Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 2715: 7 Lies That Destroy Men

Episode Date: October 27, 2025

7 Lies That Destroy Men 7 Lies That Destroy Men. (1:33) #1 - Pornography, what’s the big deal? (3:01) #2 - Video games, they’re fun. (12:39) #3 - Consumerism. (18:55) #4 - Your value is connected to how much you can earn. (22:07) #5 – Passivity. (26:06) #6 – Alpha male/False masculinity. (30:32) #7 - Chase lots of women. (32:06) Related Links/Products Mentioned Here’s How To Break Free From Porn, Restore Intimacy In Your Relationships & Live A Life of Freedom Using The DeepClean™ System. Access to masterclasses on intimacy, purpose, and healthy relationships. A private brotherhood community for daily accountability and support. Visit: https://deepcleancoaching.com/mindpump **Plus, all members who join get MAPS 15 for free . There’s a 30-day money-back guarantee, so you’ve got nothing to lose. ** October Special: MAPS GLP-1 50% off! ** Code GLP50 at checkout. ** Mind Pump Store Mind Pump #2705: How to Quit Pornography with Sathiya Sam Mind Pump #2132: Six Reasons Men Today are Weak Here’s Proof Buying More Stuff Actually Makes You Miserable The Impact on Kids of Dad's Faith and Church Attendance Mind Pump Podcast – YouTube Mind Pump Free Resources People Mentioned Dan Bilzerian (@danbilzerian) Instagram  

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hit pause, head on over to mindpumpstore.com. That's it. Enjoy the rest of the show. Fellas, it's a dangerous world out there. There's a lot of things that could damage you, harm you, or destroy you. But there are some things that are more damaging than others, particularly because they're sold to you as accepted lies. We're going to talk about seven of those lies that are destroying men. Let's get into it.

I don't remember when we did something kind of like this. I know a couple of the things that we're going to talk about were in that, but it definitely stirred up some controversy. So it would be interesting. I'm curious to see if the tone of the audience or our culture right now. The climate's changed a little. He's changing a little bit since that because I feel like a lot's happened since that podcast. I think so.

And we'll find out, I guess, shortly. Yeah, what makes the ones we're going to talk about today so dangerous is that they're sold as harmless, you know, not a big deal. Harmless or even positive. Some of them are sold to as positive. So they're damaging because you buy into the lie that they're good for you or that they're harmless. So there are a lot of things out there that, like, if I were to say, like, number one, hard drugs, right? I think everybody would like, duh.

Like, everybody knows hard drugs will destroy you. but the ones we're going to talk about are oftentimes overlooked or even sold to us as good, which makes them incredibly damaging. So I'll start with the first one, which is pornography. And the lie around pornography is it's not a big deal. Nobody's getting hurt. Like what's the big deal? Like you're looking at some videos or some pictures, like, how is this going to really harm me?

Now, I could pull up, I have data. And today, I think more men than ever are aware of some of the damaging effects of pornography. So I'll go over what the data says, okay? Porn users have reduced gray matter volume and reward-related areas. They have altered functional connectivity and hypontality, meaning the frontal lobe of the brain isn't as active as it could be. They're hyper reactive to cues. So these are typically like porn-related cues. So their brains kind of get wired for that.

And then they have a dopamine reward system that is damaged and desensitized. So let's talk about those for a second. So all of those point to a brain that has adapted to, for all intents and purposes, a drug. Yeah. A drug. And so you perceive reward differently and you're desensitized to things that you normally would be sensitized to. And this is incredibly destructive for relationships. And it also changes how you are around sex and sexual arousal.

And I think a lot of men are starting to realize this. Destroys intimacy. I mean, it really puts damage at least in between that connection that you have with your partner. partner. It's just one of those things. It's elusive. It's something that you don't really notice right away. It may act as a stimulant in that direction, but can really take a hold to you. Is it the same thing or similar to what processed foods does to you in comparison to eating whole food? That's right. Which is why if you eat a highly processed diet, you may notice things like fruit, taste bland. That's right. And you don't enjoy it. Water.

You can't drink. You don't like drinking it because it's so bland versus somebody who is strictly on a whole food diet. Biting into a juicy apple or peach is like one of the most enjoyable things you possibly can. Is it very, what's going on a neurological level? Is it similar what's happening? Yeah, very much so. And even, you know, as they track, even pornography trends start to, they're over time have become more and more and more extreme. and the turn they'll use as hardcore because the normal consumer is becoming desensitized

to the normal style. And why brought it to that comparison? Because I don't know how aware you are of that with your own personal habits or behaviors. But, you know, I've had enough times in my life where I've had my diet way out of whack and in check and times where there's a little bit of processed food versus a lot of processed food. And it's interesting how much your palate changes. and how much you can have these, like, ultra-process, sweet, greasy foods

when you slowly adapt to it. You can go hand me a twinkie dipped in grease, and I would, I'll be on the toilet throw, or it would be just too much. I couldn't handle that. But, you know, if I ate fast food once a day for long enough, and then I ate fast food twice a day long enough, then that stuff, it's interesting how much your palate starts to adapt

and move, and then you only crave that really greasy, nasty, highly processed types of foods. And so it seems like it's almost similar like that, too. It's like maybe it starts off with just a little bit of like innocent pornography here and there. And then it's like, oh, that doesn't really work like it used to work. And so I need a little more hardcore or a little more novel. It seems like it's a very similar progression. By the way, this data is on what they consider regular porn users, which is three to four times a week. we know what the average pornography user uses three to four times a week so a lot of people are like

well this is only damaging if you're like an addict and it's like you know getting the way of work and stuff like that like no the average user is having a lot of these these types of issues and it changes how you perceive things it encourages objectifying yourself and other bodies and there are mirror neurons in the brain that are activated when you're observing certain things that then are probably going to change your behaviors. Now, the evidence of this is how you'll see men, this is quite common now, who have erectile dysfunction when they're with their partner because it's not as stimulating as pornography or reports of men who ask their partners to do things that they see in pornography because

the mirror neurons are activated. this voyeurism is one of them because you're watching people do things and you're literally wiring your brain to want to watch rather than be involved so it's incredibly damaging and it's damaging spiritually as well you are looking at sex and through this one narrow thing which is stimulating and maybe pleasure although I would say it's even it's it's beyond pleasure and it's completely negating all the other, you know, benefits that come from a healthy sex life. And then the data shows that people with the most rewarding sex lives are people in their 60s who've been married forever who don't consume pornography or never have. So the data is very clear on this.

There's such a positive and rewarding side to this that I think is the better thing to focus on than just purely the avoiding or abstaining from the pornography thing. similar to what I would focus on with a client who I'm trying to get to eat whole foods is that, man, you know how cool it is that when you abstain from all these processed foods and avoid eating that way and you eat all whole foods, you know how enjoyable a bowl of grapes or a peach becomes? Right. The same thing is when you abstain from things like pornography and doing stuff like that, you do that. And then, oh, my God, sex with your partner becomes incredible. And so there's a reward at the end of that, too. So it's not just purely, you know, sacrificing, watching that addictive stuff. It's also you're rewarded for that by, you know, do that. I think that's something more to focus on the positive of that than making people feel like,

oh, you just shouldn't do this because it's bad. Here's where it's like the destructive forces of this are above and beyond what we're talking about. So, you know, we're talking about, and it kind of sounds like we're talking about men in relationships, right? So you're kind of a grown man, relationship. It damages a relationship with your spouse, whatever. But when you look at young users, like teenage boys, it zaps a young man's drive to go out and try to put his crap together, to try to clean himself up a little bit.

So when you're a young man, your drive to pursue and speak to the opposite sex. Or just attract another mate is to you clean yourself up, you get stronger, you get successful. These are the things that you want to do to attract a partner. You're a 15-year-old boy. And you've got this drive built into our DNA. You've got to go outside and you got to go talk to a girl. And talking to a girl is not nothing. Like in order to talk to a girl, she's not going to pay attention to you. Lots of barriers there. Yeah, you got to get over your fear. You're going to get rejected. So you got to deal with that. You got to present yourself as confident, but not a jerk. You got to clean yourself up a little bit. Like, you know,

women's, like, bar is higher. And so a young man has to go out and learn how to clean himself up a little bit and build confidence in order to do this, young men, and the data shows us quite clearly, do not approach girls anymore and they don't go out anymore. In fact, at most, they'll approach a girl online. So what it's done is it's neutered men. It's neutered teenage men. And then they become and then they go into their 20s and they're like, ah, I don't know what to do. In fact, I'd rather be at home on this comfortable thing that's not scary. So it's actually a dry, that teaches men how to kind of now it's not the only thing there's lots of things that

teach a man to grow up but i mean i know this right growing up in the 90s pornography was not very accessible you had to like get out of your room you had to like dress a particular way you couldn't look like an idiot you had to present yourself learn how to tell a joke be charismatic you know approach you know get the fear okay i got to get a you know get some you know build up a little confidence let's go up there make this happen no you're going to get rejected a few times and it's like this is a part of what takes a boy from part of it's not all of it but part of what makes a boy a man like you take a 15 year old boy with a smartphone access to more novelty of pornography or imaging that no king had a thousand

years ago no nobody who ruled a kingdom had that kind of novelty now a 15 year old boy has that on his phone he's he's not going anywhere i'm staying home you've zapped that energy and so and that has long lasting effects and we're seeing this now with these generations as they're growing up with pornography, they don't go out, they don't pursue, they don't talk, because that's been taken from them. Well, especially leading into the next one you're going to point out because that's the other place that men get the challenge that is built into us. Again, this thing that's built in us to want to level up, to conquer, to get better, to win, to do this that we have built in us is now getting satisfied by video games. That's right. So I'm getting

neutered by the you know constant dopamine hits of pornography that sedates me sexually and eliminates the drive to go out and try and find a real mate and then that's still that inner drive that makes me want to compete and build and conquer and win is getting fulfilled in call of duty where I'm doing that in a video game that's right it's the other thing that's paired with this and the lie there challenges yeah and the lie there is it's just fun like what's a big deal you're just having fun again nobody's getting hurt type of deal but you're absolutely right, Adam, in a young man, the desire to, and when you say conquer, we're not talking about, like, you're going to go out and, like, start a war. It's like, you go out and you find

challenges and adventures. Like, there's a drive that you have as a young man to go, find adventures, to find challenges. To explore, take risk, take chances. And you're going to fail sometimes, get myself back up, try again. Like, these are very important lessons. And this is an important driver that turns a young man into a man who can lead a family. What it looked like in the 80s was you go with your buddies, you get your BMX bike, you build the dirt ramp, you put one of your friends underneath it, you see if you can

clear him, you know what I'm saying? Sometimes you make it, sometimes you don't, like, you just if you can simulate something on a video game now that's far more engaging than that is, and so it's saps us of that because now, instead of going out and pursuing real world challenges. There's no real risk to it. No, you're

just beating level 35. Yeah, and you're just a simulation. But it still gives you that artificial hit that makes you think that you are because, and anybody who's played in those games, conquering or leveling up or winning does give you a rush and a drive and it has its own addictive properties to it. Who wants to play a video game that you never lose? You win no matter what. Right. Nobody. It's the challenge and you ask yourself, why do we have that? Why do we enjoy that? It's meant for going out and growing and pursuing and trying. And so what's happened is we've neutered. We become neutered because in

Instead, we're expressing that energy on complicated, challenging video games. Well, and not to mention the, they've evolved so much, like processed foods, these video games, the science that has gone into them. When we were kids, because we played video games too, and I feel so blessed when we grew up in the 80s when the video game market was, I mean, they were just figuring the science on how can they put it on the screen when we were kids. And that was such a huge accomplishment. nobody was talking about then how do we make these kids addicted to it to where they don't want to put it down where that's the conversation the engineering that goes into gaming now the amount of science and money and research is how do we get these kids to not want to put it down and want to keep going and want to play for hours that wasn't even part of the thought process in the 80s when Nintendo was hitting the market it was like can we make this thing happen you fail you got to start all the way over and that would really piss you off and they eliminated that because they understood that

this would keep them playing much longer if they could just respond. Yes. That's right. 100%. It's replaced physical games, which physical games have far more value, not just the physicality, but the organization required, the social aspect of it. And when you're playing physical games outside, it tends to turn into lots of different games and lots of different adventures.

It's literally zapped us of this. And you know this because if you know a guy, uh that uh plays a lot of video games he doesn't do much else he's at home playing video games all the time by the way you know it's funny as you go as we go through these we're listing characteristics that are turnoffs to women yeah in fact when women do because they have this innate like okay like a guy that plays a lot of video games in his mid 20s not attractive in fact they've listed that as one of the least attractive qualities or hobbies so yeah you know and this this is the one by the way that got us all the heat last time is you got a lot of guys get really

mad talking about this, but it is literally zapping this drive that you have to go challenge yourself because you're just trying to beat different levels. Yeah, and I'm usually, again, this is a bit controversial, but I'm advocating for more risky type sports to be involved in. And again, there's so much science out there now. We're overscienced and we're definitely padded in our approach, which has, like, safety is definitely an element that we kind of have to reconcile with. You know, what is, what is our limitation?

What are we comfortable with, you know, with our kids especially? But this is something that parents really need to consider. Like, what kind of experience are you going to present with your child? Because if you're going to now remove like all, like a risky sport like football, for instance, because of some, you know, studies about CTE or things that are scary about it, you know, you're robbing them of so much of an experience that is lifelong. And it lasts in every element of life. when it comes to teamwork,

when it comes to working with difficult people, when it comes to overcoming immediate difficult challenges. So just to put that out there as like, you know, a challenge. Really consider what it is that you're removing and you're replacing it. Yeah, what are you trading it with? What are you training it? And I 100% think that I would rather my kid play a dangerous sport like football or boxing than be playing video games for four hours a night.

for sure all day, every day. Because of what the long-term effects of that does on that, the motivation of that kid and his brain and what we're talking about right now, I'd rather roll the dice with those two sports, which I know I've got a lot of publicity around how dangerous they can be related to CTE, that I think is a much better risk

than thinking that, oh, I'll just let him play video games because that's safe he can't get hurt that way, way worse. Right, right. Next up is the lie. that he who dies with more toys wins or that buying things will make you happy. The data on this is really interesting.

They've done lots of studies on this. In fact, I pulled up some data on just this right here and how happy does buying things actually make you? Well, first off, it's called... So short. It's called hedonistic adaptation or the hedonistic treadmill.

This is where you get this initial joy from buying something, but it quickly fades as you adapt to that thing that you bought. And then if you buy that same thing again, there's zero. In other words, you got to level up. You buy, like, you know, brand new shoes or a cool watch and you get that spike in happiness and then it fades very quickly.

If you bought that exact same watch or shoes, there's nothing anymore. It's now adapted. Studies on extreme situations, lottery winners, for example, show that they're no happier 18 months later than before. Lottery is a lot. Like, you're winning millions of dollars. Yeah. A year and a half later, you're right back to where you were before.

So buying things is a terrible use of money when it comes to happiness. You know what the data shows? Experience. Experiences are far more valuable. So instead of buying something, buying an experience, what's better than buying an experience is buying something that makes you grow as a person. Or education or somebody else. That's the number one.

Yeah. Number one ROI for using your money to make yourself. happier is to use your money to help someone else. What they find in the data with that is when you take money and let's say you donate it to a charity or to a family or someone to really help them, you get

happy. The happiness actually doesn't really fade and then every time you think about it for the rest of your life you get the same happiness. So every time you think about that oh 10 years ago man I gave money to my cousin who was really having a tough time or to that charity or I supported that single mom

you get that same spike of happiness. So when people say, like, why do you buy things and ultimately it boils down to while it's going to make me happier, the best ROI is actually in helping other people. The worst ROI is in buying things. Yeah, I don't think this one is singled out to men. I think this has plagued our entire society. Totally. I think our entire society has been built on this.

This is what makes the economy go around and for it to grow. They're marketed to that this is happy. Yeah. And we're also taught that it's good. It's good. we want to keep growing GDP. The only way we keep growing GDP is keep buying the new shirts, the new shoes, the new watches, the new clothes, the new cars, and that's how it grows.

That's how the economy goes better. That's how we all win. And so we've been sold that that's the way to live. And so I don't think this is just isolated to men at all. I think this is just our entire society. And I think at one point, you come to this realization. And hopefully you're lucky enough to come to that realization younger or sooner in your life because you quickly find how unfulfilling or how short-lived those things are.

And it's like, man, if you're constantly just chasing or moving the goalpost, you'll spend most of your time unhappy and it will never be fulfilled from that. Yeah, and that's connected to the next one, which is your value as a man is really just how much you can earn. And it's very connected to the first one, which is consuming. And now I understand why this lie exists. And it's because men are often perceived as the breadwinners. Part of what a woman will find attractive in a man is your ability to provide. So I get that.

But when you get caught up in this lie, you end up sacrificing more important things for how much you can earn. And so you see a lot of men sacrificing their families, sacrificing their relationships in pursuit of a bigger paycheck. And so they're trying to get this bigger paycheck. not spending time with their children or destroying their relationship with their wife because they constantly sacrifice their relationship. It becomes a selfish pursuit. A completely selfish pursuit. And I bought this one, hook, line, and sinker for years as a young man and paid dearly for this one.

And now I realize just how much of a lie it is. I mean, how much you earn is important. It's not the most important thing. It's more about that you can provide for your family and not so much the dollar amount. I did this study in. 90% of women said they prefer a man that has created his own wealth over one that has inherited. And so if it's, if it was just about a dollar amount, then they wouldn't care. It would be like, oh, well, you know, my husband inherited 10 million and your husband maybe

only made one million. So he's, no, they would prefer the man that created his wealth. And I think that because that's more closely related to how we evolved. And I think it's closely related to being able to hunt for the family. And so your ability to hunt, provide enough, to feed our kids, to feed me, to feed you, and we have enough that we don't have to worry about it come wintertime. That's what I'm looking for, more so than, you know,

can you kill enough deer to feed an entire army that doesn't serve us anymore? And I think that's where this gets inflated. Some of the best, some of the most interesting interviews on stuff like this are like deathbed interviews. Well, they'll interview, you know, men and women when they're, you know, getting ready to pass away, essentially. And when they ask them, like, do you have any regret?

or do you wish you didn't? Nobody says. Nobody says, yeah, I wish I would have worked more. I made more. I made more money. Everybody's like, oh, I wish I spent more time with my kids. I wish I devoted more time to this relationship. I wish I treated this person a little bit differently. So this is not your value. This is part of something that you can bring value to your family, but this is not your value. And if you worship this, it's going to destroy you. You know, I'm glad you said that part, though, because I was just talking to Katrina about this and we talk a lot about when the time comes to, you know, talking to Max about money and finances and, you know, kind of like my philosophy around it. I also don't want to demonize

him, his idea of wanting to be successful because I do like the idea of him reaching a level to being able to make enough money to create freedom for himself to spend the time that he wants to more with his family. And I think that'll be one of the most important things and lessons that I want to be able to teach him and it'll be me teaching him with him like us doing something say in the middle of the week on a day when most men would probably be at work from nine to five and him and I fishing or sitting on a boat or playing at a beach or doing something and him asking me about money and being like this is what it's about right here is the fact that your dad is sitting with you right now at two o'clock on a Thursday and most dads are having to work a nine to five

job just to provide for the family that's where this is the part of making more money what really matters. This is the value of success. If you can, exactly, to me, that is, it's not the dollar amount in the bank account or the how many of the cars or how big the house is. It's that you've worked hard enough. You've made enough money to where you've created enough leverage that allows you to spend more time with your family, the loved ones, and the ones that you really care about. Next up, there's a lie. And I think this is just the result that has come from, you know, kind of like this toxic masculinity or where men believe that leading is being too aggressive. And so what's happened is a lot of young men have

become passive. They've become passive. Like, I don't know, you go ahead and decide, you do this and you do that. And you know what's funny when you look at polls, even today, even today in a modern world, when you look at polls, 80 plus percent of women prefer when the man leads. They prefer when the man helps or does pick the restaurant or pays or opens the door, you know, all these like little gestures of kind of leading. And you look at the data on how a family turns out when the man does something versus when the wife or mom does something, and it's pretty remarkable. One of my favorite studies is on faith.

You know, faith is a, that's like a life-changing thing. And when you look at if a mother becomes, and this is on the Christian faith, if a mother is the first person to become a Christian, the odds or the chances that the whole family follows a 17%. If the father becomes a Christian, the odds or the chances are over 90%. Just showing just how important leading is for the man. And it's also just accepting responsibility. So as a father, looking at your home, because a lot of guys are passive at home. They're like leaders at work. Then they come home and it's like, I don't know, honey, you decide. You didn't see that. So this is, of all the things you had on the list, this is the hardest one for me to talk about,

I don't think there's, I don't resonate with it at all. I was like, is this happening? Well, you know, no, I'm serious. Well, you know men like this. Yeah, I do. I've seen it. Yeah, but that's my point. It's like, it's so far from, like, I can't even wrap my brain around.

What is causing it that makes, makes a man or a boy so passive like that? Is that society putting that pressure? Is that what they're being taught in school? Well, I think they're doing like, like what is it that? makes these young men or young boys turn into men that are so passive like that of all the ones I had nothing to contribute to this one because I don't know where to point I don't know if I'm talking to my son or a teenage boy what to tell him to watch out for these pitfalls so you don't end up being a wuss you know you've been in it being so passive by the way this doesn't

mean leading isn't like a tyrannical like like a good leader we've all worked for a good leader and we've all worked for a bad leader. What's a bad leader? You don't want to follow. Terranical. You don't want to want that boss that you hate. Like, that's a terrible leader. Who's a good leader?

It's that boss or that manager you had, man. You're like, I will, like, I love them. I love working for them. They encourage me. You take the bullet. If you're a true, rule number one of leadership is everything is your fault. That's right. So you fall on the sword.

You take the first bullet. That's what, like, what leading is. And it was chivalry in that. Like, I don't know where, where that died or what. What happened? Well, what's funny is that one of the first, you know, everybody knows a story of Adam and Eve, and when I was learning about this, it's funny because what was pointed out to me was Adam in that story.

We all know that Eve takes the apple, right? She's convinced to eat the apple. She bites it. She gives it to Adam. And the question is, well, when she took the apple, where was Adam? He was right there. He was right there. And then what happens after they both eat the apple, first off, they're trying to hide from God,

which is hilarious. But then God shows up, and who does he go to? He goes to Adam. and he says, hey, he didn't go to her. By the way, he knows what happened. He's God. He goes to Adam, hey, Adam, what happened? And what does Adam say?

Blames it on her. He goes, oh, his responses. Passive. Oh, that weak move. That woman you gave me. She made me eat it. Like, it's an example of that passivity and not taking responsibility. By the way, leading often means you lead by example, right?

So if you want your family to exercise, you be the one to start it. You want your family to eat healthy. Show it. be the one. You want your family to be on their phones less. You be the one. You want them to be on less TV. You be the one. And that requires responsibility. I think a lot of guys are happy coming home from work sitting on the couch and, you know, armchair fathers. Yeah. It's like, yeah, you know, you handle things or whatever. And that's a big mistake. Big mistake. Next up is the alpha male false masculinity that we see on social media. I think this is a, this is a crazy knee-jerk reaction

to... Totally what that is. The passivity. It's the birth of the opposite side of the overcorrection. Yeah, and it's the false masculinity.

It's the like bravado. They're like, all right, look at me. You know, this kind of cocky machismo. Look what I can buy. Look what I can do. I have a chick for every car I drive. Yeah.

And sometimes you get young men who are thirsting for... Usually they're compensating. Super. And a lot of young men are like thirsting for some kind of like, like, you know, maybe they didn't have a father or whatever. They're thirsting for this. And so what they do is they look to this. They become these hyperagent.

aggressive, dysfunctional young men because they get this idea of masculinity that's just totally false. It's not real. Yeah, I think, I think, I think, I think social media has exacerbated this right here, right? Because to your point, it's, it's more viral. It feeds the algorithm that I even think these alpha bro guys that you're referring to, I even believe that maybe when they first started making content, maybe they were in a good place or came from the right place or was speaking truth or a good message. But I think the more aggressive, the crazier, the more extreme, the more eyes, the more attention.

And then we saw that kind of drift, right? So you end up becoming that character because that's what feeds the algorithm. And then now this person represents this, you know, ugly side of the alpha side. It's like not the healthy masculinity, but the, and then it looks more like the toxic masculinity, which the other side is screaming on the other side. That's right. And then this ties into the next one, which is the lie that it's, way better to chase a lot of women.

It's way better to have a bunch of women and have access to a bunch of women than it is to dedicate and devote yourself to just one. By the way, the data on this is so clear. It's crazy because a lot of us believe these lies as young men, and we don't even look at the actual data. When men are married and devoted to one woman, they're healthier, they live longer, they're less depressed, and they're happier. They're happier.

Men that have access to all these women and chase them all, all the time or whatever. They fail to grow up and they actually have not great outcomes. My favorite example is Dan Belzerian. Dan Bilzerian had all this access. Well, look at him come full circle. And he has come back and said, oh, this is about it. I mean, talk about a, his palate has changed so much. Dude. That, you know, even if he's, he's in a bad situation. Very tough. Very, very tough after that. I mean, he's been conditioned the other way for so long that even if his heart's pulling in another direction or even if his mind logically is telling him, like, this is actually the better way, actually doing that becomes very difficult.

You know, it's interesting. How can he trust, too? Right. That's right. You know, how can he put his faith in, you know, that one person? And you know, what's interesting about this, too, is I think men have this innate quality where we want to follow and respect a particular man. And if I were to paint the picture of a guy who just chased lots of women or a man,

both of them equally successful, and a man who is very devout. and respectful and dedicated to his wife. Naturally, men would respect the man that was devoted to his wife. Of course. How interesting is that? Well, it's actually not. It's actually pretty obvious to me because that's harder. Yeah.

That takes discipline. That takes work. It takes you growing up. The other one is that if you, if they're both equally successful. Everything's the same. Yeah. If they're both exactly the same, they both, okay, let's say they're both incredibly fit, good looking, and Uber wealthy.

The option list for both of them with women. are huge. Right. It's huge. The pool of women they can pull from and the guy who chooses to be dedicated

to his family and his wife, the discipline that it takes to do. Your respect. Right. That is way more respect than the guy who has got a different girl

at his disposal all the time. That's not all. He swipes right. He's on to the next one. That's not a big deal. That's less impressive to me than the man who could have all that and then it doesn't.

It's like when you meet, just like when you meet a guy who is like a badass fighter and you watch him back down in a fight versus whooping someone's ass the fact that that you goes and buys him a drink exactly when you meet somebody and we've been around men like this that are black belts and they just or UFC fighters and you know it would just destroy a dude and the dude's mouth it off and there's a party there's a party that wants to see that guy get his ass kicked but you end up having so much more respect for the for that watching that guy carry himself and go buy him a drink or apologize and you're like oh my god the the fact that he could just whoop this dude and he doesn't is what makes it cooler than it is if he were to actually just more admirable very very very it is and again on the data on this is interesting i said this earlier the most satisfying sex lives are reported by couples who've been married for decades who are out of

their what we consider prime who also haven't had a lot of partners the best ones are reported by people who've only been with each other now you mentioned how your palate has changed i'll use an analogy. If you grew up eating all kinds of processed food and garbage all the time and then you decide to eat healthy, it's much more difficult because you've developed this relationship with food where what you valued is the pleasure of eating this food. You've only valued food up until a certain point for its hedonistic value. That's the value. You don't have a complete understanding of the value of food. Food provides so many other values, not just the pleasure. Pleasure is a good thing, but it's not the only thing. Same thing with having intimate intimacy with a woman.

The pleasure is good, but it's not the only thing that you get. But if that's all you value, you miss out on all the other stuff. That's why I think for Dan is, it's such a challenge. Exactly. Is that it's great that that's where his mind is and he's thinking, but boy, it's a lot of work. And to use your food analogy, I mean, I'm a healthy, fit nerd, but I still have that pool because for years and years and years as a kid, eight, candy, ate processed food, had all that stuff like that. So it still is in the back of your mind. Even though you know that this is the path, you still get pulled that way.

It's hard to break old, old behaviors like that. And then there's this lie around it, which is, well, you're, you know, it's like eating healthy. Like, well, I'm free. I get to eat whatever I want. You're all restricted. You have to eat healthy. You're actually in bondage.

You're in bondage to obesity, chronic disease and illness. So you're actually, it's a false freedom. So it's like, I'm free to hook up with whatever woman I want. want, you're actually not. You're missing out on things that you have no idea about. Look, if you like the show, come find us on Instagram. We'll see you at Mind Pump Media. Thank you for listening to Mind Pump. If your goal is to build and shape your body, dramatically improve your health and energy, and maximize your overall performance, check out our discounted RGB Superbundle at Mind Pumpmedia.com. The RGB Superbundle includes Maps Anabolic, Maps Performance, and Maps

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