Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 2503: If You Always Workout the Same Way You’re Killing Your Gains (Listener Coaching)

Episode Date: January 3, 2025

In this episode of Quah (Q & A), Sal, Adam & Justin answer four Pump Head questions drawn from last Sunday’s Quah post on the @mindpumpmedia Instagram page.  Mind Pump Fit Tip: If you workout the same way all the time you’re killing your gains…it’s not always about changing exercises. (1:45) The fascination with probiotic/microbiome research. (15:09) Going down the AI rabbit hole. (22:34) Cat Debacle: Part II. (26:48) Car experience fails. (31:48) Sal’s garage workout with his son. (33:49) Sunrise to sunset bundle. (35:09) Drug tales with Mind Pump. (39:19) Healthy meals for your family and kids. (50:20) Shout out to @this.is.michael2024! (51:41) #Quah question #1 – How do you navigate the new year/new me hype? (54:44) #Quah question #2 – Are there any acupuncture benefits related to muscle building or fat loss? (1:02:01) #Quah question #3 – Thoughts on assisted stretching labs? Is it worth it? (1:07:39) #Quah question #4 – Do you think BPC-157 would work for an older bicep tendon injury? (1:11:32) Related Links/Products Mentioned Visit Organifi for the exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! ** New year Sunrise to Sunset bundle - 25% off & free shipping code MINDPUMP at checkout ** Visit Butcher Box for this month’s exclusive Mind Pump offer!  ** New users will receive their choice between chicken breast, ground beef, or salmon in every box for a year + use code MINDPUMP and get $20 off your first box. ** January Promotion: New Year's Resolutions Special Offers (New to Weightlifting Bundle | Body Transformation Bundle | New Year Extreme Intensity Bundle | Body Transformation Bundle 2.0  ** Savings up to $350! ** Why Your Tempo Matters When You Workout! – Mind Pump TV Mind Pump #1867: Ten Advanced Next-Level Workout Techniques Super Slow Zone Fact-Checking The 4 Most Popular Akkermansia Claims Visit Transcend for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! Barbarian Warriors May Have Fought The Romans While High On Drugs Visit Luminose by Entera for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! ** Promo code MPM at checkout for 10% off their order or 10% off their first month of a subscribe-and-save. ** Mind Pump #1462: Setting New Year’s Resolutions That Actually Work Mind Pump #2125: Heal Like Wolverine: BPC 157 with Dr. William Seeds Mind Pump Podcast – YouTube Mind Pump Free Resources People Mentioned Dr. Michael Ruscio, DC- Gut Health (@drrusciodc) Instagram Michael Farrell (@this.is.michael2024) Instagram  

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is something very important that triggers new muscle growth and helps the fat loss, but there's right way and a wrong way to do it, and we're going to talk about some of the best ways. Let's do it. Yeah, yeah. Change it up. You know, when we talk about novelty, I think people immediately think of changing exercises. And although that is true, uh, that changing an exercise is novel. I think there are better ways of, uh, improving novelty with your workouts, especially when it comes to certain exercises, like a squat, a deadlift, overhead press row, like things that are foundational

and fundamental that you don't necessarily want to stop doing. There are other ways to add novelty without having to change your exercises, without having to change anything, aside from a few key things. So in other words, your workout looks the same, but there's a few things you can change. Not only that, but, and I like where you're going,

because I actually think that your advanced lifters, someone who's been lifting for years, most of them have already done the novel exercise thing. In other words, they've already changed exercises up. So I like going different directions. I remember as a trainer, when I would get a client that was experienced, right, and they had a pretty good

grasp of lifting, they had rotated through many exercises and knew the importance of, you know, the basics, let's say, that we talk about a lot. One of my favorite go-tos was to mess with tempo. Yeah, rep speed. Yes, because it just seemed to be one of those things that nobody really played close attention, unless you were a very specific, like Olympic lifter or

somebody who's training for something very specific, the average gym goer who's trying to build muscle, lose body fat, be healthy. They don't pay attention to that. They just don't really pay attention to it. Everybody just kind of goes. And I remember going through my schooling on, you know, the exercise tempos. And when I looked at what the tempo was for hypertrophy 422, I looked around and went,

nobody does that. Explain 422 for somebody listening. So it will be four seconds on the negative, so let's use a bench press. So four seconds on the way down, two seconds in the isometric, so at the very bottom, and then two seconds on the way back up. So 422, yeah, so it'd be like this, one, two, three, four, one, two, one, two, nobody.

Nobody's bench tempo looks like that, yet that is the protocol for hypertrophy training which is building muscle which most everybody that is lifting weights is trying to achieve unless you have a very sport specific reason why you're in there lifting weights and in that case you might you know tend to gravitate towards a one-one-one explosive type movements but the average person just doesn't do that and that was the type of client you might tend to gravitate towards a one, one, one explosive type movements. But the average person just doesn't do that.

And that was the type of client that I got. I got a client who was trying to build more muscle or lose more body fat or whatever the case may be. And they're, oh, I've done this, Adam, and I've trained this and I've trained these exercises. And I go, okay, well, when was the last time you did a strict 422 protocol? And they'd be like, huh, what do you mean?

And I'd be like, all right, well, let me show you the tempo. And it would destroy them. And all the weights that they were used to using for all the exercises, we had to dramatically reduce because they had never trained in a tempo like that. Yeah, I love doing that because, especially messing with tempo, because you can still keep a lot of those staple exercises

that are your foundational exercise. You don't want to stray too far from them because it's going to move the needle for you the most. This is really where all of the gains in the strength come from is like a few of these compound lifts. And so to just tweak the tempo of that. And to your other point of that is like, let's do an explosive set. If you've only done super slow, you know, to, to shake it up, you can totally do

that and get fast Twitch response, which provides a whole new stimulus. And so that's just one variable. That's one variable we just messed with. And it's pretty much the same programming that you have in front of you. But now you just tweak that. That's why I like it. I like it the most. Uh, yes, it's effective.

Yes. It produces gains. Yes. There are so many different ways to change the rep speed, which means you have at your disposal five or six different ways to add novelty, where you could go slow, slower, super slow, or fast, faster, super fast, for example.

But I like it primarily because it's an easy change. If you have a workout, a plan, you have an exercise order that you like, changing exercise, uh, exercises, changing workout programming is more complex. There's more thought that needs to go into it. Although a lot of people don't necessarily understand that people who are, you know, strength and conditioning coaches and trainers understand like organizing exercises is one of the more complex, uh, parts of workout

programming. And if you do it wrong, you could really take away from your progress, potentially increase your risk of injury. It's not a bad thing to do, but you got to know more about workout programming to change exercises than you do to change rep speed. Rep speed, if you're doing a workout plan, you like your exercise order and you're like, you know what? I want to change something up to get my body to progress again. Change nothing but rep speed.

You don't have to change your exercises at all. You can make the squat that you do every single week that you've been doing for the last six months, a different exercise by going slower or by going faster or by pausing. That's the next one. A lot of people don't pause their reps. Pause reps are exceptional. This is one of my favorite ways to get through

a sticking point with an exercise. So think of an exercise that you do, think of the point of the rep that you tend to fail at. So it may be at the bottom of a bench press or near the top at lockout, or an overhead press at the top or at the bottom or a squat or whatever, halfway up. Wherever that sticking point is, pause your reps right there, hold it for five seconds or 10

seconds, then complete the rep. You've just added a wonderful part of novelty. Your body will start progressing and then you'll get stronger in the place that you're weak at and change the dynamic of the exercise. I love doing that. Taking the weight down just a bit, you know, really focusing on pausing, but now what we're doing is we're recruiting muscle. We're just sitting in there and we're generating more force by recruiting more muscle fibers, and this is training your body to respond with more troops when it comes to that specific part of the lift.

So then when we start adding weight again, you know, you feel the difference completely. The problem with this is ego. This is, uh, I gotta go lighter in my weight. Yeah. The reason why this isn't popular advice isn't because this is new or we just figured this out. It's that it requires you to dramatically reduce your weight and that if you've been lifting for months or years and you worked up to get to that 250 bench press that you're so proud of and then you hear the advice of mind pump or more. You got to go from used to moving those two plates now all of a sudden 135 and you're like this sucks I look weak and it's all ego related. The results are going to get, you're going to get more results,

but the problem is so many of us, uh, lead with our ego and allow that to dictate how we should be training. And so we tend to stay away from this advice, the rep speed and pause reps require that you reduce the weight dramatically. And that means you're going to be lifting a lot, which ironically is so much better. If you're going to get better results, it's safer. You're, they're less likely to get injured doing these, these, this type of training, slower reps or pause reps.

Um, but many people tend to avoid it because of the ego. And you, and this can get really fun. Look, if you can put your ego aside, this can actually get really fun. Again, because most people have never done this before. So you've just discovered, you've just unlocked a new level to progress. I mean, you could literally, by the way, there's, this was an entire style of training that was popularized around World War II that bodybuilders still to this day will sometimes use known as super

slow motion training. During World War II, iron and metal was, I mean, they limited how much you could. Scarce, yeah. Because they needed it for the war effort. So gyms, their weights couldn't go up very high. So what did bodybuilders do at the time? Well, they did sets where they would take 30 seconds for one rep or longer, right? They would do one or two reps for a whole exercise, but they're moving the weight super, super slow.

If you've never done that before. Now, this isn't the way you should always train, but if you've never done that before, you try this for three, four weeks, watch what happens to your progress. By the way, this is true for all rep speeds. In other words, you can introduce novelty so many different ways. If you're the rare person that does train with slow reps and controlled, do an explosive, uh, you know, four weeks of training where you're using lightweight and you're trying to move it as quickly as possible and you're doing one, one,

one, like you said, Adam, you're going to see incredible progress. It's a very easy, very effective way of introducing novelty, getting your body to progress, and it requires no other changes. Again, that's my favorite thing about this is you don't have to change and plan and understand or don't understand workout programming. You're following a program that's working for you, it's just stale, it's just stagnant. You're like, I need to change things up. Change that. Just change the rep speed. Pause some of your reps. Stick to that for that particular style of rep speed for four weeks.

As you start to plateau, move to a different rep speed and watch what happens. All of a sudden, you've got all this great progress that you haven't even tapped into before. That was my bodybuilder advice. So in the bodybuilding community, time under tension is a very popular term. And so if there's anybody who does pause reps and slows down the reps, it tends to be bodybuilders that are tempo-based.

But they rarely ever go the other extreme. So that was like, so whenever I would get a client that was a competitor, been lifting for a really long time, understood time and attention and the value of it, they were the ones I loved to train in the one one one. Cause they'd be like, I'm not a power lifter. I'm the Olympic lifter. Why would I do this? It's like, Oh, this is going to be incredible for you because you never trained this way. So did I ever tell you guys that one of my first, one of my first fitness managers, this is before I was even a manager,

so I was only a trainer, I'm 20 years old, one of the first guys that I ever had that I worked for, I wish I remember his name, little Australian dude, and used to ride around on his little. Oh, little skate shoes. Yes, he used to only train that way. Super slow mo, like 30 seconds. Yes, every, yeah, he would do like, I think he would only do one set or two sets He used to only train that way. Super slow mo. Yes.

Like 30 seconds. Yes. Every, yeah, he would do like, I think he'd only do one set or two sets that were crazy slow. He'd get a pair of 70 pound dumbbells and just as slow as he possibly could until he, it's a failure basically. And that was his method of training always,

not rotating through that or interrupting it. And his philosophy behind it was that it was one of the, which very safe. This is also why there is an entire franchises that are built around this. It's called, they're called super slow. I think it's what they're calling it. We've done a look at them up. Yeah. Super slow training and they're designed to target the advanced age.

Right. So people that are much older and they're like, you know, kind of this circuit training meets, uh meets super slow training and that's what it is. They're designed in these kind of a bunch of machines and then they take you through these extremely slow repetitions to prevent injury. I've done, so I've done, I haven't done this in a long time,

so I mess with tempo all the time, but I haven't done the extreme slow motion training in a long time. The last time, I want to say I was in my twenties, but I did do a whole 45 day period, I want to say of it. And man, I remember just progressing. Like my body just, and then when I went back to my traditional training, what I felt was incredible stability.

Like my reps felt so smooth going back to my traditional strength training. So it's something that you never see in the gym. You just never see people do this in the gym and it's a super easy way to change your workouts and make them. That's it Doug. Super slow zone. Yeah. It's so funny by the way, people will introduce this stuff like it's brand new. This was literally World War II. Bodybuilders and gyms were stuck with dumbbells up to 30 pounds and they didn't know what to do. And so they would do these crazy,

and they looked phenomenal. You had these great bodybuilders, pre-steroid era. They looked incredible. Well it's funny, I mean too, I know you didn't mark this one up there in terms of rest, but I was used to, through my athletic career, just pure strength training. And so I had a lot of big rest periods.

And then sometimes we do circuit training, but I never did supersets until I hung out with Adam. And so that was like one of those other ways of interrupting it in terms of like taking one body part, one body group, and then, you know then going right into the next exercise that exploited that, and that really shook it up for me. Yeah, no, phenomenal. But I'm going to change direction a little bit. I just then had communicated to me about a product that one of our partners put out, and I had dismissed it because it was labeled as a GLP-1 probiotic.

You know what I'm talking about? And I'm like, immediately I saw it, I'm like oh god, they're trying to jump on the GLP-1 bandwagon or whatever. Who was this, what was that? Transcend. Transcend has it. Put this out.

So I, you know, through our mphormos.com. So, by the way, we're not supposed to, we're not doing a commercial for them or anything, I was just, I over the weekend did some research on this strain of bacteria. Okay. And it's called Acar. I'm going to see if I'm pronounced Acar mancia. Acar mancia.

Not to be confused with necromancy. No, no. Acar mancia is a strain of bacteria that is only found in the human gut. It is not a popular bacteria that you'll find in most in probiotics. Probiotics typically will stick to different strains of lactobacillus or Bifido bacterium. Acrimansia is this other, right? So I went online because I looked at the bottle

and I read it. I'm like, I've never heard of that strain of bacteria. This is weird. So I looked up studies on it. Okay. This specific strain of bacteria is connected to fat loss and weight loss and appetite suppression and anti-inflammatory effects.

It's actually wild. There are studies- Why did you just find this now? I don't know. I've never heard of it. Listen, I'll pull up some stuff. Why are they not? I feel like if it was that profound, Sal, every probiotic would be all over this now.

It's already exploding. Oh yeah. Yes, it's already, it's already. So is it like recent research that we have? It must be through the GLP one, like they figured out that pathway. The research is relatively new, but like I'll pull up,

so you know our friend Dr. Ruscio, he's got a great website. Yep. There's dr. Ruscio talk about it Yeah, I do. Oh shit. Really? Yeah, then I you know him. Yes. Oh wow. So It's no kidding very meticulous. Yes, so it it it In animal models, it stimulates the secretion of glp-1 So it'll increase the amount of natural GFG LP you'll produce. Now, it's probably not gonna produce, I'm not gonna say probably, I'm pretty sure it won't produce the same effects of appetite suppression.

A low level effect. Yeah, that's not gonna do anything like that. But the studies are really interesting. It seems to improve insulin sensitivity, it seems to have better effects with people who have IBS. So that's the thing, the gut healing effect to it somehow, like my friend who's introduced to it, she's been taking it and that's what she's been reporting

to me, way better gut health. Yeah. Sal, do you get any of this as a byproduct or is there any connection to when you actually take a GLP-1 that you get some of this as a byproduct, or is there any connection to when you actually take a GLP-1 that you get some of this, or is it completely different? This, so that's a good question. I can't find a study to see if it made people eat less,

and that's why they're seeing these results, or if it's the bacteria itself. Now, here's why I'm saying this. We have rat studies and some human studies where they'll do bacteria transfers, so gut, you know, microbiome transfers. Yeah, the skinny rackets fat, the fat rackets skinny. And then suddenly one of them gets lean, one of them is like, what is going on here?

So it's way more complicated than we think. It's not just one ate more, one ate less. It's literally the bacteria itself is doing something that causes fat loss, you know, or fat gain. So it's really weird. But the studies on this, the human studies show this. They have two groups. The group who took acromansia lost five pounds more

than the placebo group. Five pounds more is not a little bit. That's a significant amount. They didn't change anything else. Again, I don't know if it changed their eating. Probiotic, yeah. There was a 30% decrease in fasting levels of insulin. They had improved total cholesterol.

There were reductions in markers of liver dysfunction and inflammation. All this can happen by reducing calories. You know, A1C went down in the acromansia group. Blood sugar was better. Now again, it could just be that they ate less because of bacteria. Right, because all those markers would improve based off of that by itself. That's right, that's right. But there seems to be a

benefit for healing leaky gut because of how it affects them. What is Ruscio saying about it? He's citing all the studies and he's saying it's interesting is what he's saying. Because I think a lot, I don't think it's, I think they need more studies. Yeah, which sounds like that is what he's saying because I think a lot I don't think it's I think they need more studies but yeah which sounds like that's what I mean Ruscio is the type of person who would wait until it's like very careful yeah he doesn't hype anything up no no he's almost too he's almost boring to listen to because of that yeah he won't make a statement no I love others shout out to my boy Mike too I love him but I mean that's

like he's he's so careful to not be that guy that sometimes you're like, you wish he would just, well, just tell me, Mike, should I do it or not? Well, this is what this is, and then he'll go on this long, nuanced answer of this like, so do you think for sure or what? Like, well, I would never say for sure, you know, he's like that, you know?

So it's like, but I mean, also a great guy to talk about some of that, because he's also quick to, if it was bullshit or there's not enough interesting research even on it, he would right away dismiss it. So, you know, and you guys, we've been talking about this for 10 years, probiotic research, microbiome research is so fascinating. It's the craziest.

It's like landing on the moon. Now the problem with it is it's so complex that it's gonna take AI to figure it out. It really is because it's so complex what's happening. But we do know that the microbiome has profound effect. Again, I'll go back to those studies. They will take rats, change nothing, but do fecal transplant.

So oh, your microbiome has now switched to this lean mouses and suddenly it becomes leaner. They've done humans, they've done weird human studies like this too. It's really, really interesting stuff. Now does this mean we can create a micro, you know, a probe, no, we don't know what the hell's going on half the time.

That's why we're doing fecal transplants because we don't know how to do this any other way and we still don't know what's going on. But it's really interesting, and this is the first time I've ever heard of that bacteria strain. I've never seen that bacteria strain in a probiotic. Although you can find it now online. Again, you go to nphormons.com.

I think they provide it in a probiotic by itself. I don't think it's more important to take than the traditional lactobacillus bifido bacterium, which are so well studied. We know that those are good for you, but weird, right? But a new interesting strain nonetheless. I mean, do you think, it just makes me feel like we're one step closer to the magic pill that makes it.

We're getting a lot closer, for sure. I do think AIs had a part of that, being able to interpret all the data and everything at a really crazy rate. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's able to interpret all the data and everything, you know, the really crazy rate Yeah, that's yeah, there's some interesting stuff with that too, or you could like swallow a pill That then communicates to AI and then the AI is able to on the fly administer Hormones or peptides or whatever based off of your body in that moment.

Which I don't think you get in work. We're all neuro-linked. We get hive-mined. All of us have the same opinion all of a sudden. It's crazy, it does feel like it's giving nutrients. It's coming fast. It really does feel like it's all this stuff. Have you guys tried 1-800-CHAT-GBT yet?

No, I mean I use CHAT-GBT almost daily. It's the next thing that you try. I almost use it daily. No,800-CHAT-GBT yet? I haven't. I mean, I use CHAT-GBT almost daily. Well, it's the next thing that you try. I almost use it daily. No, no, the next CHAT-GBT came out. If you call it. Is it X-ray or is it? You're talking to CHAT-GBT and you could just talk to it. Just anything.

You could tell it, and just like CHAT-GBT. It's so weird. Okay, I play with it. It's wild. It's weird, bro. Hey, can you give me this? What about that? How about if you do this?

Oh, let me, and you're talking to a machine. No, I'm behind, dude. I gotta talk to you. Yeah, dude, it's so, I'm a little freaked out. I mean, I guess it's not that much different, because I've told you guys the last time we were talking about this, that it's only a matter of time before.

It takes over Google. Yeah, it takes over Google. Yeah. That's how you search, and that's how you already prompt Google or Siri now, right, Siri, look up this or whatever like that. It's now, you're gonna be able to just voice command chat GBT and chat GBT will figure out stuff.

You know, we were in the, this just happened last, the night before last. We're here in the bath and you know, I told you guys Max is always negotiating about like whether, how many books he's gonna read, he can stay up later, this and that, right? And we're in one of these times. He's a deal maker, that's where he got that from.

And he's negotiating with his mother while he's in the bathtub, and Katrina goes, says back to him, okay, well you have two minutes left until then, and then Siri in my bathroom also goes, set timer, two minutes. And I'm like, that is weird, dude. It was listening to an off conversation. I have the little, what is the little Apple ones that we got, do you guys have those plugged in? No, they're always listening to an off conversation. I have the little, um, what is the, the, the little, uh, Apple ones that we got. We all,

did you guys have those plugged in? They're always listening to you. They are. That's why I thought that was so weird. Yeah. I heard unless you take the battery out, they can still throw it off. That's yeah, it's, it's off. I have it just plugged in. It's off. I have it. I rarely use it every once in a while. I'll connect my music. If I'm in the mood to listen to music while I'm in the shower, which is rare, but I do every now and then. And so that's the only reason why I even have it in there,

because it's like one of those places I don't use a speaker. But just being plugged in is enough, because it hears that and it picked it up. It's not even turned on, it's just. I wonder if in the future the survivors from the drone wars or whatever you want to call them, is gonna look back and be like, what idiots? I wonder if in the future the survivors from the drone wars, whatever you want to call them, is going to look back and be like, what idiots, you guys gave them everything.

You guys invited them to your house, give them all the information, give them all the control. Current status, like every couple minutes, you know, you're posting it freely. I told you guys that there's a theory out there that AGI already exists, it's keeping itself secret. It is literally manipulating us. I feel like I told you that.

I don't know what to believe anymore. Way long ago. That's why I speculate. Have you seen the latest, so you know the whole drone sightings now that are everywhere? And there's orb, now there's orb sightings. So there's drones, they look like drones, they have the flashing lights.

And then there's orbs I saw the orb. I heard was it Actually had a decent theory is like if if you were to try to prompt Society at least like introduce aliens like you would make it more like you'd socially Condition it by having a lot of things in in the skies for a while not telling anybody anything They're just there and they just keep like, Oh yeah, it's the drones. And then the drones move. And now the real aliens come in. You're like, Whoa, less freak out. Well, I do. Don't you, I feel like nobody like half of my family's is that whatever. I literally know. Yes. I feel like this was

30 like a UFO could land. I want to slap in our parking lot and yeah, there would not be hysteria. You know what it is. I've been so excited. You know what I mean? A bunch of people just pull out their iPhones. I think it's a, I pulled their iPhones. I think it's a trauma response. I think it's like, you live in an abusive household and then, you know, mom throws a frying pan at your dad. You're like, I think we just been through some shit for all everybody.

You know what I, what I was saying, if you look at the descriptions of angels in the Bible, they describe what some of them look like. I saw videos, the wheels with eyes, there was a close up of one of these orbs and then there was a guy reading scripture. Yeah, dude. I was like, oh shit, that looks like exactly what he said.

Yeah, they're supposed to be real wild looking. Yeah. Terrifying, apparently. Justin, I want to hear, you had this note up there last week. You weren't able to talk about it. This is about your cat. Oh, yeah. There was another part two.

There was a follow up. Yeah, because. Is this the cat that got stuck in the tree? It's the same one. And so our whole plan was to get him fixed, because it's like, dude, this cat is Tom catting, you know, around and like doing so fucked up. We're like, we got to fix this cat's word cause balls off.

Cause he goes, he just takes off, you know? And so, oh, so he's getting, he's, he's, he's looking up. Yeah, dude, he's fine. That makes him behave more. Yeah. So they ever see an animal after you, after you spayed or neuter them, they're like completely docile Take all the drive away from

Man right now the testosterone is dropping for sure Yeah, so theories around that. Open your eyes, man. Uh, yeah. So anyways, there was another issue. We heard a rustling and, um, looked out our backyard and, um, there was noise and craziness and Courtney kind of went out there to look and see what was going on. And, uh, she thought that he was entangled with the bobcat and then they're just like making all kinds of crazy noises and kind of took off. So I got, I got like my like craziest, brightest flashlights. I got like, uh, I got on my bike and I'm like, you know, trying to go save the day and go find this cat and get it away from this bobcat.

And there was this whole ravine that goes down towards this creek. And so anyway, I just was like, whatever, I'm just going to track it. You know, I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm hell bent on saving this cat. Whatever cat I do like this cat, but like this was one of those things. I'm like, dude, really, this is, this is a lot, you know, but you know what I'm committed, you know, I'm out here. So I was like running down there. I'm like, yelling for him. And like, he's making wild noises. Like, I don't know if it was him or if it was the other cab, but it was like, it almost sounded like a little kid screaming. You know, I'm just like, oh my God, he's getting torn up, you know? And I'm like, no! Running down this hill in the mud and I have like all these crazy flashes. I see him, finally I see these two like eyes and then I see another pair of eyes like above

it and the shadow of it made it look like this big old like cat on top of this cat. And then I get closer and I'm like, wait a minute. And I look in, you know, my cat's black and there's this other cat that's gray. And I'm like, wait a minute. And it was him. He was on top of the cat. So he was making the other cat scream. Yes. It's neck and like, right? Like doing the thing. Oh, I'm like, freaking cat. Maybe more mad. I'm like running after him and he's taking off with this cat and they're like doing their thing and I'm like I'm like that's it dude. You're getting fixed. Yeah you're getting fixed. I'm all over this. Cut your balls off. I'm like hustling. I'm like almost broke my ankle like

jumping over this thing and anyways. Is this the same cat you guys had at the other house when you're trying to get to keep down the rats Or is this a different cat? Yeah, this is one of my best produced that's why he won me over because he killed so many gophers and rats and mice and like He's on fire But dude, I mean like like it was so loud and it was like, you know Neighborhood is like it's kind of fucked up. Yeah. You cut the balls off because you still like hearing cat sex. If I'm not getting that, you're not.

My standard I'm sticking to it. Uh, no, but the first one I think he really got, I think what he, he, he must've tried with some Bobcat that was in heat and then he got attacked and that would be bad. Cause like it ripped off his dew claws. And like he was in a cat mate with the Bobcat or they totally heard it. Yeah. They can't wait. You can have babies. We looked this up. Yes. Really? No, they can't have babies with a really? Yes. No, I don't know what it's called, but yeah, they're, it's like a hybrid.

It's probably like dogs. You can have different breeds. No. No. Yeah, but I like it. Can a wolf have sex with a dog? Yes. OK. But he can't do like a mountain lion. No, not a mountain lion.

OK, but a bobcat. Doug, look this up. That's weird. I want to see a cat that's right with a bobcat. Land Courtney if I'm wrong, but it's for sure. We looked this up. You know what I feel like it'd be risky though? Like half time the bobcat would probably eat the cat.

No, the answer is no. So a domestic cat cannot produce offspring with a bobcat. Didn't think so. They're genetically incompatible. There you go. God damn it. You're reading bad science. Honey.

I'm going for you for this. Yeah. But throw Courtney in the bus. Those all secondhand, dude. Dude, hey, I'm so bummed about our car experience with our staff. I was so excited. Yeah, it sucks. I wanted to go so bad.

I was going with my dad. You jinxed us. It was rain. You guys were raining. I told you the weather said it was going to rain. So they didn't let you guys do it, huh? Because of the rain. Yeah. They just took you So they don't let you guys do it, huh? Because of the rain. No, yeah, yeah. They just took you for a ride?

I didn't even stay for that. Some of the staff stayed for that. Adam was incredible, right? He's just trying to accommodate us. Was like, whatever you guys wanna do, you guys, I mean, he's like, I just hate that you guys have to hang out. But that's just their rule. Like, if it's pouring down rain,

they won't obviously take you out. Of course not, that's dangerous. Yeah, and so, but they have all these crazy tools, like a vacuum that sucks the water off the track and everything So as long as it just stops for a little bit, then you're okay. He's okay So he's like it's not a big deal if it dumps as long as we get a break if we get a break Then we'll send our team out there low level all day

But it was just this constant like mist all day long for them And so it kept we kept being on the fence you guys do anything else with the team We took out to a really nice brunch. That's nice. Yeah, really, really nice place. I know, I think, God, we had that planned anyways. And I was telling Katrina, I was like, I feel so bad, because half the team got up at probably 6 o'clock in the morning, drove all the way out to Sonoma. Yeah, they're young kids.

And so, yeah, they're young kids. But at least they got a really fancy brunch out of it. And I was like, OK, they got a fancy brunch out of it. And then Adam, the founder. What were the cars? They had Huracans. They had the 296 GTB. They had the 911 GT3 RS, the GT4 RS, the Nissan.

Yeah, they had the GTR. They had Corvettes. They had, what am I missing, you guys? I think that's it. Yeah, they want most everything. Yeah, and we all were gonna, everyone had different cars. They were gonna drive. Everybody was really excited, but I was super bummed.

But he did tell us, so the season goes from, this was their last race of the year. Season goes from February all the way till December. And so when the season's back up again, he said come down with the team and we'll take care of him and stuff like that. So yeah. I did a garage workout with my four year old and this was the first, he's worked out with me before

and do a couple exercises and he'll play. But this time he was like coaching me. It was the cutest thing ever. He was coaching you? Yeah, I do like I'm doing a set, and he's like, come on, bubba, you can do one more. Go, you can do one more. And the strength that he created in me,

have my kid tell me? Your kid's like cheering you on. Oh, yeah, you can do more. Buh-bye, oh, you're so strong. We'll lift a house. Oh, my gosh. I was like, this is like, I've always wanted this. I was like crying a little bit.

I love you son. It was awesome. So he gets up that early when you're... No, no, no, no. Yeah, I did an afternoon workout. I was like, damn, he's getting up that early and coming to the gym. Yeah, he is up at that time though. A kid wakes up at 5 a.m.

He comes in a room. Is he 5 a.m.? Every day, around 5.30. What does a sleeping day for you, Jessica, look like? 6 a.m. 6.30 would be like, uh-oh, better check on the kids, hopefully. Over there alive. My daughter will sleep till 6 or 6.30,

but he's up, man, around 5.30 he's up. He'll come up into our room, and then he gets into bed with us, and we'll let him watch a little TV or something while we do our morning scripture. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it was cute to have him cheering me on like that. It was super, and then he did it to his mom too.

So it was kind of cool. So it's the season, well we're out of the season, but it's still, we're out of the season, but the Christmas blend, the Organifi Christmas blend, hadn't done it in a long time, it's the best. It's the red juice and green juice mixed together. If you haven't tried it, you gotta try it. It tastes good, energy, good digestion.

Great before workout too. Great, non-stimulant pre-workout. And then they have, Doug, don't they have this like dawn till dusk? It's called sunrise to sunset bundle. Bundle. Oh, what's that? Sunrise to sunset.

Yeah, so you get a pack of green juice red juice gold juice Yeah, they all come together. Is it like a sample pack? Yeah, it's like a box you get all Yeah, that's a good that's a good give a very similar to like how they did the little starter kit that we did before so you can Another another version of that is that what that is? So it's three 30 serving serving pouches So you get the red green green, and gold in a whole 30 serving. Oh, it's a full. You get a month of all of them. It's not a sample then.

That's a full. No, it's not a sample pack. Oh, OK. It's a bundle. And you get 30 days of all of them. Yeah, I said sample. So it's actually, I mean, it's a great supplement stack. So if you haven't tried that, so red juice

is great because it's got some rhodiola on there. It's good for energy. It's got some rhodiola on there it's good for energy it's got the red fruits and vegetables then the green juice a little bit of ashwagandha a little bit better for CNS adaptation then the gold juice for inflammation and relaxation so that's why you go morning afternoon evening would be the way to do it and then with that it looks like they're doing a discount it's just kind of cool that's awesome yeah kind of very cool yeah 25% off okay if I was the best especially with their the way everything tastes oh dude I gotta tell

you Justin you know what they just found they just found some some ruins that suggests that barbarians and Vikings used stimulant, natural stimulant drugs before going into battle. I believe it. In particular, they found these little tiny like spoons and stuff that they would use to sniff and snort stimulants. Yes, dude. Wow.

How do they make these leaps? Because they find residues on them and they see, they see the size of them and they are with warriors. So yeah, you're right, they're guessing. Right, toxicology, archaeology. I've heard something along these lines, like again, this is like the Oracle of Delphi, like they have a lot of like trace elements there that like showed that the tea had some kind of psychedelic herbs and things in it.

But yeah, so. Wouldn't Coke get popular? Oh, I don't know. That's a good question. Well, traditionally it was used for a while. It's gotta be really processed, right? But not cocaine, it was like the Coca leaves. Yeah, because Coca leaves, I imagine,

have been around for, certainly. Well, they would use them in the, what was it? Was it Peru or Chile? Peru, I think, have been around for... Sure. Well, they would use them in the, what was it? Was it Peru or Chile or? Peru, I think. Yeah, down there, yeah. So, I wanna say my wife, I think it was my wife, when she used to travel with Cirque du Soleil, so she's been all over the world, and when they were hiking in these high mountains,

in the Andes. In the altitude, they would have them chew on coca leaves. It was cultural, yeah. Yeah, so you would chew on the coca leaves to help you, and I'm like, that was cocaine, honey. Yeah. Which is like, oh. It's cultural, yeah. Yeah, so you would chew on the coca leaves to help you. And I'm like, that was cocaine, honey. She's like, oh. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Nice.

Yeah. So I mean, that makes sense if, like, OK, that's an area where that plant grows and you could prove that it was a crop there. And then you also find the tools where they would be snorting. But I mean, it seems like such a leap because you found a little round tool.

No, I think we all, we do know for sure that the, that they would take psychedelics, not for sure, but it's pretty close that they would take psychedelics. They were called berserkers. The berserkers. And they would take- The thin red line. They were the front line and they'd give them psychedelics.

They'd rip their clothes off or wear like animal skins. Yeah. And then they'd be the first ones in. They're all in mushrooms and yeah, they'd be the first in there. And two, because I don't know if it was Ireland or Scotland, they had all the red-haired crazies, you know, that's where the whole thin red line thing came from. Oh, I never heard that. You know what's funny? I wonder if that's too, remember like how the D.A.R. the dare cops would tell you about like LSD and trims and that. Oh, PCP.

Yeah, PCP tell you something. Who the hell does PCP? I've never in my life seen anybody or been around anything like that. I don't know. Doug, you just seen videos. Oh, I thought Doug was a Chinese. Doug brought up his mic. Yeah, Doug brought his mic up and was like, oh, tell us, Doug.

Tell us some PCP stories. Yeah, let me tell you all about it. My friend Bob. I had, my dad had. What is it? A tranquilizer, right? Look it up, Doug. Yeah, I don't know. look at how to make it.

It gives you like superhuman powers. Well, no, what it is is you don't feel pain. That angel dust, right? Not that you're so that's why. Is that considered angel dust? I think so. I thought angel dust was another another slang for cocaine. I thought it was mescaline.

You're the drug dealer. No, not those drugs. I gotta do some research. You didn't do the drug dealer. No, not those drugs. I gotta do some research. You didn't do the high margin drugs. No, yeah, no, I was just pretending. That's what real drug dealers should say, just pretending.

Yeah, anesthetic. Okay, so my- Whoa, whoa, whoa, what did it say, what? Anesthetic. It said, yeah. Anesthesia. Yes. Oh.

So you don't feel pain doing crazy things. Fensite cladine or something to that effect. What's it derived from? Yeah. Anesthesia. Yes. Oh. You don't feel pain doing crazy things. Fensite cladine or something to that effect. What are its effects? What's it derived from? What kind of plant or what's it come from? I think it's a synthetic drug. I think it's literally a pharmaceutical.

So is that where we're just using it for, when are we gonna use something like that? Anesthesia. So is it literally the same thing? Well, anesthesia is a whole class of drugs. I know, like what's- I think that's what it was used for and then people would use it recreationally

is what it sounds like. Yeah, is it synthetic or is it derived from anything? Yeah, I'm not seeing that. It is angel dust though. Oh, you were right about that. Interesting, way to go Doug. Yeah, I got something right, yeah. My dad had an employee.

I'll take 500 Alex for drugs that none of us have done. None of us know anybody even that's tried to know. I'm gonna give you the answer on the synthetic or natural, synthetic. Okay. There you go. Yeah, so what are the effects of it? Look up the effects. Like what type?

So it was actually used as an anesthetic in the 1950s, injected as an anesthetic. And you were asking what, I'm sorry? Like sorry what are the effects why do people do it well obviously the shit out of you yeah it must feel good always why the hell would anybody take it well I mean if you imagine if you had a bunch of pain and then you took something like that you wouldn't feel no pain yeah I don't think it's people with backaches that take PCP a lot of drugs are a lot of drugs are used for not what they were intended for. That's what I'm saying. So I was gonna say my dad had an employee that got high on PCP.

Really? And at one point came to work high as hell and my dad had to subdue him. My dad had to subdue him and my dad's like, I for sure broke his shoulder. My dad did judo. He's like, I for sure broke his shoulder but I had to judo. He's like, I for sure broke his shoulder, but I had to keep holding him down. I kept fighting. You know what? You just reminded me, my stepdad told me a PCP story. Now, it was a thing in the eighties.

It was, it was, and he was a contractor and he came to work. It was a big thing. And he did some crazy. Blue collar guy. Yes. And he did some shit where he like cut a finger off or something like crazy and just kept on going

like it was no big deal. You're right. I asked him that story. So it changes your mood. It's a hallucinogen. So, uh, you'll see things. We'll have a good time, I guess. Well, my point of bringing that up though, was that it's the famous stories from the eighties came from PCP. So what made me bring that up though, is that you're saying that that's how they

use for the frontline guys, right? To go do something crazy and stuff like that. I feel like that's the way the dare guy would talk about it. If you ever did shrooms or you did LSD, it would make you jump off buildings and do crazy stuff. And so I'm sure that it came from the history of how they used it. My mom told me, the only time we ever talked about drugs

when I was a kid is my mom told me stories, she would scare me, is what she did. And so one time she told me, she was like, oh, LSD, because I asked her, I said, well what's LSD? She's like, oh, this kid one time did LSD and he sat in the corner, he thought he was an orange. What?

What? And I was like, what? What? I am now orange. What a random story. Whatever it is. I was like, what? I'm very citrusy.

Kudos to mom for coming up with something original. She's like, in the 60s and 70s, they would put it on stamps. And so you had to be careful if you licked stamp or something like that you could get it or whatever Which is a myth by the way look that up Nobody ever did that Talked to me about drugs your parents talked to you about drugs No, well they told me if I ever tried them you're gonna be kicked out of the house

Told you the story of my mom They thought I did so I didn't do any drugs as a kid. I was like a good kid, right? So I didn't do any and not even pot, nothing, right? And they, I threw a party at my house. This was when I was 16 or 17. So I was graduated high school at 17. So it was probably 16, junior year,

junior year, senior year in high school. Parents were out of town, threw a big party at my house, had the house spotless and cleaned, everything put back together, got year in high school. Parents were out of town, threw a big party at my house, had the house spotless and cleaned, everything put back together, got away with the party. Two weeks later, after the party is over, getting up to milk the cows, 3.30, four o'clock in the morning, brushing my teeth, right, half awake,

and my mom comes in the bathroom and slams a glass bubbler on the counter. What the fuck is this? Oh wow. Oh yeah. You're, I was crying. And you're like, I don't know. I didn't know. I imagined how angry she got. But of course you don't believe it. Yeah, that's why I'm mad how angry she got when I was like, I don't know. I don't know what is that? Yeah. So she was so pissed. I

mean, I think it was grounded for a year. I don't know if they held it for a year. Oh my gosh. Yeah, no, they did. They ground me for a year. I think they had stuck to like three months before they finally let it go but I Tell this story because my fast forward I'm in my mid to late 20s You know long long after I've been long gone on my own have my own house My mom and I are actually hanging out one night at my house Just staying up late tall telling stories and I was laughing saying you remember you Thought I did drugs when I was in high school And she goes you did do drugs in high school Don't you remember and she tells the story like mom I said mom that wasn't mine and she's like oh get out of here

Do you know there's no reason for you to lie? I'm like exactly. There's no reason for me to lie You can't do shit to me anymore I was like that was my buddies who left it up like like a typical stoner Put it above the stove and forgot about it and left it up like a typical stoner, put it above the stove and forgot about it and left it up there. And then, yeah, then my mom looking for a cookbook or something, grabbed it one day. And then I said, yeah, it was not mine. She still like, we went back and forth for a good half hour. And then she believed you? I mean, I don't know. You'd have to ask her the next time you see her,

did you believe your son didn't smoke pot in high school? Because she, I think she believed without a show she also knew I went to parties and Do I so with that I and I had a lot of friends that were stoners too So I mean if you're a parent well, I mean think about it in her shoes You wouldn't my dad drug test to me anyway, so It was new policy at work, why is nobody else getting tested did you know when he did that? Yeah, I knew exactly who he was up to yeah he was up to? Yeah. You didn't think you didn't fall for it? I mean, the only thing is I tried it like maybe twice in

my life, you know, and was just like, did the whole, you know, Bill Clinton puff thing where I didn't hail. I'm gonna be fine, dude. I'm gonna be fine. And then I started getting paranoid because somebody told me like stays in your hair for like ever. I was like, I'm gonna shave my head. And I was like, I shaved my head looking for gold seal. I had literally had it twice like ever. Yeah. You know, oh yeah. The herb golden seal. Yes. The gold seal. I was like researching. I was trying to find somebody had it. I was so paranoid. I came back clean and then it just went on like nothing happened. I'm like, dude, How old were you the first time that you smoked weed? I was

Junior high junior high. Wow. Holy shit. That's early, bro. What about you great loser Yeah. Let's talk about volume. Yeah. Moving along. Yeah. Anyway, let's change the subject real quick. I was a freshman or sophomore in high school. Oh, high school too.

And I did it and I thought, do you guys remember the myth where they said, you won't feel it the first time you do it? Bro, I- No matter what you do- I screwed myself because of that myth. So did I. Yeah.

What a bullshit. This is before the internet was really popular. So you've got crap information. Yeah. Terrible information. So I'm like, Oh, I'm only going, I'm doing this. This is my first time. I want to feel it. This is another one of those stories of you and I that are so eerily similar. So we're literally, we were, I was in my twenties at this time. So I had already, you know, a long past high school. I'm in my twenties, already have my house, come back. I'm coming back. I know, I'm a grown ass man.

I'm coming back to hang out with my buddies. We're in our twenties and it was hanging out at an old apartment and there's probably 10 of us. These are my stoner friends. And they had been trying to give me a smoke weed since I was a kid and I, no, no, no, no. Now I'm like, you know what? I'm a responsible adult.

Have my own house, like this this and they were like listen you you got you probably won't feel it your first time you got you're not gonna feel it it's like what a lot and so I intentionally at what smoke them all over the table they were done I'm like all right give me some more I want to make sure I feel this and it was the worst experience of my life I freaked out. Freaked out. I cried, I called one of my buddies, he held me all night long and he's just like don't talk. Your friend held you? Yes dude. I fell asleep as a grown man with another grown man holding me and telling me it's gonna be okay. And every time I would talk everything would be in loops. Oh yes. And I remember just like I would talk, everything would be in loops. And I remember just like, I'll never do this again. I'll never do this again.

And I don't think I touched weed for like another 10 years after that. I wonder if this whole, like, you won't feel it the first time was like a propaganda to get kids to like, oh yeah, we're gonna make sure we mess them up the first time. Like the dad with the cigar. Cause that's what I did.

I was in the back of my buddy's car and they passed the pipe back and I just take him big cause I'm like, I'm going to feel it this time. And I got so paranoid and so scared and so it was terrible. And I'm like, I kept telling my girlfriend, I'm like, feel my heart. Is it beating? Yeah. She's like, yeah, I think it's beating. I'm like, I don't think I don't feel my heart beating.

I don't think it's like, I thought I was going to die. And then I went home hours later and I felt so bad about what happened. I, and I walk in my house and of course it was a night that my parents decided to invite half of our family, 30 people in my house and I'm feeling so paranoid. I went straight upstairs and my mom knew something was going on. She followed me and she's like, are you okay? And I'm like, I came up with like a partial truth. It was a lie, but it was a partial truth.

Like my friends smoke weed and I started crying. I think I got high on accident. I got contact. It blew in my face. It did in the car. How do I tell her? Doug, how old were you? Do you remember? Yeah I was like a freshman in high school when I tried it.

You young too huh? Wow you and Justin are losers. Yeah I know. Real degenerates over here. I'm paying for it still. I had no idea. I had no idea too, you guys were like that. I'm throwing at you guys. We were hardcore. You guys were.

You guys were hardcore. It doesn't even count anymore. Everybody's... It was illegal, dude. Yeah, yeah. Did we talk about both of our partners? Yeah, we did. Well, actually, I was going to bring up butcher box.

I want to ask you, Adam, because you're really good about like food, like, you bunch of nudes. Did we talk about both of our partners? Yeah, we did. Well, actually, I was gonna bring up a butcher box. Oh, bring them up. I wanna ask you, Adam, because you're really good about, like, food. Smoking my meat? No, no, that's just, feeding your, like, max really healthy meals. Yeah.

You know, my kids, I've brought this up before, but what we often do is we'll take their grass-fed ground beef, and I'll add a little taco seasoning, salt, I'll make a big thing of rice, and that will feed my kids all the time. Like, it's so easy. All the time.

They'll always eat it, no matter what, and it's so healthy. It's like the best thing. So I have a go-to recipe meal thing that me and Katrina eat all the time, which is it's the grass-fed ground beef that we make. I throw like four or five of those into, so fill up a massive iron skillet.

And then saute mushrooms and onions, and I'll be cooking rice, and then I just mix it all together. And it makes this big old dish, the garlic and the butter on the mushrooms mixed with the sauteed onions, mixed with, and it's like you can do it in bulk. Max loves it. I love it. It's easy. Macros are incredible on it. Digest really well.

It is for sure like a go-to meal. It's got a good fatty acid profile because of the grass. So good. So, so good. I want to, I have it. I do have a shout out today. Oh, God. You're going to shout out that? Yes, I am going to shout out today. Oh, go ahead a shout out that yes I am good shot. I haven't laughed hard so Time so my stomach. Oh, yeah, this will give the audience a little peek into our sense of humor Because some people might not like this, but I just Whatever whatever if you have no sense of humor like that kick rocks So I found this Instagram page and it is this.is.michael2024

and what he's all he does is he posts other viral clips and then he highlights all the funny comments. So and one of my favorite things is to read like viral clips and read the comments. I just think that- Because people in the comments are just- We used to do that anyways. Yeah. They're- He's cultivating. Exactly. So that, I mean, I would do that anyway. What gets me to watch a reel that

goes viral more often than not is actually to go through and see the comments. People are funny, dude. And so what he's done is he's curated that for you. So there are all these viral clips and then he's high, he highlights all like for you. So there are all these viral clips. And then he highlights all the top 25 comments that are on the volume. Yeah, like this one dude is like a martial arts guy. But he's like a big dude. And people are kind of like, what guy wrote?

Chunk Norris. Chunk Norris. So the internet is undefeated. And you just get such witty, funny people. That's one of my, I don't know. If you're into that stuff, it makes you laugh. It's a total laugh, you're not gonna learn anything. My favorite one. Instagram.

The one that had me laughing so hard was like, there were these daughters that were talking, and then the mom comes out, makes a comment, and they all look a little rough, and people are commenting on one of them said, I know there's some Cookie Monster pajama bottoms somewhere in that house. It's like, why?

Why? Why are those pajama bottoms? Why is that always true? I immediately know what they're talking about. What is it with Cookie Monster pajama bottoms somewhere in that house. Why, why, why are those pajama bottoms? I immediately know what they're talking about. What is it with Cookie Monster pajama bottoms? Here's another funny weird thing like that. So there, I saw this, I saw some weird, somebody made this comment about like bad shitty drivers and it's almost always some guy in a Nissan Maxima or Ultima. Why?

I don't know why. That's so true. I'm telling Katrina this. She goes, that's not true. Literally, swear to God, this is a true story. This was just nine and a half years ago. It was like maybe a month ago. I'm telling her this story.

She's like, how does that, that makes no sense. We're driving. Fucking, I get cut off by a Nissan Altima. Like, she was like, oh my God. I'm like, I told you, it's such a random thing. So weird. It is so weird. I mean, I don't know. There's also a lot of that said about like, oh my God, I told you, I was like, it's such a random thing. It is so weird. I mean, I don't know. There's also a lot of that said about like,

and I'm gonna offend everybody that drives the Dodge Demons or Challengers and stuff like that. Like that type of guy that shows up to the car show. Those people drive those, they don't wanna strangle. Why? Worse, dude, my commute every time, dude. Yes, they suck, stop, go home. You wanna use peptide science to radically change your skin for the positive, make it heal faster,

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How do you navigate through the new year, new me hype? You know, what's interesting about this question is, um, I have two perspectives. One of them is as, um, maybe a gym member, somebody who works out themselves. And the other is as a fitness industry professional because it's an interesting experience on both sides. So as a person who works out consistently, I've been doing it for so long that New Year comes around, nothing really changes but I do remember a time when this might have affected me especially early days where you start the new year off,

motivation is at a really high level and you tend to set yourself up for failure because when you make, when you set goals in a hyper motivated state of mind, you don't have good foresight. You tend to imagine yourself as always having that motivated state of mind. And so this is where people mess up, right? They get started. They're not working out. They haven't a long time and they're like, that's it. New year starts.

I'm eating clean. I'm getting rid of everything out of my house. I'm going to start working out five days a week. Like we're taking it serious. And then of course, three, four months later, they fall off because they've set themselves up for terrible failure. So the most important part of this is to realize the state of mind you're in is not one that's going to stick around and to try to be as realistic as possible

with whatever goal you set for yourself. So you have to ask yourself, whatever I'm starting with, is this something that I can honestly say, I think I'll be able to maintain for the rest of my life. And you have to be as honest as possible and start there. As a professional on the fitness side, this was actually a strategy that I used with brand new members and new clients. As an early trainer, I would take advantage of this motivation. Someone would come in, get super hyped. I'd say, cool, you're gonna work with me five days a week and work with me four days a week. We're gonna buy all these different sessions of training and later on I was actually more successful

By talking people down they would come to me and say I'm gonna start I want to work out with you four days a week And it's about how much are you doing now? They'd say well, I'm you know not doing anything I said we're gonna start one day a week and then we'll move it from there and that strategy of talking them down Resulted in far better results and consistency and actually made me more successful as a trainer. Yeah. I guess it really depends on what perspective this is coming from. Is this a person who would consider themselves a part of the hype and that

they're trying to not fall off? Or is this like somebody who works in a gym or goes to a gym consistently already themselves and they're complaining maybe about the overflow of traffic and all the people. So I guess that's what I'm not sure about. But I think your point is spot on as far as if it's you who's concerned about the hype is that people always overcommit. I mean, it's one of the, one of the most common. And you know, the other thing too is not only do they, not only do they over commit on how much

and what they're doing, but they also over apply. Like they don't even need to. So I think that's a big part of this too is understanding that you're not gonna get better results faster by doing seven days a week. You may temporarily, but it won't be longterm. And after you extend this, this over three, four, six months a year, you're far better off committing to less and building on that and building that

momentum. And just from a results perspective. Yes. I mean, that's going to give you better results. It's more realistic to sustain it. Um, so that would be the thing that I would be careful of that people get hyped up and then they fall in the trap of if I do more, I'm going to get more results and that's not necessarily true in this situation at all. And you're far better off of, Hey, I just came off the holidays. I haven't been really working out. I've been inconsistent. I've been doing really working out. I've been inconsistent. I've been doing all these things.

I've been eating bad. I've been not hitting my protein intake. I haven't been going to the gym. I haven't been doing my walks. I haven't been trying to sleep. I haven't been trying to focus on my sleep. It's like, pick one or two things that you know you can instantly implement and make change to improve your overall health.

And just stick to that and then build on that. Focus on those lifestyle things first. If you haven't attacked that even before the whole hype even begins, it's like, can I, can I address some of these things that I do every single day? Can I switch one thing I do every single day and keep that consistent? Whether that's like just getting outside and going for a little walk, you know, after a meal or whatever it is that you're gonna do, you're gonna drink more water. It's just a very basic thing that you're gonna focus on

consistently hitting. You know, once we get a lot of the lifestyle things that are like a consistent pattern that you've established, then we can really start tackling more on as we go. But it's just such a better approach than trying to just throw the whole kitchen sink at it. Yeah. You're, you're, you're dealing with, um, what you're trying to accomplish. Remember you're trying to accomplish, uh, lifelong ideally, right?

Lifelong behavior change. That doesn't happen overnight. It's a process, unless you have an epiphany, which is so rare. That's why it's called an epiphany. Um, it's so rare for that to happen. I haven't even, look, I used to have clients, I have clients that were members, I would say that would come in after having terrible health scares and that didn't even give them the

epiphany they needed to completely change their life. So don't rely on that. Even though right now, even though right now you may be listening to this and you feel like you've had that Epiphany, it's January. That's it. I've never been in such a terrible shape. I'm gonna change everything No, that's I'm gonna look the data shows very clearly that you are wrong So start with something that is realistic and start there and again the data supports and shows very clearly that that is a much more sustainable realistic approach. It also works better. Adam's point is very true. The body adapts better that

way. If you do too much, you apply too much stress on your body, it won't adapt very well and you're actually setting yourself up for so much failure that you'll discourage yourself. Well especially if it's negatively motivated. If all it is is you're seeing all these deficits and horrible like behaviors that you have that you need to correct and you're not going into this, trying to better your health with like better habits and improve on positive things. Like you're going to, you're going to end up torturing yourself and quit. Yeah.

A hundred percent. And as trainers, if you're listening, if you as a coach or trainer listening right now, one of the best tips I could give you, if you want to be successful, as defined by clients that get good results for law, you know, for forever. And as this find, uh, through your business as building a good business, one of the best tips I can give you is to under promise and over deliver. You get a new client that's super excited and is wants to do everything with you. Talk them down, start them off realistically.

You're going to find far more success across the board with that than you are trying to capture the motivation and try to push them through when the motivation fails. Cause they will leave you if you do it that way and you will lose a client. Next question is from Tnook Sear Tap. Any benefits to acupuncture related to muscle building

or fat loss? Have you guys done acupuncture yet? Oh yeah. I've never done it, I've always been curious to do it. You know, so there's two ways we can look at acupuncture. One is we can look at the data and the data's mixed. When it comes to pain, the data seems to show that acupuncture is beneficial.

When it comes to other issues, it's a bit mixed. Now the critiques on the data is that acupuncture can be done very well, it can be done very poorly. There's also a very individual component to acupuncture, so depending on who you go to. Then the other end of this is this is a practice that has been around for, I don't know, I think it's thousands of years if I'm not mistaken.

I think acupuncture's been around for thousands of years. Now, I like studies, I like data, I like the double blind placebo controlled gold standard. But if something has stuck around for thousands of years and it's because it's been shown to have value, I consider that to be as valuable as a double blind placebo controlled study. Okay. So where am I going with this?

Yeah. I think acupuncture works for sure. I definitely do. Now I've had personal experience with it and I've had clients that have had profound experiences with it. I'm the first time I'll tell you guys a story. I think I've told you guys this before. My first real experience with acupuncture, there was a woman.

So I had, when I had my wellness studio, we had developed these wonderful networks of other practitioners. And I had done acupuncture before and it was kind of lackluster. Well, anyway, one of the people in my studio had found this acupuncturist that was, I guess she was exceptional. That's the way she described it. She's like, she's amazing. You got to go see her. She's great. And I was super skeptical. I'm like, I've tried acupuncture, you know, I don't know if I noticed anything She's like no, no, you gotta see this woman

so I go to this woman super skeptical and She does her tests on me and uses Chinese medicine to describe what's going on and at this at this time I was like all Western medicine. So I'm like rolling my eyes, right and she goes Oh, you have too much young Yang energy We need to balance it with yen this, this, that, and the other. And she said, I can give you a treatment that is good, or I can give you a very aggressive treatment, but I won't give you the aggressive treatment

if you're going back to work. I'll only give you the aggressive treatment if you're gonna go home. So I'm like, why? And she goes, well, you won't be able to work very well, and it's probably not safe to drive. And in my head, I'm thinking like, right, but we'll see about that.

So I'm like, give me the, my literal words for her were I'm going to go home, which I wasn't, I lied. I said, give me the most aggressive treatment you can give me. So she said, you sure? And I said, yeah, I'm positive. So she did this, she did her acupuncture on me. I laid on the table, I got up and she said, okay. She's like, make sure you're home within an hour.

I said, yeah, no problem. And I went back to work, started training clients. Sure enough, about an hour later, it felt like I took sleeping pills and Xanax at the same time. I got so, I had to cancel my appointments and take a nap in the back. Everything came down so hard. And then I was like, I totally bought in and she did certain things for me, for pain, for function, I had clients that I would send her.

It was exceptional. So yes, I think there's some benefits. I don't know if it'll help directly with muscle building and fat loss, but through the improvement of health. And I think it works with the central nervous system. That's my theory. Yeah. I definitely think there's value.

Well, I think, I think it absolutely can. If you think that self-myofascial release, foam rolling is beneficial towards- Or massage. Yeah, or massage is beneficial. When you understand what's really happening when you do foam rolling and massage on why it seems to work or feel good, then it makes sense why acupuncture works. I think until I understood what was really happening with the foam roll, I think I didn't believe and understand what was going on with acupuncture and

thought it was woo woo and oh, this can't be working or how is this possible. But when you understand what happens with the foam roll and what it does to the CNS, calming it down because you have this overactive, then it makes complete sense that taking these little needles and hitting these points. Damping that protective signal. Yeah, hitting these points that are overactive and firing like crazy, which is causing you to

tighten and seize up, which is causing this chronic pain, that putting these needles strategically in your body calms that signal down, then now allows you to move more freely, then allows you to do exercise and do things like that. Then yeah, absolutely, it makes sense that. There are, by the way there are locked ranges of motion there are established so Western medicine will tell you there are already established parts of the bus so Western medicine is way behind right when it comes to this but they'll even tell you like if you're pregnant you're in your ninth month of pregnancy like third trimester there are parts of the

body they say do not massage don don't, because it could trigger labor. There's also referred pain, right? The famous one being left arm pain when you have a, you're starting to have a heart attack or whatever. There are areas that you could pinch and push on that will cause a migraine to potentially go away and stuff.

So I think acupuncture works with the central nervous system. I think the way that Chinese medicine practitioners explain it doesn't make sense to our modern, you know, Western science approach. So they'll say things like the meridians and the, you know, lines of energy and all that stuff. And you're going to be like, well, you know, that

doesn't make any sense. I don't care. I think it works. It's been around for thousands of years. And it, when, what I always tell trainers is when you build your network of people on the shortlist, I always include acupuncture. So I definitely think it's valuable when you find a good person. It's interesting you mentioned that because when football and I get a stinger, I'd pinch right here and it would like help quite a bit.

Yeah. It was weird. Weird. Next question is from Kathy Biker. Thoughts on assisted stretching labs. Is it worth it? I haven't done one of these. They're popping up like crazy. So is this assisted stretching, I'm assuming,

is like somebody holding it? Like stretch labs. Yeah, they're popping up all over the place. They're doing static stretch with that, right? Or like. Is it static where they're putting it in position? Is it PNF? PNF?

Oh, I think it's great. PNF would be great. Oh yeah, for range of motion, for overactive central nervous system, I think it's great. I think combining it with exercise would be exceptional then. Yeah, to me it's one of those things that, because the question follows up with is it worth it? I mean, I guess it depends on your financial capabilities, right?

Do I think that you could actually apply a lot of these techniques to yourself and get the same type of relief? Yeah, but then it's work. It's just like the same kind of relief that I get from massage therapy. I could foam roll and do a lacrosse ball and do all these mobility drills, but I love that I could pay somebody,

lay down on a table, close my eyes. They're gonna direct you. Yeah, pay somebody else to give me that relief, but it's a luxury, right? So I mean, I think that people that can afford to do it, I think it's awesome. And absolutely, I think it's worth it if you can afford to do it. If you can't, it doesn't mean you can't still get those same benefits on yourself. There's tools and things that you can use to give you the same benefits

as you're getting from assisted stretching. To me, it's like a luxury to be able to do. Well, I think it's to your point of it being work, like to get clients to abide by a lot of these mobility practices and daily rituals. And it's always a challenge for coaches to really sell that to their clients and get them to be consistent with it and to have other options of accountability. I think going to a place like this and having it structured so the instructor takes them through and kind of works on the most challenging.

I think too, I would have like specific clients that have very challenging ranges of motion. This is definitely somewhere I would send them to get that extra bit of work so it doesn't feel like so much work. I'm just constantly like throwing at them all the time. They have somebody sort of directing that exclusively. Yeah. You know who would benefit a lot from this too are people who do a lot of consistent strength training, bodybuilders.

There is a hypertrophy benefit from this. You actually get a little bit of, and the data shows us pretty clearly, you'll grow some muscle. Now it's limited. It's not like strength training, but you'll build more muscle by doing this. And if you do a lot of strength training, and you're always toeing the line of between I, much, or not. You're so sympathetic.

You're barely ever parasympathetic. I attribute the success I had in bodybuilding to Katrina massaging me every day. Every day she was either stretching or massaging me, and looking back, not having that. Made the muscles fuller. I just, I could, I could train more. I could, the volume and intensity I could apply at such a high rate because it's a form of active recovery. Yep. So somebody who's helping you recover and you're getting it all the time, like, oh my God, that and that it's not like the difference in one visit. It's like, oh, wow, I built 10% more

muscle because I did one massage therapist or I saw, I did difference in one visit. It's like, oh, wow, I built 10% more muscle because I did one massage therapist. Or I saw, I did one thing of stretching. It's like, it's the accumulation of consistently doing that, the added benefit. And the more time that I can train, the more volume and intensity I can apply over a period of time, that's where it really starts to add up. And so yeah, if you have the luxury to add things like this. Even with that, Adam, the studies on, um, this kind of stretching and hypertrophy, there is a muscle building effect.

In fact, if you would strength train a lot and you do one of these classes, or you do this on your own, do long static stretching. And then when you're done with it, like really good static stretching, like you're holding it for a long period of time, you know, you're in there for two minutes, you're breathing through it. When you're done with it, stand up, look in the mirror, you have a little bit of a pump. You'll actually get a little bit of a pump from, from this. So for bodybuilders, this is a tremendous value.

Next question is from Jonathan Sash. Do you think BPC 157 would work for an older bicep tendon injury? Yes, but it'll help. But here's the deal. Like, uh, you can get a tendon to heal faster, but if you don't fix why it's injured or inflamed, you're just going to get the, it's the same problem. Yep. You're just going to run into it again.

So it's like, you know, you're fixing a hinge on your door, uh, but you're not fixing the fact that you're still pulling on it. Yeah. And so the hinge is gonna keep, it's gonna keep breaking. So the BPC 157, which I think now, I don't know if you can get BPC 157 anymore, I think now you have to get PentaDeka Organite,

which is essentially the same thing, it's just a little different. They're really good about getting around the regulators. Yeah. It does accelerate, uh, healing and repair, um, actually quite remarkably. So if you do use this and you don't combine it with correctional exercise, you are stupid.

I mean, there's no better word to describe a person that uses something like BPC and doesn't do correctional exercise. It's like, why, why are you doing that? You've wasted this beneficial peptide because you're going to go back to where you were before. Now if you combine it with correctional exercise, magic. These things are absolute magic and I would combine this if you're looking for like the holy grail of recovery and repair. You would go BPC with thymus and beta and correctional exercise.

And what you're probably looking at is something like a 50% reduction or more in time for healing or repair. So like a huge difference. So if it would take you three weeks or three months to get better from an injury or inflammation, basically cut it in half with those two peptides plus correctional exercise versus correctional exercise alone.

That's how powerful that is. It has to be in combination with the correctional exercise and mobility practice and just constant better pattern sequencing. And so that's really to get beyond where you are stuck in continuously aggravating it, we need to build those better patterns. But yeah, it'll help absolve that.

Those are the two knocks that I have on the PPC 157. One knock is it actually works so well. You're like, oh, I'm good. Yeah, you're like, oh, I'm good, which I've made this mistake more than once. Like, feeling so good so fast that you go right back to, you know, intense training too soon. So that's one knock. The second knock is the point about pairing this with corrective work, mobility work, because if you had, now even if you had an acute injury, right?

Let's say it was a freak accident that you tore the bicep or something like that. What will happen because of the injury is you will have these, you know, your body will compensate because of the injury. And if you don't address the compensation while you go through the recovery process, then even when you heal and get better, you're not gonna be- Now you're moving weird. Yeah, you're moving off,

which will then later on manifest in shoulder pain or elbow pain or wrist pain or some pain somewhere else from that point. And so it's important that you pair those together. That's my one fear with a lot of people because it's become very popular now. It's no longer under, like it used to be gray market undercover, say 10 years ago, where it's become wildly popular now. Now you're seeing like my mother-in-law, okay? 70 years old, text me literally four days ago, know hey son, is this is this okay for me to take my neck is hurting me

And it's it's pill form BBC 157 and I'm just like yeah, that's not really for what you got going on mom You've got chronic pain. We need to you'd be better off with the massage and then I gave her something for inflammation I said but for this that's more like tendon repair or damage for tissue and again It's not addressing the root cause, which is what I was trying to explain to you. But by the way, at mphormones.com, that's where you can get it from a doctor, because Adam mentioned gray market.

That's, we don't go gray market. I don't mess around with that, because who knows what's in that. But okay, so here's the other part of this is, if you, it may actually also make correctional exercise possible for some people. Cause in some time, in some, not often, this is rare, but in some cases, the injury or the issue is so bad or so tough to move through that the person can't

even do the right correctional exercise because it hurts too much or there's too much protection going on. I believe in some cases, I wish I had this in the past, because there weren't many cases where I had clients and man, it was a long road because they couldn't even do the correctional exercise. So we had to scale so far back and take such a step-by-step approach. But I could have, I would have loved something like this where it opened things up and now we can move within a particular way and get to the more

beneficial correctional exercise even faster. So, um, this is like a godsend for a lot of people, but it has to be combined with good physical therapy or correctional exercise. Otherwise you're just kicking the can down the road. Look, if you like our show, come find us on Instagram. Justin is at mind pump Justin. I'm at mind pump to Stefano and Adam's at mind pump Adam. Thank you for listening to mind pump. If your goal is to build and shape your body, dramatically improve your Instagram. Justin is at Mind Pump. Justin, I'm at Mind Pump with Stefano and Adam is at Mind Pump. It's Maps Anabolic, Maps Performance, and Maps Aesthetic, nine months of phased expert

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