Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 2393: Tips for Losing the Last 5 Stubborn Pounds, When to Do a Deload Week, the Relationship Between Sitting & Low Back Pain & More

Episode Date: August 2, 2024

In this episode of Quah (Q & A), Sal, Adam & Justin answer four Pump Head questions drawn from last Sunday’s Quah post on the @mindpumpmedia Instagram page.  Mind Pump Fit Tip: The ONE thing you can do to simultaneously improve your cognitive function, help you build more muscle, and burn more fat. (2:26) Kids say the darndest things. (14:07) Going down the Jesse Ventura rabbit hole. (14:56) Is Justin the best or worst storyteller in the world? (17:41) Such an American idea. (24:26) The ultimate insurance scam. (26:26) The science of liquid breathing. (29:31) Dogs can smell stress and alter their behavior.  (32:41) An elephant that paints! (34:15) The commonalities between leadership and coaching. (41:24) Why the peptide GHK-CU is so good to use on your skin. (55:25) Shout out to Presumed Innocent on Apple TV+. (1:00:32) #Quah question #1 - Why is it so hard to lose the last 5 pounds?? What to do?? Even less calories?? More cardio? (1:03:21) #Quah question #2 - Should I program scheduled deloads or just go by necessity? (1:08:49) #Quah question #3 - Could long hours of sitting at work affect my hamstring strength and be a cause of lower back pain during lifting? (1:13:28) #Quah question #4 - What are trends in the fitness market that you see and would recommend someone to invest in to create passive income? (1:17:45) Related Links/Products Mentioned Visit Organifi for the exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Promo code MINDPUMP at checkout for 20% off** Visit Entera Skincare for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! ** Promo code MPM at checkout for 10% off their order or 10% off their first month of a subscribe-and-save. ** How to build a Profitable 7 or 8 Figure Coaching Business with Jason Phillips and Adam August Promotion: MAPS Bands | MAPS 40+  50% off! ** Code AUGUST50 at checkout ** Probiotics’ Effects in the Treatment of Anxiety and Depression: A Comprehensive Review of 2014–2023 Clinical Trials Mind Pump #2060: Maximize Fat Loss With Continuous Glucose Monitors: Kara Collier Reels of Justice Watch the Fireworks as Alaska Town Hurls 13 Cars off a Cliff The Abyss (1989) - IMDb Can Humans Breathe Liquid Like in The Abyss? - Today I Found Out Dogs can smell human stress — and it alters their own behavior, study reveals Suda - The Painting Elephant Mind Pump # 2172: Five Commandments For Successful Personal Trainers Regenerative and Protective Actions of the GHK-Cu Peptide in the Light of the New Gene Data Visit Caldera Lab for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Promo code MINDPUMP at checkout for 20% off your first order of their best products ** Watch Presumed Innocent - Apple TV+ Visit Hiya for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! ** Receive 50% off your first order ** Mind Pump # 2372: Five Steps To A Faster Metabolism Reverse Dieting: What Is It and Should YOU Try It?? | MIND PUMP Reverse Dieting 101 | MAPS Fitness Products Mind Pump # 2015: How To Apply Advanced Training Techniques To Build More Muscle How to Fix Anterior Pelvic Tilt (BECAUSE SIT HAPPENS!) | MIND PUMP How to Fix “Low Back” Pain (INSTANTLY!) | Mind Pump 3 Simple Exercises to Alleviate Your Back Pain - Mind Pump Media Mind Pump # 2385: Five Reasons Why You Should Hire A Trainer Mind Pump Podcast – YouTube Mind Pump Free Resources People Mentioned Jason Phillips (@realjasonphillips) Instagram Drew Canole (@drewcanole) Instagram Don Cardona (@dc.fit1) Instagram

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You ready? Improve your gut health. Having a healthy gut makes you think better, improves your mood, enhances your ability to build muscle, burn body fat, even improves your sleep. This is something oftentimes people negate. Gut health, it's tied to all those things. You think the awareness on this is growing

or is it kind of plateaued? I feel like two, three years ago when we first started talking about it, it was exploding. And I don't know if it's just me being in our bubble and of course we still hear it, but do you think like awareness to everybody else is still? I think people are still oblivious.

Yeah, I think it's growing in our space. I remember when we first started the podcast and we talked about gut health. Nobody was talking about it. And all the muscle heads and athletes and whatever, it was like, didn't make a difference, who cares, right? But now we have lots of data to show just how important it is.

I mean, they discovered that there's a gut brain axis. So it's almost like a highway between the brain and the gut. We know that the gut produces a significant percentage of the neurotransmitters that make us feel good like serotonin, for example. In fact, the second most highest concentration of serotonin receptors is in the gut, first being in the brain. We show that it regulates things like inflammation, obviously nutrient absorption, recovery, hormones, you'll have an effect on hormones. So if you're like into building muscle, burning body fat, you want to

feel good, you can't ignore your gut health. It's literally how the outside world gets into your gut health. That's, it's literally how the outside world gets into your body and how your body reacts to the outside world. And if it's not healthy, what you end up with is this low level immune response. This kind of autoimmune like state where you're slightly inflamed, your body's a

little bit under stress and it just doesn't adapt to exercise. It doesn't adapt to diets as it normally would, oftentimes causes things like cravings and bad mood. They even show bad moods related to this pretty well. Yeah, it's weird. It's one of those factors that, you know, as I'm trying to troubleshoot as a trainer with one of my clients, why they're not getting any progress.

We didn't even look at gut health and didn't even look at some of these things that were just plaguing her internally. Once we started addressing that, it was crazy the response that she got after that in terms of like all of a sudden now, it's like her body now allowed her to lose body fat, allowed her to build muscle. And you know, that was like a key component that was holding her back, uh, which I still think a lot of people don't realize like how much impact that has on all the rest of the goals.

I wish we had research to like put a number to it. Like I think if we had the ability to tell clients like, you know, you will build 20% more muscle if we solve this first, or you'll lose fat five times faster if we could solve that. I think that people have heard about it, but I still don't think they're aware of how much it can impact their goal,

or even if they have a problem. Like how many times, I was just having this conversation actually with my mom, who her husband is dealing with a lot of autoimmune issues. And I was explaining to her how important, like, that she's paying attention to all the different stress that he has in his life,

because that's directly impacting that. Because she's like, well, he's going to the gym. I said, yeah, but how does he even approach his workout? Because he's got the old school mentality of like, crush, crush it. Like he was the last time we had talked, he was telling me, oh yeah, no, I don't leave the gym until I'm drenched in sweat and this and that. I'm like, yeah, pretty much the opposite of probably what you want to be doing

because you've got all this other stuff, all this other stress, this autoimmune issue going on and until you solve that, you're not doing yourself any favors by going to the gym and crushing it even more. So I think there's, even though there's somewhat awareness around it, I don't think people realize how much it impacts their goal, their weight loss goals or their muscle building. Listen, I'll tell you personally, this is my own personal experience is if you've listened to the show for a little while, you know that I've had, um, up and down

battles with gut health and more recently I've really been able to, to, to solve some of the issues that have plagued me for so long, but there's moments where it's better, moments when it's worse, now it's much, much better. But if you want numbers for me specifically, the difference between my gut being great and my gut kind of being off a little bit is about eight to 10 pounds of lean body mass and about one to one and a half percent body fat. Okay. Nothing else changed, just my gut health. That's a huge difference.

Now, and everything's controlled. I still work out. I still monitor my sleep. I take the same supplements. The difference is my gut health. Yeah. But yeah, this is definitely something that people are aware of now more so, but I think the mainstream still has no idea.

I think they think good gut health means that they don't get like crazy bloat or digestive issues. Right. But they could be much more subtle things that are going on. I mean, 20 years ago, I had a young lady that worked in one of my studios that was super ahead of the curve with this kind of stuff.

And she would talk about leaky gut syndrome. Now at that time, I also had a lot of doctors in my studio who were training with trainers, myself included. And I remember they would scoff when they would hear over her conversations, talk about leaking, they'd go, oh my God, leaky gut, that's so dumb.

That's doesn't even make any sense. That doesn't exist. Well, now we call it intestinal wall hyperprimitability, which is just leaky gut syndrome. They know now, oh, this is actually a real thing. We even have studies that show that people could take certain beneficial bacteria, lactobacillus and the

bifidotype bacteria, and it reduces anxiety, reduces depression. Wild. So they'll give people a probiotic and they'll have measurable improvements in their mood just from those types of things. What was it in the Organifize Pure product that is supposed to be good for, I remember we've been talking to Drew Canole,

good friend, also a partner of ours, and he was mentioning that Pure isn't just a cognitive thing that also improves gut health because of something that's in it. I had no idea, I don't recall ever talking and promoting it based off of gut health. It something that's in it. I had no idea. I don't recall ever talking and promoting it based off of gut health. It's always been something we promote

for like being sharper on the podcast. I like the way that makes me feel energy wise. So yeah, they're always ahead. They do such a good job, because Pure came out what, four years ago maybe? And they have things that have been shown to improve cognitive function, like lion's mane for example. Everybody's heard of that mushroom.

But then they have things in there like prebiotics that feed healthy bacteria. And they also have digestive enzymes, which if you take a digestive enzyme, certain ones on an empty stomach, those reduce inflammation. You take them with food, they help break down food. So this was the first time I'd seen a quote unquote, cognitive enhancing supplement

with compounds for gut health as well. Right. Because they understand that that is important for gut health. Yeah. So, I mean, kudos to them. They were the first ones to do it. Now you're starting to see other companies do the same thing, but so pure, when you take pure, there's no stimulants.

You just take it and you start to kind of feel better. Yeah. Um, and you start to feel sharper. Well, there's definitely a crossover there with gut health and cognitive ability. You know, like for me, even going through what through it, I've had to battle with gut health. It definitely affects my sleep, which is a huge factor with that. How that affects me the next day and the brain fog and then also to the recovery element of that, that's always something I'm battling and struggling if my gut is off. Well, I remember years ago when we first started

trying or experimenting with CGMs. So for people that know these are called continual glucose monitors. You put them on your arm and it measures your blood sugar in real time. Now you would expect with something like that, that everybody's going to respond to high glycemic index carbs or sugars predictably,

right, faster spike in sugar in a drop. And if you eat something without any sugar, say something with fat and protein or fiber, that you're not going to have much of a spike. But then you get these random people that would eat like an avocado and they'd have this spike in blood sugar. And they was like, what is going on?

And they're like, oh, no wonder I feel weird when I eat this food that's supposed to be healthy, I feel like not so good. I'll get anxious with the spike and then I'll get kind of lethargic with the drop. What's going on? That's the result of leaky gut syndrome or intestinal wall hyperpermeability. What happened with this person, because their gut was inflamed, when your gut is inflamed, it's like your skin.

If your skin is inflamed in red, then it's not gonna be as good of a barrier to the outside world. Dirt and bacteria can infect you through your skin because when it's inflamed, the cells create spaces in between them, almost like cracks and things get through. This is what happens with the gut. So this person ate avocados with an inflamed gut

for whatever reason. The avocado bits or whatever went through their gut when it's not supposed to, the body is like, what is this foreign invader? Let's develop an immune response to it. So what they got when they ate the avocado was an immune response. And that's what happens when you have a low level immune kind of response going on because your

gut's inflamed, you get weird things that happen with blood sugar, cortisol is elevated, anabolic hormones tend to drop. Your body, when it's slightly stressed all elevated, anabolic hormones tend to drop. Um, your body, when it's slightly stressed all the time, is not going to try to build muscle. Why would it want to make you depend on more energy and calories when you're in kind of this low level stress?

It's going to try and keep that down. And then on top of it, one of the biggest safeguards against, uh, stress is fat storage. Like for most of human history, if you had a lot of fat on your body, it The biggest safeguards against stress is fat storage. For most of human history, if you had a lot of fat on your body, it was a nice safety mechanism against famine. So what do you think your body does when you're slightly stressed? It promotes fat gain.

So for people who want to look better or whatever, it doesn't, it's not a good idea. I also feel like part of the reason why it's, whether it's not talked about or accepted by the general population as much is because it's this massive mirror for a lot of people. In my experience, 90% of the time, the food that they're having issues with is a food they love. It's their favorite.

Of course. Yeah. Cause they eat it all the time. Yes. And so- You saw my cheese results. It was bullshit. It's really- He's still in denial. Boy, it's so hard. I mean, so- You saw my cheese results. It was bullshit. It's really- He's still in denial. Boy, it's so hard.

I mean, I get it. I mean, and that's such a perfect example. Here you have somebody like Justin who's fully aware, right? But then you want to be in denial. You want to not accept that there's a really good chance it's that food that you think you're okay because you've been eating it your entire life.

But it's also most likely, because going back to your point about it happens when the gut is inflamed and then it leaks through, if it's a food you eat so commonly, all it takes is a time when that gut was inflamed like that and it could leak through. What's more common, a food that you eat once a year or a food that you eat every day, every day, it's more likely to be someone like that. And it's really tough for people to accept that that food that they've been eating forever is most likely the culprit. You just brought us to kind of another segment of this.

How weird was it working with people when it comes to diet, how attached people get to certain foods? Of course. Isn't that weird? Oh yeah. Like you'll have a client who eats a particular diet and they'll still always point out like, you know, I'll change my diet, but I'm not going to take out my chocolate or my morning baby. I gotta have my morning baby. Or wine. Try to take wine from the clutches of one of your clients. Especially that one because it's used as like a coping method. I mean, I get it. Yeah. That always crack me up. Anyway, I gotta tell you guys this new thing that my three year old does. So every day, this kid is just cracking us up. So he, um, if he falls, so this is, I've never taught him, I didn't show him any of this.

I don't know where he gets this from, but when he falls down or, you know, bumps his knee, he doesn't want anybody to know he hurt himself. So he'll fall down and he'll pop right back up. Walk it off. He'll pop up. Oh, I'm fine, I'm fine. So Jessica will always rush over. Are you okay, buddy?

And this is his response now. I'm not bleeding. And he walks in. I'm not bleeding. I'm fine, I'm not bleeding. I'm like, what is going on, dude? I like that. You know, remind me of that scene from Predator

where, what's that guy? He was a pro wrestler, Jesse. I'm sure. I'm sure. Where he gets hit by the shrapnel and the guy's like, you're bleeding. He's like, I ain't got time to bleed. I was like, I'm gonna show my kid that clip.

Wasn't he a governor for a hot minute? In Minnesota. Was that who? Oh yeah. He was a governor for a while. He was a senator, I don't know. Yeah, it was something like that. He was actually an office.

Governor. He was governor, you're right. He was the original conspiracy theorist. Sorry, I doubted you. Did you ever watch something like that. It was definitely an office. Governor. He was governor, you're right. He was the original Conspiracy Theorist. Sorry, I doubted you. Did you ever watch, you had to have watched the show. He was like, ultimate Conspiracy Theorist. Oh yeah, I did. That was the first one out there.

It was, I forget what it was called. I didn't know that. Yeah, I even watched Joe Rogan Explains Everything or something like that. He had a show with Duncan Trussell. That was another one where they actually went to some of these labs where they were creating viruses. Dude, and this was all like a decade or so ago.

These are old episodes in the early 2000s, right? I think, or maybe like 2010. Go back and watch. You can see the foreshadowing. Yes, he had this woman on the show and she was talking about gain of function research. Yes. And how, yeah, dude. She was living in like Costa Rica or something. I watched that. Yes. And she basically- She's warning everybody that there was gonna be a global pandemic. 2009. She said

they're going- Listen, there's a whole- I wanna watch it. There's a whole thing about this one episode where she goes, they're gonna plan a pandemic. They're gonna, they're gonna, they're gonna release this fight. I swear to God, they're gonna shut down the world. It's a self-fulfilling prophecy. Yes, dude. How are not more to God, they're gonna shut down the world. It's a self-fulfilling prophecy. How are not more people told about that then? Because they had care seasons back in 2009. Have you ever seen it, Doug? Everybody's over it. I did.

Oh, you watched it. I did see it. Yeah. Oh, man. I don't want me to lean on you to give me like stuff to watch. Oh, this has been a long time ago. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, that whole episode in particular was a little weird. Yeah. How she predicted everything.

So how is it structured? So it's like a documentary. It's like- It's a series in, I mean- Does he interview people? Yeah, he interviews people. And are they all tinfoil hat people? Yeah, so every topic is like,

it's like, what's it called when the, chemtrails, that'll be an episode. Well, cause he used to be a Navy SEAL, or an Army Ranger. Yeah. I thought he was a day WWE wrestler. He also was that. That's right.

That's an interesting guy. Let's look up his history because he was a legit badass back in the day. Have you ever heard of stories about him and Arnold on the set of Predator? No. Oh yeah. How they would mess with each other and talk about who's strong. Can you imagine the ego fest that was? So yeah, he's at a fight. He's matching the ego. Fest, that was.

So, yeah, look at his history. I think he was- Is that what he looks like right now? Yeah. Oh, wow. But that show- You know that John Claude Van Damme was in Predator for a minute? Then he left, right?

Yeah. He was the Predator. So, like, they originally put him in costume and it was like this really heavy costume and realized that it was just garbage. He was, he was this, he was in Navy underwater. He was hard to work with. Oh, so did he, did he bounce on it, Justin? He bounced on it.

Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah, Jean-Claude Van Damme was out like his, there was too much conflict with him and the director, I guess, for something. You know what's so funny you bring this up, I have to share this with the audience because I don't think the audience knows this story. And I think it's hilarious because I believe today, aren't you interviewing?

So let's give them a little love since I'm gonna make fun of you right now. What is the podcast? It's called Reels of Justice. Okay. So this podcast and correct me if I'm wrong, like basically it's set up like it's a prosecutor and a defendant. Yeah, like a courtroom. A courtroom.

And Justin is told, do you get the movie ahead of time? Yeah, so I usually get to pick. And so I kind of give them an idea. And then they formulate their argument. And then I try to kind of come in with my argument. And then, yeah, so I'm acting as either the prosecutor or the defender. Right.

Oh, for the movie. For the movie, right. So to make a case against or as either the prosecutor or the defender. Right. Oh, that movie. For the movie. For the movie. So to make a case against or for the movie. Against or for. Right. So this is, so Justin did this podcast. This is the second time he's done it, but he did this podcast like, I don't know, a while back, and I remember when Katrina like called and said, Hey, there's this

podcast and Justin's like, Oh yeah, I'll do that. Like he's totally up my alley. Yeah, it's totally up my alley. I'll do that. Right. So he's all, all game to do it. And so. What was the movie movie I'll see full characters so his Lost Boys okay so so yeah and they're doing Lost Boys which obviously a

favorite movie of Justin's and Sal's they talk about all the time right so Justin Justin gets dressed up for the interview because you're supposed to well I don't know if you're supposed to do that yeah they were supposed to do I thought so I was gonna be on camera it on camera. It was an audio only podcast. And a wig. Justin shows up in a wig and a full costume. Like a leather coat, dude. Like the whole thing, man.

I was just like, these guys are going to die when they see me. Yeah. Just audio? Just audio. Who did you dress up as? Michael. Or not Michael. what's the main guy? You were the main So you got that today right obviously not you're not a costume today, right so you're not showing up

Can we tell can you tell us what the movie is? What are you? Yeah, so I'm actually gonna be arguing that karate kid is Okay, don't do it. Yeah, I have to not that the Johnny's the real hero. No, come on. Yeah Dude, Danny LaRusso's a little bitch So I actually I actually think this is kind of like have you heard this case before I think you've made this on the show It's actually a compelling case. It is He comes into town. He steals Johnny's girlfriend.

He instigates all these fights. Even when they had a truce, he decides to break the truce. He wins with an illegal kick. Also, yeah. So Johnny shakes his hand, hands him the trophy at the end. He's like, great job. Congratulates him, healthy ego. Here's the thing, Danny the whole time is just like,

he just come, that guy that comes from nowhere and he's just disrupting all his group of friends. He's coming in, he's like the wild card that just came through town and is messing everything up for everybody. It's actually a rude G. I mean, have you heard of an anybody else who's done something like that? It's a pretty original idea for a podcast. What? Oh, to defend? Yeah, no, I think that's when Justin first told me about it, I'm like, it's not my

style or my thing, but I'm like, that's actually pretty brilliant. So, I mean, look at you. One of the most viral talk about conversations we've had on here is that letting people know that Rocky is not a love story and that you will defend that to the death. Sebastian Salon said it's a love story. You don't even hear in the background after the fight if he won or lost. It's all about Adrian and him. Come on. But that's my point though is that conversation has carried on to the audience for years now right since we've had that. And so it's an, I don't know, an interesting premise to do a podcast.

Yeah, that's cool. It's fun. I mean, it's fun to hear their ideas too. And they definitely challenge you. So I'm like, I'm gonna be getting grilled for this. What was the argument for Lost Boys? What were they trying to say? I was just kind of arguing for it

and just because I come from the nostalgia, it actually was shot and filmed in, in my hometown. Santa Cruz. Yeah. And, uh, they call it in the movie Santa Clarita. Santa Clarita. Yeah.

And so I, I don't know, I just have really good memories of it and I was trying to kind of portray it and, you know, in the light that I saw it and it was like, they're just like, just destroying it, you know, because it is so cheesy and it's like the, the, I don't know, the characters just didn't have all this depth and all. And so they get into the nitty gritty and the nuance of film and the way it was shot and how good of the actors were and all that kind of stuff.

So it's like, I actually learned a lot about the film, even just talking with them about it even more, but I just liked it because I grew up with it and I was a fan of it. What's cool, it's audio only, so you, I'm assuming, brought notes. You got notes and ready, right? Yeah, so last just I grew up with it and I was a fan of it. What's cool, it's audio only. So you I'm assuming brought notes and you got notes and ready, right? Yeah. So last time I just winged it, which was horrible. That's why I'm surprised to have me back on the show. I was like, really? You guys, bro, you get so much, my jam, so much grace.

Did you see the post on the private forum talking about Justin's a, Justin's a national treasure. The way he tells stories, he's like the worst storyteller in the world. Where is that? I haven't seen it on the forum right now. He's like the worst storyteller in the world. Where is that? I haven't seen that. It's on the forum right now. It's like a hell of people are. You guys always bash me in my stories, dude. They're horrible.

You know what it is? Yeah, you guys keep saying that. It's made me better. This is how you tell a story. I'm better than that. I mean, obviously I'm alone on this because everybody else thinks so. This is how you tell a story.

The beginning, then you jump to the middle, and then you jump to somewhere around the end, and we're like, what? How'd you get there? Yeah, what ended up happening? Choose your own adventure. No, you know what it is, you tell a story beginning then you jump to the middle and then you jump to somewhere around the end And we're like what how'd you get there? Yeah, what ended up happening choose your adventure? No, you know what it is. You tell good stories. You know what it is when stuff happens to you. That's crazy for some reason You don't tell us well, that's it. I because I can't get a word in edgewise Damn, that's he's got a good point. Where does a You're gonna fuck yourself one of these days. We're gonna turn these mics on, and it's just gonna be like this. Also, I don't want it.

Or we're gonna hold podcasts, what do you think, Justin? What do you think? What do you think? I have more fun destroying your guys' ideas. That makes me happy. Did you watch, have you watched all the seasons of Cobra Kai? No, I'm not caught up.

They just caught up, like there's a new season that's out that just dropped, but yeah, I don't know. I like I like the first and second and I was kind of going with those those Series, but it kind of fell off for me. Yeah, same got a little wacky. Do you know my little too much? I thought of my daughter super into it. She's a huge karate kid fan and then we were talking about that She's a massive rocky fan. So she has a rocky poster. I know, my 14 year old's making me, every day I'm gonna cry. She's got a Rocky poster in her room,

and then we were watching montages, like Rocky IV training montage, and we're watching it, and so my three year old again, he's watching it, and he goes, he has a tree on his back, he's so strong, and I'm like tearing up, like this is so, every child of mine likes it, it's so good. I got some, Justin Justin that you'll like. I just saw it.

Have you ever heard it? It's called, I put it in my notes, it's called the Glacier View Car Launch. No, what? Dude, Doug, pull it up so these guys can see a video of this. So I believe it happens every year on 4th of July. It's like a paid event. You get tickets where it goes.

And they literally launch cars off this cliff. And people all sit around watching just into one. Yes. Into like a ravine. Wow. Yes, comes down flying off. Like, watch, Doug will put the video on.

Did they put any bombs in them or anything? Well, I've seen some of them catch fire. So yeah, no, it's crazy that they even allow them to do this. Look at this. Wow. Every 4th of July, this is like a growing event, right? It's been going on for years now. And where are the cars?

Did they just leave them there Yeah, I didn't do that like I didn't look. Oh, that is so cool Wow I told everybody wants to see that Yeah, there's so many better videos than what Doug pulled up. Oh, hey, are you working over there or what? Oh, okay? Here we go. I feel like I'd want to get one of those Cadillac convertibles put some dummies in there like Thelma and Louise and just just launch them That is I mean so I mean I think it's kind of cool. I think they do in the middle of the day, right before 4th of July. And it's like a big event. Look at, see all the people down there, like they sell tons of tickets to this. Look at that. It's so it's massive. It's because everybody

who they clean it up or they leave like the debris. I imagine they have to clean it up, right? There's no way that someone would, it looks like a national park. There's no way they would allow you to do something like this and not do it. It's such an American idea. I love that shit. Did I tell you guys once, I had a friend that pushed this abandoned car down the foothills. I hope I'm not getting anyone in trouble.

This was back in the day, so what's the statute of limitations? You pushed a car? Not me. I had some friends that did it. It was like an abandoned car at the top of the foothills. Oh, dude, there was places we knew where people would just ditch their car like that

and then just drive it right off. Like up in Boulder Creek especially, there was this one dead end that it was a collection on a pile of cars, I swear. Everybody knew about it for some reason. This is where you ditch your car. Is it true, you might have told me this, Adam, is it true that Lake Tahoe has some of the highest rates

of boats sinking because people do that for insurance? Yeah. Wow. So they just drive it out? Well part of the reason why is because they never can recover it, right? Because it's so deep. So deep, so they, yeah, it's like a common

insurance scam that a lot of people, because, a lot of people, cause it's, it's actually like a common mistake that people do. I can't tell you how many times that we've been out on the boat and, oh, we forgot to put the plug back in. Cause every time you come out from a boat, like, so there gets like a little bit of water in the engine bay and like just part of the process of pulling a boat out and cleaning it up and doing yourself is you pull the plug. You pull the plug and then you allow, you allow the water that's around the engine to drain. And then after it all drains and you clean up your boat, you know, I put your plug back in and then, but it's happened, it's common that people forget to do that. And then of course, but now what ends up happening most of the time is you start to notice we're taking on a little

bit of water in the engine bay and you solve it and get out of there. But like, who's to say that you didn't notice it for long enough and then it sinks. And so it's like a really popular, you know, insurance scam in the, in the boat world, especially when you talk about how expensive boats are, how fast they lose their value and everything like that. Yeah. So a lot of, a lot of people, and there's even a whole business on people that actually go get those boats and then fix them back up because they literally are great, nice boats that

someone just pulled. They didn't get destroyed or broke. I mean, they got obviously water damage, but I mean, the rest of the boat is actually great. Is Lake Tahoe one of the deepest lakes? Yeah, pretty deep. Yeah, it's one of, it's one of, if not the... 1500, 1600 feet deep. Wow. I've seen like cool images of like where they compare it to like... How deep is like Crater Lake? Is that... That's actually a little bit deeper, I think. Oh, is it? Yeah, I think it's like maybe 1800. I'm not sure for exactly. I've seen an image before that compared like some of the deepest lakes and

Tahoe's up there. What do you laugh? So because I moved to Tahoe. You lived there? Yeah, I lived there. And so I had two roommates and we said, we're going to buy a boat. And so one weekend, my one roommate, myself, we were leaving out of town. So the other roommate said, I want to take the boat out.

So as we're driving out of the driveway, he comes running down the street wet. Oh, he goes, the boat sunk. That actually happened. He did. He sunk our boat. Uh, yeah. So he had forgotten to put the plug in. So he took it out.

He, we had a pier close to our house. Yeah. He drove it to our pier and he, you know, he docked it. And then he went out and all was sticking out was the bow of the boat. And so what do you do at that point? So you hire a company, they come, they pull the boat out, and then you have to obviously fix the engine because it's got water in it.

And so there's a process there. And basically if there's more damage, just like with a car, right, if there's more damage than what it's worth, then they'll total it, then they'll pay out for an insurance, but now you get why it's such a You know a common scam is because it happens It happens a lot to people or like relatively a lot in comparison to like other things And another thing is Tahoe when it gets windy it gets extremely rough. It's like the water. It's like the ocean

Yeah, so a lot of people have their boats on buoys, and what happens is, I mean, some of them sink. Wow. Oh, dude, speaking of water, okay, do you guys remember that movie, The Abyss? It was like 1990 or something like that, 89? Yeah. So in that movie, if you haven't watched it, did you watch that movie?

I don't think so. Your first underwater alien movie. Oh, it was sick. I mean, I remember the cover of it. It's like a picture of someone diving. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you go trippy constant. They're trying to get to the deepest parts of the ocean.

And one of the ways they did it was they had this new liquid that you could breathe in and it would provide, because one of the challenges with going deep is obviously the pressure on something that has air oxygen in it. So they developed this liquid that they would breathe in so they could breathe in this liquid and then go super deep. To kind of depressurize it.

Do you know that they invented that? Really? Okay, but it's not like that though. It's an injection. They actually invented an injection that will supply you with oxygen so you don't have to breathe. What?

Yes, yes, in 2017. Stop it. I swear. Now it's not having to be tested on. What is this, like embryonic fluid? Like what is this? They tested it on animals. So you they literally inject and I can't remember I don't I don't know how the science works but you they give this at the animal

injection and the animal can survive without breathing because they get enough oxygen well for obviously just a certain period of time well I mean I don't know I don't know what the details are but how crazy is that yeah where you could just get an injection of whatever and I read into the science I don't know what the details are, but how crazy is that? Yeah. Where you could just get an injection of, of whatever. And I read it into the science. I don't understand it, but something along the lines of that the, the oxygen is encapsulated in a way so it doesn't damage your tissues when you. Who's going to be the first to try that? Well, they got to test it on animals and stuff.

Yeah. Who knows this 2017, the military probably might already have something like this. Poor bastard. Yeah. Oh wait, what is this? 15 to 30 minutes. Yeah, medical, oh so that's why they use it, that's right. So when you have respiratory failure,

people whose lungs aren't working or collapsed or like bize time. They'll inject them with this and it'll give them 15 to 30 minutes. Why would that not be like, replace AED machines or something like that, or be lit with it? You would think that not be like a replace AED machines or something like that? Wouldn't there be lit with it? You would think that would be now something in the future that we would just have with like

an AED kit, like you bring that out and you inject them in addition to. Because I don't know if it's been a hundred percent. It says right there that the solution has already been successfully tested on animals under critical lung failure. So I don't know if they've done it, if it's

approved yet for humans. But I mean. Because then like transporting them and then putting them on, what is it like an iron lung at that point you would set them up on? Oh no, I don't think so. Yeah, I don't know.

I don't know, but he's right because if you get heart failure or cardiac arrest, you're not getting oxygen. Boom, inject somebody. You would think that if this gets approved or whatever it needs to get through as far as the process of like everybody adopting it, that would become like the next thing that would be right next

to the AED machine. Something as simple as that. I could. Extending 15 to 30 minutes. Most, you know, like most ambulances are there by that or fire teams or whatever that are normally there by that time, right? Yep, yep.

So that's interesting. Yeah. I wonder how the military, I mean, I'm sure they would use it for like sneak attack or whatever. Oh yeah. Like the seals would use it. Yeah. Just underwater, just like a, you know, like a shark. Yeah. Not having to trip on it. We're already doing crazy shit like that.

Yeah. Cool stuff. You know, also reminds me of another study. Did you know that, so they've identified that dogs will change their behavior based off of who they're around and what they smell in the sense that they can smell fear and apprehension literally, they'll pick up on it. Oh yeah. And then they, their behavior will be more pessimistic based off of their, cause dogs

evolved, so this is, this is what tripped me out of it, dogs evolved to be so interconnected with humans that they read our cues, so if they smell fear in you, they themselves become more pessimistic with their behaviors and actions because they smell the fear. I mean, isn't that, I mean, part of the reason why there's so many dog bites and attacks is because people that already are afraid and fearful of the dog. Yeah, it's their energy. bites and attacks is because people that already are afraid and fear for the dog. And then the dog barks or what that, and then they, they elevates or heightens their, their sense, their feeling and fear.

And then that just heightens the dog even further. And then you end up getting attacked versus being calm and relaxed, right? Totally. Yeah. Cause they can also, I know this that the dogs can smell or sense a seizure before it occurs. Yeah. So they have, um, companion dogs that they'll give to epileptics.

They will know how to turn the person over and make sure they don't choke. Are there specific pheromones or things that they pick up on for fear that you're excreting? Yeah. It has to be that. It has to be that, right? Because I always thought it was more of like a mannerism.

They can pick up on your movement and your and like your, um, focus on them and it's gotta be pheromone type stuff. It's smell, it's smell. Yeah. They identified a smell. That's so, that's so fascinating. Yeah. You talk about animal stuff. I forgot. This was like something I was going to bring up. I actually should probably get a fact check. So, but I saw the video and it looked very real to me. Have you seen the elephant that paints? Yeah. Have you seen it?

I have seen it. Is it real? Is that real? It was real Yeah, what yeah, it's how you guys see this. So like legit good painting Yeah, yeah will paint himself. Yes. What yes in trees and yes Yes, you saw the same thing. I saw that. Yeah, so in there yeah, and I looked into that and and it's interesting because The I don't know what you call a group of elephants, like a pack or a herd or something. Yeah, so they punked them because of it.

Because it was getting attention and so they all like, and it was a smaller, it was like a young elephant. Yeah, you totally, okay, you read the same thing I did. They punked them like hard and so they had to isolate them. Oh really, because they were jealous? At the zoo, yeah, they're jealous. Wow. And they had to isolate him

so he could get back to his painting. This is crazy, dude. I saw this. I'm like, there's no way he painted that. And it's really. So like pictures, you know what they are? Oh, dude, yeah. He paints himself.

And he paints like scenery pictures that are, I mean. It's cooler in a lot of those Jackson Pollock. I mean, it's not Bob Ross, but I mean, it's like solid. I mean, it's solid. There's not a lot of people that can pull off of Bob Ross. It's actually probably better than what I would paint. You know what I'm saying? So it's not Bob Ross, but I mean, it's like solid. I mean, it's solid. I mean, there's not a lot of people that can pull off a Bob Ross. It's actually probably better than what I would paint. You know what I'm saying?

So it's not bad. Yeah, hopefully. Here's a fluffy little cloud. Yeah. Yeah. Happy trees. Did you guys watch Bob Ross when you were kids? Oh, of course.

Oh, yeah. Did you really? Yeah. Oh, it annoyed me. Happy trees. Oh, really? I hated it. Because it usually came on when cartoons were over or something.

I remember it signaled like shows were done. It was soothing. Yeah. Yeah, wait till you see this, dude. Dude, this is wild. All the hippies became like the kid show front men. Yeah. Yes.

It was interesting. Do you guys, OK, were you guys big Saturday morning cartoon? Yeah, of course. Do you guys remember what show would come on that would signify that it was over? Yeah. Soul Train. Yes! Oh, I hated that.

Every time. Woo! Oh, it's over. Yeah. In Saturday. Soul Train. Yes! Oh, I hated that. Every time, whoo! Oh, it's over. No more snorks. Yeah, I hated that. It sucks. Stupid Soul Train. I can't believe you remember that.

I don't remember that. I don't remember what. Stupid train would come on and be like, oh, it's over, guys. Yeah, bunch of weird people trying to boogie. Yeah, Saturday morning was cereal and cartoons for me. Every single day. We only got from like what?

I'd say like 8 a.m. to about 11, right? It wasn't like all, it was like only till like. Oh bro, you could get up earlier and there was some cartoons. I started going as early as like 6 or 7 a.m. Oh really? Yeah, yeah. Wow, what was going on at that time? Voltron.

Yes. Usually. Yes, god bro, you and I would have been. I feel like I caught Voltron. The only thing I pay attention to. I know Doug picked the slowest video on Earth, but look at this thing is starting to. It takes him a while. Can you tell it's the slowest video on Earth, but look at this thing. It's starting to take a while.

It's already coming together. But look at those lines. You know what? He sucks. He's already has the... Did you know elephants goose each other? Goose each other? Yeah, you know what I mean.

Like what do you mean? Like stick their trunk up with another... Their horn. They'll go up behind each other and like... Look at this. Tell me how good that is. He actually made it. Tell me you can paint that better than that.

You know what? They use the scratch your belly. Yeah. I've seen a video. Is that true? It's horrifying. They don't actually use it though. Yeah, bro. Are you not like blown away by the detail this guy's putting together here? Yeah, I am. Well, you know why you sold, you told me so much about it before I saw it. Now I knew. Oh, I should have undersold it. This elephant kind of draws, yeah, this elephant kind of draws. You probably wouldn't be paying attention. It's got a press. It's a male. I'm serious.

That is unbelievable to me that he can, he's been trained to draw that accurate of a picture. What's weird is that that signifies a type of a self aware consciousness. Exactly. I mean, am I the only one that's like so blown away by that? That's crazy. Elephants mourn they're dead like so blown away by that? Yeah. That's crazy. Elephants mourn, they're dead also.

Yep. Do you know that? So someone dies, you bury it, whatever, they'll revisit the bones. I mean, after seeing this, I'm not surprised at all. I mean, look, that's crazy to me. Yeah. That an animal would be self-aware enough to draw a picture of himself. Yeah.

And then, and originally when I think I first saw the article, I'm like, okay, well, it's gonna be like blotches. And they're like, oh yeah, look at the elephant. It's like, cool. You know what I'm saying? But I mean, I do not think I could draw a better elephant. It's legible. I'm almost positive I couldn't draw a better one. No, you are pretty bad at drawing. Would you, would you want an elephant for a pet? That would be cool. An elephant? Yeah. I'd have to have a really big house. You gotta clean your shit. You would leave it, and you keep it in the house? Well, I mean, you'd have to have a big piece of property. Yeah.

I definitely wouldn't want a little tiny trailer and then with an elephant living nearby. I feel like nobody would ever mess with your property if you had an elephant. Do you think they're intimidating? Elephants? No, I'm not denying how strong they are, but I'm like, I don't think they're that intimidating.

Well, bro, you should read about the battles of like, who is it, the barbarians? I mean, I don't I don't think they're that intimidating like bro. You should read about the battles of like Was it who's at the Barbarian? I mean, I know they rode them. I know they're powerful I know all those things about people they don't strike me as like you roll up on a house to rob and you're like Oh shit, he's got an elephant I'm pretty sure that I like to pit bulls Roll up like two pit bulls. You're in San Jose. You roll up, there's an elephant. For sure you're getting the hell out of there. No way. If I roll up in San Jose, it's like I got a Bengal Tiger back there somewhere or something.

Why is there an elephant? Okay, that might be a good point. Okay, so if I see an elephant, look at how crazy that is. Yeah, that is wild. That is like really good. That is pretty wild. Really good. So if I roll up and I see it, I'm gonna rob a house and I see an elephant,

I'm not like, oh, there's an elephant. I'm more like, he might have a tiger. Like I might, like that's- I feel like you'd be so confused you would not go into the house. Okay, fair, but my point was that it's not intimidating. Like you may sound like, oh, that'd be sick, like intimidate people with an elephant.

Well, you ever watch those videos of like elephants? We make spike color. Elephants gone wild or anything like that? Have you seen those? No, it's like girls gone wild. Elephants gone wild. What are you watching, dog? What are you watching? I'm into some weird stuff.

Yeah, bro. Wow. Google elephants gone wild. Yeah, yeah. Put it on there. Take off safe search. Look at the images. No, uh.

We're already flagged for our goat search. Hey, can you just fast forward to the very end of this since we already, I wanna see like the puzzle. Why, is there more? Well, no, it's more detailed. I mean, it's like, it looks, I don't know if this is the one that has the, like all the scenery and stuff like that,

but like, since we clicked on the like whole video here. Yeah, that's sick. They make reels that are like- This is like real time video here. I see that. Wow, he's like a second grader, you know? Like it's better than some of my kids' drawings. Way better than a second grader.

That's how you should- Is that how you, that's how you- I don't think any of you could draw a better picture than that That's how you can shame your kids in a school. Yeah, look he's doing balloons. No those that's a flower Something like that. Nice job. Mr. Elf. I mean that's just maybe you've never seen videos of That were there like part of a circus and then they oh I have seen that you ain't stopping Yeah, stop him one. They push a... Oh, I have seen that. You ain't stopping an elephant, bro. You ain't stopping one. They push a car over like a 10.

Okay, I'm not arguing the point that they're unbelievably strong, but they just don't... If I had to make a list of the 10 most intimidating, in fact, if anybody made a list, the 10 most intimidating animals, pretty sure elephant doesn't make the top 10. Elephant, hippo.

Those are the biggest... Hippos. I'm telling you are the scariest. Hippos. I'm telling you guys, yeah. Hippos are aggressive. Definitely. A moose would even pass that. Like a moose is scary too. I just don't think elephants don't come across as, you know.

Why, because they paint and they look cute? Yeah, they really don't. Because of Dumbo. Dumbo makes everybody feel comfortable now. Well, I'm gonna take a turn here. I wanna ask you about something I heard you talking about earlier, Adam. So earlier today we were doing some advertising stuff and you were talking

to some of our partners and one of the questions they asked you, I thought it was a really good question, was the commonalities between leadership or what does leadership and coaching or training people have in common? I thought that was a really good question. First off, did you tell them to ask you that question or was that on there? No, I didn't tell them. Did you tell them to ask you the question they asked you? Yeah. Oh, you did?

Here's where I'm best. You wouldn't do that. Ask me these questions. I'm really good at answering these. Yeah, you'll like what I have to say. No, so what were some of the things that you... Because when I heard the question, I'm like, oh yeah, there's a law in common with leading a team, leading a family, and training a client, working with a client. It's very similar in that sense. I mean, we kind of talked about it,

I felt like the other day, I don't know what conversation we were having, but you had brought something up, and I had pointed out that that reminds me of one of my favorite leadership quotes, which is, first rule of being a leader is everything is your fault. And when, ultimately, when you are, that's now that's obvious, right?

When you talk about a team and you're leading a team or a SEAL team, any sort of a team, like, okay, everyone understands the leadership role there. I don't think a lot of times people think of that it's really the same thing when you're coaching a client. The only difference is it's a two man, two man or man and woman team. That's it, it's just you and I in this team. And obviously if you hired me as a coach and trainer, I'm the leader and woman team. That's it. It's just you and I as the, in this team. And obviously, if you hired me as a coach and trainer, I'm the leader of this team. And therefore, if anything goes wrong, you don't show up to appointments, you don't follow the diet,

you don't perform the exercises correctly, you don't adhere to the advice, it's my fault. It's my fault. If you weren't ineffective. Yeah, exactly. If you, and unfortunately, a lot of people are thrusted into leadership roles and they don't have a leadership mentality. They have that like, I got promoted, so I'm a manager and so you're supposed to just do what I say,

but a true leader is somebody who can not only lead by example, but then also takes the responsibility of all the losses. You know, when a good leader is not somebody that demands to be heard or followed, a good leader is somebody that people want to follow. They simply want to. Yeah, and I think when you're an effective coach,

in fact, this is for people listening right now, if you're looking for a good trainer, one of the attributes, there's a lot of things you want to look for, so it's not just this, but this is one of them, is does this person, do you want to follow their lead? Do you want to take their advice? Do you want, do you feel like this is somebody that you could trust on this journey because

you are going to be making, potentially making big fundamental changes in how you live, everything from diet to sleep, to even more importantly, how you view yourself in relationship to things like fitness and nutrition. And so if you feel like you're just being barked at or told what to do, if it feels that way, probably not a good trainer for you, but if this trainer makes you feel like, man, I wanna follow this individual,

which requires what, trust, humility, vulnerability. Those are the most important things. Yeah, I mean, and listen, this is really powerful for the people that are listening that think that they are the leader in their home too. I mean, this is a practice that is difficult for a lot of people to do with their spouse, for example. If you truly believe that you're the leader of your family and you and your spouse are arguing or disagreeing about something like that, like if you're truly a good leader, you take full responsibility always. So, and, and it can use, can you like in the heat of a moment, in an argument with your spouse, uh, take that responsibility of saying like, you know what?

I failed you. I failed you. I didn't communicate well enough. I didn't do this well enough. I understand why you're mad or I understand, even when you like on the outside, from the outside looking in, it looks like the other person's fault for sure that they did X, Y, and Z. But if you really consider yourself the leader of that family, leader of that team, then just like it would be for

a coach who's taking responsibility of a loss, just like a coach or a trainer would take the responsibility of a client, not getting their goals. The same thing works in your household is that, Hey, like I failed us. I failed us as a dad. Like I didn't, I didn't obviously explain why this was so hard for me to get into. trainer would take the responsibility of a client not getting their goals. The same thing works in your household is that, Hey, like I failed us. I failed us as a dad.

Like I didn't, I didn't obviously explain why this was so important, why we should have done this way. I didn't communicate well enough. I didn't spend enough time. I didn't show you whatever it may be. But I mean, it's such a good exercise that if you believe that about yourself and your family that, Hey, the next time you have some adversity or a challenge or an argument or a fight with your spouse, try leading the conversation with that it's tough to do and in those moments.

And so can you take responsibility for all failures? You know, I had some really good mentors coming up in the fitness industry. And I remember there's some examples that pop up of, uh, where you saw that leadership come through. Like I remember my first mentor, Don, I remember at the time, so this was the late 90s at the time, the club we worked, 24 Fitness where we started, and at the time we had porters that cleaned the club, we had trainers, we had salespeople.

But I remember they made this big push for everybody to make sure that they took responsibility for the cleanliness of the club because they had realized that this was a big, this is a big reason why people don't, that cancel their memberships is if a gym doesn't seem orderly or clean. And instead of hiring a million more porters, which would have been just not very good, it's like have everybody take ownership.

Well, you try telling personal trainers who just think they're trainers or salespeople who just think they're sales, hey, I want you to pick up a rag and clean the equipment. Or everybody's like, oh, I'm not going to do that. Whatever. So I'll never forget Don, one of his first days as my general manager, I had another GM before that only for a few months, then he pops in. And I never forget, he pulled up his sleeves, he grabbed some rags, grabbed some cleaning

supplies and he was just cleaning equipment and didn't say anything to anybody. And then he came out and said, hey, come give me a hand. And it was very natural for you to follow his lead. Oh, yeah. Because he was out there. You'd feel guilty if you didn't after that. You just, you see your boss doing it, and not doing it, like legitimately doing it,

and then inviting you, and it was very, very powerful. I mean, again, to the people that are leading a team, like let's say in business, again, to the people that are leading a team, like let's say in business, like try this the next time. We tend to do this with a staff member, someone that, like let's say somebody on a team failed to do an edit correctly or spelled something right. Instead of saying, you did this wrong, or you messed up here,

or look at this mistake, I failed to communicate to you how important it was to me for this. Lead with that and watch how powerful and how much they, how much better they receive the, the, the criticism versus you going in there and telling them you fucked up, you did this wrong, whatever, and pointing those things out versus you taking ownership of their failure. You do that and watch how powerful it is even for an employee, the way they will receive that information and correct those behaviors.

powerful it is even for an employee, the way they will receive that information and correct those behaviors. And so I don't know that skill, probably something that I learned the hard way being raised in my household, then being thrusted into leadership. Obviously being 40 something years old, I'm able to unpack it now and reflect on all these things in these situations. You know, one of the most memorable conversations I've had, and it kind of is similar to this conversation, Dean Papas, who I think you would agree was probably one of the best. Oh, he was one of my favorite mentors. Right.

And you know, of all the conversations that I've had with him and interactions, you know what the one that I can like vividly remember that stands out the most to me was I was, it was in the second year that I won the Hawaii competition, right? So every year, if you were top performer, you go to Hawaii and you know, I would meet, uh, VPs and stuff like that. Company's massive, right? So you meet all these big wigs when you're at events like this.

And so many times, uh, I would meet one and you know, they would, Oh, Hey man, great. They, They hype me up when they see me and you could just see right through like, he don't know who the hell I am. He doesn't know who I am. I bet you guys in what club I'm running, he has no idea what club I'm running. It was totally fake. You could just feel that. And I'll never forget the first time that I had my encounter with Dean Pappas like this and he was, I was at the bar and he sent a drink over to me and then it came over to me and then he walked over to me and he opened the conversation with apologizing for not remembering who I was.

He's like, you know, I know I remember that forever. And I thought later in life, like, why was that such an it like he didn't teach me anything amazing. He didn't hype me up and tell me how awesome I was. Like, why was that so impactful? And it's like, oh, okay, you know why? Because the humility, right? He humbled himself to admit his fault or his wrong as a leader.

Like, hey, I know I should know you because I've seen you before, but I don't remember what your name is. Can you remind me? You also showed value in you and showed that he cared, right? By doing that, pulled you in. My other favorite quote, right? Nobody cares how much you know until they know cared by doing that. Yeah, pulled you in. My other favorite quote, right? Nobody cares how much you know until they know how

much you care. And so coming from that was like, wow, what a powerful thing. And I just think that unfortunately, and we see this in leaders in our country and leadership in big companies and people that are in these positions, like that's rule number one. Rule number one is everything is your fault.

And if you're going gonna be a really effective, good trainer and coach, you have to learn to do this. It's always assigned to me when I have a weak trainer, when the client didn't resign or they didn't get the results and I'm inquiring like, hey, what happened? What's going on? And all they do is list all this stuff about them. Oh, they never showed up to their appointments

and oh, they never did this. Oh, they don't have money. Oh, they never showed up to their appointments, and oh, they never did this. Oh, they don't have money. Oh, they don't like, they give me all this list of excuses versus being like, you know what? I couldn't, you know what I didn't do? I didn't do this, or I could have done this better. Couldn't figure it out. Couldn't figure out how to do.

Yeah, just own it, right? Like, you know, man, I don't know. I'm trying to figure out where I went wrong or what I could have done better. Like just that attitude like tells me so much about the trainer working for me. I had this, uh, and you figure this out as a coach through years and years and years of really how to get good at getting people to that point. Because if you don't get them to that point, you know, if this is now, this is

for trainers listening, if you can't get a client to the point where they trust you, uh, where they want to follow your lead, you're not going to be, you're not going to be able to succeed with this. It's very, very difficult. And so through the years, you just kind of start to figure out what works and what helps with this and whatever and how to read certain things. And I remember I had this client, this woman that would show up at my studio and she was intimidated, intimidated by working out, intimidated by the other people in the gym.

And I've been around that before and I knew what that was like. And so I started scheduling her at times when people weren't there. Then I started turning the lights down in the gym and I've been around that before. And I knew what that was like. And so I started scheduling her at times when people weren't there. Then I started turning the lights down in the studio. Then I sectioned off one part of the gym, which was in the front, in the corner. Just her and I would just work with one pair of dumbbells. And I remember later on, this is after years of working with her and she became, you know, really well versed and this became something that she did on her own. Even I remember her telling me like,, you know how big of a,

what a big deal it was that you scheduled me when no one else was there and you turned the lights off in the studio when I would come in to work out because you knew it would make me feel whatever. It's like those types of things right there. And it wasn't me saying you gotta just show up, like who cares, come in, don't worry about it, whatever. It was like I had to meet her where she was

and she knew how much I cared and you're right and then she was willing to take those extra steps. I don't know why we don't, why this is not more part of our curriculum because give me, I don't care what you do for a profession, it doesn't matter, those skill sets, they transfer, they carry over to every, so many aspects of your life.

Whether you're- Especially relationships. Exactly, exactly. Because of relationships, that matters so much and everything you'll ever do in life requires that. I don't care if you have a solo job- So interactions with people require that communication.

Yeah, and hopefully at one point you're married and have children and things like that, like that, and that requires the ability to lead a household. And probably one of the hardest things when you have a marriage is like understanding that, okay, if I'm gonna lead this family, part of that is through humility and accepting and taking the failures when you fail

and celebrating the other person when the success. Otherwise it builds up content. It builds up all this resentment and if you just, again, it's the whole clean your own room kind of mentality. It's like, if you just look at it yourself, it's like, okay, what's my role in this? What's my responsibility? Where's this going wrong that I can look at and be able to address just personally, it's going to be so much more effective because then again too, you're leading that. The other person sees that that's your go-to. They're going to follow along and then that's just going to become a healthier relationship as a result of you modeling it. This was one of the most attractive qualities of Katrina when we first

got together. Like any relationship, it's inevitable at one point you're going to disagree or argue about something. I remember the way we handled the very first time and everyone since then where it's like, obviously there's tension, we don't agree, we're arguing about something like, okay, we recognize we're not getting anywhere, take a breather from talking to each other right now, and then we'll reconvene. Normally it's shortly after, not very long, we never we're not getting anywhere. Take a breather from talking to each other right now and then we'll reconvene. And normally it's, you know, shortly after, not very long, we never let a night go by or anything like that.

And then when we would reconvene, I remember the way she would always start the conversation. It was always, and there's times where I know like, man, I fucked up. That was something I probably shouldn't have done or I was out of line there or whatever. And yet she would lead with, you know, this is where I failed you as a partner or this, I wish I did, I'm sorry, and apologizing for what she did wrong, even in the face of us knowing

it was my bad. And the same thing was true vice versa. Like, so when we would go break apart, I would be thinking of like, oh man, what did I not do? How did we get here that I allowed this to escalate to this point? What could I have done better and how did I fail her? And then when we get back, that's what I'm talking about. It was like, man, when I felt that from a spouse,

a partner like that, I knew like this is the woman I'm gonna be with the rest of my life. Just simply how she approaches problems in our life and so, so important. That's awesome. All right, I'm gonna take a right here. Okay, you know the peptide GHK-CU? Yes. We talked about this many times. Yes. You used it for a while for psoriasis. I still use it daily. In healings. So you can inject it or you can

apply it on your skin and you know when you inject it it can hurt? Yeah. It's one of the more painful peptides to inject. Yes. Okay when you when you inject it. You know why? No. Why is that? Okay so it is a signaling peptide that your body produces after injury. So when you get an injury, when you get inflammation, when you get some kind of tissue damage, your body releases GHKCU, which tells the body heal. So when you inject it, it's like a pain response. That's why. Let's address this.

Yes. Yes. response. Oh my god. Problem area, let's address this. Yes, yes. So cancerous activity, inflammation, damage releases GHKCU. GHKCU then signals the body to heal. So this is why it's such a great peptide to use on your skin. Apply it to your skin. You don't actually have damage, but your body gets the idea that, oh, I need to heal the skin. And then you get smoother skin. You get skin that looks healthy, like as if it's been healing from something, as it's as if it's adapting from stress. So long story short, we have that, the, the Nterra skincare products.

It's in the blue bottle. That's the one with GHKC. So that's why the cream is blue or whatever. My daughter throughout the summer, she's been going out to tan and she's like, really, she's 14 year old girl. So hair needs to look good. cream is blue or whatever. My daughter, throughout the summer, she's been going out to tan, and she's like really, she's a 14 year old girl, so hair needs to look good, skin needs to look whatever. So she goes outside, gets a little bit of sunburn on her face, so this is like a tragedy.

She comes in, little red. Oh my god. Oh, it's a big deal. Oh my god, if I start peeling, what am I gonna do? I'm like, and I'm trying not to like, trying not to disregard her feelings or whatever, because it's very easy for me to be like, you're fine. But I'm like, okay, let's see.

So I'm like, hey, I got this cream. Let's use it on your face. Cause have you, oh, you guys haven't seen this, the data on GHKCU and sunburn. Oh, it's wild. It's wild. Like you'll put it on and the next day, the next day your sunburn is almost gone or gone.

So her little cheeks, her cheeks and her nose were red. So I got the Antera, put them on. I did this for my niece. I'll have to stock up on that. So yes, dude. So I did this for my niece too. So my niece, when she was visiting, she now she's very light complected and she got kind of sunburned. And so she put it on and again, the next day it was gone. So we put it on her face. Sure enough, the next day, the next day dramatic improvement in her skin. That's wild.

It's now become the, so when I get out of the shower, I use that. When I get here to the studio, I use my Caldair. So that's how I do it. And, because I don't remember if it was you or who I was talking to. Two different things. Yeah, so because one of them's got a peptide,

one of them's like a tissue. No, no, yeah, and tereskin care is literally a peptide that's telling your skin, regenerate. Telling your skin, reduce inflammation. Healing agents in there, yeah. Yeah, other products. So they actually complement each other. They're not working against each other. Oh yeah, telling your skin reduce inflammation. Healing agents in there, yeah. Yeah, other products. So they actually complement each other. They're not working against each other.

Oh yeah, oh, use them together. Yeah. And watch what happens. Yeah. I mean, that's like the- That's what I've told, so people have asked me, obviously I've talked a lot about Caldera and then we've talked about Intera now,

and they're like, oh, which one should I do? It's like, well, I use both. So I think they complement each other. But yeah, so if you have any inflamed areas, any, you know, areas that look- That's all psoriasis. That's what they do. That looks like there's damage or put on healthy skin and watch what happens. And it works so fast that you could tell within a day or two of using it.

So- Well, this is kind of a sidebar to that, but my brother-in-law and their family, they all use like astaxanthin. Have you heard about that? Like instead of using any kind of sunblock anymore, like they kind of, I guess they, you have to like introduce it a couple of weeks ahead of time before you go get like a lot of sun exposure. But like, I mean, they've been able to get the darker skin and be able to, you know, really be more resilient in

the sun and they're light skinned, complete. Yeah me. Yeah. So I haven't tried it yet. I've just heard about it. It's improving your, your skin's ability to withstand the damage of you, of the UV rays. And that also includes a diet that's high in essential fatty acids can help with that. Some people will comment when they're on a keto diet, cause it's so high in fats that

they're like, my skin just darkens real nice. I don't get a sunburn or whatever. It's all about avoiding damage, not the tan. The tan is fine. It's like, it's like high in fats that they're like, my skin just darkens real nice. I don't get a sunburn or whatever. It's all about avoiding damage. Not the tan. The tan is fine. It's like building muscle with exercise versus over training. Sunburn is damage.

So you want to avoid sunburn. So you want to boost all your body's ability to handle any damage. So using GHKU before you go out in the sun would even be a good idea. Really? Yes. It would even be a good idea.

But sunscreen is like, you know, you're gonna need that if you're just gonna be exposed to more than you're exposed to. Yeah, it's kind of a necessary evil. It's one of those things. I'd love to find a brand that wasn't like so heavily, had a lot of these chemical compounds in it, but I have to do what I gotta do.

I've talked to you about this before. You know you'll get a sunburn faster if you wear sunglasses? I heard that. I've talked to you about this before. You know you'll get a sunburn faster if you wear sunglasses? I heard that. I heard that. What? Oh, because your eyes perceive it? And it signals to the body how bad it is or not?

Yeah, your brain will produce, will be less than that. Seems so obvious, but you wouldn't think about that. Yeah, so you wear sunglasses. But then my eye doctor's like, you're gonna get UV damage in your eyes, though, if you're not wearing sunglasses. I mean, I guess. So I was like, cool.

I think it's where space suits you. It's where you're conflicting information. Yeah, dude. So anyway. So shout out. What do we got? What do I got for you? Did I shout out on the show?

I know I think I might have talked about it briefly, but it's now like, I want to say episode five or six on Presumed Innocent. Have you guys watched that yet? No. I've been meaning to watch that. It's probably one of the best shows on TV right now. Yeah, I would put it up there. What do you think, Doug?

I know you're watching. Yeah, I really like it. I mean, there was a moment there that I felt like they were really broadcasting, you know, things that, trying to, you know, set the narrative for you to think about what might happen. I felt like it was a little bit clunky at points, but overall I love the show.

Yeah, I think I- What's it about, this, who, what's his name? Jake. Jake Gyllenhaal. Gyllenhaal. Yes. So he's a, he's a lawyer and without like spoiler about that, he's basically, is that going to spoil it if I say why he's like, he's going through the case? No.

Right. Does that help? Well, yeah, I don't know. I mean, yeah. So is it about trial? Yeah. Yeah. It's a whole, it's like, oh, it's a case, right? Does that help? Well, yeah, I don't know. I mean, yeah. So is it about trial? Yeah, yeah. It's a case, right? And it's definitely got all kinds of twists and turns.

And they try and pin this murder potentially on him. And what Doug is talking about, which we talked about this off air a little bit, I was like, I actually like that because they are constantly throwing, like sending you in and make you want to believe it's this person. They make you want to believe it's that person. And I love, I love these shows that I can't figure out. Misdirection. I don't care how good acting, how good a show is. If I feel like I can figure it out by episode one or two, like, oh, I know it's happening. They're going to do this. They're going to say this. And

then this is going to happen. Like, I don't care how good it is. That kind of ruins it for me. I love something where like I'll watch one episode and then I feel going to say this and then this is going to happen. Like, I don't care how good it is, that kind of ruins it for me. I love something where I like I'll watch one episode and then I feel convicted that, oh, it's this person. And then the next I was like, oh, it's definitely this person. And because they can be a little over top about that is what Doug's pointing out. It's like sometimes it's like, OK, they're being obvious. They want you to believe it's this person. But I also enjoy that because it's I don't.

Here I am five, six episodes deep and I don't know. I haven't solved what's going on. So, and the acting is good. The storyline is interesting and unique. Like, so it's good. It's Apple TV, I think. Right? Yeah.

Yeah. It's one of the better ones on the show. Probably since, uh, what was that one that I thought of one of the first ones that Netflix did really good that, uh, Guy Ritchie did, that was like the last one. Yes. The jump. Like I really liked that one. That was great.

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typically the more resistant it is to losing more body fat. Remember, body fat on your body is a form of- It's an insurance. Insurance. In case of emergency, we have this stored energy and your body really doesn't like to get too lean. If you're one of those people that's like, I want to get rid of those last five pounds and you're a female and you're 15 or 16% body fat or

you're a guy and you're 8 or 9% body fat, it's like, well, this is when your body really fights really hard and you have to be far more perfect with your approach to get the extra whatever amount body fat you want to get off. The other part of this is as you lose weight, as you lose body fat, which happens through a calorie deficit, meaning you burn more calories than you take in or you're taking less calories than you burn, your body always tries to adapt to match the new energy intake.

If I'm burning 2,500 calories worth of energy, but I'm only taking in 2,000, my body's only going to allow that to happen for so long. It's going to try to adapt to meet the new caloric intake because it doesn't want to be, it's like, it would be like you managing your bank account. You're making $500 a week, you're spending $600 a week. What you're going to do is you're going to figure out how to spend less money. Otherwise, you'll run out of money and be in a bad situation. So your body does as well.

All right, so the question is what to do? Do I eat even less calories? I mean, technically, but if your calories are already really low, that's not a good long-term approach. A better approach would be to maybe stop trying to lose body fat, go into a period where you're trying to build muscle, get the metabolism to move in the other direction where you burn more calories, and then revisit the fat loss

because now you're starting with a higher, faster metabolism. More cardio typically isn't the answer for most people. It can be, but burning calories just through movement, your body adapts to that very quickly. Speeding up the metabolism is typically the best approach. Yeah, this is hard to answer this precisely without, because technically those could be the answers, right?

Just eat a little less. I mean, if you were a client of mine and you were eating 2,800 calories and we have lost weight at 2,800 calories and you now hit a plateau and we got five more to go, okay, we'll eat 2,300 now. You're at a very healthy, sustainable, uh, calorie intake to do that. In my experience, the most common reason for this is we've ran out of runway.

And this is why I don't care how much weight you have to lose or how long you've been doing this for almost everybody that has a weight loss goal, uh, or wants to lose body fat. Um, I almost always start on a reverse diet first. So we have more of that runway. So that this person is like at this point where we hit this plateau, they are only doing say cardio once or twice a week,

and they're still eating 2,500, 2,800 calories because it is a simple fix. Yeah, let's just drop the calories a little bit more, or hey, let's pick up one or two more days of physical activity or cardio, and we should break right through that plateau. The reason why this becomes a challenging question or a common question is because people decided

they're not in good shape, they're unhealthy, or there's something going on, they decide they're gonna start their weight loss journey, and they just start from there. They go, hey, I'm gonna clean up the diet, I'm gonna start exercising, and they kind of throw everything at it right out the gates. And eventually that, I mean, originally that does work and you start to see the dropping, dropping. And then you do

that same formula again, oh, cut calories, increase activity, cut calories, increase activity. And then what ends up happening is like, oh, I still got like five or 10 more to go, but I'm eating 1500 calories. I'm training seven days a week. I'm already doing cardio every day. It's like, so, uh, Adam, do I do more cardio? It's like, no, that's a terrible strategy at that point because it's not sustainable long-term. So in that point I would do what Sal's saying, which is I would reverse out

and say, Hey, let's boost calories. Let's go on a bulk. Let's go on building muscle for a while to speed the metabolism up so that we can gain some runway. But that's typically what it is. But the truth is, without knowing all those details or asking those questions, it's hard to say it isn't as simple as just cut a few more calories.

We're kind of assuming a lot. And there's not a lot of context to this that we obviously would need if they called in. We'd try and dig a lot more about what amount of calories they're currently on, what their training looks like. Because two, five more pounds, is this just a fixed number that they came in with that they're just trying to get to a destination of pounds? Well, maybe their composition looks great, but they're carrying, you know,

more weight on the scale than they'd like. So anyways, there's a lot to kind of extract from this and, you know, assess, but yeah, definitely the approach we always talk about is like trying your best to gain muscle and make sure you're in a really healthy place calorically in order to make it more sustainable at the end. Next question is from Fulvio Castle.

Should I program scheduled deloads or just go by necessity? No. There's two kinds of people. Well, there's two kinds of people when it comes to deloads, the first kind are inconsistent with their workouts, in which case your inconsistency is giving you the natural deloads, right? You miss a week here or there. Well, there you go.

Then there's the fanatics that don't miss a workout for years that tend to do more than they need. Those people benefit from a scheduled deload. I'm one of those people. If I don't have a scheduled deload, I'll keep going until my body's yelling at me and saying, you need to take some time off. In which case I'll finally listen, but I could have listened weeks ago and avoided this, this situation that I'm in.

So it really depends on, on who you are. If you're super fanatical, like schedule them. It makes a big difference. Deloads really accelerate results for those types of people. But if you miss workouts on your own, like don't schedule more time off. You already got that. I mean, I jumped to no right away because it's rare you meet somebody like you. Even somebody who considers himself a gym rat or, you know, a bit of a

fanatic and stuff like that, few people can say like, Oh, I haven't missed a training week in five years or like there's small very very small percentage of people where that is the case and so I don't think it's necessary to schedule a deload week or a week off for most people but yes there is the rare case of somebody like yourself who if I was training you would say hey Sal this might be a good week. You got to be borderline obsessed. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I just feel like for most people, a vacation comes. Like very few people don't travel for a week in the year. Very few people don't get sick for a week or two of the year. And so life kind of has these natural breaks that happen.

And I think following it organically makes the most sense just for consistency reasons. Like if I have a client who's got great momentum and they're being consistent, and maybe they would even benefit a little bit from a off week or a deload week, but I also know that, man, getting them consistent was such a huge challenge. It might be risky for me to give them, even though I know they might benefit from that week off, I might go, oh, man, but this person is, man, they've struggled their whole life with consistency. And this is the first time they've put four months in a row of not missing a day of training.

I don't know if I want to do that. That's a total different conversation. When I have a Sal that I'm coaching, which was rare where I'm like, Oh, you know what, like we need to take a week off. Like you are, you never miss. You're always on. Like that's, you know, the other thing too is, you can, there are specific types of strength training

programs that schedule deloads because it's a part of the programming. For example, Maps Antibulk Advanced, there's deload weeks scheduled in. Many powerlifting style programs will schedule deloads in. That's another approach. Another approach is to schedule the deload as part of the programming because the programming typically like

Maps Anabolic Advance does it. It takes you to the edge and then it gives the deload week and it takes you to the edge and it's part of the programming to have the deload weeks. Not necessarily because you need a break because you're tired or whatever but rather it was programmed with the D-load week in mind and so it all makes sense together. So you often see this when it is scheduled, it is part of the person's actual program that they've created.

And you see this more commonly in strength sport programming. You don't necessarily see this in bodybuilding style, but like power lifting and weight lifting, you'll see this. That's a really good point that I think we highlight that. This does, this also like anything else depends on the person I'm talking to. And if I have a performance sports specific type of a goal, jumping higher, running faster, lifting more weight specifically, like for competition, this becomes a total different answer for me, like, right, as far as deloading, because that becomes necessary for somebody who

could easily tip into overtraining and hinder their performance. Or make them peak, right? You'll deload. Right, right. Most people are trying to be in shape, trying to be healthy, trying to look a certain way. And consistency period tends to trump a little bit of over training or a little bit of overdoing on the volume because that's just something that most people struggle with. That doesn't benefit if you're trying to go for a high skill in the performance realm. So yeah, you do really need to be, you need to manage your stress even more judiciously and really pay attention to that, you know, so that way you can squeeze the ultimate performance out. Next question is from Healthy End Fitness. Could long hours of sitting at work affect my hamstring strength and be a cause of lower back pain during lifting?

Yes. Yes. Yeah, very simple. Very simple. And common. You know, it's funny. So just to break it down for people, right? So you get the hamstrings on the back of the leg here and they are shortened when you bend your knee, they're lengthened when you straighten your knee.

So if I straighten my leg out, that makes the muscle lengthen and if I bend my knee, it's shortened. So I'm going to use a different body part because we're so used to sitting that I think if I. Imagine this. Yeah. So imagine if your arm was in a bent position for 12 hours a day, how would you think it would

feel for you to get out of that position and then stretch your arm out? It would feel tight. Because what happens is whatever position you're in for a long period of time, your central nervous system, which controls your muscles, the central nervous system tells muscles to tighten or to loosen or to lengthen or shorten or whatever, it tries to create stability and functionality. So if I'm sitting with my knees bent all the time, what my CNS, my central nervous system,

understands about the hamstrings is, they're shortened right now. Let's create some strength and stability in this position. Meaning, because you're sitting more than you're standing, your stability's better better or your central nervous system reads that as needing more stability than standing. So then you stand up, you extend your leg, hamstrings are lengthening and your CNS is like what's going on?

Normally we're sitting down all day long. Now why does this contribute to low back pain? The hamstrings anchor at the pelvis. So think of your pelvis bone, right? If they're pulling down on the pelvis, they're shifting the pelvis down in some interesting, uh, positions. Meaning also you're going to place some stress on the low back cause it connects to the top of the pelvis.

So now you've got these opposing forces trying to stabilize your low back. Now you're standing, your, your, your hamstrings are tight cause they're always sitting. So now the pelvis is going to be in this unstable situation when you're standing. Then you go and work out and your hamstrings are not working in an optimal way for the exercise and boom, you get low back pain. This is also why if you've been listening to the show

for long enough, you've heard me talk about how getting to a place where I can do deep full range of motion squats eliminated my low back pain. It's not like because there was something magical that squashed it other than taking the hamstrings, the hips, everything through its fullest range of motion and strengthening them through that full range of motion then took away that shortening tightening feeling that you get from just sitting all the time and not going beyond 90 degrees. And so absolutely, if you have low back pain and you sit a lot and you don't have any sort of mobility practice to address both hamstring and hip mobility,

then it's more than likely is definitely contributing to low back pain. You know what's funny? This was, and this is trainers listening right now, this little trick, one of the most valuable things or effective things you can do when you train, when you get a brand new client, like a goal assessment, they didn't even hire you yet, you're just giving them a goal, client, like a goal assessment, they didn't even hire you yet.

You're just giving them a goal, you're doing a goal assessment, you're taking them through, and you're obvious, during a goal assessment as a trainer, you're trying to get the person to see your value, so they can hire you. And what the client is doing, potential client, is they're seeing, should I hire this trainer? So that's that session, right?

And one of the most effective ways to show your value to somebody in one session is not build muscle or burn body fat, because you can't, it's only one session. I can make pain relief happen. I can make it happen pretty quickly, 80 to 90% of the time when it comes to chronic pain. And so one of my tricks, if somebody had, oh, my low back is always tight. I'd lay them on the ground, I'd do some passive hamstring stretch and have them stand up and they'd be like, whoa, my little back feels a lot better. So all of a sudden I'm like, you know, this, this amazing person that understands

a, everything about the human body is at least what they think. And then they would hire me. But all I did was link in their hamstrings, get their, their CNS to chill out. The hamstring, uh, brace their core, get that strong again, that response. 15 minutes later, it's so passive thinking about like sitting in your chair right now, you're relaxed and you're just not supporting everything. And then when you're vertical too, besides having the shortened kind of pull and that

going against you too, you're not bracing properly to, you know, adjust for the, for those forces coming at you. Next question is from C. Bitt, 24. What are trends in the fitness market that you see and would recommend someone to invest into to create passive income? You know why I picked this question? And Adam, I'd love for you to go first because this is where you're a wizard.

But when somebody asks me, what do I invest in the fitness industry? My initial knee-jerk reaction is to say, find a different market. I know, so I was actually thinking too. It's not the best market to invest in, right? There's a lot of trends for sure. I'm not going to be far off from that. So initial thoughts I have when someone asks this,

a couple things. One, it seems to be that we get a lot of young trainers that hear this, we talk a little bit about investing and stuff like that. And so they're like, oh, I have X amount of dollars, where should I invest it? And then because we're in the fitness space, they think we have this like, you know, knowledge on like these great places to put money in the fitness space. The truth is, I think when you are at a place income wise, where say the number is, you know, less than $100, income-wise where, say, the number is less than $100,000 that you have to invest, the best place that you can invest it is in yourself.

Invest in yourself in educating yourself, growing your skill sets, improving your current ones, learning new skill sets. That money- That'll pay you back way more. That'll pay you back way more. What a great point. And so, now when you start talking hundreds and hundreds of thousands of dollars, millions of dollars, you've already achieved mastery in your space, whatever space it is that you're in. Okay, we can have different conversations about, you know, high level investing and angel investing and stocks and things like that. Okay. But for now, for most of the people that ask me this question, the answer is use

that money to invest in, in growing your skillsets, improving your current skillsets, becoming a master at whatever your craft is, that's going to pay you back and make you more money than anything else is going to. What a great, what a great point. Cause using the same example, uh, if you took somebody who didn't work out at all, ate a typical standard American diet, right, heavily in processed foods, and they said, I have $10,000 to invest, where should I put this money?

Well imagine if they took that $10,000, $5,000 even, and they hired a good trainer, they hired a good coach. Now the person is fit and healthy. How much more money could they potentially earn now because now they're a healthier fit version of themselves? Think about that. Or even forget the money they could earn. They're just lifestyle, the quality of their life.

You take somebody who's average health, which is not good, and you dramatically improve their health, they are gonna be far more effective at everything that they do. Doesn't matter what business they're in, I don't care what you do, you have more energy, you're more creative, you're more inspired, you can be more effective, and even besides that,

even if you don't care about making more money, you're just, life is much better. Your relationships are better, you're more positive, you've got more energy to enjoy things. So yeah, I can see what you're saying. And even that simple example, hire a good trainer or coach, make you fit and healthy. Watch how everything else improves. Yeah. I get where these questions come from. I mean, I probably would have asked this in my early 20s the same way too, but really that's just gambling. Even if I gave you good advice, I'm like, oh, this company I think is going to blow up and you did go risk whatever savings you

had on it and I was right, I still don't think I'm right. I still don't think that's the right answer just because I was right on, I guessed right on the company that's going to blow up. I'll tell you right now too, what's not, all those companies that we talked about four or five years ago when everybody thought- The fitness tech companies. Everybody thought we were crazy when we told everybody that the pelot know, the Pelotons and the Tonals and these companies that everybody's like, oh my God. No, they just got evaluated at a billion. Those things are sinking like a rock right now.

And so, yeah, I would be very cautious of putting my money in things like that. You know what it is, is that, like, you think of tech, right? Tech often has revolutionary advances in technology or product that change everything. They completely change everything. You're not gonna find that in fitness.

That's right. Because we already have the, you don't need equipment. We already understand human biology well enough. Yeah, the only thing that would be revolutionary would be like, if you could somehow, yes. Change human biology. Yeah, or behavior, right? Yeah, otherwise forget it. Yeah, no, and the fact that we, that's why, that would be revolutionary would be like things that change if you could somehow yes change human biology yeah or behavior right like yeah otherwise forget it yeah no and the fact that we that's why and even the behavior one i would say i would argue a little bit right it's like the only thing

that's going to break through like a tech thing that goes you know bananas and 50x's or 100x's for somebody is something that in the supplement or something game that literally changes human biology, which we really haven't seen anything like that because the rules of weight loss, building muscle, that that's we've known that for a really long time. And it's, and even though we have all these things that enhance it or make it better, none of it moves the needle that like, like tech can, like, like the internet coming out, like completely revolutionize how you do business and markets. There's nothing in the fitness space that is going to like completely change how you do it. I got something. I'm surprised to think of this. I'll tell you what, if you, and I don't know what this looks like,

but if you look at the impact that the GLP-1 peptides are having on weight loss, and you're in the fitness industry, you need to figure out how to work with them, how to coach people who work with them and how to use them for people who otherwise just can't figure this out even with the best coaching. That opportunity is massive. There's also opportunity for abuse and whatever, but I think if you look at GLP-1s and what they can do, how to work with them, I think that there's a huge, because we're looking

at culture shifting interventions. I think that reflects any trend though. I think that reflects any trend because what we're doing is providing them with sound training and sound nutrition benchmarks and foundations because people need to remember that they have to stick with these things even when there's a revolutionary product or there's some kind of new modality or system that they're applying. The same rules are always going to apply and we have to gauge success based upon how my behavior is improving and my growth potential is improving?

Listen, in the last year, I think this is the most, yeah, in the last year, Weight Watchers, for the GLP-1 argument you're making right now, is the stock that I've bought the most in the last year. I would still not give that advice. I still would not, as much as I'm betting and gambling on that, and I think that you're right GLP ones is going to disrupt the space and I think Weight Watchers was already like a you know

established successful company for 60 plus years that who better than to introduce that is designed around helping people lose weight who better than to Probably, you know skyrocket because of this but I would never tell than to probably, you know, skyrocket because of this. But I would never tell somebody that's got 10 to $100,000, like, this is what you should do because I got, I have my pulse on the fitness space. Yeah. I would still say the exact same advice, even knowing that about GLPs. That's a hundred percent of gamble for me. It can completely go belly up and it could be a different company that

figures that out and so yeah, this is just not, I mean, I'm just not a fan of looking at products or things in the fitness space. And I mean, we love to talk about it, right? We have fun talking about those things. And we're open to- I'm interested in that bungee cord class with all those ladies. You know what I share with them.

I would like to have fun, yeah. Yeah, no, I just- That could take off. I mean, it's such gambling. It's such gambling. The ShakeWave. And you know, here's the thing. It's so it's such gambling and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, you know, here's thing too, man, fitness is really finicky because it does rely on human behavior.

And, and I mean, this is how we, this is how when total was getting a, what, $4 billion valuation, why we were the only people that were saying like, nah, it happened because why? Cause we understand human behavior. It's and it's like, I don't care how cool the machine is. No. I don't care if it does 80% of the load for them. Unless you can change their personality and character.

That's right. And we understand that because we've been doing this for a long time. So yeah, no, I'm not a fan of taking shots in the dark and giving people advice on what to do, investing-wise in the fitness space. Regardless, if we do it and I talk about it and share it, I don't think it's good advice.

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