Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 2723: What Would Happen to Your Body if You Only Did 1 Lift a Day?

Episode Date: November 7, 2025

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Starting point is 00:02:26 I'm talking right now. head on over to mindpumpstore.com. That's it. Enjoy the rest of the show. By now, you already know the benefits of exercise. You know the benefits of strength training, especially if you listen to this podcast. But what would happen to your body
Starting point is 00:02:42 if you only did one lift a day? One exercise a day, what kind of results would you expect? Well, today I'm here with my co-host. We've been training people for decades. We're going to speculate on exactly what you could expect from one exercise a day. This would be a really...
Starting point is 00:02:57 Just one? I would... This would be a real... really fun experiment to actually do this. You know, especially when I see a lot of these, like, fitness challenges that are out there and they're always like these. Just ridiculous. Yeah, they're ridiculous extreme things that get you to do a lot of stuff and a short
Starting point is 00:03:12 period of time and that nobody ever sticks to. But a one lift a day is like a very committable thing. Totally. Right? Super reasonable. And even though I've never done this, I would speculate that you would see, especially choosing good lifts, I'm assuming. Yeah, that's part of them.
Starting point is 00:03:30 I'm assuming this isn't, you know, preacher girls on Monday and tries to pushdowns on Tuesday. Good lifts, good compound lifts. Yeah, one a day, three to four sets. I think people would be surprised at how good of results you'd see. I agree. I think number one, what would probably happen if someone did this is they would be way more consistent than they've ever been in their entire life.
Starting point is 00:03:56 Yeah. I think the average person who followed a routine of one lift a day would be far more consistent than they've experienced following other types of workout programs for obvious reasons. It's a far less of a commitment. It's not something that you dread because what am I going to do? 15 minutes maybe. It's easy. I could fit it into my schedule. It's also so frequent, it turns into a habit much easier.
Starting point is 00:04:24 if I miss one, not a big deal. I did six days this week. So I missed one, no problem. Yeah. And if we look at, if we were to look at the total volume and put that against our experience and against data. Now, again, we're talking about the average person, right? Someone wants, we're not talking about the, you're not going to be a body building. Yeah, we're not talking about the freaks.
Starting point is 00:04:45 No. If you want to be, if your goal is to be fit and healthy and what you want out of strength training is to build some mother. is to build some muscle, build some strength, improve mobility, feel better, reduce pain, right? And you pick compound lifts. I would venture to say that somebody who did this and allowed themselves to progressively overload as they got stronger.
Starting point is 00:05:10 That's another one right, too. Adam, like, you're doing one lift a day. As you get stronger, lift more weight. So allow yourself to progress. I bet if someone did this, they would probably reap close to 70% of all the benefits they would ever get from strength training. And that's, by the way, the data shows us that the majority of the benefits come from very little. And then as you add more, there's diminishing returns.
Starting point is 00:05:34 Now, some people might say, oh, well, I want 100%. Actually, most people would be very happy with 70% of what they would get from strength training with consistency. Because what it usually looks like is 0% because of no consistency. I guarantee they'd have better sleep. leap and their energy would spike. I think that's the biggest thing that I've noticed with just, I've had people kind of run an experiment like that
Starting point is 00:05:58 just with our Maps 15 type of a protocol, even just two a day. And then they were like just amazed at this instant energy spike throughout the rest of the day and the rest of the week. Yes. Well, this isn't that far off of Maps 15. That's right. As Matt's 15 is two a day for six days
Starting point is 00:06:13 a week, so you're basically hitting 12 lifts in a week. So it's obviously a little bit more. Yes. But not that dramatic. less. Man, I didn't know you're going to go this story. This would be a really cool YouTube series. This would be a really cool experiment. Well, I'll tell you what.
Starting point is 00:06:31 When I, towards the end of my career, I got, you know, well, majority of my clients were always gen pop, right? So the average person. And then towards the back half of my career, I'd say most of my clients were in their 40s, 50s. And if I'm looking at the total volume here, volume here of, let's say, seven exercises, four sets each at them. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:52 Most of my clients did this much volume per week with me because they'd come to see me twice a week. Yeah. And if in that two days a week with the, I mean, it's right around the same amount of sets we would do and what kind of results do my clients get training with me two days a week? By the way, this doesn't mean you're not active.
Starting point is 00:07:08 I want to be clear. This doesn't mean you're not walking. Yeah. And you have a bad diet. So you should still be active. This is not enough activity. Yeah, but I'm going to make the case that if all you did was that and hit your protein intake every single day, I think you'd see profound benefits.
Starting point is 00:07:23 I think with no other parameters, okay? Yeah. Just hit. And by the way, the way I would say that to a client and upset them on a path like this is that, what do you mean? I can have ice cream still. I can have alcohol. So long as you hit your protein first.
Starting point is 00:07:37 Which is harder than it sounds. Yes. So long as you hit that first, then sure, go ahead. Have the little bit of dessert. Have that every once in a while. I would even say that. But hit that first. That's my one ask is that.
Starting point is 00:07:48 Like go do that first. And then if you still feel like you want this thing, this indulge, then by all means. And I think if you just gave yourself that rule plus the lift every single day, I think you'd see profound. So here's why. You don't need a lot of strength training to elicit some pretty significant changes in the body. And the data on this is silly. I mean, the amount of strength training required just to prevent muscle loss. So for every decade after 30, I don't remember what the percentage of.
Starting point is 00:08:18 muscle loss, but we tend to see like a percentage of muscle loss for every decade after the age of 30. And when you look at the data on how much strength training is needed to just stop that, it's one workout every two weeks. Okay? It's very little. There's studies on one 30 second isometric contraction a week and, you know, following that for a couple months and you see these significant gains in strength. You just don't need a lot. And now what's baked into this is progressive overload. So here's a deal. As you get stronger, volume goes up. Yep. So when you're doing this one lift a day, and you're picking the right exercises, your squats, your deadlifts, your bench presses, your rows, you're going to get stronger. Overhead presses. You're doing some rotation,
Starting point is 00:09:04 something laterally. And you're just sticking to those lifts. You're not focusing on the isolation stuff. You're going to see strength gains pretty consistently. And as you get stronger, your volume's going up because there's more weight on the bar or on the dumbbells. And if you you're doing this right, the intensity would also start to naturally go up. So this is what happens. You become more fit. Your tolerance for intensity goes up and you're able to train harder as you go through this. I'll tell you this right now, if the average person did this consistently, they would see pretty good consistent progress for probably a couple years. I think it's just good for even like experienced lifters to just, you know, go through an experiment like this. It's always mind-blowing.
Starting point is 00:09:47 I think that we're just so conditioned to think that exercise and the workouts what's producing the muscle as opposed to the recovery. If you put more emphasis on how can I squeeze more recover, how can I squeeze more of the building process and can I maximize that to its full potential versus like looking at the exercises, the stimulus is always like, you know, produce and the outcome. Yeah, I think there's two ways you can look at exercise. There's value. Two kind of areas of value. One is the signal it sends for adaptation. The other one is just activity is good for you. So just moving is good for you.
Starting point is 00:10:23 That's true. But then there's also the adaptations that the activity induces, which can also be very beneficial. With strength training, I think it's smart to focus on the stimulus. Now, everything else, like this is why I said, like, if you walked regularly with this routine, if you hit 10,000, 12,000 steps a day, now you've got the activity covered. you're doing one lift a day, that's enough to send the muscle building signal. And I'll say this right now.
Starting point is 00:10:52 If I followed a routine like this, if I were to do this one lift a day, I would probably see strength gains and some key lifts because I go into it, okay, I'm doing only three sets of this. I'm going to warm up and then I'm going to get after it. I would probably myself see some strength gains with this. And I've been doing this for a long time.
Starting point is 00:11:07 Oh, I think that's a fact. That's why I think this would be so interesting even for one of us to do something like this because I'm willing to bat. You get much better at that lift. Yeah, I'm willing to bet, to that a lot of, not a lot, a percentage of all of our workouts have junk volume involved in stuff that we just do because we like to do it and it's in there and it's just like,
Starting point is 00:11:27 and if I had to choose one lift today, I'm not messing around. Like I'm not going to, I'm not going to like choose any junk volume. I'm going to pick things that are going to move the needle because I only got one today. So it needs to be a good lift. And therefore, just focusing on that. And to your point, putting more of the energy and focus on the outside. part of recovery and everything else because I'm not training for an hour. Yeah, I really want to do this. I think this would be a fun series. Like I said, this is right. This is why I wrote this or I put this
Starting point is 00:11:57 to open because I was thinking about my average consistent client would work out with me two days a week, some once a week, but then they do stuff on their own. So on average, they would do strength training twice a week. And then I would coach them on being active throughout the week. So again, I want to be clear. It's not like, you know, you want to still be active. So I'd make. sure that they walked or did other activities. We would also look at diet. But I only did strength training twice a week. And it was right around this total volume right here, everybody. Like, you know, like I said, if I add this up and divide it by two days, this is generally kind of what it would look like in the two workouts. And the clients I trained, many of them,
Starting point is 00:12:34 I would train for years, you know, nine years, 10 years, eight years. And they saw nice, consistent progress year over year, significant changes in their body, leaner, stronger, fitter, on a regular basis. Nobody overtrained. Injury rates was almost zero. And this was what I, and this was me figuring out how to train people properly. You know, I don't, I don't mean to ruin the direction you're going as I'm not sure where you're going with this, but the way I would do this, and it's perfect as we just did this not that long ago, is I would follow in, everybody thinks that we have to fit everything into this perfect seven-day week, this arbitrary number. Like, I would run the grade eight.
Starting point is 00:13:15 And I would just repeat, I would use those eight exercises because we built those like in with that intent of like if you, these are the eight like. Just do one a day. Just one a day. And then when you're done with them, start over. Didn't start over. So you would, you'd be running, you know, everything you'd be obviously, it would take you eight days to get all the way through. But that's okay. You just repeat that again.
Starting point is 00:13:33 Yeah, sure. Perfect. And in a month's time, you're basically going to repeat all those almost. four times. Yeah. That format would be perfect. Yes. And I like every day
Starting point is 00:13:45 versus two days a week for a lot of people because of the habit. The habit forming, it's easy to stay consistent. And when you miss one, you only miss one exercise. If you miss a workout,
Starting point is 00:13:57 that's like four or five hours. You also could do this, which is probably, again, if I was documenting and trying to do this where the inevitable happen were just a day I couldn't, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:06 it wouldn't hurt to pair two days in one day, right? So it's like, oh, I missed yesterday. So I'm going to do that exercise and then today's exercise. And that's all I'm doing. Because now my workout's still only 20 minutes long. Well, what this really highlights is really a mentality around exercise generally, but strength training in particular, where what if you approached it with the mentality of I'm going to do a little bit every day?
Starting point is 00:14:31 Instead of these days, I go to the gym for an hour, an hour and a half. I would venture to say for most people, that would work better. You know, especially if they had a... We're less barriers, yeah. Especially if they had some basic equipment at home, especially if they have a cage and a barbell, but even with just basic equipment, if they just said, hey, every day, when I find, you know, 15 minutes, I'm going to go out and I'm going to do one exercise. I'm just going to make sure I do that every single day.
Starting point is 00:14:57 I bet that would lead, I would bet a lot of money. I bet it would lead to far better outcomes primarily because of the consistency that it would really produce. It just doesn't take a large commitment when you're doing something like this. And yeah, I know. It makes me want to put together a program. I mean, it does. Well, I mean, I think the great eight's perfect for it. I really do. I think, I think get out of this, we're always in this mindset of this. It's got to fit in a seven day. It's got to be three days or two days. It's got to be this like weird. And it's just like an arbitrary number. Like your life doesn't work on this perfect seven day calendar. Who cares? Run the eight exercises,
Starting point is 00:15:31 then start them over again. Run the eight exercises, start them over again. And then, and if you acts like you said, if you miss one day, so what? One day is not a big deal. You know what's funny about this? I could make an advanced version of this. I could make a real advanced version of this. I could up the intensity and do five or six sets of one exercise each day.
Starting point is 00:15:47 And then you have your... No, no. Forget that. Like, again, start it like you said. I'm only doing three or four sets. After month, when I get into month two, I add a set to all those things. When I get to month three, I add another set to that. And then, yeah, in say six months, I'm doing five, six sets of all those. still not a ridiculous amount of volume, you know, and you've slowly progressed to that.
Starting point is 00:16:09 Like, yeah, that would be a great way to do that. I love that. Yeah. And I just, again, I wish that people understood this kind of mentality when it came to fitness, whereas if you could do some every day, you're probably going to do better than if you try to do a lot sometimes. Way more sticky that way. It's way more sticky, easy consistency. The body seems to respond really well to stuff like this.
Starting point is 00:16:33 And again, when it comes to strength training, look at it as a stimulus more than just being active. And again, it's important to be active. So you want to move. You want to move throughout the day. Don't sit a lot. That's very clear. But when I'm like, hey, I'm picking this muscle building form of exercise.
Starting point is 00:16:51 What am I taking out of it? I don't really care about the activity I'm doing while I'm doing it. I just wanted to build some muscle and I want to get the, you know, what I'm looking for. It doesn't take much. It's almost like turning on a light switch and then you get out and allow the recovery an adaptation to take place. You know, so, yeah. That's just cool.
Starting point is 00:17:06 I know. I know how you really got my wheels spin. What I'm trying to decide right now is like, do I try and organize this to where I get a group, I take this through and actually have have people follow along with me? Do I just start it now? Or do I try to keep. This is a workout you what I do. I do.
Starting point is 00:17:22 It's perfect. It's right in my wheelhouse right now. I can commit to that. That was my inspiration. I don't get out of it. Yeah, yeah. For you, you're going like, I don't know. I can scale all the way down to that.
Starting point is 00:17:34 I don't know if I can scale all the way now. That's like reducing my whole way. I'm like, that's perfect. That's about what I'm doing right now. This spread out now for a second. I could do that. Yeah, no, I'm just, no, it's a really interesting thought. You know, something I would never, ever, ever.
Starting point is 00:17:50 It doesn't even, you know, here's the thing, too. It doesn't work for personal trainers because you don't, it doesn't work to see a client. No. For 15 minutes every day. Yeah. No. So even personal training organizes. itself to be more like a once or twice or three days a week you're going to see me.
Starting point is 00:18:06 But again, like, you know, if this were possible, this is how I would coach somebody. And I'd say, you know, instead of, you know, 45 minutes twice a week, just do, you know, 15 each day. Yeah, maybe if we get enough response to this episode, maybe I put together a group follow-along thing where I take everybody through this with me. And if enough people respond to this episode, I'd be rad. I think it would be, maybe I even put it like in the school group. Yeah. And we create like a school group around it.
Starting point is 00:18:34 And we do like a three, like a three month challenge type of deal. So I'm trying to decide maybe it would be a good thing to do that like a January when everybody's kind of getting remodivating it back in. We're kicking it off now through the holidays. I don't know. Maybe we'll see what happens from this episode. If I get enough people that would be interested in that, maybe that'll inspire me to do something like that. I got to tell you a funny story. So yesterday I was with my daughter, my 15 year old, and we stopped by my parents house.
Starting point is 00:18:59 So they were supposed to come over for dinner. My dad got a cold. So my wife, you know, very graciously just made dinner and said, hey, bring it over there. So we go over there. We walk in. You know, my parents are, you know, saying hi to them or whatever. And so you guys know that I'll use nicotine lozenges, right? So nicotine is a stimulant.
Starting point is 00:19:18 It's also got relaxing proper. I'm not going to, here I am trying to sell nicotine. The chemical of nicotine itself is not bad for you. May have some actual benefits. It's addictive. That's the bad thing. It's about addictive as addictive as caffeine. So anyway, my daughter's got this big problem with it.
Starting point is 00:19:34 She's like, you need to stop using that? Like, getting on my case. This is the first time I've experienced what a lot of parents will go through as their kids get older where they start trying to parent you. You know what to be? And it's actually kind of endearing to see that my daughter is like, like, that's not good for you. You need to stop doing it. So I'm, why don't you look it up to see if it's, you know, bad for my kids are doing that with the energy drinks with me. Really?
Starting point is 00:19:55 Oh, so it's so it's kind of cute, right? Yeah. So every time she sees me, you know, pull one out. she just she gets on me so we're at my parents house my daughter sneaky daughter and she just brings in my mom into the conversation oh my god oh yeah she just rolls you into the best of mom because i have an italian who could care less how old i am you know so we're in there and i you know i'm like my my mom goes into the room to get something because she always gives us food whenever we go there and she so she's getting a bag ready with fruit and stuff and i pull one out and my my daughter looks at me
Starting point is 00:20:25 she goes nana you just call my mom like are you going to tell me she's like yes No, no, come in here. Did you know, did you know, did you know, Papa is using nicotine? My mom's like, no, you're using, what? I'm like, it's a lozenge. Yeah, but that's addictive. And then my mom's like, oh, my case about it, dude. Just Jessica, no?
Starting point is 00:20:46 I'm like, yeah, Jessica knows. You know, tell your wife, too. Yeah, she knows. You're a bad example. You should have, like, give me this whole lecture. I'm looking at my daughter like, oh, you're going to get it, dude. She totally wrote my mom. I mean, it's great.
Starting point is 00:21:00 Yeah. I think it's endearing and you probably would prefer that than to not, right? I think that's cool. Yeah, I think that's really cool. She's now using the thing, too, where if I pop on my phone at a stoplight, my daughter, and I tell her, I say, hey, if you ever see me do that, I don't care if you call me out. Please call me out. That's wrong.
Starting point is 00:21:18 And, you know, it's addicting, right? You're at the stoplight. Oh, let me check see if someone text me or something. And I did that the other day, and she gets on me about it. And I'm like, oh, yeah, okay, you're totally right. I said, still talk to me respectfully, but you're totally right. and she's like, you know, I'm going to drive soon. Do you want me to do that?
Starting point is 00:21:33 I'm like, oh. Yeah. No, I don't. So it's really, it's a nice reflection. Yeah, your kids calling you out. That's funny. You remind me because I was hanging out with my mom and my parents and we got to see him a little bit when we were in Palm Desert.
Starting point is 00:21:48 But so Courtney's birthday was that same time. And my mom does certain things. I don't know if your mom does it, but she loves, like, making a big deal out of people's birthdays like my brother and I like she would literally put pictures and things like iron them on a flag and put it outside the house so people driving by
Starting point is 00:22:11 it's like my birthday flag it was so embarrassed you know and like it's like I love her and I love that she's like she's wacky and crazy and you know and I used to hate that but I love it now it's like I get where I get a lot of that from her you know but the same time It's like, oh, she sends these, they're called jib jabs.
Starting point is 00:22:33 Have you seen these before? Oh, yeah, yeah. So this was like, where they put your picture on it? Really old. Yeah, yeah, it's old. Like, I mean, this is like when the internet was like just coming out. And they put your face on these dancing things. So every year does this for everybody, right?
Starting point is 00:22:47 And it's the same picture from when, like, my wife and I first got married. And so Courtney's got her face. And it's changed just enough. So they try to make, like, different dances. where they're doing all the thing, like, kind of relevant. Hers, this year was, it was like a low rider, and it was like her and all these, like, lowrider, like, they made it into like a rap video, basically.
Starting point is 00:23:11 She's just like, oh, my God, I was dying. So, so embarrassing for her, but I was like, welcome to my life. Oh, because it was her birthday. It was her birthday. Oh, that's so great. That's Katrina's family is so, it's, it's, I don't want to say it's a fight, but it's like a weird, I just can't, I can't, I'm, we're, it's not a big deal to me. And I understand why it's for me, whatever, what I mean, this whole year, she's been like,
Starting point is 00:23:36 what are we going to do for my birthday this year? For my birthday? Yeah, yeah, your birthday or hers? And it's such a, it's a big one. And it's like, what do you mean? It's a big one. What is your turning? 45.
Starting point is 00:23:45 Oh. It's like, it's like, in their family, like, every five is like a big deal. Every five? Yes. We go every 10. Yeah, well, yeah, like, that's understandable. Yeah, you know, when you, when you turn 30, it's kind of a big deal. When you turn 40, it's kind of a big deal.
Starting point is 00:23:58 When you turn 50, but like, yeah, no, it's every five years. And, like, there's no way getting through and convincing her that it's not a big deal. And so it's been like this. We've been thinking about this since January, like, so worried. So much pressure on you. Yes, I know. That's my wife does that. She's doing that to me.
Starting point is 00:24:14 She's like years away from a big one for her. It's already. No, her exact. Just it better be a big one. Like, you better be special. I'm like, all this pressure. I'm like, oh, my God. I'm so terrible at planning, you know.
Starting point is 00:24:24 I just pay for things. Well, that's, okay. So that's the hard part for me too is that so my default love language is I'll buy her a cool gift, but that's not what she wants. She wants the planning, the celebration, the people, all the things. Maybe we should just have our assistants to it. Because I'm so bad at planning too. You know what I mean? It's just like organizing is terrible.
Starting point is 00:24:41 I would end up organizing something where the place I booked is on the wrong date and then the person showing up providing the food comes up. Because I just missed these details, you know? So frustrating. Yeah, it's tough for me because she represents that in our relationship, right? She's the one that plans are. Like that's something. You're going to have to plan this. You know,
Starting point is 00:24:57 saying you went out and told her to do. Corey does that too. She's like making her own, uh, like apple crumble pie thing and like, I, for her birthday. For her own birthday?
Starting point is 00:25:08 I was like scrambling just to find like candles. You know, like put it in their last minute and get the kids all over. Hey, let's sing real quick. I forgot about all that part of it. You know, like you got to like make a big deal about it.
Starting point is 00:25:22 Oh. Yeah. Some people, it's funny how you get like different. family traditions, like for birthdays and Christmas, Jessica has memories of having a lot of little presents. So rather than having one big gift, yeah, yeah. It was like small things like socks and shampoo and a book. So she liked having lots of little things to open. Now, when I was a kid, one big one. It was one big gift. Like you had your big Christmas gift. It wasn't a bunch of small gifts.
Starting point is 00:25:49 Yeah, so I came from like Jessica. It was like to just. You also. Yeah, yeah. It was like a poor family Is that why I do? Yes, totally. It's like they could wrap 10, $1 presents, you know? Volume feels like a lot. Yeah, yeah. Oh my,
Starting point is 00:26:03 it's like a poor. No wonder, because she grew up kind of like. Yeah, it's totally that. So you know what it's turned into in my house. Yeah. It's a lot of big presents. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:10 A lot. Yeah, dude. They're not a lot of small presents. A lot of expensive presents. Yeah, yeah. How many presents is my son getting to get for his birthday? We'll put at least seven days, dude. Yes, dude.
Starting point is 00:26:20 That is so crazy. I didn't even put that together. Yeah, Courtney never did stockings. Like, that was our whole. whole, Chris was like the stockings, you know. So, yeah, we went through that same thing because I was really big on, like, stuff and everybody's, you know, stockings with all these, like, little tiny things. Well, my family also was big on give me, tell me the things you want, and then I'll buy
Starting point is 00:26:38 you one of the things that you said. Yeah. Jessica hates that. I know. She hates getting people things that they ask for, because it removes the mystery. Yeah. Or whatever. So for her, she's got to get real.
Starting point is 00:26:49 And I'm more like, you know, tell me what's your one. What's up? I'll go get it for you, dude. Anyway. So I looked something up interesting. I used AI to look this up and then I found some studies to support it. And the question I asked was, what are things that the data shows that people who are diagnosed with ADHD are worse at and better at? Oh.
Starting point is 00:27:15 Because there are things that ADHD, you know, neurodivergence or whatever. We know there's a lot of things. Well, there's a for entrepreneurs, it's like a ridiculous. number, right? Like, there's a high percentage of us that you're about twice as likely to be an entrepreneur. Yeah. If you're, if you have ADHD. Yeah. Um, so worse at, what are the things that were worse at? Well, anything that, I mean, we could, we would not be good at sitting down. Yeah, like, monotonous like stuff, like things that are like repetitive over and over. Like, so you, you put someone like that. Details. Man, one of the, of all the jobs, I've always been the
Starting point is 00:27:49 kid who could do a job and reframe it as I love, I loved all the jobs I did. But there is, but there is one job that I think back of all the jobs I've done as a kid that was torturous for me. He said as the beekeeper? Yeah, well, that's a little different. I don't even know if I did that job. I did that job for a day. I love that you were a beekeeper for a day. No, one of my first jobs in high school in the summers, we used to do this, get up at like
Starting point is 00:28:17 four o'clock in the morning and we went and worked at my friends, parents own a couple of these mixing factories. I've told you guys this before we used to do designer way, creating so like that with these factories. And I worked assembly lines. Oh, God, I couldn't imagine. Oh, and you, and the... It's the same thing over and over there. Yes, the most excitement you got was that every, like, two-hour break, you could rotate what part of the assembly line.
Starting point is 00:28:41 So you were putting the caps on for two hours. Or you were sewing the bag closed. Or you were working the hopper. But you did that job for a minimum of two to four hours. That's torture. Every day. And again, the best thing would be to rotate. The best job for sure was the hopper because you were above everybody by yourself in this enclosed room.
Starting point is 00:29:05 And you had a two-ton bag of the powder that you would have to get set up, cut open. But once you got it going, you just, your job was to stay up there and keep the powder flowing. So you could take a nap. You can fall asleep until you hear the guys go, boom, boom, boom, boom. Hopper! And then you wake up. And then you shake the bag and get it going again. And they're taking down.
Starting point is 00:29:23 But the rest of the jobs were just terrible for that. Oh, that's, that's, yeah. I wouldn't be able to do that at all. I could only imagine you doing. Oh, bro. Yeah. Because of all of us, I think you have it to. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:35 We all have, I think we're all on a spectrum. There's a little bit of romanticism there for me of like, you know, doing something totally mindless and like not answering to anybody. Like that's, you know, and that's one reason why I did like manual labor, but then it got old insanely fast. I was like, I can't do this, dude. No. You need to interact. Well, people with ADHD also bad at inhibition.
Starting point is 00:29:56 So they have higher rates of behaviors that are considered risky. Worse with driving, worse with experimenting with drugs, with just anything that's risky. Inhibition is worse with people ADHD. Interesting. How so more likely to get addicted to things like that too? More likely to take risks. Just more likely to do things that are risky, which. Which is what makes you a good entrepreneur.
Starting point is 00:30:17 That's right. That's right. 100%. I was just going to say they're connected. time management, not good at time management. Which, here's what's funny about entrepreneurship. Again, I'm going to connect it back to that. Just make myself feel better.
Starting point is 00:30:30 I think entrepreneurs tend to do something they want to do. They enjoy it. And then they just, they don't care how long they do it. You know, what's the saying? An entrepreneur is somebody who's willing to work 80 hours a week to avoid working 40 hours a week. Yeah. Something like that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:45 It's irrelevant. Yeah. You just keep working. Yeah. They're better at idea generation. they're better at risk tolerance, which is the entrepreneurial thing. And deep engagement when interested, that's the caveat. So when they're interested in something, very deep engagement, very, like, obsessive about what they're...
Starting point is 00:31:03 Which, that could be a superpower. Of course. I mean, if you can channel that into something... And I mean, I find the people that I've met that are, that have ADHD that are really successful. That's all... That was the hack. That's right. I just had to figure out the thing that I was obsessed about, channel that.
Starting point is 00:31:21 a way to monetize that and then it became then it becomes a superpower for that. Now this brings another part to this, which is just, you know, I think, by the way, I do think that there are ADD or ADHD behaviors that are just a result of the fact that you're distracted all the time. You see this with kids when they're really distracted on devices and stuff like that. So I think there's like a neurodivergent brain, but that there's also, you know, environment that can contribute to some of these. Sal, do we have studies?
Starting point is 00:31:52 Not to cut you off, but you, I mean, this is close to home for me because I have somebody really close to me that has a kid that is, you know, or less, you know, younger than, you know, eight years old that, you know, they want to put on medication. And I know my friends, the parents don't want to do that. And they, the doctors are telling them that, you know, he's on the border right now of that. And I'm really, and now, granted, I know my friend, his son is like, I know he has a little bit of that, right? We grew up together.
Starting point is 00:32:22 And so I know that he has a little bit of that. So I'm sure some of it is genetic, right? That he's inherited some of that. But then I also think some of it is environment. Do we know what percentage or have we done anything to be able to say like, a, yes, there is a genetic component, you know, to this. But there's also a lot of, you know, nurture component to this. How much in comparison do you think?
Starting point is 00:32:44 I don't know about that. But I do know that the studies where they take kids and eliminate a smartphone and electronics, you see a dramatic increase in ability to concentrate and focus. And this is just across the board. This is for kids, adults. And entertainment has become more distracting. And I know this, by the way, if anybody's just questioning this, find entertainment for kids from 30 years ago and watch it and watch how slow it is in comparison to what you watch now. Even cartoons. I was watching old Transformers. and He-Man cartoons.
Starting point is 00:33:22 And it's like slow, dude. It's just the whole thing, the whole scene, the whole, they don't change. It's slow. Every five seconds. You know, that's one of my favorite things. It's so weird that I think my son
Starting point is 00:33:33 likes all that older stuff. But I love that. Yeah. I love that. Like, I totally encourage, if he wants to sit down and have cartoons and I'm with him, we are all, because I already know he likes it,
Starting point is 00:33:43 so it's an easy like, but because if you give him the option of anything and everything, of course, you'll pick whatever new commercial or new cartoon that's out but I can also convince him to do that and I'm always pushing to go that direction I should have to be careful I watch Tom and Jerry
Starting point is 00:33:57 my kids and every once in a while oh oh Tom got drunk why is Tom getting drunk you know what I mean? I blame J.I. Joe for my conspiracy brain Oh yeah. Have you ever gone back and watched like you know how Cobra took over the world and like controlled all
Starting point is 00:34:13 the TV and the media I do not know that that's where I give well could you have Max ask Katrina literally just like two days ago. Mommy is smoking bad because of the old, the old cartoons because there's, they're, yeah,
Starting point is 00:34:24 because the characters are smoking inside there like that. And the Katrina's like, yes, no, that's, yeah, that's the first time he's ever asked that or even, even thought of that as a question.
Starting point is 00:34:32 Cigars were like big growing up. Like, they're in all the cartoons. All the cartoons. Yeah. Yeah, but where I was going with this is I think that we, what happens sometimes, we try to shoehorn every kid into this, like,
Starting point is 00:34:45 this box. And if they're not acting this way, then we need to find a way to make them act this way and it's used pharmaceuticals or whatever because that means something is not right or whatever. But I think what we're missing is, because we all hear about like the kids that don't perform well or we need to bring the bottom up.
Starting point is 00:35:08 But what also is happening is we're taking a lot of kids that can potentially be talented and we're pushing them down. Yes. Because there's a lot of kids with what you would consider, not extreme, but maybe attention. issues, but they're just smart and bored. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:22 And, and, and they're unstimulated. And they're unstimulated. And they're just sitting there and daydreaming. Don't you feel like my kids went through that and then, you know, switch schools and it's like a rocket ship in difference. Oh, really? Oh, yeah. Like, they're, they're, yeah, because you kids are stellar now. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:38 And it's like, it's, you know, I don't know. I guess it was more frustration, uh, than anything for me. It's like, because I had good memories of the school I went to that started out there and it's got had a good reputation. kind of went downhill, but the difference was just insane. And a lot of it is the passion, you know, from the teaching. And it just wasn't there. And now they're getting it. And it's a massive difference.
Starting point is 00:36:02 I think it has a lot to do with that, Judge. Because I think it's really, I think there's also awesome teachers that work at some of these public schools. Totally. And I think that matters most. I mean, I see it like, Max is in his new grade now. And Katrina and I were just talking. And I was just, hey, what do you think of the new teacher? And so that because she had her at the teacher conference.
Starting point is 00:36:17 And she's like, she's different. She's like, she's different. She goes, it's so crazy to have our parent teacher conference. She gets on and she's like, oh, bubbly. And like, she's like, she is never like that. When she's at school, she's like all business teacher mode to the point where she like, she's like, every time I'm dropping Max off, I see her checking like a parent. And I'm, she's like, I've been checked a few times by her, which is so wild.
Starting point is 00:36:38 And she like, well, like if Katrina is like taking Max to school and Katrina goes to take his backpack and go hang it up, the teacher will check Katrina. Hey, he can do that. Wow. Yeah. And he can do that. And she'll say it like in this real stern way of like, you don't do that. Like, and they're really good about teaching them independence and show them also at that.
Starting point is 00:37:01 And if you as a parent overstep that or, you know, hey, it was nice to you to show up on time today I see. Oh, wow. Yeah. So I just, I mean, I love that because it just shows me that the teachers paying attention to all those. Those are little details. You know what I'm saying? We get emailed. It's crazy.
Starting point is 00:37:17 because discipline too is like, that's a huge difference with like schools and like how they handle things. And I've just been so impressed with this school. And, but to the degree where it's like one slip grade, like we're getting an email and like, you know,
Starting point is 00:37:34 if they don't make this up, then he's going to have to go to detention. And it was really, it was the teacher hadn't graded this massive report yet. And so, you know, on record, it looks like his grade was like going down.
Starting point is 00:37:47 And so then we get this notification. I'm like, wow. It's insane. It makes a big difference because I think sometimes parents are busy. And so they don't know. And then you suddenly get a grade. Communication. Yeah, because that would happen in the schools I went to.
Starting point is 00:38:02 It was like my parents had no idea until the grade came out. And then it was like a shock if I ended up missing a bunch of, you know, assignments and stuff. So, yeah. Anyway, I looked up, I also found this cool chart of average IQ score. in every state of the U.S.? Are we going to guess what the smartest states are? Yeah, you know, how about this?
Starting point is 00:38:24 Why don't you guess, yeah, give me which state has the lowest IQ score and which one do you think has the highest? This is a dangerous game, by the way. We're going to insult some people right now. Maybe. You might.
Starting point is 00:38:39 Where do you think some of the highest IQ scores are? I'm going to guess like a northwest West place. Wherever Harvard is. I'm going to say Massachusetts. You're saying Massachusetts? That's not a bad guess.
Starting point is 00:38:53 So here's what's interesting about this. Where did you guys think California would? Not very high. Why? I think California sucks for a lot of reasons. Yeah, I do. You know, it's crazy. Some people would say we have a high IQ.
Starting point is 00:39:06 Well, here's what we have. We have two extremes. You're right. Yeah. And that's what we have. The average sucks. So maybe somebody who's in a very affluent area who thinks that like, oh my God, we have some of the highest IQ kids.
Starting point is 00:39:18 It's like, yeah, but then we also have the other end of the spectrum, and the average of California brings California down. You're right. So that's my guess. We're the second to last. I feel like you're. I didn't know we're that low. California's second to last. Wow.
Starting point is 00:39:31 Which is crazy again because we're supposedly have all the brains. Yeah, Silicon Valley. We have all these tech. But you're right. That's why. We have the two ends. Yeah. Maine has one of the highest IQs.
Starting point is 00:39:42 You're in the right direction. North Dakota. Another high one. What's the lowest? Mississippi is just slightly lower. Just slightly lower in California. The average here is 95.5. Mississippi's 94.
Starting point is 00:39:54 I was going to see Minnesota just because of my cousins, they live there and get a jab at them. No, I think the highest, from what I'm seeing here, I think is Maine at 103.4. Oh, 103. That's a big range. Yeah, it is. That's quite a bit of a difference.
Starting point is 00:40:08 Alaska is 99, which isn't bad. Texas is 100. I would have guessed Texas to be higher. They beat. Here's what's crazy. crazy because you can compare California to Texas because you could see like similar demographics,
Starting point is 00:40:21 immigrants, you know, that kind of stuff, immigration. But no, they beat California by quite a bit. I didn't realize that we were the second to last. Yeah. It's because of how well. I bet you also there's extremes here. I bet you, yeah, some of the brightest kids come out of here. Yeah. So
Starting point is 00:40:37 yeah, we have some of the higher ones, but I think it's because of the other, it's how wide the spectrum is and then they're taking an average probably. I got another interesting study on using the, I'm going to pull this up here, using a hot tub before doing a lift. What do you think that did to performance?
Starting point is 00:40:57 Brought it down. Yeah. I mean, increased. Okay, so the positive would be just the warming up and the loose and core temperature increase. Like, that would be the positive,
Starting point is 00:41:07 but I would think that it would be like almost. So here's a study. It says, what kind of performance we're talking about? Are you talking about? Sting heavy weight? Vertical jump performance, lower limb power and stretch shortening cycle. Wow.
Starting point is 00:41:20 Sitting in the hot tub makes you more powerful. Wow. A new study found that sitting in a warm bath improved jumping performance compared to a neutral temperature bath and a group of physically active individuals. The improvement in performance was acute. It dissipated after 15 minutes. Did they compare it to an ice bath? I mean, interesting, the ice path didn't compressing. No, they didn't.
Starting point is 00:41:41 They didn't. Because I tell you what, I don't. I don't know. about power, though. That's interesting. Yeah. I know you get catacolamine and you stimulate. You'd be mentally stimulated. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:49 But would you have guessed that? I wouldn't have guessed that. Yeah. Neither would I. I mean, how long did they sit in the tub for? I didn't say how long they were in there for. 40, oh, 45 minutes. Forty-five minutes, too?
Starting point is 00:42:00 Yeah. Way too relaxed to then go do something. It was 40 to 40 to 40. I'm a mush after 45 minutes in the hot tub. I'm like wrinkly. How warm is 40 to 42 degrees Celsius? Maybe it's not as hot as like a hot toast. That's like 90-something, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:42:15 Is that 90-something? Let's see how many degrees that is, Fahrenheit. Yeah, it's 104, actually. That's hot, bro. That's real hot. And they had better performance. And this is just showing that warming up, it increases muscle elasticity,
Starting point is 00:42:29 nerve conduction velocity, and rate of energy production or performance. Would it not guess that? Yeah. So it's interesting because this kind of points to what warming up, part of what warming up does. And you said that effect kind of wears out.
Starting point is 00:42:46 I wonder, you know, what that looks like in terms of like your, the rate of fatigue, like after that. So like how long, you know, versus like if I did that ahead of time, like would that cut into my. That's a good question. Your stamina, strength stamina. Well, so this also points to other studies. So I'll say this.
Starting point is 00:43:02 Other studies found no significant effects of warming up on higher repetition weight training. Really, it's for power feats like jumping one rep maxes is where you use. see this this kind of improvement. Interesting. That's interesting right. That is an interesting stat. Yeah, so it kind of makes me think a little bit about how I would apply that, you know, to workouts or whatever.
Starting point is 00:43:25 Yeah, that's super a while. Yeah. Yeah. I enjoy it. Do you guys, you guys hate working out in the heat? Oh, I hate it. No. Yeah, absolutely. At all. I mean, I'll do it out of spite, you know, because I know it's good. Well, it's like, you know, when you don't, you know, sometimes you want angry workout, you know. And you're like, oh, I freaking hate when it's hot.
Starting point is 00:43:45 And it's like, oh, I don't, I don't like after it. I don't like it. But I'm, I'm sure I like it more than I like a really cold. Because if it's ice cold and like, when we're up in Truckee, there's a lot of times I tell myself, I'm going to work out when I get there. And I'm like, it's too deep. Oh, really? When the ball, when you grab the bar and it, like, hurts your hand. You know, you guys didn't.
Starting point is 00:44:03 It's interesting that you would say that, Justin, because you played football. And the seasons in football can be pretty gnarly. And you guys are playing no matter what. Oh, yeah, yeah. I grew, my earliest workouts, which is imprint. on me is in my backyard when I was a kid and if it was freezing or boiling hot I was out there and so I have I think an association and so I like it I like working out in extreme temperatures if it's freezing put me in sweaters in a hoodie and I see my breath and the bar hurts my hands
Starting point is 00:44:31 if it's hot I love it too I think probably because I've had some of the worst games and with the heat and also humidity like both of those like oh my god I remember We're just being delirious and puking. Whoa. Oh, it was bad. Yeah, I lost probably like 10 pounds. Yeah, I don't know which one I like less. That's it.
Starting point is 00:44:52 That's an interesting. You played indoor sports, sort of. Yeah, this is a basketball. Jim's heated. Jim's heated. All the time. I like the... Dude, playing in the snow is the best.
Starting point is 00:45:03 I was just going to say NFL films. When I was a kid, I watched them, believe it or not. I don't know if I ever told you to say, so like watching NFL films from that. What? Yeah, when I was a kid. That's a hidden secret. I could tell you a little bit about, like, football
Starting point is 00:45:13 players from the 16th or something. You're trying to watch the bears, right? Yes, dude. Yes, bro. And I'd love watching the films where you see their breath. And then you got that guy talking in the music in the background. It's like, what's going on? It's like a war.
Starting point is 00:45:25 Only because you brought up sports. Oh, man. You guys had you. What have I done it? No, this is for the audience, okay? So for the audience, if you have not watched the Alan Iverson documentary on Prime, such a good documentary. Really? Yes.
Starting point is 00:45:38 I mean, he's arguably one of the most impactful basketball players. in our time. Not just his game, but culturally. And he's got such a great story. I mean, he literally came from nothing. He was tiny and small. And his game was incredible. And he really, so what you guys see,
Starting point is 00:45:58 you guys know we talked about this a little bit, like how I told you guys, the NBA and the NFL is turned into a fashion show, like what they wear. Oh, going into the game when they're walking in the... You know where that comes from, Alan Iverson. Okay. So Alan Iverson bucked our culture completely.
Starting point is 00:46:12 He was the first person to kind of have, like, up in that point, you know, back David Stern days, the commissioner and everything like that kept all the players like proper. They wore suits to the game, very professional. Alan Averson was the first like, I'm going to wear what I want to wear and wore baggy and chains and first one to have tattoos in the league and diamond. So all that stuff that you see today in the game and all these like crazy outfits started from him. Started from him. So he was, yeah. So he's a real. And he took a lot of heat back then, a lot of heat for it.
Starting point is 00:46:42 So it's interesting that we accept it and we just, it's normal now. You know, the crap talking game and fighting, you know, who really popularized that? I don't know if it was the first one. Yeah, it was Mohammed Ali. Oh, yeah. He was the first one to play that game where he would come out and he would, you know, say poems and talk crap and just before that, you were supposed to be professional. Yeah. And then the fighters figured out and promoters.
Starting point is 00:47:04 He laid the blueprint for that now. That's how you make money. Yeah. The fight is not even the money. The money is like how hyped you can get everybody. Yeah, totally. Yeah, leading into it. So anyway.
Starting point is 00:47:12 Anyway, I want to talk about one of our partners, Luminose, their GHKCU skin serum, right? GHCCCU is that peptide. And, you know, something dawned on me. GHKCU as a peptide is blue. It's blue. Yeah, copper. If you're using a, and of course they can add coloring, but look at the ingredients. When you use luminose by interi, it is a blue.
Starting point is 00:47:36 Yeah. It is a blue liquid. Yeah, they're not hiding it. No, it's because it's got a lot of GHKCCCCCN. It's the highest concentration that I've found because I've seen other products out there and they sprinkle it in there. This is like, you're going to get like 10 times as much
Starting point is 00:47:49 in this than you will in other stuff. Yeah. And it's a blue. You can see it when you pull it up. Is that completely derived from like a lab or does that come from something? No, it's synthetic. It's a peptide that your body produces. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:03 But they don't extract it. Extract it from something else. They create it. Yeah. Now they don't have a bunch of people. They take it out of it. And is it? Because it's, it's, it's smirfs. Oh my God
Starting point is 00:48:13 It seems to be this range with peptides As far as the price of all them Yeah And if they're all synthetically made I would think that they're all Reasonably the same price or process to make Or is there why is there such a wide range? Because of the concentration
Starting point is 00:48:29 Well oh between the peptides Some are harder to get than others But if you if you know So here's what's funny I don't understand that Why are some harder to get if it's all synthetically Not everybody makes the peptides There are certain producers and suppliers of these peptides.
Starting point is 00:48:44 So it's not like you're going to, you know, you don't have, you know, a hundred producers. Oh, so that's all pure supply and demand. So it's because it's, because it's worked so well, everybody loves it. If you know the price of GHKCU in the market and you look at a product that says it has it in it, you could pretty much just through the price alone figure out how much is in there. Because if a bottle is, you know, $15, you're like, this can't possibly have more than a tiny bit. Yeah. of GHKC unit because the cost of the raw peptide itself.
Starting point is 00:49:13 And so luminos is like way higher. Yeah. That's why you could tell, you know, when you're using it. Oh, just on the reason peptides are more expensive. What is it? In some cases. Complexity of synthesis and purification. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:29 That's what they say. Yeah. That's, yeah, there's people now that are combining, they call it the glow stack, speaking of peptides. That sounds funny. Yeah, so you guys know if you come. combine pentadeca argonate previously we would say BPC 157 but now pentadeca argonate is a better slight tweak on it right so that plus thymus and beta that's they call that the wolverine
Starting point is 00:49:53 stack right because it makes you just heal very quickly if you add GHKCU to that they're calling it the glow stack because yes you have faster recovery but like talk about skin this is what now a lot of women are using so wait wait tell me the stack what are all GHKCU with thymus and beta and pentadeca argonate or bPC one-fizzo. So basically the Wolverine stack added with GHKCU. They're calling that the glow stack. And what you're having a lot of people now talk about it and be like, oh my God, this is like nothing has made my skin look better than this combination.
Starting point is 00:50:25 Interesting. Now are the other, I mean, I would think because one of them is tamping down inflammation and regenerative, I would think that those are playing a role too. They're all anti-inflammatory. They're all regenerative, just different through different mechanisms. And they're synergistic. Yeah. So you get connective tissue, skin, muscle, all that. And so people are like, and it's funny, if you go online, you can find people posting before and afters after 30 days of using this stack. And it's crazy. Are we there yet where some of these clinics are able to open up, like, attached to a gym? Because I feel like, you know how. My buddy's doing that. Really? Really? That's what he's, remember I told you what he was trying to do. Oh, he's trying. I know you did it. No, they're partnering. Yeah. And they're going to, they're going to start. You know, you know, it was one of my. And it always drove me crazy that Bay Area doesn't have more of these.
Starting point is 00:51:11 But, oh, they will. That I, well, I would go in a different direction, but you'll get where I'm going with that. Is my favorite is gyms that have, like, really good smoothie bars inside them. Yeah. Like, I am a sucker for buying it every day. That's like a thing. And then they stop. They don't make money.
Starting point is 00:51:27 I think you get such bullshit. They don't. Whatever. Yeah. You're the business guy. I know. I'm telling you right now, the profit margins on that is way better. They just don't, people just, they don't make enough money for them.
Starting point is 00:51:38 to justify having them. I don't buy that. Yeah. Because, you know, you're going to make so much, you know, selling a jug of protein, like we do, say, like with a company like Legion or Paleo Valley, the margins on the whole thing are, but if you break it up by serving and sell it with a banana
Starting point is 00:51:55 and some chocolate strawberries or something, I mean, that, the margins go up dramatically. The problem is you have to have someone manning it, making it, you know, cleaning the, you got space taken up for it. They just don't make a, remember. I mean, Jamba Juice figured it out really well. Yeah, but that's Jamba Juice.
Starting point is 00:52:11 That's not a gym. People aren't going to the gym to do it. I think that's just too. I think they haven't done a good job of building a reputation around it to keep it. I mean, obviously some gyms have proven they've done it. But I've always thought that and then now that we have this petty, like imagine it's your gym. Tell me you're not. So when I had that in a gym where you can get your smoothie and your peptide shots.
Starting point is 00:52:30 Oh, yeah. Oh, that would be huge. Well, the senators want to go to, they have the peptides there. Oh, he does have it. Yeah. In there? Uh-huh. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:52:39 Yeah, yeah, up front, yeah. I didn't know that. Yeah, and also, well, part of the recovery lab. So they built a lot of stuff out for the recovery section in the front. And yeah, you can sign up. You know, and I think it's in Mexico, there are bodybuilder gyms, like these kind of like high-end bodybuilder gyms where you hire a trainer and they put you on anabolic steroids. No.
Starting point is 00:53:00 Because it's legal. It's over the calendar. Well, that's like Dubai is like that, too. Yeah. So you'll hire a trainer. Crazy. And they'll put you on like a stack of antibiotics with your trainer. So everybody's like, I have the best trainers in Mexico.
Starting point is 00:53:12 Real effective. I got so strong. I mean, just the D-Ball. I mean, there's just got to be a market for the high-end client who appreciates those two things. I mean, I would pay a pretty price for a gym. I agree. Yeah, totally. The gym industry, we've talked about this off air, is completely divided now.
Starting point is 00:53:30 I know. And that's why I think this is the time. It's either real dirt cheap. This is why the time. There's opportunity there for sure. Like, to counter your argument for the. the price and like, okay, so I don't know what Santa Cruz is right now.
Starting point is 00:53:42 It's a higher end. It's, yeah, well, that's the thing. It's an add-on. For those types of amenities, it's a huge ad-off. So that's how you get me, right? So it's like, I want shakes and smoothies. So my membership's $5 more a month or whatever like that. Like, okay.
Starting point is 00:53:53 Like, to have access to that. And if you get enough members that agree to five more dollars. You know, that's funny right now, every time we ever go to a gym, you do buy a smoothie if they have one. I do, bro. Maybe it's a bit. If it's there, I'm with you. Maybe it's a bit of nostalgia.
Starting point is 00:54:07 Because the gold gym where I used to grow up used to have that. They made the best. Like, you know, they had them categories as like, you know, lean. Yeah. Mass game. And they were so good. And it was like, that was all part of. And that was, hey, $3.50 was a lot of money to me back then, too.
Starting point is 00:54:21 I still spent that every single time I came in there. I'm like, I'm getting one of those. Like, it's good. I would never like the pre-made already ones. It's like to have one that was like made on site. So different. So different to have a blended one than the ready to drinks inside the rat option. Was it American bodybuilding ready to drinks?
Starting point is 00:54:36 Yes, ABV. Do you guys remember those? Do you remember those? They were disgusting. I used to drink their amino force or whatever. It was so bad. They made Speedstack, right? Yes, yes.
Starting point is 00:54:45 Same company. Same company. Is ABB. Yes. Yes. Was it? Yes. Yeah, ripped fuel and all that.
Starting point is 00:54:49 Yeah. Well, Doug, look up ABB. RTD. I should have been an investor in that company because I, you know that they should bring that back with the FedEx. Mark and I, Mark made his connection, my buddy. Down in L.A. Oh, bro.
Starting point is 00:55:02 You're so funny about this. You told me about this. Yeah. Down in L.A. Okay. This is true story. with a guy at 7-11. This was like training you to the next business.
Starting point is 00:55:11 He had a connection with a guy at 7-Eleven who would give us like just a little bit over wholesale prices for speed-ed-old. So it was better prices than I could get anywhere else training. Mark and I would go down once a month and load... All the way to L.A. All the way to L.A. Okay, six-hour drive or whatever it is. And load the entire bed up of like...
Starting point is 00:55:29 With speed stacks. Of speed stacks. So, and then I had dedicated refrigerators at my house to, like, of speedstack from that. And we would buy it by, we would buy them to all your trainers. I used to drink, I used to drink this one called Blue Thunder. Do you remember Blue Thunder? I remember. Blue Thunder was, it had everything in it.
Starting point is 00:55:44 Oh, horrible. Yeah. It was the worst, but I'm like, I'm getting big for sure. Yeah. You know, I've never looked in to see if, uh, how much of that, like, had like the real, was there, it had to be garbage. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:57 Their amino force, whatever. They still, they're still existing, right, Doug? A.B. Yeah. Yeah, I believe so. Yeah. Look at Blue Thunder. Blue Thunder, yeah, I'm finding this right now.
Starting point is 00:56:07 Is Blue Thunder? What is in Blue Thunder? You know, I don't know if they're selling it. Let me see. I see them in gym sometimes still, so they're still around. I wonder, who's the parent company, or is it ABB? I think it's ABB. Somebody had to buy them out by now.
Starting point is 00:56:22 Yeah, the information on it, it's pretty... It's underground operation. I don't think they're that active anymore. Maybe they're not even in business. I don't know. It's a big money laundering business. You know, I would almost would buy some. right now.
Starting point is 00:56:35 Oh, yeah. No, you can get it. Speech stack. You can. Yeah, but it's not the same. Yeah, it doesn't have Ephedra. It took that. I mean, it's still good.
Starting point is 00:56:42 I was drinking it post-ephedra, too, but it's not the same. It's like, it's only 250 milligrams. It's not going to almost give you a heart attack. I'm not going to sprint laps, you know, in a confined space. It had 200, this is just for the audience. Understand how great, how dangerous and bad this was. 200 milligrams of caffeine, 25 milligrams of a fetro is 250. Stacked.
Starting point is 00:57:03 And in the bottle said, and, and the bottle said, three a day. So I believe it was 250. And by the way, I don't know if they still have this, but they used to have a super speed stack. I used to sweat out of my eyes. I remember.
Starting point is 00:57:15 Wow. How many years off our life do you think we did? Oh, I don't know, dude. I don't know. I like the new one has a proprietary meth-zantz stack. That's just, that's the... Meth. It just added meth.
Starting point is 00:57:31 That's the chemical name of caffeine. Does it give you the breakdown of caffeine? Does it give you the breakdown of caffeine? in those ones now? No, it's all caffeine. Now look, it's a proprietary... No, no, I know. But they normally will sell... Total caffeine's 250. 250. So, yeah, yeah. It was 250 for the regular and
Starting point is 00:57:44 350 for the big monster one. Yeah. That's hilarious. Anyway, good time. I'm talking about another one of our partners. You know, Paleo Valley's meat sticks have completely ruined other meat sticks for me. Completely ruined. It's been a while since we talked about them and like,
Starting point is 00:58:00 it's crazy because that's probably one of the products I eat the most of. Oh, yeah. Around here. Oh, my God. I love those things so much. It's the, it's because they ferment it. It's, that's why it's not dry. Do you guys remember that it was the, it was that attracted the bear into our house? Oh, yeah. I had, I just imagined it's sitting there eating.
Starting point is 00:58:20 We had like 25 pounds of it. Like, I had this huge, like, Costco super bag. And it was nothing but beef sticks. And I took it up there, like the weekend before up to our place. And I left it in our laundry room. Did he eat all the meat sticks? Like 90% of them? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:35 Wow. Yeah. And then licked our peanut butter jar clean. That's so weird. But I mean, there was so much meat sticks and peanut butter and snacks like that. Like he left the rest of the food. Like he got full. Like he ate enough.
Starting point is 00:58:46 Didn't you poop on the floor? Yes. Yeah. Yeah. He probably stomach hurt afterwards. Yeah. He kept coming back for years after that too because he scored big at that time. You guys know that was it that year the golf tournament happened?
Starting point is 00:59:03 and the bear was caught, the same bear. Yeah, ran across the, yeah, right, during the tournament. That's the bear that came to the house. It is. 100% it is. That's why it was so true. Right across from her house.
Starting point is 00:59:13 My buddies that are big golfers were like, oh, check this out. He's like, hey, Adam, is your place? I'm like, that's the bear. That's the one. That's the bear. He ain't all our paleo valley. They should have turned down to a commercial.
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Starting point is 00:59:52 Are adduction and abduction machines actually useful? We haven't talked about these in a long time. It depends on what you're bad girls. Good girl, bad girls. Yeah. It depends on what you're used. what you're using them for. For correctional exercise purposes,
Starting point is 01:00:06 if there's a dysfunction, I can see value. I can see value in a particular type of person who needs to strengthen the ability to abduct or adduct. So abducting is bringing the legs apart. Adducting is bringing them together. By the way,
Starting point is 01:00:19 you want to know how I remember that from my first certification? Add. Add. And abducting. Yeah. Take away like an alien's taken. Anyway.
Starting point is 01:00:25 Yeah. Aside from that, not really. And now most people don't use them for correctional exercise purposes. Most people use them because they want to build the sides of their body and the insides of the thighs. But you're not going to get much of that. I'm going to make the – because I remember having this debate with some people. And I'm like – you could throw them in the trash, in my opinion.
Starting point is 01:00:47 And the reason why is because the only argument for it is what you just said. And even that, if you're a good enough trainer that does corrective exercise, I can think of things like Miguel Plains, tube walking. Side lunges. Side lunges. Yeah, we have six squats. There's just – there's a – there's a – a plethora of movements that I would do instead of that if I was trying to address that thing.
Starting point is 01:01:08 I cannot think of a case where I was doing it for corrective reasons and I would default to that machine instead of doing one of those other movements. So that's the reason why when people bring this machine up, I go, yeah, it's pretty much worthless. But can you make a case to do it? Yeah, you could. Bull-legged dudes. There's a case there. So I started using it for my hips.
Starting point is 01:01:29 My daughter use the abduction machine. But that's because I'm not there to train her. So she's 15. And there's a couple things I have her do because I know what the risk factor is for ACL tears and female athletes. And I know part of that, it's more complex than what I'm about to say,
Starting point is 01:01:47 but part of it is lateral stability. And so if I'm not there to train her, I'll have her help on the abduction machine. So typically when I write up a workout for her, that's what I'll have her do. Yeah, I mean, the glute meat is involved. in that also and you can make the case for that's most people that have sleepy butt syndrome
Starting point is 01:02:03 have a bit of a problem with that a lot of times we have this slight internal rotation of the femur and the feet kind of pigeon toe in or feet flatten and because of that people have a really poor connection to the glute meat and so then you can make the argument in the case so like you know
Starting point is 01:02:19 you're getting that involved and some so there's some value there. I just think that you know talented good trainer trainer it's like it's it's up there the And most people Most useful Useful.
Starting point is 01:02:31 And most people wouldn't really need Any other. If you're going to spend 20 minutes on this like you're better off lunging or squatting. You'll get more better
Starting point is 01:02:37 I mean I love assisted Miguel planes better for something like that man Oh do that for if you haven't done that If you're whoever put this question in look up assisted Miguel planes and do that movement instead You get far more benefit. Next question is from Samantha J. Belonga
Starting point is 01:02:55 How do you set a goal for how much muscle to build during a certain period of time. I have a six months of a slow season and I want to set a muscle goal instead of a weight loss goal. You know, so I'll help this. I'm going to help you right now. It's great that you have a muscle goal.
Starting point is 01:03:11 But a better goal that would be strength. Because a muscle goal is hard to quantify. I guess you're going to do what body composition test each time. If you're more or less hydrated. So parse that out, it's going to be tough. But strength is
Starting point is 01:03:26 a great predictor of muscle growth. It's a very strong correlate. You're better off having a strength goal instead of a muscle. And a six-month period, I don't know who this is. I don't know how advanced you are, but it's reasonable to say in six months with targeted strength training for strength with a calorie surplus, you could add 10 to 20 percent to some of your major lifts, maybe more, depending on how new you are. Which will result in muscle mass. And that'll give you the muscle. Yeah. Yeah, I'd be just cautioned somebody of putting a number. on something like this, like, oh, I should be able to gain five pounds or ten pounds.
Starting point is 01:04:02 Well, let's say you gave a goal. And both those could be reasonable goals, five pounds of muscle in that period of time. And then you don't hit it. But you were following an incredible program. Yeah. But you also weren't the most consistent with your protein intake. And so, do you throw the program away because it must not be working? Or do you think you need to do something different with a program when you actually did the perfect program, but you failed to hit you?
Starting point is 01:04:28 your protein take. So there's other variables involved here that... That's why I think strength's so good. It'll tell you. If you're getting stronger, you're going to build muscle. Just same for that. Yeah. And it is. It's just caution someone for saying, like, oh, I should be able to do this in this time. And then if I don't, therefore, it didn't work. The plan didn't work? And then you got to ask yourself, then why didn't it work? Was it, the plan? Or was it how you executed the plan? Was it also recovery and rest and stress? And so there's a lot of variables involved to hold yourself to a standard. And then, potentially not hit that standard and then chalked that up as, oh, I failed. I didn't do a good job.
Starting point is 01:05:04 Next question is from Fulvial Castle. Are saturated fats just plain bad? Or should they still be consumed in moderate quantities? Yeah, I haven't heard from this guy a long time. Yeah. There is a wide individual variance with saturated fats. So saturated fats in the data, high consumption tends to have a negative effect on lipids. So you tend to see LDL, you know, perform a little worse with saturated fats. But there are, there's a significant percentage of people where this just doesn't make a difference. And then there's a percentage of people where saturated fats make a big difference. Like some people can eat a healthy diet and their blood lipids are off and you have to really
Starting point is 01:05:48 cut saturated fat down to make a difference. There's a genetic component to that. Huge. I can eat so much saturated fat. And my lipids are always amazing. This has almost no effect on my, my blood lipids. limits whatsoever. So I'm in that category. I mean, would you, would you say, though, for generally speaking that having moderate quantities of it is probably a good overall thing for people? Not even just
Starting point is 01:06:10 for because of how you process saturated fats, but just also just from the amount of calories and stuff that comes there. If somebody's eating a high saturated fat diet, they're also probably consuming a lot of extra calories. See, and the problem with that is when you say that, immediately people eliminate animal sources of protein. Yeah. And that's typically not a good idea. Well, maybe that's a better way to say, actually, I mean, and that's kind of how I think I would tell of my clients is like, so long as it's coming from animals, from protein, I never really stressed about it.
Starting point is 01:06:34 Unless I had an outlier that had some weird anomaly. I haven't had a few people like that, not a lot. But I'd say, don't be getting saturated fat from other places, from processed junk food and stuff like that. Like, yeah, let's eliminate that. But if you're getting, if you're getting saturated fat, it's coming from a ribeye steak
Starting point is 01:06:50 or some tri-tip or some stuff like that, like, or some chicken thighs or I'm not like I was saying, like in most of my career training clients, the ones that were consistent, doing all the things right, there were very few people where they brought back their lipids and it was like, okay, we're doing things right, but it looks like we have to reduce saturated fat intake and increase other types of fats. But most of my clients, if their calories are appropriate, they were exercising, those whole natural foods made no, like they were great. Everything was good.
Starting point is 01:07:19 Next question is from Kimberly Jorgensen 25. I recently had to light my squat weight significantly to work on getting below parallel. When increasing the range of motion in a movement, are you still able to build muscle even if you have to decrease the weight? You'll probably build more muscle. Yep. Yep. Yep.
Starting point is 01:07:37 A good full range of motion. By the way, you have to lighten the weight because you're just not as strong. So the intensity is still good. It's a different exercise at that point. It's just, but the intensity is still high. And I'll take the extreme, right? What if you just loaded yourself with tons of weight and did a short range of motion? Are you going to build more muscle?
Starting point is 01:07:56 No. No, full range of motion tends, generally performs better, is more functional, is healthier, builds more muscle. So you're better off going lighter with good form,
Starting point is 01:08:08 with full range of motion than you are going heavier with a short range of motion. I actually remember this, going through this in my personal journey of, and I had a picture somewhere on social media,
Starting point is 01:08:18 and I've shared it before on this podcast a long time ago. There's a picture of me squatting 315, you know, before I went on my mobility kick and really tried to work on my squad depth. I got 315 on my back and like getting down to parallel. Like that was in for reps.
Starting point is 01:08:32 I don't know how many. It was like five or six reps or something like that. And that was kind of like that was really heavy for me, 315. But I had worked up to get to that point. And I remember when I started working on mobility, I had to come all the way down to like 185 to like get in like real depth. And I remember even having that kind of feeling like,
Starting point is 01:08:49 oh, this sucks. So I'm going to get. But I actually remember working my way from 185 up to 225, By time I was at 225, my legs were already bigger than I'd ever been in my life before, and I wasn't even to 315. And what was really cool was eventually that squat that I'd never seen over 315, ended up getting up all the way up to a 405 squat with full depth. And that's the best my legs ever looked by far.
Starting point is 01:09:11 And so I was squatting significantly less weight than what I was to parallel with bigger, stronger legs. And so don't be afraid of that. You're not going to lose. You will actually end up gaining more with the newfound range of motion. Look, if you like the show, come find us on Instagram. We'll see you. It's at Mind Pump Media.
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