Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 368: Front Shoulder Raises, Dealing with The Munchies, Mind Pump Disagreements & MORE

Episode Date: September 21, 2016

iTunes review winners & Kimera-Quah! In this episode of Quah, sponsored by Kimera Koffee (kimerakoffee.com, code "mindpump" for 10% off), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about how cannabis affects their diet plan and dealing with "munchies," why they never talk about front shoulder raises, if there are really flexible body types and strong body types and the one thing they can't agree on. Have Sal, Adam & Justin personally train you with a new video every day on our new YouTube channel, Mind Pump TV. Be sure to Subscribe for updates. Get MAPS Anabolic, MAPS Performance, MAPS Aesthetic and the Butt Builder Blueprint (The RGB Super Bundle) packaged together at a substantial DISCOUNT at www.mindpumpmedia.com. Please subscribe, rate and review this show! Each week our favorite reviewers are announced on the show and sent Mind Pump T-shirts! Have questions for Mind Pump? Each Monday on Instagram (@mindpumpradio) look for the QUAH post and input your question there. (Sal, Adam & Justin will answer as many questions as they can)

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there's only one place to go. Mind, pop, mind, pop, with your hosts. Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. There's something to be said about the creativity, sparking effects of altering your state of consciousness. Just changing your state of consciousness will have you looking at things a little bit differently. So what are they doing?

So over here in Silicon Valley, you got all these executives, what do they do? Microdose mushrooms and LSD. Do they? Yeah, dude, it's a thing, dude. It's a thing. They're lacking creativity.

I've heard you say that, but I actually don't, I don't know anybody personally. I asked the high level executive and amongst them, they do these sort of like retreats every now and then. Okay. You do retreats,

you know, quotes and they're in like a tent and a sweat lodge and all that. And I'm like, they have some drugs going on. Bro, you create, I mean, you know, the Silicon Valley is driven by creativity. They're gonna do everything they possibly can

to get, you know, to that place. Well, this new topic, like, they, I mean, they love that. But anything that can affect the brain and give them, you know, some kind of like advantage. Dude, it's like probably half the people at Burning Man are probably from the Bay Area. Well, the new tropics are, I mean, I, what, what would you say really started to get hot?

I mean, for me, I didn't know much about it till the last probably two years, maybe two, three years tops. And I, that's one of the reasons why I was so excited about Chi-Mar, I just think it's brilliant for them to be, uh, combining that and then to go the all natural rep. Cause I, you know, when we mess around with the synthetic stuff, how was it a big fan to you guys didn't like it, right? Cause I had try Pericitam we tried it all you guys try and your head and diarrhea right yeah, no way Wait, they gave you diarrhea to you're just had it just had it just messing I had some headaches from I had some No bleeding you know what it is so what happens what happens with the synthetic Neutropic is what you got a headache is tell me tell me tell me nerdy saline

This is what I had so a Neutropic is like tell me nerdy, Sal. This is what I got, hectic. So a Neutropic is like, Neutropic is like, Neutropic is like nitrous, right? It's like boosting your, your brains capabilities, but if your brains capability isn't that much, it's overloads. It overloads it. I see. No, that's actually, that's why it's not working. That's actually common side effect

with the synthetic Neutropic's headaches. A lot of people who don't like them will get a headache. Not absolutely. I luckily never get a headaches from them, but if one I've taken this synthetic stuff, you know, I like them, but then the effects start to wear off and I start to get negatives. Where I don't get that with the alpha GPC, the, you know, the, you know, acetylcholine, you know, the more natural nitropics, I don't get that build up that tolerance. Chimera to me has been like, whoa, it's amazing.

It's, hold on a second. Whoa. It's fucking amazing. Somebody's gonna make a ringtone out of that. Oh, please, please, imagine that you just go to, please somebody, somebody please turn it off. Take, I'm gonna order our listeners right now.

One of you, please take a singing clip of Adam And make a ringtone. Oh, I will use that You make it rich. I want 1% by the way No, I I love America I was just talking to somebody the other day and they were told me they're like, oh, yeah I don't really drink coffee because of the crash afterwards I'm like dude you have to try Chi Mara-Mara then because they have to drink it consistently tell people like drink it more than once because the effects get better

After drinking like four or five times. I know what to say right away I know you said that because you you talked to somebody on our forum who didn't feel like this And oh come on you're not gonna it's coffee still You're not gonna all of a sudden feel this like if you're trying to compare it to cocaine or steroids or something crazy that you They're annoying that you have to describe because like supplements like this is all they do they try and preach this immediate effect Yeah, you know, it's like like people feel like it's irrelevant unless they feel something immediately. It's why pre workouts are so popular It's like dude. It's just loaded full stimulants dude all that shit that you're taking is there's nothing magical happening You're just sweating your dick

I'm gonna cut everything else like nine hundred milligrams and hot nice in with fucking 900 good milligrams of caffeine You know throwing it in a fedra and all these other I'll do jumping jacks you know what they do. They're like okay Let's take four hundred milligrams of grams of caffeine and put it in a very tasty powder And then like sprinkle a bunch of shit that we can put on the way up. I feel like they just took tang, you know what I mean? And then just put some shit in it. God damn it.

Right? Why don't we do a vid? What happened to tang? Oh, I have a tang. Which kind of thing? Wait, you guys talking about the drink or the... Tang, or... I thought it was a pootie tang.

They were gonna have a tang. Not pootie tang, just tang. No, no, no, no. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, Did you say pootie tang? I did. I thought it was pootie tang. Well, one was a movie and Poon Tang is another thing

Oh, okay. Yeah, whatever happened to Tang. I just still a company extra knots. It's like it's like a sugary drink That's pertain to be orange juice. I feel like Doug should know this it could be cool. I never got into what's the difference between Tang and Kool-Aid Yeah, well one of those orange I want to ask you this Doug will know this Doug. Do you remember oval team? I'm orange. I want to, let me ask you this, Doug will know this. Doug, do you remember oval team? I'm fine with that. I remember oval team. I recall it, yeah. Doug, do you remember oval team? You guys remember oval team?

It's a dick car. Do you guys remember oval team? Uh huh. It's like the original supplement powder. You know, give it to your kids. It's a taco. It's got oval team. It's got chocolate milk.

It's got vitamins and minerals in it. Yeah. It's like malt chocolate milk. Tang was used early. NASA manned space flights in 1962 and John Glenn conducted eating experiments in orbit. Tang was selected for the menu. It was used during some...

Tang, good to think, Tang. Tang, Tang, Tang. 2013 Buzz Aldrin said Tang sucks. Tang. I don't know what it is. Buzz Aldrin said that. You know what? He's such a...

I want a t-shirt with that. Buzz Aldrin is a fucking great asshole. I mean, in the greatest way, I guess he's like, it is. He was approached by some fucking dude that's like, I don't remember, it's like, either it's either like the people who think the earth is still flat or someone who says that there's aliens in the moon or whatever,

but he called Buzz Aldrin like a liar, like you been lying in any fucking punch them. Oh yeah, wasn't that, no, it was because they thought that they filmed the whole thing to the moon, right? That's why he punched him. I don't know, I don't know. Buzz Alderman like a liar like you been lying in any fucking punch them. Oh yeah, wasn't that no It was because they they thought that they filmed the whole Oh, yeah, they faked it right they faked it. That's why he punched him. I remember that speaking of which they're on Facebook Okay, I should find a name of this shit my god. I was on this this page on the earth community. Did you guys see that?

No, but I've heard like this is the talk of the town like all these oh here we go It's the emerging no no this flat against Coming pop it's the flat ready for this okay, because we're trying to grow our social media We're trying to grow our social media. We're trying to get big right how about this the flat earth society These are people who believe in that the earth is flat. Yeah, I believe in flat earth when I see flat titty 92,000 tittys aren't flat. 92,000 people like this. Sometimes.

And you read some of the shit and it's like these, and they create these like, they're trying to create like evidence why the earth is flat and why it's been this huge coverup this entire time. And I'm like, don't you see the fucking moon? So the photo. So that's around, what do you think this is?

I know. The photos that we heard from those are all manipulators. Bro, it's Photoshop. It's all fake, it's all. They don't believe in satellites. Apparently, that's right. I mean, they believe that like the planes like fly and take images and then like come back down on the end.

Bro, I'm telling you right now. That's fascinating. I'm telling you right now, if you go on to start from me to borrow the flat earth society, they will. Can we get a flat globe? They do all these posts. Can you do that? Is that possible? No, they think it's a pizza.

That's right. I mean, it's like this flat pizza. But they make the case for it, like they try to find evidence for it. I feel like we could market and sell a lot of stuff to these people. Yeah. You know what? It's true.

That's a good idea, I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. Well, instead of making fun of them, why don't we market and sell something to them? Shit to them 92,000 people believe this yeah Yeah, wow. Yeah, and there was a post. I think that was a name of what is that how does that quote? Oh, sometimes the majority the majority is always right sometimes a majority just means all the fools are on the same side Oh, come on man at one point a majority of people supported the crazy shit slavery and all kinds of shit

Doesn't mean nothing, But anyway, flat earth society, whole, hilarious. I don't know how we went from tang to that. I wanted to find more out about tang and you went to flat earth. Tang, tang, tang, tang. So supposedly tang is still being sold. I didn't think it was being sold. In 85, they introduced Aspertain to it and it's still going and it has something to do with the creator of Jello and Pop Rocks and Cool Whip.

No, no shit. Oh, yummy. I haven't seen no tang. Did you guys ever drink tang? creator of Jello and pop rocks and cool whip. No shit. Oh yummy. I haven't seen no tango. Did you guys ever drink tango? I did, yeah. No, I love tango as a kid. I wasn't a sunny delight kid.

Oh, more of a, oh yeah. That's yeah, you're either in sunny delight camp or sunny decant. I'm sorry. Pussy. You like the purple stuff, too. We used to beat those kids up. So I was the purple stuff kid. What did I drink?

I didn't know how to get any of that shit when I was a kid. My mom didn't buy that kind of stuff. Although my friends were pretty- Were your parents really healthy about that? Were they good? No, they're just a tie-in. They're just food snobs. Most of the tie-ins are,

I'm just super, that's a sweeping generalization. But they're kind of like, we're kind of like food snobs. Like we like good food and that's just shit. So I'm actually, I'm really happy. They give me wine. I'm interested in wine to wine I'm interested in your guys as cupboards as a seven to twelve year old go real quick. Oh my god Tell me your cupboard. Here's the worst shit that I would chicken and biscuit seven about that Yeah, chicken biscuit or cheese it or she's it's we're bad that would be easy cheese

Like cheesy you pour out of a can. Yeah, cheese wizz. The hell's wrong with us. That's gross. That is so gross. On chicken in the biscuit. On chicken in the biscuit crackers. Yeah, yeah. That's that.

Thank you, yeah. That was a money sandwich. That's fucking gross. You know what I used to do? Take like Doritos and then like add a shit ton of cheese and make nachos out of already like nacho-fied Doritos. You know what kids do now? Kids buy the fire Cheetos. Oh, now? Kids buy the fire cheetos.

Kids buy the fire cheetos now in the bag. They open the bag and then they pour fucking nacho cheese in the bag with the fire cheetos and then they scoop it and eat it out like that. And some even like add chili and do all kinds of crazy and they just eat it straight out of the bag of that. You just like that process. Not to layer cheese.

You know, they'll veal Vita cheese and then you dump a bunch of other shit in there and you eat it straight Out of the bad like that you imagine the diary Oh, wow, you know you could you imagine you are just altering your gut flora Bro, you're blowing fire out of the an aspirating it. Yeah, there's no way you could 100% It's why I have psoriasis they didn't came up. I know 25 years old is bad. Everything was processed Let's just say and you know it was just off what about hot pockets? Oh Everything was processed, let's just say, and it was just awful.

What about hot pockets? Oh, yeah, yeah. Bago bites. All right, you guys in the middle. No, I never did bagel bites, but hot pockets, I'd eat to like a million of them because. And the frozen burritos. Well, you know why?

Because I started lifting weights at a young age, so I'd look at the nutrition facts, and be like, oh, 15 grams of protein. These are healthy. Only three of these in half. Yes. All the protein I need. And so I'd eat three frozen burritos in a row in between lunch

and dinner. Perfect. Yep. Crazy. There we go, bites. Uh-oh. Oh, shit. Uh-oh.

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It's the motherfucking quag- The eagle has landed! Qui-quag... Alright, our first The eagle has landed. Quikwa. Quikwa. All right, our first question is from K. Federale. Hey. How does cannabis affect your diet plan? I was, I was, I was, I was, I was like, fat elbow in it.

I tried to do a more manly version of my voice, but this is, I'm like, all right. This is, this is, this is, this is, so K is a skin. Cermet. K. Federale is asking. Sorry, go is asking how does cannabis affect your diet plan and how do you deal with the munchies cannabis makes my diet plan awesome cannabis makes question yeah cannabis makes everything better I think actually it makes you eat orange

Hostess cupcakes. Well, so apparently otherwise nobody would eat that shit. I'm just saying. All right We're fucking around, but it's really a good question because it is different strains actually will promote this So if I don't know where you get your cannabis from but start paying attention to the strains that you that you smoke or However, you're doing this Pay attention to how you feel from it because not all of them technically give you the munchies. Munchies, I find I get the munchies when I consume like a sativa, when I have a heavy indica, it doesn't make me feel that way, but that's me.

So that's how my body is affected by it and different. And I know what strains will do that. So for me, you pay an attention to that in knowing when I can smoke certain strains. So, and for us, or I think I can speak for me, you pay an attention to that and knowing when I can smoke certain strains. So, and for us, or I think I can speak for us, because Sal, I'm pretty sure, is the same way as I am, is we don't really smoke until the night time before I'm ready to go to bed. That's normally about the time that I probably the earliest you'll ever catch me taking

cannabis in is probably six or seven o'clock at night, which means I got home early that day. And I'm putting my feet up watching, you know, a movie or something, and then I'm melting clock at night, which means I got home early that day. And I'm putting my feet up watching, you know, a movie or something, and then I, my melton the couch. Well, when I smoked the one with angel dust laced on it, I like to have pop tarts. Too busy to say no.

Get out of here. You know, here's the thing. Here's the interesting thing. There's been some studies now published showing the relationship between cannabis use and obesity and insulin levels. And what they found is that regular cannabis consumers, and by the way, this is a few studies now that have shown this, have fasting insulin levels 16% lower than non-consumers.

They have found that they also had 17% lower insulin resistant levels and lower average waste circumferences. In fact, major pharmaceutical company or cannabis pharmaceutical company, GW pharmaceutical, is actually studying cannabinoids for the treatment of prediabetes and diabetes. And mark my words, we will see a fat loss supplement or drug that uses cannabinoids, phyto cannabinoids once foundyto cannabinoids, one's found in cannabis to assist in the process. So cannabinoids affect many systems in the body and the liver is one of them.

And there is this relationship that we're not quite sure how it works, but it does demonstrate in studies that people are leaner when they use cannabis on a regular basis. Now, those you listening right now, don't go grab joints and start smoking just because of that. There should be, I think you should use it for the right reasons, but I think that the science is gonna start figuring out ways to use these cannabinoids to help people lose body fat.

So the whole smoking cannabis makes you fatter because you eat more type of deal. It doesn't add up at all. The studies actually show the opposite. Now, the other thing too is the more consistently you use cannabis or the longer you use cannabis, the munchies kind of go away. I don't really get the munchies. I don't know about you guys, but I really don't get it.

Well, we also don't, I'm glad you put this up here because we were talking to our buddy Danny who was just here. You asked him, what does everybody say about us? A lot of his buddies and other trainers and the people that he works with listens to mind pump, you know, and we joke about drugs on here all the time. So do they all think we're a bunch of druggies? And do we do all this stuff? And he says, no, no, no, no, I don't think you guys come off

that way. So I'm glad we're bringing this up so we can elaborate a little bit on that. Like, none of us are smoking weed all day long. So it's like, we were like, that's like a part of our routine. Like I get up and I wake and break and then I go to work And I do shit and then I'm like worried about the munchies like I'm not none of us are smoking that much I think somebody who's who's battling munchies from smoking weed sounds like you're smoking too much weed

And my recommendation would to be and I know a pot head's not gonna like to hear that but you know Pull back, you know pull back on if it's starting, if my weed consumption is affecting my goals, then it's getting in the way. And to me, it's something that is not that important. You know, it's not that important for me to have it. I use it for relaxing, for creativity, for going to sleep. I have a handful of things.

And then sometimes I do, I want to be loose and laugh and have a good time in a movie. Sure, I'll fucking use it for that, but it's occasional. It's like anything else that we talk about, we recommend intermittently adding things like that into your lifestyle. If it's something that's into your routine so often that it's affecting your health goals, to me, that means it needs to take a seat.

What they're finding, the science with cannabis and cannabinoids and the endocannabinoids that our body produces and how phyto cannabinoids interact with all those, things that what they're finding is that cannabinoids are modulators in the body. They bring balance, and I know that sounds real hokey and you know new age, but the reality is if you are a cancer patient wasting away cannabis will help you gain weight If you're somebody that is really overweight they're finding that cannabis use might help you with insulin levels and help your body balance itself out It can help with a lot of different things mainly because of the way it You know the receptors that attaches to and how those receptors are found throughout the whole body.

But they're fine. They've demonstrated now that cannabinoids communicate between synapses in the brain from the post-synapse to the presynapse. Most chemical signals go from pre-to-post synapse. That's why one's called presynapse and one called post-synapse. Cannabinoids do the opposite. They go from bottom to top. In other words, it's feedback.

It's a feedback mechanism helping modulate the pre-synapse and telling it what to send out more of and what to send out less of. It's got this balancing effect where if you have a weak immune system, like if you have HIV, it helps strengthen it. If you have autoimmune diseases, which is an overactive immune system, it helps to press it. There's a lot of interesting science coming out with cannabinoids and the future, I predict,

we are gonna see some major breakthroughs in medicine because of cannabinoids. Oh, stop it. Absolutely. Stop it. Major breakthroughs. 100%. I disagree.

I don't think we're gonna see. I don't think we're gonna see major breakthroughs. 100% I don't I disagree. I don't think we're gonna say. I don't think we're gonna see major breakthroughs. I think I was pharmaceutical companies get a hold of it. Yeah, no, I'll tell you why. Okay, I'll be a lot more steady. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, okay. If it's, if it's impeding in other things, if it's, if it's causing you to go eat a bag of fucking candy, then that's all moot. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter that it's got neuroprotected. It doesn't matter that it has all these other benefits to it. If it's causing other things in your lifestyle, which is why I wanted to

stop you there because yes, we're, we're elaborating all the science and all the positive things that about cannabis, which we're all fans of. These, these are studies on, you get to understand, there's studies on cannabinoids and how they affect the body. What you're talking about is marijuana and TCC in particular. Pharmaceutical companies are looking to use cannabinoids or design cannabinoids. Well, that's also, I know.

That have the positive effects that don't have the same. I know what you're saying. The question was related to cannabis and you took a right turn to CBD. Oh, you know. Well, I took to other cannabinoids, but yeah, CBD being one of them.

Yeah, well, I mean, you took a right on there, and that's, now we sound like a supplement company. You know, we sound like a supplement company who's promoting something, because there is some science that's connected to the benefits of caffeine or benefits to nicene, or benefits of something like that. Yes, you can extrapolate some of that stuff and show that the major breakthroughs

is it going to change people's lives? No. Is it going, are we going to find out that cannabis is the holy grail that you start smoking in? Now you're going to live forever where you're never going to get cancer because you smoke. No, I don't think that. I think that more studies are going to come about and I think more studies are going to show that, yes, it is a lot better than what we thought it was. Yes, it's stupid that we've been, it's a been a schedule

one drug for as long as it's been. That's, I think that will be the breakthrough. I don't think it's gonna be this miraculous thing that now it's gonna take over pre-workouts, it's gonna be the, you know, it's not gonna be like that. I don't think that at all. I think that more people are just gonna be accepted that it's not this poisonous bad thing that everybody thought it was sure I agree with that, but I'll I'm talking about cannabinoids science and I think we're gonna see new new drugs that are going to be used in conjunction when a Replace of hemotherapy for some people I think we're gonna see less Opia use because there's gonna be cannabinoids that are gonna be well

That's where I see the best you know in combat to a lot of the you know all the differentabinoids that are going to be. Well, that's where I see the best, you know, in combat to a lot of the, you know, all the different like pain medications that are out there, especially like if we can get this, this alternative, you know, in replacement of that, it's going to do a lot. The problem with the problem with that is this is that, you know, even though you just can't compare. So, and that's a great one, is pain. And you can't compare a four Norcos to a joint. And even though the marijuana is the better route for you as far as health, and to give you relief from that, for sure,

that the way the Norcos is going to make somebody feel, it's gonna win, no matter how bad it is for us, it's unfortunate, that's who we are. That's our society, it's going to win no matter how bad it is for us. It's unfortunate that that's who that's who we are. That's our society. It's unfortunate. It's a different feeling for sure. It's a different mechanism. It is.

And it's and it's and it's going back to what you know, modern or Western medicine is all about is addressing the the the pain, right? Or whatever you got going on versus how it caught in the root. Yeah, besides were instead of finding the root cause, instead, and so you can't, they're always gonna compare that. And that Western medicine kicks ass on that part. But where it lacks is what's overall healthy.

And I know you're optimistic talking like that and I'm with you and I agree with you. Like I wanna see all this stuff. It's kinda like saying that functional medicine is gonna take over Western medicine. Exactly, and I don't see where it gonna to see all this stuff. It's kind of like saying that functional medicine is going to take over Western medicine. Exactly, and I don't see we're going to happen. But at the same time, it's what we want to have. Well, okay, let me make my case a little bit better.

Okay, so the endocannabinoid system was not that long discovered and we're now starting to learn more and more about it. It's an area of major research, an area that we didn't even know existed 30 or 40 years ago. It's a receptor on cells, known as a G-protein coupled receptor, which is a very, these are receptors they tend to target with medicine because it tells the cell what to do on the inside. And cannabinoid receptors are some of the most abundant throughout the body.

Within that, just looking at that, most abundant, one of the most abundant throughout the body. Within that, just looking at that, most abundant, one of the most abundant receptors in the body, the receptor we like to target with medicine, it's not, it's basically not toxic to activate these receptors in most ways. There's gonna be something they're gonna find because it's a different way to treat. That's all I mean, it's a different pathway.

There's something new, and whenever we find something new or a different pathway to treat things, we have new breakthroughs. And if we came out with a medicine that was able to reduce the amount of chemotherapy someone can use, that would be a breakthrough. And the cancer science coming out with cannabinoids is freaking mind blowing. Even the American government's, cancer.gov website now has a segment or a section that talks about how cannabinoids have been found in studies to kill cancer cells. And not only to kill cancer cells in vitro, but in vivo and animals and in human studies. So it's, I think there's going to be some breakthroughs in a pharmaceutical companies are starting to invest money in it. And you know where the money goes, you tend to see some shit happen.

It'll be interesting. Major is a strong word. Do I think we'll have continued to have breakthroughs? Absolutely. In my fan, absolutely, but not at the expense of what it could be causing. If you know, you start to promote something and you say like that too much, then everybody, what do we always do? What do we do as Americans when something good happens?

What do we do over do the shit? Everything, right? It doesn't fucking matter. The most condensed version ever. Exactly, it doesn't matter if it's fitness, if it's cardio, if it's weight training, if it's a supplement, if it's a macro nutrient, we find out new breakthroughs,

if breakthroughs come out, that protein is the holy grail for Billy Muscle, what do we do? Before you know it, we're taking three grams of protein per pound of body away. If we find out that fats the holy grail for Billy Muscle. What do we do? We start before you know it We're taking three grams of protein per pound of body away If we find out that fats the holy grail then what do we start doing? We're taking fucking ungodly amounts of fat. That's just how we are as a fucking nation And I don't want to be somebody who or I don't want us to represent just because we're pro cannabis That we come out and say a bunch of statements like that and then all of a sudden what does everybody do come a bunch of fucking potheads

And they're sitting around. No, it'll be a tool. You know, it'll be something that will be helpful in the right circumstance. You know, it's not gonna be the holy grail. And I think that's the point you're trying to make. Of course, that's, you know, that's important to make. Very responsible thing to say.

So, anyway, which is weird to Adam said. Yeah, come on, man. What the fuck just happened? Yeah, next up, Ricky Rondo Neff. Come on man. What the fuck just happened? Yeah, next up. Do do do a sexy topic. You can do presses are superior. Well, not only the superior, but I mean, you can do front raises if you really want to target the front delts, you really want to add volume to them. You want to. Well, we're still talking about aesthetics. Yeah. I mean, like, let's talk about spiral movements. But like every, how often are you doing that?

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The more challenging it is for you to move weight, the harder it is going to be to build strength and build muscle in that area. So, you know, a front raise, can you do them? Sure. I mean, you do them. Yeah, why not? But if you're doing them and you're not pressing, you're missing out. Yeah.

You're missing out on the... It's like doing lay extensions without squatting. Exactly. It's exactly what is. It's another long lever, right? You're doing a long lever exercise that's far from the body. Just isolating mentality in general. It kind of feeds into that. Like isolating, I'm trying to get this very specific part of my muscle and like just this

one little range of motion. Whereas I'm not really getting the full impact of doing what, you know, a shoulder press. You wanna know when I do front raises? Trigger days. Trigger days and focus days. If I ever do a front raise at all, it's gonna be on a trigger day with that.

I'm just trying to get a pump. You know what I'm saying? I'm not trying to fucking smash my central nervousness. I'm not trying to press super weight. I'm gonna get a pump on my delt. I'm gonna do some front and side raises and get a nice pump and call it a day with my triggers. Well, I'll tell you what, number one,

from an aesthetic standpoint, it's rare that I see someone and I think to myself, they have underdeveloped front delts compared to the rest of their body. It's very rare. Like bodybuilders even, or amateur bodybuilders, it's usually the posterior deltoid, or even the side, deltoid or even the side deltoid.

Excellent point. Deltoid, but the front deltoid, very rare, well you'll see that be underdeveloped because it's so heavily used with presses. Number two, if you're going to do a front raise and you want to really make it a functional exercise, one of the best things you could do is lay on a high incline bench where you're laying down on your chest and do a front raise to where you bring the bar all the way up to your head or dumbbells up to your head. So you get that scapular retraction, you get that stability at the top.

That's where I see a lot of benefit from doing a front raise, but the standard standup tall front raise, not quite as much. I mean, can you guys picture what I'm talking about? Well, no, let's, let's, I do like a more of a scapching. Doug, can you, Doug, can you write that down for us to do that as a YouTube today, because this is a great point. Let's talk about front raises. Like the best way to do a front raise.

Well, yeah, let's exactly, best way to do a front raise, why we don't do a front raise. So what Sal is explaining, and we talked about this before, and on a mind pump TV is majority of people have somewhat of upper cross syndrome, and most people have excessively. So they're already rounded and they're already for it. They're already pushing a lot with their deltoids. Doing a front raise is only going to

make that worse. It contributes to the problem. It just can. Yes. It contributes to a problem that's already there. It's very difficult to do a front raise. If you can picture the dumbbell all the way out in front of you to where it's perpendicular to the floor now and it's out like eye level, you know, imagine your posture at that moment, what's going on. You're already probably forward and then that direct stress is normally on that low back and you're trying to counter by arching. So it's just not a very ideal move to teach people. Can you do it? Yes. Do I think there's at least five or more exercises superior to it?

Absolutely. Well, that's why we started with showing like rear delt and like these other like the shoulder retracting type exercises because it is like an epidemic. This is a subacross syndrome in this forward position and protection of the shoulder. So, you know, we want to address the body as a, you know, optimal posture first. So we want to get our place ourselves in proper position and then we can start tweaking around with

like the development of what we want to get out of the shoulders from there. That's an excellent quote. I'm glad I don't know who picked this. It was a good question because we get in this debate a little bit. And this is where, you know, there's some professionals on Instagram. Like I've mentioned the hypertrophy coach before, I think his Instagram is pretty solid. He does a lot of really good movements.

He's definitely a biomechanic specialist, muscle PhD guy, another guy that does post like this. Now, the difference between those guys and us, I would say is this is because I don't have anything to disagree with them as what they're teaching is I've taught thousands and thousands of clients and the moves that we teach people and we tell people, we're trying to think of a majority of the population. So I'm already envisioning the people that are listening or watching this podcast or watching our YouTube channel. And what are the majority of them probably suffering from or dealing with? And how can I best help them teaching them some isolated movement that's super tricky and cool to target a very small muscle that has a very small responsibility in the body.

To me, it may be sexy for Instagram, but it's not what's going to benefit that person. So we try, we try and help people with the big things that are going to help them. And then we would get to something like that. I would, of course, people, I could teach somebody a front raise and we have before it's just when you talk about the things that are really going to benefit somebody, it's not up there, you know? Do your presses. Next question is from zero, zero silk drop. Oh, she's on our forum. Are there really flexible body types and strong body types? Oh, that's so there's more of the question, you know, like, like people who just

naturally are just super flexible, but have a tough time getting strong. And people who are really strong naturally or get strong easily, naturally, but have a tough time getting flexible. And the answer to this question is yes, absolutely. Do you think it's a inverse relationship? Yeah, I do. I'll tell you why. Yeah, let's hear this.

I'm gonna give you some. I'm gonna give you a couple. Let me ask you guys a question as trainer. You guys have trained people for a long time. You ever get those clients that are super hyper flexible and can move in any direction, and you get them to hold a dumbbell above their head or do an exercise and it's like Gum be out a little bit. There's no stability. Yeah, they got nothing. There's no stability

And then there's that one older guy that is just fucking solid a shit But he says tight is a two by four. You can't even push his leg back But he's strong, but he's got tension and strength, right? I think it's a central nervous system thing I I a hundred percent and more and more and more science is demonstrating that flexibility and strength have much more to do with the central nervous system than they do with the muscles. Because a central nervous system that's kind of lacks is going to allow muscles to stretch and be manipulated.

And one that's kind of active all the time is going to maybe make you a little tight. And in fact, there's some studies that I'm shown manipulated and one that's kind of active all the time is going to maybe make you a little tight. And in fact, there's some studies that I'm shown that sprinters who were a little tight were faster than sprinters who were much looser. Now, that doesn't mean you shouldn't get more flexible and work on your flexibility. It just means that there's that relationship that's going on. And I'll give you another example.

If you want to take a population of people who central nervous systems are developing, who aren't firing with good tension properly. As a result, they're very flexible and movable. Look at babies and toddlers. Babies and toddlers central nervous systems are still teaching their sense. They can, they'll grow up to be tight ass adults, but as babies, they'll put their foot in their mouth and do a kinds of weird shit because their bodies are really malleable

because that CNS hasn't really developed that tension. And they're developing all these governings that they're putting in place as far as like, if I'm gonna be in this position, I'm gonna need to have this reserve here to be able to support me and then press me back into this position. So yeah, I could see that from,

so how much of that that you think is a genetic predisposition or is it something learned as you go along? Both, nurture nature. I don't know. I would argue more, I would argue more nurture than nature because I think we all are pretty hyper mobile with the way we're born, right? Very few people, at least I don't know any babies that don't have that crazy flexibility like that. So we all are going out stretching babies. We miss your baby. Oh, yeah, that's good. So we all at one point were there. So I think it's more of over time the neurological patterns that we've created and it's just gotten worse over time and think when you talk about the extremes of both

those people, either hyper, you're either super hyper mobile or you're super super strong because those people are extremes of their category, one of, one's going to give, right? So if you're a little, a lot of times you could see the parent, you know, you could see a lot of the same traits with the kid like growing up, but then again, it could be just the patterns that they, they model to them and the lifestyle that they hit their rounds. That's what I'm saying. Like, I think there's, there's got to be, there's saying. I think there's a strong, there's a bone too. Yeah, there is because I've been,

then you look at someone like Juigi, which to me that's, I mean, that's a genetic anomaly, right? You look at someone like Juigi who is trained to 250 pounds of muscle and hypermobile. I've never felt like, here's the thing. So we've all heard the anecdote, oh, if you lift weights, you get tight. I think there's some small truth to that because as I'm strengthening my central nervous

system to fire harder and get more tension, I may also strengthen its governing signal for lengthening that muscle. And so this is why it's important when you lift weights, you lift weights with full ranges of motion. You aim for full ranges of motion, so you get stronger within these new ranges of motion. Otherwise, you may in fact get tight, in fact, pre-determining your ranges. Yes, and I've trained athletes that were highly flexible gymnasts or whatever who stopped stretching while we were lifting weights or continued stretching, but not as much.

They all get tighter, part of it's because they didn't stretch as much. But a lot of it's because they lifted weights and they didn't lift within those ranges of motion that they normally work in. And so they lost some of that flexibility because the CNS started to fire a little harder. Look, you could give someone a muscle relaxer and they're instantly more flexible. Muscles did not get longer.

And in the 30 minutes it takes for the muscle relaxer to take it. Well, it's important the body does this, though. It protects you, right? Like if you're not, if you're not supported, if you haven't done that, that range of motion, and then all of a sudden you're putting load on it immediately, like your body needs to tense up to support itself and support the joint. And so like that, that is why like range of motion, like we're always stressing that so

much, because your abilities are going to increase. Yeah, we always think of stretching as making, like we think of stressing that so much because your abilities are gonna increase. Yeah, we always think of stretching as making, like we think of muscles like rubber bands, and if you just stretch it and stretch it and warm it up, it gets looser and looser, and that's mostly untrue, it's really the CNS, it's your central nervous system as such relaxes, I could take anybody, I don't care how tight you are,

you can be the tightest fucking person in the world, and I can stretch you for an hour, and I will achieve a greater level of flexibility within that hour with you. I didn't lengthen your muscle in that hour. All I did was get your CNS to kind of calm down a little bit, and there's techniques that help you do that, and you know, but it really has to do with that.

And so I think some people just have these really lacks CNS, and it's funny because you'll get, I'm sure you guys have gotten these clients that are super Lucy Goosey and to get them to like fire hard with like a heavy deadlift is so fucking hard to Like they they can't summon the that that instant strain no and that's a whole way to train and that's why this is so enlightening because like if you think about yoga Like it's the practice of really trying to calm down and like, you know, let's slow your heart rate down and thank you and relax. And like that's a huge component because you need to calm

that system down that everything's gonna be okay. Damn, that's a great point. In this range of motion. That's a great point because you think of yoga and the mood that they try to put you in to get you better at yoga is relax, breathe, meditate. When you're lifting weights, if you want loud music, rock and roll, pissed off, slap me in the face, go lift.

I'm trying to get my CNS to fire hard, whereas the other one I'm trying to get my CNS to relax. So Doug write this down also, another thing that I want to do on Mind Pump TV. This reminds me, I was just explaining to a couple ladies that I was explaining to them that they had more range of motion and flexibility than they think they're it's more of a neurological disconnect and I have a little test where I lay them on their backs and then I have them take take their knees

up into their all the way up as high as they possibly can towards their shoulders and you pick out their feet over your shoulders and wheelbarrow. Yeah, totally. So it's a great way to show people that they actually have the flexibility and joint mobility to get into a very deep squat. They just don't have the neurological connection anymore. So I'll show you and it also is a great way to show people what their squat stance should look like. So this could be a double whammy to help you. So write that down and I'll make sure we'll go over that mine pump. Wham me. We're me. I've got it. All right. Thomas Poucher is asking, what's the one thing you guys don't agree on

besides cannabis in its future? I know we've already, I feel like there's, we always disagree on stuff right now. You know what? Here's a thing. So we agree a lot of the time. Obviously on things, but here's, I think here's why. And this is going to sound real. I'm going to sound like a dick of the time, obviously on things. But here's, I think here's why, and this is gonna sound real, I'm gonna sound like a dick. You know, at the end of the day when you're looking for the answer to things, eventually the goal is to reach something

that is closer and closer to the truth. And if you have three people who are researching, you know, trying to find the solution to the equation one plus one, they will all, if they all eventually find the truth, they'll all come up with the same answer. It doesn't necessarily mean, it's not because they agree with each other,

it's because the answer is two. You might have a different method or process or whatever, but they're all trying to achieve that number. Right, and at the end of the day, the answer is two. And so a lot of times we agree with things because we've all reached the same conclusion through our experience and through our education That there are certain

Truths when it comes to fitness and nutrition So for the most part I'd say we agree. I mean we disagree on like well even when kind of minor things I guess even when we disagree like there's a lot of times where there's stuff that we disagree on and maybe doesn't even get to air or not But you know, let's say I disagree with Sal on something. It's not because like it's I'm stuck on disagree with him. It's at that moment. And then when he presents his argument, a lot of times I'll be like fuck broke. I didn't consider it. Yeah. I've never thought it. And I said, right? Perfect example that I think is when Adam was talking about really like fine tuning and tracking everything to its meticulous degree

and how important that is. And me just listening and even Sal interjecting how we kind of do it more intuitively is great, but that's at a different level. So if you start out, it is so important. That was such a good point to you do have to focus on that. You have to be educated in the process from the very beginning. So it's like just considering these things from somebody from a different level or just from a different perspective is important.

Yeah, I say, I have a couple examples. I'll use for myself first a couple examples of where I disagreed. Not like a big disagreement, but I kind of had different ideas. And then I was influenced to kind of moving that direction. Now we agree. One of them is on mobility type training and how to inject it into routines. And the disagreement was that I felt like I would have to trade and be okay with, which is fine.

Trading muscle size, strength and aesthetics for increased mobility when training form mobility. And Justin was like the mobility king and he was always hammering at home. And in my mind, I was always like, yeah, I need to work on that. It's good for me, but I know when I do, I'm gonna lose some of my gains

and I'm gonna have to deal with that and that's fine. And then Adam watching watching Adam go through it and noticing that not only did he not lose gains, he actually gained gains and performance, it really took me to the level of really agreeing with Justin and Adam both on that level. Like okay, increasing my mobility and adding mobility work, not only did it take away from my size and strength

and my max lift, it contributed to them right away. It wasn't something I had to, you know, I had to consider and think to myself like, okay, I'm gonna get a little stronger again later on, but for now I'm just working on it. No, it worked right away So that was that's one thing that I could see and then on the flip side, you know, when we all met and that we started mind-pump And I would talk about things like food intolerances and gluten and gut health, it was relatively foreign to both of you. And there was a little bit of disagreement.

It was almost like, well, that's not as important as calories and then little by little, watching you guys start to piece those things together and start to do them. And it wasn't necessarily that you disagreed, it was just something you hadn't really considered the same way. And then seeing your experience,

like Justin's talking about how all of a sudden his acid reflux now, he figured out how to control it without drugs and, you know, an atom with his psoriasis. And well, these things really influenced my skin and I didn't even consider that. And so I think at the end of the day, you know, especially if you're open-minded and you try as hard as possible to be objective, you're going to disagree with people,

but if you keep an open mind and kind of always try to move towards the truth and be open to being wrong, that's a big one, right? I'm gonna be open to being wrong. Then the truth is the same regardless of who you are. You're gonna come to the same conclusion. Zach Bitter just said it, right? We just did an episode recently with Zach Bitter,

the ultra marathon runner, and I thought he said it really well when he talked about just a lot of people just are unaware of the throwing away right now. And we're the same. I mean, I remember when Sal first went ketogenic, and you know, one time I was like, I was like, fuck that dude.

I mean, I eat 400 to 600 grams of carbs. Why the hell would I wanna to go the other way? That doesn't sound appealing at all. Even if you can sit here and rattle off all the science that's coming out right now to support healthy fats, and I was like, it didn't matter to me because I enjoyed the way I've already proven I can get on stage and be 2% body fat.

Look awesome, eating tons of carbohydrates. So why would I even consider that? But then when I made the switch, I said, we know it and I remember listening to that episode and listening to myself talking to you know, what an asshole, right? And I'm like, this here we preach all about being open minded and stuff. So, you know, that's on right away, challenged myself in that area. So I said, okay, I'm going to go this direction. And it completely opened my eyes and it changed my relationship with food. And that's, I mean, here I am 35 years old, been a trainer for a long time,

already proven that I can compete at the highest level, eating a certain way. So I wasn't even unaware that I could be doing it even better than I already was. So, you know, you could say that was something that I disagreed with him at first, but then once it, you know what I'm saying? So a lot of, I think any of our disagreement

back and forth is never like a stance where sour, juic or Justin are in one camp about something and I'm in another camp. I mean, it's obvious Justin cares more about sports performance and that he appeals to that more. Sal is all about kind of biohacking and into the newest and latest like better ways of doing things. And I'm most certainly the aesthetic guy like that.

So we all have our little camps of things that are more of a priority, but that doesn't mean that I think my way is better than either one of their ways or vice versa. So I think, um, not to be able to argue your point well and like, you know, like make it, if it makes sense, like just knowing that, you know, like I'm open to that, like I'm open to, to information and I have to remain that way for me to improve. So I think it's important too that people know that a lot of times they hear the banter back and forth with Sal a lot of times I challenge him not because I disagree with him. I challenge him because I try and put myself in a position of what do I think people are thinking when he says that?

Like we just did that just right now with the cannabis thing and he laughed and he made fun of me afterwards like you know here Adam is being all and he's right because I would be the first one to be all pro marijuana but because he took that stance I chose to take the other stance to help everybody else who's listening. It's not a matter of I disagree with what he's having to say It's that I know some of the fucker that's listening right now is tuning him out because they already have their bias views. I want to represent that bias view so they can hear him explain himself in depth even more. And then we can educate more people that way. That's just good radio. I mean, if you could you imagine if the world operated on the, you know, on that basis of, I would lie, I'm open to being wrong, you know the whole like I'm gonna seek to understand before I seek to be understood

You know you guys have heard that quote. Yeah, I The the progress in the world would be incredible. I mean right now we're in the midst of this election season and Elections always polarized the shit out of people and they're designed to do that. That's what they do That's that's the whole purpose of the five5 billion they're going to spend on this presidential election is to polarize people so that you vote for one guy or the other, not because you like them, but because you hate the other guy more. But imagine if everybody for a second said, hmm, I'm going to seek to understand versus trying to get everybody to understand me. I'm going to be open to being wrong. Imagine how much progress we would make and how much more power we would give ourselves versus to these people who influence us in ways that we all know is wrong.

Everybody would admit, it's funny, you talk to anybody and you ask them, do they trust mega corporations and politicians and they'll all say, no, no, no, no, and yet they allow themselves to be super influenced and they don't listen to other points of view. And I think that's a horrible thing. Always be open to listening, always be open to being wrong. I swear to God, you know, you're many times you won't be wrong,

many times all you can do is strengthen your position. But every once in a while, every once in a while, somebody blows your mind. And that is such a great feeling. You know, it's awesome. I have to say this because it's just happened to us. We did a seminar and this is, I get annoyed when this gets asked.

It's been asked several times before. Why do you guys not have a female host on your show? And can I just tell you I get so many emails, let's say that. Do you really? Yeah. And what annoys me about it is, Sal and Justin Sex has nothing to do with why they're co-hosts or why you are already sexy. What has made the the dynamic so special is that I've never met two other humans. Okay. Actually three, if you include Doug, who's Doug's like this also,

who seek out to prove their message wrong. Like I am looking for, I'm looking for the opposite side. If I have a stance, for example, like if I was, you know, bring it to religion, right? If I was a Christian, I'm reading Mormonism, I'm reading, I'm reading all the other religions. I wanna learn about everything else. I don't wanna get so indoctrined by my way

if one way of thinking that I have tunnel vision. And like these men are the same way too. Like we may talk about a certain way of training and programming or nutrition, but we're at the same time that we're talking about it. We're reading all the stuff that opposes what we're talking about. And that has nothing to do with being a man or woman.

Yeah, I mean, if it was a young lady that did that, I mean, it'd be awesome. Yeah, I haven't shown it. It doesn't matter. It doesn't, none of that matters. And at the end of the day, you know, it's not about your sex or your race or religion. At the end of the day, we're all individuals.

We're all individuals. And if we respect individuals and what they, you know, their rights and their, you know, what they, what they bring to the table, then we'll end up respecting all minority groups, whether it be man, woman, black, white, whatever. And at the end of the day, it's about the individual sitting in this room.

And if you guys were all chicks, that'd be awesome. Well, I love that, but it doesn't matter. Yeah, people have different perspectives. And I get it. A lot of females, too, they wanna have, kind of put themselves into the conversation, is like, represent where, like represent like where they're coming from. And you know, like that's why we're going to have guests. And that's

why we talk to unique people. And that's why we pull people into the conversation. But as far as like the core of what we're trying to do and like the message and everything, like we're we just trying to be well, I just talk about what it is. I know it's a little detour. We always kind of do that. But it just when you guys were I'm listening to what it is. I know it's a little detour. We always kind of do that. But when you guys were, I'm listening to both you talk. And it just, I continue to fall in love with you. We've been together now for a couple of years. And you know, they're just not a lot of humans. There's not a lot of humans like that.

And I've had, we talked about, we've had thousands of clients that we've trained. Well, fuck, I've had thousands of trainers that have worked for me, at least a thousand, that have worked for me, you know, at least a thousand that have worked for me over my 10 plus year career in leadership. So, and they were all male, female, all the above, right? So, you know, it's not anything to do with their sex. It's that when you listen to them talk about what they're sharing right now, that is unique

to find, especially in the fitness world. People in the fitness world, they want to find, they're the notorious for, oh, they get into their thing. Oh, they get into their camp, whether it be CrossFit or whether it be- Or kettlebells or bodybuilding. Yes, whatever, whatever, even like, yeah, exactly.

It can be one of those things and then they just, they stick in it and I hate that. I mean, people want to do it to me all the time because just because I got into competing. Like now I'm like categorized as the bodybuilder out of us or the men's physique guy out of us. Like, no, I'm not. I'm really not.

I did that. I chose to do that. There's things I love about it, but I'm not in this camp of it. I'm not like team men's physique guys and this is, I'm all about that. Like, no, not at all. And that's what's so unique about it. It's hard to find humans like that. So I mean, if they were

women, it would probably be better. I'd much rather be looking at two good looking girls that are talking to me right now. But unfortunately, I got stuck with these two ugly guys. So, you know, that is that is the reason why the. He just gave us a shit sandwich. It is a main reason why why we're together, though, it has nothing to do with that at all. It's that ability to to be humble like that to seek continue to seek knowledge even when you're full of knowledge already You're still looking at things are gonna challenge the things that you're promoting in St. Versus Everybody else wants to take this stance. They they learn a little bit They get a little bit of schooling they get a little bit of education and then all they do is they continue to go deeper into

Their their realm so they can defend and argue. So someone could say like, oh, you're into that. Oh, well, and then they go back and forth and they have this versus, I'm, we're always trying to expand and learn more and challenge our way of doing that as one of the reasons why I have vegan days or I have low protein days.

It's the whole reason why I ever even embarked on learning about fasting or any of these types of things. It's, these were all counter to everything I'd ever learned and had I not been able to be open to being proven wrong. I'd still be, you know, eating six times a day, feeling shitty and having horrible side effects and not getting very much progress and being a batting, being not as good of a trainer.

I would have been stuck in that realm. I think at the end of the day, you're either going to believe one of two things. You're either egging to believe that people are inherently good. Most people are inherently good, okay? Or are you going to believe that most people are inherently bad? Now, I believe most people are inherently good. And my evidence is society, okay? Society want to work if most people were bad.

Bottom line, I don't give a shit, what government or whatever you put in place, if people were bad, shit wouldn't work. So there's your evidence right there. Now knowing that, knowing that people are inherently good, I know that when they are preaching something or promoting something, for the most part, for the most part, most people,

just they truly believe in what they're saying. So I'm not gonna look at that person like they're an asshole. I'm just gonna look at that person like they're an asshole. I'm just gonna look at them and say, okay, that's what they believe. Let me see if I can understand the way they do. Let me see if I can understand why they're so passionate about their belief.

Many times I come out of it and say, okay, they're wrong. I think that they're delusional because they're not open to some, to these other things. I think they've been indoctrinated, but every once in a while, every once in a while, I go in and I open my eyes and I come out and I go, holy shit, there's something there. There was something there.

They were right. And you know what? It changes me. And I love that shit. It's great because I'm better. It's you grow. I'm better at the end of the day. So listen, if you like Mind Pump, leave us a five star rating review on iTunes and check us out on Instagram at Mind Pump Radio. You can find me at Mind Pump Sal, add them at Mind Pump Adam, just in at Mind Pump Justin. And don't forget to check out our discounted RGB Superbundle at MindPumpMedia.com. The RGB Superbundle includes maps and a ballad, maps performance and maps aesthetic,

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