Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 412: How to Workout Anywhere, 9 to 5 Workout & Diet Strategies & Weekday vs. Weekend Eating

Episode Date: December 2, 2016

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Starting point is 00:00:00 If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, please only one place to go. Mite, op, mite, op with your hosts. Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. Alrighty, you know what? Pretty excited. It's Christmas month. Merry Christmas. This is such a... I love this time of year. Are you guys... Are you guys festive dudes? Are you guys like, uh, do you guys get into you guys get into slowly becoming one again? You know? I've got my jingle bells on I'm kind of like I am I will admit so I have I have some female tendencies besides just painting my toes
Starting point is 00:00:34 Whoa the other one is I do love here comes I do love to decorate Oh, thanks the adjoe right I do it's just weird weird. I know I haven't I haven't put my finger on it What it is that makes me like but I enjoy? I enjoy getting like the house looking all festive You know like we are literally the day or the kind of the day after Christmas We went and got the tree the and are all the Christmas stuff is up like you come in my house And you drink like you look like you're not in the North Pole when you come in my house Like you guys are you have fake snow whenever right away. I'll hand you a cup of eggnog if you like.
Starting point is 00:01:07 Yeah, you know, that's just egg yolk nog. There'll always be a little fire that the crackling fire log that will be burning inside my fire purse. Yeah, no, it's just that's roasting. They'll always, I'll have music always playing the background of Justin Beaver's Christmas. So in the spirit of the holiday, Beaver? Yeah, he said Beaver or Beaver. In the spirit of the holiday, we want to- Not the spirit of the holiday, Bieber? Yeah, he said Bieber or Bieber.
Starting point is 00:01:25 In the spirit of the holiday, we want to- Not the spirit of the holiday, because we just talked about maps anywhere. Well, we did, in this episode, we're gonna talk about maps anywhere. Somebody asked a question. And we never talked about the poor stepchild.
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Starting point is 00:02:21 We're bad people. I think that's what you think. Yeah, you know, I think, no, I'm just kidding. I don't like this guy. You know what you find? I can think of a decent person. No, you know what you find? So, I don't know, this is my own personal observation. Which is normally wrong. That, that, when I hang out with,
Starting point is 00:02:37 so I've trained lots of surgeons, doctors, strippers, no strippers, I've never trained, I think once I trained strippers. You've never trained a stripper? You've trained a stripper? One about this. Wow. When I trained people,
Starting point is 00:02:49 what a waste of time. She would moan during curls. In particular, feels, when I trained people in particular fields, they tend to have like horrible sense of humor. Like doctors and surgeons, people who work in emergency rooms, they laugh about the work,
Starting point is 00:03:03 like the shit that you're like, oh my god, I can't believe you're laughing. And comedians have the craziest sense as a humor. Like the laugh and make sure to go for the n' everybody else. I don't know, I think. I feel like that's an exercise. I don't know, there's a shock out of you. I agree, you think so?
Starting point is 00:03:18 I mean, Doug would be the best person to ask that. I would feel everybody out. I would think that would be exactly, I think that would also be like a challenge. You think like, we're trying to make you be able to pursue through this joke without letting all the, kind of what's the word I'm looking for. Being a pussy. No, no, no, better word for that. But we'll use that as
Starting point is 00:03:49 a lack of a better word. So I think that that's the thing that they do is they challenge themselves to go further and deeper and push those boundaries while trying to be funny. I think that takes it. I think that I want to tackle on dark topics, you know, and I think that if they can, if they can make a horrible fucked up situation funny, then that's like a total winner. I think, well, you know what I mean? Laughing is a huge stress reliever. I mean, like, I don't know. I don't know about you guys, but I've been in situations where like I shouldn't find humor and what's, I shouldn't laugh. And maybe because I'm not closely tied to the situation, but for whatever reason, it's like,
Starting point is 00:04:30 and I think it's because it's a stress relief. Like I've been at, I practice this. I literally, this is a strategy that I literally practice. When I get so like, lily like frustrated because of just, shit is going wrong and just, it seems like just one thing after I
Starting point is 00:04:46 Little laugh about it. Yeah, like I'll literally like I'll be so frustrated inside But I'll be looking at Katrina and I'll just like burst out laughing and she's like what's so fun I'm like I'm just dying on how like more this day could not be more fucked up and like more things couldn't go wrong It's just hilarious that it's all happening like this. I don't know man It's just yeah, I'm the worst. You have to. I think you have to. I'm more healthy than rage and punting that off. Right, because what's done is done,
Starting point is 00:05:10 and there's certain things that are uncontrollables, and a lot of the situations like that that happened to us in our life are uncontrollables, or things that maybe we could have controlled, but they've already happened, I should say. Well, I know that. You can't do anything about them anymore. Well, I know that sense of humor is closely tied to intelligence, especially in men.
Starting point is 00:05:30 So they find that. Is that really true? Yeah, it is. That people who can make people laugh and, you know, have a, you call a good sense of humor, tend to be more, have better social intelligence. And men, and say men in particular, we can't. Let's see those studies because I feel like there's two major camps with humor and comedy. Like you either have that. Oh, dude, come on.
Starting point is 00:05:53 You know how intelligent comedians are? Well, we'll be able to deliver. That's what I mean. Some of them are though. I feel like there's also this brand or a genre of comedy that is just like stupid humor, right? That takes, that's just like, yeah, but that's stupid as it is.
Starting point is 00:06:06 It's also, could be brilliant. Get it? Because I don't think, not anybody can get up on a stage or in front of a camera and do something stupid and be funny. Yeah, no, you're right.
Starting point is 00:06:16 Most of the time, it just comes across from, there's, I mean, some of my favorite comedians. I mean, you think of like a Robin Williams type of personality. Those guys are in George Carlin. Like, those are like, those guys are very intelligent, you know, intelligent Joe Rogan. Like these guys are all really smart dudes on top of both. Yeah, I mean, I think both are good. I get to remember, dude, don't forget. I like stupid humor. I like slapstick stuff. I like, you know, physical comedy, but I also like to be challenged. I like people
Starting point is 00:06:46 that pursue dark topics that they can make it funny. I really respect that because if you can make a lot of people laugh about a really uncomfortable thing, I feel like it's a talent. You're 100% correct. A sense of humor is something that we evolved over time. There is a difference between men and women. Generally those individual variances can be massive, but on a general basis, if you ask women to rank traits that they find attractive in men, sense of humor is almost always one of the top traits. It's like top five. Sometimes it's number one. Many times it's top three. When you ask men that same question, what traits they find attractive in women,
Starting point is 00:07:28 essentially humor doesn't usually fall within the top. I don't know, the guys that are like, my girls gotta be funny. Yeah, no, I just, yeah, smart. I enjoy that my girls is witty and funny, but it's not like a recommendation. It's not required. And, you know, of course, scientists,
Starting point is 00:07:41 they have these are theories, but they think the reason being is a man who has a sense of humor Probably held some higher status in society because of it. We've always valued that you know We always place a value on people that can entertain us and make us laugh in fact Kings and Queens used to have a court jester for fuck's sake We're just that's all your job was to do is make me laugh and because of that kill him because of that play Because of that higher place in society,
Starting point is 00:08:05 they're probably more able to provide resources and all those different things. So women for a long time value that sense of humor. And since a humor is a form of social intelligence, being able to make people laugh and people to joke around and break, you know, stressful situations down, that's a talent. That's a talent. And it's also what you can develop.
Starting point is 00:08:26 It's probably one of the most attractive qualities you find in both men and women, right? Like when I meet somebody, like I... It's part of charisma for sure. Yeah, right away I'm drawn to a person that, you know, has humor and wit, you know, especially when it's like quick, you know. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:41 If you're quick and it's intelligent humor or like if it catches, if it gets me, sometimes I like, oh, I didn't even get that over. I didn't even go bare, like that was so quick. That was money that you just came up with that. So now knowing that, right? So now knowing that, or, you know, kind of makes sense, right, that sense of humor
Starting point is 00:08:57 is a type of intelligence that the more intelligent someone is in that particular realm, the more abstract they're able to take that sense of humor. Does that make sense? So if you're kind of a basic, you know, I don't know, for lack of better term, basic intelligence when it comes to your social intelligence
Starting point is 00:09:14 and your sense of humor, then you're only able to go so far with your sense of humor. You're only able to go so far with your jokes or only able to laugh at so many jokes, but the higher your social intelligence, the higher your sense of humor type intelligence is, the more abstract you can take it, the more you can laugh at things
Starting point is 00:09:31 and maybe you're not supposed to, or maybe you'll seek more novelty out and laugh at things you're not supposed to, because there's that novelty. Well, that makes a lot of... Shock factor. That makes a lot of sense, because we just recently talked about insecurities
Starting point is 00:09:41 and how that influences behaviors and things like that. So I could see that if you have, if you don't have very good self-awareness, you have a lot of insecurities that affect your behaviors, you also allow outside sources and people's jokes and things that they say to affect your emotions. But it's gonna offend you more.
Starting point is 00:09:59 Yeah, like what it does to me, like you could pick apart my race, you can make fun of me in all these different ways and like it won't face me. In fact, you can pick apart my race, you can make fun of me in all these different ways and like it won't face me. In fact, I'll probably laugh with you, you know, because especially if it's really good. Like if you get me and it's really good and even if it's so racist and wrong, like inappropriate, like politically incorrect, if it was intelligently delivered to me, I'll enjoy it. You know, it's funny too.
Starting point is 00:10:23 What's funny is that real hateful things are not funny. Like if someone makes that something, that's actually, and it's a hateful and you can kind of, you can read it and tell. You can seal it. Then it's, yeah, then that's not funny at all. It's only funny when it's not meant for you. So there's, okay, so there's a good intent. Where, now where is that, like, the person who's delivering it
Starting point is 00:10:41 and the person that's receiving it? Because I feel like that's what the people who don't find humor and like, so you were just reading Instagram posts that was like totally wrong, but we all laughed, right? And somebody else would read that and be completely offended by it, but yet we found humor in it.
Starting point is 00:10:57 So is it the person who's delivering it, are they completely coming out of hate and that we just, or? I think it's a personal thing. For me, it's very difficult for me to get offended. And it have to kind of know the person, no words coming from, but it's a personal thing, right? What I might consider offensive,
Starting point is 00:11:15 someone else might consider not offensive. Look, there's cultures where, you know, you might find a woman who's worried as a fendient. What does a fendient? Short, short, offensive, and I'm not going to do. What does a fendient? Can you think of something right now? That will be offensive to me
Starting point is 00:11:25 yeah yeah what what would offend you um child molasses well well wow I hope so well you know see now we're laughing about it I know I think if people make I there's definitely there's definitely jokes or or areas that you if you joke about it like okay like I'll put it this way. If a horrible murder just happened and you're joking about it, it's a little too soon sometimes. If it happened like, you know, while ago when you joke about it,
Starting point is 00:11:51 then you know what I'm saying? Then maybe I can laugh about it. But it's hard to say, I don't know. I'll know when I see it, right? Well, that's why I was asking you. Yeah, I feel like that. Because I was, why you're sending an air explaining that I'm thinking to myself, like,
Starting point is 00:12:01 God, when was the last time that somebody did like, really offend me? Like, what do I, what, what offends me? And I'm thinking to myself, like, God, when was the last time that somebody did like, really offend me? Like, what do I, what, what offends me? And I'm trying to think, and then, then go further and go, like, well, is that because, like, I think the last time I, I felt offended, I think it was a result of my own insecurities. You know, okay, so here's a good example. You're right. 100% right on that in terms of my opinion. Here's a good example of that, right? So right now, recently, there's been this debate about, because this is something, I'm about to say something that is going to trigger some people and other people are going to be like, whatever.
Starting point is 00:12:38 You've got people burning American flag, it's been happening for a long time and it's part of their like expression or whatever. And you've got some people like Throw those fuckers in jail kick them out of the country if they're like and you've got other people like whatever It's just a you know to them. It's not it's their flag. They own it. They can do what they want with it Just don't take mine off my lawn and do the same thing type of deal for me I don't get offended when I see things out don't really they're not doing anything to hurt anybody or myself And if it's their own property
Starting point is 00:13:03 It's almost impossible for me to get a fendin'. That's one of those situations. Instead of being offended, I tend to think someone's an idiot, you know what I'm saying? Like someone makes a joke or an opinion and they're not hurting anybody, they're just saying something, they're not physically injuring someone, they're not stealing from someone, they're just,
Starting point is 00:13:17 whatever, I'm not offended, I'll just be like, well that's an idiot. Oh, you're not my friend. Yeah, you're just stupid, but, you know, say what you're gonna say. Yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? And that goes through with jokes or, you know, someone can make a comment to me and I'm, you know,
Starting point is 00:13:29 I'm just like, well, that's an idiot. Yeah, you know, I'm not offended because then fucking hurts. Words, not hurt me. I recently, the last time I felt offended by somebody, it was because I was undervalued for something. And when I thought about that, like, why am I getting so upset or offended by this? Like, this is just an insecurity that I have.
Starting point is 00:13:46 We talked recently on a podcast, how what our insecurities are. And I know that my intelligence level or what I bring to the table, that's always been something I feel like I'm always trying to prove myself. And so I know that's my insecurity. And so then I run into a scenario like this that happened recently where I felt undervalued and I'm frustrated inside, which is make me want to voice something that I have to catch myself and step out of it and go, oh wait a second, should I be really offended about this? People are people, they're not,
Starting point is 00:14:21 why should I expect them to think that way and to process that way? And maybe they are, they're just not, like, maybe this is to think that way and to process that way and maybe they are they're just not like Maybe this is really more about me and my own insecurities And I think it's clear to like I have to be clear You know, of course you can be offended I think I'm coming across like if you you're offended over things like that your idiot No, no, of course you have the right to be offended and feel Emotions over something I think when people take it to the next level, where they want to ban things
Starting point is 00:14:46 that they consider offensive or make laws. It goes back to the intent, like you were kind of getting after as far as like the person that's delivering it. Like you know whether like what their intent is and their message is, like if the person, you can get a sense for, you know, if it's light-hearted or if it's not something that they're actually projecting out that they're, I'm trying to hurt you with this message, you know, versus, so somebody that is doing that and they are trying to hurt you, you know, by burning the flag, it strikes home for you, you know, that sucks, and you get offended. But at the same time, you gotta let people express themselves.
Starting point is 00:15:24 It's a tough thing because I can completely understand how situation like that would be offensive to somebody, especially if you are in the military or you've lost people in wars. And to me, when I see something like that, it even makes me cringe. But I realize that allowing what people do when they're not hurting anybody and it's their own property, whatever. It's like to give you your power. It give them power.
Starting point is 00:15:46 Give them your power away. You lose power with that. I'm like, I just let that person affect me. Exactly. And when I could just turn around and ignore that idiot and then just go about, you know, go talk to them. That's exactly what I'm saying, like, right? I mean, I know that, you know, as much as I think in my head
Starting point is 00:16:00 or I'm processing that, oh, this is wrong or unfair, or whatever, like, you know, I go like, well, allowing myself to get caught up in that and respond to that, you know, is only, it's only giving my power away like that. So, it's- And at the same time, like, I don't- I don't-
Starting point is 00:16:14 At the same time, the whole, you know, I'm not a believer that you should keep your mouth shut. If you really feel something, you wanna say something, look, you know, we're the first people, if anybody in the industry says something about us, we tend to get on the show and light them up. Wow, that's a good point though. Okay, so how about the evolution of that as you've grown, right, and just business and in life, right? Learning how to, and this is something I feel like a skill that I continue to try and sharpen is when that when you do get offended when you are putting those situations and
Starting point is 00:16:45 You're also somebody who believes in speaking candidly and coming in for and like in presenting the raw truth and being straightforward about things How do you do that like in a very crafty artful way like and I and you know I was I'll never forget my buddy was at the first one You know mark years back that would always like catch me in moments like this because we work together and you say, listen, think desired outcome. Like what do you want to happen from this conversation? And what you're about to say or do is that the best approach to get the desired outcome? I mean, if you're if you're desired outcome is just to piss the other person off and get into a fight with them, then by all means, voice your opinion like that and say what you're gonna say, but know that you're not gonna get anywhere,
Starting point is 00:17:27 like you're not gonna get that person to do what you want them to do or receive it the way you want them to receive it by coming after them, attacking them. So, you know, that's definitely a skill set that I think is very valuable for everybody to learn and continue to progress in, is that, okay, when moments like this happen, what is my desired outcome? What do I want for this person to take from this? And if I want them to get across, them burning the flag or them saying that
Starting point is 00:17:55 or under-value me or whatever this thing that has offended me, if I want them to feel that, how do I deliver that message without turning them off and turning it into a disagreement argument? And I think that's a major skill. That's a difficult, yeah. That's difficult. It's definitely, I find asking more questions opposed to responding as it is. Helping them a bit more.
Starting point is 00:18:16 Yeah, like probing more, like, for example, like if something like that, someone burned a flag and I was offended, like I was like, what the fuck? What were the steps that led you to this? Exactly, instead of me saying something like, you're a fucking idiot, offended. Like I was like, what the fuck? What were the steps that led you to this? Exactly. Instead of me saying something to you, like you're a fucking idiot,
Starting point is 00:18:27 why would you do something like that? You're ignorant, you know what I'm saying? And like making a big deal like that. I would like, and that's inside, maybe it's going on, I catch my breath, and I say, you know, I'm just curious, why would you do that? You know, what made you choose to do that?
Starting point is 00:18:39 Like, okay, and then when they answer that, I would go deeper into that question more and really challenge that question. And you might end up just leaving going, okay, they're still an idiot. Yeah, exactly, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, and then when they answer that, I would go deeper into that question more and really challenge that question. And you might end up just leaving going, okay, they're still an idiot. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah, 100%. And a lot of times it does happen that.
Starting point is 00:18:51 But then a lot of times too, you help that person figure that out and go like, wow, that was probably, what am I really doing here? Yeah, what am I really doing here? Maybe I didn't even think about it that much. Yeah, because you can keep asking questions to eventually lead to the question that you really want to ask, which is, did you think that would be, did you think by doing that, you were going to accomplish something, or did you think more that you know I'm saying, like really getting them to?
Starting point is 00:19:11 Yeah, that kind of brings me to point two that, like I feel like a lot of being offended is just a knee jerk reaction. It's a reaction. You know, that might be a lot of people's first response, but then they have to to really decide whether or not they are defended by it. It's almost like a social thing that like, well, I have to be offended by this.
Starting point is 00:19:32 Well, I feel like it always, at least I'm trying to think of a situation where it wouldn't. I think it always kind of, it still goes back to the insecurity. It goes back to, I hate to use, I'm so, I don't like the idea that you use the flag
Starting point is 00:19:45 as our example. That's definitely a sensitive one to get to, but fuck it, we'll go there. So maybe the person, and I'm sure I'm gonna fin, fucking somebody, but like here, you know, you have to look in yourself sometimes. Maybe it's somebody who served for our country and feels like they don't get the respect they deserve
Starting point is 00:20:00 and they people don't do it. And then they see someone like that go out of their way to disrespect the flag like that. So they fucking get pissed off, which they rightfully have their right to be able to do that. But then really what's causing them to get so angry is the insecurity that they feel that people don't value them. They're undervalued or they feel like they are always
Starting point is 00:20:21 having to tell people that, oh, I did this. And nobody gives any respect to veterans or no one does this and then somebody goes out and does them with that And that's just like icing on the cake. This motherfucker fuck him. You know, I'm saying like but really Corvids yeah, yeah the core of it if you reach but if you look all the way back what causes you to be so angry about it Is that you have an insecurity about something and like I said I hate to use the flag thing because that's a well I mean, I mean apply I feel like it applies to anything. When you live in a free society, you have to, this just comes with the territory. It comes with the territory that people are going to say what they want and they should
Starting point is 00:20:54 be able to and you're going to say what you want back to them and you should be able to. Nobody should force anybody. There shouldn't be force. You shouldn't make a loss and you can't say that or you can't destroy your own property or whatever You shouldn't be able to do that and you got to consider this like the freedom of speech Does not exist to protect popular speech like that doesn't need protection It literally exists to protect unpopular speech
Starting point is 00:21:18 So that includes a whole host of shit that nobody that's probably offensive to most people. I mean, you got KKK rallies, you know what I mean? I'm 99% of Americans see a KKK rally and think you guys are fucking idiots. What the fuck? What are you doing? But, you know, you have to let that all happen because if you start to block and, you know, then who determines what's, you know, I mean, at some point, what you're going to say that maybe unpopular becomes something that we accept later on It wasn't that long ago for example that gay marriage was not Supported by most Americans wasn't that long ago at all at all you go at 30 years and the vast majority of Americans were V immediately opposed to it and so it's very unpopular to you know have gay pride parades and stuff like that But we allowed them and of course now
Starting point is 00:22:04 You know popular it's much more popular to support it and it's shifted have gay pride parades and stuff like that, but we allow them, and of course now, you know, popular, it's much more popular to support it and to shift it. So you have to allow for free speech, even shitty speech, even stuff that you're just most of us are going to look at, like I said, the KKK rather, like most of us are looking at that going, well, you're, you're a fucking idiot. Yeah, you're a great guy. But you got to, you got to let support their ability to speak out. And so the whole, you know, getting offended thing, it's everybody's right, too. I just don't like the whole forcing it,
Starting point is 00:22:28 but as far as sense, I don't know how we got here based on sense humor. Sometimes you got it, yeah. That would be so hard. That would be real dark, yeah. Well, no, I think, you know, I think it's, it was an interesting thought, and I think that it would took the direction that it was stemmed
Starting point is 00:22:42 from that stem from, from humor. And is humor something that uh... is something to that we use a front are those people really intelligent and that do they mean harm when they say shit like that that is seems inappropriate you know is it can it just be funny and do we have to be offended by it i mean there's i don't know let's uh... i think we should summon the patriotic... Yeah. Chwa Eagle. Oh, shitty as a flag. I love him. We call...
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Starting point is 00:23:45 Yeah, we haven't talked a lot about the- I feel like the know-it-for-the-step child. I feel like poor old maps anywhere is like the red-headed stepchild in our program, which is really funny because the reason why we created it, because the number one market is at home training. Like that's literally- Yeah, that's what you would start with.
Starting point is 00:24:04 Yeah, and I remember what made us do it. I, you know, it was an episode way back when and we were just kind of, we were talking shit about all that stuff. We were just like, oh my God, these, you know, insanity and P90X workouts and these generic high intensity workouts to get shredded in 69. We were just tearing them apart as far as they're so gimmicky. And nobody really has a good
Starting point is 00:24:26 At-home program where like it's actually a thought-out program and it's it's ideal For most people and just like any of our other programs. We encourage you know flexibility There's a lot of flexibility within it as far as a level so somebody that's Much older and isn't super active and go to a gym on a regular basis could most certainly go through it And then the the super intense traveling person that does like that it insanity type of workout. There's elements of that in there So, you know, you know the at home workouts When we look at them Most programs have pretty bad programming to begin with the whole at home ones are the worst
Starting point is 00:25:04 Yeah, for sure. Absolutely worst when it comes to programming. And there's a myth that you can't really get great results without lifting weights or using machines and stuff like that. And it's a myth. You can get phenomenal results training at home. You just have to have the right programming. You have to have things put together properly.
Starting point is 00:25:23 You have to phase your workouts properly. And we incorporated, you know, AMP sessions, which is unique to Maps Anywhere, which are designed to give you the flexibility to take the intensity up as high as you want. Some of these maps, anywhere AMP sessions and workouts are going to be some of the most intense workouts. Very challenging. You've ever done, if that's your level. Yeah. And the results people have gotten with this, the people who have bought the program and done it are phenomenal. I've gone as far as to say a Maps Anywhere workout
Starting point is 00:25:54 is superior to a regularly programmed gym workout because the programming is done so well. And you have to consider this when it comes to bodyweight exercises, because Maps Anywhere doesn't utilize any equipment. If you want, you can use a stick and bands with it. But otherwise, it's equipment free. Your body provides quite a bit of resistance. You just have to be more creative. And some of the best exercises you can do involve no outside weights. It's all your body weight. Right. Using gravitational forces and you're in your body and specific angles to really
Starting point is 00:26:26 up the intensity. And it's what I like about body weight training, which we never really get into, is just how much more connected I feel in my movement and the strength and all of my movement. And you just really start to understand your force output and where you are as far as proprioception and just figuring all these little micro adjustments out. You don't really have the time to really focus on what your body is completely doing in that movement. And that's what I love about body weight training.
Starting point is 00:27:02 And this is something that we definitely incorporated. And then we also intensified it. And we showed you like really unique ways to add this really challenging workout. Well, let's get into a little bit more detail of, because I think the AMP sessions are what is so breakthrough and awesome and creative that we did here. Toilet's patting ourselves. We are so awesome, so cool and so smart. It sounded really fucking bad.
Starting point is 00:27:32 I think that we'd ball-seek in it, but you know, I'm sitting here and I'm forgetting that we haven't talked about maps anywhere in so long and it's actually a fucking really cool program. I just most of we have access to a gym, 99% of the time. When we travel, I definitely incorporate maps anywhere, but it's one of those programs that we kind of made and then we were on to the next thing
Starting point is 00:27:55 and we didn't talk a lot about it. And the AMP sessions are what we're so cool. And I remember all of us when we took that trip to create that, we didn't know for sure what it was going to look like. In fact, I believe we were heading there to do something else originally and it created, we ended up creating that. And when we started doing it, we all agreed like, okay, when we do this, maps anywhere, like how this is to me is the widest group of people that will really choose this. Cause there's people at home that could be like
Starting point is 00:28:24 60 years old that really don't work out very's people at home that could be like 60 years old that really don't work out very much. They've got to be able to utilize this tool. Then we have the like traveling businessman or woman that's like hardcore workout, but then they want to use this like when they're traveling away from their gym. Like now how do we create something that those are two
Starting point is 00:28:41 totally different people that we would train differently? We did both. It was a really like crazy contrast between trying to address like a lot of postural deviations and things that we see and in clients. So like at your your base level like somebody that's just coming in at the beginning like what are like some of those things that strike out to us the most. And so we programmed that in as far as like your foundational type workouts, but then we added this option to really then intensify it.
Starting point is 00:29:11 So then we can get somebody that's a little further along or even your beginner can kind of flirt a bit with going more on the immediate side. But we added that ability for you to really then ramp it up when you need to ramp it up. Here's a thing that we need to talk a little bit about because you started going a little bit on in regards to body weight exercises.
Starting point is 00:29:33 There is a unique quality that you gain from manipulating your body with exercises versus manipulating weights around your body. It's a very unique quality. Okay, I'm glad you said that. Now, let's talk about why that is also a huge gimmicky reason why so many people market and sell to that. Because this is something that is like everything else that we talk about in the fitness
Starting point is 00:29:57 industry is. So, if you've got these body weight people and if you're like a body weight guru, like because they're out there, those guys will spit the science out on you all day long on why it's superior. And there are reasons why it's very good for you where Sal is about to go. I know where he's going right now. I just wanna make it clear that, you know,
Starting point is 00:30:16 it's just like anything else, it's like mobility, it's like aesthetics, it's like all these things, people put themselves in camps and The because there is great science supporting how awesome it is for you to do full body type movements Well, I'll tell you body weight because the body when you think about it was intended to work that way It was intended to do that when we started creating machines and putting you in stationary positions like where your your body is Being supported by something else, that's really not how our body is intended to work. Well, I'll tell you what.
Starting point is 00:30:48 All of our muscles work together. I'll tell you what. You get benefits that are distinct and superior with different forms of training. And I can say this confidence that, first of all, the guys in this room, we neglect adjustments, probably the best at utilizing body weight training. I've utilized it in the past and I don't as much anymore, I've neglected it. And so we don't get the benefits of them,
Starting point is 00:31:12 but we should, we should go out and do more of these things because training with body weight gives you distinct specific forms of strength, stability, and coordination that you simply do not get with weights. You simply don't. You don't get the same effect with a standing heavy military press that you would with a handstand pushup.
Starting point is 00:31:34 You just don't. Now, is one better than the other? Depends on what you're looking for. If you want total body stability and body control, handstand pushups are gonna kick the shit out of a military press. It just is. If you can stand on your hands and press your body up in the air, you have superior body control, hands stand, pushups are going to kick the shit out of a military press. It just is. If you can stand on your hands and press your body up in the air, you have superior body
Starting point is 00:31:48 control. Is it superior for just overall strength and power now than a military press is going to give you more of that? Does that mean one is better connected? That's it. Does that mean one's better than the other? Again, it depends on what you're looking for and the best option is to utilize both. Yes. That's the best option.
Starting point is 00:32:05 And that's the point I was trying to get. Because they contribute to each. If I do... They help each other out. Yes, if I'm doing body rows, I'm going to get a different benefit than if I do a barbell row. If I do exercises manipulating my body through space, I'm going to get different benefits than when I'm manipulating weight through space.
Starting point is 00:32:23 And if you constantly have always for a long time trained with weights and We're all look our our M.O. Is changing things up but doing it in a way that's programmed It's not just going in haphazardly, you know putting things together And by the way, this is this is something I'm constantly reminded of I mean I'm right now I'm going back through maps red which I haven't done a long time and it's blowing me the fuck away Why because I got stuck in the I'm going to the Maps Red, which I haven't done a long time, and it's blowing me the fuck away. Why? Because I got stuck in the, I'm going to the gym and just gonna pick what I wanna do, type of thing, and I know what I'm doing, type of deal.
Starting point is 00:32:51 When you actually follow programming design for specific goals, it always blows you away, and Maps Anywhere will give you something, I don't care how much you live for it, and how long you've been working out, do a cycle of Maps Anywhere, and go back to the gym. It'll compliment all the rest of the workouts.
Starting point is 00:33:06 It'll compliment anything and everything. And here's the thing, people think about these at-home workouts as like, oh, I'm just gonna stay at home and do this because I'm not going to the gym and it's more convenient. Dude, take your maps anywhere and go to the fucking park, go to the hills, go and hike, go to the beach and do this shit.
Starting point is 00:33:22 Fun is hell. I took my maps anywhere workouts on the road when I was traveling, when I drove all the way from down here where in San Jose and I drove all the way up to Spokane, Washington, and along the way we made stops when we went camping. I was doing my maps anywhere workouts. They were very challenging, very different.
Starting point is 00:33:41 I came back to lift weights here at the gym and I felt, it's hard to explain, but you definitely just says it right, you feel more connected to the weights that you're lifting, you feel more stable. And when you have better body connection because you can manipulate your body through space, you have a different, it's a different confidence that you feel when you're just walking around. I feel like I could get down on the ground and move and do whatever I want. The last time I trained consistently bodyweight type stuff was when I was grappling a lot,
Starting point is 00:34:12 when I was doing lots of jujitsu. And you do feel this, it's a different feeling in terms of mobility and- It's full body control. It's full body control. And we lose that when we do a lot of, and this is why we talk so much against like machines because nothing to get you away from that faster than somebody who does machine
Starting point is 00:34:32 at least when you're doing like overhead barbell squat over a barbell press and squatting and deadlifting these are big gross motor movements that requires your body entire body to speak to each other but if you have more stabilization has to happen. Yeah, that worked. And we, we, a lot or not, we, we, because we talk a lot about it, but a lot of trainers and people overlook this and don't think it's a big deal. And, you know, as trainers, as far as long as we have, man, that is something that makes a huge difference, especially as your client's age.
Starting point is 00:35:01 If they start neglecting those type of movements and they start thinking that just because they're going to the gym and walking on the treadmill and they're going through all their machine exercises, they're doing great things like, no, they're not. In fact, they may be progressing on their hammer strength machine that they do. Oh, I'm up to 90 pounds now. Like, you're all excited. It's like, yeah, but you can't even get up off the ground for like a Turkish get up. Like, that would benefit you so much more like overall strength connectivity like think about the range of benefits that you're going to get from your exercise the more limited you do with the exercise the more control that exercises
Starting point is 00:35:35 the more narrow the range of the benefits the less control the less you know the narrow the scope or the restriction restrictions the more range of the more range of benefits you're gonna get. And I'll give you an example, if I took a gymnast, and I compared them to a power lifter of the same size, both, let's say they're both 150 pounds, one's a power lifter, one's a gymnast, the gymnast is gonna have a much wider variety of applications of their strength than then the power lifter,
Starting point is 00:36:05 the power lifter is gonna be much more narrow in their scope and can definitely out squat, out deadlift, and you know, out bench, the gymnast, but the gymnast is gonna be able to do a lot more shit. Now, from an aesthetic point of view, I'm gonna tell you something right now, you can, you'll look, if you do bodyweight-based movements and you progress them, because let me tell you something, there's some very simple bodyweight based movements and you progress them, because let me tell you something, there's some very simple bodyweight movements that require very little coordination, and then you can take that shit to the million degree,
Starting point is 00:36:30 that require lots of coordination and skill. That strength is applied to so many different things you do your life, and you'll look so aesthetic, my God, they look amazing. This is the science behind the AMP sessions. This is how we created the AMP sessions with this concept of, you know, here's your foundation stuff. It's the inverse of all of our other programs. So are there programs we have
Starting point is 00:36:48 these big foundational days, then we have these intermittent, like small mobility or focus or, you know, what you call it sessions, trigger sessions. So, you know, these, these small, these are only supposed to be like 15, 20 minutes well in the maps anywhere, it's the flip. The amp sessions are the most intense. Yeah, the amp sessions are the longest, the most intense, and we teach you how to progress it. So like, okay, if you're, this is your first week or two of doing this, this is only how many exercises
Starting point is 00:37:17 you need to do, this is the intense, this is how you should be pushing yourself. And then as you progress, these type of movements are much more challenging. You can start starting to challenge the body like this and then being this long and this intense. So I mean, really the way we developed it was, when it was done, it was pretty exciting. For somebody who does, I don't work out at home very often at all, although I do, it's not common in comparison to how much I work out in a gym
Starting point is 00:37:45 and I was really pumped about it after we did it. I think like anybody, we get stuck in our favorite modes or whatever, but I'll tell you what, here's one of the best ways you can use Maps Anywhere because the whole program is, it's programmed out and it's shorter, the phases are shorter than you would find with our other Maps programs. One of the best ways you can incorporate maps anywhere,
Starting point is 00:38:06 I'm gonna tell you right now, is to, let's say you're doing maps in a ballack and then you're gonna follow that up with maybe maps performance or maps aesthetic. Inject maps anywhere in between those two cycles. Do, you know, you finish your maps in a ballack. Now do your cycle of maps anywhere before you move on to your next maps program and then watch what what happens and here's what I like to do with it.
Starting point is 00:38:28 Take your map, like I said, take your maps anywhere, work out and go outside with it. Go do some different shit with it. Bring your friends with you. Make it a different experience. There's a lot you're going to benefit. There's a lot of benefit you're going to get from just changing the environment. Don't even have to stay at home. All good energy, man. I swear, I've noticed that from body weight training specifically, but also, yeah, going outside bringing a kettlebell with me, it's a totally different type of stimulation and
Starting point is 00:38:57 energy and what I get out of the workout because now I feel like, I don't know, I'm in a different mindset even. Yeah. Have you done workouts outside? Again, I don't know, I'm in a different mindset even. Yeah. Have you done workouts outside? Again, I know you live and you're the... Yeah, you know, and intermittently I'll do it, almost like you said, like I'll really stick to the gym, you know, for a couple of weeks and that's my thing. Then you go outside.
Starting point is 00:39:17 And then I realize that I really love to work out outside. I almost enjoy it, like, equally. Yep, that's one of the best ways to use it, I would say. No. Say it as it is, girl. What does your food intake look like on weekends compared to week days? I guess this may be more of a personal, right? What we do, what each of us do? Yes, and the question was also... We're probably all a little bit different on this. Yeah, and the question is, it was more specific, like she said, or he, I don't know,
Starting point is 00:39:44 oh, it's said as a girl, it's't know, oh, it's sad as a girl's private girl. What is sad as a private girl? Yeah, probably. What does our food diary look like? So I think that they want to know a little more specifically, like what we do. So my nutrition varies can vary quite a bit, but lately what I've been doing is in the morning,
Starting point is 00:40:04 before I wake up at five, I drink been doing is in the morning, before I wake up at 5, I drink Cameracoff in the morning because I work out early in the morning. I love using that as a pre-workout. I'll put, if I feel like I need more calories, I'll put two or three tablespoons of MCT oil, I'll put a tablespoon of butter. Sometimes I'll add even more coconut oil, then I'll blend that up and I'll go work out. So that's when I start my day off. Then depending on my energy levels, if I feel like, you know, I need like again, I need more food or whatever. One of my kind of go-to meals when I come back after
Starting point is 00:40:36 my workout is I'll have some sardines, some avocado, a large plate of cooked vegetables, sometimes some bacon. Then later in the day for dinner, it could be lamb and another large serving of vegetables. If I'm gonna have carbohydrates, which I will have sometimes not a lot, but sometimes, then I'll have either some rice or some quinoa. And on the weekends, God, how does it change on the weekends?
Starting point is 00:41:07 Typically, on the weekends, I eat depends. If I'm eating over someone's house, like my mom's house or something like that, I'll eat a lot more. My mom knows how I like to eat. So if she's making pasta, if I say I'm gonna eat some pasta, then she'll make me gluten-free pasta.
Starting point is 00:41:22 If I say no, I don't wanna have any starches, then she just may make some, you know, they make the pasta with like the spaghetti squash or whatever. So it's a little bit less starchy. And then usually, you know, my mom will make meat and vegetables and lots of other things. But I follow my body pretty on a pretty intuitive basis. So I kind of listen to it.
Starting point is 00:41:43 Last night, we went out to dinner with some friends, you know, the mind pump crew. And I ate, you know, some bread, which I rarely ever do. And I had a drink. I had a lot of... What was that drink you introduced me to? Moscow meal.
Starting point is 00:41:54 Oh my, dude, I was thinking, I never had that before. You never had a Moscow meal? Did I not drink her? That was fucking phenomenal. I haven't had one in forever. It's fucking delicious. And it's stronger than you think to you.
Starting point is 00:42:03 Here's one of them you're like, Here's what I liked about. And this, I don't like alcohol. It just upsets me, dude. you think. Here's one of them. Here's what I liked about. I don't like alcohol. It just upsets me, dude. I don't feel good after I drink. I wish I had that, that's why I don't wish, because then I'd probably like doing it all the time.
Starting point is 00:42:13 So it's probably a blessing in disguise. It's a curse. That was a very enjoyable drink. It felt like it gave me a nice little kick. It went down, just felt good on my stomach, too. What's the combination? There's something in there that's... Ginger beer? Oh, the ginger. What on my stomach too. What's the combination? There's something in there that's ginger beer.
Starting point is 00:42:25 Oh, the ginger. What else? Bodka. Is it ginger beer, ginger, or ginger beer? Gin, but yeah, I think vodka. And then what a lime or something like that. I think it's, you think it's a ginger beer? Cause you know, ginger is really good for upset stomach.
Starting point is 00:42:39 I tell you, that was like, it felt so good going, I was like, whoa, I never order a second. You had two. Yes, that's right. I told Justin, I give me another one. These things were killer. Has that nice spice because of the ginger home, man. That's Moscow Mule, huh?
Starting point is 00:42:51 Uh huh, Moscow. Now, is it rare to find it at places? Because I feel like it's never seen anybody drinkin'. Not in a good place, what is it? What is it in a copper? I almost did, yeah, certain bars. I would order that like long time ago in Austin, Chicago, but they're like more swanky kind of bars.
Starting point is 00:43:05 So now you find them almost anyway. I found them really. Yeah, I've had a couple of that. That is so fascinating to me that at 35 years old and I haven't fucking never had one or seen one before. That's only the third time I've had one, they're amazing. Yeah, who introduced you to them? You know, my friends that I used to go,
Starting point is 00:43:23 we would go to the Delta. Remember, I don't know if I told you guys, but I have some friends we go on the Delta and we ran with those house One of them a brilliant guy's a he's a psychiatrist, but on in his spare time he He makes all the drinks and he makes all these exotic drinks and he was just making a bunch of shit and he's like hey What do you know do you like alcohol? I'm like no, I hate the taste of it So it's like I bet you like this and he made me a Moscow meal and you put it in a copper cup Yeah, I'm I'm telling you it was very
Starting point is 00:43:49 It was quite the experience for me because I don't like alcohol. I really don't and I always I'm always open to like trying different drinks When I'm out like I like to be social, you know, I'm gonna be the guy like no, I don't have water Yeah, you know like we got eight we last we last night we're with Kyle Kingsbury, we're with Ben Greenfield, we've got Art of Charm, Jordan with us, podcaster, we got Janine from Brain FM. We got all these like, it's like testosterone at the table and then everyone's going around
Starting point is 00:44:16 to order drinks and we all have water. I have water. I have a water. And then I saw the, then I saw the Moscow and you thought less of you come out and like this barrel cup and I'm like fucking I want one of those It's a sweet drink that's manly Yeah, thank you, yeah, thank you for awesome. Yeah, so so every every day I have one of those and I'm just
Starting point is 00:44:35 No, that was no so who's next with the truth? Well, I just totally sidetracked this I apologize for that But it's been put in true mind pump now. Well, I know I wanted to bring that up because it was very new to me. So I didn't share that. Anyways, what does your food intake look like on weekends compared to okay? So this is kind of cool because I felt like we talk about kind of aha moments that we've had in training or times
Starting point is 00:44:56 that we really grew as far as coaches or trainers with our clients. This was something for me when, and I remember it really started when the body bug came out. So this was like 2006 or so, some around there. And basically the body bug was at the very, body media was the first company that did like the Fitbit tool.
Starting point is 00:45:18 Contract your steps and it was pretty accurate to your BMR. So you could get an idea of what your expenditure was. And it was actually like, it's like 94% accurate. So that's pretty accurate in comparison to what any tools we had before. And especially in comparison to guessing. Yeah, exactly, especially in comparison to guessing. And that's really the way I use it.
Starting point is 00:45:36 I didn't get so hung up on the precise amount of calories as much as like these patterns that I would notice with not only my own life, but with my clients' lives. And so this forever changed the way I eat. It used to be that Monday through Friday, I was dial, leading wise, train hard, and then if I was going to let loose, it was going to be the weekends on Saturday and Sunday, and I would just eat mindlessly, and if that was going to have drinks, what would go out or eat out, like that would be it, and if I was going to take a day off the gym, that's what I do. So that was kind have drinks, whether it would go out or eat out, like that would be it. And if I was gonna take a day off the gym, that's what I do.
Starting point is 00:46:06 So that was kinda like my pattern. And I always felt, even as a trainer, I always felt like I was stuck in this, I could get in a good shape, but I could never get in like phenomenal shape, like cover of a magazine. And I felt like, for as much knowledge as I have and experience I have,
Starting point is 00:46:23 and I think I have good work ethic, I should have that. This was a very frustrating thing for me. And one of the biggest glaring moments I had was when I started to track these things. And I noticed that holy shit on Saturday and Sunday, my steps are literally like 50% of what they are Monday through Friday. And on top of that, like the worst food choices I was making was on Saturday and Sunday. So I was over consuming and I wasn't moving enough,
Starting point is 00:46:54 and it was enough to, no matter how hard I was. It was through everything up. Yeah, it was enough just to keep me there. I guess it stayed a good shape and I was fine. And this is why too, when I explain and I share this with clients, I say, listen, it's really about your goals. So if you tell me that part of your goals are Saturday and Sunday you want to enjoy yourself with your friends and you want to eat kind of mindlessly and you don't care about getting in in even better shape than you're already currently in
Starting point is 00:47:18 then by all means I think there's nothing wrong with living that way but for me I was trying to get to the next level of fitness, and I was frustrated that I couldn't get there. So when clients tell me, you know, what do I need to do? And I said, well, one of the biggest things that ever helped me was assessing my daily activity and then learning how to eat accordingly. So I eat a certain way Monday through Friday,
Starting point is 00:47:39 and then Saturday and Sunday is very unique. And Sal says he eats very intuitively, and I guess you would call it that way for me, although I feel like I've tracked so much that I know that on Saturday and especially Sunday, and right now it's football season. So literally on a Sunday, I literally can, there's a day,
Starting point is 00:47:58 there's days where I don't go outside until like, it's like eight o'clock a night because I had to go out to my car or something, I'm like, holy shit, like I literally stayed inside all day. I just watched football. Yeah, I watched football, especially if it's like 80 o'clock a night, cause I had to go out to my car or something. I'm like, holy shit, like I literally stayed inside all day. It was watch football. Yeah, watch football. Especially if it's an easy day to give that excuse that I'm gonna stay in.
Starting point is 00:48:11 And that results in no joke, like a thousand step day from me, total from just walking around the house. And it results in literally 1500 less calories I burn than on a normal day. That's a fucking huge difference. And if on top of that, if that's the day that I would normally have poor habits,
Starting point is 00:48:29 where I would eat pizza or have a Sunday, fun day with combo. Oh yeah, it's like literally the kuda graf for sure. And for me, I was like, once I learned that, I realized that okay, now I need to like strategize like what's a good way for me to to make it to these weekends. So that's actually when I do a lot of fasting. So for me Saturday and Sundays because I know how little I move I have my morning coffee which is just
Starting point is 00:48:54 like sourced coffee and then I try not to eat the rest of the day until the evening time and I go all day because I know I'm not moving very much and the what the coffee really helps me, it helps suppress the appetite. So I've done it before where... Well, there's also that association with like sitting down watching TV and wanting to eat. Yeah, you know what I mean? And what people don't realize is once you do a little bit, so and this is something I found was, you know, I would say, I mean, pretty good, but then I would, if I would just ingest enough carbohydrates, it would promote more hunger. And though, even though I didn't need the calories, I wasn't pretty good, but then I would, if I would just ingest enough carbohydrates, it would promote more hunger. And though, even though I didn't need the calories,
Starting point is 00:49:28 I wasn't burning anymore, but because I, and I now ate and now I introduced all these carbs into my system. Now I'm hungry. So then I'm really fighting it. Why? And then I don't want to be miserable watching football. I'm like, I'm like, I'd lay here all day long.
Starting point is 00:49:38 I'm gonna be like, oh, I'm hungry. Like a little bitch. I'm gonna go eat. You know what I'm saying? So, but I learned that, okay, some strategies for me that have really helped me is, okay, I'll have that coffee, which you know, with the coconut oil and the butter is really high and fat, that totally satiates me. Or sometimes in some mornings, on Saturday or Sunday, Katrina will get up and she'll make
Starting point is 00:49:58 breakfast for us and that's when I have my whole eggs, cheese, avocado, eight to ten pieces of bacon, and then my coffee. So I have this really high fat meal in the morning, and then I don't eat the rest of the day until maybe late that evening, and I have a smaller meal to hold me off before I go to bed. What about you, Justin? I'll make this really short.
Starting point is 00:50:18 No, I think I struggle with the same kind of mentality on the weekends. I'm definitely more likely to go out. I think that's what I had to really find out and assess and figure out a better strategy. I definitely have more control during the week. For me, during the week, I can pretty much manage when I'm eating. If I even need to eat, I tend to fast quite a bit more during the week
Starting point is 00:50:49 just because of I stay busy and I make better decisions based off of like, okay, now typically I'll wake up, I'll have a coffee and then I'll let that go until two o'clock or usually maybe even four or five o'clock till I get home and it's not really an issue for me. But on the weekends, I'm going to try and get out of the house. And that's the whole thing.
Starting point is 00:51:12 I have to get out of the house with my kids and- And that's the thing too when you have kids like getting out of the house a lot of times means it's like everything. Yeah, it's going to get like, because you know, that's the trap, you know, the social component of it. It's like, it is something to do. Yeah. You know, even getting the trap, you know, with the social component of it. It's like, it is something to do. You know, even getting coffee is something to do. You know, so now I've made better decisions with that
Starting point is 00:51:31 where I would get like some kind of croissant or like some kind of pastry. Some frappuccino with a kick. I don't need donuts, but some sprinkles. Yes, some sprinkles. Yeah, they're like milkshakes now. Get one of those, you know, because I'm treating myself in the weekend. Yeah, I'm sprinkling, yeah, they're like milkshakes now. Yeah, get one of those, you know, cause I'm treating myself in the weekend.
Starting point is 00:51:46 Yeah, but yeah, I had to sort of like realize that about myself cause I could get, that could become a thing really quickly. And then the other thing was just like adding more activity. So I've, you know, over the last, you know, few months even I've really just like, I'm sorry dude, but I don't watch football, I don't watch sports, I don't watch any shit on TV at all any more in the weekends. It's like it's both sucks and it's both good for me. I'm so much more intuned with like kind of
Starting point is 00:52:18 reconnecting with my family and making it all about that time for me because I'm so consumed during the week with business. And in the weekends, it's like, I really need to catch up and step up my game. So, I've just eliminated watching anything on TV. And then I'll tape it if it's a really good game. And I'm like, I have to see this. I'll make sure and tape it in case I miss it. But yeah, I've totally changed my way my weekends.
Starting point is 00:52:43 Look, dude. You know how old we sound the fact that you just tape it. I heard the same thing. Did I say tape it all man? You said tape it like twice. DVR. You hit your VH. You know anything would've been better than that.
Starting point is 00:52:52 You hit some of a bitch. You get a good tape. So all the gray hairs coming out. Oh my god. You know what I can. I have this, you know, it's funny like certain words or smells or sounds that gives like a memory, you know? And like saying tape or cassette or anything like that,
Starting point is 00:53:08 just gives me this memory as a kid. When I was probably, God, let's see here, I was at the Dom Pedro House so I had to been fourth grade or earlier, however old you are in fourth grade of jumping out of the pool. And we had this doughboy and we had a decorator doughboy and jumping out of the pool and like running to my stereo that I had or boom box, you know, that had plugged outside listening where I had my blank tape inside
Starting point is 00:53:29 Oh to record a song Yeah, my favorite song finally got played. I've been swimming outside for three hours waiting for my song to get played So I could record it and listen to it over and over and over right and it comes on, you know It's like oh and there's your favorite song from In or in former snow. And fucking boom! Something on the plane! Yeah, I fucking jumped out of the pool, and then I'm slipping all over and like sliding, boom hit the record button,
Starting point is 00:53:54 like, yes, I got it now! Now I can play it on repeat all fucking day. No! No. Those were the days. You knew that song though, just like I did. Of course, there. In full, man. You're nuts, it is, man. You knew that song though, just like that. I did. Of course. In form.
Starting point is 00:54:05 You know what it is, man. What the fuck does he say there? I have a great song. Somebody. Great song. Please write it to the song. All right, see, stalf 2. If you had a 9-5 desk job, what would your workout meal schedule be?
Starting point is 00:54:20 It totally offends me. Why? Shut up. Because we started off that way. No, we could get offended by this, because I think he or she... They make it sound like, you guys get to have all the time in the world.
Starting point is 00:54:32 Yeah, and I know, I'm just kidding, because I know she didn't meet it that way, but in the rest of the question, reference that, if we had a nine to five job because we have these flexible schedules, or I'll tell you what, just like any other profession, it is no different than the fitness profession. If you build homes for a living,
Starting point is 00:54:52 one of the hardest things, one of the last things you ever do is build a home for yourself. If you clean houses for a living, you normally have a pigstieve a house. If you know what I'm saying? If you're a shoemaker, you have the worst shoot. Like it's just how it works.
Starting point is 00:55:03 When you do a job and we do fitness for a living, one of the actually hardest things is to discipline ourselves, to always do fitness and workout all the time because we live and breathe it. And sometimes you just wanna break from it. So that being said, I don't think it's any easier. I think when I've been in jobs
Starting point is 00:55:20 where I did kind of a nine to five, it was actually easier, because then I like, was going to schedule. I knew, well, you look forward to a lot more being in the gym. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, because that's a part of your day that's different than your job.
Starting point is 00:55:33 Yeah, especially because nine to five desk jobs suck. Oh, give me the fuck out of here. Terrible. Well, and it forces you to organize, to plan, to schedule the workout where, you know, because we do have this flexibility, say that also makes it easier to procrastinate it even more because it's like, oh, I'll get to it later.
Starting point is 00:55:50 You know, for this is a priority right now. We need to work, we need to record this, we gotta do these videos, we gotta finish this up. Let's do that and then we can, we'll get to our workout. Well, I'll tell you what, I, God, let's see, I've been working professional and fitness since I was 18. Up until we started going full-time mind pump, I did not get, I started work before 9 and I'd never got off work before 8 or 9 p.m.
Starting point is 00:56:10 When I was managing gyms, it was, it was, it was an 8 or 9 a.m. to 10 p.m. job six days a week. So I was there all the time and I would do it in the middle. But if I had a 9 to 5 job, I would do it in the morning before work. And I recommend for people who do have a nine to five job to do that because I know it's harder to do, but statistically speaking, if you make it the first thing you do in the day, you're more consistent. You're more consistent.
Starting point is 00:56:33 It's more difficult, it tends to be more difficult to do it after work, because things pop up during the day that kind of get in the way. But if it's the first thing you do when you wake up, it tends to be something you don't move on your schedule. So that's the first thing. I recommend that.
Starting point is 00:56:49 And look, I'll tell you what, the clients that I've had that have trained before work, always the most clients. Those are always the first things. Those are the ones you have forever. Every year, early birds. And when you go to the gym, when I would manage gyms, the morning crowd was very consistent. It was the same people all the time. The night crowd used to shift with the win man and the season and whatever.
Starting point is 00:57:06 So I would recommend if you have nine to five desk job, work out in the morning before you go to work before you get stressed before anything hits you and You tend to feel more energetic and better throughout the day as far as meal schedules concerned. Well, that's totally up to you. I like to fast until about 2 p.m. so I guess you could probably still do that with a nine to five job. Fast until two, eat and then have your dinner when you get home. If you like to eat breakfast, I guess you could eat it after your morning workouts.
Starting point is 00:57:33 That's all I would do. I don't think our, I don't think any of our eating and schedules would be any different. Yeah, I don't think so. None of us eat based off of a clock. Yeah. So the time of the day, like, and the way I look at it is if I'm hungry
Starting point is 00:57:47 and I'm not around the food I need to get, I'll just stay fasted until I can get around the food, I want to eat or should be eating, and then I'll eat it. And then if that means I went by two or three meals, I'll just have a much larger meal. I think that's a big message that we've tried to get across to people is that this is something
Starting point is 00:58:05 that we're trying to change in the industry is that these myths about meal timing and you have to eat every two, it's optimal to eat every two to three hours and it's like no, it's not optimal. In fact, it's not optimal, it's not ideal. I think we've talked that it creates more bad habits than I think it makes creates good habits. There's some things to say about it as far as somebody I think who's competing and has to track and weigh and measure and as a sport, you do that.
Starting point is 00:58:34 Of course, I can see the benefits that I utilize it, but the rest of my life when I'm being a normal human being, I don't eat by the clock ever. So, the 95-dest job thing wouldn't change't eat by the clock ever. So the 95 desk job thing wouldn't change the eating the workout thing. I somewhat disagree with Sal. I agree with both Sal and Justin 100% best clients, most consistency in people is the morning crowd. So if you are a morning person and that and that is, I think that is the best time. But I am so not a morning person that all the times that I've tried to become a morning person and that is, I think that is the best time. But I am so not a morning person that all the times that I've tried to become a morning
Starting point is 00:59:08 person and make this part of my routine, I fail at. And there's statistics to show that you'll be more successful doing what you will be more consistent at. So if you continue to fail at trying to become a morning person and you find yourself hitting the snooze button because you're like, I'm tired and that's more of a priority than my workout. And then you fuck it off the rest of the day because you don't get up in the morning and that's in so you're a failure at that.
Starting point is 00:59:32 Like no, then I would restructure it and I would work out for me. I got to work out in the mid afternoon. I have to have been awake for several hours, had my cup of coffee, interacted with some humans, had some water. Like I need to be, have gone. Like, this is how my body works. I don't have that ability to, I wish I did though, because when I, I'll tell you what,
Starting point is 00:59:52 when I do get up at six, it does make the rest of the day super awesome, but I'm not a morning person. But I'll tell you I'm a bear to get up. I'll tell you what, if you start working out, if you start working out in the morning, it takes time. Have your body, get adapted. Your body doesn't get adapted and you start to feel best and you have good performance in the morning.
Starting point is 01:00:14 Your body starts to adapt to the times you train and they'll find that your performance tends to be best at the times you tend to ask your body to perform. So, you know, saying, you know, when people say I'm not a morning person at an evening person There's definitely some truth to that but there's also look if you have kids if you have a nine to five job You've got busy stuff going on. I'm telling you right now there be a little bit of pain Waking up in the morning and making it a habit but once it becomes a habit
Starting point is 01:00:38 It's much more like I agree with I agree with that I definitely agree that it's I mean you will get adapted to it You but you have to make it through that but you have to make it through that process You got to make it through that process and you continue to fail Plus Jim's Jim's post you know Jim's after 5 p.m. Are you they suck? Yeah, no they know that's a horrible time to go to the gym to work out I'll never out that so that's a first the reason why and that's another reason why I do like to work out between the 11 to 1 See that's slow. Well, that's what we are as far. I'm in the same boat as far as like the one o'clock
Starting point is 01:01:08 to two o'clock kind of scheduled, because it's dead in the gym. I want the gym to myself. I do too. And so I got adapted to that working out at that time in my schedule because it was just like my body responded well to it. Obviously, I had done it for a while,
Starting point is 01:01:22 so I adapted to that time period. But yeah, I'm not a boring person either, do you I can totally identify with? Yeah, I just did, and I enjoy the afternoon so much better for that reason too, because that's a big deal to me. I mean, we worked in big gyms for a really long time and I like having it to myself.
Starting point is 01:01:37 I don't like waiting for equipment or having to create my, you know, redirect where I was going with my program because there's so many of you. Well, here's something else. Like I said, the most managing gyms as long as I have, when you go to work, you notice trends, and there was a morning crowd that would come in
Starting point is 01:01:55 that was very consistent. And it was a lot of the people in the gym in the morning, like I could literally walk around my gym and I would see the same faces at 6am or 7am or 8am. And this is true across all gyms. Every gym I work with. Very consistent. And let me tell you something.
Starting point is 01:02:09 If you start working out with that crowd, it will make you more consistent too. And I'll tell you why, a very big component to being consistent in the gym is the social component. And when you see the same faces, and you've been doing it for a couple of months, next thing you know, you're saying, hi to the guy that you always see every morning
Starting point is 01:02:24 and hi to that woman over there. And then you feel like you're saying, hi to the guy that you always see every morning and hi to that woman over there. And then you feel like you get to show up and see people that you know and work out. When you go prime time, when you go after work, six o'clock at night, you know, at night or whatever, that crowd changes a lot. Very rarely where you start to notice, you'll see a few people in there that are consistent,
Starting point is 01:02:39 but if you work out of these big box gyms, it's the different crowd all the time. You're going to work and that also can make you feel less committed to your workout. There's all these things add up to helping you be more consistent with your workout. So, so spoken like a guy who trains in the morning. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:56 You sound like you know what's, but what you guys are basing the thing, you guys are all very motivated people. So for you, but put yourself in the shoes of the average person that needs every little thing to keep emotivating. Oh, well, yes and no. And I mean, here's the thing.
Starting point is 01:03:08 I mean, she is asking us personally. So I think that's a very fair word to answer because this is you personally. But I think that I think everybody is very unique. Cause a lot of the things that you're saying right now is why I also like the afternoon. Like I, and I'm surprised you're, this is where I am.
Starting point is 01:03:21 Surprise you're not like this. Like we've been in a lot of gyms in San Jose for a very long time. As much as I love people and I love people say hi to me and stuff, I also love my time in the gym. Oh no, no, no, you miss it. You're my center of sight. I see, it's not just, it's not for me.
Starting point is 01:03:36 I'm talking about for the average person. For me, I could give a shit if I go into a gym and know nobody. I'm there to do my thing. But if you're the average person, consistency is an issue. It's usually you're more consistent when you go to the gym and you recognize people.
Starting point is 01:03:49 In fact, we did studies where we found if we switched our front desk staff too often, we would lose members. It was always good to have the same front desk staff on a consistent basis. People saw it, you're not done. I'm not debating that. That's a different,
Starting point is 01:04:03 that's a whole different argument with behavior and feeling comfortable with your routine and your people that you're around. Like that's different. Like, you know, if somebody is just truly not, doesn't like getting up in the morning, I think they're working out at night. If that doesn't bother them more than a,
Starting point is 01:04:21 because I agree with you too, that a gym at night is just, oh my God, I'd never work out. There's been times, especially the big box gym. Oh yeah, there's been times, I just happened to me just like a year or two ago where I walked in and do a 24 hour fitness at like 5.30 and it was just because I really wanted to get my work out in.
Starting point is 01:04:36 It was the closest one and I was like, I'm just gonna go right now. And I was like, I hadn't been in a gym at that time, especially that gym in a long time. And I'll never forget walking in the weight room and not one pair of dumbbells was on the entire fucking rack. And I was like, are you full? All the 45s are on the link, yes.
Starting point is 01:04:50 Oh, bro, I mean, you asshole. I walked and it was just like, it's not impressive. It was a zoo in there. I was like, holy shit, look at this place. I'm like, I can't get a workout in here, fuck this. I just walked out. And it's just like, I was so irritated. So that bothers me.
Starting point is 01:05:04 That, I mean, a bothers me. They've been is like, I was so irritated. So that bothers me. I mean, I'm bothers me. They've been, in fact, somebody else may be, like you said, connected to the social piece of it and they walk in and they're like, oh my God, there's Richard. There's James. Oh my God, there's Samantha. I've been wanting to say hi to her
Starting point is 01:05:16 and they're like, oh my God, they're so happy to be in the gym with all these people so they can say hi and be in the social. I mean, that detours me. So you gotta kind of know yourself and be in the social. I don't, I mean, that detours me. So you gotta kind of know yourself and then know the crowd and know what that, the morning time brings very business, business people that are about their workout,
Starting point is 01:05:35 they get in, they get out, they don't fuck around, they're consistent, and I love training them as a trainer. You're lunch crowd, those people I find very consistent too. Most of those people have an hour window. They're driving over, they have a good point. They're gonna bring their gym bag. They know they're sacrificing their lunch when other people are out eating for 90 minutes.
Starting point is 01:05:54 They're getting their gym workout in. And then eating. It's the evening crowd that shifts so much. Oh, the evening crowd is very, very... Look, we're in November right now, actually in December by the time this airs, it's December, December is is very very slow in james January you get a whole shit ton of people to come and work out and most of
Starting point is 01:06:10 them disappear by April you know and and most of it is the prime time you know the mornings don't really change that much is that prime time hour yeah I just to I just think whatever whatever time that you can find consistency because that to me that's why we struggle right now. I was just telling the boys yesterday, I was like, man, I have been really struggling with my consistency with my training. Now for us, I'm a guy who used to training six, seven days a week.
Starting point is 01:06:34 So dropping down to three is like, oh my God, for me. But that also part of letting go of that and being okay with that because I have different priorities right now is a struggle that I have too. But sharing with them that I'm just been so inconsistent and we have a fucking gym, a work in a gym, a private one that I have, whatever we want when we want to. It's a different setup. Yeah, it's just, you know, it's so,
Starting point is 01:06:54 I bet if you got up in the morning and did it first thing. Yeah, it's been a long time. You know, I would love to. I would love to. That's why I changed my time. Yeah, no, I know you did. I'm sure you did that, and you trained yourself and got adapted to that But it was a pain in the ass at first. I'll tell you that coffee helps a lot in the morning
Starting point is 01:07:10 Just gets me going. I you know, I never used to drink coffee Pre-workout, but it makes a big difference for me to get that that little caffeine buzz earlier Yeah, see but then I want to go to bed at like seven o'clock when I'm up that early And I exercise too and and literally from six to 10 p.m. is my time with Katrina. I mean, that's when we finally get to get you. You go to bed at 10. So then I gotta go to bed at like, no. Not if I'm getting up early and working out before that.
Starting point is 01:07:32 I wake up at 5, I go to bed at 10. That's plenty of time. Maybe because you fall right asleep. Oh, that's what it is. Yeah, no, I don't. You can make sure you get a hand job before you go sleep. Yeah, you can use my brain at 5, but it helps. Thanks for listening to Mind Pump.
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