Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 2368: Training For A Half Marathon, Optimal Creatine Timing, the Best Compound Exercises & More (Listener Live Coaching)

Episode Date: June 28, 2024

In this episode of Quah (Q & A), Sal, Adam & Justin answer four Pump Head questions from the Sunday @mindpumpmedia Quah post. Mind Pump Fit Tip: The one component of health most of us miss. (1:45) ... Same-sex compliments are the most powerful. (22:09) A posterboard for Adam’s nighttime routine. (25:30) Viagra for brain health. (28:40) Missing nukes. (33:10) Crazy corruption. (37:42) The human behavior aspect of social media ‘gossip’. (41:11) The guy’s latest Vuori staples. (47:45) Celebrity/politician god complex. (50:53) Shout out to Mind Pump’s FREE 3-day training course. (56:20) #Quah question #1 - If you want to add volume to focus on building up a certain muscle, how much sense does it make to scale back on all the other muscle groups for a phase? How long would you recommend staying there before overfatiguing the target muscle? (57:27) #Quah question #2 - What's the best program for someone who typically overtrains at the gym and is about to start training for a half marathon? (1:00:56) #Quah question #3 - What are the best compound exercises? Which ones do you recommend above all else? Which ones are a waste of time? (1:03:39) #Quah question #4 - When should I take creatine? I used to stack it with my pre-workout but heard somewhere that the two fight for bio-availability so you don't get the full benefit so I switched to post-workout. Now after hearing about all the cognitive benefits, I'm considering taking it in the morning. I typically work out either at lunch or after work. When would you suggest is the optimal time to take it? (1:09:12) Related Links/Products Mentioned Visit Caldera Lab for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Promo code MINDPUMP at checkout for 20% off your first order of their best products ** Visit Vuori Clothing for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! ** No code to receive 20% off your first order. ** June Promotion: MAPS 15 Minutes | Bikini Bundle | Shredded Summer Bundle 50% off! ** Code JUNE50 at checkout ** Mind Pump #1912: The Science Of Successful Marriages & Relationships With Drs. John And Julie Gottman Will Smith And Martin Lawrence Embarrass Themselves By Claiming Men Should Sit Down When They Pee To Stop The Bathroom Becoming A Mess Viagra may help prevent dementia by boosting brain blood flow The U.S. Military Is Missing Six Nuclear Weapons Shawn Ryan Show - YouTube 'My house is being sold at auction': An emotional Kevin Spacey breaks down in interview 3 Day Mind Pump Personal Trainer Webinar Visit Seed for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Promo code 25MINDPUMP at checkout for 25% off your first month’s supply of Seed’s DS-01® Daily Synbiotic** Mind Pump #1745: How To Pack On Muscle To Your Lagging/Stubborn Body Parts Mind Pump #2350: The 4 Types Of Squats Everyone Should Be Doing Mind Pump #2357: The 7 Overhead Presses Everyone Should Be Doing Mind Pump #2362: The 4 Best Deadlifts Everyone Should Be Doing Mind Pump Podcast – YouTube Mind Pump Free Resources People Mentioned Shawn Ryan Show (@shawnryanshow) Instagram  

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Starting point is 00:01:43 discount. All right here comes the show. Look when it comes to health and fitness you probably know the following. It includes diet, exercise, and now many of us know it includes sleep. But there's one component that many of us miss. In fact the data shows this may in fact be one of the most important components when it comes to health. Especially mental health. Relationships, the relationships with the people around you. Real relationships. This is probably why anxiety and depression are on the rise. We're replacing real relationships with fake ones, ones made online. So if you are serious about your health and fitness, this has to be something that you work
Starting point is 00:02:22 towards. It takes work just like your fitness, just like your diet diet and just like your sleep. You got to pay attention to it Isn't this really just a new version of when that guy had that like Olin Mills pick of his girlfriend that lives in Canada? It's my girlfriend everybody did yeah, everybody had that friend in school that girlfriend in Canada. I types are up I think this might be one of your most underrated tips because I know you positioned it as a health thing related to like health and fitness, but I also think that it's one of the most important hacks to being successful in life. All around. It's the most like forget just, it's going to make you a healthy, better person for, uh, be having
Starting point is 00:03:06 relationships like this, just cause we're, we're social creatures. But I, I, I attribute a lot of the success that I've had in my life based off of the relationships that I've built my entire life. And, um, it's one of those slow, slow things that you do. Like, it's not like those slow, slow things that you do.
Starting point is 00:03:26 Like it's not like everybody you build a relationship with ends up being fulfilling or doesn't, you know, you of course you're gonna get some that end up, you know, every time you take a few steps forward, you take a step back on one that you probably shouldn't build a relationship with. But the benefits of seeking relationships and friendships, especially with people that are encouraging you to be a better version of yourself, whether that be through their
Starting point is 00:03:55 doing more or doing things in their life that you want to, or whether that be mentally, spiritually, physically, financially. Um, I just think that this is something that isn't talked about, uh, enough, nor is it discussed to like, how do you do that? Like it, you know, it's like, it's easy, like when to say, Oh yeah, I really should have, but it's like, believe it or not, we live in this interesting time where I've said that to someone and they're like, well, how do you do that? I know. So I was thinking a lot about this last night,
Starting point is 00:04:28 because I was looking at data that revolves around anxiety and depression, which I mean, everybody knows it's going up. It's going up, it's getting worse. It's reaching levels that we really haven't seen except for maybe during extreme war time, you know, when a lot of the population is dying in war or starving. So it's like, what is going on? And I'm looking at the, just kind of the landscape
Starting point is 00:04:52 and of course I like to compare things to the, you know, places of expertise that I have like diet and exercise. And you know, we did this with diet, right? We took food and we highlighted and then emphasized and then worshiped this kind of hedonistic pleasure you get from it and then regarded everything else or discarded everything else. And that resulted in terrible health. It's just terrible health now as a result of this. This is what we've done with relationships. We've taken the work out of relationships and just tried to make it about the dopamine hits and the likes and the comments and the texting, which the data shows this doesn't do the same thing.
Starting point is 00:05:29 Like you have a, you text somebody, I saw this for parents, by the way, when you are texting with your kid, they don't get the same serotonin, the same oxytocin. They don't get the same connection. So you're like, Hey, how you doing buddy? With the text is not the same thing as them hearing your voice. And that's not the same thing as them seeing you in person. And I thought about this like, wow, you can meet people online so easily. You could throw out a comment. You could find people that agree with you super easily.
Starting point is 00:05:59 There's no work, uh, real relationships. I mean, if I asked you guys, the most meaningful relationships you have in your lives are the ones that you put time and effort into and you prioritize them. And so I think that's why people are like, well, what does that look like? Well, I mean, it's like, well, how do I get fit?
Starting point is 00:06:16 You got to prioritize it and work on it and sacrifice certain things for the value of fitness. Relationships are the same thing. You have to make time. Like I can't have a relationship with you, but and work on it and sacrifice certain things for the value of fitness. Relationships are the same thing. You have to make time. Like I can't have a relationship with you, uh, like a good one, unless me and you spend time together, unless I sacrifice, you know, some of myself for you, for the things that you may need and vice versa, um, I, you know,
Starting point is 00:06:40 relationships, uh, help you self-reflect. Okay. Well, am I being a jerk? Why are, why am I rubbing people the wrong way? Right? Where I can go online and just forget that. I'll just find a bunch of people that blow smoke up my, you know, you know what? So, um, I, it's, it's something that is totally going downhill and what's
Starting point is 00:06:59 replacing it is ultra processed relationships, essentially. So, so especially with, you see this with kids, so the explosion of anxiety and depression is the most stark among adolescent and teenagers and people in their 20s. And what's happened is they're replacing relationships where we used to have to go out and talk and meet with people and go through all the challenges and the rejection and all that stuff, which is all part of it. And they're replacing it with online social media, video games, online with your buddies type of deal.
Starting point is 00:07:29 And the result of that is, um, you know, you're drinking sea water. It's water, but it ain't going to quench your thirst. And I mean, there's something definitely about body language that just, I think that, um, I wish there was like a huge study about this, about like how much you actually convey with somebody when you're sitting with them in a room. And it's like you're reading them, they're reading you, like you're getting real feedback
Starting point is 00:07:53 from one of your good friends. Like they're gonna be able to see like, maybe you're a little agitated, maybe you're a little depressed, maybe you have like some underlying thing that you're not gonna immediately unveil or like Uh, but spending that amount of time with it, you pick up on these things and then you're able to kind of get pure in and get a little more insight, uh,
Starting point is 00:08:14 and be able to have a more honest, authentic conversation that you can't have that just, you know, sending texts or like, you know, having, having some kind of like direct message interaction with somebody, even like video on your phone. It's just, you're just not going to have that kind of intimacy. Do you think there's an art to that? Is it a skill that can be developed? Is it innate in all of us?
Starting point is 00:08:40 Like the ability to go and build relationships like that. Because again, like the pushback I always get when I talk about something like this is the hows, like tactically, like how do you go do that? And I think it starts early, and I think the longer you wait, the more difficult it becomes.
Starting point is 00:09:03 For example, like when I have a conversation like this and I'm talking to our peer, somebody our age, and they're trying to figure this out, it's even harder for the 40 year old to go do this than it is the 15 year old, right? 15 year old, it's really simple to, it's- I'd say even men too. Well yeah, because, and what ends up happening too a lot of times is these are other entrepreneurs
Starting point is 00:09:27 that are trying to build a business, they understand the value of networking and building relationships, and so they decide, hey, I've waited 40 years, I'm finally going to go try and do this. And then they obviously want to become friends with these influential or powerful or great people. And the unfortunate part is by that time, that person, especially if they're powerful, influential, they have already a lot of friends in their circle. And here you are, you've decided like,
Starting point is 00:09:53 oh, I finally get it. It's important to have relationships and build these and so that I'm gonna try and insert myself into that or build that relationship. And they get lost on like how to do that. I think it's both, I think it's both. Of course there's gonna be people who are more gifted naturally at building relationships with people
Starting point is 00:10:12 and being vulnerable, I think that's a big part of it. But then it's a skill. Like if you, if any of us in this room, and I consider all of us pretty social, I would say, if all of us grew up isolated our entire lives and then you were just put out, uh, you know, at our age now, you would be awkward and weird and afraid. And I don't know what or who or so it's a skill and it takes work. It takes work because I'll give you an example.
Starting point is 00:10:38 Like I have, I have, I've got kids, right? So I'm a dad, I got two little kids, two teenage kids. And getting out of the house, meeting with other people, inviting people over, it's a pain in the ass. You got to get the little ones together. You got all the kinds of stuff. I mean, for people, little kids, it's like, it's ridiculous. When you first have a kid, you're like, where are we going? We're going to someone's house. Why am I taking 15 bags? Especially if you spend the night somewhere,
Starting point is 00:11:03 you can't believe how much stuff you have to take. It's just a pain in the butt and the kids don't want to go, then you got your teenagers, they roll their eyes, they just want to stay home, whatever. Then you finally get there and then you hang out, whatever. Then you clean things up, get home, get the kids to bed. And so it's easy for you to be like, you know, let's just not, let's just not go.
Starting point is 00:11:21 Let's just not do that thing. And everything in the world now is geared towards taking all of that away. Like I can order food. I can watch endless amounts of entertainment. I can just text somebody. Um, I can isolate myself pretty effectively and get all the stuff that I think that I need. Whereas in the past, I think it was just baked into society.
Starting point is 00:11:42 Oh, we got to go to the grocery store. Got to go. And then I'm going to see the butcher and the person that I know. And there's my neighbor outside and whatever. So it takes work and you have to do it. And it is a pain in the butt, but it's so worth it. And if you don't do it, it's like, we talked about this in an earlier podcast. I think it's a slow boil.
Starting point is 00:11:59 Before you know it, you're isolated. You're not making lots of connections. You're not, you don't have good relationships, especially for kids now. It's like so hard for kids now because I know you made the argument it's harder for, you know, it could be hard for a grown man. You know kids naturally are self-conscious, insecure, afraid of rejection. Like I'm not, everybody's afraid of rejection, but you know 45 year old me, like if I go talk to someone they they reject me, I'm like, whatever, it doesn't ruin my fricking week, right? You know, 14 year old me, you know, that might ruin my week.
Starting point is 00:12:30 I go talk to a girl or someone or some dude says something to me and I kind of feel insecure. But now when we were kids, we took, we took this for granted. You're at home, you got nothing to do. There's literally nothing to do. So I have to go outside. I have to meet with people. I got to take the risk of being rejected.
Starting point is 00:12:47 I got to go talk to that girl. I got to go try and hang out with that group of guys over there and figure that out. But you learn these skills and you build relationships and it's made the world, just again, I've made this point before, the world is so well organized to keep you unhealthy. It's insane.
Starting point is 00:13:03 Like if you follow the world, you'll be fat, you'll be depressed, you'll be anxious, you'll have poor spiritual health because everything's geared around removing those things. Like it's like, here's your easy food, here, sit down all day long. Here, you don't need to go talk to people. You don't, in fact, you can have it sent to you.
Starting point is 00:13:20 You don't need to connect with anybody. You don't need to suffer rejection. You want to date people here. Here's a dating app you could swipe back and forth through endless amounts of people or whatever. And so what we're suffering from, it became very clear to me last night. I looked at this and said, oh my God, this is all the result of people not having relationships.
Starting point is 00:13:37 All this anxiety and depression that people are experiencing is because we're replacing it with heavily processed relationships, fake garbage. And what that means is, okay, just like today, right? You go to my grandfather's generation. If I went back in time, in fact, I was hanging out with my grandma last night and I was having great conversations with her. She's 87 years old. And it's so funny, like if I went back then and I told people,
Starting point is 00:14:01 you need to go be active, they'd be like, what are you talking about? I am active all day. I go and I go up into the hills and I go farm and then I gotta wash clothes, my hands or whatever. Today you have to make time to be active. It's just the way the world is designed. Today you have to make time to build relationships because it won't happen naturally.
Starting point is 00:14:19 It's just not. So what are some of the common mistakes that you see people make that hear your point, that want that, but struggle to do that, right? So it's like, okay, I've got the time. I'm allotting four hours, like what are the mistakes? Because this is what I keep hearing when I- I can tell you what my mistakes were or are.
Starting point is 00:14:42 Giving up too early. So like, we go to church every Sunday now, but it's only been about maybe five months of consistency. The first three months, I definitely get a lot of spiritual value out of going. Okay. Don't get me wrong, but it's a pain. It was a pain in the butt.
Starting point is 00:14:59 I got two little kids. They don't want to sit through the thing. Got to walk outside with them. It's like, get them up early. Then we get home, Oh, baby fell asleep in the car, ruined a nap. And so for the first three months, it was like work, work, work, work, work. But then you get better at it. You start making friends there.
Starting point is 00:15:14 And now it's, but I could very easily let that make me go, you know what, let's just watch it on the TV. Let's watch it online. Let's not go. I can only imagine how many people go out and try and then they give up early. You know, it's just too hard, it's not working. That's what I, that's at least what happened to me.
Starting point is 00:15:30 Do you have any common ones for? I mean, I think, I think we're interesting creatures how when sometimes you, and I see this with people that I think just lack social awareness, like nobody cares how much you know until they know how much you care. So I just think that's such a really powerful quote because when you get to know somebody,
Starting point is 00:15:50 if you are trying to quote unquote build a relationship with them, and your way of doing that is talking about yourself and you know what I'm saying, whether that be bragging or just talking about your day and your things like that, it's like to me, like one of the quickest ways to not build a relationship with somebody.
Starting point is 00:16:10 I mean, how many times have you met somebody like that where you meet them and then like, don't you feel like they're trying to like sell themselves? Yeah, that's what I, exactly. Hang out with me. And I think this is, I think this is a common mistake. I think. I'm comfortable doing that too.
Starting point is 00:16:22 I think that people are like, okay, I'm gonna go go, I'm going to go try and meet this Justin guy. He seems really cool. I'm going to go over and I introduce myself. And then like, I go right into like selling myself. Bro, it took me a year to get Justin to like me. At least a year before he started liking me. But you know what I'm saying? Like they go into it with this like, like they're presenting or like versus just asking about the other person. Be curious. And yes. And so I used to teach this with my trainers, right?
Starting point is 00:16:51 So all of what we're talking about also plays right into effective communication slash sales. Right. And so I was challenged with this conversation a lot. So I've spoken about this a ton to coaches and trainers, trying to get them to be more social, to build relations, to do that.
Starting point is 00:17:09 And what I had distilled it down to was this like very basic thing that I had them do, which was like they carried these little journals around and I'd say, hey, listen, your goal today is to meet five people and learn one to two things about them. Like instead of, I had to break it all the way down to that because trying to like talk about different types of closing skills and leading them to a sale and oh boy that was just way too much. It's like oh my god we have to start at the very beginning here like how do you talk to people? Like how do you meet people? How
Starting point is 00:17:41 do you get somebody to even like you? Like and what it looked like was here, this is what we're gonna start out. All I want you to do is this, is go meet, go get five names. Of those five names, learn one or two facts about them. Walk away. Don't over talk. I don't want you fucking talking to them for 10-15 minutes. You don't have that skill yet. Like literally this is your job. And what they would do is they'd go do that. They'd learn one or two things. They say, okay, now when you see Susan in the gym again, go ask her about her tennis lessons, how they went last week and that's it.
Starting point is 00:18:15 And then we've come back. That's work. Yeah. It's what I got to say. I got to say it's knowing what I know of you guys. I bet I could tell you and if I'm, if I'm wrong, let me know. But I think I could predict the things that made you guys, both you guys, good at meeting people and developing
Starting point is 00:18:30 relationships, things that happened in your life. I know what happened for me, which was just to have a big family. I have a huge family. And so it's like baked into how I grew up, right? But I just in probably sports. And then when you moved away, right? When you left for college, because you were
Starting point is 00:18:44 forced to figure it out. That's it. Yeah. I was, I put myself in that environment where I had to work my way through it. And that's kind of, I guess for me personally, that's kind of what I've done in any aspect where I'm like, I need to grow here. And so I had to like, just immerse myself, just jump in. Same thing when I came back out here and like trying to figure out like, how can I do this for a living? How can I be a personal trainer?
Starting point is 00:19:11 I have to get better at this small talk thing. Like I just, my go-to is like, I just don't care. Like I don't really care about all this like surface stuff. Like I had friends, but they were like really good friends. And there was like maybe like a ham, there's like five people I could say. Usually I like running around with like maybe two other guys and we'd have like a group of three Pretty much like what we do here. It's like been sort of the recipe for me And I'm very social but at the same time might sort of my go-to is to be kind of
Starting point is 00:19:41 Introverted and like you do your thing. I'll do my thing Now when you moved off to Chicago you had to move out of that though, cause you didn't have anybody over there, right? Nobody. So what'd you do? Did you just go put yourself into new groups and. Yeah. I mean, it helped being in on a team, obviously, because it's like, we're
Starting point is 00:19:55 all kind of working towards a goal together. We're working out together. We're interacting together. Hey, what are you doing tonight for dinner? Like that kind of thing. So it was a little bit easier of a transition for me, but it was still like, I had to build a relationship one person at a time.
Starting point is 00:20:12 And like, by the time I left college, you know, I had like 50, you know, 100 something friends of just like, you know, really good friends. But then I left, came back here, and it's like I had four friends again. Yeah, And then Adam, for you, you moved around a lot. Yeah. You had to figure it out. Yeah. To start over. Yeah. Many times as a kid. Yeah. Imagine if, how, imagine if it was super easy for you guys in those situations to not, you know what I mean? Yeah. Where you just didn't have to. Yeah. You know, it's an interesting exercise to think like,
Starting point is 00:20:40 man, what if I had iPhones, you know, back when I was like, it's so scary to go out in a new neighborhood. Brand new kid in a new school in a new town. And it's like, especially if you get picked on or bullied. Yeah, you know, I don't know. It's, it's, it's be interesting to see. It's like, obviously it's really easy for me to say,
Starting point is 00:20:57 like I know how it went out. It played out for me, but what if, what if I had this powerful iPhone tool that I could easily have just immersed myself in and distracted myself from it? I don't know. I think I always craved a social connection. I was the kid who, my sister and I who are a year apart, when my parents used to ground
Starting point is 00:21:15 us if we were in trouble for whatever, my sister would get the same ground. We both, oh, you're grounded to your room today. You can't do anything. You can't play. My sister would be fine. she'd play with her dolls all day long and she'd look happier in her room, doing that, where it was torturous for me. To hear kids playing outside and I had to be in my room,
Starting point is 00:21:34 I mean, I would cry and just, I would throw a fit because it was just torturous. So I think I had a natural craving for social connection. I could have very easily isolate because I love to read, love to read, I could immerse myself in a subject but I had such a big family that was always around that that is what helped me you know develop but I would be the kid now if I had the internet where it'd be very easy for me to just learn by myself and not go out and meet people, because I could see that in myself,
Starting point is 00:22:07 but because of my family again. But I gotta tell you guys, speaking of social or whatever, I got the, young men today are pretty comfortable saying things, I never would have been as comfortable saying to men when I was younger. I had a guy come up to me,
Starting point is 00:22:24 literally, young dude, probably in his 20s, and he goes, man, he goes, I gotta tell you, bro, you look great. I'm like, what? And he goes, and then he follows it up with even more strangeness. You have really good skin. And I said, okay, thank you, I appreciate that.
Starting point is 00:22:40 And then he walked off and I texted my wife, and I'm like, I just had a dude. Should we hug now? No, I said, I just had a dude tell me I have really texted my wife and I'm like, I just had a dude. Should we like hug now? No, I said I just had a dude tell me I have really nice skin and she's like, did you sell him caldera? I'm like, oh, I got taken off guard. So I wonder though if that's why though, I wonder if someone's seen you in a skin commercial
Starting point is 00:22:59 and then they say, that's their way of saying that. So I have a follow-up. So I texted my wife and she goes, and so she said that, what if he's a fan of the show? Yeah. He's like, whatever. Right. Cause I'm like, that's weird. Right.
Starting point is 00:23:10 Who would do that? So I went up to him afterwards. I'm like, do you listen to podcasts? And he goes, yeah, I do. And I'm like, have you heard of mine? He goes, no, what's it called? My podcast. It was a genuine compliment on my skin.
Starting point is 00:23:22 So I did tell him, yeah, well, we work with a company called Caldera, blah, blah, blah, and sent him the link and the whole deal. But I had a guy compliment me on my skin, dude. I don't know. Now he was there with his buddy. And he didn't even eat mushrooms and see you in your gold. That was you, too. Beauty.
Starting point is 00:23:38 That's my favorite story. You're so regal. He said I look like a trophy. I think same sex compliments are the most powerful. And I believe this is true for both men and women, right? Like a woman to compliment another woman. You're more likely to believe it, right? I think that's what it, right?
Starting point is 00:23:54 Or there's less likely a motive or an agenda underneath there, right? I think if a girl gets a compliment from a guy, it's just like, oh, he's hitting on me. Yeah, he's hitting on me. That's what he wants or what not. But if another girl compliments a girl, it's like. Hey, that's the big myth, by the way, for dudes It's just like, Oh, he's hitting on me. That's what he wants. We're with that. But if another girl compliments, Hey, that's the big myth by the way, for dudes when they're like, Oh,
Starting point is 00:24:08 I'm going to lift weights so that girls will say things. 99% of time dudes are going to say, so in that, okay, don't you find that interesting that, okay, that I think that's a really funny thing to talk about. Cause it's so true. And there's, I don't know any, but any guy who actually doesn't know that, like if, if especially if you've been doing it long enough, yet we still drive or we still tell ourselves that we're doing it for the girls. So what is that?
Starting point is 00:24:30 Like it's like, you know that, you know what I'm saying? You know it's like, it's not getting anymore the girls for you, especially once you reach the level of fitness, like the difference of your 17 inch arms or 18 inch arms is not, it's not, it's- It's like 8% to 4% of the fitness. Yeah. Yeah. It's like, I mean, I definitely, and I, cause I know there's girls are listening like, uh,
Starting point is 00:24:49 absolutely matters to me. Like, well, no, I'm not talking about like, of course most women prefer a fit healthy guy. I think that there's, there's plenty of research to prove that compliments in the comments, but the difference guys, exactly. The difference of you sculpting your physique and getting it to it. You look jacked. You get some size in your arms and you get like, you know, a compliment from a girl. She'll be like, oh wow, you look really skinny and lean and trim. Oh, I hate that.
Starting point is 00:25:13 And I'm like, no. I hate that too. I'm going to go eat a burger. When you get lean and a girl, like a coworker or a friend will say, wow, you look skinny. Like, it's like it's a compliment. Lean is the word, lean. Trying to be nice. Yeah, not skinny.
Starting point is 00:25:29 But yeah, dudes will definitely say, speaking of dudes, Adam, you, so you've always tried to make the case, we've talked about this several times in the podcast, we don't have to like dwell on it. I still think it's strange. I still think it's strange. And on my deathbed, I will bring this up and laugh about it.
Starting point is 00:25:42 You're like, listen, men should sit on the toilet when they pee because it's so much more, less likely to get the toilet wet. Well now you have a poster board guy for your movement. Will Smith made the same comment. I saw that. It's totally not connected to the fact that he's kind of a weird.
Starting point is 00:25:59 Yeah, I don't know how much I wanna be, I mean the guy's a cuck, right? I'm not a big fan of, I don't know if I wanna be to be. That's your poster child. I'm the guy that's a cuck, right? I'm not a big fan of a, I don't know if I want to be put in the same category as Will Smith. Did you see the comment I do at the forum? I did, I saw that. Somebody posted.
Starting point is 00:26:11 Of all the people to give me, you know, to back me up on that. And by the way, we're starting to mold this into, Adam says sit down and pee all the time. That's not what I said. This is at night, okay? In the middle of the night when you get up and go to the restroom. We're taking a minute of contact. I do not sit down and pee every time I have to pee. No, is at night, okay, in the middle of the night when you get up and go to the restroom I do not sit down and pee every time I have to pee.
Starting point is 00:26:29 Somehow it's morphing into that and it's like... When the lights are off and you can't see the toilet. Yes. So basically when no one sees what you're doing, this is how you want to be. Well, it's not about people seeing you. I'm just kidding. It's about the fact that people are spraying the toilet seat. Dug to the same teeth.
Starting point is 00:26:44 It's like, oh... You need a UFC fighter, you UFC fighter to be your billboard. Yeah. Then you'll be all right. When the lights are off, you know when you've hit the toilet, when the water, you hear it hit the water. But before then, it's hitting the edge. I love that Doug's becoming as passionate about this as I am.
Starting point is 00:26:58 I'm very passionate about this. Because he's getting tired of walking in our restroom and seeing piss all over the toilet. Yeah, there's piss on the toilet. And he knows damn well it's not Adam, because he's like, Adam walking in our restroom and seeing piss all over the toilet. Yeah, there's piss on the toilet. And he knows damn well that's not Adam, because he's like, Adam's courtesy enough to actually go sit down. Sit down, it's quite.
Starting point is 00:27:11 It's definitely not Adam. It's either Justin or Sal that are blindly pissing all over. We're just like this. We know who it is. Oh, oh. Oh, oh. Listen. I'm convinced one of you two pisses like that.
Starting point is 00:27:23 I have no idea. Or you guys are on the phone doing something else at the same time. But my comment in the forum was hilarious because it's Will Smith's quote, like, you know, men should sit down when they pee. Like that's his favorite position when he's watching his wife have sex with other men.
Starting point is 00:27:35 Oh God. People are tired. Oh my God. Oh my God. Yeah, of all the people, I'm like, oh, that's great. Yes. No, I've seen more and more actually popping up. I get tagged all the time. I don't obviously don't share it with you guys all the people. I'm like, oh, that's great. Yes. No, I've seen more and more actually popping up. I get tagged all the time.
Starting point is 00:27:46 I obviously don't share it with you guys all the time, but there's a lot of people now saying that. But it's like, I don't know where. It just came for me. I know that, I mean, at one point, I was clinging in. Listen, your logic makes it's logical. It is logical. But we don't always have to do what's logical sometimes.
Starting point is 00:28:03 I mean, I'm also this guy. And I bet you guys aren't this guy either like if I when I'm at in in the daytime in the public here or any of the restroom I If I even dribble on the rim, I wipe it off with toilet paper and flush. Oh, I clean it Yeah, I clean I clean whatever Somebody is lying in here for sure. There's other guys in this building. Well, listen, sometimes Justin and I are like, let's see you can stand the furthest and make it in. Yeah. That's all funny James. It's more of a competition thing. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:28:35 Yeah, yeah. It's good stuff. Speaking of, speaking of lonely nights. Casualties happen. Adam, you shared an article with me that's interesting. Viagra has been connected with better outcomes for people with dementia and Alzheimer's. Now is the obvious reason, the reason like it's just better blood flow, better blood flow is going to create better blood flow to the brain, part of what that's, part of the problem with dementia is that? Yes, yes. So it's pretty straightforward. Here's what they find. So this is according to the study by I think Oxford did the study It said that people who took the drug sildenafil, which is Viagra were less likely to develop Alzheimer's disease in cultured human neurons. So this is in vitro not necessarily
Starting point is 00:29:19 but in vitro they see that this drug enhanced growth and reduced Alzheimer's biomarkers and Defining support further investigation of this drug enhanced growth and reduced Alzheimer's biomarkers and the findings support further investigation Of this drug as a possible treat now, I think it is I think it has to do with the vasodilating effects and the pro Health effects effects of nitric oxide. I think I've said this already before on the show. I think that PDE 5 inhibitors will be prescribed across the board for heart health, brain health, and just overall health because of its, you know. Boners are great for the brain. Yeah. It's funny you say that. That's the control they have to do, right? They have
Starting point is 00:29:58 to look at this and say, okay, is it the Viagra or is it that people who are in a relationship who have more sex? Yeah, there's so many bad That's got a factor in it can't just be yeah one thing sir But yeah, I guarantee you just just create more blood flow in general. I mean you see what that does for just recovery Yep, you know, so it would make logical sense It's got to be so hard to this is the this is the problem I always see with a lot of studies There's always so many
Starting point is 00:30:26 Variables that can contribute to whatever the study is claiming It's like this study do this this and this and it proves to build this much more muscle or that it proves to do This x y or z and it's like well There's other things that tend to happen when you do this and so it's like how do you know that that didn't contribute some? Of that too. It's like it's the area that makes it really those other chemicals oxytocin from you know being intimate with your partner and then the serotonin and everything else so I think it I mean maybe but I do think there's something to it because I've seen other stuff I mean what okay what if there was
Starting point is 00:31:00 a way to to show that like being happy for 30 more minutes a day every single day reduces dementia. You know what I'm saying? There are studies that show that. So I'm sure you're pretty happy when that's flowing. Well, so here's what's interesting, because there's a lot of things that connect sildenafil to better health besides the prorrelational potential, you know, aspects of it. One of them is that it's been shown to reduce insulin or improve insulin sensitivity. That could be the reason why it helps with things like Alzheimer's and
Starting point is 00:31:35 dementia. So maybe it helps improve the uptake of glucose or increases insulin sensitivity. It's been shown to be pro muscle health. And it's not the drug itself, it's the increased nitric oxide, which has healthy effects. By the way, lifting weights does this better than anything. But along those lines, you're seeing a lot of athletes now supplement with Viagra and PD-5 inhibitors because of its improved.
Starting point is 00:32:03 I mean, that's been around forever. Is there anything to the post-nut clarity sort of thing. That's where the dementia goes away? Yeah. It's just gone. Wow, grandpa. Wow, everything just revealed itself. You remember all that now? Yeah. I just hung out with your grandma. What kind of studies do we have on like the positive effects of sex on your life because that does have so many positive things? It does, but the relationship, parsing that out from just the sex and the relationship is I would like to see that because there's a big difference right then just look it requires to have a relationship in order to have sex. Not
Starting point is 00:32:36 really not anymore a lot of people just have sex. Just like Tinder stuff. Yeah. Is that would that still be considered not a relationship because there's somewhat of a relationship. I mean just a different Drinking soylent would be a meal. Yeah The whole snack theory well, I mean that's a spectrum right and so how would it would like would masturbating give you the same effects Right is would be the question So and I know it doesn't know wouldn't well know cuz they you don't have the oxytocin that's happening in that situation Yeah, there's a lot of things missing there. Definitely. But anyway, let's have a hologram partner
Starting point is 00:33:10 Yeah, I got I have a pretty cool thing I don't mean you might have you might have said this before on the show Justin But I don't know if you guys know this you guys know there's like six or seven Nukes that we don't don't know the whereabouts of you just lost them. We don't know we don't know the whereabouts of. Do you guys know that? We just lost them. We don't know. We don't know where they're at.
Starting point is 00:33:28 In the ocean? We don't know. So one of them we think is in the ocean or two of them. Yeah, there's a few. I could pull up the article and I confirmed it. I looked this up. Of our own nukes? Of our own.
Starting point is 00:33:39 Ours. Our own nukes. We obviously sold them. Yeah. I was just gonna say. Exactly. Yes. You don't just lose them. Exactly. Yes. You'll just lose. Yeah. Yes. That's what they tell me. I know I put it around here somewhere. Yeah. That's the cover story.
Starting point is 00:33:52 Exactly. I think that that's what they say like oh we don't know what happened. Of course. Meanwhile they you know sold it to. Otherwise we lost three trillion dollars. Yeah. It's in the accounting. You said how many? How many are? I think six or seven. Six. Yeah. See and in the account. And you said how many, how many are six or seven? Six. Yeah. See, and they're still unaccountable for these incidents are known as broken. How do you aren't nukes big? Yeah, I think so. Oh, that's why that movie was called Broken Arrow. Yes. Yes. So look at that. Who was that? That was
Starting point is 00:34:21 the 19 later? Maybe? Yeah, I think it was Christian Slater and John Travolta. Oh yeah. Wow. Good memory, Doug. Good job. He's got post-nuclearity right now. Just say this episode is really exciting. I mean since 1950, uh, hit the table. That's actually, believe it or not, that's actually a better number than I would have guessed from 1950 to now.
Starting point is 00:34:46 How many nukes would it be a bad number? Well, I'm not saying bad or good. I'm just saying that I know how corrupt we are. I don't think we only sold six since then. That's not very many. I mean, that's less than one a decade. So I would think we'd be doing a lot. How many nations have nukes?
Starting point is 00:35:03 And we're all very much paying attention to those nations. You could actually look that up, right? I know US has nukes. Obviously, Russia has nukes. China has nukes. I think India and Pakistan both have nukes. France has nukes. Italy has nukes.
Starting point is 00:35:21 The UK has nukes. I don't know who else. Israel. Israel has nukes. When you thinkukes, the UK has nukes. I don't know who else. Israel. Israel has nukes. And, when you think everybody has them by now? Iran does not. Iran does not. Oh yeah, pull up that whole.
Starting point is 00:35:31 Nine countries. Pull them up, let's see who's part of the club here. Russia, US, China, France, UK, Pakistan, North Korea. Israel, North Korea. That's right. Oh, Italy didn't have nukes. That's where the six nukes went.
Starting point is 00:35:42 To where? North Korea. North Korea. North Korea. It only does, what's up with you Italians, huh? So far behind. Yeah, I know. Probably because we're like, US will help us or something like that.
Starting point is 00:35:50 I don't know. I don't need to work out my way. We love each other. France has got them, so I don't know. Maybe they'll help them out. Yeah, that's interesting. I know. Yeah, and then it's a big like,
Starting point is 00:36:01 Pakistan and India, that's a scary one. I mean, is India this believable? I mean, is it, I mean, doesn't, I would think everybody's got them by now. What I'm saying? It had to have shuffled to another nation, right? Like just whoops. Either that or we put them somewhere
Starting point is 00:36:13 we don't want anybody to know. And so we write about losing them. That's more optimistic. I like that. Like maybe it's floating around. Like there's a briefcase that's constantly seriously. Or like underground. Yeah. Like some, you know know area 51 type like bases we don't know about that
Starting point is 00:36:28 they're just parking them there I mean yeah it could be yeah yeah so that was my my conspiracy theory was like we're selling them yeah or we sold them yeah people that we didn't know anyway who's the guy who's the guy who just interviewed Tucker Carlson he does a lot of he's ex-military guy. Oh, I've been certain to lose Who is that guy? I like him. I like his I don't know his name though I know Justin listens to yeah, listen to him. Well, I know exactly Sean Sean's Is it Sean is it Sean Sean Sean I want to can't we can't hear his name Yeah, so that is so I've seen a lot of his clothes just listen to the Tucker one. Yeah, he is good
Starting point is 00:37:03 It's he's a he's a It's where they're sitting like leather chairs and they're in the- I mean, yeah. I mean, I'm surprised that you both don't listen to it every day. It's like, it's like conspiracy 101. I mean, it's like, he brings on- I don't have time, dude.
Starting point is 00:37:13 Well, he's, yeah, cause he's ex, like, it was at Special Forces or CIA or something. Yeah, he's one or the other, right? And so he gets like ex-CIA type people on their alt. So he gets like super like- And they break it down. Sean Ryan. Sean Ryan.
Starting point is 00:37:28 Yeah. And I do listen to him quite a bit. Yeah. He just had like a lady on there that was like CIA and had some crazy stories. So I just got, I just started listening to that podcast. Yeah. I thought for sure you guys would be like in that like crazy. Along those lines, you guys see, so Hunter hunter Biden got I guess he got convicted of felony gun charges you know what's crazy about this about him well hold on this no this part's crazy I don't know if you know this dude so you know his laptop right you got and a lot of the stuff on the laptop that they found which is real mm-hmm is leaked out on the internet it's there it's out out there. He for sure, for sure, and you can find this if you want,
Starting point is 00:38:07 I don't suggest you look it up, but you can find it, for sure was engaged in sex trafficking of underage girls. There's pictures and videos and stuff that are out there with him. And I think that they're covering that up, and so they're like slapping him with this, and not talking about all this other crazy shit. You know what I think is they're covering that up. And so they're like slapping them with this and not talking about all this other crazy shit. You know what I think is so interesting is that no matter who is the president,
Starting point is 00:38:31 the opposing side who didn't want him or him always has crazy stories for the next four years. What do you mean? Always name a president that whoever it was, the side of people who did not wear enough form, so if he's a Democrat, all the Republicans, if he's a Republican, all the Democrats, have a laundry list of, oh my God, unbelievable,
Starting point is 00:38:55 I can't believe this story, how could we let this criminal, how could we, like every single one. I mean, there's always, there is always something, but I've never seen someone leaked pictures of them with underage prostitutes. Sure, maybe that exact thing but there's always something that is so crazy corrupt and unbelievable. I mean the whole thing is garbage right? I don't know I just I think sometimes I think that it's like I'm not ever surprised about any of it and it's a new thing or new horrible can't believe this. It just keeps getting worse though. It seems.
Starting point is 00:39:26 It seems like it keeps getting worse and worse and worse. I think it just, I think it all just travels faster and we know quicker more people know because of the internet. That's all. I think it's all the same game, same bullshit. I wouldn't even be surprised if like the whole thing's fucking mapped out before they even get into the office. Like this is, you're going to, we're going to let you drop this and then we're going to let you drop that. And it's just, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:39:48 You just dived into the whole, yeah. I mean, I, well, it's like, you want all these consequences. I think that's the problem is we've, we, because of the internet, because of like all these leaks and all this stuff, it's like, it's hard to take it all in and realize that like, this was probably baked into the power structure for a long time. And now it's like, well, why aren't they going to jail? Why aren't they prosecuting? Well, they've always like been able to sort of shuffle around and kind of hide things and, you know, strategically, like you said, like
Starting point is 00:40:22 bring it up at an opportune time. And we get played like a fiddle. We get played, yeah. That's how I feel like we get told these stories, the ones that they want us to know. Cause I have people that were connected intimately to president candidates, right? They gave me and told me stuff that like, I never heard ever.
Starting point is 00:40:41 And it like, how did nobody talk about that? Yeah. Because it was like, and what it was told to me It was like there's unsaid rules behind the scene Like you can't are our other families that we have so that they're untouchable go after my son go do the whatever Like here's there's things that they allow that okay We can we'll allow this to get out and we'll battle back and forth There's a lot of scapegoating going on right now. Just that's pete the puff daddy and then yeah So it's like you got to have some fall guys
Starting point is 00:41:10 Well, and also like I said, we get played like a fiddle like good example that girl that's going Super viral on social media Lily something is her name and she's just the she's a she's a carbon copy of the angry left leftist, you know, it's just now on the right. It's the nerds, they're running the world now. Fuck the nerds. Yeah, I should be able to say, you know, call people these, you know, it's like, and then people on the right are like,
Starting point is 00:41:36 I like her, what do you like about her? She's funny, it's comedy to me, but she represents the exact same shit on the other side. And the only reason why she's going viral is because she's tapping into the hate and anger on the other side the same way the left does. And so now she's all super popular. She's like, oh she's this, what do they call her, trad? She's nothing. She's just this angry chick. It's a bully. The conversation I'm most interested in about all this stuff that I think I'm curious is more about the human behavior aspect on our part. Like a lot of like the alarmists,
Starting point is 00:42:10 a lot of this stuff that I attributed to just the ability for news to travel so fast and we're connected so much through like social media platforms. So it's where we are, even though it's the same game, there's a massive new element to it because of this ability for things with the internet. Spread quick. You spread fakes. Like they're just, you could do things now with the, with, you know, gossip that you couldn't do before. And so what interests me the most is what point do we all go like, okay, whatever. You know what I'm saying? Like this is all part of their, and like at what point does it become like white noise?
Starting point is 00:42:50 Like when do we all just decide like, you know, how many presidents in a row do we have to have to have these types of stories, go viral and we all get crazy and we all wanna get mad at so mad at the other side, like to where we just finally go like, nah, whatever. When do we take the reality show out of it, you know, and just get back to like, do a good job, you know,
Starting point is 00:43:12 and let's stick with just like, what's the task at hand? If history's any guy, it won't happen. The Coliseum, that was the intent of the Coliseum, right? It was literally built with that intent to distract the public, right? It was literally get them to be fighting over whose team is gonna win, who's gonna kill who. Bread and circuses? Is that the term? Yeah, like free bread and then everything. If we've been doing it since the beginning of time,
Starting point is 00:43:37 it's just become more sophisticated now. Faster, more powerful, easier to control. You know what's crazy to me is that, because you get leaked videos and pictures that still make a big difference now, but the AI generated images and stuff, it's getting so good. Maybe not this election cycle, but next election cycle, that's gonna be the big thing,
Starting point is 00:43:57 is gonna be like, here's a picture, well that's fake. Well no, our AI analysis says it's real, now it's fake. And then you're not gonna be able to believe shit. That's what I mean, I think at what point do we all just dismiss all of it and just start to ignore it to where it becomes like it's- Well, that's the problem though.
Starting point is 00:44:14 What's that saying? You're not thinking about them, but they're thinking about you. So you might think to yourself, none of my business, but your business is their business. Well, it's funny too to see how Hollywood's lost a lot of power, especially like their A-lister like actors coming in to try to like, you know, keep the fire
Starting point is 00:44:32 going for your political party or, you know, whatever, like nobody cares anymore. Like in, uh, well, I don't know why I brought this up, but I just, there was a, so one actor I actually like, like I I think like however he's been depicted over the years and I just like his movies and all that. Like, so Canyon Reeves, like he seems like a good guy, but it's like, again, that just might be the media that they're just sort of like relaxing on him. And, but, uh, I, I, I was looking at, I was trying to see a bunch of music over, you know, the summer and like, try and pick out dates and all this stuff. I forgot like he's in a band
Starting point is 00:45:07 He's in this band called dog. Was it dog town dog star dog star and he's like the bassist Real also he doesn't sing. No, I can't imagine he does a little I'm like so curious. I want there any good. Yeah He's the same character. He's such a any good. Yeah. Did you really? He's the same character in every movie. He's such a terrible actor. You know what though? I love him though, dude. Yes, you know what's funny about him is that
Starting point is 00:45:30 there's some actors like this, like the same character each time, but then all of a sudden there's a movie that's made perfect for that. That's why you hate John Wick. He's a terrible actor. John Wick and the Matrix. He's a terrible actor.
Starting point is 00:45:40 Yeah. He's a terrible actor. You make a movie that fits his one personality. That to me is like the definition of a terrible actor. That's, you make a movie that fits his one personality. That's like, that to me is like the definition of like a terrible actor. Like a good actor has range, right? Like you could be a villain, you could be a good guy, you could have accents, you could be all these different.
Starting point is 00:45:55 You know what Jessica made this crazy point a long time ago about actors? She's like, you know, if you think about it, they're master liars. She's like, they can fake feelings and being like, they're the ultimatears. They can fake feelings and being, they're the ultimate narcissus. Exactly. Why do you think they're the perfect?
Starting point is 00:46:12 They're the failed actors in Hollywood. They put them on the politics instead. Well, they call them ugly actors. They're too ugly for Hollywood, so you're in politics. They're all the ugly rejects. Is that what they say? Yeah. Politicians are, I don't remember what they say.
Starting point is 00:46:24 What's the saying, Doug? Is it like politicians are actors, or actors too ugly to be actors or something like that? I don't know. Yeah. Makes sense. But yeah, they're like master liars, you know? So when they get caught doing something
Starting point is 00:46:36 and they get on camera and they cry about it, I feel so bad. And everyone's like, you know, I'm glad he came forward. You could tell he, yeah, but he won an Academy Award. Of course you feel like he actually feels that way. Who knows? You imagine being married to an Academy Award winning actor.
Starting point is 00:46:52 Wouldn't part of you be like, huh? Are you really telling the truth here right now? I don't know if I could read this properly. Daniel Day-Lewis. I imagine he fully immerses himself in that. I imagine there's also, I mean, you would hope that it's like this, right? Where they're like, that's your profession,
Starting point is 00:47:07 that's your career, and then you're very different. I mean, I'm very different at home than I am here, right? I think a lot of people are. I think there's quality. You're not that different. Yes, I am. I'm not that different. I think so.
Starting point is 00:47:18 No, you don't act, dude. You're not, no. I'm not acting, but I mean, like there's a- Anybody who knows you in your real life, listens to you on the show, goes, that's Adam. Nobody's gonna listen to it. If you meet me in person, you're like, okay, yeah, I'm exactly that person.
Starting point is 00:47:29 I don't mean like I'm fake and then I'm like a dude. Yeah, but you know what I mean. But I mean like there's like a, I have a on-off button. You're performing. Yeah, there's an on-off button. Like when I'm home, I turn into dad, husband, and I'm more quiet. Yeah, but that's not the same, dude. That's not the same, bro. That's not the same, bro.
Starting point is 00:47:45 This is why you try and do a commercial for like, Viori. Like, Viori's one of our sponsors. And they love for us to do these commercials for them that are literally us talking about their apparel. And we love their apparel, we love it. We love the company. And when they tell us to do that, all of us are like, ugh, because it's so hard.
Starting point is 00:48:03 Yeah, yeah. It doesn't feel. It feels big. It's easier for me to be like, I'm wearing'm wearing my hand I wear a Viori job I'm in Viori right now are you in Viori? Yeah all of us. Are you? Dude yeah these coochie daddy shorts look at these. Oh those are actually Viori shorts? Can you stand up in those? I didn't I actually didn't know those were Viori. You know what I like so I have those too they're like they're like they're nice. I know you don't know the name do you? Wow did you just? No I don't know the name. Did you do a butt shot you just, did you do a butt shot? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They remind me of the meta pants, but it's the short version and they're
Starting point is 00:48:29 like nice and stretchy. And this is my new favorite version that they have. So I actually don't have it. I've been looking for more colors. I have three pairs of those. Oh, you do too? I love them. They're the best. They're the best ones so far. I have none of those. Yeah. I have all the like, they're the core and they're like all the the loose. Yeah, workout looking ones. Yeah, those are, they look like. I bought these at their store when I was at Salt Lake, and was in Psalm, and then I was like, oh, they have a store near St. Terence. Now, I know you, you don't iron your shit,
Starting point is 00:48:55 so do they stay really like wrinkle-free like that? Those do. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, see, so that's cool. No, I have the pants. This is one of my things I don't like about the other shorts I have that are like that, that are different brands, is they get wrinkled really easy just like slacks do you know so there's Don't so I have the slacks too you guys have seen me wear the slacks too
Starting point is 00:49:11 You don't have to they don't wrinkle no wrinkle But anyway what the point I was gonna make is They're one of our partners and look up the brand whether where we're talking to yeah look at a lot of the the Viori will say to us. Hey hey we want you guys to talk about you know your favorite workout pants from us shirt whatever your choice and so we're like okay and then what we have to do is we get behind the mics and act like we're on the show talking about their clothes and all of us him and ha about it it takes us 30 seconds we all oh god I gotta pretend or whatever no dude it's
Starting point is 00:49:43 not the same as an actor and actors like oh like, oh I gotta be real right now? I don't know how to do that, so I'm just gonna act. Did you see, so that's, I saw the clip that Patrick Bette-David just put up, because I guess he interviewed Kevin Spacey. Oh no, no, excuse me, not Patrick Bette-David. No, no, no, it was. Pierce Morgan. Pierce Morgan.
Starting point is 00:49:57 Pierce Morgan had just interviewed him, and I guess he's going bankrupt, and he's like losing his home that he's been living in for. What happened to him again. He got, he got sued for sexual harassment or something like that. Like a pedo stuff too. I thought, no, I thought so.
Starting point is 00:50:12 I think it's sexual harassment. I think there was a lot of different cases against him. I don't know what was, I mean, it sucks cause he was like one of my favorite actors, so that was like a, such a bummer to like see like an actor who you really liked. I liked his acting, right? So, yeah, but it obviously don't know these people in person. It was, it was a guy, right? It was like a Marine guy. And so he was basically like, he just was like handling himself right next to him and like was trying to,
Starting point is 00:50:37 Oh, that was what happened. Yeah. And he was trying to kind of, you know, coerce this guy. Oh, interesting. He was in the bathroom. What was that, Doug? What shorts? I think it's the meta shorts. It is, yeah. See, meta, I was right.
Starting point is 00:50:50 Oh, wow. Yeah, I like them. I'm gonna have to get a pair of those. You know, this whole celebrity world with that kind of stuff is weird because, first off, I couldn't imagine having the guts to present myself like that with someone unless I got like really big signs
Starting point is 00:51:04 that they were into it or whatever. I think celebrities get away with it so often. It's that one-off. to present myself like that with someone, unless I got like really big signs that they were into it or whatever. I think celebrities get away with it so often. It's that one-off. Totally. Because they must get away with it, right? Bro, that's like God complex where you just think you can do whatever you want.
Starting point is 00:51:15 Because you've probably done it 50 times. Yes. And the other person, you know, is cool with it. I love you in the house of cards. What are you doing? Yeah. You want to see my house of cards? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:24 Wow. Well, I didn't know that's what it was. That's interesting. I mean supposedly he's got like all kinds of legal battles. My point though of bringing him up and to tie it into the conversation we're having is that a lot of the comments underneath there are just like don't forget this guy's an actor for a living. And so a lot of people were crying in that interview. Yeah he was. He was getting really emotional and like everyone's just like yeah this is because he's buying up. I mean he can in that interview. Yeah, he was. He was getting really emotional. And everyone's just like, yeah, this is because he's by himself.
Starting point is 00:51:45 But I mean, he can make himself cry. Yeah. Really, really effective. Really, really well. And dramatize a conversation by pausing and like, yeah, no, there's definitely. He's an expert. Very, very good at that.
Starting point is 00:51:58 And I would imagine, too, when you get into a interview like that and you know, you're you have PR you're a professional you've been doing this for 30 years. He's not going in there without prep. Yes like you know like what's my desired outcome they're gonna put me on this thing. I'm gonna do this because I'm super likable yeah yeah people feel bad for me. I mean how could you not how could you not be that like you're you're an actor that's what you're doing and that? Like you're you're an actor. That's what you're doing. And you know, like you're you're on one of the largest stages on a show like
Starting point is 00:52:28 Pierce Morgan, like millions and millions of people see you like him is Kaiser says it was amazing. It was a great role. Bro, he's he's got a lot of great, great. Why do we like that? Go shaders? What I was gonna say, why do we like that so much? Like, why are we place actors on such a pedestal? I guess we just like- I don't. I've never, athletes never, I've always said like,
Starting point is 00:52:51 they're amazing at their sport. I love watching them. It's like the movies. Like I have never- I didn't mean we specifically. That's why, you know what too? Like, I couldn't tell you a damn thing about his life. I don't know, is he married?
Starting point is 00:53:02 Does he have kids? I don't know. I have like, I do not follow celebrities' personal life. No, no. I don't give a shit. I don't know. Is he married? Does he have kids? I don't know. I have like, I do not follow celebrities personal life. No, no shit. I didn't mean we specific and athletes too. Say like I, you know how much I like sports and I can name everybody. Like I don't know any other person. When you find things out, yeah, real life. I don't even, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, um, I do not follow their personal life because I don't give a shit. I follow them because what, if it's a sport, it's because I think they're incredible at that.
Starting point is 00:53:28 If they're acting, they're incredible at that. I do not even think for a minute like, Oh, I bet he's a great father too. Well, what I was going to say, what I was going to say is I meant we as in generally, right? I think what it is is that we like. When someone can make us feel something, uh, then we like that and we tend to seek that out. I think that's what it is, right? And so when you watch a role,
Starting point is 00:53:51 when someone's playing a role like, I can't help but like Sylvester Stallone, because as a kid I watched Rocky and it was like such a, I don't know anything about the guy. You admire something about that person, so it's natural to want- About the character, not him. Doesn't matter, because they play in sports it's natural to want about the character. Yeah. But it doesn't matter because the play in sports, that's really them playing the sport.
Starting point is 00:54:09 They're not faking that. So it's like you admire. What it is, is you admire something about them and that makes you want to, you want to like everything about them. It's, you know, it's, but it's not, there's a scene in, you know, we, you know, we do the opposite in politics, right? We play identity politics where we talk the opposite in politics, right? We play identity politics where we talk all about their character,
Starting point is 00:54:27 their person, so that forget what they're doing, their policies. Forget about what moves they actually make that either help this country or don't help this country. I bet you 99% of people couldn't even tell you. Nothing, nothing. They don't know what they vote on. Nothing, all they know about is their personal life. It's like that's why I hate this conversation because it's so irrelevant it's so irrelevant. Like, oh, he's this.
Starting point is 00:54:46 Like, I don't want him in that position because of what he does with his sex life or how messed up he is. Like, I want him to go run this country like a goddamn good business. And so tell me about what he's done. Like, so I'd like, like when you talk about the economy related to what he's doing or policy or war and what wars we were not in or what, like that stuff matters to me, but they're old. Whenever someone argues with me, I talked about a president, one that's either in the presidency or was.
Starting point is 00:55:14 You're like, why don't you like them? Did you hear what he said? Yes. Right away. I'm like, I don't even want to talk to you. You're an idiot. The fact that that's why that is your, your way of discrediting whoever the president is or not is based off of a character trait I don't fucking care but a hunter Biden's not a he's not he doesn't run for office or anything But boy is he a interesting wasn't he the guy that filmed himself with a crack pipe He has mouth going under something. Yes, so do they ever admit who's a cocaine it was We all know it's just like he's gonna you, now you got caught with as he's going to like,
Starting point is 00:55:49 oh yeah, it was mine. So who cares? Yeah. No, I thought that, uh, yeah. Cause RFK actually got interviewed about that. I was like, they're trying to be like, well, Trump and this and that and the other, and like Biden, this and that and the other, he's like, I don't want to get into any of the vitriol. I don't want to like get into any of this. Like here's, you know, yeah, he just wanted to talk about like how much prices for groceries went up and gas and this and that and the other, like really actionable, like practical things. It's like, dude, finally, somebody has said something sensible.
Starting point is 00:56:19 Yeah, I like them. All right. I'm going to give a shout out again to our free training course for trainers and coaches. A lot of, so we've shouted it out a couple of times. A lot of them don't know that we have this. We have online a three day course. It's totally free for trainers and coaches in there.
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Starting point is 00:57:39 How long would you recommend staying there before over fatiguing the target muscle? Not only does that make sense, that's exactly how you're supposed to do it. Yeah. You have a total amount of volume that you train for your entire body that you find that sweet spot.
Starting point is 00:57:53 And what a lot of people do, it's a big mistake, is they say, oh, I wanna bring up my chest or my shoulders or whatever, my glutes. They just pile on more volume. They just add more volume, and so they end up overtraining because it's not just about the body part, the volume of the body part,
Starting point is 00:58:04 it's the total accumulated volume that the body has to deal with. So what you do, the smart way to bring up a lagging body part is to add volume to that lagging body part and take it away from other body parts. And typically what I'd recommend someone do is take it away from body parts that respond real well. So if you have like, if your quads develop very easily, take volume off your quads and add it to the target area.
Starting point is 00:58:28 But this is really the only way to successfully bring up a lagging body part, unless your total volume is below that ideal threshold. In which case, you use that. The only reason why I think this becomes challenging for people is we all tend to have these exercises or muscle groups that we love to train because we're good at them. There are strengths, they look the best on us. And, and we have a hard time letting
Starting point is 00:58:48 go a little bit of that. Um, I can relate to this though, for me was growing up my arms. I trained the shit out of my arms from the age of 15 till I was 30, like that. And then when I started to work on other body parts, all I did was add the other ones on there instead of like going, Hey, you know what? Like, I'm not going to be able to do that. I was 30 like that and then when I started to work on other body parts all I did was add the other ones on there
Starting point is 00:59:07 Instead of like going hey, you know what like I guess I've I've over developed my arms I could probably not train and I won't shrink by the way You gotta make sure you say that only that afraid that they're gonna not only that but then what was I got to a place where? I could like almost not train arms at all because arms are Secondary and they they work in so many other prime movements and they're not never getting worked. So you do a bench press, you're getting your triceps worked out. You do a row, you're, you're getting your biceps worked out.
Starting point is 00:59:35 And so I went from a guy who used to have like days dedicated to his arms, you know, two, three days in the week where you're dedicated arms to like eliminating arm days completely, and then using all that extra volume to focus on the other muscle groups that were underdeveloped. And that was when it really started to bring up in balance. And so, you know, I think that's the tough part is people were like, well, how much, how much do I need to scale back? I do.
Starting point is 00:59:59 It's just like, listen, you probably have a, if you have an underdeveloped muscle you're trying to focus on, that obviously means you have ones that are overdeveloped. Picked one that is probably your strength and dramatically reduce it, cut it in half. Don't be afraid to skip it for two weeks in a row. It ain't going to, trust me, if it's that much overdeveloped compared to the one that's underdeveloped, you ain't going to flip flop it in one week. So, and if anything, you're going to see better benefits by scaling back that volume completely since you're adding new volume.
Starting point is 01:00:29 That's right. And, and, and it, just to add a cherry on top, the amount of training volume that's required to maintain the muscle you built is significantly lower than what was required to build it. So again, just so you don't fear like, Oh my God, you know, I know my quads are really well developed, but I don't want them to shrink just cause I'm going to work on this lagging body part. They won't, they won't shrink.
Starting point is 01:00:47 You'll cut the volume in half. You're not going to lose any of your gains, but now you've opened up volume to, to train and target on that lagging body part and then it'll respond. Next question is from FJTEGGY. What's the best program for someone who typically over trains at the gym and is about to start training for a half marathon? You know, training for marathon, half marathon, definitely triathlon, um, strength training is extremely beneficial, but you're very limited on how much you
Starting point is 01:01:17 can do and almost everybody I've ever worked with does too much. Well, a half marathon is only what 13 miles? Depends on who we're talking to. Yes, but it all, it depends on who we're talking to, yes, but it depends on who we're talking to. In my experience. Yeah, is this their first time running? That's right.
Starting point is 01:01:30 People that train for a half marathon are not like super seasoned endurance athletes. It's typically like, oh, I do one every year, or I've never done one before. And it's just a lot of running. It's a lot of training for someone. And so half marathon, I would say one day a week of strength training or one exercise a day.
Starting point is 01:01:49 MAPS 15. I think MAPS 15 is a good program for me. I also think for this type of person, it's a good thing to train. Like a person who tends to over train, a great exercise or a great program to work on that is MAPS 15 because it's like you get two exercises, that's it. And one of the hardest parts about following that program
Starting point is 01:02:09 is you're like, I'm done, this is it, I could do more. And so the fact that the whole entire program is written that way and if you follow it to a T, it will get you comfortable with that. And one of the ways it gets you comfortable with that is you see tremendous gains many times from the person who over trains by following that. And that tends to break these people that have this idea that I need more is
Starting point is 01:02:31 more. And the more I do, the more results I get that breaks that mentality. And so yeah, a mapped 15 protocol is what I would lean towards. With half marathons, um, you probably find more overtraining with half marathons or more people who tend to overtrain in the half marathon category than in others, even marathon. I think.
Starting point is 01:02:50 Well, just because of the point you made. They misjudge it. It attracts a, it attracts a novice runner. And you can, you can get yourself to complete a half marathon by beating yourself up. A marathon pushes people too hard and they typically break down and get injured. And so, like I said, I've trained a lot of
Starting point is 01:03:04 people who train in half marathon. Marathon tri like I said, I've trained a lot of people who train half marathon, marathon for athletes, I've trained some Ironman athletes. It was the half marathon clients that were typically the worst with some of this. Yeah. So once a week is plenty and then yeah, or like split it up like Adam said, with the 15 protocol. But to just emphasize like anytime you're putting in new stress and like a lot of impact on the joints that you haven't been receiving before, you got to emphasize things like ankle mobility drills and hip mobility drills and really incorporate that, sprinkle that in
Starting point is 01:03:36 throughout the week to keep up. Next question is from Cassandra Sieg. What are the best compound exercises? Which ones do you recommend above all else? Which ones are a waste of time? Really? This question? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:51 The last one. I thought you've done episode after episode. We have. But you know, people ask it because, you know, it's a question that new people want to fear. You know, the last part, I think we should answer the last one first, which is which ones are a waste of time?
Starting point is 01:04:03 None are a waste of time. None are a waste of time. There's actually no exercise that's a waste of time if it's applied properly and appropriately. When exercises become a waste of time is when they're the wrong exercise for the person or it's too much volume or it's inappropriate for the individual. Except for those good girl, bad girl machines.
Starting point is 01:04:19 That's not a compound exercise. And which ones are a waste of time? Is it just like in general, right? Yeah, I don't know. Maybe, even those, waste of time? Is it just like in general, right? Yeah, I don't know. Maybe, even those, look, even those can be applied to certain situations, right? Of course. But best compound lifts, I mean deadlifts, squats,
Starting point is 01:04:33 overhead presses, bench presses, rows, pull-ups, dips, lunges, they're all extremely valuable exercises. And a routine that is focused around compound lifts that uses almost no isolation exercises at all would probably be better than most of the workouts that are out there with people. Yeah, and I do want to point out, which ones do you recommend above all else?
Starting point is 01:04:57 Here's the nuance to this question. Is Sal listed the top four or five, right? There's the big four or five compound lifts, which are the exact ones he just listed, which are the greatest, undebatable of all time movements. And anybody with any experience and knowledge in the space would agree to that.
Starting point is 01:05:16 Now, the nuance to that is, if you've been doing those five movements consistently forever, then almost any other four or five compound lifts that are the variations of those will be better. In other words, if you have been barbell back squatting for four years straight, and it's always been a part of your team and you've never front squatted. Well, a front squat now becomes. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:39 Or a split stance squat all of a sudden becomes an incredible movement. And so that's a bit where this where this question is not fair to answer because it depends. It depends on what now if I'm, if we got a avatar that is a brand new person, never lifted, but then I could get them to lift any lift I wanted to. And what would those four or five lists be? It would be the four or five that Sal lifted. But if you take that exact same character who now said, okay, you told me these are the best four or five lifts. I followed those compound lifts for the last three years. Now, is this still true? These are, well, no. Now the best four or five are variations of those four or five lifts
Starting point is 01:06:20 because your body has now adapted to those so well that a novel stimulus is going to to reap more benefits. Yeah if I were to rank them for the average person you know it'd be a toss-up but I would go squat deadlift overhead press barbell row bench press would probably be the ranking of which ones are gonna give you the most down to which ones give you the least but they're all super valuable and Basing your routine around those is not a bad idea for 90% of people and it could literally so Back to my variation point like you could literally stick to just those five you listed or four
Starting point is 01:06:57 Yeah, five the five you could just you could stick to those five and they just do variations and do and then every stick to those five and then just do variations and do, and then every six months do a variation of those five. Right? So take that movement and there's several variations of each one of those movements and follow that for six months and then do the, and then after six months, make another variation. Quadrant. It's just like, it's a vertical press. It's a horizontal press. It's a leg specific exercise.
Starting point is 01:07:25 It's a hip hinge. Yeah. Those are like, that's your meat on your plate. And you center everything else around that. Now I do want to say this, because I don't want to take for granted. Sometimes we answer questions and we think people know what we're talking about. A compound exercise is an exercise that utilizes two or more joints of the body.
Starting point is 01:07:43 An isolation one is one that uses just one joint. So the ones we listed, when you look at the extras, like oh there's the knee, ankle, and hip, or there's the shoulder and elbow, right? That's what it means to do a compound lift. And the reason why they're so valuable is because it trains and strengthens the body where, in a way where it teaches the muscle
Starting point is 01:08:04 or trains the muscles to work together. Why is that beneficial? Cause that's the way that the body is organized or designed or evolved or whatever we believe that's the way it moves best. It doesn't move best in isolation where it's just my quads, just my hamstrings, just my lats. It works best when they all work together. And that is a skill, meaning if you train the
Starting point is 01:08:29 muscles to work together, they will work together better over time. If you train the muscles in isolation, they'll work better in isolation and that's so great, uh, altogether. And again, think of your regular life. When do you ever do anything in the regular, in your, in your regular day where it's an isolated kind of movement?
Starting point is 01:08:46 It's not. And incidentally, activating two or three muscles, uh, with a heavy load tends to activate more muscle fibers and all of those muscles than activate just that muscle. Strength potential. That's right. So in other words, just working my quads versus working my quads, hamstrings, glutes, calves, we'll activate more quad by activating the other muscles.
Starting point is 01:09:07 This is how the central nervous system works. So just a little explanation as to why compound lifts are so valuable. Next question is from Vinsanity505. When should I take creatine? I used to stack it with my pre-workout, but heard somewhere that the two fight for bioavailability so you don't have, so you don't get the full benefits. So I switched to post-workout. Now after hearing about all the cognitive benefits I'm considering taking it in the morning,
Starting point is 01:09:33 I typically work out either at lunch or after work. When would you suggest is the optimal time to take it? The time you'll be most consistent. You have to take it at the winter solstice about 30 seconds. You know what, they're splitting hairs. Okay, so so let's let's talk a little bit about the cognitive benefits. The cognitive benefits of creatine have been shown to happen like hours later. I think it's like almost 24 hours later and then it tends to last. So it's not like you take it right before you're gonna to do a mental activity. It's just the fact that you're taking it, that you're going to get those cognitive
Starting point is 01:10:08 benefits. Same thing with the strength gains and all that stuff. Now, as far as competing bioavailability, they talk about caffeine with creatine. This is again, splitting hairs. It's not that big of a deal. So I wouldn't worry too much about it. There is some studies that show that there's probably enhanced bioavailability if you take it post workout versus other times. Again, this is splitting hairs.
Starting point is 01:10:28 Adam actually gave the right answer before I went on, which is the time you're most likely to be consistent. So if taking your supplements first thing in the morning, you're going to most likely remember, not forget, not skip, then just do it then. Your body's going to know what to do with it. And I think that's the thing. We get a bit arrogant sometimes with timing and this and that. It's all going to work out because you did it
Starting point is 01:10:53 at that time. Your body's going to utilize it, synthesize it most effectively on its own. I think why this gets confusing is because there's things like caffeine, which affect your central nervous system. And they have a caffeine has a very specific as a half life. It has a timing when it hits your system.
Starting point is 01:11:10 And then, so obviously you take a caffeine pill a half hour hour before you work out and you're going to feel the benefits of that. You take a little four bed, can't sleep. Right. So that, I understand why this can get a little confusing for people. That's not how creatine works. It elevates the levels in your body. And you consistently taking that every single day is going to keep those levels elevated. And so it doesn't really matter if it was morning, after night. The other reason why it's confusing, Adam, is because creatine, you know, when it first hit the market, even today, it is, there's no,
Starting point is 01:11:40 hands down, there is no supplement aside from one that fills a nutrient need, like you have an essential nutrient deficiency. Besides that, okay, there is no supplement that's even in the same universe of the category of creatine in terms of overall benefits. Nothing, nothing comes close to the overall benefits of creatine from a muscle building, recovery, cognitive benefit, health benefit, longevity benefit, then creatine. Again, unless you have an essential nutrient that you're lacking and you have a supplement with it, nothing comes close to creatine. So because of that, the supplement market's always trying to find a way to differentiate itself. And so they come up with all these different, oh, you know, enhanced absorption, if you take it here, you do it here, you do it there,
Starting point is 01:12:21 whatever. Here's what you need to consider with creatine. How am I going to make myself take this consistently? That's the factor you need to focus on. What is going to get me to take this creatine consistently and not forget? That's the most important thing. Everything else doesn't make a difference at all. Look, if you like the show, we have a free guide that teaches you how to squat like a pro. So touch teaches squat technique and form and mobility. It's how to squat like a pro guide. It's free. It's at mindpumpfree.com. You can also find us on Instagram. Justin is at mind pump.
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