Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 321: Nutrition Hacks, Macro Spillover, Fitness Icon Interviews & MORE

Episode Date: July 1, 2016

The Eagle has landed! Quah time! Sal, Adam & Justin answer Instagram questions (@mindpumpradio) about nutrition hacks, the spillover effect of eating too much in one sitting even if it fits macros & c...alories, who they would like to interview from the fitness industry and the musical instrument they would like to learn. Get MAPS Anywhere at www.mindpumpmedia.com. Please subscribe, rate and review this show! Each week our favorite reviewers are announced on the show and sent Mind Pump T-shirts!

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Starting point is 00:00:00 If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, with your hosts. Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. What is it about there's a certain quality about some people that you want to punch them in the face? Do you know what I'm saying? Yes. There's like a certain special, it's a special quality because there's people that annoy me. There's people who are ugly, there's people who are whatever, and then there's some people who are none of those things. Yeah, but you just want to pummel them in the face. There's that one that's special ingredient there.
Starting point is 00:00:35 Something, it's an X factor. It's an X factor. It's I call it the X factor. Yeah. You know who adds that X factor? Hmm. The leader of North Korea, what's his name? Kim Jong-il.
Starting point is 00:00:44 His little chubby face. Don't you just want to kick him in his face? Of course. I don't know why besides the fact that he's dropped my cheek. Besides the fact that he's starving millions of people, I want to just beat him up. You know what I mean? He doesn't poop. Just give him a hard wedgie. Yeah, you know, I'm just fucking lifting my pants. And then have Adam like just punch him in his stomach. Thank you for your. And Justin will just take his lunch one. Wow We went too far again. We can bully some people. Yeah, nobody would get mad if we bully the leader of North Korea
Starting point is 00:01:14 I mean, let us at least fuck bully some people. Yeah, yeah, he does have a people deserve it punchable Punchable face dude. I I'm gonna have to go get the red hat I really like to write every time I see Justin in the red hat. I really like the right every time I see Justin in the red hat. I know that mad Mike has. Yeah, it's compliments all time. When we made him, dude, that is a, I love the, is that our mascot? Are we going to, can we call him? Are we going to call him our mascot? Is that our dude, mad Mike? All right. I don't know if I would call it a man. I don't know if you would be a mascot. It would be a mascot. He hasite, a mascot. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:01:45 Actually, it would be hilarious if we did get a big mad mic costume and had Doug run around as a mascot. I think that'd be awesome. At events. You know what I say? Like, he'll run and do like, you just like randomly run up something and talk shit and then run away. He'll run up to a supplement booth and knock their shit over.
Starting point is 00:01:59 Exactly. That would be awesome. Or like, he'd eat it, pretend to eat it and then throw up. Yeah. Girl like you'd eat it, pretend to eat it and then throw up. Yeah. Girl like a tumor. Yeah. That's the best. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:09 I'm pretty sure that we need to get a booth as soon as we can as some of these ex-pulsors. I'm pretty sure in 2017 we're not going to be able to be allowed to even go into one. So I think it's so. I do. I think it's important that we get into one soon. Either that or- I'll be disappointed if we're allowed in there. We just weird. Yeah. If they let us know, like, no, I was easy. We need to go just to have a presence there. And I think,
Starting point is 00:02:33 you know, I talked to the boys that are boys with prodigy. And since they have a clothing line and they like to do that stuff, I think, I think the next one that we just, we just pair up with them, either that or our boys with blown gear. So either blown gear or prodigy, both clothing line and people that we like and that are local Bay Area dudes that we were big fans of. I think it would be cool to be. I'm just surprised. Well, I don't like to use the word surprised, but I did not anticipate how much how many people would want like mind pump a peril. Like we have shirts that people are getting and at tank tops, we have the hats, and they do look good, but you guys know as well
Starting point is 00:03:10 as I do that, like a peril company, like that's very difficult, and people like them. Yeah, well, we're not gonna get rich doing it at all. You don't see that. You never know. Well, yeah, you're right, you never know. One can dream. No, yeah, no, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:03:23 I think it's cool to have. I think it's cool. Oh, it's crushing my dreams. That's what Adam does. Basically, I'm like Adam. Do you think my calves will grow if I do this? Well, what's your other idea? What's his? His Sal is really hell been on us being in a stuffed animal, which I think is probably up there in one of the worst ideas. No, it's not. Let me finish. No, go ahead and go ahead. Make it stuffed. Mad Mike, but put it in do something to where you can put it in your car. Either hang it off the wind the mirror because that's totally And still to hang dice off your mirror and shit right why not it can be
Starting point is 00:03:51 I'm just saying do sometimes yeah, I think a stuff a stuff Mad Mike not at all my daughter wants from real bad Yeah, that's why I want exactly and then you know, I think I think we I think I can have one of those made Especially for your daughter and I think I could do something really cool and brand it for her. And we could put something neat and scribe from his, her father to you. I think that would be cute. And I think that would be neat. Do I think our podcast, uh, it would our audience would buy? No, I don't think so. No, I don't. Since somebody just recently did a whole, like, it's like a titty rucks.
Starting point is 00:04:17 Been. I think our, I think I said, I think I said, I think it's a titty rucks. I think there's a squeezy. I think there's a better chance If it converts into a sex toy then it we could sell it awesome. Oh now we're on the yeah like it's it looks like a stuffed animal But when it's full of debris it turns into the rad turns and circles and goes Put your dick or or maybe it looks like a stuffed animal But it has like a zipper and it holds your portable vibrator. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:47 It does sound like a pouch for it. It has some sort of use. I don't, I don't, I don't. I'm not a big fan of combining a child's toy with it. Hahaha. Hahaha. This is a very solid point. It is, I think.
Starting point is 00:04:57 It's almost like, it reminds me, yeah, it reminds me when I worked at a red robin, and they had this idea that they were gonna have shakes with alcohol in them, right? Oh, let's get a rookie magic and then there was like the cookie magic or something which was like, had alcohol in it and yeah, let's just say like a little switcheroo and the kid was just drunk and puking. What? No!
Starting point is 00:05:23 It was like the worst idea I think I've ever... That really happened? It really happened. Oh, that is hilarious. Bro, I just got all the drunk. It's not a good idea. Yeah, you lost you probably for some time. Probably, yeah. Wow.
Starting point is 00:05:33 It's just not a good idea. This is the why I'm against. So, times, yeah. Most edibles because it's like, fruity pebbles with 45 milligrams of THC. Like, you know what, your kids actually, dad, I ate all my cereal this morning. Like, hmm.
Starting point is 00:05:43 Well, that's the biggest part of that industry. Your eyes are red. That's what was wrong with it. I remember when we first started, why were brothers make sense? I started the clubs. Fucking pot heads. We were trying to, we knew that, right? Like, I remember they would bring them in and still is this way with cannabis clubs.
Starting point is 00:05:59 It's, you know, it's a difficult, as an owner, it was hard. Okay, you obviously, you're concerned about margins. So I need, I wanna get a cookie that's, I can buy it for, you know, 250, and I can turn around and sell it for five to six dollars or whatever, right? But what happens is the people that actually spend the money in like packaging it in a safe package,
Starting point is 00:06:20 and warning labels, and making it professional and nice, you know, those things would be like $3, $4. And then I could get somebody who made it in their kitchen who would sell it to you for half the price, double the dosage. Granny's pot cookies. Right. And 70% of the people that were coming to pick up buy the cookies from you, they cared more about the strength
Starting point is 00:06:40 of it than they cared about how it's packed. So it was such a hard thing to deal with. It's just so indicative of stoners, like, I got, I don't ever go, hey, fuck, I got a headache, bro, you got some I'd be profan, yeah, right here in this Rice Krispy Tree. It's a full dose of I'd be profan. It doesn't make sense.
Starting point is 00:06:55 It's total stoners, bro. Yeah, here, here, oh, you've got, you've got multiple sclerosis, we have some medicated lullipops. I have some, it does crunch. Yeah, it does crunch. You just eat it and you'll feel much better. You can eat this lollipop, it'll help you with it. It just doesn't. Dude, I know it's embarrassing.
Starting point is 00:07:12 Well, you brought up the company, it was a bang chocolate, right? Bang chocolate. No, Kiva. Well, Kiva too, I know Kiva, but bang chocolate I thought you brought up too. Also, I mean, both those companies are millionaire, dude. I mean, I remember when they first started, I was one of the first clubs that they brought
Starting point is 00:07:27 to stuff. Well, Kiva is my, it's got to be one of my favorite edibles only because it's so professional and so accurately dosed and so consistent, you know what I mean with the dose. And we knew that when they first, so I was one of the, I vented bang and Kiva when they first came in. That's the bang with an HBH, yeah, BHA and G. Kang. And here's the thing, the guy who owns bang used to have a chocolate cup.
Starting point is 00:07:50 So he was already had a factory, he already had a professional. So he was way ahead of the game. And I remember when he came in and his prices were really high. And I was like, this is a matter because he had all the milligrams broken down. I was super professional. I could see it in a store at one point. So I was like, man, we have to get with this vendor. And they moved, they sold, but not as fast as obviously the person who had the homemade ones that were super strong and it was just unfortunate
Starting point is 00:08:10 But it looked look how it's paid off now because those guys were where regulations are thinking man. Oh, yeah No, and I love I love seeing that I love seeing that it paid off for those guys and you know shame on everybody else that didn that didn't pick up on that and see it early and didn't take the sack. What a good point too with entrepreneurship, how much it's like that in the battle of attrition like we've said before. Oh, come on, dude. As soon as marijuana went from pure black market to somewhat of a much less regulated, more open market, which is the medical market in California. The quality of the product has grown so rapidly in such a short period of time, it's ridiculous,
Starting point is 00:08:50 it's crazy, five years, just five years. You know, the edibles we have now, and the products we have now are light years ahead, and that's because we've allowed the entrepreneurial spirit of, you know, capitalists and free market, you know, entrepreneurs to compete with each other and to try to produce better products. And the winner at the end of this
Starting point is 00:09:08 is always the consumer. It is. And that's why I'm always supportive of. The competition is awesome. Dude, let it happen. It's an excellent, it's an excellent example of free market. It's an excellent example of how it managed itself to. See this is it.
Starting point is 00:09:20 And it's brought the price down. How much is a price? Remember how much money you could get? If you grew a pound of marijuana, if you grew a pound of marijuana, if you sold a pound of marijuana on the black market, you would make like five times as much as if you sell it now in the medical market or the legal market, like Colorado or Washington,
Starting point is 00:09:34 because that's what the market does. Lower prices and you could go to the market. It's such a wide five times, but it definitely, I mean, they were, you know, when I first got into it, a pound would go for $3,500 to $4,000 a pound in California. Places like New York, you would go 3500 to $4,000 a pound in California. Uh, places like New York, it would go for five to $7,000 a pound. Now it's like 2500, you know, it's, it's half the price for sure, which is, but it also that makes it, it makes it very difficult for a grower too,
Starting point is 00:09:57 you know, if somebody who is getting into that industry, Justin's laughing, I just, I'm just picturing like, yeah, man man back when I used to get grams like you know off this plane Put it by house and you know then I would chop it up and you know I just picture this whole like crazy drug operation. Well, you know the first time So when I got in it was funny because when I got into cannabis I'll never forget this uh when I had this moment or will you forget it? Yeah I was back I was I was breaking everything up. We're packaged in the containers and we're weighing in, measuring everything out.
Starting point is 00:10:30 And it was, you know, I had a pound that I was doing this. And I had this moment where I thought to myself, that's a lot of weed. I felt like it's really not. Whoa. I remember, I think the most amount of weed we've seen. Yeah. I remember going, wow, what a hustler you have to be to be a drug dealer. Like I had this all broken out.
Starting point is 00:10:53 And I'm such a mathematic guy, right? So I'm like, I'm looking at everything and I'm going, this is a whole pound. This is all broken up and, you know, quarters and aides and grams and everything like that. So all the different weights and how much that would go. And I'm figuring it out, okay, well, this cost to me. I just bought this from this farmer. It cost me $3,000. Once I sell all this off, I'm gonna make a total of $6,500.
Starting point is 00:11:14 So I'm making $35,000, but I'm looking at how many, like that's like fucking 100 and something transactions I'm looking at for me. I'm like, man, if you're slanging dope as a kid or a young adult who's getting into this, like, man, you can't make that as much money as you think you can. Like this, this would take a normal person forever to sell all this off in aides and quarters and ounces. No, no, no, no, this is why this is the opposite of promoting. You would, you, it's not as, it's way more overglamorized than what it really is. Like,
Starting point is 00:11:43 the amount of, imagine if you took if you took these dealers and you just, we're able to take their efforts and their energy and their brains and we're able to focus it towards pencils. Yeah, or whatever, or even just make the market, make it legalize somehow or less regulated somehow. Imagine the economic power that they could produce with their minds. Well, I really feel like myself,
Starting point is 00:12:11 some of my buddies that we, that's it. We made people, yeah. Just throw them out. Just throw them out. Those are common names and the fucking 3 million people listening to us. I mean, how many? I know that.
Starting point is 00:12:23 How many of you are talking to them? Well, that's what matters. I mean, you many? How many? How many? Well, that's what matters. I mean, you guys, you guys under nobody, everybody else is like, Oh, I wonder if that's the. I know. My friend John, probably not. My friend John McDonald. I was.
Starting point is 00:12:33 I just put John Smith. Yeah. No, the, the, the men that I'm naming are these were really intelligent businessmen that were not into, you know, into drugs or any of that stuff heading into the cannabis world. So we treated it so different than the average person, the average person that got into marijuana when it first or got into cannabis clubs when they first started to open up, we're mostly, you know, black market drug dealers that said, wow, we can do this legally now. All that the dudes go get a script to the license and now I can open a store.
Starting point is 00:13:05 And they're shakedowns. Oh, totally, totally like that. And so we're coming, here come these three nerds that get into this business. And we think we're going to legitimize it in a matter of months just because we run our operation like a real business. And that was part of the fight for us was,
Starting point is 00:13:22 we were trying to take a legitimate, we were trying to get companies like Bang and Kiva to be the main supplements and stuff that we offered inside of our store. But we were competing with these guys that were doing everything back door and shady. And it was a major challenge. And it still is for the industry. It's changing though. It's evolving and it's coming that direction.
Starting point is 00:13:42 But now it's becoming more legitimate and more like a real business. And with that being said, it's not as profitable as a lot of people think it is. It's profitable in different ways, not profitable like before. No, not like before. No fairness. I mean, alcohol had the same birth. Yes, absolutely. Yes, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:13:59 And it was all like underground and all these shakedowns and you know shady shit that you know the government coming in and like all the cops breaking everybody's stuff. It's exactly like that. What you got to realize is from an economic, just from a purely economic standpoint, the literally the role of government and when it comes to drugs is to keep prices high and to protect the cartels from competition. Literally, from an economic standpoint, that's what they end up doing.
Starting point is 00:14:28 End up making the margins so that these drug dealers make shit tons of money because it's very risky to sell it. And they eliminate any competition. So you get people dying from overdoses and impurities and all kinds of crazy stuff. Whereas in markets, things tend to get cleaner and better. It's going to be on the ballot, I believe, this year, right, to legalize potentially in California.
Starting point is 00:14:50 Who's like, for sure will do that. Amongst these candidates, who's got the stance for it? Marijuana's going to be legalized. It doesn't matter who wins, because it's now majority of people support it. They already were. It was like 50, 50 last time. Yeah, it was real close. It's there's already states legalizing.
Starting point is 00:15:07 It's it's all the to be honest with you. You've been a fall. It's proven itself business wise. The only reason I'll tell you right now, the only reason why it's not is not what you guys think it is. It's opposite of what most people think. The people that are voting against it are not not not narrowed a non marijuana users are not.
Starting point is 00:15:23 I mean, maybe like 10% of those are Oh, it's the current people in the business It's a black market it's a black market people Yeah, if I'm a if I'm a drug dealer on the black market. I don't want it to go illegal of course not because I that's so Those guys ever got out voted they're voting for that they're going out there since keep it illegal They'd rather it be illegal But you know that Marbro and all these like companies are chomping at the bit to just like change their crops and all these companies are chomping at the bit to just like, change their crops. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:15:46 It's like, why wouldn't they just like, how easy they've already got the operation? That's why I think it's so, I understand why you would wanna get out of that now because once you get competitors back, Oh, turn there, it's over. It's like somebody asking me right now if they should open up a liquor store.
Starting point is 00:16:01 I'm like, you can, I mean, do it. I think if you're gonna get rich doing it, like, good luck. There's one right up the street and there was one right that way. And that way, there's a, there's a liquor store, you know, within a hundred yards all directions. Now, could you make money selling alcohol if it was all illegal? You'd make a shit ton of money. Yeah. And that's where that's where marijuana is at now. So now everybody always, you know, hits me up and they're all interested in getting in the business. I'm like, you know, personally, my opinion is you miss that boat, you know, hits me up and they're all interested in getting in the business. I'm like, you know, personally, my opinion is you missed that boat, you know, can you?
Starting point is 00:16:26 Absolutely. You can still get it open a liquor store and make money, but it's not like the, it's not like when it first went. No. And unless what'll end up happening is a lot of times when things get legalized or whatever is you get people who get in with the politicians and you see this in certain states. And then they make laws eliminating competition. So what they would do for example, is California politicians would work with some other people and they'd say to keep marijuana safe, we're only gonna allow these designated places
Starting point is 00:16:53 to sell marijuana. And reality what they've done is they've made a deal with people to allow them to be the only providers of whatever product. They make their money, right? Exactly. That's the truth. And what they're gonna do is They're gonna mask it as it's for our own safety, right? You know, we know we're only gonna allow five
Starting point is 00:17:11 Zoning exactly 100% Oh shit, he's high Bring it, Doug. You don't like the Eagles Land anymore. I like that when he did that. Eagles Landed. Shit, I'll bring it. That's too late.
Starting point is 00:17:30 I like that. Edit that in, Doug somehow. Okay. Somehow. It's already in. Do something about that, Doug. All right. Starting with B Fit Bree,
Starting point is 00:17:39 she wants to know Nutrition Hacks. Nutrition Hacks. Nutrition Hacks. Well, she had a long question. It's basically like, you know, when you have a busy schedule or the new tricks that you can provide tips on how to provide, you know, get the life-resistant food. Get the life-resistant food. The mentality. Yes, exactly. Here's a thing for me, at least, especially if I'm on the road or, you know or I'm busy. A grocery store is usually as easy to find as fast food, or almost as easy to find as fast food.
Starting point is 00:18:11 So if I'm in a hurry or I'm on the road and I need to pull over to grab food, I can usually find a grocery store just like I can find in McDonald's or in and out. And at the grocery store, I'm able to find healthier alternatives, typically, a lot of these grocery stores, like Safeway, will have like salad bars with fresh,
Starting point is 00:18:30 you know, where I could put fish in my salad, I could buy jerky, I could buy nuts, I could buy fruit. A lot of these places will sell vegetables where they'll have like the, the deli counter, where behind the deli counter, they'll have like prepared foods that you can get. This is a horrible tip. And well, I'm just, I'm just saying in terms of why is it a horrible tip?
Starting point is 00:18:46 Nobody goes to stop the grocery store when they're hurry driving their car, dude. I'm saying if you're gonna stop, yeah, but I know she knows that. You don't think she's gonna... I wouldn't hear what else she's gonna say. Is it a grocery store? Yeah, I keep going. So yeah, I keep going.
Starting point is 00:18:58 I'm curious. You go with your horrible tip. Well, why don't you start with it? No, no, no, no. Like, I like hearing it. I don't think it's a bad idea. I just love how it's done in elaborate detail, but yeah, what whole phones look like.
Starting point is 00:19:08 That's why I'm saying, I think she knows what's in a grocery store and what she could get out of a grocery store. Well, all I'm saying is it's as easy to eat healthy as it is to not eat healthy. That's all I'm saying. I'm thinking more hacks like this. Like, you know, I find when I'm on a go and I'm really hungry that, you know, when you eat something high
Starting point is 00:19:25 and saturated fat, like it helps satiate you. And so then you go a lot longer without. So keeping like, I think you think of it hacks like to affect appetite. Yeah. Like I think it's more like that. I mean, yeah, I mean, if you're grocery stores are definitely the place to go instead of fast food for sure, you know, that's,. You're always gonna have better choices there. But what are some, or incorporating fasting? I think that's another great, a lot of time, we get so caught up in this, we need to eat our meals, every two to three hours, there's huge benefits
Starting point is 00:19:57 to meal skipping, especially when you're trying to lean down, which I feel like we're all trying to lose body fat. Very few people are concerned about, oh, I need to be eating this surplus all the time. So, you know, getting out of that mentality of being afraid of, you know, not eating for a little while. And if it's a hunger thing, because you're like, oh, my God, my stomach's growling, then, you know, having things like macadamia nuts or a high fat, you know, an avocado, like one's the last time you ever just ate an avocado. And you, you know, Sally, you were the one.
Starting point is 00:20:25 That's why I think it was a terrible tip because I think you have better tips than this. I think that when you do a little bit of olive oil, a little bit of olive oil on an avocado with some salt. Are you hungry right now? Yeah. You need a nutritious, I was the guy with all the recipes.
Starting point is 00:20:39 I got a tip for you anyway, continue. Yeah. So, and that's another thing. We make a lot of, you know, I make these little Reese's Peanut Butter Cup fat bombs, they're really high and fat. They have a little bit of protein in them, they don't have much for carbs. And we freeze them and they make little Reese's Peanut Butter cups.
Starting point is 00:20:56 And I keep those always in my freezer. And if I'm on the go really quick, I can just grab them and I can eat them on the road while I'm heading somewhere. And it's something that I made I created. It's not a processed fucking protein bar that I bought from somewhere. So things like that, cambucha.
Starting point is 00:21:10 You know, I feel like cambucha is something that's very filling for a drink. So a lot of times I'll grab a cambucha and then I'll sip on it, you know, through between meals. Are those like cambuchas? Huh? Our cambucha is a cambo-com.
Starting point is 00:21:24 Is it calm? Is it calm? I I think so Doug. I know Doug is Japanese That's left It's a camera. I always say kombucha, but that's oh I'm fairly we're both right. I know honestly. I think it's kombucha kombucha kombucha I think I'm pretty close to try to give me I know Adams gonna fuck something up. We're
Starting point is 00:21:46 shooting him. Oh, mine's horrible. Oh, really? Yeah. We can't say kombucha. And I know I don't I'm just teasing. I don't think that South tip is horrible. I think if you have the discipline to to not drive through somewhere when you're hungry and go to a grocery store, I think that'd be ideal. But I just think that's kind of obvious. I think everybody kind of knows that, you know, what are some things that you utilize to fight off hunger or to make sure you make a better choice? What didn't you like post something about people who like get like scoops of peanut butter
Starting point is 00:22:16 and like a coconut fat and stuff like that? Or are you talking about that the other day? Instead of just not eating, you mean? Yeah, yeah. Cause I know I've, because they needed the matric. Well, I actually have done that. You know, like, you know, I think somebody was talking shit about it, but I was like,
Starting point is 00:22:30 way man, you know, like I, well, sometimes I'll just take a scoop of like coconut butter and I'll eat on that, you know, just to keep me going. It's actually pretty good. No, once again, this was another thing that I got from Sal, that's why I think he was a horrible tip. He's given me way better tips for nutrition, where he actually got from Sal, that's why I think he was a horrible tip. He's given me way better tips for nutrition where he actually got this coconut, coconut oil peanut butter from
Starting point is 00:22:49 what was a whole freezer treasure. I think it was, hopefully. Yeah. Awesome. It's peanut butter with a little bit of a coconut flavor twist to it and it's much better choice for you than regular peanut butter. It's not all the artificial fake shit in it. It's all natural. So I'll take a tablespoon of that when I'm trying to fight off hunger
Starting point is 00:23:06 and I'll just suck on that or eat that, you know, one or two tablespoons of that and that feel that satiates me. So yeah, I know there's, I think it's all like shopping, right? So like as much as you can load your house up with like things that are gonna benefit, like it's tough when you,
Starting point is 00:23:22 when you have like kids and like, there's different things that like you'll compromise with, but like as much as you can set yourself up, like in your own house, and then you can like, you know, pull some of those items when take them with you on the road and all that, like that's where I get the most help, you know, cause yeah, when you're on the road,
Starting point is 00:23:41 it's tough, man. Like there's, there really, you are not set up for success when you're relying on your environment to get like food from. Another thing that I, you know what, you just spurred something for me. Sometimes when I'm hungry, especially if I'm fasting, something this just does it for me.
Starting point is 00:24:00 For whatever reason, very, very cold, fizzy water, tends to make me feel like I'm not just drinking water. Yeah, yeah. And what I'll do sometimes, I'll get one of those sampler greenos, I like, that's my favorite one, I'll get a real cold, and I'll put a slice of lime in there. I did that. Remember you told me that when I was going through the process, because I was like kind of having with draws with alcohol and like beer and stuff, and like that was a good, you know, you do that,
Starting point is 00:24:22 you salt the rim, then you get that. Yeah, you put salt in the rim and then you put a little lime in there. At least you feel like for like a split second, it's a beer. Exactly. That's a good survey. So I know I get some better tips out of you.
Starting point is 00:24:34 You know, I just, you start to keep hammering now. Yeah, you know. No, there's a squeeze. Here's another one that I've learned about, you know, my food choices when I first started the day. I used to, it was all when I first started the day. I used to, it was all through competing for the longest time. My staple breakfast was like, you know, a bowl of oatmeal was in there, you know, for sure.
Starting point is 00:24:52 You know, I'd have other stuff too, but you know, I used to love eating oatmeal early on in the morning. It's got, you know, great benefits to it. It's high in fiber. It's a good source of carbohydrates, blah, blah, blah. So I would start my day that way. But what I realized when I went ketogenic and I got rid of carbs like that,
Starting point is 00:25:07 what a difference my appetite felt throughout the day. So carbs actually kick started my appetite. And then I found like myself two hours later, I'd be like starving for another carb. I wanted more food right away where when I started having really high fat breakfast where I would just, I would load up the bacon and I'd have whole a's with a little bit of, you know, organic cheese on there and avocado like, man, I'd have that
Starting point is 00:25:29 breakfast and I'd be fine till I could go three o'clock in the afternoon and not eat a meal and be totally fine. So, yeah, to me, that's another hack that, you know, if you're somebody who's trying to diet and lean down, you know, counter cultural hack. It is. That's why I like it. I think it's so different to how we've been taught. We have cereal, oatmeal, you know, shakes, all these things are what we tell people, fruit, all this stuff to have in the morning. Well, you know, switch your way of thinking and go a really high fat breakfast and get a majority of your fat early on the day. And that helps satiate me through the rest of the day. So that's a, that's changed the way I, I, I, I eat based off of what I'm trying to do as far as, uh, leaning or bulking or whatever.
Starting point is 00:26:06 Fit girls struggles 85. Can you eat too much in one sitting? Does it spill over and is it stored as fat, even if it fits your macros and calories? Yeah, this is one of those myths that just won't die. Oh, it spills over. Yeah, like you, like you can only absorb, you know, 30 grams of protein, you know, uh, per sitting, or you can only absorb you know 30 grams of protein you know per sitting or you can only Absorb X amount of calories per sitting
Starting point is 00:26:29 Here's the thing the body doesn't work that way. It's actually a longer process Spilling over eating too much at one sitting will make you sick usually And of course those extreme examples of people that can consume ridiculous amounts of food at each sitting. But for the average person who's healthy, you don't have to worry about this. If you're trying to get in 150 grams approaching a day, you can do it in six meals or you can do it in two meals, and it's pretty much all gonna get utilized.
Starting point is 00:27:00 Most of it won't get stored as body fat unless you're in a surplus. That's really what counts in terms of storing body fat body fat unless you're in a surplus. That's really what counts in terms of storing body fat. So if you're hitting your macros and your calories, eating it all in fewer meals is absolutely fine. And right now, lots of science is showing that the fasting period beforehand and then having the large meal has a lot of benefits.
Starting point is 00:27:20 The majority of my calories come in one or two meals. You know, I have one, maybe if I eat 2,000 calories a day, I might have one 500 calorie meal and one 1,500 calorie meal. And that's typically how I'll eat myself. And doing it that way works a lot better for me because most of the day then I'm not eating any food and I just have more energy. So I wouldn't worry about eating too much at one time in terms of what the supplement industry has told you,
Starting point is 00:27:45 which is you're wasting your protein. You need to eat every six hours, so here by our bars and by our, and the funny thing is too, who picked this arbitrary 30 to 50 grams of protein, you know, per sitting? I mean, they did. Why? Because it's gross to fit more of that
Starting point is 00:28:00 into a protein bar. I think they just picked that number out of the air, like 50 grams of protein. That's the most. Because that's the most that they'll put in their servings, bar. I think they just picked that number out of the air, like 50 grams of protein, that's the most. Because that's the most that they'll put in their servings maybe, I don't know. Well, no, there's some, right? How fast your body assimilates it, right?
Starting point is 00:28:12 I think there's, it's more correlates to that. Like your body, it takes it for every hour to assimilate its X amount of protein that it converts, but it just keeps doing that, you know, ongoing for the X2440 out. So if you load it 100, it's not like you get to use 50 and the other 50 just gets gone, go, or goes the ways where you shit it out, you still use it.
Starting point is 00:28:30 There's some truth to the spilling over though. And there is, so this kind of goes back, we just aired this episode where we talked about, you know, the body doesn't work on a 24 hour clock and that's another problem with, you know, getting caught up in, you know, if a picture macros are falling on macro counter type of mentality because, you know, two days
Starting point is 00:28:52 can be so different activity level wise, and that could have a reflection of that. So if you add, let's say, and we're just gonna use hypothetical flat numbers to make it really easy to understand, let's just use 2000 like Sal said. Let's say that's your maintenance. And yesterday I ate 2000 calories, but I didn't do anything.
Starting point is 00:29:13 I just sat around all day long. I didn't train and do anything, but I ate my 2000. And then I come into today. And today I overconsume I eat 2,500 calories. Yeah, there's gonna be a spillover because of my body, those extra calories have got nowhere to go. They don't have no work that I just recently done
Starting point is 00:29:33 that need to be partitioned over to building muscle. I didn't have a huge activity day. I probably didn't deplete my glycogen levels from the day before. So now this over consumption is gonna go into, you know, getting stored as fat. Yeah, but that's she's asking about is there spillover if your macros and calories are all okay? So you know, flip now flip though, right? Same thing. Now that same person, let's just
Starting point is 00:29:54 say that the day before they burned a ton and they did they ran for five miles, they trained a hard leg day or they maybe they do that this morning, the way those calories are gonna get utilized in partitioned and the way that you would or would not over spilt completely changes. You gotta think of that like that, because it doesn't always work this way, where we have this perfect number that our body is, when you figure out a maintenance level
Starting point is 00:30:19 or you figure out your macros, it's still a generic number, even if it is individualized for you and your body, our metabolism and everything is free-flowing and forever changing. So, being aware of that, being aware of that, or like how you mentioned coming off of a faster than consuming. If you have an eight for 15 hours, your body is tapped those stores. It is completely utilized all that. So then you consume your 2000 calories that you need to. And then yeah, not only does none of it over spill, but all of it goes to good use
Starting point is 00:30:49 and refilling the glycogen stores and filling your muscle bellies up and going to first-doored energy. Somebody who didn't move whatsoever, and they didn't work out, and then they over-consume on there, they could, and they eat 2500 calories, they could over spill, and it would over calories, it could over spill and it would over a spill. So understanding your activity level, what you've done training wise, plus about where
Starting point is 00:31:10 you should be maintenance in a general sense matters more. Does that make sense? You're just talking about surplus versus like activity, exact. Exactly. So that's, I mean, that's, I don't see that as part of the question as much, but like I, I know what you're talking about as far as that's concerned. Well, that's where them, that's where this myth gets generated from. That's why, because I'm trying to get you guys to understand is that that's why? Because there is, I mean, there it, you can
Starting point is 00:31:35 absolutely overspill. Well, the turn, but you would have to over consume. Now, can you overspill and hit your maintenance for a day? Yes. If you, because what happens if you, if you over consumed the day before or you didn't burn enough the day before, so your body has more stored energy going into this day. And then you consume. Right. But, but I think she's, she's asking about per meal, that one meal, like, yes. No. If I, if, if today, if I ate a thousand calories today, and that thousand calories was all getting burned, but. But I ate all that thousand calories in one meal. Does that make a difference versus one meal versus three meals?
Starting point is 00:32:08 No, no, yeah. And that's the question. And no, there's no. And the term spillover comes from the fucking bodybuilding world. I think that's really why we were trying to address this because that's the myth. That's something that we want to steer people away from thinking in those terms. We're given perfect case scenario. I've done my workout. I've planned my meals accordingly to my schedule of macros and everything's balanced and all that. But now, eating within this window and then eating a specific amount, it's going to have
Starting point is 00:32:43 this spill over because I've over-consumed when in fact, I don't see that as, I don't know where to go. Well even the term spillover comes from car bloating. That's where they use that term. The spillover, I've never heard that term. I've heard it. It's a good term to me. I think it helps people understand what's going's going on when you when you eat more than
Starting point is 00:33:09 enough fuel or of energy. So you have a bucket and you spill it and then it spills over and then you know, the body has no, it doesn't need it. So where does it go? It's just that. One meal for me, I just I don't know. I look at it like surplus versus, you know, like deficit versus maintenance. Like I don't, I don't know that like, you know, I just, I don't know, I look at it like surplus versus, you know, like deficit versus maintenance. Like, I don't, I don't, I don't know that like, you know, I'm going to put all that weight on like one meal. Like it's over the extended. And that's the point I'm trying to make. I'm trying to make that the overspillage thing is a true thing.
Starting point is 00:33:36 It does happen. It can happen. So would one does, is it dictated by a one meal? Absolutely not. What you're, what Sal is saying is 100% true. 1500 calories eaten in one sitting versus spread out over three is no fucking difference. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:50 But can eating a 1500 calorie meal over spill you? Absolutely. If eight hours ago you just consumed another big huge meal. You haven't had any act. That's because what I'm trying, what I'm trying to get across is that it doesn't work on a 24 hour clock. Yeah. So think of it like this.
Starting point is 00:34:03 If I ate a dinner at 9 PM at night, it was 1500 to 2000 calories. Then I come right over at six o'clock in the morning, and I have a 2000 calorie. That's within less than 24 hours, I'm hitting, I'm going over my maintenance. So can over spillage happen right there? Absolutely. Now we'll level itself out because now you don't eat again for the next 10 hours because you just have to be mindful of the exact process right now. And that's what I'm trying to get out is that, you know, the over spillage thing is there's science to that. It does happen to the body, but we don't work on this pretty, this perfectly 24 hour clock. Yes, you does 1500 calories in one meal versus three. It is, is there a difference? No. And in fact, there's more science that supports what's out.
Starting point is 00:34:42 It's probably even better. It's actually probably beneficial to allow yourself to eat more and then less sometimes rather than be this perfect. Absolutely. And relating your calories, I think, is just as important as your workout. Yeah, I don't think, I think, because, again, in the fitness world,
Starting point is 00:34:59 they tend to take things and break them down into like perfect boxes and say, okay, 2,500 calories, that means you need to have this many calories per meal, this many grams of protein per meal, this one many grams of carbs per meal and fat per meal. And this is why you have guys eating the same shit all day long because they've measured out exactly how much tilapia it takes to hit the protein.
Starting point is 00:35:19 Exactly how much brown rice it takes to hit my carbs. And then they look at food as protein carb or fat. And that's it, right? Oh, I need some fiber because I think it's good for me. Some throw in some asparagus. No, I'm throwing some metamusel. Or metamusel.
Starting point is 00:35:31 Yeah, I'm in a supplement. It's normally what happens. Yeah, I'm not sure how to get this in my diet. So I'm just going to fucking take it. Dude, you know what? I couldn't help but think of this as the question was even asked. I was thinking about those hot dog eating competitors. I'm like, what about that guy that has to like process
Starting point is 00:35:47 all that in one sitting and then shit it out? Oh my God, that poor guy. I feel bad for the plumber. Spill over is what I'm saying. Diary of a fit guy. If you could interview anyone in the fitness industry, who would it be? You know who that is?
Starting point is 00:36:02 No, Sean changed it. Oh, that's the dude from the, he changed his name. That's right. He's. That's right. He did. He changed it like twice. My bro stopped doing that. I was like, oh, the answer this question. I got to disguise myself. We're on to you, Sean. We're on to you, buddy. Yeah. I if you could interview anyone who would it be in the fitness industry, huh? What does Arnold still consider? Is that is he still out of the good one? Yeah. That for sure. He's been a hero of mine for his own child. Part I would love to ask him about the old days of bodybuilding. But I'd also love to ask him just general questions.
Starting point is 00:36:35 I mean, he's a he was an immigrant. He kind of embodies the American dream, whether you like him or not. The guys accomplished some amazing things. And I think I'd like to just ask them, you know, lots of questions about business and, you know, life and bodybuilding back in the 70s. That would be definitely easily my number one person. He'd be my number one person, period, not just fitness industry,
Starting point is 00:36:56 but one of my top people just to meet and talk to. I think he's fascinating. As far as other people in the fitness industry, that's a tough one Lane Norton would be cool to talk to Well, I think We don't we wouldn't agree on everything, but he approaches things I think from You know a pretty good viewpoint. He tends he's definitely a smart guy
Starting point is 00:37:20 I'm surprised you said that I was gonna say that because I didn't think any of you would say that because I think we're so anti Well, he's I'm not I'm not anti. I don't think any of us are anti Lane. If anything, we've only ever said things good, you know, most good things about him. There's definitely differences of opinion in certain arenas like artificial, you know, when it comes to artificial sweeteners and and stuff like that and not. But he's one of the he's one of the smart guys in the fitness industry in terms of actual exercise programming, actual how to train a certain way. He's taking I.F.I.F.Y.M.
Starting point is 00:37:52 He approaches it a little differently than other people, but he does tend to get a little more extreme than I would. But I would like to have a discussion in an interview with a guy. I think it would be fascinating. He'd be cool. I think we'd be respectful. Oh, he's a very smart guy.
Starting point is 00:38:03 That's what I'm saying. Yeah, I love, and for me, I was gonna pick him because I, Arnold, I think, we be cool. I think we respectful. Oh, he's a very smart guy. That's what I'm saying. No, I love any end for me. I was going to pick him because I, you know, Arnold, I think we would probably all agree to probably number one for all of us, right? I think you're in Justin. Yeah, I know. I loved, yeah, I think I think Arnold, you know, it would be a fun one, since you still lame for me is maybe Brett Contreras, I think would be cool to have.
Starting point is 00:38:20 Oh, yeah. I think he's, I think he's a cool dude. I like his, I like his approach. I like a lot of his, a lot of his stuff that he writes, a lot of his videos, a lot of things that he puts out there and promotes. Very smart guy. And I like how he, so you have to be clever in this fitness industry to make good money and not be this like supplement whore, right? So, not really though, right? Like you, I mean, we've chose to take a different path. I mean, it would have been much easier.
Starting point is 00:38:52 We're still whores, we're just not so far. No, but it would still, and it would be much easier right now. We'd all be able to stop our other jobs and careers and fully focus on mind pump if we had a supplement line, 100% it already has enough people it generates already enough natural revenue that if we actually had a perishable item that people had to buy every single month, we would all have a six figure incomes and be happier than pigs and shit. But in reality, we've chose to go a different
Starting point is 00:39:18 path. I like how Brett and chairs is kind of done the whole like gone after the whole glute guy thing like the butt I think it's such a hot topic for men and women that want to want to learn how to build the ass and there's a lot of A lot of things to learn and a lot of myths out there around it and I think he addresses a lot of it and he and he's He's built a business Around it and I think that was what drew a lot of people to him. And then you come to him, then you find out that he's a mobility expert. And he really knows his program design and he's, uh, and he looks like a natural normal guy too. He doesn't, he's not somebody who's all steroided out and has done things all
Starting point is 00:39:57 fucking crazy. He's a smart dude who knows what he's talking about. And he keeps it real. And I like how he's marketed himself around that. I think it's You know, I think it's really easy. He could have went the gimmicky route with that and he didn't you know, and I think I have a lot of respect from and I think you'd be a fun character to to have on the show totally Well, he's not necessarily Fitness related, but I really like Tim Ferris and I like listen to his podcast and how he
Starting point is 00:40:26 usually lots of nutrition stuff on there. Yeah, yeah, but I think that he would be, I mean, just his work ethic is unreal, as far as like somebody's supposed to just ironic because he claims he only works four hours in a week. That is ironic. Good point. Yeah, but I mean, some people like avel would be like one of my top picks, just because the guy is a badass and he like has just opened my eyes to some of the different ways of training and strength training specifically. I think I think we would all have a lot
Starting point is 00:41:00 of fun with somebody like Mike Moller because he's just very off the cuff in super intelligent guy as well. But I mean, he's very specialized, but he specialized himself, specifically business-wise. He's very strategic and I actually met the guy at one time at a conference and he just has a really unique perspective and did a great job marketing himself and obviously knows his shit and has great technique and everything. But yeah, he would be a fascinating guy as well.
Starting point is 00:41:32 You know what would be cool would be to interview some former Soviet block coaches. Yes, like some... Some for that. Wouldn't that be sick? Just to find some like ex- like coaches and scientists from Soviet Union Days where they were just dominating and strength support they fascinate me more than anybody because they were so focused on you know biomechanics and improving like sports science and
Starting point is 00:41:57 You know the human body and I think that they were light years ahead of us, dude. They were funded I think that they were light years ahead of us. Dude, they were funded by, they had lots of money to experiment with all kinds of different things. And the ethics were a little bit different. It's where they kicked the shit out of us for so long. That's what I'm saying. It's what they kicked the shit out of us for so long.
Starting point is 00:42:15 It would be cool. But it would be cool to sit down with them and just ask them like, you know, because they were the ones that really pioneered high, high volume, high, high frequency, but sub maximal intensity type workouts, right? They weren't like going to failure with their lifts, but they were doing, these Olympic lifters were lifting for hours a day, just practicing a lift over and over and over. And their athletes just destroyed, you know, our athletes. It'd be so cool to sit
Starting point is 00:42:43 down with them and talk to them. And then it would be cool to sit down and talk with, you know, I always wonder what everyone's gonna be like that once we get them, like, I was really excited, excited to, ex-arded. Got it, like, yeah. That's so, I was excited, I farted. I was excited. I was excited.
Starting point is 00:42:57 Yeah. I was so, I was so excited to interview Mark Bell. And I thought that was pretty weak. You know, I was excited to meet him. I was excited to talk to him. And I thought that was pretty weak. I was excited to meet him. I was excited to talk to him. I thought it was gonna be awesome. And then it was like,
Starting point is 00:43:10 you know what I mean? You never know until you get somebody like, a lot of these people are great. They're so good, they're craft. And then when you're like talking to them, I mean, we just had an interview recently about someone like, this guy was a no personality. Another person I was really excited to interview.
Starting point is 00:43:24 I thought they were just gonna be fucking hilarious. And then it was like, Well dude, this is what we gotta do. Cause with this question, I'm considering like someone I wanna meet. That's why Arnold is awesome. Oh Arnold is charismatic. He's charismatic, he's funny.
Starting point is 00:43:37 He would be just, he would be a fucking blast. And there's no doubt about it cause you've seen him already on interviews. But then we gotta think about what would be good for the show. And you know what we gotta got to do, dude, from now on, it's just, we just, we have someone on the show, we just do our show, and they're there. You know what I'm saying? Do I think people, it's hard. Yeah, but it's hard to, it's hard to predict.
Starting point is 00:43:55 It's hard to predict. You keep saying that every time we have a shitty interview, but I'm like, that's so hard to do with the fourth wheel. Yeah. We're, we were made to be, we were made to be a tricycle, dude. What if we just, yeah, we are a tricycle. Yeah, we are a tricycle with, well, and, we were made to be a tricycle, dude. We just, yeah, we are a tricycle, with Doug and the kickstand in a tricycle. I'm saying we're a side cart.
Starting point is 00:44:11 We're a side cart. You know, we just don't do good with four wheels, dude. We don't. What if we did this way? What if instead of saying we're gonna interview you, we said, would you like to be a guest host on an episode of Mind Pump? And then they're just fucking guest host
Starting point is 00:44:25 And we just talk about shit do Q&As and then they can help us that's I felt like the Joe Donnelly shows naturally That's what happened because sometimes Joe would take over the show and just start fucking talking forever Which is great. Yeah, which I thought that's what that's more like what that was lots of energy There wasn't yeah lots of energy. There was you know, it's a fast words We didn't have to ask a ton of questions and try and pull it out of somebody. Like it literally was like that. Every a lot of the other guests, I feel like it's more of an interview style and we're doing that.
Starting point is 00:44:51 So I agree with you. But that person has to have that charisma. They have to have that, hey, I can get under the mic. Yeah. Otherwise, it sounds like Justin's sound like when he first started. No. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:45:03 Don't ask me. Ryan O'Banion, which instrument would you like to learn how to play? Who picked this question? Adam Skin flute. Do you play that all the time? Go ahead Justin, so we can think about what we're gonna do here. I want to play the drums man. It's gonna break shit. Yeah, I already know how to play guitar somewhere. I suck in comparison to some of our followers, holy shit. I've been like going through some of people that have posted about Mind Pump.
Starting point is 00:45:35 And there's just some of these guys that play guitar. I'm just like blown away, dude. I was like, wow. There's this guy, the 9-string guitar guy. I was like going through some of his stuff and I was like, dude, there's this guy, the 9-string guitar guy. I was like, going through some of his stuff. And I was like, dude, this guy's amazing. I am so not even gonna claim that I play guitar now. I'll say this, when it comes to the drums, dude,
Starting point is 00:45:53 because I like music, I'm not a huge, I'm not into it, like you are Justin, but I do enjoy it. I never considered the drums as being like a super impressive instrument, not because I'd looked down upon it. I just didn't pop in my head, right? Because the guitar is the first thing that pops up
Starting point is 00:46:08 until I watched Rush. There was Neil Perk doing his solo and he had this drum set that fucking rotated around him. He was strapped into his chair. He's turning upside down with this shit. He's moving so fast. Sharnoff. Bro, it looks like, I'm thinking that his hands are going to catch fire.
Starting point is 00:46:29 That's how fast he's moving on. How does he keep track of what is going on at any given moment? It's just, it's a different level of cognitive, you know, ability. It's just crazy. His brain is developed, the ridiculous ability to be able to do that. That's most like musicians in general that you just look at them and they're just so superior in like a different, they're on a different wavelength than you, you know, and you can't even like pretend
Starting point is 00:46:53 to be that person because they just have it. I would have loved to, I would love to have gone back in time and to listen to Jimmy Hendrix back then because I'll tell you why, we're used to that sound now, right? That feedback and that. And he invented it. That's what I'm saying. Could you imagine listening to that back then?
Starting point is 00:47:09 For the first time. You know, that was the blown and people must have just, did you know that, you know, he tried out for Carlos Santana as band and then like, you know, they didn't, he didn't make it. Wow. Big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big,
Starting point is 00:47:23 that happened a lot like like primus less clay pole He's like this amazing bassist right and like the bass. He tried out from Metallica didn't make it Wow Wow, you're a little too good. You need to do your own thing. Wow. Yeah, I for me instrument So you guys know I played the trumpet for three years. How's the kid? Do you like a hornblower? You do live like a horse blower. Trump is pretty awesome, dude. It's pretty good.
Starting point is 00:47:49 It's pretty good. So I did that for a few years. It was like whatever. I would really like to enjoy two instruments that really fascinate me. One is the violin. They do the drums already. No, no, I said the drums is cool.
Starting point is 00:48:02 I want to play it though. Oh, got you. One is the violin, and the other one would be the piano. Those are the two instruments that really, which one? Yeah. Number one would be clarinet. I want to be a good clarinet. So you can like breathe fire. Mainly because mainly because I don't know anybody. Homeclad-ass clarinet. And I would be like usually when you get bad ass at clarinet, you end up playing saxophone. That's why. Is that why? Is that really a lot ass clarinet piece. And I would be like, usually when you get bad ass at clarinet, you end up playing saxophone. That's why. Is that why?
Starting point is 00:48:26 Is that really the way that's the progression? No, it's not. Start off with a clarinet. You get good at it and you're like, now it's time for you to graduate to the show. One, two, three, name a song with a clarinet in it. Go. None.
Starting point is 00:48:35 Yeah, my point exactly. So you want a bit of a rock fucking. You want to be. I want to be the Kenny G of clarinet. As you know what I say, you know, I want to be the name. I want to be the name. It's going to be your guy. Yeah, homeets. You don't want to say it. You know, I want to be the I. I want to be able to name it. That's going to be your guy.
Starting point is 00:48:46 Yeah. Homeboy. No, act this with. Truth be told, I actually, the piano, I think, would be really cool. I always wanted to learn the piano. I think the piano is a cool, very great. I started out with that. It's a good one to start with.
Starting point is 00:48:58 It gives you a real good foundation. Is that what it is? Because you have to, like, why? Because you have to read music. You don't have to read music to anything else. I mean, you do, but it's the most, like, straightforward, I would say. Okay.
Starting point is 00:49:12 Yeah, it's like learning the alphabet. It did. Yeah, it's just, I don't know. Yeah, it's very, it's like, elemental, like, okay, this, and you just learn a lot of the structure that way, and like, what the notes mean and all that, so. I don't know, I just feel like, I like of all the instruments. Don't you guys think?
Starting point is 00:49:26 Forget about being in a rock band. You're just a regular dude that knows how to play an instrument. Don't you think playing the piano would get you the most action? Absolutely. That's exactly what I thought. What exactly were my man? No, do you think it's different because we're getting older now? I don't know. I don't know. And those guys. But do you think it's because we're getting older with the thing?
Starting point is 00:49:40 The Matthews guys that are outside, you know, like the dorm rooms. Yeah. They're playing fully. I used to throw stuff at, you know, like the dorm rooms. Yeah. They're playing for each other. I just throw stuff at those guys. Oh, and the guitar. I just feel like if you go to, like, you would go with a girl to a restaurant. There's a piano in the corner and you're like, hold on one second. Yeah, wait a minute.
Starting point is 00:49:55 You walk over them, you play, you just start by. Well, I also think it's like this. Okay, like you just brought at the good point, like a guitar guy, like, you could be a guitar guy and you could be like the total fucking John Mayer fucking who the girls. Yeah, or you could be like the fucking hardcore Have me about it like piano. You're you're just a sex symbol. There's no man the middle. There's no like hard rock piano guy You know, there's no like very kind of junior somebody like that. Yeah, that's impressive That's cool, too, and I think I think that piano Yeah, that's a panty dropper too. And I think I think the piano. Um, yeah, it's a panty dropper dude
Starting point is 00:50:25 Yeah, right. Would you rather be able would you rather be able to sing or play an instrument really well? Well, I would love to be able to sing. I have a terrible voice. It's true. Yeah. So you And you you have a good talking voice. You could learn an instrument. You can't learn really if you got from terrible terrible I'm just you know what? That's what I think too. why do they have singing lessons? Well, you ain't gonna sing Listen, maybe you just haven't found your right genre yet like you'd be a good like soul guy like Can't get enough of you little baby Because I only have one tone. I don't exactly I can't go in here out. You could be that guy. Yeah
Starting point is 00:51:01 There is there is there singers like that that are just one tone. We talk about dude. There's whole bands did look at the Ramon The Ramones had like six chords and like yeah, two toughs. They still fucking really That's all sound the same. That's a very good point those Once and while anybody can do punk rock anybody You're gonna get some hate this true though. It's true. Yeah, they will they just break all the rules You could play three chords and that's what the Ramones did listen to any song by the Ramones and you'll you'll realize just how basic that shit is Like holy fuck there's like to talk to me as a delivery to it. If it doesn't, it's not catchy or whatever. If you don't like come up with something cool, but like, I've been to punk concerts where
Starting point is 00:51:48 they just fucking yell at you. And I don't even know what's going on, but like everybody's going crazy. Did you guys see the 82 year old guy that got on what's the, what's the, what's the singing shows called the one with the three. America's got talent. One of those. Yeah. I think it was America's got talent.
Starting point is 00:52:04 And it was 82 or 85 years old and he came out. I didn't click on it, those. Yeah. I think it was America's got talent. And it was 82 or 85 years old and he came out. I didn't click on it, but I saw you. You got to click on it. He comes out and he does drowning pool, let the bodies of the floor and he fucking rocks it. I was show the whole audience stands up and starts going crazy. That's like that girl that I posted that saying all of a sudden, but she did this in
Starting point is 00:52:24 this growl. Dude, whoa, how are that? Did that watch in this 85 year old guy who's like, he was a Navy pilot engineer. All of the sudden, they kind of asked him what he did before. And here's the thing, like, I've seen those shows and a lot of that shit's totally staged. They pick, they pick the people that are going to embarrass themselves and they know that people are going to laugh at they know it makes good TV. This guy came out and like legitimately looked like he was like putting it down, like trying to put it down and the crowd went fucking nuts and it was so great, dude.
Starting point is 00:52:53 Yeah. Do you guys, what was the group? There was one band that did that to me where the girl's voice was very soft and like sweet and she's small and all of a sudden she comes out and like, Satan came up. No, fly Lee. Fly down. No, fly leaf Fly leaf. Yeah, like in the beginning. I'm like, oh, she's kind of sound sweet whatever and then like just have an essence
Starting point is 00:53:11 It's like that and then just say that he made a room out. Yeah, yeah Yeah, like sweet sweet little girl and then also they Wow, sorry about that. You know what else is surprising? Go on our website mind pump media.com check out some of our testimonies awesome Crazy shit on there. We have our super bundle on there in our maps programs all of our fasting guys Nutrition survival guys also don't forget to leave us a five star reading review on iTunes and check us out on Instagram At mind pump reading out with us on the forum. You can find me at mind pump sal you can find Justin and mind pump Justin and Adam at mind pump You mind pump jatom You can find me at Mind Pumped Sal, you can find Justin at Mind Pumped Justin and Adam at Mind Pumped Adam. You will Mind Pumped Jadam.
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