Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 2526: Four Steps to RADICALLY Better Skin in 30 Days (Listener Live Coaching)

Episode Date: February 5, 2025

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Let's talk about it. Oh, I like this. Yes. Very popular, always has been, I feel like, for the female market, but extremely popular in the male market now. Yes. Doesn't it feel like that?

You know what? A little bit of a shift. It's pervaded now into men territory. Women are just marketed to, but when men and women are asked what features they'll look at and mate, physical features that will make them look attractive. Near the top of the list for men and women is always teeth and skin. Teeth and skin are both up there.

Why? Well, evolutionary scientists would say it's because both display health, good health. So if you have healthy looking skin, it probably means you're healthy. Of course there's a larger picture there. Same thing with teeth. Both men and women will say that. Now I think women are just marketed to heavier because youth is higher on the list for men

than it is for women. But when women are asked, is skin, is that important? Or does bad skin really change the attractiveness of a man? It's like yes, definitely. So yeah, both men and women are interested. Well, I also like you going this direction because anytime something like this becomes popular, right, in the market, it opens up all these products and things, right, and supplements and stuff like that. And so

I'm curious to hear from you, like, the big rocks first because that's, it's just like exercise, right? There's all these killer performance supplements and things that you can do. And then there's like the big rocks that are going to build the most muscle, burn the most body fat, keep you the healthiest that like are free to you that you could probably do. And so I'm sure there's similar advice

when it comes to your skin. I can think of a couple that come to mind, but I wanna hear what the big rocks are for you. Well, number one is to drink about, and now this is a general piece of advice, right? But drink about a half a gallon to a full gallon of water every day, somewhere within that range.

That's just the range, and you guys have echoed this with your clients, that seems to work well. When I've gotten clients to do this, besides the benefits on appetite and energy and joint pain and all that stuff, the first thing they notice always is their skin, always. They'll start doing this and within days or a week,

they'll typically comment, per like clockwork, my skin looks better from just drinking more. So hydration makes a big difference with your skin. So okay Sal, so explain the science behind that. Is that just our skins are more hydrated and what does that mean? Does that mean that we're filtering through stuff better because we get more water?

Or does that mean our skin's not dried out and so it looks a certain, like, what is, yeah, what is the, what is really helping with hydration with the look of our skin and how it's insulated? So much, but so dry skin loses elasticity, doesn't look as, for lack of a better term, plump, right? So it's got less of that youthful quality. It also, you'll start to produce more oil than is necessary

when your skin is dry to offset it. And it throws off the microbiome of your skin, which is a big deal. That's connected to acne and skin issues. Also, when you're telling your clients to drink a half of a gallon or a gallon of water a day, now we knew this as trainers from a fat loss perspective, but what also tends to happen is

they tend to drink less other things. So they start to reduce the consumption of other things that can have potentially negative effects. It's a temperature regulator too. But initially it's just the hydration, just your skin. It looks, it's more hydrated so it's more full, it's more elastic simply because you're drinking more water. Now if you don't, believe me, don't drink a lot of water

for a few days to see how your skin looks. It's funny, you know when this is really evident? If you've seen this many times, go backstage at a bikini or a bodybuilding show. That's the op, so when you're competing, I know where you're going with this, you get this paper thin, dry look, that's what we call it. Yeah, in fact you restrict your water

to try and show every muscle fiber. You look at their faces, and these are 20 year old competitors, they look dead, not just from being lean, but from being dehydrated. Well, I mean, if you just kind of think about the skin, like when something's obviously off, like it's either it's like really dry,

or it's like discolored, or there's some kind of like, you know, abnormality in terms of like a rash, or like something like that, that's like, you know, sticks out, it's very visible, like you could see the signs of it health. Yeah, but this one right here, you'll notice right away. This is like the big easy rock right away. Yeah.

You wanna try and have better skin wherever your water, and you gave it as prescription generally for everybody, but wherever your water is, try doubling it. That's another way to do it too. It's like wherever you consistently drink water, double it. And I could, I got pretty good at this. By the way, I learned this.

This wasn't me figuring this out on my own. I was lucky to have really, really good coaches and health practitioners in my studio. I owned it for 15 years. These were people that worked in different spaces in the health space. I was like a... When I first got my studio, I was a meathead trainer. I knew macros, I knew strength training, I knew cardio. That was it. But I had health practitioners working in there. This was a meathead trainer, so I knew macros, I knew strength training, I knew cardio, that was it. But I had health practitioners working in there,

and because it was a small studio, so I would hear them communicate and talk, and I'd learn from them, and they're really smart. And I started to be able to pick up on dehydration through people's skin. And you would see in their lips, I would see it under their eyes, and just this general look,

especially on the hands, you could tell right away. And so I'd tell my clients, have you drank enough water today? they'd be like oh actually I only had a cup of coffee how do you know I'd say well let's drink some more water in their breath yeah all right next up is to avoid gluten and processed sugar now I know I'm gonna get heat from this from the nutrition Nazis but gluten is a very common intolerance. Now you don't have to have celiac. If you have celiac, you know. You have a really

strong reaction to gluten. But there are, and now it's established in studies, if I said this 10 years ago, we got a lot of pushback, but now we have a lot of studies that show that there are quite a few people, pretty significant percentage of people that have non-celiacs gluten intolerances and it typically shows up in the skin as inflammation or rashes. A common one would be the bumps on the back of the arm. So a lot of people get these kind of like little,

almost like acne, but not really, like little bumps on the back of the arm and just patches or rashes or rosacea type stuff on their skin. And it's gluten, avoid gluten. And then process sugar. When I would have clients do those two things, and often I would do those not specifically for skin,

but it was more for overall health, let's see if we're bringing down inflammation, let's see if your gut issues start to resolve. The first thing that they would notice was skin improvements. By the way, this is why, and you've heard us talk about this when we talk about getting a client

to switch over to a whole foods diet, and then even though their goal may be to say lose 50 pounds with us, the first things that I'm trying to help them pay attention to is stuff like this, skin, hair, energy. Just simply by switching over to a whole food diet, I know so many of my clients, we've cleared up acne and their skin feeling is more hydrated, it looks better. And teaching them how to attach that to things like that. Because whenever we get to this 50 pound goal, they all think is going to make them happy that you guys all know the inevitable happens. They don't get any happier. It's like it's other parts of their life that need to be work on. And so therefore, I need to help them attach the reasons why they make these food choices and exercise choices

so that they do it forever, not just for this arbitrary number they wanna lose right now. But for everything. For everything. So when you think about eating that pizza that goes down so well and you enjoy so much, you also think about, oh man, but then my skin,

the next day I'm gonna break out for sure, and then all day that's gonna bother me, and I'm like, you know what? Like as bad as I want that I'm going to pass on it. And it's not always attached to, oh, it's going to put a pound on the scale or not like it like your weight. So funny, like the pushback, because it's like it's the only people that even provided the pushback where the ones just find the donuts and pop tarts. Yeah, I'm trying to incorporate that like this has to be part of, because I love it so much. It's like they're trying to defend it, but really, if you avoid it, then the majority of people will see signs of a difference in terms of like bloating, in terms of inflammation,

and all these different aspects. Yes, yes, and Adam, you have, now you have actual psoriasis. You eat gluten and processed sugar, and it flares up? Oh yeah, it lets me know. And you know within, is it a day or? Oh no, I know within a half hour to an hour of digestion.

Yeah, it'll start itching first. Yeah, that's what you've told me. So like I always know, and by the way I did this the other day, so I indulged. And I think that's too, like, you know, again, like I think we always try to come from a place of like not standing on a pedestal saying, oh you can never have these foods. But I'm very aware when I make that decision, you know, and it quickly reminds me because it'll start as like me just itching.

Now, if I course correct right after that and say like, and what I did, the school actually had this little half birthday for my son, which I'm not a fan of that we do here, is yeah, cause his birthday lands in the summertime. So they give him a birthday party in school, and they do that for every kid, so it's like every other week,

it seems like there's a birthday party. And of course, they have cupcakes, things like that. Anyways, enjoyed one, knowing damn well that I would feel this. Feel that, and it's like, if I course correct and get right back to whole foods diets and improve things like that, then it'll go back. If I continue it'll exacerbate the situation. Right so the awareness just gives you a complete picture. Right. Because if

you're not aware you'll push push push push until the signs get so loud. Exactly exactly. The point of me bringing that up. Next up is to eat a diet that's higher in omega-3 fatty acids. The traditional diet, western diet, is very high in omega-6s. Omega-6s are essential as well, but when the ratio of omega-6s to 3s isn't ideal, you just have more inflammation. Inflammation shows up in your skin. It's not just pain and stiffness in your joints. It's not just bloat or a few pounds on the scale.

It's in your skin. Omega-3 fatty acids from fish in particular, or even supplementing with omega-3 fatty acids, can have a good benefit to your skin. Or switching from, let's say, grain-fed beef to grass-fed beef to kind of give you some more of those better fatty acids. But this will have an improvement as well. And then lastly, this one I don't think I need

to make the case, is get good sleep. You can see it in somebody's skin, especially under their eyes. One night, one night of baths. Oh, you look so refreshed. Yes, dude. Thank you. Now poor sleep, increased inflammation,

more water retention, cravings for hyperpalatal foods go up. So it's like all these things that we just talked about really gets erased with porcelain. Would you have added one more in terms of like seeking out sunlight? I mean, obviously the right dose dependent because I can overdo it pretty easy. Either that or like where, going through these,

where do the products play a role? Like I mean, we obviously work with companies like Caldera, Juve, both are known to be incredible for this skin. So where does that fall in the protocol or the order of operation for you if you're talking to a client? Yeah, well, I mean, if you're a dumpster fire because you're not drinking enough water,

you're eating garbage, you're not getting good sleep, you're not exercising, and then you're trying to use products on your skin to offset. That's like using a squirt gun on a dumpster fire. It's not gonna do much, right? But if you're relatively healthy, they can actually have a pretty good effect. In fact, Caldera has a lot of studies,

that these are legit studies, where over 90% of the people who used their products saw an improvement of their skin. Now the difference between a company like Caldera and other skincare products is Caldera's oils and lotions are designed, they're natural and they're designed to balance out the skin's natural microbiome. So your skin is actually healthier, that's why it's looking better, not like you're forcing it to look healthier through these synthetic means.

So Caldera literally, and you'll notice this, Justin and I couldn't have more different skin. We're both on two sides of the spectrum. We both- Especially when we were kids. Yeah, especially that picture. Don't bring that up anymore, by the way. But we both use the serum, and it balances mine out,

and it balances his out, even though my skin- Did you guys, not to derail us here, my did you guys did you have not to just like Derail us here, but did you guys see their most recent caldera labs? Commercial no. Oh, yeah, it's I sent it to the group thread this morning. If you look at it Doug, it's hilarious It's this oh the one with the cop. They are evolved of all of our partners they probably do the best in my opinion of Taking our clips and creating good commercials around it and the, I've seen there are other people that they were, partners they work with. They do the best, I think, as far as, is like cutting the ads up.

And they now are dipping into the kind of the humor side, which I haven't seen that from them yet. Like everything they've done so far is like, more clinical, right? You know, and it's more from that direction. This was the first time that I've seen them move in this kind of playful direction, where they have like this pretend cop pulls this guy over for looking older than what he really is. And so it's like a little skit. I mean, it's ridiculous and silly, but it's good, you know?

So it's interesting to watch where they're moving now with this. Very cool. Well, yeah, so Caldera is my... So Caldera Labs is one of the best. And then you got red light therapy is backed by study after study after, decades of studies. Decades of studies on, now the reason why red light therapy

was not available to the average consumer in the past was because it was so ridiculously expensive. It would've cost you 20, 30, $50,000 to get these, but now with Juve, it's far, far, it's affordable. People can have them in their home, because they've been used in high-end esthetician offices for a long time. Red Light Therapy really, I mean it rebuilds collagen.

You have visible changes to your skin. I mean, if everybody did what I just said, those top four steps, plus use Caldera's skincare and Juve Light, within 30 days, you would have a radical change to your skin. Radical. I'll take that challenge, seven days.

You'll see a, I mean, I notice a difference. When I, obviously the Caldera Labs product, you notice as soon as you put it on. Like you can see what it does as soon as you put it on. I feel the same way about the Juve Light too. So if you're taking care of the big rocks, like you're saying, which are the most important, because obviously if you're not doing all those things, you're not going to counter that with a little bit of stuff like that. But you're taking care of those big rocks and then you pile that on there, oh, a hundred percent makes a massive

difference. This whole conversation reminds me, it's always weird being married to a nurse because just like we do when we look at, we analyze people's gait or their, the way they walk or the way they move. So she's always looking and we'll point out like diseases or things like based on people's skin and how it looks. And then one time we saw this poor gentleman who had like literally gray skin and I'm like, babe, look at this, look like an alien, like it was, but it was like some kind of, I don't know,

circulatory type disease and she named it and then it was just like, wow, it's crazy. There's also something called hyper, I hope I'm pronouncing it right, cholestemia or something like that where your body produces so much cholesterol, it will come out in your skin, or you'll get those dark patch,

you've seen some of them on your neck, like the dark patch with the bumps? You get the bumps. Yes, and that also can show insulin sensitivity issues. Now when people have things like that, is it completely reversible through diet and stuff? Yeah. Oh, yes.

I mean, well, okay, so hypercholesthmia medication is usually required. Diabetes depends on the person, but when they adjust it, then you'll see the skin issues. In fact, if you go to the doctor, with some of these skin issues are well established, they will say, see he's got some up there right there,

they will actually say, oh, your body's producing ridiculous amounts of cholesterol, or you have this particular condition. So, did I pronounce it right, Doug? Yeah, I think you are. Okay, yeah, there you go. Interesting, right? Speaking, I think you are. Okay, yeah, there you go. Interesting, right? Speaking of some of the stuff,

there was a study on exercise versus sleep, which was remarkable. I'm gonna bring this up. Dr. Rhonda Patrick was talking about it. So check this out. This is what the study shows. Physical activity, people who exercise, physical activity with people who have suboptimal sleep,

now we're not talking about terrible sleep, but people who are not getting the seven to nine hours of sleep every night. Interrupted. People who are active actually negate the increased mortality risk of sleeping. Hmm, interesting. So exercise is so protective, it's so protective,

that I can actually make up for not that great a sleep. Now I do want to add this as an expert in exercise, Rhonda Patrick is not, she's really, really smart with data and studies. You, your risk of overtraining super high when you don't get good sleep, so what she said is appropriate exercise. You overtrain and get poor sleep.

You've just multiplied the mortality risk, in my opinion. You make things far worse. I mean, I think that's so important that you note that because I think that there's a lot of, I mean, how often, we just got off of live callers recently and how often do we have somebody who is not getting the greatest of sleep, but then is also, we know, over-training.

But if the average person were to look at their training regimen, would not say, in fact, she was running one of our programs, right? And yet we'd say, listen, in this context. You need less. Yeah, and in that context, that person isn't doing themselves any favors, and I don't think is negating, per se, those effects.

No, no, you over train. Over training plus poor sleep is a, you're on a fast track to really bad health. But activity with poor sleep, appropriately, helps with those, I mean, exercise is so protective, it's ridiculous. When you look at the studies on, especially strength training, just muscle,

now, I'm not gonna advocate for doing everything bad but exercising, but boy does it protect you a lot from doing a lot of bad shit. Just being fit and strong, and again, I caution saying it this way, but you get away with a lot just by doing those things. Resistant to stressors. Resistant to stressors, resistant to bad food,

more resistant to alcohol, resistant to just life. Just pollutants and all kinds of stuff. It's pretty wild. What do you guys think of the gym pods thing that I sent over to you guys? Dude, brilliant. Right? I can't figure out.

It's interesting. So explain to the audience, so these are small pods. They remind me of, what are those famous pods all over the country you see all the time? Rent the pod? It's called pods, I believe. It's just called pods, right? Oh, where you put your...

It says, yeah, you... It's like a little storage unit, looks like. Yeah, yeah, it looks like that. A roll-up door. Yes, it looks literally like that, but they make them black and kind of fancy looking. And there's gym equipment in there, it's small. You have an app, you pay for a timeframe,

it'll open for you, you'll go in and get your hour or two hours, I think it's like $20 an hour, I don't remember what they were charging. You go in, you have access to a gym. And it's just yours. The only thing I'm worried about, or wondering, is who cleans it, how do they keep it clean? How do you prevent people from doing other stuff in there?

How do you make sure that people aren't stealing weights? But I'm sure they figure that out. Yeah, okay, think about this. If you pay online, you've gotta put your credit card and personal information. So right there, you're attached to the security part of it. And you have a camera on the outside of it. So if you see some dude walking out with a fucking barbell,

you know what I'm saying? You know who did it. Yeah, you know who did it. You literally have his credit, it would be so easy to track them down. So you'd be a fool to Rod that that's not it's not no it's no different than the famous chain That's everywhere too with the gyms that are all any time fitness any time fitness same concept if a guy walks around

Yeah, so it's no different than that It's just I guess you schedule a cleaning service to show up like once or twice a day I don't think you need that much. I mean if you if you have Because remember gyms have a crazy amount of volume, thousands of workouts. You're not getting but 10 workouts a day in there. I mean you'd be very happy if your gyms being, your little pod thing is getting worked out that many times. So 10 a day at most and so probably once a week. It's puddle sweaters.

Yeah. Yeah. You remember. Oh yeah. There's at least two of those I would run into at six in the morning. Can I tell you something about that though? So now I've been working on commercial gym here for a little while and since COVID I think they really emphasize like people now spray their shit down and clean it, which

I get. But sometimes I get on gym equipment, someone just used it and it's covered. It's dosed in the chemical stuff. Yeah, it's a bunch of chemicals. I know, I know. Is that better? I know. I don't think it's better. It's funny you bring that up. Yeah, it's covered in- It's dosed in the chemicals. It's got so much chemicals in it. I know, I know. Is that better? I know, I- I don't think it's better.

I don't think so. I had a super similar experience just recently and I literally the same thing saw across my mind. Forever chemicals. You know, here the person, and I get it, right? They're, and this is not me shaming that person at all, but I questioned myself the same thing. It's like, would I rather got on this

and had a little bit of back sweat on it, you know, where you see a couple drops. Just wipe it off, yeah. Just wipe with a off. Or it's soaking, it was drenched and you could smell the chemical. Yeah. So I'm like, I don't know if we're trading. I don't think it's better. I don't think it's better. I've worked in gym, we've worked in gym for forever. Okay. If you sweat all over it, use a towel, wipe it. That's it. Right. I get that. And then throughout the day you have your porters go and actually do a deeper clean. But it doesn't make sense to me that every person spray it with antibacterial something,

wipe it. Now, if you're smart and you're a gym owner and you have the towel spray set up, set up, you use something that's more natural. Like just a water bottle even. Water bottle with towel and just wipe it off would work perfectly fine, you know? That's probably the way to do it. But like, you know like Lysol. You know Lysol spray, right?

Oh yeah. It kills everything. Yeah, you don't want that. You know what they recommend? Look this up, when you clean things with Lysol, you're supposed to wipe with water afterwards to get the residue off. Otherwise it ends up with your hands, your food,

your eat, you eat it. That ain't good for you. I don't know about you guys, but I'm more worried about chemicals than I am about a little bit of sweat. Yeah, that's definitely shifted. I mean, the last time I was in a commercial gym, I just think right away to this guy that was like a total hippie that like, different pull ups,

stunk up the entire gym. And just everybody cleared out and I was like, oh man, I'd be so mad if I was the owner of one of those pods and that guy is just like regular. We had this one guy. and just everybody cleared out and I was like, oh man, I'd be so mad if I was the owner of one of those pods and that guy is just like regular. We had this one guy. It's in the UK, so I'm super interested as it. Is it just UK?

I think it's just the UK right now. I don't know if Doug looked up the company while we were talking or not, but it's. If you find it's got cheap rent, right? Cheap, it's set it up once. Well, think of it as a trainer. When you guys, when we were training clients and you used to, like, you just meet them at a pod.

Oh my God. You know, for an hour. And then you're not doing a bootcamp or something like, it's way better than you having to pay a massive overhead to rent space from a gym. Right. I mean, going right over here is $600 to a thousand dollars a month for you to just use it a local gym for the space like that. Whereas I could just pay by client and pay the pod.

Yeah. Really, really, really, really. In my opinion. Really, really interesting. Cause most gyms will charge you more than that. Yeah, interesting model. So, and it looks like it has like a TV and like some stereo system in there. Yeah, I think you have like a Bluetooth hookup.

Oh yeah, makes the most sense in big cities. I mean, that'd be so much convenient. I would use it if I were traveling. I would use it. Is that it right there? I believe so, it's PT pods. Does it, yeah. What are the payment options? what does that say right there?

So you can do a single session for 25 pounds or you can get a membership. And those are part-time 80 pounds a month or 110 pounds a month. Damn, that's expensive. Is London expensive? Yeah, it is expensive over there. No, it's not, I mean.

$80 a month? Yeah, but you. You get a gym membership. No, it's $80 for four sessions, or you can get eight sessions for 110. Well, what it's, I think it's called PT pods for a reason. I think they're really targeting trainers. They're really.

Oh, wait, no, scroll down. There's also memberships for trainers. You gotta click there, and there's a separate fee. Oh, it's more for that. More for that. Oh, see, apply. You gotta apply and figure it out. Where are they located?

I wanna see how many locations they have. they've got to have a ton. I mean it's definitely an interesting model. It's also structured in a way that's portable. So it's like are they in certain locations for a certain period of time? Like I'm it's so... As I can see there's only two locations. Oh they just started. So it's... Oh, interesting model. Yeah, yeah curious to see how it plays out. We had this dude that used to work out at Hillsdale, a club we all worked in at one point. And he, you know, nice guy, really nice guy, worked out all the time, wore the same blue,

Oh, I know what you're talking about. like, you know exactly what I'm talking about. Sweated all over. Yes, dude. He had to put the collar out of his shirt, so he'd like, those old school, He used to make him have to wear towels, he used to bring towels in with him.

Bro, he would put towels around the equipment because he sweated so bad. Around the bike, yeah. And he smelled. And one time I remember I was like, I talked to him about, you know, it was like this is embarrassing. I hate to bring this up or whatever. Didn't change. And one of my trainers got fed up and got spray deodorant. And while the guy was, he was doing like Versa climbers. When his arm went up he went shh shh. Oh no, no he didn't. Oh my God. You could never get away with some of that. This was the 90s. You got away with a lot more back then.

Speaking of the gym, dude, I gotta tell you guys, like I know I brought this up in the past, but when you get a fitness fanatic and you're older, it's like you just will somebody ask my age? I can't wait to tell somebody my age. Like your favorite thing to do. Tell them how old you are. Oh yeah, in fact, you talk to a fitness fanatic, they'll tell you their age before you even ask. Like, oh you like to work out?

Yeah, you know, I'm 48 years old, right? I'm 57. They love telling you their age because they're so proud of it. Yeah. So I love it. So I'm working out at the gym today and this kid comes up to me and he's like,

hey man, how long you been working out? I'm like, oh you know, 30 years. He's like, oh my God, how old are you? I'm like 40. He's like, hey man, how long you been working out? I'm like, oh, you know, 30 years. He's like, oh my God, hold it. I'm like 40, he's like, wow, you're 45? And it's my ego just. I'm like 27 year old kid, you know? You're doing it. Yeah.

You look great, man. I thought you were like 62, that's crazy. Yeah, that's true. I didn't even know what he was thinking about. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You assume he's thinking that way and you're thinking the opposite way, right? No, no.

Wow, grandpa games. Oh, I'm glad I didn't guess. Oh, god. I should have been like, guess my age. Dude, nobody knows that. I had a weird thought the other day about side hustles. And we've been kind of talking about that as what kids would do. And somebody was talking about paying for somebody else

to stand in line for them just for, it just for, I, it was just to get into some kind of, uh, for a while. Right. But you know, what's weird about that is like, yeah, I figured that was probably a thing. I never really looked into it. Like how much do you pay for a service like that? Or like, you know, when, when there's some kind of new tech launch and you want somebody to sit there for you and like, I mean, I knew of lobbyists obviously too, right? You know, and the government, but, uh, you know, like, if you're just a student and you have to study, like why not study in a line and just sit there and like squat?

Well, you know, it was, from what I saw, there was like more of the long-term endurance ones. They made like 1500 bucks for like a two day long. Wow. That's not bad for two days. That's really good. Yeah. Go camping for two days for $1,500. Right. Yeah. Basically you're camp squatting there, but like, I don't know. Like I thought that was interesting because it was like, I wouldn't even have thought of that on top. If you could combo all of these side hustles together and like, you could make a pretty substantial.

You're right. Dude, there's so many cool things for this generation to make money, like that we just didn't have. I mean, remember, I mean, I don't remember you guys, but I remember I couldn't wait to get into an age where I could even have the permission to go work. Oh yeah. Yeah, I'd have my parents sign originally when I went to work because I was under 18.

And it was like, you were limited to how much you could with school, and so it was like limiting what you could do. Now there's so many things that you can do in the app world. You know, I think I've talked about, I know I've told you guys off air, I don't know if I've shared with the audience or not,

that one of the things that Katrina makes fun of me that I do this, and I don't even know what it is, but I have a soft spot for young entrepreneurs like if I know you do what I've seen it when I meet young young kids it must be right it must be something like that and she's always just like what are you doing you do not have the time talking to a couple 17 year old kids for two hours about their business they're probably gonna quit in six months and I'm, no, I'm inspired by it. And if I can make a small impact. So anyways, like we like are the people who detail our cars. That's how we met those young guys.

And I was, I sent them a message yesterday about the kids that this other hustle that I said, man, this is such a, this is in your guys' lane that there's this popular thing, I think I did bring this up on the show too, that I'm seeing more and more of it, where you get these guys that will go out where really famous areas that car enthusiasts drive and go have lunch, and they just post up a little sign that has their website and website and says we're doing it and then they wait on a Corner and they literally shoot thousands of photos all day long on a Saturday And then you just go to their website and you can it's you know Obviously, it's got the big old thing over it and I can find my cars and I can buy the digital prints

I can buy them them print me like a really nice photo. I can book a I can buy them to print me like a really nice photo. Such a smart idea. I can book a one-on-one. I want them now to come and do a whole photo shoot, rollers with a car, and stuff like that. So I was like, man, this is brilliant. And I think, well, wow, the same type of people that will pay for photographs of them driving a car

are the people that will do details on their car. So I was telling those kids, I'm like, yeah, you guys got to find a way. Because they're really where they're stuck right now is generating more consistent leads. And so I'm trying to teach them how to get out there and do other things that help feed that funnel. And I'm like, man, one of you learns how to shoot with a camera, you know, and you guys post up there, you shoot all these cars and then now you have built in potential referrals for your detail business. and now you have built-in potential referrals for your detail business. And then don't stop there because those same people

use PPF wraps and want paint correction stuff, window tinting, all things. Then you should go build relationships with all those people. If you don't teach yourself that skill, go build relationships with a tent guy, with a dent repair guy, and then you become the all-in-one place

that you refer out or do yourself. You and I are so similar, except I don't go the business route, I go the like, I wanna help you become a better man. I wanna help you become a, one day become a father. I'm leaving these kids, it's so funny, I talk to these kids about fatherhood.

You know how I leave them every time they come to do my car? Energy drinks. So, and I'll give different energy drinks, like tell me what you think about this one. Bro, that one was too strong. They always ask me about like their girlfriend advice and everything and being married and all this

while still being cool. I'm like, yeah, yeah. I'll tell you guys the thing. Yeah, right. Oh, that's good. I like those kids. Totally random. Same thing, when I see hard working kids,

I really wanna help them out. I really wanna help them out because they really wanna help them out because they could be out partying, they could be out wasting time playing video games, doing whatever. Instead, they're out on weekends, hella early, going out, working, hustling, trying to build. Oh, I'm thinking about all those things too, because my oldest is, he's really in that head space

and I'm trying to think ahead where he could use his energy and focus and all that kind of stuff. And it's like, because it is exciting, because I love building things, and I love getting in that process of like, well, if I build this, then I could stack this on top, and then that'll open the door over here. And a lot similar to what you're kind of figuring out

with that one idea, it's like you can really grow if you water it right, and you really put the steps in place and focus. And it's like, it's really hard for me not to like, you know, place people right in front of them like dominoes. And so that's really what I've been doing. And I'm like, I don't know if it's necessarily the move, if it's that or just like total hands free and like let them fail and like, you know, crush himself or like set him up like he can do it or he can not. And that's kind of where I'm at,

is I'm kind of placing people ahead and seeing if he takes advantage or not. Yeah, I guess that's a really good question on how much do you insert yourself into it, right? To where you're not actually doing the work for them, so they do it, but then at the same time too, you're there to guide and kind of help. It'll be an interesting bridge for me to cross

when I get that place. Speaking of that stuff, I think that one of the biggest mistakes I see serial entrepreneurs make is leaping from idea to idea that don't feed into each other at all. If I were to unpack my journey in entrepreneurship, sure, I did a lot of things the wrong way and learned the hard way by failing and stuff like that. But probably one of the best things I always did, I always found a way to leverage my current thing for the next thing. So that it wasn't like this, maybe I was gambling because I'm moving in a new direction or taking a risk, sure. But I never risked that much because I always had the

thing that I was doing to fall back on and that thing was potentially feeding the next thing. And then it would like- You could repurpose it. Yeah, and then when that next thing started to get some traction, it was, okay, if I have any other ideas, those ideas need to be able to be fed from that idea. And so they've all kind of fed it,

which I mean, when you think about this business and you unpack everything and all the revenue streams that we've built off of it, that's really what this is. I mean, it's why this has become so successful is it was all of us heavily focused on the podcast, but then from that, all these other things were created. We're pursuing these ideas in order to then enhance your skills and acquire.

That's how I look at it too, stretching myself in order to then learn and adopt a new skill that will feed in maybe the the current thing more appropriately, or maybe this thing actually works. Maybe it doesn't, either way, it's like, I feel like I'm more well-rounded as a result. Dude, speaking of that, that's why I like, I heard Alex Hormozi say it, I've repeated it a few times,

I don't know where the origin of it is, but it's such a great saying for your son, young kids that are getting entrepreneurship, is to remind them that the first three years is not the earn phase, it's the learn phase. I love that. I love that too because it really helps shift, you know when you're-

Yeah, because otherwise you have expectations. You do. You're let down. Yeah, you're let down that you're not already, I mean, so those kids, right, they come to me the other day, feel so bad from this has happened now twice to them, and they come to me like, what do we do, Adam? What are we supposed to do in this situation?

And they're like, we just got this, they have this MBA client that they take care of his cars and stuff like that. That MBA client referred his sister. They now go take care of their sister. The sister has this Escalade with TV screens in the background. The first time they go detail her car.

And then when they get done with the detail, she checks it out. Oh yeah, awesome. And then they get a text back like, you broke my fucking TV monitor in the back. And just called them, she came on glued on him, like blaming the kids for that. And they're like, Adam, what do we do?

What do we do in a situation like that? I said, oh man, you know, well, here's the learning phase for you guys, right? And I go, here's the biggest thing. One, the lesson from this is how do you make sure this doesn't happen ever again, right, so you now need to have steps in process whenever you get a new client,

that you do a full thorough check, you make sure, and or you never touch electronical things inside the car so you never could be liable for it, you make sure that you have that conversation. You communicate that head to head. Right, and then what do you do right now with this client financially?

I said, well, let me tell you what I do I value my customers So if I know and I know these guys can't afford a say $5,000 TV that they got a bunch of free car wash Right exactly. So I'm like, here's the deal, you know, I even though and they're like we know we didn't do it this and that I said, yeah, but that sucks dude. That's here's the situation where you've heard that that old, you know generic the customers always right Here's the situation where you hear that old, generic, the customer's always right. It's like, if you value that customer, or in this case, because it's a new customer,

do you value the referral it came from, the MBA guy? And they're like, yeah, no, totally. We want to make sure it's done right for them. I said, well, did you ask him what you wanted to do? He goes, yeah, he basically told us that we should probably hook her up with the car washes and stuff like that. So yeah, dude, I mean, I'm going to do that

because if I can't financially pay her back right away and that's my only way to pay her back is through service, I'm going to do that. Even if it's not my fault because I value the customers and the downstream effect of that. And long-term, they'll get that money back. That's right. And you coming forth and doing that, maybe you actually win her back over because they're like, okay, I see that. Because I know if that happened to me, right? Let's say you guys did that to me. Now maybe I'm a little bit easier type of person

to deal with, but I know that just you suggesting that you're gonna pay for it, take care of it, makes me go, don't worry about it. Exactly. But you not saying anything about it, so that puts a bad taste in my mouth about the type of business you guys are. So you gotta keep that in consideration.

So yeah, they're going through stuff like that right now. 100%. Dude, I gotta tell you guys, this crazy video I saw the other day, have you guys seen this video that's going viral of World War II vets versus regular people experiencing Gs in an airplane? No. By the way, these are 80-something, 90-something

year old men. So they're showing video of regular people Experiencing G's and passing out head smash into the front whatever and these old ass guys are handling a brother fly They're going to play like they're not even yeah, they're totally fine. I'm like, oh my god Is that like you keep that? Be resilient. I love is that like I mean, I'm assuming that these guys have experienced in that plane. Yeah, but they're like 90.

No, I know, but still, like, at least they have, they know what to expect in that, because I feel like you put a regular. Look at these people just, these are regular people getting just, their ass is kicked. Now, I've never experienced these, I know Justin did.

Oh yeah. And from what I heard, it's pretty nasty. Oh, it's, look at this guy. It's no joke. He can barely walk in there, he's like a great grandfather, and he's just, He's just hanging. Look at this guy. It's no joke. He can barely walk in there. He's like a great grandfather. And he's just hanging out. He looks like he's just like he's going on a drive.

He has a walker. Look at all these guys. What? You'd think that age would, you know, that would be a factor where it would kind of affect them. Bro, this is like an old bad ass. Look at this guy right here. What another great example, though, the body like a bad ass. Well, you look at this guy right here. What another what another great example though?

The the body's ability to adapt right? Yeah, like they obviously have experienced that their whole life, right? Flying in planes and so their body has got incredible resiliency and Adapted to that. Yeah, and even after probably decades of not doing it They still bode better than the 25 year old who's never felt G-forces like that. That's interesting. It also shows us how soft we are. Yeah, it's like, oh man, I love that. Did you listen to, you sent over to us, a chamoth on Tucker.

I didn't finish it, I listened to some of it with you, but man, he's a really intelligent guy. I love him and Sax when they talk together, but he's just, he's breaking it down. Economics, breaking down, just so much, so smart. He really, he pointed out some things economically that were really, really failing at. What I love about Chamath too is that he comes from

kind of a liberal leaning center person. And obviously Tucker is known to be a more conservative, obviously a conservative voice. So most people would probably be turned off, or oh, it's Tucker, I'm not gonna listen to him. But it's like, okay, well you're listening to him interview somebody who is a- He's a Silicon Valley billionaire,

but you're not. Yeah, yeah. And he starts talking about some of the things that we put in the way, and we get in the way of ourselves from really helping ourselves as a country, the bureaucracy around it. And he just, from his perspective, because of what he's into and what he's doing, has such a great intimate knowledge of all the roadblocks

of us trying to innovate and do things. Because so many of us are arguing over things like, oh, should we do solar or natural gas or this? Or somebody who has to go in and build companies within those parameters and knows what's going on. A lot of people don't consider the regulations. So you might have a great idea.

Like nuclear power is amazing. The regulations around it make it impossible. But if we had those regulations changed, we'd be solved, for example, right? So one of the other discussions they got into, which was really fascinating, was AI. Tucker asked him, like, what do we have coming down the pipe for AI?

He's in the middle, they created this thing with breast cancer. So for, with breast cancer, there's like, I forget what percentage of women end up not getting it all out, right? Where they'll go in, they'll take, so there's the, mastectomy is the whole thing, right? Double mastectomy would be both.

Would be both, and then the lump one is when they just go eat the lump out. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I forget what it was. They remove the cancer and the tumor. And then there's a percentage of those that they go in and they don't get all of it, so they gotta go back and do all this.

So there's quite a bit, it's not crazy air, but I think it's like five to 25% or something like that. And so AI has the capability to eliminate the air, to where like real time it can go in and measure if all of it was taken out so that there will be a, right, like crazy, right? And he's like, and we already ran 18 months of like perfection basically approved it,

but it'll take two more years because of all the FDA regulation and all the bullshit that's involved. So he's talking about, that's like just one example of something that he's in the middle of like creating that AI. He was another one that would be incredible but again we get in the way with regulations and stuff like that and I thought whoa that would be badass is imagine an AI buddy tool that you all could download as an app or whatever that just like chat GBT is or whatever but you feed it every piece of health information that you get about yourself. Body fat percentage, every medical checkup, every hormone specialist, everything like that and it is constantly...

Because it's so much data. Yes. It's really good at breaking data down. Yes. And so it's almost like your... It's your own personal data? Yes. Wow. And the reason why you can't is because you can't access your own personal fucking data that easy. Otherwise it would it would be your second opinion in your pocket

all the time. You also don't have one centralized place that's looking at all of it. Right. And that's a by the way it's a lot of data. It's a ton of data. And imagine so it knows like where my cholesterol was this month, where it was six months ago, where my blood pressure was, where my body fat percentage is always at, where my blood work was at the last six times I've taken it and it's calculating all the risk and the possibilities and the things to look out for and it's like and that and he goes that would be really inexpensive for the end consumer to have. Once we create that and we're to build that type of software, the average person who can't really afford a lot of healthcare

and things like that could have that in their pocket. And imagine just having that capability to where you can input your medical information. And it's like, wow, I never even thought of that as a potential thing on how to use AI. Yeah, I mean, thought about, yeah, that we don't really have access ourselves personally to our own personal medical records, our own personal data. Like that's ridiculous. Isn't that stupid? That's ridiculous.

I just saw an AI study coming out of the University of Toronto in Applied Sciences and Engineering, and they can use machine learning to sift through different potential molecules and materials to come up with solutions. So normally what you have to do is you have to test them out. You have to test out with solutions. So normally what you'd have to do is you'd have to test them out, right? You'd have to test out different things.

It's an expensive, long process. Whereas AI can use data and understanding of these different materials and molecules and can come up with, it can narrow it down to like five things that we need to test, test these things out. Well, they just, researchers through machine learning have just designed nano-architected materials

that have the strength of carbon steel, but weigh as much as styrofoam. Crazy. So it's even lighter than carbon. It's lighter than styrofoam, but it's stronger than carbon steel. Crazy, crazy, right? All through machine learning.

I mean, carbon steel, carbon fiber is super light. So that's interesting that it would be even lighter than that, and yet stronger. And it just through machine learning. Because something like this would take a long time for us again, because we have to test materials out over and over again physically. Whereas this reminds me of Iron Man, what's his name?

Tony Stark, when he watched the Avengers movies, and he's doing tests with his computer and testing materials, that's what they do essentially. Except without all the hand motions. Speaking of AI, it's funny, I was having this conversation with cousins around, my cousin Alex, as you guys, we all know. How's his company going?

Going great. Yeah, yeah, he's doing really good with his company and he's in the middle of tech, right? That's his company, Dynasty is a tech company and he talks to these movers and shakers of Silicon Valley and he keeps telling us, you guys have no idea what is about to occur with, in fact, he just told me, anybody who's pursuing, this is from him everybody,

so take it with whatever. He said me, anybody who's pursuing, this is from him everybody, so take it with whatever. He said, if anybody who's pursuing a computer science degree right now, drop out and go do something else. Yeah, I've heard the same thing. He's like, in five years, it'll all be, it's all gonna be, he's like, bro, he said you have no idea how many orders of magnitude

each version's gonna come out. So him and I got in this discussion about artificial general intelligence. And you know, my reserve with that is always, one of the biggest questions humanity's always had, always, always, always, it's been discussed for thousands of years, is what is human consciousness?

Or what is consciousness? We don't even know what it is, and here we are trying to produce it with machines. So what are we making? We don't know. We don't necessarily know what we could potentially use. I mean, do you really think that that's what we're in pursuit of is creating human consciousness?

Or are we, because when I hear these tools, this is what makes me so pro AI, is like what I just discussed on like, I mean that, talk about, I know it's maybe a small percentage of women that have breast cancer, but I mean that radically changes, improves their lives forever that we, and we have tools like that.

The thing that I was bringing up with the medical thing, that could be, that could literally change our society. And how, I mean, such a power, and that same tool, that tool isn't going to turn into Terminator. I mean, it's really just designed, you feed it information, it calculates a bunch of probabilities and tells you some clues into your health and fitness, like, I'm not afraid of that.

I think it's very, very pro and good, whatever. It's like, what part makes you fearful or reluctant, whatever, for lack of better words, of a Terminator? Well, look, we don't know, look, okay, explain what is consciousness, try to explain it. That's the direction we're trying to move. So, hold on, we don't know what it is, and also, let's look at the last big,

big crazy explosion in technological advances. Wait, wait, wait, back up to your first statement. Why do you think that we're trying to do, build human consciousness? Differentiate general intelligence from consciousness do that well I can't them explain it they can't either I know I can't they can't they can't either so what they're trying to make they don't necessarily what they're trying to mirror is what our intelligence is like which come on man

you're now a believer now there's no way you possibly think that a couple stumbling humans are going to, through the process of creating AI, going to stumble upon making human consciousness. No, they won't. They won't. They're going to create a monster. That's my opinion. See, I don't think it'll be a monster.

I think it'll be a robot. Look at nuclear power, right? This was one of the biggest breakthroughs in technological advancements, and what it gave us was the ability to completely destroy ourselves ten times over and people like well Yeah, we haven't had nuclear war yet. It's only been 70 years Like like the potential is there and yes nuclear power is amazing and can do many many incredible things But we have nuclear weapons. So, you know give humans this power That was I mean imagine imagine being the caveman before fire and after fire dude humans this power, which is like a double X4.

Imagine being the caveman before fire and after fire, dude. I mean that was how crazy of a powerful, dangerous tool that was when that came into it. It's in so many orders of magnitude different though. Only, no, only from your perspective. Fire versus a nuke versus AI that is self. From your perspective, yes. From the person who never heard of, thought of, saw, even could imagine fire and then fire came to be,

that had to be, oh my God, this could kill people, I could burn my neighbor down. Well look, I'll do this. I will go to the experts and when you look at scientists who are working on this. I will go to the experts. And when you look at scientists who are working on this, all of them say the same. This is a big deal, very scary, we shouldn't do this. Yet, why do we do it?

Because the other guy's doing it. That's what they say. And they work on this shit. I'm not an expert in this. That's what they're saying. And you know why they're saying we're gonna keep going with this? Because if we don't, the other guy's gonna do it.

And this is the race to the- Well, that's what they're saying we're gonna keep going with this? Because if we don't the other guy's gonna do it. This is the race to... That's what they're working on. They haven't like, there's no autonomous like conscious AI yet. No. Right? So we're feeding it data. We're feeding it like human intelligence. What we've discovered and so it's advancing us to the degree of where human civilizations advanced. But there's degrees beyond that. That's the cautionary part where human civilizations advanced, but there's degrees beyond that. That's the cautionary part where it's like, where are they going to take us? Because really at that point, we're given the helm to this new consciousness.

What does something that is a million times smarter than the smartest human ever, we're like ants. What can we do against this? Oh, we'll put limitations on it. Like it wouldn't be able to figure out. I mean, I guess what I probably think we're more likely to do because we're stupid humans like this is probably fall into the trap

of worshiping something like that. 100%. Oh yeah. And believing it is God or it is better than us. It's like, I think the Antichrist. I think Justin's theory's on point. I mean, I can get more on board on that, that because it does so much, right?

It starts figuring out cancer. It starts solving all of our problems. It starts taking care of our work for us. What human can do that? What human is everybody gonna agree this is the answer for us as humanity? Like, this is not gonna happen. And then it plugs into your brain.

But then we just had, then we had exactly where I called a long time ago, which is you're gonna have a great divide of people that agree to be plugged in and then the unplugged people. The people that are going to adopt it as the end all be all and the smart, you know. Versus the empire.

And then your movie will play out. Hey, you know what's funny about this? Not funny, what's kind of crazy about this? We'll see it in our lifetime. That's the crazy thing Hey, you know what's funny about this? Oh, not funny. What's kind of crazy about this? We'll see it in our lifetime. So we'll know. That's the crazy thing. We'll know who's right.

I hope I'm wrong. I was like, so excited with sci-fi. Oh, this is so wild. It'll never happen. It's happening. Yeah, because every time they come out with a new version, it's like so much more advanced than the previous version. I heard Chamatho also made a comment

that Elon just got to the place where, OK, so I guess his car that he is His AI car as far as safety is is like ten times more capable than the average driver something like that for safety Percussions and he's just Redone it again and it's seven times more Safe than the original like ten times take the averages the stupid people and then like, you know Good drivers versus just average everyday person. It's like that has to Just take the averages of the stupid people and then like, you know, good drivers versus just average everyday person. It's like, that has to be a large sum of error.

I just, you know why I think everything's gonna be, you know what's gonna move everything to self-driving? I think insurance. I think your insurance companies will be like, are you driving your own car? Oh cool, you're gonna pay this much. Oh, you're gonna do self-driving? Premiums.

Then you're only paying five bucks a month or something like that. I bet that's gonna drive. It probably will. Especially like designated roads where everything's automated versus, you're gonna do the old personal driving. I mean, I don't doubt that.

And don't leave it, or don't be surprised when it's someone like Elon who creates the insurance company, right? That does that. Totally. You know, where he's like, here's the deal. You can get insurance for five. I just, I saw on Tucker's thing,

speaking of that, what was the, have you seen the commercial for the phone company just, I saw on Tucker's thing, speaking of that, what was the, did you, have you seen the commercial for the phone company that's like 40 something bucks a month and you get a galaxy free phone? And he calls it like the, and it's, and they use all the network that all the big players use? Yeah, you'll have to look it up under Tucker's, but anyways, it's basically to compete with,

you know, the phone monopolies. Well isn't Starlink gonna change all that anyway? Well that's what I was telling you guys. All your internet and everything from there. Yeah, I heard that Elon's gonna disrupt all that anyways. It's like once he gets to a place where he can connect all of us easily. Do you know anybody who's used Starlink?

Have you guys know anybody who's used Starlink? I know. Well, yeah, just loosely, like a friend, neighbor. And it works exceptional. Yeah, it's totally clear. It's not like satellite where it's like, you know That's why old yeah, that's so cool Yeah

a lot's gonna buy a lot and this the stuff that we're talking about right now in the next 10 years is gonna be Really really different Yeah, it's hard to talk about cuz it's it is it's so wild and the change is so radical Yeah, like that. We're all I mean, I definitely think that is this it up phone up phone. Yes, that's called. I believe so. I mean it's Tucker's Huh up dog? Phones a thousand bucks for the phone I don't think that's it Doug. Hmm. I think it's the phone. That's it. It's a phone that won't exploit your data Yeah, I don't think that's it. This was, it was a service.

When I see drug users, this one's not like tracking you and listening to every conversation you have. I think that's another thing he does. I'll trust them when I see a bunch of drug dealers using it. You know, I tell you what, speaking of like how crazy, I do think that, not to be like a shady plug for us in our business and so with that, but I think the need

for trainers, health professionals, and to keep you is only going to exponentially more important. You get AI in there that starts to take things from people. I mean, look what we've seen already with the door dashes and Ubers and stuff like that. I mean, we've already dramatically reduced labor and what people do for movement. It is going to be absolutely necessary. Every advancement is takes away human movement. Yes.

And we know what that does to people's health and so it is only gonna become more important that. Speaking of which, the whole GLP-1 thing, I was just reading about this, that people are losing weight on it but because they're not strength training and because they're not upping their protein, they're just eating less.

Some women are going in because they just radically cut their calories. So they did, lost a lot of weight, they go in, oh, you're osteopenia now. Now we gotta figure out a way to reverse some of the bone loss. No, they're already facing it. They're like, did GLP-1s cause bone loss?

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Check it out. Our first caller is Jordan from Canada. Hey Jordan. Hi Jordan. How are you? Good morning. Hey guys, I'm good, how are you? We're doing good, how can we help you?

Good, okay, so here's my situation. So, like I said, I'm in Canada for two years, getting my situation. So like I said, I'm in Canada for two years getting my masters. And so I really wanna use these two years to focus on myself. I know I'll never really have this type of time to do just that. I'm alone here and my only real responsibility is school.

So I figured amazing opportunity, focus on my health and wellness and all of that. So I'm actually getting married in two years and will start to think about having kids around that time as well. So I really just wanna be in the healthiest, best place that I could possibly be. Primary goal is building strength and overall health.

Secondary goal, losing some fat. It's secondary, but it's necessary, I think. Here's my problem. I didn't realize how much stress I'd be under during this program and how hectic my schedule would be. I also cannot get sick I've got far too much to do. I know you say to limit the amounts of stress coming from training if you've got a lot going on in other areas of your life. But I really want to make the most of the time I have here and considering I'm

only really training three days a week and sometimes that still feels like a lot Great question So two things one thing you said is I can't get sick. I have too much to do So careful with that mentality because it will drive you to push yourself to your limit on a on a two regular basis Okay, so just check that a little bit. You've got the time, you'll be fine. One of the worst things you could do is to just overdo things, which is easy when you're going for your master's degree

and you have the pressure of I'm gonna get married and I wanna have kids type of deal. It's really easy to inch your way forward doing more and more and more and more. So the first thing I would say for someone like you is be very diligent and consistent with sleep. There is nothing that will positively impact or negatively impact your ability to recover

and repair and your health like sleep. So every night make sure that you have your dedicated eight and a half hours, because it takes 30 minutes to go to sleep So eight and a half hours go to bed and wake up at the same time every day And I would also make sure that you have time on the weekends for the occasional nap or something like that Like sleep is gonna make a huge huge impact as far as strength training is concerned You are absolutely perfectly fine doing two days a week. Two days a week you should see nice consistent progress through this entire thing.

So I would look at two days a week, full body workouts, MAPS anabolic would be a nice blueprint, and you can add in mobility on the off days if you feel like you're too stiff from focusing on the big three type of stuff. Diet wise, whole natural foods, stay away from things that are inflammatory, stay away from alcohol, and I think you're going to be absolutely fine. I think you'll do great through that process. What'll screw you up is if you

start to push, because here's what tends to happen. You're following my advice, let's say, and you're getting stronger and you're feeling good. And then you get that energy to like, yes, I wanna do more, I wanna push harder. And then that's when we start to make those mistakes. On the days you don't do the workouts, I would just walk. I would just make sure you walk. So if you're studying, let's say for four hours, every hour I would go for a five to 10 minute walk,

something like that. Nothing strenuous, just a walk and that tends to improve cognitive function, insulin sensitivity, helps with digestion, it's anti-inflammatory. If you did those things right there, you would cover 99% of everything you're looking for. Sleep and nutrition is everything. You could have five amazing workouts in the week, but sleep is off and nutrition is off and you're not gonna go anywhere progress wise and The reverse is true

You have beautiful sleep and diet for the entire week and you only get one or two workouts in you're gonna see progress So approach this like that that that's where the greatest ROI is for you is to focus on good rest focus on hitting nutrition and for you is to focus on good rest, focus on hitting nutrition. And basically, where are you at? Have you tracked calories right now? Do you have any idea where you are? Metabolism? Tell me where you are. Yeah. So, um, I've spent the last two years really trying to build that, build that up. So I'm at about 2,400 right now. Good, good. You're a good place.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I actually just went into my first cut in like three years Some in that right now, but it's it's feeling good Yeah, excellent, and you have plenty of time right now. So Even that even when you're in these cuts be aware of what's going on at school and and how you are feeling Rest-wise and maybe you start a cut and you think it's a good time but then you realize, oh my god, where finals are coming up or piling on the stuff, maybe this is not the best time for me to be cutting and stressing my body more.

Maybe I'll go back to a maintenance or even a reverse diet during that process and then use the times when school is a little bit easier or maybe you're on break, let those be the times where you push or you accelerate and pushing pushing could mean what you're doing intensity-wise in gym. It could also mean cutting calories because that's pushing your body in a different way, right? You're stressing it by reducing the calories. So be mindful of what's going on with everything else in your life as you move in and out of that. And, you know, I wouldn't stay in a cut for too long. I'd let you do it for a few weeks and then dip out of it,

get back into a place where you're at a maintenance or even a surplus, and then go back to a cut and just kind of bounce, toggle back and forth. Yeah, back and forth like that, real easy, every three weeks or so, and the amount of time that we have before the wedding is plenty of time to build whatever physique that you wanna build. Totally, and now there's three things I would pay attention to that would be

your kind of barometers that will tell you, will give you signs before things get too, before the signs get too loud. One of them is your menstrual cycle. So if you start to notice irregularities in your menstrual cycle, that's an early sign. Hot and cold intolerance. So if you start to notice that you're just cold more so than you normally are, that often can mean a little overstressed, underslept, so a little too high. So if you're like, oh my god, I'm freezing and you're looking at the thermostat, you're like it's 75 in here, why am I feeling so cold? You know, that would be a barometer. Your sleep quality, if you're finding yourself waking up at 3 a.m.

every night or you're kind of restless throughout the evening, waking up at 3 a.m. every night or you're kind of restless throughout the evening that'll tell you that your your stress is a little too high so nice sound consistent sleep throughout the night is a nice gauge that your your your stress bucket isn't overflowing Jordan what are you following one of our math programs right now always yeah I'm busy doing a maps maps I think muscle mummy at the moment perfect just went into it, yeah. Perfect, that's great. And then for a personal standpoint,

I've actually been reading some research on this, and one of the best things somebody can do is to have a couple mentors, and these are just friends that you look to, and then also to have somebody that you mentor. So what that typically looks like is, is a woman that's older than you, that maybe has kids and is married, so that would be the person you talk to, and it could be your mom or it could be someone that you're not related to, and then someone

younger than you that you mentor. And from the data that I'm looking and reading, that really does a phenomenal job of moving people in a positive direction and helping through challenges, kind of have those two ends covered. So that's just another thing to pay attention to. Yeah, yeah, of course. No, thank you. That's great, great advice.

Could I ask a follow-up question? And I know it's not important, but it's just a tiny thing. Sure. So, okay, say you go into like a three week cut or four week cut, and then you're like, okay, I want to go into like two weeks of a surplus. Do you decide what that what those calories are going to be based on the maintenance calories that you went in with the cut or should you adjust for some

metabolic adaption? That's a great question. It is a great question. I think the easy answer though is just to go off of what your maintenance was and what might happen, which is a great sign, is when you go, let's say we've decided 2400 is your maintenance and then you go back and you're like, I'm just going to add 200 calories, so I'm going to go to 2600 in the bulk. But you see the scale go down or you're just and you're not putting any weight on, maybe I can go up an extra hundred calories because maybe we your metabolism has been speeding up.

So I would adjust, I would use the maintenance always as kind of the barometer and then based off of what I'm seeing in that first week or two, I may adjust it because ideally we want to keep creeping the calories up ideally but what's going on stress sleep all other factors can play a big role in that how that body responds so use that as your baseline and then if you can adjust it by adding more calories. Yeah another strategy would be let's say it's 2,400 calories you go down to 1,900 calories for a cut after three weeks you go up to 2,200 calories then you go up to 2,400 calories the next week and then you go back down to 2200 calories, then you go up to 2400 calories the next week,

and then you go back down to 19 or 2000. So you could also step, step ladder it so you don't have, you know, if you're worried about why, you know, fluctuations. Okay. Yeah, that, that makes sense. Um, yeah, thank you. I definitely think I will lay off training a little bit because definitely a lot colder than usual

and my sleep has been shipped, so. I'm glad we had the conversation. Jordan, are you in our private forum yet? No, I'm not. I'm gonna have Doug put you in there. So I'll have Doug put you in the Facebook forum and then if you just stay in touch with us as you go through this process.

So check in with us every once in a while, let us know how you're doing, if you have questions, and then hopefully we can help guide you through this. Yeah, by the way right now if you're If you're feeling like you're a little over trained Doug is our is our recovery guide the seven-day recovery is that available? Do we put that out yet? I don't know off check our site here. Okay, if we have we have this guide It's like a seven-day rescue guide to get your body to recover faster If we have that we'll send that over to you I just created it if you don't just check in with us on the forum and then we'll get it over when we do have it.

Yeah, but it's really good. It's like seven days getting your body back on track type of deal. Incredible. Okay, well thank you so much, Guy. And so much love for you guys, all that you do. You're incredible. Thank you so much. We appreciate the support. Thank you. Thank you so much. We appreciate the support. Thank you Okay, I I love getting people her age. Yeah Doing this because it sets the stage For the rest of their life to really understand what's happening a lot of times women in particular Men to but women in particular they don't figure this stuff out with you know

How to really treat their bodies till later and they spend their 20s in this really bad place, feeding themselves up and being under-caloried and overworked. Yeah, the things it's marketed to or sold to the young girl versus the young guy is far more detrimental when sold to the girl. Yeah. The guy is, get big, get jacked, right?

So when you're young, it's like, eat like crazy. Get good sleep, and grow. Yeah, and so that, even though isn't great advice, isn't as detrimental as telling the girl, look like this, eat like this, and it's like cutting the calories as low, doing high intensity cardio, the things that are sold to women

are far more dangerous metabolically than what's sold to a young man. Even though both could be unhealthy, what's being sold to them at a young age is far worse. Our next caller is Evelina from Washington. Hi, Evelina. Hello. How are you? Oh my goodness.

Okay. Hi. I'm ecstatic to meet with you guys. Thank you. Good to see you. If you don't mind, I would like to read my question. Otherwise you. Good to see you. If you don't mind, I would like to read my question. Otherwise I would just mumble. Go for it.

Hi, saw Adam and Justin. I have been listening to your podcast for over three years and it's really changed my life. So thank you. Ever since the episode, Why Women Should Bulk, you stole my heart completely and I will be forever grateful for everything you do. You have inspired me to become a personal trainer, to certified in corrective exercises and also I'm completing L1 from NCI

and I don't think I'll stop there. And most importantly, you taught me that we have to question everything. I have been a personal trainer at the Big Box gym since September 24 and was promoted to master trainer in October. A few months in and I now have a wait list and I am booked weeks in advance

thanks to the high demand for my unique approach. Always meeting clients where they are at, teaching them how to build a healthy relationship with fitness and nutrition long term, and helping them feel comfortable while believing in their ability to do hard things. As one form of encouragement, I occasionally perform an exercise alongside them, but I never overlook their form and always adjust the intensity as needed. My clients appreciate my style, the visuals this provides and the knowledge I share thanks to you. Many have also mentioned that seeing me struggle in front of them at times, it actually inspires them to overcome their own fear of failure. However, training

full-time and working with clients has added significant volume, leaving me sometimes fatigued. I am currently recovering from overtraining and RABDO diagnosed in April 24. And I would like to adjust my routine to rebuild my strength, hopefully lower my body fat percentage. I'm right now at 20%. I would feel much more comfortable at the 15 but I was in the past as low as 9% and I would love to maybe prepare for a future powerlifting competition. be prepared for a future powerlifting competition. Right now my weight is 145 pounds and I'm at 2200 calorie maintenance. Currently running MAPS anabolic, my weight is stable, clothes started feeling better and strength is slowly increasing. I should also mention that while I am not comfortable with my current body fat percentage, I would love to know my hormones are finally

returning to baseline after being undetectable for years. So I have three questions I would like to ask you. Given my background, number one, most trainers in my gym will only demonstrate one rep of a movement and I am the only one that will perform a full set if I see the client that they need the visual with tempo or posture. Is it wrong to occasionally perform a simple exercise with them? And I mean that in the sense of whether it's professional or not. My second question would

be for my own goals, which MAPS program would be the most appropriate, and number three would be on the nutrition, I would love your advice. This has been a long struggle for me, but thanks to Sal's advice, a year ago, I was able to reverse from 1500 to currently at 2300. However, I still feel like I'm on a cut. I'm very hungry and always looking forward to my next meal. So to sum up, if I would like to drop a little bit of my body fat, should I continue reversing or cut first and then reverse again? Thank you so much and I can't wait to hear you say. Thank you. Evelina, I love you. You're one of my favorite people in the forum. Wonderful success story. I remember when we first're one of my favorite people in the forum Wonderful success story I remember when you first we first talked and kind of where your body was and

Couldn't figure out why the the muscle breakdown was happy was a scary time for you And you've stuck to it and you're bringing yourself to a healthy place. You look healthy. You look great You look healthy and I'm really happy to hear this All right. Let me answer your first question. So You look healthy and I'm really happy to hear this. Alright, let me answer your first question. So clients do appreciate it when you perform a movement next to them because it keeps them engaged, it also gives them a visual, but there is a way to do it

without having to perform the exercise with them, especially if you're finding, because that's a lot of volume, like even if you don't use any weight, if you're training eight people in a day, and you're performing body weight squats, and body weight this, and body, just to do a full set, and you're doing a full set, like it's If you're training eight people in a day and you're performing bodyweight squats and bodyweight this and body just to do a full set and you're doing a full set like it's like you're doing a little mini workouts all day

long yeah and it can it can it could really break your body down over the year you know you do it for a week or two it's not a big deal but if you do a day in day out so one thing you can do and so I did not demonstrate exercises with people all the time because of that but what I did do is I would stay very engaged with the client. I'd walk around them. I would use my fingers and of course with their approval and I would bring your hips back a little here, squeeze your delts back a little bit there, watch your elbows. So I'm still staying engaged with the client and I found that that would give them even

better engagement than me performing the exercise next to them. Because what the client wants to feel is that they're being coached, that they're being watched, and that they're being supported. And that's what's happening when you do the exercise next to them. But it's also what can happen when you,

and this is how I used to train my trainers, walk around the client as they're doing the set. Don't take your eyes off of them. Let them know when they're doing a great job, but also let them know when they need to change their technique. So in other words, they feel like you're engaged the entire time.

So that's how I would do it, and it's way easier on your body. This is like a similar conversation I've had with massage therapists that have worked with me, where they had to change their technique because they would start to have pain in their wrists and their shoulders.

And it's like, it's a physical job. Being a trainer is relatively active and if you turn it into exercise throughout that you're not gonna have a long you're not gonna have longevity in the field it's gonna start to really cause problems for you. It does look more professional to what Sal's saying. I mean you look more like a technician who is really dialing in and focused on them versus a trainer who's motivating them through the workout, working out side by side. So for the outside person who doesn't know any better, they see you working out side by side with the client.

They're like, oh, that's cool. She's motivating her to keep going or do it together versus the trainer who's walking around and moving the shoulders and looking and kneeling down at one angle, then go to the other side, look at another angle and then pausing them in the middle of the set and saying, oh, pull your shoulders back. That looks way more professional. So it's not that the other way looks bad or isn't good or unprofessional.

It's that you moving around and analyzing every movement they're doing in a set is far better for you on a professional level and also physically to you because that's just a lot of reps all day long. Yeah. They'll appreciate it because they'll be able to take all those cues that you're pointing out and carry it with them after they're working with you. So that's the other thing is to teach them how to fish, right? Is to teach them how to actually produce these movements on their own. And so the constant reiteration of, you know, those cues of bringing the shoulders back,

of drawing the stomach in, of drawing the stomach in, of staying tight. As you're doing the exercise next to them, a lot of times their body is just naturally going to compensate to make it a little easier. And so just the little reminders, they're going to really appreciate that. Yeah, it's actually quite, it's very effective. That's exactly how we would teach our trainers. I know your last question was in reference to your nutrition.

Now knowing where you came from and where you're at now and the fact that you're still hungry, I would like to see you continue to move in the positive with your calories. Now, you don't have to push it hard. You could go slow, but continue to slowly build your body. I still believe now you're on the other end of where you were, but you're still in the recovery phase. It's gonna take a little longer to continue in this phase before we start to bring you back down. It's like your body's giving you a little bit of a breather

and it's like, okay, I think we're safe now. What you don't wanna do is be like, nope, you're not safe, let's go back again. I think we should stay where we're at, slowly move up, especially if you're hungry. If you're hungry, by the way, very good sign. This is a good sign that we can move the calories up a little bit. You could go up 100 calories a week if you want, keep it slow, and then focus on, continue

focusing on getting stronger. By the way, your body fat percentage is excellent. Like 20%, 20 to 23, 24% for a trainer, a female trainer is actually ideal. When you get down to like 15 and it's, I mean it's cool, and I know us fitness fanatics, we like to see the veins and the striations, but it's not a place to live in at all for most.

You want to live in that low 20% because it's lean, it's healthy, your hormones are going to maintain in a good place, your menstrual cycle is okay, you're not going to get these weird symptoms of being too lean or whatever. So I think where you're at is perfectly fine. I would bump the calories, continue, and I would focus on strength. I think MAPS Power Lift might even be a program that you move into so long as you stop working out with your clients. If you stop working out with your clients, I think Maps Power Lift would be perfectly

fine. Yeah, yeah. If you keep working out with them, it would be too much. But if you stop that, I'm assuming your schedule, if you have a wait list, you're probably, how many sessions a week are you averaging? I'm doing about 12, 10 to 12 sessions per day, five times a week. Oh, wow. Yeah, well, you know, yeah, you got to. That's a lot. day, five times a week. Oh, wow. Hey, Olina, yeah, you got to...

That's a lot. Yeah, that's a lot. That's 15 is probably better. Yeah, Maps 15, Maps Anabolic, maybe even Maps PowerLift, but stop working out with your clients, for sure. That's a lot. You are crushing it as a trainer. I absolutely would not let you cut. I think everything that you... Just that would not be in not at least not right now.

Everything you just said about your body, the signs with your period, with your hunger, like these are all positive things. And the fact that you're only at 20% body fat, you're still lean in my eyes. And so I would want to continue to go that direction before even considering letting you go the other way. Always good to have good self-awareness too about ourselves. We perceive ourselves a lot different than probably everybody else is. I bet if I asked any of your clients, any of your friends, family members, how they think you look, they would probably say, oh my God, she's in such great shape or she's

so fit. Yet you perceive yourself as, oh, I want to be leaner than what I'm at. So it's important that you know that about yourself, that it's you, we have a bit of a distorted view of our own bodies and that you're in a very good place. And your, your body is telling you it's giving you all the signs that you're in a very good place right now. And so us going back the other direction is only flirting with going, the going back to where we were.

And I just, I wouldn't want to do that with you. You're in, you're in too good of a place right now. flirting with going back to where we were. And I just, I wouldn't want to do that with you. You're in too good of a place right now and the body is rewarding you for being there. Stay there or increase a little bit. Yeah, and Evelina, people don't know but training 10 to 12 people a day is way more than it sounds

because you're on all day long. That's taxing. That's very taxing. I did 10 to 12 sessions a day for a while when I owned my studio. It was a lot. It was a lot. You put out so much energy. So, I mean, great job with your successful career.

I mean, that's excellent. You got manager ahead of you if you want. I'm assuming the big box probably looking at you to potentially promote you. Yeah, maybe. For now, I'm loving what I'm doing. Um, the reason why it's so many sessions, because some of the sessions are very short, they are like 25 to 30 minutes only. So I am really on, uh, nonstop pretty much.

Oh man. That's a lot. Yeah. So, well, great. Yeah. No good. There was a second question. Did we miss one of your questions?

Um, it was about the maps, but we talked about it. So I'm in like the first phase. I did the preface just to kind of regroup myself and now I'm entering the five by five, uh, in the maps and the Bollocks. So I, should I switch to power lift? Cause it's going to be similar. I would finish maps and a Bollabolic, stop working out with your clients. Yeah, that's for sure. And then you can flirt with PowerLift and see how you feel.

Do you have that program? Can we send that to you? I do have it. I do have that one. I have most of your programs, I think, except the newest one that you guys launched, which is the- 15 performance. Yeah.

Oh, let me send that to you. That's gonna be a good one for you. Yeah, that's a good one for you to have. Yeah, you me send that to you. That's going to be a good one for you. Yeah, that's a good one for you to have. Yeah, you'll like that. I think it's very important that you're aware of how your body is feeling as you thought that amount of training clients where you're currently at. If you notice you start to stall or see any of these signs of over training, it'd be smart to go back to like a Maps 15 and let your body recover a little bit before you go back to power. If you feel great, metabolism's on fire, you're you're hungry you're strong you're getting good sleep then you know I would say go ahead and do power lift but I would also be wanting you to kind of check in

with yourself too like okay do I feel as good as I think I feel or am I kind of stalling in my progress stalling because I'm pushing too much I got got too much going on. Did you say your hormones are coming back to normal now? Yeah. Yes. After four years of not having my menstrual cycle, I just got it back. Now. Yeah. Amazing. Yeah. The doctors couldn't believe it because they already, they, they diagnosed me with perimenopause. Even though I'm below 40, but they said, maybe that's what it is. And then we mentioned that. And I think you mentioned on the podcast as well about the body fat percentage and that's how a low body fat percentage can affect a woman can lose their period. And my doctor

was like, well, that's an interesting approach when I mentioned it to her. I said, okay, so let's slowly go up. And then I was diagnosed with Raptor so I had to stop working out. And what actually happened was that I slowly gained weight because I kept my calories the same. I didn't want to go lower. And I did a DEXA scan between April and September and I gained 10 pounds but seven pounds of muscle yeah almost nothing lots of walking so that was also pretty crazy for me because I have been losing muscles for so long and I think that was the overtraining part yeah I watch you carefully in the forum. You look great

You're going in the right direction killing it. Stay the course stay the course. You're doing great. Yep Thank you. Oh my god. Thank you so much. You got it. We'll see you in the forum She's one of my favorite people in there is I mean remember when she was and she didn't know why she had rábdo What was going on crazy and it was all because she was just over-trained, under-fed, over-trained. Remember when I was, I talked to you guys about the, we were talking about like the cosmetic surgeries, the perception drift?

Yes. You know, that's an example of that, where she's pushed her body to such low body fat percentage for so long, she has this perception of herself of what she thinks is ideal and it's just not. And it's important that we're all aware of that. Like you can do that to yourself.

And the extreme version of that is when we see that with cosmetic surgery. But that can happen too with fitness, with people pushing their bodies to extreme levels that they now think of that they use that as like, oh, this is normal. And then as they get outside of that range, they think, oh God, I gotta go back the other way. When it's like, she's saying all these things that our body's like, I got my period back, I'm hungry, I'm like all these positive things, I'm stronger, it's like no, do not get out of this,

like you're going the right, that's your body telling you you're going the right direction, yet still having that desire to wanna go back the other direction, it's wild. And what we talked about for her as a trainer, trainers and coaches listening, like that is the most professional way to train and coach a client is to walk around them, add cues and stay engaged. Period.

End of story. Our next caller is Jolene from Illinois. Hi, Jolene. Hi, Jolene. Hello. Hello. Hi guys. How can we help you?

Ah, it's so nice to see you in person. Thank you. Um, I have kind of a protein question, so I'll just read my email so that you have my background and I'll jump right in. Sounds good. So I'm 43 female, 230 pounds, five feet eight. I have kind of struggled with my weight my whole life. Um, but I've always been kind of manageably chubby like around 185 like all the way

up until I turned 40 and then since then I've been steadily gaining. That's about the time I found you guys and Shaleen Johnson is actually who kind of introduced me to you guys so I'm grateful for her pointing us in your direction. So I have started HRT and I've been on it for since about October and I feel like a complete new person. I know that most of my symptoms have been perimenopause. So the question really is now that I have my mental capacity back and am starting to feel more energy.

I don't ever want to be 120 pounds. That's not my goal. But that's kind of where I feel like the medical community thinks somebody for my height should be. So do I... What's the recommendation? I don't want to eat 180 grams and eighty grams of protein. Like how do I how do I navigate that? It's still helped meet my goals. Oh good question. So your

question essentially is how many grams of protein should you aim for? And I know it's a pound. Yes. But that seems daunting still. No it is. 180 grams or 190 grams of protein is hard for me to hit hit so 100% no I get what you're saying I think if you did 130 grams of protein or 140 grams of protein a day from Whole Natural Foods ate it first that you would be fine great yeah you'd be totally fine okay okay because and I've I've done all the things right I've done all I've ketoed I've Mediterranean I've done all the things, right? I've done all, I've ketoed, I've Mediterraneaned, I've done all the things and I've always come back.

So that's what I mean. The goal is to just figure out the lifestyle. I put in my email, I've listened to all your stuff about GLP-1s and I just, I'm not ready for that. Because even though I am chubby, I'm strong still. I still have maintained a lot of my muscle mass and I am terrified of losing more. Like everything you say about my longevity is keeping that muscle mass. And I don't,

I don't really want to go down that road because I already struggled to do all of the things feeling well. Like if it starts to make me feel terrible, I just see myself spiraling down and then losing all the muscle mass that I already have. Yeah, no, I mean really good feedback. So what I hear from you is like, hey if I do a GLP-1, I feel like it's gonna mess with me a little bit. I do. Yeah, no, that's a very very valid concern and so I don't don't go on a GLP-1. Follow, you know, hit 130-140 grams of protein grams protein a day eat it first stick to whole natural foods

And that should take you pretty far You know avoid heavily processed foods that and then from there you could do the tracking and that type of stuff But I think you'd be perfectly fine Okay, and I'm on I'm doing map starter. I've had it for quite a while but I keep, you know I'm a mom, she's eight, life gets in the way and then I fall off the wagon so I've started over and I love it and I'm not doing, I'm probably not doing the five days a week but I'm at least doing it twice a week lifting good. I'm getting 8000 steps a day at least. So I've really like I do feel a lot better just in the last like

two or four weeks that I've been pushing it but man I just I don't know it's this time of year for me with my job I sit in my desk all day and like I already am at a weight that's higher than I've ever been so it's like I just am almost terrified to not to not figure this out right now you did figure it out you have the answers I want you to take a deep breath you're doing you're doing totally fine yeah you're heading the right way consistent two days a week of strength training with your steps on a daily basis hitting those protein targets

daily from whole natural foods, avoiding heavily processed foods, that's it. That'll get you very far. And just being consistent with that. If you did five days a week of strength training and then missed a month because, oh gosh, it's so hard. And if that's not nearly as effective as two days a week every week, and then doing the steps, you're totally fine. And then doing the steps. You're totally fine.

And give yourself a break, it's totally fine. Because the stress from feeling like I have to do these things if I don't, oh my God, what's gonna happen, is why you're going on and off the wagon. Because if this process is stressful to you, you're going to take a break from it. You're gonna wanna run from it. And then you'll rebuild yourself back up

and then the shame kicks in and then I start the whole thing back up again. You wanna follow it in a way to where it doesn't add stress but makes you feel less stressed. Yeah. Joanne, have you considered ever getting a trainer, a coach to do this with you? I wish I could.

I live in a very rural area. So, and based with my work schedule, like I could be to work at 7 a.m. And then during the growing season, like in the summer, a lot more like 6 a.m. So it's just really hard to fit that in. And then with my daughter's activities and things like that in the afternoon, you

know what I mean? Like I have tried and then I end up paying for it and never getting there. What about a virtual coach? Yeah, what about a virtual coach? Yeah, I suppose I probably could. I've never. I'm gonna have, I'm gonna have, I'm gonna have Kyle reach out to we do that. We don't tell people. We just don't have a ton of availability. Yeah, so we don't have a lot of availability. In fact, I know this guy's schedules are pretty

full right now. But when we talk to someone like you and I hear a story like that, I think I feel like if I was talking to you once a week that I can help keep you on the right path because you're already on the right path. I feel like you're doing really good. I think having me there to talk to you once a week just to make sure you stay on that path and if and when we have a setback, I'm there to make sure to keep you going in the right direction would be super beneficial to you. So if you're open to that I'll have him email you and reach out and do like a consult with you and then you guys can decide

what something you want to do. Thank you that's amazing. Yeah I've never I don't really know where I would look around here for something like that I suppose so that we got you. Yeah we have we have good ones. Yeah I'll have Kyle reach out to you and then we'll go from there. You're doing good. You're doing good. You're doing good. You're in a good place. I think you have the right mindset. I love too the fact that you're paying attention to the steps. Keep walking. Keep walking. You know I'm saying especially when you have a stressful day and you got a lot going on don't put a lot of pressure on yourself that you got to go do this you got to go do that or if you

have a bad day maybe nutritionally just go for a nice walk. Go for a walk, keep those steps moving, that'll help bring down the stress, decompress and keep you in that active lifestyle. So just keep walking like you're doing and keep doing what you're doing. Awesome. Thank you guys. I owe it all to you because I was the, you're, I mean I even listen to the podcast that don't pertain to me per se like the ones where you talk to your trainers and I always just get so many you know tidbits out of it so I appreciate like how real you are even for somebody a middle-aged mom like it's not intimidating you guys are very open

and welcoming and I appreciate that thank you so much thank you that means a lot we're gonna reach out Jolene I'll have someone reach out to me. All right. Thank you. Yeah, you know, for people watching and listening, like, you know, the stress around, oh my God, I'm gonna fail, what am I gonna do, okay, I gotta do this again, or whatever, like that makes it so hard.

And I can feel it from her. I'm so glad you offered me the opportunity to drive her to go off. I can feel that she's somebody that, when she has those days. The coach will help so hard. And I can feel it from her. I'm so glad you offered me to coach you driver to go off. I can feel that she's somebody that, when she has those days. The coach will help so much. Yeah, because she probably beats herself up, mad at herself. Oh, I can't believe I did that.

Failing. Yeah, and then kind of throws the arms up, where it's like you just need somebody kind of there to be like, hey, don't trip. Don't worry about it. Until she starts to change the relationship with those things, which is what a coach, really good coach will do.

But her mindset's in the right place. So hopefully Kyle will be able to get with her and really help her out. So Doug, if you can get her, he emailed Kyle, let him know. Our next caller is Amy from New Mexico. Hi, Amy. Hello.

How can we help you? OK, I'm just going to read my question. Oh, I'm so excited. Sorry. Okay. So I have been listening to you for about eight years, at least. It took me a very long time to trust you three enough, well, really four enough to do a few programs. And I have seen success and am continuing to be grateful for the valuable information

and the progress and lessons that I've learned from your expertise. So this has brought me to ask this question. I hear Adam and all of you actually speak about the trainer and coach course, you know, all the different things that you offer for trainers. I am a wellness coach sort of. Here's where it gets tricky. So I am a nutritional detoxification specialist at Colon Hydrotherapist, an ozone practitioner, so O3, which is like the hawk at sauna I have behind me.

So I do a lot of kind of gray area, not gray area, but just alternative, very alternative medicine. I work in a in a two story functional medicine doctor's office. So there's many doctors that we have on staff here. And that being said, I run my own business out of the office. So I have two different businesses that I run out of this office. So I'm I am like responsible for my own I have two different businesses that I run out of this office. So I'm, I am like responsible for my own clients. Um, I have built this business to be very successful three X in my business.

Um, during the pandemic, when it's very challenging to get people to come to a very personal appointment, um, and now to the real question, would I be an appropriate client for your live webinars and coaching? I wanted to sign up, but then I'm like, I don't know if that's appropriate. You've helped me in so many other areas of my life, really, truly. And I was just hoping that you could guide me to bring my business from six figures to seven in the future.

So, yeah, that's the question. 100%. 100%. 100%. Especially what our course focused on. So when we built that, our desire was not to compete with NASM and AFA and all the other great courses that were out there, we really wanted to fill the gap on the business side. Once you've got your profession and in your case, what you are certified in, what you know how to do, how do you take that knowledge and then scale and build a business in this digital and real world? So this was really what we focused on.

So that would apply to chiropractors, acupuncturists, functional medicine, trainers, all the above, that course is for that person. And the webinars and the stuff we talk about. It's about lead generation, it's about converting sales, it's about email marketing, I mean all the things that will support your business and or a trainer's business is what we really dive into.

We're not gonna teach you in the course how to use ozone therapy more effectively. We're not gonna teach you about colon hydrotherapy. By the way, I wanna say this on the side. I love what you do. So I worked with, I had people that I would refer to, some of my clients too that did what you did and for detoxifying, especially with heavy metals

and parasite treatment and stuff like that, like exceptional stuff. So anybody watching, like if you find someone like this and you're struggling with toxic levels of heavy metals or some of the plastics that are, I mean, I think these are services that are more valuable today than ever, but just because of the way our environment is. Yeah, so that's just a side note.

Yeah, I only see it getting busier and busier. And there's only one of me, and I have someone that, I have a partner that works with me also, but we're open seven days a week. And you know, you have to be really, you have to trust somebody to have them, sorry, I'm just gonna, can I just say it? Yeah, yeah.

Have them stick a tube up your ass, you know? It's not a requirement. So I mean, my clients trust me. Totally. I'm just gonna, can I just say it? I'm sick as two of your ass. You know, it's hard. So I, I mean my clients trust me. You know? And I take a lot of pride in what I do. I'm very, very, very professional and I love what I do. It's very, it's a little bit, you know, people, my family thinks I'm a witch doctor, you know, so.

Well. People need me and I know that. Yeah, but these, you know how it is, like what you do now in 10 years, 20 years will be mainstream. That's right, that's right. But yeah, okay, so our course really is about building your business.

It's not about teaching you how to do what you do any better, it's about building better relationships with your clients, there's parts of that in there as well, but it's about building your business. Also, I wanna ask you this, because you're six figures, you wanna go to seven, do you use a good CRM? Do you have a model where you can manage things

like email flow and all that stuff? That's what I need help with. Oh, Amy. This is what we do. Amy, this is it. You're gonna wanna work with us, because CRM normally costs thousands of dollars a month, This is what we do. Amy, this is it. You're gonna wanna work with us because if you go, CRM normally costs like thousands of dollars a month,

so ours is not, you get all the benefits without paying, like you'll pay 10 times less, and we're trying to disrupt the industry. So 100% you would benefit from working with us. Especially someone like you, as organized and professional as you are, you'll find so many uses from the CRM. It's a complete CRM.

Yeah. Amy, when we get off right now, I'm gonna have Anne, is that the best email, the body flow, that one? Is that the best email? Yeah, yes. I'm gonna have Anne, who's our educator, she'll email you and set up a phone call so she could actually share everything

that we're talking about. So she'll share in detail so you get an idea of everything. And then, absolutely, I look forward to seeing you in there. You're the perfect client. Oh yeah, oh yeah. Especially using the CRM, that's gonna scale you so effectively and efficiently for sure. Thank you so much.

Thank you. I really look forward to working with you and learning. I'm just, I know that this is what I need for the next step. I have, you know, all the other things kind of zipped up and ready and just, this is just, you know, there's only so much time and day. And only one of me or my assistant, only one of her. So we really need to, this is what we need to scale,

I think, so. Oh, you will. Yeah, no, I'm excited for you, Amy. You're a perfect client for us to help out. So look for that email. I'll have Anne within the hour reach out to you and then get in contact and then we'll see you inside there. Yep.

Thank you, guys. Awesome, Amy. Hey, if you're from Santa Fe, come see me. Yes. Yeah, Justin will do that for you. I'm ready. It'll blow your mind. As long as you're gentle.

As long as you're gentle. Bye, thanks, guys. do that for you. I'm ready. Yeah, it'll blow your mind. As long as you're gentle. As long as you're gentle. Bye, thanks guys. See you, Amy. Yeah. That's great. No, great. Have you had anyone do that?

Not to me, no. Good. But, Yes. Yes. But I've had, I had so, you know, and by the way, this was 15 years ago, right? You would deal with, and again,

this was all, this was even less mainstream back then, but you have people with heavy metal toxicities and certain plastics and chemical issues, and just issues with the body's detox systems. I know this sounds to the Western medicine doctors, they rolled their eyes, but listen, this can be a real thing. And you have the traditional treatment.

I had a client do it. Yeah, and you have the traditional treatment. I had a client do it. Yeah, and you have the traditional treatment where you give them chelating compounds and you support the liver and you use them in the sauna, but sometimes this stuff gets really nasty. You get really bad Herxheimer effect with people who are treating parasites and stuff. When they would, I had people do ozone, hydrotherapy,

and it sped the process up considerably. So I had a place that I refer people to. I don't even know if it's still there. I mean this is basically, they flush you all the way out, right, no kidding. Yeah, but it's part of a protocol. So you don't just go in and oh here you go, you feel better, not constipated or whatever.

She's gonna give them a whole diet along the way. I mean she's in a functional medicine office because she's part of a protocol. It's not just go in there, get partial, you know, temporary relief. Another part of the treatment. Got a great little business already. Totally. She's scaled to six figures's scaled to six figures. The CRM alone. I know she's perfect for us. The CRM alone will take her to seven figures just the way that

it manages everything puts everything in one place. I'm glad we got a question like that because I think there is a misconception around our course that people think it's probably just for trainers and it's really I mean if business. Yeah pretty much all practitioners. Anything in the health nutrition field and you're an entrepreneur trying to scale your business, both the course and the CRM is our clientele. We haven't even advertised the CRM heavily yet but that's like this is. Turn key and we're actually gonna help. Industry disrupting. That was the goal. The goal is to put it out there and just crush everybody else because we're

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