Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 435: The Secret of Jujimufu's Success

Episode Date: January 12, 2017

Jujimufu is back, and this time Sal, Adam & Justin dig deep into his background, his creative process, achieving social media success, eating spiders and more! Brought to you by Kimera Koffee! Get Jujimufu's own blend at www.kimerakoffee.com, code "mindpump" for 10% off! Get MAPS Prime, MAPS Anywhere, MAPS Anabolic, MAPS Performance, MAPS Aesthetic, the Butt Builder Blueprint AND the Sexy Athlete Mod (The MAPS Super Bundle) packaged together at a substantial DISCOUNT at www.mindpumpmedia.com. Make EVERY workout better with our newest program, MAPS Prime, the only pre-workout you need… it is now available at mindpumpmedia.com Have Sal, Adam & Justin personally train you via video instruction on our YouTube channel, Mind Pump TV. Be sure to Subscribe for updates. Add to the incredible brain enhancing effect of Kimera Koffee with www.brain.fm/mindpump 10 Free sessions! Music for the brain for incredible focus, sleep and naps! Please subscribe, rate and review this show! Each week our favorite reviewers are announced on the show and sent Mind Pump T-shirts!

I don't even know if I'm saying it right. No one of us do. I don't think anybody does. You guys, that's just beautiful. You guys, Kimura. You guys drink. I'm Kimura. You guys drink Kimura.

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Juigi, what does it do to you, my brother? I love your coffee, Juigi. Thanks. My blend's a dark roast. Oh, hey, hey. If you like a black. You know what I'm saying? You know what I love?

They're super cool. You'll never know guys. But the quality of the coffee, I was at the roastery recently and they showed me the difference between their beans and brands I'm not mentioning. Oh, wow. And it was actually cool to actually see a first hand, like one hand full of the beans that Camaro uses and one hand of beans that nationwide brand that I'm not naming uses. And it was like holy shit.

So they're using dust and we're using coffee beans. That's kind of great Oh, what did you what did you notice between the two was it like literally not beans? They were like all yeah, it would look like fucking twigs and shit that the other one was using this was like coffee beans It was great. I'm not making the shit up. I was like wow I was actually sitting there. I had all these coffee beans in my hand was like eating them like munching on them It was really cool, but that's like, okay, that sort of exploits what quality of charge so much for it too, you know, so you went to the farm and there was a Dominican Republic.

Yeah, it was a Jaco roba. Can you remember the name of the place? I was that, yeah, it was super cool, man. I saw that you guys did the Christmas gifts, the giveaway and everything. Jero, Jeroba Coba. Okay, there it is.

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you can click on the link right there on the front page. If you wanna pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. Mind, hop, mind,, up with your hosts. Salta Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. Where can they find Juigi Mufu? Find me on Instagram slash Juigi Mufu, J-U-J-I-M-U-F-U, and my website, acroballix.com.

That's A-C-R-O-O-B-O-L-I-X. That's acroballic. Acrobatic, anabolic, acroballix. So let me try that again. No, no, no, no. I-X, that's acrobatic. Acrobatic, anabolic, acrobolic. So, let me try that again. No, no, no. I love it, shit. No, no, no. You're right, let me just spell my,

I've actually misspelled my name before. I'm not a grass before. That's bullshit. What's the website? Acrobolic. Acrobolic, how do you spell that? A-C-R-O-B-O-L-I-X.com. Check them out.

He's the man. Here we are interviewing, Juji Mufu. I'm gonna do one thing, and Adam's gonna jump on. Watch. Mark my work. Ready?

Yeah. Oh. That's your song, bro. Check it. We're not doing this. Yeah, see you. He's smiling. He knows.

Bow. See, tell you, there it is. It's the only one I know, dude. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Did I ever tell you there this is the only one I know dude. Oh Oh, yeah, do I ever tell you guys about the time I want to send John this video that we just did so did I ever tell you guys about the time I just put my phone in airplane mode Oh, you did I don't want to fucking ring your Get it don't worry. I'll just silence. I can still send it to you though. Is it the one where I ate the spider?

Yeah, oh is it good? I want to I actually haven't watched it since I just saw it. I'm not sure. I just wanted to give that book. I don't know why she swallowed the fly. Perhaps she'll die. Oh yeah. I hope you don't die. Little Miss Spider.

Wait, Little Miss. Tough it, set it on a muffin. Tough it. Eating her curds. She sat on her mother. Eating her curds in a way. Oh, God, her curds her way. A lung came a spider who sat down.

Crap down to cider and It's scared little miss muffin away. She didn't eat the damn spider. I can't No, she wasn't as brave as me. She fucking ran away. I can't marry a man like me I'll eat the spider for you. What you'll ever crawl down your throat. Did the spider have a flavor? Movement movement What flavor crawl down your throat? Did the spider have a flavor? Movement. Movement, you can feel it crawling around your mouth. It tastes like movement. Yeah, I had to pinch it with my front teeth to make it stuff. Oh, damn it, that's disgusting.

Oh, God, I'm a maniac. I'm gonna post it right now. It's such a great thing. It'd tickle at all, like it was just like, I didn't let it tickle me. I was keeping it from moving to the back of my mouth. You know what you are, dude? That's good.

You're that guy that you have to be friends with because you know you're gonna hang out and he's gonna do some shit that's perfect. Some shit's gonna go down. Yeah, like, like, oh, what are we doing today? I don't know, I was gonna be hanging out. Is Georgie gonna be there? Well, yeah.

Oh my God, it's gonna be awesome. He's gonna do some crazy shit. He's gonna do split. He's gonna do split. He's gonna do split. Like, you're gonna blow some shit up. You're like the Ozzy Osborne of fitness. Yes.

Yes. That is a great call. That's exactly what it is. Did I ever tell you guys about the time where I got in big trouble in my English class? It's a crazy train. In English class in high school because, so I had this teacher who,

either a journalism or English, I don't remember. Anyway, big overweight teacher, she fucking hated me, which is why? Because I have a big mouth, but whatever. And I couldn't stand her. So she would be late to class, right? So we'd be sitting in class, fuck around and she'd like come barging in.

Well, one day she was late and she'd like, busts open the doors and she had this big red sweater on. So she like breaks the doors open and I'm like, oh yeah. She's like, oh, I'm like, oh, yeah I did the cool a dude. Oh, it's awesome got kicked out. How old really? Oh She knew it it was she caught the reference dude cool. It was huge when I was a sophomore I was probably a 96 95 maybe I was a sophomore in high school. That's when it was. Yeah. Did you guys ever do anything, where you a good student to the teachers?

Oh, yeah, were you, were you, were you like, I feel like you had 80, you like a prankster. Did you have 80D? No, it's like a real calm and polite. Were you? Yeah, yeah.

Like that's, he is like that though. Yeah, okay, yeah, let's go back to high school again. What would you, what would you clap? Were you a, a jock, a nerd, a like a kind of, you know, an emo kid? What were you like?

What were you like in high school? I was that guy that was in the head like a friend in every one of those groups and no one knew who he was. And then he always and then he always left school around the afternoon. Oh yeah. Yeah, because I co-opped. It was a program most people didn't know about. So my school was only from like 80 I'm the 12 p.m. And everyone's the else day till three well I left and worked out went to the gym and then I worked a job I worked at my gym so I would just leave school and go work out my okay So basically I wasn't at school very much and all my friends were scattered between

Okay, well, yeah, that guy. Oh, yeah, I forgot he goes with us That guy that's oh yeah him I forgot he goes to with us How did you did you like the Lego movie? How did you want this deal? I come on backup here. There's plenty of kids that are in high school that probably a smart kid and probably past most of his classes by the time He was a sophomore is that true? Is that what how did you swing that there? There's a program most people didn't know about it was called co-op you basically had to have a job and work so many hours after school in Order to be in the program So I got a job at my gym which was right across the street from the school. Oh, this is it was a fucking sickest setup in

the world. And this was perfect. What part was it late? Senior year or did you do this all through high school pretty much junior and senior year because that you can't do it as a sophomore. I had to be able to drive. So I couldn't drive as a sophomore. You don't get your driver's license in the US until you're six. Now you sound like you sound like you were a very responsible high school student because you worked and went to school. I mean, did you party a lot or was that like no? No, no, I didn't. I didn't party at all.

I mean, all I wanted to do was just fit, just communicate with my friends online. These like internet forums and just work out and post video. Same shit. I'm doing. Bro, he's the same shit. I'm doing bro. He's the same shit. I'm doing that. Pretty much high school. Yeah. Yeah. I didn't really have a high school life. I didn't get to like my fucking dances or anything. Dude, me and you are are very, very similar. We're like twins except you're way more muscular and athletic. Yeah. Other than that, we're the same better hairs than you. Other than that,

we're exactly the same. Yeah. Yeah. I like it. Sorry. I like it. We're all. Yeah. Yeah. I like it. So we had a program But it was I don't remember what they called it But we had to have like once you accomplished it was called it was called flunking Your parents let it eat. Oh, yes, throw it back in Yeah, right? Okay, except it doesn't get it right he wasn't cool So a long a long juggling multiple sports. I still carried like a 3.3 and that was without doing any home or two. So I don't, you know, I wasn't reading encyclopedias like some people were, but what were you able to do? Like if you were, so if you did do well in school

and you actually had your unit knocked out, so my senior year, I only, I got to go to school at, I didn't start school until 10 and I got out by I think 130 or two. So I was able to get rid of two classes. And you could choose when and what time you got rid of them. So I got rid of the early morning class and then my last class. So I get to sleep in. I got to leave school early because I so sick. So I took, you know, looking back now as a kid, that was really an idea because I was like, this is awesome. Now I can go to, which I chose to go to work after school when I get to sleep in. You know, of course, now you go, oh, I probably could have taken some after school and I get to sleep in. You know, of course now you go,

oh, I probably could have taken some electives and some classes then would have probably furthered me along. I filled mine up with cartooning. And it was awesome. What do you mean? Yeah, we had a class, like an elective class so you could pick.

It was cartooning. Did you get, did you, did you draw like, did you draw a scene cartoon? I did actually, I got to wait with some, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, I told him about that. I've told you, that would sell. I do him about that. I've told you that would sell. I really would.

You know, he put a nice little hat on it. You know, it's cold outside. It's winter. It's December. I believe someone's probably dead. I've done these before. Yeah. What was everybody?

What was everybody? What did you guys all envision yourself being as far as like what you would do for a career in high school? Do you remember what you do? Do you remember what you're going to be? Do you remember what you wanted to be when you were in high school? All I knew is I just wanted to do something that had to do with fitness. Oh, so even in high school, you you remember what you're gonna be? Do you remember what you wanted to be when you were in high school? Oh, I knew as I just wanted to do something that had to do with fitness. Oh, so even in high school, you had a pretty good idea that's right.

Oh, that's cool. We have a lot in common. That didn't come for me till later. Dude, so you won. You won, won, won. You won, won, won. You won, dude. You won, life. You won, life. Congratulations, you won.

That's very good. Let's over start over now. What does he win? Yeah, because are we allowed to say what you're doing now full time? Yeah. Yeah, I mean, this is it now. Full time, your jujimufu full time, it's all about your fitness business. You don't do any of the work.

And I'm all like acrobat. Yeah. And that's recent, right? I just happened to... Right, I just put in my two weeks notice to my job three weeks ago, which means that I've been free for a week. Ah! It was my new year's resolution, dude.

It was like... Oh, it's like, most people start their new year this year, I'm gonna do this, was like, I know how to get a good start in the new year. I'm gonna quit my job. I'm gonna quit my job. That had been an awesome year. I'm sure that would you leave burning things and throwing stuff and exploding shit.

How did it go down? Who's coming with me, we go bitch. I just imagine I'm doing back flips all the way out, like, yeah, scream, Bob. Was your boss cool about it? How'd they take it? He wasn't surprised. He's really, he's gonna, he misses me,

but he wasn't surprised. They knew you were heading out. They knew that what I was doing in my spare time at work. I'm sure. They're like, he's not just sitting there like digging around. He's working on something. I'm sure. It goes in my not just sitting there like, digging around. He's working on something. I see him.

He's working on something. He goes to my office and there's acrovolics, stickers on my laptop, my notebook, there's like, work out equipment, just sitting in there, the box is full of like, products. Come on.

He's like, I know he's doing something. When, at what point did you grow that people at work and around you that you see on a regular basis connected it? Because you don't strike me as a guy that either would be going around like, oh, I do this. Oh, I tell him about it. You probably, I can imagine you going to work, doing your fucking job, doing it well, and then when you come home, then you switch your other coat into your other Superman cape.

Yeah, I kept it on the download as long as I could. So it wasn't until America's got talent when they saw me on TV that they knew what I was doing. They didn't know I were, they just knew I was, I was a big guy that worked out and ate a lot. And then, and they saw me on America's got talent in the April of 2016 and they're like, hey, your secret's out. We basically know what you do now. They don't, they don't even know you,

they didn't know you did like back flips and all that shit. No, no, no, they didn't know. Just some big smart do-go-go-go-go-go. Oh, that's crazy. Wow, what is the next, now that you're full time, like what is the next five years look like? What are you looking to do or grow or focus on? Well, I have to grow what I'm doing now,

add value, my value I have is unique, I think, and I can just make people be appreciative of shit fitness. Just enjoy the process and find their own way, but I just wanna change, I think physical culture has too much of this negative baggage and, I don't know, God damn it, dude. No, no, no.

Yeah, it's just like, people think like working out to sacrifice and oh, God, it's like I'm so much better than you, because I go to the gym and it's so hard, no, it's nice, I love it, I enjoy it. I just want more people to have fun with it and dick around and and just just play well I think that's I think that's why it's why it's yeah, so I we appreciate it Yes, I think that's why we like you so much is that I think there's a way to And I think what you do because and there's and don't get me wrong

There's people that that hardcore bash people that that do crazy moves and exercises and things that you do. Oh my God, you shouldn't be sharing that. You're going to hurt people. Oh my God, that's so sad. But the way you do it is not like that. It's not like, hey, you should go try and do this because I can do this or I'm super cool because I do this.

You humanize yourself, almost like you're making fun of yourself while you're doing it, which is something that we talk a lot about that I think that's so important. And you do it in such a fun manner that, this is what health and fitness should be like. It should be a fun journey for people. It shouldn't be this major sacrifice. And I mean, I got, I don't know how many times I've, we're over here watching your videos.

The last crazy one that I loved that you did was the rubber band one that you did not too long ago. I mean, were you suspended your entire body by doing that? Oh, that was awesome. How many, did you, did you, that, I wanna know the behind the scenes, the bloopers of that. Like, when did you figure out how many of those get into that?

Yeah, right. Yeah. It took an hour to do it. Yeah, well, it was, I would do a set with a lighter weight, of course. And then I would feel out the bands and then I'd start adding bands to certain places and moving around.

And it took me about an hour to get it right All the bands set and all the adjust on all the way their amount it just right and then I just fucking took off my clothes and Trident and I was in a hurry. I was actually in a hurry I had a date with my wife like half an hour. I was supposed to meet her to library It was like rushing to do so right after I did that said I like I just put on my clothes real quick ran out the door and just drove over there. You did that by yourself. Yeah, you filmed it all on your own Yeah, it was a little dangerous. I was just I Snap around you and shit and then your wife finds you in this weird like in the bands

It's like he's into some weird shit mummified over here. Yeah What is your what is what was so far because that one I that one must have gone viral because I saw that one posted on Several fitness page that one the underwater one you did what's your most viral video? What are your top videos the two most viral videos I have are the overhead barbell chair split video Original one original one. That's the one to start everything and the one that actually Gave me the most followers, but I already had more followers at the time was the underwater one. So I think I had something like almost 500,000 followers

when I posted that. I remember I posted that I'm walking down the streets, I was at a town, I was actually in San Jose. So I was walking down the streets from an expo hall to a whole foods where walk back to the hotel where I was gonna stop getting some groceries. And I was like, yeah, you were walking down the streets.

I just broke 500,000. We were walking a store, I buy a couple cans of sardines, like a green juice and some bread or something for like eating in the hotel room. I walked back out and refreshed it. It's like 515,000. Wow. I gained 15,000 followers in the total time

of walking in the grocery store and back out. Wow. And I was like, what the fuck? I just started refreshing it with my thumb and I could do it a few times and it'd see it go up one more K each. Wow. I was like, what the fuck? I just started refreshing it with my thumb and I could do it a few times and it'd see it go up one more K each. Wow. I was like, this is fucked up.

This is fucking, this is fucking, this is off the fuck, I mean, I gained like 120, 150, fucking thousand followers in like a day and a half on that shit. It was absurd. It's fascinating. Wow.

That's very fast. My favorite part of the story is that he eats our deans. Oh man. I knew you guys were like, you guys made fun of me for all my good. Oh my god, I eat them. I, that's very fast. My favorite part of the story is that he eats sardines. Oh, man I know you guys were like, you guys made fun of me for my god. I eat them I like booze and buddies all every fucking night with like cucumbers like fucking crackers and like some hummus Such a great source of Omega threes. They don't they taste amazing They're low on the totem poles with a low in mercury and other types of you know heavy metals sardines man They're cost effective.

They're, you don't have to refrigerate them. You can, God, there's some, if you could just get past the taste, which if you buy a good can of sardines. They're not in olive oil, they're good. Spend the extra fucking buck on a good can of sardines. They're like delicious. They are.

You know what? We messed up here. We should have gotten like, an affiliate code or something. Yeah. Because I bet people are gonna be buying stuff. The one with the one with the Captain Bristling Springs. What is the guy with the like the mustache? Oh, I see that one.

I do the wild planet. 10% coupon code. Wild, what's your favorite? What's your favorite? I do the wild planet. Yeah, I do too. All the oil one. Cos Costco sells them stuff.

Exactly, you get like five cans for like what, 10 bucks or something? Yeah, that's pretty good price. But I'll eat them with avocado and some vegetables. Yeah. And I just feel so amazing afterwards. What are my favorite things? I do feel a lot better when I eat those.

Yeah, I notice the anti-inflammatory effects from fish in general, but they're so high in omega-3s. I do too, I do too. Adam just start eating them now. I'll try. I'll try. I'll just feed you Sardines Adam. I will try anything once. You know, see this is what I said.

Listen, I'm a porpoise. Sardine protein chain. You can are. I say, I say Eatsardines, Adam's like, no, the buff dude with long hair who can do a backflip says Eatsardines, Adam's like, I'm impressed. I'm thinking about it now. I'll tell you that.

That's how you got it. Here Adam, you have two bulldogs. Yeah. I know that some other people actually drain the canesardines, the olive oil, the juices from it into their dog food, and it's really good for the dogs. Oh, oh, that's a shoot. So you're doing something for your family as well.

You know what's funny? It won't smell of your kitchen. That is actually, I mean, so fucking think about that. That is not such a selling point to me, because what you don't know that I do is we actually have, so I take fish oil and I have to cut them, I have to cut the gel caps with scissors and I actually dump it in the dog food. Does that change the, and you don't have to do that.

If you just throw a gel cap of a fish oil out of dog, they'll munch on it. Well, ours won't mind while they're boozing. Yeah, so I have to cut it and I have to spoil the fuck out of dog. I drizzle the fish oil on their food. So that is, and it's actually a pain because it always squirts all over me and then I smell like fish, but... Do you have a drink right now that you're talking about fish? Yeah, we're fingers.

Yeah, yeah, we are. That's the nickname you have in high school. It's actually great for their skin and their hair. So, and bulldogs are, they're, for sure. I notice a huge difference with the dogs when I do things like that. What's their coat? Yeah, with their coat and their skin, so Mazi has allergy, so his skin will get kind of red

if he's been outside a lot, so they give bath once a week, and if they don't, they've been outside, they pick up a lot of dander, he'll actually get like these kind of rash looking on his skin, so when I'm kicking up the fish oil, keeping him clean, it makes a huge difference. So, Juji, what's the formula for,

we have a lot of listeners that are trying to build social media presence, you know, trying to build their business, especially in fitness. Have you found things that you could say are kind of part of a formula that seem to work really, really well, or what kind of advice would you give people who are trying to build, you know, their pages?

Oh, there's a lot of advice I could give. Yeah, I mean, I mean, a lot of advice I could give. I understand. And a lot of that you learned on your own, did you actually find any e-books or have you got any great advice or as most of it all come from trial and error? All from trial and error. I don't, I never picked up any sort of e-book

or read anything online. I was like, yeah, that was mostly advice as I read online. He's an even really, really what worked for me. It's not really, it just didn't work. It wasn't really what I needed to do. What works is posting good shit. And here's the thing.

Step one. Yeah, it's the post good shit. And when you post good shit, it's gonna perform well. The problem is posting more of that. So you have to, that's the thing is, I can only post like a few good clips every now and again. So the question I have to ask myself is, and the question you have to ask myself is,

and the question you have to ask yourself as well, if you want to grow your social media, I know what people like, I know what my best stuff is. It's the same thing. How can I post more of that? What do I need to do with my schedule? With my, you know, you have to sit down, you have to schedule time for creativity exercises,

is sit there and come up with better ways to improve what you do. So let's talk about the creativity exercises. That's fascinating, because we've come to kind of a little bit of a, I don't know, like a discovery with ourselves and that a lot of what we do involves getting that creative process going

and that we need to foster that more because we try to think of it like business, but in reality, if we take the time to allow so it's be creative. We've actually kind of came up with a formula and something that we've duplicated. And we've found that it works best. It kind of puts us in the mindset of

is it something you sell? No, no. We're like, you're gonna share all the secrets. It's drugs. Yeah, a lot of drugs. So, let me ask you, so what do you do for creativity? How do you just set time aside to do nothing and just relax or?

That's part of it. There's a lot of things you can do. I mean, I can break it up into three things. One is when you have an idea, always write it down. I put it in the note, keep it in that. I use Google Keep. Most people use Evernote, anything, notepad in your pocket, whatever.

Always write down every fucking idea you get. Two, sometimes you can't, if you need an idea and you don't have one, you do have to schedule time just to sit there and do creativity exercises. And there's cool books out there, Michael McCalk, I don't know what that's a bodybuilder's name, I think. There's this one book called Thinker Toys. It's a yellow book. It has, it's a book full of creativity exercises. Some of that stuff works. There's like creative

think packs with like cards that give you creative exercises. A sit there in brainstorm lists is I think most creativity comes from just lists and just thinking out just yeah. So sometimes I have to sit there and have to brute force it. And the other thing is people. So I feel like a lot of good ideas come from other people. So I'll have an idea, and sometimes I'll just run it by someone, and they'll be able to complete it for me. I'm like, okay, fuck yeah. Now it's perfect.

Whereas before I had a partial idea, I was like, how can I do this? So, those three, looking at creativity like a pie chart and splitting it between those three places, yeah, but I mean, it's creativity is a muscle, the more you use it, the better it gets. You know what, it's so true, but it's so hard for people like us to understand that because we've been in business for so long where you know you don't really take time out of your day to dedicate to just being creative and yet When you do on accident usually you do your best

And you know, that's just something we were talking about you know more recently is allowing ourselves giving ourselves a time and space To just be creative to just allow ourselves to be present. It makes it, it's made a huge difference. Do you feel like now too, I mean now that this is your full gig and talking about the whole pie chart, you know, we were talking about this earlier when we were working out, is have you kind of honed in on what does Juju do well and what does Juju do not so well?

Oh yeah, absolutely. In fact, I did the pie chart. These are all the different sources of income I have. And it's fun because you're like, okay, now that I see this, I think I can make a lot more money on that segment right there. But one of the ones I've been having

and most trouble with is seminars. So last year has been a very failed year for me for seminars because I made the mistake of advertising it like, hey, a Juju Mufu seminar. So I show up and some people would be expecting flexibility. One person would be expecting a deadlift routine workout, one person expected to trick,

one person brought costumes and wanted to do viral videos. Everyone wanted, because I'm not just like, I squat, you know? Right. I'm a world record holder in squats or something, which I'm not making fun of. I'm just saying like, you do a lot of stuff.

I do a lot of different things. So everyone expects something different. I wish I don't wish it was as easy as just one thing, but you got to understand like the person who's like the fucking best in the world at one thing like squatting, people go there to have a similar about squatting. They don't know, they want everyone wants something fucking different.

So you know, it was hard and. Is it something you're trying like, I mean, shit, I would love to help you with that. I would love to invite you in. We got a great place as a buddy of ours and we would totally hype it up for you. If you ever wanted to come in here and hosted at our place, bro, the Mikasa Sukasa, I think that that's something that you would want to do. I love to do it if you could guarantee me to make a profit because I lost a lot of money last year in seminars. So that's so maybe let's talk about that a little bit.

Now you're talking of Mind Pump. Yeah, yeah. I'll tell you what, I'll tell you what, just throwing ideas around. What I see a lot of value in is how to gain flexibility, but not just flexibility, because you have a unique type of flexibility. You have the desired type of flexibility, which is functional and strong flexibility, which athletes could really benefit from, because there's ways you could train to get flexible,

but what you have is you have the ability to be flexible, but also be strong within that range of motion. And all those in ranges. That I see, now obviously it's just my idea, but I can see a shit ton of value in presenting that to trainers or people who are into fitness. There's a difference in just explaining the difference between flexibility.

Well, that feeds into your book, right? I'm sure you kind of cover a lot of that in your book, and maybe that's how we would run a seminar. Maybe we would take a strong chapter out of your book that you think is a good thing to do more hands-on, or a lot of people would benefit from. And maybe since so many people already have your book that you think is a good thing to do more hands-on or a lot of people would benefit from and maybe since so many people already have your book maybe like getting feedback from all the book owners what was the most beneficial part of the book and then building seminars around that

you know maybe maybe something like that I don't know but there's good it's brainstorming so yeah creativity exercise. Yeah, we're doing right now, we're collaborating. We're doing it on air. So a lot of creativity comes from having conversations with people that are productive. Instead of, let's just talk about the fucking, how bad life is and how the government's fucking us and all this other people I've talked about. Oh, man.

Why don't we talk about fucking ideas and how we can make money and benefit people? Yeah, I did. I like that. I like that. And if you don't have those people in your life, get them. Now, would you say that I think that's also very important to surround yourself around other people that are like that.

And I think you and I were talking earlier, we were talking about age and when I evolved beyond video games, another one that I remember was a big thing for me was when I started cutting people out of my life that weren't enhancing it, that weren't improving it, that weren't helping or pushing me to grow, that weren't supportive of that, and eliminating those type of people and continuing to surround myself with more people that were happy to see me succeed, and wanted to help my success and had ideas and we could brainstorm like that.

Do you find, do you remember when that transition, or are you still going through that transition, or do you try and sit around yourself around people like that? Like, no, I've always had a pretty stringent intolerance for people that weren't useful to me. So, that's really the point of the game. It was strong. Yeah, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. My definition of friendship and the, I feel like that friendship is like an exchange.

It's a business, I'm sorry, but two people using each other. Okay, so if you don't have a use for another person, then it's not gonna be a great friendship, right? So that use could be something very, I don't know. It could be emotional. It could be emotional. Yeah, it doesn't have to be like, oh, this person does work on my car

and I help him work out. It's not as black and white, it's not so simple. I mean, a lot of it's emotional support. A lot of it's just shared interest. You're getting something out. But if there's nothing, if there's no exchange going on, and I feel like we're most people, God, we're all over the place. That's okay. This is how we roll freestyle, bro. I mean, I think, you know, what? This is the shit though, the people, I think, don't get a chance. When I meet someone like you, we can see here. I think, you know what, this is the shit though, the people I think don't get a chance at. When I meet someone like you, we can see here. I'm sure you've heard a million questions about that.

We can talk about Acrobat, we can talk about your dead live, we can talk about your hair, we can talk about all the shit that everybody wants to talk about. I'm always fascinated with a mind like yours, because there's so much more going on behind the scenes of how all this stuff develops. And I think these are the type of things that show that, like your idea.

I think it's a great point. What do you believe a friendship? What a relationship should look like. And I think that's a great, I mean, it's a good, so the way you put it, you know, you said, you should be getting something from it. And they should be getting something from the friendship as well.

Some people, it should be mutually beneficial. Thank you. Some people may hear that and be like, oh, that sounds callous or whatever. That's not true. In fact, if you have a quote unquote friendship where it's one sided where all you do is give and you don't get, that's called abuse.

That's an abusive relationship, whether you're dating that person or whether you're just friends with them. The real definition of friendship is it first, it's mutually beneficial. They both benefit from it in some way, whether it's love or intellect or just support or whatever. That's what a true friendship is. And if you're in a relationship where it's abuse, where you're just giving, giving, giving, and you're not feeling anything positive and return, well, it's time to break up with that person. Here's the thing.

I think most people have the problem where they're not just being abused by giving, giving, giving, the problem most people have is they don't ask. You have to be like, look, a lot of people want to feel like they're selfless. Like, you know, I'm just gonna give and I'm never gonna ask for anything. If you never ask for something from someone,

you're not giving them the opportunity to feel important, right? Because if I ask someone for something, then you're basically giving them credit like, oh, he's asking me for something, I'm important. You're depriving them of that opportunity if you'd never ask, right? So when you do and they feel important,

then they feel like they can ask something from you. And so you have to, you can't just give, give, give, you have to ask too. So, but if there's nothing to ask of this person, and see that's where I was getting out, where I have a, I'm stringent about who, if this person, if I don't have anything I need from them, I'm, I'm sorry, it's just, that's it.

And. Do you think, no, do you think you were like that, even as a child, or do you think as a grown man you've evolved to that like now because of all the things you have on your plate that you just, you don't have time for bullshit and not messing or messing with someone that isn't going to help you and you help them.

Do you think that's something that you evolved to or do you think even as a kid, you were like that? I think I evolved to it, but I wasn't able to articulate that that was my mode of operandum until recently. So you have such a positive attitude, even talking with you off the mics and everything, everything to you, you seem to have, you put a positive lens over everything,

which I admire quite a bit. Was that from your childhood? What was it like? How's your family? What were your parents like? Were you raised to be that way? Is it something you witnessed in your parents? Oh, my parents are always very good.

I love my parents so much. They're still together. They're married for 42 years. That's fantastic. So that's a very good model for me for what a good marriage looks like. Yeah. Yeah, it's great. It's playing while you're so grounded. Yeah, my wife says the same thing actually. She says that you had a good marriage looks like. Yeah, yeah, it's blind. It's blind why you're so grounded.

Yeah, my wife says the same thing actually. She says that you had a good model and you don't realize that you have all these good habits in terms of relationship with her and with my family and stuff. That's really positive because I was unconsciously influenced by that, so I'm thankful for that. Some people didn't have that,

but see now that she's with me, she can see that, and so she's learning. So like I said, if you don't have positive people in your life, just get them. And a lot of people act like, oh, I can't get them. Just fucking get them. I just don't, just get them. I'm finding them online. I mean, just look.

There's people everywhere that are fucking awesome. Were your parents entrepreneurs? What kind of work do they do? No, actually, my mom is just a kindergarten teacher all these years. My dad just worked a normal job and retired. And so the entrepreneurship was never part of the blood. It was never in the family culture.

So when now that my dad is seeing what I'm doing and he's seeing the success, he's so fucking excited, dude. That's gotta be so awesome. He comes up with, yeah, like I said, he's getting ideas from people. He's gotta be so awesome. He comes up with, yeah, like I said, he's getting ideas from people. He loves coming up with ideas for me. It's great. He comes up with video ideas for me sometimes

and I'll run things by him and it's fantastic. He's loving this right now for me. We're either your parents very athletic and. My dad is. Really? Yeah, very. He's been an ultra runner since like age 26. Oh, so the endurance route.

Yeah, in fact, I think in the endurance, I have a gene for it. I think maybe maybe it's passed on through hammers, but because I can remember, like one of the first experiences of me exercising when I was younger is I started running. And I was able to run 10 miles of that stopping. Like within a week or two of starting, and that's really abnormal. Don't you think? It, you know, it's? You know, it's funny. So there's obviously your genes can dictate how good you can be or what kind of potential

you have for particular things. But there are sometimes people have genes to where no matter what athletic pursuit they go after, they do well. Because obviously you might have the endurance gene But you've obviously had the strength and muscle gene, you know too Because you're very very strong, you know along with it So that's really cool. This is something you're gonna continue. I'm assuming when you have children the whole fitness lifestyle

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's awesome Yeah, you said something interesting earlier about fitness and how people use the term play. Like go inside, go play, you know. We forget that as adults. It's so weird. Like little kids, you don't got to tell them to work out half the time because, or ever, because they just go and play.

They're just moving. It's funny because I started doing that more often now. I leave myself certain days that are not superstructured. I kind of have a general idea of what I want to do. I prime my body days that are not superstructure. I kind of have a general idea of what I want to do. I prime my body like I'm like I normally do and then I go in and I kind of have fun and play. Those have become my favorite my absolute favorite workouts. There's a nice way to encapsulate that menta out that mindset and it's I think it's a slogan from a medicine ball company. It's

a hard play. Yes. Fun work. Or something like that. I think it's a play hard, hard play harder or something. No, I think it's play hard, work fun or something like that. I know you're talking about it. I don't know. But I like that. It's a healthy little encapsulation of that. It's a nice mental device. Do you and your wife work out together? Yeah, sometimes. Awesome. Yeah.

Is she trained similar to you with strength training and the flexibility type training? No, she's not flexible at all. In fact, that's a problem. I'm working on it with her. She just graduated from a very difficult master's program. She's in between that and finding a job right now. So we're spending more time together. Cause I mean, she was having a hard time fitting it in.

When she's, shit, we weren't even in same town for most of the year this past year. So now that we're together, I'm able, the other thing goes just a week ago, I was sitting there for an hour, just taking your inventing flexibility exercises to get her to squat deeper, you know, pushing her into it, supporting her, catching her, because she's afraid to squat without falling and just being like a spotter for and just

playing around with it, just like I said, playing and she got, she was working up a hard-ass what? How long you guys been together? Four years. Okay, so you knew it super newlyweds. Oh, Mary for two years. Is that super? Yeah, I so? Yeah, I think both, but four, two. Yeah, I guess it could be new. When did you guys meet? We met in a nutrition store. So around 2010, I started going to this nutrition store and buying flax seed in bulk because they had a really good price and she was in there. And I remember her being in there and I wasn't attracted to her because I thought she was like a 15 year old girl.

Oh, so you were exploring young? Yeah, she looked really young. I'm not particularly attracted to younger women. I don't know what that is. I'm sorry, I don't know what to do. a 15 year old girl. Oh, she looks really young. Yeah, she looked really young. I'm not particularly attracted to younger women. I don't know what that is. Sorry, I don't know what to do. Especially 15 year old. Yeah, I'm like 24 or 15, like, I don't know, jailbait.

So I go back in there like a year later and she looks more like a woman. I'm like, okay, cool. But I was pretty shy actually. And she was hitting on me like crazy, but she was throwing all these mixed signals. She was an actor like herself and I liked the personality type she was trying to portray.

Like this mask, you know, she was trying to play this game. I'm not into that. She's really doing that. So, it's actually, this is one of the favorite stories is I was driving home from work right now, one night in 2012, November. And it was raining like fucking crazy, and I was in the farthest left lane,

and I was thinking, man, I need to flex you, I'm out, I can wait till Friday, or I can get it to nine. Okay, fuck it, I'm just gonna get it nine. Don't be lazy. So I crossed like four lanes of traffic to take a sharp ride. I got all the way across this lane to get it like,

you know, it was sort of like one of those, you know, snap decisions, just like, don't be lazy. And I walked in and it was her last night of work. Oh my God, that's weird. And she, yeah, and she saw me and she was like the wild Pokemon appeared. She's like, oh my God, this is like, because I only went in there ever two or three months. She knew I was regular. She knew my schedule.

Yes. After he poops this much with his flax seed, you know, so she knew that's like, she knew, I was like, oh, that was the last time I wanna see this guy. So she fuckin' flew out there and like, gave me her number and that's when I was like, I was oblivious, this girl's, you know, I don't catch their signals, I don't know what it is. And I was like, oh, you like me, you like me. You like me, you like me.

Yeah, that's why you're acting weird. That's why you're acting weird. So we, uh, Did you ask her out? Then you just got her phone number call her up. Yeah, well, what happened after that? So she came out to you. She gave me her phone number and, you know,

it's the strangest thing. I didn't have a cell phone at the time or social media. So I gave her a fucking YouTube video link. What? What? And my email address. Dude, that's romantic. Yeah.

In return. So it was like my way of saying, Hey, yeah, I'm not rejecting you, but she thought it was rejection. Like, the fuck does that get me to come and address in a YouTube video? Yeah, yeah. Business, yeah.

Yeah, business. Yeah, she gave me her number, yeah. Okay, so. Chippy on my website. Here's my website. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Here's my website, yeah, check me out, okay. So, so a couple days later, I was waiting to call her

because I thought that's what you're supposed to do is like, you gotta put a few days in between so you don't seem too interested. Yeah because I thought that's what you're supposed to do is like you got to put a few days in between so you don't seem too interested. Yeah I think that's bullshit I'm personally. They'll seem too desperate but she fucking emails me like right back that night. Oh wow. Yeah and I'm like okay you know I email her back and then I ended up just calling her like and I was like hey let's just go to date this weekend we'll just walk around I just need to see if I can talk to you for a long period of time, the tolerate. They actually said that to her?

No, I didn't say that. It was my, because I'm, you know, for a relationship for me, I have to be able to have a conversation. That's a more important thing for me. Of course. And so we went on this date and we walked around this little loop for fucking almost nine hours. Whoa.

And we just talked and talked and talked and talked and talked. Did you really, for that long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, that's how you know, man. I wasn't, I wasn't't I didn't get hungry or anything I was all fucking like jack that bomb that's cool the energy. Yeah the energy and the the love hormone thing Just just nervousness shit, you know, so oh so now that's how you know dude I was just so looking back now and thinking about that story I mean was that was it kind of like a no brain?

This is it like did you feel that right away or did it take time? Yeah. No, I felt it pretty quick. The second date was for sure. Really? Second date. Yeah. What did you guys could do on the second day? Did you guys go somewhere? Did you just walk more loops? No, we went to a different place and just walked even further. So not a movie guy. No, I didn't. I mean, no, she's the same way. She's a, I mean, this shit, I mean, she's the type of girl where I was nervous. We were gonna go eat for the first time somewhere and she wanted to go to a Trader Joe's and buy Deli meat like lettuce and like hot sauce

or something and make a meal in a car. That's great. I was like, yeah, I know, I was like, that's just kind of shit I do. Yeah, like buy a bunch of groceries and stuff. Do you like Sergans? Yeah, exactly. Do you like God? Exactly, this is like shit. ago, you're a series of other. Do you like serene? Yeah, exactly. Do you like,

exactly. This is like, shit, what the fuck, this girl's weird. I love her. Yeah, so wait. Okay, so I mean, you're busy as hell right now. I know she helps out around the house at home for you right now and some of that.

And she's finishing up school right now, right? She's finished up school. No, she's done. Oh, she's done. She's looking for a job. Okay, so she's now, okay. What, when you guys have a moment or time where you guys can shut down, what's kind. Oh, she's done. She's looking for a job. Okay, so she's now okay. What when you guys have a moment or time Where you guys can shut down what's kind of like your thing? What do you guys go somewhere and do something or you guys have a favorite thing

You guys like to do together? You know, she just likes to watch Netflix shit Hey, there's another all of that man. That's it. That's definitely a night for micro and I for sure She understands my pattern though. I don't like to do that in the morning when I wake up I work and I work. And I work on stuff and I exercise and I'm building stuff. I'm doing stuff and then around six o'clock at night, look I've pretty much maxed out my- For the day. For the day and it's a good time to just kind of get my sardines together on a plate with some with whatever vegetables and other stuff and then rise or whatever and just sit down and just watch fucking adventure time or something.

Oh my God, I love that. I love bacon pancakes. One of my favorite, yeah. And my favorite. Super random. What do you guys watch on Netflix? Oh, she likes all the dramas. Yeah, she have a favorite series right now.

I mean, you guys watch Westworld yet. Have you seen what have you seen? By the way, I started Westworld. It is fucking awesome. I'll also, you guys are right. But I have it for free though, so anyway. I knew you would like that one. Of course you do.

Yeah, what's your latest series that you guys watch? You gaming thrones guy, what have you watched? And we haven't started game of thrones because it's like a commitment. We know that's like, we get sucked down by the moment. Yeah, yeah, we know about that one.

We have started that one, yeah. Oh, shit. We're kind of in between series right now, I guess. So, just most of the things a lot of other people watch, but I'm trying to think, I think the one I really liked was Helen Wheels, I thought that was fucking cool. I haven't watched that yet. I don't know. I thought that was good for some reason.

I like Better Call Saul. That shit's awesome. I heard that one's great. That's another one I like. That's such a fun one. He's such an underdog and it's just so good. We watch Breaking Bad and it's sort of like the prequel to that.

So I feel like the directors of Breaking Bad got their shit together near the end of that series and now they got experience they can make it. They better cost all's better. So when people from your neighborhood, where you grew up and family, whatever, when they see your videos on Instagram or social media, have you doing the crazy shit?

Would they say to themselves like, oh yeah, that's definitely something he would do? Or are they like, whoa, I don't know, he was crazy like that. Cause when I meet you, you're so calm, you're positive, you're very like, I would never know that you like to take videos yourself, you know, doing back flips over fire and shit like that, you know what I'm saying?

Were you always like that? Were you just this kind of rembunctious personality or was it just nobody knew? I was no one knew, no one ever really knew. I'm introverted, I'm an introvert, but... So this is totally coming out of your shell, man. This is so... It's a skill you build it, like...

I'm good in my own space and that's where I come up with ideas and where I do my best work, but I mean, in this world, come on, you have to be able to get out there and interact with people and I love it, and I'm good at it now. You know? You really classify yourself as an introvert? I am. I know I am. Okay, so knowing that and getting yourself in the limelight, what has been the most challenging TV? Like even like, so then I would think something like this,

like the first time you got on a podcast where you nervous as fuck and like, do you like talking like that? How do you feel? Like what goes through you? No, I'm not nervous right now at all. Well, you've been doing it a lot now, but I'm not when you first fucking started. Because if you're an introvert and then I'll send you all over TV

and now you're doing podcast and you have shaken hands with people and talking to people at expose and stuff, I mean, was that a transition of, did you feel this like, wow, you were nervous as fuck or you like, bring it, I'm ready for it? And you know, that's a great question. Let me think. I would say that it wasn't like super nervous because it was more excitement. I was more excited about it because the part of me that people wanted was the real me.

Oh yeah, yeah. I mean, Juji Mufu was like, what, it's not a persona, it's just a name for the way I really wanna be and what I really am on the inside. I'm a calm guy, I'm not like fucking psychopath or anything. But I mean, they wanted the part of me I'm not like fucking psychopath or anything. But I mean, they wanted the part of me that I wanted people to know. So when people know me as jujim,

when people come up to me, hey man, I know you online, I love your stuff. Oh, I automatically feel a lot more comfortable. It's like, okay, they know who I am, they already accept me because I'm putting the real me out there. Wow. Whereas if they know me as John Call and they don't know my real name and they don't know what I do, I'm not the type of person just to start telling people, oh yeah, I'm

a guy that does splits, I don't tell people what I do by default. I let them discover it and I don't know if that's a downfall or whether that's cool. Well, let me ask you this then, it is doing what you do now and having people see that side of you. Is there a therapeutic side to it where you're like, Oh, that's the real me. I feel like I can really just be myself. I have to. Yeah.

Yeah, absolutely. I mean, and more and more now that it's my job and it's, yeah, absolutely. It's, well, it's, it's being, I don't know if it's like therapeutic so much, that's just the way it's supposed to be. Well, I also want... You think that's right? Yeah, I think it's... Are you kidding me?

You're in a good way to say it, though. Well, so I was kind of searching because the fact that you say that Justin is very introverted in that way, where he doesn't want to be the lion light or in the front of everybody, but... And yet he is. Yeah, well, and what he talked about, I remember when we first started doing this, and what I've always loved about him, I've known him for over 10 years now is,

you know, he's the type of guy that like, you know, even though I'm an introvert and this doesn't seem like I want the challenge, I like the challenge, and he uses it as a way to challenge himself and to excel at being put out there. That's a good point. Yeah, for me too, like I could totally identify what you're talking about though,

because I would joke around with my friends all the time, That's a good point. Yeah, for me too, like I could totally identify what you're talking about though because I would joke around with my friends all the time and I would just be myself and You know be really comfortable in that and it really takes me a while to get into a group of people and then to be myself So yeah, but if they already know who you are where you're from right and what you do if you had a social media presence like mine that it's a pretty good back catalog and people can, you know, then you automatically feel more comfortable, right? Justin? Yeah, if people kind of come up to me

and they know me from the show, yeah, I'm stoked. I'm stoked because yeah, then they have a good sense of like, oh, you know, he's lighthearted or whatever it is, like I'm not so serious about, you know, what I'm doing for my career, like I am serious about it and I wanna come off is like I know what I'm not so serious about, you know, what I'm doing for my career. Like I am serious about it, and I wanna come off

as like I know what I'm talking about, but like I wanna have fun doing it, you know, and joking around and being silly, and you don't ask that, this is really fun for me. Dude, I had this 50 something year old lady come up to me at the grocery store, and she's like, mine pumps, oh, sour, and right away, I know I could drop F-bombs, you know what I mean?

Yeah, I would never do that in the real world where I meet someone and then you're like, oh, hey, you know, so right Oh, mine, Pub, like fuck yeah, you better believe it bitch. Yeah, you know, it was like we were instantly Yeah, it was it was pretty cool, but you don't wear that on well you if you're wearing a mine pump Sure, you know it helps, you know, but I mean we don't walk around and, well, if you're wearing a mind pump shirt, you know, it helps, you know. But I mean, we don't walk around and wear that billboard on us all the time. So it's so fucking cool when people come up to you and know who you are and where you're from. You immediately feel connected in a way that's so, it's just God is one. Especially since you're portraying you.

Yeah. It's like it would suck if you were like if you played like a character like because I could imagine being like a high-ircle. Yeah. Yeah. Like you're a type cat, like you're a type cat. Like you're a villain in like four different movies. Now everybody thinks you're an asshole and then when they walk by you're they're gonna say something, you know. That actually happens. Oh, absolutely. All the time. Yeah. Now you hear that all the time. You know what I'm curious about then too is how is how is it for you like where you're home gym where you normally work out?

Do you get a lot of your workouts interrupted? Like how do you handle that? I don't, you know, I like it when they get interrupted. A lot of people are like, no, you can't shut the fuck up. Don't talk to me when I work out. No, that's flattering. It's like, hey, yeah, cool. Now, I immediately have a friend in the room with me now.

You know what I mean? So it brings the presence to be, brings presence to the room even better. So I like it. Yeah. I mean, I don't want people just talking their heads off when they're working out, but people understand social cues to a certain extent.

It's like, I'm working out, you know, okay, cool. You know, we're, we recognize each other. We're friends now. Yeah, it's good. Let's go to work on. We can talk in between sets. Yeah, you know, I was, some people don't get the social cues.

That's why I was kind of curious because sometimes, because Adam puts them out. Yeah. You know, we, you know, there's times where like some people, they, they will, they'll just want to keep hanging around and coming in and tell you, be like, Hey, I'm going to go and do this. Like it was nice meeting you, but if we would be really,

some people will just keep walking down the street with us. You're just like, where are we going? I'm like, hey, I'm gonna go and do this. Like it was nice meeting you, but if we would be really, some people would just keep walking down the street with us. And you'd just say, where are we going? I'm like, oh, okay. I guess we're all going together. We got a new friend here. You're just a really nice guy. You just got back from the, which is what the LA Fit Expo?

Yeah, how was it over there? Oh, it's great. It's bigger every year. That one's one of the, is that one one of the bigger? Yeah, that one in a limpier are the two biggest, I believe. I would say that's, you know, I don't know the numbers, but from what people describe to me, it's probably the third biggest expo for fitness

in the United States. The first one is either the Arnold or the Olympic. Oh, Arnold. So it goes one, two, and then that one. That's probably, yeah, yeah. The LA FedExPose fucking huge. What do you do on your booth, you had a booth there? Yes.

What do you do at your booth? Well, I have my own product line, but for the most part, it's just I'm a carnival ride. Carnival ride. Yeah, I'm a carnival ride. You must be exhausted after that. Come sign up for most. Oh my God, dude.

It tends to be one of the most exhausting things. Oh, but it's so worth it. It's just like, it's so epic. Yeah, I bet. This is like the fucking best thing in the world. I'm gonna own this. I'm gonna sling people around. I'm gonna press them overhead in the splits. I'm gonna own this. So I'm gonna sling people around, and press them overhead in the splits.

I'm gonna do backflips of people, do handstands of people, I'm gonna yell and scream and give hugs. And just fucking go bananas, and that's what I do. Did you, I love your, I love your, like, you make people, like, you have to be able to filter this, right? Because everybody's gonna come up and want you to do a backflip. Or it's crazy all the time, right?

So you have like kind of a standard of how, you know, all that goes down, right? Okay, so it's my line for at my booth is literally all day long from like 10 a.m. to past 6 p.m. when they close the doors and people are still not leaving. So it's what, how many hours? It's more than eight hours of just, I'll sneak away for an hour there

to put fuel in my body and come back You know, but in order to preserve my energy I mean look when was the last time you like worked out like that for like nine hours Yeah, okay, so you know or preserve my energy Justin when people ask me to do like something hard Like a split or a backflip or something and because it's on hard ground in this concrete room And I might not do one for like 45 minutes just giving hugs to normal people and someone will do something fucking crazy. So it's really awkward for the body. I'm gonna filter it by be like, okay, if you can do it, I'll do it with you, right? Because you've earned it if you've gotten it. So I want a back flip. Can you back flip?

All right, you can't do it. Now come back next year. Challenge accepted. Challenge accepted. Yeah, come on. There you go. Did you see a lot of back flips where a lot of people able to do them? Actually, yeah, I must have done about, I don't know, 15 or 20 of them per day. Wow. Wow, that's not bad at all. It was like 15 or 20 different people per day. Now, you were there, were you there during that whole

fiasco that happened there with the whole, who was it? Rich Piana and Mac Truck. Everyone was asking me if I heard about it. His booth is right next to mine. I didn't see it. I didn't see it. I was, well, like, dude, I'm paying attention to my fans.

I don't know what the fuck's going on there. It wasn't loud enough for me. I could tell you, it probably wasn't louder than me screaming in people's faces. But I didn't see it, but I heard about it. I don't know what it was. Ramma. Yeah, drama, drama.

It's so crazy how you guys can be that close and what a drastic difference of like the messages that you're sending to the fitness media. Right next to each other, it's like so. The look at positivity does, it attracts people. Yeah, right, that's awesome. Did you, were you always this positive? Did you get any fights when you were a kid?

No, I'd never been in a fight. See, I never been in a fight. I knew it. Wow. First of all, I'll tell you what. It's impressive. First of all, you're the last person that someone want to fuck with,

but not because of how you look, definitely look like a muscular guy, but sometimes that actually draws attention. Yeah, it does. It's because you're so fucking cool, like you're just a nice guy. I don't know why anybody, if somebody ever tried to fight you, they would be the biggest. Yeah, okay, somewhere in the world game. So, because there's people out there that hate night good people too, just because you're a good person.

There's got to be somebody who has picked fights with you. How have you diffused that? How's that at? Well, can you remember a time where someone has? No ever. Wow. Well, I mean when I was like, I want to fight you now. Okay, I'm never, you don't, you liar.

You want to? No, not really. Okay, but I can tell you like before, maybe when I was like between ages 11 and 13, I was picked on a little bit, but it wasn't like any to the point where I was gonna get beat up or something, you know. Wow, that's actually very impressive. So have you gotten any negative feedback, trolls, whatever, like seeing nasty stuff to you online, they've affected you? Oh, that affected me?

Yeah. You know, it's sort of like a repetition and an exercise. The more you can take, the better you get at it. Yeah, what was the first thing that was said to you? Cause we did an episode one time, I've someone hurt my feelings, bro. And we tied, I openly shared, I was just like, I hurt my feelings.

We all heard that one. Yeah, we did a whole episode around it. Because it was, yeah, it was like the first, like, you know what, I hurt my feelings because together we're a group, right? And most people that like talk shit to us, they talk shit like to mind pump. But like, they like literally singled me out.

Like, we like Justin, we like him. This man, it was just like, oh. Yeah, and so, yeah, no, totally hurt my feelings. I expressed that. Now it doesn't bother me whatsoever. We've gotten so much gotten in. We gave him a couple of back reps. Doesn't matter anymore, but that was the first thing

and it was about a year ago or a year and a half ago it was. Did you have them, was there something that was ever said to you that was like, man, that was the first thing and it was about a year ago or a year and a half ago. It was, did you have them? Did there was there's something that was ever said to you that was like, man, that was me. Oh, that was so cool. Yeah, like, well, here's a thing. I mean, with my type with who I am and the type of stuff I put online, I usually beat people to the punch and making fun of me. I haven't said to you about myself. I'm already being a fucking clown.

It's kind of hard to make fun of someone who's, God, I'm a fucking joke. Well, you do humanize yourself very well. I'm human, I know I am. And I know myself in my weakest moments. And so if someone wants to pick on me, I already know it's true for the most part. So it's sort of like, yeah, I already know that.

And I just, I don't need to acknowledge it. I don't need to respond to them. It's just like, yeah, okay. But here's the thing, Adam, this guy that, you know, hurt your feelings, what's more important, his opinion of you or mine, because I fucking love you. Yeah. No, you're right. You're right. And I think that's something, see, I had to learn that.

I think I had a point though. He said some stuff. I'm gonna pop some over here and kick it in. He took deep, man. We're trying to build him back up, man. Yeah, right? Oh, he's and kick it in. He dug deep, man. We're trying to build him back up, man. Yeah, right? Oh, he's fine. Fuck you, guys. He's not that. He was fine two seconds later.

No, I was just curious because you know, you know, I'm man-string. I think that I'm somebody that doesn't let that stuff in. It even surprised me. It surprised me that I allowed someone to like actually hurt my feelings over that and it was like, man, man. Usually when that happens, they still gave us five stars. It did. You know what it is?

This is what I found with myself. I don't know if you guys find this true also, but usually when something hurts my feelings, if someone says something, it's because I believe some of it. Yeah, of course. It's attacking an insecurity. Yeah, yeah.

Very aware of that. I'm very aware of that. That doesn't mean it doesn't fucking hurt still. You're gonna, of course it doesn't. It doesn't mean it hurts you. It does not not hurt your feelings. It hurts your feelings the same. That I think that when you get to our level

of where you're talking to this many people and you're getting through this many, I mean, I can't imagine. I mean, jujitsu's got fucking, what do you have? Almost a million now people that are tuning into you on Instagram. You gotta be getting flooded with comments to the point

where it's almost hard to read all of them. And then if you do go through some of them, and there's people that are attacking or jabbing, like, you know, that takes a while, I think, to practice. It's almost an exercise of like, you know, you read a lot of that, a lot of that. You're like, okay, I'm not gonna allow that to affect how I feel.

You're siphoning through it all. But you had to go through it, it's like that. I'll tell you what, man, I really like you doing podcasts, and I'll tell you why. First off, because you said, all my clown, I'm a clown, and you make that comment, but you're not. The message that you're promoting through your social media, it's funny, yes, it's hilarious.

It also demonstrates physical prowess, right? You have to be able to do very entertaining. It's very entertaining, but it's also, you're doing some cool shit, but it's a very positive message that you're sending to fitness. You're making light of it, yes, but it's also very positive.

But then you get on a podcast and people hear your philosophy, they hear your attitude towards things, and then it makes a lot of sense. You're an excite you, it's almost like recess. You know, it's like, is that old feeling used to have? You're like, yeah, now we get to like hang out, move,

lift some stuff, do some cool shit. Hey, can you do this? What if we try this? Right, exactly. Maybe if we move our leg in this way, it'll work, you know, you just fucking, yeah, it's have fun with it. Yeah, we just did that earlier with you. Jumping pistol squat thing in the ball, but I don't know.

That was impressive, actually. I'm surprised all of you guys do that. You're really, you're an intellect that's disguised as a clown. Yeah was impressive actually. I'm surprised all you guys do that. You're really, you're an intellect that's disguised as a clown. Yeah. That's how I feel. I feel you deep down you're an intellect that has, has a method behind his madness and a lot of the things that you do may come off as a clown

or whatever, but you know, by no means is it effective? This is also why I love to ask people like you, the deeper type questions. You know what's entertaining because it's not like, because I think it's silly to me when people see that and they just go, oh, I'm just gonna do a bunch of silly shit and do videos of it. And hopefully I'll have a million followers. Like there's more to it than just that. There's definitely a side to you that.

I would think that you probably have a lot of kids that probably do people bring their kids to you? Yeah, actually, yeah. I would think so because I could, I mean, watching your videos. I love watching your videos. Exactly. Yeah, 100%. Do you like working with children?

I know you were in the martial arts for a long time. I don't know. I wouldn't say I'm great at it, but yeah, yeah, I used to teach kids in martial arts. That's what I figured. I'm not great at it, but I'm not bad at it at all. I'm good with kids. Yeah.

Awesome. I think if there's anything that the fitness industry could do a better job of it's Appealing to kids. Especially nowadays where the set you know kids are so sedentary. Right. They don't even move So but yeah, your videos might I watch show my kids and they think it's the funniest shit especially the horse mask Yeah, a lot of the try stuff You get up and just move around and have fun and jump on furniture and like build a tree build a fort out of pillowcases and You know couch cushions. I did that yesterday like you know yeah oh that's fun yeah when it's raining's perfect super fun yeah super fun me and my girlfriend did it in that section. I know you've only been oh my god I know you've only had like a

overall couple few weeks of being full-time you know entrepreneur guy right here right but you But looking ahead of what you know ahead, and what makes me think of this right now, I'm right in the middle of reading this book, scaling up right now. And at different points, a lot of companies and businesses, they start off at one to two to three employees and they grow and they hit to four to six. And these are all like these moments

in your entrepreneurship where a lot of times people get stuck and they get stuck because they can't evolve or break through that. Knowing what's ahead of you and your goals and what you're trying to do and knowing your strengths and kind of your weaknesses, what are you most excited about to do and what are you the most scared maybe about or maybe you feel like this will be the most challenging for you ever thought that far. Okay, the most exciting thing for me is the book I wrote, Legendary Flexibility. It did as well as I wanted it to do. And I had put, I calculated,

$1,500 worth of work into it. So it was, and it's a lifetime of training to cultivate the knowledge to be able to put into that book and to get to develop it and write it and it was an exercise for myself to reorganize what I knew what flexibility was to me in my brain. So writing that book and finishing it was one of the most rewarding things I've ever done. And so I'm excited about writing more books. Very cool.

Nice. Excellent. And continuing to create products that people actually like, not just like make money off of it, cool shit, and create value more through what I'm doing with the entertainment and more education and stuff like that. Just what most people want to do, just more of it, the end of industry, just add value to it.

And I feel like I have things, I have plenty that I want to do, just more of it, the end of the industry, just add value to it. And I feel like I have things, I have plenty of that I want to share with people. So I just want to be able to organize it better so that people can actually absorb it, I guess. Okay, so what part of the business are you most scared of or are you that you feel will be the most challenging for you? Was that a decent answer for the other question? Yes, that was good.

I answered that part, but I didn't want you to skip it. I'm just excited about continuing to do it. I mean, the most question. Yes, that was good. You answered that part, but I didn't want you to skip it. I'm just excited about continuing to do it. I mean, the most scared about is, it doesn't have to be necessarily scared. Maybe you recognize that this is not my strength and I'm not excited. It's daunting. Yeah.

I would say, I mean, as small as it is and as weird as of a technical quirk it is, I have trouble filming myself. I mean, I know it's strange, but that's reality is, I don't have someone to walk around and film me and do I want that and I don't know, but in editing the footage, that's a fuckload of work, dude. No one knows that I edit all my shit.

I know, so I got all this fucking footage from the Fidex bow and I haven't edited it yet. And so it's gonna be like a week later before I get the chance because I'm busy. And it's gonna come out, you know, that shit stresses me out, man. It's like, I want this to be timely. I don't want it just to be like, or here's a FedExpo like three weeks ago, you know.

And so being able to actually catch the footage and and keep up with it and to capture capture those capture those moments is hard for me because it's just stressful to have someone. Where am I putting this? A tripod? You know what? I don't know. It's weird. It's such a very technical, cold detail, but it's reality.

You, something that you're really starting to realize is that you are the creative talent. That should be some, that should be that. That should be somebody's job. And you do what you do best, which is create, continue to create content, continue to write. And you get to create jobs for people too.

Yeah, absolutely. And when we sign content, continue to write. And you get to create jobs for people too. Yeah, absolutely. And when we sign off, maybe Doug can give you some advice because he has some contacts with people that do that kind of stuff. But it would just free you up to just do what you love and what you do bad. It's ready, say, go at that point. That's what I want to do.

And I've been able to do that with other things. I've learned to automate, delegate, just like you were saying, but that one in particular has been a bitch for me, dude. Well, also I have it right. I like things to be a certain way. The edict, I have my own taste, it's very subjective. So, to delegate that, I don't know.

It's tough, so. Hell yeah, it's a challenge. Is that something I'm scared of? Am I gonna be able to do that or not? Right, it's part of that too, is finding the right guy or girl, right? That does that, that's very tough. Have you actually reached out using your social media channels and just kind

of put it out there that you know anybody that's talented to kind of what they would need to be local right right yeah that's what you get that's it out there yeah that's not hurt all as well right necessarily you can do I think you can do the editing and stuff well yeah that's not the real laborious part of having stop film yeah it's be that you know those great angles. And yeah, no, I think that it's gotta be somebody. Yeah, we've been surprised at some people that would respond to something like that. If they heard you on a podcast or they heard you say

in a video or something like that, there's usually like some people that are pretty qualified that will respond. So yeah, and I just think, you know, going back to what I was saying, like, you know, you're gonna find yourself at certain points of scaling your business that ultimately you'll max out what you could do by yourself. At that point, you'll have to ask, am I going to be happy and content with the living that I'm making because I'm making good money and I love what I do.

Or do I have this even grander vision of growing it to something even bigger. I mean, we're going through one of these gross spurts right now with our business is that, we now are having to, we reinvest it in the location, we have everything we need to do for that, and then to continue to produce all this content and a fast array. Now we actually have to start looking at acquiring other talent because we need help,

just bottom line. We've got so much on our plate now that if we really think we're gonna scale this to another level, we have to find other talented people to help with like the things you're talking about. Like literally Doug needs that for us, you know, because he's done it this far, but now his job is so overwhelming with all the other back-end shit that he's constantly in and having to produce all this stuff that it's going, it's taking away from what he's

having to do here. We would much rather find someone talented that can hold a camera and he can direct them and produce the stuff. It's like, you shoot it, you do all this. He's got the eye, he's got the talent now, he's been doing so long, but it's just a task that we're looking to task out ourselves too. Yeah, yeah.

So how'd you like the natural brew coffee, by the way? Oh, it's great, actually. Yeah, you guys are bitching about how it wasn't cold yet, but I like actually like hot coffee, so the room temperature version was good. But the night before, the night before, it was better for me, the night great. Actually, yeah, you guys are bitching about how it wasn't cold yet, but I like actually like hot coffee so the room temperature version was good. With a match for a better for me, a nice mouth feel that I'm a camera in there. Well, I don't think we have the juji blend in there, right? We just have the regular one. Yes, blend is impossible.

Yeah, it gets sold out in like two seconds. I don't have any myself. What's up, man? Do you really don't even have your own? My dad would be so popular. My dad was mad at took him so long to get one from the first batch we made, of what, back in the summertime, man. Dude, him so long to get one from the first batch. We made of what back in the summertime Dude, it's impossible to get yours every time I get on there. I'm like, God damn it. When is it gonna be open?

I think that they said like what they say February or March when the next one again So what we're gonna do is when you get them just send them to us straight He's got first tips I haven't done the pee, I haven't done the pee berry yet. Have you tried the pee berry? I have it. In fact, I was surprised that was sitting on the table right here. It's like, I haven't actually seen that person. I didn't even know that they had that.

I didn't even try to get it. We just got it. So they just, I just opened our box. What do they do? Is it a different coffee or is it just flavor? The pee berry is like a certain type of bean. It's like a, it's shaped differently. So they pick out all that shape.

And I think it's like it tastes more light. Oh shit. Interesting. One of those is going to hold me today. Yeah, try it out. I'm gonna definitely do that. It's a very labor intensive accumulation process for the P-Berrys from the coffee beans.

Is it really? Yeah, well, it's like picking out, needle, not needles from a haystack, but like, you know, one out of every 10 beans is a P-Berry or something, maybe. I don't know what it's less, so you have to pick them all out. So I'm assuming that if it's lighter, it's probably got more caffeine. It's probably stronger.

Thanks, though. I don't know. We'll find out tomorrow. You know what? In the name of chimera, and the fact that we have Juju here, I mean, the name of chimera. I've been holding on to this small bag of coffee. It's about a $400 bag of coffee that I I'm gonna have to brew tomorrow for all of us it's actually um you can only get it over in um where does she just come back from was it

Madagascar no no no no where no not Indonesia it's it's already ballie ballie is that always the end so you know me I'm geographically retarded does it in Indonesia is like no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, and the so the mongoose eats what I like this part is that they picked sir connoisseur the mongoose goes and and picks like so it knows like what the perfect uh... being or barriers i believe yeah coffee being or yeah and they and they eat it and then they pooped out but that the the the natural selection that the mongoose picks is like the primo of primo but it's not just that though because it goes through the poop it actually does some kind of like mild i don't know some fermentation of some sort and it goes through intact It's not like they digest it so it's an intact berry

They wash them and then you make coffee with them and I personally think that they just totally made this up an hour Yeah, are you trolling me? No I'll show you the little bag that I have, and it literally cost her like four or $500, like 50 bucks a cup for us to drink to. And I've been waiting for an occasion to drink like gold dust. All right, so let's fuck up the brewing process.

Yeah, would that be the worst? Don't put it in one of those, like, I don't know. Just do it right. Yeah, can you bring us on tomorrow? Is it just for you to do? No, no, tomorrow morning, what I'll do him and I, but when we get up, I'll brew a big pot. Yeah, I want some of this time in coffee.

Yeah, we'll be talking. I will. And then I will pour some for you guys. I will bring it over in the morning time. We'll have it together. While you're doing that. Boop coffee. While you're doing that, I'm gonna feed just in

a bunch of coffee beans. Okay. And then he's gonna poop them out and then we'll compare. We'll compare, man. We'll see which we might wash him this time Floaters. Yeah. Hey listen if you like mine pump leave us a five star rating review on iTunes And if we like to review and we pick it you'll get a free mine pump t-shirt also check out all of our programs All of our maps programs including our super bundle which is about a year's worth of exercise programming at mindpumpmedia.com.

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