Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 2895: Should You Train Each Muscle Twice a Week? The Data Says Yes - Here's Exactly Why
Episode Date: July 6, 2026Short answer: yes. Training each muscle group twice a week builds more muscle than once a week — the data is clear on this, and Sal, Adam, and Justin break down every reason why in this episode. Fro...m how fatigue silently kills your volume to why junk sets pile up when you try to cram everything into one workout, they pull back the curtain on what's actually happening inside your body when you split things up. You'll also learn why total training volume — not just sets, but reps AND weight — goes up automatically when you split your body across two sessions, and why that matters more than almost anything else for building muscle long term. The guys connect the science to real-world scenarios: bad weeks, missed workouts, leg day mental prep, and how to fuel the sessions you want to crush. They also walk you through the brand new MAPS Upper Lower program, a four-day-a-week upper/lower split built around exactly this training philosophy. It's the first four-day-specific program they've ever built, it comes in both male and female versions, and it's 40% off right now during the launch window. Use code LAUNCH at mapsupperlower.com to grab it. Products Mentioned: MAPS Upper Lower — https://mapsupperlower.com (code: LAUNCH) MAPS Anabolic — https://mapsanabolic.com MAPS Aesthetic — https://mapsaesthetic.com MAPS Performance — https://mapsperformance.com Sponsors: LMNT — drinklmnt.com/mindpump Chapters: 0:00 Intro 0:23 Episode Overview and New Program Announcement 0:48 Sponsor: LMNT Electrolytes 1:31 Why Twice-a-Week Beats Once-a-Week: The Data 4:16 Strength Gains vs. Hypertrophy Gains at Different Frequencies 6:18 Why Fatigue Is the Enemy of Muscle Growth 7:02 Power Training and the Plyometrics Mistake 8:43 Real-World Flexibility of the Upper/Lower Split 9:45 Better Exercise Selection and Eliminating Junk Volume 14:05 Total Volume Defined: Sets, Reps, and Weight 20:22 Training Intensity: Stop Short of Failure 22:31 MAPS Upper Lower Program Details and Launch Offer
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There's often a lot of debate on how often you should train a body part or a muscle group.
Well, guess what?
The data shows clearly there is a superior way.
We're going to talk about why you should train each muscle group twice a week.
Let's go.
Let's get it.
This is a cool conversation.
It's something I've actually mean to ask you because I know what the data says or what we talk about when we compare this one time, two time or three times a week that you would train a muscle group.
Do we have, is there good studies on four and five?
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
And controls.
Controls on a lot of these.
Because what comes to mind for me is when I think about today and the amount of stress and busy and poor sleep and technology and anything like that.
that like variables like that have to play a role too, right?
Of course.
You know, like somebody, somebody might think that, oh, my body would do better training, you know,
training the muscle group three times a week.
And maybe that's true.
If you're very well rested, you're, you know, very well hydrated, you're well fed, you're
in a calorie surplus, all these great, you know what I'm saying?
Like you're just focused on bodybuilding, then it may make sense that you can train at that
high a volume.
But like, how does that factor in these studies?
So they've actually done some pretty good studies.
on training frequency.
So there were early studies that made comparisons.
And the more frequent, you know, training style
produced better gains in the early studies.
But the criticism was that the early studies
didn't control completely for volume.
So let me give an example.
And we'll get more into this as the episode goes on.
But let's say you did 10 sets of bench press on Monday
versus five sets on Monday.
five sets on Thursday, I'd say. Same exercise. You're going to be doing, you're going to do
naturally more volume if you do it Monday and Thursday because you're going to be stronger.
So even though you're doing the same amount of sets, because you've split it up,
you're able to lift more on Thursday for those last five sets. And if you did those last five sets
after the first five sets on Monday. So what they've done under their studies is they've controlled
totally the volume. I've always thought of that is like it's just more effective because like you'll
perform it better at the same time.
And this, okay, so, so there's, there's, there's two parts here.
One is in perfectly controlled studies.
And then the second one is how does this actually work out in the real world?
Which is what I'm interested.
Right.
So the well controlled studies still show that training a body part about twice a week
is going to produce more gains than once a week.
Every additional workout, subsequent workout, you see diminishing returns or maybe no
additional gains in hypertrophy.
Now, there's a case that the data will make on strength,
but that has more to do with skill.
When we're talking about just building muscle,
the large body of evidence that we have points to two days a week.
All things being controlled.
Same exercise, same weights, same reps.
When they control everything, two days a week or hitting a body part twice a week,
builds more muscle.
I thought three was superior, but it was barely superior.
And so that was the argument was like, you know.
So three, you don't see a.
huge difference in hypertrophy, but you see a difference in strength. And that has more to do with
skill acquisition. Yeah, that makes sense. You're practicing the, I mean, in a month's time, you get
four extra practices of that lift. So logically, that makes sense. You're getting better at these
compound lifts and you'll get more. But I actually thought that it showed more muscle. Not a lot,
and that's why two tends to be the more favorable amount, because it's like once you do, once you hit two,
you're getting 80, 90 percent of the results, a whole other day or a whole other workout for 10 percent more.
It's like, I guess if you had the time and you have the dedication.
Yeah.
It also depends on like what people like two days a week.
You know, hitting like, for example, doing an upper lower split, which would be a good example of this, right?
Where you do like, let's say upper body on Monday, lower body on Tuesday.
You take Wednesday off and then Thursday, upper body, Friday, lower body.
So like a traditional bodybuilding split.
People like that kind of a split because you get the value of the additional frequency that builds more muscle.
But you also get the kind of bodybuilding feel, the pump within the workout.
Whereas full body workouts, which are typically the, what you're talking about, the three-day week.
Yeah.
You know, Monday, Wednesday, Friday, full-body.
Yeah.
You don't get the pump.
You don't get to really hyper-focus on a body part.
And so people who are more interested in hypertrophy and building and the pump, they tend to favor this twice a week.
And the data supports like this, this is pretty much where you're going to build the most amount of muscle, all things being equal.
So again, the data on this is clear.
So that's one reason why you should train this way.
The second reason is that fatigestion.
is that fatigue becomes less of a hindrance.
So when it comes to exercise or working out,
people view fatigue is a good thing.
And in some cases, it is, right?
In other words, if I'm training for endurance,
I have to train fatigue.
Yeah, you got to press the limit.
I have to press fatigue because I'm trying to get stamina and endurance.
With strength, fatigue is a problem.
Yeah.
You can't train strength if you're fatigued.
If you're fatigued in your training,
you're training endurance.
If you want to train power or strength, the less fatigue there is, the more you can train power or strength.
So this is why sprinters, when they're like Olympic sprinters, they don't run to fatigue.
They sprint explosively.
And then they come back and you notice that they kind of wait for a while.
I mean, this is our biggest, this is our biggest quam with jump boxes.
You hear us talk about on the podcast all the time is people do plios the wrong way.
If you're training for power, which is what plios are for, it should look like this, explode.
and then this long rest period.
Explode in this long rest period,
not this rep after rep to right.
Now you're training stamina.
That's right.
And this is why, you know,
they've done data to compare like rep ranges
and which one builds more muscle.
And previous studies showed that the lower rep ranges,
like eight reps,
10 reps,
let's say six reps even,
built more muscle than,
let's say, 15 to 20 reps.
But then there were later studies
that compared the two.
And so long as the rep ranges
or the training is close
to failure, they build the same amount of muscle.
So then everybody's like, oh, cool, 15 wraps or 20 reps builds as much muscle as eight
reps.
This is true so long as fatigue doesn't get in the way.
So give an example, if I go and train one rep close to failure of barbell squats for eight
reps versus 20 reps, for most people, that 20th wrap, what's stopping you is your endurance?
You're breathing hard, man.
It is not the muscular failure.
Yes.
And so it gets in the way.
So my lower reps tend to.
So fatigue is not what you want when you're trying to build muscle.
What you're trying to do is train strength and power.
And so when you split up your volume over two workouts, rather than doing them all in one workout,
for example, if I'm doing chest and I'm doing, you know, 16 sets on one day versus
eight sets on one day, eight sets on another day, same total sets.
Yeah.
But they feel very different because fatigue is not so much of a issue.
You know, this didn't make your list.
I also like this because I like this type of a split.
One of the things that I make a point of saying with the full body routine that I like is that you're hitting the full body.
And so even if you have a bad week and you don't hit, you only get a workout in or with that, you at least hit every muscle group.
I find the commitment to one or two days a week.
And then like even if you only got two days out of the week and you can pick right back up on that upper lower split, it's easier to do that versus like a these body part split.
that split up two.
You have one day to hit that body part.
Yes.
And if you missed that,
that's it.
Yes.
Which is traditionally what a lot of bodybuilders tend to lean towards this one body part or two that they focus on.
And I found that like, man, you just got to have a day or two off.
And then now it throws the whole thing off where an upper lower is really easy because even if I did miss a workout or two,
it's real easy to get back in the swing of that.
And I don't feel like you fall way behind on hitting a muscle.
No, that's a good point.
That's like a real life.
Yes.
Yep, that tends to be what happens.
The other thing is that splitting up your workout in half, let's say,
so you hit upper body twice a week, lower body twice a week,
split up the exercises so you could do half on one day, half on the other day,
both for upper and lower.
This allows you to focus more of your effort on the better lifts.
So, again, to use the example of, let's say, chest or back,
if I'm doing 16 sets for back in one day,
the last eight sets are not barbell,
rows, deadlifts,
your exercise selection is going to be completely different.
Yeah.
You're going to have to consider what's not going to be as taxing, right,
for one,
because you're just going to have to keep adding that in.
So you're going to lean more towards machines
and you're going to lean more towards, you know,
certain exercises of build volume,
but not necessarily the big movers.
This is where the term junk volume came from.
Yeah.
Is where, you know,
someone's doing everything in one workout for a body part.
and it's like the first five sets or six sets of the workout are legit.
Then the back half, it's like, now I'm just, you know, what do the body blow say?
I'm just trying to squeeze more blood in the muscle, trying to get more of a pump.
Yeah.
Which, you know, feels good.
I get that.
It's the finisher.
Finisher lifts, right?
But they're not the big ones that make the biggest difference.
Whereas if I'm doing, you know, instead of doing 20 sets of back on one day, I'm doing 10 on one day, 10 on another day,
I'm probably going to do a good, good, the best lifts on both days.
because of the point I made earlier with the fatigue.
This also, so this type of routine ends out working out to be basically four days of the week that you're lifting.
And then the other, so what I like about this too is personally for myself, it takes more mental focus and get up for like leg day for me.
It's just more fatiguing.
I want to train them harder to.
And so because it's just a four-day routine
And there's three days of flexibility in there
I schedule my leg days on my days
When I'm ready to get after it
Like that's I feel like I can I can cruise through my upper body
On a day where I don't I don't feel the best
I didn't get the best rest or that it does I don't feel like I need to feel my best when I want to train legs
I want to feel my best and so another reason why I like a split like this is that I can shift
That lower body day on or put a mental
you know, state that you're going to.
Yes.
When I'm, when I'm focused, when I'm rested, when I'm good,
it gives me enough flexibility where, oh, today I'm not feeling it.
I'm going to take the day off today.
Or, you know what, I'm feeling great.
I'm going to go after my lower body.
And then I'll rest tomorrow or whatever.
Yeah, this is kind of a split, like you're mentioning upper lower type split,
like our map's upper lower program, which is like what we're talking about, right,
where you're training each muscle group twice a week.
It allows for more volume than a traditional full body three-day-a-week routine.
because once you start to ramp up the volume on full body,
the workouts get too long.
Yeah.
You know,
they can turn into long workouts.
But when you split it up this way,
now you're,
you know, the time comes down,
but the volume is higher because of the way it's split.
Here's the other thing, too.
When you train a body part twice a week versus doing all of it once a week,
volume naturally goes up.
So there are a few things that are connected
that we can directly connect or correlate to muscle growth.
One is,
Strength.
Okay.
We talk about this all the time on the show.
Like, especially in the first few years of your, of your consistent lifting career, let's say, if you're getting stronger consistently, that tends to translate almost reliably, like 100% reliably to muscle.
Now, later on, it's not so reliable.
You know, once you get really strong, it's not like adding, you know, 15 pounds is going to really make a big difference when it comes to muscle.
But in the first few years, the best thing you should do is chase strength.
But there's another thing that is even more closely related to muscle growth that seems to be related regardless of how you've been lifting, how long you've been lifting.
And it's connected in the beginning.
It's connected 10 years later.
And that's your total training volume.
And volume naturally goes up when you split up your body and train it twice a week instead of once a week.
Why?
I made this point earlier.
You're stronger.
Yeah, you're not fatigued.
You're able to actually, like, perform the lifts well.
and then again too you're able to actually like load and progressively overload and then work on the strength aspect
and that's volume so volume people tend to think I used to think this I thought volume was just sets
yep but it's not volume is sets uh reps and weight weight yeah and so if I'm doing you know let's just
create a hypothetical right let's say I did 15 sets of barbell curls okay let's just say all in one day
and let's say I used 70 pounds uh and
And my first set was 10 reps, you know, 10 reps with good intensity.
I'm sure by the 15th set, I'm going to be down to like six reps.
Yeah.
Or five sets.
But if I did, if I split that up into two workouts, I would be able to complete more reps
with that amount of weight.
Yeah.
Even though the sets are the same.
A higher amount of weight.
I did more reps.
Volume went up.
And so this is where the studies that are really controlled, I don't think they tell the full
story.
Right.
Because they're controlling perfectly for everything.
No, no, no, do this many reps, do this much weight.
But in real life, when you split the body up,
without even trying because you've split up the volume,
you end up doing more volume because you're not as fatigued.
And what's nice about that is volume actually goes up,
and then the way this is split up different than like a full body
is you actually get more rest before you come back around to that too.
So typically if you have a three-day-a-week routine,
it's like a Monday, Wednesday, Friday.
So every other day you're coming back.
This would be Monday, Thursday, or Tuesday and Friday.
Right.
And so you've got a nice two days in between before you come back around to those muscle groups.
And so with the volume naturally going up,
needing a little bit more rest and recovery,
it just,
this is personally one of my favorite splits.
Yeah.
Especially when you were getting the volume up a little high.
Yeah.
And it's not too much so either.
And it's even like,
even though it's,
like we're talking about it being laid,
in a perfect scenario,
it's laid out like you said.
It's the, you know,
upper lower,
day off, upper lower.
But I,
again,
I always like looking at things real world,
like bad week I only get one in.
This,
sometimes it'll look like,
so for me,
lower body is always the main focus.
That's always, that's my weaker part.
And so if I have a rough week, I'm going to make sure I at least get my lower body in.
And then I'm going to pick up right where I left off the very next week.
Yeah, so it could be like upper, lower, oops, I missed a bunch, but I'll jump back in.
That's right.
Yeah.
That's right.
And so it's like, and it's still, it's a way I like training if I'm not doing a full body routine.
And I like that I still get to get that little bit of a pump.
Because as a, as the guy who likes to do bodybuilding type stuff, the one thing I don't like about full body.
I miss that.
I feel like this kind of a split is a nice bodybuilding slash strength building split.
Because the skill acquisition aspect that we like so much from practicing lifts frequently
is a little bit here, right?
Yeah.
I'm working my legs out twice a week.
I get to practice squats twice a week.
Or I get to practice rows twice a week or bench press or overhead press twice a week.
and there is value in practicing exercises more frequently,
all other things being equal,
because lifts are skills.
Well,
I would say that's probably the difference,
major difference between,
you know,
our version is the emphasis on those,
like,
specific type of barbell lifts
because you don't see that in every, like,
split program,
especially like, you know,
upper, lower,
like it typically leans a lot on machines.
Yes, yes.
Now, if you were advising somebody,
because I know we talk about this a lot
on the podcast.
But yeah, I feel like we still get this question of like, you know, is this for bulking or is this
for cutting?
It's like every program could be either way.
But do you think because certain, like, for example, this one has naturally volumes going
to go up.
Naturally, it's, it's leaning towards kind of strength and bodybuilding.
Do you think it bodes well or better for somebody who's trying to build?
I think, I would say if we were speaking specifically to the kind of split that we're talking
about, which would be like the, would be like our
map's upper lower program. This is
a moderate volume
body building, muscle building
routine. You could do
an upper lower split and make it
really crazy where it goes upper lower, upper lower, upper lower,
upper lower. And that would be a super
high volume salad training,
which most people wouldn't do well on at all. 99%
of people. Six days a week, yeah. Yeah, that's like
our map split program. Yeah, it's way too high
volume. Yeah. This is a really good, moderate,
it like this is a great muscle building program.
Now to your question, Adam, I tell you what,
like anytime you do strength training,
your goal is to build muscle,
whether you're trying to cut or build.
Sure.
Because if you're trying to cut,
you want to keep the muscle.
You're trying to build.
You're trying to build.
Yeah.
And so, yeah.
No, this is an excellent program.
I think it follows MAPS andabolic really well, too.
Totally.
Yeah.
It's a great follow up to that.
It's a great follow up to PPL.
Yeah.
It's like...
Disaggression from that, really.
It's the perfect kind of moderate volume
like I'm consistent.
I train.
I'm a normal person, though.
I'm not some like crazy genetic anomaly.
Yeah.
I'm natural.
I have a regular life too.
But I also like going to the gym.
So you got your four days a week in the gym
and the volume is split up very nicely.
Yeah.
And you know,
I should know this.
Justin will probably know better than me.
But this is the first time
we ever created a program that is specific to four days, right?
This is a, this is a,
yep, the only one I know of.
Yeah.
That's actually four days specifically.
A four day routine.
Yes.
Almost everything's either been three, six.
Some five, yeah.
Do we have a five?
We do have five, I believe.
Yeah.
So I don't think we have a board.
And we also made a man and women's version in here.
Just the programming is a little different.
Because women tend to want to build more glutes, more delts, you know, guys, a little more chest, quads, you know, type of deal.
So the programming's a little bit different.
But what you'll find, because I remember years ago, the first time I switched to hitting each body part twice a week,
one of the mistakes I made was I just duplicated my workout.
So I just doubled the volume and hammered out the intensity and overtrained like crazy.
Yeah.
And then when I realized, oh, wait a minute, I should cut the volume in half, try it twice.
And I thought, what's the difference?
I'm doing all the same amount.
Is it going to be the same thing?
No.
I got way better results from training this way.
Because you'll be stronger, like you said.
I was stronger.
I felt better.
I built more muscle.
Yeah.
And it just worked up.
You recover well with those days.
That's right.
Now, here's the thing.
Training like this, I think this is important.
know, and again, the data supports us for pretty much any program, but especially if you're hitting a body part more than once a week, is you train with intensity, but you don't train to failure. So that's a big mistake someone may make when hitting a body part more than once a week is they train to failure all the time. That'll fry you and will actually cause things to go backwards. And again, the data supports this pretty much for any kind of programming, but you're stopping about one or two reps short of failure.
Now, do you have a, like when you're splitting this like this, do you tend to one day of the week, you know you're bringing a little bit more intensity versus the other day?
Yep.
Yeah.
So that's how, like, typically what it looks like for me is back, again, back to that point I'm making about my legs.
Like the day, there's always at least a day in the week where I'm well rested, I'm well fed.
And it's like, and I go in and I feel good.
It's like, okay, I'm getting after legs this day.
And then my next leg day will be more kind of going through it, more of the practice, bringing the intensity down a little bit.
It's typically the first two workouts of that week or the heart of work.
That's the idea.
The Monday, Tuesday, heavier.
Thursday, Friday.
That's how it is.
That's how it is ideally for me.
The only thing that would make that pivot and change is if I'm going into it and I don't feel good,
then I'm like, okay, the next one I'll get after it today.
I'll just kind of go through the.
And then just to add a little extra, I mean, we're going to go a little into the weeds here.
But to what you were saying, Adam, if you're more upper body focused or more lower body focused,
I like to eat in a much higher surplus the day before.
So if I know tomorrow's upper body
You're getting after it, yeah
Then I eat more, right?
If it's legs for me,
well then I'm gonna eat more
The day before
to fuel that one workout that I'm looking at work.
And what's cool about this is,
you know,
and a lot of people are train
or train and train a very balanced physique
But a lot of people are like,
look, I work out the whole body
But I want to focus on my legs
Or hey, I try my whole body
But I want to focus on my upper body
And you can kind of do that
With a program like this
Where you place more emphasis
That's where I like that.
That's where I am.
Like I mean, I spent a lot of my early teens
or even early 20s of being very upper body focused.
And so, you know, most of my 30s and 40s has been like more.
Yeah, balancing out lower body.
So if I miss anything, I'm going to skip arms.
I'm going to skip an upper body type of workout, but I'm not missing legs.
Legs are going to get hit every single week.
And then that I want to put more of this.
This type of routine lends itself well to that where it's just like that's what you're going to get after.
Yeah.
So we have a program that follows this split.
It's a four day a week routine.
It's maps up or lower.
You can go to MapsUp or Lower.com.
Now, because it's a new program, it's 40% off.
So we do this anytime we launch a brand new program,
when you go to Mapsupperlower.com,
you have to use the code launch
to get the 40% off discount.
Again, the program comes with the male and female programming version.
And the program has workout videos, exercise demos,
coaching videos in there.
And when you sign up during the launch period,
you'll get some live coaching from one of our coaches
here at Mind Pump to kind of help.
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