Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 2436: Do This First Thing in the Morning for Better Results (Listener Live Coaching)

Episode Date: October 2, 2024

In this episode of Quah (Q & A), Sal, Adam & Justin coach four Pump Heads via Zoom. Mind Pump Fit Tip: AVOID doing this first thing in the morning for better health results. (2:45) This is a good warning for people who use peptides for healing. (17:21) The anti-aging benefits of GHK-CU for the skin. (19:43) Diddy: Epstein Part II and going down the conspiracy rabbit hole. (21:11) Being sneaky. (33:42) Email handles you want to go away. (36:58) Organifi’s starter kit. (39:15) An example of how priming works. (40:34) The value in tracking. (44:23) Ice cream vs. gelato. (46:38) Fun Facts with Justin: Panda dogs. (51:08) Halloween festivities with Mind Pump. (52:54) Shout out to Higher Up Wellness! (57:26) #ListenerLive question #1 – How do you know if taking GLP-1s is the right thing for me? (1:00:02) #ListenerLive question #2 – How do I break very unhealthy snacking habits in the middle of the day? (1:13:49) #ListenerLive question #3 – What is the difference between creatine monohydrate and creatine hcl, and would creatine hcl cause fewer gut issues? (1:29:07) #ListenerLive question #4 – How do I lean out without losing muscle from where I am now? (1:36:37) Related Links/Products Mentioned Ask a question to Mind Pump, live! Email: [e-mail] Visit Entera Skincare for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! ** Promo code MPM at checkout for 10% off their order or 10% off their first month of a subscribe-and-save. ** Visit Organifi for the exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! ** Promo code MINDPUMP at checkout for 20% off. Organifi Stater Kit: Starting your new juicing routine has never been easier! Snag this simplified starter kit and see what the lifestyle’s all about. 7 days each of Green Juice and Red Juice Travel Packs, 30 days of Essential Magnesium Capsules, 1 branded Organifi shaker bottle. ** October Promotion: MAPS Muscle Mommy 50% off! ** Code OCTOBER50 at checkout ** Building Muscle with Adam Schafer – Mind Pump TV TRANSCEND your goals! Telehealth Provider • Physician Directed GET YOUR PERSONALIZED TREATMENT PLAN! Hormone Replacement Therapy, Cognitive Function, Sleep & Fatigue, Athletic Performance and MORE. Their online process and medical experts make it simple to find out what’s right for you. Chaos: Charles Manson, the CIA, and the Secret History of the Sixties The Wall Test | Mind Pump TV Mind Pump #2160: Macro Counting Master Class Ninja NC301 CREAMi Ice Cream Maker, for Gelato, Mix-ins, Milkshakes, Sorbet, Smoothie Bowls & More, 7 One-Touch Programs, with (2) Pint Containers & Lids, Compact Size, Perfect for Kids, Silver ‘Panda Dogs’: Chinese zoo goes viral for luring visitors with painted pups Visit Brain.fm for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners. ** Get 30 days of free access to science-backed music. ** MAPS GLP-1 | Muscular Adaptation Programming System Mind Pump #2410: How to Maximize Fat Loss & Preserve Muscle on GLP-1s (Introducing MAPS GLP-1) Mind Pump #2345: The Muscle Mommy Revolution Mind Pump #2320: Throw Away the Scale! Mind Pump Podcast – YouTube Mind Pump Free Resources People Mentioned Michael Smoak (@higherupwellness) Instagram Mari Llewellyn (@marillewellyn) Instagram Kris Gethin (@krisgethin)  Instagram  

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and your shipping address and we'll get that shirt right out to ya. A lot of people out there will tell you what you need to do first thing in the morning to burn more body fat and build more muscle, but I'm gonna tell you something different. Don't do this thing in the morning. First thing when you wake up, go on your phone.

It's a terrible way to get started. It actually primes your central nervous system for stress. Studies show how you set your day up in the morning can have effects that affect the entire day. And again, we get up on look at our phones, get those alerts, get all that weird crazy news, social media. Don't go on it. Wait at least a couple hours before you check your phone. This one is like speaking directly to me right now. Oh yeah. Yeah, I mean, like speaking directly to me right now. Oh yeah. Yeah, I mean, ever since I started this docu-series,

I'm back to like, you know, influencer game or whatever. Interacting with randos. And I just don't, man, I can't stress enough how much I don't like it, you know? I just don't like the, and I, cause I'm very aware of that. I'm very aware. Cause you weren't doing it.

Yeah, I'm very aware that it pulls it, it pulls it. I'm doing it, I'm having to, I'm posting every single day, I'm engaging aware. Because you weren't doing it. Yeah, I'm very aware that it pulls it. It pulls it. I'm doing it. I'm having to, I'm posting every single day. I'm engaging with the audience and I get the people that are very happy and receptive and encouraging and they love it, you know? And then there's the other half that are just the hate and the talking shit and the, you know, all the, it's like, and it's just unhealthy to consume that and You know, I mean we were all at an age in a place in our life where it's like that

We don't have to I don't want to I don't have to I'm not going to and so It's like this necessary evil right now because of what I've committed to right. I've committed to do this thing And so I'm going to and I will see it through But I already feel it pulling me where I do bullshit like that, where it's like Saturday morning, wake up, and I have like a normal routine, and I find myself like, oh, I wonder how the docu-series is doing.

Let me open it up and look. Right, yeah, two of the most plastic times of the day for the brain, right? So the brain, it molds itself. You have neural pathways that can change depending on behaviors, and there are times of the day when it's primed, the brain is primed to move in a certain directions versus others.

There's two times, it's before bed and it's when you wake up. Right before bed, if you consume certain types of information that induce certain feelings, okay? That's what we're looking at here. What kind of feelings do I want to induce my body? That feeling then primes your your mind and your body? and if you do this first thing in the morning if you wake up and you get on your phone and social media is a bunch of You know, it's a bunch of fear. It's a bunch of

Alerts it's you know lists and things I need to do I got to get to work maybe or It's news. It's politics, it's look at this crazy thing that happened, whatever, that primes your brain for the rest of the day. So your brain actually gets set up for, you know, more of that kind of stuff. So if it's stuff that gets you kind of worked up, annoyed and irritated first thing in the morning, your brain is actually primed for it for the rest of the day. Now what does that mean? What does that mean primed for that for the rest of the day? Well, if it's alarming information first thing in the morning, your brain is your brain is now primed to be alarmed

For the rest of the day or that means if you're negative you're gonna look for it in any Interaction you have with other people to their her misfortune. Yes, it's like it's so it's so unfortunate that you know, that's and it's unconscious a lot of times because you're taking it in and then Whatever the subject is that comes up and you're talking with you know Significant other your kids whoever it is that like bring something up. It's like well Yeah, like I'm very sure Katrina called me out on it Just literally the other day because and she's been really patient because she knows that we're committed to this doing this and she knows it's not normal and

she's not the first time she's been in this in our relationship where I bury myself into something and she just becomes the amazing supportive partner and she has been and you know I'll get in it like that and I'll be in it all day and then all of a sudden I get short you know short because I'm irritable because of what I'm reading and engaging with and doing and then it all sudden change and then it's not her fault like and then all sudden I would give her a short response and then so she's just like hey easy I'm not one of your Instagram trolls. I'm gonna connect this I'm gonna connect this to things that people care about which is like fat

loss and muscle gain although I think you should care about how you prime the way you feel. But let me just give an example right. So you're meeting, you're talking with someone, you're hanging out with them and they give you a funny look or you get a weird feeling. Now if you're primed to be alarmed or primed to be irritated you're more likely to think what's wrong with that person? What's going on? What is it something I did? What did I do? What's happening? If you're primed to be joyful or thoughtful, you might be like, yeah, maybe something's bothering them.

I wonder if everything's okay. Or maybe you'll be like, eh, it's probably nothing. Has nothing to do with me. I hope everything's fine, right? Now, the feelings that you have change your hormones. Your hormones and other chemicals in the body. And then those things change how your body adapts and processes, how it processes food,

how it adapts to stimulus-like exercise. So you could change your cravings, it could change things like blood sugar level. We know this, by the way, if you, if somebody had a CGM on, right, a continual glucose monitor, measuring your blood sugar, and you ate nothing, but you got an alarming phone call, and then you would see on the CGM a spike in blood sugar.

What's going on? Well, you're stressed, and so your body is telling your liver to dump this sugar out, right? This glycogen out, because you're stressed, you're gonna need extra energy. So now you have a spike in blood sugar, which then has to be followed by this spike in insulin. You get enough of those throughout the day,

or you get that moderately high throughout the day, your body starts to become, or lose its sensitivity to insulin. And then this can become lots of different problems, metabolic issues, right? So how you set yourself up throughout the day, literally, if you think of your day as having a filter that you look at through the entire day,

it could take that filter and shift it to a more positive, more thoughtful, more big picture, or you could shift it to me-focused, selfish, upset, angry, irritable. That's how you start your day out. It's very important to start your day out intentionally. So what I'm trying to say here is be intentional about it. Most of us don't start our days out intentional. We wake up and then what calls to us is our phone. We get on there and then the phone directs us. Whatever news directs us, whatever's on there directs us versus when I first wake up tomorrow morning,

I'm going to intentionally read this thing, I'm gonna take this time, and then by this time, then I'll allow myself to get on my phone or whatever. And be honest about your behaviors and patterns. I had to really have an honest gut check with that and put my phone in a place where I can't get it. I was like, I have to put this just far enough at a distance, so I'm gonna end up going to brush my teeth,

do my routine, do all these things ahead of time before I even get to it. Because before that, I would, I'm like, I'm not gonna look at it. Maybe I'll just grab it for a second and just see if there's anything pressing I need for work or whatever It is like, you know, whatever justification I have for it, but I started just put it like Literally on the other side of the room in the corner and it's like charged up over there

So like I would I can't even hear a noise I can't hear like I can't see any little light ding or anything because it's just like, that will set me off and it will affect my whole day. Yeah. I mean, there's another tip right in what you just said too, which is doing things with intent. That's it. Like, think of, if you just approached everything that you do with intent or purpose, it probably would reshape a lot of things that you do.

Like, just think, like, but because we do so many things reactively I mean we tend to do that we're like that's we tend to allow things to unfold and then we react to them versus Setting your intentions out from the jump like you know what today? And that why that's so close to home for me right now is I had just recently the um The injury that happened to me and boy did it it just, it nagged me out, dude. It really just was super, I mean, and I had this moment, it's recorded, you get to watch me live. You recorded, you're on a live while you're here.

Yeah, yeah. Real time, yeah. So, I mean, it's not like you, I mean, I was not. You can tell on your face. Yeah, right, I was not prepared for that, I was not trying to do something, it was just like, and then inside I'm wrestling with this feeling feeling that I'm having. And then... Did you want to by the way? When I watched it I thought, man did you have a feeling

like just turn the phone off? Oh of course, of course. I was so... and that was part of me pacing in the garage was just like like trying to gather my thoughts. Wait, you know, I guarantee everybody's been here before. A lot of people have been there before. So as of people have been there before. So as much as I wanted to just disappear, I was like, you know what, I'm gonna work this out. I'm gonna talk through it. And then if you, I don't know if you paid attention,

but the very next day, I'm like, you know what, I woke up and I said, we're gonna turn lemons into lemonade. Like this is an opportunity for me to do these things and work on these body parts and I can still build a ton of muscle and build a great physique and then continue to rehab and it was a lesson learned, shame on me type of deal. But that's right, this is gonna be a pot.

And like so, I literally the next morning had a morning like that. That's how I started the morning was I'm not gonna allow that thing that really, really did set me back and discourage me. I mean, that was just like, ugh, especially on a product, like I would care. I mean, no matter why it would be discouraging, but the fact that I set out this

thing like I'm gonna go do this thing to the world and now I'm documenting it and then the last thing I want is a setback like that while I'm in the process of trying to show everybody watch me build as much muscle as possible in the shortest period of time that is not working in my favor. Yeah, but it's so relatable, you know, like to that point, like so many people get value from those moments because it is like, you're gonna face that. Like you have all the intentions, everything's working out

just how you have it set, but you know, then all of a sudden, boom, you know, this challenge presents itself. I'm glad you said that because when I say, you know, start your day out with intention, what I don't necessarily mean is you plan your day and try and control everything, and then this is how everything's gonna work out.

That will also screw you up when it doesn't go that way. And life's gonna do that, especially if you have kids, and stuff happens, and then you had all these plans, well I was supposed to do 15 minutes of meditation or prayer, and I was supposed to, but then my kid woke up, and then you're super disappointed. All your expectations are dashed. That's not what I mean.

What I mean by your intention is starting out your day with something that's gonna prepare you for the unknown. And so that's what I mean. So it may be something esoteric. It probably should be something esoteric, something big picture. If you have a faith, start your day off with something like that, because then whatever happens throughout the day,

you're in a different place. Will you share with the audience what you sent me? Which, what did I send you? I forgot. Your prayer that you wrote? Oh, I don't know, that's really personal prayer. I know, but it's really, I mean it's really- For parenting?

I mean it's just, to me it's so on point to what we're talking about, like you have something that's very important very important to you and instead of letting the wind blow you left or right Like you're making it a daily thing that and not only did you just pray you thought about it? You wrote it out, which I think is a very powerful. I have like five that I've written out I mean, I'd love for you to share one of them You know to share all of them with that but if there's one because I just think that's such a It's an exercise that I'm actually guilty of not doing, and I know the power and the value

of that. I mean, my whole life we grew up religious, spiritual, right? And so, I know the power of prayer and using it as an exercise. I think when you actually make it very intentful like that and go, like, you know what, I'm going to gather my thoughts or my things that are important to me and I ride it All out so I have a prayer that like this is what I did. I wrote it out I wrote a few out I won't and the one that I wrote out was for being a parent and It I mean I wrote I wrote it out. I read it and it worked it literally Literally worked and the way it worked is I got changed. So it wasn't like the things around me. That's right got changed

I got changed and then I encountered more challenges. When you're a kid, you're gonna, I mean, excuse me, when you're a parent, you're gonna encounter, it's a hard thing to be a parent, it's a hard thing. You love something more than yourself. And the battle, the thing that I'm becoming aware of, which was, it's true for health and fitness.

So as a person who's managed gyms and trained clients and all that stuff, you guys know this, the struggle was always between your clients and the world. It was like, okay, here's what it takes to be healthy, but everything else is telling you to do this over here. Everyone else is telling you to be this way. All the food, all the medications, all the ways you're supposed to live,

the world is telling you to do it that way, but if you follow that, you're going to be unhealthy. So I'm telling you to live totally differently. So that's why it's such a struggle. It's a struggle because you gotta be different. Raising kids is no different. There's a right way to raise your kids, and that's usually countered what the world

and what the media tells them. So that's what the prayer was. So it said, I said in it, it said, Lord Almighty, thank you for the blessings of children. Thank you for letting me experience a small piece of godly love. I am challenged, Lord. Please give me clear wisdom and strength and conviction when parenting. Please help me be present constantly so I can be consistent. Lord, help me remain firm and not yield to fear or to the threats of rejection. Lord, give me reminders of your love and support as I present parent my children in ways that counter the world

Lord give me calm and loving feelings I need to parent my kids and help me raise them to turn to you and to turn away from the world Amen, so it's that and that helped a lot and but you're here and there the fear fears of rejection That's the struggle for at least for me a lot of it is like yeah, I want to be my kids friend all the time Yeah, well, and I think the powerful thing that you just said too is that, you know, a lot of people think that you do something like that

and then you get what you want. You get an answer, it's not always the answer that you want. You know what I'm saying? But you get an answer. Well, if you hear it's about me, it's not about fix my kid, fix that. Help me, help me give me the strength I need, you know, type of deal.

But yeah, starting the day out with intentions like that is not the same as trying to control your day. And that's why when you said what you said, Justin, I thought that was so important because in our space in fitness, I think a lot of people think starting your day out with intentions means schedule. Oh, this is what I'm doing at this time? You know, it's like all those.

Exactly what they think, yeah. Good luck, good luck with your schedule when it goes wrong and then now you ruined your day. That's what you're gonna feel like. My whole day is ruined because it didn't go exactly the way I missed my workout, my meals weren't planned. It's like, well, you definitely schedule, definitely plan, but also set your intention to be in a different space.

So when the thing doesn't work out, it's all good. You know, I was gonna ask you, Adam, you brought up your injury. We have to talk about how shocking it was to get injured because of how the peptides made you feel leading up to that. And I think this is a good warning for people who use these healing peptides like BPC157, thymus and beta. It's the bad side of it. Yes. So it's so damn effective. I was just sharing this with my sister-in-law,

just had surgery and she's healing. She's actually using thymus and beta and BPC right now. She's kind of asking me, will I feel it? Or this thing, I'm just like, well right now you're in a cast, so you're not gonna feel or see much at all. It's when you start rehabbing. If you know what an injury like that normally takes

or what the doctors are telling you, oh, expect six months, two a year, what you'll notice is the speed at recovery when you start rehabbing. I said, and I said, it's scary fast. If I had to put a number on it, I know this is completely generic and there's so many other variables,

but I'd say cuts it in half. The cover time, which is crazy when you think about that. you if you have an injury and I'm very familiar with injury I've been injuring myself for many many years and for the most part of it, you know, I've been rehabbing myself You know I have been lucky to be surrounded by a lot of really brilliant people that are in the physical therapy world and obviously in our field Have a pretty good understanding of the body and so been been rehabbing my, so when I get injured, whether it be an ankle roll toward ligaments or I know to expect like, okay, this is going to send me back this long. We'll take that. And that shit,

like it wasn't even until you actually asked me the other day, like when exactly when I had to go on my phone, I was like, Oh shit, that was actually just like four weeks ago. And I'm like, I'm already pushing weight on that thing. That was, it like four weeks ago. And I'm like, I'm already pushing weight on that thing? It's like, wow. Yeah, you had a visible tear with bruising. That takes months. That's like three months before you can start,

because it takes a long time. You were feeling nothing. And so here's the dark side. The dark side is you'll use these peptides. You'll heal way faster. Still don't push yourself. Do not push yourself, because it doesn't mean you're ready. It means you're getting ready faster.

But don't be like, I'm all good and go for it. No, that's, I mean, again, like a lesson I need to continue to learn, right? But that's totally what I would say is the, probably the bad side of it, right? If it is, right? That's like, you just have to be really aware to still take it slow and that you're just coming off it.

Speaking of peptides, I've been reading about GHKC, Euphor's skin. Oh, wow. That's Doug over there. Yeah. You're big on that, aren't you? Don't you consistently use that? Yeah, I do.

We have a sponsor, actually. And Terra Skincare's got it, the blue one. The blue one's got GHK. He's the best about being on top of all that stuff. So I use it all the time, but nonetheless, if you look at the studies on it, it reduces oxidative stress, specifically from UV rays. It is anti-cancer for the skin.

They've identified 30-something percent of the genes in the skin when applied that will switch to a rejuvenating state versus damaging state. Oh, interesting. Yeah. It's like, so when you read about it, this is like, we're probably five years away from all skincare products having some kind of, like GHKC in you.

That's how effective it is with the studies. It's pretty crazy. Yeah, it's crazy stuff, so. You think like uber rich people will like create baths and baths and things like that? They probably already do that. I mean, I was just thinking about that. I was like, you know, I see how effective it is for the skin. Just walk into it. I've used it on my psoriasis. I see, I was just thinking about that. I was like, you know, I see how effective

it is for the skin. I've used it on my psoriasis. I see how effective it is. And I'm just like, would it be that bad if I just bathed in this stuff? I know it's really expensive to do that, but there's got to be some uber rich like King or somebody who does it. Like, make me my GHK bath. Like the fat dude in Dune when he's in that freaking bath. Yes. Maybe that's what that is. Maybe that's what that is. Yeah. Yeah. There's gotta be some, some royal person probably that has got like, I'm sure they found bathtub full of a Diddy's house. I'm sure they found a way to shoe or Diddy into the conversation. Hey, it's getting weird. Yeah. This is Epstein part two. I'm not even paying attention to that. Is it part two or is it, this is, no, no, no.

Is it really part two or is this you're taking the fall for Epstein's? Well, they're finding that there were lots of recordings of high, like very famous celebrities doing things. So I watched a interview. And there was a story about Justin Bieber in particular. Yeah, no, I heard, I heard. yeah, I heard Diddy was like, yeah. So, okay, I wish I remember what interview I heard, but it was like a close friend of him and he was basically,

I don't want to say he was defending Diddy, but he was trying to challenge people to think of it as like, listen, somebody taught him how to do all this. It's not like he just is this person who like that is like that there is a system to what he was doing and he's not the first one. I 100% believe that. I really wish you guys would read the book Chaos. I'm going to keep just like you're talking about Irresistible. I'm going to be that guy that keeps fucking pounding this into everybody's brain. You need to read the book, chaos. Cause they talk all about this.

Yes. And this happened a long time ago, dude. And you see how this, all these pieces move together, uh, to the fact where everybody was getting shielded. You start looking at court cases, just start looking at court cases of people that got absolved of all of their crimes. And you're like, what? They have all this evidence. They literally used like

the entire department from LA police department to arrest these very specific people that were suspects for this murder. And then they got off magically, you know? And it's just like, you start looking into it and all these cases point back to intelligence agencies. Yeah, I feel like every single one. I feel like what they did is they take someone like Diddy and then they work with them and say you're gonna do this, you're gonna film this and we'll take care of you and you're gonna be the one that hosts the parties and you work with us. Now do you think it starts, we'll go down the conspiracy thing with you guys here for

a minute, do you think it starts with like, you know way back when Diddy gets Caught doing some some shit something bad, right? Whether it's some younger other music star or something and then the you know Agency goes blackmail him. Yeah, then they go. Hmm. Oh, he likes to do this type of stuff and he's into this world like this susceptible they look for people are susceptible right and this type of stuff and he's into this world. They're susceptible, they look for people that are susceptible. And influential, right? They can influence people, right? And then they go, here's a deal, we're gonna go ahead and brush it on the rug, but this is what we want you to do.

And then that's how that kind of like, you think that's how it happens? Could be, could very well be. Or maybe he just parties with them and comes up with them and they're like, we'll take care of you, but you take care of us first, you know, who knows? But I think he was that guy for the music industry. That's what it seems like. It's just, you see all the music execs spontaneously stepping down.

It's happening, all of a sudden this domino effect is happening, people are deleting all their accounts on Twitter. Celebrities are scrubbing their accounts and pictures of them with Diddy. They're afraid and there's a lot of shit that has been done that is, you know, who knows if it's just like FC. Like, you know, so many people were involved,

but like, you don't know if they're ever going to name names. So I have a theory, Justin. So there's two theories. One theory is it's all controlled by these nefarious whatever and nothing's gonna ever happen. I feel like there are elements within these agencies that are evil and then there's elements of honest people. And right now, it's a bit of a battle. Oh, I believe that. Yeah, I think that there's people that are trying to do things on the inside, and there's people

trying to fight it. Think about what is true first, right? So the whole like men who stare at goats, true, right? Like they did all these weird experiments. They did all these weird things to try and get an edge psychologically over our adversaries. Or if they're doing it over in Russia, we're going to bring it over here and experiment on our own people, which is what they did.

And two, the CIA was supposed to never be involved in any domestic anything. Surveillance, nothing. That's against their entire code of conduct. They're only allowed to look at international threats. And they started turning it in. Because there were threats became here. Because there's anti-war protests. And the military industrial complex machine

is very much tied into everything that they are researching and all that stuff. So did you see that person who leaked? So remember the first debate with Trump and Kamala? Someone leaked from ABC. Hey, she got all the questions ahead of time. We were gonna only fact check Trump. So it was a leaked document

basically saying we fixed the debate. Oh, I didn't know that. The person who leaked it? Yeah, that came out. The person who leaked it got in a car accident and died. Shut your face. No, that's real, dude. No, that's real.

That just happened? Yeah, dude. That just happened. Did you know that, Doug? I did not know that. Look it up. Yeah, look it up. Fact check it. Yeah, please make sure that's real. That just happened? Did you know that Doug? I did not know that. Look it up. Yeah, fact check it. Please make sure that's real before we spread the news.

A leaked document from ABC car crash. Let's do that. See if it comes up. And then here's the other one. Okay, but where I was going with that is just like there's different sects of the intelligence agencies that cover certain areas. There's ones that look at cults. There's ones that look at the occult, practices within rituals.

What they're doing is they're allowing things from afar, but they're monitoring. They're seeing how these leaders can have this ultimate control over their followers. And then they take from that as data, and they figure out ways to also do this to our adversaries or our enemies or get information and intel from other countries. And so it's like, we're actively doing all this stuff. What makes you think it's not a huge leap to go from that to then all of a sudden, if you're going to turn that on the American people, like what that looks like. Especially if your job is to quote unquote, protect the country and then you-

There's no accountability. Right. Who's the enemy? Who's even looking into their, like, again, you just throw conspiracy theory out there and people are like, ah, just scoff at it. Well, there's, I mean, look, it's, it's, for right now, conspiracy theorists are doing pretty damn well with their predictions, to be honest. The, do you guys see the letter that was released by the guy that was on the golf course that was gonna shoot Trump, but they found him beforehand? Mm-hmm.

They released his, the DOJ released his letter. You guys know what open communication is? Do you know what that term is? This is a term that is used by intelligence to say they'll release something as a way to communicate something but also to be like, it's not us. So the letter literally says in it, essentially there's a $150,000 bounty on Trump's head, is what the letter is saying. So it's like they're putting it out,

be like, look what we found, it's weird. And other people are like, why would you put this out? Why would you put anything like this out? This could get people who are on the fence to wanna go after Trump even more. This is crazy, this is wild. When's the last time a president had two assassination attempts? Has that ever been two?

Not like openly like that? They said three now, there was one, they found a car with explosives in it. Oh. So that was another one that happened recently. Oh, this is weird. Did you check these guys? Yeah, you know, here's the thing

with these type of fact checks. You got people who are saying that it's true and another people who are saying it's not true. So I don't know. What is going on? So what we can guarantee is that Sal just pissed off half of our audience. Yeah, pissed off half of our audience.

Why would I piss? Anytime you talk about it. Do your research. Yes, exactly. Anytime. Do your own research. Anytime we talk about anything controversial like that, you're guaranteed 50% of the people will be like, yes.

The other 50% will be like, oh my god. Yeah, yeah. Sal's being big again. Yeah, here we go. I think the bottom line is there's so much disinformation out there, it's hard to know what is true and what isn't. I mean, that's intentional.

It is. It is intentional. So it can be totally true, but we don't know for sure. You can argue and debate that. But out of all of us, I think we all know that I've been the most skeptical. Here's what I'll say is I'm at least at a place where it's like, there's some funny business going on no matter what.

Like I don't want you, there's no way you're convincing me funny business isn't happening. Even if we just have that as the precedent, that's it. I'm not going to make certain claims. I'm good with that. Yeah, but there's some funny business. Yeah, there's serious, like there's some serious, like shit isn't just like unfolding this way and there's not stuff like shit isn't just like unfolding this way and there's not stuff being played behind the scenes like just I mean to me that's just so obvious it's so obvious

super naive to have that opinion it is I think that's what I think I think that's naive to just think that there's nothing going on and that everybody's in everybody's looking out for the best interest of the American people like that is crazy if you think that I mean and that's just simply by being around enough of these people that get put in this position. Like the type of person. That's it. That, once you're around that.

Who would want that position? Yeah. A crazy person. Free politicians and narcissists. Not all these altruistic people you think. No, no. Oh yeah, they always wanna help people and stuff. Like, oh sure they do.

Yeah, they get crazy enriched every year that they work doing all this stuff. You know, like, nah, it ain't about you guys. So to me, that right there is like the big red flag. It's like, it really isn't about the American people. But what it is about is making you think that. Is making people feel that way, to create the divide. So people feel like they need to defend their team.

All you have to do is make people feel like they're choosing themselves. So you give them two options that you're happy with. It's no different look, you do this with your kids all the time. You want your kids to eat something, here's what you do. You give them two options and you want them to eat both. What do you want tonight for dinner buddy? Carrots or celery? I'll take the carrot. Now it feels like you picked but you pick from the choices. Yes. He's the alternate advanced clothes Yes, either either clothes is good for you. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Yes. It's an alternate advance Oh you this or that we the one either one you choose son. I'm happy with you And so, you know, you know that whoever they pick you're gonna be okay

So, I don't know all these assassination assassination attempts makes me think this guy Well, that's what I so to me that's again why I feel like it'd be naive to not think this for the first time ever. I think we have a person running who not everybody like the, a lot of people don't. Yeah. That don't want him on board. You know what I'm saying? And it feels like for the first time ever, there's just, there's actually some people

that want that person in office, but the people that are really making decisions behind. I mean, to me, it's like, won't it be so obvious if like, he doesn't win this election? I feel like it's, if he doesn't and Kamala Harris, who was the most hated VP in history after Sleepy Joe wins beats beats him like come on like amazing like our our turn of our record votes again for her like is that possible here's what I want I want to go I want a government so small I don't care who wins that's what I want I want one that's so small put whoever you want they can't do anything to me anyway such a small I feel like we should be by state. We're so big, and that's how you keep government small.

Every state has their own, and outside of that, don't even matter. It's like, everybody's like- 50 countries? Yes, it's like, literally, I really believe it should be ran like 50 countries. I really do believe that. I believe it should be ran like 50 countries,

and that way, you're not that far away from right where all the decisions are being made. You're a drive away from the people that are making those decisions. This is like a group of people in one part of the country is making the decisions for all the countries. It gets away from us. It's like, let's keep it.

The community aspect needs to be there and be involved. Yeah, I definitely think that there should be, and that's one way to shrink it would be to divide it up in all the states. That would be a trap. Do you see it as Argentina? You think so? You think it would be a disaster?

Yeah, I do. They're so intertwined. There's so much trade. You would get these trade wars that would probably start happening. California would be like, well, we'll put some tariffs on this, whatever. And then they'd be like, well, we'll return it back.

And then next thing you know, you live in a state where you can't get fruits and vegetables and all you have are potatoes because the other states won't sell them to you. And you got weird markets. You get smugglers coming in. You got weird markets on the street. You make moonshine runs.

Who knows? You could create a black market for potatoes. And so that'd be kind of cool. Dude, oh bro, how funny was that? I just remembered. How funny was that video I sent you guys of my son? Oh, so great. Her first thing in the morning.

I died, bro. He's like this lollipop. Hey, listen. Where is that at? Where's the camera at? So we have a ring camera in his room, okay? We don't always have it up, but thankfully we had it up that morning. And my wife gets an alert, it's like 4.45 in the morning. Oh, it's 4.45?

Maybe, okay, in the morning. And what he did was he went out of his room, he snuck again into her purse, he knows she has lollipops in there, I told you guys, these are for church. He went in there and then he went back in his room, and so I get a text from her, it's a recording of the recording,

and he's sitting on the edge of his bed by himself, it's like 5 a.m., and he's like, by himself, like, oh, this is awesome! Having the time of his life! You could tell, look at his face too, he's like, so excited, oh my god, this is a good lollipop! But he did confess. I was gonna ask, so how do you handle something like that? Because there's obviously, there's a part of you that's laughing, right? You're just dying laughing. Well, because there's a part of you that's like, okay, we's obviously there's a part of this laughing, right? You're just dying laughing. Well because there's a part of you is like, okay We need to definitely get a hold of this mischievous behavior. Yeah, so it's like how do you how do you it's age-appropriate, right?

For a four-year-old they're gonna do stuff like so he comes up and he's like mama I I was really sneaky and I went your purse. Oh, he's just straight. Yeah, he told himself out He's like, oh, she's like you can't don't do that go my purse So now she's like we gotta hide them better and let's move my purse to different place That way if he doesn't get he won't find them, but that video The bed just like you can so happy so happy so who's more guilty in in like those type of situations to Like default to laughing about it and like not parenting it like So who out of you two is more? Would laugh? Yeah, yeah, more likely to be like.

Gosh, you know, we'd be more likely to laugh if we were together. Cause then her and I would look at each other and you just start laughing. Oh, okay. Yeah, she's pretty good. I would be pretty good, I think. I gotta think, how would I react to that?

I think I'd be all right. I'd be laughing at a thing. That's why I think it's like. Especially watching the video. Yeah, when Max. These little feet are like, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, left out a few. That's why I think it's like- Especially watching the video. Yeah, when Max- His little feet are like, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, when Max does stuff that I, behaviors I don't want to encourage,

but then I'm like, part of it's kind of funny is just like, you know, like, you know, just, it's hard to be like, okay, this is the time where I'm parenting right now, you know, not like thinking how hilarious this is. And he always says it too. I was sneaky. I was like, okay, I mean, you know you're sneaky.

You probably shouldn't be. I mean, I told you guys a long time ago on the show, one of the biggest mistakes I made was, uh, you know, telling him like, oh, just the boys. Right. And so now, I said, Oh my God, all the time. When we're like him and I are just doing stuff like we don't tell mom, right. I'm like, no, we listen. And Katrina's been getting mad at me. She's like, you know, you need to tell my son that he does not keep secrets from me. I'm like, I'm not telling him to keep secrets. I made a mistake one time to be like just the boys.

And now, like, I mean, literally, it could be anything. Like, hey, you want to go for a ride? You know what I'm saying? And I'll let him sit in the front seat. Like, I put his car seat in the front seat. Trini used to get mad about that, right? So I'd do it anyway. And he'd be like, well, tell mom.

And I'm like, no, you could tell your mom. She knows I'm letting you sit there, dude. We've already talked about it. So I definitely created that monster. Oh, yeah. They always roll you under the bus, though. Yeah, always. Always. We come walking created that monster. Oh, yeah, we had they always roll you into the bus though. Yeah Always come walking the door. Hey, yeah, we'll come walk in the door. They'll be like daddy. Let me sit the front Bro, yeah, I was like my student. No way anyways like I know like he's gonna tell you. Yeah

Yeah, oh dude his voice being a crazy random thing. So there's this court case like that had to happen. I think it might've been over COVID, but it was like they couldn't show up in person. And so this guy, like, this is something that my junior high brain would have came up with, like, Oh, this is going to be hilarious. Right? This guy writes in his handle, like is his name right this guy writes in his handle like is his name buttfucker 3000 a Court case a judge he's going over and like starts the proceeding and then sees his name

He's like what is this your name who's this name he's they start like getting into he's oh my god I didn't know that you like read the name and like he's like trying to backpedal and I forgot it up there Yeah I was dying dude. I'm like that's like that reminds me of everybody's first email address I'm mine. I still get dude. It's still attached to my original account and every once in a while There's like it's through Apple and it's crazy chicks for me It's like I mean it's crazy chicks for me. So it's like, I mean, it's 19, 18. Hold on, you were 18? Yeah, 18 or 19. I did that maybe 2021 tops. Crazy chicks for me. Yeah, yeah. It's crazy. And then the number four, then me. And it was the handle I made for like,

literally it was like the very first hotmail account or something which is also attached to like my very first Apple purchase or whatever. So anything Apple related, it goes, links back. So every once in a while, I'll log into something, it'll be like, crazy chicks for me. And I'm like, oh my God, dude. Of course, cause I'm not tech savvy,

it's like been stuck there forever. My mom for the long, I think I told you guys this, my mom for the longest time, cause she, my brother made my mom's email, because she wasn't tech savvy or whatever. And this was in the late 90s. Maybe, so my brother was like 13, 14. So she's like, make me an email, I want an email.

I was like, okay mom. Hers was, I don't remember what the full thing was, but the beginning of it was Italian rage. She's like, excuse me, that's your email. So she had to give people flying chonklas. Italian rage. She stopped using it like recently. Oh my god. I used to do stupid stuff like that. That's a good time. Hey we're supposed to talk about Organifi. They have a starter kit. I want to hear about the starter kit. I didn't know that., so that it's in our notes Doug. You know about the organifi starter kit Is it just like a like a sample kit of all their stuff?

Yes, so let's see you get seven days each of green juice red juice travel packs 30 days of essential magnesium capsules and a Shaker bottle this came from us. Yeah I gave him a long time ago. What's the cost of that, Doug? Do you know what the price is of that? I love those single packets you can just dump in. That's a great idea. It's brilliant. That we came up with.

Brilliant idea. So brilliant, I'm pretty sure it was mine. I think it was a long time ago. You know why I know it was yours? Because we used to sell starter products at 24. Yes. That's why when I saw it, I think Katrina actually told me they finally implemented it.

So I'm pretty sure that's what I saw. I think Katrina actually told me they finally implemented it. So that's what I'm pretty sure that's what that's for It's $39.95, but if you use our code, which is mind pump, I believe you get 20% off there you go So you got seven days of green juice seven days of red juice? 30 days of the essential magnesium and then you get the shaker bottle. That's not bad. It's a great It's a great try it out that way. No, it's a that's a great. That's a great idea I mean, that's cut that's exactly what we used to do in the gym industry. It used to be a $50 starter kit, and in there had the shakes, the bars,

like a whole bunch of stuff so people could try it out. It was just a brilliant way to introduce all your supplements. I wanted to bring something up to you, Adam, about your filming, your workouts, and your, I watched a little bit of one today this morning with you, and you were doing the zone one priming on your, as watched a little bit of one today this morning with you and you were doing the zone one priming on your, as part of your warm up. Yeah, rough.

Yeah, no, it was tough. But you know, priming, and I wanted to get into this and I have an example of this, priming just literally means what it sounds like. It sets the central nervous system up to fire in a more beneficial, effective way for the activity that you're about to do. So if you're about to bench press or squat or overhead press, a warmup just gets everything warm and generally wakes up the central nervous system. That's what a good warmup should do. Priming is far more targeted and you're looking at, okay, I specifically personally need to work on holding my shoulder blades back

when I do a press, or maintaining core stability when I do a deadlift, or my ankle mobility isn't great, they're really tight, so when I squat, my knees wanna turn out, so I'm gonna prime my ankle so that doesn't happen, okay? So what you're doing, you're telling the central nervous system to do something better so that when you get into your workout, it's just way more effective.

And I have a great example of how people have used the, because it's real, priming's real, this is how the central nervous system works. I have an example of how people have used priming to sell products. Do you guys remember, I don't know how long ago, how long ago was it where they were sending those bracelets and they were showing baseball players,

or I'm an athlete, or whatever it was. Oh, the copper ones and stuff? I don't know if it was copper, but it had like this energy flow. It had like this little thing in it that's like, this balances out the energy. Yeah, so it's a move energy. Yes, do you guys remember that?

Yeah. And there were some pro baseball players that they were slinging those. It was complete crap. It was complete, there's nothing, it's okay. However, when you would go to the mall, there would be all these, you would see these little booths selling these bracelets, and they'd have a picture

of the pro baseball player, whoever it was, and then they would have you do a test to prove how effective the bracelet was, and this is what they would do. They'd have you stand on one foot, you would stick an arm out, they'd push down on your arm, and you would tip over. Then they'd say, now put on this bracelet.

You'd put it on, you'd stand up, they'd push your arm down, and you would be remarkably more stable. And they'd be like, look now put on this bracelet. You'd put it on, you'd stand up, they'd push your arm down, and you would be remarkably more stable. And they'd be like, look, it's the bracelet. And you would believe it because you're like, dude, he just pushed me five seconds ago and I fell over. The second time, I felt far more stable.

It gotta be the bracelet. No, what he did was he primed you. Woke up the first time. He primed you with the first one. Your body knew what to do now. Oh, I gotta maintain my balance. Try it a second time, much better. But they use this as a way to sell them fire off your stabilizers Now what's the second time what's funny is they did that to me?

So this was a long time ago So I think was 15 years must have been 10 15 years ago when these were being sold I went to the mall and I knew it was baloney And so I had the guy explain it to me and then he did the test on me and he goes Did you see that second time like yeah, cuz you tried the first time. What do you mean? I said my central nervous system now knows what you should see the look on his face Yeah, the movie he knew the move would have been like this after he did it on your arm good No, no, no, no with a bracelet on my left arm. Yeah

Put it on me now the first time But that's an example of how priming works is that your CNS figures out what it needs to do and so you can guide it with proper priming. So you were kind of explaining that in your video and why you were doing it because you were hitting shoulders. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anytime I do shoulder and chest stuff, it's really especially important there

because you think of all the areas that I've had to work on for just proper alignment, better mobility, the upper cross syndrome type of deal where the shoulders are rounded forward, I have the fore, I mean you could see it glaring in that video, like it definitely, like looking at it like, oh, I mean one of the best parts about this getting documented in video.

People are gonna see improvements across the board. Yeah. They're gonna see that too. Yeah, yeah, so it'll be good to show that, right, to show the people as we go through this I think that's the part too I just want to I'm like trying to communicate that as I go through like no by no means am I trying to Come off like I'm in a perfect position. There's a lot of stuff that I got to wear

I'm gonna get an injury now and I've got you know posture stuff that I got to deal with and I think this is an area where I just We we over simplify that and we overcomplicate the lifting part. It's like, man, I haven't really been doing anything. So making sure I touch the weights and lift some weights is going to send a signal to build muscle. Working on all my posture stuff to improve my movement is only going to also benefit me muscle-wise. And then really comes down to making good food choices and hitting your target. That's been the biggest one right now for me that I'm like really trying to hammer home to people is I am actively going after protein right now. And I am day in and day out missing. I mean like with intent trying

to get to 200 grams and it is hard. It is hard. It's like there's days I'll have two protein shake meals still hard to get 200. So I just think that so many people that don't track, don't realize how they miss their protein intake and everybody thinks they eat so much and it's like, yeah, show me a month of your eating tracking and show me that you crush protein every single like I'm not saying like I haven't had a day where You crush it like sure but to consider like all it takes for me is Getting high behind on breakfast if I don't get up and set the day with intent of I'm gonna go right now Go get 30 to 50 grams of protein before it turns 9 o'clock

I'm gonna be behind all day long and it's gonna be really tough to catch up if I if I don't do you Do you four or 50 gram meals that we're trying meals are trying to do yeah you know I'm reminded again to on that's kind of satiating why I like why I like eating small meals so many times a day it's just easier for me it's like it's an easier strategy for me than and then expecting I'm gonna get it all in one one big meal or bulk so I'm back to eating like five five meals day. So I'm right around five right now. Okay. So, and they range, like some of them are, I mean, I have some- So it's 40 grams of protein each basically.

Yeah, average. But like, you know, my go-to late night snack right now is the two triple zero, O'Kios or whatever that brand is, Greek yogurts. Oh, using the creamy? I got one. So, oh yeah. I bought one. Now, have you done it right yet? Have you done it right yet? I think so. Okay. I think so. We did. I mean you'll know. We did coconut milk and protein powder. And I did it one the one in the can because I wanted some fat in it right? Yeah. And I froze it and then we you know put it in there and turn on which I it

must mix in air or something. It's wild, right? It doesn't make sense. It's like, how is this possible if this is just milk and protein powder? And it turned into, are you free? I'm so mad that I haven't been able to get a partnership. So for the audience. We're not even getting paid for this. I know, just so the audience knows,

I've been working diligently on the backend, trying to get through to them to work a partnership out for literally six months now, because that's about how long I've had it. I it blew my mind when I first started using it. It's got to be it's the way that it blends it is it it mixes air or something in there whips it up to create the texture because that's what it is ice cream is all about texture so if you got protein shake in there you know with with milk or whatever so there's a little bit of fat and then you whip it the right way so it's's ice cream.

I'm gonna have to mess with that. Yeah, because we were actually talking about getting one of those old cranks and doing old school vanilla with that. Get the ninja cream, bro. Yeah, I'll try that. Tell us what you do. Switch grass off.

It's so, I remember doing that as a kid down in SoCal, one of my great aunts or whatever, had us all making vanilla. Did you really? Yeah, yeah, and it came out really good. It was tasty. But it was old school crank and he did it in this barrel. So there's a bunch of settings on it,

and there's two settings that I'd like to know the difference between gelato and ice cream. Because one is gelato, one is ice cream. What's the difference? Italian mode. Well I know, but what does it do? I think it has to do with the density. The density of the ice cream.

I think there's actually less air in gelato. I'm not sure exactly. Can you find out? I will, I'll give you one. I would love to know. Gelato is also, I mean, even though that has nothing to do with the machine, but gelato, they use honey to sweeten.

They do? Yeah, yeah, that's like one of the secret sauces of gelato is it's used honey. You wouldn't know. Of course. What do you like better, ice cream or gelato? Yes, start a business. I like gelato a lot, actually.

Gelato seems to sit better with me than ice cream. But I mean- Now you've been to Italy. Yeah. You had it there. Yeah, it's not the same. It's not the same. Yeah, yeah, eating it here is not the same. Just like what were we just talking it's yeah, it's not the same. It's not the same. Yeah. Yeah eating it here

It's not the same just like what were we just talking about something else? That's not the same over here is like when you eat the replace, okay Oh, okay, so gelato uses more milk less cream and often doesn't contain eggs Gelato is denser and silkier ice cream is softer and lighter. They also use honey Gelato is churned more slowly than ice cream, which introduces less air. Oh, and gelato is served slightly warmer. You know what's funny?

Every time I say gelato, I say gelato. I want to say it properly, but then I sound like a douche. So I say gelato. It's gelato. So flavor, gelato's denser texture allows it to pack more flavor and it's often made with natural ingredients. So they use honey to sweeten.

I don't know why it's not, it doesn't say that. Cause I've looked that up before. What happened? It's... Huh? I didn't know that. Yeah, scroll back up Doug, cause there was something else I saw about there.

Oh, so ice cream has higher fat content than gelato. Ah, I didn't know that. Yeah, when you go to ice cream places in Italy, it's like a big deal, man. Like over here is for like little kids. Over there it's like gourmet, like the presentation and stuff. You're like, this is wild.

Yeah, yeah. There used to be a place in Willow Glen, I don't know if it's still there or not. Still is. Is it? It's a really good, jolly place. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. There's a little Italy actually down the street.

Do you remember? I don't know, we were actually, we were just getting started together. And when we first started the podcast, when we were down there and I was hanging out with my buddy, my buddy that has all the gambling problems when I was gambling a lot and I was, Hey, I was not going to roll my so my buddy, he's just like, he's a good buddy. My, I love him. But he's like, we all, we all have, we've all had these friends that are just

like not a good influence on you. Like I was gambling way too much and eating I love him. Well, he's a man. But he's like, we all have had this, we've all had these friends that are just like, not a good influence on you. Like I was gambling way too much and eating gelato every day. Then I hung out with him. Wow, those two things you did? Yes, he's an Italian guy, right? So like we would just, and you know,

that was my weak spot, you know what I'm saying? You become fat and broke. Sounds like fun. Yes, dude, yes, dude. That's a bad recipe. Yeah, yeah, for like a year I was doing both, gambling and gelato every day. It was very, very rough time.

Your dopamine was through the roof. Off That sucks dude. That's hilarious. Justin are you the one that put panda dogs up on there? Yeah thank you for bringing that up. You're welcome. I think I know what this is. Yeah okay so yeah this was hilarious because in China they got busted because in the zoo, they just tried to pawn off these pandas and they just spray painted these dogs. Shut your face. Come on, give me a picture. They're like chows.

Come on, give me a picture. They're like chows that they painted their eyes and their ears and everything to have markings of the panda. Oh, look at the panda bear. Yeah, look at it. It look at the panda bear. Yeah Like a panda passed away or they didn't have it I think I don't know what the rationale was they just don't have pandas Yeah, so like they're low on pandas and thought they could just kind of throw that in there Yeah, didn't they do nobody notice they got caught putting people in costumes to pretend to be animals you see that no

But that was another point. Oh my god, bro Well, it kind of passes a little bit like a little bit. They're fluffy and kind of oh my god, bro They got a big old tail. Stop it. This is a real thing. Yeah, can I see a video or is it just pictures? It's pictures. Oh my god pictures. Oh my God. Come on. That's a dog. All the kids that have been fooled. Hey, by when you can easily fool kids, dude, like they're not going to know. Yeah. Kids are, kids are dumb. Yeah. Yeah. It's great. That is so funny.

That's, that's hilarious. I saw, yeah, somebody did that, uh, made their dog look like a lion you hear about that he went for a walk why that's a authorities on him oh really yeah cuz it looked like a lot of people that's a real thing too that's actually like that's Halloween yeah it's like a dog cut like people can ask for their dogs are you guys dress you know you're done with Halloween right your kids are too old now for that yeah egg houses at this exactly yeah they just cause havoc and I mean we'll do do parties and stuff, but that's fine. So you're done dressing up. I'm done.

Oh, that sucks. Yeah, why? It's fun, bro, dressing up for kids with the kids. Uh-oh, with them? Yeah. I mean, we'll see. They may have like, they want to go to a party or go to their friend's house, and they might dress up.

Halloween is such a great holiday when you're a kid. And then you're a teenager, it's kind of cool. Then you're 20s, it's like party your ass off, then it sucks until you have kids, and it's fun again. Yeah. Yeah. And it's a lot of fun again. We're doing the whole family, we're all dressing up like Paw Patrol.

My son and my daughter are super into it. I've got the stuff, you know that, right? I bought them, it's nothing. I know. But I still got the vest there, who are you gonna be? Are you gonna be Ryder or are you gonna be? No, I'm Marshall. Oh, you're actually, oh, you're one of the characters.

For some reason, my son's like, you're gonna be Marshall, I'm like, okay. Yeah, we let Max pick too, so I got lucky Are you gonna be Ryder? No, I'm Marshall. Oh, you're one of the characters. For some reason my son's like, you're gonna be Marshall. We let Max pick too, so I got lucky and he just picked Ryder. That's easy, it's an actual person. Marshall is the firefighter one. You know all the names. Chase, Marshall, yeah. It's just a little far for me.

We're gonna be, like Courtney and I, we're gonna be married with children. Oh my god. Is that a party or something? Al Bundy Or a hangout with Candy Oh my god, that's good Yeah, so It's a good time Yeah, we're gonna be in Disney World for- I can't wait to take Max to Disney World for Halloween

I was not going to take him Have you been to Disney World? No Totally different than Disneyland I know, everyone tells me it's like- It's so much- It's like Disneyland on steroids, right? So well, yeah

It's like three different parks I mean everyone says it's like four Disneyland's in Disney world is like that. So that's what I hear. Epcot Center is crazy. Which I'm sure I'll experience none of that. I think literally we'll probably stay in one little area that he likes. I mean, I wouldn't have like Katrina originally so when she knew we were flying to Florida She's like, okay, I'm gonna see how closer to Disney World and maybe I'm like we're not taking Max to Disney World I'm not taking him now. The kid doesn't even do, what's that little stupid theme

park over here that's like for like. He doesn't like the rides. Yeah, he doesn't like rides. But there's so many things to see. It doesn't matter. I was like, I'm not gonna do it. I said, we're not doing it. And then she goes, Disney World's putting on

a whole Halloween. Oh, he likes Halloween. And I'm like, oh, okay, my son is obsessed with Halloween. Obsessed with Halloween. We read Halloween books all year long. We watch Halloween content. I'm so glad it's finally Halloween so it feels appropriate because- Does he like scary stuff too?

Not really. Okay. So it's like- He likes Halloween but not scary. Yeah, yeah, like skeletons and stuff, but it needs to be cartoonish and playful and funny and like, so there's like certain, but if it's at all,

and I've tried like testing like some of the, like borderline kids, scary stuff. Here's Freddy Krueger. No, I've not done that Justin. And here's Freddy Krueger. No, I've not done that, Justin. I haven't scored in my life. Dress yourself up like Bruce. No, I haven't done that.

I've seen your nightmares. He does. He really loves. And then once everybody starts to decorate, our neighborhood goes all out. So it's cool. My son every night so far, because I guess Halloween's coming up.

And so he's like tell me Papa Tell me a really spooky scary Ghost story and I'm like really you want a scary one. He's like, yeah, tell me a really I'm like, I don't know I think you might get scared. He goes no no make it as scary as you can. I'm like like how scary was a hundred That's like whatever he says. All right. Yeah, I'll give you a scary story So we're in bed and put him in bed And I start telling the story about this cave and it's like dark and somebody goes in with a flashlight flashlight turns off they

hear noises and they see the and he stops me hold on hold on that's too scary so here's what I do I just this is what I do with him whatever I'm telling him I can tell when he gets a little too scared and then here's the back out his little hack for dads you're telling your kid a story. He wants a scary or she wants a scary They need to back out if you had farts or poop. It's an easy. Oh god. That's like easy way out now Here's a problem with that easy way. It's a scared. It's a dark and let me tell you the problem with that hack It's cuz that's a hack that we've oh, yeah, dude Now he laughs every like so max goes when we read at night, he's like,

make it funny daddy. I'm like, this is not even a funny story. It's like a heartwarming, like, you know, like we have this book. It's like, it's called Maximus and it's written, it's like a daddy's love to his son. It's like, nothing's funny about it. It's like very heartfelt. And like, yes, I have to add farts and butt. If I say butt and farts, it's so funny.

And I try and tell them, like, Max, there's books that are appropriate for humor, and then there's books that are, this is heartfelt. Let daddy read it to you like it's supposed to. No, no, no, make it funny. Or allow mommy read it. Mommy will make it, mommy, you make it funny. And then she's gotta do it.

That's it. Yeah, he wants everything to be funny. So it's just like, oh my God. That's just how I back out of scary stuff. So as soon as it gets scary, I go in the fart angle and he laughs and then we're good. And we go to bed. So it's a good time.

I have a shout out. So I was tagged and I actually seen this guy's content before, a listener of Mind Pump, big fan of Mind Pump for a long time. And he was our executive thread, cause I just put in there he's got a podcast and I think his podcast passed us in the rankings yeah so he's doing really doing really well and you know it attributes a lot of his

trainer knowledge from listening to show and so it was a really exciting day for him to do that which is awesome and super Super pumped for him to see that right that temporary wave, dude Yeah, no, I hope I'm a bullma right now. The fact that you're even on the charts. That's a big deal. It's a big ass deal. It's a big ass deal. It's a very big deal.

Oh my god. I'm going to try and give him. He does a good job, too. I'm going to try and give him the number one. But I can't help it. He can't help it. He's so competitive, bro. He can't help himself.

Sorry, I'm a bully. What thread did I send that in? Where's the thread where we're? Did you lose the name? Higher Up Wellness. Higher Up Wellness. Higher Up Wellness, that's his Instagram handle. I believe that's also the name of his podcast.

And I can tell just by his content that he's put out on his Instagram that he's adding tremendous value, great communicator, really understands health and fitness really well. So I imagine his podcast is gonna be really good too. I promised that I'd give it a listen and check it out too. So check him out on Instagram, check out his podcast, Higher Up Wellness.

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Our first caller is Chris from Colorado. What's up, Chris, how can we help you? Hey, gentlemen, I have a question for Adam. However, before I do that, I just had to give a shout out to Sal. I had the opportunity to hear you on another podcast, share your testimony on how you found out that God was real. I really, really appreciated it. And I sure hope that invites others to find out for themselves. So thank you. I hope I get to hear it more often and hear more depth in that story somewhere else. Thank you. I can't hear it anymore. It makes me emotional every time I hear that story. It's too powerful. It's awesome. Adam, I'm curious about

your experience with GLP-1. I've been two weeks into taking five units and I'm having, well, now I'm three weeks. I'm having intense low blood sugar crashes. I also have to force down protein and my recovery scores on whoop have been in the red since I started GLP one. I'm also doing aesthetic at this, like modified aesthetic at the same time. And I'm wondering how you handled that much volume while in a calories deficit? Yeah, no, I'm 193 pounds. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, there's no way I would be doing anything even close. So this is actually Chris, why we wrote Maps GLP one. So we wrote it because this is what I experienced, what you're describing right now, I experienced that and I would tell the guys,

hey, these people need to scale back the volume and intensity so much that I don't see anybody doing this right and so we wrote Maps GLP-1 and most people will open that and go, oh my God, this is like hardly anything. And it's like, yeah, your calories, which it sounds like are so low that you training even remotely close to that intense, all you're potentially going to do is sacrifice muscle.

You're you're not going to build. And really what we're trying to do on a GLP one like that, where someone's trying to really reduce is to to spare muscle. Like, can I just keep what I've worked before while I am in this dramatic cut? So that's, and then I'm not a doctor, so I can't tell you what you should do with your dosage. But since then, I've completely reduced down

to like a micro dose. And so in a micro dose, I have found that I can, it actually cancels out the noise they say, where you have the desires for sugar and all these bad habits. I actually have had no cravings by taking a micro dose, but yet it still leaves room for me to have somewhat of an appetite so I can eat and actually hit my protein targets. And so that would be my concern with you is if you notice blood sugar already, you notice

your recovery is shit. And this is all because such a low calorie with the wit paired with the over application of intensity and volume. And so something needs to adjust whether that's talking to your doctor and him telling you, yeah, go ahead and cut back on the total amount you're doing or really reducing the volume and intensity of the workout. Most likely it's probably both. Are you finding with microdosing, do you know what that dose is in units?

So out of curiosity. Which one are you using Chris? Are you on trisapatite or semaglutide? This semaglutide. Yeah so. And I'm taking 0.25, 0.25. So the units don't, they're not gonna translate cause we don't know what your milligrams are per dose.

Adam was also using trisapatite, so it's gonna be different. So I don't know. Okay. So, and also this is something that you would want to ask your doctor, but if you're eating really low calorie, you're choking food down because you can't, you know, hit your protein, your training should be super, super, super minimal. And that's why you're so over trained. It's like you're, do you have any idea of what your calories and protein is at? I've been forcing 2,500 calories a day.

And then my protein, I'm hitting minimum 150. I weigh 193, but I'm trying to get down to, I'm at 15% body fat and I'm, it's kind of experimenting. I want to see if I can get to 10%. That's my real goal. I've never been there before and I thought this might be a help. No, where did you get your peptide from by the way? Who prescribed you this peptide? My doctor. He, she's been doing my TRT as well. Okay. Yeah, so I, just my opinion, I don't think you're a good candidate for,

to go from 15 to 10, that wouldn't be, like, there's no point in using a GLP-1 at all, unless you have maybe pre-diabetic, that might be another indication. Well, I'll tell you what will happen to you. It is the same thing that happened to me. So I lost 30 pounds, half of that or more was muscle. Because it just I'm not getting enough nutrients. So that's what will happen to you is

you might lose some weight on the scale. But where you're at calorie wise and protein, you're gonna, it's just gonna drop weight on the scale and you're gonna end up losing as much muscle as you are fat. I would, I mean there's other peptides that would be more appropriate for someone like you to go to 15 to 10. Like a growth hormone releasing peptide, Tessa Maryland would probably be more appropriate for someone like you. But yeah, and this was my fear with GLP-1s is that they were gonna get prescribed to people

who were gonna go from healthy to shredded, or, hey, I need to lose a little extra for summer. That's not what it does. It's good for people who have really, you know, bad relationships with food, who have a lot of weight to lose, who've really struggled and been challenged with it. And then this can definitely help in that situation.

But like, and especially what you're feeling now two weeks in, I would tell your doctor, hey, look, I feel like garbage. I can't work out. Cause look, think about it this way. Okay, fine, you go on a GOP-1, you drop your calories, but you can't work out, you're over-trained. What do you think is gonna happen, right?

You think you're gonna go to 10%, probably not. You'll probably end up losing muscle because just feeling like the way that you're expressing. So I would talk to the doctor and say, I just don't feel good. I feel terrible. I'm over trained. My blood sugar's crashing.

Can I go off of this? Maybe try something else that might help me. You know, something else, another peptide, like I said, Testimeralin might be an option. But yeah, you wouldn't be, in my opinion, and I'm not a doctor, but in my opinion, I don't, you know, if you were my client, I would definitely be like, I don't think this is a good idea. And I would actually talk to your doctor and say, okay, what was the rationale behind this?

Chris, are you, you're not a personal trainer, are you? No, I'm not. Yeah, this is total experimentation. And honestly, going back to what Adam was talking about is reducing the noise. If there's one thing from a mental standpoint, I've enjoyed is I'm not thinking about food 24 seven, and maybe there is a dosage where that matters. But honestly, it's a, this is a total curiosity thing more than anything. Well, Chris, let me add, and I'm seeing the effects. Let me add something to what you're saying, okay? You're not thinking about food where you are.

You just told us you're choking down protein and you're forcing yourself to eat 2,500 calories. You're thinking about food just in a different way. So either you're forcing yourself or you're like, okay, maybe I wanna eat that cookie, but I probably shouldn't. So you have to maintain an honest perspective if you're going to be, you know, uh, using things like this, otherwise you're just going to,

you're going to go from one end of the spectrum to the other. And I really see, I don't know what your history is, Chris, if you've struggled with, um, you know, supplements or your relationship to exercise, if you've had any body image issues issues very common, but I Okay, so here's a deal you're going to appreciate the honesty. Yeah, you're going you're going down a dark path of Dysfunctional relationship with food. Yeah, just based off of what you said. Yeah, you don't want to do this I mean just that's enough to fatten I appreciate you being honest because a lot of people would take that push back from Sal and just go into denial. The fact that you're honest enough to tell us

that. And I want to, for the audience, I want everyone to know because some people kind of tuned in and out of like my whole journey with the GLP One and there was a thing going around the internet, people saying that we're promoting GLP. I was like, no, I went in with my, I went in with the idea of I'm gonna do this like a client would, not like a trainer. So I would tell the guys, like, my trainer mind would wanna do what you're doing, which is like, I need to hit this protein. So I'm like for choking food down to hit my protein

because I don't wanna, I didn't wanna do that. I said, I'm gonna go in and I might lose a ton of muscle, but I wanna just eat when I feel hungry and just go see how this thing makes me feel and not completely remove my muscle building trainer science mind and just go in and out how I feel. And what ended up happening was I lost 30 pounds and half of that was probably muscle or more. And so now I was okay with that because I knew that I knew how to get it back. I knew eventually I could get off of it. What I found on it that I did really like was it did cut out all the really hard sugar cravings that I've talked about on the show for many years that I've had addictions to.

And I found that like with this really, really low dough and also what I was noticing with my psoriasis and autoimmune, which also is probably related to the sugar stuff. And so I've really enjoyed that, but I had to go really low on the dosage to be able to want to eat again enough. And I'm already predicting that as much as I'm liking, I liked some of those positive things, as I'm, I don't know if you're watching my docu-series

right now on Mind Pump TV, but I'm documenting my journey. Oh, shit, you got to tune in, Chris. We just dropped it last week. So go to Mind Pump TV on YouTube, and I'm actually communicating a lot of this stuff, so you'll really appreciate it considering what you're going through and what you're thinking about. So go to Mind Pump TV and look up the docuseries.

You'll see it's the last three videos. And so I'm documenting that journey. Now, one of the things I believe is going to happen is I'm going to reach a point where my body needs more calories. And I'm not going to keep taking the GLP and force food. I'm going to just, I know I need to, I'll have to probably drop the GLP one completely. That's what I think is going to potentially happen. But I'm going to bit about this. So definitely tune in and engage with me and I'll talk you through the process. Yeah, I didn't even know that existed.

I sure appreciate that. I appreciate it. It sounds like maybe just something to like, and I'd be curious to see if there's something else like you said that might be more beneficial for me than what I'm doing right now. Yeah, it sounds like that. It's not.

It's good self-warners. You get more fat loss from testimeralin and you wouldn't get these what these negative effects that you're going through and it'd be more appropriate for someone your experience and what you're doing. You actually probably have better recovery from your training versus what you're experiencing now. Okay, that's easy enough. Well, you answered my question. I sure appreciate it. You got it, man. I appreciate that. God bless. Thank you, Chris. Yeah, you too.

Bye now. Really appreciated his honesty. Yeah, this is the fear that I have. It's like, you know, you're at 15, 15% is great body fat for a man. You know what's so crazy to me too, Sal, is like, I got defensive online with some people in regards to that

like saying that we're promoting GLP ones and I thought, you know, this is so funny like how you know, it was really and that was a whole point of me saying like I'm not going to use my trainer brain in this. I like I want to see what is these people are

going through. I 100% I know me I could have forced myself to eat and then showed everybody afterwards, check this out. I took GLP-1s and got and sold all kinds of GLP-1s. That wasn't the point. The point is that millions of people are starting to use this stuff and a lot of them are probably doing it the wrong way or shouldn't be doing it whatsoever. And one of them shed light on that, not promote it. It's so crazy to me.

But I mean, I guess is that because people aren't listening consistently. They don't hear context, not promoted. It's so crazy to me. But I mean, I guess is that because people aren't listening consistently. They don't hear context, the nuance, they just know that you were on it. Right. And they think that it's an assumption. I would, I would think more than anything. And this is the frustrating part is like, we're going to have to deal with this and kind of talk people through this. It's not a good idea for certain people. Like if you're just trying to lose a few percentages of body fat and you're already pretty healthy, this is not a good option for you.

Right, and again, I'm glad this conversation happened because you can see that the path that people can go down. I like that I don't have to think about food. You're thinking about food. Yeah, if you're forcing. You just told us. Yeah, you're forcing down. You're thinking about food.

That's a great point. And this know, what happens when things come out, the abuse potential. And GOP ones have tremendous potential application for some people. Who's the fucking doctor that gave this guy this? That's crazy, bro. Listen, they prescribe the stuff for people. You saw, for a moment, we didn't get to see him very much, but look at it. You could see, bro, he looks, he's in great shape. He's in really good shape. So like, I'm not sure. I didn't see till the end and then I'm like, oh yeah, no, it doesn't make any sense. Yeah, bro.

I mean, shame on you if you're a doctor and this guy walks in. Especially if you work with peptides, I would be like, oh, okay, you want to get a little leaner? I got something better. That's not going to be more appropriate for you. Exactly. Yeah, totally. Our next caller is Caitlin from California.

Hi Caitlin, how you doing? Good, how are you guys? Good. Good, good. What's happening? Well, like everyone, I just want to say thank you so much for having me. This is so awesome. I found you guys through Mari Llewellyn's podcast

like a year ago. Um, and yeah, now I listen all the time. I feel like I'm probably your standard listener. I feel like I'm younger and like a female, but I love the information that you guys give. Thank you. How can we help you? Yeah.

So I have, um, two pretty different questions. The first is around like weird snacking habits and then the second is about like my lifting. So the first one, I'll just read my email question was, how do I break very unhealthy snacking habits in the middle of the day? I feel like regardless of really what I eat prior, so like in the morning or around lunchtime, I feel like I just have this like weird snacking habit where I feel like I have to start snacking at like 2pm and then I keep snacking until like 5pm to the point where like I don't really eat dinner and I just kind of have like this weird eating pattern habits. So yeah, that's my first question. So I used to have this saying, I used to tell my clients, there's no such things as snacks.

Snacks is a made up word. And I'd say there's only complete meals and incomplete meals. And so every time that you choose to eat a quote unquote snack, we're having an incomplete meal. And all I want you to do is have complete meals. And so if you were my client, it sounds like you're hungry and it sounds like your body's trying to tell you it needs food. We just need to break the habit of grabbing chips or crackers or whatever the snack thing is and go like, okay, I need to have a meal prepared for myself at this time. Whether it's something you pre-prepared or you have a place you can grab like healthy food, but it sounds like you're still hungry and I'm assuming you set you something like your weight lifting. I see your

metrics here. I can see your weight and height and so with that, you're in a very healthy, good place and your strength training. Your body's probably telling you it needs more food and your strength training, your body's probably telling you it needs more food, and I would just tell you, listen, feed it, but make a full, eat a complete meal. Have a complete meal at that time and see what happens. Even if you ate just two hours ago, I would be okay with that. What are you reaching for, Caitlin?

Like, what are my goals? No, no, what are you reaching for snack wise? What are the snacks you're grabbing? Oh, probably not the healthiest things. I feel like I got into this just when I started working two years ago. So my work has free snacks. So it's like a lot of chips and maybe some cookies, which is not the best thing. But I feel like I reached for it, like even if, like I'm not hungry, which is like the weird part. So even if I am grabbing like an apple,

I feel like I'm still just like grabbing for some type of food, even if I've eaten like enough calories, I feel like in the beginning of the day. Are you bored at that time of the day? Sometimes, yeah. Now your body weight, your height, you seem like you're, um, your body weight, you're high. You seem like you're pretty lean.

What are your, what are your goals? Um, ideally I would like to lose like five pounds of fat. So I used to be like 118, which I feel like is kind of a happy spot for my body. Um, but recently again, with like starting work and such and all this snacking, I feel like I've gained a little bit. Do you know what your body fat percentage is? Yeah. So I got a DEXA scan in, uh, I want to say like July and it was like 25%.

Okay. Yeah. I think, um, and do you know how many calories you're eating throughout the day in grams of protein? Are you tracking anything? I intermittently track. So I think I'm around like 22 to 2300 calories. Okay. Probably under eating protein.

So you'd be surprised how effective eating a high protein diet is for shutting down a lot of this. So your body weight, I would have you eat 125 or 130 grams of protein a day. And so if you started breakfast, let's say with 40 grams of protein, you'd be surprised how much of a difference that makes. And then when it comes to snacks, if you're finding yourself just like you need, you know, it's just an impulsive behavior, and they're available and they're free, I would bring my own protein. I would bring my own. Adam gave a great recommendation. Bring a meal, bring a small meal and then tell yourself, all right, before I grab a snack, let me eat this small meal that I prepared.

And oftentimes that takes care of it, oftentimes. And then the rest of it is just a practice. But if you're under consuming, especially if your protein isn't really high, typically when I have a client bump their protein, it kills it for them. I'd say 80% of the time tends to fix it. In fact, I was just talking with someone yesterday and they had this exact same issue. In fact, this person was even on a GLP-1 and they said, I reach for food because I'm

stressed. I'm not even hungry. The GLP-1 took care of my hunger, but I'm stressed. I think that's what's happening. We had her bump her protein and she came back and she's like, yeah, it's gone I don't I don't I don't care anymore and you said you already think that that you might miss sometimes I bet that solves it right away. I bet already You bumping your protein is going to make a big difference a segway to that It could be the snack that you allow yourself to have at that time if it's some of that is beef jerky It's a good you since you're lower on protein. You need more of that anyways You have a habit already of kind of doing that maybe change the habit to

beef jerky and then eventually move to an actual meal and then I think that you'll be and there's okay You're in a really healthy place weight wise and even calorie wise and your strength training It might be you're just and're, and you're under eating probably protein. So your body is like, it's wanting that nutrients. So even though you think that you're, you're not hungry, your body is saying, Hey, we need more protein. You're, you're, we're lifting weights and I'm squatting. I'm deadly. I'm doing these movements. I want to build some muscle and you're, and you're going in, you're snacking on carbs. And so let yourself have that

protein. You're also pretty strong. I'm looking ahead at your question. I know you have some other questions, Caitlin, but it says here that you're doing a barbell squat. You weigh 125 pounds. You're squatting 225. Damn.

Yeah. I think your body wants to build muscle. Yes, it does. And I think you need more protein. And you know what'll happen? So if you hit your protein targets, even if your calories go up a little bit, you'll probably get leaner as a result.

So I know, I know we're always told we gotta cut our calories and get leaner, but sometimes you grow into a leaner body fat percentage. That's right. So, I mean, you're really strong. It's very, yeah, that's exceptionally strong. So your body might just be like, give me, I need fuel. I need fuel.

So especially protein. It's wanting to rebuild and- What do you eat for breakfast? So what's okay. So this is at 2 p.m., right? That you're saying this happens around 2 p.m. What's your breakfast and lunch look like typically? Okay, so I've only recently gone back into eating breakfast.

I feel like I was trying to intermittent fast for a long time. And then kind of like what you guys were saying, it was like exacerbating my snacking habit. So I think it's gotten a little bit better now that I've been, I've been making a conscious effort, honestly, after I asked this question, um, so you guys, I kind of was like, Oh, I should probably eat some protein in my breakfast. So I'll eat like, I'm trying to hit 30 grams.

So today I had like four eggs and then, which is a lot. And then for lunch, I'll usually have some sort of salad with like protein, like chicken or tofu and other like vegetables. I bet you're barely, I bet you're barely hitting 100 grams of protein. Yeah, I was just gonna say, if you, I guarantee this right now, now I feel really confident

about this. You go out and you make a goal for yourself. I'm not going to tell you who stops, here's the rule, you're going to have a breakfast and a lunch and by the end of that second meal, you need to have at least 75 grams of protein in by that time. Try and do that and then get back to me on how you feel and if you even want a snack anymore. I mean, if you had a 40 gram protein breakfast, a 40 gram protein lunch.

Well, that's 80, that's even more. I know. That's even more than I want. I'll be happy with 70. I'm aiming for 120 grams a day of protein. You're done, I think you'll be fine. Yeah. I think you'll be okay.

You're missing that. And you're so strong, Kale, I think your body wants it. And what's happening is you're diverting it to the available hyper palatable snacks. What's exciting about this, when I've got a client like you who can lift like you are doing, which is such an exciting place to be, and you're in a healthy place,

you actually just need to kind of reframe, like you have this number of 118 in your head, you're no longer that girl anymore. You're no longer the girl that looks her best at 118. I bet you you look your best around 125, 130. You just, you're ready, your body's ready and what will happen is even if the weight goes up on the scale, you'll look leaner because you'll build muscle. Yeah, 130 pounds at your height at 20% body fat. Let's say you lost 5% body fat. You'd be smaller. Yep.

And you'd be really sculpted. You'd have nice shape and curve. You'd feel strong. Your metabolism would be fast. Um, I wouldn't even weigh myself to be honest with you. I wouldn't even let you weigh yourself. Yeah, that's so interesting. So like, cause we're talking about, I mean, I guess that segues into my next question. Um, yeah, I've always wondered like why I can lift so much. And I, I mean, I'm lifting like as much as these big men in the gym next to me. And I feel like I'm so much smaller, but I don't look like I can lift that much, which

is like the weird part. Cause I, I feel like I can comfortably lift like 225 for like three reps for like a couple sets. Yeah. But I don't, I mean, I tell my friends this and they're like, Whoa, like a couple sets. Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah, but I don't, I mean, I tell my friends this and they're like, whoa, like that's crazy because I mean, I don't look, I feel like I can do that, so.

You probably do. Do people ever tell you, you look like you work out? Like, not really. Okay. Well look. I think you've got great muscle building genetics. Your body's trying to tell you, let's eat, let's build. And, Kaitlyn, let me tell you something. It's really easy to lose muscle and to go down on the scale. I promise you, especially where you're coming from. If you were my client,

I would definitely not let you weigh because I don't want that getting in your head. And I'd be like, here's what we're doing. We're bumping these calories. We're bumping this protein. We're going to get strong we're gonna and like just keep heading that direction and I and I guarantee you were going to feel and look better it's just it's a number you have in your head thinking that 118 is the best version you 118 is no longer the best version and also consider how body fat percentage it's about percentage forget your weight right if you gained five pounds of muscle and you didn't gain a

single pound of body fat you would be lean leaner. So you'd be 130 pounds and leaner because now your body fat is a smaller percentage of your body. I used to have a trainer, female trainer, she was 5'1", 140-something pounds and I would always bring her my office to sell gym memberships because I would tell people to guess her body weight. Nobody could do it. They'd be like, oh she's 100 pounds. But I get on the scale, 140, and they couldn't believe it, but she was lean, she was lean and sculpted, and muscle is dance.

Real dance. Yeah, and so, yeah, I wouldn't worry about that so much. And if you're as strong as you are, were you an athlete when you were in high school? Like, no. I mean, I played sports, but I wasn't like, I was in college. You got some muscle, you got some strength, Jean, are you following any of our programs right now?

Um, I bought anabolic, um, but I felt like I wanted a little bit more legs. So I kind of like built my own four day a week program. Kind of, I feel like taking parts of that muscle mommy, let's send, let's send you muscle mommy. You'll like it. You'll send you, we're going to send you muscle mommy. And then I also want to let you in our private forum too. I'd like to hear your journey.

I think, I mean, you're a client that I would love to train. You've got massive potential to, and get rid of the scale. No scale, no weighing on the scale for a while. Okay, stop the scale and a good starting goal from everything that all this advice and stuff that we're talking about right now, go get that protein. Like that, make that just the main focus is make sure you're consistently always hitting that 120 plus and really make a goal to hit a lot of it early before noon or one.

Because if you do that, I think it'll just take care of the snacking and I think you'll also build muscle and I think you're going to get leaner just by that one piece of advice. Well, that would be crazy. I'm telling you. And don't look at this. It's not crazy. It's predictable. Yes. It's very predictable based off of what I'm reading and seeing. Like you, you're going to do it. You're going to be fine. So does that mean that, um, so I shouldn't train like change most of my, uh, workouts,

like my lifting. So like I said, I've kind of hit, I feel like a max on a lot of lifts. Like I don't really want to go heavier just because of my old- We're gonna take care of that. We're gonna take, that's- No, we're just saying a new program. Yeah, you're gonna follow a program now.

So just, yeah, let the program do what it's supposed to do. We take care of all that inside the program. So you just follow it as it's laid out and focus on being strong when you lift and hit those protein goals we said. I guarantee it's gonna solve all the challenges you're having right now. The scales getting in your head and getting in the way. Yeah, I think it is also. Oh, 100%. It is. So, no, no. And then I'm like, oh no, I already keep eating at 2 p.m. Yeah. Yeah.

Your body wants more. And then we're gonna put you in the private forum too. So, I want you to check in with us like every month or so. Just let us give us a heads up on how the program's going, what you're liking, what you notice. Just give us a heads up. Okay, yeah, that sounds good. This is great. All right, you got it, thank you.

Thanks for calling in. Thank you. That scale, man, messes with people. And you know, once we dug in a little deeper, it was a protein issue. Yeah, 100%. Yeah, you're lifting, you're strong, you're, it's like, your body, look,

you're going through this. You had a low appetite, you did one strength training workout, and the next day, you ate four meals. Right, and I think that it's such a good example because initially, I was only eating two meals a day and thought, oh wow, and the average person, especially somebody who's attached to a scale weight, would freak out at that feeling and go,

oh my God, I can't eat four times a day. I did the opposite. I was like, okay, I'm gonna keep eating. If I was hungry, I ate. I just made it protein-centric, that's it. That was my one rule to myself was I'm not gonna worry about calories. If my body is telling me it wants to eat,

I know that I'm strength training, I'm sending a signal to build muscle, and it's hungry, I'm gonna feed it, and I'm gonna make sure I just feed it worry about calories. If my body is telling me it wants to eat, I know that I'm strength training, I'm sending a signal to build muscle, and it's hungry, I'm gonna feed it. And I'm gonna make sure I just feed it the right, yeah, what it needs. So to me, dude, 225 for three reps? For a little 25 year old five four chick? That's dope.

Yeah, no, she's got massive potential to build a shredded buff physique. She's just gotta get the scale out of her head. Our next caller is Misty from Pennsylvania. Hi, Misty. Hi, Misty. Hello. Hey, guys.

How is everybody? Good. We're good. How can we help you? Good. Excited to get to talk to you guys. So I'll get right to it. I've been taking creatine monohydrate for over a year

now, and just a few weeks into using it, I started noticing some unpleasant GI things happening, but I also noticed the benefits, increased performance with my lifts, faster recovery. So I just kind of been pushing through it the past few months and kind of dealing with it, but I'm also now noticing some other things, just fatigue setting in and just some other things I'm wondering if they are tied to my gut.

And I know you guys talk about how important that is. So my question would be, one, are there alternatives to creatine monohydrate that I could use? And if not, I mean, is it worth continuing to use it, even with the gut issues to reap the benefits of it? Sal, this is actually an example, right? Some people have this issue with creatine. Very small percentage, but some people do. I believe it was our friend, Chris Gatlin is the one who has the creatine that's supposed to address this. It's so, okay. So there's a couple of things you can try. First off, if you try what I'm about to say and you still have gut issues, then don't take creatine. It's not worth the, it's not a good trade off. Okay. But just looking at the data and anecdotally, small frequent doses tends to be a lot better. So if you're taking, how much are you taking and when are you taking it?

Just the one scoop a day. I think it's five grams. So you could try taking, yes, breaking it up into four small servings. So you take a little bit at one time, a little bit another time, a little, take it with food. That usually handles it, okay? Now there's other versions of creatine, and some people say like HCL might help the juries out with that, I don't know.

In my experience it didn't make a difference with the few clients that I had that had gut issues, but the small dosing made a big difference. That made a big, it was a big, bull bolus dose that tended to cause the problem, the big five gram dose. Are you doing powder or are you doing capsules powder? I wonder, I wonder if it makes a difference at all with the capsules. Well for the small doses it would make it easier. You know you could buy in capsule form and instead of taking five grams at a time, you could take one, one and a half grams.

You know, a few times. It would help me, because I had a similar issue. Every meal I take with a meal would probably be even better. That would be it, yeah. So yeah, I'd try that. I'd try actually getting the pill form and then taking it with your meals. And you know, every time you eat a meal,

just have a small dose of it. Or you just take, you know, or again, you have your powder. You would just take a little bit, three or four times a day. So is, so the research on the HCLs and murky, I thought that was solid stuff. No. I mean- Chris is a pretty smart guy.

Yeah. There's just 99% of all the research on creatines on monohydrate. No, I know. Okay. When you compare what's the best, I know that. I know that that's what the research is. And there's nothing that's technically better, but I thought I have read that people that actually, the small percentage of people that have issues with

the gut that tends to solve. That's the advertising pitch, but there's nothing. Yeah, I can't point to any good data on that. And anecdotally, I haven't seen a difference in the people that I've worked with, but you'll hear people say it did help them. You could try it, but from some of the data that I've seen, some of the people I've talked to and worked with,

small, tiny dose, because creatine's in food, right? So you don't have an intolerance to creatine. If you eat meat, you're getting some of it. You're just not getting five grams of it. Five grams of creatine is like two pounds of meat, right? So really small doses throughout the day might handle it for you. Awesome.

Say I try that, and to your point you mentioned earlier, if I'm still having those gut issues, then I can get rid of it completely. Part two. Well, here's a second part to it, okay? Lactobacillus bacteria may benefit people with gut issues who take creatine. There is some loose data that shows that taking lactobacillus, which is one of the most common

probiotics, almost every probiotic will have a lactobacillus in there. So you could also try that. You could also do that and add that to it. Now if you do that, you do the micro small doses, you take the lactobacillus and you still have gut issues, yeah just toss it out. It's not worth it. Not worth it at all. I mean as great asine is, and we all talk about the positive things, not at wrecking the gut. The gut is far more important in the health of that. You're not gonna gain any benefit if it messes your gut up, for sure.

I see, okay, that's what I was concerned about. I'd love to hear feedback, though, from you from this. And Misty, when you take it, when you notice the gut issue, is it right after? I mean, I take it first thing in the morning. I actually just throw up my coffee and then I would say maybe two, three hours later. It's like the bloating sets in and then some other, you know, unflattering situations my husband doesn't appreciate. Yeah, I would try the capsules and doing it with food.

So if like, let's say a dose for the day for five milligrams calls for like six pills, you would do it two pills every meal and try that. Yep, yep. And then again, lactobacillus is the most common, it's the most common probiotic supplement. And again, in my experience, that's like. And seed has that.

Seed's the best. So if you're gonna do seed. It was almost a guaranteed fix. Now, off the top of my head, I can only think of one person that we had to have stop taking Creighton. When I think about the hundreds of people I've worked with with Creighton. Okay, that's awesome.

I mean, I have to ask any certain capsule you recommend, because I have to be honest, I didn't even know it was available in a capsule form. No, you want pure CreaT monohydrate. If you really want to take it to the next level, look at the sourcing. CreaPure is a source. It's a company that other companies

will get their CreaT from. Otherwise, you could look for third party testing. But for the most part, if it's a reputable brand, you're gonna be okay you're gonna be taking a good you know the good stuff. Awesome. Okay. Are you Misty are you following any of our programs right now? I have ran MAPS, Anabolic and Anabolic Advanced. Oh awesome. How does work for you? I loved it. I also work with a personal trainer who listens. Well, he's just the same.

So, yeah. Oh, you're set then. Beautiful. Yeah, right on. Thank you. All right, Misty. Thank you so much, guys. You got it.

Yeah, that's so. I love when we have clients or people that are like, yeah, we have trainers. It's the ultimate combo right there. Yeah, it's somebody who listens and trains. But yeah, for anybody listening who's tried creatine and noticed that they have gut issues from it, which is not a lot of people.

Very small percentage. Small doses. Tiny. Small doses usually handles it. So I know that our friend Chris Gatlin does sell a creatine and I know that's the pitch is that it's for people that have a hard time with it, digesting it or processing it in their gut or what like that. But so there's not, the science is murky, huh?

Not really. Yeah, I mean, you'll hear some anecdotes, but not really. But the smaller doses seems to be the trick. That seems to be what helps people. Our next caller is Clarissa from Texas. Hi, Clarissa. How can we help you? This is awesome.

Thank you so much for having me. You got it. Yeah, my big sister introduced me to y'all last summer and I've been hooked ever since y'all are just so kind, patient, passionate. And I really love that y'all talk not only about fitness, but all the important things in life like faith, family, marriage, conspiracy theories, you know, all the good stuff. Awesome. I will say I usually listen to mind pump when I'm working out, but I learned my lesson because I have to be careful now.

One time I was benching while listening and Justin, I almost dropped the bar on my face when you told the story about going to battle the bands after your parents' anniversary party. I was like, oh man. I'm glad I didn't hurt you there. That's not good. Yeah. What you got for us?

What you got for us? All right. I have a main question and then a fun little side question just if we have time. So for my main question, context is I'm 29 years old, five foot one, played sports growing up and I work a desk job, but I get about seven to 12,000 steps a day and I teach one group fitness class each week.

So I started weightlifting about seven years ago when my husband and I first started dating and just fell in love with lifting. So I got the newbie gains for sure, but then I hit a plateau and about two years ago I learned about reverse dieting and started to do that. So over the course of about four months, I went from 1700 calories up to 2300 calories per day and actually lost a few pounds down to 122 and I got leaner and stronger and like I felt like I was

in my muscle mommy era and I loved it but then the time came to cut and just to be honest I got a little nervous about restriction so I just didn't and I lost discipline in tracking macros so I just decided okay I'll eat clean and lift heavy to get strong so I went from a bodybuilding kind of workout to more of a power lifting kind of workout and prioritized squats, deadlifts, bench press, occasionally throwing in bulking arms, split squats or pull ups and dips just for fun. So I definitely got stronger, but again, I'm 5'1", so there's really only so many places muscle can go.

And it felt like I was no longer a muscle mommy, but more like, I don't know, a bulky Betty or something. So in a year, I did trade my gut. I'm going to steal that. I'm going to steal that. Yes, feel free to. But I mean, in a year, I gained 20 pounds, and I got up to 144, and I gained two inches in my waist and five inches

in my hips and glutes. So my original question was going to be about what to do at that point to lean out while keeping muscle. But I just got tired of feeling too bulky for my frame, so I bit the bullet, bought the RGB bundle, love it, started a cut at the beginning of August and I wasn't tracking consistently before that but I think I was around 2100 calories based on like a couple days of tracking so I cut down to 1700 calories with 140 grams of protein a day and I've been there consistently for

about six weeks and so I've lost nine pounds, one inch of the waist, two inches in the hips and I just finished anabolic this weekend. So good, I loved it. And so at the beginning of the anabolic, I did PR with a 135 bench and a 205 squat but I will say like even though my cut has made me feel like I'm back at home in my body, for the last couple weeks I have felt myself feeling weaker in the gym and getting hungrier. So my question is, did I do the right thing going into a cut and what do I do from here with nutrition and workouts?

Because I don't want to stay in a cut for too long, but I'm also nervous about gaining all the weight back. And so I don't know if I should just stick with the RGB plan and go straight into performance because my current goal is to continue leaning out While maintaining strength and improving athleticism and mobility my husband and I want to start a family soon So I just want to get as strong as possible for the rest of the year. So this is Such a great question. You absolutely did so many things the right way and you're in a great place And your body's telling you it's time

to increase calories again. And just remind yourself this, that when you did put on the bulky, betty weight, it was because you weren't, you were eating whatever, right? You were eating in a surplus and probably not making good choices. If you eat in a surplus but make good choices now, combined with your programming, which you got and going into performance, great program to do that to address all the Mobility stuff you're saying yours. You're set up really nice right now. You did a great job everything you Said and how you but yeah, I would it's time to get out of that cut

Your your body wants more calories and it wants more pro It wants to be fed right now and it's ready for it. You've used it to lean you out you're probably kind of slowing down that process and kind of plateaued a tiny bit and you're about to switch programs so it's a beautiful time to start to slowly increase the calories and I think you're gonna see great results from that. You don't have to you can be very very subtle with it you know if you're at 17 now, 1900 calories, you could stay at 1900 calories for a good four weeks and the scale probably won't move,

but you'll get stronger. So that's what I would do. But yeah, you gotta get out of it. It's been six weeks now cut. You've already lost nine pounds of body fat. A short reverse out would be a good idea. And then you can go back into the cut if you wanted to. But let's get you out of it for a bit.

Let your body. Don't be afraid to listen to your body too in terms of eating. I agree with Sal 1900 calories is a perfect place to get up to but what you might notice is It's been wanting that and you go to a new program especially like performance. It's so unique compared to anabolic You're gonna stimulate some new growth, right? You're gonna challenge the body in a way. It's never been challenged

You might find your appetite starting to increase feed feed it, but give it good choices. You know what I'm saying? Use the advice you've probably heard me say, don't eat like an asshole, okay? But feed your body when it's telling you and just make it protein-centric and make a good choice because there's a very good chance now that you've leaned all the way out like this, you get back in your rhythm and you go to a new program and reverse diet, you might feel that appetite really start to ramp up. And instead of trying to white knuckle it and stay low, low, just to a hundred calories up, like feed it, but feed it good. Otherwise what will happen, you'll be white knuckling it. And then the urge is to like binge or to overeat or to snack or do those things will happen. Like

let that body tell you that, Hey, it needs some more calories, it needs more food, and just make good choices. I think you'll see a really nice reverse diet and build some muscle and lean out. Okay. I think I was confused because during my bulky Betty era, I also learned how to make sourdough. We were just really living the dream. I was like, oh, it's healthy. I'm eating sourdough and steak and all of that. But maybe I was just eating more like a caveman

and not really balancing it all out. So, okay. Okay, so reverse diet like for a month, you said, maybe try that and then cut, just listen. Yeah, I mean, I would keep, I mean, month sounds like a good number, but I would also go off of how I'm feeling and looking. Your body may just wanna be in the 2,300 plus calorie range keep, I mean, month sounds like a good number, but I would also go off of how I'm feeling and looking.

Your body may just want to be in the 2300 plus calorie range and you might just see yourself continually like Sal's saying, like a good place to probably land and you don't necessarily need to go in a cut to cut. Meaning you could reverse diet and find yourself eating 23, 2400 calories and not really gaining or losing but feeling good. I might just hover you there. If you find that, if you find that you kind of reach the look you're looking for and you're satisfied calories, we don't always have to be in this perpetual.

And 1900 calories might even be just maintenance. So if you reverse to 1900, it's a nice, short, small bump. You might just wanna stay there and let your body just kind of lean out as you get a little stronger. That's true. Okay, awesome. You don't have to keep cutting, you know what I mean?

You don't have to keep trying to reverse out. You might just wanna stay there. Are you in our forum yet? No. Okay, I'll have Doug put you in our private forum and then we'll just do this with you. So as you go through this process, take the advice we just gave you,

check in with us at the end of the month. So let us know how things are going on the month and just say, let us get us updated and then we can help you tweak it as you go through it. But you're in a really good place and you made a lot of really good decisions. Okay, awesome. Thank you so much. Sometimes I just need that reassurance to know what to do next. So thank you.

Do we have time for a quick fun question? Sure. Yeah. Okay, awesome. So I go to a small local gym, has a lot of awesome equipment and I just want to make sure I'm not sleeping on any of it. So we've got pendulum squat, hack squat, belt squat, Nordic curl, GHD machine, assault bikes and assault treadmills, some of those. So I use some of those but is there

anything that y'all are like, oh you should definitely use that if you have access to it? Belt squat, if you're not using the belt squat. GHD machine. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, that you're gonna feel translate to all kinds of lifts. I mean, everything you mentioned was awesome. I mean, they're all great. Everything you mentioned was great. Piece of equipment.

Do they have a reverse hyper? Reverse hyper. Yes, yeah. Oh, reverse hyper would be amazing. Yeah, that's a really good one. I love that machine. Okay. Yeah.

Awesome, yeah, I love the reverse hyper. The Nordic crawl woke up my hamstrings and suddenly they boomed into existence. Okay. Yeah. Awesome. Yeah, I love the reverse hyper. The Nordic crawl like woke up my hamstrings and suddenly like they boomed into existence. That's brutal. Yeah, those are rough. But okay, awesome. Thank y'all. Y'all are the best.

Thank you so much just for your expertise, your authenticity and everything. Also, I'm a huge fan of Jordan Peterson. So I just couldn't even believe that y'all got to have him on this show. It was definitely one of my favorite episodes. So y'all are awesome. Thank you so much. Thank you. Awesome. Thank you. So, y'all are awesome, thank you so much.

Thank you. Thank you. Awesome, thank you. Yeah, she's doing a good job. She's awesome. Yeah, she's doing a great job. Great job. Great, great.

On track, doing everything good. I mean, when you're in a deficit and you start to hit a hard plateau, I mean, the good, easy, classic plateau buster, all things considered is to come out of it. Come out of it with a small bump in calories, and that usually does a trick. And a change of plan is my favorite.

Yeah, I was gonna say, that's like my favorite. That is my favorite recipe right there. It's like, hey, I'm at a hard plateau, cool. Program change, calorie surplus, let's go. That's it, perfect. And normally the body responds really well. Look, if you like the show, come find us on Instagram. Justin is at Mind Pump.

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