work on a power plate can be amazing if you know how to use it. I've gotten into very deep squats, very deep lunges. I've done ankle mobility on a power plate and it does allow my body to move further. Then when I get off of it, I have this increased mobility. Then I work on strengthening within. Now, can you do that without a power plate? You can't.

You definitely can. But the value of it is just, it's almost like, you know, when you laugh and your muscles kind of get weak and kind of loose, it kind of feels like that in the body as you're moving through the mobility movements and you notice that tightness gets out of the way, it kind of goes out of the way. And again, it's cause the vibration is tricking the CNS or almost like short-circuiting it in a way. Yeah, overriding, that's how I feel. How do you feel about it?

Yeah, I mean, over the years, I've kind of come to that similar conclusion. There is benefit to be able to get depth, but I'm not so sure you're able to keep that though. I think it's a bit of a, uh, like a temporary sort of, uh, uh, effect that it has. Um, and obviously you want to be able to like anything else, even if it's like I'm rolling myself out with, with a foam roller, I want to also be able to do the mobility work to then establish it and kind of

reinforce it as opposed to just get that temporary relief and then kind of move on. So I feel like it's, I feel like a lot of people that use it. Yeah. I think physical therapists use it. Well, I don't feel like there's much use outside of that for like strength training or for any kind of, um, uh, any real benefit that's going to stick. Yeah, it's become really gimmicky, um, in our space. And you see a lot of these classes that are built around it. I'm with you I don't know so I mean and I've experienced using them and you absolutely you get into it and all sudden you can sit all the way down in this deep squat you're like oh wow that feels actually pretty comfortable and easy to get down there. The question is

if I did that every single day let's say for a week getting down and sitting in this deep squat position, and then I get off the power late and I go to do a regular squat, have I found this new found range of motion? Did I get better connected or did I get temporary relief just while I was on the plate? And is my body better connected on there? I don't know. So here's how I use it. So I haven't used it in a while, but they have it at the club sport. Yeah. So what I did is I would use it to gain new mobility. Then I'd strength train in the new mobility and that's how you make it

stick like anything else. So you have to then train in it. That's what I mean. You have to have that follow up. Correct. Yeah. Yeah. It's how you use it.

I think that's how physical therapists use it too. They'll move through new ranges of motion. Then they'll take the client off and then they'll have them band work and strength, they'll have them do strength work to build new ranges of motion. Then they'll take the client off and then they'll have them band work and strength. They'll have them do strength work to build new strength with like static stretching or any other type of CMS, you know, manipulating type of, I had one of my friends DM me just recently about it and they were like swearing up and down like, Oh my God, so amazing.

You got to get one of these. And I just didn't respond. Now. Okay. Here's the thing. I would never spend that. That's it. I was just going to say the cost, how much they cost like 10,000. Yeah, no, not worth the cost in my

opinion. I wouldn't spend a thousand, much less 10,000. I mean that's... No, you could just get a foam roll that vibrates and guess what that is. It's hilarious. Once you fit it's an old dildo. Oh, bro. It is. Hold on, did that happen to you too? Yeah. I fell out. And we're like, oh wow, look at this. I had one in my studio, a foam roller that vibrated, and it was a little knob that you turned, and then it fell out, and it was an old school white plastic, like in the old ads, vibrator, the girl, she puts it on her face, those old ads,

where it's like, vibrate your neck, you're like, I know what you're selling. It's inside the foam roller. So, and you're right, like that's an easy $40 fix, right there, than buying a a thousand or $10,000 vibrating plate. Just put a vibrator in your full. And then you can, so, and again, uh, you've

heard me say this a bunch of times on the podcast. Hey, if you've got the money, then okay. Then totally. Are they really 10 grand? Yeah. Look them up. They were, I don't know if they, that was when they were new.

Power plates. Yeah. I haven't, it's not like I've been shopping for power plates. So I guarantee they're still well over a thousand. They didn't go from 10 all the way down to nothing. What does that say? Forty five hundred. Oh yeah. Ten thousand for the, there's one that, the one, the one that is at which we call it.

The one that's at the gym is that is not worth it. Yeah, dude, it's crazy. It's not even worth a thousand dollars. No, they were, if maybe if they were like a hundred bucks, I would do something like that. But look at 14,000. That's stupid. No, they were if maybe if they were like a hundred bucks, I would do something like that. But look at 14,000. That's stupid No, sorry. I mean in Like no matter what what there's somebody's listening right now to is gonna be all fending cuz they're oh my god I use the power play it's for me to get rid of my arthritis, you know, something like that, right? So but listen, you could do all that without it. That's right

You could like there's there's there's certain things that I think are extremely valuable and we're spending money on in our space that do tremendous, I mean listen, an infrared light is expensive. I mean, just one of those juve lights could cut, run you $1,500 to $3,000. But you can't duplicate what that does. That's right. I can't go do that really on my own. Unless maybe, and even the sun isn't giving me all the same thing. Yeah. It's not giving me all the same benefits. So it's just like,

you're not going to get the same benefits that where you can through what you're getting through the vibration plate through like mobility practices and doing it by yourself or a freaking vibrating foam roller for 40 bucks. Next question is from Tanya Barnhart. Do you recommend creatine for women? I heard that creatine is hard on the digestive system. I will let me answer the second part first. So the heart of the digestive system You'll know right away if creatine bothers your gut, but no it is not a typically Harden the digestive system type of supplement. But again, you'll take it and you'll know you'll have gastro distress Okay, I have these are outliersro distress, okay? I have-

Is there outliers? Yes, I have gut issues all the time. I've taken creatine since I was 16. I've actually never had a client that had an issue with creatine. Me neither. Yeah. I've never had a client that had one.

I had a tight one, but yeah. That's how rare it was. Yeah, never. Just a little bit of tummy reaction. Now here's the first part, okay? Do we recommend creatine for women? I'm gonna say this, and I'm gonna be very clear, okay? Of all the supplements that exist in the world,

besides a nutrient that will fill a gap that you're lacking, like if you lack vitamin D or you lack magnesium or you lack vitamin K, in which case it could be life-saving, forget that, right? Of all the supplements that exist, there's creatine and then everything else is in another category. That's how amazing creatine is. And I'm not just talking about muscle building and fat loss, which is it's phenomenal for. It's also incredible for longevity.

It's incredible for organ health. It's incredible for cognition. It's a longevity supplement. It's great for mitochondrial health. Methylation. We are looking at a, creatine is the one supplement I would tell everybody to use, including women. Now, what makes me sad about this is because creatine was initially sold as a muscle builder, which it does effectively.

It helps, it makes you stronger and build muscle. And it does so by fueling your muscles with more, uh, what's known as ATP. ATP is a, a source of energy that your muscles use when you're lifting heavy things or being explosive. So more ATP, you're stronger. It also hydrates your muscles so they feel fuller and then they probably build faster as a result. But because it was a muscle building supplement, women who historically been afraid of, oh, I don't want to gain any size or whatever, I'm not going to take creatine, especially because creatine hydrates your muscles. What does that mean?

You have more water in your muscles. And so then women got scared. Is it going to make me bloated? Not the same. Bloated is water outside of the muscles. Water inside the muscles is not bloat. That just means your muscles look nicer. They look fuller.

They look tighter, very different. That's what creatine does. So creatine across the board, young, old, male, female, I want to fight cognitive decline. I want to improve the health of my organs. I want to, especially if I'm vegan, I want to become stronger. I want to burn body fat. Like if you're not taking creatine, um, you shouldn't take any other supplement. Again, aside from supplements that, uh, meet nutrient deficiencies that you may have, because that

of course can be life-saving. Again, yes, creatine for everybody. That was the one supplement I told all my clients to tell. One of the biggest bangs for your buck too. It's relatively inexpensive. It's one of the most studied supplements. It was like a thousand peer-reviewed or more double-blind placebo controls. It's extremely safe.

It's incredible. In fact, now there, creatine is now, you'll see this soon. I talked about this nine years ago on the podcast. It's going to be one of the number one supplements we give to people as they age because it fights cognitive decline and improves longevity. So, man, you definitely take creatine, man, women, whatever. Next question is from David Ellis, LAH. Does under-eating affect joint health or is that

more of a vitamin thing? Under-eating affects all health. You will, if you under-eat, first off, nutrient, vitamin thing, if you under-eat, your odds of a nutrient deficiency are much higher, but if you under-eat, you'll notice it in your energy, your hormones, your skin, your bones, your organs, your brain.

If you just don't provide your body with enough nutrients, I mean, obviously you'll die. All your cells will get affected. Everything, everything gets affected, including joints. So if you want, if, for people who want to kind of learn more about this, look at the studies on, um, on people with eating disorders, people who

struggle with eating disorders over years and years and years. Look at their rates of osteoporosis, look at their rates of joint degeneration. It's scary stuff. I mean, you have like, you'll have girls in their, in their early 30s with terrible osteoporosis because they were, you know, underage. If you're under eating and lacking calcium and iron

and a lot of these. Even if you lack protein, carbs, I mean, protein and fats, because they were, you know, under-eating foods. Yeah, if you're under-eating and lacking calcium and iron and a lot of these. Even if you lack protein and fats, because they're essential. That being said, there's an interesting relationship here, too, because typically in our society, we overeat like crazy. Yes, we have an overeating problem. Yeah, we have an overeating problem, and if you actually went on a kick where you,

let's say, fasted for three days or cut out, went on a fasting mimicking diet, let's say where you ate only 500, 800 calories, say for a week or two, you'd actually probably see profound benefits that are positive in the joint because you have, it would tamp down on the joint inflammation. So even though, yes, it's unhealthy to under eat for extended periods of time

because your body needs those nutrients, there's a recommended daily allowance for all vitamins and minerals, right? And you can look that up for male, men, women, your age, and high weight and everything like that. Get an idea of what that should be. And if you're grossly under eating and you're under eating all those recommended daily allowance, then there's going to be adverse effects and your joints and bones will be affected by that. But in our society, we tend to over-consume and have more issues with joint inflammation.

Right. And in that case, it's actually beneficial because yeah, now you're losing weight, you're adding less pressure. Yeah, you're in a position now where your joints can actually recover. Especially if you combine it with exercise. I mean, I don't, I share that because it's close to home for me right now with my experience with the trisepatide and going so low calorie for that extended period of time.

And it's actually some of the best I've ever felt. And it was obvious that I had this like inflammation going on in my entire body and by actually reducing my calories and arguably Undereating for a little bit of time there I actually felt positive benefits now I know better than to stay on that low of a calorie for a really long time because eventually I'll get the other Side of it well and to I think as you're going through that you focus a little bit more on hydration was a bigger factor So you less the food more of the fluid. Yeah, which then really helps, you know, the, the joint

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