Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 2843: The Newbie Gains Hack That Works After Years of Training

Episode Date: April 24, 2026

If you've been lifting for years and your gains have stalled, there's a hack that recreates the rapid strength gains you had as a beginner, and it works even 15 years into your training career. Sal, Adam, and Justin break down the neuroscience behind newbie gains, share the specific exercises that unlocked a whole new level of growth for each of them, and explain the most common mistake lifters make when trying to apply this (using the new exercise as an accessory instead of making it the priority). Then: a 45% acne reduction from red light therapy in 4 weeks, a chimp civil war in Uganda involving 200 animals that scientists say only happens every 500 years, planned obsolescence in phones and appliances, how Element changed the entire narrative around sodium, and four Instagram Q&As on training while pregnant, switching phases, AI workout programs, and hip imbalances.   Sponsors 🔗 Joovv — Red light therapy panels, proven results on skin, recovery, and acne: joovv.com/mindpump — $50 off with code MINDPUMP 🔗 LMNT (Element) — 1,000mg sodium electrolyte powder, no sugar, no artificial sweeteners: drinklmnt.com/mindpump — free sample pack with any purchase 🔗 Paleo Valley — Fermented grass-fed beef sticks, high protein, gut-healthy: paleovalley.com/mindpump — 15% off 🔗 MAPS Push Pull Legs (NEW) — Men & women's versions, at-home dumbbell option. 40% off: mapsppl.com with code PPL 🔗 Submit an Instagram Q&A question: @MindPumpMedia Find Us 📲 Instagram: @MindPumpMedia 💻 Programs, coaching & more: MindPumpMedia.com   00:02:07  Newbie Gains Hack for Experienced Lifters 00:03:31  What Newbie Gains Actually Are (CNS Explained) 00:05:42  Sal's Front Squat Breakthrough — His First Newbie Gains Hack 00:07:17  Adam's Incline Press Story — Dropping the Ego to Make Gains 00:09:41  Justin's Kettlebell & Turkish Get-Up Journey 00:11:07  Sal's Reverse Curl Origin Story at 16 Years Old 00:12:17  Exercises People Avoid — Behind the Neck Press, Zercher Squats & More 00:14:16  The Mistake: Adding Novel Exercises as Accessories Instead of Priority 00:16:03  You Don't Need Radically Different — Barbell to Dumbbell Works Too 00:18:55  Adam's Shoulder Unlock — Making Weak Points the Priority 00:20:01  Red Light Therapy & Acne: 45% Reduction in 4 Weeks 00:22:26  Sal's Teenage Son Starting Creatine & Red Light 00:23:30  Chimp Civil War in Uganda — 200 Chimps, 7 Dead Adults, 17 Infants 00:27:07  The Woman Whose Pet Chimp Ripped Her Face Off 00:30:00  Joe Exotic Update: Still in Prison, Battling Cancer 00:30:40  The Jeffrey Epstein Lookalike in Miami — 'Palm Beach Pete' 00:33:38  Appliances Used to Last 30 Years — Planned Obsolescence Discussion 00:36:34  iPhones Are Designed to Die — The Lawsuit That Proved It 00:38:05  Jessie's Landline Hack to Break Phone Addiction 00:39:09  Beepers, Pagers & How We Communicated Before Smartphones 00:40:05  California Faraday Bag Phone Policy in Schools 00:41:49  Element Changed the Sodium Narrative — How They Did It 00:47:40  Nuuly — Clothing Rental Subscription Service 00:51:10  Laying Out Clothes the Night Before — Sal's Morning Hack 00:53:28  Letting Kids Dress Themselves & Kids' Fashion Stories 00:57:16  Cherishing These Moments — The Letter from Your 75-Year-Old Self 00:58:58  Bonding with Teenage Sons — Going Into Their World 01:01:04  How Adam's Dad Bonded Through Work — A Realization That Hit Like a Truck 01:03:46  Boys Day — Dedicated One-on-One Father-Son Time 01:05:25  Q&A #1 — Does Strength Training While Pregnant Create Stronger Babies? 01:09:17  Q&A #2 — Do You Lose Adaptations When Switching Training Phases? 01:11:08  Q&A #3 — How Effective Is an AI-Written Workout Program? 01:16:06  Q&A #4 — Hip Imbalance Causing Back Pain During Lower Body Exercises

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Now this eventually slows down. And now your experience, we've been working out for a little while. Can you tap back into those newbie gains? Can you get rapid strength gains like you did in the beginning? Kind of. There is a hack. We're going to talk about it right now. Newby gains hack for those of you who've been doing it for a little while.

Let's go. Yeah. So I'll just put it out there. Do an exercise you normally don't do and practice it and get good at it. And those initial strength gains are very similar to what you experience in the very beginning. Learn a new skill. That's it. That's a beautiful thing.

I think the hardest part about that is the accepting that you're going to be not good at it again. Yeah. You know, like one of the things that happens, I think to all of us. Humbling. I think we're all guilty of, you know, falling into the rhythm of doing the same, same similar type of workouts. Sure. Regardless, even if you're, if you're good about periodizing and changing up some of the exercise. and rep ranges and all the things that we talk about,

we still are all probably pretty guilty of kind of hovering around our favorite way of training, you know, generally speaking. One of the best ways to get all them newbie gains is to do something completely different than what you currently do. And you could do that simply by just choosing one exercise is different. And that's like less radical. I think that's one of my favorite ways to do it. So let's explain newbie gains real quick because it's, first of all,

It's exciting, but sometimes it sets people up for failure later because they're like, what's going on? Why am I not adding, you know, five or ten pounds to the bar every single week? When you first start strength training, so long as you can move well, right? Because sometimes you have to start out and work really hard on correctional exercise stuff first. But let's say you could do, you know, basic exercises. You start working out and you're eating right. Yeah, you're healthy.

You're adding weight to the bar every week. Like every single week, you're adding reps or weight to the bar. And this lasts for like a little while. It goes on for like a few months, oftentimes a little longer, where you're just making gains over gains. And this is called newbie gains. And then it slows down very quickly. And then it becomes more of a consistent, like, it's a harder process, right?

What's happening in those early stages of strength training, the reason why you're seeing such rapid increases in strength is a lot of it has to do with central nervous system adaptation. So although larger muscle fibers contract harder, you're central. nervous system plays a huge role in how much weight you can move and lift. This is essentially, this is the power system that tells the muscles what to do, that charges the muscles. It's like an amplifier to the speakers. Whereas your muscles are the speakers, the central nervous system is the amplifier. And as that strengthens, your current muscles suddenly can lift more and they can lift more because

they're more organized. They can fire harder. You're more stable. And these strength gains are really rapid in the beginning. I'm training my buddy right now. And it's funny because, you know, so long as you don't overdo it, right, if you train properly, you'll see this in the beginning. And he's like tripping out because we'll do the same exercise we did the week before. And it's like five more reps. He's like, what's going on? It's addictive to. In that beginning, it's so helpful to have that body really just like responds to this new stimulus and it gives you that confidence boost. Totally. But yeah, inevitably, you know, that kind of runs up. and you have to, you know, stay ahead of that.

Just like anything else, like we're going to run into plateaus. And this is one of those things that's exciting, but we also have to think how we're going to stay ahead of it. I remember the first time I hacked into this as an experienced lifter. So after a while, the new beginnings go away. It doesn't just keep happening. And I was doing the traditional lifts. And, you know, I was doing pretty well.

And then I started doing front squats. So front loaded squats, right? Never did them really consistently before. They were hard. I sucked at them. I could do like a fraction of the weight. I could do with a back squat. And I just got convinced that they're really effective.

I knew Olympic lifters did them. You know, old school bodybuilders in the 70s did them all the time. And I said, you know what? I'm going to start doing front squats. And so I started practicing front squats. And after a couple weeks of kind of getting used to it, I was adding weight every week. It was like every week I was hitting a new weight that I could lift.

And I was like, oh, it's because I'm learning the skill of this exercise. And then I use that throughout my lifting career, where I would pick an exercise that I haven't done or haven't done in a while. And it's okay for the next three months. I'm going to get good at this lift. And you see crazy gains. Do you guys all remember those?

Was that the first like, like, an aha moment for you was a lift? Yes. I think it was front squats. Mine was inclined, incline barbell press. Oh, because you were always flat benching. Yes. Yeah. And I remember, and I would intermittently do incline,

but never consistently because it was embarrassing. I mean, I was, because I could, I could work out with two plates on flat bench. all the time consistently. And then to go to an incline and have to drop it all the way down to like 135 was just like, no, you know what I'm saying?

Well, yeah, it took me so long to see two wheels. You know what I'm saying? That was like a long time of benching for me was to get to two plates. And that was such an accomplishment and that took me to get there that going over to inclining and having to see myself go all way back down

to one plate was just no. Especially because nobody bragged about it. incline back then. No. It was like, how much you'd be back? Yes. Yeah. And so, of course, you're going to talk about the way you can bench so much more on. And so I remember when I made it a goal, like, you know what? I'm going to focus on that and the gains that I got from that. And essentially it was just prioritizing it and making that. Yeah, it was just new, yeah, I just said, hey, I'm no longer going to flat bench. I'm going to incline bench. And I'm going to do it until it catches up to my flat bench. And it eventually did. And I met the, the aesthetic gains,

the strength gains. What was great was, I was still just as strong on flat. I didn't lose my flat. bench strength. That stayed, that remained the same. And I caught up the incline bench. And I saw all this gains aesthetically from, and I was like forever sold. Like, oh my God. It's just, you just had to get over that mental hurdle of, I mean, another example. And I think you've brought this up when you first started doing like windmills. Yeah. Like, you know, how humbling that is just doing, super humbling. Yeah, holding a little five pound kettlebell or something the very first time you do that. You know, we recently have done, on the, the Instagram social media team did a thing that we all did. I don't know how much you guys looked at all of ours.

Mine hasn't gone up yet, or it will probably by the time this airs. But it was the March Madness of the exercises. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. We're all really, really similar. But there was a few, there's a few things that were different. And one of the things that mine was different than both of yours, I actually put the, I put the Turkish get up higher. It didn't make it all the way of the end, but it made it further than what it made for both of you guys.

For functional reasons. Yeah, and also nobody gets good at that. Yeah. Like, nobody goes, I'm going to get really strong at that. It's always novel. And I'll tell you something right now, both men and women can get pretty strong on that because it involves the... You did it for a second.

Yeah, I did it for. There was a minute there. Oh, man. And you get huge benefits. Yeah. Because it incorporates the entire body and requires so much core stability, so much lower body strength, so much shoulder stability and strength.

And the carryover, the gains you get from that, I think, to a lot of things is so big. And it's just, I feel like it gets shit on as an exercise. It's funny, yeah, we're talking about this because that became kind of a bit of a chase for me, this whole newbie gain thing. Because I went in the unconventional world. I was always looking for a different tool that was out there that was going to provide. Because what started it really was the kettlebell itself. Like I was doing conventional lifts forever and I was like working with the football team and just working on PR numbers and all these things to put up on the board. And then I worked out with a guy and he took this this one kettlebell as gold.

It was like 115 pounds or something. And he just puts it up like right over his head like it was nothing. And I was just as strong as the guy with all the conventional lifts. And I pick it up like, uh, and it basically like fell. And I was so pissed off. I was like, why is that so easy for him? And then I just incrementally like just chipped the way at it, chipped the way at it. And then within like, you know, a couple months, I was putting that up.

And it was just like, it was wild. But it just kept proving itself to me time after time when I would pick a new direction. Like I'd take the mace bell and I'd start working on that. And then you'd see these rapid gains again. Now, I remember, you know what? It's funny. I just remember as we're talking. I'm like, was it the front squat?

It was the reverse curl was the first time. A reverse curl. It was a reverse curl. And it was because I read a bodybuilding article that in order to get a thicker bicep, and this is the way they explain it. It's not quite what happens. But they're like, you need to train the brachialis, right? You get the bicep on top.

Brecalaus is this flat muscle underneath. And if you develop that, then you'll get like this thicker looking arm. I'm like, well, I'm standing straight in my t-shirt. Like, I'd like to have some thick biceps. I was a kid. I was like, I think 16 years old. Thicker looking. And it said, do hammer curls and reverse curls?

And so I went out in the backyard And I grabbed my easy curl bar And I had it already set up for when I did curls It was always set up that way And I went to reverse curl it And it was like my wrists were just they folded And I was like, I can't do this So I went lighter

And I started practicing it and it did develop my arms But it wasn't necessarily the magic of the exercise Although that's part of it The big part of it was It was this novel movie It was curling with a pronated grip And I became I fell on this now to this day You guys hear me talk

about the reverse curl. That's where it started. Yeah. Was I picked up this exercise. And it's great. There's so many movements out there that people avoid or don't do that are established lifts. Like, here's another one. For a long time, for a long time in the 90s, behind the neck presses for shoulders were very popular. They fell way out of favor because of the risk factor and it does this. Certification started to like show people away. And here's the deal. You definitely need more mobility and stability and control to do it behind

the neck than you do in front. Okay? So you definitely want to develop that first. But once you get there, if you always press to the front and you start practicing behind the back and you get good at that, watch the strength gains go through the roof initially.

Because you'll start with just the bar at first because you can't even get it there. Next thing you know, you're adding 10 pounds every single week. And then you see that on your body from an aesthetic perspective. There's also all the Zercher exercises. Yeah. All the Zer dercher deadlifts and squats,

which now I'm starting to see people, do a little bit. In fact, they're starting to come out with Zerter pads. E-press is another great one. It's interesting. You will suck at that when you first start that. Dude, totally.

And so it's like, you know, here's another one that's really good. I remember we saw our friend, what's his name? Powerlifter. Ben Pollock? Yes. I mean, this guy could squat 700 pounds.

Super competitive power lifter never did split stance exercises like lunges. Yeah. Because he's a powerlifter. So he competes bilaterally. And you could see him with like, 185 on the bar and it was hard for him.

And it's not because he's not strong enough. I mean, he is not strong enough, but it's not because his muscles aren't strong enough. He just doesn't. He doesn't do that movement. His central nervous system isn't adapted to it. And so he started practicing and you better believe that contributed to his bilateral squat and his leg development.

And so for everybody listening right now, you may have a body part or an area you want to develop. Look up exercises, especially old school ones that you maybe never do or you do occasionally. And then what you can say to yourself is, I'm going to make that one of the primary lifts for that body part for the next three months. This is for experienced lifters.

Watch what happens to your progress. You know the problem with sending people to go look that up is typically what you'll do is you'll look up the best movements for that exercise. And it'll come and the articles and the stuff that you hear on social media will be, what does the research say is the best exercise? and that they're probably doing those.

It's the ones that you're probably not doing. It has to be one you're not doing. And you have to understand that this is, I mean, this is an argument that we always make, I feel like, and we always get pushed back about this when we're ranking stuff. It's like, if you've been doing this same movement, say like a bench press forever,

yes, we know that bench press is like the overall best exercise for your chest, but if you've been doing barbell bench press forever, then exercises that would be considered inferior to that become better, superior, level. And so even though that's the best to get you going, but you've been doing that for two years consistently, like three days a week. It's like you've gotten so good at that. You've reached almost the max benefits from it. Simply going to something you totally suck at, even though it's an inferior exercise in a standalone study, it becomes a superior exercise because it's so novel to you. And so don't just look up the most popular three exercises. EMG or something like that. Yeah, it's like, look, just do a movement. What I get to do is our old time strength program.

Right. Oh, gosh. There's stuff. I mean, we haven't talked about it in a long time, but like it, only because of what you guys are talking about describing, there's like a progressive way to achieve that lift at a high level. Like there's a way to, you know, learn it, like acquire the skill of it, get good at it. And then, you know, you could bring that into the arsenal when you get back to

your regular programming. You know what? It's even true, though, for exercises that aren't so different. I know that you could be, this was me. Well, you just, I mean, the front squat's an example of that. But even more similar. Like, you could be so good at a flat bench press with a barbell and never do dumbbells. And go grab a pair of dumbbells start pressing.

Yeah. And you're way weaker. Now, typically you'll dumbbell press less than you total weight than you can with a barbell. But it's within range. It's somewhat close. But if you never dumbbell chest press and all you ever do is barbell bench press, then you go try using dumbbells. suddenly you're like, oh my God, I can bench press 300 pounds,

but I can't go heavy than 75 pound dumbbells. It's such a similar exercise, too. Go with the dumbbells, get good at it. Watch what happens to your chest development, your strength, your shoulder development, just because... And really make it a focus because a mistake that I think I used to make, too. Oh, you just throw it into now? Yes.

Throw it in and now, or it's the third exercise of the day. No, it's your focus. Yeah, it needs to become the focus. Like, in order for my incline to show me the results that I saw from it, it became the priority. Yeah. Like, so that's the tough part is because then people were like, well, wait a second. Everyone says that this is the best exercise.

So, okay, I'll add that other one in that you're talking about, but it's like the third one or the fourth one in the workout. By that time you're already taxed, you know what I'm saying? So allow it to be the priority and really get good at it and really get strong on it. And that's where you'll really reap the max benefits from it. It's not this like sprinkling in, which is the mistake I made. I would sprinkle it in. Well, yeah, I'd do that thing.

But I give your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, you're My example that too, even the woods not that long ago was just when we all first got together, you know, that was squatting and deadlifting for me. It was sprinkled into my routine. It was never a focal point. I never cared to be, you know, brag about my squat numbers or my deadlift. I was Mr. hypertrophy guy. That's all I cared about is what I looked like. And so I never cared to make that a priority.

It wasn't until we got together. And I was like, okay, I'm going to make this a priority and try and get really strong at my squat and my deadlift. Well, lo and behold, you know, first. followed the best aesthetic physique I ever had afterwards. And so... I remember that, too. You were adding, like, 10, 15 pounds a week to your deadlift. Every single week.

Both deadlift and squad. For months. It was like three months that this happened. And your body... And you're talking about, you know, 15 years into my lifting. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. That's the thing.

It's like, for experienced lifters, like, this is such a awesome hack. Now, what you don't want to do necessarily is pick 15 different exercise. I mean, you could do that if you want to. But I'll just do one. Yeah. Just do one for an area. you want to focus on or maybe a lifting pattern that you want to focus on and be like, I always back squat, I'm just going to front squat now.

Or I always conventional deadlift. Now I'm going to do sumo deadlift. Or I always overhead press to the front, let me go to the back. Or I always barbell, it means you dumb up. Pick that one exercise and be like, for the next three months, this is the first exercise I do in the workout for that body part. And my goal is to get stronger. And you'll see consistent gains for probably two to three months while you do that.

Yeah. And it's, and your body will look like you're making spring. Yeah. And it'll carry over to your regular list. Totally. I mean, that same hack on the, on the point of like a body part.

I remember, um, this was my, my big shoulder unlock. This was, I mean, I never had made shoulders a priority. It was like,

but I wanted better shoulders, but I never prioritized them above chest and back and all these other big muscles. It was like, until like I decided like, okay, this could be a focal point became the first exercise and the first thing I would do in the week.

It was just like, I'm, shoulders. It's going to be the main focus. And huge, huge difference. Crazy difference. Yeah. But it takes that there's, you know, I, and I remember how I felt. So I think that's a point I'm trying to communicate is I know the fear of letting go of

something else or the fear of making something else, putting it on the back burner. Yeah, because you think you're going to lose games or, no, you won't. Yeah. You're fearful of, yeah, but I also don't want to lose my chest just to go get my, get better shoulders. It's like you're not. You're not going to, you're not going to lose that by prioritizing that. You've already gotten really, you've already.

reached, for most people, I've reached that, you know, that we're talking to has reached a lot in that, in this category. It's like putting your bench press now in the back burner to go after something else, you're not going to all of a sudden lose 50 pounds of strength in your bench press. All right. I, I looked up studies on red light therapy and acne, and I'd never looked, I knew that it had a beneficial effect on acne. It has a beneficial effect on skin across the board, right? Red light therapy. People are familiar with red light therapy. we have studies that go back decades.

It's very well studied for lots of different reasons, but for skin in particular. Like if you want healthier, actually looking skin, stronger collagen, less wrinkles, like healing scars, all that stuff, like red light therapy is remarkably effective. And I knew that it had a positive effect on acne, but I don't know just how much.

I looked up to studies. 45% reduction in acne when people were using red light therapy. And this was after four weeks. That's crazy. This is good news because acne, people who struggle with acne, this is a big pain of the butt for a lot of people. And most of the treatments are antibiotic-based or harsh on the skin.

Which being on antibiotics for that long. It's rough. Really rough. Really harsh. Red light therapy is just, this is a wavelength of light that supercharges mitochondria in the skin or whatever it touches. so you can shine it on different parts of the body too. But a 45% decrease in acne.

I actually think this is why brands like Drew have exploded and red light therapy has become so popular in the last decade is because of all the benefits, because there's lots of benefits to red light therapy. The thing that I think you see relatively quick, like instantly within doing a few sessions of it, is your skin. I mean, I've always communicated as like,

I almost feel like I've tanned or I have this glow. that you know, and you'll, if you've never tried it. Yeah, if you've never tried it. And you can tell a difference in a week. And you do three sessions of 20 minute sessions in a week, you'll see a difference. Yep. And so I, and you know how that works in our space is that, you know, if people can't feel it, you know, it's like, you really or see it. It's this tough to convince them how much it's working.

And, you know, I know it's, it's so, like all the studies on recovery and some of that's incredible. That's hard to measure that. It's just like, well, it's like, because I got good sleep or protein. It's just like, it's very obvious. It's like, I don't do this. I all of a sudden start doing this on my face. I see a noticeable difference within the first week of me doing it.

Like, okay, I'm sold. It's doing something. I'm just thinking, too, for parents with teenagers, because this can be rough for teenagers. Some kids just go through a stage of acne. And it's like, what do you do with your kid? Do you put them on these really harsh medications? Do you get a red light panel? You know, Jufe is the company we work with.

You get them a red light panel. Have them use it, you know, three days a week, 20, minutes and it's not chemicals, it's nothing, except if it's good for their skin. And it'll cause a, it'll show a reduction in acne. I know it's funny because like my oldest is really concerned about like boosting his testosterone for everything now. Really? Yeah.

I know. I was like, why? I think it's just because of social media and, you know, it's just being like thrown out there everywhere. And so it's like, yeah, so I'm having a lot of conversations with him about that. We talked about red light a bit as well. and, you know, so he's starting to use that. He's starting to use supplements and creatine.

And he's really kind of like, like starting to try to grab on. He's Jack, dude. For his age, he's got to be one of the most Jack kids in a school. He's definitely. Both your kids are going to be that way. You can see it. They got good genes, dude. And I mean, they're gymnastics.

Exactly. They have such a great foundation with that. Dude, totally. Did you see, I'm surprised you didn't bring this up. And you might have seen this already, Justin. Did you see the chimp civil war that's happening? What? Chimp Civil War.

Doug. What? Put Chimp Civil War and pull up news articles. Add that to your browser. So are we just going to go through all of the science fiction genres and just start throwing it out there like. Everything's going crazy. Minority report.

Sure, we got you. No, no. Check. So I want this up, this report, this, a news article up. Planet of the Eighth. So we can see, yes, try to cast it up there, Doug. So we can see what's going on. This is the largest civil war.

They're so vicious too. Have you ever, like, they rip faces off, they eat, uh, Oh, so it started out. Enemy chimps. It started out. So it's the largest civil war that we've observed in, I think, in decades, with chimp populations. Where is it out?

Is this in the wild? There's obviously in the wild. In the wild. And it started by, like, there's rival chimp sides. And I guess they killed, like, one or two of the males. Is this somewhere like the Congo or somewhere like that? Yeah, let me pull it up. I'm having a hard time casting here.

No problem. Uganda. Uganda. So I guess one faction killed a couple of the males on this side. So then this side retaliated. And then it spiraled. And then one of them killed some of the kids of the other one. And it just turned into like.

Spirled. Oh, yeah, dude. And it's like raids. They're just raiding each other back and forth. How many total, like how many chimps are involved does it say? Well, yeah, 200 chimps total. What? It sounds like.

It's like big old, they're calling it a civil. But one faction of chimps. chimpanzis killed seven adult males and 17 infants of a rival group. What? And then 14 more adult males vanished, bodies never recovered. Yeah. Yeah, this is brutal. Yeah, so you can see videos of them doing these rates.

Well, like, like a bunch of them would show up and just like attack. And we're observing when this happens. Yeah. Oh, yeah, dude. Wow. That's kind of easy, dude. I know. What's going on?

What do they find out? Well, what you wonder is that has it always kind of gone on? and then they just, we just happen. We've seen civil wars before. So that's why I could. Well, I know that like, so I've watched. Territorial. Yeah, as I say, like, I know they're like super territorial.

Even with like, where on the tree, they can, like, they could like certain, there's like. There's a high, yeah, there's a hierarchy of like where, where you are hanging out in the tree and stuff like that of like who's who. Apparently it says over there. It happens once every 500 years. What? So this is like, go back, go back. There was an article. Maybe it's like their equivalent of like a world.

Apocalypse. This is their world war. Damn. And we know that because we have what for five, like how? I mean, it's, I guess, what, I guess maybe, maybe, uh, recorded. Talked about it. Some observer. So rare.

It only happens every 500. Yeah, click on that. How do they know what happened 500 years? Yeah. Because like, it would, shut up, Adam. They use carbon dating. Yeah. I'm like, they, what they have, they have like a carbon stone from 500 and then a thousand

of the 1500 years because, I mean, if, I mean, that's kind of. And it remains. Oh, my God. What does it say? We just throw shit out there and people are just like, yeah, yeah. Well, scientists say it happens every 500 years. That must be true. Scientists say a lot of shit.

Because all I know is what Jane Goodall, but she was like gorillas, right? Yes. Yeah, I don't think she was with champs. But, I mean, there's definitely people observing the champs, but like to go back 500 years, who knows? Yeah, no. Yeah. Apparently, it's just rare, I guess. Let's just say that.

We know it's rare. I don't know if I. Did you guys remember that woman? Dang. It was like 20 years ago. Do you guys remember the story of that woman that owned a chimp pet? Just talking how to speak? No.

No, no. She let it sleep in bed with her. It was like her pet. Oh, yeah. A friend did like an almost. It attacked her, right? Oh, ripped her face off. It literally ripped her face off.

Oh. She gave it wine and Xana. Oh, yeah, yeah. Gave it. That's a great idea. Like it's her girlfriend or something. You were watching some like, soap operating out.

He's just like, roo, who ripped your face off. Was that really what she gave it and that was a reaction? Yeah, maybe Doug. You could like,

total opposite to what she thought would happen. Yeah. Oh, 2009. 2009. Yeah, his owner initially admitted to giving him the anti-anxiety medication in tea to calm him.

They're all wearing like cucumbers and face mask, you know. You take your daddy. And it just got hell of this. Just blew up in her. face. You bet?

Oh my God. Yeah, dude, it ripped her face off. Yeah. You know how strong they are? Dude. Yeah, real strong. Bro. What's the ratio?

Oh, no, that's a picture of the chip. You know what? That fact you brought up the other day about hippos and their muscle mass? Yeah. That surprised me, actually. That's crazy. Yeah, yeah. Dude, we, yeah.

If you give a chimp, wine and drugs, um, it's probably not. I kind of feel like that's, you're like, you're asking for it. Yeah, you're definitely opening up a. Something crazy is about the half. Is that her afterwards right there? Yeah. So she lived. She lived, but she had to have a facial reconstruction.

I mean, it messed her up badly. Oh, it ripped off her arms too. Yeah. Oh, that's terrible. Oh, my goodness. Poor lady. Yeah, not good. Now, not to make this weird.

Yikes. Not to, I know, because now it's all sad. Poor lady. That's horrible. All right, but not to make this weird. But just speculating. If at this point, it ripped her face off and everything, because he gave her one.

It's probably not the first time. she gave the chimp wine and stuff? Oh, no, apparently it would drink from long stem glasses and everything. Do you think there was other stuff going on? Like, do you think there was a little bit of a relationship? You know what I mean? So, you know that the Tiger King had like a follow-up and they like documented like people that took in like chimps and apes and all that kind of stuff? Oh, really?

Yeah. Yeah, I didn't last very long. It just creeped me out like too much. Where is he at? Where is the Tiger King? He's still in prison. Is he? Yeah, and he's talking trash.

It's really funny, actually. like he's, remember what of the anomaly that is? Like that was like that, like, that was like a huge thing in COVID and gone away. Yeah.

Just, it was just the perfect timing. There was nothing on TV at all to watch. That was like the only, you know, trash TV. There's so,

there's a lot of things during COVID that I think we forgot. Yeah. On purpose. I think our brains made us forget like some of the wildness. Tiger King carried us all through that. That was a very popular show back.

Yeah. Arguably maybe the most popular. Yeah. He's, Carol Baskin, dude. Dude, you remember everything about that. Yeah. Yeah.

He's not doing good. He's battling prostate and lung cancer. Ooh. You got a 20-year sentence. Joe Exotic. Remember he had a boyfriend, but he's like, I'm not gay. Yeah, yeah. He's the ultimate closer, you guys.

You guys, I don't even touch him, dude. I'm not going to try to compete me. Oh, yeah. You guys. Did you guys see the guy? Turned teams. I saw that this came pop up in my feet. Thadius, what was his name?

Thadius something. He was a personator of the guy from Hangover. Oh, Thaddeus, Vegas impersonator. Well, he's in Vegas. Yeah, he's in Vegas. Yeah, Thaddeus is his first name. He's, he, he impersonated the guy from Hangover. You know, I'm talking with a beard with a beard.

Who is that guy that? Alphinakis. Thank you. Yes. And he had just lost his job, lost his, like, relationship or marriage or like that, and had not, and said he looked like him, flies to Vegas and literally makes like a quarter million a year impersonating. him. Just wearing the same clothes. Yeah, that's him right there.

Glasses and all that. He makes $250,000 a year just doing that? Yes, look it right there. He put his job. He shows up in a party, dude. You'd be like, yeah. Oh, for sure. Like, everybody. Yeah, of course. Everybody's going, like, that makes sense. You got to respect, you got to respect the game. Yeah. Right? How much does he get paid to do that? Quarter million a year he made. What? Yes. And all he does show up to do. Yes. So if you read the article about it, it actually talks about like how much, like, his life has been a blur because of all the party and stuff. Yes.

He's just, baby. Hi, everywhere he goes. Speaking of impersonators, you guys saw that one guy. Remember how people were taking, there was a video taken of a guy in his car in Miami that looked just like Jeffrey Epstein? Oh, I didn't see that. You didn't? No. Okay.

So people were filming this guy, there were clips of this guy in Miami. It was Epstein. They're like, he's alive. Yeah. Anyway, this guy shows up and he's like, I'm not Epstein. What's his name? Something Pete. It's like Miami Pete or something like that.

Find out what his name. See what his name is. It's not Miami. I saw this video. Yeah. Miami Pete, I think his name was. Anyway, now Pete, he's saying, I'm not Jeffrey Epstein, but now people are saying, no, you are. And they're comparing pictures.

Oh, I see it right there next to it. Oh, Palm Beach Pete. Palm Beach Pete. He says he used to party with Epstein. He did say that? He's getting weird, bro. What if it is? Yeah, what a creep, dude.

So there was a picture of him with a private jet. And it's the same private jet as Epstein. I mean, that picture is. I mean, that picture. He actually is Epstein. But that's, stop. He doesn't look like it.

No, he looks enough. He looks enough off for him. So one, and I, I'm sure it's debunked, but like, there was like this video floating around of like, uh, so Woody Allen had like court side seats. I think it was like next game or something. And in place of Woody Allen was literally Jeffrey Epstein sitting there just like chilling like the camera. was on him and everything.

What was it? Exactly. I think it was probably an old video that they're circulating like it was like recent. That's my guess. But like I first I was like no, no way, dude. Like he's just popping up everywhere. Yeah, he's not dead. I mean, I don't, yeah.

That's that's up for grabs as far as I'm concerned. All those people they had arrested with that. Yeah. Zero. So many. Anyway, it's changed subject. So, you know, I got to bring something up because this just came to mind. because my cousin, I'm in a text thread with my cousins,

and he's like, oh, this sucks, dude. He goes just after the five-year warranty, it's like five years in a month after my stupid washing machine broke. Now I got to go buy a new one. So we started talking. I'm like, were appliances just, did they just not break back in the day? Because I can recall, like, appliances in my grandparents' house are like 30, 40 years old. Yeah.

That just lasted forever. Oh, I, you know, put our foil hats on with the, the, conspiracy stuff, I 100% think cars, phones, computers. Well, not cars. Cars break. Cars last way longer. Technology. They're right. Oh, 100,000 miles. They last right to their warranty.

And then they don't. Look at this. This is true. See, I told you. I looked it up. Appliances were generally sturdier, more durable, it had longer lifespans. Yeah.

In 1970s or 80s. Locker for profit margins. My last 20 to 25 years, many modern appliances are built with shorter lifespans. Yeah. That's what I mean, they're, They're intentionally doing that. Faulty parts.

Same thing with furniture. Yeah. You know, like old furniture. Have you ever picked up somebody who's like your grandparents of their furniture? They're heavy. Oh, my God, they're heavy. You pick up furniture today? It's like.

Yeah, IKEA shit. It's like fake hollow wood. It's like not even real wood. But real like old furniture was like carved in our, and that's so durable. We have so the one that we have in our, in our bedroom is over 100 years old. What is it? Our dresser. Oh, really?

Yeah. Our dresser, and we refurbished it. It was passed down from Katrina's great-grandma into the family. Nothing solid. Oh, we refer-it-it looks brand new and looks beautiful. It just, we paid to refurbish it, but it's like this sturdy, hard, like, solid, everything on it works perfect still. Wow.

You know, that's just the way it's built back there. You know what? I was reading up why they lasted so long, and it was because newer stuff today has all of this, like there's all these regulations on energy, like on how to conserve energy and what. and that makes them less durable. It was back then they were like, whatever. I would think things back then, too, were hand-built. Mm-hmm.

Were they? Yeah. You're talking about how many years ago? In the 70s, 80s? Yeah, maybe. I mean, I bet a lot of it was. But they lasted a long time, dude. My parents had appliances forever.

I mean, everything's done all machine and slapped together now. Like, with metal parts instead of, like, plastic parts or everything. And, like, yeah, they chants out on a lot of these hinge points where it's like the wear of just opening and closing doors. And it just... And I honestly think the same way we talk about how food scientists have come in and engineered food

to be so hyper-powitable, I think you have people that have these companies that have been around forever have come in and they're like engineered it to precision of like this is how long it needs the last. Yeah. Like if we want to... It needs to last right about this length.

Simultaneously, you have the repair business attached to it. Yeah. So, yeah. And that's the cars and like... You can see that from appliances as well. It's either that or it just not... You don't find it suspicious that every time you pay your iPhone off.

It's not a stretch at all. It's all of a sudden it starts acting up like crazy. I swear somebody, yeah, it was a lawsuit that actually like they won. Yeah. Maybe Doug can look at up. I mean, by the eighth time it happened to me. It was pretty obvious. The first couple you got by me.

Yeah, each update just slowly. Yeah. But I've had 12 of those things. And I'm like, by about the eighth one, I was like, wait a second. Every time I just finished the two-year payoff plan, it starts free. And then they figure it out, they just like change up the plugs in the way that, you know. Oh, when you put the chargers? Yeah, they get rid of it or it's, uh, look that up.

You'll kill me. Yeah, are they, yes, iPhones are designed with a limited lifespan through both technical software and marketing approaches, leading to planned obsolescence. Planned obsolescence. Yeah, iPhones simply become obsolete through a combination of slower performance, reduced battery life and lack of support of new software updates after roughly five to seven years. Yeah. Well, I mean, yeah, I guess that sucks.

Yeah. Well, especially when it's, you're talking, what is it up to now? Like a $1,300 or a $1,500 phone? Where phones are something like that now, right? Is that how much they cost? Yeah, they're over 1,000. What are they, Doug? What's an iPhone?

The new iPhones are kind of... I think you're like $1,500. Yeah, I think they're $13 to $1,500. Wow. Probably it's $13.50. What is it now? It depends on which one you're getting. The 17 Pro Max is...

$10.99 plus for the 17 Pro Max. But if you want more, like, data or whatever. Yeah, I was going to say, that's the best. bear. That's the base. That's the base of that. You know, we got, you know, we just got at home? What? Landline? Yeah. Did you really? Yeah, but it's not a landline. So my wife was like long cords.

Yes, so my wife is really trying to focus on figuring out ways to keep us from being on our phones. Yeah, okay. And in particular, a lot for the whole family, but a lot for herself because she's at home. She homeschools and it's like, you know, I want, it's such a pull. It's so easy to just get on your phone. She's very conscious of it.

So she bought a phone that you Bluetooth to your phone. You lock your phone and then that's it. And if somebody calls, it rings on that phone. Yeah. And since nobody ever calls. Yeah. Does he go off? And people know, like,

you want to get a hold of her. You call her. Yeah, if it's that important, you'll call me. Yeah, and it's got the cord. It's an old school with the cord. You pick it up. And so if I called her right now,

that's how she would answer. And we talk on the phone. And she'll tell me. She's like, all right, I'm turning my phone off. So I want to be able to get a helper. Huh? Yeah.

A pager? Yeah. Now, that was the beginning of, like, people get a hold of you all the time. I know. I know. We looked like a bunch of drug dealers. Everybody in high school had a stupid beeper. I had one.

We all had one for a minute. Just for a minute? I had one for a long time. Oh, so did I, bro. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I had one for a long time. What do we need it for in my face? Nothing.

Just my friends would hit me up. Just write code back with your girlfriend? Yeah. You know what I'm saying? One, four, three. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And your buddies's boobs? Boobes.

That one a lot. Yeah. Six-E-9, six-nine. Wow. Just a waste of time. Doug. Did you ever use a beeper? Never did.

He was too old for that time that it came out. Yeah. Yeah. How'd you guys get a hold of each other when you were kids? Walked and knocked on their poor. Pigeons. Hey, Mike Tyson still. Smoke signals, actually.

A bottle with a moment. Oh, yeah, that was a thing. You put the on the ocean. I hear that the schools are, I think California is trying to pass laws right now with the phones at schools. Yeah, my daughter, she has to put a phone on a fair day bag when she gets there. She does. Like literally a fair day bag? That's what they put.

My kid's school too. So like all the kids when they walk, how does that work? Drop them in. Like in the classroom or in like? No, as they get on campus. As soon as they get on campus. So there's like somebody there? You have to go ask for it if they want a message.

But you, they have someone like policing the entry to the school? And as you come in, give me your... Yeah, hand them over. And then someone's managing the thousand phones? I mean, I don't know how it all works out. That's why I'm asking questions for the two dads that have kids in high school. They got bags, dude. You never thought to ask your kids these questions?

Well, I don't know. I actually seen it. And they grab it and they put it in the bag. I don't care how they organize the business of it, Adam. I don't care. Doesn't that just strike you as like a lot? They keep it like next to the classroom that they're going to. And so, like, the bags there.

And then they, you know, each, I guess the teacher. is responsible for it. I don't know. And then passes them back out. I have no idea. Sounds like a lot of guessing over there. I've seen him do it. But I think it's great.

I think it's awesome. No, I think it's great also. You see kids. Otherwise, they're all with each other, but on their phones. Yeah. Hopefully kids will get back to like pranking the teachers where you get the universal remote

and you mess with the TV. Oh, no. That was a good time. That's what disrupting the class you look like now. Do you know what I taught my five-year-old, which I'm hoping he forgot, but we were in Legoland? You know, we're just having fun.

And I'm like, oh, this is going to be hilarious. Let me teach him this. Spittballs. Oh. Remember spitballs with a straw? In that, you're, dude. That is not a good thing to teach. Yeah, I bet Jessica's going to love that.

So we were shooting. We were kind of shooting them a little bit, you know? So I sort of flip boogers. Yeah. And then I, like, when I did, I was like, oh, man, I hope he doesn't remember this. It's just like he's not going to remember. Yeah, that's for sure what he remembers. You know, kids, this is a, yeah, for sure, going to remember that.

Anyway, I got to talk about Element because I really got to give them credit. Going on TV. Well, oh, yeah, they're doing an ad on TV. Yeah, they're going to be a commercial on TV. Yeah, there's, there's, I show up for two seconds. Yeah, I saw the clip. They're like, someone sent it. You're in the new commercial.

I'm like, I am. I looked at it. It's literally. No, it doesn't even say my name, bro. It's like a side of my, it's like a flash and then I go to someone else. Only person that's though, we'll know it's me and my mom. She'd be watching. That looks like my son.

Anyway, what they've done and you'll see, every once in while I see products or methods or whatever, completely shift in industry. But what they did is, It's crazy. They single-handedly completely shifted and changed the fear around sodium. It was Element. Element did it. But up until Element, everybody was still afraid of sodium.

It's bad for you. Don't have too much. Electrolite drinks had like a sprinkle of sodium. And people who understand electrolytes, like if you need electrolytes, if you're sweating a lot, if you're actually drinking this because you need the electrolytes, you need a lot of sodium. That's the main thing that you need. Not like 100 milligrams, but like 1,000 milligrams. elements single-handedly, because they were very brave.

They put a thousand milligrams per serving, and it crushed, and now everybody's copying them. Well, you know the origin story of that is Rob Wolf and his training and some of that. He was doing his jihitsu. He was strength training and he was doing other stuff. Paleo diet. Yeah, he was on the paleo diet. So, yeah, so he was, it was just completely depleted. And so, and then he looked at the space, nobody had enough sodium in the products.

So he went out and created it. And it's absolutely exploded. Everybody's followed up. Why do you think that, why do you think we still have some popular fitness influencers that shit on electrolytes then? I mean, I guess if you're comparing it to something like creteen, it's not like this miraculous. I mean, they don't even say that. They say, oh, this electrolytes are like waste of money. If they were to go down a list of supplements that are a waste of money.

No, look, here's a deal. If you're sweating a lot, if you're training intensely, if you're on a low carb diet, you're using a sauna. I would say even if you're on a whole food diet, if you're eating whole foods, most people do not salt their food. If you eat all whole foods, no processed food, you eat a whole food diet. And that's the only source of sodium that you get is through that and you train. Well, it's probably why, because those influences are all in those processed like protein shakes and bars and everything else. Well, here's a deal. Again, there are certain people that will notice radical improvements in the performance from using high sodium electrolyte.

You sweat a lot. If you're a blue-collar worker and you work outside all the time, you'll notice a big difference. If you're a low-carb or no-cob diet, you'll notice the keto flu, that was because you needed electrolytes. Or even just holding a little bit more intracillular water. Like you get a performance boost. But here's the other thing that, and this is the behavioral part of it. This is what I love as a trainer. You show me all the science you want.

I don't care. Here's what I see now in real life. I have enough family members that use Element to now notice that because they like the way it tastes, and it has no calories. Sodium is an ingredient in palatibility. So when you drink, when you put an element pack into your water, there's no sodium. Sorry, there's sodium, but there's no artificial sweeteners, no sugar.

There's stevia in there. But the sodium with the stevia makes it taste really good. Sodium is an ingredient palatibility. Here's what I noticed. People drink more water. Yeah. All my friends that use element. Did you guys have-

They all drink way more water now? Did you guys get your care package? No. The pink lemonade? Oh, oh. Oh, is that good? Yeah, yeah. You know, for April Fool's, they did the whole pink lemonade.

Oh, pretend. Yeah, yeah, the April Fool thing. But then obviously they did that to roll out and kick out the pink lemonade. And the pink lemonade is really good. Yeah, if you haven't had it yet, it's really, it's really good. Man, they've hit a home run. The pineapple one, the pink lemonade one, the grapefruit one. But here's why they crushed.

They crushed for two reasons. One, they changed the narrative based on the real data in science. The fear around sodium is totally overrated, number one. Number two, athletes that need it, notice a big difference. But here's the big one. Number three, salt is an ingredient in making things palatable. They have created a zero-calorie drink that people are like, I love the way this tastes. Now the company has exploded.

It is exploded. A lot of people drink element, not because they need electrolysis, like the way it tastes. Yeah. And it encourages them to drink more water because it tastes so good. I have, when I use my sauna and the hot tub. Well, then it makes, oh, yeah, for sure. If I don't, I will get a headache. Oh, I 100%.

If I do not do that, I will get a headache for sure. And there's also that, right? There's a huge, didn't we look this up recently? My stamina is terrible if I don't do that before. Like, I was hiking in Palm Desert. It was like, yeah, of course. Yeah, like, 85, 90 degrees. And I was just like, oh, die.

And then I drank one. It was like, it's always different. The last time we talked about, Elman, didn't you bring up or didn't we have Doug look up the variance of, the individual variants of people that actually sweat. Some people sweat a lot more. A lot, like a significant amount. It's like 10X for some people. Yeah, so which is also where I think they get these people, you know, like I asked

you like that are, that's like maybe you're somebody who doesn't, it doesn't impact you that much where there's a percentage of people that I guarantee it makes a huge difference. I know for sure I'm one of those people. I know this as a, as a trainer back in the day, one of the more difficult things, challenges that I would have with clients. Sounds silly. The hydrate. We just get him drinking off water.

Yeah. It was, and I remember as a trainer, thinking it was so dumb, but I saw it so many times, I'm like, this is a common issue. Had I had something like element, that for sure would have encouraged.

If I poured it, gave them a big thing of it in our workout. That's like crystal light exploded. 100% because it's a flavor. Totally. Yeah, 0.5 to 2 liters per hour during exercise. Wow. What a different.

For sweat. Yeah, yeah. Dude, I got a company. You're going to love this company. And you might have seen companies like this before, but my wife shared this with me, and I think it's brilliant. Doug, type in newly.

N-U-U-L-Y. This is one of the, one of many companies that are doing this. So this is a company that you could pay a fee. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. You pay a fee.

My niece does this. So I think, like, you can pay $99 bucks a month. Yeah, yeah. And you get six outfits a month. There's a ton of companies that do this. There's companies that do this, by the way, like, every month.

Stitch fix. There's companies that do this with high-end brands. So you can get like, you want like a $1,000 dress from, let's like a name brand. And they send you a trunk with, with all of so of that.

And you basically, you keep what you want, you return what you want. And you can get, you can get stuff that's used. That's like somebody who's, who's sent this out. So there's so many companies that do this.

But this is for rental. Yeah. Huh? This is rental. So this is, well, you pay, you should pay $99 bucks a month.

Yeah. You get six, uh, items sent to you. You pick whatever you want. Yeah. So, so here,

and my wife was explaining to me. And then she got on the phone. She told me, but I'm like, honey, do you spend that much per month on clothes? and we went back and forth. And she made a couple good points.

She's like, you know, there's a lot of things I'll buy. I'll wear them once or twice and they'll stay in the closet forever. She goes, something like this, I could have very few clothes in the closet. And there's different packages. There's one where you can do like three things a month, which is less. And you'll pick three things. They'll send it to you. Now you got three or six outfits or whatever, especially if you work in a professional environment.

Well, this is just like the one that this is what Mark Randolph talked about. Remember what it is? He gives the analogy of the girl and he talks about like her idea with that. You borrow my clothes. Yeah, you borrow clothes. I like the one where you, so you basically, you pay a monthly fee like similar. I don't know what the price was. And there's lots of different brands that do this.

And they send you a trunk every month. Yeah. And you keep what you want to keep and you. But they pick what they send you. No, no, no, you can pick too. Oh. Oh, yeah. You can, you can, they have a catalog like this and you go like, I want to try this,

this, this and this. And you get to try it. You can keep all of it. You can keep none of it. Provide like a tailor to you. Yes. And then, yeah. They actually coach you.

And so, and some of them are like these really high-end brands. So if you like want to like before you spend $1,000 on this outfit, you get it, try it on, wear it. If you like it, you don't. So when I was thinking about something like this, so let's say you did something. Because I after we got off the phone, because I kind of poo-pooed it at first when I was on the phone with her. But I thought more and more, I'm like, you, okay, you imagine you're, you are a professional. Like you work an office job and you have to wear professional clothes. Yeah.

Like you could, you could pay $90 a month. It's a write-off. It's a right-off. And you get six new outfits every month or whatever that. I'm like, this is kind of brilliant. I wonder how well these companies are doing. I mean, you have to know they're doing great because there's so many of them. Yeah.

I mean, I didn't know any of the ones. I didn't know that one, but I've seen, I've seen already multiple ones myself. Courtney's been doing this one for a long time. Has she? She does it? Uh-huh. Yeah. I bet are there any for guys probably.

Yes. Yeah, there is. There are. I haven't done it because I'm kind of partial to buy my own shit. I don't have, like, I wouldn't wear six different outfits every month. I just wouldn't. Yeah. Yeah.

Adam would. No, yeah. This is not my style, though, to do it. Yeah, I don't, I, I prefer to put my stuff together. Yeah. Yeah, like, I'd rather go pick, pick, pick, mix match. That's all the fun, right? Yeah, and it's also like, it's also my, no, it's my style.

So, like, I don't want somebody's styling. And you put your clothes on your bed. Well, you know what's interesting about that? Yeah. I look at people in two different ways. So you're either a Pandora person or you're a Spotify person. Oh. That being like, I'm curating my playlist and I have somebody else's curating for you.

Yeah. Yeah. Versus just, oh, hey, feet, spoon, spoon. need it to me. Yeah, I'm a Spotify person all day long. It's the exact same thing too. Yeah, I want to, I want to pick. So do you do that before work? Do you put like on your bed? Do you put like your shirt and your pants? So I always. This is the day before that you do? I don't always do. Especially now the way my closet is I don't need to because the way it's organized. But I try to do that

because what I, it saves me time in the morning. Yeah. If I lay my outfit out the night before, I do. Then it like saves me 15 minutes. Otherwise, what will happen sometimes is I go, Ah, what do I feel? Do you spend a lot of time on like your outfit for the next thing? No. Definitely. No, no, no. It's literally... Sometimes the morning I'll look at, but no, then I'll change it. Yeah, I try. It makes a difference when I do it. Like, it saves me time in the morning.

I'll get to work 15 minutes early by having it already laid out. It's been a huge hack for me. Yeah, it is a, it's a hack. You know, it's my favorite thing is that, uh, and I'm... Does your mom still lay yourself? Yeah, sure. I'll have her come over. Mom's face time.

Is this a good mom? Should I wear her to, my wife won't do it for me. I wish you would. We go to, like, functions, you know, like, like, family functions. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And she's like, she knows what she's wearing and everything. And I'd be like, what am I wearing? She's like, I don't know.

Damn, girl, like, you're supposed to pick up my clothes. I don't know what I'm supposed to do. I do you pick her clothes on. You know, I can't even compliment my wife. You just complimenting yourself. You really put together. Yeah, yeah. You look.

Honey, she's yesterday. I told her I said, you look hot. You look hot yesterday. She's like, you're only saying that because everything I'm wearing is everything you. Dude. Dude, how funny was that yesterday? I do a good job. What were we talking about where Adam is like low-key,

tried to get us to compliment him. Remember yesterday? It was about knowing the business number so well. He said a couple. His number sometimes perfect. First it came out and I already thought it. I'm like, wow, that's pretty interesting. I was like thinking about it.

I was going to say something about it. And you said a couple comments because you were like, can someone like recognize that I accurately? I gave. And finally he said it. He claimed both Sal and Katrina. Sal and Katrina both claimed that they were going to say something. I mean, bullshit you both were.

I gave you plenty of. opportunity you're like damn bro you were so brilliant I can't believe how brilliant you are I'd say that to you all the time dude he's like I'm gonna give it to myself go over yeah I was pregnant I love letting my three-year-old dress herself that's the best oh wow that's amazing that's funny what's like does she sometimes wear like galoshans and like bro she'll come out with like a two-two

and a rain jacket and like shoes and then she just comes out she's like ready to go So do either one of you see yourself and your kids when it comes to that type of stuff? Like, does one of your kids like totally not care? Like, you know, or there's one of your kids that, like, that's how they would dress is how you dress? Like, do you see that in either of your kids? My son, my five-year-old is kind of stereotypical. Like, he'll wear a shirt because he likes the, like, it's Godzilla.

Like, I'm going to wear this shirt or something like that. Yeah, yeah. My daughter, she likes that too, but she's eclectic. She'll go and, like, put her clothes together. and my son, you got to kind of like, go get dressed, dude. Like, you're in your pajamas. They'll put a shirt on. Oh, yeah, yeah, Max wore pajamas all day.

Yeah, dude. Yeah. And he's actually really particular about what he wears. Like he'll, he's, I think it's hilarious. Like you. Yeah, he's got that. It's like, Katrina always, grudge. He's like, your son is too much.

Like, I don't know, I don't want to wear that. It doesn't look good. It doesn't look right that. Or he'll tell her, go ask Daddy if I can do that. Really? Yeah, yeah. She'll call me in. She was, Max wants to know if he can wear these sweats with his shirt.

Yeah, yeah. That looks good. Then he'll go, okay, I'll worry. That's hilarious. And my three-year-old, she watches this show called Superkitties. So, like, these little cats that are like superhero. Have you seen it? Max watches it.

Okay. Yeah, yeah. All right. I'm not a fan of it. Why? It's a good show. It's a girl show. Yeah, it's a total show.

He's got two shows, that one. And then the other one that I don't like, it's like a kid. I'm like, whatever, dude. Let him watch it. You don't say that too, right? No, I don't say that to. I'm like, you don't watch it because we don't watch a lot. And then it gravitates that.

the things we can watch. That's what we're going to watch. Well, anyway, well, we'll play. I'll put EDM on and then my kids like to run and I chase them to EDM. It's this thing we've been doing since they were really little. But my daughter, it's, you know what it is? They'll wait for

the drop. They'll be like, they'll wait for the drop and then they'll take off. But my daughter will run, she'll jump and she'll land in this weird position and stay in this like down position. And I was trying to figure out like, what is she doing? The most Italian thing I ever heard. No.

Why is that a tiny? Chasing your kids to eat him. For sure, in his wife beat her too. I love you. That's so rad, too. Sorry. But she'll stay in this, like, down position.

I'm like, what are you doing? I'm like, oh, she's in like a superhero position. You know when they land? Oh, yeah. Yeah, and she'll just wait. She'll just sit there away. I'm like, what are you doing? She's like, I have superpowers.

All right. Let's go. He made the mistake of, like, I remember when I, like, doing something that they love, that you're like, now you're just trapped into doing it all the time. Yeah. You know, like, I did this. I remember when I finally grew out of it because we did it for, I don't know how many years. But at one point, we had like those little, you know, kind of laser light things that they were part of some Christmas thing or Easter.

I have no idea. But we had them laying around. And I put on music in the closet and, you know. Oh, and I get you know what dance party. You know, we had a dance party in the closet. It was like, oh, God, I had to do that for every day for at least a year and a half, two years. And I remember like, God, let this trend end. He's like thought it was so cute and fun when I did it the one time.

You know what I'm saying? And it became a thing like all the time to do that. Have you figured out like a lazy way to like play? Yeah, when you lay down and play with it? That's like the whole building fort thing. It was like great. It was like such a hack, you know, like on the weekends. We'd like build fort every weekend, every day.

And then it was just this huge mess in our living room. Oh, with like couch cushions and stuff? Yeah, yeah. And everything was all, yeah, disheveled. Yes, dude. And I love it. because they were like, would they be sitting in there, you know, like color in or whatever? Yeah, dude.

Oh, it's a blast. I love doing that stuff. Can't hit on it. Yeah, it makes a big mess. But, you know, like this morning, I was, uh, my son and, uh, my wife were eating breakfast. And he's like, Bub, blah, come here. I want, I want you here. And he wouldn't let me go to work.

He's like, give me a hug. No, stay here. And I'm kind of like, oh, I got to go, buddy. And she looks at me. She's like, he's not going to be doing this forever. Like she reminds me. Oh, there's a, I saw this. He's not going to, it's true.

I saw this great clip on Instagram to your point you're making right now and it was an exercise that we all should do and it was basically pretending to be the 75 year old you writing a letter to the 46 or whatever you are right now about your day and everything like that

and like that's the letter goes like you know start it from the morning get up you know my son comes running in and jump and like in writing a letter to yourself of all these things in those moments and it's just like there's obviously going to come with time when like he doesn't run in your room anymore and jump on your bed. And it's like, you may find it annoying sometimes

when it's 6 o'clock in the morning and you just want to sleep. It's like, there's going to be a time when you're like, man, I wish that was happening right now. When it's like... Giving tree, fuck, man, kills me. Kills you. It's so depressed when I heard that. Even just hugging and holding your son at some point

or your teenage son isn't going to want to like just hug dad all the time. Yeah. So I sneak him, dude. Do you still do? Or does it turn into wrestling though? Yeah, probably. Who are the two boys? Who are the two boys is most likely?

to cuddle up next to you and watch a movie? Everett. Everett is. He's the youngest. Is it just because he's the youngest or is you, or is. Yeah, he's, I mean, we hang out probably the most, like, he's most like me in terms of, like, what I like to watch on TV or, like, what I like to do. So it's, yeah.

But, you know, I'll find my way. I actually, personally, like, go into Ethan's room the most. Like, I go in there to try to, you know, get in his world. But we're not, like, I'm into a lot of what he's into. but like it's just easy. Like ever, it's kind of always just there. Do you go into Ethan's room and like, like,

just have to sit there a little bit and wait for like, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But I mean, he's, it's a lot easier now because I've been consistently more like, you know,

kind of inserting myself into his world in there and trying to understand. But yeah, it's, it's taking work, dude. Like, because it comes, it was funny because it comes easy to Courtney and him have a real tight relationship. And it's, you know,

and they've had that ever since he was like real little. So it was like, Like, do you attribute to that? Because was there like a moment in like time where you felt like you had to, you consciously went like, oh, I need to like actively go. Yeah. Seek that. Yeah.

I felt it. You know? Do you remember what it, what, how old he was or like at what point you had to like really start doing that where it's like, oh, wow, if I don't start doing this. Probably 14, 15 years ago. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Because they start hanging out on their own. Yeah. He just started. Yeah. Once he started isolating himself in his room, that's where I really started to kind of come in. I'm sure there's probably a little bit too. Like you, there's a part of you that wants to give him. space, but then at the same, so you probably, you probably wrestle a little bit with that

initially. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I didn't want to intrude. Uh, I tried to, yeah, come in, like, and just ask him questions and, like, try to be excited about what, if he's working on something or if he's, like, playing a game. Like, that's the thing, too, about, like, you know, it's, it's a hard thing to balance when it's, like, you want, like, exactly what's perfect, like, in terms of screen time or, like, if you're playing video games or you're doing this or, but, but, but also too like you know you want to understand they have interests and then like peer into that why why do you like this and then he explains the whole thing and then it's it i don't know it gives it a little more um context for me it's crazy because when i was a kid so i never had a relationship

with my dad where we like talk like we sit and talk about things right and i remember it wasn't actually not that long ago i was talking with somebody and it hit me like a like a truck i was like my dad used to take me to work with him and make me do work with him because that's how he bonded with me. He didn't know how to bond with his kids, with his sons in particular any other way because that's what he knew as a kid, because he worked. And he would take me out to the backyard. He'd take me out to go on construction sites to work. And that's how he bonded with us. Because there was a period there when I wasn't helping him.

How much can you help your dad when you're 10? More than anything, I'm kind of getting in his way. But he took me anyway. And it was because that's how he knew how to bond. which is not what you think when you're 10, you think he's like his burden. Or he just wants me to learn how to work. Yeah,

yeah. In reality is my dad's attempt at bonding. Sure. With his kid. I remember when it hit me like a truck, I was like, oh, dang,

that would be really, yeah, I think about this a lot because I have, because Max is only going to be seven, right? So like, what's he going to be like when he hits those teenage years with the way he has, his relationship with Katrina and I, there are certain things that I'm,

like, I think I'm, that's obvious, right? Like, I think when, uh, when it comes to like emotional stuff or where he's sharing

something I think probably he's going through. He's more likely to probably go to his mom. I have a feeling that the... I don't know, bro, because you're pretty good at that. You're pretty good at talking to guys in that way. I think when he's a teenage boy, he might want to talk to dad. I don't know. That's why I think about it a lot.

It's a good point. I actually got closer to Ethan as he became a teenager. Because he didn't want mom's advice in a lot of other directions. And you're not like a kind of guy that's closed. Yeah, I know. I'm definitely not, and we're super tight, right? So we're super tight and close. I just say that because I think I noticed, like, for example, when he went and did the soccer thing, he was expressing to his mom, he was concerned that she, that I saw him cry.

You know what I'm saying? So it's like, so there's definitely a side of him that's more open to showing the vulnerability and the, and being okay with that. Where I'm like more trying to get him to dust it, you know, dust it off and keep going. There's no reason for us to cry about that. Come on. keep going type of deal. And so I wonder if when it comes to things like that, that he's more emotional or scared or about,

will he be vulnerable enough to share me or doesn't want to not show that side? So it'll be interesting to see that as it unfolds. You're right, though. I mean, I feel like I definitely... Yeah, you're not like, you're not going to be one of those dads that's like... No, I communicate with him. Yeah, that's your personality.

And we're very, very close. And so, but I do expect that there's going to be, at some point, he's going to gravitate to each of us for different things, right? Like, I mean, I think we'd, both are close to him, but it'll be the one-on-one time is super important because there's a dynamic with the family, which is good, but there's a different dynamic when you, like I just experienced it with my daughter and my, even my five-year-old, when you go off with just them, no, 100%, it's a totally different dynamic. This is something that we try, we've, we've continued

to foster since he was very little, you know, we call Boys Day. And, you know, probably once a month. I really just calls it just the men's. Yeah, yeah. It's a dedicated day that, that it's just him and I, you know, stuff, and we do, we do. And so my goal is to always maintain that, you know what I'm saying? And if, if I do, hopefully do a good job of doing that as he ages, that it keeps that. Did I tell you guys what, where I always to start? I, like, I have to, like, walk him back because he likes to do this thing will he, like, jump on you out of nowhere. And I love it. He jumps on me to nowhere. We wrestle. He does it to his mom and he hurts her. You know, because he's getting big now, right? He'll jump on her and she gets, you can't do that to me.

And so I tell him, like, you can't do that to your mom. Yeah. You can't do that to your older sister, because my 16-year-old who'd do it to her too. You can't do that to, you know, our niece, who's 18. I said, you know, you can do that to me. I said, you've got to be more soft and gentle with women. So now, of course, she's like, you know, mom, women are weak. So I can't do that.

Well, that's not what I said. That's not what I said, dude. I can't jump on your mom because women are weak. I like Katrina, she puts the brakes on that real quick with him because he'll do that. He'll get like that. He'll show, hey, you do that with your dad. You don't do that with me.

She stops it really fast. Like the roughhouse stuff, that's your dad. You don't roughhouse with mom. You know what I'm saying? So she's stopped that early on like that. I don't say anything. I had to talk with him to him. I'm like,

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Gen 13, does strength training when you're pregnant correlate to strong babies? Yeah, this is a great question. So I actually looked up studies on this. There's not a lot of studies on this specific thing, but there are studies on health. And what they find is when mom is fit and healthy, when she exercises, babies tend to be healthier and more resilient. Now, there is some evidence, very little, but some evidence. You have to be programming those epigenetics.

I would just, so we'll get there because I agree. I'm going to speculate there. But there is some evidence that if you train for endurance or for strength or whatever, that you may actually create a child that is more of those. Pass on the adaptations. Adoptation. Personally, it makes sense to me. Because, okay, so we have good evidence on this.

What a mother will eat will actually influence a baby's palate and what foods they actually start to crave. It makes sense because. when the baby's in utero, it is adapting to what potential environment may come into. Okay. So really stressed out mom, baby becomes more hypervigilant, right? Calm environment, baby becomes more calm. I believe that if the mom is strength training, the signal that's being sent to the baby is we're going to be lifting heavy things. Whatever the environment that we're being born into requires more strength.

So we're probably going to need to turn on the genetics or move the genetics in a direction. that contribute to more strength. So I definitely, I would, I would, I would, I would bet money. I believe this. I 100% believe that this plays a role. Both the nutrition, exercise. It doesn't override like overall genetics. I also think to, I think to what you said about common stress is, is paramount too.

Yeah. Oh, for sure. They know that. I think, I think, I think, uh, main and maybe arguably even more important than being strong during your pregnancy. it would be maintaining, you know, calmness. And like, I just think that plays a huge, a huge role in the kid. Well, just seeing, too, like how the mother's milk changes, like,

depending upon, like, their needs and, like, their deficiencies and all of that. It adjust on the fly. So if it's that wild. Yeah. When a baby's sick, the, it's like the body senses it when they put their mouth on the It's different from the morning to the night. It's different. I mean, that, you know, that's not out of the question to think that, you know, they pass the line.

But I'll say. this. So here's the, I guess the hesitation, right? Don't think as a mom, like, I'm going to go crazy with strength training to produce this like super, you can very easily overdo it. It has to be appropriate. And we talk about this all the time with strength training during pregnancy. And you're, the PRs and that happens before pregnancy. Maintaining. During pregnancy, you're training in a very smart, appropriate way. And the main thing you should focus on is, is this going to help me with my. delivery and my postpartum recovery. That's the most important thing to consider with your

exercise routine. Next question is from Cornell FG82. Do you lose an adaptation when you start a new phase with a new focus? Yeah, to an extent. To an extent you do, not a lot, but, or not all of it, but if you always train, let's say, in the one to three rep range, and then you move to a phase where you're training the 20 rep range. Will you lose some adaptation to that one to three rep range? You will because there's a skill involved. Percentage of it. Yes, for sure.

You're not losing a ton of it. So small, though. I mean, this is kind of the conversation that we had earlier about, you know, encouraging people to do novel stimulus. Like, there's this fear, and this is where this comes from, of like, you know, if I stop, you know, focusing on, you know, bench press and I go do this, you know, dumbbell, you know, incline press all the time, will I not be able to bench press very well?

It's like, I mean, you might see a small for temporary. As soon as you get back to that, you'll get that and some back. So there's a small step back, but it's very, very small. And it's in pursuit of taking two steps forward, you know? Yeah, and exactly. I think this only matters if you're training for a specific lift or a specific type of sport. Like you're going to compete and your lift is the squat. You might not want to move away from that particular squat, at least not before competition,

because you want to lose any adaptation to it. But I mean, I experienced this recently. I recently started deadlifting relatively regularly. I'd say like once a week or once every the week. And when I'm feeling pretty strong with my deadlift historically, I'll pull 550, 550, 560. My best was of all time was 605. But 550, 560, I'm doing pretty well. And I hadn't deadlifted for a long time.

But I was doing box squats. I was doing lots of other exercises. So I started pulling again. and within, I don't know, like five weeks, five or six weeks. I was up to be able to pull 550. I was able to get it back up there. But week one was like 500. So there definitely was a difference in my ability.

Sure, sure. Next question is from the FitLife lawyer. How effective do you think a workout program written by AI is? This is a good question. And this is becoming more relevant by the day. I seem to hear you. Yeah. I think the, so this is, it depends.

on how savvy you are with AI. Yeah. Because I think that the prompting, this is what we talk about, too, the future of using AI, it has hinges on your ability to prompt it. Yeah. Because I've seen terrible advice come from AI. And then I've seen wonderful advice come from the AI. Your bias dictates it.

Exactly. And so if you, uh, don't know how to prompt it correctly or, uh, really, like, just simply saying like, produce me a workout, blah, blah, blah, blah. If you do a generic prompt like that, then you're going to get a generic workout. But if you know how to prompt it really well, like 49 year old female, I've worked, you know, this many hours, I sleep this much. Right. Here's my hormone. I have a bad hip or whatever.

Right. Then you might get better. You're feeding in a ton of data. Yeah, very specific to you. It's awesome. I've played around with it and seen what I can do with it. It's, but I'm prompting it. And I'm prompting it from the perspective of a trainer's mind.

Yeah. And so I think you can get. great stuff off of it. You know, here's the thing, too. I mean, you can get free workout. You've been able to get free workouts online for a long time. So I don't think this is like some huge. It's not a breakthrough.

No, it's not. It's better than you guessing, I guess. But here's what it won't do. It will not replace a personal trainer. The value of a personal trainer is not that they write you a good workout. That's not the value. That's like one little thing that they do. The big value is their ability to guide and coach.

you and adjust on the fly and know how to guide you like a smart guide taking you through this journey of fitness. And until AI is indistinguishable from a human and looks like a human and gives you that same contact and connection, all that stuff, it's just not going to come close to it. By the way, too, I mean, I'm on this kick ever since I heard that interview with the diary CEO. It's not really AI who's writing that program. It's the internet's ability to scour the internet of all the data of other smart trainers that have put out all this information. and it's aggregating all that and giving you a smart and dumb. Yeah.

That's it's, it's a, it's just, that's what it's. So you could technically, to your point, Google search and find, right, before AI, a good workout program. That for free, 100% you can. So that's how the, the AI got it from that. It's, it's scouring. It's rickered it off. Yeah. It's scouring the internet for you.

And it'll, it'll hopefully get you the good one if you prompt it correctly. If you don't prompt it correctly, it might just get you the, it might just get you the, the most popular, the most serves, or the most shared one. And so how you prompt it will dictate how good of a program that already exists on the internet that you will actually receive. Here's the deal. If someone asked me to write them a program and I didn't have the opportunity to train them, right?

So I'm not their trainer. I'm just talking to them. And if, hey, I'd like a good workout for me. I'm going to ask them a lot of questions before I can give them a workout. Yeah. I'm not just going to be like, here's a good workout for you. Yeah, exactly. You know, it's going to be like, okay, well, tell me about your lifestyle.

Tell me about your goals. What's your past history of exercise? What does your sleep look like? How about your diet? You know, what's your age? And then I'm going to write out a more accurate or appropriate workout for the, even though it's a general workout, that's going to be good for that. Well, that's what's interesting about AI too.

It's not asking you all those questions. No, it doesn't. You know, you have to literally insert that every step. That's what the prompting, I mean by that. That's the, like you. People don't know. They don't know what they don't know. Right.

You are, what you're alluding to is that your trainer brain knows what. to add all the right questions before if someone said i want give me a workout program to build the most strength you know and you you wouldn't just go like oh here it is yeah yeah and you would never do that you would go you know tell me about your sleep that's your experience yeah tell me about what you do uh during the day like what your work life look like what's your stress levels what's your calorie i mean you'd ask a whole host of questions and then you from those you would give the best generic workout program that you could give that person and so that the person that's prompting the i i needs to know those questions that that trainer would ask them

in order to prompt it efficiently to get something that is really good. And yes, you could if you knew how to do that. But if you don't, then, I mean, just Google search, you know, top 10 workouts. Same thing. Next question is from Matthew in this. With your guys, I've identified an imbalance in my hips that's throwing off my form during lower body exercises and causing back pain.

What can I do to correct this imbalance and stop further injury. MAP symmetry. Yeah, I was just saying without knowing the specific type of, like where the pain is, watching your technique and form, noticing the imbalance or seeing what the imbalance looks like, it's hard for me to give you specific, impossible for me to give you specific advice. That being said, unilateral exercise is a great kind of catch-all. It does a pretty remarkable job at solving these issues for people when they go to do

is unilateral exercise, start with the good side, and then try to copy that with the bad side. And then from then on, use the bad side. Well, it expose all the compensation. So it becomes more clear and obvious where you're instable, which you're going to be weak in those areas, which we need to strengthen. So, you know, it too, just like that split stance or, you know, just being able to control your body from that perspective, then you go back to bilateral stance. and it's like you're reinforced. So I mean, you're right. We don't have a lot or enough information

to give like precise or permit. But I'll give you some pretty spot-on advice that I think if you follow, you'll see a significant difference. And that is get really good at 90-90s and the discrepancy from the left to the right because what I can guess right away without seeing you do 99thes

is you're going to probably notice on one side. You're way more proficient than the other side. So work at getting those equally balanced out in your 1990s and work through maps. You do those two things, and I bet you we make a huge progress in this direction. Look, if you like Mind Pump, come find us on Instagram. It's Mind Pump Media. Thank you for listening to Mind Pump.

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