Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 2348: How to Build Wide Shoulders, Macros Vs. Calories for Fat Loss, the Best Peptide for Recovery & More

Episode Date: May 31, 2024

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Also, one day left for the May special, MAPS Strong and MAPS Power Lift, both 50% off. If you are interested, go to MAPSFitnessProducts.com and then use the code May50 for the discount. All right, here comes the show. Look, when it comes to fitness, more is not better. Look, here's how it works. Here's the scale. No activity, too much activity, the right amount.

Most people move past the right amount to what they can tolerate. Now that's not necessarily over training, but it is doing more than is necessary, which means you're impeding on your body's ability to adapt. You are slowing down your ability to recover. In other words, doing more oftentimes means you get less in terms of results. I know we've been taught that if you work oftentimes means you get less in terms of results.

I know we've been taught that if you work harder, you get better results. This tends to be true across the board, but not with exercise. So when you're working out, think appropriate. Don't think how much I can get away with. You'll do much better. How often do you think we get this wrong?

With ourselves? Yeah. Are you talking to me? No, I mean in general. I think that's important. All the time. When? I mean in general. I think that's important. All the time. When we talk about this I always think it's important that we because I never want to come from a place where I feel like I'm standing up on my soapbox telling everybody else how they do stuff.

Like I think the reason why we try and drill this home so much is because I fall susceptible to this. Right. Like so I know the science. I'm aware of it and I still make this mistake. It's also this, because what's interesting, so we've observed this for decades, running gyms, training clients. We know this will be true. We've been talking about it for a long time.

Fitness coaches, strength coaches know this. But the data now coming out to support this is remarkable. For example, if you want to prevent muscle loss as you age, not get stronger. Let's just say you want to just not lose muscle. Cause as you age, every decade you lose a certain percentage of muscle loss or strength, unless you counteract that with strength training, the amount of strength training required just to prevent muscle loss is something like one session every two weeks between that study sound and the one that, by the way, Andrew, if you

could find this for me, cause I referenced it so much and I never remember the name of the study is the, the, the one where they followed the three groups, right? For 12 weeks and the- Two groups. Was it two groups? Yeah. Lane talks about this one.

Yeah. And the, and that one's to me, one of the most profound studies that we've shared on this podcast since we've started it. I think that's crazy. And that's the one that shows that they had- Every third week, they took a full week off. Yeah.

So like they worked out three weeks, took a week off, three weeks, took a week off. Then the other group worked out every week. At the end of the study, same strength, same muscle gain. Yeah, that's crazy. But especially considering a lot of us would think like, cause how often does this happen in your own fitness journey? Where you're training, you're in good rhythm,

and ah, just a rough week and you only got to the gym once or twice that week. And like in the past I would be like, oh, massive failure. You know what I'm saying? I would like beat myself up over that or worse. You know the anxiety going into vacation. Worse, that week is I chalk it up as, oh, I fucked up. So I also eat bad too.

Right. When in reality, I'm just fine. That week off is probably good for me. Yes. And if you're one of those super consistent people, it almost always is. You know, we have to be clear, like being active is also healthy.

So what we're not saying is that you get all of the benefits of being active when you do less because it's more appropriate. What we're talking about specifically here are the adaptations that strength training pertains to. Muscle and strength. When it comes to that, people oftentimes do more than is necessary.

And when you do more than is necessary, when it comes to strength training, what you're doing, you're dipping into your body's ability to adapt, your body's ability to recover. So in other words, more than is necessary reduces the strength and muscle gains. Now, daily activity is healthy for you, but when it comes to strength training, you got to approach it much more strategically. And the average person, look, 80% of the people listening to this podcast or the people out there in the real world, 80% of people, probably two or three days a week would be ideal forever of strength. That's it.

Almost nobody, very few people would benefit from four or five and especially six days a week of strength training. The problem is we look at these super top level athletes and bodybuilders and we say, okay, that's what's considered ideal. No, I trained people for almost 20 years and most of my clients were two days a week of strength training.

Now they were active on the other days, they would walk and do other kind of low impact, low intensity type activity just to move. But when it came to actual strength training, it was two days a week and they got exceptional, exceptional results. So this understanding, this myth that you need to do so much, not only is it wrong, but it's the opposite of what is true. I think it's tough because there's different personalities.

Like in the beginning, the biggest challenge is to get consistency. And I think that that's something we stress a lot in the beginning of like how you can kind of build up that momentum and how you can work your way in that direction. Then it's like, people will catch fire with the consistency and then it's like, okay, but now we have to taper that. We gotta make sure that we're not doing it in excess and more isn't better and being effective and efficient.

That's the next challenge within that phase of your progression of training. Yeah. You know, the argument that I was going to make is that I also think that the person who tends to do this is the worst person, right? So the person who is training five, six, seven days a week, you know, or going back for double days is also the person who works eight to 10 hours a day is high stress job.

If they got three kids. I mean, it tends to be that person who thinks more is better because that's how they approach every other thing in their life and in other so many other fields of their life that's actually served them. I work harder, I get paid more. I study harder, I learn more. Like a lot of things that you do that you put more effort in, you get more return. Unfortunately in, in body composition change, that's not true. It's not the more we put in, the more you get. And so that person who gravitates towards the double days, the six, seven days a week is typically the wrong person.

And the person who probably could get away with the five days a week of training is the person who's so Zen about their life, right? They're easy, easy, easy going. They mitigate stress a lot. They don't get a lot on their plate. And those are the ones ones that probably could handle more. Well, you know, so I've heard this argument before when I say this, people are like, well, we got to work hard on getting people in the gym, and you're trying to tell people not to go too much. No, no, no, it's the same person. It's even that, because here's the point I'm going to make. The consistency issue,

I will argue, what I mean by the consistency issue is a lot of people start working out and then they stop. They start and then they stop. That's most people. Most people don't do it and then stay with it consistently, right or wrong, however they do it. Most people don't do that for long periods of time. Usually the average person has an issue with actually staying consistent.

And I'll argue, part of the reason why they have trouble staying consistent is they do too much too fast. That's part of the problem. Part of the problem is, yes, because a piece of my success formula with my clients later on when I became a good trainer was that I got them to start slow. That was actually one of the key ways

I got people to stay consistent. What happens with a lot of people is they think, okay, I'm gonna start working out, and I gotta do this at least four days a week or five days a week or every day for this to make a difference. They jump in all at once. They haven't built the behaviors, the discipline to do so. Their body can't handle it because that's a lot. They beat themselves up because they think that's the way to success. Then they feel like crap. Then they stop. So this message doesn't just apply to the crazy fitness

fanatics that over train. This message is also good for the beginner or the person who has trouble being consistent. And to them, I'll say, you, you don't need as much as you think. Start slow and you'll get there faster. That's the whole point. The whole point is you'll get there faster by doing the right amount. Anyway, I got to ask you guys a question about, uh, I want to see if this, if this is true with you guys as well. And I actually looked this up and I didn't find studies on it, but a lot of commentary on this. So something I noticed with my kids, especially

my little ones, is there's a couple of days a week where I will be with them all day long and Jessica will try and get out of the house most of the day. So it's just me and them. Yeah. And so now I'm starting to notice some trends here where I'm with them all day. We're having a great time.

No meltdowns. Like kids seem to be going, get along great, whatever. Mom shows up and they're just, what happened to these kids? Screaming, yelling, tantrum, what's going on? And I'm like, is it, like why is this happening? And I started noticing, I started pointing it out to Jessica, I'm like, you know, they don't do this

when they're around me, what's going on? And she's like, that's because I'm mom, that's what kids do around mom. Now, I've heard people say it's because dads are more like disciplinary, but I'm not like scary disciplinary. I don't do that and I've been reading up on this and this is like a thing that mom and dads talk about where when kids around mom they feel like they can act up or act out with dad. Do you think it's more of a sex

thing or it's a more of a personality trait per thing? Like so there's probably marriages where the flip is true? I don't know. I'm reading a lot of this and I've read things like, oh my, my kids go to bed, they go to sleep so much easier, my husband puts them down. I mean Katrina, Katrina admits that, you know, cause I've actually never seen my son at all break down and she's like, he does that in front of her. Yeah. She says she's had a couple of instances and I've told you that we've pinpointed what happens. And his is like a direct correlation with his time that he gets to spend with me.

So if we have like. And you're more often gone than she is. Yeah, oh yeah. Yeah, she's never gone out of his life. She's always there. It's very, very rare she takes off for a day or two. And I'm just with him. She's always with him.

And she gets him ready for school and gets them off to school every morning. And so if it was like two or three days where we've traveled the business and she's home with them, by day two or three, she's normally prepared for a difficult morning, she says. Like he's starting to miss dad and that time that we spend.

And I think a lot of that is that for at least this is our experience is that we've created so many consistencies in his life and that's in it's not I don't leave a lot so it creates this inconsistency of like oh I'm used to coming home from school and I get to play with daddy for you know two or three hours where we spend all this energy and wrestle and it's our bonding time that we get. And then he's now had one day where it's, oh, it's not a big deal. Two days in a row of not having that.

Okay, by day three, I'm starting to miss daddy. And so now I'm difficult. So then I drag my feet to brush my teeth in the morning. I tell mommy, I don't wanna wear that shirt today. So she says that she's, and I don't ever see that. He's like a total saint of a kid. She says that he can be that way, but that's, it's connected to that.

Have you had any where she's been gone? Because she rarely ever leaves, but have you ever seen if he acts up? If she's gone? No, he doesn't ever act up with me. I feel like I have. See, I went online, so I'm like, is this a thing? Is this really a thing?

Because I see what my older kids do with their mom. I'm like, is this really a thing where they, cause I'm not like this, you guys know me, I'm not a hyper disciplinarian. I don't yield. I don't intimidate my kids. I don't do that stuff. Cause some people would be like, well, they're scared of their dad.

Like my kids aren't scared of me, but there's something about moms and dads. I looked this up and the commentary, so there's no studies is like, well, they're comfortable with their mom to act a particular particular way or they're more likely, but I don't know. I don't know.

Do you see this Justin? Yeah. I mean, it's, it's a clear difference. Really? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's a clear difference. It's, it's, and I, I don't know what I'd attribute it to other than like, I think it's a personality thing, but obviously mom is like the nurturing, um, sort of signal or like anything like, like cut or like, they want to cry. They'll go to her and aren't going to go to me. But at the same time too, like the physicality, like we have a lot of physicality and it gets a

lot of that unrestful energy out that like she experiences it differently. Right? So if they're like, ah, like bits of frustration or this, I'll like go over and like shake them, hang them upside down. And you know, to me, like physically like shaking and shake them, hang them upside down, and you know what I mean? Like physically like shaking out of them and then they're good. She doesn't know how to do that or like, you know, it's just, that's a lot to ask. That's what I attribute it to is that he hasn't got that expenditure from dad for three days and that's part of his routine. And so now he's getting kind of restless in the next day.

That might be it. You're not going to talk your way through it. This is a hard part. There's a difference. Like, you know, like my kids don't respond to you like, let's sit down and analyze this psychologically. You're not going to fucking respond to that. That's why you make that face.

Because this is all the advice I hear all the time from everybody. It's like, it doesn't work. They've got to get it out of their body a lot. Especially your DNA, too. I mean, that's you. No, but you know what I mean? Yeah, I get it.

And my case is its own, right? I have my own experience. But that's why it's good advice for the general audience, but it doesn't work for my kids. There's a good point, though. He's also onto another point, what I think is the strongest point is that mothers are the nurturers, that she is the one that

has more empathy than you do. And I think they know it. And they, of course they do. And so when, when kids cry and act out, it's because they, they want something, they either, they want you to feel how they're feeling or they want something from you. And so they're, they know that they're more likely to get that from mom, the dad. Like, so them crying or acting out, they're more likely to get an empathetic response from their mother where their father's going to be like, what are you doing? Yeah. That's

not how you get your way. That's exactly how I respond to Max. If he gets any, what are you doing? Like that doesn't, you don't, that doesn't work with dad. Yeah, I even say it doesn't work with me. There's a word. Does it work? It is a scheme. It is. There's a, I think that's one of the mistakes that some parents make is like, is underestimating how smart your kids are. Just because they are not like super fluent with language yet or can articulate their feelings very well, they pick up on a lot of

our behaviors and things and the stuff we do and they've learned very well like what they can get away with. Or this works here and this doesn't. Yeah, exactly. This works with this parent. This doesn't work. And so, yeah, you know, and with that comes what I don't get is the, you know, when my son wants the cuddle or the love and the affection, he doesn't come running to me. If he's scared, if we're somewhere in a very intimidating place, he wants to be on my shoulders or connected to me because like, as I would think that's pretty natural, but I don't get the, the sensitive, like I would love my son, like wanted to cuddle up and watch a movie with me. I don't get that. When I cut, he doesn't want that. When I cuddle with Mike, with my son, he, he'll cuddle for a little bit.

And then it turns into like wrestling. Yeah, yeah. He's cuddling for one minute. And then he's poking me and he's thinking that he wants to play. And he's wrestling. Yeah, yeah. Where he'll, he'll lay, he'll lay next to Katrina and he'll like, he'll like stroke her face and like, nuzzle up to him. Oh my God, my kids do that to Jessica. They'll like rub on her arm and just put their face,

whatever, and I tried to do that with my son. I had my shirt off, we were outside the other day, we had my shirt off, and I was holding, you know, because we were out in the sun, and I had him on me and he's like, he's like, your chest is pokey. You know, because he had a very chest. I think it's the physicality too, because when the kids wake up and Jessica's like, your chest is pokey. You know what I'm saying? Your chest hurts. So I think it's the physicality too, because when the kids wake up and Jessica's with them,

they do crafts. They do, they make things, they paint things. I never paint or, I don't work with glitter, I don't work with paint. This morning, this morning the table was set up. No, I hate glitter. By the way, can I tell you how much I fucking hate glitter? I hate, you know, because it ends up everywhere.

It looks like it gets you in trouble too. If you're a grown ass man, you have glitter all over you. Yeah, you get a lot of questions, bro. You get a lot of questions. Bro, I look like a unicorn exploding in my house. But anyway, she just crafts with them. For me, it's like, oh, you guys are awake? Let's play this game called I'm going to run after you

and throw this ball at you. You're like, ah! Of course, they're more calm afterwards. It's probably that. Hey, have you guys, because I know you guys are homeschooling and stuff like that, have you looked into the Kuman thing that I was telling you guys about?

I think it's really cool. I'm really impressed. I haven't looked into super, yeah. Oh, speaking of education stuff, that post you showed me in regards to children's activity, P.E., and how it affects their brain. Those are kids in Japan in kindergarten doing all that physical stuff.

I know, I know. You know what I see the video, what were they actually doing? Oh, it's like an obstacle course. Like an obstacle course, but the stuff they were doing is like, I mean, I'll be the first to admit, my son couldn't do any of that.

No. No way. No, you know what, is it what I don't like about- Their uniformity, I've seen videos where they have them all like one big jump rub jumping together. They're doing like like Coordinated moves that are with dribbling a basketball. Have you seen that video where they dribble basketball together? Yes So here's what I don't like by the way that we sell it the way we sell it is we say hey if you have your Kids be active. They'll do better academically. I think that's, first off, it's true, but that's a stupid selling point.

You don't want your kids to be active because they'll do better academically. You want them to be active because- That's not the only focus of it. No, because the parts of the brain that control motor skills and develop are very plastic as a child. Some of that never comes back.

So you take a kid who's not active, they grow up past a certain point and then they decide to go be active, they'll never be as athletic or able to move as well as they could have had they learned those skills. Why is it that, okay, as we get older, we can learn, so relearn, unlearn, why is it that there's, I thought that was interesting

when Jordan Peterson brought that up in that conversation that we had about how these children that, between the ages of two and four, which are some of the most important development stages of their life, where they're interacting and role playing with kids. And if you take that out and you replace it with like an iPad that they never get it back,

how come you can never get it back? I don't understand how you can't. Why? Because there's parts of the brain that- So you move on from developing it? So as the brain is developing, there are parts of the brain that once they're developed, they're largely done.

There's a little bit of plasticity, but it's largely done. So that's what I mean, it moves on. Yes, once you miss that period, that window- See, why do we not talk about that more often? That's a big fucking deal. That's a big fucking deal. Huge, and it was my number one objection to making kids wear masks during COVID.

Because during that period of time, the neuroplasticity is so high to read faces, read emotions, communicate that you block that for two years in some places, California being one of them. And if it's in that- Well, can't you see the developmental stalls in adults? You start to recognize this. Well, that's what, I mean, that was- Oh, wow. You're trying to be somebody else.

You're playing pretend still. You're like, you're doing all these things we did as a kid when we were integrating with other kids. And it's just, to me, it makes a lot of sense. It made a lot, a ton of sense. And that was Peterson's argument was that this is what he goes, what I see in teenagers and young adults today is not shocking at all, considering

that they come from the iPhone generation. That before that, that wasn't even an option. If a kid didn't have another kid to play with, he had to role play himself and have his imagination. Where we've now replaced his imagination and that role play skill with an iPad or an iPhone. Never before. All the virtual people. And someone will try to make the case, oh, we had television before that, but television was on Saturday mornings for one or two hours. It was not eight hours a day,

which some of these kids are getting on these iPads and stuff like that. It's not even close either to as engaging, it wasn't as much content. It's not even, it doesn't even come close. It's like, this is like, it's drugs is what we're dealing with in comparison to like TV. But you know, all of the hard things

that you learn from as a kid, all the things that, I don't wanna say hard, challenging, what we've done is we've gotten rid of them and then we've completely not realized that that is what develops you. It's formative. Right, so like, okay, oh, kids are lonely, they shouldn't be lonely.

No, no, no, kids, they have to be in a position where they're forced to, okay, I got nothing to do, I got to go talk to that, that's so hard for me. I've got to walk up to those kids. I've got to go talk to them, or I got to come up with creative ways of playing, or you know, dating. You know, we're gonna make it so that they don't, you know, kids don't go up and talk to each other, and we're gonna make that super easy with dating apps, or you know, having, you know, kids watch porn or whatever now that's super accessible. These are all skills that you develop as young people that once you miss that opportunity,

it's done. You're done. We're going to be- Instead of getting a bunch of aloof adults at that point, right? They have their outlet instead of facing and confronting, like challenging things like that, like approaching somebody and knowing you might get rejected. You know, it's like, yeah, I'll just go back. Playing a game where there's a higher risk factor for injury, for potentially hurting yourself and how many of those games have been eliminated? Dodgeball, they don't, they don't allow it.

That's what pisses me off so much with this whole like coddling and, and like safety protocols and the NFL and all these other You know major sports. It's like we're trying to like soften everything so much because of like this like boogeyman CTE and all these other like like conditions that they're finding, you know in very like specific case like You know extreme cases, but you know for me It's like what is that signaling to the kids coming up? Like that, you know, you're immediately gonna get CT, you're immediately gonna get all these like,

you know, injuries that, it's like nobody wants to risk anything anymore and like live life to its fullest. Are we aware of where the pendulum is right now? Have we, have we? Is there a graph or something? Yeah, no. I mean, what I mean by that is, obviously, we've

been talking about this for a while now. And I think more parents are aware of the dangers of letting the iPad babysit your children, to the point where we've seen the market respond. There's a lot of these. By the way, speaking for parents, I found out a really cool thing about, and this is, I'm a big iPhone, Apple person,

but I guess iPhone, Apple is crappier at this. Android, I guess, has got really good software for blocking kids on their phones. So my cousins that I was with in Seattle, very, very conservative family, and all their teenagers, they have teenagers and young, middle-aged kids, right they all have Androids well, and I was asking like oh, what's with the Android phone? Oh, it's just so much easier for

Him. Oh, yeah It's and it was sick the the the restrictions that he can easily control from his phone For example, like and she was when the daughters was showing me, she was like, watch, she goes, if I wanted to download the app TikTok, and she goes do it, it's already controlled and blocked, and then it automatically sends a request to her dad, and her dad has to approve it, and she can, and then if he approves it, then she can have it,

otherwise he denies it. And so, yeah, the canopy is like that, but then what my son's figured out is the hack is to take the phone and put it back to factory settings. So that's why so this so if they can't do that that's rad. You can't that's what so Android it's all controlled through his his phone and he has it set to where like every single thing that he wants is like they have one they have one hour of Instagram they're allowed to use and then it shuts down. They have their phones, all social media, everything turns off at 10 p.m. at night and opens back up at 6 o'clock. There's no hacking or any way around it. I hate to say this, but I do, because I'm almost always against regulation, but I think

regulation to protect kids, I think maybe necessary. If you look at it as a drug. You think? That's a no-brainer. Yeah, I think regulation for necessary. Well, if you look at it as a drug, you think that's a no-brainer. Yeah, I think regulation for electronics, technology, food, I think should have been regulated a long time ago for kids. The majority of junk food is advertised to children. You know, I feel like that should,

like, you go to the grocery store, you ever go down the aisles and you notice the shitty junk food stuff on the low aisles that you don't see? Who's that there for? Yeah, bright colors. Bro, if you're a parent and you don't think that there should be regulation around processed foods

and regulation around technology, you're- Just for children, you're an adult, do whatever you want. That's what I'm saying, children. Yeah. Okay? If you don't think those things should be regulating your house, you're fucking up. Yeah. Just gonna say it to you, you're fucking up.

If you do not think that there should be some sort of regulation and moderate, and by the way, these kids that are growing up, because they're gonna be, oh my God, they're gonna rebel, no. You ask those teenagers who wish, say things like this, I wish my dad would let me go on on time, but I understand why.

And then I ask this, well when you become a parent one day and you have to, will you do the same thing? Absolutely. That's kinda crazy. But there's more context. Well, here's the context. They explain why. They don't just say you can't do this.

They're also very engaged parents. They're very present. Yes. And they have morals that they go by, their spiritual family as well. Yes. It's all of it, right? Otherwise, you're this authoritarian.

No, no, it's not authoritarian. No, it's like there's boundaries's like boundaries that are like reasonable. Which is why she agreed that I know, and she goes, I know I would love, and I would take advantage of five hours of Instagram if I was allowed it, but I understand why I don't. And I, when I become a parent one day, I will want the same thing for my kids. So it's like, it's not like they're unaware of that. And it's not, and they're also aware that they would, they would

desire it and want more of it, but they get it. Speaking of which they did this experiment with VR for adolescents to help reduce stress and anxiety. So they had kids put on VR and do these movements and exercises to try and reduce anxiety. And I, I kind of read the study, Jackie sent it to us and I kind of read the study and I'm like, are they simulating going outside? Why don't they just have them go outside?

Are you serious? I think that, yes, I think the VR exercises were literally to simulate what happens when you go outside and you're with people. So how closely was it related? I mean, I find that interesting. Yeah, I think that's what they were trying to do. Yeah, interesting.

And I'm like, why are we doing that? That's crazy. Yeah, you're innovating that when it's right here. Yeah, you're trying to come up with a VR way to get your kid to feel better. And the reason why they don't feel good is because they don't go outside. They don't hang out with other kids.

They're not socializing. And you're going to try and simulate that with technology. There's a lot of steps in between that we're missing here. You know what I mean? I mean, yeah, that's actually a really interesting argument or debate. It's kind of like a... I think it's cause it might be easier maybe,

they think they can sell it. Well, I mean, it's like a protein powder. Yeah. I mean, yeah. Yeah, I mean, not a bad parallel. That's what I meant. I mean, when you think about it, I mean, we've done all the research, we figured it out. Hey, here's the,

here's the most important parts of the, the, the chicken breasts that you, your body gets from this. Uh, but we, Hey, you don't have time all the time to cook a chicken breast and do those things like that. And so here you go. Here it is in powder form. Um, you know, but, and you're, you're missing out on some things, you know, some things that we're aware of some things that we're not aware of. Uh, I think with that outside, obviously you're not getting the sun, you know, but, and you're, you're missing out on some things, you know, some things that we're aware of, some things that we're not aware of. Uh, I think with that outside, obviously you're not getting the sun, you know what I'm saying? You're not getting the fresh air.

You know what they have? They have lamps that try to simulate the sun that people use in their offices to reduce depression. It's the same thing. It's so interesting to me. I mean, this is also what makes science really interesting and fascinating. We'll probably get pretty close to, and it'll be better than you being in a dark room and you know what I'm saying? And not getting any, and then people are going to be like, this is a miracle. I feel so much better. This was the weird, I always am reminded of when my wife was a pediatric nurse and they had one section of the hospital where you could go outside

and bring the patients out and get their outside fresh air and sun and get some doses. And the degree, the percentage of healing increased substantially to these kids that were able to go outside and do that with, but it's like, and so they've even presented all of that data and facts to the hospital and like to, when they were going back to kind of revisit and like build, but the thing is it's eating into their profits because now they're, the kids are like getting healing

and they're not staying as long. And now they're, so it's, systemically, this is like, it's so frustrating. It's a negative incentive. It's really hard, it's really hard to reconcile that, is this moving in a positive direction or a worse direction? I think no one here would argue that

going outside would be a better answer to this, but is it better than not at all? And would that be, it's like, hey, one of our, how about this, one of our favorite partners and tools that we use is BrainFM. And what is it, it's like, makes all these artificial outside sounds of like nature and the ocean, and we're like, I'd probably be way better off

by getting outside and hearing all that, right? At night. You know what, along those lines, they're not trying to simulate what you get from outside. They're literally hacking into Getting your brain to change its its its brain waves They've fine-tuned it for sure But it's point like when we're at near the beach and you're hearing the waves constantly crashing you have the windows up and yeah Your sleep's amazing. I mean this but you know, they've hacked into that and then now we're able to well

I remember I remember what could you so I always got into a fight with Katrina over this. We're out at sanctuary, okay, where you're on the beach, waves are crashing. Okay. One of my favorite things to do when I'm there is to sleep with everything wide open because it is so close to the water all night long. You hear loud crashing waves. It is the most peaceful, relaxing place for me.

And she's running fucking Brain FM for Max. And I'm like, are you, are you kidding me right now? Like it does not get any better than this right here. You know what though, sometimes you don't have access though. Like that time we're on that plane flight, I told you guys about where I was scared shitless. I can't listen to this. Right.

I put it on and it saved my life. Obviously that's what I meant, but that was why I brought that as an example, right? It's like, we should really have been listening to the waves crashing in that situation because I'm on the ocean. But there's gonna be other situations where you don't even have access to that.

And hey, that's a great alternative is that we've learned, science has figured this out, how you can hack into that, give you that similar, maybe not as good, but similar, peaceful, relaxing, calming state. So it makes sense in that situation. Like protein powder, protein powder, would never tell someone to always eat that but hey, in a pinch, in a bind, it's better than not

or choosing something else. And so, I mean, I kind of feel like that's like that. Sure, sure. Well, you know, it's funny with sounds too. Sounds are interesting with how some sounds relax people because they are used to those sounds. Like my dad, he sleeps really well when he goes to Sicily. So where he lives in Sicily is not quiet.

Hearing traffic. It is not quiet, okay? It's loud. Everybody's got their windows open. You can hear the neighbors yelling at each other. They call that brown, they call that some kind of noise. Like there's a term for that because it's like the, yeah, it is brown noise.

And that was like the traffic noise and all that. It's all like, it is common. Bro, you you hear cars you hear people across the street because their windows are open at 5 a.m the guy's walking through the streets yelling that he's got fish for sale and whatever my dad's always like oh you know that all that that highlights what we always talk about which we are these just adaptation machines yeah you know, and that's the body's brilliant ability to adapt to its environment. It recognizes that like I hear this every single day. You know my wife used to sleep with the TV on?

And that's how she would sleep? With the TV on all night. I have friends that I went to school with. I remember when I used to spend the night at his house because he listened to the radio. He slept to music. Yeah, music playing in his room, just real light, but music, radio station playing all night.

I'm like, thanks. Even with commercials? You sleep to this, yeah, music playing in his room, just real light, but music, radio station playing all night. I'm like, that's- You go to commercials? Huh. You sleep to this, bro? Yeah, that's a little weird. Yeah, but I mean, you obviously, at some point in your life, adapted to that, and then it's now got to a place where it's very common.

Speaking of sounds and stuff, you wrote up there Beethoven- Just gonna transfer to this, yes. Can I hear, I wanna hear this. You didn't even let him transition. Things that science figured out. You didn't even believe in your transition abilities, bro. You didn't even believe in your transition abilities.

He didn't, it's fine. I was gonna bring up a joke. We're talking sound and music. You gave me a softball. You're just gonna possibly get to Beethoven right here. No, you're clunky, you know. Here's an easy one. Yeah, bro. I appreciate that.

You're welcome. Yeah, no, so Beethoven, there's, okay, so you know how he was deaf, right? He gradually became deaf. Well, they think they know why now. Based off of testing his hair samples, they found that there was traces like lead poisoning. And so, over the years- That was common.

Yeah. So, it was real bad to where it affected his, uh, him neurologically somehow, which then affected his hearing, which is crazy. That. So that's a potential possibility of lead. Oh, man. You know, the term mad hatter comes from, you guys ever heard that mad hatter? Well, did you, you know, Shane Gillis is a standup where he talks about George

Washington and his teeth. Did you hear that? Remember that part? Oh, you talking about how you had like lead teeth and that, like back then people used to have like lead in your mouth and do all kinds of crazy shit like that. So, Mad Hatter, you means you're literally crazy, right? I think Alice in Wonderland. Yes, that's Mad Hatter.

So, Mad Hatter is because they use lead to form the rims of the hats. And so, people who made hats would handle lead all the time and people noticed that a lot of them were crazy. Dude, lead and mercury, like they used to be like commonly used for stuff. Did you know, did you know there's these, there are these really, I forgot their names are these economists that are really good at statistics. So they could take numbers and start to find correlations and gasoline used to be leaded.

And they, there was like this huge push. It was IQ. Yes. There was this huge push to remove lead from gas because these environmentalists were like, this is not good for us. The government's like, nah, it's fine. And they went and pulled up samples from the ocean and lakes were like, no, lead is getting in our water.

It's pervasive, yeah. They eventually got rid of leaded gasoline and they can connect that to a rising of IQ and a decline in crime because of unleaded gasoline. That's a crazy correlation. No, look it up, maybe Doug. Yeah, I know, but you could also, like, every. No, lead will do that to you.

It'll literally make you more violent, and it makes you dumber. You know what's funny though, when they were like. That's such a correlation thing though, you know? Testing his hair, I was certain that it was gonna be syphilis. Oh.

Because back in the day, they used to all have those wigs to hide the fact that. That they lost their hair for syphilis. Feels very carbon dating in the day they still have those wigs to hide the fact that they lost their hair. Their hair is syphilis. It feels very carbon dating-esque to me. No, it's real. It's very carbon dating-esque to me.

Yeah. Look at his hair. I'll tell you everything about his life. Weak science. Yeah. That's always such a dick. Well, then Sal's over here. I mean, that's like- No, Led will make you- Barry Bonds, every time he had a home run, there was a lightning storm in Oklahoma. So, so lightning storms in Oklahoma.

String theory, dude. Pull up the studies, Doug. Pull up the studies. So there was a report published by the United Nations news center, uh, says that reading the world of leaded petrol resulted in 2.4 trillion in annual benefits, 1.2 million fewer premature deaths, higher overall intelligence, and 58 million fewer crimes. So. A partridge in a pear tree. Yeah. So there you go.

I don't know if I trust them anymore though, unfortunately. Yeah. They said a few things. There's other factors, right? Okay. Yeah. Maybe that was one of them, you know?

Didn't they really put lead in pencils? That was usually, that's what they did, right? Early days. Not graphite. Yeah, before graphite. But that was one of them. Yeah. They really put lead in pencils. That was, that was usually, that's what they did. Right. It really is not graphite. You have a four graphite. It was actually, and then the mercury in your teeth, obviously, you know, if you get those removed paint to like, you know, and they paint toys for kids, toys that's messed up. They put it in their mouth and yeah, that mess people.

What are we doing today? That's really bad. What are we doing today? Yeah. Oh, plastics. I'll say it all day long. Yeah, microplastics. Yeah. Plastics, micro. What are we doing today? Yeah, yeah. Oh, plastics. Yeah, microplastics, yeah. Oh, plastics, microplastics, the kind of, the Xenoestrogens. One day we're gonna look back and be like, oh shit. The one with the frogs.

The one with the frogs. Warn us about. K frogs. Yeah, whatever, chemical lattice. What's their divorce rate? I think K frogs. Hey, what was the name of the guy who was just on Joe Rogan that, like,

what you were listening to? Yeah, Terrence Howard. Terrence Howard. Man, that's a, he Man, that's an incredibly fascinating interview. He sounds a little man. He does. And in the beginning doesn't help him. Like it's very, like he, I think he was a little bit nervous because he's got a lot to explain, you know, with his theories. But like, dude, 91 something patents. Like the guy is very Paul Cech. Definitely. Yeah. Like he's, he's a very like special mind. Do you guys know what it requires to get a patent?

Not much. Yeah, I've gone through it, trust me. Oh, okay. I do, I vividly know what it requires. You're the one with the patent in here, aren't you? Yeah. You don't have a patent, do you? No.

Yeah, right. No, no. Yeah, I mean, it's not like- I don't have an inventor bone in my body. Yeah, it's not like scientifically sound, like body. Yeah, it's not it's not like scientifically sound like, you know They didn't like back check. I think you just have to make something and then they have to say, okay cool Nobody's done this before you can patent it right basically. Okay, basically that's the you ever seen the mousetrap the the with the gun It's an actual patent. Have you seen it?

Mouse trap with a gun. Look up handgun mousetrap. It's a real US patent. I don't know It's the most American patent. I don't know. It's the most American patent I've ever seen in my entire life. I want Doug to pull up a picture. We can play the patent game. Is it supposed to be a mousetrap that shoots the mouse?

Is that what it's supposed to do? Yes, dude. It's literally a revolver. So it's like, this is gonna take off one day. Yeah. Somebody patented it, dude. This is gonna take, oh, God. For sure it was an American.

There's one, have you seen the suitcase that's like the anti-theft suitcase? Oh, and they had it like spikes just come out of it. Oh my god. See, the rat goes to eat. 1882 on August 21st, a man by the name of James Alexander Williams from San Saba County, Texas was filed a U.S. patent number 269766 for a mousetrap incorporating a handgun by which animal who

burrows in the ground can be deleted from existence. Is it patents or trademarks that have an expiration date? Both. I think they both do. Oh, they both do. Yeah, so I don't know the exact laws behind it. I believe it's a hundred years. Yeah, for example, like Mickey Mouse, for example,

is going into the Creative Commons or whatever they call it at some point. That's the original Mickey, by the way. I wonder if you have, I would imagine if you're the company and you're still going like Disney, you would have the first right to refusal. You would think so, you'd think so. I don't know what the laws are.

I think it expires and that's it after a while. I know with drugs there's a certain period of time and then they go generic. So you have a patent. What are we gonna do, and we're experiencing this right now, right, with like the new company that we're creating right now and you can't find any names.com.

Like, we're like, give it another. When you get these drug companies, they literally smash words together and bits. Like what do you, what do you do with every, every real word in the dictionary is attached to a.com. And like, you know what they do with phone numbers because of that for a while, like everybody, you know, there's phone numbers, everybody had phone numbers.

And then they're like, shit, we're running out of numbers. So for the first time ever, it wasn't that long ago. I want to say in the last 15 years, they started to incorporate 666 as a starting phone number, but the reason why they didn't do it before, because nobody wanted a phone number. Nobody was going to do it. And started with 666.

That's on the table. Is that true? I didn't know that. Yeah. Oh, that's a mean. I might have made it up. He may have made that up, yeah. He may have. Sometimes I think I know something.

Yeah. And then I go, do I really know that? Or was that one of those? I don't know. Did you guys know a 666 number? Only use in your own hieroglyphics. Well, 555 was always fake too, remember? It's still fake. 555 is always what they use for the movies. Yeah, I know. That's never a number.

Yeah, it's never a number. So why not go 555 first? Well, because then, then maybe movies now have a porn number. It's so stupid. So there was a town in Louisiana that had 666 as their area code. I can tell so many people. It burned down. It went up in flames. Very strange. So many people complained. They got rid of it. The town is... Oh Burned down? Yeah. That's strange. It went up in flames. Very strange. So many people complained they got rid of it. The town is...

Oh wow, really? Yeah. See? You guys know that I still have the same... I've only had one phone number in my entire life. Really? What is it? I'm 40 something.

I'm not gonna tell you my number. You're kidding. Put it on air. Yeah. I think that was the best prank ever Kevin Hart did with... What's his face? Nick Cannon. Yeah, Nick Cannon put his phone number on a billboard.

That's so great. I so would fuck with you guys. Oh, I would so do that. I like that. That's a great prank. Because it just reminded me, because he brought up the alpaca and he gave him the alpaca. Yeah, yeah.

This is like the joke. There's this guy breaking down. I was trying to figure out what this new hairstyle trend, like my son has. It's like an alpaca. They're all freaking alpacas. That's what it looks like. And I was like, this guy's onto something.

Seriously, different kinds of alpacas, how their hair is just matted. OK, OK, where is the age cut off for things like that? For weird haircuts? Yeah. Oh, god. Early 20s. 30?

Early 20s. 30. Once you get into college, you should be pass 30 early 20s 30 Early 20s come on, but you still be doing mid 20s. You got to stop by that time, bro Really? Yeah, you got to make it look kind of silly right if you're 27 year old dude I think I think 29 I think right before 30 29 year old dude, and you got a moly go extreme. Yeah, dude get out your system So you so 30 what about dressing? So when does that change? So go extreme, dude, get out of your system. So 30, yeah. What about dressing? So when does that change?

So when can you not dress like what's hip? Like a kid? Yeah, yeah. Well, for you, it was like 40. It was 40. 40. It's 40. 40 is it?

You can still wear it. You can still wear it. I remember reading an article. It's actually what got me. It starts to get sad. What's the graph of when it starts getting sad? It's 40 what got me. That's the L Pack. It starts to get set. What's the graph of when it starts getting sad? It's 40. So 30.

So for a car, I actually am trying to talk to my cousin, who's getting up in age now, too. He's getting in his late 30s. And I'm like trying to tell him, hey, bro, you can't dress like this anymore. You can't have big old oversized baggy basketball shorts and all kinds of logo t-shirts and crazy shoes. You can't do that.

So the rule is, OK, the fashion rule, when you're 40, once you hit 40, is solids. You can still wear wild shoes, fun shoes, okay? But that's all you can have. How wild? Well, I mean, like I have some pretty crazy, like, you know, bright colored shoes. You get a pass though, cause they're expensive. Well, yeah.

You don't buy wild, you just buy, you have to, you buy wild shoes, but your backup's always like, but they're worth. Yeah, more than your outfit, guys. All right, I'm like, all right, I guess you're fine. It's an investment. Everything he does, everything Adam does is an investment. Yeah, yeah. You guys back it up.

Yeah, yeah, I will. It's like a stock market. You're not gonna justify it. I will justify it. You ain't gonna sell your shoes, bro, shut up. I know, I know, I'm not gonna sell my shoes, you're right. But no, so yeah, that's the rule, is that we could wear the kind of fun wild shoes, right,

but then everything else has to be solids. And so that's what you can't do both. You can't have, which I was still, I started to pass that where I was like, I still had some. I used to do that with hats. I would do like a wild, ugly hat or something, but the rest of me is normal.

Yeah, when you're young, you could do all those things. There becomes a time. And I think haircuts, this is my opinion. So we can start a thing on the forum or the Instagram thread, right? My thing is, I think 29, you gotta have, you gotta do more of a traditional, you gotta do more tradition. Yeah. Grown up haircut. And then you get all the way to your table, like the lightning light 30s dress. You can dress still young.

Who had a flat top in here? I guarantee you did for sure. Yeah. He still has kind of offenders and everything. It was like a grownup flat. I'm going over there. You had the legit memory. You remember the picture? Did you have the military one where they had a guy, a barber named less less the bar? Hey, you for sure carried one of those things around in your back pocket too. Yes, you do. I pointed to it though. I was like, the comes and stick your finger through and then you, you, and you have your, did you do the chain wallet? Yeah. You did a chain. Well, the chain wallet guy. Wow. For sure. I was full on rockabilly. I had flame shoes.

What? I had Doc Martens that were like flame. Doc Martens too? Yeah. No way. I was the face. You know, like I totally went through that. You know what shoes I wore when I was a teenager?

These ones. I swear to God. For real? I swear to God. Wow. I wore the same one. Well, I mean, you do have a good strategy. If you just wait long enough,

you'll be out of style for like 20 years, but come 30 years That was me with flannels forever and it's like I don't I don't try to meet the times I wait till the time I feel like people that listen to early early the early episodes There's like I don't know why Adam only be picking on Sal. I feel like he's in style. Yeah, that was 10 years ago Finally came in the style Once we got sponsored by Dora. His shit finally came into style. You know what I'm saying? Until it was.

He's been out of style for 30 years. Well, once we got sponsored by nice clothing companies, now they send me clothes. Yeah, they saved you. I'm totally safe. Anyway, I gotta bring this up. We're supposed to talk about mphormones.com. I did not know that our partners there

offered IGF-1 peptide. Do you guys know that? I didn't know that. Yeah, I didn't know that. I asked them when I was out there, and they have 31 or 39 that I'm like, oh my God, I need to learn about all these. I didn't know we had that many.

That's a great muscle building, like fat loss peptide. I mean, when you take growth hormone, you're trying to raise your IGF-1, that's what you're trying to do. Yeah. So this is, and I wonder how effective it is in comparison to the growth hormone releasing peptides. Right.

Like the testosterone and those other ones. But I think this one's the IGF, it's LGF1LR3, I think is the name of it because they, IGF1 has got such a short half life and so they made the peptide so it lasts longer. I believe that this is the favorite among the, like the body composition driven, you know, patients that they have. Like this is the one among the body composition driven patients that they have.

This is the one that they'll put them on because it's got more of the muscle building fat loss effect. So speaking of Transcend and MP hormones, there's two things. One, that I wanna bring up to the audience. One, when I went out there and we renegotiated the next contract, one of the things that we wanted

was more attention to the private forum. And so they have officially started this with the doctor. Oh, Dr. V is in there. Yes. In fact, I can read when he's going to be in there next. So you'll have a doctor in there answering questions live. I think they schedule it five times. Every Wednesday at 10.30 a.m. Eastern time.

So Dr. Richard Vana will be answering health questions. So he could answer, he's a doctor, so he can answer questions about nutrients. Oh yeah, no, he's supposed to be brilliant. Yeah, yeah, peptides, everything. So that was one of the requests. The other thing that we're going to do is. And the forum is, the MP Hormones is free.

Yeah. The forum. Yeah, so Facebook forum, MP Hormones, right? It's mind pump. Mind pump hormones. MPhormones.com is the website. And then also I took them all the stacks that you want designed. So that will be coming. So what's coming down the pipe is Sal has created like his ideal peptide stacks for whatever your goal may be, muscle building, fat loss, whatever. And so I know that they're starting to put those together specifically for our audience

and there'll be a deal for the actual bundle of peptides. So those two things are coming. This'll be a good time. And then shout out, can we talk about, do you think we'll still have some tickets left to the live event, are we gonna be good? Yeah, I think we're good. Okay, so Vegas, what's the date?

June 15th? 15th. We're gonna be in Vegas, live event, meeting listeners, fans, hanging out, it's gonna be a good time at the Bellagio. You can get tickets, hopefully they're still available when this airs, it's mindpumplive.com, is that it? Mindpumplive.com.

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Besides too heavy, that's good, that's true. Too heavy. Besides that, is they stand too upright and they'll rotate, they'll actually rotate their hands a little bit and it almost becomes like a, almost like they're doing like an upright row or a clean, and so they're getting a lot of trap involvement in the lateral. What I would do with clients is I'd have them lean forward a little bit, keep their hand flat, elbow high, and really limit the motion,

because once I go past here, I have to shrug my shoulder to get any higher. So don't shrug the shoulder, lift the elbow and lean forward a bit, and then you tend to feel it more in the side delt. Pour the milk out. That's like one of my favorite cues.

You know what's funny? PT's hate that, that we say that. I know. Because of the internal rotation, whatever, but you don't go heavy. No, you go light. You should lighten the load, pour the milk out. I think that's great for getting your side delts.

Or, another thing I love to do, because, you know, this is a, it's a small muscle that we're trying to target as it is. And we're like, this is like a sculpting type of question anyways, and so, hey, use the cables. And my, one of my favorite moves, I actually stole this from Ben Pukolsky, is laying on the ground. On your back.

Yeah, on my back. So I love to like, so imagine a free motion machine is in front of me, the two cables are the very, the very bottom, you don't even have to actually, the very bottom, I grab them and then I lay all the way back on the ground and I'm just, the floor as feedback keeps you in perfect position. Your lats are directly, your lateral delts are directly opposing the cables and so it's again light also but that's a great way to target. Another thing you could do even is you can set a bench on a very high incline and then lay face down on it so that you're laying face down and then you're doing your laterals and so leaning slightly forward

allows you to really feel the side delts even more, but this is not a heavy exercise. I see people using way too much. I'm glad you said that first Adam. People use way too much weight on this exercise. I see people using way too much, I'm glad you said that first, uh, Adam, people use way too much weight on this exercise. Like even if you're a big dude, if you're a big muscular, strong dude, you should be able to make 20 to 25 pounds feel really heavy on this exercise. I see people wearing 40s and swinging and it turns into like an upper back type movement. and it turns into like an upper back type movement. Next question is from Pajen1. To lose fat, is it all about the calorie deficit or is it all about macros?

It's going to be both. So here, so you have to eat less calories and you burn for any fat loss to occur. But the macros, there's a few, there's a couple reasons why the macros are important. Number one, if you're not getting essential proteins and fats, you can forget about any type of adaptation of the body. In other words, if you're not eating enough protein or enough fats, you're not getting the essential amino acids that you need. They're called essential because you have to consume them. Your body can't make them. And you're not getting the essential fatty acids because again, you have to consume them. You're not getting the essential fatty acids. Uh, because again, you have to consume them. I can't make building materials.

Your body will not function. In fact, you could have a high calorie diet. That's that's too low in protein and fat or one or the other or both. And you'll actually die. You'll die from a lack of essential nutrients. So that's why it's important. The second reason it's important is two equal calorie diets, one high in protein,

maybe let's say almost a gram of protein per pound of body weight versus one that is lower protein or low protein, even if it hits essential protein, the high protein version studies show results of more fat loss. It also results in more muscle gain. So they both count. It's not just about calories. People

make a mistake when they look at just calories because, and then macros also affect appetite and energy, which affects the sustainability of the diet. I mean, a question like this to me, this is a result of Instagram or social media, right? I think that you'll see these reels that go viral that won't be highlighting one of them, and then somebody will attach some study to try and back up their argument. And the truth is, they both matter. If you do not hit your protein intake, but you reduce your calories significantly,

so well below what your body needs, but you don't hit your protein intake, yeah, you'll lose fat. But you'll also lose muscle. So it'll happen that way. You'll lose 10 pounds on the scale, and five of it will be muscle and five will be fat or some ratio like that. So in that case, the protein intake absolutely matters.

Now from a trainer perspective as a coach, here's a good way to rephrase this question. What would you rather have your client focus on? Calories or macros or maybe one macro, right? I had way more success telling my clients to hit their protein targets than I did telling my clients to watch their calories across the board. Yeah.

Because high protein resulted in lower caloric intake. It's the downstream effects. Yes. Behaviorally. Yeah. Yes. Well, we also, yeah, we also understand that the, the psychological part of telling somebody they can't have

something versus telling them to go get something, right? So. Very different. Telling the client to go after hitting your protein intake, even though that's not telling them to restrict calories, it ultimately did, because most people overate on carbohydrates and saturated fats, that's how they got most

of their calories, and simply by telling them, go get protein, I need you to hit this number, on the way of doing that, they ended up actually reducing calories. And the psychological part of not telling them they can't is very powerful with their adherence. Next question is from JMBird76. What's the best peptide for just overall body soreness

and healing? Depending on the MAPS program I'm doing, I train BJJ two to three times a week and strength train three to five times. DPC, right? Yeah. Well, I'll list three peptides that I've, and I've used a lot now, because I love using things.

Vimus and too. So there's, yeah, there's three that I would say, would probably have the largest impact on body soreness, healing, recovery. Now, before I do, there is no peptide that will come close to a good diet, proper training, and recovery. Now before I do, there is no peptide that will come close to a good diet, proper training, and good sleep. Okay, so if you're getting crappy sleep

and you're trying to make up for it. Sleep's the ultimate. With peptides, you're trying to put out a house fire with a squirt gun. Squirt gun, yeah. It's just not gonna happen. But let's say you're doing all the right things and you're trying to push your body to the limit for whatever reason, and so you want an extra 5% or 10% in terms of recovery, then peptides can make a difference.

At the top category, especially if you're, let's say over the age of 35, I would put the peptides that raise growth hormone at the top. Tessa Maryland is one of them. Hyper Maryland is another one. CJ at the top. Tessa Maryland is one of them. Hyper Maryland is another one. CJC 1295 would be another one. These raise growth hormone and growth hormone in optimal ranges has a pretty good effect on recovery, on sleep, on muscle recovery and building and all that stuff. So I would put that at the top. Now underneath that would be BPC would be there and, or thymus and beta.

I love combined. So combining BPC with thymus and beta is pretty remarkable when it comes to recovery. Like if I take both those at the same time, I can increase my total training volume by 15 to 20%, literally across the board, and my body will recover just fine from those two. One of them, the BPC, speeds up the healing of connective tissue, tendons, ligaments, your joints.

It's got an anti-inflammatory effect. Thymus and beta is good for muscle recovery. So when you combine the two, you get like this kind of double whammy effect and it's an incredible stack. But if you did all three, now you're getting close to like drug-like performance enhancing effects. That's like the stack right there. If you did those three for let's say 12 or 16 weeks during a hard training cycle. You'll see some pretty significant results from that. So I mean, I hear that and I think that right away that I'm gonna try that stack in combination

with also trying to improve my sleep quality and then some sort of recovery process, whether that be doing things like cold plunges or making sure I'm getting adequate protein, right? That's gonna be another big one, right? Because that's another one I think that's missed a lot. Totally. I think that a lot of times... How many times have you had a client raise their protein and remarkable improvement? Many times I've had clients that complain about soreness and, you know, sure you

can make the case that we could probably scale back some of the volume or intensity, but many times it's just too much volume intensity for the amount of protein they're in. They're not getting enough of those building blocks and protein's so essential to your recovery, especially when you're lifting weights and training something like BJJ. So you should be hitting on the upper limits of the protein intake, not the bare minimum. And if you're not consistent with that, that can make a difference. I have to say, I bet, if I had to bet, I bet BPC 157 and thymus and beta are widely used

at high level sports at this point. Professional sports, I bet you, because you can't test for them, you can't test for BPC 157. I wonder what Aaron Rodgers did. Well, I know what he did. Yeah. Yeah, he did the stem cell.

Oh. Yeah, but he also got stacked with peptides too. Yeah, well, I mean peptides wise. Yeah, yeah, BPC was in that stack. Yeah, yeah, we know who did that. Yeah, yeah. But that, like we had Dr. Seeds on the show, he said, we had him list the top,

like what peptides would you recommend to most people? And he put BPC 157 near the top. Yeah. Yep. Next question is from Loki Rantso. People come on as live callers saying they have followed you guys for years and follow up by saying stuff like, I eat 1600 calories a day, I run 15 miles a week,

or I weigh myself every morning. Why do you think people can hear you speak all this knowledge so often and just don't get it? You know, hey, hey, hey, Hey, story of our lives, right? This is actually a really funny question because we, one of our mutual friends, his daughter for her high school, like, like, like report for her class, she's taking like a podcast class, which is so cool. They have that. They even have a podcast class.

Yeah. And she was asked, one her questions. She asked was like do you guys ever? get like content fatigue or run out of content and my answer to her was like well, no because We really talk about the same thing same thing over and over probably a thousand different ways because this is what the job was like like Very quickly in my career I found out that like I was communicating basically the same thing.

Like, but I would just find a thousand different ways to communicate that because it just hits different for every person. And so this, this podcast is no different than that. It's like, for some reason, uh, we'll say something and this has already happened to us many times in the last 10 years. We'll say something and someone's like, Oh my God, that's amazing. Or they'll make this big deal. Like it changed their life. And it's like, and they had been listening for the last eight years and we've said that a hundred times, but we didn't say it that way.

And it took, they weren't in the right space. Yeah, right. It took that way for, and at that time in their life for it to click and go, Oh my God, this is me. Otherwise they're in denial that they're who we're talking about, right? When we talk about these scenarios, they're like, right away a lot of people dismiss that as them until we describe it in such a way that they go, oh God, he's talking to me.

I'll tell you, like the way I would answer this to this person asking is like, why do you do the things you do? I mean, we're human. I mean, I could make an endless list of things that I do that I know I probably shouldn't or ways of doing it better that I choose not to, or it's just, we're human, this is what makes us complex. We're not robots, we're not machines.

It's not as easy as just inputting data and then boom, follow it. It just doesn't work that way. We're complex, psychological, emotional creatures, and we all do things that we know we shouldn't, or we all don't do things that we know that we should. It's just the human condition. It's funny. It just reminds me, cause I was at my son's, um, gymnastic term in like one of the moms like saw I was drinking a Red Bull

and was just like, I can't believe you're drinking it. That's going to eat your insides and all. Aren't you a pud? Yeah, aren't you like a health? And I'm like, yeah, but I'm also a human being. And I realize this isn't ideal, but I'm getting the caffeine I need right now, so I'm more of a pleasure to be around. Like, you don't want the other side of me.

You know, but it's just like, that's the thing. There's the human element doesn't, like we're all susceptible to the human element as well. And we're trying to balance it all with what makes sense for you individually in your lifestyle and your choices. We try to present just ways that like you can think about it and know that, you know, this is going to affect me this way. Here's how

I can just alter certain things to optimize whatever situation I'm in. Yeah. Look, in order to make big changes, you have to first be open. Yeah. You have to be very open to change, which means you have to be very humble, right? You have to look at yourself and be like, I'm doing things wrong. It's my responsibility. I'm choosing to do things wrong for these reasons. I'm open to change. Then you have to be willing to go through the pain of the so-called change. It doesn't have to be physical pain, but it sucks because the reason why you were

doing something before is because it somehow brought you comfort or it was familiar or whatever, whatever reason. So now you have to do something different and you have to go through the pain of it. And then you have to do it long enough to where it becomes second nature. That's a hard process. That's not easy. Like changing people's diets. I can get people to work out way more effectively than I can change their diets.

And it's not even easy to get people to work out way more effectively than I can change their diets and it's not even easy to get people to work out. It's just that your diet, something you deal with every single day, you've been eating a particular way for your entire life and now I'm going to tell you to eat radically different. That's a tough thing. That's a tough thing to do. I remember I would have clients that were super successful in other areas of life and they would tell me how challenging it was for them to be consistent with

their exercise and with their diet and it was so, and I remember at one point I had this like epiphany and I was like, you know, what's crazy is like, I got this part figured out, but I haven't figured out the part that you got. So like, this is like, we're all the same. It's just, I understand the workout part. I think it's just different direction. I think, I think you hit the biggest factor, which the first thing you said, which is that I think most people just the lack

the self-awareness and that are in denial that it's them. Yeah. I mean, cause that's the, that's the, the sense I get a lot of times when I talk to somebody who's like that have listened to the podcast forever, or they know the things I'm going to, they know what I'm going to say to them anyways, yet they still do that.

It's like, there's a part of them that's in denial that that's them. Yeah. You know, like, you ask them how they're eating and they're like, oh, yeah. Good, good. I eat really clean. I eat really good. What does that mean? Yeah. And then they track it and they're like You know, like, oh, that's not me. You ask them how they're eating and they're like, oh, yeah. Good, good. I eat really clean. I eat really good.

What does that mean? Yeah, and then they track it and they're like, it's like, oh, this is what you call really good. And you know, exactly, that's a great, I think most people are either unaware or in denial that they have. And a big part of that is also this, Adam, like, how many times has this happened to you where you look at something, you become self-aware, you're like, okay, and you're like, this is and you're like,

this is painful because I don't wanna do that. Even though I know it's right, I'm deciding not to. You don't wanna look at it. A lot of people don't wanna get to the point where they admit that they want to do the thing that is not good, and that's just what they're gonna choose to do. That's a hard place to be.

Yeah, I bet you, it'd be interesting, this would be really cool statistics to see, right? It's like, how long does someone listen to the podcast before they actually buy a program or actually take action towards change? Like, I bet you that there's a lot of people that listen over and over and hear the message multiple times before they actually take action

and change behaviors. Well, let me ask you guys this question. Can we speculate? Typical client. Let's think typical client here. How long would you have to train someone consistently, two days a week, before you felt like, you know, they could probably, honestly, I could probably not train them

and they'll maintain this for the rest of their life. Six months to a year? At least a year. I was going to say, yeah, two years. Yeah, or longer. I mean, I was really good, though. Yep. For that short window. That was a lot better than you guys.

All the clients are fat now. It takes, it takes, hey, to be a good trainer, it takes a long ass time, a year, two years, three years, some people longer of seeing them. We're on a podcast. We're not even, you know, really touching people or really connecting with them the same way. So bottom line is it's tough, so don't be so arrogant. It's to be like, why are they not listening? You don't listen either. That's the thing.

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