Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 288: Losing Muscle, Staying On Track, Training High & MORE
Episode Date: May 6, 2016The THIRD Quah of the Week! Keep asking questions and Sal, Adam & Justin will keep answering them! In this Q&A they answer Pump Head questions about how to reduce muscle if you have too much (some wou...ld call that a quality problem), how to stay on track when knowing what to do and having the right tools isn’t cutting it, the benefits of training while high and the one thing they would change about themselves. Get MAPS Aesthetic NOW at www.mindpumpmedia.com Please subscribe, rate and review this show! Each week the best reviewers are announced on the show and sent Mind Pump T-shirts! Learn more about Mind Pump at www.mindpumpmedia.com.
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Braided like my hair, Sal.
Ugh.
What?
It's so creepy with Justin doesn't always do I mean?
I don't know why, I don't know.
My wife tells me the same thing.
She's like I was gonna have sex with you too.
Yeah exactly.
You creep me out, I'll put my clothes back on.
Damn it.
Hey listeners, I'm figuring it out.
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The superhero Super Bundle.
That's what I just want to say.
Bundle of Joy.
Bundle of Joy, I just want to say that.
I'm not quite.
Lots of Super in there.
You are a bundle of joy.
You're a bundle of joy.
I'm a lot of joyous person.
Steamy Bundle of Joy.
If you were to define,
if you were to define me,
would joyous be in the definition.
I think I would use.
Joveel.
Joveel, maybe.
Joveel.
Joveel always makes me think of like someone who's that guy.
Yeah.
Maybe Jubellant.
Somebody's a little fat.
Oh, yeah, maybe Jubellant.
Jubellant, what does Jubellant mean?
It's like Jubellee, but it's Jubellant.
Jubellant, is that a real?
Yes it is.
Doug, prompt, confirm.
Jubellant's word.
I believe it means joyful.
Yeah, Jubellant's word. They all fall on the same category there. That's the one for me. a real yes it is dog from two bullets word I believe it means joyful yeah
Jubilee they all fall on the same catting way there yeah one for me yeah
all right sometimes Adam says words that that that are better big yeah that was
not a big word what I mean by okay
okay
hey don't forget to swallow the sore ass sometimes sometimes you say words
that are not when I may say big it it doesn't have to be a big word.
It just means that the word is not used outside your lexicon. Yes.
Sometimes you speak, yeah, you speak like you read the word. I know a little bit. A lot of times I just heard the word earlier that day
and I just want to reuse it. And normally I can guess. When did you hear Drupal?
Today, yeah, I did that today.
Which is a breakfast at the breakfast with a very jubilant.
The waitress?
Yeah.
She looked jubilant.
Juicy.
Juicy Lance, not the word I thought.
I don't.
What's up with that post on your Instagram, dude?
Have I marriage one?
Yeah, what happened?
Oh, you know, the flack right now.
You know what, lately, uh, I-
What did you say exactly?
I'm gonna pull it up.
He said you're single, guy, isn't he?
I've done a couple, I don't know which one you're talking about,
but I've done a couple of them in the last week or two, whatever.
And you know what, I guess it's been on my mind
because everybody's been hounding me, right?
35 years old, Katrina and I have been together
for like five, six years.
Everyone's like,
that's where this is coming from.
Everyone's like,
what is the fucking deal with Mary?
I think, and you know what, here we go.
I'm gonna piss some people off. Oh, here's what it says.
Yeah, go ahead.
It says marriage, betting someone half your shit
that you'll love them forever.
No.
Hey, it's fucking accurate for fuck's sake.
I mean, in California, that's true.
It is, you are accurate.
You are betting that, right?
It is a bet, right?
And that's what I think our whole,
the whole marriage system is all fucked up.
I don't think it should be that way.
I think it should be more like a least thing.
Like we're like five years, right?
Now listen to me, hear me out here.
I think this makes total sense.
And so far, he's fucking genius continuing.
So, I'm gonna back out of this conversation.
So just like, no, listen, you'll like this.
I promise you, here's the deal.
They even guys like you that are extremely happily married, right? And have an awesome wife,
awesome family, and would and and guarantee that it was the best decision you ever made in your life.
Okay, that's great. There's nothing wrong with that. That's exactly why every five years,
everybody has to renew their lease. So at the five year, at the five year mark, which isn't back,
which is great for the two of you guys, because what do guys do high five go out to dinner and say like hey five more years
Baby, I love you good for you, but the rest of us thoughts. Yeah, right the other the other 50% of the world. Okay
The other 50% now at this we come up with a five year and we look each other we go, you know, it was good
At a good time, you know, like that one time we went there. That was great, right?
Our lease, our lease next has been good, right?
At the one time we went there.
Yeah, right, that was good, right?
But, you know, why don't you do your thing?
I'm going to do my thing.
We'll go our separate ways.
And hopefully, you know, we'll run into each other again, right?
And then-
That's very deep.
Honey, honey, why did you bring me flowers?
Or your lease is up.
I shouldn't have used a lease.
Just want to talk about- about leases of bad word.
Your leases up.
Lease sounds like it's a car, right?
And of course, people are gonna be offending.
Oh, is that last minute guy, you know?
Oh, oh yeah.
But it should be that way.
Leases up.
I think it would save a lot of heartache,
it would save a lot of money.
I think people would be more honest, right?
But and that's part of the marriage deal
is that you have to renew the lease.
You have, you have every five years.
You should be evaluating and working on things, you know, that's just part of it is work
in general, like people want to shy away from it.
Or all relationships are work.
Or you can get married.
So you're married, but you could still have sex with other people.
I don't understand what that's not up to.
So, this is why you work.
This is why you, this is why you use the word lease.
Why? Because I believe there should be different lease options for everybody very smart. So
there you know, it's not I should I'd put a good me upgrade or well, if it's consenting
right? If you have a new car smell, you say here, listen, you know, I know, I know most
the population does the five year lease, but you know, I'm thinking more of a three year arm,
you know, I'm thinking of three year, three year, but we both have the option to have
somebody else on our arm. And as long as I got just, it's like having new rims, in a sense.
Yeah, I think, you know, and this rim job, this way, I feel like we all, everybody, even
the people that are madly in love and and have different views with marriage, they,
hey, guess what, good for you.
You guys married forever.
You guys keep renewing your lace every five years.
High five each other.
Go out to dinner. That's great.
But the rest of the world, I guess I had to retire
the high five, by the way.
You did.
I did it.
You know, I was like, what'd you just do that for me?
Yeah, why did you do that?
You mean, you would high five her?
Well, yeah, it was like something like
I've got your sex and stuff.
No, not after sex. I was like, yeah, it was like something like Oh, yeah, sex and stuff. Not after sex.
I was like, yeah, it was something like that.
I did that.
You did that.
And I was like, why did you just do it?
I don't go team after you finish.
Go team, I'm going to be a huge rookie.
You say, high five, I can't.
I'm five.
I finally made it work again.
No, I mean, you can literally, you can go.
You can, you know, you have on the least option
and say, you know, I will sleep with other people. And then you can you know you have on the least option and say you know
I will sleep with other people and then she could say no and then you could say but what if you never find out
And then she could say yes. Yeah, there's all there has to be a matter nobody knows. I see
Okay, if you're point right we know that what is it's around 50% right is the divorce rate
So yeah, yeah, you have half half just they end up deciding we don't like each other or whatever reason
that doesn't work out.
Then you have the other half of that half
that probably lies and still infidelity is going on, right?
So then you have that.
Yeah, because what percentage of the people
that stay married are happy or want to do?
So that's where I'm going.
So then you have the other half of those people
that there's no infidelity on them,
but then they hate that person,
but they have kids with them,
so they stay just because of kids.
So really, the likelihood of you actually finding someone
that you can deal with for the whole rest of your life
for a very, very long time, I'm sorry,
but the percentage is extreme.
You sound so negative.
No, it's not a negative thing.
It's just that the whole marriage thing is backwards.
It should be that way.
It's the same.
So it's only negative because we all are in this system.
We're all in this system that we all have decided that this is the way things are supposed
to be.
You find a mate, you like this mate, you love this mate, and you decide you want to have
this family and go on with them for the next 50 to 90 years.
So that's what you do.
90 years.
How long have you guys been married?
90 years.
90 years. It's like, honey, it's only been 10.
Like, I thought he meant how long it feels like a married.
Yeah, it feels like 90.
So that's, you know, it's a little backwards to me.
And I think that for the most part, most people fail.
And then, and I guess that I'm sure I'm,
I'm turning a lot of people off right now.
I'm lost to quite a few people the last week
on my social media, like I give two shits. You know, so I'm sure it's turning a lot of people off right now. I lost quite a few people the last week on my social media, like I give two shits.
You know, so I'm sure it's offending some of those.
You just got rid of the married people who cares.
Yeah, you're right.
There was a scientist, the social scientist.
A single lady is.
That was explaining why he thinks,
actually she was a woman, why she thinks
divorce rates have climbed.
And one of the reasons is because we redefined
the purpose of getting married.
It's like now, now when you get married,
it's to fulfill you.
That's the idea that people have.
Like I'm gonna get married and this marriage
is gonna fulfill me.
It's gonna make my life better.
It's gonna make me a better person.
And in the past, when you got married,
it was either an agreement or a partnership.
Like, okay, we're partners in this and we're raising kids and we're going to have this
house and that's it.
And she said that what ends up happening when people go into a marriage looking for fulfillment
is if it succeeds, it succeeds beautifully and everything's awesome.
But the failure rate goes up quite a bit.
So that was her theory behind why so many marriages.
That's a pretty good theory. I can't remember the name. up quite a bit. So that was her theory behind why so many marriages. That's a pretty good theory.
I can't remember the name, it was a scientist,
yeah, behavioral scientist that was talking about this,
but her advice is, look, when you get married,
first of all, you need to be able to fulfill yourself
before you get married or understand that,
it's not up to the other person to fulfill you.
You fulfill yourself, it's a big point to make.
Right, and when you get married, it's a partnership.
This is another great point that I would like to make. Okay. Now we're all we're all 35 plus
Doug 75. We have these we've been around for a long time. Doug keeps getting older.
He's crazy for Doug accelerated rate. We need you know, let though, but here's the
dick of an 18 year old. If I were to and obviously because Doug Doug is Doug has a few more years on us. He definitely would be the best person to ask this question
But if you were to go back and you were to look at yourself over
You know your your last 40 plus years of your life and you had to say, you know
Ten years ago. Are you are you? Are you the same man that you are today and ten years before that?
What would you say Doug? The answer is absolutely not.
In fact, I've changed so much over the years,
even the past 10 years.
Which is crazy, right?
So you're, tell everybody how old you really are.
I know we fuck with you all the time.
Can we tell everybody?
You say only 65.
No, just got social security.
Stop it.
No, I'm 50.
Okay, so.
So here's a, here's a 50 year old man is still saying that.
That's still sound old.
We'll say 49. You look old. 49 49 and 39.
But here it looked yesterday.
But here's the thing, when I look at Doug, when I hear Doug speak, when I see how young
and awesome he looks, you just realize you're looking at a brilliant wizard of relationships.
And he understands these things.
And Doug, have you ever been married?
Never.
See?
This is why I'm slowly winning Dunn over.
The more and more Doug and I hear,
he's like, fuck, you know what?
You had him in the air a lot more like you know, realize.
We sound like such assholes on here.
I'll tell you this though.
I wonder if I should defend us,
our people.
The marriage thing, you can go back and forth in debate,
you know, is it good, is it bad?
For society, as a whole, marriage was created,
I think for a reason. But the one thing that I will always support is family.
And whether you're divorced or you're married and you have children together, if you work
together to keep the family together, that doesn't mean you have to stay married. That
just means that you agree to work together to help raise your children and to turn them into
healthy, adjusted human beings.
That's what's important.
That's the most important.
I have a friend of mine who, he got divorced
about 10 years ago, five kids, five children with this woman,
gets divorced and it took him, it took them about a year, a couple years to make things work, but now him and his ex-wife
take all the kids on vacations.
They do things together.
They really co-parent very, very well.
They have an excellent family.
And I think that's the key right there.
It's not necessarily the whole married.
No, it's exactly, you see.
That's the key.
And I don't want it to be turned into something where it's, you know, we're, so I'm coming off of
I'm passionate marriage. Absolutely not. I don't like the title. I don't like the fact that
there's governments involved at all. I don't like any of that. Call it a call it a lease.
Like no, don't call it. I should never say where that's where I offended everybody. Right.
No, I don't think I just think that all the things
it stands for is amazing.
Family, connection, loyalty, love,
but all those words don't have to come with a piece of paper
and come with this whole title around it.
You just, why can't you just love somebody that deeply?
Why can't you just be that good of a man?
Why can't you just have that strong relationship?
Why can't you just be that family of a person?
Without, you know, it's this, we've allowed that this title. Why can't you just have that strong relationship? Why can't you just be that family of a person without,
you know, it's this, we've allowed that this title.
And I even think the law in California,
I think if you live with someone,
nine years for nine years,
that's exactly, then it's like,
then you're pretty much just as entitled
to if you would have been married.
So like eight, eight and a half years,
like, honey, I'm gonna go live over here for a year.
I mean, come back.
That's why you do that.
Yeah, I get it.
Shh.
What?
Finally it's here.
Yeah.
Quack, quack, quack, quack.
It's some other fucking quack.
The Golden Eagle of Quack.
Oh, quack.
Give it to me, Doug.
All right, our first question is from, I guess it's Machi Dog.
Asking about the best set and rep range to lose muscle.
Let's make sure you read that correctly.
What the hell?
What?
Did you say lose muscle?
Yes, I did.
Okay, so.
I'm actually grad, whoever picked.
You're what?
I'm grad, that's grad.
It's grad, but it's grad but it's kind of like Jubilant.
He made it through high school.
It's so grad.
I graduated.
I'm so grad.
Uh, somebody on the forum recently, we had one of our forum members.
Who asked this question?
Yeah, she is, you know, she's in a predicament right now, which I've come across before with
a female competitor who is kind of in between body types, and what I mean by that is, so you
have your figure, and then you have your bikini girls.
And a bikini look is much more like shape magazine or a very lean, thin, almost runner runner type yoga type physique exercise, right?
And then you have physique, which a much more muscular, defined look, still not like body
building for women, but it's a more defined muscular look on a female than what a bikini
competitor is.
So she finds herself right in the middle of that.
So she stuck with this dilemma.
Do I really press and I try and build a bunch more muscle
on my body if I'm already very content and happy
with the muscle mass and lean mass I have?
Or do I cut really hard and try and lose muscle
so I can fit into this category of bikini?
So this is kind of what probably...
Well, it's an interesting question
because it's rare to have anybody say that.
However, the vast majority of people
that have come up to me and asked me this question
were women.
And typically, what I've noticed is it has to do
with their legs.
Some women do build a lot of muscle in their legs,
in particular, the calves.
So I've had a lot of women come up to me
and say, how do I make my calves smaller.
And sometimes women build a lot of muscle
and they lift weights and they want to shrink the muscle size
so change the way they look. And losing muscles is a very difficult thing. and they lift weights and they want to shrink the muscle size
so change the way they look.
And losing muscles is a very difficult thing.
If you're one of those people, if you're one of those fucking people
that can build muscles super easy, you're awesome.
It's awesome.
If you can build muscle really, really easy,
it's very difficult to reverse that with exercise
because when you have those genes for muscle building,
almost any stimulation you do will make them bigger.
I got a client that I train whose calves look like a pro bodybuilder calves, never works
out his calves, ever.
Now, if I told the guy, yeah, go long distance running because it'll shrink your calves.
You know what's going to happen with calves?
Look at bigger.
Yeah.
So, it's a very, very difficult question to ask.
I would say the only advice I would
give is don't lift weights for the muscles, do more body weight stuff, focus on more yoga
type movements, endurance type exercise, and hopefully, will body will adapt by shrinking
semi-air muscle. What you don't want to do is not move, you know, because yeah, that
would shrink muscle too if I stopped moving, but you would also compromise your health, you know, by doing that.
Yeah, lots of movement, lots of low impact movement.
So not like crazy hardcore sprints, I would recommend like, elliptical or something elliptical
for, you know, hours on hours as long as you possibly can, because the more you burn
and the less you eat, the more your body is gonna have to atrophy,
because it sounds crazy for us to even talk about this,
because it's like, oh my God, please don't do this
to your physique.
But to each their own, some people don't want that.
I do want to point out,
because we don't know who this person is,
I don't know what they look like.
I had a very similar conversation with Katrina,
just like two nights ago,
and we were talking about how much her physique has changed over the last like five six years and all the different things that she's focused on
She's going through maps black right now, and you know
She's always had these just amazing legs like she's always been known for her legs. She got great
Lays she was a basketball player whole life too
So they look phenomenal even when she doesn't do anything with them, you know
And if she trains them at all they just they get they blow up and the same thing
So what she's now noticed with her arms is that was like her lagging body parts that she's been working on to try and
You know bring it up to her legs and a lot of that we had to lay off of her training her legs as much as she used to love to because
Guess what it's her strength. So you still let she love training all the time
And they said tell her like man, that's your strength. You could not touch them for a month. And they still look amazing.
So don't, don't train them so much. Don't train them so hard. Let's focus on all the other
things that you feel or lagging. You feel like your, your arms, your shoulders aren't very
defined and this, that. So now that she's done that, now she's, she is in love with the way
her arms look when she's really lean. But then she says to me, the other day, she says,
you know, I think I'm going to start to back off my arms because I with the way her arms look when she's really lean. But then she says to me the other day, she says, you know, I think I'm gonna start to back off my arms
because I love the way they look when I'm lean,
but then when I put on extra body fat,
they look bigger.
They look bigger.
And so I was like, you know, it's funny you say that.
And I said, you know, and you're right,
they will be because you've built muscle
and now you put fat on top of that.
And so they'll look bigger than what they look
when they're leanin' and they're all ripped.
But don't think for one minute that, you know, bigger arms
with more muscle definition on them and some fat are better than less muscle
division and the same amount of fat on your arms. So I had to put that into
perspective for it to understand that. This is the difference between you hear
guys say like, oh, she's thick versus just being overweight. You've ever seen a
girl who's a little heavier, but she's got muscle underneath. Yeah, it's just the shape looks different. It looks firm. It looks exactly
curvy because you have you have muscle underneath. Exactly. You have good. And that's what I
was trying to explain to her that you don't want to start laying off the arms. I know you
love the way that looks. That should always be your motivation when you start to see yourself.
Okay, I think I want to lean out because I'm not liking the way I feel or not with the
way I look. Look right now. So then you come the other direction. But don't stop training or don't stop building muscle
because you think you have two bigger arms or two bigger legs.
That's the body fat on there.
Right.
And let me tell you, bigger, bigger, thicker legs,
bigger, thicker arms with more muscle,
it looks better than having less muscle and body,
the same amount of fat, is that makes sense?
It's flabbyer.
Yes. And you're touching upon diet.
Diet is huge when it comes to this.
Before you decide you want to lose muscle,
get really lean first and see what that looks like.
You may be surprised.
You may be, you may look in the mirror and say,
you know what, I don't need to lose muscle.
I've just needed to get leaner.
Because I've had people come up to me,
again, mostly women.
And they'll tell me they're, my legs bill too much muscle.
And then I get them lean and it's like, no,
that was body fat.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, I mean, this is a hard question for me.
Just listening to you guys, handle it's good.
Cause I don't even really know what I would tell
that it goes against like everything.
Just be like, are you an idiot?
Yeah, I would do that.
You know, like that would be my first reaction. But, you know, like I would, I would be like, are you an idiot? Yeah, I would do that. You know, like that would be my first reaction,
but you know, like I would probably like,
you know, coach her to try and, you know, achieve
that next level, you know, and just see what that was.
And if, you know, you're not happy with the whole process
then calm down, you know, but I don't know,
it's hard for me to, when you're getting awesome gains,
like, why would you want a backtrack?
Well, I understand,
I understand with women it's totally different.
Well, I mean, if she did a bunch of circuit training,
body weight movement,
she could focus on different adaptations.
Yeah, I did a bunch of yoga,
incorporated some long distance running.
She would lose muscle.
No, I definitely lose muscle.
I think it's important, that's why I brought up
the Katrina story because Katrina
is die hard, my pump fan. She's listened to every single episode multiple times.
It lives with me. She's been hearing me preach to her for the last five plus years.
So the girl knows what she's doing. She's smart, but yet she still has a perception like that.
So even the most advanced and intelligent fitness minds out there that are listening to us right now
still might have a little bit of a misconstrued understanding of that. And you got to under that size or that way that you feel right
now is it's the extra body fat that you're carrying on your body. And to think, to think to yourself
because there be more muscle that it might increase the inches, you know, diameter of the muscle
or that because you've now put gain muscle and fat, it still will look better than, right?
Focus on the muscle density.
Yeah. Yeah.
And it's just different ways of training.
It's hard to tell a female that
that doesn't want big arms or doesn't want big legs
and they know that they build muscle weight.
Which by the way, this is rare.
This is very rare.
Yeah, definitely.
I would say all my years of training,
I hand full of times if I had any female clients
that I can remember.
Very rare.
Usually I can try to train them as much as I possibly can to get them to build as much
muscle as possible.
And all that ends up happening is they're super satisfied with their very toned sculpted
body.
I've actually dealt with it quite a bit just because I've dealt with competitors.
You're competing with a different, exactly.
That's what I'm going to say is that those, typically those are women that get into competing
because they have got this great gene.
Then you run into a situation like the girl in our form who's just, she, her only problem
is she's caught between what she wants to do.
What she really should do is probably not worry about, you know, what, you know, what
other people are telling her where her physique should or shouldn't be.
She should compete at whatever fucking level she wants.
And just bring the best kind of have to have a decision process there.
We're like, am I going to do it?
Do it or don't do it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You have to decide.
And I feel like instead of trying to fit the mold of what, you know, NPC or IFBB is
trying to put because that changes and it changes per place that you're at.
So it's like me right now,
like debating if I wanna go between classics or men's physique.
Like it's, what should make my decision shouldn't be like,
oh, I think I, I-
What is it gonna make you happy?
Yeah, I'm gonna go, I'm gonna go at it.
And if I think, okay, my physique best fits this category,
I'm gonna go on it.
If the judges think, look at me and they go,
oh, you're too big, you should have done classics.
I don't give a fuck what they say.
I was trying to do something for myself
and I wanted to see how I look, how I feel afterwards.
So that to me is more important.
East Coast Kinney is asking,
how do you mentally stay on track
even with all the right info?
Oh, so much fitness and...
Well, she has like all, are he, he, right? I think it's a he. East Coast Kinney, I think all the right info. Oh, so much fitness and... Well, she has like all our, her, her, her, right?
I think it's a he.
Easter goes Kenny, I think it's a kid's guy.
I believe he has every, every one of the, the maps programs, he has all the tools, all
the books, and we're saying that, you know, even with all that stuff, find himself falling
in and out, you know?
So it's just that, it's that mental discipline that, well, just basically getting into that mode
and that mentality of like, okay, I'm doing this,
I'm not compromising, you know,
that is hard for a lot of people to find that
within themselves.
And I think you have to look at
like these incremental steps, like,
what can you do each day that might be just the one focal point
that you know you can achieve
and you know you can achieve and you know you can
accomplish for that day and that you know that cascades that that builds up and then you can you can add you know incremental steps to that and
Soon like before you know it, you know, you're you're walking all those steps and it's become part of the process
So it's it's the lifestyle aspect of yeah, I would say, you know
It's a decision. You know, you initially, you just have to make the decision. I am going to work out on Monday, Wednesday,
and Friday or whatever. I am going to do that. I am going to go at noon.
You put it in your schedule. You have to do it. You put it in your schedule and it becomes a rock.
Yep. That means that no matter what happens, you can't move that.
You can't change that.
I can't bump it for something else.
I can't say to myself like, oh, you know what?
Monday, I was going to go to lunch with my friends, so I'm just going to do it on Tuesday
then instead or whatever.
Make it a rock, leave it there, and then force your ass to do it.
Like, I've made this decision, I'm going to do it.
And what will happen is if you do it long enough in this fashion is it becomes a habit. And then you're less
likely to stop doing it. But initially, it becomes a decision. And the way I do it with
myself, the mental games I do it with myself, because I love exercise. So that's not hard
for me to stay consistent on that. But I hate mobility work, I hate stretching,
and I eat healthy for health, but sometimes before summer,
I want to eat to get leaner,
so I have to restrict myself a little bit.
I hate doing that too.
So how do I do it?
I tell myself I'm gonna do it,
and it becomes a game, like, okay,
who's gonna, who's in charge here?
Me or my cravings, or me and my laziness, or my laziness, who's in charge here? Me or my cravings or me and my laziness or my laziness?
Who's in charge? I'm in charge.
I'm gonna do what I said I was gonna do.
And it becomes one of those things where I refuse to give in
and I just become hard-headed about it.
And you have to have that attitude when you start off.
Once you do it long enough, it really does become a habit.
I've had lots of clients who, you know, will hire me,
and they're already in their 40s and 50s,
who were never consistent on exercise,
and now couldn't imagine not being consistent
with exercise.
And it took some years to do so,
and initially it was all about getting consistent
with it and making that decision.
Well, that's why, yeah, it has to be a non-negotiable.
It has to be, but like I had mentioned
about just small
incremental steps, what I mean by that is something that
you can tackle right away that's gonna be a non-negotiable.
This is something that I immediately know,
I should be doing, I don't do it,
but I know I could do it every single time.
And then that would be small, it could be very small,
but then you could go, and my mentality too,
it's hard for me to even like see that,
because if I make a decision, I'm doing it.
That's just, I've trained myself to do that,
I've trained my brain to respond that way.
And so if I just, a lot of times for me,
just vocalizing it, or getting accountability
around my decision process with my friends
or family or people around that just me vocalizing it really helps me to
To be like I'm so doing this. Well, I think a big problem for people is that they think they have to go all in or it's not worth it
You know what I mean like right like okay, I know I need to exercise. I'm also right in my word
I'm overweight. I don't want to know so I need to work out five days a week. I think
It's a step ladder, you know, make yourself work out once a week.
Start with that.
One day a week, I'm going to the gym for an hour.
When you get to the point where that's sticks and that's a habit, then you can start to bump
it up a little bit.
And the reality is this is how I train my clients.
The way I train my clients is in this way.
We don't go to the next level until we've mastered this level. It's just like anything else. You learn a martial art, you're not going
to go in as a white belt and they're going to teach you black belt shit. You got to learn
what white belts learn before you move up to the next belt and so on. And it's very, very
similar.
This is something I just had this conversation two days ago with one of my clients that
I coach and asked me a good question, wanted to know realistically, if I'm falling
everything perfect at them and doing this and doing that, in a year's time, how much muscle
do you think I should gain?
Let me first tell you this, I said, don't get caught up in that rat race of trying to
chase a number that you want to get at or you want to obtain.
I said, let me, I think one mistake that people make is doing this.
And when you put things into perspective, it's, it's totally different the way you'll
start to look at things.
So for example, I said, take somebody who is a, you know, professional bodybuilder who
was hopped up on tons of anabolic steroids.
He is happy if he can add 10 pounds of muscle in a year.
Think about that. Think about that. Anabolicly induced genetic freak who's training
fucking seven days a week, non-zov is happy if he can put 10 pounds of muscle on per year.
So think about the average Joe guy who has a life, goes to school, goes to work, has a relationship,
has got a different job than bodybuilding,
and isn't taking a bunch of antibiotics.
Think about how much you should really expect
from your body as far as now.
We've talked before that, you know,
you have people that are responders
and can you get more than that if it's your-
And if we're a beginner?
Yeah, of course, of course, although it's,
but in reality, the grants keep things like,
overall, if you're making any sort of progress
year over year, it's great.
It's a journey like that.
You know what it's called?
Progress.
Yes.
And that's all progress.
And that's why what I was saying to him is like, you know, what we're looking to do
is to beat the yesterday you always were just trying to improve you.
And I said, the next little tip that I would give somebody, this is, this is, you meant
you brought up a mental game.
You play with yourself.
I have the same thing that I do that's very similar to you.
And what I do is whenever I make a decision that I'm going to get in super lean or bulk
and do whatever, but when I've made a decision on I'm going to do something as far as changing
my physique or a plan, maybe it's performance or related, I say, okay, this is day one,
here we go.
And part of my program is always,
there has to be, there's nutrition around it
and then there's consistency with training.
And what I do is I go after it.
And it's inevitable, you will fall off, you will get sick,
you will get hurt, you're gonna have these setbacks.
That's all part of this journey.
You know that's going to happen,
but you don't worry about that, you don't stress it
and you don't beat yourself up when those happen. So let's say I go and 15
days in a row, 15 days of eating good, doing everything I was supposed to be doing for
my training program, haven't missed anything. I'm 100% day 15. Boom. Work hits me. I'm
slammed. I'm stressed. I fall off for two days. I don't trip out. I get right back on
and guess what my new goal is 16 days. That's all I want to get to. My goal now for two days. I don't trip out. I get right back on and guess what my new goal is?
16 days.
That's all I want to get to.
My goal now is 16 days.
If I can get 16 days in a row of consistency,
I've now beat my personal best before 15 days.
And I just keep playing that game with myself.
I do that with every show.
Every show when I'm competing,
that's how I stay in that mental focus
of pushing my body to that limit.
Is I look at each day of nutrition and training.
I have an idea of what a perfect day looks like.
And I'm striving for that every single day.
If I don't hit it, I don't beat myself up.
I just try and better it next time and keep stacking on.
I like that.
Yeah.
And each time you do it, you're trying to get healthier.
Like do it a healthier way.
Yeah, better and better each time.
So awesome.
Dave Kresiminski is asking about the benefits
to training while high.
Are they ready?
High on what?
What, yeah, what are we talking about here?
So he's talking about...
He's, we're gonna assume he's talking about marijuana.
Cause that's really the only substance
that we're talking about.
Okay, ready, set, go.
You guys.
So here's the thing, the study's done on marijuana and exercise performance.
Demonstrate that it reduces peak power output.
It reduces your ability to react and respond to stimuli.
So some of your reflexes slow down.
So I don't recommend training while high if you're lifting weights or if you're looking for maximal power output
Now there has been studies that being that being said
anecdotally there's lots of anecdotal evidence that
People who are regular users by the way, but this is a big difference now if I took a bunch of people who've never
Had marijuana on their systems and get them really high and then go that tell them to do something, they're going to suck at it.
It's just, it's not a performance enhancer like that.
These are people who are regular users of cannabis and they're going to run straight to
7.11.
Or, or sit in the corner and cry because they're paranoid.
But these are people who are regular users of cannabis who understand the effects and are comfortable with the effects.
And there's lots of anecdotes and a delevidence
from high level endurance athletes, like 100 miles.
People who run 100 miles.
That's who they've done all the use.
They say training while high is awesome.
And I can understand this because there is a pain,
your pain tolerance goes up. Your ability
to find novelty and every day, every day things goes up. This is why people like to get high
and clean their house or do, you know, mundane tasks, they seem more, more fun.
Oh, this is interesting now.
Exactly. There's also, by the way, the runners high, we've all heard of this, right? What
people run for long distance and then they hit a certain point and they get the runners
high. Well, they've identified what causes the runners high. First of all, right, where people run for long distance and then they hit a certain point and they get the runners high. Well, they've identified what causes the runners high.
First of all, the runners high is real.
And number two, it's caused by an endocannabinoid.
This is a cannabinoid that is produced by the body called, and the one that they identified
was an endomide.
And endocannabinoids are structurally very similar to phyto cannabinoids which are found in marijuana.
So when you're smoking or eating-
Is it produced as naturally?
We humans, as humans, we produce endocannabinoids.
Endocannabinoids.
They've identified three of them, I believe.
One of them is the enanomy that we talked about.
So this isn't endorphins?
Like, we're talking about like-
No, our body produces them all the time
and there's reasons why we have them in our system.
One, there's reasons to have to do with the way you think,
your brain, how you forget things.
There's, it's a euphoric type chemical,
it affects things like depression, appetite.
And so when you're exercising at a high level
for long periods of time, your
body will naturally release an endomide or these endocannabinoids. And they think it's
to promote better performance during that period of time. So maybe I'm hunting an animal
and I'm tracking it or whatever and I'm getting tired and so my body, we evolve to release
this, you know, canabinoids to make us feel better. So when people get that runner's
high, they're actually getting high off of their own natural
Canabinoid. So it only makes sense that taking extra
Canabinoids from outside the body would improve upon that effect. I also have friends that train in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu
and
They say they love practicing Jiu-Jitsu
When they're high because they feel more creative,
they feel more relaxed, they're more flexible, and they're training when they're training Jiu-Jitsu.
And marijuana is big in the Jiu-Jitsu world. Marijuana and Jiu-Jitsu is like marijuana and surfing
or skateboarding. I've heard that. I've heard that and I've heard that the sport itself has evolved
like crazy because of they do allow like unlike most martial arts to allow people to
sort of come up with, yeah, with their moves and then people adapt to the stuff that, you
know, it has worked.
Well, dude, I mean, technique wise.
Eddie Bravo, who, you know, really popularized and invented some, someone say he didn't, but
he says he invented and I believe he did, he did.
Invented certain techniques in Jiu-Jitsu, like the rubber guard and all the sequences from there.
And Joe Rogan's one of his students.
He's a huge advocate for training in Jiu-Jitsu
while you've had some marijuana.
He says it helps him quite a bit.
That being said, if you're listening to this right now
and you're like, oh shit,
I'm gonna go smoke some weenigle workout.
Like I said, if you're not a regular user
and you don't like the effects,
it ain't gonna help you, it's gonna make your workouts shit. I've, I you're not a regular user and you don't like the effects, it ain't going to help you, it's going to make your workouts shit.
I've never trained under the influence.
The only time I ever use cannabis is in the evening and I use it for my own, you know,
mostly medicinal reasons.
I have, however, tried training while under the influence and I'm not stronger, I'm
not better.
It's sometimes, it's for cardio, it's cool,
because I get on the machine and I'm, you know,
30 minutes goes by and I'm okay with it.
But other than that, no.
I don't know about you guys.
Adam, do you ever train?
I've tried.
I've had buddies that are all about it,
and I'm not, I don't like it at all.
I don't like it at all.
No, I don't like it at all.
You know, and like I've talked about before,
the lifting weights for me is already meditative
and it's already my, I mean, Zen already,
you know, I don't want anything else to alter that.
And as much as I'm pro cannabis,
that's not the time that I wanna be like that, you know?
So not a fan of it.
Although I have done it cardio-wise a couple times
when I've gone to the gym,
like when I'm competing and I'm planning on getting on piece of equipment for a one-hour
straight, actually makes the time fly by, you know, and I can get into like some music.
I'll put some music in and I'll really do something.
And that's what the athlete is saying.
Yeah, really into the music. I'm not really thinking about what I'm doing. And so kind of takes
me away, which I enjoy that. But never, what I am ever again experiment with doing it with
lifting weights is just the little bit that I have been before but never what I am ever again experiment with doing it with lifting weights
is just the little bit that I have been before lifting weights, I saw no benefits whatsoever
to it.
Well, for me, when I lift weights, I lift with like an intensity, an intent.
Yes.
You know, I'm going to like, I'm going to grind this weight.
Complete opposite, right?
I'm a cardio or horse mogul.
Right.
Like, if I take anything, it's going to be caffeine or stimulant, right?
To get me in that like angry, like, you know, drive through type, if I'm,
if I'm lifting weights and I'm, and I'm super chill and real, I mean,
it doesn't work for me.
Now, if I'm in a stretch, if I did a yoga class, maybe I'd imagine
striking a conversation up with somebody about aliens while we're
working out.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, that'd be weird.
Josh Dusan is asking about the one thing
that you'd change about yourself
and is also asking why?
Oh, wow.
Who wants to go first?
Wow.
Nobody wants to do this.
Nobody wants to do this.
We should pick for each other.
Yeah, so we really do.
Yeah, this is a road to the-
What would I change about Sal?
I would be-
No, no, he'll know. Yeah, that'd be a dick. Are we talking about like physically or whatever? I think we've done physically it. This is a Russian though. What would I change about Sal? I would be like, no, hell no.
That would be a dick.
Are we talking about like physically or whatever?
I think we've done physically before.
I think whatever.
I think we should do it whatever.
I'll start.
I'll start.
Like a tick we have or something?
Yeah.
I'll start since everybody thinks on the guy who loves
everything about himself.
I'm like, the first guy to admit.
Oh, here it comes.
It meant there's stuff that I don't like about myself.
Because I was my dick was smaller.
Yeah.
You just, you just, you know, just being honest about myself. Because I was my dick was smaller. Yeah. You just,
you just,
we know what's threatening.
I was so good looking.
Yeah.
That's stupid.
It doesn't work what you do in Adam.
I have to do it.
What you do in it yourself,
narcissistic,
fucking guy.
So the one thing I would change,
I am a,
God, I am terrible at time management. I probably could be close
to a superhero if I had good time. You'd be a billionaire. Yeah, I would be a billionaire.
I'm pretty, no, I know actually I know I'd be a billionaire if I could. It's pretty much
math at that point. Yeah, I don't, I'm terrible with time management and organization. And
you know what? Maybe it's because the best advice,
which also, and probably being the worst advice
for me ever, was when someone once told me to,
do not focus on the things that I am not good at,
focus on what I'm good at and be great.
I'll never forget hearing that and going like,
wow, that just changed my whole perspective of,
you know, growing and getting better and stuff.
Instead of, you know, my thought of growing at that point in my life
was we can all find all the flaws I have
and try and get better at all these flaws.
But how boring is that to work on all the stuff
you already suck at?
How much more fun it is to work on stuff
that I'm already good at and be great.
So, I excelled pretty fast in my career early on
because I got that advice, but then now I look back
and I'm like, well, son of a bitch
I didn't spend any time doing the stuff that I fucking did.
This is why I have that deal.
I just keep finding ways to farm it out.
This is why me and you, Adam, if me and you became, we're just business partners, just me and you.
It never worked.
It would be horrible.
It would be horrible.
Because we have the exact same week we did down in flames.
It would be horrible.
Yeah, no, it wouldn't work at all.
Yeah, for me, besides that, because I'm horrible, I'm so unorganized, it's ridiculous.
My desk was always just a fucking tornado of shit all over the all over the desk.
But, uh, so I can't pick that one because you picked that one. For me, I wish I had a sense of direction. And I don't mean like in life. Like, oh, I don't know what I'm going.
Because I know where I'm going there. I mean literally like a Tom Tom. I mean literally I get lost so fucking easily. I mean, literally like a Tom Tom. I mean, literally, I get lost so fucking
easily. I am. This is a true story. This is, no, no, and I've identified. Okay, so you
know, okay, I'm gonna give you an example. You know how when you have your stove up at
the, like you have the stove top, right? And then the back splash the back is where you
have the knobs to turn on each burner. And next to the burner is usually a little picture
to show you which burner is going to turn on. And it's four circles and like the one circle it turns on is colored
in. So you know that that's the corresponding burner. You know I'm talking about. I
fuck that up every time because I'm I'm telling and this is not funny if you guys laugh your
assholes. There's definitely a dyslexic part to my brain because I can never quite understand
which circle is representing which burner.
I'm always flipping it upside down.
And this is what happens to me when I drive.
The funny thing is reading no problem, numbers, no problem.
But when it comes to other types of things,
I definitely have those traits of dyslexia
where I literally, things get flipped.
Like, I'll leave a parking lot and I'll go right
when I was supposed to go left.
Every single fucking time, every time. I'll leave a parking lot and I'll go right when I was supposed to go left. Every single fucking time, every time,
I'll get lost to everywhere.
I wish I could change that.
It's horrible.
It has prevented me from doing so much
because I don't want to travel by myself.
I don't want to get lost.
I mean, I kind of have the same thing.
That's pretty funny.
I've done that with the burners too.
Do you really?
Yeah, you really do.
I swear to God, I swear to God.
Sometimes it's scary.
What if we're brothers?
I know. We might be split from the same
So like sometimes he says a new like it's a new that's new to me you know we've been hanging out for a long time
We've talked hundreds of hours
Yeah, like dude you fucked the still thing up
You guys mics
thing up to. No shit.
I'm going to show you guys mics.
I'm going to show you guys.
I was at the check on my hand and shit like, oh, it's this way.
Dude, so this just happened to me.
Okay.
I feel like we have to talk.
We're like Marty McFly when you're not around.
You start like, you know, disappearing.
Yeah.
I'm going to get closer to myself.
So I was at my aunt and uncles this last weekend, right?
Visiting them.
And their upstairs bathroom has five switches
because it has the heated floor,
it has the heated thing like that.
And then there's one that's the fucking light.
And I end up every time I've switched those lights
on a thousand times I get to go through everyone
before I guess the right one.
And it's like, and I know it going into the bathroom.
I'm like, which one is it?
Like, it's always the last one.
All these problems just amount to being like,
fucking entrepreneurs.
Like, these are all like these problems, dude,
because I was gonna bring up for me.
It's like remembering like any detail
that doesn't have to do with work, I forget it immediately.
You say to me, it's gone.
Gone.
Tell me this date for this thing, or, you know,
I, as your wife always like, I told you 10 times,
Friday is the baptism.
She'll talk right to my face and be like, uh-huh.
And then like, I was supposed to like grab the keys
and go out and grab something from the car.
And then I was just, yeah.
And then I just like, somebody text me
and then I was, I'll send, I'm gone.
I'm so glad, I'm so glad you shared that too.
I hate that because it's like I
Can't even explain see how many millions of things are going on my brain at the time and
It's the stuff that's in front of me. That's the hardest. You know, it's the hardest for me to like stay in that moment like hey
So I get I get in trouble because I I do the exact same thing and I'm so glad you brought the
Yeah me too. This is great. Yeah, so I don't feel alone here, right? Because you know that I do every once about two because if it's something that
Like it's we're in the heat of like right in the middle of discussing something workwise
And I am so in it and she's trying to share tell me something and then I and I'm just trying to appease her but yeah
Yeah, no, okay, and then she tries to quiz me afterwards
Oh
Rose yeah, my wife and then she tries to quiz me afterwards, and I get a hell of a mat. Oh, it's gross.
Yeah, my wife really said,
when I just ask you,
what do you need to do tomorrow?
And I'm like,
I'm right in the middle of this right here.
Yeah, I'm doing an email.
So I'm not playing around.
I'm mad because I lost my train of thought.
I'm not mad at her.
I'm mad because I lost my train of thought.
No, I know, Zach, I'm mad at myself.
Yeah.
Well, let me ask you guys this.
So do you guys,
are you guys all or nothing
when it comes to that kind of shit?
I'm either hyper focused on something
and I'm just in it, or I'm like a goldfish.
Like I just forget what I just saw
and what I just get bounced off walls.
Yeah, so I'll be super into some
and anybody could tell me anything.
My, you know, family members will text me,
hey, don't forget Friday, we're doing that thing.
I'll be like, oh yeah, no problem.
Completely forget.
This is how I manage my business because I have to get around this, right? no problem. Completely forget. This is how I manage my business,
because I have to get around this, right?
Otherwise, I'll, I'm fucked.
I'll miss like appointments with my clients,
whatever.
This is what I do.
When my clients text me or ask me a question about something,
if I don't answer it, write that second, it will never happen.
Yes.
So I answer it right then and there.
I don't care what I'm doing.
If it client text me and says,
I can't really do.
Hey, Sal, you know, Friday schedule, can I can admit it to? I have to stop what I'm doing and check the schedule. me and says, I can't really do. Hey, Sal, Friday schedule, can I can admit to?
I have to stop what I'm doing and check the schedule.
Because if I say, oh, I'm gonna check that after I'm done
with this, it goes away.
It disappears into the ether, and I forget.
Well, and this is the thing that I try
and explain it to Trino all the time.
Because she gets so mad at me because she's just like,
are you gonna put your phone down for a minute and stuff?
I'm like, I'm working right now.
Let me finish doing this really quick.
You're working all day.
You're, well, couldn't you have handled that earlier?
I'm like, no, just came in right now.
And if I don't do it right now, then I'll forget about it.
And then tomorrow I'll be fucked.
And then I'll be buried in something else.
You're behind.
Yes.
You're behind.
Sometimes when you do a million things.
Beautiful.
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