Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 414: How to Identify Muscle Imbalances, the Impact of Influential People & Nootropic Infused Coffee

Episode Date: December 7, 2016

Kimera-Quah! iTunes Review Winners! In this episode of Quah, sponsored by Kimera Koffee (kimerakoffee.com, code "mindpump" for 10% off), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about the people ...who have influenced them the most, how to identify muscle imbalances and whether or not mainstream coffee companies like Starbucks will be offering nootropic infused coffee. Have Sal, Adam & Justin personally train you with a new video every day on our new YouTube channel, Mind Pump TV. Be sure to Subscribe for updates. Get MAPS Anabolic, MAPS Performance, MAPS Aesthetic and the Butt Builder Blueprint (The RGB Super Bundle) packaged together at a substantial DISCOUNT at www.mindpumpmedia.com. Please subscribe, rate and review this show! Each week our favorite reviewers are announced on the show and sent Mind Pump T-shirts! Have questions for Mind Pump? Each Monday on Instagram (@mindpumpradio) look for the QUAH post and input your question there. (Sal, Adam & Justin will answer as many questions as they can)

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Starting point is 00:02:30 Might, might, up with your hosts. Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. You know what I just realized the other day? So my son- I don't believe us. My son's 11. How old's your oldest Justin? Six.
Starting point is 00:02:43 Okay. My son's 11 in a very short period of time He's gonna figure out how to find my podcast and he's gonna hear you joking about cocaine all the time No, we haven't explicit he has to be I don't make the Lies in he's just decided it's on the internet dude. I don't get it's it's not Them dude at some point. They're gonna see Fucking donkey porn and weird shit because it's there. Yeah, but that's that, you know.
Starting point is 00:03:07 He's all that's cool about that. That's their weird friend that's like, Hey man. By the time your kids are 18, shit's gonna be way here. It's not gonna be 18. They're gonna be next year, he's 12, dude. This show will be 12. Yeah, but it's explicit.
Starting point is 00:03:20 You have to be 18 or older to have it. Anybody can download. You don't put all the blocks on your phone? On my phone? Yeah. There's no blocks. Yes, you have all the, iPhone allows you to have all this stuff where there's, if there's certain things
Starting point is 00:03:31 where you're over here. Do you really think that you're smarter than the average 12 year old when it comes to fucking technology? Not at all. Yeah. You are, you are adding the dried battle that kid. Not even, he will get on there
Starting point is 00:03:41 and he'll probably block me. What's the meaning? Yeah. From seeing what he's looking at That would be pretty funny right? You know my favorite thing is today Adam talking about how it's not cold in here Because by the way our heater is not working for whatever reasons
Starting point is 00:03:53 So it's it's blistering cold. I know blisterings used to define heat But it's that you're that cold that agitated it's freezing and Adam's like No fucking cool. Such a mean while meanwhile. Such a meanwhile meanwhile. He's literally wearing he's literally wearing I'm not exaggerating a hat designed for the North Pole. He is it's a fucking hat designed by it's very furry Around the ears in fact it's the hat that Santa Claus wears yeah because he lives in a massive E-Gloo Manchin because he lives in a massive e-glu mansion. Look at that cold, he's got a fucking fur. And he's got a beard hat on, big ass beard.
Starting point is 00:04:31 This is a sweater. He's the buff Santa. And he's very hairy chested. Is Santa supposed to be in a glue? Is that's what he's in? It's a massive, you never seen the car too much? I always buy a big wood, a big wood where all the little elves are running around
Starting point is 00:04:44 in a woodworking shop. It's cozy in there. You can't freeze in this baza. You can't, they're doing heavy machinery and cutting toys and so you can't be an egg. Little of melt. I don't know, dude. Yeah, Santa's house is not in a big house.
Starting point is 00:04:58 This is reality. Did Santa live in a fucking house? I'm googling it right now. So, cause you know this, yeah, cause this, this is gonna, yeah, Google Santa fucking house. I'm gonna, I'm googling it right now. So, cause you know this, yeah, cause this, this will, this is gonna, yeah, Google Santa's house is trying to redefine my archetype of Santa Claus again. Well, I mean, it ranges from wooden houses, like what Adam's saying.
Starting point is 00:05:15 That's pretty much true. To, uh, yeah, I guess it's a wooden house. This is a wooden house. Yeah. I guess you're right. No igloo's, huh? Father Christmas, who's like, he just like drags like trees behind him. No igloo's, huh? Father Christmas was like, he just like drags like trees behind him.
Starting point is 00:05:27 What's his story? Who? Father Christmas. Who's father Christmas? He's like, you know, he's from like Germany or something. Are you making things up again, Justin? I'm not, man. We're talking about this.
Starting point is 00:05:37 It's just a real thing. Santa is in worldwide. There's father Christmas. Santa is in a whole nother guy. Santa is in worldwide. I think, no, we made that shit up. I think Santa is. Santa is another guy. Santa's that worldwide? I think no, we made that shit up. I think Santa is... America did?
Starting point is 00:05:48 No, no. No, St. Nicholas was a real... No, I have friends in Europe. They get presents from Santa Claus. Santa Claus is basically a European... It's Father Christmas. But European thing, and so that's why it came to America.
Starting point is 00:06:01 In Italy, we have, I don't remember her name, shit. The day after Christmas, the good witch comes and gives you more presents. What? Yeah, I can't remember her name. Satan's shit is going on. The good witch, I gotta find this out. God damn it, what's her name?
Starting point is 00:06:17 Italian. The good witch brings presents after, now it just, now you over there, do you guys get Santa and then you get the good which or It's just a good which no you get oh Bafana lab Bafana her name is Bafana so you you get Santa and Bafana and you get Bafana She's I break us on the meat the ball in a tie in a tie-in folklore Bafana is an old woman who delivers guests to children throughout Italy on Epiphany Eve this is the night of January 5th.
Starting point is 00:06:45 So it's like after Christmas, right? Yeah. So I think Italian children, because Italian children are crafty. I think they invented this to get more presence. That sounds about right. You know what I mean? Yeah, it does. It does.
Starting point is 00:07:00 That was little. Crown gets snow, but we got a lot of Parmesan. She's usually an old lady writing a broomstick, and she's wearing a black shawl, and she's covered in soot, because she comes in through the chimney. She's just a copycat. Well, she's just copying the original.
Starting point is 00:07:16 You know what I mean? So I'm gonna give you guys a Bafana gift. Your, your boys. It's good. I don't know what that's gonna be. It's gonna be like a, a Rev. Older or something. Yeah. All right, so your boys won't be listening to this.
Starting point is 00:07:28 So what are you guys, did you already go Christmas shopping yet? Or do you plant it? What's on the list? Yeah, what are you getting them? Hamasahuntis. So I bought, I actually bought that block soul thing that you had done me that. Yes.
Starting point is 00:07:41 So it's this, it's like this, this, this toy. I don't know that you put together, there's like this, it's like this this this toy. I don't know that you put together There's like this. It's like a board that you put You connect all these blocks together and then you take pictures of it and there's this app And so you basically make levels and characters for a video game. It's like a grid So that yeah, you put like I sound like such an idiot like an uh like such an old-timey guy No, you get this thing any It's these tubes that you connect to make an internet.
Starting point is 00:08:05 It's an magic presto. Yeah, it's called what? What's it called? Block Soul. It's really cool. It looks cool. Well, no, my brother, you know, he's, yeah, I guess you wouldn't call it cool. It's kind of geeky, but my brother got like that first birthday.
Starting point is 00:08:18 I gave him him that first birthday because we're both really into video games and stuff. It's you. You gave your grown up adult male adult two years older than me Brother, oh, wow, okay, he loves it I'm good. I'm confused. So you gave your your brother the same gift. You're giving your 12 year old son Yeah, yeah, yeah, and I'm giving it to my my oldest so what I don't get it what How's it? Anybody make your own video games? You make your video games at home. It's sick Adam You can make your own reminds me of you never was like that was and I was just playing this
Starting point is 00:08:45 other day was excite bike for Nintendo or even better than that is Mario builder uh which is um fucking he has that but this is this is another level because you can like make your own apps like in a sense but like it's really simple you know that you know I came in today and I noticed that off road was on is that because Doug was here last night Fucking getting all good at the video. No, I turned it off Like this motherfucker. He doesn't want to get this ass ripped at NBA jam. You know have the ultimate high score forever So never let me tell you my experience with this so Adam is like hey, I got a surprise like he always does Which usually means he wants to buy something and use mine pump funds without approval
Starting point is 00:09:24 That is not true. He goes off and he spends thousands of dollars on Arcade games and brings him into the gym now normally I want to be angry I want to be like listen. I know you can't just fucking spend money and I tell us dude But I like them some guys. I got a ski to some like fuck what the fuck? I can't say anything. It looks so good in the gym. It's so great. I've always wanted a wave runner So now he's been his his his pattern of just taking our money and spending on ship for the gym is a bit emboldened Yeah, because he's gotten a rotten character to the place, but so far he's made great decisions Well, and guess what gets guess what we should have in two more two more days and we should have our hot up our
Starting point is 00:10:03 Chimera Nitro brew should be rocking it. Oh my god pretty excited for that and two more days and we should have our hot tub, our chimera. Nitro brew should be rocking every one of them. Oh my god. Pretty excited for that. It's cold brew infused with nitrogen, which is gonna make it creamy and all the benefits of the new tropics and the creamy blend
Starting point is 00:10:18 of the cold brew nitro. Creamy, the gross word. Yeah, it is. I do when you say it like that, that you do that. I did, I put my fingers apart like this I want to bring you guys a cup of coffee be like I made it extra creamy for You guys tell me that doesn't taste well, so I really used it with creaminess. I'm really
Starting point is 00:10:39 I'm gonna turn my mind to try the chai mera because I definitely know first of all There's only so many of these unless you live in Seattle because I know in Seattle. It's hard to find cold nitrogen infused coffee. Yeah, so it's hard to find that already. And then the fact that we've got Chymera coming with new tropics infused and it is, I'm really curious to see the taste, the feel, everything of this. So cold brewing, number one cold brewing coffee,
Starting point is 00:11:05 because the brewing process takes longer, you get more caffeine in the coffee, so it's stronger, people don't realize that. The flavor is richer, it's like a city down a little bit. Yeah, it brings down the acidity, so the taste is better, and then when you infuse it with the nitrogen, it gives it that mouth feel.
Starting point is 00:11:20 So if you've ever had like beer on tap, or they do that, it's fucking amazing. It's it's really really good It's a total tree. I've never been a black coffee drinker until Colbroon nitrogen If you the how did you always drink your coffee? Oh like a cream and sugar type, you know just a little bit There he goes again creamy No, for reals you put milk and sugar every time Like half and half I use half and half for a heavy whipping cream. Yeah There he goes again, creamy. No, for reals, you put milk and sugar every time. Cream. Like half and half.
Starting point is 00:11:46 I use half and half for a heavy whipping cream. Yeah. I've always had a coffee black, but now that in the morning I blend mine with the butter and the MCT oil, and I just fucking love that. Yeah, well that's kind of how I've survived now because it's a much better choice
Starting point is 00:11:59 than putting some like of all the food. Do you guys wake up in the morning and do that every morning? No, I just drink it black in the morning. You don't do nothing else? No, I don't want to put effort and it's too early. Hmm. Just, just the sound. Why did you sound angry? I throw shit on and I'm just like, yeah, he sounded not a morning person. He sounded pissed about getting up. I think that's true. I'm a downconf. We've spent enough time together now that it is true. You do wake up kind of irritated in the morning. Absolutely. A little bit angry.
Starting point is 00:12:31 I admit it. I always wake up happy. I don't know about you. Adam's in the middle. I think it depends. I think it depends who Adam's exposed to first. If he wakes up next to Justin, he's pissed off. Is he wakes up next to me?
Starting point is 00:12:42 He's happy. Yeah. Wait, like literally next to you. Yeah, but he's happy at night. Thank God, how weird please God, Eagle save us call bro. Eagle Queen Coffee! Go ahead and play a bit. Cymera Claw! Today's Claw is being brought to you by Kine-Marie Coffee. It's the only coffee that is infused with all natural neutropics for a cleaner,
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Starting point is 00:13:39 Yeah. I have never had a major influence on my life. Go ahead and say that. Until I met Adam. Go ahead and say that. Adam really changed my life. Because... Go ahead and say, until I met Adam. Go ahead and say. Adam really changed my life. Because, I don't realize you could be as cocky as he is.
Starting point is 00:13:49 And get away with it. That's not true. That's not true. That's not true, because you worked with Larry. And we both worked with him. Larry is the biggest cockiest motherfucker I've ever met in my life. And he's the only man I've ever met that you still love him.
Starting point is 00:14:02 Like normally when someone's cocky and arrogant, it just fucking rubs you the wrong way, but there are some people that have this ability to do that. Yeah, it's to me, it's it's the ultimate level of swag. If you can be cocky and people and not annoy people, still like you. Yes. And I think the talent. What that I think you have to be kind of a badass though, you know what I'm saying, you have to be able to back like if you're if you're cocky like if like a stepping curry. No, I'm stepping curry has like swag and he can what like the motherfucker is one of the best all time. So he can be that way, right? But you can't just be like.
Starting point is 00:14:34 Conor McGregor. Yeah, right. Exactly. Conor McGregor when he comes off all super arrogant. It's it's fucking funny. It's awesome. Yeah, you love them. So Larry was a guy like that. We both had a chance to work with him. Yeah, and I knew him personally. And I also knew he was, at the same time, he's also humble. And so yeah, that interesting combination. So my first biggest influence in my life was definitely my parents, 100%.
Starting point is 00:14:59 To the biggest things that I took for my parents were, because they're both very, very hard working, both have incredible integrity. In fact, my mom would never, she wouldn't lie to the point where she wouldn't answer a question if she knew she had to lie to protect your feelings or whatever, she would avoid the questions. So the integrity was incredible,
Starting point is 00:15:21 and their work ethic was incredible. I mean, my parents never complained about working hard. My dad worked seven days a week for most of my life. My mom never stopped working. She had a job later on in life, but she also did all the stuff around the house and stuff for the school. And so I learned those two things for my parents
Starting point is 00:15:40 to the point where I didn't realize I had learned them. It had just become a part of my fabric because that's what I was exposed to. So it wasn't like they sat down and taught me those kinds of things. It was just through observing how they were all the time with us. And so my parents definitely my biggest influences.
Starting point is 00:16:00 Later on, I got into the fitness industry very, very young. I was 18 as soon as I could get a job in a gym, I got my job in the gym and became a personal trainer. And shortly after I started working in a gym, I, the general manager of the club changed. So within about three, four months, I was managing the fitness department and then came in a new general manager and it was my very very good friend whose
Starting point is 00:16:25 now my good friend Don Cardona but at the time obviously I didn't know him. And he was this young, aggressive, you know, kind of individual who had this charisma about him and he was an incredible leader and immediately me and him became, you know, close. He recognized my work ethic and my talent. And I loved how straightforward he was and how he had incredible integrity as well with his staff. And we became very, very close. And he was able to challenge me and push me in ways that worked very well for me,
Starting point is 00:17:00 but I also challenged and pushed him. And he became a very, very strong influence in how I became a leader amongst people that, eventually when I became a manager, my style mimicked his quite a bit later on. Then, after that, I worked with other great leaders, and I'd learned from them as well. And I didn't really have a huge influence after that
Starting point is 00:17:24 until much, much later. And it's when I left working for corporate fitness and started my own business. And I started my own wellness facility. I believe I was 22 when I opened my wellness gym. And shortly after that, because I had kind of a way I ran my facility as people would rent could rent space for me, rent offices and run their business, but I also wanted everything to be cohesive and work together. I didn't just want anybody in my gym. I wanted people who would contribute positively to the members that would come into my facility.
Starting point is 00:17:58 And the two, the first people that came on board, one was a physical therapist and one was a massage therapist. But they were both very holistic in their approach, and they were both as oteric. The massage therapist was extremely as oteric. Now, you gotta understand, at that time, when these people came on board, I was atheist, like I had become hardcore atheist. I was very science-based and it was all
Starting point is 00:18:28 about lifting weights, doing cardio, macros and that was pretty much it. Everything else was pseudo-science or the esoteric stuff about the way you feel and your emotions and all this other stuff and meditation was all woo-woo bullshit to me and i don't want to hear it but these people came on board and i respected them uh... enough to let them do that themselves i personally didn't it right away absorb it uh... or really acknowledge it but i respected them as people and i respected their practice and i let them do their thing and so the massage therapist would put like crystals in the gym and she'd sage the club with frickin' you know, she'd light sage and fuckin' put smoke all over the place and you know that's cause this shit happens in my house.
Starting point is 00:19:11 Yeah I know your girlfriend is like that. The physical therapist would, you know, people would come in and complain about pain and you know, she would choose a physical therapist so she understood correctional exercise on a level way beyond me. But then she also would say things like, well, how stressed are you? And your pain may be coming from this emotional situation that happened, I'd listen to her,
Starting point is 00:19:33 and at first I'd roll my eyes, but because I respected her so much, I would kind of pay attention. And fast forward, I don't know, maybe two years into our relationship of working together, and I'm starting to adopt some of the things that they're saying because I'm starting to see some of the benefits and I'm always trying to be open-minded, you know what I mean? So I'll listen even though I'll disagree.
Starting point is 00:19:54 But I start to see some of the evidence both anecdotally and also from doing my own research of some of the steps you're saying. And then boom, my body turned on me in a big way, and I had severe autoimmune issue just came up, and I thought I had, I thought I was really scared, I thought maybe I would have something like Crohn's or whatever my digestive system just cancer. Any time something happens to Sally's almost.
Starting point is 00:20:17 Well, you joke about that, but I'm gonna be honest with you, those paranoias happened after this. Before that I started. That's what it started because my body turned on me in a big fucking way. You're looking at someone who, at the time, thought he understood health and fitness, right? I ate chicken and rice and my vegetables and I worked out and whatever. And boom, all of a sudden, I'm losing 10, 12, 15 pounds.
Starting point is 00:20:46 Everything, I just had severe digestive issues. Energy was horrible, I was pale. My performance in the gym, there's nothing I could do to stop it, nothing that I knew to do to stop it. I thought I was doing everything right. Went to the doctor, of course, they couldn't do anything for me, couldn't identify any parasites or bacterial anything.
Starting point is 00:21:09 And so I couldn't, I could not, for the life of the understand what was going on. And because I was in such a vulnerable position, I became much more open-minded to some of the stuff they were talking about. And I did a food intolerance test, they call them pinter tests, which are arguably, mainstream medicine doesn't necessarily accept them, but there is some science to support them. I was at a point where I'm like, I'm just gonna fucking try it because I had seen them work with other people
Starting point is 00:21:36 and how well they had worked out. So I took a pinter test and boom, came back, gluten intolerance and certain nuts I had to avoid and egg whites and I was very, my body was in this kind of hyper immune state. I took all those foods out, started listening to what they were saying, started slowly eliminating supplements and my body started getting better and I started feeling healing, you know, started healing myself and this is when I started to adopt my current
Starting point is 00:22:03 philosophy of wellness, and which is still evolving, it's still taking me down that path. And those two young ladies, I don't work with them anymore, but at the end of course, I started, having them teach me how to meditate. I started looking at yoga. I started understanding wellness on a completely different level.
Starting point is 00:22:24 They, by the way, it wasn't a one-sided relationship. I influenced them when it came to resistance training. Both of them had zero really understanding of real strength training and the benefits of that on wellness. They started deadlifting and squatting and doing all these different things. It was a big influence on each other. That was my last, I guess, huge, great influence aside it was, it was a, we were big influences on each other and that was my last, I guess, huge, great influence aside from working with, with you gentlemen and doing mind-pump and,
Starting point is 00:22:51 you know, us continuing to evolve, you know, kind of our philosophies on things, so, you know, that's it. That's quite a bit right there. Yeah, that's a lot. I mean, I, you know, I just, I want to acknowledge these people. No, I thought that, you know, and you actually, I'm glad you, I'm glad you went first because you sparked some things. I mean, right away I have somebody that, right, always comes to mind when a question like this comes out, but you said something that I think is important to talk about that I probably wouldn't have shared
Starting point is 00:23:19 unless I listened to you talk about your parents first. And I think when we think of like heavy influencers in our life in a question like this, right away we go to all these people that have had this great positive influence that really drove us in this direction to a personal growth or elevating who we are. And I would have to thank my parents, my mother,
Starting point is 00:23:43 my real father and my stepfather for this because they were major influencers. Now, the difference is the heavy influence was a part of a lot of what I do is very opposite or different of how I was raised. And I've talked a little bit on the show before about my dad commuting suicide when I was seven. My mom married into an abusive relationship after that. And we moved all over the place because we were either getting evicted from a house, I've
Starting point is 00:24:10 seen our houses foreclosed on. So I had a pretty rough upbringing, but that's also what made me me. Tony Robbins talks about people that struggle with these issues from childhood. And we don't think our parents, those people that go through that, they hold on to that and they are angry or bitter upset over it where I have a different view on that. I think my family for putting me through that because I really think that it developed my character at a very young age. I was forced to be, I was the oldest of five, so I was forced to be kind of the leader of
Starting point is 00:24:50 the family. I saw a lot of the things that they did wrong and I knew that like as I got older, that these were priorities in my life and I didn't want to do this and I didn't want to do that and I want to make sure I did this and a lot of that was because I went through the struggles. And I think it's hard for people sometimes to learn how to take situations like that and to allow it to influence you, but influence you in the right direction. Instead of letting it bring you down or negative or feel sorry for yourself, instead I used it the same way.
Starting point is 00:25:19 Sal used it only. I was looking at it like, okay, these are the don'ts. Don't do this. don't do that. If otherwise I could head down this way. So obviously that was a huge influence very early on. So I had that, I was out on my own by 17 years old and I was paying for college and working at the same time. And so that matured me really early.
Starting point is 00:25:41 And because of that, you know, and they typically say like, you know, men are always like what, five years or so behind women when it comes to maturity. I think I was a rare case. I don't think that was the case at all, which is probably why I always dated older women than me because I had to mature at a very young age, which I think helped accelerate me, you know. I don't think I would have bought my house at 21 years old had I not gone through this whole process. So that was probably the original influencers to set me off on my path, the where I am at today.
Starting point is 00:26:10 And then probably the next person who I would say really, really changed my life was my buddy Mark Baker. And also like Sal, this is a very, this is where him and I have so many similarities is I was the fitness manager of the head trainer just like he's talking about the running a club. And just like he was saying, I had another GM and I had him for a couple months
Starting point is 00:26:34 and month three comes around and I get a new guy. And I've never met this guy before. He comes in and I think Mark at that time was about 26 years older so and I'm 21. So he's got a few years on me. And he comes in and the first encounter that we have, we really don't really talk very much. He just gets in and he gets fucking right to work.
Starting point is 00:26:58 And at that moment or at that time, I had never seen somebody so focused, so driven, worked so hard, and we never really talked, and at first it kind of irritated me. It bothered me that he didn't give me the time of day. At that time, I was kind of the man of the club. I was setting the records and sales,
Starting point is 00:27:15 and I was the man there, and then here comes this new guy, and he doesn't even stop for more than a couple of minutes to talk to me, because he's just on the go. He's busy, bam, bam, bam, everywhere going. And I'm like, who the fuck is this guy? Like, who do you think you are, Timothy, all right? So that was kind of how we started off.
Starting point is 00:27:31 And as I got to know who he was, I was so impressed with his leadership ability, his emotional intelligence. And he's really the one who taught me all that and really taught me to learn how to reflect and look inward on everything that's happening to us. So every time something happens to us, so quick are we to blame others or look at everything else that is causing this in our life instead of internally looking at, what can I have done differently or what part of this do I own and then also
Starting point is 00:28:05 understanding like desired outcome. So he was a first person to plant that seed with me and I was the best man in his wedding and I remember I told this story for, you know, my speech for him and the, I mean, I literally broke down crying telling this story because it was such a powerful moment for me because I'd already seen And I was already getting influenced by his leadership in front of me and his work ethic and the things that he was teaching me about being a better person and desired outcome And it was really pushing me and elevating me to a whole other level that I didn't even know if I was capable of and I'll never forget the day that he was transferred out of that location.
Starting point is 00:28:47 And he'd only been there for about one year. And because you know how it used to work in our company, especially if you're very successful, there's still be around. Yeah, they move you around. If you kill it in a location, especially if you break records and you do great things which we did while we were there,
Starting point is 00:29:00 they're sending you off to the next place to fix, basically. So, and that's what happened to Mark. Mark came in, he just totally flipped the club upside down. We sat and broke all kinds of records and did great things. I learned a ton from him. We became the best of friends while that was happening. And then the night came when he was telling people that they were gonna be transferring him up
Starting point is 00:29:18 to the Mountain View location. And at that time, remember I had worked there before. So I actually knew the staff even better than he did. And some of these guys were like, you know, like the J.Subias who had been in the company since the beginning of time. You know, they'd been there for 10 plus years and old guys. So we were sitting in a room of about 10 guys and you've got everything from about 18 years old all the way up into their mid 50ifties of men that are sitting in the room. And when Mark went around and he tells everybody that he's going to be transferring to Mountain View, it was like, God, he gets me emotional just thinking about this moment because it was such a powerful moment. The entire room just goes dead silent. And I'm like, sitting there,
Starting point is 00:29:58 and I'm like, God, this is, you know, and I knew he had told me I'm like his best friend, and I knew he was going to mount, and I was excited for him because he's getting promoted. But the rest of these men that looked up to him as the leader of their facility, everyone was quiet. And you could tell like they're looking at their faces and some people look like they're kind of mad and angry and other people are kind of sad and they don't know how to react. And then one of them stands up, dude, and he walks over and he just hugs them.
Starting point is 00:30:22 Then he just starts bawling, dude. Just bawling, crying. And then one guy after another,. Then he just starts bawling, dude. Just bawling, crying. And then one guy after another, bawling, crying, bawling, crying. And the next thing you know, you look, crying. And I'm crying. It's like, tend grown ass men are sitting in this room. And everybody is just crying.
Starting point is 00:30:36 And you're like, holy shit. That was one of the most powerful moments that I'd ever been around. Somebody had impacted their feelings that much and there his leadership was just insane and like after that I was like forever in love with trying to to reach that level I was like man I want to be at a level where people cry because I'm leaving and he wasn't even leaving He's going to Mountain View. He's only going up the road 45 minutes
Starting point is 00:31:04 I like he's moving to another country or saying, I'm never gonna talk to you guys anymore. But that's how powerful of a leader, what he was, that these grown-ass men that have only known him for one year were breaking down in tears because he was now moving on. So for sure, most influential person
Starting point is 00:31:22 that has ever played in a role. And then just like Sal said, man, since then, this relationship that the four of us have in here, like it couldn't be more perfect of a timing where we all are in our journey and fitness and in business to get all of us together. I feel every day that I leave this facility, a part of me grows, whether it be spiritually,
Starting point is 00:31:45 emotionally, physically, intellectually, I'm growing every single day when I'm in a place like this. And I think, I don't, I think it's another Tony Robbins thing, or I can't remember where, I remember listening to this one time about, you know, as you're like in search your whole life of like the most ultimate platform where you can just continue to grow and flourish. And I believe that we have found that in this place with the four of us is that everybody is pushing each other to grow and go to the next level. So I would say that's probably the third most influential situation or people that have been in my life for sure.
Starting point is 00:32:21 Yeah, this is kind of a tough question for me just because listening to you guys, you have very specific people that you can identify as like those one, like I could say, like this guy, you know, or this girl, this lady. And you know, for me, it's just been this process, this journey of growth. And obviously, I kind of sell much in the beginning.
Starting point is 00:32:50 Like, my parents had a huge influence on me. And mainly to establish my moral compass and really grounding me as far as what kind of character that I have in the integrity. And my dad was very, very influential with that and challenged me all the time. And tried to make sure that, you know, um, that was something that was a, is a big priority in my life. And so, you know, that, that was like his major thing coming back from Vietnam and everything was to make sure,
Starting point is 00:33:26 you know, there's a spiritual side to me and our family and that we really paid attention to how we treat people and, you know, how important family is and all that kind of stuff. So, you know, that was, that was a huge, huge part of who I am. And then going from there, it's like this self discovery for me,
Starting point is 00:33:49 I had to like challenge myself. And then I had to like break out and kind of find out who I am. And so I personally went out, and I guess I could identify like my ex girlfriend because she kind of prompted me to get the hell out of Dodge. And I went to Chicago to find out who I was. And I didn't know anybody out there.
Starting point is 00:34:14 And that was a really hard time that I had to experience. I had to figure it out. And I've had a lot of authoritative type characters in my life, like coaches and, you know, teachers, but I can't really pinpoint them being that person that was like, oh, that was the fire. That was the motivator that drove me to, you know, I just kept internalizing, you know, trying to self-reflect
Starting point is 00:34:42 like, you know, what do I really think about this? And like, I don't know, I guess I've always been really dismissive of like motivational type characters or like people that like project this kind of I don't know, like this, this has a lot of charisma and I'm always like, well, you know, who are you to tell me these types of things? You're very suspicious of that. Yeah, very skeptical. And so there was a lot of great, I mean, man, my coach in high school was super motivational. He was like, amazing. And I know he influenced me, but I didn't like get any further with that. I was like, that was my time period.
Starting point is 00:35:22 It's like a little time capsule of him influencing me then. And then the next phase where I'm like in college and I meet like a couple of people I've never met before, one of them actually Ben who lived in Morgan Hill was a big influence in my life because he checked me all the time and was like, you know, kind of challenging me as to why I made certain decisions that I made and like, you know, why like when I'm like black made and like, you know, why, like, when
Starting point is 00:35:45 I'm like blackout drunk and he tells me like, you know, what was the thinking behind that? You know, why did you do that? And I'm like, it sucked. You realize, you know, you can, you can get to a place where, you know, it's, it's dark and you have to get through it. And so, you know, coming back from that It was like this whole growth period of like oh my god like I think you know, just just these moments of like I don't know there was like certain moments where you you find people that influence you at the right moment and
Starting point is 00:36:22 You know, there's probably a handful of people that have done that. And, you know, coming back here, meeting my wife, she was another one that she would check me all the time. And like, I needed that, you know, I needed people to like, come in and check me. Call your bullshit. Yeah. Because, you know, because otherwise, like I thought,
Starting point is 00:36:41 like, I don't know, I'm just kind of chill. And I'm like, I'm just kind of coasting. And so I'm always seeking people that'll force me to grow. So that's why I, too, just like you guys, I feel like this is that sort of place where you guys have challenged me to come out of my shell, and that's where we are. I think it's one important thing to understand
Starting point is 00:37:06 when it comes to growth, is that growth comes from being uncomfortable. Growth comes from uncomfortable places. It comes from not feeling, you know, when everything's great and you're chilling and things are comfortable, there's really no reason to force yourself to grow. Grow is not, growing is not, it's painful, mostly, usually, right?
Starting point is 00:37:29 It feels good after you're there, but not while you're doing it. Like you talked about, like Justin talked about, moving somewhere, not knowing anybody, and I talked about how my body turned on me. And I think, I guess a good lesson is, and I'm learning as I get older, that when I get real uncomfortable and when shit gets real hard to appreciate it a little bit more, because I know that what's on the other end of that is going to be better than what was there before.
Starting point is 00:37:59 So, if you're listening right now, I guess that would be the takeaway. Think about all the times you grew and got better. It was probably because you were kind of had to, you know what I mean? Because you were uncomfortable. Our next question is from JJ Wow 30. How do I recognize if I have muscle imbalances? That's a great question because muscle imbalances for the untrained eye can be very difficult to identify sometimes.
Starting point is 00:38:26 Now, from an experience standpoint, I can identify most, especially glaring muscle imbalances, and I don't even have to see you move that much. I can tell by posture, I can tell by maybe the way someone's sitting or the way someone's walking, you can usually see them. You know, some easy things to identify for yourself when it comes to muscle imbalances and easy signals pain. Yeah, as I said, that's the most obvious is the aches and pains. Yeah, I mean pain really comes in two general categories, right? You have your acute pain or pain that comes from acute causes. Like I fell and you know hurt my arm or I twisted my ankle with a particular way and now that hurts and that's not a muscle imbalance, although muscle imbalances can lead to acute issues. That's an actual injury.
Starting point is 00:39:18 Then there's the kind of pain that tends to be chronic. Like yeah, my shoulder just kind of always hurts or my low back, I have issues in my low back or my knees tend to bother me. That comes from dysfunction, joint dysfunction, which comes from muscles not working in an ideal way. And when you identify, when you look at a joint and you look at the way a joint moves, even though it looks very simple, you know, like an elbow joint or or a knee joint may even look simple because it flexes and extends. A knee joint is designed or evolved to utilize so much to carry so much load and to move in a particular way.
Starting point is 00:39:58 And if that knee joint is moving in a way that's not necessarily designed to move or is handling more of a load or more of a percentage of a load than it should. Over time, that can cause problems in that particular joint. So, like, if I have a shoulder, if you look at my shoulder, for example, and my, let's say, my shoulder blade doesn't retract and depress very well, and I'm doing overhead pressing movements and pressing movements to the front of my body. So, I'm doing bench presses and shoulder presses, but my shoulder blade isn't retracting and depressing very well. I can get impingement problems or I can get issues with my rotator muscles, my stabilizers, like my super spinatus or my infraspinatus, because those muscles are trying to stabilize
Starting point is 00:40:42 a joint and other muscles which are trying to stabilize a joint and other muscles which are supposed to be doing lots of stabilization aren't doing what they're supposed to. So I have these small muscles now doing more of what they're supposed to. And that can cause, that can cause pain. Posture I would say is probably easiest for the layman. Like if you're not a trained trainer
Starting point is 00:41:01 and you want to identify muscle balance and you see someone standing and they're're some rounded shoulders Yeah, if their shoulders are rounded or if their shoulders tend to shrug Or their back sticking out. Yeah, their head kind of comes forward a lot like they're always on a computer or They're low back arches a lot like you see that you know girls on Instagram posing with their butt out I mean someone's standing like that all the time. That's an an imbalance. Or their tailbone tucks and they've got that. Like Adam says, a frog and suspenders look.
Starting point is 00:41:29 That's probably a muscle imbalance. But really, it's harder to recognize because you can sometimes see someone that looks okay. I can watch them do an exercise like a row and it looks like their form is good, but then I can see that they're small. The way they move in small, very, very small ways. Like I noticed a little bit of, you know, shoulder shrug with the,
Starting point is 00:41:50 with the, with the row. Well, that might mean that they're, you know, scapular retractors and depressors, or maybe a little weak, and we need to change that. And imbalance doesn't necessarily mean your weak either. It can just mean that your recruitment pattern isn't very, isn't very good, or that you have a recruitment pattern that you've solidified because of, let's say you always run, or you always carry a purse, and now your recruitment pattern is set in a way. A carrier of satchel, does that count as a purse?
Starting point is 00:42:19 No, no, that's totally masculine. Okay, good. Keep telling them that. Yeah, you and feel good if you know it's like more like indiana jones but it's kind of a person care your weapon it yeah your uh... your recruitment patterns gets solidified by read this repetitive motion over and over again
Starting point is 00:42:35 and if that becomes your default recruitment pattern sometimes it's not a good thing and that can cause problems you know i mean like imagine if i uh... you'll see that actually you'll see this sometimes in violin players, you know, violin players will pinch the violin between their neck and cheek and their shoulder and they'll develop muscle in recruitment patterns that strengthen that position and sometimes they'll have nick issues or shoulder issues on that side. So, you know,'s kind of an extreme example, but you kind of get the point. Well, you think about it.
Starting point is 00:43:09 Most people that have a skill type of activity that they're doing all the time, they're going to develop an imbalance because like you just mentioned with the violin, it's a very specific set of skills that your body's trying to make the most efficient way possible happen. And the more frequently you do that, the more your body's going to adapt to produce that movement more efficiently. And so that's going to take away
Starting point is 00:43:35 from the overall balance of your body in general. And you're going to see this through any type of sport or type of position that you're fixed in constantly. It's really, it's a battle of numbers. It's how long are you doing these very specific types of movements, your body's going to try and organize in such a way that that's going to make everything so much more efficient doing that one thing? Well, just, I mean, I think that's so, so right on. And the more that people, like, let's say you don't have anything visual
Starting point is 00:44:06 and you don't have any like pain indicators, but you still could have some major imbalances. And more than likely, arguably when you get pain, it's too late. Exactly. It's already been going for a very long time. And so you can just, you can just know right away if you have a profession that requires you to be in a stationary position,
Starting point is 00:44:28 whether it be standing a certain way or sitting a certain way for long periods of the time, like all day long, or even like I've had this is common with my teachers that like ride on whiteboards, like all day long, right? They're constantly lecturing and riding on whiteboards with their right hand and they're elevated like that. So if you can look at your profession and look at what your day looks like, if you're doing something that's very repetitive, more than likely, you are creating major imbalances. And whether they have caused aches and pains yet, that's, I don't know, that's only you know that. Like, if you're not, but don't think for a second just because you don't have the aches or pains
Starting point is 00:45:06 Yeah, that they they may not be they may be coming for sure You can also see Like I had a major Like I used to I remember like when I was like first getting into lifting weights and My my left pec was much bigger than the right pec it was very obvious to me I love the left ones my favorite one by the way. I would look in the I would look in the mirror and I could see the I always pinching the development was Totally different and so and what was happening, you know was whenever I was doing a press so if I had chest press
Starting point is 00:45:40 I was I was allowing my my right shoulder slightly roll forward, which that was very common because that's what I used to write with. So when I write on paper or drive, or do anything I have this, your right arm forward. And so that would just, naturally my right shoulder would be just slightly rolled forward more than the left one. So when I would go to get into like a chest press, it was very comfortable and normal for me to retract
Starting point is 00:46:03 the left shoulder, but the right one was overactive and rolled forward so much that even when I would get in a retracted position, I was a trainer, I knew good form, I still would have it with my that recruitment pattern still wanted that shoulder to roll forward. And so even though I'm dumbbell pressing, I'm doing a lot of good movements like that, where it's not just a straight barbell to where I have independent arms that are moving so they'd have to stabilize. I still would get this shoulder kind of rolling
Starting point is 00:46:33 a little forward and it would create this imbalance in my chest. So, and I've had the same issue with my back. And so now when I go to retract and do like dead lifting and this happened to me just recently when I was chasing after Sal and his dead lifting PRs and I was so focused on lifting heavy and this is where like you this is where I think a lot of lifters get in trouble is if you have just the slightest little imbalance it will it will be exaggerated by 10 fold when you start lifting like
Starting point is 00:47:02 really, really heavy weight. This is why getting stronger isn't always great. It's not a good thing. If you get stronger with an imbalance, you're only making the imbalance stronger. Yeah, I've had more issues this last probably year or two that I've been fixing and addressing. And a lot of that is because I had all the same issues before, but they became very obvious when I started lifting really heavy and I became so caught up in pushing the weights up and chasing PRs that all of a sudden I started getting
Starting point is 00:47:32 this, you know, it pained my back and then it radiated to my shoulder, then my elbow and then it was just a whole mess of things and it was all stemming from a very small imbalance that I continued to push through instead of addressing because I became so focused on the way. So, you know, it's, and to be truthful, most people have somewhat of an imbalance.
Starting point is 00:47:53 It's, I can't remember the last time I got somebody and I assessed them and I went, hey, guess what? You are perfect, you got great posture, man. That's rare. It's very, very rare. No, it's a game of, you know, identifying the imbalances before they become too big and addressing them and constantly is if you're a, you know, you train people for long periods of time, that's what your, your job is. Initially, it becomes,
Starting point is 00:48:16 get this person to move, get them a little stronger, but then after a year or two, it's about identifying imbalances before they become problems, correcting them, and adjusting the workouts accordingly. But imbalances are, I mean, I just thought of one like, I would get women that would come hire me after they just had their baby. So they'd be, you know, the baby would be like six months older whatever, and they're like, okay, now I'm motivated to come work out. And I'd see an imbalance from right to left with their, with their QL, and they're, and because when they'd hold their baby they'd push push their hip out Yeah, and they'd always hold the baby on one side
Starting point is 00:48:49 Yeah, and you'd see that and it was clear to me they they couldn't see it But I could see and I knew that that could that would turn into Hip hip especially in the SI joint would cause problems for them. I mean pay attention to the small signals like Do you always cross your legs the same way? Like is it always right over left? Try left over right. Does that feel weird and tight? If it does, you have an imbalance. And what you should probably do is start sitting with your left leg crossed, you know? I mean, I noticed that myself, like when I lay down flat on the floor and I put
Starting point is 00:49:18 my legs out, my right foot wants to turn out more than my left. And why? Because I tend to cross right over left, like I'm doing right now. So these are all little things that you've got. Side that you roll on and when you sleep, like if you have a side that you always roll on to versus the other or if you have a part. That impacted my shoulder a bit. If you have an arm that you put up above and the other one you don't, like these are all little, I mean, even my externally rotated feet, you know, just like noticing that as you're sitting or you're standing or whatever and just like, you know, going in. You know, a mind and it was, it was Dr. Brink who pointed this out. I just, I had a slight pronation in my right ankle.
Starting point is 00:49:53 Just the slightest little pronation. And that is, has caused knee issues. It's called hip, it's caused hip issues and it's caused back issues. So it literally was stimming all the way down to my ankle and I had this slight little deviation that I wasn't addressing. I was continuing to lift, I was pushing through that, and then all these other issues were starting to radiate from that. Another obvious one is your mechanics. So if you're doing a movement, and when you go to do a movement,
Starting point is 00:50:21 and like, let's say you have maps, and you have the videos of us dimmiling things, and it doesn't look the same when you do it. That's a pretty obvious. If you go to do a barbell press, and when you finish the press, one side, the bar is unleveled, or you're doing movements, and the one dumbbells way more forward than the other, or elevated an inch more than the other one, all these, if you mechanically are off on your on your movements, that's a pretty obvious one too, which you know,
Starting point is 00:50:51 that's probably the first place I tell someone to look is like, you know, start paying attention to your form. And if you struggle having like, that's a good point. That's kind of easy, right? It's like, yeah, right away, like, you know, start assessing all of your, your exercises right now and pay attention to, you know, when you do the mechanics, when you do the exercise, can you keep extremely strict form? And if you struggle to keep very strict form,
Starting point is 00:51:12 there's probably an imbalance that's related to that. Well, not only that, but, you know, immerse yourself in different types of movements. So like see, understand what your capabilities are too. So like, you're not really gonna understand that you have an imbalance till say like I'd never reach back and now I started to reach back and oh my God, I can't. You know, this is why I love the Turkish get up. You want to move that will just like point out.
Starting point is 00:51:38 I like most exactly. Exactly. It's it's it's it's it's totally like it's from it's from head to toe. That's why I love everything has to work Yeah, you want to point out you want to see so which why I think a lot of people ignore it and they don't do it They just oh they're not good at it. I'm sorry, so they just just just just to get it. Oh no that's why you should do it Yeah, it's an excellent between the the Turkish get up and probably a squat in my opinion are two of the best movements Somebody can do to a set which that is why we have a squad assessment.
Starting point is 00:52:05 I mean, the squad assessment, I don't even remember how long it's been around. It's probably been around for about 10 years or so. Well, I remember when I first started trying to do a windmill with the kettlebell. I could not, it was a three months ago, maybe four months ago, I could not get into a windmill with no weight. I couldn't twist and bend at the same time.
Starting point is 00:52:21 And your palm is touching the ground. Now I can do a windmill with an 80 pound kettlebell, and I did it one the other day with I think a 40 pound kettlebell where I actually brought my palm all the way down on the floor. And that's just the movement. It was weird. When we first started talking about windmills and I knew how important they were and I went to go try
Starting point is 00:52:37 and I couldn't fucking do it at all. It was eye opening. That's awesome. Well, because what it got me into them was because I had hurt my QL, and so that was one of those things where it was like, shit, you know, I already felt my body compensating for that, and I had this like very glaring imbalance,
Starting point is 00:52:56 and I'm like, well, that was one of those moves that really challenged me. You need to had to like incrementally work my way through it. And you need to know that you have to understand, we this all the time, but really I mean your body is an adaptation machine. It will mold itself and adapt itself to your environment as well as it can. In fact, when scientists go and dig up old bones from, you know, long bow long Bowman. Youmen, from the Middle Ages. These were soldiers that were experts at pulling these incredibly powerful Longbow's, which is one of the reasons why England had dominance militarily at that time,
Starting point is 00:53:36 because these guys were able to shoot so far with these very powerful bow. They can tell you which one are Longbowmen, because the spine is twisted and formed in the direction of where they would pull and the right arm or whichever arm they used to pull was the bone was noticeably thicker and more dense and they had these twisted almost scoliosis type backs because they had been trained since they were children to pull on these heavy bows and their bodies just adapted to what they did. I'm sure they were very good at what they did, but they also, I'm sure they had lots
Starting point is 00:54:08 of pain and problems in everyday life, but your body will mold itself. And you know, in fact, when they find, when you have people who've been really, really obese for long periods of time, their lower body bone density is always very high because they're carrying this heavy load all the time. And anecdotally, you'll see people who lose lots of weight after being very, very overweight and you'll see them still have very thick. So you see, they didn't start out big bone. No, that excuse I was afraid.
Starting point is 00:54:37 Yeah, I'm big bone, man. But the body does that. It's pretty amazing. Yeah. Brenda, for IS 51, do you think Neutropic infused coffee will be mainstream at Starbucks and pizza and that type of place? Probably not. I know, I totally disagree.
Starting point is 00:54:52 I'll allow. Yeah, I 100% say yes and here's why. I think in the Silicon Valley, it's got a chance. I'll tell you why because we've gradually seen coffee morph and actually just happened over a rather quick period time because when I was a kid okay it wasn't that long though it's just Folgers bro when I was Folgers back then when I was a kid coffee was coffee it was that's it you went to fucking McDonald's got your coffee at the same time they're smoking cigarettes Starbucks CEO step down yes crazy
Starting point is 00:55:22 I texted you guys that yeah it's crazy well you step down. Yes, crazy. I texted you guys that. Yeah, it was crazy. Well, he stepped down to be powered sholts, right? He had sholts, yeah. And what's interesting about that is I have really respect the guy because he's going back to the roots of how do we improve, how do we maintain being the standard?
Starting point is 00:55:39 They created this entire ecosystem. Oh, they created a market. They created a market for sure. Well, he, you know, like, I got Steve Jobs of coffee, right? Well, okay, so when Starbucks came out and came to America, you got, you know, people were paying 50 cents for a cup of coffee and it was very like, just giving my fucking coffee
Starting point is 00:55:57 and I'm out of here. He comes and he introduces something and starts saying, we're gonna charge like four bucks for a cup of coffee. Like that was a crazy, crazy thing to do, but now, I love that too, but now people spend hundreds of dollars of coffee every single month. They buy their gourmet coffees, they like different flavors.
Starting point is 00:56:16 Of course, this has been going on in Europe for a long time. Italy had been doing this for a long time. So then that's where he had identified this. Coffee has become such a huge market in America and in niche market where you've got all these kind of enthusiasts. Now you're seeing places have a blend coffee with butter and coconut oil, whole foods does it in fact. Starbucks is starting to do, they have cold brews now everywhere.
Starting point is 00:56:39 Starbucks is infusing coffee now with nitrogen so they're doing nitro coffee. It is a matter of time before a nitropics, and this is why I think that I'm gonna speak, and yet they still have milkshinks. Well, I mean, I'm gonna speak a little bit about our sponsors because they're really the only coffee, I think I know of, or at least one of the bigger brands that infuse in nitropics and coffee.
Starting point is 00:57:00 I don't know any of this. I don't know any of this, especially all natural. You don't care about them anyway. No, and I can see other places doing this because you do notice a difference, especially if you're the kind of person that is can be sensitive to caffeine or kind of gets a crash from coffee after the effect wears off or you know, you're really sensitive to your body and you like to feel the effects of coffee, but sometimes you get agitated or a little anxious from it. The Neutropics and Camera, for example, like the theanine, for example, amino acid, that
Starting point is 00:57:32 gives you this calm focus. You combine it with caffeine and you get this smooth kind of energy buzz. I used to, before we were introduced to Camera, I used to take theanine pills with coffee because it would give me this smoother, more focused kind of buzz. And that's the thing about central nervous system stimulants. There's a good effect and then there can be too much. Like if you get overstimulated and I think everybody's experienced that right where you
Starting point is 00:57:56 had too much coffee, you become less productive. It's like your jitter, you can't really focus. So this is kind of nice medium where you wanna be. And theinein help do that. And then you have the DNA in there, the alpha GPC. These are, you know, colon, you know, based molecules that I know in Europe, for example, alpha GPC is prescribed to people with Alzheimer's
Starting point is 00:58:18 because it improves their cognition. And in regular people, it improves the membrane of certain, you know certain cells in the brain So it makes it it's good for your brain and When I combine neutropics with caffeine I get a different high. It's longer lasting I don't crash. I don't get the agitation from it. That's the best part about it for sure Right, and I think because people have now demonstrated that they're willing to spend more money For coffee because you can go get a fucking frappuccino for five bucks now because of flavor or because
Starting point is 00:58:48 of effects or whatever. I 100% think there's going to be, I don't think it'll be the main market. I don't think anything's going to ever replace your good old fashioned drip coffee. But I definitely think there's a niche market and there's enough of a market for, I think the main players are going to start doing that. I think it's a lot like this. I think, that. I think it's a lot like the fitness industry. We see how it's all sort of, instead of the big, huge box gym, it's evolving into a lot of these little specialized type facilities and studios.
Starting point is 00:59:21 I feel like that's a lot of the reason why the CEO stepped down from Starbucks because he wanted to get back into the research of what will help optimize health. How are ways that we can use coffee to be more than just a stimulant or more than just something tasty? He's really going back into the roots and the research of it because there's a lot of these smaller companies that are branching out that are realizing the health benefits to it and then also like different ways to combine things with them. And I think it's going to be interesting to see what direction coffee is going to take
Starting point is 01:00:03 with all these little micro breweries all over the world. I think some of the best thing to happen to coffee were the recent, rather recent studies that came out to show the health benefits of coffee. Coffee, now for those of you who have a really poor intolerance to caffeine, you know who you are, if you drink caffeine and you probably avoid it because it gives you heart palpitations
Starting point is 01:00:24 and all these other things, this isn't for you or maybe you drink decaf because decaf has its own health benefits but for those of you that can tolerate caffeine the the studies on coffee is incredible man the anti cancer effects for the liver for the skin the uh... at the antioxidant effects for the body the the brain boosting and protecting effects and the neuro protective effects of coffee and protecting effects, the neuro protective effects of coffee, and the studies show the more you drink the better, especially for people have a good tolerance for it. So, that's some of the best news to ever come out, because for a while there, they were
Starting point is 01:00:56 doing studies of show, and there were studies that showed coffee was bad for you, and that's because they never separated the fact that people would drink coffee also smoked cigarettes, and they didn't separate this too, But now that they've separated them, like coffee is a health food, which is fucking awesome. You guys have like Dave Asprey promoting his bulletproof coffee and not stuff for health. And then the fasting movement, you know, incorporating coffee, that's the best thing
Starting point is 01:01:15 that ever happened, I think coffee. Well, I think when we, I mean, we're, I feel like this question would have been so much better, ask me the same question in about two weeks. And the reason why I say that is we're right in the middle of brewing all this. This question would have been so much better. Ask me the same question in about two weeks. The reason why I say that is we're right in the middle of brewing all this. The reason why I disagreed with you at first and you're slowly selling me on it right now is right away I was thinking the dollar were out.
Starting point is 01:01:38 Neutropics are the most expensive part of Chi-Amera. The reason why it's more expensive coffee is the Neutropics. If there's anybody that ever goes on to go look at it, they're like, oh my God, it's so expensive. They think they're comparing it to regular coffee. Well, yeah, it's going to seem really expensive if you compare it to a normal bag of coffee, but the expensive part is the new tropics. If you go buy a bottle of new tropics by themselves, you're going to spend anywhere from $25 to $50 a bottle by itself. That's where the real money is at.
Starting point is 01:02:06 So I'm interested to see when we make this batch. So when we call brew, we call brew, we nitro, and I can look at what it costs us to do that, and what we'd have to sell it at for there to be the right margins to make it feasible. Then I think I can answer this question even better, because that's the only thing that I would say, well, if it dries a cup of coffee up to $7,
Starting point is 01:02:32 I don't see people paying that much money. It depends on the motivation. I drink coffee, I don't necessarily, I don't really drink coffee because I enjoy, I do like to taste a coffee, but that's not why I'm drinking. I actually, to be clear, I don't drink anything for the taste. I'm not a drink, I don't think about like, ooh, let me get this bottle of wine,
Starting point is 01:02:52 or let me drink this soda, or. Yes, we've covered it, you're weird. No, I just, I drink water. Like if I'm gonna drink something in water, if I want something for taste, it's food, and so I'm just not one of those people, I drink coffee, I don't even know if you eat that way, I think I just know I do I think you eat for I think you eat for the for the performance. Yeah. Oh, no, no
Starting point is 01:03:10 I love don't get me wrong. I love the sardines and fucking listen You know what you talked shit about that. I'm so fantastic since I talked about sardines We've had so many people in the forum try them and say that they like to taste sardines aren't anchovies They taste different. They're just a just because it the majority, does not necessarily mean it's right. Sometimes the majority just means all the fools are on the same side. Oh yeah. That's all that means. All you fools in here, Sardines.
Starting point is 01:03:32 I wouldn't say it's the majority. Sardines, Sardines, tastes delicious. Anytime cell does anything. There's always a wave of bunch of people right afterwards that do. We know that. Someone's resentful. Some of Adjelists. Somebody's a resentful.
Starting point is 01:03:43 No, no, no. Here's the thing. I just try to keep you honest resentful. No, you know, here's the thing. I drink coffee. I just try to keep you honest. Like you tell everybody that you eat it for taste. I'm like, oh, I fucking love the taste. It's your story. No.
Starting point is 01:03:52 I do. I drink coffee for the effects. I like the high, I like the caffeine high from coffee. I like the neutropic effects of coffee. I've just caffeine. I love the effects of coffee with neutropics in it, like the DMAE, the alpha GPC, the Theonine, the Toring, because it's a better high.
Starting point is 01:04:12 I take it because it boosts my motivation. It gives me a good workout. It's the best pre-workout I've ever used. It's like high octane coffee that way. That's it. So if you're taking it for Neutropic effects if you're taking it because you like the high if you're taking it as a pre workout if you're taking it For effects other than just the taste and a little bit of caffeine Then I think people will spend the money
Starting point is 01:04:40 Just like they do on supplements and other shit that you know that sometimes does nothing for them If you're doing it just for the taste and just because you left coffee well Yeah, there's no value in it for you. You know what I'm saying? You just want coffee, you like to taste a coffee, you could give a shit about the effects than who cares. You should explain the compounding effect that happens to with that because it's not anything people don't realize that, you know, the more you drink, the more that sort of thing. Yeah, so I, so since we got sponsored through Camara, before we got sponsored through Camara, we, I was drinking it consistently for about a month or two months because I wanted to test it I don't want to support anything I don't like and I really liked the effects especially after using it for about two or three weeks
Starting point is 01:05:13 I could I'm like man, I feel smooth. I feel good. It's right around this point that normal coffee I'd have to Stop drinking it because it would give me negative effects, but this doesn't seem to be doing that Then we you know we got sponsored whatever then I stopped drinking it for a while because I had run out and I wanted to order it and I had forgot or whatever. That's when I noticed a difference because then I started drinking espresso and I started noticing some of the negatives
Starting point is 01:05:35 that I used to get from regular coffee. So that's when I started noticing when I stopped drinking and drinking something else then I could tell the big difference. And now I'm drinking it more regularly. So, but yeah, I drink it for the high, man. I like the way I feel when I drink it. And it's a, I work on the morning.
Starting point is 01:05:50 So I drink it before my workout 30 minutes before. Do my work out. Most people that are like, that are big fans of Kymar Coffee, they're interested in new tropics. You know, very, very few people. They like the high of it. Yeah, they're, they notice, and I think that's the number one thing that I get when people give me feedback is, man, I just,
Starting point is 01:06:07 I don't feel like I crash. I don't feel like I crash after I get the energy from it. It feels clean, it feels pure and then I don't feel like I have this dip. I feel good all day long. Exactly. So, and by the way, you can get a discount on Camera. I'm just going to do the plug here. If you go on their site, order it and then use the coupon code mine pump, you'll get a discount. Also, if you like mine pump, leave us a five star rating review which is going to do the plug here. If you go on their site, order it, and then use the coupon code, MindPump.
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