Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 2388: Best Time To Take Creatine, Adding More Lower Body Exercises To Your Routine, Using Belts & Straps & MORE (Listener Live Coaching)

Episode Date: July 26, 2024

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especially if you squat or deadlift or overhead press, are running shoes. No, not Chucks. Running. No, Shocks. Oh, Shocks are. Remember the Shocks? Absolutely terrible.

Those have to be the worst shoes. All running shoes. All running shoes are terrible because they're made to be squishy and cushiony. And you lift heavy weights in them, and you are creating instability. So unless you're trying to do instability training, take your running shoes, leave them at home.

So don't wear ASICs. OK, quick. Three worst pairs of shoes you've seen somebody squat in. Shocks has got to be up there. Yeah, Shocks is one of them. Any type of running shoes with Nike, Nike, Nike, uh, roaches. No, the roaches, the ones that are like the squishy sock, super comfortable shoe to wear super common.

And I love those shoes. Yeah. But horrible. They're like a big marshmallow. And even when you walk in them, you can feel a move around that side. And then maybe the idiots that do it in Crocs. Yeah. Crocs. Crocs are not good. BK Knights. Yeah. So Crocs,

Shocks and Roushies and Rochers. What's that one shoe? Uh, Hooka? Hooka? Uh, Oh, the Hooka running shoes? You want to talk about? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Terrible too. Yeah, that would be bad. Yeah. Cause you know, okay, so what you want when you're going to do a heavy barbell lift is you want to be stable. You want to be solid. You want to be connected. You don't want any, you don't want your ankle to have the ability to twist this way or that way, or move like you're on a squishy surface. Now, back in the day, we would do that on purpose

with Dyna Discs. And there were idiots out there that would try doing heavy lifts on them. And that's indeed what they were, idiots. There is something known as instability training, but you see this far too often in gyms where I'll see people doing heavy lifts, heavy enough where they have to wear a squat belt and they'll chalk up and then they're doing it in running shoes, especially

for deadlifts with your heel elevated with a squishy shoe. You've increased your risk of injury, it's all you've done by lifting that way. And then elevating your heels with a dead lift in particular. I know there's some arguments for some heel elevation. I don't like them. I like flat, stable feet for a dead lift because it is a posterior chain exercise. I can see some argument for a slight elevation for squats, but you want stable shoes. Look at Olympic lifting shoes.

They're basically made out of wood. You want strong, flat, stable shoes or barefoot if you have strong feet and strong ankles. So running shoes. Terrible. So originally I would have said like Chucks was my go-to, but now since we've been working with zero shoes, I'm such a fan of the toe box because that's the one knock I have on Chucks. I love chucks and I've been I've been squatting and deadlifting in chucks for a very long time but they do they are narrow shoes. Yeah they crunch your feet. You need that surface area for grip. Yeah if your toes can actually like spread out and you can really dig them into the ground man all the the ground forces you create are so much more significant to go. I mean

you know you could test this by the way, for people who are like, well, what's the difference? Try doing this. Try doing a pushup with your thumb and your fingers together, and then try doing a pushup with a wide grip, if you will, with your fingers wide. See if you notice a difference in your connection to the pushup. Now we're far more connected to our hands than we are to our feet, because we don't wear shoes in our feet all day long, like we do with our feet.

But something similar happens to your feet. And it's interesting because modern shoes for a long time now have tried to kind of create this point with your foot at the very end. But that is not natural. And if you look at pictures of feet from people who live barefoot their whole lives, like modern hunter-gatherers versus the way our feet look, we have deformed our feet. If you look at pictures of feet from people who live barefoot their whole lives, like modern hunter-gatherers versus the way our feet look, we have deformed feet, unfortunately. We have atrophied, deformed feet.

Our toes come in together at a point. We don't have strong muscles on the bottom of our feet. We're just not connected. That takes away from your ability to connect to the rest of your body because it's all connected. But when you're doing heavy lifts, at the very least you want a flat sold stable shoe. And I agree with you, Zero Shoes is one of my new favorites because it allows me to do this with my toes, spread them slightly and then drive them to the floor. And I feel much more connected. I also like that they actually look like good shoes. Like stylistically, I mean, I mean I'm not wearing them out to go to dinner in them and stuff like that But at least I don't feel silly and I'm at the five finger shoe movement was like too much for me

Do you guys never get aware? Yes. Yes people still wear those Yes, I mean It was super functional guy They're the ugliest thing ever. So that was the challenge I felt like with these shoes, because obviously they're for performance. You're not wearing them. But somebody had to come out and make a brand that, like, hey,

these are good looking shoes, and they're functional. And I feel like Zero Shoes did the best at that. I think they, of all the barefoot type of, or minimalist type of shoes, I think that they did the best job. But you should have a competition to see who could get laid wearing those shoes. Wow.

Wow. What? Be like impossible. What? On the five finger ones? Yeah, the five finger ones. That's instant dryness. Yeah.

You're not getting anything happening. Yeah, those shoes were possible there. Yeah. No, 100%. Yeah, I don't like And I can't let anything happen. Yeah, those shoes were probably for sure. Yeah. No, a hundred percent. Yeah. And I don't like, I'm just not a fan. I mean, you know, this is funny too, off topic. I'm just not a fan of feet in general.

So five finger shoes just reminds me that there's toes out there as much as I know that they're functional. It's so weird how conditioned we are, right? We're so conditioned. It's weird. It's weird that we've made shoes for so long to your earlier point of like just smashing them into a point. And it's like, uh, there's no breathing room there. And it's, so what was the original thought? I don't think is it,

is it because like we're trying to kind of keep them to a point so you could run and strike a little more effectively forward. Like why? So, because it doesn't like leather that was wrapped around your feet back in the days, right? It started with sandals, right? It does gotta be the original shoe. Right. And you're completely open. You're completely opened up.

Well, you think that was even before right? Wrapping leather around them and they probably wrapped leather around them before. Well, I know some culture. You know? Yeah, I don't know. That's a good question. I wonder if the point regardless, cause there's some old shoes, like clogs,

where they actually point the toe. Like it looks like a point. And I wonder if it was to get your foot in a holster. Easier. Oh yeah. Maybe it's a horse. I think yes. I'm guessing. Oh, they're up. Breathe. Stir up. Like it looks like a point. And I wonder if it was to get your foot in a holster. Easier. Oh yeah, maybe it's a horse thing. I think yes. I'm guessing. A stirrup.

Sorry, not a holster. What's a holster? For a gun. For a gun. Yeah. I tried to put my foot in, man. All of a sudden. That's actually not a bad guess.

You're doing well. It's a pretty. I actually think that's true. Like cowboy boots, they have the pointy toe. Yeah, I mean. So it fits inside. So that, I mean, that definitely makes sense. It fits in the kick. And the tall heel. Oh boy boots. They have the point. Yeah, I mean so it fits inside So that I mean that definitely makes sense is like it's and they call heels So you have a little cowboy boots what we were say that again with the tall the tall heels

So you slide all the way through so you can just yeah Presses back against now. Are you just confidently saying that because it's such a no I just want some cowboy boots I have some authority here No, I just bought some cowboy boots. So... Look at this guy. Wait a second. Wait a second. I haven't received them yet. I have some authority here because I bought some cowboy boots. Can we talk about the... Can we see these shoes that you bought? Undercover guy?

I haven't gotten them yet. He's so undercover. I can't wait. No, I'm going to wear them. Let me see. Are they like snakeskin? No, they're gator. Ostrich.

Are they really gator? Of course. Yes. Can I see them? Can we see... Let's blow them see him. I cannot wait. I can't you in these boots I'm a little stylish Because I wanted to do that, but I can't do it now you can do it No, I could you got the Gator boots first now, then I look like I'm following your lead. Okay Well, I got a lead. Let me show them to you. They're pretty sharp. Okay, let me see. Let me see. Where you gonna wear these

We're living. Hey You'll find a place to wear them. I will find a place like I have a bunch of suits. Where do I wear those? Yeah, Doug goes out. Oh my gorgeous Recommended them for you. I did a research on my own. Oh look at you. No, you know where I did it in the airport I go I want some cowboy boots and I had a layover in Chicago I did it in the airport. I go, I want some cowboy boots. And I had a layover in Chicago. And I started looking, I saw these boots and they stood out to me. So I ordered them. They suggested going a half size down. I talked to their customer support. I got them and they're

too tight. So they're sending me new ones. See, this is one of my favorite parts of Doug right here is like the undercover little bougie side of him. I mean, these aren't like cheap fucking boots here right now. These are like Louis Vuitton type of shoes. Those are well over a thousand dollars. It's like when my friend trying to describe his boots to me, he's like, dude, check out these shit kickers. I was like, shit kickers. I can't, you know, because, because where I grew up, I, you know, I,

you've never seen anybody in boots unless they were riding a horse in which I never, which I don't see very often. So it's just weird. And some places I group around a lot. Yeah. So I like them. I feel like it's playing dress up, but I never, I never had them though. It's funny.

Cause like, uh, so I've been like riding, uh, horses, like when we go to different places, like on vacation and you know, it's become kind of a regular thing. It's just something to do with the kids and whatnot. In the last time, like they're like, oh, you wanna like normally have like steps for you to kind of step up on and like get up on. And there's like, have you done this before?

I'm like, yeah, I've done this before. And so I just like, they're like, go ahead, get up. And I just like threw myself up there and I'm like, I don't know, man. I feel like I could be like a cowboy, dude. Tell me you cannot see Justin wearing his Viore shorts with them cowboy boots right there. No, I don't want to picture that. 100% I could see just zero fucks rolling up in his

athleisure wear shorts. Be like, the Chuck Norris. And his cowboy boots, dude. That is So on brand for him. Shorts. So on brand. Shorts right there? Yeah. These ones? You don't need to kick your leg out. Those are Viori, aren't they? No. Oh, you're not. I don't like those shorts. These are Viori pants. I normally wear Viori shorts. These are the new. So no, no, no. So you know that these, I customly mess with my Viori's here So that, these don't come like this. So these are the ripstop,

and then I actually go and I get elastic put in. See, I like them without the elastic, the way that they make them. I have gorgeous ankles though, that's why. I just wanna show off my ankles. Who told you, hold on a second, who told you you have gorgeous ankles? I've actually been very,

I've been complimented multiple times. Like seriously, or was it like a joke? Yeah, I mean, from women, so I mean, it's probably positive. Adam has like all these hourglass areas of his body. I don't know if you noticed, like he's got this like waist that tapers, he's got these ankles that are just like tapered.

You guys want to hear? I thought you'd been told that. I thought you'd been told that. She's going to be so mad that I shared this. OK, so I think every person has this, right? The one thing that just makes you go, ugh, or you hate Yeah, Jessica cannot stand and she told me if you ever do this I swear to God I'll punch you she hates it when men wear any kind of pants that show the ankle and they don't wear Any socks? Oh my god, if there's no size and ankle show I've had women that are like you prefer that

immediately's like Nothing. Yeah. Well, I would never not wear socks, just because it looks like I have no show socks. So I would never not wear socks. Well it looks like you don't have any socks on. Yeah right, that's the look. Let me see your ankle socks. Let me see how my ankle looks. What makes an ankle good or not?

Bro, ask the girls. I mean they want to see the calves. Justin has sturdy ankles. They look stable. Yeah, they don't look like they'll buckle. Try me. You put me next to Justin, mine look dainty. Well then I can see now what you mean. They do look pretty. They do know what you mean. So I got, I don't know what these are called. These are the newer Viori like sweatpants ones and I don't know what they're called. They're the ones I don't

have that I've seen you wear before, they're very comfy looking. Super comfy. Super comfortable. Now have you dressed those up, or do you just wear them casual? Casual. Yeah, that's gotta be a casual thing.

I wear the slacks that they have, which are called, what are the ones? The meta slacks. Yep, I wear those when I'm going out. I love those. Cause those you can dress up with a button down. They look really, really good. You don't go out though, so. Huh, yeah I do. You don't really wear them down I'm going out. I wear those. Because those you could dress up with a button down. They look really, really good. You don't go out, though, so.

Huh? You do. You do? Yeah, sometimes. Really? When's the last time? Once a week. Yeah.

Once a week, go out to dinner with my wife. You guys really? Just by yourself? Where do you guys normally go? Yeah. He's lying right now, just so you know. Huh? No, I'm just telling Justin he's lying right now.

No, I'm not. I'm curious. Like, yeah. You guys want me to come over and watch kids? Yes. Friday night. It's not on Instagram. It's not true. It didn't over. Friday night, it's not Instagram. It's not Friday night. Uh, it was a date night for us. Oh, and then you consistently do it. Uh,

we almost never miss unless there's something going on. And then what's a typical, what's a typical Friday night? We'll go to dinner. So we'll go downtown by where we live or we have some favorite restaurants that we like to attend. You drive, walk, cause you guys are pretty close. Walking to downtown is still about a mile and a half. Okay, that's kind of cool. Yeah, so we'll still drive, but lazy way.

But no, we go every Friday night, we go out to dinner. And so we'll dress up. Same place, you guys rotate around. No, we like to pick different things. In fact, there's one restaurant that we have on the list that we still haven't gone to, it's the one you recommend Doug where they cook was a Japanese Oh like a tap on play no you could be like they'll make you play they'll like make like organ meats and oh yeah yeah that's a like a yaki tori

play yaki tori now are you guys guilty of like never leaving your your little five-mile radius or will you go to other places to go eat we always try to to, we tend to try to go to different places, but you know where I'm at, right? So downtown, so many different options and restaurants. Um, so we still haven't, we have, we, we'll go to the same place sometimes, but typically we'll find something different. Like I like to enjoy, Jessica and I are definitely experienced. We definitely value experiences over things. We're, we're not very likely to spend money on things, but experiences will go out of our way to enjoy stuff. Like Gator Skin boots, you would never buy.

No. I would. Gator Skin boots. I feel like it's a song there. Would you buy it? Would you? Would you rock it? Boots?

Yeah, like those? I would rock it. I mean, they won't fit as cats. Not exactly like those. But yeah, actually, when I was in Park City, I liked those. But I mean, they won't fit as not like exactly those. But yeah, I was actually when I was in city, I mean, I like, yeah, when I was in park city, I was looking at a pair because I was just, but I have no, I was like, when would I ever wear these? I don't know. I was thinking about getting a horse just so I could do the whole ensemble.

You know, I was actually looking at books when we're in Nashville, I boots when we're in Nashville. I didn't have a chance to really have a good look. So I think look good on women a lot. I do I do I agree. I do I think dudes Either looks like you're playing like you're playing dress-up or like you're a legit. Yeah, I just don't know It's the poser thing. I just can't you know, I'm just the cowboy. I'm not I'm not into any cowboy things I want to be like I think it's cool Oh, yeah, I got a mustache. Maybe that's how you start and maybe that's Doug's thought process Like I get the boots first. Yeah, then I don't have an excuse not to ride a horse and then I get a horse

And then I like I like the culture I'm not far and I get it as saddles. You know, yeah give myself a rope I feel like when Justin jumps on the horse, though, the horse is like, Oh dude. Yeah. I had one like, like going back, trying to bite me. Yeah. The last one he's like biting my foot. Like he's angry. It's just one, get off. That two.

Yeah. They don't like all the weight. It's painful riding a horse, right? Like it's, I mean, not painful, but it's exhausting. It's not like you're sitting in a chair. Oh, no, no, no. You're active the whole time. Well, yeah, and because, and two, like the last time it was my knee

because I was so like spread out. And you know, it's just, it just puts a lot of strain on the, on, you know, my knee and my ligaments, but it's, it is, I don't know, dude, I enjoy it. It's like something to do. It's, you know, you're, you're kind of connected to the horse and you're seeing nature and whatnot. It's cool. Yeah. Now riding, uh, have you, you've ridden a lot of horses.

Have you ever done the bareback riding? No, that's a whole skill. Wow. Yeah. There's, yeah, I wouldn't do that. Cause then you got to pinch it with your legs and you got Yeah, and you and you better have a horse. That's Yeah, yeah

You're gonna get launched if you don't so yeah, no, I'm I I we had horses But I actually didn't like riding on that much. Why I just wasn't into I was more into the ATVs and stuff like that I had a friend who had it wasn't because you resented the horses because you guys didn't pay the electric bill? Well, maybe. And maybe because we all had, all the girls in the family wanted horses and we didn't have like an ATV.

Maybe I did have a little bit of that. They got their present. Because I wanted that forever. I remember the first time as a young kid when I sat on my first ATV and got to ride it and I was like this is like that's all I ever wanted as a kid my whole life I wanted one and I never got one but we had horses and I was just like I don't want to go to a lot of rodeos. Oh yeah I mean Oakdale rodeo is a big rodeo.

Oh yeah I know it's you know it's considered Oakdale's you know how like a lot of cities have like a sign. Yes. It's considered the cowboy capital of the world That's the that's the actual sign. I think I've actually seen that Yeah, and the rodeo is a big deal the whole week is the world's greatest cup of coffee, right? But I've done it so many times that as I got older My friends and I we would leave town when the rodeo comes in because it's just too crazy. Yeah, it's too much too crazy Do they do the bull riding everything everything that's that's

that's the craziest sport I mean I don't understand one of my best friends that I was like this guy's the dudes that do that they're the sides of their balls like I don't know roping was my favorite to watch I think that's the cool team roping were yeah we're two guys out and they have to get a calf as fast as you can That's so they they release the calf at the same time that the two horses come out and then and they have to do it Yeah, one gets the legs one gets the horns. And so it's like I like it because you have like it's a team You know I'm saying you have to do it and then like high skill Yeah, the skill of that is pretty wild to watch. That's cool. Yeah, so I like that

That's the whole bull thing, you ever watch videos of animals versus machines or whatever, and you'll see a bull, like when they do the running of the bulls or whatever, and people will get in a car, and a bull will flip a car with his horns. He'll pick it up, like it's a toy. That's a crazy animal. Jump on that thing back.

It'll flip in two sides. No, you gotta be pretty tough to be doing that. Not gonna do that. Not gonna do that. Anyway, speaking of bull, let me incite a little bull anger inside of you guys. You guys see what California just passed? The pronoun thing?

No, I mean, yeah, but that's not really what it is. Always up to no good. Oh, dude. Have they done anything? It's not that easy. No, it is. It is, but here's, okay. So Calif, so, so our governor, our wonderful governor, Gavin Newsom signed AB 1955,

which bans schools from making any rules requiring parental notification if a child identifies as transgender. So if a school says, Hey, if a kid comes in the class, a fourth grader comes in and says, hey, I'm another gender. Can't tell the parents? You can't make that a rule that like you have to tell the parents? The school cannot make any rules that say, listen, you need to tell the parents if this happens. They've actually said, no, that's illegal. You're not allowed to do that.

What? Crazy. This doesn't even make sense to me. It's uh, they own your kids Obviously you have your knee-jerk reaction and now have you put yourself on the other side and try to Logically unpack. What is it? What would be the purpose or why would you even pass something like that? Because you're the the mentality is you're protecting the child from any potential, their parent, maybe they're scared to tell their parents. So we need to protect the child from their parents. I'd love to see- But you're talking about, these are minors. These are minor children. And this doesn't mean like, okay, I get if there's signs of abuse, if there's signs of neglect, like that,

and those laws all exist. Are you reading the bill, Doug? No, I'm not. I'd love to see how many of these actually pass, because they always get like certain, really. Yes. So it's going to be enacted. It's done.

It's signed. Because most of what he always says, I mean, he's always like kind of pandering to that very specific demographic in all of these like pie in the sky ideas and everything. But then it just kind of dissipates later. This is nothing ever gets crazy to me. And I know there's bad parents out there. I get all that, but, uh, I'm sorry.

The school does not own your children. These are minors. And if they're coming to the teacher and saying anything that, uh, any kind of dysphoria or depression or anxiety or whatever, tell me, tell me the parents need to know everything. It's their child. This is crazy. It's insane. It's crazy.

Are we still on a, what's that called when everybody leaves your state? Oh, Exodus? Yeah, is that happening still in California? I know it was, and I know it broke records around the COVID time and stuff like that. Are we, is California still bleeding people at that rate? I don't know, that's a good question.

Yeah, I haven't looked at that in probably over a year. But yeah, maybe while Doug looks that up, so what this did for me is I looked up some, because of this, what's going to happen is you're going to see, I'll use the word exodus again, you're going to see another exodus outside of public schools. Already we're seeing parents take their kids out of public schools and homeschool them or use alternative education and record numbers is more than ever. And I think passing this, you're going to see a huge amount of parents. Like one of them was like certain vaccine requirements.

Then they took out exemptions. You saw lots of parents leave the schools because of that. Now they're doing, now with something like this, I think you see more parents take their kids out. And so I looked up stats on homeschooling because as you guys know, we're going to be homeschooling our two youngest, I have a three year old and a one year old. And there's a lot of misconceptions around homeschooling.

I had a lot of misconceptions around homeschooling until I trained a couple clients who were very big in the homeschooling community, homeschooled their kid and it totally blew all my misconceptions out of the water. Like a lot of the things I thought were true just were not true. But I pulled up some stats on homeschooling. So we actually have decades of research and homeschooled children do better generally academically. They are far more likely to retain their parents values.

This is a big one. So if you want your children to have similar values to you. It's kind of obvious, right? Obvious, right? Cause you're not putting them in a state sponsored school and trying to impose other values. National Home Education Research Institute studies, and some of these were done by a Dr. Ryan Ray, show that, because a lot of what's one of the big criticisms, socialization.

What about socialization? Things you can actually measure, communication skills, community involvement, tolerance of different kinds of people, homeschool children do better. So a lot of the stuff that's out there around homeschooling versus, you know, public schooling, whatever, it's false. It's actually false. The kids actually do better when they're homeschooling. And I think a big part of it, and I'm not going to be, I'm not going to say

it's because public schools are terrible. Although I think a lot of them are, I don't think all of them are. I think a big reason why homeschool kids do well is because parents are just more involved. I think that's a big part of it, right? A hundred percent. You know? Because a lot of times what parents do with traditional education, and we saw this during

COVID, is they drop their kids off and then they pick them up. During COVID, a lot of parents saw what their kids were learning and a lot of parents were like, this is what? What is going on here? This is stupid. And why are we doing it this way? So that caused a big exodus as well. So. Is this all stuff coming from that book, and why are we doing it this way? So that caused a big exodus as well.

Is this all stuff coming from that book, Far From A Tree, that Jessica talked about? No, no. Oh, I thought that's where it's from. She was recommending to read that, and it was in line with some of our diet topics and stuff like that. Are you not familiar at all?

No, I think she's telling you, because she probably told me and I forgot. Remind Sal. She was texting me that she would be good for that. I thought for sure that it was because you were- What's it called? Oh, she did show me this book. Yeah, She was texting me that like she would be good for that. I thought for sure that it's cuz you What's it called? Oh, I didn't show me this book. Yeah Now I'm getting it right when she tries to get you to read something that that doesn't happen then it gets sent over to me so it is to my husband won't read this

Dude, you know, I'm really curious about is the heavy metal tampons. Oh, my note for that? What? Yeah, I saw these notes and it's like, I just have a picture of this in my mind and I want to know if it's what I'm thinking. It's not that kind of heavy metal, unfortunately, Jesse. They tested, so there's a huge gap when it comes to testing and regulation for certain products. Skincare products, although there's more testing now is one of them. Perfumes, haircare products, because we don't consider the skin as a way to absorb things, although they do or bring things into the body. And and, um, feminine hygiene products. So tampon obviously goes inside your body.

The vagina is very permeable. Uh, it can absorb, uh, certain things and whatnot. And tampons typically don't get tested for things like heavy metals. So there were some third party organizations that did some testing on tampons and found a lot of them had alarming, alarmingly high amounts of heavy metals. Yes, which, you know, they build up in the

body, they cause problems. Weird that that wouldn't be part of that. Like that wouldn't be a step, I mean, of regulation like you would put in there. No, and you think about it like, have you, you know, if they're made with cotton or other compounds that are grown or whatever, like they're sprayed with pesticides,

they're sprayed with certain things and that gets in your body. You're not eating it, but it still gets absorbed in the body. So feminine hygiene products like. That's a crazy oversight, you know? Yeah, dude. Not testing for that right away. I know it's, and I don't know how alarming this is or not, but I also saw a video of this guy was testing out breast milk that was like, not breast milk, it was the formula. And it was testing it and took a

really high powered magnet to test for iron and metals. And sure enough like went over and like extracted these pretty significant pieces of metal yeah it so it like like shards almost that were like mixed in there and you're just like what that's crazy I mean it again I mean I know that there's gonna be trace minerals and whatnot but like that's pretty alarming I want to see that video that's yeah yeah it was it was gnarly that's pretty alarming. I want to see that video. That's yeah. Yeah. It was, it was gnarly. That's not cool.

No, it's not cool. I know, I know formula is pretty heavily regulated, uh, nowadays. Um, but I didn't know. Yeah. I'd like to see that video. Yeah. I mean, it could be a one-off thing. So it's like it, you know, and they're just, again, there's a lot of these

videos out there that are like put out for like, how much, how, again, there's a lot of these videos out there that are put out for alarming clickbait. And how much of that, how different is that than if you were to scramble some eggs in an iron skillet and then turn around and do this? Oh, I don't think you'll do that with an iron skillet. No. Not that. No, they were like, a ton of iron skillets. There's a little clump of quite a few shards of metal in it.

Right, I mean, is that not happening, though, when we cook in the iron skillet? Not like that. No. But to some degree, you do get some iron from your iron. Yeah. Yeah. And I know that that's why I'm wondering, like, I mean, I'm always like skeptical of like videos like that. That, I mean, it's even like, uh, yeah, who was doing, oh, is that it right there? Gary Brekho was doing the, uh, you know, he went hard on that's that's, and that's, that's formula that he's doing. Oh, that's not good. Yeah. that's formula that he's doing. Oh, that's not good.

Yeah. Oh, baby food, baby food. Oh, what's the difference? Yeah. Food. I'd like to see study on that though, but that doesn't look good. He's definitely pulling out pieces of metal. Yeah.

Yeah. That's weird. Oh, Gerber oatmeal. Oh yeah. You know, when they, when they add certain nutrients, uh, to foods to fortify them, sometimes they don't even, they don't consider bioavailability. It's just like, here's some. Do you guys think that like 50 years from now, when we look back, this will be kind of like our,

one of the big things that we look back and like, Oh my God, I remember when humans used to do this kind of like almost like what I mean, even though we still do smoke like crazy. So maybe it will be like that. I mean, what are, what are the things that we're going to look back 50 years and go like, that was crazy. We did that. Oh, I couldn't believe that. Well, nobody cared about that.

Nobody paid attention to that. Will this, this conversation be something like that? Like asbestos all over your house and you're just like, yeah, I have a big deal. I have a very bad feeling it's going to be around these things and the radiations they put up. Oh, the phones. Oh yeah. That's a good call.

Yeah, because it's on you all the time in your pocket. So it's next to your reproductive organs. It's also something that Bluetooth like penetrates to your brain. So it's so glorifying and all the positive things about it that are very rarely. Have you ever, I mean, have you guys seen like reports and there's some, there's controversy around this, right?

But reports were, you know, some women will carry their cell phone and their bra. And then there's like a lot of, there are people who are reporting that they're getting breast cancer on the side of the, where they hold their phone and there's some conflicting data. There's nothing conclusive, but it puts out a certain amount of radiation. And it does make sense to me that if it's always in the same place all the time, either on your boob or in your pocket next to your

reproductive organ. Yeah, just chronic exposure, very low doses of it. Or on your head next to your brain that there may be over years and years and years increasing a risk of cell mutations. So that's something that I think we're going to look at. You know what another one is? Yeah. I was talking with a buddy of mine about this.

Cannabis. I think we're going to look back and realize the dangers of cannabis. Now before everybody freaks out, not cannabis itself, but rather the stuff that's sprayed on the cannabis in- Oh. Yeah. Oh. Well, that's different. I mean, that's like, I cannabis in. Oh. Yeah. Oh. Well that's different.

I mean that's like, I mean why single out cannabis? Oh because I don't think people even pay attention. I think people go to the dispensary, they buy their. I mean no different than when they go buy broccoli or something else that's getting sprayed like crazy. Yeah but you can get organic and it's in the. You can get organic, it's all the same thing with weeds. They have.

Who checks it? Who's marketing organic weed right now? Oh you guys have no idea, that's a huge organic. It's all the same thing with weeds. They have marketing organic weed. Oh, you guys have no idea. That's a huge deal. 100%. Like when I was on my way, even when I was, when I was on my way out, I've never seen it. I've never seen it. Oh yeah.

Pay attention or ask, ask when you next time you go to a dispenser. You can have organic. Yeah. Oh yeah. A hundred percent. So when I, when I was on my way out, um circle, a network of people that were growers, were starting to transition all their farms into organic soil, no more pesticides,

like everybody was coming out with all, in fact, I was getting stuff shipped over these specific bugs that kill bugs instead of using any sort of sprays to actually put on the plant. Because you know they tested a bunch of cannabis and they found a lot of them high in heavy metals, a lot of them high in-

So here's what you have to be careful of, right? There's, I mean, here alone in the Bay Area, there's hundreds and hundreds of dispensaries, right? And they are the ones that label, this is organic, what about that? Now, they're supposed to go through a test and there's companies that that's all they do. Yeah. Like the, like Harborside does this, right? They actually take in the product and they run all

the tests on it. They could tell you if pesticides were used, if the kind of soil was used on it, anything like that. And then they're supposed to report that to give it back to the person. When the person goes to drop it off the dispensary, they have to show that report or share that. And so, and they'll get paid out based off of that. And if you are looking, and just like we like in the organic market with food, you pay a premium for something that is grown organic. So you know where this came from is that we have a family friend who was my age, a little younger, so early 40s. And he got the popcorn lung cancer from, and he would vape cannabis all the time. Now, the vape's different. Yes.

And so the conversation started there, like what kind of solvents are they using? It's in the vape, and of course the doctor says, I've seen this a couple times with younger people. And then it turned into conversations around just the fact that the cannabis itself has got oftentimes has chemicals and stuff like that. Yeah, this dude didn't smoke cigarettes at all, but vaped cannabis in early 40s. I mean, the only reason why I bring up that argument with you is just because I think that's no different than arguing it with any sort of vegetable. So you can find cannabis that's tested for all that. Yeah.

Oh yeah. 100%. And again, what I was finished, what I was saying was we were all transitioning into that direction of going full organic and everything like that. And then that you, what you would do is you go get run all those tests and then I would bring that pound and be like, I want a premium for this because I know they're so clean. Yeah. Oh yeah. Cause it's so,

the consumers are really aware though. You know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You guys, people that were like really aware though, you know, yeah Yeah, you guys have people that were like like I mean I wouldn't consider you guys like you guys and I've been the you Yeah, but that's just it you guys been a few you guys aren't like dispensary people that go like every heavy pot user Yeah, every the average dude or but that's what I mean is like in terms of food in comparison Like yeah, it took a while for the organic market, right? I merged her and that's really kind of I think the argument is like Yeah, it's there. It's there. It's there. It's there. It's just as popular in the dispensary weed world It's that you guys are just so disconnected from that You're more connected to a banana or broccoli and you know the pace of how that what that was

But it's been in the weed market for a long time. Oh good. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I mean, I don't disagree. I just looked it up myself the other day, like I said. Yeah, I don't disagree that that's, I mean that kind of, I think falls in the same, you know, like point that I was making with like

in 50 years from now are we gonna look back in all these, you know, Xenoestrogens and chemicals that we just said no big deal about and, you know, is that going to be something? And I would put that in that same. Yeah, I do, I do, I do think it's going to be around some of the cell phone radiation. I think that's going to be some big stuff. And I think it's going to be big stuff because they're going to fight against it because imagine if it came out conclusively, what that would do to the markets. So I think that, you know, that'll be one of those. Anyways, I want to tell you guys something.

Earlier we opened the episode about wearing running shoes or whatever. I looked up the other day, the origin of the treadmill. Do you guys know what the origin of the treadmill is? Ooh. Hmm. Give me a second. Can we get a, give me some hints.

Yeah, no, no. You guys get, like who invented, like why was it invented? I know, what year? Can you tell us the year? 1818. What? Yeah. Okay, so that makes a big difference. Was this for a horse or like an animal first or 1818?

Treadmills used by humans. Oh by humans. 1818? Wow. I mean, there's some evidence of similar rehab. I feel like it's one of those, what do you call those contraptions? It's like one of those crappy inventions you see in the eighties where it's like attached to like a rope and then it like turns this bucket, which then for electricity, it was made for some weird like a invention. You guys are kind of close. Oh, as I say, so generate some rubes.

It was used to reform convicts and these were huge wheels, like big hamster wheel. Convicts would get on them. They'd power them with their own energy. And then they would use the energy of the tread mill or tread wheel to either. Oh, look at that. Yeah, see? No way.

Yep. To either, you know. Whoa, that's like one huge wooden wheel that everybody's standing on. And they would use it to pump water or to grind grain. So convicts would get on this and they would do, they would use it and they, they would use the energy to do work. And it was, it was to reform. I asked this before Sal on the podcast.

I can't remember what you said or what we, what, like, what was, look how terrible it was by the way. Why don't we do stuff like this? I know they consider inhumane but they'll put someone in solitary confinement for almost a week. Why have we gone away from the we we already imprisoned tons of people why have we gone away from these ways of reforming and also doing something positive for society? I don't know. Why? Nobody has like a good answer for that? I think is a considerate inhumane or I mean. Which, okay, you know how.

It was banned in 1900 as cruel in. You know how ridiculous that is? Because I'm pretty sure, okay, I haven't done any long stints in prison, but I'm pretty sure. Wait, did you do a long stint? If I was in prison for say 10 years. I'd rather be working.

And I had an option to walk on a treadmill or whack weeds or stay in my room all day, I'll choose labor. Just clenching my cheeks. I would want to do that. So the idea that- You know what, that's a good point. If you gave them a choice,

they wouldn't be as inhumane. The choice is what we've always done versus this, which is now you can go work, and it's hard, but you can work. Guarantee 80 plus percent would choose a worse, would choose it. No isolation is awful. Awful. Yeah. So, so, but now back then it was terrible though, cause they would leave them on there for like eight or 10 hours.

Sure. They probably whipped them and did all kinds of other abuse to them too. Like I'm sure it was really bad. Yeah. But I mean, there's gotta be something right in that wheel. Just goes to show you, you know, people get on the train. Aren't all of our license plates done in prison? Aren't all the license plates feel like a prisoner on there? License plates?

Yeah, license plates are made in prison, I think. Oh, I believe so. I think so. I don't know. I'm just saying random shit. That's weird. Maybe I saw it in a movie or something. Hey, did you guys see this? Shawshank Redemption.

So are you guys, OK, so you guys, we've all seen this now. We've all seen this start to happen. I'm taking a left here. We've seen Elon Musk go from somebody that was just heralded as this pro, saved the climate, great guy, to, uh-oh, we hate him, media's after him. Get ready for. Media and technology after him. Get ready for media and technology loved him. Get ready for, he came out openly and massive, there's

a massive propaganda attacks or just the tax on the guy. He is debt. He is going to be donating $45 million a month, a month to a pro Trump, uh, super PAC. Wow. $45 every month, $45 million a month to a pro-Trump super pack. Wow. $45, every month, $45 million will get donated to that campaign, which makes him now enemy number one. He is now by far the largest donator.

He's now, they're comparing him with George Soros for the right, although he's richer than George Soros. Yeah. Crazy. That is. Is he just gonna live out of a bunker at this point? He's like how he doesn't travel Well, he doesn't have a home, right? So he doesn't have a he doesn't really have a you see that he says it's smart He's trying to someone's try to kill them twice. Yeah, I did see that I heard that I did see that which yeah

I don't doubt that. How do you guys feel about this? Do you think he made a smart decision stupid decision or do you think he's just the guy? I think he's just principled. I think he's just principle. I think he's just who he is. That's what I think. Yeah. I think if you, like you really seems to just do what he wants. That's exactly. Yeah.

He seems to do what he wants and really doesn't care if you like it or not. Right. So, and I mean, so far the guys, uh, I mean, I mean, the, for him seeing how much like free speech has been attacked, like I think it's, it's noble in that regard, whether you like his like political stance or not. What'd you say he's up there with, uh, most polarizing personalities? Who's like you who top five, you put Trump in there, you put Elon in there.

He is, but you know, he's polarizing. Yeah, it's just, yeah. What he's done is what people hate. If you hear what he says and you don't think he's polarizing, he's used in terms of his language. He's used to be polarizing but his language is not Yeah, there's people who have very there's a lot of polarizing language and attitudes But when you hear what he says Elon and you hear the stuff that he says, maybe I'm wrong But I haven't seen him say anything. That's like, oh he trolls all the time. He's like a master troller that in itself makes him Oh, yeah like oh he trolls all the time he's like a master troller that in itself makes him polarizing yeah that's a good point oh yeah yeah that's a good point he does have really cheeky tweets yeah

i mean i guess where you i don't really consider that i'm on the pro side so you don't you know i'm saying if you i guarantee we had somebody in here that's an anti you know i've never heard them talk about him like they just people i was just thinking of his interviews i guess like but you guys tweet he's like like trump he's very much so a loved or hated person. There's not a lot of in the middle. There's not a lot of people like, oh, yeah, he's seemingly a pretty cool guy. It's like, you're either like an Elon Bro, or you're like,

hate him. He's the worst human ever. That's how people see him. Most people. That's how I feel. It's funny and ironic, because a lot of those people I've talked to, and then they own own a Tesla and I'm just like, he's winning still.

I love that, yeah. You just gave him money. Yeah, I mean, I like it. It's pretty hilarious. I like him. I openly, if you remember, I don't know if I ever said on the podcast, no, I said it off podcast,

I like Trump way before he was, where he was today, like I used to, but when he was first talking about potentially running, I was a fan of him as like a person to run this country. But that has a lot to do with, I've always thought that the person that should run our country should be a really good business man or woman.

I just think that that's, when you think about the things that we need as a country and a nation, so much of those skills are the same types of skills and needed to be a billionaire. Listen, I'm gonna agree with you, but I'm also gonna disagree. You're right, and a lot of that is right, but there's one part that's missing, which is you also have to be a very effective political communicator because here's where Trump sucks. When shit hits the fan, he doesn't come out

and he's not a good, like, let's all come together person. He's like a let's get more angry. What you're saying is to be a good politician. I'm saying to run the country. I'm not saying he's a good politician at all. That's where he fails. He doesn't give a fuck. That makes him a bad politician.

But he's not bad at running the country. And that what you're saying right now has nothing to do with running the country. It does in a sense that if you get- Because the guy is the best, like the art of making the deal is his thing. Like that's what he's great at. You're right, and he did some pretty crazy

peace deals in the Middle East, he met up with North Korea's leader, all that stuff. But the part that you also have to, in order to be effective, you have to also be able to communicate in a way that doesn't drive people further apart. So like when the George Floyd thing happened, remember the first thing he came out and said, you, you loot, we shoot. Wrong timing. Yeah.

It's like, this is not, you know, maybe you might believe that. And I'm not a fan of, of people who loot or riot and destroy other people's businesses, but at that moment, we needed was someone coming out and call him things down. He's not that guy. He needs, he needs a, I mean, I mean, for whatever reason, I don't know much about the VP he chose, but he does need somebody who balances that out, who like in those times, it's like, like hey this is where we sit you out. I know exactly that's what I was hoping like a Vivek or RFK Jr. would be like his other pick. Vivek's a great example. Vivek is the opposite of him. Vivek does a great job. Almost too good. Yeah so to what makes you like very Obama- right there is a silver very silver tongue in every situation and it's like, you know again like

No track record. There's a lot of things are important to that. But again, I want the things I care about This is me I'm not talking about what you need to be a good politician What I care about is somebody who could run a business and I know that my what might come with that Someone who might be a little brass, might rub my... He's a bulldog for sure. But when I think of like how I want my country ran, I want us protected from other countries. I want a dude that stands up for us, that can talk to people that are evil, that are good, that are negotiate deals, that somebody can look at America as like a company and

saying that we need to be profitable and successful and like that that's how I want them to run. I don't know if this is true but there was a story that I don't know who was telling it. This was somebody in the military establishment was with him at a meeting when he was meeting with the leader of I forgot what insurgent group or something. Trump sat down in front of the guy and he said, we're going to, I don't remember what he said, something like we're going to pull out or over this next two week period, but if a single soldier is harmed, I'm going to take you and everybody else out.

And then you laid down a photo of the guy's house from a satellite. What? And he walked out. Yeah. You didn't hear that story? Yeah. I don't know if this is true, but, but one of the guys that was in a podcast with, yeah, it was, um, I was like, Oh, that's gangster.

Another Senator or somebody was in the room and they heard that. Yeah. I don't know if that's real or if that's just, I mean, and just so weird time. I don't know if anything's real. I hate this. I know. It's so stupid. That's something I think in the next 50 years, we'll look back and say things

about too, like remember when we used to believe stuff on the internet, remember when we used to believe what do you start going back in time and you start looking at a lot of like information that we received and you're just like, wow. You know what I wish he, you know what I would like to have heard him say, which I don't know if I would love to have heard him say the same people that killed JFK, the same people that killed Martin Luther King, the same people that killed Martin Luther K, uh, Malcolm X, X, tried to kill me and they missed.

I don't know if that's true or not, but I could see that really uniting people. Absolutely. Yeah. Because I don't care which side you're on. That was a weird, that whole situation was very interesting. I'm going to take a left because I know Doug's over there. So squirming. interesting I'm gonna take a left because I know Doug's over there I brought up a Gottman stat the last one of the last times I brought up a cool so I don't remember what it was about oh is the long kiss thing right I don't know if any of you guys have even done that to me the other day and I squibbed out real fast.

I could hear his butt. I felt it coming. Another one that I saw them, they have such good stuff, man. I've definitely been going down the rabbit hole of their stuff again. And they had, they did this study on men that kiss their wife goodbye every morning to work live four years longer. Oh wow I saw that Courtney pointed that out to me she's like see this oh she did yeah I was like oh I thought a nice little reminder. How and why maybe just because it signifies better relationship? Yeah I'm

sure you just acknowledge I'm sure there's it's multiple sounds or it signifies you have a better relationship you have a about to. Yeah, I'm sure. You just acknowledge it. I'm sure it's multiple, so I'm sure it signifies you have a better relationship, you have a purpose, you know what I'm saying? You have somebody else that you care about yourself maybe. I bet it connects to a lot of things that would make for a longer, better life. I was raised where you say hi and bye whenever you enter and leave a room.

That's your culture too, very Italian Italian Filipino. They're like that. Like that's very much Irish. Goodbye. Yeah, me too. Just slip out. I'm sorry. I tell you that's been one of the hardest things for me to train is cause Katrina's family is very much so like you like that. Hi to everybody. Everybody. Yeah. Hi, bye and hug kiss every single person in the room. And it's just, it's like, it's so opposite. I'm so Irish goodbye guy. And so that's like polar opposites.

So I always get caught in this like awkward moment. Like naturally I wanna go, but then I'm like, I gotta go do this thing. You know what I do to my teenagers, my teenage kids, they hate it, they hate it when they do this. If I say goodbye to them, give them a hug, and they're kinda like, oh, oh, you know, whatever, bad mood or whatever like well

You never know. I mean this could be the last time Drive alone hopefully Did you guys see the other article that Jackie sent over this morning? Jackie sent over a good article, what's it like in the lines of this like, you know, living longer, marriage, stuff like that. Did you see it with beards?

Yeah, pull up, Douglas. Oh, I saw. Oh, people, men with beards. They're more stable or something? Yeah, they're more likely to be interested in long-term relationships. Yeah, more committed. And more committed.

They're more committed. Yeah. I mean, it does bring like a wizardly wisdom. Well, you know, women, when they, they like, they view men with larger beards as being better fathers as well. So there's some, there's some, some intelligence back and forth. Now, what do you think?

So I think it's cause you, it's like, I think when you're getting clean shaven, more like a professor. There's something about like's like I think when you're getting clean shaving more like a there's something about like Getting like clean shaven is like you I'm doing this to go present myself in the best What sharpest cleanest way where a beard is kind of like I don't give a fuck Yeah, I got logs to carry I got built I got bridges to build you say I got shit to do Maybe it's that or yeah, like you can actually go build something and you know, it like signifies

that you're like a rugged dude. Yeah. You know, on some level. Well, beards, I told you guys about, I told you guys about, there was this, there was this, this group that did studies on beards to find out. It was this sword thing, right? Wasn't that the theory? Well, they're trying to figure out why, why do, what's the evolutionary purpose of a beard?

Part of the argument was it displays health. So if you have a big healthy beard, you probably don't have, you know, mites and lice and you probably have good health. The other one, which they tested was that a big beard will, will, will help blunt any blows to the face. And since men historically are more likely to get into, you know, scuffles and stuff, so they tested this. They took, they took these, uh, I don't know what you call them,

dummies that were like, and they took a skull, and they covered it in different length beers, and then they dropped bowling balls on it to see the difference. And it did significantly reduce, it used to impact. It used to break the jaw, having a beer. Yeah, I remember when you brought that up,

and what I thought was so interesting about that point you made was, why is not every UFC guy rocking a massive? I know some of them are you know like they're back in the day like big country Yeah, you would think that everybody would if that was if that's true and like why would you not like I know There was immediately to get Saturday was a UFC fight It was a it was a free card. It wasn't a championship fight. But one of the girls that was fighting, she was fighting with fake eyelashes. And like in the first round, got

punched in the face and he goes flying off. So she's got one fake eyelash on and one that looked so ridiculous. And what kind of coach lets their fighter go out with fake eyelashes on, of all the things. Like, cause those things, cause that could easily get, come half off and be stuck in her eye and like jab her own eye. I thought that was so weird. Yeah. It is very strange.

Yeah. Yeah. That was a fight. Yeah. Rose knocked it off. You know, what this makes me, what this reminds me of, I should have known that there was probably made all over the the place. I always I always this is okay this is a pet peeve the pet peeve for probably every fitness fanatic but

definitely every gym owner yeah that's ridiculous now you just look stupid. Look at the reason why Doug sorry keep going. What do they say? Like what's the whole is the whole cause I was curious. She thought she looked pretty with it on? Yeah Rose is a badass dude, dude. She is, she's awesome. She is. I'm throwing a clinic too. I, this is a big pet peeve of mine. People that come into the gym,

I used to hate this as gym manager, I hate it now as somebody that works out in a gym. If you come to the gym and you have a shit ton of perfume or cologne on, get the hell out of here. Get out. What are you doing here? You're making everybody dizzy. Yeah, but what if, I mean, and trust me,

I hate it more than anybody and I agree. Yeah, B.O.'s bad too. But you Yeah, but what if I mean, and trust me, I hate it more than anybody. Yeah, Bo's bad too, but you don't know. But what if what if someone's coming straight from their job all day? Like you have a how much do you put on? I mean listen listen, nobody hates cologne worse than I am like I Know I know I know I'm not a fan. I'm not a fan of cologne period. I don't give a shit where you are I don't like I do not like cologne. I don't like perfume. I don't like any of that crap and Katrina's brothers all wear it like I literally we go over there comes over to yes I have to shower I shower everything because guess what we have to hug when we see each other with a hug We live so then I smell like it and I drives me crazy

So I literally every time I visit her family I shower as soon as I get home no matter how How do I tuck my son out of it? I hate it. He's into it right now. I hate it. But my point is he thinks, I think he thinks that girls are gonna turn their head like, ooh. Do you know what happened?

I tell you what happened. Some girl said she liked the smell of it. Yes, because some girls like it. One girl said they like it, that's it. Now he's gonna wear that shit forever. Yes, and I'm like, dude, okay, if you're gonna do it, he's like spraying the air and then know, you can't do a direct contact That's like you're screwed. No now I'm like I'm gonna get a headache in the car. No, I can't Oh, man

I'm ax body spray ruined it for all Dude ax was the worst. Did you wear it? So you never work alone never even as a kid you were sensitive never you hated always hated it Did you wear any cologne? No, I the I ever did was, it was like aftershave. And so I'm sure it was a Home Alone inspired, you know? I just like shaved and then I was like, I wanted to feel the alcohol. I actually liked the burn when I was a kid.

Yeah, I liked it. When I first started shaving I thought it was cool. It was really, it was like my dad's brute. Brute, how are you? So I used to get brute for Christmas every year. This drove me crazy. Nobody wears that shit anymore. Relatives buy shit and says like the same thing. In the green bottle?

Yeah. No, I wore a, whatever you kid wore. I wore what every kid wore in the nineties. Tracar. My friend had Coolwater. Coolwater is the other one. It ended up in my cabin. I think I still even have it today.

Really? Do they even make it still? I've never even, probably not today. Really? Do they? I've never even probably not cool water. Do they? I don't know. I'm not sure, but it's like full and I've never even used it. Oh gross. Yeah. I don't, I've never, I've never been, I like the smell of clean. It was like a clean smell. Yeah. Like a laundry. Yeah, exactly. You just got out of the shower. Like do you guys use softener on your clothes? Exactly. Fresh laundry, you just got out of the shower. Do you guys use softener on your clothes? No. We do on our sheets, I think, is where

you can use the softener. Yeah, you want to take that off. Yeah, those are zero estrogens, big time. Yeah. Big time. I don't know if I can find it. You can't hide from all the chemicals in there. No.

Yeah. That waxy feel so nice. Yeah, I love that. That's a bunch of, bunch of. Remember, I'm the guy who wants to like, you know, plastic people hold me. You know I made it because I'm gonna have somebody who makes my bed every single day,

fresh sheets every single day. When I lived with, so I lived with my grandmother for a short period of time because my parents went to the Leaf all summer, so I lived there. This is the story I told you guys with my grandma. This is when I got into lifting weights and she's like, what do you wanna eat? And I'm like, I like steak,

so she'd make me steak three times a day. Anyway, she used to hang her clothes outside. She would dry all of her clothes outside. You know how nice, uh, sheets are when they're hung outside, dried outside in the sun. Oh, I'm sure. Oh yeah. Just nice crisp linen or whatever.

I wonder what that feels like. Actually, I don't think I've ever experienced that. Oh yeah. Kind of want to know. Yeah. You think it's better? I mean, there's clean air. Yeah. Unless you live next to now. Yeah. You think it's better? I mean, it's- Could be. There's clean air.

Yeah, unless you live next to like a pollution factory. Or like a farm where you all this- Unless your uncle smokes cigarettes in the backyard. You get all this pollen and shit all over. That'd be a nightmare for me. It's like an airport. That'd be a nightmare for me. So I'm like so sensitive to all that,

like pollen getting all over your bedsheets. No, she's to hang everything out there and then put it on, you know, like almost every other day, watch my sheets, it's like, oh, this is so nice. Yeah. Yeah. I'll have to try that.

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creatine, the most by far important thing to consider is what time is the time that you would most likely be consistent with your creatine usage. Now, creatine has been around for a long time now, since the 90s. It's one of the most studied, if not the most studied, ergogenic supplement out there. Tons of benefits. We know it builds muscle and strength indirectly, probably aids in fat loss through the metabolism boosting of the muscle building.

It's got pro health benefits for your organs. It's good for your brain, cognitive function. It's a longevity supplement. Methylation benefits. It's great. It's just across the board, everybody should probably take creatine unless there's some weird contraindication. But when you look at, now that it's been around for decades, in my experience with creatine, the biggest challenge I had with clients was consistency.

How do I get them to take this on a regular or consistent basis? People just aren't good at this. Even with prescription drugs, we talked about some of the studies on that where one of the studies on that were one of the biggest issues with people who have to take medications. They just don't take them when they're supposed to take them consistently. They don't finish them out. So you just pick the best time, whatever's going to be the most consistent.

If it's next to your bed stand. So you take it right when you wake up or where you brush your teeth, you don't brush it, you take it or attaching it to your workouts. Cause you don't miss your teeth, you take it, or attaching it to your workouts because you don't miss your workouts. That's most important. Now, second would be, now this is splitting hairs, but there's some evidence to suggest that you, you absorb a little bit more,

or utilize a little bit more, or it gets used more post-workout. Totally splitting hairs. Yeah, it's not, I mean, I personally, the hardest part is the consistency. Yep And the the most consistent I ever was was carrying it in my gym bag and it just becoming a thing that I did either Pre or post workout because it was with me like that. Otherwise, oh shit. I forgot yesterday or whatever So I think convenience and and consistent the challenges is also is that creatine an efficacious dose is anywhere between

For women probably three grams for men probably around five grams, right? More muscle mass, more creatine. Some studies will say as much as 10 might even have some benefit. But I'll typically recommend three to five grams. If you take it in capsule form, that's like five capsules. Otherwise you have to take a power, a scoop of powder. So in my personal opinion, what you're going to start seeing a lot more of, and I think you're

starting to see this, are ways of utilizing creatine that allow people to be more consistent. Because people don't like to take a handful of pills. And people definitely don't like to take a scoop of flavorless powder in their face or mixed with their water, but otherwise it's like just pick the time you're going to use it most consistently. And this is, this is a supplement, you know, that

I think you shouldn't miss. It's one that'll benefit almost everybody. And it's one you'll feel. You'll definitely feel if you take it. Next question is from coach Lamar TMT. When following your programs, is it okay to replace some upper body movements with lower? I noticed there are too many upper body exercises and as a female I have a well developed upper

body and only want to maintain it. This is such a myth about the programs. Too many. There's more muscles in your upper body that we're targeting so it feels like there's more upper body focus than there is lower bite force It's not whatsoever. In fact, if you look at any of our full body based maps programs they all start with lower body which yeah because of the Intensity of the lower body exercise. This is like is she considering a deadlift like a back exercise, you know I've heard that it's not even that you have you just think

Shoulders upper back lower back chest bicep tricep. Yeah, you know, this is quads hams glutes Yeah, so that's what people think legs They think quads hams glutes and then you think upper body everything that I just went across like so people are like there's just so much upper body it's like The the programming is designed to be the appropriate amount of volume. If you take out something in the upper body and then you add more to the lower body, then you were out of that range. And most people that, and this is why we always recommend that somebody follows it to a T one time. And then, and then so you can see the results from that. And then if you want to pull and change, go for it. But at least you now have a baseline of why we programmed it that way. And then, and then so you can see the results from that. And then if you want to pull and change, go for it.

But at least you now have a baseline of why we program it that way. And then you can go test your theory. Trying to get the loudest muscle building signal possible, a systemic muscle building signal, and, and you know, that's why it's sequenced that way. We're not just, and I, and I get this too, because what probably a lot of women are used to is a lot of these like programs where it's all legs. And then it's like two like bicep and tricep exercises and that's it.

And that's what I've seen that, you know, pretty, and it's very ineffective. And to the point where it's just like, you know, you're doing all this volume, but it's like really insignificant exercise that don't really move. It's also the lower body exercise exercises tend to be more taxing on the way more entire body too. So comparing sets of barbell squats. So comparing yeah comparing three sets of barbell squats to use where you were going to four sets of lateral raises and four sets of you know chest flies and four sets like rows like those four sets of squats are more taxi on

the body than all of those combined. So it's like, you have to understand that too. So. I say, I will say this. When you first start working out, you want to, as a trainer, I'm speaking as a trainer, when I individualize a workout, I will gear volume around correctional exercise first.

In other words, what I'm trying to do as a trainer is I'm trying to get you to move better so that the exercise is more effective. Changing the volume for aesthetic purposes where I'm looking at your body or you're looking at your body and you're like, I want to develop more here, I want less here, I want this to be rounder.

That happens later. That's when you're experienced. That's when you've been working out for a while. When you get beginners or you are a beginner or you've been working out for less than a year and you're like, I want to develop, I want to take volume away from here and put it over there, probably not a good idea. You need to develop balance before you work on aesthetics. But if you're experienced four years, five years consistent, then you can start doing something like what this person's suggesting, which is taking volume away from some areas and adding it to other areas.

But in the very beginning, if you do that, what you're probably going to do is create problems. You're probably going to create imbalances and dysfunction. And then you're not going to not, not only you're not going to get the body you think you're going to get, but you actually get, you'll actually go worse. You'll go backwards.

So if you follow one of our programs, follow it the way it's laid out. If you're very experienced, been working out consistently for a while, then you can start to play around with them a little bit. Well, this is what makes me nervous is it's coming from a coach. So they obviously consider themselves experienced, which is why they're asking that. I mean, if they're a personal trainer, I just look at their Instagram, biochem student and a personal trainer. And so I'm assuming that they consider themselves an experienced lifter and is wanting to know

where they would replace. Well, here's what I would do. If this were appropriate, what I would do is I wouldn't eliminate exercises. That would be the last thing I would do. But what I would do is take sets away and add them to other exercises. But I wouldn't go too far because there is a upper limit of volume

that an area can handle. But so example might be this per, let's just say this person is got great chest development to carry. I'm going to drop a set in my bench press day and I'm going to add one more set of hip thrusts or squats. So something like that. And that, that is good advice because if we're already trying to tell this person to follow it as a T, probably not do anything, but if you're going to modify it,

I would ease my way into modifying it like that versus eliminating an exercise completely out of the upper body and then now adding a whole other three to five sets of another exercise to a lower body. I mean, for sure, follow the program first to a tee. Trust that maybe we kind of know what we're talking about a little bit. Next question is from Lift To Live. If I have a specific goal of reaching the thousand pound club, deadlift, bench, and squat, is there any point you would suggest using tools such as a belt or straps? All right, let's be very clear here. Wearing a belt and especially wearing wrist straps, you'll lift more weight.

Yeah. So if all you care about is the number on the bar, it's going to help. Then you're going to lift more weight, right? So a belt, uh, creates good artificial core stability. So the typical lifter who's experienced could probably add 20 to 50 pounds to let's say a squat or a deadlift, maybe more to some people. Just because they're wearing a really, really good belt. Wrist straps can sometimes do more than that, especially if your grip

isn't so strong, but what does that mean? Right? What does that mean exactly? I can lift more with this tool without the tool. I can't lift more. When I train clients, I stayed away from using belts and definitely wrist wraps because I wanted their strength to be the kind of strength that they would feel and exhibit in the real world.

Yeah. Like, you know, you're not going to wear a belt in the, in the real world when you're moving a couch or whatever. I'm not to mention it changes recruitment patterns. Like a belt teaches your core to push out. Whereas core stability without a belt tends to draw in a little bit. So very different. Um, and once you go down that path, it's hard to reverse out.

It's treating it like a sport. So now you're looking at this as like, you know, means to an end, like I'm going to do, um, you know, what's best for me to move weight, not what's best for my body. And so like, you're going to make compromises with that. So if you're in a competition setting where they allow you to have straps and a belt it's advantageous for you to learn how to effectively do that and you know

Press your body to the degree that you can to squeeze the maximal potential out of like you're lifting But if you're gonna ask whether this is a good idea It's not a good idea because you're gonna create dysfunction in in real world situations that you're gonna have to deal with forever. So I'm gonna, I'm gonna take the other side of this and say use them, because the way the way the person is presenting this question. They want to hit the number. That's right. I have a specific goal of reaching 1,000 pounds, and if you have the ability to use straps or belt, that 100% is going to assist you getting there faster, period, end of story. Now, if you asked me a question like, do I think it's a good idea or do I think it's what's best for you or could this affect

recruitment patterns? Like, okay, then we go down the rabbit hole of all the reasons why it's probably in your best interest. Wear a bench shirt. Wear everything. I mean, well, that's exactly like, if I had a goal, I want my name on the board, you know? And the only way my name's getting on that board is when I cross over that thousand pound and I am allowed to use any and all tools, then that's the desired outcome. It's to reach that goal, but just be aware.

But we already talk about all this stuff already. So I feel like this person probably knows that if we were to be asked, do we think using straps and belts is a great idea, we've probably, they've already heard us probably talk about that a million times, but if I have a very specific goal, I want to risk a thousand pounds. Wrap your knees, you know?

Yes! Like do all the things all at once. Oh, knee wraps, you'll add more weight. This reminds me, in the 90s, there was, I can't remember his name, I was just trying to look him up, can't remember his name. He used to be in the bodybuilding magazines because he would do these crazy feats of strength

where he would bench press like a thousand pounds or curl like whatever, but he had a spotter that was holding the bar and helping him. So it was like you and your spotter are doing the lifts. I mean it's still impressive. I couldn't do a thousand pounds. There was a 24 hour fitness guy that used to do that all the time. You remember him? Yeah he used to put like seven plates on each side for the bench press. You know he used to have three people. He used to have two spotters on the side and the person over the... Two pulling and then the one guy... You have to remember he first started the podcast. I took a video of him. I do.

Yes. I know exactly who you're talking about. Yes, it was this little white guy that used to do it and he was probably a hundred and seventy-five pounds at best and he would seven plates on each side of bench press. But he'd have his buddies help him? Oh, yeah. No, he would pick random members, whoever was willing. And I remember, we used to have to,

I checked him at the gym one time saying like, hey, you can't do this. And he was, what do you mean? Like, you can't call on some random person who's working out. And he would tell him to lift it? Yeah, he'd come help him. And I'm like, that's how you hurt,

if you don't hurt yourself, you're gonna hurt one of these members. So I was like, you can't lift it bro by yourself, you don't be doing that right now. What are you talking, you can't tell me, I can't do it, bro, by yourself. You don't be doing that right now. What are you talking? You can't tell me I can't do it. Okay. Whatever guy.

Yeah. Some guys do that girls. I don't never see it. What? That's not a chick thing to do that for sure. Next question is from more life. Jojo, can you share your, who your ideal GLP one client is for the coaching you are offering lately?

You have had conversations with listeners who you think are and are not ideal users for GLP-1s. Good question. I like this question. Okay. So, I do think that there's a broad spectrum of people who would be appropriate users of GLP-1s, but we're not going to target

or we wouldn't want to work with the broad spectrum because talking to people like Dr. Tina, she uses GLP-1 sometimes for people with autoimmune issues and inflammatory issues. That's not what we're looking for. What we're going to look for is what most people are going to be using GLP-1s for, what they're advertised for, what you see the media talk about them for, which is to lose weight.

I would want to work with someone who's struggling, who's struggled with weight loss for a long time and who has a significant amount of weight to lose. Not 10 pounds, 15 pounds. Not little aesthetic. No, not someone's like in shape for summer, but someone who's like, yeah, I got 60 pounds to lose.

I've struggled with this on and off my entire life. I have a tough time with food. It went a really tough relationship with it. I've, you know, I've worked with coaches, I've tried doing this, tried doing that, and I just, it's really hard for me to get a grasp of, then I could see, that's when I could see this being something

that would be a valuable tool along with coach. Do you have a minimum? Like would you say more than 30 pounds? Yeah, yeah. I think it's a good number to say that. I think it's a good number. You know why I'm afraid of giving a number though? I know, I know it's generic. No, no, more than that. I remember this with the gast number. I would say that. I think it's a good number. You know why I'm afraid of giving a number though? I know, I know it's generic.

No, no, more than that. I remember this with the gastric bypass people I worked with. Other people try to put weight on just to get that number. Yes. No, I remember too. Do you remember that? I got hired, I'll never forget this, I'll never forget some lady coming in,

probably like, I wanna say 60, 70 pounds overweight. She had to gain weight to do it, right? She hired me because she wanted me to help her put on more fat so she could qualify reach the whatever the benchmark was to qualify for it getting covered by her insurance to do the um. That's more common than you think. I did yeah I remember the first time that happened I thought this is insane. No I won't do that. That's what I'm afraid of if I give's what I'm afraid of. If I give a number I'm afraid somebody listening is like oh I'm 20 pounds

overweight. I know. Cool I'll just let loose. Well no we're not gonna by the way we're not gonna see that. We're not gonna go through the list and be like oh this person's 28 pounds so they can't this person's 30. I'm just saying generally speaking you would prefer to see somebody who is at least 30 pounds or more overweight. I think it's also easy to tell you who I wouldn't want using a GLP-1. If you have a history of disordered eating, uh, in the realm of anorexia, bulimia, no, like you weren't GLP-1, using a GLP-1 is going to help you avoid food or starve yourself.

That's not the person I would work with. Uh, I definitely don't want this with somebody who's a repeat bikini competitor or bodybuilder. Just trying to get ready for the summer. Definitely not someone looking to abuse a substance just to get to their goal faster. I agree, and I do think there is a use case. I mean, so I started it back up two weeks ago again.

I didn't announce it on the podcast, but I started it with a much lower dose just because I actually noticed when I came off, I noticed my psoriasis started to creep back up. Yeah, that's so weird. So now I'm kind of curious of like just for those reasons. So I don't want it to be really crushing my appetite. So I took a much milder dose, like half of what I was. Uh, and I, and I'm only on week two. So I'll report back as far as what I noticed with my psoriasis. If there's studies currently going on right now

with GLP-1s for automeu. That's what interests me about this. So now, so my point of bringing that up was that I do see that there is, and obviously I don't need to lose 30 pounds or more, so I do see there's applications for certain people, but I think what the people were targeting that we wanna help for this group of 50 people

or say that we're gonna take through, I think we're looking for people want to help for this group of 50 people that are say that we're going to take through. I think we're looking for people that have been struggling with, with weight loss for a very long time. And also, also full disclosure, this is going to give us a lot of insight in terms of the challenges that people are going to go through because, uh, we don't have experience working with people who've used GLP and we have lots of experience working with people who want to lose weight and improve their health and fitness tons, decades, but we don't have a lot of experience working with people who've used GLP and we have lots of experience working with people who want to lose weight and improve their health and fitness, tons, decades, but we don't have a lot of experience

working with people with GLP-1s. So part of the value of this is also for us. I don't know what challenges are going to, that these people might potentially encounter that we are different than the ones that we've encountered in the past with people. Maybe there are no different challenges, but maybe there are new ones and I want to be able to speak to them on the podcast and it's going to allow us that

opportunity, which by the way, it's, I think you could still, if you're interested, right, it's coachglp1.com. You can still do it. Coachglp1.com. Look, if you love the podcast, we have a lot of free guides at mindpumpfree.com. We have one that teaches you how to squat like a pro. It's free lot of free guides at mindpumpfree.com. We have one that teaches you how to squat like a pro. It's free. It's again, mindpumpfree.com.

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