Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 322: AspireAssist- FDA Approved Bulimia?

Episode Date: July 4, 2016

The FDA has approved a new procedure called AsprireAssist that allows people to eat and then go into the restroom and drain 30% of the food they have just eaten through a tube that has been surgically inserted into their stomach. Does AspireAssist represent a major weight loss/health breakthrough or is it perpetuating dangerous eating habits? Sal, Adam & Justin discuss the implications of this procedure. Get MAPS Anabolic, MAPS Performance, MAPS Aesthetic and the Butt Builder Blueprint (The RGB Super Bundle) packaged together at a substantial DISCOUNT at www.mindpumpmedia.com. Please subscribe, rate and review this show! Each week our favorite reviewers are announced on the show and sent Mind Pump T-shirts!

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You got to tell me about the hats you're more on yeah We have hats on there. We have a peril all on sale mine pump media dot com explosions Get it if you want to pump your body and expand your mind There's only one place to go Might up might up with your hosts Salta Stefano Adam Schaefer and Justin Andrews with your hosts. Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. How about that Game of Thrones? F***ing helly.

I don't watch that shit. You're an idiot. Why? Don't ruin it, dude. I haven't seen it yet. Why would you, why would you take six episodes behind? It's amazing. About Game of Thrones?

Yeah. Isn't that when you and your buddies go eat really bad Mexican food? And then there's only one bathroom Game of thrones That was a Hey, that was off over. I hope we recorded that. I'm giving you a courtesy laugh Although, I hope we have I hope that's recording because we are definitely gonna play that Joe correct there

Fuck you, man. That was bad right? I do appreciate the attempt to get us out of a fun though. Yeah, that was good. I don't even know why we're at such a func. We have this, we're so super critical of ourselves. You know what, they'll talk about humanizing us and sharing with our audience that we just did another seminar and every time we do these seminars, we come back and because it doesn't have this explosive dynamic feel to it like the show does and the chemistry, although we all have it, when we get in front of an audience where we have

to be somewhat censored and filtered a little bit, all of a sudden everybody is not themselves. And then we come back and... That's go up into my stomach. Well, and we're fine, but I feel like we were so critical of ourselves You know everybody comes afterwards and it was terrible fucked up. We don't want you that fucked I was just like whoa dude hold on one second here like there was one time when we started podcasting and we got on and we were Pretty fucking terrible too, and I thought we were awesome at the time After I was done. I'm like, I'm perfect.

Listen to it now. I'm like, wow. No, you know what, dude, I'm telling you right now, we were talking about this, it takes practice. Here's a deal. We've done, I personally have done probably 100 seminars, but they're seminars. I've never done this in front of people.

So it's just different, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. It's very, very different. Well, I think it's because you put the pressure on yourself to be funny because it is like that, right? The podcast has a lot of humor to it. So people enjoy the humor. And just like you, I've done all these seminars my whole life

and they're always like educational. It's always facts and science. And it's not like, I don't get up. I've never like entertained people. I don't get up on stage. I've never been on stage to entertains one for the most part the audience doesn't come out with like Super humorous stuff to really like prime it and get it all like in that well the audience is it's not up to them Well, it's not to them, you know what I mean like so that's you know that that's where I think There was the interaction can change and it can create a whole new thing

Well, there's that old technique where you picture like I was picturing Justin naked, but that didn't make me Funny, I think next I just can be a boner. Yeah, next time I think I'm just gonna come naked I think that's the idea I think I'm show up that way. Yeah, yeah, I think that'll loosen everybody up I mean you do that and do jumping jacks and everybody else do this I think that'll loosen everybody up. Would you do that and do jumping jacks? Everybody else do this. This is awful, big, little slaps. Slaps.

Dude in the dark. Hey, you're taking off. Are you taking off soon where you heading off to? I am, yeah. I'm going to the lake, Lake Almoner up north. Yeah, no, I know, very familiar. Yeah. What do you do up there?

I'm gonna teach my sons how to fish. What do you, well, really, what kind of fish do you have? All the way up there to fish. Well, a little bit. Well, there's the other shit, I'm sure teach my sons how to fish. What do you, well, really what kind of fish? You have all the way up there to fish. Well, a little bit. Well, there's the other ship, I'm sure you're gonna go stay up there. Yeah, there's, there's, well, yeah, we're staying at this place actually.

Normally I camp there, but we're actually, we got a place and we're gonna have a boat. And so some days we'll do some wakeboard and stuff like that. And then I'm really excited just about like teaching the boys like fishing and how to put the hooks on and- Or are you gonna go like the shit out

and a little boat? You're gonna go out and a little boat and shit? No, I'm actually doing stream fishing with them. Oh, yeah. I used to do fly fishing. I was really into it back. What kind of fish do you catch up there? What are you going?

Trout. Yeah, rainbow trout. What's the nutrition on the rainbow trout? Is anybody now? The macros? Yeah. Nutrition. It's probably the last thing I think of.

It's not a fatty fish, is it? Well, it's not as fatty as salmon, but it's not as lean as tilapia. So it's a fresh water fish? It's a fresh water fish. Yeah, it's fresh water fish. But it would fall. It tastes great immediately after you catch it. Yeah.

How do you prepare it, Justin? Yeah. And, you know, a little bit of breaded butter, you know, I forget it. Yeah, that's delicious. Like a pan-seer kind of. That's the list. Yeah.

So every time I go on to nature, for whatever reason, I get hammered. I feel like that's what you're supposed to do. Really? Well, there's always that. And if I'm camping and I'm, it's nice. It's nice. It's like we're gonna get smashed every time. And it helps with sleeping, you know,

because you're in a tent. Yeah, you know, in case a bear decides to eat you the meal and I can at least you're like in a good mood. Did I tell the story of the fucking bear, the whole thing when I went up to Yosemite? Did I tell that on the podcast? I believe you did. I did, didn't I?

I did. Your first experience with a black bear? No, not when I got chased, but when I brought the bear did. I did, didn't I? I did. You're first experience with a black bear. No, not when I got chased, but when I brought the bear spray, did I tell you about that? I did. I don't know about the bear spray. That's a bear spray. It's remember you run away from one. No, man.

I went to, I went to up to, what is it? Yosemite. Is it Yosemite that's nearby? Yes. That's the one, right? Yeah, half of it. And everybody's like, oh, there's bears in this and that. You got bears around there. So I said, okay, I don't know. Bams bears

like they freak me out, especially have my kids there. So I bought bear spray, which comes in a big ass like hairspray camera. Maybe the other was bear spray. It's basically just like bear piss. So suckered him into that one. Right. No, it's sell the city folks some bear sprays fucking aerosol that they just put in some of that that net spray hairspray for chicks. There's full of chemicals and piss. No, I know it's legit and this is why. So I carried this fucking thing up with me the whole time we're there.

We take the little shuttle bus to go to one of the scenic areas. We're coming back. It's crowded. I get off the shuttle bus and the freaking can falls out of its holster or whatever and it hits the ground and I hear psssss. Oh no. And I look down and the fucking thing is it punctured somehow. So my dad is so fucking, he's so fast and he grabs a newspaper and covers it.

But some of it had already like, missed it into the air, but it was windy. So I hear coughing and choking like, whoa, whoa, whoa, I look across the street, bro It blew the the bear spray cloud across the street and there's like there's like three people like speeding and puking and like Yeah, dude, it was me. I did that. What is it? It's like pepper spray you created it But they but they were like oh my god What is it? They're like screaming and my dad like picked up the can with a newspaper through in the garbage and we're like, we kept walking. He's like, shut up, keep going.

Where are you little? How are you? Dude, this was like three, four years ago, five years ago. Oh my god. Yeah, bro. It was like, and it sucked because it was like, it was like a couple, like a mom and dad, and like they're like 14 year old kid.

And they must have been like, oh my god, it's a terrorist attack. What's going on? Imagine if you're walking all of a sudden like this myth of shit that makes Mucas come out of your face and because that's what it was, like they were spitting. They were spitting and I was watching like for two seconds

that like they were like just spitting. It must be like pepper spray. It must be like pepper and steroids. It's so strong. Dude, I was, it's like a bear in pepper spray. Like you get the regular pepper spray for humans, I would think that the bear spray has to be like, twice as crazy.

So embarrassing, right? I'm so glad I didn't bring my gun. Don't you get it, Google that. I'm gonna risk it. I'm full. What's inside? Whipsy spray. I shot someone.

Where did you get, where do you buy that at? Bear spray? Yeah. What was that? 7-11. No, yeah, I wish. What is that, R-E-I? I will have a pack of marble reds and some big Lee Choo What was that? 7-11? No, yeah, I wish. What is that? R.E.I.

I will have a pack of marble reds and some big Lee Choo and I'll take some of that pepper sprays with bears. No, no, no, we'll rest. R.E.I. R.E.I. I sell this. Oh, yeah, I had everything. And I had a holster for it.

I was prepared for the bears, dude. I was, dude, that night, the night before, we slept at, what is that curry village? You guys know where that is over there? I do. It's like the tents that are like kind of tents, but they're kind of not. And that night me and you know some some people that came with us got like we just got baked on some really strong sativa. And sativa sometimes has a tendency to see paranoia.

So I'm in the tent and it's like you hear every noise and shit and I'm just thinking there's bears you know dude I had a horrible night. Yeah. So I'm in the 10th and it's like, you hear every noise and shit and I'm just thinking there's bearers gonna, you know. Dude, I had a horrible night. I'm not made for nature. Yeah, it was really like some guy just snoring. Yeah, I'm not made for that shit. It's a little scary.

I love nature, man. Dude, yeah. Dude, dude, the shit camping. Dude, you do like real camping though. Not car camping. No, no, no, no, no, please dude. I actually, I've slept in a sleeping bag and nothing else before too.

What do you eat, don't you? When you're out there. Well, I mean, now it's totally different because I got kids and like, you know, everything's all about being comfortable. Yeah, but when you go on your own or when you went with your whatever, your friends would, I would just eat like, they call it like gorp, you know,

it's like this whole like trail mix with all this like plethora of nuts and like berries and all this like shit. And then you poop and you just dig a hole. You just dig a hole all the way. You bring your trowel. Really? Take a shit, wipe with leaves. You know what dude, we should do a mind pump camping.

I mean Adam, are you shaking your head like? No way bro. You guys are too, you guys are too girly for that. I think I'd be more down than you would. You 100% wouldn't. You guys wouldn't even last. I've talked about YouTube and just like, so my two childhood best friends are just like

YouTube knuckleheads. And just like them, I never go on. They go on these trips all the time. They just go up, so they just went there, like I don't know, a couple of months ago, they went up to you Simmity, and there's three of them, right? They brought another one of our buddies.

And the deal was, one of the guys really likes to fish. And so he was, and the other guy is like, Dude, I caught all my own food. That's done all that. So these guys go up there, and they literally go with no food. And you're going there for three days, and you have to live off the land. So they survive her, man. They backpack.

Get me an animal, do a three day fast. Exactly. We come back here, man. That's not that. That's what we do. They do that and they find that super fun to hike back for fucking 50 miles and out of nowhere and then find their food to eat.

Did I even tell you guys, yeah, before football camps, this is before like hell week, double days, all that stuff in college. Some of the guys that I played with, we all went on this like canoeing trip, all that stuff in college. Some of the guys that I played with, we all went on this canoeing trip, and so this is in Minnesota. It's like at this place where you get to take a canoe with you, and all you have is some powdered foods

to cook whatever you catch with. And so we're carrying all this shit with us, and then you'd have to, you go on the lake, you could actually drink water from the lake because it was so untouched and all that kind of stuff. And so we would like carry the canoe in between lakes. There was like 30 lakes. And we were just like trucking through all these

and yet I have to paddle. The last night we were there, there was this huge moose. And so we were tripping out, like watching this thing was like a fucking dinosaur. It was so big, dude. It was so big dude. It was like looking right at us. And all of a sudden, like there was this storm that came out of nowhere and just started like

hailing on us and shit. And then like, I swear to God, the winds picked up so much that we had these huge waves. And I'm like, I'm trying to like paddle as hard as I can to get the shore just purely exhausted. We haven't caught anything. And and did it was gnarly. It was like the most gnarly trip I've ever seen. You totally not fun enough.

You just do totally whatever chances we had to sell like closing Adam on doing camping. You've destroyed it. I'm just saying that like, you know, I can handle it. Like I said, my two best friends, this is what they do all the time. So I and I do have no desire to go. I always tell them, what if we went, what if we, when I go camping, so we go camping every year. Dude, you guys will earn your, your man car with me.

I already did all that shit. Let's do that. That's the way I look at it. Like I've already done all that stuff. So I have nothing. Dude, if you do that, I'll paint my toes. I have nothing to prove. How about that?

And I've, and I've, Oh, good one. So first of all, I've, I've already figured out that I cannot, I, I have to shower before I go to bed. So I out that I cannot, I have to shower before I go to bed. So I have to go to shower before I go to bed. I don't like going to bed sticky and filling all nasty. So if I don't have a place where I can shower right away, that's already a fucking man. You can dunk your nuts in the lake. I also don't like being hot. So if we do camp, it has to be the time where it's fucking cool. I have a double air mattress

that I bring with my, right, my, my, my, with my thousandth red sheets that I bring that I will, that I will most certainly bring when I go camping. So when I can't, I've got a fucking king size air mattress and the, I got the idea, I got the idea. I'm just, I got a nice break or a hotel room or I'll be at the hotel room right at the road.

I got some bro, I can do that too. I'm just saying, I can rough it, it's all good. I wanna do it, I wanna do it just and did, not in the canoe and that crazy shit, but you know, it's somewhere in the middle, but what if we did this? What if we got one of those RVs? We got one of those cruise America RVs

and we did a fucking little trip and that, dude. Would you do that? You do that, right? Yeah, I would do that. Plus we don't. Yeah, we could always park in a really fancy hotel anyway, so it's not a big deal. Yeah.

Fuck you. You ever down a roadie with you guys in that and just park it. Oh, look, there's the, there's the Hilton pulling right there. Yeah. It's all made a room. You get a room real quickly.

You guys stay down here and sleep on your twins. I don't know, I'm not camping. I'm gonna hunt too. I'm down to hunt. Well, that's it, man. You guys sound like a bunch of fucking seven year olds right now, dude. Yeah, what?

It's all this stuff you do when you're a kid anymore. Hunting? Yeah, have you not done all that stuff yet? I've never gotten hunting really No, I'm never gonna. You camp though, right? I've camped but it's always been car camping like I've never done like backpacking Wow, okay my life, but you why you've got hunting? Yeah, I've done all that stuff I've hunted I've had a deer really no terrible at it. Why it's just one of those things where you sit and wait wait wait forever Yeah, I just I'm that just like fishing. It's why I don't like fishing very often You know I would I have not done you're not drinking. That's why I need to drink Yeah, I don't think hunting you just can't kill me. Oh really that's a best they don't let that happen Yeah, I don't think that's a fishing and drinking is okay. It's okay. Okay. I'm really fishing this weekend

So I'll be I'll be you go fishing to yeah, I'm going fishing this weekend, so I'll be, I'll be you go fishing too. Yeah, I'm going fishing this weekend. I'll be out, we'll be out DC fishing out in San Diego. I've never fished either. So deep sea fishing I enjoy, it's a little more active and it's a little more fun. Regular fishing though. Yeah, but like you, you have in fly fish. That's the only one I haven't done.

So I've, I love it. Yeah, stream fish, deep sea fish, done lake fishing, done all this shit like that. But I have not fly fish. My buddy's getting into fly fishing right now. I could see myself getting into that a little bit because there is a technique and a skill to it. I think I could, oh, very, yeah.

Yeah, I think I could get into that. It's just, it's not my thing. It's not my thing right now. I shouldn't, I shouldn't knock on it because I'm sure there's a lot of listeners that love to fish. Yeah, we're all old and stuff. Yeah, I might want to do that right now

I'm I still feel physically capable of doing things that are like a little more active than sitting on a lawn chair Yeah, I like get you away from electronics and all that bullshit Yeah, like it's like you're down there like there's no distractions like it's this Zen state you get in like it's It's like this whole the cast and pull like Yeah, it's sick. So you just gotta get into it. So you want to hear something I've been looking into? I haven't even told you guys You have you guys heard of these silent meditation retreats? Have you heard of these before?

Where you go like they have that over and we're happens if you fart, huh? No, they're just you just they you excommunicated communicated just like I can go. I'm sorry guys I'm out Talk to you can't talk and you meditate all day Katrina goes those all time. Does she really? Yeah, yeah, she's been trying doesn't that sound horrible? It does they do it. They say it's extremely fun. I do it. It sounds super super challenging Could you imagine me not talking for longer than 10 minutes? Yeah, especially with all of us together. What if I die? That's how I'm alive. Yeah, probably. You know what I mean? Probably. I would I would want to do it though. I feel like I don't know if I'd

want to be on the podcast after that when you come back. Yeah, I just feel like it would be a major challenge. I want to do something like that. We need to do something dude, the four of us need to do something challenging. You know what I'm saying? How about our work? Huh? How about our work? We love that type of challenging, we love that shit. Let's go cliff to a point.

We have plenty of it. We have plenty of it. So this is the two on the same canoeing trip. No, cliff jumping. Listen man, when you're in a bad mood, fuck. All right, you can't convince them out of it no it's not even a mud of yeah you are

get out of here get out of here just because I don't want to camp dude I don't like camping no but I said let's do some pool no it just said yeah so we would have moved on yeah exactly now it's like I'm like I'm like I'm hanging out with you two fuckers as you're just like my other two friends I can't hang out with them when they do that now I got you guys want to do so I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like,

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and look at the waves crashing on the ocean. That's what I want to, and then beat tapped on my shoulder. Mr. Schaefer, we're ready for your massage now. And then I come over and then I get massage for a little bit and then someone feeds me again. And then I go into my hotel room that's air condition at 59 degrees.

You did our well in ancient Rome with my just your shape. Just your shape. Bath tub that I can climb in and out of because it feels so amazing. Mr. Schaefer your butthole white name. Uh, a point is pretty. That sounds about as fun as the goddamn trip you're talking about right there. Do I want to get my ass bleached or do I want to go camping with these two? I will get my ass bleached actually.

Yeah, it's kind of look good. Exhaust will be a hater. I don't, you know, I did all I said was let's do something different and cool. in my ass for just actually. Yeah, it's got to look good. Exhaust will be a hater. I don't, you know, I did all I said was, let's do something different and cool. And you're like, you guys could go ahead. I'm gonna work. No, you didn't.

You said, let's do something different and cool. And then you followed it up with fucking hunting and fishing. No, no, I said, no, last, it's a good thing we recorded this. We'll listen to what I said. We will. I would never poo poo the fact of you just saying. Oh God. I'm, I'm, let's do something to you. And here goes with the bad words.

Let's do something cool. Let's do something cool. No, no, no, I don't want to do anything cool. I would never say that, bro. Let's do something cool. But what you are describing as cool is not very cool to me. I mean, you're, that's all.

That's all. Well, at least like shoot guns or, you know what I mean? Like, can we do something like, so we have a little more testosterone right on the sides getting my my but hold massage Something else we don't talk about that on oh shit I took that total left turn right there Called sphincter release dammit. No, I yeah shooting guns. That's great. Yeah one right at the road I just did that like three weekends ago

So I still go do all those manly things But that to me is way cooler than sitting and waiting for a fish to bite my hook Or going hunting and sitting in a tree for us and no disrespect to our guy I know I have a lot of we have a lot of fans. I know that hunt and fish all the respect in the world Those are my people and I would be cool I got like I would like to do some like, you safari, you know what I'm saying? Like if we're gonna go do something crazy,

then we'll go see some lions and tigers and bears, oh my. That was, yeah. On a safari? Yeah. I don't think there's bears in. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's not, that'd be crazy though.

That would be, there's tigers. Yeah, yeah. In Africa. And there's lions there. Yeah, tigers are in Asia. They don't have any tigers over there. Not in Africa. Really? No, no, that dog

You don't have to we everybody fucking knows it What's bigger a lion or tiger a lion no tigers bigger a Tigers bigger than a lion tigers bigger than a lion, but which one will win in a fight lion? Oh Liger a lot all day no a lion Liger a tiger is bigger than a lion correct Correct, where is this coming from you just like 800 pounds as they can get up to you some dog We need to get you on the Google here. It's how I was just making six hundred pounds All right, look it up dog while we have this conversation first Well, there's no breed of any types of tigers in Africa. That's completely. There's no no tigers in Asia. Okay

Only in Asia. It's very true. Like, you know what Asia means? They're not talking about just China. There's India. Yeah, India, all those countries. That's where the Tigers are. But Tigers are bigger than lions, but lions will probably beat a tiger in a fight because lions fight all the time.

Tigers don't. Tigers are more solitary, whereas lions are always fighting for their bitches. You know what I mean? Like who's going to get the most what's the weight difference? Yeah, pussy. Huh? The weight difference? Yeah, I'm here.

Yeah, but the female lines is the ones that like hunt. They are, but the male lions male lines come in regularly. He just gags their. Yeah. Let's see here. What did they say, Adam? The tigers being stronger and larger than lions are a potential threat for survival of lions Known to weigh up to 800 pounds 800 pounds. I said it

African lions Way up to 550 well, they have one with father that's significantly. I know. Yeah, I know You know what we've learned today with this lesson so watch us a lot of national What we've learned today with this lesson. So I watch a lot of national g-graphic. That's exactly what we learned. What's the lesson of today's episode? And I watch the same shows.

Adam is geographically retarded and so loves to point out his national geographic fucking knowledge. That's what we learned. Well, listen, I read a lot, one percent cooler than what you were. I read, and I always started spot-guess. A lot of national geographic when I was a kid, because that was the only place to see boobs.

Oh yeah, me too. You know what I'm saying? Were you see the tribal boobs? Oh, it was safe. That was the only place. It was the only place to see boobs when I was a kid. I was like, you know what's happening?

What? I hate to, Is that the bowter sound? Yeah, I think, you know me. Oh, that's my spidey sense is kickin' in. I hate to detour you from your knowledge, your drop in us right now,

but I would like to discuss the topic that you grazed over the other day. And I can't believe we just kind of, we dropped it in an episode and then we didn't talk anything about it. Because personally, I know you're talking about. I think this is gonna be a fucking big deal over the next couple of years.

And that is the surgery, the bulimia machine that you brought up that you referred to as the bulimia surgery. What was the name of it again? Bulimia surgery. It was, oh, something gastric. Aspire. Aspire? It's an aspire.

Yeah, it's a spire gastric, something, or whatever. No, I don't need to call it gastric. I just know it's a spire, something, another A. Yeah, so this is a procedure where they essentially put what's called a pick line into your stomach. So it's basically like kind of like catheter. Yeah. It goes one way into your stomach and so you have this tube coming out of your stomach. So you always have it. It's always there. And what you do is you go eat your meal and then you go to the bathroom afterwards and you empty out

the some of the contents of your stomach. So and so you lose weight as a result. It's like basically one step above a cost of me bag. It's bro, it is, it's literally bulimia. Yeah. There is no, there is no difference. The only difference is at least when you have, when you're bulimic, there's a little work involved and I hate to, you know, I'm not making jokes. It's a little, it's kind of funny.

You're not lazy. Yeah. But it is the lazy way. It's the lazy way. Come on, do your work and throw up like a normal, lazy bitch. Yeah. Fuck.

No, but at least take your fingers down your throat. They're so inappropriate and I love it. It's so bad. But it's horrible because I can only imagine how much worse people's eating disorders are going to get with this. Like let's say you go to the dark. We take out what two thirds of what the stomach disorders are gonna get. Oh, horrendous. With this. Like, let's say you go to the dot. You check out what two thirds of what the stomach contents that are in there.

They only leave you with one third of it gets absorbed. It's sad because you know there's people who are gonna read these news reports and be like, oh shit, I want that. You know what I'm saying? I can eat cake. But think about it. Like, first of all, to qualify for the surgery,

you're probably a hundred pounds overweight. So you've got a lot of weight to lose, which means you have a serious issue. You can just make a qualification for it. Yeah, it's like gastric bypass. Well, yeah, they're marking it, yeah, just like that, like lap band kind of, like they're going for the super obese. I think insurance will recover it for those kind of people,

but I think you may be able to find, you probably can find doctors that'll do it for you. Sure, yeah. Yeah. Did you guys ever find doctors that'll do it for sure. Yeah, yeah. Did you guys ever get this? I had this because I was right. We had a gym across the street from Kaiser. I'll never forget getting people like this. It blew my mind, right?

Same thing in order to get the gastric bypass, they had to be like, they'd lose a little bit of weight. Well, no, they had to be like 60 or 80 pound. They had to be at least 60 or 80 pounds overweight. Or so, I don't remember what the number was. Oh, I know what you're gonna say. And I would get people to come hire me and they actually would tell me that they're like hire me to set them up afterwards.

And they're like, oh, well, I still need to gain 10 more pounds before I qualify for this surgery. Correct. Otherwise the insurance won't cover it. I was like, wow, whoa, dude. The mindset of people like that, you mean to tell me you're gonna put yourself in a worst predicament so you just so you could have this fucking terrible surgery. Oh yeah. That's just, that's a little happening.

Bro, it's scary because if you're one of those people that needs to lose a hundred pounds, you're talking about, you have serious issues with food, you have a serious addiction to food. And if you, you know, have a procedure that doesn't prevent you from eating, at least that gastric bypass does that. It kind of makes you not be able to eat. It's saying, no, don't worry about it. Just just purge it out of your stomach afterwards. I can only imagine what people are going to do when they have

that, that, that free card or whatever. You know what I mean? That get out of jail card like, oh, this is great, I'm just gonna go continue doing what I'm doing. If anything, people will probably eat worse than they were before. Oh of course. You know, and I can foresee this thing getting clogged, I can foresee potential infections,

I can see people really fucking themselves out. Well remember we brought that up in the girl, so was it was she a nurse? She was a nurse at a hospital. Yeah, she works in a department that deals with... We brought this up in the seminar Yeah And I so I trained a lot of surgeons and I asked in the same question

I said, you know, there must be a high infection potential for this and my client said well Not any more than a normal pick line in reality. It's connected to the stomach and the stomach is pretty Resilient, you know, I mean you could get back to your in the stomach and it'll it'll destroy most of the penny and you would live Yeah, I don't penny and you would live. Yeah, I don't get a penny. I can't you? Sure. Yeah, clean that stuff.

You would die if you had a money for it. I've done that before. I'm sure every kid is a penny at least once. I'll tell my soul of four quarters and pooped out of the bowl. The best part's fishing it out. Yeah. So, but it's, you know, it's, I can only imagine how it's going to encourage. I can only imagine how it's going to encourage.

I've had clients get gastric bypass. Gastric bypass is where they remove a majority of the stomach and they leave a small pouch. That's probably the size of a thumb for the stomach. And so when you have that, you can eat much because it's painful and it'll make you throw up or whatever. And so people will get gastric bypass.

I've actually had a few clients lose 100 pounds, 80 pounds with gastric bypass. And then years later, with the small pouch, with the most of their stomach removed, actually game, most of it back, because they've eaten and stretched out that little pouch, like so impressive almost, that they could do that, bro.

It's a fine, the loss of nature. Well, if you don't realize it's an addiction, it's a fucking addiction, yeah. It's a fucking addiction. Well, and just like we always talk about adaptation, what happens is the body just gets adapted in taking that much over time. 100 more calories, 100 more calories, 100 more calories,

it's not much just keeps stretching, stretching, stretching before long. You're back to being able to hold in just as many calories, which you were when you got to that point. The reality is if you're one of those people and you have that big a problem with food, have to number one except that you have a problem an addiction and you cannot treat the symptom you have to treat the root of the addiction the symptom of your addiction is obesity now you treat obesity and

I understand there's emergency situations where oh fuck if we don't get this person lose weight they're gonna die under their own weight And it's just at that level But if you just treat the symptom you will never you'll never solve your problem And you have to be willing to caught to treat the root cause of this food addiction and that is very difficult It's not unlike an alcoholic who you know, you tell them just stop drinking alcohol Well, if you don't treat the root cause of that alcoholism, what triggered it, you know, all these different. Why are you eating that much food? Why are you eating so horribly? Is it depression? Is it trauma? Many times these people were traumatized through, you know,

abuse or molestation or coping mechanisms, something makes them feel good, you know, to sort of, You come from a coping mechanism, something makes them feel good, you know, to sort of, when they're in a situation where they don't feel like they're, you know, they're doing well, like this is how they medicate, you know, on some level, like it just makes them feel good to like comfort them. Well, what they, a lot of them what they'll do is they eat alone. They, you know, you'll see people like this, well, they'll go out with friends and you'll see the food that they order when they're with their friends, and it's very normal. The order, most people are ordering around, and it kind of puts out the illusion that maybe

this person, God, I mean, they don't eat that much food, but when they leave, it's what they do on their own. On the way home, they stop by the drive-thru and get a shitload of food, and they go eat in their room by themselves, because the candy bars under the mattress and all this crazy stuff. They're they're medicating with food, some root issue and if you're in that situation, you have to be willing to deal with that root issue and what does that mean? Think about this.

If there's a root issue that's causing you to literally kill yourself, that's going to take some fucking time. You're going to go see a therapist, maybe a psychiatrist. You're gonna work with a good personal trainer, a good nutrition coach, and cut yourself some slack. Give yourself a little empathetic to yourself, and realize that this, you might not lose any weight for years, but this is a process.

You're gonna have to deal with some deep demons before you can handle the situation. Because if you go and you get a procedure done, here's another interesting thing. People who get gastric bypass have a very high incidence of after getting gastric bypass higher than the average person of addiction, alcoholism or drug addiction or sex addiction or what and for the other because what you've done is you've taken away their coping mechanism. You've taken away their drug so now you can't eat like you

did before because you'll puke so they turn to other things depression sometimes gets much much worse so here's a person who lost a hundred pounds and yet they're more depressed than they were before because they've lost their coping mechanism. And this new procedure, I can't even believe, of course I have the FDA approved it, right? I can't believe that, I, of course they do, puts money in their pocket. It's, come on, it's, to me, it's unbelievable,

but I think it's important to understand that obesity, sure, obesity, by itself, can cause health problems. The reality, obesity is a symptom of poor health. And if we think of it that way, if we think of obesity being a symptom of poor health and not the cause of poor health, then we start to treat ourselves a little bit differently.

Because a lot of times people think, oh, if you're overweight, that being overweight makes you unhealthy. The reality is you can have two people who are very healthy and have a 30 pound weight difference. You can have, you know, there's a lot, every year, there's thousands and thousands of Americans

who are lean, who have, you know, diabetes, who get, who get, you know, type, you know, on set diabetes or type two diabetes, or who die from heart, you know, disease, who aren't really ever overweight. And then you have people who are relatively overweight, 30, 40 pounds overweight, and they're relatively healthy. So I think we need to look at obesity as the, and what I mean by healthy is they're relatively

in terms of the, you know, some of their markers of blood or whatever, but we got to look at like obesity, especially severe obesity, as a symptom of something else that's going on. Of course, it's your lifestyle. But what's causing that problem? And start to look at that and take it from there. When we were at the seminar, one of our, one of the people came up to me and she was talking to me how, how she gained something like 50 pounds after her divorce. And she didn't realize it was completely due to stress, you know what I mean? But imagine if someone like that just went and just treated the obesity and not treated the actual cause of the obesity.

How far do you think they would get? Well, what are some of the things? I'm glad we went in this direction because I feel like, you know, we do spend a lot of times on this podcast talking about performance and getting the maximizing your workouts and, you know, timing and protein and kind of a lot of advanced talk for the, and that's probably a majority of listeners, but in reality, if you're not a listener already or you sure you know somebody who, you know, struggles with obesity, I mean, shit more than half the country is struggling

with it. So, and it's a very real thing. It's something that we, I'm sure you guys both, I know I have trained tons of trainer or clients that have struggled with this. I remember one time I had a client, and the only way I found that found all this out was, she ended up dating a buddy of mine way down the road.

So, I had this client for like seven years, and she was always like, she carried herself buddy of mine, way down the road. So I had this client for like seven years. And you know, she was always like, she carried herself between the lowest I had ever seen her was about 180 pounds, the highest I'd ever seen her was about 240 pounds. So this like 60 pound fluctuation. And she was a thick solid girl. So at 180, he was probably the best. And she probably would be really ideal, probably about 150 pounds for her size and her frame. And I remember, she never let me, like she would never let me weigh her, because she never wanted to look at it when I finally convinced her to weigh.

She would stand backwards on the scale. She always wanted me to talk to her about food, but when she would share with me what she was eating, I knew that she was lying to me. But, you know, I could never call her out on her because if I did, she got defensive and it turned out, so was this kind of cat and mouse game for many years that I played with her. And I didn't know until later on, like, how severe and how bad it was when my buddy would tell me he was dating this, dating her and he'd say, man, he's all, and he's like, I can't call her out. He's like, you have just, there's, she gets crazy. When I say something to her, like, we'll go, just like,

and you mentioned this is what reminded me of it was, she'd go eat, they go out to a restaurant, they go eat, she'd make her healthy choice, and she'd eat all good. And then she'd take off, like, she's going to the bathroom, or she'd make a phone call, and then she would go like to like a burger, or something really quick, and then,

and she would order junk, or candy, or something, and then she'd like shove it down, like her face, like around the corner, like shovel it down and then come back to the dinner table. Or he would ask her, you know, are you been good on your diet? You've been eating good, oh yeah, yeah, I'm good, good. And then he'd be cleaning the house

and he'd find like a Ziploc bag full of like all these different types of candies, like stuffed in the couch. Yeah, like stuffed in the couch in a Ziploc bag. I've seen that same sort of candies, like stuffed in the couch. Yeah. Like stuffed in the couch in a ziplock bag. I've seen that same sort of mentality, like growing up even with some kids that like I knew that, you know, we're trying really hard to be active and be fit and all this stuff,

but they just like, they could not kick that sugar addiction. Like they would bring candy bars with them to these camps and, you know, I'd be there and they would stick them under the mattress and hide it and like be really possessive about it and I lived with two like a very obese guys in college and open my eyes up to the entire lifestyle I was yeah, it was like and you know I would fight them on some things but but like, I mean, even when I would eat out, we would eat like, Wendy's or something. I would usually just, I'd get like a chicken sandwich or I'd get like a salad or something sometimes. They'd always make fun of me and they'd eat like, like ridiculous amounts of like cheeseburgers and bacon

and, you know, all this shit with like the, they dip their fries and the frosties and all this kind of stuff. But anyway, we would go to like all these buffets and all this kind of stuff and just the inactivity alone when we're all hanging out together. Like they just didn't wanna do anything. They just wanted to sit around and watch movies

and all this kind of stuff. And it really affected me. And I got to a place where I gained quite a bit of weight as well, just being around that. And it definitely is, it's the environment that was created. And it was a mentality that I didn't share, but I got sucked into it. Because you do, like your body gets to that point where it's like, well, this is what I'm gonna be doing. I'm gonna make this work.

Well, I think we need to appreciate, truly appreciate the pain and the difficulty and many times the lack of awareness that's people in this situation are in. It's a very painful, it's so painful in fact, to many of these people that they block it out and are completely unaware of it. So they're not even aware of what they're medicating for or what it's like they're buried it inside.

We need to take a step back and really appreciate that. I'll use myself that an example and Adam, you could probably even relate. I'm sure, I'm pretty sure, because I know it was for me, but I'm pretty sure there was a point in your life where if someone said skinny to you, it was like, fuck. Of course.

It was just a painful word to hear, right? For a long time. Yeah, where someone says, oh, you're skinny and it was like, now if someone says something to me, I'm so much more confident, it kind of rolls over me. But it was a difficult thing for me to hear when somebody would say something like, oh, you know, why don't you eat some more food, you're so skinny or, you know, you look so thin. It was, to the point where even today, if I get lean and someone uses the word skinny

instead of lean, it hits me in a much more visceral way. You need to consider that, and I know I did things with my health that were not excellent as a result. Think of that how we were that way, right? Now imagine that probably much worse just on the other end of it. You've got people who are dealing with some of these issues. Some of them go in the direction of eating disorders

and in terms of anorexia, bulimia. And some of them just don't even, they just, they're so unaware. I've had clients, because I've trained quite a few people in this situation. And it's always shocking to me at just how deep it goes. I've had clients that just don't, they don't look in the mirror. Literally, they literally tell me, I don't look in the mirror.

I know, I've heard that. I don't ever take my clothes off in front of a mirror because they just, they forget it. They watch it. They watch it. They watch it. They watch it. They watch it.

I don't want to step on the scale. I've had people come in like that, that they just don't want to know, because they just know that they're there, they're trying to make themselves better. They don't want to really sit and and and objectively look at you know What where they are at the gym are so defeated already. Yeah, that's it. It's a it's a defeated Totally a defeated mentality. I think there needs to be number one I don't necessarily think we need to create all kinds of public programs where

we treat it like they're a minority group or anything like that. I'm not going in that direction, but I will say this, we should appreciate the difficulty and intensity of the situation and have some empathy for that situation. Because yes, it is very simple. Move more and eat less. Very, very, very simple. Move more and eat less. I very, very simple. I know what the formula is. Here's the formula.

Stop eating shitty food and start moving. But it's not nearly that simple. There is a level of difficulty there that unless you've been there, you just don't understand. You simply don't understand. It's very similar. And if you've ever had somebody in your family

who's been addicted to a drug, if you've ever had or alcohol, you've ever watched them kill themselves. Yeah, I mean, literally addicted, like that have not just somebody who just drinks a lot or does stuff a lot, or somebody who's been addicted to a hard drug or alcohol, it's a very similar, very, very similar situation.

And it is very sad because there is something psychological and physical that's going on. At that point, you've been pumping that much sugar into your body. Your body is hardcore to that. That's the problem. Just like an addict, if you go the same way, too, where you cut it cold turkey and you try and do that after you've been binging so long for so, and your body craves it like crazy and then they go through withdrawals and headaches

and I mean the same type of stuff is cool. Well, I know it's tough too, because there's people that grow up, like what's modeled to them is this way of eating and they don't really know anything else. You know, like, hey, obese parents tend to have obese kids. It's so, like it just happens all the time.

It's like, I mean, like, it's so impressionable, like, that, like, it's just like a relationship, you know, this is a relationship with food. We always talk about this, but, you know, this develops, like, very early on in, in, like, how you, you treat it and how, you know, like, what, what you're feeding into is it all about these tastes and sugars and sweetness and all these yummy sensations you get out of it, all pleasure-driven mechanisms or is it more about listening to what it's doing to you, nourishing you, making you feel energetic and, you know,

all these other things we try and voice because I feel like people kind of step away from that and then they're so, you know, driven by sensation. Well, here's the thing, we gotta keep in mind, there's regular overweight and then there's what we're talking about, which is, you know, severe, severe addiction to food. Addiction to food, we throw that around, like it's all over the place.

And the truth is, at one point or another, most of us have experienced some type of addictive feelings from food, whether we get the withdrawal from cutting out sugar or certain types of cravings or whatever. But when I were talking about real, real addiction to food, this is a completely different monster. And when I started working with some of these people to food, this is a completely different monster.

And when I started working with some of these people, I couldn't appreciate it until I started working with them. And then I realized that this is a completely, this is a completely different animal. This is a whole nother monster. I'll never forget, like I went to Disney World years ago, and Disney World, a lot of people from the South go there. So you see a lot more obesity, because that part there. So you see much more, you know, you see a lot more

obesity because that part of the country has a much higher rate of obesity. And I could not believe the amount of people that were in scooters. Because there were two, there were two obese, the same at the Disneyland down in the, I saw a mother who was probably four, over 400 pounds, which is very, very big. She was in one of those scooters. Her maybe six-year-old daughter was sitting on her lap and her six-year-old daughter probably weighed a good 80, 90. Belly goes a big, it was, she was another obese kid.

And they both were driving in the scooter, so she'd sit on mom's lap and the little girl helped. Yeah, that would make me so much better. And the little girl had those like super big gulp, like one-liter coaks, you know what I'm saying? And she was just sucking on that while they're driving around on Disneyland.

And you know, I get it, okay, I get angry too because I'm like, hey, look what you're doing to your kid. But it's not like these people don't care about their kids. This is a serious issue. It's a serious mental issue that we're dealing with. And I don't, like I said, I don't think that they hate their kids. This is a serious issue, this is a serious mental issue that we're dealing with. And I don't, like I said, I don't think that they hate their kids, I don't think they don't love their kids. I just think that there's a level of unawareness that we simply do not, we're not even grasping. Unawareness or ignorance.

It's a mentality, it's ignorance. What I mean by unawareness is, you know, when you have a situation that you're dealing with, that's so painful or whatever or difficult, you bury it. You don't deal with it, it's just gone. You don't think about it. So in this situation, they're like food, eat it, taste good, eat it, do that, eat it.

And you know, just in touch upon the whole, you know, all these flavors and I wanna eat sweet and I wanna eat, you know, what's salty or whatever. You know, you ever see someone who's that addicted to food eat? They don't savor it. It's not like they're sitting there enjoying the taste. It is all about getting in as fast as possible. Fill this, give me this feeling of fullness,

which to me tells me it has less to do about the taste than, and more to do about the flavor. I pray that we talk about food, and it's fucking like, whoa. Yeah, but you know what you need something that really you want to savor and taste. That's how you enjoy food. Yeah, but like, they still have that, dude. Trust me, there's like spots that little drive like far just to get like this huge.

It's just like a keeps saying it's your drug thing. It's like you're ever seen someone who's on, it's just a different one and they, they want it like, they will take it right away. Alcoholics. For sure. You look at people who enjoy wine, they sip the wine, they enjoy alcoholics,

pound the shit at alcohol. They want a drink and get smashed. Yeah. And that's the whole search that's the thing. No, I definitely is on that level, dude. Yeah. Yeah, I think, I don't, I mean, that's, this is a situation that is encouraged

by the super abundance of easy food. And then now it's become a generational thing. So people eat this way, they learn from their parents, eat this way, and it becomes comfort food. I mean, think about comfort food. Think about food that you enjoy eating, but they don't really taste good, but you just like them because they associate

with something in your childhood. I can think of a few foods that I'll eat. If I ate a twinkie, like I never got twinkies, right? But rarely would my mom buy one for me and give it to me when I was a kid. And I must have had twinkies maybe 10 times of my entire life, but I associated them with my mom, given that it was a special thing,

and they taste so good, they taste like shit, but I enjoy them now, I think about it now, and it gives me this warm feeling of, you know, when mom would once in a great, great while, let me have one of these things, you know. Well, and that point, yeah, God, that's what you see parents like this, what they do with their kids is, they start treating like, oh, you did so good, let's go to McDonald's. Let's treat. see parents like this, what they do with their kids is they start treating like,

oh, you did so good, let's go to McDonald's. Oh, good job, son. Oh, let's go, here's some ice cream or make sure you go do that and then I'll give you ice cream. Everything is rewarded. Yes, every. Dude, this is how, and I remember like venting about this to you guys because I actually like chose

to take my son out of this soccer league into another soccer league this year because after every game, they had a free ice cream, and a free popsicle. And it's just like these kids were just mobbing this thing like maniacs. And it's like right before dinner too. So it was like somewhere around five, six o'clock

when they're done, you know. And then you gotta be the dick and stuff. And then just yeah, and then now we're in a spot where it's like, you when they're done, you know? And then you gotta be the dip consists. And then just, yeah, now we're in a spot where it's like, you can have, you know, like every now and then I let them have it, but they just would just be crazy. Well, the thing too, with terms of kids, is serving sizes.

Like you'll see, like, oh, I've actually never even thought of that before. Yeah, well dude, like my daughter will be like, hey, heard that about a banana before. I've actually never even thought of that before. Yeah. Well, dude, my daughter will be like, hey, can I have a cookie? And I'll give her a piece of a cookie. And I've had parents, I've been at birthday parties, right? And like the average cookie nowadays is not what the average cookie,

it's not a chips of hoi-kki. No, the average cookie now is like a 280 to 340-kcal. The average cookie is like the size of my, it's like the size of the palm on my hand, right? Triple stuff, three of us. Now, that's a big cookie for me. And I always think to myself, like I weigh 200 pounds, my daughter weighs, you know, what, 40 pounds,

or 30 pounds or whatever. She probably needs a tiny fraction of this. And I've done this before, I was at party and I gave my daughter a piece or my son a piece of a cookie and the parents are like, oh, come on, so, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, this cookie is the size of my hand, but it's literally the size of her face.

Would you eat a cookie, the size of your face, as an adult? Think about. They're like, yeah. Imagine an adult. Imagine that. Imagine an adult. Awesome.

Grabbing a cookie, the size of your face, and just mowing on this fucking cookie. I've done it. Once you put it in that, you know, once I painted that picture a little bit, then their faces were like, oh, yeah, I guess you're right. Yeah. We'll go to pinkberry or whatever,

really have the frozen yogurt. And I'll get them pinkberry or whatever, we'll get the frozen yogurt, and I'll get them the micro cup, and I'll tell the lady, fill it halfway. That's still a big fucking serving for a little kid. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? You've ever heard of a Pizzuki? Of course I have. Pizzuki.

Pizzuki, dude. It's a sex act. It's like, with a, it's like a pan. Of this like, fresh baked cookie. Okay, yes, yes, yes. Ice cream, oh, yes. Ice cream. Oh, they had those in Chicago. See Chicago great city.

Love that city. Oh my God, that food off the charts. Yeah. Like you're set up for obesity. You're set up for obesity. Yeah. Is it higher over there? It's probably higher.

It was pretty. It was probably a better state, huh? Cal if they're at least a little more active. California West, the most active sort of spot. Colorado, I think rings the best, but California depends on the area. If you go to like Silicon Valley apparently, San Jose is supposed to be.

Doug, can you Google that with the fittest state? I think Arizona is. No, it's not Colorado. Let's find out. Colorado is a lot of. I know you like to be right, so let's make you right. I have fucking guy. You got it.

You see him get all lit up cuz I debated oh here we go Need a win Adam. Yeah, dude. They're not in Asia, bro Adam. You need a win. Come on man. You need a win. Let's hope I hope you're right No, you don't secretly you You always want to be right. Don't even start with me. Of course. I'm just used to it. That's all you know this But you, you, you, you always want to be right. Don't even start with me. Of course. I'm just used to it. You know, this, this is,

I just keep waiting for it. I feel like a, it's keep waiting for it. This is the thing that, but this is what scares me about a procedure like this that's coming is, it prays on people like this. Right. Here we are trying to give this message where we're trying to help people with relationship food

and we're trying to move in the right direction with health and fitness and wellness. And then you get it somebody like this company that comes in and it gets FDA approval. And you know, it's very frustrating for us. Fucking a, it's frustrating man. Yeah, it's just going to upend everything. It's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's such a bad mentality to promote and reinforce. Like, that's exactly what it's doing.

It's not addressing the problem. It's trying to medicate it otherwise. This is like, it has all kinds of ties between, what we're dealing with with big pharma and everything else, like trying to treat all these quote unquote ailments. You know, like, oh, I have these aches and pains for this. And then we're, they're not actually, you know, mobilizing their joints properly. They're not moving properly. They're not exercising, you know, but they're just going to take pills to make themselves feel better because

of this pain that came out of nowhere, even though, you know, but that's, that's the frustration that I get when I see all these like things come around. Well, you know, Western medicine is a good job of treating symptoms and not a very good job of treating the root cause, which is why they do such a bad job with chronic, you know, chronic ailments. Yeah, but I mean,

I'll call right, it was five. Oh, what was number one? Vermont. Vermont, that list is five. Oh, what was number one Vermont? Vermont? That list is wrong. Dude Vermont. It's it. It's probably the only charm of the big, ever been Hawaii. Hawaii is number two. Number three was Montana. What list is this from what site Alaska? I don't think Montana gets the internet. That's wrong. It doesn't count. Why is it Colorado's five? It's just the fittest or the leanest or the healthiest?

The fittest. Because the government did this study and they listed Colorado. You're wrong, bro. You're wrong. Hey, listen. Where was Arizona? Is Arizona?

It wasn't above Colorado. It was back in the league. I can't claim I was right, but you were wrong. You know what? You ended up in two. Wait, you two, call me. Wait, you two, call me. Michelle Fassi was Colorado. It's Colorado. For sure, it's Colorado. Way too high. Way too high.

It's called right now. It's called right now. For sure it's called right now. I still beat you guys at basketball. Hey listen if you like Mind Pump, leave us a five start rating review on it. It was horse it wasn't basketball. And check it out on Instagram. I'm Mind Pump Radio.

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