Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 407: Fitness Sellouts, Insect Derived Protein, Testing Your PR & MORE

Episode Date: November 24, 2016

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Starting point is 00:00:00 If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. Mite, op, mite, op with your hosts. Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. How was you guys' weekend? Did you guys do anything? I had a crazy weekend. I saw that you had your boy do the robot games or whatever the fuck. A Lego robot, dude. So cool, man.
Starting point is 00:00:22 Is that outside of the school or is that how does that work? It's anything cool like that grown up. Well, they didn't have fucking only they had it work kids, right? Yeah, I mean they had this kind of Lego robotics, but it's it's an extra curricular activity But it's definitely science and programming based and so what they do is they put together they're given a task And they have to compete in teams and the tasks involve lifting objects, moving objects and particular areas that are designated, maneuvering around objects. So there's different tasks, they all have points.
Starting point is 00:00:59 If you touch your robot while it's doing it, they remove points. So there's all these different ways to get penalties. You can in-between tasks, you can change the attachments on your robots, hit a new program and let it go out. So it's pretty awesome. These kids have to really get in there with the programming and the ingenuity with designing the robots. So it was a lot of fun to watch.
Starting point is 00:01:18 So my son did this last year when he was in fifth grade and they went and I had no idea what to expect last year, right? So no idea. So we go to this big tournament, and I went to some of his practices, but I didn't know what these things look like. Dan, they have practices for it and everything? Well, I mean, you can't just program.
Starting point is 00:01:37 You have to program out and figure, you have to write your programs and stuff and design your robots, and then you take your robot with its programs to these competitions. They actually code everything. They're coding. They're a part of a program that they just,
Starting point is 00:01:49 they're coding. Okay, cool. So let's say you're one of the tasks is, your robot needs to move this, and it'll be like a theme. So it needs to move this shark into safe waters, but it has to go over this particular obstacle and around this other one and unlock the store or whatever.
Starting point is 00:02:06 So you have to figure out how to, number one, build your robot so that it can do those things and then had a program it because it has to be autonomous. You have to push a button and it goes, you can't touch it. Wow. Yeah. So I had, so I had no idea what to expect last year and they were the youngest team by far because it goes all the way up to like, I think senior in high school and then there's other competitions for older if I'm not mistaken. God I bet it's just like full of little nerds. Dude, of course.
Starting point is 00:02:30 So that's the thing right? So we go leaders of our world. That's it. You're right. I'm looking at CEOs right here. That's all the fucking stuff. So we go and you have different grades competing in the same competition. So you know here's these little fifth graders competing against eighth and ninth graders.
Starting point is 00:02:44 Oh wow, really? And they didn't do well at all in the competition aspect of it, but they had they had shown such amazing teamwork and enthusiasm, such as love and so much. So good for him to be doing that with older kids and smart like that. So last year they won an award, the judges award. This year, they actually qualified for the regionals. But the thing that I noticed is like I'm walking around this this this tournament and it's like the parents are all like super brains right like it's like sports, but for you know nerd, right? Which is great because I'm like fuck this is going to be totally cool for his employment, you know, opportunities in the future and he loves it. He loves doing it. I get so into it, dude, you should hear
Starting point is 00:03:22 me like yelling and freaking out and get all excited. Fucking asshole. The robot goes. Dude, you should, it's fucking. He's got a little fucking number one foam hand. You know, it's so awesome, right? So there was this one, we gotta get you one of the bumper sticker for your car.
Starting point is 00:03:39 It says my kid, he's your kid at robotics. What do I do? So here's a, so just, just put it the fuck out of that. There was this, so here's the thing, this thing that happened. And by the way, you'll encounter this when you have kids, if you have ever kids, where, you know, it's challenging because you don't want to impose, you know,
Starting point is 00:03:57 on your kid what you think they need to be or whatever. You want to kind of let that bro or whatever. Let's talk about this. Yeah, so I know you have a story, right? So I'm, so I'm watching them, they did their first round, they did a practice round, then they did their first round. So they do three rounds within this competition and the top score is the one that they keep.
Starting point is 00:04:13 So the first round they come out and they fucking kill it. They only have one penalty and they were first place among all the teams. So we're super like pumped, like this is crazy. Like last year, they did so poorly in that particular event event this year they killed it. So we're super excited the kids are excited And these tournaments are long by the way you get there at 8 a.m. You don't leave till like 6 p.m So other teams are going up and then this other team comes up and it's this team of fucking Engineers, okay, like all their dads are super engineers. They have their computers out there tweaking everything. My kids team, like none of us know shit
Starting point is 00:04:45 about this kind of stuff. It's basically the kids doing the work, not to downplay, you know, or make the other team seem like they had an unfair advantage. It's just the way it is. This other team did better than they did. So our kids come out, see the score and see another in second place.
Starting point is 00:05:01 So they have two options now. Option one, they can stick with their original program that they did, but make it, but try to do even a little bit better and squeeze out some extra points and go to safe route, or throw in an extra maneuver, which is very risky, which if they execute, we'll put them in first place, but if they fail, they'll fucking tank, right? So I'm not saying shit. I want to see what these kids come up with. Now I know that strategy is, look, it doesn't really matter because you're to hit your high score in your first round. You're pretty much guaranteed second place
Starting point is 00:05:33 anyway. Going forward, you should just take a chance. That's in my mind. Go for it. You got nothing to lose. Even if you go zero, you still got that first score, right? Yeah. But I want to see what the kids had to say. And you know, it's embarrassing. You don't want to go out, try a new maneuver. You you know, it's embarrassing. You don't wanna go out, try a new maneuver. You're not trying to influence it. You don't wanna go out, do a new maneuver and just fuck up everything because you get all these people watching.
Starting point is 00:05:50 So these kids are like, kind of stressed out about it, right? So they're like, we wanna go, no, no, no, no. We'll do what we did last time. We'll just do what we did last time. That other one's real difficult. I'm talking to my son about it and then my son goes over to him and he's like, guys, let's go for the hard one.
Starting point is 00:06:02 He goes, let's just go for it. He goes, we're gonna, let's do it. I think we can win if we go for it. Like, I'm over to him and he's like, guys, let's go for the hard one. He goes, let's just go for it. He goes, you know, we're gonna, let's do it. I think we can win if we go for it. Like, I'm listening to him, try and talk them into going for the extra, you know, the extra mile, that extra maneuver, the risk. What's, is there a teacher or a coach for them or like, how does that, there is,
Starting point is 00:06:18 but she's very hands off at this point. She wants the team to decide like what to do. Okay. Which I enjoy. I like seeing that. Now, at the end of the day, they ended up not going with it because there were some changes in the actual, not the arena, but the obstacles and stuff that they had to go through and whatever.
Starting point is 00:06:37 But to see my kid and these kids want to push for that, because then all of them were pushing for it to take that risk. Man, I was so fucking proud to see that. Yes. So fucking proud. Anyway, long story short, they qualified for regional. So we'll be doing regional competitions soon. Oh wow.
Starting point is 00:06:53 Pretty exciting stuff. Go back again then, huh? We're going to go back again. And then if they do well in regionals, then they do nationals. And it's a big deal. I think like first place in these, you get like a lot of money for scholarships and you get recognized by big corporations and companies, computer companies.
Starting point is 00:07:09 Some of these kids that do real well, I mean, I'll tell you what, the last time, the last tournament we went to, there were some kids doing just presentations. They weren't in the competition, but they were presenting like their robots that they programmed and shit. And there was this all girls team from one of the high schools.
Starting point is 00:07:25 So it's like four girls. They had designed this entire, this massive robot to do all these different tasks. They, they programmed the whole fucking thing themselves. They're all like 15 years old. They're kids and they're waiting for adults to come up and then they'll sit down. You know, when you go up and look at it, like, would you like me to explain how this works? I'm like, sure. And I'm looking at them.
Starting point is 00:07:41 I'm like, fuck, I'm looking at, Like, whoa. Like, future fucking leaders, man. Right. It's really fucking awesome. But yeah, you gotta watch your kid, watching your kid do sports, or competition, whatever. It really challenges you to, because you don't wanna be that parent, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:07:56 You don't wanna be that parent that makes your kid feel shitty because they're not into what you're into or whatever. You know what I'm saying? I know you said you had something to say. Yeah, well, I mean, totally different kind of scenario as far as that's concerned. Like, I had to really pull back as far as like a lot of my intention, you know, to get my son into sports
Starting point is 00:08:16 and what it was that really drove me when I played sports and what I got out of it is like completely, I wouldn't say completely different because he enjoys it. He likes the camaraderie and he really likes hanging out with his friends. But there's a competitive component there that whether I like it or not,
Starting point is 00:08:40 if I'm on the sidelines, like I'm like on whatever he's doing, I'm watching him and I'm like trying to try my hardest not to just like yell and coach and like give techniques and you know advice and you know and just like sort of inject myself and project myself into him. So you want him to be like super aggressive competitive. I just want him to go for the ball. Which fuck? Which, oh, you're oldest. Yeah. So he, um, and I have him in Taekwondo and he does really well in that because, um, there's a lot of like one-on-one direction and, uh, like attention
Starting point is 00:09:20 as far as that's concerned. Plus, he kind of enjoys it because it's, I don't know, it's a different speed. But like, a lot of his friends play soccer and like, I was actually, what was crazy for me because I had to like help coach one of the games and I realized like, once I got like, involved, you know, how like crazy I could get because like, that competitiveness about me, I haven't really expressed that much,
Starting point is 00:09:46 but when I was there, I was watching him just like, I gave him coaching points and I'm told him what to do and all this stuff, and then he's just like, chilling and sitting there and then he just kind of shuffles back and forth and doesn't go for the ball and just kind of watches it go into the goal, and I'm just like, ah! Like kick the ball and just kind of watches it go into the goal. And I'm just like, like kick the ball. I'm just like losing my damn mind. You know, and I just like,
Starting point is 00:10:16 I was like, oh my God, I have to like focus on something else. I was like, okay, and I just remember because there's like one kid's like, he's the study. He's the one on the team that just fucking you get him in there. You know he's gonna score goals and like keep us in the game. And so, you know, I'm like trying to kind of coach him a little bit more and be like, Oh, okay, good job. You know, good effort. Yeah. You're trying or whatever. And it's just like so hard for me because like, you know, like I was the kid that was on the team.
Starting point is 00:10:40 That was like, I wanted the ball always. I always wanted to score. I was like, like that was like, I wanted the ball always. I always wanted to score. I was like, that was like everything to me. You know, and so I just, I've really had to reevaluate like, you know, my influence and me being there, like how I need to like, how I need to present myself.
Starting point is 00:10:57 So I don't like discourage him or like make it a like, like a horrible experience for him. Cause I really do want him to enjoy it and like move around and like get like, and he slowly kind of got better like as far as, you know, going for the ball and like being a little bit more into the game but like, oh my God, it's like,
Starting point is 00:11:15 it's like, like I start laughing because I was like, oh my God, this is like, I can't even handle this. I had to like go like leave and go to the bathroom for a minute because I was just stressing out. It makes you grow. It makes you grow as a parent. I'll tell you what, I had a total learning experience from this weekend watching my kid do this robotics tournament.
Starting point is 00:11:36 I was talking to Jessica about this and we were talking about how really what you get out of these things that you do as a kid has not has has less to do with what you're doing and more to do with the passion that is behind it. So when a child does something that they're really passionate about, it doesn't matter if it's piano, it doesn't matter if it's, you know, soccer, taekwondo, Lego robotics, whatever, what they get out of it is because of that passion and that will, not only they'll succeed
Starting point is 00:12:07 at what they're doing or do better at it, but it's how much they can apply themselves because they're really into it. And I know that I make my kids do certain things because I want them to do it and my kids want to please me because, you know, I'm dad, right? They want to make their dad happy, but they're not super into it.
Starting point is 00:12:24 You know, I see them. They're there because they like their friends dad happy, but they're not super into it. You know, I see them. They're there because they like their friends or whatever, but they're not super into it. But you still want to challenge them too, as a parent. You want to put it in. You want to expose them. Exactly. You want to expose them, but then when I see them doing something that they're really into, it's an entirely different thing.
Starting point is 00:12:38 Oh, yeah. And it's like, I want, you know, as a dad, you just want them to do what you did, right? So I'm like, I want you to be passionate about this particular thing, you know? And maybe they're not. And you have to check that. You have to put that aside because what they're, the benefit that they're going to get from what they're doing has, it doesn't necessarily have to do with what they're doing as much as it has to do with how they do it, how they do it, the process and the passion that they
Starting point is 00:13:02 have behind it. And really as a parent, one thing I've learned is you got to kind of get behind it, even if it's not your thing, like, you know, like, I look, I consider myself a big nerd too, but I'm not in the programming sense. That's not my thing, like I like learning things like speaking, but to see my kid really get behind that,
Starting point is 00:13:22 and me get excited about the fact that he's really into it. I saw so much benefit in that versus like if I would put him in something else that he wasn't super into. Of course. I think I was still trying to find that. I know he's like, he made you well in that arena. I'm gonna explore that next and I think there's the side
Starting point is 00:13:42 of also having the fitness background and all this that is really crucial for me to sort of And I think there's the side of also having the fitness background and all this that is really crucial for me to implement movement and make that a priority in his schedule in his life. And so, I'm definitely open to moving around and trying different things that are going to resonate better. He definitely enjoys what he does. It's just that he experiences it in a different way than I did. that are gonna resonate better. He definitely enjoys what he does,
Starting point is 00:14:05 it's just that he experiences it in a different way than I did. So, can you tell a difference between the two? Like is one of them? Yeah, big difference. Really? My youngest is gonna be like this maniac. Like he's ready, he's just this like bowl in a china shop.
Starting point is 00:14:20 You know, he's ready. He's totally every, you mean he's you? He's pretty much, that's good as it. Physically mean he's you? He's pretty much. That's good. Physically, he's just like me. I think that was my personality, but like his, like he did, like, it's weird, because then my oldest looks just like me. Yeah. But he's like completely the opposite.
Starting point is 00:14:37 You know, he's like, or he's like more like my wife's, you know, personality as far as the competitive nature and all that. He doesn't really have. But, you know, my youngest, he's a maniac. One thing too, you wanna be careful for is, cause I experience this as a kid myself, is when you say things like that, like if you're talking to your kids or in front of your kids, you're like, oh, this one's a lot like me.
Starting point is 00:14:59 No, I don't say that. I don't say that. The reason it, I'll tell you why, because it's innocent, it's totally innocent, right? You're not saying anything bad. In fact, I mean, obviously, I'll tell you why, because it's innocent. It's totally innocent, right? You're not saying anything bad. In fact, I mean, obviously I know you as a person, you don't love one more than the other or like one more than the other.
Starting point is 00:15:11 You're just being, you're just talking about their person. No, it's just differences. But if the child idolizes you, like, let's say, when you, let's say your boy idolizes you, but he hears you saying that he's not like you, then that can be something that, you know, the child is like, yeah, you know, a challenge. You wouldn't say that.
Starting point is 00:15:26 No, what you want to do is you want to talk about the things that they have in common with you in front of them, because especially if they idolize you, and boys will idolize their fathers, you know, you're their male role model, and you know, they want to be like you even if they're not, you know, I'm saying, because for me and fitness, my father was very physical, very strong, very athletic, I wasn't. And so that was one of my challenges. And my dad was a fantastic dad. I just, you know, without knowing you would hear him say things
Starting point is 00:15:53 like, oh, my boy over here, he's a lot like me. And my son over here, he's more into books and stuff like that. I'd be like, fuck, I don't want to be in, I want to be like my dad. Yeah. So, you know, like I said, it's funny, you know, how challenging he could be to be a fucking parent. Oh, dude. Even if you love the hell out of your kids, you know, like I said, it's funny, you know, how challenging it to be a fucking parent. Oh, dude.
Starting point is 00:16:06 Even if you love the hell out of your kids, you know, of course. And that's why, you know, you want to bury yourself into what they're passionate about, for sure. That's it. You just, you just become that as well. It's not like it's a difference. It's different. Like, I will totally become, you know, a part. And that's also, too, like, we're actually looking from Taekwondo now.
Starting point is 00:16:26 I'm actually gonna try and do Jujitsu with him. And so, like, I don't know how to do it, but I wanted to see if that's maybe something that we both could like, you know, sort of experience from the ground up. So, exactly. Anyway, what the? Ooh, it's the father bird.
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Starting point is 00:17:25 What do you do when your other favorite fitness personalities that you have followed for over five years sells their souls to big fitness corporate products? Whoa. That's right. Right. Two things come to mind when I read this question. Cause I don't know who they're talking about besides us, but
Starting point is 00:17:45 Two things come to mind number one. I'm trying to think who just recently. Well number one. There are people who Definitely sell their you know sell out. Okay. There's definitely those people who start up, you know grass roots. They have a message And then they tend to sell out to corporate interests or business or whatever But I also think that sometimes we judge people because they grow, let me explain. It reminds me of that garage band. You know, or that where you're going with it. Yeah, where they're like, oh man,
Starting point is 00:18:15 I used to listen to that band back when they were small and doing like, and they signed with a big label and they're right. They didn't have the people hate that. And now they sold out and it's like, they're still making good fucking music. They just got big and now you, because you're the kind of person that, this feels producing you. Yeah, and now they sold out. It's like, they're still making good fucking music. They just got big. And now you, because you're the kind of person
Starting point is 00:18:27 that's producing. Yeah, you're the kind of person that feels like you only want to be a part of the thing that nobody knows about. You know what I mean? Like, oh, you know, I know this one. I do this one thing that nobody talks about. And that makes it cool. Now that everybody knows about it, you want to do it anymore.
Starting point is 00:18:39 So sometimes I think it's that, you know what I mean? Yeah. But there are people who I think, definitely, definitely people sell out. I mean, you know what I mean? But there are people who I think, definitely, definitely people sell out. I mean, you know, mine pump is very careful with how we present our information. We're very, very careful in constantly checking ourselves and our egos because I'm not gonna lie to you.
Starting point is 00:18:58 Like, as you grow, as you, you know, we started off with our message of zero fucks, right? That was our message. We're gonna call it out like it is. We're gonna be true to who we are and Then we've grew we grew very big gotten lots of notoriety people, you know, consider us authorities and your ego constantly wants to grow it constantly wants to get big your head wants to get big You want to you know change the way you do things now because now you got to be serious about what you're doing, but we're really good at trying to check ourselves constantly. And I think that's what it takes, you know what I mean? You have to, it's going to, you get to constantly check yourself to stay true to who you are because, you know, for two things,
Starting point is 00:19:39 number one, integrity, you know, integrity is something that's pretty rare in fitness, especially with fitness celebrities. In particular, you know, I can speak of one with a PhD, like to talk about his PhD all the time, who's got zero integrity. We're talking about Jim's to Pony, who constantly says stupid shit. And one even mentioned the word mind pump. Anyway, I'm not going to go on that, a little irritated with him lately. It's just safe, brother. He says, I'm not going to mention it. It's not even a waste of your brain. I'm not going to mention it.
Starting point is 00:20:08 It's not even a waste of your brain. I'm not going to mention it. I'm not going to mention it. It's not even a waste of your brain. I'm not going to mention it. It's not even a waste of your brain. I'm not going to mention it. It's not even a waste of your brain.
Starting point is 00:20:16 I'm not going to mention it. It's not even a waste of your brain. I'm not going to mention it. It's not even a waste of your brain. I'm not going to mention it. It's not even a waste of your brain. I'm not going to mention it. It's not even a waste of your brain.
Starting point is 00:20:24 I'm not going to mention it. It's not even a waste of your brain. It's not growing it anything big. Oh, that's everything dude. And I think that you know with with this question It's like the growth Every business is gonna go through a period of growth. It's like well, how did you grow? You know, and it does matter, you know, and it matters the decisions you make to To acquire this growth and whether it's financially or whether it's just your audience or your influence, you have to stay true to your core values
Starting point is 00:20:51 and whatever the core values are that you create going into the business and you want it to be a reflection of that, even if it's on a larger scale. Well, I think I have a little bit more patience, I think, for people that do this, because one, it's really hard to do. I mean, the boys are saying some stuff right now that I think is true, and it's true to mind pump,
Starting point is 00:21:16 and it's very important to us, but not everybody has that luxury, dude. Not everybody was 35 to 38 years old, have established businesses already have kind of been successful, and then had the ability to start a podcast or a business, you know, viewing their opinions and putting their stuff out there and being able to do what we've done without tying ourselves to a big company to help fund us. I mean, that's tough to do and very, very few people are even in a position to do that. I mean, you might have somebody out there who is a fitness personality that you absolutely love. They've got great personality, they got great information, they give lots of
Starting point is 00:21:59 good content out there, and they end up having to sign with a, and I say having to because you don't ever have to do anything, but they end up signing with, let's say, a big, you know, nutrition or a big supplement company. Let's use like someone like Selicor who we were in, we were in conversation with for a while there. And it's like the same thing that we battle with now. We have the luxury to have refused them. And a big reason why we did wasn't because all of their supplements they sell, there's a bunch on there that we just don't agree with. It's not just because of that. It's because we also knew that we would have to change our
Starting point is 00:22:35 message and that we would have to dance around them. I don't plan to do that at all, but I could totally see working with a company like that, that if they have some products that I use and I stand behind and I think are great and beneficial, but maybe they have things I'm not, and that when you're merging two businesses or two companies, it's really difficult to find another marriage that is just, is absolutely perfect. I get it. Yeah, identical to your views.
Starting point is 00:23:05 And it's not as simple and like marriage is simple, but it's not as simple as just finding one partner and because in this business, most people have to affiliate with two, three, four, five multiple different companies that you're trying to align as many values and views with yours as possible so you guys can grow together and there's nothing conflicting, but in reality, that's really tough to do.
Starting point is 00:23:30 For another example, we just recently shot a series we were hired by the Kettlebell Kings and we did a video series for them, their company that we absolutely love their Kettlebells. I think they're the best ones out on the market. That was a cool little relationship, but I don't know the CEO personally. I don't know what stuff they're into. And like, are you going to write me off as a podcaster because you find out that the CEO is into something really weird or something that's totally, you're totally against
Starting point is 00:24:05 or has political views that are different than yours or mine. Like, fuck man, that's almost impossible to find a company or another person like that, all their values align with you. I think how they deliver that message is important too, because I think I really think that we could have, if we really wanted to, we could have aligned with Cellucore because they do have some products, they do have some things that we've all utilized and we did like. I felt like they are planning in this year, they're going in the direction, I know they created another line where they're using all natural stuff and nose, artificial sweeteners
Starting point is 00:24:38 and dyes. They're going the direction of the market, although they have a bunch of stuff that they carry that is different than what we agree or talk about. I still think we could have worked out a relationship where, yeah, there's things that we talk about and we promote and we would promote on the show, but then there's other things that we just don't, because that's part, they built their business and I can't say, you know what I'm saying? You know what I'm going with this? I don't think that it's fair to really write somebody off because of that. Now Now if they really,
Starting point is 00:25:05 and you said sell your soul, so I don't know who you're talking about. Yeah. If sell your souls means you go, they signed up with shreds. Exactly. Or some MLM company, you know, I'm saying if you're all a sudden, you know, you were this fitness celebrity, and then you'll start going like, oh, it was because I took this supplement while I'm completely shredded and you started marketing and pushing like that. Well, that's a different story, you know. It's, I think it's selling your souls. If you go against your core value, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:25:31 You do a 180 from what you're talking about. Exactly. There you go. The problem with fitness is so much of the information out there is bullshit. So much of it is driven by false science or no science, pseudo science. So much of it is driven to make people feel bad about themselves and that's why you got to buy our product and we're going to promote this particular way of eating because we know
Starting point is 00:25:56 that it's going to make you buy more of our supplements or again, like the character I used the example I used earlier, telling people they need to consume, if you're 150 pound female, you need to eat 300 grams of protein a day. Oh, oh, and you know, it'll make it easier. Five scoops or six scoops of my super giz protein, what the fuck it's called. Like that sounds yummy.
Starting point is 00:26:19 That's delicious. That's the kind of shit that's, that you gotta be careful for, but as companies grow flavor as companies grow they Doesn't mean that they're necessarily selling out. It just means that they're growing. I think sometimes we get so We fall so in love with our the smallness of the peep of the you know the indie you know the indie band or the small You know TV show that nobody knows about or the yeah, you know the the the food the TV show that nobody knows about or the food,
Starting point is 00:26:46 the little restaurant that nobody knows about and it's in the corner. Next you know there's 15 of them. Now it's mainstream, you get detached all of a sudden. Yeah, and now it's like, oh, you know, and I think sometimes things do lose their charm with that. But in our case, I'll say that is the priority. The priority of our mind pump is to remain true to who we are, but I'm gonna be honest with you.
Starting point is 00:27:09 Who you wanna throw? Who we are is in stagnant, either. You know what I mean? My opinions on nutrition have changed. In some cases, very subtly, in other cases, kind of big. Since we first started mind pump, I used to recommend, oh, speaking personally, I used to recommend, speaking personally, I used to tell people to make their own
Starting point is 00:27:26 pre-workout supplements and how to add particular amino acids and mix them together. I don't even recommend people do that anymore. I mean, that's a big difference. We even had it on our site. Which is that being said, I think that flexibility that we give ourselves to grow and evolve.
Starting point is 00:27:40 You have to. I think you should be able to give that same flexibility to a company. So, you know, part of what really intrigued us, like when we were going through negotiation with Cellular Core way back when, and I'm just by the way, I'm using them in the example, we have no intentions of doing anything with Cellular Core whatsoever. No, we haven't talked to them in front of us. Yeah, so I just wanted to use them as an example of, you know, a situation like this.
Starting point is 00:28:01 You know, part of what really intrigued us was we had found out that this coming year that they were going to be moving this whole new, they're creating a whole new line and they were going to be going in the direction of like this all natural and they were looking to get into, into stores like, you know, target and whole foods and like, you know, mainstream market and going towards the health direction and that really intrigued us. And they didn't, they didn't say that they were going to get rid of their other line that they were selling pre workouts and of their other line, that they're selling pre-workouts and, you know, freaking muscle recovery stuff and test.
Starting point is 00:28:29 Test 5,000. Yeah, and test stuff. Like, we don't care about that. We were interested in the direction they were going and we could see ourselves attaching ourselves to that and promoting it and talking about that. And we could have worked out a great relationship. So, you know, whoever you're talking about right now, I mean, I don't know if I would completely write them off
Starting point is 00:28:47 because just because they signed with a fitness product, it's about how they deliver that message. I think that, I think you can keep your integrity still in a line with people. There's a, I do business with a lot of people, and there's a lot of people I do business with. I don't totally like, you know? So there's ways to do that where there's certain things
Starting point is 00:29:05 that you guys see within each other that you respect and just because they don't do everything the same way or have all the same exact views as you do doesn't mean that you can't do good business and do good for people. Here did Tatted Fitness Engineer. Well, what are your thoughts on insect-derived protein supplements? I have yet to try. Very interesting. I'm intrigued by it. I had a little bit of a bar.
Starting point is 00:29:29 I think it was at the cricket protein bar. Yeah, we tried that. I thought it was pretty bomb, I think. It tasted if I had no idea it had insects in it. It tasted amazing. It was a little high in sugar, but it tasted good. Here's the thing with insects. They talk about this being the future of feeding the world
Starting point is 00:29:44 because they require less water. They can be obviously organic, they're insects. Most of the shit you spray on plants is to kill insects. A good gillian of them. You're just spray insects with anything, right? So it can be done organically. They can be grown on waste products from other things like manure. They use less water, so it's better for the environment. It's cheaper, they're nutrient dense. The other aspect of it is the animal lovers usually don't have a problem with insects being raised and killed. Obviously insects are not as cute as furry animals.
Starting point is 00:30:22 They're ugly old bastards. I have no problem with it at all. I just have yet to use them on a consistent basis, but if it's good protein, it's better for the environment, it's probably cheaper, it's got good health benefits. Fuck who cares man, go for it. It's processed anyway, it's processed powder anyway. It's not like you're eating the actual, you know, it's not like I'm taking a live cricket eating it
Starting point is 00:30:47 because that'd be difficult. It's powder, you're not gonna know this. Yeah, it sounds a lot grosser than what it really is. You can't tell a difference, you know. No, you don't know. Yeah, no, you get beaty little eyes you're biting into. I do think that's the drawback of it though. I think it does take quite a bit of sugar
Starting point is 00:31:00 to give it some sort of flavor or taste, right? Does it? To distract you from the fact you're eating insects. I don't know, I think, because we tried the bar, excuse me, the bar. I'm going through puberty right now. No way, man. No way, man.
Starting point is 00:31:12 We tried the bar, but I think bars need more shit to make them more palatable. Yeah, right, if it was like a way, away shaker, or not way wouldn't be way, you know, but if it was like a protein shake. They grind it down, so it's just like a powder, so I mean, you don't even know. Yeah, really? When it happens, if you like take a scoop out and it's like a...
Starting point is 00:31:29 I wouldn't mind trying that. I think it's a nice little way. There's insects in my insect powder. I would love it if it's like, prrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr You know, that'd be an arrest to try it out. You know what's funny too. Hit up, Doug, at admin at mindpumpmedia.com. Yeah, send us some insect powder. You know what's interesting about this too, I'm thinking, there's a lot of food intolerance issues with different kinds of proteins, in particular dairy proteins.
Starting point is 00:31:57 I wonder if there is, if there isn't as many, intolerance issues with insect protein, my guess with the antial intolerance. Yeah. That shit does not sit well. My guess is not. My guess is no. My guess is we probably have less intolerance issues
Starting point is 00:32:15 to insect proteins that we do. Oh, I would guess the same thing to do. Yeah, to other proteins. Because I mean, humans evolved eating the fuck out of insects. Yeah. It's easy food right there. And there's a lot of cultures that still do still do it well not to mention a lot of times when people have issues with like You know lactose or you have certain issues with you know meat and things like that how your body a lot of it Has to do with how that animal was raised and where what it was feeding on and things like that where insects are
Starting point is 00:32:40 Like you said the minimal what they're concerned. I'm thinking about that I wonder if it would be a great protein source for people with food intolerance issues. Yeah, I bet it would. I mean, that would be my guess. I mean, obviously it's not, we have nothing to prove that. So maybe we have to start with somebody letting us try. You know, gluten, yeah, yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 00:32:57 Fit Chris, what are the signs that some foods don't agree with you? Well, there's the obvious ones. The shits right afterwards, that's no. That's what I said. It's a normally a good way to throw up. Yeah, you take a shit, throw up. The bon, how long shall, you know,
Starting point is 00:33:13 does it typically take? I mean, it's pretty instantaneous within the first few hours I would think after you. Those are the obvious symptoms. I'll just say the obvious symptoms are the one you notice right away. Bloting, gas, burping, heartburn. Those are immediate signs that the food you're eating is you shouldn't probably be eating, even if it's a healthy food, by the way. I'll give
Starting point is 00:33:33 you an example, the night-shade vegetables. If I have a lot of them, especially if they're raw, I've ate a lot of bell peppers, it'll cause digestive issues with me. Bell peppers are healthy as hell, but that doesn't mean that they're good for me. So that's the thing you want to keep in mind. It doesn't necessarily mean if a food is quote-unquote healthy, it doesn't necessarily mean it's good for you. Now the less common signals, or the less obvious signals I should say, are the ones that happen later on. And some of these take time, like I can eat gluten-containing foods, and I won't have a reaction or an issue right away, typically.
Starting point is 00:34:10 Sometimes it takes me three, four days of eating them on a consistent basis, like if I'm on vacation, and it's three, four days of eating a little bit of bread or whatever every single day, then I'll start to notice things like a little bit more stiffness and my joints. I'll notice that my skin on my, you know, breakout a little bit on my shoulders
Starting point is 00:34:32 or my back. Other people may notice other skin issues, other autoimmune flare ups, other digestive issues, mood changes. It's a tough process to identify all these subtle signals because they're not immediate. And really the only way to identify them is to eliminate common intolerances for a long time, for like a month, and then introduce one at a time and wait a week with it being introduced to see if you notice anything. I should do that. Yeah, I find it, I don't know, I find it pretty obvious, you know, when you're looking for it.
Starting point is 00:35:08 I think when you're not looking for signs, when you're consuming food, you could easily just not even think about it and you'd be like, oh, that was totally fine. But okay, so for example, this weekend, we celebrated, Katrina and I celebrated our birthdays with our good friends, came in a town, and back to back days, I had birthday cake,
Starting point is 00:35:28 and I totally, totally indulged. And I remember like afterwards, like after I had these two big old pieces, and I remember constantly like taking these big swallows and burping and feeling like I have a bubble in my stomach, and you know, once I got beyond that in pass, like yeah, two, three hours later, I didn't really notice any other signs of inflammation
Starting point is 00:35:50 or something like that. But just even the process of digesting and going down, you could tell my body was just like, it just didn't agree all the way with it. Did I get it down? Absolutely. Did I notice any crazy things that kept me moving for the rest of the day or, you know, made me throw up or they there's no, I didn't do any that crash, but man, I could totally
Starting point is 00:36:08 tell the difference when I was putting something like that in my body versus eating something that was really full nutrient dense and clean and lean. Like I swear that food, my body, I take it in, breaks it down. I don't feel like it's sitting in my stomach. I'm not burping and farting like crazy right afterwards. I don't feel like I have sitting in my stomach. I'm not burping and farting like crazy right afterwards. I don't feel like I have bubbles in my stomach. Those, I think those signs are pretty immediate right afterwards when you consume foods like this.
Starting point is 00:36:30 You know, bloat is a big one that people ignore. I know, especially women, I have, I've had so many female clients that just accept bloat as this is just part of me. I'm going through some hormone thing. No, not even that, just this is the way it is. Like after eight meals, I get bloated. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:44 That is not normal. Yeah. Yeah, you identify what's going on. You should not get, you know, the whole pregnant belly feeling after eating a meal. And if you do eat a meal and you identify that certain types of foods do that to you, that's not a good sign. You should avoid eating those foods. So bloat is a big one because people tend to accept that as not a big deal. Here's another one like water weight gain. If you notice after eating certain meals that the next day you gain two or three pounds of water and it's gone the following day if you don't eat those things, if someone's making you retain that much water it's probably not a good idea either. But skin is one, hair, nails, mood, sleep.
Starting point is 00:37:24 Sleep is another one. How stiff your joints feel. These are all signs. Easy, nice. Exactly. I'm in a great process. Yeah, these are all signs that you want to pay attention to. I, one for me, like I said, with the gluten,
Starting point is 00:37:37 is I'll break out a little bit. There are a little bit on my shoulders and my back. And it's always whenever I eat bread. And it's after about two or three days of eating bread on a regular basis. And I'm not eating a ton of it. It's just if I have some two, three days in a row, sure enough, that's gonna happen.
Starting point is 00:37:52 Well, I think learning to look at the science too of when you're eating good foods, like how good you feel, is connecting those. Because we've talked about this before too, when somebody who eats shitty all the time, they don't realize that they don't feel good, because they don't know what it's like to feel really good from eating really good clean foods on a regular basis.
Starting point is 00:38:09 And I hate using the term clean, but that fuck, it's real. You know what I'm saying? Like there's clean good foods for you and there's shitier sources. Neat strength. Yeah, there's shitier sources of food and when you're choosing those good sources, I mean, this is a lot of what promoted the special
Starting point is 00:38:22 that we're running all month long in November is, you know, we noticed that a lot of people that were getting the bundles and the programs were skipping out on the nutrition guide and the fasting guide and it's something that we heavily recommend. So all month long, we said, listen, if anybody picks up any bundles, so if you buy any of our program bundles,
Starting point is 00:38:40 you have a choice of any guide, absolutely for free. So you can pick the nutrition guide up, which breaks down all these different food categories. So know like these are the type of foods that you should be choosing to eat on a regular basis And there's a huge variety there's a grocery list in there to give you an idea of you know How you should be grocery shopping? There's also a macro counter in there so you can put in all your Information as far as your your weight and what your goals are and I'll spit off You know where you should be calorie wise and macronutrient wise information as far as your your weight and what your goals are and it'll spit off, you know,
Starting point is 00:39:05 where you should be calorie wise and macronutrient wise, you know, then you start following a good plan like this of what your body needs and pay attention to this, how you feel. Pay attention, your sleep, pay attention, all the good signs, and then start connecting that when you go up because it's inevitable, right? We're all human. We're all going to have a birthday. We're all going to have a rough day. We're all going to have a time where you a birthday, we're all gonna have a rough day, we're all gonna have a time where you fall off and you're not eating these ideal foods for you all the time. So pay attention, pay attention. Well, also when you're tracking and going through
Starting point is 00:39:31 that process of understanding, it's not that the amount that you've calculated is the final answer, right? That's not the one, like you have to evaluate how you feel as far as like when you go through that process and keep that in mind, the two go back, readjust, and you'll find that balance that really works well with your lifestyle and how you plan out your meals and everything else. Yeah, I want people to understand, autoimmune symptoms can be very mild.
Starting point is 00:40:00 They can be just a little bit more allergies. That's another one that people don't pay attention to, that their diet can make them more sensitive to environmental allergies or someone might be more prone to getting nuts. That's a great point. I mean, like my psoriasis, it's a huge difference when I'm off like that, and it just, it flares up worse. Like I have psoriasis year-round no matter what. And I notice when I'm eating really good and I'm not falling off, like I'm really
Starting point is 00:40:26 my psoriasis stays suppressed, it stays down. The moment I like from the cake, I mean I'm bad right now, I'm all flared up. I would challenge you to staying away from all food because here's a thing, especially with a larger autoimmune issue like psoriasis, because that's more of a, that's a stronger autoimmune reaction. You've actually been diagnosed now with an autoimmune disease. You know, I'm talking about like the more mild ones like, I'll get hives after a hot shower. I hear some people saying that or more alert. I sneeze more.
Starting point is 00:40:56 Those are mild signs, but the bigger ones like you're talking about Adam, I would challenge you to avoid all, I mean, you have to completely avoid them. You can't even have a smidge of them, completely avoid them for a long time for that, for immune system to reset. Because- Well, that's how I know it's affected because that's what happened. It took, it took, and I've talked about this
Starting point is 00:41:15 on the podcast before. It took months of avoiding sugar. It's went, and that's what, that was one of the biggest things I noticed from the keto-genic diet was, you know, it was very eye-opening for me that those foods, even the most subtle amount inside my diet would keep it from flaring up.
Starting point is 00:41:31 So if I at all introduced it, then my psoriasis would stay up, but it took a consistent amount of time of staying away from the sugars and processed foods, then I noticed it sort of spreads, but it takes time, you know, it's not an overnight thing. And you want to keep in mind, like autoimmune means your immune system is attacking itself, and that is the biggest, one of the biggest health risks that we're looking, we're seeing
Starting point is 00:41:54 now in modern times. It is, they're uncurable by Western medicine standards, and they can, they can progress into horrible things. When you have symptoms of autoimmune issues here and there, that means your immune system is not functioning properly and your immune system has, I mean, it's got the key to long life or very short life. So it's something you definitely want to pay attention to,
Starting point is 00:42:18 even if the signs are small. Happy, healthy, and free. How often should you test your PR? I test my PR. Typically, I might test it at the end of a strength phase that usually lasts about three weeks. Three, four weeks, yeah. Yeah, so if I'm, if I'm in like right now, I just started maps, Annabolic phase one, which by the way, I haven't done phase one, Annabolic, and a long time, oh, forget how fucking awesome it feels.
Starting point is 00:42:50 So I'll probably test my PRs at the end of the third week. But should you test your PRs? I mean, if you want to kind of see me, but you don't have to necessarily test them, you can see if you're getting stronger without maxing out. I went years and years without ever testing my PR. In fact, I didn't really even get into testing my PR that much until actually the three of us all got together because then it became competitive
Starting point is 00:43:14 and trying to chase Sal and the deadlift and just with the squat and bench press. So for me, I didn't even really pay attention to that for a very, very long time. And for me, it really came down to this, like I'm not competing. I can see progress in my body the way it looks, the weight that I am moving, how I'm moving the weight. I mean, you can definitely see if you're gaining strength, gaining muscle visibly and through your workouts without ever testing a PR. So it is not necessary to do that whatsoever. In fact, originally I used to be anti-all that
Starting point is 00:43:51 because I felt like there was this whole, and I really feel like CrossFit did a lot of this because CrossFit is so heavy into maxes and PR and doing that. So I of course took the opposite side, which is I think that's ridiculous, unless you're competing and you need you know, unless you're competing and you need to know, you know, what, and you're competing for a...
Starting point is 00:44:09 Well, when you're weightlifting competing. Yeah, that's exactly what I mean. Like, you're not just like for a sport. Yeah, that's the only time it really, really, really matters because you're placing his dictated base off of your PR. Well, see, that's what I mean with the PR. Like, you don't have to max out. Like, let me give you an example.
Starting point is 00:44:25 If I did, like if I did four reps with a squat, with let's say 275 at a certain intensity, and I maintain that, so I stopped two reps short of failure. And next week, I did it, I did 285 for four reps, but I kept the same intensity. I still didn't go to failure. I didn't max out, but I got stronger. So I can see that I did 285 for four reps, but I kept the same intensity. I still didn't go to failure. I didn't max out, but I got stronger. So I can see that I'm stronger.
Starting point is 00:44:48 So, you know, you don't necessarily need to technically, that's a PR. Right, that's a PR. That's technically a PR. PR stands for personal record. I guess we should have made that clear in case somebody who's listening doesn't know what PR stands for. It stands for a personal record.
Starting point is 00:45:01 Typically people, though, think of that as a single rep. And maxing out. Yeah, like going all out. Yes, and that's the reason why I think I spoke out against it so much because it's not necessary for great programming to see great results. You do not have to do a PR. No, there's still a place for it. I mean, as far as assessments go, In my opinion, with certain sports that will demand a lot of force at that particular moment, so it's a nice tool that you can have to see what effect you had in the weight room and how efficient you are with your lifts as far as the skill is concerned, but making sure that we's like we didn't do that until the very end of our entire offseason workout program.
Starting point is 00:45:49 Yeah, just be clear. And that's something that we utilize more than the average person because a lot of what we do, a lot of times we're testing our programming. Like we design a program and then we say, you know, hey, let's modify this or tweak this and then let's look back at it. So that's part of our job, part of our job and providing you guys with solid content all the time is to be testing and tweaking and doing those things. So you don't have to, you know, our job, our job is to put out a program that if you follow
Starting point is 00:46:17 this fucking program, you're going to be hitting PR. You will keep going forward. You will be progressing and part of us making sure that is kind of testing that on ourselves and manipulating different things. And so I would think that the whole testing your PR is a little bit more important for ourselves to provide something for you guys that's you that you guys can rely on that's going to continue to progress you through your program. But unless you're a high level athlete like like Justin saying, or somebody who is competing in a powerlifting, it is absolutely not necessary whatsoever.
Starting point is 00:46:49 In fact, I wouldn't have anybody who's not advanced constantly to this. This is where I'm going with this. I 100% think that you have to weigh the risk versus reward here. And I'm guilty of this. You know, when you start chasing this PR number, especially when you're doing like a single rep max, and you're so caught up in trying to move up another five or 10 pounds at the risk of possibly being off or having an imbalance or a deviation and you're trying to push through that, the risk of injury becomes much, much greater.
Starting point is 00:47:21 And then you're set back now. Now, now you're're you're not progressing anymore right because you now you have to fix this issue that you just her and and I feel very strongly about this because I've fucking done this to myself now multiple times so I'm speaking like this not because I'm pointing the finger at others and saying like oh he's an idiot for doing that or she's done for doing that I'm saying I was an idiot I've done this enough times to and I know better So I'm trying to express that to you or those that are listening that it is not necessary The only time I've ever been hurt is because of this fact alone. Yeah, like I'm testing myself and I'm doing it at a time that you know really wasn't a time. I should have been doing no What you want to consider is
Starting point is 00:48:03 It regard okay, you could be the most stable, have great form, but what will challenge your imbalances? However, my new and small they are is when you're training to fatigue, and that includes a max. So, if I have the smallest muscle imbalances, this doesn't really present itself when I'm doing my normal sets, but now that I'm going max out balls out, that small
Starting point is 00:48:26 imbalance is going to become glaring and that's what can cause the problems and that's why PRing in that way. Because like I said, you can go for a PR without going to failure. It makes a big difference, but if you go to failure, if you're going for that max, max, max lift, and you have any kind of an imbalance or issue with your movement, it's going to become glaring and your risk of injury becomes much higher. And that doesn't matter whether you do a single rep max or you do, you know, you're hammering things out to failure at 10 reps when you get to that point with that fatigue, things break down and especially with the one rep max, it's breaking down.
Starting point is 00:49:00 You got a lot of weight on your back now, you know, now you're messing your squats off, but rather than having 200 pounds on your back, you've got 300 pounds on your back. Not a good place to be when you're doing that. I'll say the two times I've ever hurt myself or the two ways I've ever hurt myself doing lifting weights was with my either A, a max rep, one rep PR, or B, when I'm going for high reps with a lightweight and I get fatigued in my form breaks down towards the end of the set. So it's really about going to failure and we always we typically advise against going to failure. I'm glad you're just true for that too.
Starting point is 00:49:33 I'm glad you said that because that this is a part of why we speak so much on this. I know that I've seen people recently talking about or referring like they're talking about us as far as you know know, talking about never going to failure and never going. And like, we're not saying that. There's a place for all of that. But as guys that have been training for so many years and so many people, you realize that, oh my god, like the risk versus reward on doing something like that. Sure, you might get like a smidge of more games because you pushed that one time to failure versus going to two reps short, but we're looking at the big picture. The the risk that that person could get set
Starting point is 00:50:11 back because they have a slight imbalance and then now they just aggravated something because they pushed that that heavy of a weight when they didn't need to. Now sets them back, whereas that they would have just kept going along and cutting themselves off two reps before failure, they would see a nice good progression that maybe took them a week a little bit longer to get there because they didn't push their max load. Plus, think about this way. When you're going to failure, right?
Starting point is 00:50:34 Let's say you're going 10 reps, standing shoulder press to failure. Up until eight, rep eight. Now you're getting fatigued, right? You're two reps short of failure. Let's say 10 reps is failure. The 10th rep is absolute failure. Your form is good.
Starting point is 00:50:48 Now think of that last rep. Usually for the most part, the last rep is the ugliest rep because you're failing, right? What kind of signal, what kind of recruitment pattern are you reinforcing now in your body? You're reinforcing a bad recruitment pattern. So you've taken, you might have increased the intensity a little bit and maybe get some benefits sometimes, by the way, not all
Starting point is 00:51:10 the time because you go to failure all the time and your results won't be as good. But let's say you throw it in every once in a while, you might squeeze out next to 2% benefit. It's still not worth it because that last rep is shitty, typically. And that last rep then is going to reinforce a bad recruitment pattern, which then will carry on for the rest of your time. You're working out, whatever. Very few people know how to go to failure correctly. Very few people.
Starting point is 00:51:33 Thank you. It's a big time skill. It is a major skill. And it's one that I think that if I still catch myself breaking down, because when you get so focused on getting the weight up and going to failure, the body is, the body is just going to get the weight up and it will do, it'll leverage itself any way possible. And we know already that leveraging yourself just to get a weight up is not mechanically safe most
Starting point is 00:51:57 of the time. So we understand this. This is why we stress that. And it's not to take away from somebody who's got a a perfect form understands how to go to failure and you know intermittently puts that into their routine. That's awesome. Each one of us utilize that and do that too, but we like to speak to the majority. Yes, think about the two things you're asking upon your body, right? So number one, remain in perfect form. That's the
Starting point is 00:52:20 first thing you're asking your body, but you're also asking it to move this fucking weight and move it now and this is the and use up all your reserves to do it right? So now you're asking two different things one is perfect form the other one is move the fucking weight at all costs Well, I I hate to tell you this but one one of those has to is gonna is gonna win if it's if it's the You know go just fucking move the weight at all costs your form goes down if it's the you you know, go just fucking move the way to the cost, your form goes down. If it's the, you know, form that takes precedence, then you're not gonna move it at all costs. You look, I'll tell you what, as a trainer, I would see examples of this all the time,
Starting point is 00:52:53 without even going to failure, I'll have a client do a shoulder press, standing shoulder press, as they start to fatigue, you know what they start to do? They come up on their toes. Those you personal trainers listening, know exactly what I'm talking about. Why do you think your client is coming up on their toes
Starting point is 00:53:06 at the top of a shoulder press when they start to fatigue? Because their body doesn't understand form. Your body understands movement. All it knows is... You're gonna go higher. That's it. All it knows is I'm trying to get this dumbbell high and oh fuck, my elbow won't straighten, so I'm gonna come up on my toes.
Starting point is 00:53:19 Your body literally... This counts. ...is telling itself to do things to move that weight in the direction you're looking to move it. So, if I'm going to failure on a deadlift or squat or a bench press or a row or whatever, Literally, this counts. It's telling itself to do things to move that weight in the direction you're looking to move it. So, if I'm going to failure on a deadlift or squat or a bench press or a row or whatever, that's what it takes.
Starting point is 00:53:30 It's a great point that you made though, because it's, what are you teaching your body? You know, are you teaching your body that whenever you're under this kind of like extra demand of load and stress, are you gonna go revert to old ways that, or like these other systems that will just get you through that movement, or are you like mastering
Starting point is 00:53:51 the process of like how to move the weight, and then seeing the limitation of that as far as, okay, if my form breaks, it doesn't count. Exactly. Listen, those programs that Adam talked about earlier, the bundles while we're giving away the nutrition guide and the fasting guide, you can find those at mindpumpmedia.com. This entire month, you can pick any guide
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