Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 288: Losing Muscle, Staying On Track, Training High & MORE

Episode Date: May 6, 2016

The THIRD Quah of the Week! Keep asking questions and Sal, Adam & Justin will keep answering them! In this Q&A they answer Pump Head questions about how to reduce muscle if you have too much (some wou...ld call that a quality problem), how to stay on track when knowing what to do and having the right tools isn’t cutting it, the benefits of training while high and the one thing they would change about themselves. Get MAPS Aesthetic NOW at www.mindpumpmedia.com Please subscribe, rate and review this show! Each week the best reviewers are announced on the show and sent Mind Pump T-shirts! Learn more about Mind Pump at www.mindpumpmedia.com.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, with your hosts. Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. Braided like my hair, Sal. Ugh. What? It's so creepy with Justin doesn't always do I mean? I don't know why, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:00:24 My wife tells me the same thing. She's like I was gonna have sex with you too. Yeah exactly. You creep me out, I'll put my clothes back on. Damn it. Hey listeners, I'm figuring it out. You're listening to Mind Pump. Is that what this is?
Starting point is 00:00:37 This is Mind Pump. Don't forget to go to Mind Pump Media.com to check out our new Super Bundle. That's Maps Antiballic, MAPS Performance, MAPS aesthetic, nine months of training. The superhero Super Bundle. That's what I just want to say. Bundle of Joy.
Starting point is 00:00:51 Bundle of Joy, I just want to say that. I'm not quite. Lots of Super in there. You are a bundle of joy. You're a bundle of joy. I'm a lot of joyous person. Steamy Bundle of Joy. If you were to define,
Starting point is 00:01:00 if you were to define me, would joyous be in the definition. I think I would use. Joveel. Joveel, maybe. Joveel. Joveel always makes me think of like someone who's that guy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:13 Maybe Jubellant. Somebody's a little fat. Oh, yeah, maybe Jubellant. Jubellant, what does Jubellant mean? It's like Jubellee, but it's Jubellant. Jubellant, is that a real? Yes it is. Doug, prompt, confirm.
Starting point is 00:01:22 Jubellant's word. I believe it means joyful. Yeah, Jubellant's word. They all fall on the same category there. That's the one for me. a real yes it is dog from two bullets word I believe it means joyful yeah Jubilee they all fall on the same catting way there yeah one for me yeah all right sometimes Adam says words that that that are better big yeah that was not a big word what I mean by okay okay hey don't forget to swallow the sore ass sometimes sometimes you say words
Starting point is 00:01:42 that are not when I may say big it it doesn't have to be a big word. It just means that the word is not used outside your lexicon. Yes. Sometimes you speak, yeah, you speak like you read the word. I know a little bit. A lot of times I just heard the word earlier that day and I just want to reuse it. And normally I can guess. When did you hear Drupal? Today, yeah, I did that today. Which is a breakfast at the breakfast with a very jubilant. The waitress? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:08 She looked jubilant. Juicy. Juicy Lance, not the word I thought. I don't. What's up with that post on your Instagram, dude? Have I marriage one? Yeah, what happened? Oh, you know, the flack right now.
Starting point is 00:02:20 You know what, lately, uh, I- What did you say exactly? I'm gonna pull it up. He said you're single, guy, isn't he? I've done a couple, I don't know which one you're talking about, but I've done a couple of them in the last week or two, whatever. And you know what, I guess it's been on my mind because everybody's been hounding me, right?
Starting point is 00:02:34 35 years old, Katrina and I have been together for like five, six years. Everyone's like, that's where this is coming from. Everyone's like, what is the fucking deal with Mary? I think, and you know what, here we go. I'm gonna piss some people off. Oh, here's what it says.
Starting point is 00:02:45 Yeah, go ahead. It says marriage, betting someone half your shit that you'll love them forever. No. Hey, it's fucking accurate for fuck's sake. I mean, in California, that's true. It is, you are accurate. You are betting that, right?
Starting point is 00:02:58 It is a bet, right? And that's what I think our whole, the whole marriage system is all fucked up. I don't think it should be that way. I think it should be more like a least thing. Like we're like five years, right? Now listen to me, hear me out here. I think this makes total sense.
Starting point is 00:03:15 And so far, he's fucking genius continuing. So, I'm gonna back out of this conversation. So just like, no, listen, you'll like this. I promise you, here's the deal. They even guys like you that are extremely happily married, right? And have an awesome wife, awesome family, and would and and guarantee that it was the best decision you ever made in your life. Okay, that's great. There's nothing wrong with that. That's exactly why every five years, everybody has to renew their lease. So at the five year, at the five year mark, which isn't back,
Starting point is 00:03:43 which is great for the two of you guys, because what do guys do high five go out to dinner and say like hey five more years Baby, I love you good for you, but the rest of us thoughts. Yeah, right the other the other 50% of the world. Okay The other 50% now at this we come up with a five year and we look each other we go, you know, it was good At a good time, you know, like that one time we went there. That was great, right? Our lease, our lease next has been good, right? At the one time we went there. Yeah, right, that was good, right? But, you know, why don't you do your thing?
Starting point is 00:04:13 I'm going to do my thing. We'll go our separate ways. And hopefully, you know, we'll run into each other again, right? And then- That's very deep. Honey, honey, why did you bring me flowers? Or your lease is up. I shouldn't have used a lease.
Starting point is 00:04:24 Just want to talk about- about leases of bad word. Your leases up. Lease sounds like it's a car, right? And of course, people are gonna be offending. Oh, is that last minute guy, you know? Oh, oh yeah. But it should be that way. Leases up.
Starting point is 00:04:35 I think it would save a lot of heartache, it would save a lot of money. I think people would be more honest, right? But and that's part of the marriage deal is that you have to renew the lease. You have, you have every five years. You should be evaluating and working on things, you know, that's just part of it is work in general, like people want to shy away from it.
Starting point is 00:04:53 Or all relationships are work. Or you can get married. So you're married, but you could still have sex with other people. I don't understand what that's not up to. So, this is why you work. This is why you, this is why you use the word lease. Why? Because I believe there should be different lease options for everybody very smart. So there you know, it's not I should I'd put a good me upgrade or well, if it's consenting
Starting point is 00:05:14 right? If you have a new car smell, you say here, listen, you know, I know, I know most the population does the five year lease, but you know, I'm thinking more of a three year arm, you know, I'm thinking of three year, three year, but we both have the option to have somebody else on our arm. And as long as I got just, it's like having new rims, in a sense. Yeah, I think, you know, and this rim job, this way, I feel like we all, everybody, even the people that are madly in love and and have different views with marriage, they, hey, guess what, good for you. You guys married forever.
Starting point is 00:05:47 You guys keep renewing your lace every five years. High five each other. Go out to dinner. That's great. But the rest of the world, I guess I had to retire the high five, by the way. You did. I did it. You know, I was like, what'd you just do that for me?
Starting point is 00:05:57 Yeah, why did you do that? You mean, you would high five her? Well, yeah, it was like something like I've got your sex and stuff. No, not after sex. I was like, yeah, it was like something like Oh, yeah, sex and stuff. Not after sex. I was like, yeah, it was something like that. I did that. You did that.
Starting point is 00:06:10 And I was like, why did you just do it? I don't go team after you finish. Go team, I'm going to be a huge rookie. You say, high five, I can't. I'm five. I finally made it work again. No, I mean, you can literally, you can go. You can, you know, you have on the least option
Starting point is 00:06:24 and say, you know, I will sleep with other people. And then you can you know you have on the least option and say you know I will sleep with other people and then she could say no and then you could say but what if you never find out And then she could say yes. Yeah, there's all there has to be a matter nobody knows. I see Okay, if you're point right we know that what is it's around 50% right is the divorce rate So yeah, yeah, you have half half just they end up deciding we don't like each other or whatever reason that doesn't work out. Then you have the other half of that half that probably lies and still infidelity is going on, right?
Starting point is 00:06:52 So then you have that. Yeah, because what percentage of the people that stay married are happy or want to do? So that's where I'm going. So then you have the other half of those people that there's no infidelity on them, but then they hate that person, but they have kids with them,
Starting point is 00:07:06 so they stay just because of kids. So really, the likelihood of you actually finding someone that you can deal with for the whole rest of your life for a very, very long time, I'm sorry, but the percentage is extreme. You sound so negative. No, it's not a negative thing. It's just that the whole marriage thing is backwards.
Starting point is 00:07:21 It should be that way. It's the same. So it's only negative because we all are in this system. We're all in this system that we all have decided that this is the way things are supposed to be. You find a mate, you like this mate, you love this mate, and you decide you want to have this family and go on with them for the next 50 to 90 years. So that's what you do.
Starting point is 00:07:41 90 years. How long have you guys been married? 90 years. 90 years. It's like, honey, it's only been 10. Like, I thought he meant how long it feels like a married. Yeah, it feels like 90. So that's, you know, it's a little backwards to me. And I think that for the most part, most people fail.
Starting point is 00:07:58 And then, and I guess that I'm sure I'm, I'm turning a lot of people off right now. I'm lost to quite a few people the last week on my social media, like I give two shits. You know, so I'm sure it's turning a lot of people off right now. I lost quite a few people the last week on my social media, like I give two shits. You know, so I'm sure it's offending some of those. You just got rid of the married people who cares. Yeah, you're right. There was a scientist, the social scientist.
Starting point is 00:08:14 A single lady is. That was explaining why he thinks, actually she was a woman, why she thinks divorce rates have climbed. And one of the reasons is because we redefined the purpose of getting married. It's like now, now when you get married, it's to fulfill you.
Starting point is 00:08:32 That's the idea that people have. Like I'm gonna get married and this marriage is gonna fulfill me. It's gonna make my life better. It's gonna make me a better person. And in the past, when you got married, it was either an agreement or a partnership. Like, okay, we're partners in this and we're raising kids and we're going to have this
Starting point is 00:08:50 house and that's it. And she said that what ends up happening when people go into a marriage looking for fulfillment is if it succeeds, it succeeds beautifully and everything's awesome. But the failure rate goes up quite a bit. So that was her theory behind why so many marriages. That's a pretty good theory. I can't remember the name. up quite a bit. So that was her theory behind why so many marriages. That's a pretty good theory. I can't remember the name, it was a scientist, yeah, behavioral scientist that was talking about this,
Starting point is 00:09:10 but her advice is, look, when you get married, first of all, you need to be able to fulfill yourself before you get married or understand that, it's not up to the other person to fulfill you. You fulfill yourself, it's a big point to make. Right, and when you get married, it's a partnership. This is another great point that I would like to make. Okay. Now we're all we're all 35 plus Doug 75. We have these we've been around for a long time. Doug keeps getting older.
Starting point is 00:09:34 He's crazy for Doug accelerated rate. We need you know, let though, but here's the dick of an 18 year old. If I were to and obviously because Doug Doug is Doug has a few more years on us. He definitely would be the best person to ask this question But if you were to go back and you were to look at yourself over You know your your last 40 plus years of your life and you had to say, you know Ten years ago. Are you are you? Are you the same man that you are today and ten years before that? What would you say Doug? The answer is absolutely not. In fact, I've changed so much over the years, even the past 10 years.
Starting point is 00:10:09 Which is crazy, right? So you're, tell everybody how old you really are. I know we fuck with you all the time. Can we tell everybody? You say only 65. No, just got social security. Stop it. No, I'm 50.
Starting point is 00:10:19 Okay, so. So here's a, here's a 50 year old man is still saying that. That's still sound old. We'll say 49. You look old. 49 49 and 39. But here it looked yesterday. But here's the thing, when I look at Doug, when I hear Doug speak, when I see how young and awesome he looks, you just realize you're looking at a brilliant wizard of relationships. And he understands these things.
Starting point is 00:10:42 And Doug, have you ever been married? Never. See? This is why I'm slowly winning Dunn over. The more and more Doug and I hear, he's like, fuck, you know what? You had him in the air a lot more like you know, realize. We sound like such assholes on here.
Starting point is 00:10:55 I'll tell you this though. I wonder if I should defend us, our people. The marriage thing, you can go back and forth in debate, you know, is it good, is it bad? For society, as a whole, marriage was created, I think for a reason. But the one thing that I will always support is family. And whether you're divorced or you're married and you have children together, if you work
Starting point is 00:11:18 together to keep the family together, that doesn't mean you have to stay married. That just means that you agree to work together to help raise your children and to turn them into healthy, adjusted human beings. That's what's important. That's the most important. I have a friend of mine who, he got divorced about 10 years ago, five kids, five children with this woman, gets divorced and it took him, it took them about a year, a couple years to make things work, but now him and his ex-wife
Starting point is 00:11:51 take all the kids on vacations. They do things together. They really co-parent very, very well. They have an excellent family. And I think that's the key right there. It's not necessarily the whole married. No, it's exactly, you see. That's the key.
Starting point is 00:12:04 And I don't want it to be turned into something where it's, you know, we're, so I'm coming off of I'm passionate marriage. Absolutely not. I don't like the title. I don't like the fact that there's governments involved at all. I don't like any of that. Call it a call it a lease. Like no, don't call it. I should never say where that's where I offended everybody. Right. No, I don't think I just think that all the things it stands for is amazing. Family, connection, loyalty, love, but all those words don't have to come with a piece of paper
Starting point is 00:12:33 and come with this whole title around it. You just, why can't you just love somebody that deeply? Why can't you just be that good of a man? Why can't you just have that strong relationship? Why can't you just be that family of a person? Without, you know, it's this, we've allowed that this title. Why can't you just have that strong relationship? Why can't you just be that family of a person without, you know, it's this, we've allowed that this title. And I even think the law in California,
Starting point is 00:12:50 I think if you live with someone, nine years for nine years, that's exactly, then it's like, then you're pretty much just as entitled to if you would have been married. So like eight, eight and a half years, like, honey, I'm gonna go live over here for a year. I mean, come back.
Starting point is 00:13:08 That's why you do that. Yeah, I get it. Shh. What? Finally it's here. Yeah. Quack, quack, quack, quack. It's some other fucking quack.
Starting point is 00:13:18 The Golden Eagle of Quack. Oh, quack. Give it to me, Doug. All right, our first question is from, I guess it's Machi Dog. Asking about the best set and rep range to lose muscle. Let's make sure you read that correctly. What the hell? What?
Starting point is 00:13:37 Did you say lose muscle? Yes, I did. Okay, so. I'm actually grad, whoever picked. You're what? I'm grad, that's grad. It's grad, but it's grad but it's kind of like Jubilant. He made it through high school.
Starting point is 00:13:48 It's so grad. I graduated. I'm so grad. Uh, somebody on the forum recently, we had one of our forum members. Who asked this question? Yeah, she is, you know, she's in a predicament right now, which I've come across before with a female competitor who is kind of in between body types, and what I mean by that is, so you have your figure, and then you have your bikini girls.
Starting point is 00:14:16 And a bikini look is much more like shape magazine or a very lean, thin, almost runner runner type yoga type physique exercise, right? And then you have physique, which a much more muscular, defined look, still not like body building for women, but it's a more defined muscular look on a female than what a bikini competitor is. So she finds herself right in the middle of that. So she stuck with this dilemma. Do I really press and I try and build a bunch more muscle on my body if I'm already very content and happy
Starting point is 00:14:48 with the muscle mass and lean mass I have? Or do I cut really hard and try and lose muscle so I can fit into this category of bikini? So this is kind of what probably... Well, it's an interesting question because it's rare to have anybody say that. However, the vast majority of people that have come up to me and asked me this question
Starting point is 00:15:06 were women. And typically, what I've noticed is it has to do with their legs. Some women do build a lot of muscle in their legs, in particular, the calves. So I've had a lot of women come up to me and say, how do I make my calves smaller. And sometimes women build a lot of muscle
Starting point is 00:15:20 and they lift weights and they want to shrink the muscle size so change the way they look. And losing muscles is a very difficult thing. and they lift weights and they want to shrink the muscle size so change the way they look. And losing muscles is a very difficult thing. If you're one of those people, if you're one of those fucking people that can build muscles super easy, you're awesome. It's awesome. If you can build muscle really, really easy,
Starting point is 00:15:39 it's very difficult to reverse that with exercise because when you have those genes for muscle building, almost any stimulation you do will make them bigger. I got a client that I train whose calves look like a pro bodybuilder calves, never works out his calves, ever. Now, if I told the guy, yeah, go long distance running because it'll shrink your calves. You know what's going to happen with calves? Look at bigger.
Starting point is 00:16:00 Yeah. So, it's a very, very difficult question to ask. I would say the only advice I would give is don't lift weights for the muscles, do more body weight stuff, focus on more yoga type movements, endurance type exercise, and hopefully, will body will adapt by shrinking semi-air muscle. What you don't want to do is not move, you know, because yeah, that would shrink muscle too if I stopped moving, but you would also compromise your health, you know, by doing that. Yeah, lots of movement, lots of low impact movement.
Starting point is 00:16:30 So not like crazy hardcore sprints, I would recommend like, elliptical or something elliptical for, you know, hours on hours as long as you possibly can, because the more you burn and the less you eat, the more your body is gonna have to atrophy, because it sounds crazy for us to even talk about this, because it's like, oh my God, please don't do this to your physique. But to each their own, some people don't want that. I do want to point out,
Starting point is 00:16:56 because we don't know who this person is, I don't know what they look like. I had a very similar conversation with Katrina, just like two nights ago, and we were talking about how much her physique has changed over the last like five six years and all the different things that she's focused on She's going through maps black right now, and you know She's always had these just amazing legs like she's always been known for her legs. She got great Lays she was a basketball player whole life too
Starting point is 00:17:19 So they look phenomenal even when she doesn't do anything with them, you know And if she trains them at all they just they get they blow up and the same thing So what she's now noticed with her arms is that was like her lagging body parts that she's been working on to try and You know bring it up to her legs and a lot of that we had to lay off of her training her legs as much as she used to love to because Guess what it's her strength. So you still let she love training all the time And they said tell her like man, that's your strength. You could not touch them for a month. And they still look amazing. So don't, don't train them so much. Don't train them so hard. Let's focus on all the other things that you feel or lagging. You feel like your, your arms, your shoulders aren't very
Starting point is 00:17:56 defined and this, that. So now that she's done that, now she's, she is in love with the way her arms look when she's really lean. But then she says to me, the other day, she says, you know, I think I'm going to start to back off my arms because I with the way her arms look when she's really lean. But then she says to me the other day, she says, you know, I think I'm gonna start to back off my arms because I love the way they look when I'm lean, but then when I put on extra body fat, they look bigger. They look bigger. And so I was like, you know, it's funny you say that.
Starting point is 00:18:15 And I said, you know, and you're right, they will be because you've built muscle and now you put fat on top of that. And so they'll look bigger than what they look when they're leanin' and they're all ripped. But don't think for one minute that, you know, bigger arms with more muscle definition on them and some fat are better than less muscle division and the same amount of fat on your arms. So I had to put that into
Starting point is 00:18:33 perspective for it to understand that. This is the difference between you hear guys say like, oh, she's thick versus just being overweight. You've ever seen a girl who's a little heavier, but she's got muscle underneath. Yeah, it's just the shape looks different. It looks firm. It looks exactly curvy because you have you have muscle underneath. Exactly. You have good. And that's what I was trying to explain to her that you don't want to start laying off the arms. I know you love the way that looks. That should always be your motivation when you start to see yourself. Okay, I think I want to lean out because I'm not liking the way I feel or not with the way I look. Look right now. So then you come the other direction. But don't stop training or don't stop building muscle
Starting point is 00:19:07 because you think you have two bigger arms or two bigger legs. That's the body fat on there. Right. And let me tell you, bigger, bigger, thicker legs, bigger, thicker arms with more muscle, it looks better than having less muscle and body, the same amount of fat, is that makes sense? It's flabbyer.
Starting point is 00:19:24 Yes. And you're touching upon diet. Diet is huge when it comes to this. Before you decide you want to lose muscle, get really lean first and see what that looks like. You may be surprised. You may be, you may look in the mirror and say, you know what, I don't need to lose muscle. I've just needed to get leaner.
Starting point is 00:19:39 Because I've had people come up to me, again, mostly women. And they'll tell me they're, my legs bill too much muscle. And then I get them lean and it's like, no, that was body fat. You know what I mean? Yeah, I mean, this is a hard question for me. Just listening to you guys, handle it's good.
Starting point is 00:19:54 Cause I don't even really know what I would tell that it goes against like everything. Just be like, are you an idiot? Yeah, I would do that. You know, like that would be my first reaction. But, you know, like I would, I would be like, are you an idiot? Yeah, I would do that. You know, like that would be my first reaction, but you know, like I would probably like, you know, coach her to try and, you know, achieve that next level, you know, and just see what that was.
Starting point is 00:20:14 And if, you know, you're not happy with the whole process then calm down, you know, but I don't know, it's hard for me to, when you're getting awesome gains, like, why would you want a backtrack? Well, I understand, I understand with women it's totally different. Well, I mean, if she did a bunch of circuit training, body weight movement,
Starting point is 00:20:32 she could focus on different adaptations. Yeah, I did a bunch of yoga, incorporated some long distance running. She would lose muscle. No, I definitely lose muscle. I think it's important, that's why I brought up the Katrina story because Katrina is die hard, my pump fan. She's listened to every single episode multiple times.
Starting point is 00:20:48 It lives with me. She's been hearing me preach to her for the last five plus years. So the girl knows what she's doing. She's smart, but yet she still has a perception like that. So even the most advanced and intelligent fitness minds out there that are listening to us right now still might have a little bit of a misconstrued understanding of that. And you got to under that size or that way that you feel right now is it's the extra body fat that you're carrying on your body. And to think, to think to yourself because there be more muscle that it might increase the inches, you know, diameter of the muscle or that because you've now put gain muscle and fat, it still will look better than, right? Focus on the muscle density.
Starting point is 00:21:28 Yeah. Yeah. And it's just different ways of training. It's hard to tell a female that that doesn't want big arms or doesn't want big legs and they know that they build muscle weight. Which by the way, this is rare. This is very rare. Yeah, definitely.
Starting point is 00:21:41 I would say all my years of training, I hand full of times if I had any female clients that I can remember. Very rare. Usually I can try to train them as much as I possibly can to get them to build as much muscle as possible. And all that ends up happening is they're super satisfied with their very toned sculpted body.
Starting point is 00:22:00 I've actually dealt with it quite a bit just because I've dealt with competitors. You're competing with a different, exactly. That's what I'm going to say is that those, typically those are women that get into competing because they have got this great gene. Then you run into a situation like the girl in our form who's just, she, her only problem is she's caught between what she wants to do. What she really should do is probably not worry about, you know, what, you know, what other people are telling her where her physique should or shouldn't be.
Starting point is 00:22:26 She should compete at whatever fucking level she wants. And just bring the best kind of have to have a decision process there. We're like, am I going to do it? Do it or don't do it. Yeah. Yeah. You have to decide. And I feel like instead of trying to fit the mold of what, you know, NPC or IFBB is
Starting point is 00:22:41 trying to put because that changes and it changes per place that you're at. So it's like me right now, like debating if I wanna go between classics or men's physique. Like it's, what should make my decision shouldn't be like, oh, I think I, I- What is it gonna make you happy? Yeah, I'm gonna go, I'm gonna go at it. And if I think, okay, my physique best fits this category,
Starting point is 00:23:02 I'm gonna go on it. If the judges think, look at me and they go, oh, you're too big, you should have done classics. I don't give a fuck what they say. I was trying to do something for myself and I wanted to see how I look, how I feel afterwards. So that to me is more important. East Coast Kinney is asking,
Starting point is 00:23:19 how do you mentally stay on track even with all the right info? Oh, so much fitness and... Well, she has like all, are he, he, right? I think it's a he. East Coast Kinney, I think all the right info. Oh, so much fitness and... Well, she has like all our, her, her, her, right? I think it's a he. Easter goes Kenny, I think it's a kid's guy. I believe he has every, every one of the, the maps programs, he has all the tools, all the books, and we're saying that, you know, even with all that stuff, find himself falling
Starting point is 00:23:38 in and out, you know? So it's just that, it's that mental discipline that, well, just basically getting into that mode and that mentality of like, okay, I'm doing this, I'm not compromising, you know, that is hard for a lot of people to find that within themselves. And I think you have to look at like these incremental steps, like,
Starting point is 00:23:58 what can you do each day that might be just the one focal point that you know you can achieve and you know you can achieve and you know you can accomplish for that day and that you know that cascades that that builds up and then you can you can add you know incremental steps to that and Soon like before you know it, you know, you're you're walking all those steps and it's become part of the process So it's it's the lifestyle aspect of yeah, I would say, you know It's a decision. You know, you initially, you just have to make the decision. I am going to work out on Monday, Wednesday, and Friday or whatever. I am going to do that. I am going to go at noon.
Starting point is 00:24:38 You put it in your schedule. You have to do it. You put it in your schedule and it becomes a rock. Yep. That means that no matter what happens, you can't move that. You can't change that. I can't bump it for something else. I can't say to myself like, oh, you know what? Monday, I was going to go to lunch with my friends, so I'm just going to do it on Tuesday then instead or whatever. Make it a rock, leave it there, and then force your ass to do it.
Starting point is 00:25:01 Like, I've made this decision, I'm going to do it. And what will happen is if you do it long enough in this fashion is it becomes a habit. And then you're less likely to stop doing it. But initially, it becomes a decision. And the way I do it with myself, the mental games I do it with myself, because I love exercise. So that's not hard for me to stay consistent on that. But I hate mobility work, I hate stretching, and I eat healthy for health, but sometimes before summer, I want to eat to get leaner, so I have to restrict myself a little bit.
Starting point is 00:25:33 I hate doing that too. So how do I do it? I tell myself I'm gonna do it, and it becomes a game, like, okay, who's gonna, who's in charge here? Me or my cravings, or me and my laziness, or my laziness, who's in charge here? Me or my cravings or me and my laziness or my laziness? Who's in charge? I'm in charge. I'm gonna do what I said I was gonna do.
Starting point is 00:25:51 And it becomes one of those things where I refuse to give in and I just become hard-headed about it. And you have to have that attitude when you start off. Once you do it long enough, it really does become a habit. I've had lots of clients who, you know, will hire me, and they're already in their 40s and 50s, who were never consistent on exercise, and now couldn't imagine not being consistent
Starting point is 00:26:13 with exercise. And it took some years to do so, and initially it was all about getting consistent with it and making that decision. Well, that's why, yeah, it has to be a non-negotiable. It has to be, but like I had mentioned about just small incremental steps, what I mean by that is something that
Starting point is 00:26:28 you can tackle right away that's gonna be a non-negotiable. This is something that I immediately know, I should be doing, I don't do it, but I know I could do it every single time. And then that would be small, it could be very small, but then you could go, and my mentality too, it's hard for me to even like see that, because if I make a decision, I'm doing it.
Starting point is 00:26:48 That's just, I've trained myself to do that, I've trained my brain to respond that way. And so if I just, a lot of times for me, just vocalizing it, or getting accountability around my decision process with my friends or family or people around that just me vocalizing it really helps me to To be like I'm so doing this. Well, I think a big problem for people is that they think they have to go all in or it's not worth it You know what I mean like right like okay, I know I need to exercise. I'm also right in my word
Starting point is 00:27:18 I'm overweight. I don't want to know so I need to work out five days a week. I think It's a step ladder, you know, make yourself work out once a week. Start with that. One day a week, I'm going to the gym for an hour. When you get to the point where that's sticks and that's a habit, then you can start to bump it up a little bit. And the reality is this is how I train my clients. The way I train my clients is in this way.
Starting point is 00:27:42 We don't go to the next level until we've mastered this level. It's just like anything else. You learn a martial art, you're not going to go in as a white belt and they're going to teach you black belt shit. You got to learn what white belts learn before you move up to the next belt and so on. And it's very, very similar. This is something I just had this conversation two days ago with one of my clients that I coach and asked me a good question, wanted to know realistically, if I'm falling everything perfect at them and doing this and doing that, in a year's time, how much muscle do you think I should gain?
Starting point is 00:28:14 Let me first tell you this, I said, don't get caught up in that rat race of trying to chase a number that you want to get at or you want to obtain. I said, let me, I think one mistake that people make is doing this. And when you put things into perspective, it's, it's totally different the way you'll start to look at things. So for example, I said, take somebody who is a, you know, professional bodybuilder who was hopped up on tons of anabolic steroids. He is happy if he can add 10 pounds of muscle in a year.
Starting point is 00:28:46 Think about that. Think about that. Anabolicly induced genetic freak who's training fucking seven days a week, non-zov is happy if he can put 10 pounds of muscle on per year. So think about the average Joe guy who has a life, goes to school, goes to work, has a relationship, has got a different job than bodybuilding, and isn't taking a bunch of antibiotics. Think about how much you should really expect from your body as far as now. We've talked before that, you know,
Starting point is 00:29:13 you have people that are responders and can you get more than that if it's your- And if we're a beginner? Yeah, of course, of course, although it's, but in reality, the grants keep things like, overall, if you're making any sort of progress year over year, it's great. It's a journey like that.
Starting point is 00:29:26 You know what it's called? Progress. Yes. And that's all progress. And that's why what I was saying to him is like, you know, what we're looking to do is to beat the yesterday you always were just trying to improve you. And I said, the next little tip that I would give somebody, this is, this is, you meant you brought up a mental game.
Starting point is 00:29:42 You play with yourself. I have the same thing that I do that's very similar to you. And what I do is whenever I make a decision that I'm going to get in super lean or bulk and do whatever, but when I've made a decision on I'm going to do something as far as changing my physique or a plan, maybe it's performance or related, I say, okay, this is day one, here we go. And part of my program is always, there has to be, there's nutrition around it
Starting point is 00:30:08 and then there's consistency with training. And what I do is I go after it. And it's inevitable, you will fall off, you will get sick, you will get hurt, you're gonna have these setbacks. That's all part of this journey. You know that's going to happen, but you don't worry about that, you don't stress it and you don't beat yourself up when those happen. So let's say I go and 15
Starting point is 00:30:28 days in a row, 15 days of eating good, doing everything I was supposed to be doing for my training program, haven't missed anything. I'm 100% day 15. Boom. Work hits me. I'm slammed. I'm stressed. I fall off for two days. I don't trip out. I get right back on and guess what my new goal is 16 days. That's all I want to get to. My goal now for two days. I don't trip out. I get right back on and guess what my new goal is? 16 days. That's all I want to get to. My goal now is 16 days. If I can get 16 days in a row of consistency,
Starting point is 00:30:52 I've now beat my personal best before 15 days. And I just keep playing that game with myself. I do that with every show. Every show when I'm competing, that's how I stay in that mental focus of pushing my body to that limit. Is I look at each day of nutrition and training. I have an idea of what a perfect day looks like.
Starting point is 00:31:09 And I'm striving for that every single day. If I don't hit it, I don't beat myself up. I just try and better it next time and keep stacking on. I like that. Yeah. And each time you do it, you're trying to get healthier. Like do it a healthier way. Yeah, better and better each time.
Starting point is 00:31:23 So awesome. Dave Kresiminski is asking about the benefits to training while high. Are they ready? High on what? What, yeah, what are we talking about here? So he's talking about... He's, we're gonna assume he's talking about marijuana.
Starting point is 00:31:38 Cause that's really the only substance that we're talking about. Okay, ready, set, go. You guys. So here's the thing, the study's done on marijuana and exercise performance. Demonstrate that it reduces peak power output. It reduces your ability to react and respond to stimuli. So some of your reflexes slow down.
Starting point is 00:32:00 So I don't recommend training while high if you're lifting weights or if you're looking for maximal power output Now there has been studies that being that being said anecdotally there's lots of anecdotal evidence that People who are regular users by the way, but this is a big difference now if I took a bunch of people who've never Had marijuana on their systems and get them really high and then go that tell them to do something, they're going to suck at it. It's just, it's not a performance enhancer like that. These are people who are regular users of cannabis and they're going to run straight to 7.11.
Starting point is 00:32:36 Or, or sit in the corner and cry because they're paranoid. But these are people who are regular users of cannabis who understand the effects and are comfortable with the effects. And there's lots of anecdotes and a delevidence from high level endurance athletes, like 100 miles. People who run 100 miles. That's who they've done all the use. They say training while high is awesome. And I can understand this because there is a pain,
Starting point is 00:33:02 your pain tolerance goes up. Your ability to find novelty and every day, every day things goes up. This is why people like to get high and clean their house or do, you know, mundane tasks, they seem more, more fun. Oh, this is interesting now. Exactly. There's also, by the way, the runners high, we've all heard of this, right? What people run for long distance and then they hit a certain point and they get the runners high. Well, they've identified what causes the runners high. First of all, right, where people run for long distance and then they hit a certain point and they get the runners high. Well, they've identified what causes the runners high. First of all, the runners high is real.
Starting point is 00:33:30 And number two, it's caused by an endocannabinoid. This is a cannabinoid that is produced by the body called, and the one that they identified was an endomide. And endocannabinoids are structurally very similar to phyto cannabinoids which are found in marijuana. So when you're smoking or eating- Is it produced as naturally? We humans, as humans, we produce endocannabinoids. Endocannabinoids.
Starting point is 00:33:56 They've identified three of them, I believe. One of them is the enanomy that we talked about. So this isn't endorphins? Like, we're talking about like- No, our body produces them all the time and there's reasons why we have them in our system. One, there's reasons to have to do with the way you think, your brain, how you forget things.
Starting point is 00:34:15 There's, it's a euphoric type chemical, it affects things like depression, appetite. And so when you're exercising at a high level for long periods of time, your body will naturally release an endomide or these endocannabinoids. And they think it's to promote better performance during that period of time. So maybe I'm hunting an animal and I'm tracking it or whatever and I'm getting tired and so my body, we evolve to release this, you know, canabinoids to make us feel better. So when people get that runner's
Starting point is 00:34:43 high, they're actually getting high off of their own natural Canabinoid. So it only makes sense that taking extra Canabinoids from outside the body would improve upon that effect. I also have friends that train in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu and They say they love practicing Jiu-Jitsu When they're high because they feel more creative, they feel more relaxed, they're more flexible, and they're training when they're training Jiu-Jitsu. And marijuana is big in the Jiu-Jitsu world. Marijuana and Jiu-Jitsu is like marijuana and surfing
Starting point is 00:35:15 or skateboarding. I've heard that. I've heard that and I've heard that the sport itself has evolved like crazy because of they do allow like unlike most martial arts to allow people to sort of come up with, yeah, with their moves and then people adapt to the stuff that, you know, it has worked. Well, dude, I mean, technique wise. Eddie Bravo, who, you know, really popularized and invented some, someone say he didn't, but he says he invented and I believe he did, he did. Invented certain techniques in Jiu-Jitsu, like the rubber guard and all the sequences from there.
Starting point is 00:35:45 And Joe Rogan's one of his students. He's a huge advocate for training in Jiu-Jitsu while you've had some marijuana. He says it helps him quite a bit. That being said, if you're listening to this right now and you're like, oh shit, I'm gonna go smoke some weenigle workout. Like I said, if you're not a regular user
Starting point is 00:36:03 and you don't like the effects, it ain't gonna help you, it's gonna make your workouts shit. I've, I you're not a regular user and you don't like the effects, it ain't going to help you, it's going to make your workouts shit. I've never trained under the influence. The only time I ever use cannabis is in the evening and I use it for my own, you know, mostly medicinal reasons. I have, however, tried training while under the influence and I'm not stronger, I'm not better. It's sometimes, it's for cardio, it's cool,
Starting point is 00:36:25 because I get on the machine and I'm, you know, 30 minutes goes by and I'm okay with it. But other than that, no. I don't know about you guys. Adam, do you ever train? I've tried. I've had buddies that are all about it, and I'm not, I don't like it at all.
Starting point is 00:36:39 I don't like it at all. No, I don't like it at all. You know, and like I've talked about before, the lifting weights for me is already meditative and it's already my, I mean, Zen already, you know, I don't want anything else to alter that. And as much as I'm pro cannabis, that's not the time that I wanna be like that, you know?
Starting point is 00:36:58 So not a fan of it. Although I have done it cardio-wise a couple times when I've gone to the gym, like when I'm competing and I'm planning on getting on piece of equipment for a one-hour straight, actually makes the time fly by, you know, and I can get into like some music. I'll put some music in and I'll really do something. And that's what the athlete is saying. Yeah, really into the music. I'm not really thinking about what I'm doing. And so kind of takes
Starting point is 00:37:18 me away, which I enjoy that. But never, what I am ever again experiment with doing it with lifting weights is just the little bit that I have been before but never what I am ever again experiment with doing it with lifting weights is just the little bit that I have been before lifting weights, I saw no benefits whatsoever to it. Well, for me, when I lift weights, I lift with like an intensity, an intent. Yes. You know, I'm going to like, I'm going to grind this weight. Complete opposite, right?
Starting point is 00:37:37 I'm a cardio or horse mogul. Right. Like, if I take anything, it's going to be caffeine or stimulant, right? To get me in that like angry, like, you know, drive through type, if I'm, if I'm lifting weights and I'm, and I'm super chill and real, I mean, it doesn't work for me. Now, if I'm in a stretch, if I did a yoga class, maybe I'd imagine striking a conversation up with somebody about aliens while we're
Starting point is 00:38:00 working out. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, that'd be weird. Josh Dusan is asking about the one thing that you'd change about yourself and is also asking why? Oh, wow. Who wants to go first?
Starting point is 00:38:14 Wow. Nobody wants to do this. Nobody wants to do this. We should pick for each other. Yeah, so we really do. Yeah, this is a road to the- What would I change about Sal? I would be-
Starting point is 00:38:24 No, no, he'll know. Yeah, that'd be a dick. Are we talking about like physically or whatever? I think we've done physically it. This is a Russian though. What would I change about Sal? I would be like, no, hell no. That would be a dick. Are we talking about like physically or whatever? I think we've done physically before. I think whatever. I think we should do it whatever. I'll start. I'll start.
Starting point is 00:38:33 Like a tick we have or something? Yeah. I'll start since everybody thinks on the guy who loves everything about himself. I'm like, the first guy to admit. Oh, here it comes. It meant there's stuff that I don't like about myself. Because I was my dick was smaller.
Starting point is 00:38:43 Yeah. You just, you just, you know, just being honest about myself. Because I was my dick was smaller. Yeah. You just, you just, we know what's threatening. I was so good looking. Yeah. That's stupid. It doesn't work what you do in Adam.
Starting point is 00:38:52 I have to do it. What you do in it yourself, narcissistic, fucking guy. So the one thing I would change, I am a, God, I am terrible at time management. I probably could be close to a superhero if I had good time. You'd be a billionaire. Yeah, I would be a billionaire.
Starting point is 00:39:13 I'm pretty, no, I know actually I know I'd be a billionaire if I could. It's pretty much math at that point. Yeah, I don't, I'm terrible with time management and organization. And you know what? Maybe it's because the best advice, which also, and probably being the worst advice for me ever, was when someone once told me to, do not focus on the things that I am not good at, focus on what I'm good at and be great. I'll never forget hearing that and going like,
Starting point is 00:39:39 wow, that just changed my whole perspective of, you know, growing and getting better and stuff. Instead of, you know, my thought of growing at that point in my life was we can all find all the flaws I have and try and get better at all these flaws. But how boring is that to work on all the stuff you already suck at? How much more fun it is to work on stuff
Starting point is 00:39:55 that I'm already good at and be great. So, I excelled pretty fast in my career early on because I got that advice, but then now I look back and I'm like, well, son of a bitch I didn't spend any time doing the stuff that I fucking did. This is why I have that deal. I just keep finding ways to farm it out. This is why me and you, Adam, if me and you became, we're just business partners, just me and you.
Starting point is 00:40:13 It never worked. It would be horrible. It would be horrible. Because we have the exact same week we did down in flames. It would be horrible. Yeah, no, it wouldn't work at all. Yeah, for me, besides that, because I'm horrible, I'm so unorganized, it's ridiculous. My desk was always just a fucking tornado of shit all over the all over the desk.
Starting point is 00:40:29 But, uh, so I can't pick that one because you picked that one. For me, I wish I had a sense of direction. And I don't mean like in life. Like, oh, I don't know what I'm going. Because I know where I'm going there. I mean literally like a Tom Tom. I mean literally I get lost so fucking easily. I mean, literally like a Tom Tom. I mean, literally, I get lost so fucking easily. I am. This is a true story. This is, no, no, and I've identified. Okay, so you know, okay, I'm gonna give you an example. You know how when you have your stove up at the, like you have the stove top, right? And then the back splash the back is where you have the knobs to turn on each burner. And next to the burner is usually a little picture to show you which burner is going to turn on. And it's four circles and like the one circle it turns on is colored in. So you know that that's the corresponding burner. You know I'm talking about. I
Starting point is 00:41:12 fuck that up every time because I'm I'm telling and this is not funny if you guys laugh your assholes. There's definitely a dyslexic part to my brain because I can never quite understand which circle is representing which burner. I'm always flipping it upside down. And this is what happens to me when I drive. The funny thing is reading no problem, numbers, no problem. But when it comes to other types of things, I definitely have those traits of dyslexia
Starting point is 00:41:38 where I literally, things get flipped. Like, I'll leave a parking lot and I'll go right when I was supposed to go left. Every single fucking time, every time. I'll leave a parking lot and I'll go right when I was supposed to go left. Every single fucking time, every time, I'll get lost to everywhere. I wish I could change that. It's horrible. It has prevented me from doing so much
Starting point is 00:41:53 because I don't want to travel by myself. I don't want to get lost. I mean, I kind of have the same thing. That's pretty funny. I've done that with the burners too. Do you really? Yeah, you really do. I swear to God, I swear to God.
Starting point is 00:42:02 Sometimes it's scary. What if we're brothers? I know. We might be split from the same So like sometimes he says a new like it's a new that's new to me you know we've been hanging out for a long time We've talked hundreds of hours Yeah, like dude you fucked the still thing up You guys mics thing up to. No shit.
Starting point is 00:42:22 I'm going to show you guys mics. I'm going to show you guys. I was at the check on my hand and shit like, oh, it's this way. Dude, so this just happened to me. Okay. I feel like we have to talk. We're like Marty McFly when you're not around. You start like, you know, disappearing.
Starting point is 00:42:34 Yeah. I'm going to get closer to myself. So I was at my aunt and uncles this last weekend, right? Visiting them. And their upstairs bathroom has five switches because it has the heated floor, it has the heated thing like that. And then there's one that's the fucking light.
Starting point is 00:42:52 And I end up every time I've switched those lights on a thousand times I get to go through everyone before I guess the right one. And it's like, and I know it going into the bathroom. I'm like, which one is it? Like, it's always the last one. All these problems just amount to being like, fucking entrepreneurs.
Starting point is 00:43:08 Like, these are all like these problems, dude, because I was gonna bring up for me. It's like remembering like any detail that doesn't have to do with work, I forget it immediately. You say to me, it's gone. Gone. Tell me this date for this thing, or, you know, I, as your wife always like, I told you 10 times,
Starting point is 00:43:27 Friday is the baptism. She'll talk right to my face and be like, uh-huh. And then like, I was supposed to like grab the keys and go out and grab something from the car. And then I was just, yeah. And then I just like, somebody text me and then I was, I'll send, I'm gone. I'm so glad, I'm so glad you shared that too.
Starting point is 00:43:44 I hate that because it's like I Can't even explain see how many millions of things are going on my brain at the time and It's the stuff that's in front of me. That's the hardest. You know, it's the hardest for me to like stay in that moment like hey So I get I get in trouble because I I do the exact same thing and I'm so glad you brought the Yeah me too. This is great. Yeah, so I don't feel alone here, right? Because you know that I do every once about two because if it's something that Like it's we're in the heat of like right in the middle of discussing something workwise And I am so in it and she's trying to share tell me something and then I and I'm just trying to appease her but yeah Yeah, no, okay, and then she tries to quiz me afterwards
Starting point is 00:44:22 Oh Rose yeah, my wife and then she tries to quiz me afterwards, and I get a hell of a mat. Oh, it's gross. Yeah, my wife really said, when I just ask you, what do you need to do tomorrow? And I'm like, I'm right in the middle of this right here. Yeah, I'm doing an email.
Starting point is 00:44:32 So I'm not playing around. I'm mad because I lost my train of thought. I'm not mad at her. I'm mad because I lost my train of thought. No, I know, Zach, I'm mad at myself. Yeah. Well, let me ask you guys this. So do you guys,
Starting point is 00:44:43 are you guys all or nothing when it comes to that kind of shit? I'm either hyper focused on something and I'm just in it, or I'm like a goldfish. Like I just forget what I just saw and what I just get bounced off walls. Yeah, so I'll be super into some and anybody could tell me anything.
Starting point is 00:44:57 My, you know, family members will text me, hey, don't forget Friday, we're doing that thing. I'll be like, oh yeah, no problem. Completely forget. This is how I manage my business because I have to get around this, right? no problem. Completely forget. This is how I manage my business, because I have to get around this, right? Otherwise, I'll, I'm fucked. I'll miss like appointments with my clients,
Starting point is 00:45:09 whatever. This is what I do. When my clients text me or ask me a question about something, if I don't answer it, write that second, it will never happen. Yes. So I answer it right then and there. I don't care what I'm doing. If it client text me and says,
Starting point is 00:45:22 I can't really do. Hey, Sal, you know, Friday schedule, can I can admit it to? I have to stop what I'm doing and check the schedule. me and says, I can't really do. Hey, Sal, Friday schedule, can I can admit to? I have to stop what I'm doing and check the schedule. Because if I say, oh, I'm gonna check that after I'm done with this, it goes away. It disappears into the ether, and I forget. Well, and this is the thing that I try and explain it to Trino all the time.
Starting point is 00:45:37 Because she gets so mad at me because she's just like, are you gonna put your phone down for a minute and stuff? I'm like, I'm working right now. Let me finish doing this really quick. You're working all day. You're, well, couldn't you have handled that earlier? I'm like, no, just came in right now. And if I don't do it right now, then I'll forget about it.
Starting point is 00:45:49 And then tomorrow I'll be fucked. And then I'll be buried in something else. You're behind. Yes. You're behind. Sometimes when you do a million things. Beautiful. We'll get it slowed down.
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