Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 283: Gut Health

Episode Date: April 28, 2016

The gut is often called the “Second Brain.” In this episode Sal, Adam & Justin talk about why gut health is so important for your overall mental and physical health and the steps you can take to improve the health of your own gut. Please subscribe, rate and review this show! Leave an awesome 5 star review and you may be announced on the show as a winner of a Mind Pump t-shirt! Winners announced weekly! Learn more about Mind Pump at www.mindpumpmedia.com

If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, please only one place to go. MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, with your hosts. Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. You know what, before we do that, let me open this one. Dude, it's so bossy today. Let me... He's such a bossy little bitch today. Dude, tonight...

Are we recording? You heard Adam say that? Can I tell you guys something? I apologize if I'm a bossy little bitch today. Dude, can I, are we recording? You heard Adam say that. Can I tell you guys something? I apologize if I'm being bossy. I'm in one of those, yeah, I'm in one of those, I'm in one of those weird moods. Yeah, you, I feel like you're on your period. Do I have a lot of like, is it, is it? It's not negative, I'm not being negative.

It's like a feisty. Feisty. Yeah. Why am I being feisty right now? Being a little bitch. He's cutting in. I'm being a bitch. Everything. He's cutting Yeah. Why am I being feisty right now? Being a little bitch. He's cutting in. I'm being a bitch.

Everything. He's cutting in. Why am I being a bitch? Oh, how am I being a bitch? You're just being bossy. You're telling everybody what to do. Huh? I'm using this.

That means I'm assertive, not a bitch. I'm doing this. I'm doing this. I'm doing this. I'm doing this. A bitch would probably say she's assertive too. Huh? You call the bitch out.

You probably be like, excuse me. I'm just assertive. Am I the only one that gets turned on by that, by the way? Yeah. An assertive bitch. Of course. Yeah, person. I am the only one that gets turned on by that.

I don't know, I like an assertive one. You do. I like smart women. I do. Oh, yeah. I definitely hate brains as sex. That's great. What is any movie?

I don't like living in saladied bitches. You know what I'm saying? I don't want some of that's all passive. No, no, it's okay. I'll just have a salad. You know what the worst is? You know what the worst saying? I don't want some of that's all pass. Oh You know the worst The worst is that's me when we go to mouse voice the Get me out of here bro you almost did your what's that dude gollum? That almost sounded like gollum your little All right stop stop it Stop it. Stop it. Stop it. Stop it. Stop it. Stop it. It's scary. It's scary. It's scary. It is. It's all like scared.

Did you know that speaking of the high pitch voice that when a woman speaks to a man that she's attracted to, she will naturally raise her voice a little bit? What? Fact. No way. This is a fact. It's like exciting. This is true. True. 100%. Just like when a man talks to a woman that he's really attracted to, he naturally lowers his voice. Yeah. This is true.

This is, get out of here. This is true. This is true. Yes. But then why is it like, you know, when you start to like see something funny, you go, and he's sound like a fucking hyena.

Because me. Because she's just, I know just you were a fan. Yeah, listen to Adam laugh. Yeah. And he sound like a fucking hyena because me because Just you A low voice is a sign of testosterone so you know that's why you know, yeah That's why we lay it on the Okay, so you're meaning this girl the very first time you're physically attracted to her. It's physical. Your voice is gonna wanna be a little lower.

I'm gonna talk lower. Just deeper. Without you, yes, without you realizing it, without you realizing it, you could pick it up with recording equipment. So it's not exaggerated, but it'll be picked up. However, when women do it, it is a little stronger. And you can tell, you're every here woman woman like laugh and stuff around guys that are like real attractive

Like maybe some celebrity guy or whatever and you see a bunch of girls. They're like, oh my god Like their voices they definitely give the cursesy laugh. Okay, the voice is crying. Okay. Yeah, this guy's not funny Here's how you know for girls attracted. What do we read this? Huh? Where did we read this? I never read it any of them. I know fair enough. I don't say we did. I don't remember where I read it. I like making up words starting this strong. No, I did read it.

And it's just one of those things because men are attracted, subconsciously, we're attracted to a little bit of a higher voice because it it symbolizes fertility Higher voice symbolizes fertility fertility really a little bit of higher voice a little now I think you took some facts and you made some shit. I didn't I think you now I think you made some shit Think about it this way. Evolucine immediately of ovaries and yeah, I think about this way Why would you be attracted to that? There's an evolutionary purpose. I knew you were gonna get to it.

Share it with me. Well, that's the purpose. The purpose is that that, a little bit, a higher voice means we're in a form of better. No, it signifies healthy estrogen levels and better fertility. But here's what I was gonna say. If you wanna know if a girl is attracted to you

and you're a guy, pay attention to her voice. If her voice is a little higher, what she talks to you. She kinda and it for pupils, pupils dilate, if her pupils dilate a little bit, you have to get real close to see that. So that's kind of a tough one. But that means she's attracted. It means she thinks you're handsome for pupils. Or you can have some things on drugs. Yeah. Or you can have some face and she's doing coke. It could be that too. You should pet she's on Molly. Either way, you're probably gonna get some actions. That's a good point. Oh, good.

Oh. Either way, things are looking up for you. Yeah. Hey, before we transition to the fitness portion of Mind Pump, don't forget to leave us a five star rating review on iTunes and check us out on Instagram at Mind Pump Radio. You can find me at Mind Pump Sal, you can find Adam at Mind Pump Atom,

and you can find Justin at Mind Pump Justin. Okay, so I have a subject I wanna talk about. Well, no, if you're gonna do shameless plugs like that, I think we should shamelessly plug our program right now. Which one? The Maps Plug. The one that's in there. The one that's in there.

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He's got there yet. He's gonna give you a month free pass. Yeah, you're like you See that barbecue. I'll totally get it for you. So Adam's talking about maps aesthetic Which is now available at mine pump media.com lot of great reviews so far by the way from the program pretty awesome Okay, yeah on the topic so I wanted to talk about program pretty awesome. Okay, yeah, on the topic. So I wanted to talk about gut health. Now I know we've covered the micro I'm not laughing at it. I'm just you know, there's lots of people. It's just funny that you like it. It's so excited about you You got health. I don't know. It's good. It's not that it's different energy. I sometimes I feel like I'm getting bullied I sort of got it all. I do. I find it fascinating. So you know. It's not that different. It's energy. Sometimes I feel like I'm getting bullied.

I sort of got it. No, I'm not at all. I do. I find it fascinating. So, bro, you pushed me into the lockers yesterday. I feel like he's the least time we talk about this. I learned something new. So, seriously though.

Well, so gut health, we've talked about the microbiome, which is your gut flora, which is a very important factor to gut health. But we need to go into depth with some of the things that the gut, why it's so important to have a healthy gut. Yes, we do. And we're talking about everything from your intestinal tract to your stomach. Why are those so important? Well, I'll give you a couple of interesting statistics.

A lot of people don't know this, and this is relatively new information, but the majority of the serotonin in your body is actually produced by the gut. Not the brain. Not by the brain. It's crazy. By the gut. We've been told it was a brain forever, right? I'm in part of why they call it the second brain, right?

They call it the second brain, but in reality, in terms of serotonous brain. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And dominant brain. You know what trips me out about this? You know, when you have a good feeling, where do you feel it? And you're good.

I mean, it's an old saying, but it's it's so funny. How fucking weird is that? Yeah, it is weird. How weird is that that? You know what I mean? We've like it's like we've known yeah, but without knowing you know what I'm saying like things like intuition But it's like all centered. I have a gut feeling. I have a gut fucking for like when people get nervous and stuff like that They get nauseous. They get like this time of stomach issues going on. Where they get the butterflies, because they're in love. It's immediate fear. They're in love.

It's the butterflies in your stomach. So you're feeling. So check this out. You're really your culture. So we know serotonin is a feel good hormone. It's a love hormone. Anti-depression drugs target serotonin to try and increase circulating serotonin in the brain,

because it makes you feel better and a lack of serotonin will make you feel depressed. Now here's what's interesting. There is a very strong connection between depression, anxiety, and those kinds of serotonin related issues and gut problems. So if you take a room, if you take 100 people who are treated

for clinical depression, a much higher percentage of them will have gut issues like poor digestion, inflammation, and the gut and stuff like that versus the regular population. And antidepressants are notoriously ineffective for many cases. Now, in some cases, they are effective, but they don't have the greatest efficacy of drugs that we prescribe. And it may be because we're targeting the wrong thing. We're not looking at the gut. of drugs that we prescribed. And it may be because we're targeting the wrong thing.

We're not looking at the gut. And what's funny to me is looking back on the years now I've trained and been aware of gut health and worked on gut health with clients. How many of them became happier when their guts became healthy? Well, I mean, it's simple is like eating better, how much better you feel, you physically feel,

as a result of that. And that has to be partially just because of your gut is getting what it's craving in a sense, and also what you're promoting as far as a healthy gut bacteria. So there's a lot of feedback that you get when you eat. Well, and if you're not paying attention to that, it's like, I feel like that's part of the whole like new wave that we're seeing now

that people are starting to pay attention to that. Well, the connection is so deep, it's so deep that it's beyond the, you know, I'm eating healthy, not eating healthy. You could eat healthy and have poor gut health because you may be eating the wrong foods for your body. Like, you know, for example, for me, if I were to eat dairy or egg whites, which are both healthy, full fat, dairy is healthy, but I have intolerances to them. They'll give me poor health. And so it's more than just eating healthy. There's a lot more factors that

go into it, but it's fascinating because you look at things like people with, like Crohn's disease, which is massive inflammation of the gut, you know, the digestive system of the gut, right? High instance of depression. Now, in the past, people would say, well, obviously you're depressed, you're fighting a chronic disease. However, the rates of depression are much higher than people with other types of chronic disease that don't affect the gut. There is a much higher level. And so it could be, and I'm making a speculation here, but they're already investigating and studying this, it could be the gut, the fact that they have issues with the gut that's causing their depression and anxiety issues.

Now, speaking from personal experience years ago, I had a very bad irritable bowel syndrome where it was like borderline where I thought maybe I had some type of chronic autoimmune disorder like Crohn's. It was horrible. I lost lots of weight. And I felt at the time, I remember, of course, depressed, of course, more anxiety. But I do remember my mind wasn't,

I didn't feel like my old self with my mind. I felt paranoid, anxiety, you know, anxious. I was much more of a hypocondriac than, you know, I usually am. I remember specifically mental issues. And when I was in that state, it's very hard to recognize it because you're in it, you know, I mean, it's like playing a football game. You only see what's in front of you versus someone who's watching the whole game. So I didn't see, I didn't notice that I had some mental stuff that was following along with those gut issues that I had.

And it was pretty scary. And it's funny because I identify these things in a lot of my clients. Now that I'm learning this, I start to see these types of patterns of my clients. And when I hear people talking about anxiety, depression, whatever, one of the first things I look at is their gut health. And I start asking questions about, you know, how healthy their gut is.

I don't know if I'm more impressed with your knowledge on the gut or the fact that you just used a sport analogy with it. And it worked. And it did work. I was, I was like, I totally drew it went, it was like, whoa like, whoa, that wasn't Justin who just said that. Sound just came a gut football and a football. It was. That was just like the holy grail of sports and allergies. You guys are making me blush. I am super impressed right now.

Well, so you know what they just discovered? I believe it was last year that the lymphatic system goes all the way up to the brain. So up until last year, if you were to grab an anatomy book, 2014, 2013, whatever, and you were to look at a picture of the lymphatic system, they would show it stopping at the neck. It did not go to the brain, but now through, brilliant ways of dissecting and looking and seeing they found these vessels and they're going to have to change all these anatomy books, but the lymphatic

system now goes to the brain. And so you now have a direct connection between the gut and the brain. Direct. So when we talk about gut flora, you know, and let's let's keep in mind by the way a The major factor of gut health is your gut flora and when we're talking about serotonin production without gut bacteria Got flora you wouldn't produce any serotonin in fact There's a lot of nutrients and stuff you wouldn't produce anyway that the gut flora is responsible for there's actually certain nutrients that The bacteria and your gut produce that your body would require. If you don't have them there, then you don't produce these nutrients to become deficient.

But if your bacteria is off, it is sending chemical signals that travel through the lymphatic system go directly to your fucking brain. So really we're just speaking on behalf of our bacteria. Yeah, absolutely. Well, I find it very fascinating how it changes. So, for example, and I can't explain it even.

I just know that when I change my diet dramatically, like whether I decide I'm going to do this carb cycle thing or I'm going to run ketogenic, or if I make these drastic changes of eliminating or minimizing a macronutrient that was maybe dominant in a diet before that. The transition period of when I first go through that, what I feel and what I notice, and then when I get used to whatever it is that I'm doing. And the good and bad, you know, for example, like the ketogenic, when we went ketogenic and I cut out all the carbohydrates for that period, and then I decided to reintroduce them.

The first time that I tried to reintroduce them, it was like, whoa, I mean, my stomach let me know, right away, like, whoa, we don't like this, or this doesn't feel good. And to me, it was like, holy shit, it wasn't even that many grams. It wasn't like I ate like a box of donuts in a milestone. My stomach said, no, we don't like this.

It was like, I don't even remember what the first thing I had, but you know, I had an amount that was, you know, between 50 and 100 grams of carbohydrates in one sitting, which wasn't crazy for me for guy who ate four to six hundred. But more is that? I mean, because I mean, there's definitely a transition period. Like, see, you're somebody that eats fast food all the time. And then all of a sudden, now you're eating broccoli and you're trying to like up your diet and then they have the worst gas on the planet. You know what I'm saying?

Yeah, if you look at, okay, so if you took somebody who ate lots of processed foods, sugars, you took another person who ate a ketogenic diet, very high fat, low carbohydrate, moderate protein diet, and then you had somebody else who was a vegetarian or a vegan. And you were to examine their gut flora You would find different profiles and you could do this with a huge swaths of people You would see trends in all vegans you would see trends in all people weekito You would see trends in people who had who ate lots of fast food and that they would have a particular type of Internal gut flora now we don't know yet, okay?

We do know that there's some gut flora that if you supplement with, they're good for you and other ones that are bad. So probiotics, they just throw those in, but we don't know what the best profile is for what? It's still an emerging science, which is exciting for me, because there's so much to learn there.

But my point is if you change your diet, your body's internal gut flora will change along with it. Okay? And this is something you could take advantage of. If you eat healthy, if you follow the tenants of healthy food, whole or natural foods and you eat good variety, you're gonna have a more healthy and better variety of gut flora. And if you decide to make a drastic change in your diet, you're probably better off doing it over time.

For example, Adam, you were talking about how you went keto and then you tried to, you know, have 150 gram carb meal or through 200 gram carb meal, that's two is too quick. It was too quick because your gut flora had changed because to break down the fats and, you know, utilize the nutrients from the fats in your diet and now they have to go and all of a sudden there's only starches.

And so you can have some problems. Yeah, it has to be able to transition into now processing that on that level. So yeah, that makes perfect sense if you're, if you're all of a sudden introducing a whole another group of food, it's going to drastically sort of like put a halt to everything as far as like your metabolic system is concerned and then like have everybody, now we have to reprioritize how we're going to work this out. Yes, and when it comes to, you know, a healthy gut, you know, variety is very important, but before variety, and I want to be clear because I don't want people to go out and just eat a bunch of different variety. Rule number one is you can't eat foods that you have intolerances to.

Foods that cause inflammation in your stomach, gas, too much gas, pain, cramps, if your stool is off. Yeah, you get constipation diarrhea, that kind of stuff. Stay away from those foods first. Don't just throw them in because it's variety. But once you have all those kinds of foods eliminated, then it is a good idea to throw on some variety. I've talked about this many times, and this is one of the reasons why I incorporate a vegan, a low protein vegan day, you know, once every other week or sometimes even once a week. I do this purposely to kind of encourage

the, you know, my gut floor to be a little bit more, you know, diverse. And then of course within the macros that I eat, I also tried, you know, there's gonna be days because I do eat lots of fats and sometimes I eat lots of avocados. Other times it'll be lots of coconut fats. Other times it'll be lots of olive oil and I'll have my fish.

Because I'm training courage the growth of of a nice, diverse gut flora that's going to be very healthy for me. Alongside the nutrients and stuff that you get from those kinds of foods, so think about how bad it may be in that case, eat the same food all the time. Right. You know what I'm saying? You're constantly eating the same food all the time. You're encouraging a particular type of gut flora.

There also has to be a correlation between like your immune system then at that point, right? If you're just always eating the same nutrients and you're probably deficient because you haven't introduced a lot of diversity in your diet that you're actually gonna get a lot of different benefits from. So micronutrients and macronutrients.

These are things to consider as far as like your body is a whole. Well somebody recently asked, I think it was the forum, was the forum or Q&A. I don't remember what it was. We got asked about my diet and prep. If it would change with the whole six meal eating because we talked shit about this and that. The problem that all of us have with that and I had still have with that is it's the food choices that you pick within those six. There's nothing wrong with eating six. If you want to eat six meals a day, if that works for you, but the rotation of the food in there is very important. I've always done that. I think it's always been important to rotate the foods. And when you

look at your meals on a weekly basis, you definitely do not want to be eating the same things over and over and over. Otherwise, like you said, you're not only going to be deficient, but then you sort of change that ecosystem just for that. So anything outside of that, and you guys taught, Justin taught us a lot of performance. You talk a lot of overall health. I, of course, I'm always Mr. Aesthetic Guy. I find it very fascinating to me how now my body is responding differently to carbohydrates, which I believe is stemming all from the gut

and how my gut processes it, because from a guy who was eating four, 600 grams of carbs, I could eat a hundred grams of carbs and not fill all filled out. That makes sense, right? I didn't fill my muscle belly is all full. I couldn't see that from just a hundred to a hundred and fifty grams of carbs.

It would take three, four hundred. I'd have to load way up and then I would see myself all filled out and my skin would be tight. My muscle belly's would be all puffed out. Now because I've now changed my eating profile and what I think have changed my gut for, the way my body responds now to carbohydrates, I have 50 to 100 and it's crazy. It's crazy. What a difference. Now it feels like or makes my body look like I just had 400 grams of carbohydrates. So I find that.

It's fascinating. It's very fascinating. Very interesting. And why it's so glaring for me? Because this was a big issue when I was competing. preppyque is one of the hardest things for, you know, all competitors is to time your best to look. When you get to the point where your 2% body fat and you're presenting your physique on stage, every little bit makes a big difference, you know, because it is, it's the slightest bit of change of illusion that you can create by the way you look.

You could be flat or you could be more filled up. Yeah, it's totally different. Yeah, and we don't talk a lot about that on mind pump because that really doesn't matter when you're trying to get it overall shape or build muscle. So it's a short term. It is a very short term thing. But for me, because I've had to become so analytical

with all this and track everything and pay attention to it, I always found it very challenging to time that perfect, just the right amount of water, just the right amount of carbohydrates, just to give me that look to where I didn't look all puffy, but I looked filled out and it was hard to hit that sweet spot. And a lot of times because my metabolism was roaring, an extremely low body fat percentage.

So my body was just powering through calories, power, and it would, I'd eat a meal, and for maybe a moment, I'd feel a little bit, feel that in 20 minutes later. And so that's a little stressful when you know you gotta hit a stage, and you might be standing behind stage for an hour, hour and a half before you get out there, which is why you see all these guys popping skittles and doing stupid shit in the back.

That's why they're doing all that stuff, is because their body is processing, these carbohydrates so fast that they're going in the system all their systems so quick. Well, I think that part of that has to do with insulin sensitivity and you've just, you've just made your body so much more effective at using insulin. Right. To the point where now you're, you're building lots of muscles. Shadows it like a meat.

You're strong. Joints are feeling better. You said your skin's better this and that and you're eating a third or a fourth of the carbohydrates you're your skin's better, this and that, and you're eating a third or a fourth of the carbohydrates you're eating before, and you're gonna do it, and you feel better. I think when we're talking about the gut, we should talk about inflammation. And here's the thing, you talk about six meals a day,

I talk about eating less frequently. Here's the thing, pay attention to this. Pay attention to how eating six meals a day affects your gut or how eating less frequent meals affects your gut. For me personally, if I eat two frequently, I get gut inflammation. The science actually confirms that there is a potential for that for eating two frequently. Now, my theory is that you're just constantly working.

You're constantly throwing food at it. You're not allowing any type of inflammation that happens for eating to subside. Every two hours, you're throwing food at it. And so you're not allowing any type of inflammation that happens for meeting to subside. Every two hours you're throwing food at it. On the flip side, I could see somebody getting an upset stomach for meeting too much at one sitting. And so that could cause inflammation. But gut inflammation, that can come from the type of food you eat. I know every single person listening right now

has that food that makes them feel shitty and they're stomach afterwards, but they eat it anyway because it's like, I'll fuck, I'm a pizza, but I'm a pay-for later, I'm gonna get heartburner, I'm gonna get. Let me tell you, is that crazy we do that? We do that, but here's the thing, I want you to pay attention to this.

And think about, I'm not trying to demonize certain foods, I'm not trying to make you eat like a robot, but when you have that inflammatory reaction, that is an immune reaction. It is not something good is what I'm trying to say. It's not something normal. It's not like, oh, every time I eat pizza, I get heartburn or I get super gassy. Take it to shit. That's totally normal. What you're doing. What you're doing to your body is you're actually triggering. That's it. One always makes me feel bad. You're triggering a small immune reaction. And now over time, if you continuously trigger

this immune reaction, then they become bigger and bigger and bigger and what will end up, what what sometimes happens, not always, but in many cases, you get this cascading event immune reaction where all of a sudden at a nowhere, you're like, I used to be able to eat that. Now I can't even look at it and it destroys me. Now my stomach is so sensitive.

I can't, and I see this a lot with people once they hit their 30s and 40s, it's because they didn't pay attention to those things. Long-term chronic inflammation there. Think about it this way. When I, if I take a piece of sand paper and I scratch my leg a little bit with it and I get a little rev, that's an immune reaction.

Okay, my body is sending inflammatory signals there and chemicals and you can do, you can do, address this. Certain cells are going there and it's trying to heal. Now, if I keep rubbing that every single day, just a little bit, it's going to cause a bigger and bigger immune reaction until I break the skin and start causing to bleed. Well, every time you inflame your gut, you're pushing yourself closer to that and check this out.

When the gut, see, the gut is, it needs to be a barrier. It has to protect the bloodstream from certain things entering the bloodstream through the gut, where it doesn't want them to be entered. Okay. If the gut is inflamed, think of the cells of the gut as causing this kind of, this gate that will only allow some things to go through and not everything to go through. But now it's inflamed. It's a little more porous at that point. It's porous. Those cells, there's more space in between them.

They're less effective at blocking out, quote unquote, toxins from entering the bloodstream. And now you get what a lot of health professionals call leaky gut syndrome, which more and more evidence is now pointing to the fact that it actually exists. There's still debate as to whether or not leaky gut syndrome exists, but there's more and more evidence that's coming out almost on a weekly basis on how leaky gut syndrome is indeed a legit situation.

And this is from this leaky gut syndrome cause joint pain, skin issues, sleep issues, sex, you know, sex strive issues, issues with depression, anxiety, like so many different things because these, your gut is as permeable and allowing to me things that, you know, toxins to go into your blood. Well, and it just seems to me that if you're already fighting yourself internally, any external force that, you know, you're, you're inflaming through just your basic exercise. These could all, if you're already fighting something, it's going to amplify everything else to where it's going to become a problem, whereas it could have been something that's

going to promote a healthy change within your muscle fibers and whatnot. Now it's turning into more of a situation where it's like an arthritis that I'm going to deal with as a result. It becomes a systemic problem. And then once you get a strong autoimmune reaction, once you get this big systemic bang, your body becomes very sensitive to it. It's almost like your immune system remembers it. And I will never be as good as I was before I had those horrible symptoms. I am controlled it very well now with diet and with, you know, I supplement with probiotics when I need to and I know how to, I have a regime that I do. But if I were to just go nuts like I did before, the reaction I would get now would

be far worse than the one I had before, and maybe would be impossible to recover from on a natural basis. I have a very, someone very close to me with Crohn's disease, and he got Crohn's disease at a young age. Luckily, his mother, very, very smart woman, she's a registered dietician. She did lots of research because

one of the treatments for Crohn's are horrible. Now, they're better than the Crohn's many times, but some of the treatments include like low doses of chemo and other types of things to kind of shut down the immune system to stop it from destroying itself. So she didn't want to go that route. So she did lots of research and she went the dietary route. She put them on what's called the carbohydrate- carbohydrate specific diet which eliminates a lot of these triggers and focuses on gut health well The kid made a full recovery, okay?

His Crohn's was almost undetectable at one point now. He is a kid He's he was a teenager and he would go out with his friends and you know He had to stay on the strict diet if he stayed on strict diet, his Crohn's was completely in check. He was totally fine. But of course you got your friends, you test it a little bit. I'll have a cookie here. I'll have some pizza here. I'll have a burger here.

And he'll get a small reaction, small reaction, small reaction. But now he's thinking, he's encouraged. He's thinking, I can get away with it. Like I'm fine now. I'm healed, right? He kept pushing it, kept pushing it, things started getting worse. Then he got an infection,

so he had to go on antibiotics, which antibiotics just ravaged your gut, your gut flora. Boom, full blown, crones, worse than what he had before, had to get some of his bowel resected and had to go on some extremely aggressive treatment to control it. And so that's why it's so important to pay attention to these types of things.

And people listening right now, especially if you're young, you're like, ah, whatever, I'm going to tell you something right now, the fastest growing diseases in modern world or autoimmune, autoimmune diseases are exploding. And those are the ones that we do not have cures for. So you're not going to get it and then fix it. It's going to be fucked. So you're going to have to deal with it. Yeah. So learn it, learn into pay attention to these subtle signs. I mean, you're stomach feeling nauseous after you eat your, you

take, you're having the shits, is those things are, are headaches and this is your body trying to tell you stuff and being aware to just ignore it or just think that, oh, I just have a headache or, oh, I just, oh, it must have had something weird. Like really think about that. Like when you're, when you're messed up or oh, I just, oh, it must have had something weird. Like really think about that. Like when you're messed up like that, your body is trying to send you these signals and pay attention to that. And the worst part though, like I was saying before,

like what happens, and this happens like fast food eaters, right? Like so, I mean, none of us in here eat any junk food. But I guarantee if we said, okay, I'm gonna force myself to eat McDonald's, or you know, fast food 24, seven for the next seven to 14 days You know by day seven or so. I bet you it goes down just fine Day one up to it. Yes day one day two day three day four not so fun day seven. Hey the saying so bad I can do this

Well, what happens at that point, because you have the immediate reaction, but then what you have is you have kind of under the surface, small doses of inflammation, and you don't get away with it for very long. Look, okay, I know you guys were the same. When I was a kid, I could eat fucking whatever I wanted. Anything, nothing bothered me. Like, this is what kids don't get heartburned for the most part, right? Kids don't get, you know, they can eat whatever they want

and there's no big deal and as adults, all of a sudden, you become old and you know, now my grandfather, like his favorite subject to talk about is if he took a good poop or not, this is just true by the way. If you feel sick, my grandfather's like, did you poop? It's a big deal, I remember I think I'm quite old people so concerned about it.

Because as you get older, you don't get away with that shit anymore. You gotta like celebrate. You exactly. So, you know, you just don't, you just, you have to be, that's something you have to think about, be mindful for. And the good news is it actually motivates people

to eat healthy from a different angle than just the way they look, because a lot of times people think they can get away with things because they're lean and muscular. Right. Really what they're affecting is something, you know, much deeper.

But one, I did want to read a quote from Hippocrates. Blows me away that back then, they had this understanding of how the body worked and we're now having the science to confirm it. But one of these quotes that he says very common, right, popular one, is all disease begins in the gut. He actually said this as a quote. They're not mind blowing.

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