Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 2438: The 6 Best High Protein Inexpensive Foods You Can Get Anywhere (Listener Coaching)

Episode Date: October 4, 2024

In this episode of Quah (Q & A), Sal, Adam & Justin answer four Pump Head questions drawn from last Sunday’s Quah post on the @mindpumpmedia Instagram page.  Mind Pump Fit Tip: The 6 best high-protein inexpensive foods you can get anywhere (even Walmart)!  (1:49) Fun activities with your kids. (15:07) Kids say the darndest things. (18:21) Physical vs. emotional injuries. (21:29) Ninja CREAMi, please sponsor us! (32:35) The role texture plays in palatability. (34:09) How will tech impact your health? (38:10) The big lesson from the pandemic. (49:37) Check out the ‘mash-ups’ at Mind Pump Show on YouTube. (53:25) Shout out to Eroding Weakness on Instagram! (55:03) #Quah question #1 – Do I need to count calories? Sometimes I feel like I’m forcing myself to eat just to hit those numbers. Sometimes I hit my calories without effort. (56:11) #Quah question #2 – Can you explain how different rep ranges can change your physique? (1:00:01) #Quah question #3 – What is the best approach to tackle a 1-week family holiday where you know you’ll be eating freely and in abundance? Training at the resort is easy, just curious about what sort of training would be best. (1:03:16) #Quah question #4 – Please explain the basics of gym etiquette, I don’t know what I’m doing. Sincerely - I’m a home gym person intimidated by going to the gym. (1:07:30) Related Links/Products Mentioned Visit Butcher Box for this month’s exclusive Mind Pump offer!  ** Choose which high-quality, lean protein you’ll get for free in every order for a year—wild-caught salmon, organic chicken breasts, or grass-fed ground beef. Plus, get $20 off your first order with our code. That’s up to $404 in savings for the year! ** Visit Paleovalley for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! ** Discount is now automatically applied at checkout 15% off your first order! ** October Promotion: MAPS Muscle Mommy 50% off! ** Code OCTOBER50 at checkout ** Mind Pump #1605: How to Get Jacked on a Budget Watch Masters of the Air – Show – Apple TV+ Ninja NC301 CREAMi Ice Cream Maker, for Gelato, Mix-ins, Milkshakes, Sorbet, Smoothie Bowls & More, 7 One-Touch Programs, with (2) Pint Containers & Lids, Compact Size, Perfect for Kids, Silver Highly processed foods can be considered addictive substances based on established scientific criteria - Gearhardt - 2023 - Addiction - Wiley Online Library CA DMV Wallet & mDL Pilot - California DMV Neko Health, the body-scanning AI health startup from Spotify’s Daniel Ek, opens in London Promising new AI can detect early signs of lung cancer that doctors can't see Age-stratified infection fatality rate of COVID-19 in the non-elderly population Mind Pump Show – YouTube Visit MASSZYMES by biOptimizers for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Promo code MINDPUMP10 at checkout** Mind Pump #1907: Nine Ways to Get Lean Without Counting Calories Mind Pump #1827: The 3 Best Rep Ranges to Build Muscle & Burn Fat Mind Pump #1080: 21 Commandments of Gym Etiquette Mind Pump # 1862: How NOT to Be an Idiot in the Gym Mind Pump # 2045: Overcoming Your Fear of Going to the Gym Mind Pump Podcast – YouTube Mind Pump Free Resources People Mentioned Don Cardona (@dc.fit1) Instagram Christopher Chamberlin (@erodingweakness) Instagram Stan “Rhino” Efferding (@stanefferding) Instagram  

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Those foods right there, high protein, low calorie, inexpensive, they're great for building muscle, getting lean, and getting you to your fitness goals. And of course, best of all, you can find them anywhere, including Walmart. I've always thought this argument was silly. That eating healthy was expensive? And I've never, it's never resonated with me because anytime I'm eating out, that's when my bills go up. That's why people think eating healthy is expensive. Because they think of eating.

Yeah, they think of restaurants. Yes, they think of healthy restaurants, the ones that are crunchy healthy, versus like unhealthy restaurants like McDonald's or Burger King versus that boutique restaurant down the street that's supposed to be healthy. Yeah, yeah, farm razor, farm to tables. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that is expensive,

but when you go grocery shopping for your food, it's far, and we're not even counting, by the way, the savings in healthcare costs, because you're not gonna be healthier. We're not counting the savings in productivity because you're gonna call in sick less to work, you're gonna work, be more productive, you're probably gonna earn more money.

Like all the things that happen when you're healthy actually save you money. We're not even counting that. We're just looking at the cost of the food. When you buy these things in bulk, by the way, I didn't throw vegetables or starches in there, but you buy a bag of rice, potatoes, frozen vegetables, all the things that I said in there,

you've got everything you need and it's not just inexpensive. It's the least expensive. Well, that's the easy stuff to get. I mean, protein is, it's not as simple in terms of it. Like I could just go down the street. I'm like, you have to really be intentional and targeted. This is what these types of foods is what kept me sane when I was in college as a starving student, cause like all my options were always just really heavy car based in the cafeteria and it just

got exhaustive. And so to be able to have a little grill in my little dorm room and then get turkey and make patties and deal with stuff and buy this meat in bulk was game changer. I just did this yesterday, or no, Sunday. Today's Tuesday. So I did it. Which was your prep? Yeah, six pounds of ground beef.

And I had to fill up my rice cooker twice to enough bulk rice, so I don't know how many, I think I had to do like 12 cups of rice or something like that is what it ended up being. And ground beef and all I threw in there was I seasoned it with Montreal steak seasoning. I think it's great on ground beef like that. And I threw some onions and mushrooms in there just to give it a little more flavor and texture. And then I added to white rice, one cup of white rice. I mean, and now I've got a breakfast and lunch for the entire week. And if you're not somebody who can just eat

rice and meat for breakfast, you can crack two eggs on it and boost the protein if you like. And now it's like a breakfast bowl. Oh, I mean, there was a period that when I first opened my own personal training studio, there was a period where I was just trying to be very conservative with my money. It was a new business.

I had just had my first kid, and I wanted to be very smart with my money. It was a new business. I had just had my first kid, and I wanted to be very smart about my money. And so I ate a lot of ground beef, rice, and frozen vegetables. I would make bowls with it, and it's what I ate most of the time. And it's actually simultaneously great muscle building food.

It's great getting lean food. It's great food also, but it's also very inexpensive. So this whole argument about it being expensive is so wrong and it's damaging. It's actually damaging to believe this. The truth is, just on a dollar for dollar basis, it's far less expensive. And then on top of it, like I said,

we're not even counting all the other cost savings that happen from just being healthy. I mean, if you look at the data, and by the way, the reason why I know this data is because when I manage gyms, we used to do, we would sell memberships to typical consumers, you know, person walking in or person that lives in the neighborhood or whatever, but we'd also sell what were called corporate memberships. And corporate memberships were where you would go to these large organizations, these companies, and the company would pay a fee to cover the enrollment costs of X amount of employees. Sometimes if you did a real good job, the company would cover the entire cost.

So you'd go to a company like Apple and they'd say, yeah, we'll buy memberships for anybody who wants to come work out at your gym. And they'd give us a big check and it was a big deal. And so one of the ways that we would sell these memberships is we had to present them with data. Because for a company to do this, A, it has to attract more employees, and B, there has to be some kind of cost benefit.

Otherwise, it's like, okay, why are we offering this perk? Is it gonna give us something in return? And the truth is, the gym memberships did all of the above. Not only did employees like it, because now they have a gym they can work out at, so it's a cool perk, it also saved the money to the tune of, for every dollar that a company invested in fitness and health for their employees,

it would get back two dollars in return. That return came in the form of reduced insurance costs, so people get sick less, they're healthier, cost the company less money to cover them under insurance. They also called in sick less. So people weren't absent as often because they were fit and healthy or more fit and more healthy. And they were also more productive. So it's like every dollar you spend, you get $2 in savings as a company. And this is real data.

We were real good at figuring this out. I worked for a very large fitness organization that figured this out. And this was a selling point. So it's less expensive to eat healthy any way you slice it. So that whole thought process, that excuse is just, it's so false. It's not even close to the truth. It's the. It's actually even even more convenient than people make it sound too. Okay so Sunday I absolutely did dedicate a couple hours of my day to prepping but now that it's prepped. That's it the whole week done. It's so easy it's all

set up and I don't overthink the the like dressing it up process You know like literally I could I have a giant iron skillet So I could throw like all six pounds in there at one time and like this cooked up all six pounds at one time And just threw the mushrooms and onions inside there and sprinkled all the seasoning on it and just boom that whole thing is done And the rice cooker everybody knows how easy a rice cooker is you just throw it in the cooker walk away And it's done in like 20 minutes. Like that's it. And then like portioning out.

That's was the- By the way, I included in here some options that required no prep on purpose or minimal prep. So you don't have to cook tuna fish. It's done. You open the can, you throw it in a bowl. You can add whatever you want to it. You don't cook Greek yogurt or cottage cheese.

Those are all there. they're ready to go. In fact, if you can have dairy, cottage cheese is an incredible bodybuilding food. It's great, it's got high quality protein, both casein and whey, it's high in whey protein. You can get very low calorie cottage cheese or full fat if you want a little bit more of that texture, little bit more calories.

And you could buy it, a 50 gram protein serving of cottage cheese, throw some fruit in it, and boom, you've got yourself, your great macro breakdown, and it required zero prep. Go to any grocery store. You buy a peach, you buy your cottage cheese, slice it up, throw it in there, you're done. You know, and I gave those options on purpose

because either argument is always, well, I don't have time, I don't have the time to, you know, get the food ready. Yeah't have time, I don't have the time to get the food ready. Yeah, I mean, I find that it saves time, same as money for me every time I do it. Every time I do it, I'm always like, man, I just, and I always have that excuse of, oh, I'm so busy, I might do this, and it's just like,

if I just make one day of the week, for me, Sundays tend to be the easiest because getting ready to set the week up, or typically home Sunday afternoon or evening that I carve away a couple hours that I prep these meals out for the week. Then you're, and to me I think that having it there and ready is what makes it easier to make the right decision.

It's always challenging when you have a busy life, you have family, kids, and you're trying to make every meal in a healthy choice that day. Then and there. Yeah, I mean, and maybe you get a couple wins in a row like that, but sooner or later, life happens and you get busy and you get behind and you skip a meal and now you're trying to play catch up.

Just having something already prepared in the refrigerator makes things so much easier, you know? Oh yeah, cooking in bulk is everything. I was trying to think of the type of cooker, it shows you how much I cook. I was like thinking grill, and that's like all I know. The one that's like you put it in, and then you leave it for like all day,

and it just cooks it really slow. Oh, crock pot. Yeah, so like anytime Courtney leaves or like I'm trying to like, you know, be ahead of, you know, prep for the week and all that stuff, like we'll just put like a big old pork butt in there and like, you know, then you can just make all kinds of stuff out of that and add some rice.

But it's just like if you do that ahead of time and you can just pick at that throughout the week, so much easier. In my studio, when I had my personal training studio? I had either I would prep or if I was real lazy, you know what I had in the back I had a foreman grill. Yeah, it was easy. I had a girl. That was my go-to and call I had ground beef in that we had a little fridge, you know I'd pull it out throw it in there while you know my my finish up with the client to walk back throw it in come

Back down with my client go back. it's finished and I eat it real fast before I train the next class super easy I lived off of that for a long time oh yeah the crock pot is Justin one of my favorite go-to's we haven't cracked into that on this prep for me but that's always something because I can fit like three four pounds of chicken thighs in there and you get chicken thighs in there and it just falls apart and you get like like shredded chicken and then I make bowls. I go shredded chicken over rice with a little bit of green salsa and cheese.

Now what was it from Butcher Box that you were using the crock pot that you were like, you guys gotta try it. Was it ribs? No, no, no, no, not ribs. For the crock pot? No, no, no. No, no, that was the shoulder, whoever was doing the shoulder in there.

Oh. That's one of these two guys. That wasn't me. I get the chicken thighs from there. And you put the chicken. Oh yeah, the chicken in the crock pot is amazing because it makes it so moist. You literally just pulls apart. All their chicken is pasture raised.

All of the butcher box chicken is, yeah. So you get just a better nutrient profile. And I noticed the same thing with grass-fed meat. If I eat a lot of pasture-raised chicken, grass-fed meat, heritage pork, I seem to feel better than when I switched, I'm okay with meat no matter what. It's the balanced chicken, and I was kinda looking at that because they don't have like the enormous breasts

that are like totally like hormone injected and like antibiotics and all that. But I was actually, I was watching a video, I was asking Adam about this, because he used to work, you know, with the farm and whatnot. And I saw this video of this chicken coop that had wheels on it.

And so what they did was they were able to rotate through the pasture, like it just slowly moved. So the bottom's open? So the bottom's open, and the chickens can freely like, you know, pick for insects and they can eat grass and all that kind of stuff. And then yeah, and then that way when they shit

and the fertilizer, like it distributes that evenly throughout the pasture. And I was like, that's brilliant. So when I was in high school, I was one of the only five organic dairies in all of California. And so the guy I worked for was. By the way, was that just coincidence

or did you look for one? Oh, I didn't even know what organic was. I learned what organic was in high school. Remember, that wasn't a popular thing back when we were kids. What a foretelling, by the way. How did you even know you were gonna be in the fitness industry?

Oh, I had no idea. No idea, nor did I even have any, I learned from him what organic was. Like I didn't know what an organic dairy, organic farm, none of that, what that even meant. Like it was working there that I learned all this stuff. And so he was always forward thinking on like, I feel really bad because that dairy ended up going out of business.

I really think a lot of it was he was just too far ahead of his time. Because the organic movement didn't come until like 10 years later after that. But he was also, so he used to go to New Zealand. New Zealand in the dairy industry and the farming industry is like ahead of us in a lot of ways. Just the way they structure their cattle farms, the way they do their chickens. That's what I've read.

Yeah, we still get a lot of cattle from there. And so I remember we built this thing, and I remember, what are we doing? So he bought this cheap trailer. It was just a regular old car trailer or whatever. And we built wood frames on it, built a house on it. And it was a chicken coop. And then the chicken coop had a little door that came down.

It was a little ramp for them to go in and out. And then we had the, because it was a trailer, it just hits right on the quad. And then every day I would come into work, I'd have to move it about 50 yards. Wow. And it allows the chickens to come out. And they graze on all the bugs and everything

like that that's in there. And they pick through all that. They also poop all over that. So it doubles as fertilizer for the grass for the cows that come back and graze on it because we also had the organ terrier. So smart. And so yeah, no, we used to do all that. I didn't know what the hell we're doing. I don't know why or what the big deal is, but I just remember doing it back then. And so it's interesting to hear that Butcher Box is doing that with the chickens. Dude, it's so funny we're talking about this. I have found this area where I can really connect with my three and a half year old. He seems to be really into science and learning, which is great

because as a dad, you really want to connect with your kids. Sometimes they just are not into things that you're into, so you have to really make yourself be into what they're into so you can connect to them. Luckily, I'm blessed, he's really into science. The way I figured this out is I was hanging out with him and we're talking. Off the top, I'm always trying to think of things to spark conversation and hang out with him, not have to use conversation and hang out with them,

not have to use the TV or play with them. And sometimes you want to play, but I was tired, so I'm like, I want to talk about something. So I said, hey, do you know what a carnivorous plant is? He's like, what? He knows the word carnivore from dinosaurs. He was talking about dinosaurs. So I started talking about Venus fly traps. So we learned all about Venus fly traps. I ordered one. we now have one.

So we did that. Then we talked about, huh? I said, those are always fun. They're great, right? Aren't they great? By the way, you can buy them on Amazon. Do you know that? You can buy a Venus Fly Traps.

Yeah, of course. I didn't know that. Yeah, it's weird, right? So we get it, and it's been so fun, by the way. We have it in the backyard, and we watered it, and then yesterday I went out to the front yard, and I caught a little bug, and then I put it in the mouth of it.

He was jumping ups and down, he was so excited. Oh my God, it's eating the bug. So, so, he would love it because of Mario. Yes, because he's, in fact his last Mario stuffed animal was the piranha plant. Perfect. Yeah, yeah, so he. So we did that, and then I was just thinking off the top

of my head, like what else is cool? And I'm like, Mexican jumping beans. Did you guys ever own those when you were a kid? Yeah, I remember that. Yeah, I do remember that. By the way, do you guys know they're seeds? They're not beans, they're seeds. They're seeds?

Yeah, do you know why they jump? I thought it was worms. There's a worm in there, and the reason why it jumps is the worm is trying to get the seed from a place that's hot to a place that's cooler. So when the sun moves, and the shade moves, they jump around, and because of the shape of the seed, it'll flip, it's got two flat surfaces flat surfaces and eventually will move to where it's cooler

I only learned this because I'm going doing course of course so we got those then we got magnets I've been doing this throughout the weeks right we got magnets We're learning about magnetism such a great time just for dads out there like if you have yeah, no, I'm totally gonna It's fun. It's really Colonies haven't done that. Yeah, it's funny cuz It's really fun. I want to steal the fly trap. Ant colonies and all that stuff. Yeah, it's funny because Everett's still into that stuff. Yeah, and we like, we'll take bugs and we'll feed it to the ants and watch them like, you know, devour them and, you know, and then we'll take our magnifying glass out and burn stuff.

I did that with him. It's a good time. That is fun, but you got to be careful. If you leave the magnifying glass out, that can start fires for sure. Yeah, we're like contained, but we're total pyros. So it's like, I gotta also recognize that I did a lot of worse things. Yeah, true.

Like I made it out okay, but I do kinda like, okay, we gotta at least be a little more reasonable. Do you know there's a theory that, I think it was the Greeks used a massive device that reflected the Sun. Yeah, a big mirror, like a gold mirror. Yeah, to send other... Wasn't that on that ancient Greek show or whatever? I wasn't on that one. They tried to build one to like, see if they could...

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Kinda cool, right? That is cool. You know, we, uh, yesterday I fell bad for Katrina because yesterday is yeah. That'd be cool, right? That is cool. You know, yesterday I felt bad for Katrina because yesterday is like our really long day here, right? I didn't get out of here until really late. And we had our first really bad spill, right? I've talked to you guys in the show, right, since we started about Max's journey barefoot and like just, he's been incredible

by his stability and everything. We had our first like real like bad Oh, no. Yeah. I mean like scraped up his knees his elbow He was running, you know running and playing with kids and then yeah, I mean I didn't see it happen, right? so it sounds like he just you know tripped over his feet or tripped over something while he was running hard and just Asphalt and just knees elbows everything skinned up really really bad and just I guess he broke down and was crying and just knees, elbows, everything skinned up really, really bad. And just, I guess he broke down and was crying and wanted his mom and everything like that.

And they finally calmed it down and he's constantly asking, when's my mom with her? Then she gets there. And he is just like, I mean, my overly sensitive son, if you can only imagine, he's never fall like this. It's just, I mean, I call Katrina before I get home. I'm like, what are you doing? And she's just like, I haven't moved from the couch all day. Like he's just, if I get up to go to the bathroom, Oh yeah, he is just, I mean, I call Katrina before I get home. I'm like, what are you doing? And she's just like, I haven't moved from the couch all day. Like he's just, if I get up to go to the bathroom. Oh yeah, he is just, and he's doing the whole,

like he can't walk. So I come down the stairs this morning, right? And he's like, he's over the top right now. He tells, he tells me, I'm like half awake because they get up a little bit earlier than me. And he's in the room and Katrina's already up from the out of the shower and he's sitting on the bed next to me and Katrina's like,

okay, we need to get ready for it. And he's like, I don't think I can go to school today. And she's like, are you sure, son? And she's like, because, and she tells him, you can stay home with me, but mommy's gotta work all day, which means no cartoons, no iPad, you know? But if you wanna play with your toys and read books all day, you can stay here with mommy. He you know, but if you want to play with your toys and read books all day, you can stay here with mom. And he's like, you can tell

he's like thinking about that. Like, I don't know. I don't know if I can, I don't know if I can go to school. I don't know if I can do it. Well, let's, let's try. Let's get downstairs. Try. I come downstairs and he's, he tells Katrina, he says, the backpack is too heavy. I can't put the backpack on. Katrina takes the water bottle out of this and that. No, I think she's like, okay, do you want me to get your old backpack that you used to carry when you were four?

You could carry it. You were four years old when you carried that backpack. He's like, okay, let me try that one, right? So she switches out the backpack, dude. And the way he's moving is like, he comes over, she goes, give your dad a hug goodbye. And he comes, he's like, walking up to us. I said, what are you, 90?

I said, come on, buddy, you're going to be OK. I pick him up and give him a big hug. I said, hey, you know something about us, us Shaffers, you know we're strong and resilient, right? We're tough. Like, when we fall down, we get back up. And I kind of give him that, OK, daddy. Turns around and he's like, walking out the house

just so slow, dude. And Katrina's just like, just, yeah, that's the only way he's like walking out out the out the house is so slow Yeah, that's the only way he's doing it's like all mummy down I both my kids have pulled that shit to drag it his feet and there I mean they're decent scratches, but I mean He's like there's some scratches about these kids being I don't like my health because you imagine these kids get you know raised by 80s parents like we Did you see okay? There's a there's Oh, you broke your leg, walk it off. There's a viral comedy, there's a viral comedy clip going on.

I was watching it, literally, it was so funny that this is the conversation, what I just saw, and then on the way to work, I saw this thing come up in my reels, and it's a guy who's talking about what happened to all the kids in cast. He's like, when I grew up in school, Everybody.

You come to school, it looked like, I forget what he said. Dude, that's a good point. He's a made some analogy of like an old like paraplegic like And he's like someone's foot is up on the desk another person's always sign and one side Okay, he's like what was last time you signed a cast kids don't he's like, you know, that's a good my kids have even done that Bro, he literally made that he's like cast. Yes. I that's a good point when I was a kid so many cast There was always one or two kids at any moment in your class with a broken something. Some sort of a cast.

And he goes, you don't ever see that anymore. Everything is emotional now. Everything is anxiety, emotional. Nothing is physical anymore. They're never physically broken anymore. They're emotionally broken. What if it's a trade-off? What if it's like you either hurt yourself physically

or you suffer? Like you need To go through something maybe I don't know. Maybe I'm throwing something out there. I don't know. It was wild. I don't know Yeah, that's the thing. It's like we've tried to kind of clean up some of the like I'm gonna actually like pay attention as a parent You know and like see You know, but I think that's turned into like no you can't climb on Listen when we were kids in the 80s, when we were little kids in the 80s, cars had ashtrays.

OK, everybody? Your parents smoked in the car while they were driving with you. And you were not in a car seat. I don't think anybody had a car seat. With the windows up, too. You were sitting. Yeah, bro. You were sitting probably on the lap.

I was in the back of a pickup laying down like, ugh. Breathing gasoline in the leg. Literally, the. Breathing gasoline. Oh, man. Literally, the gas tank was like right next to my head. So then it's probably the same. I mean, that's a great extreme analogy, right? OK, so we've probably corrected that, right, for the good. Sure. Yeah, you shouldn't smoke it.

And we probably don't. We probably don't need kids with broken arms and legs all over the place, right? It's not like a necessity. So we've corrected. We've corrected for the good. But like anything else, like everything else, we've overcorrected.

And there's unintended consequences of overcorrection. So overcorrection of the physical injuries all time is now we get emotional injuries all the time. Now their feelings get hurt. Which one's worse? I don't know, dude. I definitely think the emotional one's way worse, way worse. Because I feel like the physical thing is a-

Bro, I had a high school, I had a teacher, I had a high school freshman year. This was a real PE teacher. This was real everybody. He was a teacher. And if a kid didn't refuse to get in the pool to swim, because you had to go through that whole two month period of swimming, he would throw them in. I saw him throw kids fully clothed in the pool. You know what happened if a teacher did that?

Every therapist just their head exploded right now. Yeah. That's for real. I almost want to say his name because it's legit. I don't know if I'll get him in trouble. This is where Katrina and I are different because I'm so not. Yeah, I'm kind of like, hey, seeker swim.

This weekend we were just over at my sister in Los Angeles. They have a pool and you know, we're all outside and Max is on the. They have a pool and we're all outside. And Max is on the other side of the pool and he's kinda doing his own thing. And he's walking close to the edge. And Katrina's like, Max, Max, wait. I'm like, let him go. If he falls in the pool, I'll go get him.

I'm saying, it's like, he's either gonna drown in five seconds, I'm like, I'm right here. I'm like, well. Someone's got a statistic probably to count on. Oh God, of course. It takes five seconds. Hey, you know what? That's what led to all this fucking emotional anxiety

and problems right there, bro.. The one statistic of the one kid that drowned in five seconds is why everybody freaks out. I'm like, trust me he'll fall in the pool, I'll get over there in time, we'll be fine. Same kid with all the food intolerances, you know, like, no allergies. That's different. You know what? He'll probably learn the next time he won't get that close to the pool when he falls. You guys are going too far now. I don't know though.

You know why? Because this is the dad over here the same way. No, no, no. I was in your case. So I'm like- I have food intolerance. I just have vivid memories. I'm like at the dog park and my dogs are doing their thing and I'm like trying to watch them, but then my kids are climbing trees and then like all these other parents are kind of walk around they're like oh my god he like look at these kids and like they're pointing them out and then there's a yay of the great old time like oh yeah they're you know they're gonna have to figure out how to climb back down

you know and they're just like freaking out they're just like are you serious like I swear to god I thought one of them was thinking about cons. Yes. Look up pictures of school of playgrounds in the eighties. This was a school. I broke my arm on like a huge monkey. First of all, they were way higher. That's actually probably statistically. We talk about that's what everybody, everybody broke their arm. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Monkey bars were the worst. Did you guys see someone break their arm at the

playground? Yeah, I did. Yeah, monkey bar. I actually can picture this. I remember monkey bars that were not quite as tall as the crazy ones back in the 60s they showed you. But it was good. Oh yeah, but you ever see the 60s ones? But I do remember that they're inside the, it was in a sandbox, it was dirt. There was a pipe that ran underneath it.

Why? Waiting for some kid to just fall and crack his arm or skull on it. Well, they're all like composite flooring stuff. When we were kids, the best you would get if you were lucky was Tambar. Yeah. If you were lucky. Look at that playground, bro.

I know. What decade is that? That's like 100 years ago. Is it? Yeah. Look what kids used to play on. The glory days. You guys, listen, I wouldn't go up that.

Right now as an adult, I'd be terrified. Little kids used to climb that. That's crazy. Yeah. That is pretty wild. We're little kids used to climb that's crazy Yeah, that is it's pretty wild It's we have we're I mean you remember hot when it was hot outside you go get on the slide you know Slice my big toe off like cuz I slid down with no shoes on you know, it caught the corner Julie caught the corner. Like a rough edge. Do we come back? Do we come back or do we just keep going this way?

Like do we find that we, do we start to appreciate that okay, there was some value in allowing these kids to be able to learn the hard way in some of these things and do we start to go back to that direction? I'm not sure there's enough parents on board with like the old methods. I think you could go too far. I think there's, there's, there's reasonable.

And were these parents right here, right, that had kids that grew up in the 20s, saying things about us who grew up in the 60s and the 80s, right, was, so is it just that every, every, every. They weren't saying that. They were saying this is good, because in the 20s they were working at factories. Yeah, exactly, they didn't have playgrounds? Yeah, so they were like, this is great. Your the 20s they were working at factories. Yeah, exactly.

They didn't have playgrounds. So they're like, this is great. Your children are growing. Oh my God. I used to have to make shoes. So I'm on this kid because I watched that Masters of Air. Doug brought up Band of Brothers. So I went back to watch that again because it's been so long.

Great movie. And I don't even remember half of that series. Katrina and I are really enjoying it. And I just can't, all I'm thinking about is these 20-year-old boys that willingly went to a cross like that. And there's a scene where the guy's, like one of the sergeants is talking to the guys who's got obviously crippling anxiety about it.

And he says one of his problems is, you are looking at this the wrong way. You're trying to, you're so scared and afraid of all this stuff like that because you're thinking you're thinking whether you survive or not, like you accept death now, like we're not coming home, we're dying. Like that's part of becoming a good soldier is recognizing you're not gonna live. It was like that is wild to me that that is like part of the mentality. Yes, was the process where you just have to accept death and then that makes this process of being a

good soldier and gives your chance of actually living, but you have to accept death. And then that makes this process of being a good soldier and gives you a chance of actually living. But you have to first accept that. It's like, that is wild. And that is wild to have done that at that age to accept that role that you're gonna go do that. There's definitely a reasonable balance. There's a reasonable balance.

First off, you need to let your kids lose at sports and games. If they're playing stuff and nobody's keeping score and everybody gets a trophy, that's a big problem because the real world doesn't work that way. Number two, I would say stop hoarding over your children all the time. Let them play a little bit. That way they feel that sense of freedom. I don't think it's a bad thing to let your kid express their feelings.

I do think you can go overboard with validating everything in the sense that, yes, you really feel that way, but not being like, yes, it is the end of the world. Like, okay, your toy broke for you. This is terrible. I totally get that versus it is the end of the world type of deal. I think there's some reasonable ways to do this, some balance, because if you go back to previous generations, it was a little too far in one direction. Now it's's going too far I think in the other direction. I mean what was that thing we saw that stat how many kids bring their parents to

their job interviews? Oh yeah it was like 67%. It was ridiculous. It was a way high number. It was more than 0% which should be the right number. 0% is the correct answer. It should be. Yeah. So whatever anything over that is insane. It was a high percent. Maybe it wasn't 65, it was 35. It was definitely more than a quarter of these kids were bringing their parents to a job interview. I did a lot of interviews. I did a lot of interviews, right? I can only imagine if some kids showed up to my job with their parent. I mean, this is me. I would look at the parent and be like, you know, he's not getting this job because of you, right?

You know he's failing because of what you guys have done. You've done a terrible job as a parent. The fact that you showed up for his interview, he's not getting this job because of you, right? You know he's failing because of what you guys have done. Yeah. You've done a terrible job. The fact that you showed up for his interview, he's not getting this job. You still wipe his ass? Yeah. Unless I'm going to get you here working all the time for him. Are you both applying? Yeah.

Are you guys part of this deal? Actually, I'm interested. Yeah, yeah, I am. Is this a two? That's three for one right there. It's 26%. So it was just over 25% in-person interviews. 26%? One out of four. That is so high.

Brings their mom or their dad to an interview. Are we just done with being embarrassed? Is that like not a thing anymore? Like people just don't get embarrassed. I mean, what, what goes through your head that you think that's a good idea? I don't know why. I know what's the thought process. I'm trying to think of it right now. And then as a parent, what are you doing, like what are you doing thinking that's a good idea?

Yeah. I mean, you can, okay, drop off your kid and leave maybe if they don't have a car. Oh, do you think maybe that's what's included in the stat? No, no, this means bring a parent to a job interview. Literally. 26% physically present in the interview room. That is crazy to me.

Yeah. What does that say? That kid probably never left the bed either, right? Dude, if I... He never had his own room, his own crib. Can I just tell you... Wow, look at that right there. What?

Virtual interviews. 71% respondents said their parents was off camera, while 29% admitted their parent was visible on screen. So three quarters of you have your parents sitting in the room listening to how you do with your interview and 29% of you let them sit right next to you on the Zoom call. Weird. And what do they do? Coaching them behind the camera?

Behind the, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no, no, no. Tell them about that award. Tell them about your participation in the trophy. Tell them about your participation in Trophy. Tell him about it. If I told my dad, if I went to my dad, I got my first job when I was like 14 or 15 too.

If I told my dad, hey, Papa, I'm going to go interview for a job. He'd be like, oh, good job. Can you come with me? Oh, you need a ride? No, no, no. Can you sit in there while I do the interview? He would have looked at me like, is this a joke? Do you want me to slap you? Or did I totally fail as a father?

Like, what's going on here, bro? That's hilarious. I need to cut you off from everything. Oh, oh. Anyway, hey, speaking of family, I gotta tell you guys, so I told you guys how I made those protein popsicles with the chocolate bone broth protein.

How did that go over? Oh, it's amazing. I gotta do that again. No, no, no. So you use coconut milk or macadamia milk or almond milk, freeze it, that's it. And you make little popsicles for your kids and it's protein, it's mostly protein.

Well, what I did is I also made the ice cream in the Ninja Creamy. No affiliation, they need to sponsor us. Bro, bro, it is delicious. Coconut milk though from the can. So it's got that creaminess. I want to try that because I know that you can't. Otherwise it's like a slushie, right? You need to have a little bit of fat to give it that creamy. Yeah. Yeah. That's why I, okay, that's why I know I never tried coconut milk, especially from the can. I know that's creamy. It is very, it is whipped up. It is like ice cream. It is so good. Okay. So good. I like ice cream. It is so good, so good.

I'll try that. I mean, I'm so sold on that thing. I think it's so fascinating. It doesn't make sense to me. I don't understand the science. I just don't. Because the same thing I go like this, in a shaker cup, that makes like liquid.

You put it in that thing and it comes out ice cream. Like that doesn't make sense to me. What's happening here? Where is the science at? Yeah, I don't understand. And it just looks like it's a thing that does this. So I'm Like, that doesn't make sense to me. What's happening here? Where is the science at? Yeah, I don't understand. And it just looks like it's a thing that does this, so I'm like, this doesn't make sense. Put that on the periodic table, yeah.

It's something about how it must mix air in at a certain rate that create that texture. It's gotta be what it is. By the way, this is great. Oh, I know there's some science happening. It's very obvious to me. It's very obvious. You guys.

From liquid to solid to slushy to ice cream. Adam's getting on the phone with him to try and sponsor. Listen, explain the sciences. This is a good point though, because it just goes to show you how much of a role texture plays in palatability. It's the same flavor. Yeah, oh yeah.

It's everything the same. The difference is the texture. And it makes me feel like I'm eating ice cream. Yes, but it's the texture, but just to go show how complex hyperpalli, or palatability is, and what these food companies can do to make food irresistible, and one of them is texture. They'll just master the texture of a food

along with all these other things and make things so completely irresistible. In fact, you guys wanna trip off something? This is a so Jackie sometimes you share some really, really cool studies. So check this one out. So this okay, is that there's a there's an established scientific criteria for

determining if something is addictive. And this was established for tobacco products. So when they were trying to establish like, how do we, what is the criteria that we can use to judge whether or not something is addictive? This started and is based off of tobacco. And then they use this for other things like, okay, other drugs are addictive or other things are addictive based off this criteria. You guys want to know what fits the criteria as addictive based off of this established scientific

you know basis or whatever? Highly processed foods. Highly processed foods fit this criteria. They can be considered if you base it off of what we use to determine whether or not other things are addictive like tobacco. If you base it off that highly processed foods fit that criteria. So they are indeed addictive based off of that context. The fact that we need to study for that. I know, but people argue it. I think it's hilarious when someone tries to argue that. It's for the trolls. This is why we have, and this is a big reason, it's not the only reason, but it's a big reason why we have an obesity epidemic.

We've made food drugs is what we did. We are serving food drugs to people, and so people are having a tough time eating an appropriate amount, so much so that they know that their health is bad and they can't stop. And this has been a creation of a- It's such a snowball effect too,

because it's really hard to get out of. Yes. It normally takes me a solid three to four weeks of like hard, strict diet and eating. To change your- To change the palette and be like, oh, okay, I don't even, I don't crave it anymore. I mean, that's how strong the cravings are.

The cravings are so strong that even weeks later after not having it, you still have this pull towards it. And then you get to a point where you've disciplined yourself to stay away from it for a period of time, which is interesting, and to your point with cigarettes, I think it's much like any other addictive behavior or whatever that you do. It's like, obviously the first week of letting go

of cigarettes or alcohol. The longer you go without it, the easier it is. Yes, and then you play, then you have this mind game of like, oh, I really don't even want it that bad, but maybe I'll try it and see. And that's the dangerous part of realizing that, okay, I think I'm okay, I don't really desire anymore, let me see, and then it creeps back in

and then you're back into that vicious cycle and then it's really tough to get out of that. Yeah, I firmly believe if we, and I'm not saying this is the answer, I'm just saying let's say I had a magic wand and we could eliminate all hyperpalatable, heavily processed foods, and replace it with whole natural foods.

In other words, people still had the same access to proteins, fats, and carbs. I think we would largely solve, we would probably see obesity rates fall back to where they were in the 50s and 60s, which was a fraction of what it is now. Again, because these foods are addictive. But we never will, though.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no. It's so profitable. So profitable, you can patent it. Again, the margins are so big. And the other side of it is we like them. People love them because we love drug-like effects. Yeah, I mean, we figured out how to make it more crunchy, more salty, more sweet. Irresistible. Yeah, it mean we figured out how to make it more crunchy, more salty, more sweet.

Yeah, it's just like, it doesn't really compare unless you take it out of your diet and reintroduce actual whole foods. You know, speaking of technology with Ninja Cream and processed foods and staying around that vein or whatever, did you guys see the virtual driver's license? California is, California can do this now. So yeah, I've been, I wanted to wait.

Is this for driving in virtual places? No, no, no, no, no, no. So you don't need to have your license on you anymore. You basically, so nobody ever forgets their phone. But how often you forget your wallet or your driver's license or something like that. So it's now to where you can, it can be on an app to where you can just, I know.

And then they'll scan it or something? Yeah, I imagine that's exactly how it works. Well, that makes sense. I know. It's kind of weird that we took- The DMV is innovating? Well, I don't even know if that's necessarily DMV or if it's probably like another business that actually-

Yeah, another business. Like, hey, this is gonna be convenient. Oh, it is DMV. Look at that, you are. Wow. What? Yeah. First mobile driver's license. But if you go into the DMV,

your experience is the same. That's amazing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Five years ago. Exactly the same. Still get a number, you know, got to look it up on the microfeach. There's another tech thing that I wanted to bring up and it was on my notes like two weeks ago so I'm going to have Doug look it up so I can remember all the facts about it. But it was the founder from Spotify who made this, it's like a health body scanner thing, really interesting and I wanted to look it up together

I think it's called Necco in e in e ko. Did you send this to us? I don't think I sent it to you guys Yeah, it's like a health body scanner called Necco and it was from the guy who's who created I think that's it right there Let's pull it up right here. Oh It was from the guy who created, I think that's it right there. Let's pull it up right here. Oh. The founder of Spotify did it. And it sounded so body scanning AI. So how does that work?

I'm imagining it scans your body and it takes some other metrics and is able to give you some prognosis or wow. To be able to forecast things like cancer and heart disease, all these things Wow So that other one it's called Sybil. It was through MIT they they did it just though for for the lungs and Figuring out like the development of lung cancer

So they take a few 3d images and then it like through its predictive algorithms kind of Forecasts that like so this predictive algorithms kind of forecasts that like. So this is one of the things that I think is really cool and interesting about AI and I think is going to be a huge game changer for us. I do think that with AI it's going to be able to do for medicine and technology like this to where people and imagine obviously this is probably expensive right now but at one point we could be at a place where we have this type of technology in our homes to where we could be monitoring our health real time.

And I want to believe, even though I'm not 100% sold on if, like we were just talking about obesity and processed food, like if you were doing, you had this access to this scanner to tell you like, hey, you're on track for heart disease in this many years if you don't change course or oh, we had AI technology to forecast what's going on with your health based off of like all these readings. I don't know if it would make anybody change. That's what I'm wondering. It would mean. You're a fitness guy. Yeah, that's fair. That's why I don't know either. I don't know. People know, man. Most people know.

I feel like a lot of people... Unless it scared the crap out of them. I mean, that would scare the crap out of me, even if I wasn't a fitness person. Like, if I got on a thing and it said, based off of our AI readings, you should be dead in seven years. I mean, no, seriously, or you will have a heart attack or a stroke if you can... Like, that would be enough to scare me straight. Yeah, I was thinking about this because the one I mentioned, it's like just focused in

this one area or this one system of the body or I wonder like, you know, because AI right now it's so, there's a lot of different, this innovation for sure, but it's like all of them are addressing very specific things. It's not like, you know, this big artificial intelligence that knows like all the things. It's like general intelligence. Yes So it's either like through our interactions and communication or it's like now they're trying to kind of focus on imagery It'd be interesting to see like how many of those They develop before finally they do have like a full-body scanner or you know what does what you're talking about you know what I think you'll probably

see that stuff first are you reading on it Doug yeah yeah so I think so you know where that where I think that's gonna show up that clip you sent me Adam that where somebody was talking about the trends in the gym industry oh yeah the commercial gyms are dying yeah well what it is and I remember talking even with dawn about this the the mid-tier gyms the mid-tier like nice It's more than the super cheap gyms, but it's not as much as a super exclusive, you know health clubs or whatever That's dying. That's dying. Yeah, what you're left with are the dirt cheap gyms and then the luxury gyms that offer You know spirituality courses and red light therapy and recovery facilities

and they have cafes and that kind of stuff, those are exploding. And I feel like those places will probably bring this kind of technology in there first. Because you'll go in and imagine what a great, imagine managing that gym, what a great thing that would be to sell. Hey, you can come in here

and you have an assessment with a trainer and we do this body scan that is this much accuracy for detecting. This generative longevity scan. Totally. Gives you all this. And then you do a checkup every six months and we see your progress or whatever.

Like that sounds amazing. Are you getting any more detail on it, Doug? Yeah, I'm actually working on something else here right at the moment, but sorry. That's super helpful. I didn't know you were going to squeeze me on it. Well I mentioned that it's been over two weeks since I read the article. So I'll read and tell you what it does. So the company runs a series of scans and tests that creates millions of data points and help determine your state of health across a range of cardiovascular, metabolic, and other conditions.

Then you have an in-person meeting with a doctor to discuss the data, and that's included in the session. Wow. So there you go. So heading in the direction of that. Yeah, that's promising. What's that full body, there's a full body, I don't know if it's an MRI.

It's the ones that the all-in guys talked about, right? Yes, I was looking into that. Yeah. It wasn't that. It took a few thousand dollars to do it. But you'll catch, it's a full-body scan. So you'll see if you have any cancers anywhere before you'll ever detect them. Before, and it was like, I forgot what the percentage, it was a very high, how accurate it was.

And there's several people that have, I mean people that I've heard who've found things that wouldn't have gotten found for like a year. By the time it got found. So this is, that's where I'm getting at with this technology here is because I'm familiar with that. Like I heard those guys talk about that last year. This is now coming on the scene. I've heard some other ones.

Like we're not that far away from this type of technology being accessible. Right now it's probably for the Uber rich and it's tough. That's how all technology is, right? There was a time when only a few people could have phones in their car, and now everybody has one in their pocket. So at one point it'll be accessible to everybody. And you know, the question is, does that tool,

I mean, this is a great argument and debate, right? Does more data, more information, more accurate? It'll help with medical interventions for sure. Because what happens with AI is it could take multiple data points and through looking at other trends and when it's doing this for millions of people, it could pick up correlations and associations that we haven't picked up on yet. So it's like, oh, if you have this and this and this ratio by themselves, nobody would ever say this is red flag. They seem okay.

and this and this ratio by themselves nobody would ever say this is red flag they seem okay but because this AI has this massive amount of data and can put it compile it all say oh these ratios equal of 57% increased risk of this that and the other that's what a I feel like I mean I feel like this will help men the most and that's mainly because they're not gonna get checked so they're watching yeah like you know You know testicular cancer or everything you're supposed to like, you know be on top of that and like check yourself And you know and like all these like oh, I have a dark mole. That's a little weird, you know, like whatever I told you guys about that a while ago, right with that guy who who thought he was funny He peed on a pregnancy test and it showed that he was pregnant and he was posting it on social media.

And he's like, oh guys, look, it says I'm pregnant. And then one of his buddies, the doctor, he's like, go get checked, you probably have to stick with your cancer. Oh my God. Because you're producing HCG at such a high amount. Joke's on you. Yeah, and he did. He did have to stick with your cancer, bro.

That is unfortunate. Yeah, I don't know how reliable that is, but that was. I mean, how lucky is that though that you did that? Yeah, I mean. That's pretty lucky. He caught it. Yeah, lucky like that. Yeah, I don't know if how reliable that is, but that was, I mean, how lucky is that though that you did? Yeah, I mean, that's pretty lucky. You caught it. Yeah. Lucky like that. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, I think about this a lot with like, you know, our, our body fat testing, your, your fat secret, my fitness pal apps. I mean, this is all stuff that you guys remember, like how crazy hard it was when we first started, like to get accurate readings of just what you were in taking or you're like, I mean, there's a lot of like, and, and so much margin for error were fatter today than what we

were then. So did it really help us? You know? So will technology like this really, or is it just going to continue to help the same small demographic of people that were already going to do the things anyway? I think for sure for medical interventions I think the AI is gonna be able to figure out the better more precise doses of medications Applications maybe earlier diagnosis, but look here's the deal our medicine has gotten far more advanced over the last you know few decades But this is the first generation that's not gonna live longer than the previous one might actually fall short And it's not because medicine hasn't advanced. So what okay because we're just living

terribly unhealthy lifestyle. Is that conflicting? Because I've heard the opposite. I heard this is we might live to 120, 130 with technology. Because they're predicting what technology we're going to have. But as of right now our lifespans are worse than our than our parents? Yeah, it looks like it. Looks like we're probably gonna do worse than our parents did. I sure hope that's not true, because... I mean, not us, maybe.

I was gonna say, because, I mean, our parents' generation was not exercising and following their diet, like we were from age 20. Just exercising, had to extend us 10 years. There's a very small percentage of the population that are our parents' age that were working out and exercising at an early age. There's some interesting arguments percentage of population that are parents age that were working out and exercising early There's some interesting arguments around this right?

There's they were more active and they generally ate less processed foods, but then the chemical exposures Have you guys see it's going viral on social media right now? Have you seen you've all heard this right like I ate that when I was a kid. I'm fine somebody put up boxes of processed foods from the 80s versus now in the ingredients. So like we grew up eating Froot Loops, eating macaroni and cheese, Kraft, whatever. The ingredients aren't the same.

They're not the same. They're like, it's like three times as many ingredients and there's a lot more chemicals in them now than there were when we were growing up. I mean I've seen that comparison right now in just like Europe to here. Yes. Like in fact macaroni and cheese is one of the examples I've seen. Yes. And in just like Europe to here. Yes. Like in fact, macaroni and cheese is one of the examples

I've seen. Yes. And like our macaroni and cheese. You think it outlots certain chemicals that we allow here somehow, it's like what? No, no, there's, I don't remember what the number was, but there's a certain number amount of new chemicals that are introduced every single year into the market,

that past regulation, but we have no possible way of testing the effect of all of them combined and the exposures of all of them. There's no way of testing that. And so it's crazy. What does that say? Why life expectancy is falling. Oh, COVID-19 and drug overdoses are the biggest contributors.

That's so funny you brought up COVID-19. Do you guys know what the death rate is? Was on COVID-19 when they all- Does anybody? When all was said and done. No, no, no, new study came out. Okay. Yeah, big study came out.

Age stratified infection fatality rate of COVID-19 in the non-elderly population. If you were, let's see, if you were under 70- Under 70. Under 70. Okay. Your death rate from COVID was 0.07%. One in 1500.

That was the death rate. I know. And we did a lot of crazy stuff to prevent, we actually caused more problems than what we did. You know why though, which is interesting that that's the true stat, is that I don't know anybody at this point though that didn't have somebody who they knew that died from it

Yeah, almost and so that because that so many people got it. Yeah So because that so many people got it that stat was it's not unrealistic Or far for for someone to have somebody who was under the age of 70 who got it and died I mean, I it's it's crazy, but I actually know somebody like that, uh, as they were going, they, they were on their deathbed. Um, they actually like put on a cause of death, COVID-19 and they didn't even, didn't even contract it. Yeah. That's bloated numbers. That's true. That actually happened.

I know hospitals got paid extra for that. So it's, that's just why I'm a little tainted by the whole subject. Yeah. The hospitals actually got, for treating people with COVID and for COVID deaths, got extra money from the government. Yeah. So there was hospitals that were, and I'm not saying this is every hospital, but there were hospitals.

I had nurse friends and stuff that worked at hospitals that were instructed that if that person had COVID, either they died from something else. Yeah, they had COVID. You put them on that list as COVID-19. So they were very much so instructed to do that if there was any way to attach themselves. Do you know what the big learning lesson,

I think, is looking back at that whole period? That we're all fools. Well, I mean, not far. I would say the big lesson is how easily manipulated, because most people, so don't feel bad if you, one of these people that got manipulated, it was pretty much everybody, how easily manipulated we are through fear. If you just scare us enough with enough fear stuff, we'll pretty much do anything. We'll give up and do anything and we'll even harm our own children, which is a lot of what we did. A lot of the problems that came from those

those policies really did a number on children. Locking them up and don't be around your friends and wear a mask, nobody can see your face, you can't see other people's face, you can't read their their emotions. Like we're all damaging stuff that's gonna last for a long time. All because we were scared. So learning, that's a learning lesson. And to think it won't happen again is stupid because scary things happen all the time. I mean, so of course it will. It's not even, that's a learning lesson. And to think it won't happen again is stupid because scary things happen all the time. I mean, of course it will. It's not over still.

I mean, I still go plenty of places where someone's got their kids with a mask on still. Oh, I'm still arguing with people over it. It's like, it's crazy. Katrina, every time she sees one, she looks at me right away. Keep your mouth shut. I just can't.

I feel empathy. I feel bad, dude. They were traumatized. Everybody's so traumatized. You know, whatever. If you're an adult, you do stupid stuff, I don't. I feel empathy. I feel bad, dude. They were traumatized. Everybody's so traumatized. You know, whatever. If you're an adult, you do stupid stuff, I don't care what you do. The kids get me.

That gets me. Like that, because the kids, they follow our lead. You know what I'm saying? Like if you're a dad and you're scared, your kid's scared, guaranteed. No matter what your reasoning being, you're scared in front of your kid, you're gonna scare your kid.

Of course, they look at you to know how to feel. So, you know, and if you're a stupid person who's older and does stupid things, I don't care. It's to your, that's to each their own, you know what I'm saying, that's on you. That doesn't bother me. It bothers me when I see the kids. It bothers me because it's just like,

your fear has just now bled, and you just ruined another generation because of how scared you are. And now look at them. Well, I know. That's tough, dude. Terrible. It's tough to see. Yeah. Shut up. Ruined another generation because of how scared you are and now look at them. Well, I know Dude, it's tough to see. Yeah You have mind pump YouTube mashups up there who put that up there. Oh, I think people were asking about them Yeah, people are wondering. Oh some people have commented about them because they're not this is new

So this is my favorite favorite of the complaints. I know what you're doing. Okay, so what we did- What are you doing giving us more free content? How dare you? So what we did is we've taken topics and we've edited previous episodes that cover that topic in different ways and put them together in these kind of mashup videos. It's additional content, so it's not replacing any of our podcasts or anything else.

It's just more content and it's just an easy resource. So now you could go, oh, all about fat loss, all about muscle building, all about training fast. It's to capture new listeners. Here, five days a week we've always done a show for every guy, you guys. Now we have seven days a week, a show's going up. Two of those are mashups that are topic focused

and they do great at attracting new people. So if you've never heard of Mind Blump and you see this mashup, it's the first time you've ever seen any of that content and the idea is to put all that focused content in one episode and it performs incredibly well for us. It gets a lot of new attention and listeners to us. It's only additional bonus to what you already do. We didn't replace anything you guys ever had. So the people that I've seen complain about are just comical to me Yeah, how is that you get mad that we've we've we're giving more free stuff. Yeah So wild dude, somebody's like you can't keep up. Yeah. Yeah

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First question is from Miss Ming Lee. Do I need to count calories? Sometimes I feel like I'm forcing myself to eat just to hit those numbers. Sometimes I hit my calories without effort. No, no, you don't need to count your calories. When it starts to get important, a couple times when counting macros or calories is important, one, maybe during the education process, a lot of people just have no idea what 30 grams of

protein looks like, what 10 grams of fat looks like, what you know 40 grams of carbs looks like. They just don't know. They just don't know what general amount of calories you would find in a particular meal would be. And so I would do this with clients oftentimes just to kind of educate them. They're like, oh wow, that's how much that protein looks. That's what it looks like. And the second way you'd probably need to count calories

is when you start to get real specific with your goals. If you wanna be generally healthy, generally lean, you don't need to count calories. If you avoid heavily processed foods, if you try to eat your body weight in grams of protein, you're strength trained, your body fat percentage is probably, for most people, vast majority of people, it's going to fall within a nice healthy range.

But if you want to get really lean, if you want to get definition, you want to see your abs, then you probably need to start counting calories because it gets much more specific. I mean I find the only thing that's really that I mean even and I mean even getting shredded. I mean I think you get in really good shape just tracking protein. Protein is the main thing that you just need to follow and track. It's also the thing that most people struggle with hitting consistently and it's the most important when you're following a strength training program. If you're lifting weights to build muscle,

build your metabolism to get leaner, hitting your protein intake day in and day out is far more important than watching exactly where your calories land. And I'm going through this process right now documenting this for everybody to watch and I'm on week two of counting and you'll never hear me talk about, oh no, my calories were 2,800. Oh shoot, they're 32. It's like, it's irrelevant to me. It's all, all you hear me communicate is, oh man, I need a little bit more protein.

Oh man, I'm still not getting enough protein. Oh man, today's a good win. I got exactly where I need to protein. I'm not, like the up or down a few hundred calories a day is really irrelevant, especially when you're strength training and hitting that protein intake. Because if you do a good job of strength training and you're hitting your protein intake,

and let's say you go over your calories a little bit, more than likely those additional calories will get partitioned over to helping you build muscle. Now, I'm not saying that just go bananas and like I say all the time, don't eat like an asshole. So if you eat thousands of calories over your maintenance, then yeah, you're gonna put on some body fat too. But if you are strength training and you're eating protein-centric meals and you go a little bit above or below calories on some days, I'm telling you right now,

it's not gonna hurt you at all. It's not if you're hitting that protein intake. Yeah, one thing I'd add to this is you're not meant to, and it's really not a good idea, to live in a way to where you're constantly counting calories and macros. That is not a long-term solution for health and fitness. Like, it's a short-term way to educate yourself

or maybe to get yourself to a particular goal, but if you live your life always counting, this is not a good relationship with food. It just isn't. It just isn't. And it tends to lead to anxiety and stress and wanting to control everything too much. Unless you're competing for something very specific. But I mean, the only other thing that I tended to do as a trainer, and I know Adam's voice this before, but it's like that, just that one week, just to find out where your maintenance is at and just to have that education and awareness in terms of like what your tendencies

are and your behaviors. So that way too, you can sort of build or subtract or kind of maneuver from there a little more effectively. Next question is from Jacqueline O'Fit. Can you explain how different rep ranges can change your physique? Alright. Now before I get to the speculation, because this is pure speculation and anecdote, I'll talk about the objective ways that rep ranges affect your body. Mainly it's in the kind of strength adaptation that you get, right? So if you train in the low rep range, let's say one to five, you're going to build a lot

of what's known as absolute strength. You start to work in that eight to 12 rep range. This is more kind of your general strength. And then you have your strength endurance with the higher rep ranges, usually up to maybe like 30 reps. And then within that there's explosive strength, there's the kind of strength that provides stability. So that's objective, that's what we can show in studies. You train a low rep range, you're gonna get that kind of

strength. You train a high rep range, that's the kind of strength you're gonna get. Now how it changes your body. Here's the anecdote. Bodybuilders have talked for a long time about how higher reps produces more of this kind of bodybuilder round look to your muscles and how low reps produce this really hard solid kind of granite look to your muscles. I think I've experienced this. It seems to affect my body similar when I train this way. With clients it's hard to say because I never really trained too many people that

got to that level to where you could tell the difference. But mainly it's about the type of performance adaptation that you're gonna get. I mean there's another way to actually present it too is just that when you train in any rep range, let's say you're the type of person who likes the 12 to 15 rep range and you've built somewhat muscle that way and let's say you're at a plateau and someone's telling you,

oh, you should drop to low reps to build more muscle or change your physique, they're right. And part of that is because it's also a novel stimulus. When we manipulate rep ranges like that, even when you're doing the same exercises, it's another novel stimulus. Moving a squat for 12 to 15 reps feels way different than moving a squat for five reps. Even though you're doing the same movement, the load, the type

of muscle demand, like comparing it to muscle endurance versus absolute strength, it feels different. Very different. And that novel stimulus will then stimulate more muscle growth and vice versa. So if you trained always in the five rep range and you've been in a plateau and your goal is to build more muscle, I would tell you to go to 15 reps

because in doing the same exercises, that 15 reps now becomes a novel stimulus for that person. That novel stimulus will create more muscle. Now remember we had Stan Efferding on the show and he was a bodybuilder, but he was known as the world's strongest bodybuilder. He also competed as a powerlifter. In order to get his pro card, he started training

with Flex Wheeler, who was a top bodybuilder in the 90s, early 2000s, and one of the things Flex Wheeler did was he said, we need to bring up your legs, and what'd he do? 20 rep sets of squat, and they blew up. They really developed Stan's legs. Now, main reason why he did is because Stan always trained in the heavy low rep range and it was a new stimulus and he

just got this incredible results from it. So that's you know why it's important to cycle in and out of different rep ranges if you want to avoid plateaus and get consistent results. Next question is from Arki Drums. What is the best approach to tackle a one-week family holiday where you know you're going to be eating freely and in abundance? Training at the resort is easy to do. Just curious about what sort of training would be best. I believe this is the origin of what I first started saying don't eat like an asshole. It was. I think so. That was your advice. Yeah, I think this was like the, like so obviously you've heard that have been said on the show many many times now, but I believe it came from a question

I think it did you know before we before we give advice on this because we'll have some You know I have to pose this To this question it's like if you're if you're living a life where you are stressed out Over your diet for a week, because you're on a vacation and it's worrying you and you want to plan it out because you're not sure what you're going to do and how it's going to be, then you need to have a larger evaluation

of your overall relationship, your long-term relationship to fitness and nutrition. Because if you're consistent, if you're consistent, if it's a part of your life and you're exercising, right, and you're eating for the most part 80% 90% of time you eat healthy. The way you would view a one-week vacation is like this. You wouldn't even think about the food. It would be like I'm gonna go spend time with my family for a week and we're gonna have so much fun. The reason why this

stresses you out is because your relationship with nutrition and fitness hasn't matured to that point yet. So you're at this point where you're worried. What are you? What do I do? What are my plans? Because I know I'm gonna go off or I'm worried about getting body fat I'm worried about you know losing muscle and I get it. I was there for a long time But really it's about being with your family. That's ultimately what it's all about. Alright, so advice wise Hit your your body weight and protein eat it first and that would be it that would be the last that would be the only Thing I would say.

And then Adam's famous line. Don't eat like an asshole. Okay, so where that comes from and why, I know it's like partly tongue in cheek, but it's also very true, right? Part of this problem why people ask these questions is they don't have a really good understanding of how the body puts muscle or body fat on.

The likelihood, the probability of in a week's time you adding seven to 10 pounds of fat all in one week. Almost impossible. It's almost impossible. I mean, you literally would have to eat like an asshole. Like all you did. You'd have to try. Yes, you would have to try.

I mean, all you would have to do is eat cake and ice cream for breakfast, lunch, and dinner, and drink alcohol. I mean, you would have to. The amount of calories you would need to consume to literally put seven pounds of fat on in a week. Even to put on three pounds of body fat. Maybe in a carnival creeps. So what happens and why people, now people are listening

right now, they're going, whatever, I put 10 pounds on last year when I went on my lake trip or whatever. Okay, what that was was you ingested a ton of probably sugars and carbs, so that carbs pair with water. You probably ate a bunch of things that don't agree with your gut. Your gut probably got inflamed. So you got inflammation going on. You got water retention going on. Maybe you did put a pound of fat on. You have a lot of things going on. You have a bunch of extra carbs. So your body's all filled out. Like you, you are temporarily high on the scale, but you didn't actually

put 10 pounds of fat on that week. It just doesn't happen. Now the second part of the question was what kind of training would be best? You know, here's what I do on my vacation. Now, um, the workouts for me now are more about on a vacation, just kind of starting the day off if I do the workout at all. And if I do, it's typically a full body, one exercise per body part, and sometimes-

It's just muscle preservation. Yeah, I'm just getting a pump. It's nothing crazy. Yep, I'm getting a pump. I'm going legs, chest, back, shoulders, biceps, triceps, little core amount. I never train on it. It takes me off the hook.

I never train on it. If I do, it's just so I feel good. I mean, for energy. If I do anything, it's activity. It's a wakeboard, it's go for a hike with my wife It's go on, you know do something physical like I'm not against that like yeah sure enjoy that But like going inside of it like I'm in Hawaii. I'm gonna go inside of a fucking gym like me Like that's weird. It's weird to me. That's weird to me

I mean, I've got a gym in my garage and I work in a gym every day like the fact I won't go see a gym I'm a vacation. You're not there for the gym. No Enjoy yourself don't overdo it. That's literally it. That's my advice. That's it. Yeah, don't focus so heavily on Next question is from Libby Sanderson 14. Please explain the basics of gym etiquette. I don't know what I'm doing Sincerely, I'm a home gym person intimidated by going to the gym. You know, gym etiquette is really centered on being a courteous, polite, and thoughtful person. It really is. So when you go into a gym, gym etiquette looks like this. If you use a piece of equipment, re-rack the weight or put it back to how you found it, which should be like ready for the next person.

Wipe off your sweat. If somebody asks you if they can jump in, so let's say you're doing a machine or you're using a piece of equipment and somebody says, hey, how many sets do you have left? Gym etiquette is to tell them, oh, I have three sets left, but then also if you'd like, you can jump in and let them jump in. Jumping in between sets is also gem etiquette. It's also gem etiquette to not wear heavy-ass perfume. This is actually a big deal. But do wear deodorant. But wear deodorant. Highly suggest that.

And just, you're just doing your workout and you're just really putting things away and being courteous. That's really what it's, the jumping in between sets, this one's the one that a lot of people don't get. That's probably the most confusing. That is. Like what do I do if somebody wants to work in? Very unique to the gym. And is it okay for me to ask to you some questions?

I asked, so it's funny that this happened this morning. It's always okay. And I could tell it was a kid who might be new in the gym. He must have been 19, maybe, I went to UFC gym, and I went up to him and said, hey, how many sets do you have left? And he looked at me, he said, I'm a lot bigger than him, right?

He's like this skinny teenage kid, right? He looked at me like, I'm done now. Do I have to leave now? He's like, almost like three sets. I'm like, cool, I'll be back when you're done. You know what I mean? Like, I think he didn't realize

like he could ask that to be okay. Yeah, yeah. Type of deal. Jumping in is a, that's a big one. And then putting your equipment away. This one's huge. Like, if you use a plate loaded machine, use a pair of dumbbells, you just put it back after you're done with it.

I just always think of some little old lady or something going after me. I have to set it up so it's ready to go. Yeah, I think the big is the working in thing that's probably the most confusing for people. I always offer. So if somebody asks me, I have my headphones on, and they say, hey, how many sets you have? And I'm like, oh, I've got four sets. You can jump in.

I have four sets. You can work in with me if you want, is what I say. Oh yeah, there's more to that. If you're the one jumping in, you're responsible, although they'll probably help you, for changing the weight. That's the other part of it. Yeah, yeah, no. So if I'm jumping in, I'm gonna change your weight stack,

and I'm gonna change it back. Yeah, to where you were at. Yes. Yeah, yeah. So no, it's being polite. I mean, we did a whole Episode on this an old one. Yeah, we've done a couple of it was pretty funny I've done like to Jim etiquette the one so you could totally search the Also, Jim etiquette with clothing, but it's like don't wear jeans. Don't wear jean shorts

What else don't wear little tiny shorts and that's acceptable? tiny shorts and that's acceptable. Not everybody. I forgot. We've all seen the, we've all seen the small shorts, wear underwear underneath them. Yes. Thank you. Oh, sit on the, sit on the bed to keep everything.

Sweat mark on the pants. And we could see what's going on. I mean, gyms are really for the most part. I know everybody probably has some random story they can tell, but for the most part, I think gyms are really friendly. You know, friendly and, you know, and if you ask questions and, hey, is it okay if I do this?

Or is it okay? I mean, people will normally explain that. One of the best things when you're getting to go work at a commercial gym is find out who the fitness manager or the GM is and introduce yourself. And just tell them that you're new here. Like, hey, I'm them that you're new here. Like, hey, I'm Lindsay, I'm new here.

I'm gonna try to sell you training. Yeah. No, I mean, it's nice to get to know the managers who are running the facility. They'll help you feel more comfortable, especially if they're good, and it's a good place. You know what I do now, because obviously we've been working out in gyms forever,

if I notice somebody that's working hard and it looks like they're relatively new or whatever, I always make it a point to- Tell them your mind pumps out? No. Listen to my podcast. My mind pumps out. No, no, no.

I fist bump them. I walk by and I'll make sure I give them one of these. Just to encourage them because I know what it's like to be. I remember as a kid being that new... I was never really into it. I was so excited, but I remember, I told never really into it, I was so excited but I got, I remember it was one of my, I told the story many times, I got you know pulled in by this group of like very intimidating power lifters and it was a great, it was such a great feeling. You know I want everybody to feel like that when they walk into the gym. Look if

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