Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 2758: The MOST Important Factor to Focus on that Changes Everything Else

Episode Date: December 26, 2025

In this episode of Quah (Q & A), Sal, Adam & Justin answer four Pump Head questions drawn from last Sunday's Quah post on the @mindpumpmedia Instagram page. Mind Pump Fit Tip: The MOST Important Factor to Focus on that Changes Everything Else. (1:54) Boosting your creativity and focus with science-backed music. (20:25) Doing a better job of reconnecting with family. (21:32) Pro or anti-sleepover's. (28:32) Kids say and do the darndest things. (37:37) Let's talk about farts. (38:18) What's up with the fog in California?! (46:59) Immoral marketing behavior. (51:32) The Shawn Ryan/Dan Crenshaw beef. (57:33) #Quah question #1 – I know that walking after eating has a lot of upsides. Does pace matter or is it just about the movement & being active? (1:00:02) #Quah question #2 – Is CrossFit doing more harm than good for those folks who are looking for quick weight loss results? (1:02:00) #Quah question #3 – What rules do you usually abide by during the Christmas holidays? 80/20? Do you recommend staying strict to a nutrition plan all the time? How many days can you eat cheat meals over the holidays without taking multiple steps back in your fitness journey? (1:03:58) #Quah question #4 – What is your best advice for creating better discipline and consistency? (1:07:28) Related Links/Products Mentioned Visit Eight Sleep for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump Listeners! ** Code MINDPUMP for up to $400 off the Pod 5 Ultra. The best part is that you still get 30 days to try it at home and return it if you don't like it – – Shipping to many countries worldwide. ** Visit Brain.fm for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners. ** Get 30 days of free access to science-backed music. ** MAPS 15 Powerlift 50% half from Dec. 21-27th. Code DECEMBER50 at checkout. Mind Pump Store Associations between daily physical activity timing and sleep efficiency revealed by explainable machine learning Mind Pump #2518: Five Tips for Amazing Sleep (Listener Coaching) Mind Pump #2742: Can Music Make You Smarter? The Science Behind Brain-Boosting Sound Sniffing your own farts boosts brain power: study | New York Post Operation Sea-Spray - Wikipedia Dan Crenshaw vs Shawn Ryan Intensifies as Congressman 'Threatens Legal Action' Mind Pump #2402: The 5 Reasons Why Walking is King for Fat Loss (Burn More Fat than Running & How to Do it Correctly) Mind Pump # 2737: The ULTIMATE GAINZGIVING (Stay on Track Through The Holidays) | Mind Pump 2737 Mind Pump Podcast – YouTube Mind Pump Free Resources People Mentioned Dr. John Delony (@johndelony) Instagram Shawn Ryan Show (@shawnryanshow) Instagram Dan Crenshaw (@dancrenshawtx) Instagram  

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What's one thing you can change that affects everything else in a positive way when it comes to fat loss, muscle gain, fitness and health? This is a big one, everybody, and the data now supports it. We're going to reveal to you the first domino. Let's get to it. You guys want to guess what this is, by the way? The one thing that makes everything else better. It's the thing that every time we have to talk about it, makes me feel like I'm getting old.

I know you got it. Yeah, just, I like, this is a conversation I find myself having more and more, not just with myself, with friends. Like, when they ask what the things they should focus on, it's like, go fix your sleep first. And then the rest of the stuff. Dude, they just, they just did a big study where, and these were, this study was based off trackers.

So these were people who had devices on in their mattress or on their wrist. And they could really see what was going on. So they could see people's activity levels. and they could also see how much they slept, like how much they actually were asleep. Yeah. And sleep had a positive effect on activity. Activity did not have that big of a positive effect on sleep,

at least not in comparison to what sleep did. In other words, when these people got good, healthy sleep, they walked on average or moved on average significantly more from the sleep. Whereas if they tried to do the activity first, There was a little bit of a improvement in sleep, but it wasn't nearly as much. Now, there's other data that shows its effect, sleep's effect on eating habits. And this is also profound.

When people eat, when people get poor sleep, the speed at which they eat goes up. So in other words, they feed themselves faster. And the types of foods that they seek out are in the category of hyper-pallitability. So you tend to see more sugar. You tend to see more processed foods. And you tend to see a higher consumption overall of calories. So here's what's interesting about this is that if I were to, health is dysfunctional in modern societies. We know this.

But if I were to say, what's the thing that has suffered the most in just the last 20 years? Sleep? Yeah. Sleep. And before that, by the way, with the invention of electricity. for a lot of different reasons, right? Wouldn't you say? I mean, it's not just like, there's a lot of things that we do.

We're busier than we've ever been. Yeah. Okay. So we're distracted a lot. So I think we're less present today than we've ever been. I'm sure that plays a huge factor. We've got, we don't no longer have the 36 inch boob tube in the living room that, you know, only has four channels on it anymore.

We've got a plasma TV on every single person's, most people's, you know, rooms in almost every house. Street lights are completely different now. They're super bright. And, you know, the light pollution is everywhere. So it's like you can't really, it tricks your body to think that like you're still running in daytime. We're addicted to our phones. They become a limb, right?

Another limb. It's so hard to just to put it away from you that you're on it until the, until you fall asleep in bed, probably. I don't know what the, be interesting to see that's that. I love to see how many people. fall asleep to their phone? Yes. Huge percentage. Huge.

I would bet. I think a huge percentage. That's horrible. I think back to when we were kids. So when we were kids in the 80s, early 90s, after that we got cables a little different, but it was, there wasn't a TV in every bedroom. No. Okay. Didn't start happening until like the 90s, right, to like the mid to late 90s where everybody had a TV.

But TV was in the living room and it wasn't a lot of channels. No. And at night, there was nothing on. No, you watched before dinner. That was kind of like, at least in our house, it was like, we watch shows. That's right. Before dinner. And then we sat and had dinner as a family.

And then that was, the TV was pretty much over. There's nothing on at eight, nine o'clock at night. It was like post school, right? Three, four, five, six, kind of seven, maybe it was like the latest show or whatever. Yes. Eight o'clock, there's no TV going on. No, nothing was on. News.

There was nothing on. And there was nothing to do. There was, in fact, if I, when I was a kid, The reason why I stayed up late was if I had something to do. If my cousins were over or the first time I got a gaming console, you better believe I stayed up late. But before that, like I had comic books or magazines, which, you know, by the way, reading a book before bed will put you to sleep.

This is a fact because even if it's engrossing, it's just a book. It's not a light shining in your face and in your eyes, totally different. So it was very different. But now there's always a reason to stay up. there's always a reason to stay up and you have infinite entertainment infinite ways to catch your attention billions and billions of dollars

is spent on ways to capture your attention to the point where you have to consciously put your phone like I better get some sleep let me put this down versus the way it used to be which was I'm sleepy I'm just going to sleep so it's changed a lot and when you look at the data this is really wild

and I know it sounds crazy it's a health and fitness podcast we're trying to get some sleep. Here's why this is so powerful. When you're good and consistent with your sleep, what the data is showing is that it positively affects your activity and your diet. Yeah. Now, activity and diet also positively affects sleep. So they all communicate to each other.

They do, but not to the degree. That's right. And that's the thing. I think we've been sold that a lot more and we haven't been, we're not under the understanding of how powerful of a regeneration tool, like sleep is like it literally is there for healing aspects for um you know producing new cells like it everything happens when you're sleeping to uh improve your body so it's like we're trying to mathematically get get better movement to uh somehow add in some of these benefits but we're not doing

the biggest thing you could possibly do is just get more sleep because we think doing more and being productive is such the highest attribute to achieve. Doug, you obsessed over your score. I know you do. We talk a little bit about this, especially my last like 45 days. It's probably the most I've ever obsessed

over my sleep score. And I've connected a lot of interesting dots during that time. Do you know, like, one, I'd like to hear from you, like, what's a horrible score for you? I saw you, you hit 90s. I don't even know what 90s. So what's a perfect score 100? Yeah. Probably. I don't know. I've never seen. I've never had. I've never even had 90. So I thought 88 was the highest I've ever seen that I've ever been able to do. What's low for you? What's high for you? And have you,

have you been able to connect dots and stuff? I've been just transparency for the audience. Obviously, I've been sharing my story. I've seen as low as 20, which I bet you have not. No. And everything between 20 all the way to 80 during this process. And there's a lot of things that I've noticed, especially when you run back-to-back days that are not good. Huge difference. So have you? So, yeah. So when I first started tracking, I was hitting in the 70s a lot.

Okay. A bad night sleep would be down in the 60s. Okay. Maybe even high 50s would be like a really bad night's sleep. So that's pretty bad. Yeah, pretty bad. But over time, I've worked on my sleep a lot. And lately, I'm routinely hitting in the 80s.

Wow. Yeah. So this has been a massive change for me. Was it that supplement you added? What's it called? Well, so I've added DIP. No. Oh, uh, apigenin.

Epigenin. I've done, so I do a little supplement stack every night. It includes, um, magnesium is what theanine, zinc. Okay. Apogenin and glycine. That's right. That's right. Apogenin is what is one of the compounds in chamomel.

Oh, I drink chamomel every night. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Yeah. It makes a difference for something. So, so we're probably pretty close to the things we're taking because I'm taking, I'm taking mellow, then I have my chamomile. Mm-hmm.

And then other things, I have blackout shades in my room. Yeah. So I have like almost 100% darkness in the room. When you turn up your electronics? Oh, you know, oftentimes, like 30 to 60 minutes before bed. Do you notice a difference when you go? Yes, I do. Yeah.

If I happen to get caught up in something right before bed, it will affect my sleep. Yeah. Yeah. And then, of course, I have the eight sleep. And that makes a massive difference. you know, body temperature. You know, I think one of the things I associate with the eight sleep is my heart rate drops low at night. And heart rate is so important when it comes to sleep.

So if you have like alcohol or you eat too late, your heart rate will go up. Even I discovered doing sauna late in the day would raise my heart rate. And so keeping my heart rate low at night is so important. And the eight sleep because it's cool, you're kind of going into almost a hibernating type state, I feel. when you get cool like that. You're on ice, if you will. I would argue, of all the things that I do, I would argue that eight sleep is the most impactful for me.

By far. Because if I'm slightly warm, like it, it'll throw me off and I have to wake up. So keeping me cool in that bed. So here's the thing, too, is that, yes, the data shows being cool in bed. But eight sleep monitors your sleep and adjust it to the individual. To you, yeah. And it'll warm it up, cool it down, depending on how you're doing. So by far, it's the best tool.

Do you know we got one for Max's bed? Oh, yeah, yeah. This was like a, this is a little family debate that we were having because Max gets up in the middle of night almost routinely like at one or two. And the only times he doesn't do this is like when it's just a daddy day and he and I have him. And when I have him, I freeze the house. I mean, I let the house get down in the 50s. Kids always sleep better. And he is just a little, you know, but and he gets hotter than I do.

When we're up in the, the up in truck. he'll kick the sheets off and I'm cold. And so I try and I kind of tell Katrina, I'm like, he runs hotter than me. So if you think my side of the bed is freezing and you go put our son in a regular bed with a comforter on and stuff like that and you wonder why he strips down to nothing

and he kicks the sheets off like it's disrupting his sleep. And so I finally got an eight sleep for him. And I'm still working on her letting me go colder than what it is. He's not running as cold as me. And I'm like, he runs hotter. But what I notice, when she's not here

and I have control of this, And I put it freezing cold. He will stay under the covers and he'll stay sleep all night long. If he does it, he kicks off around one, two in the morning. And he doesn't complain he's hot. It's just he does it. He wakes up. And now he's up.

And then he comes over and runs in our room or whatever. Well, it's one of the things that wakes you up is increasing temperature. In fact, eight sleep will wake you up like that. It'll warm you up. Yeah. If you want to wake up. Yeah. It's kind of cool how they have that.

Yeah. So here's the thing. Here's what people, I think, because there's a lot of things you could do to improve your sleep. Okay. So, you know, we talked about a device eight sleep, but just outside of that, you know, make sure your room is black and you're cool and don't eat, you know, a couple hours before bed, don't use electronics an hour before bed or use blue light blocking glasses. Like these all make a difference. But the thing that makes the biggest difference that I'm finding by far is a planet. So you plan, you have a routine that happens before bed.

Set yourself up for sleep. don't just expect you're just going to go jump in bed and then get good sleep because it doesn't work like that anymore. Your brain doesn't shut off immediately. It takes a minute for that to happen. So set yourself up. So if I know I need to be in bed by 10, by 9, I'm preparing. So what does that look like? Turning the lights down.

You know, I'm not eating. Like do all that. So that's number one. Number two, go to bed and wake up the same time every day. That's a huge. That makes a huge difference for people. the average person's bedtime and wake time changes every week. And it typically looks like the same Monday through Thursday, Friday and Saturday, it's three hours later.

And then they try to sleep in and they're jet lag by Monday. And it takes until Tuesday or Wednesday to readjust. So you're literally making your circadian rhythm go crazy every week. That has profound negative. You know, it's so interesting that this is the conversation that you went toward. today because this is last night Katrina and I are in our bed and one of the discussions that we're having right now is we're trying to improve

my sleep right and I'm asking for her help because I don't want to have to take all this stuff you know what I'm saying it's like my goal is that not have to take this stack of supplements and do all these things and I was expressing to her you know the the thing that we can do that is more impactful

that we just are not good at is being very consistent with the time we hit bed and that includes Friday and Saturday. I say because even if we're good Monday through Thursday and we have this, but then all of a sudden then on Saturday, Friday and Saturday, we're staying up till

midnight or one. It's like, I'm jet lag every week to start all over again. And so like, honestly, because she was trying to ask me, she's like, do you feel like you're going to have to take all this stuff? Because this is all new for me. I'm not a like super supplement, take all the stuff all the time guy, but I have been to just try and get to even the remote good sleep.

But then here we are missing out on one of the biggest rocks. but it's one of the hardest. So you say it's, obviously, it's one of the most important things, but it is, it is difficult to do it. Here's the way I think you should look at it because people are like, well, I can never stay up late. No, no, no, no.

This is the way I would coach somebody to approach this is the way that I would coach somebody to approach eating unhealthy. Right, right, right. It's like, okay, why are you staying up late? Is it because you're just watching a bunch of workless stuff on TV? Great point. Great point. Or are you out with your wife and you're connecting?

The occasional Thanksgiving dinner party that runs once a year is not a big deal. Yeah, we're having great sex, you know, and you're up like, you're like, oh, honey, sorry, we've got to stop this. Like, that's different. But usually what happens is you're just like, oh, cool, it's Friday and we're watching this total waste of time Netflix show. Totally. That I'm just going to stay up two, three hours later than I don't know. Like, that's, that's all. You just weigh your priorities.

And I think you're fine. I think most people just, it's so consistent. It's so consistent. Super bet. Like, if people go to bed at 10 p.m. throughout the week. They'll go to bed at midnight or one Friday and Saturday. That's a big difference. Well, it's, it's so... It's like you're

keeping yourself up. I know that. I've done it. It's so difficult and it's, and it's more difficult today than it's ever been because of these things. Yes. You got so much that can keep you away. Yes. There's a million platforms with a million series that you're in the middle of that you want to finish. You've got, you know, your phone

that's, you know, vibrating all day and night. That not only is just entertainment is also, oh, I can get some emails knocked out right now. I got to respond to It is the default is, just like the default is dysfunctional eating and low activity, because we've constructed society this way. What technology has done was sleep is it's made it, the default is dysfunction. Okay, what do I mean by that?

When you used to come home from work, you were done. If your boss wanted to get a hold of you, they had to call you on your landline and nobody would call you past dinner time. They just didn't do that. Yeah. So you were just done. I'm just done with, unless I took my work home with me, and I had some papers like I was done.

I couldn't check my emails or text 24-7. I didn't have access to all the information of the world at any moment or entertainment or reels. Have you guys seen the data on what reels do to the brain? Oh, God. The guy that created the endless loop or like when you get down to the bottom and it doesn't stop anymore, like has such conviction about that, like what he's created. Because into your point, like it basically is the same with work schedule now.

We've all just sort of mirrored that, that anything at any moment I could get a hold of somebody. Like, there's no barriers anymore. No. And so those natural barriers, we just didn't have to think about it because, again, back in the day, it's like, oh, the news is done. Nothing's on. You know what used to happen? I don't know what used to happen at, like 11 o'clock at night. The TV would just, you'd keep it on a channel, just there's nothing on.

They're done with TV. There was a time when that was done. Isn't that weird? I just keep remember. That's the real. Or do you put up that screen. There was nothing wrong. And then eventually it turned into infomercials.

Then he used to run infomercials late at night, which whatever. God, think about that for a second. Yeah, it was all infomercials until like five in the morning. The volume of content that. And you can watch it at any moment and you can choose what you want to watch at any moment. So it doesn't have to just be on. But I remember that. You put on the TV late at night and it would there'd be a screen that would come on and have different colors on it.

And it would be like, boop. You know, broadcasts. began at this time. They stopped. They stopped TV. Yeah. I mean, I also don't want to sound like the tech is all bad because, I mean, eight sleep is a piece of tech that actually is a huge bit of a brain FM is another

tech that I think is awesome that we use all the time that helps do this. So one of the things that if you're somebody who has a hard time calming your brain down, so part of my challenge of even starting that routine is, is many times at night, That's also where my brain is going. One of the things that will calm that down is that kind of, and it's not white noise. I know that there's, is more scientific the way it,

but that sound, I read this thing too. Have you guys ever heard, Doug, you can look this up for me. It's, uh, it's a sleep technique,

uh, and it's, it's the threes. The three, the three things. And it's not the three, like, it's not the three,

like, uh, a body part. You can move. you focus on sound in the room. And you take your brain to those three things and it like relax. It takes you off other things. Yes.

I forget what it's called. Just counting sheep like old school. I know that works, by the way. Counting sheep actually works. Justin, you bringing the brain of fame, you said you're, was it your, who tried it? Your brother? Yes, my brother. I just introduced it to him because we were, he's, he's a teacher and he's also a writer.

And he was kind of expressing, you know, what he's been writing. and he's writing this story. And I was like doing some work as well. And I just like, you know what helps me as I have to put this on because I start thinking of all these other things at the same time. It's like such a distraction that I, I didn't even realize I was like that in school. Like I could focus, but I was always like one thing would happen and it would just take me right out like so easy.

And just having Brain of FEM's focus on was like, you know, for me, it was like a superpower. I was like, wow, I wish I had this in school. But I was trying to express that to him. And I was like, you know, this might be a cool thing to bring up with your class. But he was listening to it. He's like, wow, it's so repetitive. And at first he was like resistant to it. And then we were, you know, just hanging out.

And then he was writing. And it was like, oh, my God. It was like, I was just locked in there for the last 20 minutes. That's awesome. He's tripping out on it. What does he teach? So he's a high school teacher history, AP history in English. So that's sort of his department.

But he's, it's funny because his brain is so similar to mine, but then more so on the, on left brain stuff. Like, I'm very right brain. And like, so we kind of like, it's interesting. He's taking a lot of the creativity and put it in that setting. So he has a unique way of teaching these kids. Like, they have to create, they have to learn it by actually like making things. And they have to draw it.

And, you know, and so it's, it's cool. He was explaining all that. Didn't just you and him go up to truck you by yourself? Uh-huh. That's the first time I've hung out with him for like a few nights in a row. Like we just kind of, I don't know, ever since like maybe he went to college when we were growing up. Wow. Yeah.

So that's like 20 years, bro. I know. And, you know, and I love my brother. And we've never had like bad blood between us or anything. We just like kind of different, very different. And like, anytime anybody meets him and they're like, are you guys like, like, We look similar, but it's like, you guys are totally different. Yeah, we're completely different.

Does he lift, too? No, no, not at all. So how was it? I'm so curious. When you talk about him, I think I've only met him once or twice ever. But when you talk about him, it reminds me so much of my, my childhood best friend goes all way back to fourth grade. And so for a very long time, we were like in several.

But as we've gotten adults, we are so different. Yeah. Like on, I just beliefs, ideology, like everything, career past, you name it. We couldn't be more different. And it's sad sometimes because we've grown so far apart. But yet, if you put us in a probably by ourselves for three days, we still have that. Yeah. That bond and connection and stuff like that.

And so was it like that? It was like that. Yeah, I think I was encouraged by that because it was, you start remembering so many things that you both enjoy. Like, he's very much into music. and a lot of the sci-fi stuff and all the totally nerdy stuff I'm into. So I think I think too growing up, that's why I have that side of me. It was because I was trying to relate to my brother and his friends. And like, I was the younger two-year younger brother.

So it was like I was trying to like, you know, integrate into his circle. And so I have like this very, very nerdy side. I could totally do like all the, you know, even like Dungeons and Dragons and all that stuff. I'm into it. Yeah, yeah. But, yeah, so, so yeah, we, we were geeking out and kind of reconnecting with that. But it was good, man. It's, you know, it's one of those things.

It's been on my list of priorities of, like, I need to do a better job. Like, reconnect. Yeah, yeah. I mean, how'd that come out? Did you, was it like a, like, when you just called them up and said, hey, let's do this or plan it. Like, when did that, when did that happen? Yeah. Um, I think, like, over the year, like, we've been kind of loosely and we,

there's been things too like that he's really into board games and like one time we made like a board game together like and it's funny because we've created things together and it's and they've been cool and it's been fun I just like I don't know I realize that like us hanging out if we're like creating things together it's way more enjoyable for both of us. Oh interesting. So we just have kind of done that like we're writing a story to together and we're kind of... Oh, really?

Yeah. And so that's kind of like what drew us to there. And I was like, you know what? Why don't we just like do this exclusively? And we haven't really hung out. And so I kind of, the trucky place is available. And I was like, let's just go. Oh, that's cool, dude.

For his birthday. So are you guys going to sell this story? Are you going to write it and put it in like a book? Yeah, we'll see. I mean, I try not to put too many expectations on these types of things. Try to have fun with it. And then see what it does. see what it does, but like, I'm really, it was really about me just connecting and bonding with him.

And then, you know, if it's, if it's a reality, cool. Like, I'm, I'm into it. Yeah. I love seeing my, my brother, because we, we're much farther apart than you and your brother. I'm six years older than my brother. You're six older than Giuseppe? Yeah. So, I thought he was closer. No, so it goes, me, my sister than him and then my other sister. But, so I was always the older, big brother. That relationship was like that for a long time until we got much older and then we kind of became more peers. But seeing him be a father is the best thing ever. He's such a good dad.

He loves his kids. He's so loving. He's so affectionate. He loves being with his boys. We went to this live nativity scene thing nearby. And every time I seen him with his kids, it just, it just warmed me. So I sent him a nice text. I'm like, the best dad, bro.

Do you attribute that? I mean, I feel like you guys had such a great foundation with your parents. Just, I think of like even Katrina's family, right? And every family has their dysfunction. Every family has their issues or what, like, nobody's perfect. Sure. But the one thing that I find in common, both with her family, your family, is just this, like, family unit. Like, in love.

Right? There's a lot of love. There might be yelling. There might be this. There might be whatever thing. but it's grounded in love, connection, all things. Would you, I mean, I would think that way about all your siblings are probably all really good parents and come from that.

Would you attribute it to that? Do you think they're... Oh, yeah. I mean, my, we have an exceptional family. Just they're always, they're so loving. They're always there, so consistent. There's actually very little dysfunction in, from the traditional sense, I would say, on my family.

Like, we don't have, you know, no one's ever been stricken with really addiction. Nobody's been to, you know, like bad things. Jail. Everybody does pretty well. Just really good people. thing about my brother and I, we're all affectionate. We have an affectionate family. But my brother and I are, I was just talking to Jessica about this. Because I'm very, you guys know, I'm a, you know, I'm a man, but I don't mind, I'll give a man a hug and a kiss.

And I love you, you're going to know, I love you. And my brother's like that. So he's, he's very similar. We're probably the two most, like, physically affectionate man in the family. And I'm like, I wonder why it was just us. It's because we were like that grown up. My dad's like that. He would hug and kiss us a lot. So you see him with his boys. He's got two boys. He's got boy boys, by the way. Like his oldest is like...

But he's still very affectionately. Bro, his son, his kids are cuddlebugs. Like, you, first off, they run on nuclear reactors. They have more energy than I've ever seen my entire life. But if you stop them halfway through going nuts and they're just always happy kids do, you pick them up and hug them and kiss them, they'll just let you. You know, some kids will squirm. That's cool.

They'll just melt and let you do it. And so I just love, yeah. And it's because he's like that with them, too. You know, speaking of kids, there's something I wanted to talk with you guys. guys about it's been on my mind a lot because max is getting close to that age we're not quite there yet um and ironically i've i've been reading all this stuff and uh both social media stuff across my own articles my own little digging and stuff like that around uh letting your kids spend the night at somebody else's house and there's a clear divide in uh my family and friends

uh that are very pro this and then some some that are extremely anti it. And so I'm not sure where I fully fall on this. Because I come from the, I spent the night all the time at people's houses. In fact, I spent more time at other people's houses because my house was a bit crazy. And I love going over to my friend's houses. And I built incredible relationships. In fact, I feel like I have three other moms and three other dads.

And I think a lot of that got me through. my childhood. And so that's obviously that's my, so I have this natural like, of course, my son's going to spend the end of that. And then, but as I've gotten to that phase, I've, of course, like, done my reading and this and that. I'm like, wow, statistically, I know the risk that comes with that. And so I'm so curious to how both of you have thought about that and what's your take on that. And do you, I mean, are you aware? I'm sure, I know you. I'm sure you're aware of the stats. I'm very... Deloney, like, do a good break down on the list. I know he's very against it.

I'm very choosy. So, um, if my teenage daughter is going to sleep over someone's house, uh, there's only a few people that we, uh, that we know that we allow that are not family. Was there a certain eight, would you even let her at 12 or nine? No, no, no, no. Oh, wow. So they... It wasn't even until relatively recently. And it's, and these are kids that would they, they, we know them. We know them. We've grown up with them. She grew up with the kids that my ex-wife knows the parents very well. And even then, I'm a little bit, uh, but the, uh, the sexual assault and molestation

and whatever rates with sleepovers is crazy. Well, it's actually really, especially for girls. It goes, number one is actually dad. Of course. And then number two, family and friends. And then three, I think is, is. So you, if you, you're a good dad, you know, okay, that's erased. Right.

You know, you keep you safe with your home and all that stuff. But sleepover is a controllable. And so that's the one I'm like, just be very careful. And here's what I mean by that. We'll have kids sleep over our house. Yeah. And the parents have never met me. Yeah.

My daughter will say, hey, can I have so-and-so sleep over? Yeah. And I'll say, sure, you know? And they'll meet the girl. And she's into my house. So it's like, I don't, that's fine. Yeah. And nobody will contact me.

Nobody calls me. They're just, the parents are just like, yeah. We're weird like that. Like we do more, we don't let them stay unless, like, we connect with their parents. But yeah, I mean, it's, let's, but on the other end, too, like, we, we definitely vet. Like, so we'll go, we've done this a couple times, even with the new school, because we want to get our kids, like, integrated and, you know, and they want to go to these parties, uh, birthday parties. And so we've been trying really hard to hang out with their parents and, like, do some investigation. and, you know, we've driven, like, to Morgan Hill quite a few times.

And, like, and it's been, hasn't been, you know, that frequent. And they're older now, so it's a little bit different for me, I feel. But definitely, I'm not comfortable if I don't know where they're going, which is crazy to me that that's. Well, the, so do you, okay, wait, so was there an age that they definitely didn't? So at what point was the first time you allowed, even started to even allow that? Do you remember? Yeah, it was probably like,

around 10, something like that. And even then it was, to your point, it was like all family and like really, really close friends. And they only had like two best friends, you know? And it's like they grew up together. And we all, since they were like in kindergarten, we knew them, you know?

And so it was like, I knew their parents very well. And I don't know. Like you said, I had a lot of like experience, you know, as a kid going to everybody else's, houses and like knowing. I think the conversation of us kind of like before the drop off was like they all had the number. They know that like and we've actually driven and picked them up sometimes in the middle of the night. We've already done that. Yeah. Because they felt uncomfortable. Yeah. And that's, that's, you know, a hard line for me. So you don't have to ask you questions.

Like, we're, we're there. Yeah. So I mean, so I have my, my son is, you know, it's only six, going to be seven this coming July. And he has one really close best friend. I mean, he's got several friends that, I'd say two, if you include my godson's, who is my best friend, right? And so, and I've, I've spent the night with those parents. They've come to Truckee with me. I've gone to events with them.

So Katrina's very tight with them all. And so, again, my natural ride away, oh, yeah, sure, go ahead. I wouldn't, I wouldn't mind that because I feel really comfortable with that before I start doing my digging and stuff like that and then you read that. And then that sense of like, ooh, God, that makes me feel uncomfortable. So I think for sure,

I would have to really feel, I know the parents really, really, really well. I would never let my, like, if my son came over, I want to go spend the night at DJ's house. Who the fuck is DJ? Like, no way. Like, no way.

Definitely would have to be when they're at least old enough to fully dress themselves, never have a question. You know, like, there's opportunities where it's like, Oh, I need help in the bathroom. I need help getting dressed.

Sure. That's a good point. And so, you know, when you're 10, 12, whatever, you're fine. But sometimes a six-year-old is like. Yeah, no, he's barely at that age. Yeah, I need help getting my shirt on. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or, you know, I had an accident, you know.

It's a really good point. That's a really good point. Yeah, and we try to host as much as possible. And it's, you know, it's a sacrifice a lot of times because, like, me and Courtney don't get to do what we want to do. But, like, we'll have the kids over the majority of the time for that reason. That's how I, I, I plan to solve most of this conversation.

You have to sleep over your house. My house. That's right. I've got the cool house. Right Max has got two beds in his room already. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like I think that I think we can probably take care of that for quite some time just that alone. By the way, there's a new risk that's now when you look at the data, which wasn't an issue when we were kids, although this was the first time I got exposed to this was at a sleepover.

But the first time oftentimes kids are exposed to pornography is when they're kids and it's at a sleepover. It's a very high percent And it's typically an older sibling Or the other kid doesn't have the same restrictions And that's the first time they get exposed to Sexual images That was the first time I got exposed I was a sleepover

I had to sleep over A buddy's house and he just You know It's just it's such an interesting conversation to me Because I mean one until I became a dad I never really thought about it that much Because it was so normal when I was little I mean I'm trying to remember

How young that I was when I was already spending the night at other people's houses. I was young. I was younger than mice. But you were also super young, home alone after school, watching your siblings. I know. I mean, it just shows you how much that. We were way more latchkey. That was that that was so normal to me that like it didn't even cross. How old were you when you were left home alone when your mom and dad were like, you could stay, you know, stay home alone. We'll be home in a few hours or later tonight. Well, I've told you the story before when I was five or six and my mom left. to go to the grocery store and I wandered down to the neighbor's house and to go play Zelda.

That's so young, dude. Oh, yeah. I was five, five, six of the oldest. Definitely under seven because we didn't live in that house. And I remember the house. I remember how in trouble I was. I remember the kid. I remember my mom leaving and she either went to the grocery store or went to get my sister or something like that.

And just bad timing for her. She left. And that kid was maybe minutes later knocking on the door. And I just got to do Zelda. And I'm a, you know, five-year-old kid like, okay, you know, just walked out, left, went down four houses and, you know, played Zelda for probably a couple hours. And by the time I came out, cops were all in the neighborhood and moms running around

frantically and stuff like that. And so that was for sure the furthest memory I have of that. But we were, by the time we were at the next house, and this is where we lived up in Don Pedro. And now I'm like seven to nine. I mean, I'm not just, I'm not only left home. I'm watching my younger siblings. Yeah.

You know, so, I mean, yeah, that was very, and then the closest grocery store was an hour away. So that was very common where I would stay and have to watch my siblings and do stuff like that. Yeah, I got to tell you that my, Aurelius was playing, like, make believe with his mom. So he was pretending to be like the dad going off to work or whatever and coming home. And he's so funny when you hear these kids talk.

He pretends. He comes home. He's like, I'm home. He's like, we were hopeless, but now we're okay. I made some money. Wow. We were hopeless. Wow.

We were hopeless, but we're okay now. I just came back from work. Danny Warbucks is back. Yeah. Oh, dude. You're at that perfect age right now. That's hilarious, dude. Like the vocabulary's coming together and he's like mixing stuff into different things.

And so, oh, so great. Dude, I was in a, I was in. I got a question to ask you, trust me. Believe me, there's a, there's a connection here. Okay. I'm going to go. Okay. Do you still, have you still never farted in front of your wife? Have you, that still?

100%. Same with her. Bro. 100%. We're on year 16 together. That's so crazy. Are you going to give stats of, you know, I got, well, I mean, there's a. I even have the courtesy when we're, when we go to our room and it's like 8 o'clock at night by this time and we're settling down.

If I, for some reason, have to take a late night poop, I go all the way downstairs into the other other bathroom. I do that. Well, trip off this. So, I mean, you might. Oh, God. Let me hear your stats on that. It's not a good thing.

You know why? It's attached to it. Over the years, I've reduced the exposure. That's for sure. Yeah. So what's it down to? Like, once a day? I'm going to give you.

Hey, I'm going to, I'm going to give you a stat to follow up your stat, though. So let me hear your stat right here. So no, no, no. So there's this article that's been circulating this hilarious study. Here's the title of the article. New study explains why sniffing your own farts could improve brain power and decrease chances of Alzheimer's. Oh, well, I definitely smell my own farts.

So, I mean, that's, if she's not there, I'm definitely. You're not helping her, though, bro. So, so, so trip off this, there was a study. That's her smelling my fart. That's not her smelling. That's not her smelling. You're saying, you're saving it for your, you're only helping your brain, bro. I'm sure when I go, she does it herself, you know what I'm saying?

Yeah, she's like, thank God he left the room. So I could drop my own heat. Yeah, yeah. So experts at John Hopkins Medicine remarkably found that hydrant sulfide, this is the chemical that produces the really bad smell and a fart might slow down brain cells from cognitive decline and even Alzheimer's. Now, okay, now, what I think is really interesting

of that stat is what is, okay, and anybody in here, ain't listen to anybody in here who denies this is a liar. But if you are in bed by yourself and you fart, you absolutely lift the covers up and you smell. No, I don't. Yes, you do.

Yes, you do. Yes, you do. I have no interest. Yes, you do. You lift your covers. 100%. It's mine. You dutching yourself?

Curious. Not me, dude. You don't? No, I don't care. So I think that's more weird. Did not care? No, yeah. I just panic.

I'm like, I got to get this out of here. I think it's it. Before she comes back. I'm not going to get any tonight. It's even worse for me because I use a sleep pap, right? So sleep ap because I snore. I can't smell.

That's the reason why you go. So if I, if I, if I eat too much protein, something like that and I fart under the covers and then I move, I'm like, I can't tell if it's come out because I got to see it. I'll just wait for my wife.

I hear her go, oh, oh, come on. I get the mask on. I would love to see somebody's had it done this. I believe my theory is that it increases sexual activity. To fart? To not fart.

Oh, yeah. I would think so. I don't know, man. Remember that, what's that guy's name? That rock star, that musician? Chuck Berry. What a novel. He was paying, though.

Girls. Yeah, yeah. You know what I just realized? He was paying those girls. Hold on a second. Do you know what I just realized right now? We've heard each other fart multiple times, except for Doug. Have you guys ever heard Doug fart?

Maybe Doug's like me. I am very much like you, Adam. Oh, you hear that? I'm very undercover. We've never heard, no. Not literally. We've never heard you fart, Doug. Doug, what's going on here?

Wait, now, are you with that with your girlfriend? Are you with it saying? Oh, yeah, totally. Oh, look at this guy's never came out. Why are you not defend me this whole time? I am defending you now. I don't even like this conversation. Oh my God.

I feel like it just takes away some of the mystery, you know? I like keeping things like... If you, listen, you talk to my wife and I, she absolutely loves it. She loves the fact that it does not seem like it's that hard of an effort for me. At least I don't, I'm not doing it. We're in the long game. My strawberry hurts, right? I mean, the amount of protein you're probably eating, I would probably be used.

We've never, we're men in here. Doug, there's no chicks in here. Your girlfriend's not in here. You're not going to sleep with us. Why don't you, why have you never farted in front of us? This is a, this is really occurring to me right now.

It's a, is this? No, it's not. Are you disappointed? Are you disappointed? You're not that often? Are you disappointed? You think I bless it?

Bro, you fart in the studio probably twice a week. No. Yes, you do. Once a week at least. Do you think that? You? Yeah, he's far many times in here.

Well, you know, you've done it with gusto a couple times, I would say. I don't know if it's weekly that I have. I don't know if it's weekly. Yeah. Well, yeah, I just tend to try to keep my bodily functions to myself. I mean, that's just, I guess I'm kind of a private person. Don't make me sure.

But hey, if you're really wanting it, you know. I mean, I'm not even a private person and I'm like that. I just, I don't, there's, there's no positive ROI for me. Yeah, I don't. It's like there's not. No, it's not like you're doing it to be like to make it like a, It's a positive thing. No, well, I...

It is a sign of not doing it. It is a sign of being human. Oh, is it? No, it's not. So the trust that my wife and I have is unbelievable. Unbelievable how much we trust each other. The fact that we can do business together and do the things that we do together highlights the trust. I'm not even talking about you and your wife anymore.

I get that. You guys have sex. Doug hasn't fart in front of us. This is really bothering me right now. Well, if that's what bothers you... Yeah. I mean, you can have it all you. I guess I've never realized that.

I'm sorry I've been disappointing you this whole time. I didn't realize that. He holds a lot of things back, dude. Well, I just now found out that he's on the same pages. I had this whole time you guys have been giving me this. I've been getting teamed up on over here about this. And this whole time, Doug's a bit over there quietly.

I've never been a big fan of that, honestly. Do you like fart humor? Hmm? Fart humor? Not really. Really? That's like God's joke. Okay.

I mean, everybody laughs at that stuff, I guess. Yeah. But it's not something that I, yeah, I just, it's not my big thing. Yeah. Yeah. You don't put it under dating. I mean, I was always like that too. Like, this isn't just like a Katrina and me thing.

I've, I've been that way since, since I was dating girls when I was young, very young. I've always just like, it's not the move. Dude, I work. It's not the move to rip one with the girl. I don't think he's intentional. I don't fart in front of girls unless it's my wife. or my daughter or my sister. That's a lot of girls.

All the girls are in the house. The only girls are not in front of your wife. You're not doing in front of the employees. But if it's like fam, like my sisters, for sure, because I'm his older brother. Like this is, you're going to get blessed. My wife,

we live together, right? My daughter, I like to annoy her. I mean, I've never met a chick. I've never met a chick who's like, man, yeah,

it doesn't even bother. My husband rips one and then we get into it right away. It's always, yeah, like sex-wise. Oh, yeah. That's never going to happen. Well, that's, okay.

I know we're going to do. Well, so, like, I, and maybe that's what it is. The frequency at what, that's happening at my house where there's, I, I'm going to ruin that. You know what happens? Yeah, in the moment. Yeah. What then? That's actually never happened.

No, really? If I, if I have, if, it's because he's not putting a lot of. Yeah. You're not really squeezing. You're not tried hard enough, bro. That's, um, I don't know. There's, it's like a heavy deadlift. I mean, I'm also the guy that puts his silverware away in.

in the dishwasher, which is like a simple detail that I think is easy and makes things life easy. When they're pregnant and you're part of this process, like you see everything. Yeah, it's just it's, there's no nothing left that's safe. Yeah, but yeah, okay, so good point. So imagine being reminded of that every single. Yeah, so I don't intentionally, I get it. I don't intentionally blaster, you know, but it's like, I mean, there's nothing that's like shocking. Plus it's you got your sons.

Like, I'm sure you guys. Well, they're the worst. So it's like, yeah. Plus, you guys think I'm beautiful all time. You guys all work construction. Well, no, actually, I was just going to say, I was going to say maybe that changes, but my son thinks it's hilarious to fart and farts on his mom and farts on us all the time. It's a good time.

Like, yeah. Again, you guys. I definitely didn't get it for me, you know what I'm saying? Well, you guys worked in construction. Like, that's just a, there is nothing sacred. Come on. We also grew up in an era where you did all that stuff intentionally. Yeah, I don't know.

Just with, I don't know, with women, I'm like, I'm different. Like, I just, sure, you. Again, me too, unless it's my. sister, my daughter, my wife. The only women you hang out with. It's a terrible example. It's not like you're a guy who hangs out with lots of women. It's all the women you hang out with.

You're like, I'll only fart in front of these five. Well, those are the five you only see. So that's not impressive. Hey, this is a great segue. Let's talk about the fog. Let's talk about the fog. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah. So I'm getting, what's up with that? We're getting lined up by Vicki on Monday. And she dropped some conspiracy fog thing to me. 20 days or something like in. this is all like because the central valley like it's surrounded by you know, Sierra's and then the coastal

ranges. So it's like it's just been sitting and it hasn't left. Yep. And you know, and you'll see some like videos that people are posting now too where there's like this particulate that they're finding on their car that's like this white. It almost looks like

it was some kind of like pesticide residue. So I looked into it. I didn't do super deep looking but I looked into it because there's just like Like all these theories. These are one-off videos. I don't know how to believe it. Yeah.

Oh, God. Or they're doing climate engineering or whatever. So I looked into it. So people were saying that there's chemicals or bacteria that is being sprayed in the fog to whatever. So I'm like, is there any truth of this? Yes, but not now. In 1950, the government, the military, sprayed bacteria into the fog of San Francisco. Doug, you can look this up.

So this is why this grew as a conspiracy because they've done it to us before. This is why you can't sit. You're stupid for thinking in that direction. They actually... They literally did that. They actually tested this on American citizens without them knowing. They sprayed a bacteria that was quote-unquote benign, but it did cost some illness, into fog. I love the cognitive dissonance.

To see how far it would spread. That's ridiculous. Well, it did happen. Oh, really ridiculous? Okay. Well, I'll connect something for you guys. And by the way, fog does trap, it does trap pollution. It does trap particularly.

matter. So all the pollution of stuff does get trapped in the fog. So air quality is worse. Yeah. It also makes turkeys actually weird. Turkeys. Yeah. What do you mean? So we have behind our house, we have giant wild turkeys. Lots of them. Lots of them. And in the fog, when the fog comes in, they get more, they get weird. And they start doing weird stuff. To the point, this, this happened. Bro, this happened the other day. There's videos of like these people saying, like, because they're, they're showing all these birds, like, in flocks and they were all acting erratic. Bro, okay, so they act all, they, this is only, it's only been on these foggy days. The first time that happened, freak the shit out of Katrina and I.

So it's like 6.37 in the morning. And Katrina's like, waking me up. Someone's on a roof. And I'm like, huh? And then you can hear, blah, blah, blah, blah. Like on the roof. Yeah. And I'm like, what, though?

And she's freaking out running through the house. She goes, runs, gets max. And we come out. And giant turkeys, not like little big giant turkeys are walking along my fence line, had hoped up on my shed and then hopped up on my, walking on my roof. And we've now seen it. Is that for them to get above the fog? I have no idea why they do it, but it's only, it's happened two times and it was on foggy mornings.

You're not even allowed to shoot them. I know. You can't even, no, you can't. That's why they, yeah, they get out of control their populations. You can't do anything to them. My parents house, they have a ton of a big goal on everybody. We have a ton of, every, every, like, probably once every other week, you, you hear the coyote get one, you know, late at night, like 11.

You hear, you hear him. You get caught. Max is like, what is that? What is that? Oh, one of those turkey. One of them turkeys got caught. R-A-P. But yeah, isn't that weird?

One, I didn't even think, I mean, turkey feet are big. They are tightroping the fence line, which is a trip. I've only seen turkeys running on the ground, so I didn't even know they would jump up or fly up to get on a fence line. How many turkeys would it take? to be afraid if they come after you. None. A 50 turkey is attacking you. Not even afraid.

You could take out 50 tons. For sure. That's not even a scary animal. I'd be more afraid of 50 geese. Geese are. Geese are meat. They're vicious. Geese have got little teeth and they buy...

Yeah, but I feel like you just, you just, you know... Well, I mean, that's what I'm saying? I'd be more afraid of that than turkeys. Turkeys are dumb animal. They're not dangerous. I don't know. I feel like 50 turkeys might pose a threat. You know what I mean?

Yeah. What did that say, Doug, up there? Yeah. So in the 1950s, they did release this. bacteria, they called harmless bacteria into the air. And the experiment showed the exposure among almost all of the city's 800,000 residents. How nice is that?

That's wonderful. Yeah, glyphosate was considered the same, right? They're just like, hey, guys, we're not going to tell you about this thing until 50 years later. Let's just spray everybody, see what happens. That's crazy. Yeah, experiment. That is, I was watching this interview on my first million, and they were interviewing this billionaire guy that started off as a lawyer, and his main thing was like, or one of the

the big things he did was fought cases with, um, cigarettes and stuff. And he, they got into that discussion for a minute, just how, like, because they were asking him like, you know, like, how does he like his cases? And he, he, he's like, his attitude, like he, like he, you could tell you, it's a lot of disdain for cigarette companies for like, I mean, they literally knew they are poisoning, killing people. And they, they even behind closed doors talk about like, I forgot the term he used for like, like, new customers. It's like, for the overturn of deaths. Like, we got to make sure. Like he goes, so he goes, I have no problem. Yeah, so he talks about all that.

And then he goes, he goes, and now those are all the processed food people. You go, so they've all moved from there. And so I know you've brought the same scientist. Yeah, I know you've brought this up like crazy. But to hear from a lawyer who's been suing the, suing them for so long. And he's like, and now they've got a whole of food industry. And people just are just unaware, just so unaware of the amount of effort. And they don't give a shit about obesity.

you don't give a shit about the addiction. They don't care about the dyes. They don't care about the health ramifications of none of this shit. It is literally a mission on how addicted to these foods, how many more times can we get them to buy more? And it's like, oh, the drop off of, you know, obesity. Who cares? It's like, how do we get the next generation hooked on it?

Totally. They, their focus. And by the way, this is their, of course this is their focus. So it's not a bad thing necessarily. But their focus is how to get more customers and how to get you. to buy more of their stuff. That's the focus. The focus isn't your well-being.

No, the bad part, though, Sal, is when they're willing to do things... Immoral. Yes, in moral in order to do that. It is not bad to build a company to be profitable. That's capitalism. And if you're pro-capitalism, that's how that works. You mean liable products that people are asking for. To do it through cheating, hurting in immoral ways, that's wrong.

I agree with deception. It gets more insidious than that because some of these companies will twist their own morality and their own thought process to justify the products that they're making. Well, people like it. It helps them relax. Yeah, but the end of the day, they know. At the end of the day, they know. I mean, they sold cigarettes as good and healthy and relaxed and all those things too, but you knew. It's crazy.

It is crazy, though, how the lengths that they'll go to defend and justify, like, look at the pornography industry. You know, talk about sex workers' rights and stuff like that. It's very interesting how it's been twisted. I mean, that's just good marketing. At the top, though, the person knows. Yeah, they know. You know. I mean, it's just like us.

If, obviously, there's so much of advertising, marketing, things that are going beneath this. But at the end of the day, we would be aware if we were using tactics that are immoral. We would know. This is, hey, listen, we've never used it before and after. Well, that's not a single product. That's not even technically immoral. No, it's just, it just, it promotes a little bit of that body obsession as well. It does.

And so it just doesn't align with it. But if our, if our marketing team knew that we could get people hooked on a food that makes them obese, then turn around and sell them why they need something from us, we would know about. Right. Right. You know what I'm saying? And we even though, and then that's just, again, highlights my point. Like the amount of effort that would go into the marketing would be to spend it, to make it positive,

and we're here to save all this stuff like that. But it's like the founders, the owner. you know. You know, you know damn well what you've green lighted or what you've done. And so, yeah, I think, and that's the part that it doesn't sit well with me is like when you, so many of these companies that are doing that, they're very well aware of how much it's impacting people's lives and they still choose. Yeah.

Well, my favorite is the pharmaceutical industry. I know. I was just going to say, that's the most notorious. That's the most notorious. And even in the way that they target, I hate children. The blind. faith people have in these companies, not without looking at their track record, you know, for like whatever new product they have that they're just claiming is all like the science is sound.

Do you think it's a, okay, you're not going to be skeptical at all? Do you think it's a toothpaste out of the, out of the tube situation? Like, it produces so much money that we can't possibly go back. Like the, like, we shouldn't be able to, pharmaceuticals should not be able to advertise. It just doesn't make sense to me. They can advertise and try and sell, sell it. It should be a, it should be something that a doctor prescribes. That's it.

That's it. HIPAA. I mean, it's like you, yeah, you, between doctor and patient. And so that, but is it because there's so many billions, not trillions of dollars into that industry and that it makes that you can't put the toothpaste back in? I mean, I think we can always correct, but it's hard. They have so much influence. It's ridiculous. Well, yeah, because of the lobbying and all these other things that we allow.

I mean, I thought, look how powerful. Look how powerfully they went after, they're going after peptide companies and compounding pharmacies because they discovered, they discovered a peptide that's a blockbuster, a JLP1. Yep. You know, so it's crazy. Did you see the beef? Yeah, I know. We're one of the, United States is only one of the companies.

Yeah, that's it. Everywhere else in the world. That's why I bring that up. Everywhere else. And what's even crazier about that stat, Doug, United States, New Zealand, only two countries to do it. and it makes up, I think, 75% of all. It's only because they can influence the company.

I mean, it's one thing, it's already bad enough, we allow it, but we don't only allow it. It's most all that you consume and see with that. That's why. All your entertainment has to, you know, say the same thing. Otherwise, they'll cut it it. Or at the least not talk negatively about that. It's controlled.

Did you guys see the beef between Dan Crencher's, Shaw and Sean Ryan? No. Did you see it? I seen him. I don't know the details, but yeah, I guess, I guess Crenshaw's team sent like a cease and assist and trying to sue. You're trying to sue Sean Ryan for like defamation. And Sean Ryan was like, yeah, no, I'm not going to retract anything I said, everything I've said. He's basically questioning how Crenshaw has got all this money with the amount of money he supposedly makes in his position. You make like $135,000 or something like that. And then how's he worth all this? all this money.

How is he able to afford these in these? Once they look into all these politicians. Oh, yeah. Oh, you could tell by his rebuttal. Like he just, I mean, he looks guilty as stuff.

It's like every, it's left, right, doesn't matter what side it is. My favorite part of all this was how, uh, the,

you know, Doge went in and just request, all they did was say, if you want money, you have to tell us for what and where it's going. That's it. Immediately hundreds of billions of dollars. Hundreds of billions.

Hundreds of billions. dollars stopped flowing out. Yeah. Immediately. All you had to do. He even said that the, the area that you type it in could be anything. You could just say for me or whatever. But because you had to write where it was going and for what, gone immediately.

Yeah. 100 billion dollars or more. Checks going to just aimless places. That's right. So government money. Oh, okay. Yeah. We were sending stuff to like dead people and people that.

Not just that. That's nothing. I'm talking about big checks going off to help whatever. All they said was that's fine. we'll send the money. What it's for. Just say where it's going and what it's for. Yeah.

That's it. And it stopped? Stopped. And it stopped billions of dollars. Hundreds of billions of dollars. That's it. That's 100% evidence of corruption. It's so insane.

It's hard to even wrap your head around. I mean, that just shows you, too, like how blatant it got to where you're like, we're not even trying to cover this up. We'll just write a check. That's why you couldn't. That's why they failed everyone. They're auditing them. Where's the trillion dollars you missed?

That's why the Pentagon's audits always. Get out of here, dude. You can't show there's no record. Where'd the money go? We don't know. All right. I guess that's it. We're good.

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Use the code December 50 for the discount. Back to the show. First question is from John Watts, 728. I know that walking after eating has a lot of upside. Does pace matter or is it just about the movement and being active? Yes, the data will show that the faster and more intense, the better the benefit. Really? Yeah, but they're splitting hair. It's, it's, it's, here's the thing. Is it appropriate for everybody? Are you going to do it more often or less often as a result? Like, I never communicate to people, go do a heart. No, is there, I saw, I didn't even,

come on, it's got to be splitting hair difference. No, it's a pretty big difference. Okay. Why? Because a heart rate elevated. Yeah, dude. So, okay. So, so instead of, Instead of doing a 10-minute walk or do a 10-minute hit workout, you're going to see a difference. Oh, okay. But who's going to do that after every meal? And how's it going to feel? Is it even appropriate? Hit-style training, in my experience, is inappropriate for a lot of people.

Even though the data shows it's so great, for a lot of my clients, it was like, we're not going to add this stressful form of exercise. So I want to make sure this person and everybody else listening gets this clear, though. Okay, so there are, there's research to compare just walking versus. hit style like cardio. But somewhere in the middle where someone just goes for a brisk walk, the difference from the brisk walk and the walk is not that.

90%... That's splitting hair difference. 90% of people that I would ever coach, I would recommend, or maybe even more, I would just say walk. Yeah, walk. Just walk afterwards for the insulin sensitivity, the digestion.

Plus, you get improvements in digestion from walking right after you eat. I don't know if it's a good idea to hammer yourself. No, definitely not. Right after you eat. And even a brisk walk, you're trying to play the calorie game.

and brisk versus a regular walk over the course of 30 minutes, not even just a 10 minute walk, 30 minutes is like a handful of calories. So it's not, you know, take your last bite of your meal that you just ate to get a smaller bite. It's more of a fitness benefit. You're going to get more of the endurance and all that stuff. But really, if you're walking after eating

and that's because you want more endurance, there's better ways to do it. Yeah. Next question is from J.P. Cartachan. Is CrossFit doing more harm than good for those folks who are looking for quick weight loss results. Yes. Oh, yeah.

Yes. Possibly. Quick weight loss results? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So here's the thing. Like, over the years, where do you end up? CrossFit programming in a lot of gyms has gotten better. That's the reason why I hesitated to jump on it right away.

It was just like, it's changed a lot. It is. I mean, CrossFit's less CrossFit today because of the push. So it's the more and more we talk about it, the more I hear about these coaches that are not running these circuits. like they were. So that matters in this, asking this question. Absolutely, it is, it is not helping you if you are taking, going to a CrossFit that is doing circuit type training. That ain't, that ain't helping. That is not going to speed up the process of your fat loss

journey. But if you've got somebody who's programming well, I mean, maybe, it's hard to, it's hard to say. But generally speaking, the 10 years we've been talking on this thing, it's not. But Justin pointed to something too. So whenever somebody says, I want quick weight loss. For me, that's a red flag. Yeah.

Because typically if you chase quick weight loss, a few things will happen. One, you'll get the quick weight loss in a quick rebound. That's one. Two, you'll actually... You'll actually...

You'll overdo it. You end up losing muscle overtraining. Or three, you hate it. You hate the process. So it's almost never... Somebody chasing quick weight loss, almost never results

in a good result. not long term for sure. Right. I mean, this is where you're saying Chase, Chase Health and aesthetics follow came from right here. It's like focus on getting healthy, being healthier, being strong, building your metabolism, you'll get the results. Chasing a quick weight loss strategy is like almost 99% sure you will not either not succeed or you will not maintain. Next question is from Iron Sun's training. What rules do you usually abide by during the Christmas holidays?

80-20, do you recommend staying strict to a nutrition plan all the time? How many days can you eat cheap meals over the holidays without taking multiple steps back in your fitness journey? So generally speaking, so I'll give you a general overview. I just eat healthy most of the time because this is what feels good. But when I'm in a holiday, my concern is not eating healthy. My concern is connecting with the people around me and enjoying the foods that people have brought. So I really don't think about it.

It's just we're there, we're together. The value of this holiday is not my macros and my calories. The value of it is the people connecting, enjoying the holiday season, enjoying the holiday foods. And so what do you got? You got Christmas Eve, Christmas, New Year's Eve. Like, okay, three days, right? And maybe some, maybe you visit with family in between that.

Like, it's not a big deal. It's really not that big of a deal. But now I'll get a little more specific. If you want some rules, when I would coach my clients, I would tell them, like, eat protein first. Yeah. when you're at the holidays. So try to eat that first and then eat the rest if you have challenges with this.

Make as good a decision as you can is with the food in front. But if you put too much pressure on it, most of the time, like people rebel. And then they do it in excess. And it's like anytime it's you're faced with that, I feel like the big struggle is like people just, they've restricted so much leading into it that it's like, oh. It becomes all about gorge. It's gorge. I'm pretty sure this was this was the type of question. the first time I ever said this on the podcast of don't eat like an asshole.

Yeah. Yeah. It was a long time ago when somebody asked something like this. And like that's the rule. It's just like to, what Justin's bringing up is like eating some milk and cookies that your, your aunt brought or having some eggnog with some, you know, bailies or whatever. I mean, that is not going to make you fat. Like completely falling off the wagon, eating like an asshole and just everything inside,

not hitting, not caring. The biggest piece of pie. Yeah, I mean, that's what's going to spin you out of control. And honestly, even that, if it's just done on the Christmas day or what like that,

it's not a big deal. It's not a big deal. But what that tends to do is once someone's kind of gone down there, then it turns out of control, then it turns into two days, three days, four days. It's a whole season. Yeah, it kicks up the cravings.

Now you're cravings. And that's what I mean by don't eat like an asshole. It's actually less to do with like even the one day. Yeah. It's actually what happens when someone goes over the top like that is now they just keep going. And it's like a couple of days of high calories, especially if this is somebody who's maintained their training, lifting weights through the holiday season, you're going to be fine. Oh, yeah. You're going to be totally fine.

As long as you keep training. It's not about the food. It's about the people with the food. So like what you say, Justin, if you restrict so hard that you're looking, forward to the holidays so you could just go nuts, there's a problem there. And I know what that feels like. That used to be me. Like, I'd go in and I was like, I'm just going to eat. And it became all about the food. It wasn't even about the celebration or the holiday itself. So, you know, and, you know, just to remind everybody, a big part of your health is social connection. It's a very big part of your

overall health, physical health. So don't, if you go into it with like this crazy mentality, you're, you're going to miss all that. Next question is from Cole Cope. What is your best advice for creating better discipline and consistency? You know, when we coached people, this is just what we saw that worked, but the data supports this as well. It looks like building any skill. So discipline is a skill. Some people are better at it than others naturally.

And I think we tend to look at people who maybe have a natural discipline or what would be perceived as better natural discipline and think, well, I don't got that. No, no, you can develop it and you develop it like you develop any of the skill. You start with small steps. Yes. And it looks like I'm going to do this one thing that's challenging so that it has some meaning, but it's something I know I can maintain and I'll start there. And then when I feel like it's a part of my lifestyle, then I'll take another step.

That's it. That's all it is. Treat it like a skill. And that's just, I mean, that's just the hard part is accepting that. You're like not taking it all on it once because your energy and motivation. right now so high that that just doesn't sound like it's going to be good enough. Yeah. And you're going to trick yourself into adding more and adding more and adding more and

you're going to, it's going to burn out and it's going to be too much. And so the real discipline is to, to your point, is to find that small thing that is like repeatable and it's going to stick. I mean, I have nothing to add to that, but more to just hammer this home. was, to this day, I still am this way. So on and off, consistency, when I get back to being consistent, I like choose one thing. Like, I'm going to do this thing. Like, for me, it's normally protein intake.

It's the first thing that goes. Like, I get real, if I'm not tracking or really paying attention or making a conscious effort, I'm naturally the guy that could skip breakfast to eat a smaller portion size, to eat more carbohydrates. grades. And so it's like the easy first go. This is not, this is not even me saying, I'm going to train X amount of days. I'm going to, I'm just going to make a conscious effort to get back on my protein kick. And I know that's, it's, and it's, and it's, and it's challenging enough. It doesn't, and when you, because I just want to make that point that people hear you say, oh, it's got to be

challenged. So, oh, what's going to challenge me? It's like, no, literally make it easy. We get an easy goal that you can accomplish, but it's a goal, meaning that you're not doing it right now. It's like, I'm not consistently, move the needle. Right. I'm not consistently getting protein, I know how important that is to my overall journey of health and fitness and being consistent. So I'm going to just commit to that. And then what I'll do is like, I'll build consistency around it. Oh, it's a couple weeks. I've been doing this.

You know what? Like time to start hitting the gym more consistently. One more step. Yeah. And it's like, I'm not going to go like, I'm going to go five days or four days a week. It's like, you know, I'm going to try and get to the gym at least once or twice this week and make that consistent. And that's and then I just do that. And even when I go, it's like a MAP 15 type of routine.

I'll make sure get in there. Do a couple of compound lifts. Get out for that. Like that is, and I think so many people to what Justin said in the moment when they're when they're motivated and they're hiding, this has got to change. Yeah. I'm going to do everything. You know, like today is the day. Tomorrow, you know, and they prep all the meal that night and they lay out their stuff and they get their maps program.

And it's just like, and it's like, dude, just last week you were doing none of that. So how about you just choose one of those things that you find will be the easiest to attack, attack that? build consistency around it, then add another layer. And then add another. And it builds. That's what's exciting. When you do it this way,

what's awesome is you see progress, pretty much at almost the same speed you would have you would have done all the things. Yeah. So you see progress. And then you start to get excited about it. And then when that excitement builds because of the consistency and the habits you started to build, the discipline you've built,

then it becomes. And you start scoring wins. Yes. You don't hit yourself with all these failures because you've introduced 10 steps. Right. All at once. And you only hit seven. So, Anil, what do you focus on? The three you didn't hit. Of course. Totally. Look, if you like the show, come find us on Instagram. We'll see what's at Mind Pump media. Thank you for listening to Mind Pump. If your goal is to build and shape your body, dramatically improve your health and energy, and maximize your overall performance, check out

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