Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 2448: Three Exercises You Must Include in Your Workout as a Beginner (Listener Coaching)

Episode Date: October 18, 2024

In this episode of Quah (Q & A), Sal, Adam & Justin answer four Pump Head questions drawn from last Sunday’s Quah post on the @mindpumpmedia Instagram page.  Mind Pump Fit Tip: 3 Exercises You Must Include in Your Workout as a Beginner. (2:05) GLP-1s impact on the US obesity rate. (18:36) GLP-1s may reduce opioid overdoses. (30:21) Insidious motives. (31:53) Kids say the cutest things. (39:21) Justin’s ‘respectful’ violence outlet. (40:14) Experimenting in college. (49:33) Adam updates the audience on his pec injury. (54:15) The ultimate anti-aging beauty serum for the skin. (59:33) Shout out to Dr. Lauren Fitz! (1:04:59) #Quah question #1 – What are some quick, no-equipment exercises you can do during vacations that can help you retain muscle? (1:06:56) #Quah question #2 – What does cardio look like to increase endurance without compromising muscle? I know it’s terrible for fat loss but how do you go about it to be in good cardiovascular shape for real-world situations? (1:10:46) #Quah question #3 – What's your take on Pilates? (1:13:53) #Quah question #4 – What are your thoughts on CA banning artificial food dyes? (1:19:43) Related Links/Products Mentioned Visit Joovv for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! ** Code MINDPUMP to get $50 off your first purchase. ** Exclusively for Mind Pump listeners, head over to Eterna Health to discover the benefits of PLGAns. Whether you’re looking to restore your skin or revitalize your hair, PLGAns has the solution. ** For a limited time use the code MINDPUMP10 for 10%. ** October Promotion: MAPS Muscle Mommy 50% off! ** Code OCTOBER50 at checkout ** Mind Pump #1382: Why Everyone Should Squat Mind Pump #1652: How to Overhead Press Your Bodyweight Obesity is falling for the first time as Ozempic and weight loss drugs rise MAPS GLP-1 | Muscular Adaptation Programming System Semaglutide may reduce opioid overdoses, a new study suggests TRANSCEND your goals! Telehealth Provider • Physician Directed GET YOUR PERSONALIZED TREATMENT PLAN! Hormone Replacement Therapy, Cognitive Function, Sleep & Fatigue, Athletic Performance and MORE. Their online process and medical experts make it simple to find out what’s right for you. Weed-killing chemical found in majority of U.S. urine samples Mind Pump #680: Dr. Zach Bush on How to Restore Gut Health Gavin Newsom Signs Ban on Artificial Food Dyes in School Snacks and Drinks. What to Know American Food Companies Must Stop Doing This Now! Testimony Washington D.C. Senate Roundtable Building Muscle with Adam Schafer – Mind Pump TV Visit NED for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! ** Code MINDPUMP at checkout for 20% off ** Mind Pump Podcast – YouTube Mind Pump Free Resources People Mentioned Zach Bush (@zachbushmd) Instagram Vani Hari | Food Babe (@thefoodbabe) Instagram Jillian Michaels (@jillianmichaels) Instagram Adeel Khan, MD (@dr.akhan) Instagram   LAUREN FITZ, M.D. (@drlaurenfitz) Instagram  

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Here's three exercises you must do if you're a beginner. You guys wanna guess what the first one is? You better know the answer to these. I mean, obviously, if we start, the very first one has to be squat. Yeah, definitely. For so many reasons. Yet, what's interesting about that is that

I think that this, we communicate this all the time, yet I still don't, as much as I've seen the increase in the popularity of the squat rack in the last decade, I still don't think it's a cornerstone of most workouts. Do you? No, it's still considered, I would say like a Advanced exercise or something, right? It's a fun, so if you wanna categorize movements

and exercises and pick like the ones that you need to do or you must do, you know, and you wanna look at that, what that context looks like is bang for your buck, okay, so I do one set of this exercise, I'm gonna get more of a return than if I did one set of other exercises, so I do one set of this exercise, I'm gonna get more of a return than if I did one set of other exercises, so that's one. Number two, does it have a lot of carryover to quality of life?

That's another thing to look at. Like, you could do some exercises, get really good at them, and then there's a little bit of carryover, and then others just make you much more functional in your everyday life. That's number two. And then number three, is it a functional human movement? In other words, is this a-

It's a primal pattern. Is it a necessary movement pattern that you need to train? Because if you lose it, then you lose so many other movement patterns. And when you look at exercise in that context, the squat is there. It's right there, right? A good, well-performed squat will give you better results in terms of muscle building, fat loss, than the next three or four exercises combined. It improves your quality of life dramatically because it strengthens the lower body, the

lumbopelvic hip area. It improves stability in the core. And then in terms of it being a fundamental human movement, if you don't practice the squat and you start to lose the ability to squat, you start to lose the ability to do a lot of different things. So it's very important that you practice this movement. Well, with that in mind, I mean,

I don't have your cheat sheet in terms of like, which ones you picked, but I would assume, like one of them would have to be like the vertical press, like a shoulder press because Again to that point like if you don't vertically press you do Lose that ability which is something that you need to have. I mean you're gonna be reaching up overhead You're gonna be holding things overhead and you're gonna need to be able stabilize that have the strength So I mean that that would definitely be a fun

Of course, that's why they call it the squat of the upper body. But to continue on with the squat points that you're making too, I also think that our community has done a really disservice to the general population, especially the hypertrophy-based coaches and trainers, because I think that we've communicated that we've told people that they don't, you don't need to, oh, it's, it's this whole idea that you have to squat is, is not true. You can build all this muscle by doing this and this. In fact, here's studies to show that this activates the quads and the glutes as much or

more. And I remember being a 20 year old kid, uh, not wanting to squat and hearing this information, it was like, exactly, I knew I didn't need to do it. I'll just leg press today, you know? And I just think that we do a disservice to so many people for all the other reasons. Of course, building muscle is also important and burning body fat, but just the carryover to overall life and like, getting good at the squat completely eliminated my bursitis, my low back, the chronic pain that I had.

That pain's huge. I mean, so if you can get to a place, and you don't have to be crazy strong, but get to a place where you can squat a good weight, you know, your body weight or a little more, full range of motion, it requires good, healthy, strong, mobile ankles, good, healthy, strong, mobile hips, uh, good core strength. And I mean, it just, it requires so many, uh, important things that as we age,

we tend to, and you guys know this from all the clients you've trained, how often did you deal with knee pain and hip pain and low back pain? And a lot of that started, that chronic pain that these 50 year old, 60 year old clients complain about, that chronic pain came from weakness and instability and a lot of those joints that are addressed in a good squat through full range of motion. It's funny, when you hear of Westerners complaining of public bathrooms in other countries, it's always because they're the public bathrooms that require to squat.

And they'll be like, I can't do it. You know, these are like 27 year olds, 30 something year olds, and they're like, I can't sit in a squat. It's uncomfortable. That's because you stop squatting. We sit in chairs. That's about as close as we get to a squat. So what happens is you lose the ability.

But if you're watching me, we all have kids, but you ever watch little kids, they squat comfortably. It is a very natural, fundamental human movement that you, your body, you know, for lack of a term, forgets. Um, if you don't practice it. And then what comes along with that is pain. And you're right, Adam, what the fitness industry does is it sells the visual appeal of a fit and healthy body.

So they talk in terms of like body parts, quads, glutes, hamstrings, sculpt, shape, you know, and we even talk like that on the podcast at times to bring people in. But that really is a reflection of a fit and healthy body. Well, if you have great looking quads, hamstrings, and a great looking body, but you can't do a squat, that's a problem. It would be like looking like you can walk really body, but you can't do a squat. Yeah. Uh, that's a problem. It would, it would be like looking like you're, you can walk really well, but

you can't like walking is, is a fundamental human movement, by the way, at some point in the future, this may be discussion around walking as well. You don't need to walk. We just glide everywhere with these, you know, whatever machines and you will end up forgetting or not being able to do this again, this fundamental human movement now on the, on the flip side to sell this in terms of results when you train movements that your body was designed to do or evolved to do whatever you believe you tend to get the best results. So a squat just delivers incredible results from a strength, athletic performance, muscle

building, fat loss, sculpt your body, shape it. Like when I got clients who worked out on their own already regularly, and then they hired me and they couldn't squat, getting them to be able to squat and then squat, that alone blew away everything that they did. Everything that they did. I mean, I'd have them stop leg pressing, hack squatting, leg extensions. Like, okay, we're not doing that. We're going to practice and get good at squatting.

And we have some issues to address. Let's improve mobility and stability. And then, you know, after a couple of months, now we can squat and I'll start squatting and they're like, I've never looked this good and I'm doing one exercise versus these other three that I used to do all the time. I'm glad you said that because I know that there's people probably listening that have seen me train somebody in their sixties and said, I don't remember you squatting with that client or what if you can't squat? You're telling me that I'm just going to...

No, you're going to get clients and we've talked about this so many times that you need to meet them where they're at, right? And that might be somebody who I can't squat on day one with them, but the goal is to get to them. And I've had clients that I've trained for years and we actually never did get to the squat. So that's a possibility. But the programming, the training, the mobility work that we were doing was always in pursuit of getting that, getting to a place where we can squat. The worst thing I think you can do is to just accept, oh, yeah, squatting I was told was bad for me, or I shouldn't do it, therefore I just, I'm not ever going to do it again.

It's like, because it's such a fundamental human movement, why would you just write that off as a possibility? And it's like, no, let's solve this. Let's find out why you think you have quote unquote bad knees or bad hips and let's get to the bottom of it. And a good coach and trainer can do that is they'll help them get to the root cause of all this chronic pain.

And then with the goal and the intent of one day we want to get back to being on the squat again. Because then once you can get to that place, and this is what I've talked a lot about with my own personal journey, which was so interesting was the amount of mobility work that I had to put in to get to a deep, full range of motion squat and to address the bursitis and the low back cramping was a lot of work.

It was a lot of work for several years, very, very consistent, but the cool part was once I got there, now as long as I squat, full range of motion. Keep it. Yeah. I don't have to do all that other work anymore because it addresses that in order for me to go all the way down ass to grass I've got to have good ankle mobility. I've got to have good hip mobility I have a good core stability like all those things I get from just continuing to do it And so now the work of keeping it up is much easier than it was to get to that point Now Justin you brought the overhead press that's definitely a movement you need to

incorporate. The shoulder joint is very complex joint a full a full overhead extension all the way down all the way up works the shoulder joint the scapula the scapula has to rotate out as the humerus moves up. You have to incorporate when you're standing, stability in your core. It is a fundamental human movement that you will lose if you don't practice. Like when I got clients who were in advanced age, many of them couldn't fully extend their arm above their head. Not even

lifting anyway. Lift up further with their, raising their heels. Come up on their toes or they would lean back, but they couldn't fully extend their arm up above their head. Now these weren't like 90 year old people, people in their sixties, and they couldn't fully extend their arm over the head. Why they stopped training and strengthening that now from a results perspective, it develops the upper body very well for athletic purposes, performance purposes, I would argue that an overhead press, and I could argue this

all day, is more important than a bench press for athletic performance. So you need to do some kind of a full extension overhead press to get that full upper body development and maintain health of that whole shoulder joint. There's so much going on in the shoulder. So much. And it's one of the more common areas that people hurt themselves. Of course, you have the back and the knee.

Huge area for dysfunction. Shoulders very, very close. Now, what do you guys think it is about that? Why is this one that is overlooked so much? The first thing that comes to mind for me is, I think when most people look at the shoulder press, they think just the shoulder. And you don't realize that a full range of motion overhead press like that is literally

a full upper body. I mean, everything, everything that has to stabilize and support the shoulder girl, which is all kinds of muscles in the front, all kinds of muscles in the back, plus the shoulder, plus the trap, you have all of these muscles. Rotator cuffs, everything. Yes, that have to work in order to perform this movement and so it is actually this you know huge bang for your buck type of like the squats why they call it this the squat of the upper body is because that whole shoulder girdle area has to

be supported to do a good full range of motion with good control all the way up and stability everything's getting engaged and needs to work together. And so again, it's another one of those things where, oh, you think because you're limited to it, you just write it off. I'll never do it. Where again, the pursuit of getting to that place where you can do this could benefits that entire area. So if you've ever had neck stuff, shoulder stuff, upper back issues, mid back stuff,

like you got all that gets addressed in learning to perform a great overhead press. Now most people do some kind of an overhead press in a workout, but they don't do a full range of motion. They don't do it standing. Oftentimes it's with the back supported or it's on a machine. Again, they're not doing full extension. They're not coming all the way down.

And so shoulder injuries become more common as a result of this improper technique and lack of emphasis on this. Because the shoulder joint is very complex. It's the reason why we could throw with accuracy. It's why we became the apex predator. We have this humerus that moves in this joint, but we have this scapula, this shoulder blade that moves along with it and can retract and depress and can externally rotate. We have this humerus that needs to stabilize.

And you get a lot of that with just a basic, standard, well-performed standing overhead press with full form. So one of the best exercises you could do for the upper body to maintain that shoulder well. There is a tendency too, because there's a lot of machines like to your squat point earlier, like there's ways to kind of like address certain parts of the shoulder

and build and develop the shoulder, but to really stabilize it, this is where too you're gonna see some lower back issues, you're gonna see some stabilizing issues where people get injured, because not only are we working the shoulder, but it's the whole body, it's everything in unison, and to be able to brace the spine

while you're doing this is paramount. You know, another problem with this is you can have a well-developed looking shoulder that has poor function. This is actually quite common. You see this often in bodybuilders. A lot. They have really round delts, and then you tell them to, you have them do a full range of motion shoulder press

where it comes all the way down the upper chest, full extension while they're standing. And they can't. And their shoulder hurts, because they're training these kind of short ranges of motion shoulder press, where it comes all the way down the upper chest, full extension while they're standing. And their shoulder hurts, because they're training these kind of short ranges of motion just trying to develop the muscle. So, now by the way, there's no trade off. Full range of motion will develop better shoulders anyway.

So it's not like you're losing out on development for function, it's both. That's why this is such a key exercise. And if you're a beginner, practicing this will really improve upper body stability. Again, that shoulder health, which is so important. And then lastly is a row, a well executed type of a row that really pulls the shoulder blades back and down,

allows you to get that good posture. The mid-back has to be one of the most, probably one of the top three, right? Number one being the core, maybe in the hips. But the mid-back has to be one of the most, probably one of the top three, right? Number one being the core, maybe in the hips. But the mid-back has to be one of the most underdeveloped musculatures in just modern people. It's counter to what you do all day long. It's so weak, we don't ever stabilize

with the shoulders. In fact, when I would get new clients and I'd have them do a row, nobody could do a row the right way. They could pull the weight back, but nobody could. In fact, when I would pull their shoulder blades back and pull the weight back, but nobody could, in fact, when I would pull their shoulder blades back and get them in position,

it was like I was moving, you know what it felt like? It felt like you get a rusty machine, you add some WD-40 and you finally start to get moved. They would look at me and go, what's happening? And then they'd feel like how open things were, and it would blow their minds. Well, that's because we just do,

we do everything in front of us. We do everything in front of us, you're never gonna find anybody doing this. And so those muscles just go to sleep. I mean, you talked about this earlier, just we don't use it, we lose it. And I think that that's not being addressed. And then when people finally decide

they're going to do create these movements, they don't realize that they have rounded themselves so forward that even when they're performing a movement like a row, thinking that they're doing their work the right way, they're still not getting the scapula to retract and actually engage all that mid-back, which by the way, plays right into the exercise that we just talked about before. So this is why these three are so important.

They work well together. If you can do all of those really well, like your overall movement for your upper body and lower body- Pretty good. From a health perspective, from strength, for joint stability and strength, like it's gonna be pretty damn good and you'll actually develop a pretty good physique literally just practicing those three movements. Yeah, I just think it's unfortunate that we get in the weeds sometimes and again I think to

our space, our professionals, our peers, with debating things that I think are so nuanced, or splitting hair difference. And we lose a lot of the general population on the things that are really going to give them the greatest return. And it's like, man, I'd have to say 80%, 90% of the general population, if you just got good at these three movements,

you're going to live a very healthy, strong, mobile life if you just practice that. And if you're going to live a very healthy, strong, mobile life if you just practice that. And if you're already late in the game and you've lost some of those abilities, working toward that becomes more important than the 30 pounds of body fat you think you need to lose. That becomes more important than looking a certain way in that dress.

Like this becomes the most important thing and you'll still get that other thing. You'll still get it. Yeah, it's actually the fastest way to get those other things that we tend to focus on most but it's like that's the path To do that and I think that we've over complicated that for the general population All right. I got some really you know, you guys heard me Talk about this last night in our our GFD one Justin didn't but I know you weren't there. Yeah Yeah, so interesting study. I didn't but I did. Oh you weren't there. Yeah, yeah, interesting study.

I didn't know this. So first time in history ever that the US obesity rate fell. Did you know that? Did you know this? I did not. I didn't know it either. This is going, now there's speculation around it

and I agree with the speculation so I'll make a bet as to why but since we've been tracking obesity, it's only gone up. It's only gone up every single day. Every five years we track it or whatever, four years we see it going up, up, up, up, and I thought, I think the hope was that hopefully it flattens out at some point because we've reached peak obesity.

We just can't get any worse. Although I- Can't cram any more in. Yeah, like, okay, this is like the limit and this is how far it can go and so that was like the hope like is It gonna slow down, but it didn't slow down. It's been growing It's been growing been growing especially since we've been in the industry over the last, you know, two and a half decades But for the first time ever it's been observed that the obesity rate fell and Many experts are attributing this to the use of GLP ones Wow GLP GLP-1 agonists. It's already making the impact. Something like one out of eight Americans

are using these, if I'm not mistaken. I was just gonna ask you if you know what the number is. I'm curious to like the total amount of people now that have probably used it. Maybe you can confirm that for me, Doug, but it's becoming. So the millions though, millions of people now have. If I'm not mistaken, we are implementing it and adopting it.

It ridiculously rapid rates at the moment. They believe this is why obesity is falling. For the first time ever, we have a... I hate using this term because I think this is not accurate what I'm about to say because it's way more complex than just using a GLP-1, but this is as close as we've ever gotten to a silver bullet. So 12%- 12% already?

Yeah, there you go, yep. Wow. Yeah. So at some point with around 6% currently taking one. Now I, so one in eight have taken- Give me an idea on numbers on what that is. Like how many millions of people is that? Well, 12% of us are 350 million people.

Just give me some rough math, what is it? Yeah, it's 350, 340. So 12% of that is what? So it's like almost 40 million people. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. I predict, I believe you're gonna see 60 to 70% of Americans on these at one point. That's how prevalent they're gonna be.

That's crazy you think the growth is gonna still, I mean that to me is already an alarming of 12%. I remember, so I remember a time when, do you remember like back in the days, 24 hour fitness used to do this every year, because we were a part of the popularity. In fact, we talked about this all the time that, we never even heard people call it the fitness industry.

It wasn't an industry. It was like a niche thing that people did. And I remember when we used to share the stats on like how many Americans that are working out are using a gym and the percentage was lower than that. So to think that we've reached a point where there is more people on GLP-1s than when we first entered the space that we're actually working on the gym is fascinating. GLP-1s have been used on, diabetics, they've been prescribing them for a while, but now what we're prescribing it for is for weight loss because the data's coming out.

We're seeing like, oh, this is effective. And it is. There's like, there's no... We've never come close to any kind of a medical intervention, especially a non-surgical one, that comes close to the weight loss effects of these peptides and it's making an impact on the obesity rate. Now there's some things underneath that that nobody's really talking about because here's what's gonna happen. We're gonna see this big dry... and I guarantee this wouldn't happen. I guarantee the government is gonna mandate insurance

companies cover it. You're gonna start seeing these things being used in mass and it's a right. You need to have these because they're so effective. Obesity kills so many different people and all that stuff. But what we're ignoring is the silent epidemic that's underneath that, which is the under-muscled epidemic. And for people who are like, what are you talking about? If you look at the amount of people with diabetes, and let's just look at cardiovascular disease and diabetes.

Forget all the others, because you can look at cancer and all that stuff, but just pick those two. It's true that a majority of people who develop diabetes or who get coronary artery disease or cardiovascular disease are obese, it's true that a majority of them, but there's a sizable minority. Some estimates like 15%, 20% are never obese, and yet they still get those things.

What's going on? They don't have enough muscle. And obese people also don't have enough muscle. I remember a while ago there was a study that came out that just blasted the myth that obese people carry more muscle mass. They actually suffer from sarcopenia. I believe that, I believe that for a long time.

I just, you just, it makes logical sense that okay, this person who's 300, yeah they're carrying this weight, if I had to carry an extra 100 pounds around all day, I would get stronger, I would build more muscle to adapt, but it was fascinating to see that research on that it's not true. No, sarcopenia is actually more common because there's a strong connection,

and I believe it's cause and effect, with poor muscle metabolism. I mean, this is a tissue in the body that has a profound effect on your body's ability to utilize insulin and testosterone and estrogen and progesterone that is a storage vessel for carbohydrates or glycogen that burns lots of calories. It's a very active tissue but it's this organ that we can actively manipulate. I can't really do that to any other organ necessarily manipulate. Like I can't really do that to any other organ necessarily,

but my muscle, I can make it way stronger, healthier and build it. And so what my, my fear is that people are going to go in GLP ones, not strength train, not address the muscle loss that comes from just eating less calories. And we're going to see, you know, maybe better than not, right? I think we're still going to see. We're talking millions, like 40 million people right now. Like, think about that. I guarantee like, right? I think we're still gonna see. If we're talking millions, like 40 million people right now, like think about that. I guarantee like, ugh.

I mean, how many people do you actually think are doing this right? Let's just put it that way. Small percentage. Very, very small. Yeah, small. But, I mean, look at our example. Even from people I've talked to about this.

Well, I mean, look at the example. I mean, this has probably been one of the most interesting or exciting parts about what we're doing with this group of 50 people that we have in the GLP-1. There's a very wide range of people that are using it. The most common challenge that I see in the group and our experience has been the plateaus, has been the inevitable plateaus that will come. Somebody gets on this GLP-1, they want to lose 50 pounds or more.

And they see the immediate success from it, because it does absolutely crush the appetite and get rid of a lot of these crazy cravings and stuff like that noise that people have around food, which is incredible, it does that. But it literally is only just cutting calories, and then they just lose this weight, and then the body kind of plateaus and then it becomes, what do I do? And now the medical field says,

well, we'll just increase the dosage. Increase the dosage. Increase the dosage, keep them walking. But then that doesn't solve the other issue that Sal was bringing up, which is, are we more riddled with obesity or are we riddled with being under muscle? It's both. So first off, if you just cut your calories your body adapts by pairing muscle down. This is why they plateau. This is why we have people in our group who are eating 1,100 calories. They lost an initial 25 pounds

and they have another 25 to 30 to go and it stopped working. And they're active. They're working out And they're active. They're working out, they're moving, they're doing stuff. They're trying to and they're like, what do I do? Like we got a reversed IU. We got a reversed IU, build some muscle, your body has plateaued. Here's what's gonna happen if people don't do this right.

They're gonna lose muscle, lose mobility as a result, and you're gonna see nutrient deficiencies go up as a result of the lower caloric intake. All of which can cause more of their own problems. So if you use them right, and I think that, so if we look at another medical intervention that was like culture shifting, and it was culture shifting, antibiotics, right?

Antibiotics got invented, and man, it solved a lot of problems. What did we do? We went crazy with them. Threw it at everything. You did over and over again. You got a cold, here's some antibiotics. When I was a kid, when we were kids.

Everybody's guts suffered. When we were kids in the 80s, okay, you know how easy it was getting antibiotics? Yeah. How many times I was throwing it? Almost every mom just had a jar of it. It was like vitamins. Inside the house.

You know, anytime you're sick, they didn't say was it a virus, it was hey, let's take some Moxacillin. Now we're developing these like super bugs that could threaten to wipe us out and there's a lot of dysbiosis and autoimmune issues that might be a result of this overuse of antibiotics. We feed it to animals that crazy.

I think we've got to be very careful, but I think if you use them right, there's going to be some crazy potential benefits, but you've got to use them right. That's the thing that we can control. Well, switching to the positive stuff that I see in this group, the thing that I think, and this was my experience too, so it's really interesting to hear that this is kind of the consensus, is the anybody, and this is where I think the most value of these things are, anybody

who's been challenged with food before and they're self-aware enough to know that they have a relationship issue with types of foods or things, or medicating with food like where it's just like man You know Adam, I know I fuck up. I know that you know some nights I'll go downstairs and I'll just eat like 1500 calories worth of ice cream or this stuff and I know I'm not it's an ingrained behavior Yeah, right and they and they they're they're aware But then they have such a hard time of breaking that. The part that everybody has said that has gone through it is just like, it just gets rid of that completely. You do not have that. And that was my experience. I thought, well, this is really weird.

I don't even have a pool for that food. Even when I continued to lower the dose, I was like, this is a trip. Even on very low doses, I still don't. And that was what, so this is the part that I think we're going to really evolve in this space and the doctors and stuff are going to come along hopefully, eventually, which is getting that benefits with these lower doses but then still having enough of an appetite so I can reverse diet and go the other direction. Because it's really tough to ask a client to reverse diet when you take something that completely crushes the appetite and they don't want to eat more than a thousand calories

but yet then they're seeing these huge benefits from them not bingeing doing other stuff. If you use it with behavior modification practices, strength training, high protein diet, I think you have for the first time ever a real, like a large majority chance of really having long-term success. But it has to be because if you stop in this behavior, this hard behavior, this like, I always eat this way, I always eat this way, and you stop it because you have this peptide that now has reduced the craving dramatically, you've weakened those neural pathways

Then you supplement it with or you replace it with a different behavior and you do this for an extended period of time You strength train so you don't lose muscle eat a high protein diet. Then you go off You're in a good position. You're in a good position to not go back to where you were before because you broke the habit But by the way, I do want to say this I think if you're going to do this, I think going through a compound pharmacy is better because you have more flexibility on the dose. What we're finding, just in the group that we're working

with, is there's a wide variety of how people, this person over here takes this much and it made them nauseous and sick to the stomach, so they have to reduce the dose. This person over here had to take three times as much to get whatever effect. But when you go through your doctor and you get these name brand prescriptions,

it's like, nope, you're starting with this dose. In fact, the pins that they come and click, and that's the dose. There is no way to lower it. Compound Pharmacy allows you to take microdoses and adjust according to how your body feels. By the way, there's a study that just came out that shows that some agglutide,

which is, that's the brand name ozempic, was associated with reduced opioid use in patients. Now the crazy part about that is the amount of people that we have addicted to opioids. It may just in fact work with the part of the brain that causes us to have cravings with almost anything in some cases. You get lots of reports of people drinking less alcohol.

That's what it's, I mean, obviously it's pointing to that, right? It's easy because everyone's doing it for weight loss or to be obvious about, oh my God, now I don't eat the ice cream. But people are connecting it to biting nails, they're connecting it to smoking, they're connecting it to drinking,

they're connecting it to, now, opioids, it's wild how many things else are being impacted by this. Now, I wonder though with a study like that, Sal, because that's a, there's a lot of money in that side. So like there's a lot of, you know, does it make pharma enough money on the ozempic side to counter the other side? You get an obesity, an obesity intervention that works, you have the most, you're the richest pharma company. There's nothing that will come close to that at all.

But you're right, how many other medications will it potentially replace? I don't know, I don't know, it's crazy. But yeah, so we work with people that use a compound pharmacy. For people who are interested, it's mphormones.com and then they can kind of adjust your dose. But I find this interesting. I'm looking at the studies

on autoimmune issues and other addictive type behaviors because this is weird. This is wild. Did you see the statistics? I think it was for American children and they were talking about what they found in their urine. Oh yeah. For 80% of them.

Roundup. 80% of them have glyphosates in their urine. Yeah, you should look at the studies on pregnant women and breast milk and how much of it has glyphosates in it. Yeah. It's everywhere. It's alarming, dude. I mean, it's just crazy to me that that many kids,

like, you know, it's just already in their blood. And do you think it is they are getting it because it, they are getting it from, because it's in everything, or is it getting passed down from the mother? Is it? Oh, it's in, I mean, it's in rain water, or just water from the rain. It's in anything that's non-GMO. I mean, I don't know how many millions of years ago.

I remember when you had the conversation with Dr. Bush years, years ago, and he talked about even organic stuff, it doesn't matter, because it's in the rain and it gets in the soil. You'll have less of it. Yeah, so you get less of it, but you're still getting it. The only way to know for sure is they have these kind of third party companies that will test foods and say glyphosate residue free, and then you can see, okay, this is... But you can dramatically reduce it.

They've done studies on people who eat organic. So they'll take people who eat like a conventional diet and they'll switch to organic. Then they'll test their urine 60 days later. And you see a substantial decrease in all the synthetic pesticides and glyphosates. So you could definitely do that. You know, it's so tough to balance the two conversations

that we're having right now. I know. Because we're talking to the masses on obesity and solving that issue and getting the root cause of that. And it's like you got people that are binging candy and ice cream and all these bad habits. And it's just like. There's a priority list. Exactly, that's what I'm getting at right now.

It's like, I don't wanna lose people of like, you know. Don't switch to organic potato chips. Yeah. Like. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's like gonna solve a lot of your problems. But I think that's what happens is I think like, you know, don't switch to organic potato chips. That's like an assault problem. But I think that's what happens is I think that you get somebody who already has all this, um, emotion and stuff that's wrapped up with, uh, medicating with food.

And then they start to decide they're going to make these changes. And then they start going down the rabbit hole and they're like, Oh my God, I can't have this and I'm getting poisoned by that. And the metals in this and the toxins and that and the microplastics in this. And it's just like, fuck, this is too much. It was just easier to be fat. I'm just going to go that way. So I feel like that's what happens.

I never want to lose the audience with that of understanding where the big rocks are first and first getting yourself in a healthy weight, where you're not constantly stressing the body all day to operate, right? Like once we get to a place where we're in a manageable way, then we can start to layer on like the priorities and trying to get better and improve with the decisions that you make around the quality of the food that you're getting. But there's definitely levels to this and I don't ever want to lose the beginner. We started off talking about the exercise for beginners.

It is wild though, cause you're seeing a lot more news around food dye and additives and foods. Yeah, forever chemicals. Yeah, you're seeing a lot more stuff on that just because I think there's more awareness. There was, I forgot what it was, she spoke at Congress, food babe,

whether you agree with her or not. She went viral, so she went down and spoke to Congress when Max did. So Max Lugovic was there. So did Jillian Michaels right around the time? I don't know if she went. Which by the way, I was really impressed with her talk by the way.

Did you see Jillian? She was great. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, she did really good. I know the fitness space, we've railed on her quite a bit. Because of the biggest loser. Yeah, yeah, you know, but.

No, I like her. But I don't know if you saw her. She says now. Her days, I'm all about. Yeah, her talk you know, but. No, I like it. But I don't know if you said it now. But she says it. Her days, I'm all about. Yeah, her talk was really good. I was actually really impressed. So what this woman did is she posted the same product in Europe or UK versus here.

So like, here's Fruit Loops here, here's Fruit Loops there, here's Cheetos here. And it's crazy how different our products are in terms of the ingredients. Like all the dyes and synthetic things that are banned in Europe that we have over here. And now, I just brought this up recently, California banned some of these food dyes

because of their connection to ADHD in children. Yeah. Well, I mean, we mentioned this, I think, in one of the last episodes we talked about this, and I asked you guys if you thought it was, you know, because I feel like it's insidious. I feel like this is like, because if you're already creating it for the UK, like why not just

make it in bulk and you know, that's the direction everyone's going, unless there's hidden motives behind why you're doing, because you know that a lot of those things make it more addictive. And so you're more like, Hey, let's, we're going to run this way as long as we can until we can't anymore, because we know that sales-wise. It'll drop. It will drop.

And so even though we know that UK already went this direction, eventually other countries will too. We're not going to completely shift the company in that direction. And I definitely don't think it's like, oh, this huge expensive thing. I think it's more that they know that a lot of those chemicals and a lot of those colorings and stuff like that

play more into the addictive properties of it and they're like, fuck it, we're gonna ride this thing till the wheels fall off. Yeah, I think it's interesting because like, yeah, that why they went and sort of presented this to Congress. I think it's an impactful moment. I think this needs to be addressed and I think that this should be a nonpartisan thing. Like everybody should get on board with it. It just sucks. It has to be like through, you know, one side of the fence and then it's already.

Okay. Yeah. RFK has really brought a lot of light to some of the stuff that was considered conspiracy or whatever. And he comes out with data and he makes a very compelling argument for a lot of the things that he says, and it's starting to bring things to the surface. Yeah. I mean, people just need to get on board and look this up and research it.

It's real, it's impactful. Even too, like I brought this up a long time ago, they call it like the Teflon Flu. And we've known that Teflon is something. The non-stick. The non-stick, you don't want to wash it a certain way to get that so you get it on your food and scratch it or whatever but

apparently like yeah if if if it does end up because of the age of it now like some of them are kind of older and so it's like flaking off in some people's food and they're getting all these like autoimmune issues and all these like you know the sickness it's and this is like like flu like symptoms they're getting from their Teflon pants I didn't even know what like an iron skillet was until I got into my late 20s, dude. My mom never cooked on an iron skillet, which is so wild to me because I cook everything on that now. Now I do.

Yeah. I think it's easier to clean. I think everything about it is like, why did we go the other way? Because cleaning iron skillets, there's a skill to it. It's not easy. Oh, I think it's easier. Do you think it's easier or harder? I think it's easier. It's like a's easier or harder? I think it's,

It's like chain mail. Yeah that's. But you gotta do that. Remember the non-stick you just like clean. You know what I'm saying? No I don't know I've always thought. That's why I thought it was interesting because I was like man this iron skill it's easy man.

I feel like it's easier to. You know iron skillets are good for women to use. Men's training women. Because they'll actually get a little bit of iron in their food for me. Yeah I mean we all do don't we? A little bit, that's what's happening. Well men, we gotta be careful.

Too much iron is not good. That's why it's good to give blood every once in a while because we don't menstruate. Yeah, also don't cook tomatoes in your food. Oh, the acidic. Anything with the acids. Why, because it makes more iron? Yeah, it leeches out the iron.

Oh. So if you get too much iron, that's not a good thing. Yeah, give blood. What else is like that, Doug? What else should I not cook in the iron skillet? The tomatoes, anything else that's got it? Yeah, anything me a lot of it. What else is like that, Doug? What else should I not cook in the iron skill? The tomatoes, anything else that's got it? Yeah, anything that's high in acids.

I'm trying to think of other things that would be classified as that, but tomatoes are the first thing that come to mind. That's good to know. Don't cook any lemons in there. I don't think I've ever cooked, yeah. I don't think I've ever done that, but that's interesting.

Don't cook any leg of it. What? What'd you say? I just did plastic. Dude, speaking of kids and stuff, my little girl was hanging out with her all day the other day. And when you play with little kids,

you let them do certain things. And we just gave her a bunch of stickers. And she thought it would be cool to just cover my legs in stickers, which I have hairy legs. So she's just one after another after, and I'm like, this is going to suck. This is really, it did. Bro, it sucked later.

You're patchy now or what? Oh, no, it was just, but later on, you know, she goes to bed and I'm like, I looked at my wife and I'm like, honey, I gotta take at least a sticker off. I start peeling them off from my leg. But she's funny, she starts saying I love you. She's now saying that and so I was trying to record her saying I love you, Papa.

So I'm like, I'm like, doll, you say I love you, Papa. And she looks at me and she goes, I love you, Mama. I'm like, no, no, no, I love you, Papa. And she Dalia, say I love you, Papa. And she looks at me and she goes, I love you, mama. I'm like, no, no, no, I love you, Papa. And she goes, no, I love you, mama. And I'm like, oh, what is happening here? Come on, say you love me. She's rebelling. Yeah, no, she loves mom.

She doesn't love me yet. Well, you were home with the kids, and you were off at, you know, mosh pitting. I was. Oh, bro. Alabama. Bro, the glasses are sick. You watched his videos, right?

Yeah, yeah. So he's going through, if you watch his videos on Instagram, people, listen, you gotta check it out. I could see people literally seeing Justin coming towards them and going, uh-oh. And then moving on. Moving on. What happened?

Dude. Yeah, I mean, I look at it like this, dude. Like one time a year, I have like a propensity for violence You know and it's like I just need to get it out and then I'm like super chill I'm like a very easygoing, you know cool guy to be around fine But like I you know, it's in there like I got to get it out. So this is my outlet where it's like Productive it's say there's rules, you know, like really it's about, I actually am drawn to violence as long as there's rules. Yeah, like that's fine.

Gentlemanly violence. Gentlemanly, yeah. Respectful, honorable. If this was 200 years ago, you'd be doing a duel. I mean, I guess that's the part I find so interesting to me because obviously you've explained this multiple times on the show, like that there is like boundaries and rules. I just don't, it doesn't make sense to me like going to a thing like that.

I get the energy, the rage of getting it all up, but then I feel like it would be really hard for me to rein in the like not want to get into a fight like somebody does it the wrong way a little bit or throws a little English on it like you know, size only time people get hurt is when the people that are unaware there's guys are trying to retaliate right? You know, they take a fence and did you knock anyone out of their shoes again? You do that last time? Well, okay So I guess there was one little bit of a retaliation or this guy Oh, so I was just like watching the concert and I was doing my own thing

In the sky decided he wanted to open the pit up and decided to like go full sprint Like through people and then he ended up like on my side. So he like ran and bulldozed and tried to bulldoze into me and then stopped. And I was like, like I, it hurt my back. And I was just like, you know, kind of stand. I look at the guy and I'll, and then he took off like in the, you know, like I was like, I memorized his face and his body and what he looked like. I will see you again. Yeah.

Record. Then I went right in the pit. And thankfully, I found him, you know, the second song and got to retaliate a little bit, leveled him a bit. But see, that's what I feel. I feel like that's what would happen, and then it just would escalate. And there's not a lot of fights, huh?

No, but it got out, and then I even picked him up, and we were over it. You knocked him down. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's a grown man. He's a grown man. He started it. Hey, I want to hear now that you said somebody came up behind.

So this is like a metal concert. You said someone came up behind you was rubbing your shoulders. Yeah. Okay. So this was like, what an extreme experience, right? One minute I'm about to brawl with somebody and then I was like, next time I'm getting a shoulder rub from a stranger. Kind of weird, bro. It's the, it's really hard for me to like, take you guys into this, like culture. It's like a subculture of like, yeah, like it's really hard for me. We're the more take you guys into this like culture. It's like a subculture of like

Like it's it's so unique because people are like They say this is like this is angry music for happy people is what they like to say right? So it's like It's a bit of a weird thing. It helps us psychologically somehow. So there's a lot of fucked up people there. Let's just be honest. Okay. Yeah, and I'm one of them.

I have demons. I have things I work through. But it's so eclectic because I thought initially there's a lot more people like me, like to lift weights, to get into the heavy music. This is kind of PR stuff. I get out a little bit of anger. Some people are just like, they're more emotional.

And so it's like, this is like a wild explosive expression. And so they do these ninja kicking, punching like crazy moves like in place. There's people that love the stage dive. They go up and they just, they have this weird like adrenaline rush just from jumping out and hoping for the best, you know? And dude, can I tell you how many people I saw eat absolute shit?

Like- Cause they just they died and nobody caught them? And nobody caught like this poor lady Gets down and we all just kind of stopped because it was I was just far enough to like oh no you know you have like this oh, this is not gonna go well and She gets up and she you could just tell she really like hurt herself. I went to go Yeah, and I'm like oh oh, she just starts walking off like, like tries not to like a moat at all. It's trying to like keep it. But dude, that had to hurt real bad.

Like she landed like straight on the concrete. It was like, but she loved it. And then I see somebody else even at the airport this before I left, like this guy, like he had like a bandage over his eye I'm like, oh my god This guy like did something crazy to his eye like like he might have lost his eye at this freakin festival I'm like, this is crazy Like it's so it yeah, it's it gets wild dude. We're not coming. Yeah. Yeah. I want to hear about the shoulder rub Oh, yeah the shoulder. So anyways

Yeah, I want to hear about the shoulder rub. Oh, yeah the shoulder rub. So anyways So I Don't know if this guy was a fan. I don't know if this guy was on Somali or I don't know Yeah, I don't know why you would choose that like good a rave or something but so I'm there with my three other friends and they're all kind of to the side and in front and so I'm there with my three other friends and they're all kind of to the side and in front and so I'm watching the show and this guy like behind me starts like like playing the drum beats like on your back. Yeah and

I'm just like yeah. Before you realize what's happening. Because I thought I was one of my friends, dude. I'm like, yeah. That's still kinda weird. I don't know. I don't know why you guys do that to me. I mean. Get off my back, bro. Whatever.

We're physical. Yeah, but yeah, so. So how long was he playing the drums on your back for? For a good, like, I don't know, 10 seconds. Like it's too long. Yeah, it's really long. Yeah, the bass ones that were like low, you know what I'm saying? One, two, three. You know, like it was...

Little blast beat in there. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Little low there, guy. So I turn around and the guy's looking at me and he's got this big smile on his face. He's like, yeah. He's like, big smile on his face. He's like He's a great man, and I was just like Yeah, yeah, I love this song and I just kind of turn over and he's just like all trying to like hang out and My friends are looking at me like oh And I'm like, I don't know what just happened, but He was like trying to kind of like I don't know if he was hitting on me

I don't know what I'm still confused about the whole thing. So if he was a fan Like you gotta like make eye contact Say hi like, you know Cuz like I was really creeped out by that one that one was one of them and then another one this guy comes up and he like just Doesn't say anything and he grabs my shoulder and he's just like, he's like, you got some boulder shoulders. What is happening?

What is happening? These concerts, dude. I don't know. There wasn't a lot of real muscular dudes. I mean, there's a lot of big guys, but they're all kind of mushy. And a lot of these guys are keyboard warriors or something. There's a lot of repressed dudes.

Did you go shirtless at all anytime? No, I had a tank top on You're showing the guns then I guess yeah, yeah, so yeah, so that was like on me I guess but you're asking for it Showing off he's gonna happen when you expose them pipe Yeah, let me touch first then say something like I just like it's not registering to me I don't do that. You know, like it's it's hey like you every time you've gone before now you run into listeners You run into that actually said that I'm a listener. They didn't just rub your shoulder doing anything weird, right? Yeah Yeah, yeah

No, I did it was after one one the the second days I was there and, uh, yeah, this guy, like the concert had ended and then he kind of looks up and he was like, dude, mind pump. And I'm like, yeah, yeah. I saw people taking pictures of you and circling your face in the crowd and stuff like that that recognize. Yeah. So yeah, good for you. It was cool. It was really fun, dude. It's, it's totally like a, a, a nostalgic throwback thing. And like everybody that's there gets it, obviously, because you don't want to be

there unless you really know what's going on. Like you're going to be like, dude, this is awful. Get me the hell out of here. Right. Like, so for me, it was like Disney. You always come back very chill, nice and Zen and just chill. Just right. Nice. Just right. Just right. That's because he lets it all build up for an entire year. Then it comes out for like a day. He's cool. Yeah. It's therapy, dude. It's therapy. That's awesome. You were in Seattle.

Where were you at? No, I went to Arizona. Oh, Arizona. Oh, you went to see a girl. Yeah. Oh, I didn't know that. I thought for some reason, I thought you were up in Seattle this trip. What did you guys do? Uh, so his parents weekend at the university. So yeah, uh, well it was parents' weekend at the university. Already? Yeah. Well, it's been a month and a half. God, it's already been a month and a half.

Yep. So we went down there, and she joined us sorority. So we went to a gala for that. And then we went to the ASU, what was it, Kansas game? I can't remember. But it was fun. It was hot. Very hot. Oh yeah. But it was even crazier where you were at. Oh yeah. Over a hundred for sure.

Yeah. So at five o'clock we went to the game and it was 103. Oh my God. So that's hot. Oh, that's hot. So what do you think of that? Do you like the sorority? Do you like the campus? I didn't go to the sorority. They had the event at a restaurant, but the campus is great. Actually ASU is the largest public university in the United States. Yeah. Oh, I didn't know that. Like 70,000 students there. Wow. So they have campuses downtown, they have campuses in Tempe. I think they have campuses elsewhere as well. And they're growing it very actively. I like Phoenix Scottsdale area. I like it over there. You know, Phoenix is a great city. I love it.

Scottsdale as well, of course. Lots of good restaurants and very clean, actually. At least the areas I was in. Did you keep it close to the chest, or did you tell her you've been crying yourself to sleep every night? I had to let her know. It's been hard on me.

Actually, leaving her this time was harder than the first time. Oh, interesting. Yeah. Even though I'm going to see her this weekend. But I think it's just because seeing her again and maybe the adult in her now doing her own thing. Kind of that. Yeah, she has her own life.

And some of the life I'm not so excited about, you know? But she's an adult, so she can choose what to do. But I think also, last time I was there, we were moving her in. And we were so busy. We're just you know shopping going to Costco, Target, all these different places and we didn't have a chance to let it sink in. But this time was harder for sure. Yeah. But it was a good time. Great weekend. What is, Sal you probably know studies on this. is there's something about the age of like

18 to 25 ish or something like that where kids just kind of like I think we all probably did this right like did you guys Like you hit that you you're now old enough You're an adult making our decisions and then all of a sudden you like even if you have a good relationship with your parents you still kind of like Branch off one of your thing and it seems to be like around 30 when you kind of come back well I realized like all the things they made you do that was so strict or the stuff you were so angry about, like you've kind of- Well, the brain isn't matured fully until you're 25, right around 25. So the frontal lobe, the executive functioning part of the brain is still underdeveloped in an adult,

you know, 18, 19, 20, 21 year old, 22 year old. So you have all the responsibility and freedom of an adult, but you still have a kid's mind. This is why you look back at some of the dumb stuff that you've done or crazy things. It's right in that age group, right in that age group. You do that stuff and then you hit 25, start to get late 20s, 30s, you start to change a little bit.

There's arguments for changing the legal age for lots of things to 20 to 25 because of that. Because you're just like a kid. Just like a kid. I always wonder if that would be the answer or the opposite where there's like no age limit where it's just like you let the parents parent and there's less of a big deal around.

Do you think if we went like some countries where there's like no drinking age and stuff like that that anybody can do, it's not a big deal. Or do you think raising the restriction and pushing out? They're both. The culture plays a big role. Like that's less binge drinking in Europe because wine is accepted. Yeah.

Parents let you have it when you're a kid at dinner. And it's like, this is where I remember as a kid, like it was such a big deal, like, oh, to get it because you're not supposed to do it. Whereas maybe if we could, I mean, I watched that play out. So we had one of my best friends in school. He had parents. He was a 4.2 GPA kid, athlete, just good, good kid. And his parents were the parents that we were allowed to drink at their house.

The rule was just, we get the keys, they get the keys, you can't leave. But they would let us drink whatever we wanted and party and stuff like that. And we never did. And he never cared to. Like it was just like because it was- The taboo wasn't there.

Yeah, it was just like, he was like, nah, I don't really feel like it. Throwing air out of him. Yeah, and now I remember all of us who had really strict parents were just like always, come on Kenny, let's throw a party this weekend. Yeah. I got a midterm coming up and I don't know,

it was like, come on dude. So he was like that and I always attribute that probably because his parents didn't make it to be that big of a deal and so it wasn't that big of a deal for him to pass on it all the time. So it's interesting. I'm gonna ask you about your injury. We haven't talked for a little while.

How's your injury doing? What are you doing to work on it? Progress, yes, stability wise. Your body's changing rapidly, very, very rapidly. It's visible. I'm interested in your pec injury. Yeah, it's a pain in the ass, just being honest, and very frustrating.

I have days where I feel like I'm making really good progress, then I have other days where I feel like I've set back. Really, what I feel now is actually getting to the ability to articulate my scapula through its full range. That's right now the most challenging thing. And I think it's fine because I don't feel we're on that limited as much, but I know that it's what causes the shoulder pain to come back here and there. The pec still is, now what I feel like I'm dealing with is a lot of scar tissue.

And it's interesting going through this right now with Katrina too, looking back. So I haven't been this committed to tracking to tracking and not since I was like competing, not like at this level where I'm like committed, committed, right? And one of the things that I'm looking back and probably didn't realize and didn't give enough credit to her and the role that she played in the success of that journey of becoming a pro men's physique guy. And that was the, at that time in our relationship, we didn't have a son, and she was massaging me like every night.

And you know, like I guess when you get it, like every single night, you don't think of a big deal, like it's that big of a deal, until you don't. And I see now like how much that accelerates the recovery on so much of what I'm doing. And so she's been now getting the hot stones out and breaking that scar tissue up. And the first two times, it felt like it didn't do anything.

It felt good while she was doing it, but it felt so weird. When she would rub on it, I could feel this ball of tissue moving around. It just felt weird. It felt so weird. Like when she would rub on it, I could like fill this ball of tissue moving around. It just felt weird. Felt really weird and uncomfortable. But it's still kind of like, OK, we got to go through this. Then about the third session, and she felt it.

She's just like, oh, I feel like it's dissipating a little bit. And she started to break it up. And then I would feel the instant kind of relief and movement. And so it's gone way down. There's still a little bit there and I feel that getting better. I'm still really timid to directly load

and hit the chest hard. What I'm doing now, and I've been sharing this on the whole series, is trigger sessions with bands, occasional isometric stuff with the cables for the like flies. And then like yesterday we filmed and I switched the program to I moved from a kind of Maps 15 protocol to a upper lower split now. And when I went to the upper split I'm now I did like a instead of doing like a military shoulder press I did

like it somewhere between a real high incline. Yes and I did that a, instead of doing like a military shoulder press, I did like somewhere between like a real high incline. Yes. And I did that for like 10 sets. And I was explaining to the audience that what I was doing was, you know, I'm thinking like four sets of this is contributing to the shoulders, four sets of this is contributing to like, and so like the volume that would have went to the chest that I'm not going to do, I'm going to add in the shoulder area.

And I know that I'm recruiting some of the upper pec in that movement. So I'm trying to do things to not allow the chest to atrophy anymore. So that's hence the trigger sessions, hence doing shoulder movements that I know incorporate the chest a little bit. And so I'm kind of doing that now, still staying away from- Now you're using the peptide still, are you doing red light therapy, are you doing cold therapy, are you doing... So I just actually stopped, and the only reason why I stopped the peptides is because I ran

out. So I need more. I need more of the BPC 157 or whatever the new formulation. Yeah, yeah. There's a PentaDECA overnight, but it's BPC. Yeah. So I'm actually, the only reason why I stopped was because I'm out of that. And so I'm waiting for that to come in. I am doing the juve, like really, which is interesting because I've always used the juve for psoriasis and skin stuff for me, this for the recovery thing. And I think what really made me do it was I actually wasn't doing it for the injury at first.

But I was doing it because I was overreaching on like training and I realized like, wow, I noticed a difference. Like how much faster I recovered from that. And so I've been pretty consistent with making sure I'm doing that twice a day for like 10, 15 minute sessions. Oh, wow. Uh, we're putting it on real close. Yeah. Yeah. So I just sit and sit in front of the, the, the jubilee and let it hit there. You know, so it's, it's one of those things that it's like, uh, it's so hard to measure and tell, but I know that it works because I've seen it work in

different things and I'm like, okay, I just need to be consistent with doing that. The studies on red light therapy and inflammation and healing are pretty conclusive. It definitely helps, for sure. It's very, very... It's just a weird thing because it's not, you know, it's working on like a cellular level, so it's not like you're... You're not moving, you're not exercising it, you're just sitting there with this light on. Which is probably why a lot of people feel like weird about it, or oh, is this really-

There's tons of data on it. Yeah, tons of data on it. Speaking of skin, by the way, we're supposed to talk about Eterna. They have this skincare product, so this is from Dr. Khan and his team, and this is a skincare product that has stem cells. So this is one of the only things you can get on the market

with actual stem cells. Like once you mix it up, you have to refrigerate it to keep those stem cells alive essentially, and then you have to use it within 30 days. You've been using it, Katrina swears by it. Well, that's how I, so the way I started using it was I actually made a comment to her, because I know she's tried all the different stuff

that we've had, and I had just made a comment to her a few weeks back, and I'm like, hey, what's up with your skin? I noticed your face looks really good, so that, and then she told me that she's like, oh, and then she started putting it on me, so I wasn't using it at first. I didn't, of course, with all the stuff that we get sometimes get sometimes since it's like it's hard to be consistent with everything we have And but I she was like she adopted it right away and she's like no that's she's like I've been using every night

So then she started putting it on my face. I really like the way it feels afterwards So I'll do it after a shower at night and just the way it feels like it hydrates my skin Yeah, it feels so it's got stem cells and growth factors in there to promote the growth of those stem cells, which then go to where they're supposed to, to create that rejuvenating process. I mean, stem cells are legit. They really do work, but until now,

I don't think of there's any topical product. I've never heard of anything. They use nanotechnology too. It gets through the skin, so it doesn't just sit on the skin. A lot of products, you'll just put them on and it just sits on top of the skin. This actually gets into the skin. So it doesn't just sit on the skin. A lot of products, you'll just put them on and it just sits on top of the skin. This actually gets into the skin and the deeper layers

and delivers the stem cells. So if it's doing that, I'm assuming then that's probably the best time for me to take it, is after like a hot shower. It probably opens up the pores that gets in. And then they have one for the scalp. They have one for the scalp that helps with, because you can use stem cells to help regrow hair.

People have been doing that for a long time. It typically involves injections and all that stuff. They have one for the scalp that uses the same nanotechnology gets the, I mean they broke it down for us. I'm like, oh this is remarkable. I wish I cared enough about that. I don't really give a shit. Everyone always asks me that.

We have so many products that like, imagine that paired with the Juve, like I'm sure would be amazing. Oh yeah, I was just gonna say. Yeah, it's probably amazing, but. Because what I would do is I would, you put it on, wait for it to get in and whatever, then use the Juve, because the red light.

I wonder if it's because I never really liked my hair in the first place. Yeah, I have so many friends that are trying to hold on, dude. That's why I don't give a fuck. Yeah, no, I have a lot of friends that are like, they message me all the time. Oh, and you never liked your hair? Yeah, I never really liked my hair.

Never? Why? Because it was like, kind of nappy and curly. It was a wavy time. Oh, and you never liked your hair? Yeah, I never really liked my hair. Never? Why? Because it was like kind of nappy and curly. It was a wavy scene. Did you have really curly hair? Yeah, yeah. Well, when you met me, it was starting to thin. So.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. So as a young kid, it was very, very thick and curly, and I had a cowlick, and it was just hard to do anything with it. Is that why? That's why I'm so, I'm fashion myself. Did you have Justin Timberlake hair? Is that what it was, where you did the tip?

He's got great hair. He looks like ramen. He's got great hair. He looks like ramen. He's got great hair. I mean, I'm so into my son's hair because he has different hair than me. How's his hair? I'm trying to think.

It just, it lays any way I can do any style, which I couldn't do that. As a kid, there would be trendy styles with hair, and I'd always go tell my barber or whatever to cut it, and then in mine would look fucked up. Just didn't look good. Just because I didn't have. I ended up using that Murray's, it's like wax.

The paste stuff. Just to get it to move the way I wanted. That was annoying. It was called glue, do you guys remember that? Yeah, yeah. Yellow bottle. It was called glue. And it was wind tunnel tested.

That's what it said on the bottle. Yeah. And I put it in my hair. Oh my shit didn't move, dude. Oh bro, it was a helmet. If I fell. There was a period of time when young boys were doing that kind of gel on their hair that that was the test of like, what is the strongest? Oh, you wanted something that like. Like I had buddies that would be like, yeah, I did this yesterday. I slept and this is what it looks like. You know what I'm saying? Like, whoa, bro, that's give me some of that. I used to have so much hair that when I'd wake up

in the morning and I'd walk, I'd feel it move. Yeah. Which is why I still have hair. I've lost a lot of hair. The reason why I still have hair is I had so much. So I had a nice, it was like a reverse dye. It's the only reason why, it's the only thing that I think why I don't care.

Like I just, because I have a lot of buddies, obviously now that we're in our mid- know mid 40s that you know reach out They're like, hey, you know, I heard you talking about the juve thing and I heard you talk about this thing It's like dude what works with that Mike, you know, honestly like it's got all kinds of research But I don't do it consistently for that. I just don't care you do it for psoriasis and for yeah Yeah, that's stuff. I care about. Yeah, I definitely care about all that like recovery psoriasis skin skin stuff I think that stuff maybe maybe that's what it is Maybe I had more insecurities around the skin and that stuff.

And so that drives me to want to do that more. Where the hair, I used to shave my head when I had good hair. So I'm just like, whatever about it. If you're Jack, and you lose your hair, you're OK. It's if you're not Jack. That's what I'm thinking. I'm actually Joe. I would totally shave my head, but I just

would end up looking like an angry nationalist or something. I can't pull that off, dude. White supremacist guys, look at that mustache dude. Oh I know I'd have to get rid of it. Mustache and a bald head. Or a cop bro. Look at that cop. Nah I can't pull that off. No no grow it out long bro. No you have gray hair. Yours is beautiful. Yeah you have gray hair. Look at that. Oh my at that, oh my God. You could clean a cast iron pan with that. I actually get really mad at you that you wear a hat as much as you wear a hat. I was like, if I had hair like that,

I would do it every day. He just doesn't like combing his hair, bro. Yeah, I'm lazy. It's gray hair though, dude. You should rock that. I like wearing hats. Do that more often, for sure. Shout out?

Did we, did I shout out Dr. Lauren? Have I shouted her out? If you haven't, do it again. I don't think I have. She's awesome. Yeah, did I shout out, uh, Dr. Lauren? Have I shot her? If you haven't do it again. I don't think, I don't think I have. She's awesome. Yeah, I wanted to do that because, and I'm glad they played out the way it did. So we invited her on the GLP one group today and I had been talking back and forth with her for a while now. That was the first time you really had had a chance to communicate with her. I like her. Yeah, and I know you guys would. She's Dr. Lauren Fitz on Instagram. She's really good. Oh, she's great. So she was an anesthesiologist, like legit medical doctor, who left conventional medicine because she got super jaded. And so now she does functional medicine.

And you know, no shade to chiropractors, but oftentimes you'll see functional medicine practitioners come from that space. Rarely do you see like a medical, like a medical MD come from, and then go to functional medicine. So she's got all that background plus functional medicine. And so she's amazing when it comes to like things

like peptides, GLP-1, and just overall health. Very knowledgeable. She's also got a story too. I think she went to perimenopause at a very young age too, so she kind of has her own journey that led her that direction too. And so, yeah, no, she's incredible. Incredible content, great communicator,

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Pull up, push up, and squat. Yeah, or isometrics. I mean, isometrics are really, really effective at maintaining muscle mass, especially in a short period of time. And you could do isometrics with nothing. I mean, just hold a position. It's unsexy, but yeah, it is pretty effective.

It creates tension, especially if you can get a way to do overcoming isometrics, where you're pushing against an immovable object or something like that. Otherwise, I mean, what Adam said, that's always the game changer. Find a place you can do a pull-up, do some push-ups, do some slow bodyweight squats. What you need to do to maintain muscle is very little.

Well, combining both your answers together, I mean it's really it's like the tempo of it and you know having those holds at the most difficult portion of the rep you know can make it a lot more impactful for intensity and like kind of more bang for your buck that way. Now I will say this the kind of person that tends to ask this question, probably the person who can take the time off, is probably the person that will benefit from not exercising on their vacation. When you look at the data on deload weeks, right?

So a deload week is either you take time off, that's the old school way of doing it, or you do a dramatically reduced intensity and volume. You see tremendous gains in strength and performance following a deload week with people who train very consistently. And so if you're the kind of person that's like, hey, how do I not lose muscle on this 10 day vacation?

You're probably the person that never misses workouts, probably overdo it all the time. And taking that time off is probably a good idea. Then you get back to the gym, and here's how you know this is you. You go back to the gym, you're stronger. Within two or three workouts, like, well, I'm stronger than I was before, it's because you needed the time off.

That's what happens to me every time I take time off. Yeah, I'm just, you know, I think I get where this comes from, and I know that for sure I would fall in this category in my 20s of like asking these types of questions where it's very, very rare that I train on vacation. I just don't think that's vacation. Maybe that's because this is my field too,

or it just feels like work to me. It's too much work. It's like I wanna not think about that type of stuff. Now what I will do, and this is also about having a partner that's into this type of stuff too. And I think these guys are all very similar, especially Justin and Courtney. I know they're like this.

We'll go out and go do a lot of physical active things. So sure, I'm not squatting and deadlifting, but I also don't normally go on five-mile hikes where I would do that on vacation because we're going to go look at scenery or we're going to go see something beautiful. To me, that's the type of things that we choose to do on vacation instead of're going to go look at scenery or we're going to go see something beautiful. Like, uh, to me, that's the type of things that we, we choose to do on vacation instead of just like laying around, which cause, but I can also be

the person who just does room service and puts his feet up by the pool 24 seven. So it really depends on what I feel like doing. And I used to work out on vacations cause of the fear of losing gains. And then it turned into, I like starting my day off this way if I can. If not, it's not a big deal, but to start off my day because it starts off in a good mood and because I think, and call me, I know I'm a weirdo, but I love working out in different places.

I like hotel gyms, I like different pieces of equipment. Maybe, I think it would be, it's lost some of its luster now that I work out in a commercial gym because for years I just worked out and I just used a squat rack, bar dumbbells and that was it. So it was always to me something cool like oh I get to go use machine because hotel gyms almost never have freeways but they always have machines. But you know again if you're this person who never misses workouts probably the best thing you could do for your muscles is not work out while you're on vacations.

Probably get even better gains than working out. Next question is from Papa Schmop 121. Just names. What does cardio look like to increase endurance without compromising muscle? I know it's terrible for fat loss, but how do you go about it just to be in good cardiovascular shape for real world situations?

You see someone talking shit about me on the YouTube? No. Yeah, yeah. What'd they say? No, I mean, because the mic is on me, right? 24-7. And this is the beginning. How do you think my fucking 15 squats sounds like?

Oh! Sounds like I just ran. I did see that. Yeah, and of course, we're going to get people who know that we talk about not doing cardio when you're trying to build and sculptivist. Like the squats you're doing isn't going to help build. Well, and this is why I brought that up,

was because this is what's so funny to me, is this like, of course somebody may say, this is probably why these guys don't, they should probably do some cardio sounding the way he sounds right now when he's doing squats. It's like, yeah, absolutely. You literally just told people

you didn't work out at all for two. I know, and if you compare that exact video to the one that I just shot yesterday, and I'm moving three times the weight for just as many reps, and I'm like, I'm moving. Like it's already building. And so I just think that I'm always going to exhaust that way of building cardiovascular endurance before I go get on a treadmill or go for a run. Even if my goal is that I want to build

some cardiovascular endurance, I'm still not gonna go get on a treadmill for 30 minutes and go for a run. I'm more likely to adjust my programming to make that really challenging. I'll tell you right now, you do some exercises like squats or lunges and you superset it with something else

or you cut rest periods to one minute and you got to have some serious cardiovascular endurance to power through a 15 minute workout. If you train with any kind of intensity. Yes, right. Yeah, the question is how do you increase endurance without compromising muscle? So that's the kicker here. How do I get endurance without compromising muscle? Increase your activity, overall activity.

What you do is you pick a form of cardio that's more like strength training, if that's what you want. So sprinting, hit, that's gonna give you endurance, but it's more like strength training than traditional cardio. Or you do sets of 25 or 30 reps with a barbell squat and then see what happens.

Or 25 reps on other full body kind of strength training. That's what's so important about this question is the way it's worded is the way we communicate most of the time. That's my goal too. Right now my goal is not to prove to some internet troll that I can beat him in the mile. If that was my goal, then I would be running a mile

and building that endurance fast and good. But my goal is to, can I build muscle and lean out simultaneously? Can I hover at that sweet spot of continuing to change my physique while also improving all these other, absolutely I can. And it's not by getting on a treadmill and running. If that was the goal, then that's what I would do.

But this is what we get asked most of the time, which is, I want to build some cardiovascular endurance, but I care more about my physique and I want to build muscle, and so is there a way to do it? Well, yeah, then the answer is to do it through lifting weights. Be surprised how much endurance you can build just by doing that.

Next question is from Tala K. Hader. What's your take on Pilates? Cute. Yeah, so, Pilates is, I mean, it's activity, so it's movement. If applied appropriately, it's gonna improve your health, it's going to improve some of your mobility and stability. If you like it and you do it right,

there's nothing wrong with it. Now, if you have a specific goal, then I can give you a better answer, right? So if your goal is, I wanna build maximum endurance, then don't do Pilates. If your goal is, I wanna build a really sculpted physique, then I'm gonna say, then pick something else because don't do Pilates. If your goal is I want to build a really sculpted physique then I'm gonna say then then pick something else because it's not Pilates. In terms of the adaptations that induces in the body I mean they're very short ranges of motion you're gonna increase stability in the

ranges of motion that you train in. I mean Pilates was originally invented to help dancers but I think was ballet dancers in particular. It got really popular because, uh, when people, because Pilates came from the ballet world, you had a lot of women that said, Oh, I want to look like a ballerina. I want to look like a ballerina. So maybe that's what I should do. And they had brilliant marketing. Pilates said things like don't build bulky muscles,

build long, lean muscles. Which is, it's false, it's false advertising. Your muscles build or they shrink. That's it. You don't build long, lean muscles, you just build muscle. If you have long muscles, because you have long muscle attachments, if you're lean, it's because you're lean.

If you want a sculpted physique, strength training will get you there way faster with less work than Pilates. But just as a form of activity, if you like it, and it's appropriate. This is a simpler way that I say this to my clients that ask this question. If you are doing two to three times a week of full body weight training,

and you like to do Pilates in addition to that, I love it. If Pilates is taking the place of two or three of those days that you could be strength training, get rid of it. It's that simple. Unless you just love it. Well, I mean, yeah, okay, if you just absolutely love it. But most people are asking this question because they're trying to pursue some sort of goal. They want to know what we think about it towards whatever goal said goal is. And unless your goal is getting good at Pilates, that's the only reason why I would encourage it to ever replace

three days a week of strength training. If you to ever replace three days a week of strength training if you're not training three days A week of strength training and Pilates is taking one of those three days. You're losing Okay, you would be winning way more by doing an extra day of the strength training than doing Pilates if you already do Three days of full-body strength training and then you know once or twice a week you love to go to Pilates Hell yeah, keep doing especially if you like it. Love it, keep going. It's like another form, it'd be like me telling somebody who loves to go for hikes on Saturday to stop hiking on Saturday.

But I would do, if someone said, Adam, I'm only gonna do something once a week. Should I go do a long hike for two hours or should I strength train? I'm gonna tell them to strength train. You're gonna get way more bang for your buck by doing that in all pursuits of health, by doing that. But in addition to, then yeah, I love Pilates.

Do you guys remember when we did that class? There was that woman that wanted us to take a Pilates class. And then you could tell she was Pilates. It was Pilates. It was like a Pilates class. But it was without the reformer, right? So it was Pilates without the reformer. It was bar. That's what it's called. Bar, bar, bar. So it was like a branch off of it, right? And I remember, I mean, you could tell-

You're just going to piss off all these bar ladies now. Whatever, she looked at us. Just not Pilates now. No, it wasn't, sorry. Fine, it was bar. But she looked at us and thought, and you could tell she was like, oh, I'm gonna break these guys.

Yeah, she was an agent. And she tried to. Hey, she did, all right. She tried to break them out. Lateral lunging and drumming sticks. No, no, we didn't do that. What the fuck am I doing? We did that class at that place. Oh my God. I know, that was hilarious. She did, she broke us off. This is interesting. Yeah. No, no, we didn't do that. What the fuck am I doing? We did that in that class at that place.

Oh my God. I thought that was hilarious. She did. She broke us off. This is interesting. Good for you. I'll come strength train with me. I'll do the same thing with you.

But you know what I'm getting at with that is that the physical attributes that you develop, the performance attributes you develop are relatively specific to what you do. So if you're really good at strength training and you go do pull-ups, it's gonna be hard, and vice versa, but in terms of just results, longevity, mobility, strengthening your bones, like hormone balance, I mean, you name it. If you're indifferent to what form of exercise, then strength training

is the best one. So for future questions that people send in, you need to finish the sentence. Tell us what your goal is. What is your take on Pilates for, and then say your goal, or whatever it is that you're trying to acquire from doing Pilates, then we can really answer this question,

but if you just ask me, generally speaking, what do I think of Pilates, what do I think of yoga, what do I think of speaking, what are the applaudes, what I think of yoga, what I think of swimming, what do I think of, they're all good. They're all forms of activity and movement that are, are beneficial for the body, but it context matters so much when talking about all these different modalities and what is that modality

replacing or is it in addition to the things that we think are foundational that you should be doing? And the other thing too that just, you just reminded me, Justin, so much of our industry, it becomes this new fad, weird, yes, entertainment form of exercise, which is a terrible, it just doesn't work at getting people

to be consistent long term, it just doesn't. That's why there's so many fads. Like there was one class I saw got popular, it was these shoes that had these little springs on them and they're just doesn't. And that's why there's so many fads. Like there was one class I saw got popular. It was, there's these shoes that had like these little springs on them and they're just bouncing around. There's another one where you're hanging from silks and you're swinging, doing different.

And they just, they invent these things to create this kind of fun entertainment form. Trick all you Karens. But it's not, but it's not. And you're here to trick all these Karens all day. Oh, I can get your Starbucks. Get your hair done. What's the helping. You're tricking all these carons all day. Oh. Get your Starbucks and get your hair done. What's the version for men for that kind of stuff? Are these men retreats?

Would you say men retreats are like the version? Ooh, that's a good one. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. All the masculine retreats. Yeah, just yelling each other's face. Just like yell, like, ooh. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's the same.

It's probably the same, yeah. I'd say that's a pretty good comparison. Yeah. Next question is from Bridal's and Barbell's. What are your thoughts on California banning artificial food dyes? You know, here's the deal. Uh, I am, I, I, I typically don't like

regulations around choices for adults. Here's why I support this, by the way, California, it's like a broken clock. They're, they're, they're going to be right sometimes because a lot of things that we ban here are just ridiculous. But food dyes, I think the people that are going to be impacted the most with this are children.

And I think that's a good thing. Look at the foods that are advertised to children versus the ones that are advertised to adults. Now the vast majority of these processed foods are bad across the board, but the kids ones are the worst. Kids ones are the absolute worst. And they're filled with all these food dyes and preservatives and additives that we're now realizing have an impact on a child's behavior

on how their brains function. We now know there's some connection to hyperactivity, which by the way, you know, you think, oh, what's the big deal? Your kid's hyperactive. Well, that means there's something happening to their brain. There's something happening to their brain that's making them feel or act in a particular way.

So I'm in support of regulations around children's foods, the foods that are marketed to kids and what we give to children, because I think that's just not fair. I think it's moot. I'd say this doesn't matter. I don't think it's moot. I'd say this is this doesn't matter. I just I don't think it's gonna move the needle in any way. It's probably California's way of virtue signaling in a way. I don't think it's it's gonna do

anything. It's still at the end of the day as parents it's our responsibility to parent our kids and to teach them good values around food and nutrition and exercise and banning something, uh, that you can no longer sell in a grocery store. It's not going to solve that. You know, the same parent that probably doesn't give two shits or understand anything about food dyes is also feeding their kid cupcakes for breakfast, lunch and dinner. So what the fuck does it matter? I don't think it's going to solve anything. I think it's just, it's a massive,

or there's something else, there's some political game that is being played you don't even know behind the scenes. It's a power move to fuck some company over who didn't contribute to somebody's campaign. It has nothing to do with caring about people. You know, it could be, but I'll tell you the downstream effects. California is such a big market that if you're a food, if you manufacture Cheetos and you're like,

great, now we can't sell our Cheeto formula to California, you're probably going to change it for the rest of the country because we're such a big market that it's probably going to influence unless it gets overturned somehow, it's probably going to influence the rest of the market. This is the California like, you know, like what, what are, what are we doing here to benefit? It's like, I don't know, this is tough. It probably is, I agree, I think it's a little bit of virtue signaling.

Yeah. It's either that or I literally think there's probably political bullshit that's a game being played. You know what this is gonna do, the positive, that I think, it's just bringing more awareness. That's what I think. Because 10 years ago, if you said red dye number 40 and yellow dye number whatever is making my kid act weird,

they would laugh at you. They'd laugh at you. Yeah, that's fair, I'll take that. I'll take that, that's probably the biggest positive from this is that there's a massive amount of people that are completely clueless about that or are gonna raise an eyebrow and go, whoa, artificial food dyes are bad?

I didn't know that, that's interesting. We banned it, it must be bad, so maybe that. You know, and here's the deal too, like a lot of parents need help from the culture and it's unfortunate, but it's true. You're right, I think it's a parent's responsibility. A lot of parents out there, they're just, they're screwed. They got no time, they got no time, they got no,

and so they just leave it up to the public schools, they leave it up to government, and so will it, can it help? I don't know how much of an impact this will have, but I think if we stopped advertising garbage to kids or just advertising kids in general, I think that should be banned. Don't advertise anybody who's not an adult. I think that would have a massive. Pharmaceuticals. Yeah. Yeah. That's a big. You guys heard that study at a, at a, that was at Marine County that came out a while ago.

It was the first study they ever saw where autism rates dropped. Yeah. Really? Oh yeah. Yeah, I talked about that in a previous episode. You did say that. Yup, yup. So anyway, look, if you love the show, come find us on Instagram. You can find Justin at Mind Pump.

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