Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 321: Nutrition Hacks, Macro Spillover, Fitness Icon Interviews & MORE
Episode Date: July 1, 2016The Eagle has landed! Quah time! Sal, Adam & Justin answer Instagram questions (@mindpumpradio) about nutrition hacks, the spillover effect of eating too much in one sitting even if it fits macros & c...alories, who they would like to interview from the fitness industry and the musical instrument they would like to learn. Get MAPS Anywhere at www.mindpumpmedia.com. Please subscribe, rate and review this show! Each week our favorite reviewers are announced on the show and sent Mind Pump T-shirts!
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MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, with your hosts.
Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews.
What is it about there's a certain quality about some people that you want to punch them in the face?
Do you know what I'm saying?
Yes. There's like a certain special, it's a special quality because there's people that annoy me.
There's people who are ugly, there's people who are whatever, and then there's some people who are none of those things. Yeah, but you just want to pummel them in the face.
There's that one that's special ingredient there.
Something, it's an X factor.
It's an X factor.
It's I call it the X factor.
Yeah.
You know who adds that X factor?
Hmm.
The leader of North Korea, what's his name?
Kim Jong-il.
His little chubby face. Don't you just want to kick him in his face?
Of course. I don't know why besides the fact that he's
dropped my cheek. Besides the fact that he's starving millions of people,
I want to just beat him up. You know what I mean? He doesn't poop.
Just give him a hard wedgie. Yeah, you know, I'm just fucking lifting my pants.
And then have Adam like just punch him in his stomach.
Thank you for your. And Justin will just take his lunch one. Wow
We went too far again. We can bully some people. Yeah, nobody would get mad if we bully the leader of North Korea
I mean, let us at least fuck bully some people. Yeah, yeah, he does have a people deserve it punchable
Punchable face dude. I I'm gonna have to go get the red hat
I really like to write every time I see Justin in the red hat. I really like the right every time
I see Justin in the red hat. I know that mad Mike has. Yeah, it's compliments all time.
When we made him, dude, that is a, I love the, is that our mascot? Are we going to, can
we call him? Are we going to call him our mascot? Is that our dude, mad Mike?
All right. I don't know if I would call it a man. I don't know if you would be a
mascot. It would be a mascot. He hasite, a mascot. I don't know.
Actually, it would be hilarious if we did get a big mad mic costume and had Doug run around
as a mascot.
I think that'd be awesome.
At events.
You know what I say?
Like, he'll run and do like, you just like randomly run up something and talk shit and
then run away.
He'll run up to a supplement booth and knock their shit over.
Exactly.
That would be awesome.
Or like, he'd eat it, pretend to eat it and then throw up.
Yeah. Girl like you'd eat it, pretend to eat it and then throw up. Yeah.
Girl like a tumor.
Yeah.
That's the best.
Yeah.
I'm pretty sure that we need to get a booth as soon as we can as some of these ex-pulsors.
I'm pretty sure in 2017 we're not going to be able to be allowed to even go into one.
So I think it's so.
I do.
I think it's important that we get into one soon.
Either that or-
I'll be disappointed if we're allowed in there. We just weird. Yeah. If they let us
know, like, no, I was easy. We need to go just to have a presence there. And I think,
you know, I talked to the boys that are boys with prodigy. And since they have a clothing
line and they like to do that stuff, I think, I think the next one that we just, we just
pair up with them, either that or our boys with blown gear. So either blown gear or prodigy, both clothing line and people
that we like and that are local Bay Area dudes that we were big fans of. I think it would be cool to
be. I'm just surprised. Well, I don't like to use the word surprised, but I did not anticipate
how much how many people would want like mind pump a peril. Like we have shirts that people are getting
and at tank tops, we have the hats,
and they do look good, but you guys know as well
as I do that, like a peril company,
like that's very difficult, and people like them.
Yeah, well, we're not gonna get rich doing it at all.
You don't see that.
You never know.
Well, yeah, you're right, you never know.
One can dream.
No, yeah, no, absolutely.
I think it's cool to have.
I think it's cool. Oh, it's crushing my dreams. That's what Adam does. Basically, I'm
like Adam. Do you think my calves will grow if I do this? Well, what's your other idea?
What's his? His Sal is really hell been on us being in a stuffed animal, which I think
is probably up there in one of the worst ideas. No, it's not. Let me finish. No, go ahead
and go ahead. Make it stuffed. Mad Mike, but put it in do something to where you can put
it in your car. Either hang it off the wind the mirror because that's totally
And still to hang dice off your mirror and shit right why not it can be
I'm just saying do sometimes yeah, I think a stuff a stuff Mad Mike not at all my daughter wants from real bad
Yeah, that's why I want exactly and then you know, I think I think we I think I can have one of those made
Especially for your daughter and I think I could do something really cool and brand it for her. And we could put something neat and scribe from his, her father to you.
I think that would be cute.
And I think that would be neat.
Do I think our podcast, uh, it would our audience would buy?
No, I don't think so. No, I don't.
Since somebody just recently did a whole, like, it's like a titty rucks.
Been. I think our, I think I said, I think I said, I think it's a titty
rucks.
I think there's a squeezy. I think there's a better chance
If it converts into a sex toy then it we could sell it awesome. Oh now we're on the yeah like it's it looks like a stuffed animal
But when it's full of debris it turns into the rad turns and circles and goes
Put your dick or or maybe it looks like a stuffed animal
But it has like a zipper and it holds your portable vibrator.
Yeah.
It does sound like a pouch for it.
It has some sort of use.
I don't, I don't, I don't.
I'm not a big fan of combining a child's toy with it.
Hahaha.
Hahaha.
This is a very solid point.
It is, I think.
It's almost like, it reminds me, yeah, it reminds me
when I worked at a red robin, and they had this idea
that they were gonna have shakes with alcohol in them, right?
Oh, let's get a rookie magic and then there was like the cookie magic or something which
was like, had alcohol in it and yeah, let's just say like a little switcheroo and
the kid was just drunk and puking.
What?
No!
It was like the worst idea I think I've ever... That really happened?
It really happened.
Oh, that is hilarious.
Bro, I just got all the drunk.
It's not a good idea.
Yeah, you lost you probably for some time.
Probably, yeah.
Wow.
It's just not a good idea.
This is the why I'm against.
So, times, yeah.
Most edibles because it's like,
fruity pebbles with 45 milligrams of THC.
Like, you know what, your kids actually, dad,
I ate all my cereal this morning.
Like, hmm.
Well, that's the biggest part of that industry.
Your eyes are red.
That's what was wrong with it.
I remember when we first started, why were brothers make sense?
I started the clubs.
Fucking pot heads.
We were trying to, we knew that, right?
Like, I remember they would bring them in and still is this way with cannabis clubs.
It's, you know, it's a difficult, as an owner, it was hard.
Okay, you obviously, you're concerned about margins.
So I need, I wanna get a cookie that's,
I can buy it for, you know, 250,
and I can turn around and sell it for five to six dollars
or whatever, right?
But what happens is the people that actually spend the money
in like packaging it in a safe package,
and warning labels, and making it professional and nice,
you know, those things would be like $3, $4.
And then I could get somebody who made it in their kitchen
who would sell it to you for half the price, double the dosage.
Granny's pot cookies.
Right.
And 70% of the people that were coming to pick up
buy the cookies from you, they cared more about the strength
of it than they cared about how it's packed.
So it was such a hard thing to deal with.
It's just so indicative of stoners, like,
I got, I don't ever go, hey, fuck, I got a headache, bro,
you got some I'd be profan, yeah, right here in this
Rice Krispy Tree.
It's a full dose of I'd be profan.
It doesn't make sense.
It's total stoners, bro.
Yeah, here, here, oh, you've got, you've got multiple
sclerosis, we have some medicated lullipops.
I have some, it does crunch.
Yeah, it does crunch. You just eat it and you'll feel much better.
You can eat this lollipop, it'll help you with it.
It just doesn't.
Dude, I know it's embarrassing.
Well, you brought up the company,
it was a bang chocolate, right?
Bang chocolate.
No, Kiva.
Well, Kiva too, I know Kiva,
but bang chocolate I thought you brought up too.
Also, I mean, both those companies are millionaire, dude.
I mean, I remember when they first started, I was one of the first clubs that they brought
to stuff.
Well, Kiva is my, it's got to be one of my favorite edibles only because it's so professional
and so accurately dosed and so consistent, you know what I mean with the dose.
And we knew that when they first, so I was one of the, I vented bang and Kiva when they
first came in.
That's the bang with an HBH, yeah, BHA and G.
Kang.
And here's the thing, the guy who owns bang used to have a chocolate cup.
So he was already had a factory, he already had a professional.
So he was way ahead of the game.
And I remember when he came in and his prices were really high.
And I was like, this is a matter because he had all the milligrams broken down.
I was super professional.
I could see it in a store at one point.
So I was like, man, we have to get with this vendor.
And they moved, they sold, but not as fast as obviously the person who had the homemade ones that were super strong and it was just unfortunate
But it looked look how it's paid off now because those guys were where regulations are thinking man. Oh, yeah
No, and I love I love seeing that I love seeing that it paid off for those guys and you know shame on everybody else that didn that didn't pick up on that and see it early and didn't take the sack.
What a good point too with entrepreneurship, how much it's like that in the battle of
attrition like we've said before.
Oh, come on, dude.
As soon as marijuana went from pure black market to somewhat of a much less regulated,
more open market, which is the medical market in California. The quality of the product has grown so rapidly
in such a short period of time, it's ridiculous,
it's crazy, five years, just five years.
You know, the edibles we have now,
and the products we have now are light years ahead,
and that's because we've allowed the entrepreneurial spirit
of, you know, capitalists and free market,
you know, entrepreneurs to compete with each other
and to try to produce better products.
And the winner at the end of this
is always the consumer.
It is.
And that's why I'm always supportive of.
The competition is awesome.
Dude, let it happen.
It's an excellent, it's an excellent example of free market.
It's an excellent example of how it managed itself to.
See this is it.
And it's brought the price down.
How much is a price?
Remember how much money you could get?
If you grew a pound of marijuana, if you grew a pound of marijuana,
if you sold a pound of marijuana on the black market,
you would make like five times as much as if you sell it now
in the medical market or the legal market,
like Colorado or Washington,
because that's what the market does.
Lower prices and you could go to the market.
It's such a wide five times, but it definitely,
I mean, they were, you know, when I first got into it,
a pound would go for $3,500 to $4,000 a pound in California. Places like New York, you would go 3500 to $4,000 a pound in California.
Uh, places like New York, it would go for five to $7,000 a pound.
Now it's like 2500, you know, it's, it's half the price for sure, which is,
but it also that makes it, it makes it very difficult for a grower too,
you know, if somebody who is getting into that industry, Justin's laughing,
I just, I'm just picturing like, yeah, man man back when I used to get grams like you know off this plane
Put it by house and you know then I would chop it up and you know
I just picture this whole like crazy drug operation. Well, you know the first time
So when I got in it was funny because when I got into cannabis
I'll never forget this uh when I had this moment or will you forget it? Yeah
I was back I was I was breaking everything up.
We're packaged in the containers and we're weighing in, measuring everything out.
And it was, you know, I had a pound that I was doing this.
And I had this moment where I thought to myself, that's a lot of weed.
I felt like it's really not.
Whoa.
I remember, I think the most amount of weed we've seen.
Yeah.
I remember going, wow, what a hustler you have to be to be a drug dealer.
Like I had this all broken out.
And I'm such a mathematic guy, right?
So I'm like, I'm looking at everything and I'm going, this is a whole pound.
This is all broken up and, you know, quarters and aides and grams and everything like that.
So all the different weights and how much that would go.
And I'm figuring it out, okay, well, this cost to me.
I just bought this from this farmer.
It cost me $3,000.
Once I sell all this off, I'm gonna make a total of $6,500.
So I'm making $35,000, but I'm looking at how many,
like that's like fucking 100 and something transactions
I'm looking at for me.
I'm like, man, if you're slanging dope as a kid
or a young adult who's getting into this, like, man, you can't make that as much money as you
think you can. Like this, this would take a normal person forever to sell all this off in
aides and quarters and ounces. No, no, no, no, this is why this is the opposite of promoting.
You would, you, it's not as, it's way more overglamorized than what it really is. Like,
the amount of, imagine if you took if you took these dealers and you just,
we're able to take their efforts and their energy
and their brains and we're able to focus it towards pencils.
Yeah, or whatever, or even just make the market,
make it legalize somehow or less regulated somehow.
Imagine the economic power that they could produce
with their minds.
Well, I really feel like myself,
some of my buddies that we, that's it.
We made people, yeah.
Just throw them out.
Just throw them out.
Those are common names and the fucking
3 million people listening to us.
I mean, how many?
I know that.
How many of you are talking to them?
Well, that's what matters. I mean, you many? How many? How many? Well, that's what matters.
I mean, you guys, you guys under nobody, everybody else is like, Oh, I wonder if that's
the.
I know.
My friend John, probably not.
My friend John McDonald.
I was.
I just put John Smith.
Yeah.
No, the, the, the men that I'm naming are these were really intelligent businessmen that
were not into, you know, into drugs or any of that stuff heading into the cannabis
world. So we treated it so different than the average person, the average person that
got into marijuana when it first or got into cannabis clubs when they first started to open
up, we're mostly, you know, black market drug dealers that said, wow, we can do this legally
now. All that the dudes go get a script to the license and now I can open a store.
And they're shakedowns.
Oh, totally, totally like that.
And so we're coming, here come these three nerds
that get into this business.
And we think we're going to legitimize it
in a matter of months just because we run our operation
like a real business.
And that was part of the fight for us was,
we were trying to take a legitimate,
we were trying to get companies like Bang and Kiva to be the main supplements and stuff that we offered
inside of our store.
But we were competing with these guys that were doing everything back door and shady.
And it was a major challenge.
And it still is for the industry.
It's changing though.
It's evolving and it's coming that direction.
But now it's becoming more legitimate and more like a real business.
And with that being said, it's not as profitable as a lot of people think it is.
It's profitable in different ways, not profitable like before.
No, not like before.
No fairness.
I mean, alcohol had the same birth.
Yes, absolutely.
Yes, absolutely.
And it was all like underground and all these shakedowns and you know shady shit that you know the government
coming in and like all the cops breaking everybody's stuff.
It's exactly like that.
What you got to realize is from an economic, just from a purely economic standpoint,
the literally the role of government and when it comes to drugs is to keep prices high
and to protect the cartels from competition.
Literally, from an economic standpoint,
that's what they end up doing.
End up making the margins so that these drug dealers
make shit tons of money because it's very risky to sell it.
And they eliminate any competition.
So you get people dying from overdoses and impurities
and all kinds of crazy stuff.
Whereas in markets, things tend to get cleaner and better.
It's going to be on the ballot, I believe, this year, right,
to legalize potentially in California.
Who's like, for sure will do that.
Amongst these candidates, who's got the stance for it?
Marijuana's going to be legalized.
It doesn't matter who wins, because it's now majority
of people support it.
They already were. It was like 50, 50 last time.
Yeah, it was real close.
It's there's already states legalizing.
It's it's all the to be honest with you.
You've been a fall.
It's proven itself business wise.
The only reason I'll tell you right now,
the only reason why it's not is not what you guys think it is.
It's opposite of what most people think.
The people that are voting against it are not not
not narrowed a non marijuana users are not.
I mean, maybe like 10% of those are Oh, it's the current people in the business
It's a black market it's a black market people
Yeah, if I'm a if I'm a drug dealer on the black market. I don't want it to go illegal of course not because I that's so
Those guys ever got out voted they're voting for that they're going out there since keep it illegal
They'd rather it be illegal
But you know that Marbro and all these like companies are chomping at the bit to just like change their crops
and all these companies are chomping at the bit to just like, change their crops.
Absolutely.
It's like, why wouldn't they just like,
how easy they've already got the operation?
That's why I think it's so,
I understand why you would wanna get out of that now
because once you get competitors back,
Oh, turn there, it's over.
It's like somebody asking me right now
if they should open up a liquor store.
I'm like, you can, I mean, do it.
I think if you're gonna get rich doing it,
like, good luck. There's one right up the street and there was one right
that way. And that way, there's a, there's a liquor store, you know, within a hundred yards
all directions. Now, could you make money selling alcohol if it was all illegal? You'd
make a shit ton of money. Yeah. And that's where that's where marijuana is at now. So
now everybody always, you know, hits me up and they're all interested in getting in the
business. I'm like, you know, personally, my opinion is you miss that boat, you know, hits me up and they're all interested in getting in the business. I'm like, you know, personally, my opinion is you missed that boat, you know, can you?
Absolutely. You can still get it open a liquor store and make money, but it's not like
the, it's not like when it first went. No. And unless what'll end up happening is a lot of times
when things get legalized or whatever is you get people who get in with the politicians and
you see this in certain states. And then they make laws eliminating competition.
So what they would do for example,
is California politicians would work with some other people
and they'd say to keep marijuana safe,
we're only gonna allow these designated places
to sell marijuana.
And reality what they've done is they've made a deal
with people to allow them to be the only providers
of whatever product.
They make their money, right?
Exactly.
That's the truth. And what they're gonna do is
They're gonna mask it as it's for our own safety, right? You know, we know we're only gonna allow five
Zoning exactly 100%
Oh shit, he's high
Bring it, Doug.
You don't like the Eagles Land anymore.
I like that when he did that.
Eagles Landed.
Shit, I'll bring it.
That's too late.
I like that.
Edit that in, Doug somehow.
Okay.
Somehow.
It's already in.
Do something about that, Doug.
All right.
Starting with B Fit Bree,
she wants to know Nutrition Hacks.
Nutrition Hacks.
Nutrition Hacks. Well, she had a long question. It's basically like, you know, when you have
a busy schedule or the new tricks that you can provide tips on how to provide, you know,
get the life-resistant food. Get the life-resistant food.
The mentality. Yes, exactly. Here's a thing for me, at least, especially if I'm on the
road or, you know or I'm busy.
A grocery store is usually as easy to find as fast food, or almost as easy to find as fast food.
So if I'm in a hurry or I'm on the road
and I need to pull over to grab food,
I can usually find a grocery store
just like I can find in McDonald's or in and out.
And at the grocery store, I'm able to find
healthier alternatives,
typically, a lot of these grocery stores, like Safeway,
will have like salad bars with fresh,
you know, where I could put fish in my salad,
I could buy jerky, I could buy nuts, I could buy fruit.
A lot of these places will sell vegetables
where they'll have like the,
the deli counter, where behind the deli counter,
they'll have like prepared foods that you can get.
This is a horrible tip.
And well, I'm just, I'm just saying in terms of why is it a horrible tip?
Nobody goes to stop the grocery store when they're hurry driving their car, dude.
I'm saying if you're gonna stop,
yeah, but I know she knows that.
You don't think she's gonna...
I wouldn't hear what else she's gonna say.
Is it a grocery store?
Yeah, I keep going.
So yeah, I keep going.
I'm curious.
You go with your horrible tip.
Well, why don't you start with it?
No, no, no, no.
Like, I like hearing it.
I don't think it's a bad idea.
I just love how it's done in elaborate detail,
but yeah, what whole phones look like.
That's why I'm saying, I think she knows what's in a grocery store
and what she could get out of a grocery store.
Well, all I'm saying is it's as easy to eat healthy
as it is to not eat healthy.
That's all I'm saying.
I'm thinking more hacks like this.
Like, you know, I find when I'm on a go and I'm really hungry
that, you know, when you eat something high
and saturated fat, like it helps satiate you. And so then you go a lot longer without. So keeping
like, I think you think of it hacks like to affect appetite. Yeah. Like I think it's more like that.
I mean, yeah, I mean, if you're grocery stores are definitely the place to go instead of fast food
for sure, you know, that's,. You're always gonna have better choices there.
But what are some, or incorporating fasting?
I think that's another great, a lot of time,
we get so caught up in this, we need to eat our meals,
every two to three hours, there's huge benefits
to meal skipping, especially when you're trying to lean down,
which I feel like we're all trying to lose body fat.
Very few people are concerned about,
oh, I need to be eating this surplus all the time. So, you know, getting out of
that mentality of being afraid of, you know, not eating for a little while. And if it's
a hunger thing, because you're like, oh, my God, my stomach's growling, then, you know,
having things like macadamia nuts or a high fat, you know, an avocado, like one's the last
time you ever just ate an avocado. And you, you know, Sally, you were the one.
That's why I think it was a terrible tip
because I think you have better tips than this.
I think that when you do a little bit of olive oil,
a little bit of olive oil on an avocado with some salt.
Are you hungry right now?
Yeah.
You need a nutritious,
I was the guy with all the recipes.
I got a tip for you anyway, continue.
Yeah.
So, and that's another thing.
We make a lot of, you know, I make these little Reese's Peanut Butter Cup
fat bombs, they're really high and fat.
They have a little bit of protein in them,
they don't have much for carbs.
And we freeze them and they make little Reese's Peanut Butter cups.
And I keep those always in my freezer.
And if I'm on the go really quick,
I can just grab them and I can eat them on the road
while I'm heading somewhere.
And it's something that I made I created.
It's not a processed fucking protein bar
that I bought from somewhere.
So things like that, cambucha.
You know, I feel like cambucha is something
that's very filling for a drink.
So a lot of times I'll grab a cambucha
and then I'll sip on it, you know,
through between meals.
Are those like cambuchas?
Huh?
Our cambucha is a cambo-com.
Is it calm? Is it calm? I I think so Doug. I know Doug is
Japanese
That's left
It's a camera. I always say kombucha, but that's oh
I'm fairly we're both right. I know honestly. I think it's kombucha kombucha
kombucha
I think I'm pretty close to try to give me
I know Adams gonna fuck something up. We're
shooting him. Oh, mine's horrible. Oh, really? Yeah. We can't say kombucha. And I know I
don't I'm just teasing. I don't think that South tip is horrible. I think if you have the
discipline to to not drive through somewhere when you're hungry and go to a grocery store,
I think that'd be ideal. But I just think that's kind of obvious. I think everybody kind of knows
that, you know, what are some things that you utilize
to fight off hunger or to make sure you make a better choice?
What didn't you like post something about people
who like get like scoops of peanut butter
and like a coconut fat and stuff like that?
Or are you talking about that the other day?
Instead of just not eating, you mean?
Yeah, yeah.
Cause I know I've, because they needed the matric.
Well, I actually have done that.
You know, like, you know, I think somebody was talking shit
about it, but I was like,
way man, you know, like I, well, sometimes I'll just take
a scoop of like coconut butter and I'll eat on that,
you know, just to keep me going.
It's actually pretty good.
No, once again, this was another thing that I got from
Sal, that's why I think he was a horrible tip.
He's given me way better tips for nutrition,
where he actually got from Sal, that's why I think he was a horrible tip. He's given me way better tips for nutrition where he actually got this coconut, coconut oil peanut butter from
what was a whole freezer treasure.
I think it was, hopefully.
Yeah.
Awesome.
It's peanut butter with a little bit of a coconut flavor twist to it and it's much better
choice for you than regular peanut butter. It's not all the artificial fake shit in it.
It's all natural. So I'll take a tablespoon of that
when I'm trying to fight off hunger
and I'll just suck on that or eat that,
you know, one or two tablespoons of that
and that feel that satiates me.
So yeah, I know there's,
I think it's all like shopping, right?
So like as much as you can load your house up
with like things that are gonna benefit,
like it's tough when you,
when you have like kids and like,
there's different things that like you'll compromise with,
but like as much as you can set yourself up,
like in your own house,
and then you can like, you know,
pull some of those items when take them with you on the road
and all that, like that's where I get the most help,
you know, cause yeah, when you're on the road,
it's tough, man.
Like there's, there really, you are not set up for success
when you're relying on your environment
to get like food from.
Another thing that I, you know what,
you just spurred something for me.
Sometimes when I'm hungry, especially if I'm fasting,
something this just does it for me.
For whatever reason, very, very cold, fizzy water,
tends to make me feel like I'm not just drinking water.
Yeah, yeah.
And what I'll do sometimes, I'll get one of those sampler greenos, I like, that's my favorite one,
I'll get a real cold, and I'll put a slice of lime in there.
I did that.
Remember you told me that when I was going through the process, because I was like kind of having
with draws with alcohol and like beer and stuff, and like that was a good, you know, you do that,
you salt the rim, then you get that.
Yeah, you put salt in the rim and then you put
a little lime in there.
At least you feel like for like a split second,
it's a beer.
Exactly.
That's a good survey.
So I know I get some better tips out of you.
You know, I just, you start to keep hammering now.
Yeah, you know.
No, there's a squeeze.
Here's another one that I've learned about, you know,
my food choices when I first started the day.
I used to, it was all when I first started the day.
I used to, it was all through competing for the longest time.
My staple breakfast was like, you know, a bowl of oatmeal was in there, you know, for sure.
You know, I'd have other stuff too, but you know, I used to love eating oatmeal early
on in the morning.
It's got, you know, great benefits to it.
It's high in fiber.
It's a good source of carbohydrates, blah, blah, blah.
So I would start my day that way.
But what I realized when I went ketogenic
and I got rid of carbs like that,
what a difference my appetite felt throughout the day.
So carbs actually kick started my appetite.
And then I found like myself two hours later,
I'd be like starving for another carb.
I wanted more food right away
where when I started having really high fat breakfast
where I would just, I would load up the bacon
and I'd have whole a's with a little bit of, you know, organic cheese on there and avocado like, man, I'd have that
breakfast and I'd be fine till I could go three o'clock in the afternoon and not eat a
meal and be totally fine. So, yeah, to me, that's another hack that, you know, if you're
somebody who's trying to diet and lean down, you know, counter cultural hack. It is. That's
why I like it. I think it's so different to how we've been taught. We have cereal, oatmeal, you know, shakes, all these things are what we tell people,
fruit, all this stuff to have in the morning. Well, you know, switch your way of thinking and go
a really high fat breakfast and get a majority of your fat early on the day. And that helps
satiate me through the rest of the day. So that's a, that's changed the way I, I, I,
I eat based off of what I'm trying to do as far as, uh, leaning or bulking or whatever.
Fit girls struggles 85.
Can you eat too much in one sitting?
Does it spill over and is it stored as fat, even if it fits your macros and calories?
Yeah, this is one of those myths that just won't die.
Oh, it spills over.
Yeah, like you, like you can only absorb, you know, 30 grams of protein, you know, uh,
per sitting, or you can only absorb you know 30 grams of protein you know per sitting or you can only
Absorb X amount of calories per sitting
Here's the thing the body doesn't work that way. It's actually a longer process
Spilling over eating too much at one sitting will make you sick usually
And of course those extreme examples of people that can consume ridiculous amounts of food at each sitting.
But for the average person who's healthy,
you don't have to worry about this.
If you're trying to get in 150 grams approaching a day,
you can do it in six meals or you can do it in two meals,
and it's pretty much all gonna get utilized.
Most of it won't get stored as body fat
unless you're in a surplus.
That's really what counts in terms of storing body fat body fat unless you're in a surplus.
That's really what counts in terms of storing body fat.
So if you're hitting your macros and your calories, eating it all in fewer meals is absolutely
fine.
And right now, lots of science is showing that the fasting period beforehand and then having
the large meal has a lot of benefits.
The majority of my calories come in one or two meals. You know, I have one, maybe if I eat 2,000 calories a day,
I might have one 500 calorie meal and one 1,500 calorie meal.
And that's typically how I'll eat myself.
And doing it that way works a lot better for me
because most of the day then I'm not eating any food
and I just have more energy.
So I wouldn't worry about eating too much at one time
in terms of what the supplement industry has told you,
which is you're wasting your protein.
You need to eat every six hours,
so here by our bars and by our,
and the funny thing is too,
who picked this arbitrary 30 to 50 grams of protein,
you know, per sitting?
I mean, they did.
Why? Because it's gross to fit more of that
into a protein bar.
I think they just picked that number out of the air,
like 50 grams of protein.
That's the most. Because that's the most that they'll put in their servings, bar. I think they just picked that number out of the air, like 50 grams of protein, that's the most.
Because that's the most that they'll put
in their servings maybe, I don't know.
Well, no, there's some, right?
How fast your body assimilates it, right?
I think there's, it's more correlates to that.
Like your body, it takes it for every hour
to assimilate its X amount of protein that it converts,
but it just keeps doing that, you know,
ongoing for the X2440 out.
So if you load it 100, it's not like you get to use 50
and the other 50 just gets gone, go, or goes the ways
where you shit it out, you still use it.
There's some truth to the spilling over though.
And there is, so this kind of goes back,
we just aired this episode where we talked about,
you know, the body doesn't work on a 24 hour clock
and that's another problem with, you know,
getting caught up in, you know,
if a picture macros are falling on macro counter type
of mentality because, you know, two days
can be so different activity level wise,
and that could have a reflection of that.
So if you add, let's say,
and we're just gonna use hypothetical flat numbers
to make it really easy to understand,
let's just use 2000 like Sal said.
Let's say that's your maintenance.
And yesterday I ate 2000 calories, but I didn't do anything.
I just sat around all day long.
I didn't train and do anything, but I ate my 2000.
And then I come into today.
And today I overconsume I eat 2,500 calories.
Yeah, there's gonna be a spillover
because of my body, those extra calories
have got nowhere to go.
They don't have no work that I just recently done
that need to be partitioned over to building muscle.
I didn't have a huge activity day.
I probably didn't deplete my glycogen levels
from the day before.
So now this over consumption is gonna go into,
you know, getting stored as fat.
Yeah, but that's she's asking about is there spillover if your macros and calories are all
okay? So you know, flip now flip though, right? Same thing. Now that same person, let's just
say that the day before they burned a ton and they did they ran for five miles, they trained
a hard leg day or they maybe they do that this morning, the way those calories are gonna get utilized
in partitioned and the way that you would
or would not over spilt completely changes.
You gotta think of that like that,
because it doesn't always work this way,
where we have this perfect number that our body is,
when you figure out a maintenance level
or you figure out your macros,
it's still a generic number,
even if it is individualized for you and your body, our metabolism and everything is free-flowing and forever changing. So, being aware of that,
being aware of that, or like how you mentioned coming off of a faster than consuming. If you
have an eight for 15 hours, your body is tapped those stores. It is completely utilized all that.
So then you consume your 2000 calories that you need to.
And then yeah, not only does none of it over spill,
but all of it goes to good use
and refilling the glycogen stores
and filling your muscle bellies up
and going to first-doored energy.
Somebody who didn't move whatsoever,
and they didn't work out, and then they over-consume on there,
they could, and they eat 2500 calories,
they could over spill, and it would over calories, it could over spill and it would over a spill.
So understanding your activity level, what you've done training wise, plus about where
you should be maintenance in a general sense matters more.
Does that make sense?
You're just talking about surplus versus like activity, exact.
Exactly.
So that's, I mean, that's, I don't see that as part of the question as much, but
like I, I know what you're talking about as far as that's concerned. Well, that's where
them, that's where this myth gets generated from. That's why, because I'm trying to get
you guys to understand is that that's why? Because there is, I mean, there it, you can
absolutely overspill. Well, the turn, but you would have to over consume. Now, can you overspill
and hit your maintenance for a day? Yes. If you, because what happens if you,
if you over consumed the day before or you didn't burn enough the day before,
so your body has more stored energy going into this day. And then you consume.
Right. But, but I think she's, she's asking about per meal, that one meal, like,
yes. No. If I, if, if today, if I ate a thousand calories today, and that thousand
calories was all getting burned, but. But I ate all that thousand calories
in one meal. Does that make a difference versus one meal versus three meals?
No, no, yeah. And that's the question. And no, there's no. And the term spillover comes
from the fucking bodybuilding world. I think that's really why we were trying to address
this because that's the myth. That's something that we want to steer people away from thinking in those terms.
We're given perfect case scenario.
I've done my workout.
I've planned my meals accordingly to my schedule of macros and everything's balanced and all
that.
But now, eating within this window and then eating a specific amount, it's going to have
this spill over because
I've over-consumed when in fact, I don't see that as, I don't know where to go.
Well even the term spillover comes from car bloating.
That's where they use that term.
The spillover, I've never heard that term.
I've heard it.
It's a good term to me.
I think it helps people understand what's going's going on when you when you eat more than
enough fuel or of energy. So you have a bucket and you spill it and then it spills over
and then you know, the body has no, it doesn't need it. So where does it go? It's just
that. One meal for me, I just I don't know. I look at it like surplus versus, you know,
like deficit versus maintenance. Like I don't, I don't know that like, you know, I just, I don't know, I look at it like surplus versus, you know, like deficit versus maintenance.
Like, I don't, I don't, I don't know that like, you know, I'm going to put all that weight on like one meal.
Like it's over the extended.
And that's the point I'm trying to make.
I'm trying to make that the overspillage thing is a true thing.
It does happen.
It can happen.
So would one does, is it dictated by a one meal?
Absolutely not.
What you're, what Sal is saying is 100% true.
1500 calories eaten in one sitting versus spread out over three
is no fucking difference.
Yeah.
But can eating a 1500 calorie meal over spill you?
Absolutely.
If eight hours ago you just consumed another big huge meal.
You haven't had any act.
That's because what I'm trying, what I'm trying to get across is that it
doesn't work on a 24 hour clock.
Yeah.
So think of it like this.
If I ate a dinner at 9 PM at night, it was 1500 to 2000 calories. Then I come right over at six
o'clock in the morning, and I have a 2000 calorie. That's within less than 24 hours, I'm
hitting, I'm going over my maintenance. So can over spillage happen right there? Absolutely.
Now we'll level itself out because now you don't eat again for the next 10 hours because
you just have to be mindful of the exact process right now. And that's what I'm trying to get out is that, you know,
the over spillage thing is there's science to that. It does happen to the body, but we don't work on
this pretty, this perfectly 24 hour clock. Yes, you does 1500 calories in one meal versus three.
It is, is there a difference? No. And in fact, there's more science that supports what's out.
It's probably even better. It's actually probably beneficial
to allow yourself to eat more
and then less sometimes rather than be this perfect.
Absolutely.
And relating your calories, I think,
is just as important as your workout.
Yeah, I don't think, I think,
because, again, in the fitness world,
they tend to take things and break them down
into like perfect boxes and say, okay,
2,500 calories, that means you need to have this many calories
per meal, this many grams of protein per meal,
this one many grams of carbs per meal and fat per meal.
And this is why you have guys eating the same shit
all day long because they've measured out exactly
how much tilapia it takes to hit the protein.
Exactly how much brown rice it takes to hit my carbs.
And then they look at food as protein carb or fat.
And that's it, right?
Oh, I need some fiber because I think it's good
for me.
Some throw in some asparagus.
No, I'm throwing some metamusel.
Or metamusel.
Yeah, I'm in a supplement.
It's normally what happens.
Yeah, I'm not sure how to get this in my diet.
So I'm just going to fucking take it.
Dude, you know what?
I couldn't help but think of this as the question was even asked.
I was thinking about those hot dog eating competitors.
I'm like, what about that guy that has to like process
all that in one sitting and then shit it out?
Oh my God, that poor guy.
I feel bad for the plumber.
Spill over is what I'm saying.
Diary of a fit guy.
If you could interview anyone in the fitness industry,
who would it be?
You know who that is?
No, Sean changed it.
Oh, that's the dude from the, he changed his name. That's right. He's. That's right. He did. He changed it like twice. My bro stopped doing that. I was like,
oh, the answer this question. I got to disguise myself. We're on to you, Sean. We're on
to you, buddy. Yeah. I if you could interview anyone who would it be in the fitness industry,
huh? What does Arnold still consider? Is that is he still out of the good one? Yeah.
That for sure. He's been a hero of mine for
his own child. Part I would love to ask him about the old days of
bodybuilding. But I'd also love to ask him just general questions.
I mean, he's a he was an immigrant. He kind of embodies the American dream,
whether you like him or not. The guys accomplished some amazing things.
And I think I'd like to just ask them,
you know, lots of questions about business and, you know,
life and bodybuilding back in the 70s.
That would be definitely easily my number one person.
He'd be my number one person, period,
not just fitness industry,
but one of my top people just to meet and talk to.
I think he's fascinating.
As far as other people in the fitness industry,
that's a tough one
Lane Norton would be cool to talk to
Well, I think
We don't we wouldn't agree on everything, but he approaches things I think from
You know a pretty good viewpoint. He tends he's definitely a smart guy
I'm surprised you said that I was gonna say that because I didn't think any of you would say that because I think we're so anti
Well, he's I'm not I'm not anti. I don't think any
of us are anti Lane. If anything, we've only ever said things good, you know, most good things about
him. There's definitely differences of opinion in certain arenas like artificial, you know, when it
comes to artificial sweeteners and and stuff like that and not. But he's one of the he's one of
the smart guys in the fitness industry in terms of actual exercise programming,
actual how to train a certain way.
He's taking I.F.I.F.Y.M.
He approaches it a little differently than other people,
but he does tend to get a little more extreme than I would.
But I would like to have a discussion
in an interview with a guy.
I think it would be fascinating.
He'd be cool.
I think we'd be respectful.
Oh, he's a very smart guy.
That's what I'm saying.
Yeah, I love, and for me, I was gonna pick him because I, Arnold, I think, we be cool. I think we respectful. Oh, he's a very smart guy. That's what I'm saying. No, I love any end for me.
I was going to pick him because I, you know, Arnold, I think we would probably all agree
to probably number one for all of us, right?
I think you're in Justin.
Yeah, I know.
I loved, yeah, I think I think Arnold, you know, it would be a fun one, since you still
lame for me is maybe Brett Contreras, I think would be cool to have.
Oh, yeah.
I think he's, I think he's a cool dude.
I like his, I like his approach. I like a lot of his, a lot of his stuff that he writes, a lot of his videos, a lot of things that he puts out there and promotes.
Very smart guy.
And I like how he, so you have to be clever in this fitness industry to make good money and not be this like supplement whore, right?
So, not really though, right?
Like you, I mean, we've chose to take a different path.
I mean, it would have been much easier.
We're still whores, we're just not so far.
No, but it would still, and it would be much easier right now.
We'd all be able to stop our other jobs and careers
and fully focus on mind pump
if we had a supplement line, 100% it already
has enough people it generates already enough natural revenue that if we actually had a
perishable item that people had to buy every single month, we would all have a six figure
incomes and be happier than pigs and shit. But in reality, we've chose to go a different
path. I like how Brett and chairs is kind of done the whole like gone after the whole glute guy thing like the butt
I think it's such a hot topic for men and women that want to want to learn how to build the ass and there's a lot of
A lot of things to learn and a lot of myths out there around it and I think he addresses a lot of it and he and he's
He's built a business
Around it and I think that was what drew a lot of people to him. And then you come to him, then you find out that he's a mobility expert.
And he really knows his program design and he's, uh, and he looks like a natural
normal guy too.
He doesn't, he's not somebody who's all steroided out and has done things all
fucking crazy.
He's a smart dude who knows what he's talking about.
And he keeps it real.
And I like how he's marketed himself around that. I think it's
You know, I think it's really easy. He could have went the gimmicky route with that and he didn't you know, and I think
I have a lot of respect from and I think you'd be a fun character to to have on the show totally
Well, he's not necessarily
Fitness related, but I really like Tim Ferris and I like listen to his podcast and how he
usually lots of nutrition stuff on there.
Yeah, yeah, but I think that he would be, I mean, just his work ethic is unreal, as far as
like somebody's supposed to just ironic because he claims he only works four hours in a week.
That is ironic.
Good point.
Yeah, but I mean, some people like avel would be like one of my top picks,
just because the guy is a badass and he like has just opened my eyes to some of the different
ways of training and strength training specifically. I think I think we would all have a lot
of fun with somebody like Mike Moller because he's just very off the cuff in super
intelligent guy as well.
But I mean, he's very specialized, but he specialized himself, specifically business-wise.
He's very strategic and I actually met the guy at one time at a conference and he just
has a really unique perspective and did a great job marketing himself
and obviously knows his shit
and has great technique and everything.
But yeah, he would be a fascinating guy as well.
You know what would be cool would be to interview
some former Soviet block coaches.
Yes, like some...
Some for that.
Wouldn't that be sick?
Just to find some like ex- like coaches and scientists from Soviet Union
Days where they were just dominating and strength support they fascinate me more than anybody because they were so focused on
you know biomechanics and improving like sports science and
You know the human body and I think that they were light years ahead of us, dude. They were funded
I think that they were light years ahead of us. Dude, they were funded by,
they had lots of money to experiment
with all kinds of different things.
And the ethics were a little bit different.
It's where they kicked the shit out of us for so long.
That's what I'm saying.
It's what they kicked the shit out of us for so long.
It would be cool.
But it would be cool to sit down with them
and just ask them like, you know,
because they were the ones that really pioneered
high, high volume, high, high frequency, but sub maximal intensity type workouts, right?
They weren't like going to failure with their lifts, but they were doing, these
Olympic lifters were lifting for hours a day, just practicing a lift over and over and
over. And their athletes just destroyed, you know, our athletes. It'd be so cool to sit
down with them and talk to them. And then it would be cool to sit down and talk with,
you know, I always wonder what everyone's gonna be like
that once we get them, like, I was really excited,
excited to, ex-arded.
Got it, like, yeah.
That's so, I was excited, I farted.
I was excited.
I was excited.
Yeah.
I was so, I was so excited to interview Mark Bell.
And I thought that was pretty weak.
You know, I was excited to meet him. I was excited to talk to him. And I thought that was pretty weak.
I was excited to meet him.
I was excited to talk to him.
I thought it was gonna be awesome.
And then it was like,
you know what I mean?
You never know until you get somebody like,
a lot of these people are great.
They're so good, they're craft.
And then when you're like talking to them,
I mean, we just had an interview recently about someone like,
this guy was a no personality.
Another person I was really excited to interview.
I thought they were just gonna be fucking hilarious.
And then it was like,
Well dude, this is what we gotta do.
Cause with this question,
I'm considering like someone I wanna meet.
That's why Arnold is awesome.
Oh Arnold is charismatic.
He's charismatic, he's funny.
He would be just, he would be a fucking blast.
And there's no doubt about it
cause you've seen him already on interviews.
But then we gotta think about what would be good for the show. And you know what we gotta got to do, dude, from now on, it's just, we just, we have someone on the
show, we just do our show, and they're there.
You know what I'm saying?
Do I think people, it's hard.
Yeah, but it's hard to, it's hard to predict.
It's hard to predict.
You keep saying that every time we have a shitty interview, but I'm like, that's so hard
to do with the fourth wheel.
Yeah.
We're, we were made to be, we were made to be a tricycle, dude.
What if we just, yeah, we are a tricycle. Yeah, we are a tricycle with, well, and, we were made to be a tricycle, dude. We just, yeah, we are a tricycle,
with Doug and the kickstand in a tricycle.
I'm saying we're a side cart.
We're a side cart.
You know, we just don't do good with four wheels, dude.
We don't.
What if we did this way?
What if instead of saying we're gonna interview you,
we said, would you like to be a guest host
on an episode of Mind Pump?
And then they're just fucking guest host
And we just talk about shit do Q&As and then they can help us that's I felt like the Joe Donnelly shows naturally
That's what happened because sometimes Joe would take over the show and just start fucking talking forever
Which is great. Yeah, which I thought that's what that's more like what that was lots of energy
There wasn't yeah lots of energy. There was you know, it's a fast words
We didn't have to ask a ton of questions and try and pull it out of somebody. Like it literally was like that.
Every a lot of the other guests,
I feel like it's more of an interview style
and we're doing that.
So I agree with you.
But that person has to have that charisma.
They have to have that, hey, I can get under the mic.
Yeah.
Otherwise, it sounds like Justin's sound
like when he first started.
No.
I don't know.
Don't ask me. Ryan O'Banion, which instrument would you like to learn how to play?
Who picked this question? Adam Skin flute. Do you play that all the time? Go ahead Justin,
so we can think about what we're gonna do here. I want to play the drums man.
It's gonna break shit.
Yeah, I already know how to play guitar somewhere.
I suck in comparison to some of our followers, holy shit.
I've been like going through some of people
that have posted about Mind Pump.
And there's just some of these guys that play guitar.
I'm just like blown away, dude.
I was like, wow.
There's this guy, the 9-string guitar guy.
I was like going through some of his stuff and I was like, dude, there's this guy, the 9-string guitar guy. I was like, going through some of his stuff.
And I was like, dude, this guy's amazing.
I am so not even gonna claim that I play guitar now.
I'll say this, when it comes to the drums, dude,
because I like music, I'm not a huge,
I'm not into it, like you are Justin,
but I do enjoy it.
I never considered the drums as being
like a super impressive instrument,
not because I'd looked down upon it.
I just didn't pop in my head, right?
Because the guitar is the first thing that pops up
until I watched Rush.
There was Neil Perk doing his solo
and he had this drum set that fucking rotated around him.
He was strapped into his chair.
He's turning upside down with this shit.
He's moving so fast.
Sharnoff.
Bro, it looks like, I'm thinking that his hands are going to catch fire.
That's how fast he's moving on.
How does he keep track of what is going on at any given moment?
It's just, it's a different level of cognitive, you know, ability.
It's just crazy.
His brain is developed, the ridiculous ability to be able to do that.
That's most like musicians in general that you just look at them and they're just so superior
in like a different, they're on a different wavelength
than you, you know, and you can't even like pretend
to be that person because they just have it.
I would have loved to, I would love to have gone back in time
and to listen to Jimmy Hendrix back then
because I'll tell you why, we're used to that sound now, right?
That feedback and that.
And he invented it.
That's what I'm saying.
Could you imagine listening to that back then?
For the first time.
You know, that was the blown and people must have just,
did you know that, you know,
he tried out for Carlos Santana as band
and then like, you know, they didn't,
he didn't make it.
Wow.
Big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big,
that happened a lot like like primus less clay pole
He's like this amazing bassist right and like the bass. He tried out from Metallica didn't make it Wow
Wow, you're a little too good. You need to do your own thing. Wow. Yeah, I for me instrument
So you guys know I played the trumpet for three years. How's the kid?
Do you like a hornblower?
You do live like a horse blower.
Trump is pretty awesome, dude.
It's pretty good.
It's pretty good.
So I did that for a few years.
It was like whatever.
I would really like to enjoy two instruments
that really fascinate me.
One is the violin.
They do the drums already.
No, no, I said the drums is cool.
I want to play it though.
Oh, got you.
One is the violin, and the other one would be the piano. Those are the two instruments
that really, which one? Yeah. Number one would be clarinet. I want to be a good clarinet.
So you can like breathe fire. Mainly because mainly because I don't know anybody.
Homeclad-ass clarinet. And I would be like usually when you get bad ass at clarinet,
you end up playing saxophone. That's why. Is that why? Is that really a lot ass clarinet piece. And I would be like, usually when you get bad ass at clarinet, you end up playing saxophone. That's why.
Is that why?
Is that really the way that's the progression?
No, it's not.
Start off with a clarinet.
You get good at it and you're like,
now it's time for you to graduate to the show.
One, two, three, name a song with a clarinet in it.
Go.
None.
Yeah, my point exactly.
So you want a bit of a rock fucking.
You want to be.
I want to be the Kenny G of clarinet.
As you know what I say, you know,
I want to be the name.
I want to be the name. It's going to be your guy. Yeah, homeets. You don't want to say it. You know, I want to be the I. I want to be able to name it.
That's going to be your guy.
Yeah.
Homeboy.
No, act this with.
Truth be told, I actually, the piano, I think, would be really cool.
I always wanted to learn the piano.
I think the piano is a cool, very great.
I started out with that.
It's a good one to start with.
It gives you a real good foundation.
Is that what it is?
Because you have to, like, why?
Because you have to read music.
You don't have to read music to anything else.
I mean, you do, but it's the most, like,
straightforward, I would say.
Okay.
Yeah, it's like learning the alphabet.
It did.
Yeah, it's just, I don't know.
Yeah, it's very, it's like,
elemental, like, okay, this,
and you just learn a lot of the structure that way,
and like, what the notes mean and all that, so.
I don't know, I just feel like, I like of all the instruments. Don't you guys think?
Forget about being in a rock band. You're just a regular dude that knows how to play an instrument.
Don't you think playing the piano would get you the most action?
Absolutely. That's exactly what I thought.
What exactly were my man?
No, do you think it's different because we're getting older now?
I don't know. I don't know.
And those guys.
But do you think it's because we're getting older with the thing?
The Matthews guys that are outside, you know, like the dorm rooms.
Yeah. They're playing fully. I used to throw stuff at, you know, like the dorm rooms. Yeah.
They're playing for each other.
I just throw stuff at those guys.
Oh, and the guitar.
I just feel like if you go to, like, you would go with a girl to a restaurant.
There's a piano in the corner and you're like, hold on one second.
Yeah, wait a minute.
You walk over them, you play, you just start by.
Well, I also think it's like this.
Okay, like you just brought at the good point, like a guitar guy, like, you could be a guitar
guy and you could be like the total fucking
John Mayer fucking who the girls. Yeah, or you could be like the fucking hardcore Have me about it like piano. You're you're just a sex symbol. There's no man the middle. There's no like hard rock piano guy
You know, there's no like very kind of junior somebody like that. Yeah, that's impressive
That's cool, too, and I think I think that piano
Yeah, that's a panty dropper too. And I think I think the piano. Um, yeah, it's a panty dropper dude
Yeah, right. Would you rather be able would you rather be able to sing or play an instrument really well?
Well, I would love to be able to sing. I have a terrible voice. It's true. Yeah.
So you
And you you have a good talking voice. You could learn an instrument. You can't learn really if you got from terrible terrible
I'm just you know what? That's what I think too. why do they have singing lessons? Well, you ain't gonna sing
Listen, maybe you just haven't found your right genre yet like you'd be a good like soul guy like
Can't get enough of you little baby
Because I only have one tone. I don't exactly I can't go in here out. You could be that guy. Yeah
There is there is there singers like that that are just one tone. We talk about dude. There's whole bands did look at the Ramon
The Ramones had like six chords and like yeah, two toughs. They still fucking really
That's all sound the same. That's a very good point those
Once and while anybody can do punk rock anybody
You're gonna get some hate this true though. It's true. Yeah, they will they just break all the rules
You could play three chords and that's what the Ramones did listen to any song by the Ramones and you'll you'll realize just how basic that shit is
Like holy fuck there's like to talk to me as a delivery to it. If it doesn't, it's not catchy or whatever.
If you don't like come up with something cool, but like, I've been to punk concerts where
they just fucking yell at you.
And I don't even know what's going on, but like everybody's going crazy.
Did you guys see the 82 year old guy that got on what's the, what's the, what's the
singing shows called the one with the three.
America's got talent.
One of those.
Yeah.
I think it was America's got talent.
And it was 82 or 85 years old and he came out. I didn't click on it, those. Yeah. I think it was America's got talent.
And it was 82 or 85 years old and he came out.
I didn't click on it, but I saw you.
You got to click on it.
He comes out and he does drowning pool, let the bodies of the floor and he fucking rocks
it.
I was show the whole audience stands up and starts going crazy.
That's like that girl that I posted that saying all of a sudden, but she did this in
this growl. Dude, whoa, how are that?
Did that watch in this 85 year old guy who's like, he was a Navy pilot engineer. All of
the sudden, they kind of asked him what he did before. And here's the thing, like, I've
seen those shows and a lot of that shit's totally staged. They pick, they pick the people
that are going to embarrass themselves and they know that people are going to laugh at
they know it makes good TV. This guy came out and like legitimately looked like
he was like putting it down, like trying to put it down
and the crowd went fucking nuts and it was so great, dude.
Yeah.
Do you guys, what was the group?
There was one band that did that to me where
the girl's voice was very soft and like sweet and she's small
and all of a sudden she comes out and like,
Satan came up.
No, fly Lee. Fly down. No, fly leaf
Fly leaf. Yeah, like in the beginning. I'm like, oh, she's kind of sound sweet whatever and then like just have an essence
It's like that and then just say that he made a room out. Yeah, yeah
Yeah, like sweet sweet little girl and then also they
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