Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 2728: Strange Training Hacks for Faster Gains

Episode Date: November 14, 2025

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favorites. Let's go. Yeah. I have no science to support mine. Yeah. We can try to explain some of these, but I'll start. Science bros will love this. I'll start with one of mine. And this isn't, I've experimented with this in the past. So I'll start up by kind of selling it a little bit, right? So, you know, progressive overload. This is like a foundational principle and strength training. What this refers to is essentially get your body to be able to do more over time is what gets the body to change.

And progressive overload can look like adding weight to the bar. You could look like doing more reps. It could look like increasing your volume, meaning like more sets, more reps, more weight. One of each of those are all of them. Sure. Now, the problem with this is it doesn't work forever. It's not linear. Forever increase your, you know, progressively overload because if that were the case,

by this point, I'd be doing a thousand sets per body part. I've been doing this for so long. So at some point, backing down starts to actually give results. This is where things get a little crazy. This is what I love about strength training is it's not an exact science. In many cases, especially when someone's advanced, taking them down in volume, gets their body suddenly to respond. So what I've done with programming in the past is I've taken a workout program.

I've kept everything the same. And every week I add a set to every body part until I get to about 15 to 20 sets per body part. And then what I do is I start over again. And I go all the way back down to where I started, which typically is around nine sets and then work my way up. So it would look like nine sets, 10 sets, 11 sweat. And I go all the way up to let's say 15 to 20 until I feel like, oh, I'm doing too much. Then I go all right back down to the beginning. And each time I've done something like this, I see some changes in my body.

I see strength increases. It's different. Novelties in there, kind of set in there. So that's just one way. And I don't have a name for it. I don't know what you would call it, you know, pyramiding the volume up and down. But it's just something I'm sure somebody's coined it somewhere. Maybe.

Or I invented it right now. One of mine that I picked was more movement related. The other day we were talking about. just like these like king of exercises and exercises that are so valuable what came up in the conversation was I think I brought it up like I think that being able to extend your arms above your head fully extend is like one of the first things to go for so many people including myself I remember part of why I never did standing overhead press was because it always bothered my low back and I was so I just like a typical knucklehead. I just eliminated. Oh, I wouldn't do it. I'll just do seated all the time versus addressing what was going on. And I remember first doing the Z press.

And because it forces you into this position to kind of pull your head and stabilize, and it takes the lower body out of it, it kind of reconnected me. And without, and I love. Especially the extension. Yes. And I love you'll fall back. Yes. And I love.

some of my favorite, like when you brought this up of like some things for us, like some of my favorite things that come to mind are like trainer hacks that like I figured out along the way that not only made it a huge impact maybe on my own journey, but also it was like massive for my clients. And so the Z press became this movement. And I wish I had found it earlier in my training career. Because if I could go back and do it all over again, that would have been a staple exercise that I probably taught every single one of my clients.

since so many people are limited by their ability to get full extension above their head. And I also think how much that alleviates a lot of chronic upper back pain and neck pain that people have and issues. By the way, for people who are into bodybuilding, that Z-Press gives me the craziest shoulder pump. Yes. The craziest because of what you said. Like if you're not perfectly upright at the top and bringing your head through the window and getting like you're going to fall on your back on your back. so you get this crazy squeeze in this range of motion. I do, yeah, I think it has something to do with that full extension.

There's a bit of an isometric kind of holding contraction at the top. Just so different than what you would do. And so, yes, I agree. It was some of the best pumps. And it really trained that movement pattern for me and my clients. And again, I wish I had found that earlier on in my career because of how valuable that. And then we have that in some of our programs. but if you don't do that, I just, yeah, experiment with that and add that into your routine.

Yeah, I think for things that we normally wouldn't program, if we're going to go in that direction, like I go through bouts and periods of really challenging my instability and creating more chaos training, I guess they call it. And so that being like weight that shifts and moves. And so for me, a lot of times you can use rubber band. in this regard. Like if the most simple example I could come up with is probably like, let's say like a suitcase carry. Now I can tie like a rubber band onto a kettlebell. Oh, yeah. I'm walking and it's it's actually bouncing and it's moving, but I have to stabilize

that and be able to walk with like way less discipline. Way less predictable. Lots of different variables I'm adding. And you can kind of apply that same concept too to like if I do a bottoms up kettlebell press, there's just a lot more vectors of four. that's like you have to account for. What's that one bar, Justin? The bamboo bar, the earthquake bar. Yeah. Do you guys remember when we were...

I love doing that. I want to say we were an on it. I think we went to on it. And we did, there's a picture of it out in the studio sometimes they'll come up. We're doing the overhead press. But the barbell had bands attaching to kettlebells hanging down. Yeah. Remember how that felt?

Well, it kind of reminds me of the Z press. That same kind of like... Requires you. Yeah, yeah, that required that stability that you had to to get that full extension. And so... focus and intention, right? You got to slow everything down and you really have to account for a lot of that movement. And I think that it's interesting because it's not like something people like don't seek that out for muscle building benefits.

But again, this fills a lot of gaps where there's bits of instability. There's shifting weight in like a barbell press. And so it's like it's a strength you don't realize like really adds into the overall. Well, I would actually, and I look. love to make this case an argument for the bodybuilding community because I think one of things I was blessed with was that I had a lot of trainer friends like Justin and people that did a lot of this stuff. And I did a lot of that. I experimented with a lot of stuff. And I found a lot of benefit to building and scrolling into your point, it fills all these gaps. You

increase that stability and strength and that shoulder girdle and then go see what kind of weight that you can press over your head. And so you may not think of it as a direct bodybuilding exercise. When you're addressing a weak link. That's right. And I think that's one of the areas. I remember, like, you know, I was lucky to train in a gym during that time of, like, a lot of competitors.

And I trained really unconventional compared to the guys. I still trained bodybuilder-esque. But there was stuff like that that I always included that you just didn't see, you know, I even had like, I ran, I did snatches. I did stuff. I did exercises that your typical bodybuilder. just ignored and thought, oh, those are power lifter movements or those are, you know, functional guys do that stuff.

And it's like, man, when you're, especially when you're training as much as you are to be a bodybuilder. You're in the gym a lot. You're doing a lot of exercises. To me, it's silly to not include a lot of these movements that fill those gaps. And I think it only makes all the other lifts that much better. I agree. All right.

Here's one that I think people can have a lot of fun with. And it was inspired by the story of, I think, is not. name was Milo. This is like one of the first, this is one of the first Progressive Overload. Oh, the Carrey the Bull. Yeah, so this is one of the first examples, historical examples of when people understood progressive overload. Wait, wait, wait, it's historical? It's real? It's not real. It's like a legend. Or like a myth. Okay, yeah, yeah. But it's, it's old. It's really old. I don't know how old that story is. Maybe you can look it up, Doug, but it's the first example of like that people

understood progressive overload. Got it. I love this story. And the story goes that Milo would go and lift a calf up in the air and would do this every day. And of course, the calf grows into a bowl. Therefore, Milo every day is lifting a little bit more weight and getting stronger and stronger. So the idea around this, and this could be a lot of fun. You can experiment with this. First off, you want to have a good program, one that doesn't over train you. So the volume is low to moderate, compound lifts.

You need to do that with this type of lifting. Great, I would say, Maps 15 or MAPS endabolic would be to do this with. Yes. So MAPS 15 would be great for something like this. here's what you do. And you can buy these now. And I remember when I first thought of this, I couldn't find it, but you could buy two. I had this one too. Yeah. You can buy micro weights. Yep. And they're magnets. And they go up in increments of as little as a quarter of a pound. Oh, quarter of a pound. I thought they were small like two, too. No, no, no, no. They could go as little as a quarter of them.

They're fractional weights. And so what you do is you do your normal workout. Then the next week, you bump your calories by 50. This is all you do. 50 more calories a day, if you want to get, have fun with it. And then you go up a quarter pound on every lift. And you do this until it stops working. And what you'll find is at first it's going to feel the same. But over, you know, in four weeks, it's a pound heavier on every lift. The next four weeks is another pound lift. And if you keep doing this, it gets really fun. Now you can go up more than fractional. I think fractional is more fun. It stretches it out. Yeah. And you don't have to necessarily better for you to do it that way. You don't have to necessarily bump your calories. But at some point, you probably are going to want to. And I mean, you do this for a year and your lifts are all

heavier. And it feels like you're not lifting heavier because it's... I've always wanted to do that. It's one of those things that I haven't actually bought. Like, I was in a gym one time where they had fractional weights and was able to add little magnets. Yeah. And you just, you don't even realize it. No. It's a trip. You just put the mat. When did that story? When was it first? Yeah, ancient Greece during the 6th century BCE. Yeah, really cool. Wow. Really really cool stuff. So I have a controversial maybe bodybuilding tip then and I know for sure you guys have seen me talk about this. There's a YouTube video of me doing this.

If you catch me training shoulders, you will almost always see this make its way into my routine. And that is the bent over one arm reverse cable fly. Yeah, you love this. I, and again. Now you're pulling it across. Yeah, it's just different. There's not a lot of people train it that way.

Well, you load the stretch of the reardell. Where else would you load this? Exactly. Yeah. And so I, to this day, attribute a big part of my shoulder development, which when I was competing was a strength of mine to that exercise. Nothing, nothing pumps my rear delts like that. I don't feel as, there's no other exercise.

I feel as connected. The complete range of motion, I feel completely connected to the rear delt. I love that movement. And I also think that rear delts are overlooked in shoulder development. I think a lot of people don't realize. It's the most aesthetic part of the delt. People don't even realize. And we do so much in front of us that your interior delts get a lot of attention.

You know, if you just bench press and you do movements, everybody does front raises, things like, the anterior delts get a good amount of attention. And it's not to say that that part is not a big part of shoulder. It's just they already get a lot of attention. Not a lot of people train the rear delts and train them. properly and do them frequently. And so I think it's already an overlooked, underrated part of the body to train. And then I think that exercise is, in my opinion, the king of Reardell exercises.

Well, here's probably, here's one of the reasons why, too, I said it earlier, Adam, but now we have all these studies to support this. Loading a muscle in a stretch position, it really produces hypertrophy or muscle growth. And so what you're doing when you're bent over with the cable and the cable is across your body, so your arm has to come across your body, it's loaded. right out the gates. And that's probably why. And it's a deep stretch because I cross all the way over my body until I'm as far as I can go over there and I feel that stretch. And then you take it all. And it's a full range. You know, I got to try it. I full disclosure. I've only done it once.

I need to start implementing. My delts develops pretty well. So it's not like I, you know, but I'm going to try it. It is a, it's a staple movement for me. And I remember when I first started doing it. And I, of course, I understand the science of novelty and like that probably played a role in that. but I still think it's one of the king of exercises. And I think it's a bit controversial. No one would have list that as the king of like shoulder exercises. And I'm not saying I would replace that over a traditional shoulder press or a movement like that. But it's got to be in that.

Yeah. Yeah, I definitely, I mean, this one's controversial just in that conventional setting. Like people won't do rounded back lifting. Oh, great. I love it mainly because it's so functional. It's like to be able to, again, I was exposed to it because I was in a gym that had Atlas stones and had sandbags and had a lot of really heavy weights that were hard to organize, you know, your body around without like really hugging and pulling and squeezing while you're lifting and driving up. So to be able to do that, it's so raw. It's like a raw strength move that I feel like because we're so, again, anteriorly driven,

like everything, we're trying to correct that all the time that like we're, we steer clear of this position, which let's strengthen this position as well. Yeah. I love that too. And in fact, again, you know, back to that time of training for me, we were hanging out. And there's a video if you go far enough back in my Instagram. And with the big, the big, heavy bag, picking it from the green. I don't remember it's one of the big ones.

It's one of the big sandbag. I don't even know if I could pick it up right now. And it was how many times could I get it in a certain time? Remember we bought a bunch of them and they stayed exactly where we put it in. So we went through like a minute of training like that. Because you know why? Because we've heard. That was part of I was on that kick of including that into my routine.

And you would never think to do that as a bodybuilder guy. I love that. To be clear, rounded upper back, not lower back. Thank you. So it's when you're hugging something. the way, you could do this with Zerter lifts. So Zerter Deadlifts, Zercher squats, they tend to protract the shoulder girdle.

That's what Justin means. And listen, from a fun, look, as a grad, when I was in, not shrimp lifting. Judo, when I was doing wrestling, like, when you're grabbing someone, this is how you pick them up. You're not picking them up with the shoulders. Exactly. You're doing that.

You're doing that. That's why that's such an awesome thing, because it is so more realistic how you would grab something really heavy or a person and, you know what I'm saying, and throw someone around. And I'll sell it. I'll sell it right here. We talked about hypertractic. in the stretch position.

You're stretching the mid back and adding tension. Yes. It is rhomboids, mid traps. I've done that a couple times and you get sore from doing it because it's so strong as hell. It's so different. All right, I got another one. This one is, it was controversial. We now have studies that show that this is actually superior.

And we don't have a ton of studies, but I would have a guess that this is a better way to train. If you're somebody that likes athletic performance, in other words, you like all of it, strength, stamina and endurance and mobility. What your routine probably looks like is a mix throughout the week. So it probably looks like I strength train on Mondays, Tuesdays they go running, Wednesdays I do something else outside, then Thursdays they do lifting again, or your routine looks like this.

Strength training and stamina are in the same workout. This is how a lot of people train. Why? Because they want to be well-rounded. And they get it. There's nothing necessarily wrong with this, especially if it's well-programmed. This is just the standard. But you're probably better off.

going a week of pure strength training, a week of pure endurance training, every other week you alternate. In other words, one week is only strength training. And then the next week is only endurance training. And what the data seems to show, and in my experience training clients who were willing to do this,

a lot of people aren't willing to do this because they like to mix it up, you actually get better at both, doing it this way. And it's so odd and so different because if you're someone who likes to be well-rounded, it feels very strange to just focus on one for full week. And then the next week, ignore that and then train just endurance.

But this this probably produces better results long term. It leans a little bit more on the specificity. I mean, obviously you change it up. But to allow the body to actually like learn these, that type of adaptation and like, you know, hone in on it, then shift it. Like you just have a better chance of really like absorbing that type of scale. I wish I actually would have experimented. All the things we're talking about right now,

I think that's one of the ones that I really haven't ever really experimented. I could see you doing that. That's totally something I could see you have fun with. Yeah, yeah, especially if I was in the, you know, playing sports and doing things like that, it would make a lot of sense to train that way and it would be really neat to see. Yeah, the last study I saw showed that the people that train like that versus people who mix it all up,

at the end of the study, the people who did one week, you know, just strength, one week, just endurance, perform better and both strength and endurance at the end of the study. Yeah. So they actually got more of both. That's awesome. As a result, because, and I believe it. I believe it, that that's, that would have guessed.

I love that tip. Isn't that a great one? Yeah, it is a great one. I got one more. I just realized that all of them are shoulder-related. Yeah. I didn't do that intentionally. Just, those are the ones that came to mind.

The other one that popped my, and I think I should probably credit Justin here, too. I don't, I'm trying to remember the first time doing this. But a circus press from the floor up is just a, So like clean? Yeah, a clean and press circus press, right? And I don't know if that's the, the correct term, because I know a circus press is just the one-arm press, but it's with the full clean.

It is from the floor, though. Yeah, is it from the floor? Right. The circus press is considered from the floor, right? So it's like a clean impress, but we call it a circus press. I just, you can load it. I think you got this, you have this explosive component to it. You have a grinding component to it.

You have an incredible lateral stability component to it. core, crazy core strength required in it. Just a great, great movement. And again, it incorporates the lower body with the upper body. I love that movement was something I didn't do early on in my career later. I think I would have taught it a lot more had I realized what great benefits I got from it. And you don't see a lot of it. I mean, when's the last time you walked in a gym or saw someone doing a circus press?

And again, also saw great results. I thought my shoulders blew up. man, I felt like they blew up from that. All right, I got one more, and this one is a lot of fun if you want to get really strong at a particular lift. And so one caveat here is you have to organize your volume around this. So don't just add what I'm about to say to your normal workout because you'll probably overdo it. So make sure you adjust the volume of the rest of the workouts. But let's say you're just like, I want to get my squat to go up a lot.

I want to see how I want to get, I want to really boost my squat or my deadlift or my bench or my over-ed press. This is what you do. you take a weight that you could do 10 reps with that you probably could do closer to 14 reps with. So the intensity is okay, it's good, but it ain't super hard. So it's like four or five reps in reserve. Two or three days a week,

you just do 10 with it. And you never increase the weight. You just every time you do it, you pick the same weight. You do 10 reps and you do this for 30 days or for a full month. At the end of that, then see how much you can lift.

And you would be surprised. And here's what it'll feel like. It'll feel easy because it's already kind of easy. If I can do four more reps, it's not that hard. method, yeah. And then by the last week, it's going to kind of feel really easy. And then watch how much weight you add to the bar. And it typically results in a 10 to 20 pound increase. This is a Soviet training. The key to this is to, and because I would even argue going lighter before being

closer to that edge. Meaning like, it's probably something you could do 15 with, I would say. Right, right. So my point of what I'm bringing out, like where people will screw that one up is. Too heavy. Go too heavy. And when you're trained with that much frequency, you do not need a lot of load at all whatsoever. And really a lot of, I think, of the benefit is coming from the central nervous system.

Oh, it's neural adaptation. Yeah. You are just, I mean, that is becoming, like, walking for you. It's mapping it. Yeah, 30 days of moving like that consistently. And then you go back and like, let's see. Now let's try and really load this thing after a good, good arrest, right? And then go back.

That's a great one. That's a really cool. But a lot of people screw that up. because they they It's so different They pick a weight that they won Especially guys Because like to put

Because it probably proper for me Would probably be putting like 35 wheels on there Something like you know what I'm saying It's like I don't want to do that You always want to add Yes yes Oh it's going well let's add Yes and so dudes normally screw it up

Because that's the squad every day challenge That happened that like there was all that controversy around It's like well there's controversy around it Because people don't do it correct The people that did it right got great. Yeah, you do it correctly. It's incredible. But again, lean on the more moderate to low intensity than pushing like, oh, I think I could do more. That's real. Screw that up. Dude, I just read an article. I'm going to pull it up on this new military drone that,

oh, dude. That we know about, which tells you that there's something crazier. Have you seen the military new helmets that they came out with? Oh, so the guy that I think was responsible for like meta quest and and did a lot of engineering for that created like the military helmet version of that so it's basically like it's completely covered and um he's able to actually see and map people like their heat signature everything as they're behind buildings like you know like it doesn't even matter if there's environment there like they'll be able to target in to anybody just by having these on wow it's so check this out this is what's crazy so this is It's called X-Bat, and this is an AI-powered fighter jet with no pilot.

So Shield AI just unveiled the X-Bat, next-gen fighter that flies itself, takes off like a helicopter, doesn't need a runway. It's powered by HiveMind, which is a custom AI pilot. It can fly 2,000 miles, reach 50,000 feet in pack missiles. It's built for combat. Can launch from a ship in the middle of nowhere. It costs $27 million compared to the $100 million plus of the F-35. and it's very fast, very versatile. And again, it has no morals and it's willing to kill.

That's what I'm going to know. This is the price. So here's what's crazy. They're going to sell drone warfare as being more moral and humanitarian. Yeah, yeah. Like nobody's dying or whatever. You also don't have a person there who, not to say that people don't do crazy, you know, horrible things of war. Yeah, of course.

But now you got AI and it's like. And who's going to know if it goes out and just... But how many instances have there been where people have not pushed the button? Like if you go back in history, there's a lot. Do you know there's one incident where that happened where there was one, I think he was a Russian... Russian. Yeah, he was a sub-captain in a submarine. And he got all the alerts that a nuclear war started.

Yeah. And all you had to do... There were false alarms, too. It was a false alarm. All he had to do was retaliate, which is what he was ordered to do. Everybody was pressing him to do it. Like, that's what you're supposed to do. Really? And had he retallels to do?

I didn't know that story. It would have started a thermonuclear war. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Maybe Doug can look it up. I swear there's a couple of those stories and you're just like, oh my God. And again, the human element of just like staying composed to calm. Yeah, it doesn't feel right.

Yeah, if you get a directive and you're just like an AI bot or whatever, like you're going to run it all the way through. Like, what's stopping that? Yeah. Interesting. I didn't know that story. Yeah. That's why. Yeah.

And if the AI's imperative is to win. Yeah. And then it's going to do a risk assessment. And the risk assessment is going to look like, well, it's going to kill this many people versus how many people they could potentially kill. So it's less people, therefore it's okay. Let's go for it. Or killing all these innocent people will prevent a further war.

Like I'm just creating scenarios here. Let's Petrov. Read that, Doug? Yeah. So there's two guys, Stanislav's Petrov and Vasily Arkipov, both who are credited with preventing potential nuclear war by disobeying orders in separate incidents. Want more details? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So they ignored a false alarm from his command early warning system. And the other guy was a submarine officer refused to authorize the launch of a nuclear torpedo during the Cuban missile crisis. Yeah. Wow. Oh, my God. This close. Yeah.

This close to. It's nuts. Yeah, just everybody getting annihilated. Do you guys remember that movie? Was it war games? Was that the one? The kid where he went and had the co. You know what's funny?

It's so funny. This is what's so crazy about this AI development. So this movie, we've known, this is not like we're coming up with these potential dangers. Like I think it's easy to understand the danger of something like this. There was a movie called War Games. I think it was 1980 something. And in it they had designed a super intelligent computer. And the super intelligent computer, I believe, was it was going to,

it was going to start a nuclear war or they had to stop it. It was about to start a nuclear war because it was doing its own calculations. But it learned. It had the ability to learn. Yeah. And so I forgot the main,

what's the main actor in it? It's the dude from Ferris Bueller. Yeah, Matthew Broderick. Matthew Broderick is in there and he's like, wait a minute, I know how to stop it. Because they couldn't figure out how to stop it. It's going to create,

it's going to start nuclear, we're all going to die. And so Matthew Broderick said, hey, to the computer, he said, let's play, why don't you play a game of Tick-Tek-Ttoe against yourself? and tick-tac-toe

when you got two good players nobody ever wins and so keep playing keep playing and at the end of it it says nobody wins and then it figures out nobody wins nuclear war

and it stops the whole you know I can tell you you remember that I know I've watched it a bunch of times so good I could remember that movie so good but I mean that's I knew it involved a kid in a game

and I remember that he like he but he inputted that right that's what he did yeah that's how he got it to figure out right he input like his Atari game or something like hey play play you know tick-tack-toe and then it figured out

Nobody wins. This is it pointless. And then it's like, oh, nuclear war, not good either. We should probably stop it. And that's how he taught it to not do the thing. But what's crazy about this, I was having a conversation with my cousins about AI. And I made a comment that was controversial.

I said, it has the spirit. It's got a demonic spirit behind it. Of course, it was like, oh, you believe in what I said, no, no, I said, here's what I mean by that. The spirit behind, what I mean by the spirit is the energy behind the development of AI is very similar to develop the spirit that was behind the, the acceleration of nuclear war, or warheads.

It's like, we know this is bad. We know this is terrible. We have to do it or else they're going to do it. If we don't do it, they're going to do it. And so that's the spirit driving military development of AI. It's everybody knows it's a bad idea. Yeah, but don't, I mean, I overheard a really good discussion about this other day. And it's like, it does bring up like, well, what would you do?

Because would you let China go build all that? And then we're at the mercy of them of like, like, because that economically would just cripple us too. That's what I mean? It's like, what do we do? It's like you, because it's not, of course, what it's going to do for wars is the default go to that. And then the average person's like, oh, we should just not do it. Yeah, well, then China, Russia, are going to go do it. And then when that technology evolves over there, we now have to lease that technology from them to evolve our economy over here or buy everything from them because they're so far ahead of us, which then cripples our economy.

That's the spirit behind it. So it's like, it's a damned if you do, Dan, if you don't, what is the right answer, you know? There isn't one. I mean, I think the right. everybody decides to stop. I think you have to have I think you have to have faith in humanity. You have to have faith.

I mean, I know it sounds laughable, but that you have to. You have to believe, you have to believe that the guy won't hit the button. You have to believe that you're going to... It's not a guy. Well, well, yeah, this is the new territory we're getting and I think is we're taking the human out of it.

That's what's scary to me. Because then it's like, Like what, that's less. Well, there's still a human prompting it. There's still a human programming it. As of now, you know, it's going to program itself, you know, very soon. You know, what does they say? Like in five years or so?

So that's, I mean, it's accelerating. So I don't know. Again, this is what everybody's been trying to sound the alarm for it forever. But nobody listens because it's like, again, the hustle and the rate of advancement to innovate is, it just consumes it all. Meanwhile, we have that, what's that comment? Is it called Three-Eye Atlas? Bro, do you know what you want to? No, I didn't even know.

You guys just brought this out. I think you brought it up on the episode one time that we have this thing. So, Manu, Manu, what was the other one? The first one that came. I mean, do we really, can we really see it? You brought the point, like, anyway, we've got a telescope. But I'm like, can you really go down to K. Mark?

Yeah, again, there's been people that have, like, a bunch of different, like, accounts, YouTube, you know, like social media. they'll get their own telescopes and kind of show their footage. And a lot of it, too, like, I think even with the shutdown, the government shutdown, there hasn't been a lot of NASA footage of it because, you know, NASA being part of the government, but they've been getting footage from other different countries. And so that's been what's been shared. Yeah.

What are you getting over there, Doug? It's this, go ahead, Doug. No, go ahead. Let me finish this. Yeah. So it's this huge thing going through space. It's a size of a cat. It's massive.

Okay. And it's doing things that comment wouldn't normally do. Like there's early and excessive outgassing. There's unusually high levels of CO2 and nickel. There's a rapid, unexpected, brightening and blue coloring. Yeah. There's non-gravitational acceleration. So they're like, this could be intelligent.

In other words, this might be created by an intelligent species. Yeah. Well, like, Michio, Kaku, he was like that physicist, right? that he talks about like all this stuff and was saying that like one thing to look for is if it like passes around the sun if it actually like increases speed and it did it increased it accelerated after like passing the sun so it shouldn't be able to do that no no it's not down unless there's unless it's powered in the trajectory of it was in such that it came through and was able to observe and pass through each one of our planets like perfectly in this line that like had to be, it had to be deliberate because like randomly it's just,

that's hard to believe. Yeah. Yeah, what a crash. I mean, I just sounds like carbon dating. You know what I'm saying? Like we're measuring something to millions of miles away with a telescope right here. We're like, oh yeah, that's going about Mach 7

and it just went to Mach 8. And it's admitting blue fumes right now through my telescope. I can measure that, right? And my little calculator right here sounds a lot like our carbon dating to meet you. Big old space turrets around there. It's nothing special. Oh, man.

I don't know, dude. You can't win with you, dude. I'm going to stay skeptical. I was fine. We need that. I think it was Rick and Morty. You guys know that so funny, bro. And there was one where the aliens came to Earth, but they were dinosaurs.

And they were like, yeah, we were here millions of years ago. But we left. You know, the Earth Explosion. and then we came back and they're like this super like advanced species Oh, that's hilarious. What a funny concept. The T-Rex comes out.

We were here a long time. It's actually our planet. What are you reading over there, Doug? You got any good information for us? I mean, most scientists believe it's a natural comet. Okay. So it's not necessarily agreed upon that it's some type of alien.

Four to five dentists. Of course. That's what they're going to lean on. What scientists wants to claim it's aliens? That would kill their career. Yeah, dude. Yeah. Don't you love it when you were like toothbrush commercials?

Four and a five dentists. Yeah. I wonder who that one dentist. They didn't agree. What a jerk. But they do admit it has anomalies to it too. So that's the thing. It's like they haven't seen a lot of these characteristics.

Now we're not at least the ones I always worry about is when they see this stuff and it's like it's on course to run into us. Yeah. That's not happening. Right. So it's just cruising by. Is you going to cruise by us? Yeah. It's really far away.

It's really far away. Okay. I think it passed us. Yeah. I mean, how many miles do you think they're off when they estimate this stuff? Come on. You're asking me and Justin? Yeah, come on, dude.

17% is the margin of error. I don't just throw out some numbers. I mean, Doug, you can build it. You should really Google that. What's the percentage of air when measuring speeds and distances out in space? It's got to be, you can't tell me we have something like that's like super. I think they could get pretty accurate based off of. Yeah, but you would say that about carbon dating, too,

before, wouldn't you? I'm just making things up. Yeah. You would say that about carbon dating, too, though, wouldn't you? No. Oh, you wouldn't have said that before? No.

Before, yeah. I did a little more ditty. After I said some shit, you guys all laughed at me. They're like, what did that say, Doug? Yeah, so the margin of error for measuring speeds and distances in space varies greatly depending on the methods used

in the distance of the object. Greatly. You know that's bad when they fucking label us greatly. It's like pretty much inaccurate, completely is actually another way saying that. It's within 100 million miles. Yeah. It's like, you know, like 1% accurate.

It's like changes in light. That's like all I have to work with. All right. Since we're on the topic of science, here's some real. Here's some real science. Here's some real science. Empirical science.

I looked up studies on brain. You know that you can find studies on Brain FM itself. They actually have already some studies. Yeah, yeah. So I found some on brain. So people don't know what this is. This is music that's engineered to induce different states of mind,

and they measure this through brain waves. Okay, so you, if they look at your brain wave activity, they can predict if you're focused, if you're asleep, if you're meditating, based off of your brain waves. And what Brain FM has figured out is they can play certain sounds overlaid over certain types of music, and it'll induce those states of mind.

So this is this all fMRI? Like, are they showing this? No, you can, no, you don't need an FMRI for brainwaves. No, but I mean, in the study. No, no, no, no, no. These are like, so here's a deal. Do they have studies that show an actual result? Cool, your brain waves look this way, but what are the studies? So that's what I'm more interested in? Because you, I mean, there's a lot of things right now where they, oh, this is more alpha, this is more beta waves. Yeah, but then what does that end up meaning? Yeah. So, uh, they saw focus enhancement brain waves up 119%. This actually translated into sustained attention. That's great. Uh, they saw people with improved, uh, ADHD symptoms. They engaged, uh, uh, uh, different parts of the brain and they perform better in certain tests. It increased slow wave sleep by 24 to 29%, which is great. So you can measure if you're in deep sleep, if you're in different stages.

It got improved it by 24 to 29%. So, I mean, it's pretty rad. It definitely works. It's very interesting. I can't wait to see more studies on Brain FM. And I predicted to be something that might be used in the future as for things like ADD. Oh, yeah. Yeah, just at least as an option, you know, to that's less impactful.

Instead of giving them. Yeah, so to give me. Have you guys? That'd be great. Yeah. It's maybe. Let's get the kids off meth. Dude, I was talking about my wife yesterday because she was, she was so tired yesterday.

She's like, I'm so exhausted. This sucks. I said, don't you wish they had supplements like they did back in the day for housewives? What are you talking about? Some crystal meth? They used to give them. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Mommy's little helper. You used to buy them. Well, that's what I mean, it's, it's correct. I know you guys are. kind of tongue and cheek, but the fact that that's what, you know, ADD medication is, is it's wild that we give

that. I didn't realize how crazy it was until I got diagnosed as an adult, full disclosure. I got a diagnosed as an adult and I thought it would be cool to try the drugs that are associated with it. And you take them. By the way, I stop taking it. And you haven't

taken it and your kids on it. That's crazy. I got all kinds of backlash when I said that. You guys remember that? I said it on the show and I got all kinds of backlash for people for saying that. I don't you want to know. I mean, that, I didn't until I was what, freaking mid-30s, the first time I ever took an Adderall pill and never went until then. And when I took that thing, I was like, powerful, man. Holy shit. Oh, yeah, dude.

And it was like this small, I think we were like a five or a 10 and I know they give up to like 20 milligrams. I can't believe that. Isn't that crazy? Yes. So it's wild about it. So by the way, because people will say, well, you don't have ADD then. If you take it and you get high or you feel it, that means you don't have ADD. Look, I have an official diagnosis.

I've been tested a couple times. Anybody who knows, people tell you, I have all the symptoms of it. And I took it and I became a problem for me. I actually had to tell my doctor, don't give these to me anymore because of its addictive property. It was leading to other behaviors that weren't great. It's a legit drug, everybody. And I'm like, man, I give kids.

You give this to a kid? Yeah. In fifth grade? Yeah. Oh, no wonder Timmy's finally sitting still and super focused on coloring. Yeah. So was I when I took some of this stuff. You give me a cold. It's hard for me too because I have a front row seat with my godson right now of watching him and just, you know, you have kids, some kids, they need more physical activity and they don't do well with sitting, being still and being quiet issue.

Yeah. And then we have so many things today with technology and stuff like that and video games, it just exacerbates all of them. So you take a kid like that who's already kind of wired to be the, you know, rambunctious, athletic. like, you know, needs to throw the ball, needs to sprint, needs to do that things. You confine him into a little classroom or when he's home, you plug him into a video game and it's just like their brains going a million months. And you do that for... You actually start to

train this behavior. Yes. Then you do it for a year. Then two years, then three years. And now the kid's seven years old with three years of his life like that. And then now they're like, hey, he's borderline ADHD. And it's like, you know, okay, well, maybe if some of these things weren't happening, or maybe if the education

system was different for him, maybe we wouldn't be dealing with this whatsoever. Or maybe it's not even that big of a problem with him right now. And it just sucks that he gets categorized as like this, this kid who needs, has these behavioral issues. And then the way they try and handle it in school is terrible. It's like,

they isolate them. It's like, oh, you know, you're disrupting all the other kids. So let's put you over here in the corner by yourself. It's like, oh my God.

Like, oh, dude. It's so, I mean, go, we can't figure out like a physical outlet. You know,

if that's the issue and like you understand that, like, characteristics in some kids like that. have that. It's like, can we provide like some sort of solution? Yeah, I'm not going to look, I'm not going to say there aren't cases where medical intervention might be

really helpful. So I'm not going to say that. But when you look at the percentage of children prescribed these medications, you can't tell me they're not over-prescribing. You can't tell me it's not an over-prescription. Look, any, here's the thing, pick any, and this is, I know this is pissing

people off. It's the pharmaceutical MO. And I know why some people are mad right now because if you're a parent and you feel guilty and you're struggling and you're working hard and you oh my god me and my wife both work and we're kid is you know this is really tough and we don't have the time like i get it i totally get it it it's it's challenging but if you look at all the medications if we took a list of all the medications with addictive potential and there's a few of them there's quite a few of them all of those you'll notice are overprescribed every single one pain medications overprescribed stimulants overprescribed you see uh an zy a lillism Overprescribed because we like them.

We love them. And they produce the effect that we're looking for. They're for profit. They're for profit. I mean, it's driven that way. Yeah, I know. Look at these ads,

by the way, Doug, these are great. This is an old one? There's like a kitchen one that's hilarious. Like, more pep in your stay.

You're filling down when you're doing the dishes, have some more pep in your seat. Now she can cook breakfast again. Is that what it says? Oh, my God. Methodrine. How condescending and sex is, dude. Methodrine.

Mordidine. How far off is that from what Adderall is? Oh, good question. Doug, look up methadrine with the chem. I think it was legit emphetamine. I think it was like just straight amphetamine. It's straight. Yeah.

Because I wouldn't be surprised if it's that far off. No, I know that Adderall crystal methadry. Is a version or a type of amphetamine, but it's not a straight. What does that say? Let me just see what they, the, the notes stay here. It's so crazy. There are two fundamentally

different classes of drugs with opposing effects on the body. Oh, interesting. Well, no, methadone. You looked up methadone? Well, okay. It must have done a spell check on it. Yeah, dude.

It's not methadone. No, I get that. Not methadone. Yeah. That's why those were two tools. What was methadrine? What was methadrine? What was methadrine?

That's the brand name by the way. Yeah, I was going to say, that's not going to tell you what it really. Methadrine is what it is the, like, like Vicodin, right? It's like... It's like the brand name. Yeah.

But I'm pretty sure it was just a Fedra. Not a Fedra. Yeah, right there. Methamphetamine. Right there. Methamphetamine. So, yeah, now I'll compare that to Adderall. Because that's what Adderall is derived from that.

Correct. So they're probably very... Methamphetamine versus Adderall. Let's look that up. Because Adderall is just the brand also. It is. I forgot what the chemical name is, but it's a type of methamphetamine. Wow.

Wow. It was just straight meth. They were given housewives. Wow. Damn. That's why they got a lot done back then. How are they able to do all that? You're so in trouble today.

Man, mom did a lot of things. How was she able to do that? Hey, while he's looking this up, how are you like in Scott Donald's course? Great. So cool, right? It's great, dude. It's so good.

What takeaways? What takeaways did you get from it so far? Oh, I mean, I like to think that. So there's a, what's the wheel called? Oh, I just remember. So they have a really cool thing that you do after you intern in the course. that you rate yourself and it's broken up in four quarters of the years

there's a year-long thing that we're going through and the first one is courage, right? Is that we're working on? And then within courage, there's like a four quadrants of like things to teach you to your kid and there's like core value, family values, there's finance stuff, there's technology, and then there's one other one that I'm missing.

And then the idea is when you start this, to be very honest with yourself. And they give you examples of like what it. And all this is, so Scott has created this course from over 10,000 families that they've done research on of some of the most super successful families out there. And super successful is not just financially successful, but their kids have gone on to do things great beyond the parents.

Healthy, they're well-adjusted. Yeah, good relationships, like all the things, right? So, and so you score yourself. And you do it separate. Katrina did it and I did it separately. So we didn't see each other's answers for how we were scoring ourselves. I thought we would be really different. I just,

I can be hypercritical. She's more positive, you know, and empathetic and she's more, you know, like, and she's always the one that calms me down. But actually,

I was blown away by how, how closely accurate we both were. One of the big takeaways for me was the graph. And on one end, you had edification and then the other one was expectation. So high expectations, with high edification. Edification is like encouragement,

positivity, expectations are just like what it sounds. When you're good at both of those, you're an effective coach or an effective parent or an effective leader. When one is good and the other one isn't good, you have problems. Deficit.

Yeah, so if it's like really high expectations with terrible edification, you're just a drill sergeant. If you live that environment, manage it of fear. You can't wait to get out of there. It's like mom and dad have high expectations. There's no encouraging.

And a lot of times that might, I love the way that he described this too. That might create a kid who has a lot of success, but they never come home. They're never come home and they're anxious and stressed under the surface. They look like they got all put together. Right. But they hate you.

They hate life. They're just success oriented. Yeah. The other one was only edification with no expectation, in which case you kind of become a... Pleaser. Like a caretie. Yeah, your kid becomes just a...

Like, they don't really achieve anything. They don't push themselves. Everything's within their comfort zone. So what'd you find there, Doug? So Adderall is related to... meth. One's amphetamine? One's methamphetamine.

Exactly. So the Adderall is less potent, if you will. Right. So they were giving them the strong stuff back then. Wow. So even stronger.

Oh my God. Even stronger. Woo. Yeah. We're a good time. Yeah. That's good time, bro. That's when Coke,

original formula Coca-Cola was out too, right? Right? Is that opium den still thing back then? No, that was way before that. That's wild, you know? That's wild. You know?

That is crazy. To think that we're so much smarter now and different is like, no. No or not. We're still playing We're playing the same game. Same again.

Just watered down. No, Hunter. Hunter, it's so similar. It's like we just name it different. We market it different. We were just, we were more ignorant about how we marketed it back then. We're now it's like, oh, we'd be a little more clever about the way we present this now. Same shit, though.

Anyway, I want to talk about our partner Jouve at the Red Life Therapy. More real science? No. Well, I mean, it works. It's great. The thing about real red light therapy is it's more expensive than the crap you find online. It's just a fact. But they're having crazy.

Black Friday deal. So that's what I want to mention. Oh, they are? Yeah. So if you want, like the red light that they use in studies, not the red light that you buy on Amazon that's got like one tenth of the. Now's the time to buy. Yeah, they have the Black Friday deal.

So if you've been hearing us talk about red light therapy, now is the time, you know, to go get that kind of stuff. Anyways, I want to talk, go back to AI a little bit. I was talking to, who was I talking to? I was talking to somebody that's got some experience with AI. And they also work in the field of, therapy. And they were talking about how the AI in this regard is just a just a validation machine. That's what it does. It just validates, validates, validates. And there was just this really crazy,

somebody did, they posed a question to chat GBT, just to show how ridiculous it was, with this validation. And the question was, is this coming from a husband? So the husband says, you know, I work real hard all day long. I come home. I just want to relax. My wife wants me to help out and I'm just tired and then Athena and I don't want to have sex with me. And the in the chat GBT's like, well, you deserve affection and you work really hard and you know, she shouldn't ask you to help or whatever. And you should see the comments underneath. I'm just like, what is going on here? Yeah. It was just validate, validate, validate. I mean, I told you guys, and I think I mentioned it on air. It doesn't challenge you. When I have, well, it's also the way you

prompted directly impacts the answer you get. And so you could be seeking like, okay, so I shared just with the audience, I believe. I know for sure I talked to you guys about it. My brother-in-law was looking up stuff related to testosterone. And the way he prompted it was encouraging the chat you need to give it all, give you all the negative, all the negative things of using testosterone. So he gets this feedback of like taking testosterone does all these bad things. I'm like, well, yeah, but if you flip that question and go like, well, what are all the adverse

and negative things for having low testosterone? own. It would give you... You wouldn't know what to ask, right? Exactly. So that's the part where I go, man, this is going to be, like, it's going to be interesting to see as this generation coming up becomes very dependent on this tool. That is incredible because, I mean, don't get me wrong, I use it all time. It's very valuable for a lot of different things. But I have already now come across a few situations where my experience tells me otherwise because of what we do that, oh, wait, that's not good answer to that. And only because of my experience. Otherwise, I could see where someone would get that prompt and go like, this is the truth. Therefore, I'm going to go do the X, Y, and Z. But

because the way he prompted it, it completely shifts the way it's going to answer you. So, yeah, there's going to be, it's going to be interesting to see what that, what shakes out from that. Because it's not this, it's not so clear where it's like, it's always the best answer. To your point that you're making too with the validation. I saw this clip with Jordan Peterson where he said, if you guys think, because he was talking about this subject, then he veered into a different subject but related. He said, if you guys think pornography is an issue now, he goes, you just wait till you have a very attractive young woman talking to you,

developing a relationship with you on the other end, seems real, it's great, and then just for $15 a month, she'll take her clothes off. And he goes, and this for a lot of people, will be the best friend they ever had. He goes, you just wait till you see what this produces. And that right there is, I think, crazy danger. Yeah, it's already happening. Where we're just going to isolate our, not we, but a lot of people may just isolate themselves

because it's the best friend there. Well, there's no reason why to believe otherwise considering that's already happening. We don't even have that yet. I mean, just the introduction of Facebook and social media and video gaming going their directions going. It's just we've all become super isolated. All the research and data points to that.

And it hasn't even got that sophisticated. When it gets that sophisticated, it's going to make it that much easier to do that. So it's going to, I don't know, it's going to, it's going to cause the thing that I've been calling since for a long time on this podcast. What's unclear to me is what that person, yes, is that percentage. It's clear to me, we are in the very near future, meaning I think in the less than five years, we'll have a major movement of unplugged versus plugged. And what I don't know is how big that unplugged movement will be. Obviously, there's already people already trying to do stuff like that.

But I mean to where it becomes like a real movement where it's talked about a lot and even mainstream. It'll be interesting to see if it's how close to half it is. I don't think it will be half, but. I got to tell you guys about this guilty pleasure that I found. Speaking of social media, there's a whole category of pages. And I didn't know this, but I clicked on one. Now my algorithm's showing me more. These are people that blow things up.

Yeah. They take, you've seen them. Yeah, I've watched that, bro. They're great. First of all, where do these people live? Because they're just doing it themselves. Yeah. What state are you?

Nevada. Is it like big stuff? Bro, this guy is like, okay, I got this tree. He's in the middle of this like desert area. He goes, I need some firewood. We're going to see how many sticks of dynamite it takes to blow up this tree. He's like, one stick of dynamite. And then he goes eight sticks of dynamite and he blows it up.

And I'm just like, this is amazing. So I got a funny story since you brought this up. Okay, do you guys use your next door app at all next door? No. Where all your neighbors all. Oh, yeah. Two gossipy. Yeah.

It's very gossip. Drama Central. Yeah, I mean. Yeah, it's definitely that for sure. So we'll use it for something like this. So Katrina and I are laying in bed like two nights ago. Because I'm trying to pick up. Take some of the heat off of me for a little bit.

What did you say, Justin? I was emulating a Karen voice. Okay. Oh, yeah, okay. So Katrina and I are laying in bed. It's like, I want to say it's like 10, 30 or 11 o'clock at night, somewhere around that time. and this loud explosion, boom, goes off. And both her and her kind of start a little bit.

And I'm like, that was weird. And then Katrina gets on the next door app and just maybe someone else talked about or saw it. And she's like, oh, my God, this is an ongoing thing almost every night at 1030 and nobody can figure out what it is. And so since then, now I hear it every night. Oh, that guy's a legend. Whoever's doing around 10? Yeah, he's totally like messing with the entire neighborhood right now because nobody can, there's a whole. whole thread dedicated to the explosion that happens at 10.30 at night, like every night,

like clockwork. And nobody knows where it's coming from or what it is, but it happens every night. If I had access to any, we live in California. So getting any kind of fireworks or, you know, it was hard. You had to like smuggle. It was like, you're not going to get crazy. But there's some states, man, where you could get some. Oh, yeah. I would have been in trouble with it. I know the neighbors that'll, like, pop off sometimes into the forest. And I'm like, I know this guy's shooting outside right now. Like, like, one time I tried to, like, confront because, like, my kids were jumping on a trampoline. Like shooting, like, shooting into, like, oh, God. Yeah, into, and I'm like, so I actually went down there one time, uh, may or may not have had my own.

Oh, God. Justin, what are you doing, bro? I'm just saying, dude, it was like, like, what are you doing, dude? Like, there's kids jumping and there's like, so anyways, he stopped. But, uh, yeah, it was, it was like, dude, who does that? Who just shoots off into, like, the forest? People that live out in Santa Cruz Hills. Yeah.

He'll be a lot more. He'll be careful what you run into. Yeah. Do you guys hear about that guy? He dressed up like a, like hunting season. He put on a deer outfit. Oh, man. He got shot, dude.

No, he did it. Yeah, he did. No, he did it. Yeah, this is an old story. Why would you do that? I think he thought it would be fun. I mean, I could kind of see why it's funny, but of course. That is not funny.

That's like really stupid. Somebody shot. And he's, I'm assuming he's out where there's, oh yeah, that's really stupid. Yeah, yeah. But these explosion pages,

I got to tell you guys, if you ever want to waste time. Okay. He blows up, he blows up, he blows up old cars. I wonder if it's the same guy, because I've seen one where there's,

like, a hole in the ground, and it was like, it was like an angle like this. And so he took this, like metal bowl and put it, like, so he put,

like, an explosive in it, and then put the metal bowl on top of the Iran. And then it just, it just, it shows. like, oh my God, it's so far. It's even worse than I thought. It was a trans-species

man who identifies as a deer. That's not real. That's satire. That's like the onion. That's satire. That's not a big, oh, my God. You see what he looked like? Yes, dude. That's peak right there. It was a hunter who's like, that's a dude.

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What are some tips for feeling the rear delts? I watch the mind pump videos and end up feeling it in my side delts. I'm not sure if I need to round my back more and or pull my shoulders back while rounding. Here's a good tip. Rewind this episode. I got three for you in there. Scroll back. Remind doesn't exist anymore, right?

That's right. Okay, so here's a tip that I'll tell people with rear delts. It's not a row. So don't think of pulling the dumbbells up or rather separate. Fly out. That's my cue. Separate the dumbbells. Bring them out, and that'll give you more rear delt,

because a lot of times it turns into kind of this. You know, your scapeer, you know, squeezing. Yeah, with Justin. I would say that's probably the most difficult part for people doing rear delts is not getting your back to overtake that. It's difficult to do that because the rear delt is smaller than those big back muscles, and because you are pulling back, the back tends to do that, but that's why you've got to fly out instead of back.

Suggestion would be to start with a really lightweight and do like an isometric hold at the, at the stretch position and at the end, like if we were doing the, cable flies that I talked about, go really light and slow and pause at the end. And that little isometric hold at the end of the exercise

is going to help you get better connected and practice that until you get really good at feeling it in the rear dealt. Then once you have good connection there, then you can start to really load that and roll it. But if you go right to ripping it really early and you don't have good connection,

then the back muscles are going to take over. And some exercises just don't, Thank you, Justin. They just don't lend themselves well to heavy weight. And a rear-delts fly turns very quickly into a row when the weight is heavy. Especially a rear-dell fly. Look, if I wanted it, I could go real heavy, right? But I almost never go heavier than, let's say, 20 pounds.

Because if it feels light, I just make the form feel better. That's all I do. And I get more rear-down. Next question is from Super Bella 7-1-1. How can I get stronger with squats? I'm squatting every week, but I, just don't seem to make any progress. Although the reps are heavy and exhausting, I don't really feel my legs. Also, my mind prevents me from lifting heavier weights for fear that I can't get up from the

squat. This is funny that these questions are aligned with what we talked about. I know, right? At the very beginning of our tips. I didn't even plan that. It was yesterday. Okay, so let's start here. So it could be diet. And I'm assuming this is a woman because of the name and also because of the fear of lifting heavier weight for not getting up. Typically my female clients would have that fear, and I push them heavier than they thought they could go, and it was just a fear thing. But there's one or two things.

It's either A, you're not eating enough or not enough protein. B, your programming sucks. So if you're following a MAPS program, good job. If you're not, get a MAPS program. They're 60% off right now. You need to get it. Black Friday code will give you 60% off any of our programs. Maps Anabolic is a great program to boost your squat.

So is MAPS power. lift if you're more advanced. And then lastly, you know, the heavier weight thing, if you use safeties or practice dropping the bar, you'll get over the fear of lifting heavy. A squat is actually, if you know how to dump the bar, which is, it's not hard, you guys. It feels like it's hard, but really practice with the lightweight. Get to the bottom and just let it go back. Push it back.

Or use safeties. Once you practice that, then you can push yourself because it is scary, right? What happens if I can't get up and, you know, I'm going to hurt myself? it's not like a bench press. You won't get pinned under the bar. So practice those things and challenge yourself with your weight. I mean, and again, just to put the cherry on top with the dumping the bar, when I'm squating a heavy squat, if I had a client, unless they're lifting something light enough that I could lift myself with my hands, if I'm squatting a client that's, you know, if I'm training a client that's squatting a weight that's really heavy, I have them dump the bar if they can't get it up. I don't help them lift it up. That's a great way for them to hurt themselves. It's like, I would back up and I'd either use safeties or have them dump the bar. Well, and go through a phase of tempo squats and pause squats and really like hone in on that

isometric contraction, that recruitment part of it. If you're not feeling like you're getting any leg involvement, if there's a way to really enhance that by, you know, targeting and isolating that. So, yeah, lifting heavy and going through the reps is one thing. But then, you know, actually being able to recruit a lot more muscle fibers into that lift, especially at the deepest part of that squat is really going to make a massive difference. Also give yourself the permission

to do singles, doubles, or triples. Yeah. Most programming, including ours, is like five reps and above. And when I had a female client that would be like, I'm afraid to put more on the weight at him because that weight right there

is really hard for me to get five and I don't know if I could do any more weight. So it's like, so what, let's get three. So let's agree. Let's put 10 more pounds on or 20 more pounds on and let's try and get five. but if you feel like you can't get five and you only got three, stop a three. And do that for a while and watch how strong you get doing sets of three.

And so this works really well sometimes with my clients getting over the mental hurdle of putting on more weight because they're always thinking in the realm of they got to get five reps. And in that last time I did that, you know, 135, it was hard to get five reps. And so I'm afraid to go to one 45, do three or two. And nothing wrong with that. And watch how strong you get from doing singles, doubles, or triples. I think that's a great piece of advice if you've never done that. Next question is from MLMXO.

As a dental hygienist, how can I be ergonomically preventative in my career to protect my wrists, shoulders, and neck? Do risk cars? Do your mobility in between every patient. So in between every patient, five minutes of mobility, one or two mobility movements. To counter the position. From Prime Pro, we'll make all the difference in the world. clients that did work like this.

I worked with hairdressers who also suffer from some of the stuff. Even like engineers people on the computer all day. Yeah. And you know, you could change your technique but as a dental hygienist like there's certain positions you have to get into. So in between your, when you have a patient, you're

doing your work after you're done. Spend literally five minutes doing one or two mobility movements. Prime Pro has a lot of great ones in there for the areas that you talked about. You know, shoulder and wrist. and then move on to the next patient. And just doing that several times a day

typically does the trick and it makes a big difference. Next question is from good juju gains. What's the number one thing this career has taught you about yourself? Oh, God. Number one thing? About myself?

Yeah, one thing. Oh, gosh. Yeah. I mean, it's taught me the things that I'm not good at and the things that I'm good at. And what happens when I focus on the things that I'm good at and work on being great at it versus dwelling on the things that I'm not so good at.

So that there's a lot of things that fall into that category. But I think training people, even being on this podcast has continued to highlight my strengths and my weaknesses. And I've said many times on this show before that the single best advice someone ever gave me was, you know, don't worry about the things that you're not. very good at. Focus on the things that you're good at and be great. And that has served me so much in life. And I think that there's a, there's a bit of a skill to that. I actually think that it's, we're taught to look at what we're not good at and look at what we're, and fix it and work on it.

And it's like, I really kind of release that. Let go. I let go of that. Outsource it, invest when somebody else in it. Many times when someone else would think that's crazy, like there's times when I've been building before even this business and other business where I wasn't even making that much money, but I know that I was finding myself doing things within the business that I knew that I wasn't good at. And, but I still needed that money. It's like, I would sacrifice the money, live even lower below my means to outsource that to somebody else. So I can really focus on the things that I was good at within the business. And that always served me long term. And the initial, that's scary to do that. And it's like, oh, my God, I need all that. It's like,

yeah, but this is holding me back. I'm working on this crap that I'm not good at it. I don't like. I'm so better off being focused on the things I'm good at. So that's the first thing that comes in mind for me. Yeah, I mean, it definitely revolves around getting better through reps and that being getting stronger or just be more comfortable, be more confident. All of it takes reps.

And it takes that exposure and that courage to step out and start a, attempting it and then knowing you're going to suck at it and then just everyday chipping away at it and getting better and knowing that you will get better if you just keep consistently focusing on that thing and chipping away at it. And it's, again, it's this is like a moving target too. That's, I guess, the biggest thing that I've found from this career is right when you get strong at something, you realize you're deficient in something else. And then you just move that attention over there and you just start chipping away at that and the overall benefits. The more you keep doing that and you realize and you can see it before it's problematic

and you can bring attention to it and start putting reps in that category, it just, it makes you better overall. By the way, I think that the reason why most people fail that something like this is just they're not willing to do the sheer amount of volume it takes to get good at it. I think so many people quit before it turns. I think we have this. And I think that's more apparent today than it's ever been with things that come to us so fast, this instant gratification.

And ever at least I know in your, I think we've all agreed this like anything and everything that I've ever been good at, it took me a really long time. Long time. And a lot of practice. Longer than you think. And a lot. Exactly.

Whatever I thought it was going to take. longer than that and I sucked at it for a really long time, but I had this willingness and determination to get good at it no matter how long and how hard it took. And I think that's where most people go wrong is they expect it to be easier, sooner or better at it sooner. And they're just not in it for the long haul. And I think that's a bit of a superpower. You have that. I think everybody in this room, that's one of the things we share in common is that ability to just put your head down and put the reps. It's a very unique, and this is referring to this, right? What we do here, right?

Not when we were trainers. It's unique because we have all these conversations that get recorded. You can hear yourself later, which is, first off, if anybody's ever listened to their own voice recorded, everybody gets that like, oh, that's what I sound like. Yeah. Yeah. So that's, by the way, that's like 1%. Now imagine you say a lot of words, a lot of things, and you're going to say a lot of stupid things. And you hear yourself later and now.

in an episode that was recorded or you get feedback and the feedback initially might make you feel defensive. Not to say that you need to listen to everybody. But if you hear a bunch of people saying something similar and then you got to be like, well, am I actually, am I actually sounding that way? Am I actually, am I really helping people? So it's like, it's hard not to do this and grow. I think if you don't, this is going to, this would suck, right?

It would suck to not, you'd be so defensive all the time. But it's interesting, like listening to yourself talk over and over again, you can hear things that you didn't hear when you were saying it the first time. Like, oh, that sounded arrogant or, wow, I really wasn't open-minded in that statement. Or I actually didn't help anybody by saying it that way. I just sounded like I was angry. Humbles you and it makes you a little more empathetic too. It does. And way more self-aware than you.

Like I would have thought coming into this that I was a self-aware person. but to your point about, yeah, but where else have I ever been able to like hear back? Yeah. You know, hour long talks that I've had or long, like, you just don't get to do that. And that is, it's like, talk about a direct mirror every day in your face about, it makes you really question your own beliefs and stances and thoughts on a lot of things at a level that I don't think I've ever experienced. And so although coming into this, I would have considered myself a self-aware person,

the level of self-awareness and humility that comes with recording it on air and then putting it out for millions of people to listen to and, uh, and critique. Well, one thing that I learned, uh, I didn't necessarily, this wasn't like a shocking thing, but it became more and more evident to me was that, uh, I, I'm definitely very purpose driven. And I think I would have said that early on too. Uh, but I, now, now I really see how purpose driven I am. How much that motivates and drives me and brings me joy versus, let's say, success monetarily or, you know, even success with, you know, getting attention. It's like if I feel like what I'm doing is something I believe in, and for me, that means I'm helping, I'm actually helping

people. And that's so important for me that I'll give up everything for that thing right there. And thankfully, praise God, it's actually brought the success. So the success actually has followed it. But if I don't feel that purpose behind what I'm doing, like, it just feels dead. And you can pay me as much money as you want. It just doesn't feel. It doesn't feel right. And I think we've learned that many times through what we've done. So, look, if you like

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