Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 394: Replicating Newbie Gains, Avoiding Fat Loss While Fasting, Negatives of Cannabis & MORE

Episode Date: November 2, 2016

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out that's important not the guy that you want because we all know you want Justin the guy that you want yeah make sure you do that that's the most important part if you want to get your free shirt and your free guide make sure that you send the email right afterwards guide you way to success. Ziggy Piggy Ziggy Piggy. What's that from? What is that from? I think it's Bill and Ted's. Bill and Ted's because when they were they had an Napoleon and they were trying to babysit them, right? And he was eating ice cream at that place and then you ate the whole thing and then they came by and it was at Ziggy Piggy's and they're like, Ziggy Piggy. Dude, that's a movie that's, nobody wanted, I mean, I feel like it's a classic, right?

Of course it's a classic. I hate people that don't know my billented references. I love it. I hate you. I hate you if you don't know it. Yeah. You got a dick bill. You know what's another movie that we forgot about

or people kind of forgot about and I showed my kids the other day? Ace Ventura. Oh yeah, great classic. That was, that was. I had to say that. A lot of whiners, just to say it's a classic. I was me feeling like, old, old, old, turned.

But here's the thing, you got, I don't know if you guys have experienced this yet. I put it on, had the kids watch it, and I'm like, I just, I pumped it up on my, I'm like, this is the funniest movie you've ever seen in your entire life. And then I watched them like, it's not that fun. But anybody that impersonates him, yeah. You get it, it's horrible. Is it because he got played the fuck out? No, it's because that, we were, I'm the only one who's the only one who's the only one who's the only one who's the only one who's the only one who's the only one who's the only one who's the only one who's the only one who's the only one who's the only one who's the only one who's the only one who's the only one who's the only one who's the only one who's the only one who's the only one who's the only one who's the only one who's the only one who's the only one who's the only one who's the only one who's the only one who's the only one who's the only one who's the only one who's the only one who's the only one who's the only one who's the only one who's the only one who's the only one who's the only one who's the only one who's the only one who's the only one who's the only one who's the only one who's the only one who's the only one who's the only one who's the only one who's the only one who's the only one who's the only one who's the only one who's the only one who's the only one who's the only one who's the only one who's the only one who's the only one who's the only one who's the only one who's the only one who's the only one who's the only one who's the only one who's the only one who's the only one who's the only one who's the only one who's the only one who's the only one who's the only one who's the only one who's the only one who's the only one who's the only one who's the only one who's the only one who's the only one who's the only one who's the only one who's the only one who's the only one who's the only one who's the only one who's the only one who's the only one who's the only one who's the only one who's the only one who's the only one who's the only one who's the only like someone so like someone that's old. Yeah, the ace venture. You don't have any old slap sticks.

Yeah. Well, no, that like a ironic type humor or stupid humor, like dumb and dumb or ace venture, all those, that type of comedy I feel like didn't really exist before those guys, or if it did, they really evolved it and then the Chris Farley's came. All these guys started to do this like self-depreci where you just like physical comedy to right no i don't think that i don't think that necessarily goes out of style you know i think

i don't know that goes out of style it's just that it will we wore the new ness of it was brand new all those guys were so fucking hilarious because it was a dumb name someone who did it before yeah i know that well i don't know because i was young i I don't think I can't think of movies before. You weren't that young before Ace Ventura. You were probably. Well, what year did Ace Ventura come out? 90, like mid 90s, right?

Yeah. I believe so. It reminds me of like the three stuages. I don't know. Yeah, see, three stuages is a slap. There you go. There you go, though. I mean, and look how classic they are

and how long they carried forward. But see, here's the thing. I think Ace Ventura had such a huge impact on pop culture, like how many catch phrases caught on because of that? You're not going there. Yeah, whoo! Yeah, all that stuff.

All right, you there. It's all played out, but it's, as an adult now watching, it's not as funny. Yeah, not in my life. It's different, so it's a different time. I think it's, you know, like, maybe it's because we're not fully developed cognitively yet. I don't know.

No, I just feel like it's because it's been played out a little bit. It's a childish kind of. It was so, it was so new to us, it was so hilarious. But now so many comedians after those guys have tried to kind of do the same type of humor and some of excel that didn't done well. Yeah, you're right, you can only watch that once.

I think that's it because remember, they tried to like make a, you know, follow up to that and it was God awful. It's a, you can't do that same joke again. I knew it was fun. I mean, yeah, yeah, I guess you're right. It's like the follow up to dumb and dumb or dumb or two was nowhere near as good as the first song. The name, name a comedy movie that had a movie right after that, a follow up that was any good. Yeah, it's good. You tried it Friday?

No, no. The Friday series was still hilarious. The first one was in. Of course, the king, that's the king. Okay, actually, so now you're trading on a topic that's, I mean, this is disputed, not disputed. Very rarely does any sequel do as well as the original. I don't know, I don't know.

There's only one. Empire Strikes Back, Die Hard you Star Wars die hard series Star Wars die hard like Indiana Jones Temple of the godfather the godfather part two was fucking money. That was a bad example was money But no most sequel suck compared to that To most it's a coin it's a coin flip with Action and adventure type. It's all the lore of the rings. I mean, I could go on and on about all kinds of movies that I like sequels in. But comedy though, you're right.

Yeah, comedy, you can't replicate that. It's like lightning in a bottle. The first time you think of the hangover. The first time somebody makes you laugh. I like the first one, but that was the whole joke. And then they repeated that whole joke. Yeah, they kept doing it. It's like, dude, no, you already did that.

It's like this. If right now we're in the mid show, never done this before. If I farted, cupped it through in Sal's face, you would all fucking laugh right now. If I did that every time, Sal would be annoyed. You would be like, okay, it's not so funny anymore. Well, it smells in here, Adam.

Right, exactly. So then you get annoyed by it because you've seen it already. It's not funny anymore. But there's something to be said about that, the very first time someone does something like that, that you weren't ready for, it makes you laugh. I don't know, I think if you kept your fart

and threw that me a whole bunch, I think the repetitiveness of it would make it funny. I'd be like again? Again! And I'd probably start laughing. No. So, I started something back in high school and I still do this and people, I love to do this

to somebody for the first time. I have really bad allergies. So I sneeze all the time. So I love to like, intentionally sneeze right on somebody. What the fuck? You're such a dick. Wait, wait, wait, wait, hold on a second. That's not funny.

It is wrong. When you're, okay. It seems more of my friends is wrong. Okay, so remember this, remember this. I've told you this now, I won't do it to you guys. I'll do it to another one of our friends when we're all together. And because I've told you guys,

you guys are gonna fucking die laughing. Because when it happens to the person, they don't know whether to be mad or laugh about it because they don't realize it was intentional because it seems, a sneeze seems accidental and it comes out of nowhere, right? But you know when it's coming on. So I will do that and sneeze all over one of our friends

and then you watch the reaction. I'll do it like a crag, somebody who like, you know, you're like a lot of mist to it. What about, well, I mean, I can't, I used to gleeke on people. Do you have to do that? Man, you got to gross, man. Yeah. You got a friend with your dad too. I told you about my one friend that he had this like real unique talent. He could like summon from the bottom of his stomach. Like this, this burp that would like come all the way up from his gut and he would let it out really slow right behind.

Right behind somebody's head, like they didn't even know, he just like, and then almost to the person like, whoa, I was like, that's so rude. You know, and it's just like, and this is where... And people reap in real life.

And this is where people think we're bros. I know, right? I was sort of thing where bros right here. And people, I was just gonna say... But that was like in junior high. You know what I mean? I'm just gonna say, and then you get people who are like, Oh, men and women are the same.

Dude, I don't see chicks doing this. No, they don't do that shit. No. Which is why they're not as funny as we are We're fucking hilarious because we we That's not funny. We don't have periods. Yeah, we don't do that either because we burp on each other Does anybody else want to scream the top of their lungs inside of this new studio? I feel like because it's so I do Doug right away, goes like, you see Doug, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he Adam's voice may actually sound okay. Singing. There's only one way to know.

What the hell's wrong with this sound? There's only one way to know. I'm gonna change the subject. We put your poo in it. You're pulling them in. Who dressed my dick? Yeah, did you put the address the dick? Oh, I put the pirate outfit in.

Yeah, I did that. That's awesome. I like it, Doug. Yeah. I like him pirate dick. Came in here and put a bandana and an eye patch on him. He's got, he's only, yeah. It's my heart, he's, it's my heart. It He's got it. He's only yeah, it's my heart

He's apparently dick's only got one eye. Yeah, it's my one-eyed dick one-eyed dick I like it. See it makes no sense. We need to take a picture of this and post it on Instagram Yeah, so that you listen to find a beard and glue if you guys want to see Adam's dick dressed up the one-eyed dick You go to my Instagram go to our Instagram page of my I'm gonna go to our Instagram page of my I promise you I promise you the dick will be up there I promise it Richard Please only his friends call him dick is rigid Richard. He's a champion. He's one. I let's do this motherfucker Got me Caw! Caw!

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It's the motherfucking C! The English Landed! Quique-quile. Our first question is from LexiRb. What if you want the health benefits of fasting but don't want to get leaner? Can you do that? Mm, okay. Here's the thing, fasting is so effective at getting leaner

that if you're already shredded, you're afraid to do it. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. No, the reality is. It's actually really good. It is a good question. It's a good question because it's talked about especially with women too.

We talked about that. If you're already lean and then going into, you know, fast, like there might be some challenges there. Well, the challenges with fasting are, the challenges you're gonna encounter with any form of stress on the body. We need to hammer that home. We've said it many times, but fasting is a stress on the body, and that's why you get adaptations, your body adapts to it, or why your body improves,

just like with exercise or any other stress on the body, your body attempts to become stronger as a result. Can you overdo stresses in the body? You absolutely can. Fasting is one of those things. If you're shredded and you fast super long all the time and your calories are also low, you're going to encounter some problems. That being said, let's say you're already at a healthy lean body fat percentage, but you want the health benefits of fasting. Besides fat loss, here's a funny thing about fasting.

Fat loss is the side effect of fasting. I think the primary benefits of fasting have nothing to do with the fat loss. They have everything to do with the neuroprotective effects, the immunoselves, the body, the anti-inflammatory effects of fasting. All those things. Dying off of unhealthy cells, or weaker cells, the growth hormone production that you get. Builders all that out. Yeah, insulin sensitivity.

All those things just help you. Alpitating. Alpitating control. There's a ton of benefits from that. They have nothing to do with weight loss. And I think we're this, so someone who's like this, so if I have somebody who is, I put them on the smaller windows of fasting,

so like I'm gonna push that person, like the 15 to 20 hour tops that we're gonna fast work. And then you now still have a window of, anywhere between six to eight hours or so of eating that you still can. And so really the weight loss thing or getting leaner things that come with your core can take. So if you are struggling with that,

are you afraid that you're gonna get leaner then you would just kick your calories up. And if I'm somebody who, this person likes you, what I would do is I would do it after a heavy day of calories. So let's say you enjoyed yourself and you know you ate in a surplus, I would turn around and a heavy day of calorie. So let's say you enjoyed yourself and you know you ate in a surplus, I would turn around and run the fast after that.

So whatever weight loss or leaning out benefits you're gonna get are pretty much canceled from the overconsumption that you just did the day before. So that's a good point because I think people need to realize like if like fasting doesn't need to be done every single day. No, it's intermittently. I mean, that's the whole point of like, it's getting you outside of that daily schedule,

like feeding sequence, you know, like stepping outside of the sequence. So that way your body responds, you know, better and louder sometimes and things operate better. No, Adam, didn't you even, you even did like a fast every once a week when you're poking? I do that. Yeah, I fast always once a week. That's kind of how I intermittently do it, whether I'm bulking, leaning or maintaining. And right now I would consider myself a maintaining on the slash kind of lean right now,

but even before that, when I was going through gaining and bulking, I would be still incorporating it once a week. And when I do it on a bulk, what I do is, like I just said, is I would have a day, so like for me, and we'll just use hypothetical numbers because we're all different anyways, you know, a high-choloric day for me would be like 5,000 calories. So I'd have like a 5,000 calorie day on Friday, and then Saturday, I wouldn't eat till like two or three in the afternoon. So I would run my fast, and then I'd still end up having a 3500 to 4000 calorie day, but

because I was in a surplus the day before, the average of the two still averages out to about 4000 calories, which is about my maintenance to maintain. So I'm not going to lose any weight off of that, but I'm not going to gain either and I'm going to get the extra benefits of fasting. Yeah. I mean, when you examine some of the research on fasting, there's so many different health benefits and there's so many different ways that you can do it. And some of the research researchers even say that you should fast for a prolonged period of time, like a 24, 48 hour fast, but do it very seldom.

So like maybe once, you know, once every three months to a 48 hour fast, and you'll get lots of benefit, or once every six months to a 72 hour fast, you're still gonna get lots of benefits from doing it like that versus the more frequent shorter fast. But they all have, like I said, they all, like I'm saying, they all have their benefit, and it doesn't necessarily mean you're gonna get leaner.

And again, you can even do it when you're trying to gain by simply making up for those calories on the days before and after and all that stuff. Personally, for me, I don't fast to get leaner. I'm as lean as I wanna be. I don't wanna get any leaner. I don't wanna lose any more weight. I don't think any of us do.

I think the majority of why we all use it is for the health benefit. I'll tell you what, man. And it's a lesson that I learn every single time I stop fasting for a while and then I reincorporate it. I feel fucking great. Every single time, it's almost like I need to take a reminder every time, like the battery recharge.

Every single time, I'll go for, and I'll do this for a week or two at a time where I'll eat regularly or semi-regulate, I'll have breakfast, lunch, and dinner type of stuff. And then I'll notice my energy isn't as good, or I'm not feeling as motivated or as sharp. And then I'll say, you know what, I need to, I'm gonna do another 24 hour fast.

And every time I'm like, God damn it, I forget how fucking awesome I feel. The energy I get from it is incredible. It's almost like natural caffeine. It's hard to explain unless you've done it. Now, the thing with fasting, and it's funny, because we always say, you know, do it properly, make sure you fast properly.

There is a right and a wrong way to do it. And what I mean by that is, of course, not eating is the main part of fasting, but how you treat yourself during that fast, which you eat after that fast. And there are different ways to fast, and some may work better for you than others. You wanna find the right one that works, which you eat after that fast. And there are different ways to fast, and some may work better for you than others. You wanna find the right one that works best for you.

We have a fasting guide, a very inexpensive, 27 bucks, fasting guide that highlights six different ways of fasting that we approve of for people to use for fitness, fitness and performance benefits and health benefits. We don't typically encourage longer than 24 hour fast because those tend to be more advanced and I wouldn't recommend anybody do that unless they have experience with fasting.

But that's our fasting guy, which you can find at Mind Pump Media. Well, not only that, the reason why I was really glad that you picked this question was because it's important for us to talk about how we don't want people to connect the fasting to just a weight-losting. In fact, that should be the last thing that we're totally worried about when it comes to fasting. But I think a lot of people think this way. I think it was important that we discussed this. Well, dude, you list all the benefits, right? If I took a whiteboard, I listed all the benefits of fasting with fat loss being in there,

right? And you show that to someone, one you think they're gonna be. I know they're gonna be mostly excited about it. It is. And it's really it's the least important one at all of it. In fact, I, anybody who's incorporating fasting on a regular basis should not be doing it and watching their scale or how fast they're leaning or not leaning. Because then I still think that creates another bad relationship with foods where it's like, I need to like starve myself

or restrict for many hours. Many hours so I can look like this, like no, no, no, no, no, backup, that's not how we want you to incorporate fasting. I want you to incorporate fasting for the health benefits of it, not because it's going to speed up your weight loss now, Ken, they do that, absolutely, are these other, but yes, but your mentality going into it, I think is very important or else you can also create a very poor relationship with fasting.

Then you start... All them fasting becomes another drug. Well, then you're no better than the skinny model girl who that's the only way she knows how to get in shape as she eats carrots all day long and that's like her diet to get in shape. It's like, I'll just starve the body. You know, it's funny too. And I've experienced this with so many clients. Yeah. When they approach fasting with a weight loss intention, it's much more difficult for them

to fast. Yeah. Then when they approach it, it's meant to warfare, then. Yes. Then they're like, oh my god, I just think about food all day. And how do you, when they approach it with the health benefits in mind, it doesn't seem to be an issue. Right.

People need to realize the psychological effect of your intention with your nutrition is huge, simply intending to become healthier, makes it easier. Because it's like you feel that you're doing something good for your body. Right, I mean, you're not just trying to starve yourself, to punish yourself or to do something in order to,

struggle through the process of it to get to a point, you're benefiting your body by doing this right now and you're going to be able to assimilate food better. You're going to be able to, your inner workings are going to work better. You're going to filter through all these potentially harmful cells in your body. So these are good things to do into practice. And so it's disciplined, but then when you go into it, like you're benefiting your body's health,

you're optimizing your health, totally different stories. Well, do you guys decide to fast? Is there anything that you notice in yourself? You're like, okay, I think I'm gonna do a fast coming up to you. There's a couple of things. I know if I did a really high carb day where I'm gonna be inflammation. So these are the markers.

So anytime I tell a client we're gonna go on a fast, we're not talking about weight, we're not talking about the scale. We're talking about water retention, we're talking about inflammation, we're talking about energy, we're talking about stamina, we're talking about sleep, we're talking about all those markers

is what I wanna to hear back. I want to hear my client tell me, how do you feel? You know, how does it, and then I also want them to associate with once they get beyond that mental, oh, I need to eat at this time. How do you actually feel? Do you feel all tired or actually do you feel, because what most people are surprised at is when they would

normally eat, so let's say, you know, 10 in the morning or nine, whatever it is, and they're skipping that meal. That's what they've decided. They're gonna fast till two or three, like most do on their intermittent days. They go, wow, you know, come, once I broke past that half hour hour where I would normally be consuming food,

I actually wasn't that hungry anymore. And I felt great. I had great energy. I felt fine all day long. And then I noticed too, my stomach's flat. I'm not holding a much of water. I don't have any inflammation. These are all the things that I'm talking to a client. So for me, I know when I eat something that like I fasted

right after the day that we had this, we just recently, my buddy came in town, it was his 36th birthday, we had a phenomenal cake. And I had a little more than what I probably should. But you know that this is how I roll too. Like I mean, that doesn't happen very often in my life. So when I do that I'm going to enjoy myself, but then I'm also very aware of what all that sugar ends up doing. So after that I turn around the next day and I'll do an intermittent fasting day.

So that's kind of how I dictate my days right now. It's a lot of times too, y'all, I'll feel it out, whether or not I feel like I'm oversaturated. You know I feel like, you know I've been consuming, you know quite a bit. I've been trying to you off, I'll feel it out whether or not I feel like I'm oversaturated. I feel like I've been consuming quite a bit. I've been trying to move more, but then I'm eating a lot and I just feel like I just feel way down, blow it, whatever it is, just the feeling of being oversaturated, then I'm like, I got to interrupt this. So then I'll use it for that, or Adam said, I'll have a pre-planned kind of weekend where

I know that like, you know, dinners are going to be a heavy calorie wise or I'll be drinking or whatever it is. And I'm just, you know, I'm going to just be cool leading up to that and hydrate and plan accordingly. So it's just about kind of adapting to this sort of flux of lifestyle things that come in and out. And so, you know, that's what I love about it is because I'm able to mirror a lot of my lifestyle around trying to keep healthy habits by incorporating it. See, I notice when I have my energy starts to get low

consistently, like if I notice God, I need more coffee throughout the day. Or when I have gut issues, when I start to feel gut issues and digestion issues, that for me is a signal do a fast, and every single time a fast resets me, gives me my energy, reduces the inflammation of my gut. It's like, that's like my biggest signal for me, so these are things you might wanna pay attention to

with your body, and those are the reasons why you should utilize fasting, that necessarily for the weight loss. Aaron K. Edwards is asking, what are some of the negatives of cannabis on the body? Mm. Adam, the negatives. There really aren't any,

to be honest with you, it pretty much makes all of life better. Some of the negative effects I have, well, some of the negative effects I've found is I tend to like to have it before I have sex. And so sex after that is less exciting. So that could be a negative. I also noticed that some different strains promote hunger.

So sometimes I have a hard time controlling the munchies as they call it. I also noticed that even though I use it to settle my brain down. And this a big big thing that I like is late at night I come home I relax I have a problem with shutting my brain down it feels like it sounds like there's people You know hammering and sawing and making crazy noises in my brain all night. That's what happens Then I smoke cannabis and it completely shuts that down now the problem with that it shuts that down It also shuts this ability to remember the conversation I'm having with Katrina. So sometimes

she'll be conversing with me. That's just because you're a man. Okay, so that's why I wanted to be careful, right? I don't want to completely, I don't want to totally connect that to cannabis. This could be just being a man and what it's like to be in a relationship with a woman for a long time that you just start to, it starts to get all muddled after they talk for longer than 30 seconds. But I right now attribute that to the heavy dose of that. And then I think this place, which I have these shoes on. And I feel like this right now, I'm going to be on it. And then Susie came over. Lemon and mignon. And we lost all our lives. I feel like this right now. I'm always feeling it.

And then Susie came over. Lemon mignon. And we lost all our listeners. Right. And then I just smile back and I go, I love that. Love that. Absolutely. So these are some of the negative effects that I have found from cannabis.

So I tend to be a little bit dumber. While I'm medicated, I tend to overly enjoy sex, so without it is. Oh, what a horrible side effect. Whoa. Whoa. What a shitty like, you just like make it a, you just made more people want to smoke weed. I also, this is another thing too.

I also, you forget your stupid conversations and you want to fuck more. Don't do it, guys. I also, when I watch movies, I can point out really bad acting. So if you're a bad actor and I'm watching you, when I'm on, it's a time move slower. Yeah, it slows the movie down so I can see all the little mistakes that they make. So this can ruin a really good movie.

So if you have a movie you like, like maybe it's a piano. There's a boomstick that went down right here. Yeah, like don't want to get on a Reeves movie. I mean, it's more medicated because some of those are some of my favorite point prank excellent movie, but when medicated, you see how poor of an actor he is.

So there's things like that that I have found with cannabis. But for the most part, it pretty much enhances everything for me. What about you, so? So, so here's a thing. It sounded like a through. It's all science commercial. Something commercial for kids coming out. No, we need to, so, so here's the thing. It sounded like a through this whole science.

It sounds like commercial for kids coming out. No, we need to be honest with people. I, I, first off, I know, sorry, somebody had to be positive about that. I knew you were going to go take it. No, no, no, no, take it. I turned a negative Nancy town here. Yeah, no, can a, cannabis is definitely has some documented, scientifically proven negatives. One of them is memory impairment.

This is a big one and this is, oh good, so I was right there. This is the main, yeah, you forgot that part. Hey, this is one of the main reasons why I don't use cannabis more regularly. I limit my use because of the memory impairment, side effects, and I can tell, I have a really good memory. And I can tell if I use more cannabis than I normally do that all the memory would be

affected. Where I'll have poor ability to recall certain words or conversations. And studies will confirm it. Studies confirm that cannabis causes short-term memory impairment. And believe it or not, there's actually some studies that suggest that cannabinoids can impair all stages of memory. This is especially true of young people that use marijuana.

When you're young and you're brain, because your brain doesn't really stop growing and developing. And I hate to use that word because there's always some neural plasticity going on until the day you die. But most of the growth of the brain stops right around your early to mid-20s. And they find when people use cannabis heavily, especially during adolescence, they have some side effects, one of them being some long-term memory effects. Now you have to understand this.

This is what you have to understand whenever you use a substance that has an Effect on the body. There's typically a counter effect. If it affects one system, it's gonna affect other systems And your body is this kind of homeostasis machine. It's always trying to balance itself out Your body produces its own Endocannabinoids. These are molecules and chemicals that are very similar to the phyto cannabinoids found in cannabis These are molecules and chemicals that are very similar to the phyto cannabinoids found in cannabis. That's why you have receptors for them. What do you think's gonna happen

if I flood my body constantly with cannabinoids from a plant? What do you think's gonna happen? Well, the same thing that happens to your body if you take lots of testosterone from the outside, your body stops producing or produces less of its own cannabinoids, and it may down regulate receptors

that those cannabinoids attach to. So you could notice some some some some detraments. Now that being said, well, it's also this is a to me, it's an obvious sign when you're somebody who finds yourself having to smoke or eat more and more of it in order to get the same feeling or effect. Definitely.

And all cannabis use the way you use it is not all the same. I mean, smoking it or vaporizing or eating it. Eating it's probably the best way to use it. Although the effects are so long, you probably don't wanna be high that long every single day. Vaping is probably the best if you're trying to mitigate the effects on the brain

because it's still shorter acting. Suppository. Yeah, definitely, I definitely don't agree with people that do dabs. Dabs are ridiculous. Like one hit off a dab is like 10 hits off of a joint. I think using cannabis is one thing. I think doing dabs is like hardcore drugs almost.

Of course, they're going to go to the extreme. I think too is the ritual of like the association of things. Like, okay, I do this. I'm awesome at this because I smoked. I get sleep like this because I smoke. Good point. So I think that there's like a fine line with that where yes, you may get like benefits to it,

but if you're solely relying on that being something to get you to that place and you haven't figured out how to do that without any added substance, that could be an issue. I don't feel like it's much different than any fucking thing else that we talk about. That's true, that's a tool, like I said, it's a tool.

The problem with this thing is that of course, we made it illegal, like everything else, it shouldn't be illegal. That's by the way, that's the worst thing about cannabis is it's illegality. Because the fact that it's illegal has caused more deaths, the fact that it's illegal has destroyed more lives than cannabis made for health.

Everett has money. Right. I mean, look at all the people that have gone in jail. I mean, it's federally still a schedule one drug. It's silly. I think we're treating it totally wrong. I think we've over-regulated the fuck out of it and turned it into something that-

It's primed for study to benefit us even further but hasn't been conducted because it's illegal. Yeah, I mean, there's definitely anti-cancer effects that need to be studied for fuck's sake. There's some neuroprotective effects that need to be studied. Anti-seizure effects, anti-naj effects, but like any tool that has an effect on the body, it can be abused and it can have negative side effects.

If you, look, if you're a fucking stoner all day long, I don't care how much you're protecting your neurons and fighting cancer, you're a fucking loser. You know what I'm saying? You're abusing a substance, but you can do that with food too. And by the way, there's more people abusing food than there are. Well, it's like, you talk about testosterone and the road rage. You know, it's like, it's the person that already is like an asshole.

And then it just, maybe that'll like, you know, enhance his assholeness a little bit. True. They were already an asshole. True. And now there is also evidence to show that cannabis can lead to lower levels of motivation. This is probably due to the fact that using cannabis

does stimulate dopamine release. And over time, your body may, it probably does, adapt to that by reducing its normal production of dopamine. And so you find yourself being lazier and less motivated to be proactive to do certain things. That's maybe why the whole lazy stoner... Well, and I find this to be very... And speaking of anecdotal, this is something that I... It doesn't matter if I...

And I've experimented with every sativa strain out there. So remember I had clubs. So literally I've tried like every sativa strain out there. So remember I had clubs, so literally I've tried like every sativa strain that's out there and Indika and hybrid and everything in between. And it doesn't matter to me. When I medicate with cannabis, I lose my productivity.

And I know there's somebody out there that's listening right now and they're like, oh, not me, I work all day and I'm high all time. Well, I also have something to say to that person. It's probably the same thing that the person who eats like shit every single day and thinks they feel really good. You probably don't know what it's like to feel really good if you're fucking medicated all day long all time. And so you've learned to function and be motivated and go to the gym and do all your things and be high all time. Well, then I would challenge you to be sober and not

smoke and not do the time to see how productive you actually really are because once again, when you become so dependent on something like that, then the real effects and benefits you're getting from it be beginning to diminish just like anything else that we talk about. There's parallels we can draw to this to working out and movements and exercise that you do over and over and over and over, you can overdo anything,

you can over squat, you can overdo shit like that. Your body, it's important, these are all different stresses that we're putting on it, which are going to stimulate or cause them sort of an adaptation, which there are lots of great health benefits to all the things we talk about. But over done, any of them can be detrimental to the body. So.

And I think it's important to know, if you are the kind of, if you're a person that finds yourself needing to be in an altered state of consciousness all the time, you are likely escaping something. There's either you hate your life or you hate your job or you hate your wife or your husband or whatever, things suck, you may be depressed. You know, you got to examine why. Why is it that I can't go about my day and enjoy my normal day, unless I'm in some form of an altered state of consciousness?

Really look at that. Now that being said, there are real conditions in which people will benefit from being medicated all day long. If you have fibromyalgia, if you have severe gut issues, if you have incurable types of epilepsy, your life is only gonna be better from controlling those symptoms, in some cases,

curing them with the use of cannabis. So again, it's a tool and it needs to be utilized like a tool, but in no way, shape or form, what I ever advocate being high all the time for the sake of being high all the time. I think that's irresponsible. I think you're just not, you know, what I ever advocate being high all the time for the sake of being high all the time. I think that's irresponsible. I think you're just not, you know, you're kind of trying to be a loser, which is fine. That's your prerogative, be a loser all you want, but don't pretend like you're not.

Our next question is from 500 days of fuck you. One of our 50 days. We got the same game. I just read what's there. Do you think going to college helped you learn anything that you wouldn't have learned if you didn't go? Well, there's only one person that can answer this question. Yeah.

It was actually directed to me, but that's okay. Yeah, yeah. No, I definitely think that me going to college, this was all part of my particular pathway. And for me, I didn't really have any sort of super structured direction that I wanted to take coming out of high school. Like I didn't know like, oh, I want to do this for a living. Oh, I want to get into a trade or, oh, I want to research this and get really knowledgeable and have this hunger to go in that direction. I didn't really know what I was going to do. And so having that structure that that college provided

really did benefit me and me like creating new disciplines and working on projects and presenting and you know sharpening my skills as far as research is concerned you know, sharpening my skills as far as research is concerned, you know, that did benefit me a lot. And it was hard. It was a very hard, you know, process for me because like, you know, academia for me, like I really had to work at it, you know, it didn't come really easily.

And just the way that it's structured is not, and I didn't know that I would benefit so much not being in that environment. And that's why the contrast of that going from college to then sort of experimenting later, like I didn't really want to go into a nine to five job. I didn't want to go in that direction. And I had this period in my life where it was like, okay, let's really think about this, what are you going to do?

What are your plans? I don't know, but like experimenting and creating my own ideas, that really started to take off, and I enjoyed that much more. Now you went to school for kidneys, right? Yes. Okay, so I do think there's definitely some jobs and careers where you have to go to college to learn, like you're not gonna do it on your own as a doctor or a lawyer, you definitely have to go.

Well, yeah, of course, specialties, I can. But in fitness, this is what I'm interpreting from what you're saying, Justin. It sounds to me like it wasn't necessarily the fitness knowledge that you took from college, that you wouldn't have gotten outside of college. Sounds more like life lessons, like learning how to study,

learning how to work hard, learning how to do it. That's exactly what I took from it. Okay, yeah. Which is kind of interesting, like you how to study, learning how to work hard, learning how to do it. That's exactly what I took from it. Okay. Yeah. Which is kind of interesting. Like you paid the money to learn stuff about kinesiology, but when you really came out of it with positive, it wasn't really that, because you learned more of that through experience, right? Exactly. Exactly.

Well, I remember, so I went to, I did two and a half years, I was in JC, and I remember I got a, that you actually got a part time job as a personal trainer. And at that time, I didn't know that you could be a personal trainer and not have a degree. I actually had thought that all personal trainers had to have some sort of a degree in the field. So I was chipping away at my AA and was about to transfer over to San Jose and finish up my canes. And at the same time, I was working a part-time job for 24-hour fitness.

My manager, the time says to me, like, man, you should really do this full-time. You're really good at it, and you can work your way into management, and you can make this kind of money, and this night, and I was like, well, I really came over here to finish my degree, and this night, and he looked at me, and he goes, well, you know, in our field that a national certification is just as weighted as a degree is. And you can take it at home and you could do this. And at that point, I realized, well, this is the career I want. Like, I knew that I finally had decided at that point that, you know, Kinesh was where I was going. I knew I wanted to be into fitness and in this world, I was in love with the company that I had

been working for. I knew I'm gonna be a trainer. And at that point, it was like, well, that's true. It does make logical sense for me to just start cracking away at this. And I was young enough at the time. I said, okay, well, this is how I'm going to treat this. I'm going to give this job one year. And I'm gonna go...

That's exactly the same story as me. I literally said, I'm gonna give it one year of my life. I'm gonna give everything I got into it. And at that point, I'm still young. I've already got two years under my belt of college anyway. So if I want to go back, I'm in my early 20s. I'm not way behind. I can make that decision.

The rest is kind of history. I fell in love with the job. I started making really good money. I started accumulating national certifications. I found that I had a lot of my peers that had degrees and masters in the field and They were less successful at what I was doing and I was like holy shit like I don't have to go do this I can learn on my own I can kind of find out so for me that's why otherwise I was heading down the exact same path This Justin was was I was uncertain. I came out of high school. I almost did like this

Like I there was an I was uncertain I came out of high school. I almost did like this um like I it was in Arizona it was like a tech um what a trade school time deal right I was it was like a tech trade school that everybody was saying computers go to computers you know that's where all the money was at and so I was like all right well maybe I'll learn some trade and and computers and go that direction I almost did that I almost did the I almost signed up and went to the air force I almost did a couple different things. And you would have been miserable doing all right totally right. So I'm just into the Marines. And so I kind of went okay what I'm going to do is I'm going to go to junior college and I'm going to start to chip away. I need I didn't have money my family didn't have money so I couldn't afford to go to for you. I didn't have spectacular grade. I finished with like a

3.1 GPA. So I didn't have the grades to get like a full ride somewhere or anything like that. So I was like, okay, I'm going to go through J.C. I got to pay for my own schooling anyways. So I'll save money that way. During that time, I can kind of figure out what I want. Well, my first year in junior college, I was working out already. And I was watching my buddy and I were like, I've never forget. He actually said it first of me. He's like, you know what would be a really cool job, dude? It would be, we should look into becoming impersonal trainers while we're going through school.

And that was the moment that I really started to dive into it and find out what steps I needed to take in order to become a trainer and get in that. And then I found out, wow, there's actually, you can make some decent money and I like it and not on rest of history. See, think I think honest to God I think I would have really enjoyed college. Oh yeah. However, I mean my story's very similar to yours Adam. First of all I've always known I wanted to work in fitness I fell in love

with it at the age of 13, 14 years old. Always knew I loved it. Some I had to be in it somehow. So that wasn't the question. The problem with me was that school was completely and utterly unmemorable. I was so unstimulated. It was the most boring, like, I don't really remember it because it was so... It's so unique and neat to hear you say that too,

because you're not the average person who would say that. That's not coming from somebody who hates to read. You can say that. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, up. It's like, well, it's all memorization and regurgitation. But that's what I hear. I do literally, I would sit in class, I'm not exaggerating, I would sit in class, and if I had a textbook, if I was in history class or whatever, government, and I was really into that particular subject, the teacher would be doing as typical, or she'd do her typical, you know,

chapter three, the usual blah, blah, blah on the board, talking, and I'd be on chapter 15, I'd be reading the book myself in the back of the class. And then they would always think I wasn't paying attention. Sal, what's the answer to blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I'd be like, I'd know the answer because I read that fucking two weeks ago. It was so fucking boring that the thought of going to college made me want to rip my eyes out.

Like I have to sit in a classroom and continue doing this, this, this bullshit. It was totally unmemorable. I still signed up for junior college because I was like, I guess I have, because everybody says you have to go to college. Started as a personal trainer in day one of personal training. I was blowing the doors off everybody

when it came to selling personal training, getting people excited, whatever. Within four months, I was managing the fitness department. Here I am 18 years old, back in 1997. I'm projecting to make almost $80,000 that year, which is a shit ton of money back in 1997. Especially for an 18 year old. Meanwhile, I'm going to take in these classes

and I'm fucking bored out of my mind. Cause again, when you start in junior college, you gotta do the whole general education thing. It's a high school extended. Yeah, so in it fucking sucks. I'm like, this is garbage. I'm gonna just do this. At the time I had worked with who became one of my first mentors,

my very, very good friend, Don Cardona, who told me, look, you can move up in fitness. You're not, you get an entrepreneur's mind, you know, whatever. And so I went, that route. Now had I understood that once you get past that G, that general education, kind of extension of high school aspect of college, and you can kind of pick your classes and learn and grow up.

I probably would have fucking loved it because I love learning. And I would have been challenged, which would have stimulated me. Well, that's the frustrations because I was in it and wasn't enjoying it because it was the same process for me. And really for me, it became like this battle where, you know, I was already like sort of brushed off. Like I was the kid that wasn't supposed to go to college. I was the kid, you know, that, and so my whole purpose was to prove the world wrong

and get a degree. And literally that's all I thought about. I see. So I just did add a spike. Well, see, you're, I mean, see, for me, I was a kid. It was a little different, you know, people were always like, oh, you're gonna go to, you're gonna get a master's degree. You're so smart, whatever. And for me, I was so bored and unstimulated

that just didn't, it didn't resonate with me at all. And I want to say this, look, school, especially public schools, do a shitty job when it comes to kids that are on, you know, that are a little different. And I was definitely a little different. You know, I wasn't, you know, I didn't need like special help, but I would be bored a lot in class. And I can't, I mean, I'm sure I'm not the only one that slipped through the cracks like that, who didn't go because they were just fucking in stimuli.

I had a client who I trained for a long time. This is one of the most brilliant men ever, I ever trained. He actually, he was actually partners with some of the greatest minds of the tech industry, including Steve Jobs. He was directly worked under Steve Jobs and, you know, he currently works under what's his name over at Tesla. Elon Musk.

Elon Musk. Very, very smart guy. He got bad grades throughout school and kind of went to college. He had no other choice. And then realized he could pick what he wanted to learn. And then obviously, you know, you got to MIT after a couple years of junior college and became this like brain act, but it makes me sad to know that that happens a lot. I happen to me. I guarantee I would love college. I think I'll go back at one point. Although I don't know if it'll be the traditional form of college because education is changing so much. And I have so much excess

of an hour. Well, you got to think too, like it's the teachers. Like it all depends on what kind of teacher is influencing you. There's some teachers out there that really stimulate their students. Yeah. Really put the extra work in to figure out who they're not reaching.

And you know, my brother actually, he had a great experience with that and he actually became a teacher because of, he can pinpoint it to one teacher that influenced him more than all and it was just because you know he showed him a way to kind of go around that whole process. The system is designed to not do that though. The system is designed like you go to a class right. You're 11 years old. You sit in a classroom with a bunch of 11 year olds. That's actually not good. Believe it or not, children learn better

when they're in classes, if I'm 11 and I got eight year olds in there and I can help mentor, and I got 15 year olds that I can learn from. First, sure. They get people to look up to. It's just like, this is, this is,

everybody knows this from sports. Like when you were, if you played with somebody, if you played with your group or younger kids, like to elevate your versus, if you were always, I was always a kid who played with kids five years older. I mean, that's why I was good at sports.

And I never really had the genetics or the body to be good at any sports, but I was pretty damn good at everything I played. And a lot of that had to do with, I always hung out with older kids and played with the kids. Well, that's what I'm saying. Like if you look at education, it's designed to be this homogenous fitness box,

like you have to learn this. Here's your standards, memorize this bullshit, pass the test, we're gonna teach you how to pass the test, then you're done and you fucking forget everything. It's not designed to stimulate that, and so that creativity, that passion, and so I think that's where you miss a lot of that, and I was, man, I was one of them, I'm telling you,

I honest to God, can barely remember high school as a result. Well, I find the hard, I was really interested in the direction we go with this whole college question too, because it's a sensitive question to answer, because the things that we're saying right now, we're all 35 to 38 years old right now, and my perspective on that is completely different, and my perspective on learning,

and wanting to learn is different. The age that you are when college normally arrives for most people, right? You're between that 17 to 20 years old. And man, that's a tough age to really have the self-awareness to know what type of person you are and do you need the motivation externally to grow and to get better at whatever your craft is,

if you even know the direction you wanna go, so this is, I would never wanna detour a young mind right now from, I wish I had continued in the education. I think too, you're talking to 300 newers, we have to keep that in mind. Very important. So it's a different thought process, and I think that's why maybe you know, maybe for us,

we had a different experience. For a lot of people, college gives them, provides a great experience, a great sort of proving ground for them to, you know, work on their ideas and their processes and then apply them into a job that people like to work nine to five jobs. It does, but you have to consider this.

One of the most damaging things that we've done in this country is we've hammered home that you have to go to college. You have to get a degree, a four year degree. And what's happened is you've gotten kids who would have done great in a vocational school. They would have done very, very good, but they're hammered in their mind

that they have to go get this four-degree, they end up getting a degree that they don't use. It blows up the cost of college because we're so indoctrinated with the fact that we think we have to go, that we have these programs that make money easy to go to college. So you get all this easy money. Now college, the cost of college is ballooned

at a control, start passing inflation, you know, 10 times, because it's this thing that we constantly hammer home. You've got people getting degrees that are worthless, and I hate to say it, you're fucking liberal arts degree, I know you wanna learn that shit, and that's great, and you should be able to learn whatever you want, but it doesn't really equate to much in the real world, but in your mind, you're thinking, I have a degree.

I hate to tell you this, go out in the real world, get a job, you're competing with a lot of other degrees. It doesn't mean a whole lot. There's a lot of other things you can do, and if you're a hard working kid with motivation and passion, you know what you want to do, there's lots of different avenues. There's options.

And you can succeed in many different ways, and I think it's important, like Adam said, to know what you want, where you're going to go and to know there's lots of different options and college is one of those options, but there's many others. You know, pay attention to, I notice this is very common. I find them with a lot of, like a lot of my friends, I was actually probably the only one. All the friends I could think of that didn't go on to get his degree as masters and even some of my buddies or PhDs. Like, get his degree as masters and even some of my buddies are PhDs. Like, what I found that was very common in almost all of them is because they kind of fell

into this, like, you have to go to your parents or you have to go to college, you have to do this and they were just like, south said in doctrine, what this is the way, right? Or the only way. The only way, right? Is when they got out, guess what happens? They shut down learning. They like, they're over it. They, they, they, they, they accomplished that goal in their mind. They achieved their masters. They achieved

all this education. So they're desired to pick up a book and learn. They don't have that anymore because they're like, I did it. I did that already. I proved that I can go through school for six to eight years and accomplished this degree. And I'm pretty damn smart compared to the average person. And then they shut that down, which this is why a lot of, you know, my buddies that are the entrepreneurs, like the guys in this room and other buddies that I have that just call that PhD syndrome, right? And then they get that God complex and they don't feel that they got to keep evolving and growing. And now that we're in our mid 30s approaching 40s, even so much like so, is that what's happened. They just come a great view.

Silver. Well, what you're seeing now is now these guys never stopped learning. They had a desire to learn on their own and they established that at a young age. So here they are 38 years old, still growing, still learning, still pushing those limits, still pushing themselves, where I have now friends that finally finished school at 25 or 26 after all those years of education, and they shut it down.

So they're no, and it's like one of my favorite Lincoln quotes that I have no respect for a man that's no wiser today than he was yesterday, is they've gone through this whole process of getting educated and they stop, and sure they're still pretty educated compared to the average person, because hey, they went through, got their masters or how far they went. But then they're like, I'm over it.

Like, pick up a textbook, pick up a book to learn. And you have to lean heavy on that, you know, information that they've learned. And then when it changes, oh shit. Yeah, dude. Now what? Go to school and get a tech degree. By the time you graduate, all the shit you learned the first year.

It's absolutely horrible. It's worthless. Yeah, go try and get in a company. I'll give you a good example. Let's say I go to school and I wanna, I don't know, let's say I want a job that if I graduate, I'll probably make between 60 to $70,000 a year,

which is more than the average. So it's a decent job. But in order to get that job, I need to get this four-year degree, and let's say I go to the best private college, and that four-year degree costs me, I don't know, $80,000. I'm now $80,000 in the whole.

I'm graduating, and I'm making. The math doesn't even make students realize that. And I'm making 60 grand a year, or let's say I go into a vocational school, and I have a passion to be a plumber, a mechanic, a carpenter, or let's say I become an entrepreneur. During that period of time, I'm not going in debt.

I'm not making much in the beginning, but by the end of that four years, I may be at the same amount if not more, except I'm not in debt anymore. In fact, this is becoming a problem with some professions that you normally would think you make a lot of money. You look at general practitioners. Look at general practitioners of medicine. There is a going to be, a shortage of general practitioners because it is not worth the $100,000

that they invest in school to graduate to make a hundred grand a year. It says, it's an add up anymore, and this is becoming a problem. So I think the market's gonna start providing solutions. And again, look, if you look at education, I don't think it's gonna look anything like it looks like now, 20 years from now.

I mean, for fuck's sake, in the palm of my hand, right now I have access to all of recorded human history right now. I can learn almost anything I want for free. Be good to bat and the edge. In my hand. And so that's going to change things. It's already changing things. I think in 20 years, I don't know, this conversation might be very different.

Yeah. There's more of a porn box, I think. Thank you, Justin. A little Christy 22, I'm going to read hers for Baedum. They say the only time you can gain muscle and lose fat at the same time or gain muscle at a higher rate is newbie gains or after a layoff. What about if you train for years but didn't fuel your body then you reverse dieted so

your calories were at a maintenance slight surplus and started full body weight training. Do you think muscle gain will be similar to newbie gains or muscle gain and fat loss could happen? I don't know where to start. Well, there's a lot wrong with this question. Yeah, I don't know where to start with that. Can you gain muscle, let's start with that one.

Can you gain muscle and lose fat after you that one, can you gain muscle and lose fat after you're through the quote-unquote new, you know, newbie gains? Yes, you can. Absolutely. If you send the right signals to your body, your body will burn muscle, excuse me, burn body fat and build muscle. Of course, there are genetic limits. If I've been lifting weights for... I think it's the increasingly harder to do. Well, of course, if I've been lifting weights for 10 years and I've over the course of 10 years put on 15 pounds of lean body mass, I can't just keep gaining muscle.

There's gonna be a point where my body's gonna kind of start to reach its limit. Well, explain why the two things that she says in there that when you're a newbie or you had a layoff and you come back, well, why do those people gain muscle? I mean, it's basically a new stimulus because, it's a new stimulus and you're back, well, why do those people gain muscle? I mean, that's, it's, it's basically a new stimulus because you know. It's a new stimulus and you're starting at such a, such a shitty starting point. You're starting at such a low starting point.

It's like if I lived in a basement, you know, for five years and get no sunlight, I'm going to be very, very, very pale and any amount of sunlight is going to cause a dramatic change in my skin. And if I go and tan properly, I'm gonna look dramatic within the first month, you know what I mean? From before and after, you're gonna be like, holy shit, you look like a different person,

but there's gonna reach a certain point where I'm not gonna be able to get any darker, you know what I'm saying? So that's what the whole newbie gains are all about. Well then she says, what about if you trained for years but didn't fuel your body? So in other words, you trained for a long time, you ate like shit, so you didn't eat the right way.

Then you found out, oh my god, I'd been training so long. I have been overtraining and under-consuming. And so she had to do a reverse diet. So in other words, she slowly probably increased her calories to get her metabolism, probably working better for her. And then so your calories read a maintenance slight surplus and started full body weight trained. Do you think the muscle gain will be similar to the newbie gains? So she's wanting us to compare somebody with a proper firing, working metabolism and system to somebody who is brand new as far as absolutely the games can be the same, absolutely

they can be totally different too. So there's so many other... I've seen some pretty remarkable transformations in people who have hired me, who worked out with the wrong exercise programming, had the wrong kind of diet, either because they just didn't know, or because they followed some, you know, muscle building magazines, advice, or whatever, and they did it for years. Then I switched them to proper programming and proper nutrition. Oh, shit, night and day, man. It's's like boom, you know what I mean? Within a very short period of time,

they see pretty dramatic results. Well, I'm gonna give a shout out to one of my clients that I'm currently coaching right now. She's been with me for, I think about, I wanna say like six months, five or six months now. And she's a good example of what we're talking about right now. So when she first hired me, I love clients like this. I love taking somebody who understands training,

works really hard, understands like what's good food, bad food for the most part, and has just been stuck at a plateau forever. And now her body is responding better than it's ever responded, and we're doing less work. So her Instagram handle is Persian Firecracker. You can look her up and I'm sure you could DM her and ask her some questions of what her journey's been like, but she's a perfect example of somebody who this is exactly what she's

talking about, who wasn't really eating properly. And then now that she's got her metabolism working correct, and you gotta remember, not only she got her food right, but then also she's trained, I have her on maps, and she's training correctly too. So the combination of not eating correctly, and now eating right, and then training correctly is giving her beyond newbie gains. So this person who's been trained- Where is the formula to this? Yeah, so it's, and that's what I meant by absolutely,

you can see as good if not better gains than a newbie for the very first time, but then you could also not see as much, and that should not be indicator of, you're doing something right or wrong, because every case is different, but I feel like the person or the example you're giving us the client that I'm talking about right now is a perfect example, so you can look her up and kind of ask her some questions

if you want to know what her journey is like. Well, so I have a cousin, his name is Gabriel, great muscle-building genes, like the kid just builds muscle very, very easily. And he followed a body part split for a long time and he built a lot of muscle following a body part split. And years ago when I created maps I've been I don't know three years now I told them I said listen you need to try changing your

programming to something like this it's far more it's far superior and so we had a little debate about it and you know because again he's got great genes he's like no man I build muscle gray I don't you know it's not a big deal I said just give it a shot he did he switched and within two months he gained about about seven pounds of lean body mass, which is a lot of fucking muscle. Now again, granted, the guys got ridiculous genes, but all he did was train properly or to have the best type of program or better programming to send the right signals.

I think people don't realize that if you send the right signals for your body, if you feed it properly, it's far less arduous than it is when you don't. It's not nearly as difficult. It's not this crazy grind like they tell you it is. In fact, when your body's working for you, you'll almost, there'd be moments where you'll be in disbelief and say to yourself, I feel like I'm not

almost not working as hard. I mean, I can't tell you how many times, especially female clients I've had, who just constantly overwork themselves in the gym and underfeed themselves. And after a period of three, four months, we get their metabolism humming again, and they're like,

stop, I can't believe it. I work out like one third demand of time, and I'm eating more food, and I'm leaner than I've ever been. I feel like I'm cheating. Like, what's going on? I tell them, look at your your body is working with you now. You're not, it's not fighting you.

And I think, you know, people need to understand that. If you do the right things, your body will change and respond and progress. If you're in a situation where you're busting your ass in the gym and you're barely feeding yourself and you're getting little to no results, examine what you're doing, because the likelihood that you're doing the wrong thing

is very high, the likelihood is that your body, you're fighting against your body, you're not sending the right signals, you're not feeding your body properly. I give the analogy of all these little things that we talk about, it's like having a car and you're wanting to get more horsepower out of this car. And everybody wants to talk about putting a bigger block engine in it, right? That's like

the obvious. But no one likes to talk about all the little things that play a huge role in how that car and how efficient that car runs, like the timing belt and how the, is it oiled up and are the tires evenly matched and, you know, all these little things make a difference in how that car performs, but nobody really talks about the importance of all those little things. It's all put on the, you know, how big is the engine? And how much horsepower are you supposed to have? Well, even though the timing isn't have like a, it doesn't exactly give you 15 more horsepower. If all that stuff is off, the you trying to get the maximum output on that car

is less likely than if you have all those things handled and smooth and running correctly. The same thing goes with your body's metabolism when you're feeding it properly, you're resting properly, you're not over-training it. All these things play a role in your results, whether it be building muscle or burning fat, it all works together. And the more those things that you can get right, then get healthy, the more optimal and

the more ideal your body will run. Well, look here. That's a better analogy than mine. Yeah, well, I mean, look here. I was trying to go with like, screw in a hole. And it was a slightly bigger, you know, but then once you get the right screw, and it screws in the whole right, feels right. Yeah, that didn't make any sense.

Look, look here, look here, you get Adam's talking about cars, you can have a thousand horsepower car and put it on skinny racing bike tires. Yeah, right. And I can beat that with the 200 horsepower car. Exactly. With regular tires.

And that's my point, is all those other little things play a big role. Or you pre-th pre thread the whole and then you get like the right screw and you put it in That's right. We'll just stop Let's keep confusing people. We'll just we'll just stop right at the end of the day. Listen Listen to your body Send it the right signals get good exercise programming maps is a great choice for most people It's going to be superior to what they're currently doing. Feed your body properly and I promise you,

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