Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 439: How to Choose a Gym, Improving Behind Neck Shoulder Press & Strongman Training

Episode Date: January 18, 2017

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Is that what it's like? I don't know. Oh man. What about the... You guys ever watched this? I watched some terrible movies this last week. I really like this. I really like this.

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You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I should have learned something. Yeah, like they were like, like one of my favorite ones, it's like, this PBS still exists, is that still a thing? But of course it is. It is.

Yeah, there was, here's my favorite one right here. Let's see if you guys remember this one. Please, please show us. Okay. You sure gotta climb a lot of steps to get this capital building What is it? It's the bill. Yeah capital Hill Fucking brilliant, I'm just a bit look at me. Yeah, let me explain something to you right now

I have two kids right they're watching fucking when they watch cartoon network Now it's bullshit when we were kids. I was learning I was learning about bills Capital Hill. I was learning about conjunctions remember conjunctions junction. I was learning about the preamble Damn, do you think TV's gotten better worse for kids? TV's reading rainbow TV's I mean, I'm not a parent, so I don't know. I don't want you to need that shit. You guys have gotten both. TV's gone to shit, but internet now, of course, kids will learn.

Don't all kids watch YouTube now that, I mean, nobody, I feel like so. Dude, I just paid for dish network to hook up my TV with all these channels. What do my kids do? They go on YouTube. I just wasted money. So I just tell you the worst one out there. I feel is like Kaya. Yeah. Can you feel me on that? Can you have cancer or is it just that's how you know what's going on with him? But he's the whine. Just little shit. I don't know. I know I have no idea. Bro, Kaya is a cartoon.

Yeah, it's so how do you spell it? It's a weird spelling too. Okay. Is it a YouTube? I don't know you. Watch this. My kids used to watch a lot. But he looks like, well could you, since I'm sitting in the room and I don't know what the fuck you're talking about, I'm sure there's thousands of people in there because you please fucking explain it.

I, yeah, you're showing me, but nobody can. No, but I'm asking you this question. I don't know anything about it, so I'm sure. When I first saw it, I'm like, oh no, are they doing it? What? Are they doing a cartoon about? It's like a cartoon about some kid. On YouTube?

No, it's on, yeah, but Charlie Brown was kind of bald. What was his deal? Yeah, I mean, he had a little like a cartoon about some kid on YouTube. No, it's on. Yeah, but Charlie Brown was kind of bald. What was his deal? Yeah, I mean, he had a little tough of hair. He was like it. Yeah, you guys were picking on a cartoon right now? Saying he has cancer? No.

Nobody looks like it. No, but it's sad because that's what I thought. Yeah, that's what I thought when I first saw it. And my question is like, why is this getting off? It's on regular regular regular cable. What's it on? It's like on the like Sprout. It's like on the like Spongebob.

Oh, that's right. Is it that popular? I've never heard of it. I mean, is it like Spongebob popular? It's popular. No, no, no, no. Spongebob is the king. But Kaiju so Sprout has these, especially if you have really young kids.

So that's that your youngest watches that shit, right? Yeah. Yeah. If you have really young kids and so that's your youngest watch, is that shit, right? Yeah. If you have really young kids, then they have these shows that are, you wanna kill everybody. They're so fucking annoying. To sit through it, just like,

Kai Yu is one of them. I feel like maybe, I would think you guys, because you guys are so connected to your children. I think you guys are great parents. You guys don't have like a, I think I have two kids. You don't have a channel that, after you don't have an educational channel that think I have two kids. You don't have a channel that...

You don't have an educational channel that's like cartoon slash education that they watch or something that you got them to. Of course, but then they get over it after a while. It's like little Einstein and like... I like little Einstein. Yeah. So there's, I mean, there's a few educational type like

cartoons or like programs that they watch, but it's just like... Well, you know how kids are too though, like kids will hook on something. They love it and then they watch it so much and then they get over it. But then during that period of watching it so much, you just it just it burns itself in your brain. Yeah. And it becomes horrible. So would you say that they're like clockwork orange?

They don't, they don't watch a lot of these shows. They do watch a lot of these shows. I mean, do they get you guys feel like it's worth TV's worst now educational wise for the kids? You do have to navigate like to find. Well, so here's the thing. I mean, I think as a kid for me, I remember like reading Rainbow and I remember I remember Mr. Roger.

Captain, I remember a lot of these shows that you got some, you know, good information as a kid, right? The stuff that you could learn. And, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, it's like Michelle, you know, I was like, B-le-le-le-le, they're like, you have this like moral thing he would tell her. Yeah, or even he, man. Yeah. Hey, today kids, I killed, you know, four enemies with my sword, but the message is to be nice with everyone.

I'd tell you guys, I had Brianna reach out to Bob Sagitt because he's coming into town for the improv. Thought maybe we'd get him on the show. No way. That'd be awesome. I know he has no, I know he has nothing to town for the improv that maybe we get him on the show. No way. That'd be awesome. I know he has no. I know he has nothing to do with fitness with that. Well, shit, he's in San Jose already.

Maybe, and I think he just released a book or something. So I thought, oh, this could be cool. We could have him come on the show. Yeah, actually, she presented to me at the fuck. Yeah, why not? You know, I'm saying like Bob Saggett, like full house. We all watch full house growing up. I've seen a lot of his stand up.

It's too bomb-erotic. I love Bob Sagunchy right? Yeah, to the dignity and he was on entourage like I mean I definitely I think it would be a funny guest to talk to Probably probably a cool guy or he's a learning asshole not sure. Yeah, I think he I don't know He's fair. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, what was it you were gonna say is you were gonna tell us a story at them? I wasn't telling you story. Yeah. Oh when we were in the warehouses, it just reminded me. So as a kid of one of my first jobs I had, when we were in high school, this was my God,

sophomore, freshman, sophomore year. So this was before I started working at the dairy. I worked a job where we were in these warehouses and my buddies, my buddies parents own like, they own this mixing company and I forgot the name of it, but we mixed a lot of stuff like Hershey Chocolate, we did, we did, we did, we did Way Protein.

We did Way Protein for, what was the big brand? Designer, now look at designer way protein. Now look at me, be honest now. What? Did you ever, you don't lie? Absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely, you don't lie? Absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely.

Absolutely. Absolutely. I thought you were saying it's dick. So this is, I, you didn't. What we were responsible for, and I did everything. So I worked. Why were the chocolates salty? Yeah.

I was just waiting. I was just waiting. You're getting a rough making. No, I'm done. Okay. We worked assembly lines. We worked, we had to clean up the warehouse afterwards. So we've done everything from running the huge bags,

sewing the bags, loading the bags, putting the lids on top of the Hershey cans and Girodelli chocolate we did, loading the protein powder inside the creat, we did creatine. I've seen all this. This was my first experience being around supplements like this, which already made me scratch my head

and go like, a bunch of high school kids. We're not measuring shit out. Just throw it in there. Yeah, because so the way these companies work, right? Yeah, so there's like levels of like purity, right? So as long as you pass, like you pass, and the restrictions on things that don't have to be FDA regulated like are Really easily can get away with so there's a pound of dirt there. It's not a big deal

Yeah, I'm exaggerating right now, but it's like there's very little regulation that goes into this But man, we used to so we would come in after these shifts So that was a fun job like if you worked assembly line I was making minimum wage standing in a line for eight hours doing some bullshit job that was a fun job. Like if you worked assembly line, I was making minimum wage, standing in a line for eight hours, doing some bullshit job that was repetitive, which was super motivating as a kid to make sure I didn't get stuck doing just in total respect for anybody that has to do that. I'm not talking shit. It was just very motivating for me. Like, okay, I need to make sure I don't have to do this for the rest of my life because

I don't like this right at all. But what we did have fun doing was after the warehouse closed down, all the employees left, there was a team of us that would come in and we would clean the warehouse. You'd have to clean it and prep it for the next shift that came in the next morning. And we all love doing that because there was no bosses, there was nobody in there, there was forklifts, and there was all these rafters.

And oh, dude, we would turn the lights off and do high, we'd order pizza, pizza would come in, and we'd like throw, its and, oh, dude, we would turn the lights off and do high, we'd order pizza, pizza would come in, we'd like throw, it would be like work slash fucking late like tag and hide and seek and hopping from rafter to rafter. My buddy actually, when we all had to stop it, was when he backed the forklift through the fucking roll up door.

And then we were all fucked up to that. All lost our jobs, nobody was allowed to work there anymore. But he was fucking around, everybody was fucking around on the four-cliffed, doing donuts and doing cool shit. And he had it in reverse, thinking it was going forward, stepped on it, and that shit went right through one of those aluminum roll-up doors. Yeah, there was no way for us to patch that up and act like nothing happened. Now, now did you guys, because it seemed to me, the instant thing that came to my mind right now is

you've got all this creative team powder, right? Take a big pile of it, put on a table, sit in front of it and pretend to be Tony Montana. Take a picture. Well, this was, that would have been a cool picture, right? Absolutely. We did stuff like that. Only this was before cell have been a cool picture, right? Absolutely. We did stuff like that only. This was before cell phone cameras existed. So, yeah.

So, and none of us carried around like a actual camera camera. Yeah, some of the stone tablet and a chisel. Like, well, there's like tolerate. Isn't it funny to think though that like so our generation, like now if kids would probably take pictures of that post on their Instagram, it would be viral right away. And you probably be caught where we didn't do any of that stuff because I didn't even exist, you know.

Now it was one of your first jobs? It was one of them. Yeah, I did a lot of little odd, odd and inns like that. Like my dad did construction, so I worked on construction sites, so I had a little bit experience doing that. Everything from building fences to plumbing stuff to framing to roofing to blah, blah, blah, everything that encompasses construction. What was your first job, Justin?

Me and Dig and Dig is. Really? It was horrible. Really? A lot of stuff was based off of house, like building houses and framing houses and roofing and I actually worked a warehouse job too, but this was more when I was like in junior high and in high school and like it was just straight up slave labor. Like my dad would like, would bring me to his work at like 5 a.m.

And I would load these heavy ass windows and doors off of trucks like all fucking day long. Which is guy who in like, this is where they hire labor people and stuff. And it's so funny because I would hang out with them and they would disappear at lunch. I could never find them. So I'm just low in the shit by myself until they stroll back in it like three or four o'clock. It was bad, dude, because I was responsible for getting all the shit off, putting it on. and these windows were like, you know, fuck dude, they were huge.

Like Bay windows have you ever seen? Like, yeah, how big they can get? Yeah, so it was like, how the hell do you move that? So you have to, you have to have like a lot of dollies. And I had to like, just pick them up, put them on the dollies and like, like center it and like make sure everything was like, you ever break it?

Never break it in? And, no, actually no, but I did. I was supposed to move the van. One of the guys that had a service van, I was supposed to move it for him and I got hit reverse and I slammed into the dock. I was like, because of this metal plate, it kind of sticks out for the truck. And so that metal plate pierced right through the back of the van like all the way through and like cut its way. Oh my god I got in trouble for that. Did you ever sell? Do you ever do factory work or anything? I didn't have a license

So I was like fuck so my first like actual paying job because I worked with my dad when I was a kid and he was a you know He's a tile set or any did stone and all that stuff So I mixed cement and shit like that but my first actual job job where I show up and they pay me, I was a dishwasher. Now, when I, you know, I've always had this like sense of like wanting to impress my boss. So, and I would look up to my boss that no matter what I was doing. So here I am, I'm a dishwasher.

The head cook, I'm like, I really want to impress this guy. I really look up to him, just hilarious. But, and so I'll do a really good job or whatever, and I always thought this guy was cool, and he'd take me home sometimes, because at the time I didn't have my license yet, because I was really young, and I'll never forget, dude, one day.

So, in the back is where you'd wash dishes, right? So I was at this pizza place down in South San Jose. And in the dish washing area, you have these high racks where you put the cups, and then the lower rack is where they give you all the dirty dishes, and you rack them in this rack, and then there's this fucking amazing dishwasher, by the way. I still want one of my house,

because it would wash these dishes in like a minute. Like you close the fucking, you close the door, there's two doors, you shut them down, push a button and be like, ah, I know exactly. And then you pull them up and then boom, they're clean. So I don't know what it was doing, but it was amazing. So, but if I had plates and be like, ah, yeah, I know exactly. And then you pull them up and then boom, they're clean. So I don't know what it was doing, but it was amazing. So, but if I had plates and cup stack,

I was in this little cove and you couldn't see me if you walked in the back, because if you walk in the back, there's also the entrance to the big walk in fridge and there's all this, like, you know, like, you know, big bags of, you know, flower and shit that they'd use to make pizzas and stuff, right? So you couldn't necessarily see me,

or hear me if the dishwasher was running because it was loud as fuck. So one night, I'll never forget this. Here I am, I don't know, 15 maybe, 15 years old or just turned 16. I'm real impressionable. I'm trying to do a really good job. I really want to work hard. I look up to this cook who's, you know,

it's married man with kids at Bindu's house a couple times. So I'm washing dishes and I hear giggling in the room with me, but they obviously it's on the other side of this wall of dishes and shit, so I can't see what it is, but I hear like, and then I hear like, stop, oh my gosh. And I hear that and I'm like, what the fuck is going on?

So I look around the corner and he's fucking making out with one of the waitresses. Yes. And it's not. And it's not. We talk about restaurant stories. Bro, bro, but it's like he's making out with her, right? And then so I see them and I go right back around inside my cove area. So now I'm like, and remember I'm like a 16 year old kid, like, I'd never seen anything like this before. I come from a very, you know, traditional conservative family. Like, if you did this, like, you were just horrible. Like, I didn't understand the complexities of humans

like I do now. And it's a bad thing to do regardless, but for me, it was like, I don't know what to do. Like, I just witnessed like this man. I knew his wife, like, he just, Oh, he was married. This is the owner married with kids Oh, and I just saw him make out with a waitress

So I'm in the back and I'm just like what the fuck do I do? So I'm in the back so I take a dish and I like drop it so that it makes a bunch of noise Not enough to break it, but enough to make noise and then I hear them like she's latched She's like and then she, and they stop. And then I keep washing dishes. And then he comes around the corner he sees me. And he's like, hey, Sal, I'm like, hey, what's up, man? He goes, what are you doing?

Well, I'm just washing dishes. He's like, okay, did you come out there at all? I'm like, no, and he goes, all right. And he walks away. So he had no idea that I saw him, right? Yeah. So I went home that night, and I'm not, this is true story, right?

I was so fucking tormented by this information that I just saw this dude. Yeah, she'd on his wife You tell your parents. No, I think so here's a thing. I was totally tormented by it So I'm like, what do I do? Do I? I was like I was so bro. I was this close. I was this close calling his wife. What? Yes Because I was I don't know what to do. I wanted to do the right thing. Like, I'm like, what do I do? Do I tell his wife?

And you know why I didn't call his wife? So innocent. Because you know why I didn't call his wife? Because I miss some fucking kid. And I know for a fact, he would have denied it and they both would have turned on me. And it wouldn't have helped anybody. And so I just didn't say shit to anybody.

But wow, man. That's like when I saw my manager snorting coke all in this bathroom stall. Like he had the door kind of cracked open. And he was just like giving me shit about not cleaning enough in my section and blah, blah, blah. I go in there, I'm just like, you know, I'm taking a piss and I kind of look in

and he's like, oh my god. Like a shit ton of coke. Like it wasn't just like you know like little bumps he's just like getting all of his face and I was like I kind of look in and then like we made eye contact and he looks up like all like parent like oh shit you know and I'm just like uh-huh yeah all right all right buddy and I went back out and then he tried to say some shit and I was like ah I just started ignoring him from then on. And you just can't say shit buddy. And he was just cool with you from that point. He was cool with me from then on.

God man, I hate that. I hate when I see something and if that's wrong and then you're in that kind of conundrum like, what do I do? Yeah, you know what I mean? Is it gonna help or is it gonna make things worse? So I was in a... Let him bury themselves.

I was in a crazy similar situation. He got divorced eventually by the way, so maybe feel better So at least a divorce exactly. I was in a almost identical situation to your cell only mine was an ongoing thing and with my best friend In school, so we were 17 years old and I'm gonna try and like do this without giving too much information No name. Yeah, no name. Yeah, no, names. Yeah, just your best friend in high school, when you were 17, nobody's gonna get elected. He can know, I don't want to ruffle anymore crazy feathers with this family, it's a bit like,

because they did divorce later on and stuff like that. But we were 17 years old and we worked this job and the husband and wife, they had three kids, husband and wife, they were in their early 30s, so between, I can't remember between 30 and 34 when we were 17, and my best friend has an affair with the wife who's- You're 17 year old friend? Yes.

Oh my God. And that they were the boss. So the crazy part was he was like this kind of quiet shy, no sexual experience kid. Perfect print. And I was kind of like the loud outspoken one. Well, I had a girlfriend in high school and the wife, you always talked to me about relationships and this and that.

And I knew that the husband and wife were kind of going through it and they weren't speaking. I mean, I get to see these people every single day all the time. So I get to know the family. I was part of the family business. They had hired me. I've been working there for a few years.

I then brought my buddy on who had been working there now for like a year and then he tells me one day and I'm like, what the fuck bro, you're fucking the boss's wife? Like, are you kidding me right now? So he, they went on with this for like maybe, I don't know, a year and a half, two years. Oh my god, that was a long thing. Oh, it was a very long thing and she got like, she was like falling in love with him.

And he got like freaked out like, what do I do? Like dude, we're in high school. He's got a 30 something year old married woman with two or three kids that is like in love with him, wanting to leave her husband for him. And he's like, dude, what do I do? And I'm like, don't bring me into this shit right now. I brought you two. I'm gonna get up and fucking roasted,

dude, for bringing you here. And now you're sleeping with the boss's wife. So, and like, he used to share these crazy stories with me where they would be fooling around. And he would be like, coming around the corner, like right afterwards, and they pretend to work. Like, oh, dude, it was crazy. So I know how dangerous that is,

because I'll tell you something right now, the one thing you never wanna do is get caught banging someone's wife by the husband because it's, if there's ever a likelihood, you would die. Yeah, if there's ever a likelihood that someone mergers, that's someone who's kind of on the edge anyway, it's gonna push them over

and wanna kill you. Yeah, it's that. Especially at their place. Especially at their place too At their place too. Like dude, you kidding me right now? Like you're easily I shoot you with a shotgun and pretend it was accident because you're on my property. You understand?

You're safe. I thought he was attacking me. What? Oh God, dude, you kidding me? So crazy. Yeah, now that was pretty, pretty wild. This is crazy. One time, God, this was years just a long,

I just remembered this. I had totally repressed this. A long time ago, I had seen this older kind of, she didn't look full on homeless, but you could tell, she wasn't, you know, she wasn't having good times, you know what I'm saying? And I was at the grocery store and she took a box of something, I don't remember what it was exactly and she put it underneath her sweater and she's walking around with it and I know I'm like this this fucking

lady's gonna steal that shit. And half of me is like you fuck you don't steal because I you know I'm you know I'm always like you know that's just wrong right. And then the other half of me is conflicted because I'm looking at her and I'm like, man, she's, she really needs it. She's probably in her 40s. She definitely doesn't look like she's, you know, some wealthy, whatever. And it's food, you know what I mean? It's not like she's stealing electronics or whatever. I don't know. I just kind of was so conflicted. So I walked up to her and the grocery store. This is a true story. I was, I was young. I was just a kid. I walked up to her and I said, Hey, I said, I see that, I see what you're hiding under your sweater. And she up to her and I said, hey, I said, I see what you're hiding under your sweater. And she goes, what, I'm not hiding,

I see what you're hiding it under your sweater. I said, if you take it out, I said, I'll buy it for you and I'll buy you some other stuff too. And she actually took it out and I bought her some fucking groceries, believe it or not. How old were you? I was young, I must have been, I was probably 18, maybe at the oldest, but it was very conflicted

and what I told myself was, if she lies about it, if I offered to buy her the shit, and she lies, then I'm gonna tell her. No, that's a good move. Yeah, and so I felt better about buying those things for her, but it was actually took a lot of courage. It was very, I was very, I was intimidated. Like, what do I say?

Very noble. Just person is a noble. It could have backfire. Verbal deed. It could have backfire. You think so? Yeah, she well I would the fuck you know, cuz she didn't actually steal it yet Yeah, you know saying she could have totally been very

Which grace of a new and do you know that technically by law that you can do that right? Like you could stuff all these things in your pockets like you're going to steal it Of course until you walk out that door you can't they can't do anything and she did she did deny it at first And I said look at I'll buy I'll pay for said, look, I'll pay for that for you. And I'll pay for whatever else you want. And she actually walked off and then came back to me afterwards and she said, well, how about if I get this this and I about our few things? And I felt a lot better about that.

You know, I was telling Katrina, I could tell you back for a night before last, we are grocery shopping and I was like, you were standing and waiting in line and I'm like, God, isn't it crazy how this is going to all change in the next like 10 years? Like I really, I predict that like, you know how we already have already evolved to like self-check out You know and when self-check out first started like hardly anybody used it

Mm-hmm And now you see like you actually see a line to get it right to the self-check out almost always right So when you find out how simple it is to check your own stuff out You know so slowly, but surely you're starting to see the elimination of like these people that are doing checking. And eventually I foresee that there'll be some sort of a weight, a weighted type of scale where you also will have a scanner or what you'll scan.

Yes, you'll just push your cart over it, it'll scan the whole thing and it'll, in a way, it kind of the same type, same formula that it does when after you've skipped bar. It's like, yeah, it's, what is it? Tractor trailers, you know how they go through? Yeah, and so they scan everything that's inside the tractor trailer and the weight and all that.

Yeah, same technology's there. I'm sure it's in the works. Oh, it's gotta be in the work. Eventually, you'll see a grocery store being managed by. Especially if they keep raising minimum wages and stuff like that, they're applying a lot of pressure on that market and it's just going to make it totally viable for them. It's such a great point that you bring that up.

It's why I get so annoyed by people that are so pro minimum wage going up. Because you don't even realize what's happening. You think it's all pro, or it's all good because you're a minimum wage person and you just got a dollar bump or whatever. You don't realize is that now all the people that are running that facility or whatever you're a part of are going like finding ways to eliminate your job. Yeah, yeah, how to automate.

Yeah, because it doesn't make sense, you know, or you're taking a straight from there. It's just a market pressure. You artificially create that market pressure. It's good, look, here's the thing. It's gonna happen at some point, doesn't matter. Whether you add minimum wage or not, things will probably be automated.

You're just making it happen a lot faster. When you're telling a company that you're raised, they're gonna raise their cost of, you know, of staying in business, and then they're like, well, we might as well go this way and save money. It's like you mentioned when we were driving over the bridge and that person's like taking your money.

Oh, the toll. Why the fuck are you here doing this? Like really do we need this? Yeah, it doesn't make any sense to me. Do you you know we got a ticket yesterday? You know those new lanes that you guys we have the fast track lanes over off of 580. So I didn't even realize like maybe three weeks ago Katrina and I went back to see my my sister for my niece's one-year-old birthday party and it was also the same night we were heading out to the Warriors game.

And so we were bombing on 580 back to go to the Warriors game. And I don't even remember what time it was, but it was Katrina and I together, and I just assumed that I can use that fast lane if like a commuter lane, but it doesn't work that way. So if it's during these certain hours, you know, whether you have two people in your car or not, you can't get in those fast track lanes.

I didn't know that. I also didn't realize that how they get you. They, it's all, so I think it's got, so you have a little fast track thing that goes in your car and it scans it when you go buy checkpoints. So I got this ticket in the mail with a screenshot of my license plate and a bill for driving in that. I'm like, motherfucker man, we're even automating the law, dude.

Oh yeah. You didn't get to catch me in person anymore. Well, dude, think about it this way. Why, you know how long ago they could have controlled speed limits and on freeways if they really wanted to. Right. You know, easy would have been to be like, okay, speed limiters in all cars, nobody could go faster than 70 miles an hour done problems off.

Yeah, so much more money. Or here's some cameras, this is how fat, I mean, people don't really want that, right? They like the fact that they can kind of get away with shit. And I'm sure auto manufacturers don't want that either. Isn't it funny when you think about that? That's so true. All cars would have two gears, you know what I mean? They'd be super fast at 65 miles an hour.

Yeah, they get away with it. But I get there the fastest. Yeah, exactly. I get a zero 70. Yeah. That's the hour. Yeah, I get away with it. Did I get there the fastest? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I get a zero-edible. Yeah. 0.0. How fast is the bird coming?

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I have this. You got broken wrist, you probably don't want to press it. This is my issue right now. It's not a literal broken wrist, you should explain. Yeah, so probably example if you follow me on Instagram. I think I've done a post in the last month or so of me doing a shoulder press behind the head and you'll notice that even when I squat, I have a broken wrist still and I had some, you know, some people automatically love to point out any flaws in any of my form and technique.

So that was one of the first things someone pointed out and I said, yes, fully aware that I still have broken wrist. And what that is is I do not have the shoulder mobility yet to still get myself in that fully retracted position that my wrist can stay neutral. So even though it's in your wrist, it's not a wrist issue that you're dealing with. It's a shoulder. It's a compensation. Yes. So your wrists are breaking because your shoulders cannot retract back enough to keep them in the neutral position. So it's actually your shoulder mobility that you need to address.

And that's what's prime is all about. Here's the problem. So a broken wrist is when your wrist is extended and the weight is sitting in your hand with an extended wrist. In other words, it's like when you knew when you would do a push up and you're on the floor doing push ups and your wrists are in that position

because your hands are pressing on the floor, it's similar to that except you're holding a barbell. So your wrists are just bent back versus having a lot of force. Versus having straight wrists where it's all lined up. Now here's why a broken wrist is a bad idea. If I'm pushing a lot of weight, and I'm like,

Let's not say bad idea, let's say in fear. Less optimal. Yes, less optimal. Well, okay, so I don't want to say bad because there's a lot of people on both sides of this camp that will debate us. Well, here's the problem with it. The problem with broken wrist is if,

with any joint, if I'm applying resistance on a joint's end range of motion and I allow the ligaments and the joint itself to support a lot of the weight then I can get problems. Now if I have a broken wrist but it's not at its end range of motion

and it's not being supported by the joint and I'm actually supporting it by the muscles of my wrists, my fingers and my forearm, then I'm okay. Now the bad part about that then is of course I'm training that particular recruitment pattern and it becomes very difficult then for me to learn how to press with straight wrist. Now with I'm in a straight wrist, I'm not at any range of motion or not at any excuse me, end range of motion. So it's straight. Straight me neutral. Neutral right? So there's no issue with that.

It's the same thing with like rounding your back when you deadlift or. It's forced distribution. I mean, if you can, I mean, have it in that position, it's optimal because now that force is able to travel further down like more media to the body. So it's coming into the body versus like, if I have my wrist broken in back

Like think about how much stress you're placing right there on that joint specifically versus it being able to travel down further So you see this in bench press like people will bench a lot with the broken wrist Yeah, and you'll see people have wrist problems as a result There is a way to place the bar towards like on the heel of your hand So it's still pressing on you know on a less vulnerable part of the joint But let's move away from the from the risk for a second. Let's just talk about the shoulder Well, yeah, that's because this is where really the issue is the issue actually has nothing really to do with the wrist What so ever has everything to do with your

Yeah, but besides the compensation part it's also bad for your shoulders to press this way and I'll explain why or at least Bad might be the wrong word. It's also bad for your shoulders to press this way and I'll explain why or at least Bad might be the wrong word. It's less optimal because when I'm holding away with a broken wrist and my elbows are actually not Traveling as far down as they can and range of motion because the second I straighten my arm out I get another Maybe half an inch of range of motion because the bar now is a little bit higher in my hand than when I'm holding it with a broken wrist. So it actually increases range of motion. The second thing is when you're pressing a weight, you want the line to be as straight as possible between the joints. You want that bar to be on top of the joints that are pressing the weight because it's

biomechanically advantageous, it keeps it more stable, positioning tends to be a little bit better. If I'm pressing it to where the bar is not sitting on top of the joints that are moving it in a straight line, I'm now having to support the weight a little bit differently. It's not just up and down, now I'm supporting it now more, maybe immediately or laterally or whatever,

because the weight is being placed differently now. That happens with the kettlebell as well, except the way you grip a kettlebell is completely different than with the barbell. And the weight of the kettlebell is much lower than your wrist, whereas when you have a barbell, it's the lever is a little bit higher. The way you correct this is you work on scapular retraction and depression. If I can get my, the humerus part of my arm back and down and my elbows underneath the bar, then I can grab it with a straight wrist and I'm not having an issue.

Well, you're going to really see this in zone one of prime. So when you're taking, when you're going that's what I'm totally when you're going through prime, the first assessment that we take you through is the the shoulder mobility, right So, and you do the wall test, and for sure, if you're somebody who is pressing with a broken wrist, prime is going to then direct you into the corrective movements that you should be doing to address this. So, it's actually really common,

just because we talk about this, upper cross syndrome is one of the most common deviations, we're just rounded, everybody's rounded forward, and then when you try and do a movement, even sometimes when you're not even doing it behind the back press, like I said, you'll notice it like me, when you squat, or pressing a bar behind your head at all,

the bench press one, like you can argue back and forth people will debate that, like power lifters, sometimes you utilize that technique, and that's not really what we're talking about. We're talking about somebody who is trying to move a bar behind their head and then they have to break their wrist in order for the bar to clear their head. And that's just it. Is that obviously if you have to break the wrist to move the bar behind your head,

then it's not ideal. Now, I still have this, but I still also work on it. So it's not like, you know, oh, I have it, and I just say fuck it, just, you know, it's shoulder retraction right now is a, is a shoulder mobility for me, is been a major focus the last six months. And I definitely feel like I've came a long way,

but I'm not there yet where I can do this press without any broken wrist. This is also where you see a lot of people in the gym that will start using wrist wraps, not the straps, not the one that attached to the bar, but the actual little weight belts that they put around the wrist. And you'll see people, I've seen people squatting with them and they were not even powerlifters because the wrist breaks so hard when they squat.

That was me. And they're supporting so much weight. That was me for sure. I had to, whenever I squatted, you know, 315 plus, I would wrist wrap my wrist because in order for me to get the bar in that low enough position that I liked it, my wrist would be broken and that heavy of a weight on my pressure on it.

Absolutely. So, and this was part of what made me really regress back and then start to work on that because it was like, obviously if I'm getting to the point where I have to wear wrist wraps, you know, or you know, tape my wrist or do anything like that before I squat, obviously I've got issues, you know, instead of just crutching them, I should address those. You'll also see lifters take a super wide grip on the bar when they're squatting or place

their hands on the plates. And that's all because they have issues with shoulder mobility. But yeah, with a shoulder press, what I would do is I would stop doing Behind the next shoulder presses with the barbell and I would focus on doing presses with dumbbells because then you can kind of The weight does you're not stuck with the bar behind your head You're working with the dumbbell and start working like I would do Arnold presses with the dumbbell and really focus on scapular traction at the top and then start doing kettlebell presses and really focus on that spiral motion and really work on the mobility and then you'll find when you go to the behind the neck press, it's more

better. I agree and disagree. I agree because I think those are great movements that take the shoulder through full range of motion. But where I disagree is that what happens sometimes when we teach somebody a movement like that, the shoulders still going to take the dominant pathway because they've already formed their body a certain way. What I did was I regressed the weight. So you just have to take the, I got to lift a bunch of weight mentality and maybe you have

to start with a PVC pipe. So one, I used our maps prime to prime my shoulders first. So then I prime my body, I get connected and do all my movements like my shoulder dislocates, my band pull apart, my threading the needle, my handcuff with a rotation. All these are priming movements in maps prime that help me get that shoulder retraction. Then I go over to the bar and just do the 45-pound bar, which I started with just the bar, no weight, and I work on keeping the wrist from breaking and just moving the bar behind my head

and up without having to. Well, it's really, it's identifying your limitations in your range of motion. And so the only way to do that is to get a proper assessment and then find where you know your limitations lie and then address that very specifically and like how do we increase the capacity for supported range of motion with your shoulders retracting, depressing properly with your wrists lining up, your elbows and then we take all that information you're sending your

body and then we start patterning that sequence in pressing type movements. So you just, I mean, to be honest, to be on the real, you really have to, you have to address that there's a dysfunction because it's showing you that. What about the tension press with the stick behind the neck? Yes, absolutely, that would be a great one.

Awesome. Yeah, you just grab a stick, take your grip, and you could try different versions of it. You grip the stick real hard, and pull your hands apart on the stick. So they're not actually separating, but you're creating outward tension, and then come down as low as you can without breaking form, and then press back up, and then the reverse, drive the hands together, again, the hands are stationary,

so they're not actually coming together, but you're creating inward tension, and then again, come down as low as you can. And this tension is, man, it's such a great tool of refining that, you know, the more you really amp up this signal and you bring light to this movement, your body, your teaching the body that this is a priority, this is something that we need support. We need, and your body gets more comfortable the more you can intrinsically add more tension to that movement. Well, this is why we were so excited about Maps Prime.

I mean, this is what it's about, because we know, like, being trainers and training the people, many people's we have, is that very few people do I get to just like, here you go, here's a program, follow this, you're gonna get buffed and ripped and lean like Honestly 99% of the people that I've ever had a train these are the issues that I have to address along the way of getting them to whatever their I didn't their ideal goal is so you know

This is why we knew that prime was so essential and that it was a must that Everybody goes through this assessment and sees this because regardless if you want to lose 50 pounds or build 30 pounds of muscle or whatever, like this is like, this is definitely the foundation, this is definitely what you have to figure out how to incorporate this. And that's what the idea of prime was to teach people to find these areas where they have the most dysfunction and then how to teach them specific movements to fix this dysfunction while they're also going through their regular program. Perceptive change. Considering you focus on mobility, longevity, and bodybuilding, how about strong man training? interesting because when you go online and you look up or you look at the routines of actual competitors, a strong man, it looks like a combination powerlifting with some specific

bodybuilding type moves. Believe it or not, I've seen strong man routines with leg press and leg extension, leg curls and stuff like that. But then they always add a skills segment to their training where they're specifically training for like the Atlas Ball. Yeah, they're exactly a tie or something. Something that's specific to their particular sport. So I want to be clear here, they're strong man training if you're a competitor and then

they're strong man type training that the average person can do. Now I like, now let's just not talk about specific competitive strong man training because that's so specific. You're training for a particular competition. It's no different than like the, you know, competition prep for bodybuilding or powerlifting specific training for powerlifting. But let's, let's talk about how we can apply what strong men do for the average person who wants to really get big and strong. And one of the things that strong man type training has and advantage over other types of training is, you will do more quote unquote,

functional strength based exercises with strong man training than you will if you just do the traditional barbell and dumbbell exercises because they incorporate things like atlas balls and carries and firemen, you know, farmer walks and all these different kinds and they do incorporate timed lifts. So they get a little bit of strength and endurance in there

or grip training where the holding things for as long as they possibly can. But then there's specific things to strong man training that may not benefit you so much. Like you see strong men using a lot of wrist wraps. Why? Because they're allowed to use them in competition. So they're going to train more specifically for the competition in that particular.

Yeah, I think you need to look at, once you, like you said, when you get into any sport, there's always going to have the drawback of what's ideal for the body, right, for longevity reasons. But I do like, and I would have to say that strongman training is probably up there with top three of like best things or best movements for the body in comparison to a lot of sports out there. Like, most other sports you do like the same thing, repetitive over and over. Strongman does a lot of functional things that we would do.

I mean, lifting a lot of a certain way, doing farmer walks, overhead pressing, lifting a big heavy atlas. These are stuff, if there's things that would simulate our normal day, like at one point in your life, everybody in here is lifted a TV that was really heavy, right? Or helped carry a refrigerator somewhere, or these type of movements are probably the most practical, or carry lots of groceries or a bunch of weight, concrete over your show.

I mean, a lot of these movements, these strong men have to do, you know, pushing a car or pulling a, I mean, I've done all these things, right? Very rarely have I ever, like, how I train to be a bodybuilder and get on stage and present. Very rarely ever did I do a, you do a reverse fly bent over cable machine out in the real world somewhere, you know, where I was bent over at 90 degrees with a fixed position in my elbow and I'm doing a reverse, like these type of movements I'm doing to sculpt the physique, I never had to ever do that outside in real life where strong man stuff, man, a lot of the stuff that they do simulates a lot of what we're doing, but then there's just like anything else in sport, there's an extreme side to that.

And when you have to start wrapping and bracing and doing that, well, it makes sense for them because they're competing at an elite level and you're allowed to use those things, the average person, they would probably benefit more from just the movements, but not allowing themselves to crutch themselves with the things to assist it, right? Yeah, I would say if you were to look at the strength sports, strong man is, it's gotta be one of, strong man training's gotta be one of the more functional types of training.

Now, I know some people are like, no, CrossFit, you know, CrossFit's more... Oh hell no. I've seen... Hell no. The problem with CrossFit's their programming, strong man programming, when I look at it, I've seen programming from strong man competitors. I I look at it, I've seen programming from

strong man competitors. I know people who compete or train with these athletes and I look at their programming and it's done pretty well a lot of times. It's actually kind of smart sometimes the way that they put these things together and I see the rhyme and reason behind all of it, whereas a lot of times with CrossFit, I don't see the rhyme and reason between behind all of it, whereas a lot of times with CrossFit, I don't see any rhyme and reason. I see that we've talked about a million times before. I would say if you're looking for functional strength,

real world, applicable functional strength, definitely incorporate some of these strong man exercises and techniques into routine. If you have access to them, like just doing a farmer walk. You know, a farmer walk, you don't need special equipment. If you're at the gym and you got, they have dumbbells, get a heavy pair of dumbbells

and walk for distance with good upright type posture with nice focused walk, that is going to, that's gonna be nice carry over to everyday life and to your other list. Well, it reminds me a lot of why, you know, we'd get excited for the guys that would like, they came to the football team that were raised on a farm, you know. They were strong as shit, right, from throwing haybells.

They do all this stuff. They walk with hay. They, you know, they chuck it up on, you know, they they chuck it up on you know The top of the barn, you know, they're just doing shit all day long digging thing, you know like just It's one of those things that you just know if if you did all these types of raw strength movements You know, it's gonna pay off and and you know strongman does have a lot of those elements in it So but yeah, like you said it could get totally extreme and you know, it could be lot of those elements in it. But yeah, like you said, it could get totally extreme and it could be one of those things where it's,

just like any sport, like you wanna see how far you can go with it. So you're gonna load your body with it. Just a ridiculous amount of weight. Caution or listeners, there's a scale to it. Yeah, I would say, if you wanna really do strong man training,

there's certain exercises you could do at your regular gym, but otherwise I would go to a facility that has strong man training. There's certain exercises you could do at your regular gym, but otherwise, I would go to a facility that has strong man equipment and has some people there that know what they're doing. Yeah, I think if it's something you're really interested in and you think it's fucking cool, I think it is too, that that would be awesome. I think that'd be awesome to go to in B-trained. I would love to, even with all of our backgrounds, I still would rather have, in B-Train, I would love to, even with all of our backgrounds, I still would rather have, you know, a strong man train me on technique because even though we understand mechanics really, really well, picking up an atlas stone, there is a major technique to that. I mean, remember, we were at What's His Faces and we were all trying to pick up that atlas stone

at Shippade's place. Yeah, yeah. Shippade's place. And, you know, it's not just as simple as this leaning over. And it wasn't even like, it's not like heavy in the sense that you could lift a barbell that weighs that much, no problem. Yeah, no.

There's a technique to have you lift a knee, because I'm a rabbit. Yeah, yeah, it's a train. It's awkward. That recruiting. The only thing about strong man training that I find interesting is like, if you look at powerlifting training,

because strong men do a lot of training that looks similar to powerlifting. Oh, yeah. They do a lot of overhead pressing, a lot of squat men do a lot of training that looks similar to powerlifting. But they do a lot of overhead pressing, a lot of squatting, a lot of deadlifting. The difference with strong man training is they'll hit those higher reps and they'll do lots of that strength and endurance stuff. There is some endurance stuff. Whereas powerlifters don't do that. Well that's why I respect, like when they're carrying all this like heavy, heavy weight,

like they're actually walking with it. There's not really a whole lot like powerlifting, they're not having to walk until that weight. In fact, a lot of the competitions eliminate even stepping out of the squat cage. They just have the monolith that move the arms. Have you guys ever met in person, like professional high level strong men?

I don't know any personally, but I've been around them and they're fucking, when you meet a guy that's like on a professional level, that's a strong man. There, you can, there's such a genetic component. It's almost like another species. It is. They're, they're hands just in goliath. Oh yeah, they're hands just in golf my hands.

Their bone structure looks like it's three times aside. I mean, it's, I went to, I went to a fitness convention and I, I met two of them. I met Bill Kazmire, who was probably one of the most popular strongman competitors. He was a, you know, multiple time winner of the world's strongest man. I met him and he was doing this, like, demonstration. And at the time, I don't know how old he is now.

He's got to be in his 60s. So he must have been in his 60s or late 50s, okay? And he's sitting there, he's still a fucking beast of a man, right? And he's sitting there and he's got to be in his 60s. So he must have been in his 60s or late 50s, okay? And he's sitting there, he's still a fucking beast of a man, right? And he's sitting there and he's got a frying pan. You ever seen someone roll up a frying pan, like a piece of paper? That's the thing. Okay, so I always thought it was a trick.

I'm like, it's bullshit. No, it's a fucking real frying pan. He passed it around. I grabbed the frying pan. I'm like, this is a real frying pan. I wouldn't be able to just bend it a little bit. And this motherfucker who was a nice 30 years older than me rolled that shit up like a piece of paper.

And of course, you can see the guys hands, I mean, they look like myths and he's just this bear, right? Then there was another strong man who was massive. He was like, I don't know, six, eight and 375 pounds just like if this were a thousand year. Like my roommate in college. Dude like if this were a thousand year my roommate in college. Dude, if this were a thousand years ago, you give him a sword and he could take over your

ability. You know, he would you would take over the whole village. We all we all watch like Game of Thrones and things like that. Like there's a mountain. He's all yeah. He's always those guys are the guys that you always see like everybody had that army. That everyone has that one guy or couple guys in their army. That's just like it's your champion.

Yeah. Yeah, and you fight your champion. Yeah, he holds, he holds, his sword is like, weighs like 90 pounds by itself and shit, just ginormous. Dude, so he, so he, it's like 10 guys. So he had this thing, I don't remember what company it was working for, it was some supplement company, but he had this large smooth, and it was shaped

almost like a disc, but it was thicker, right? It's called something, right? Were you at the picket with one hand? You just, yes, what's that called? I don't know what it's called, and it was shaped almost like a disc, but it was thicker, right? It's called something, right? Were you pick it up with one hand? You just, yes, what's that called? I don't know what it's called, but it was like, kind of smooth like a black kettlebell would be. Our boy, Fletch fit, no, Fletch, should've was a text, I wanna let it go.

And so, you had a bucket of chalk there, and all you had to do was squat down and lift it with one hand. And if you could lift it with one hand, you got free supplements and a free t-shirt, and there was a line of people and I'm at a fitness convention It's a lot of strong people there nobody could budge this fucking thing and every once a while He would prove that you could lift it is possible dude

He lived it with his hand like it was like it was a toy and then he like thrown the air and catch it and then put it back down and it was so So demoralizing Yeah, there's nothing I could ever do that would be like, this is freakish. You can tell we're all into the strong man thing. We love them. Yeah, I think it's very, very cool. Just caution everybody.

I mean, it's definitely it's advanced sport. So if you're your average person just trying to get in shape, I would, you know, you got the genetics for awesome. Yeah, you probably know you have the genetics for it. I think you would know. Yeah. Rachel Donna Sicilian. Tips for kill selection. for awesome. You probably know you have the genetics for it. I think you would know. Rachel Donas to Celiana. Tips for Kim.

Selection. What to look for as a consumer. My mom needs a consumer. Tips for a gym selection. What to look for is, oh wow, this is kind of a cool question. This is a good question for now because we're in January. It's the second half of January. People are going to be getting into gyms, you know, trying to

check out, you know, facilities like what should they look for? Here's something interesting that I always find, very fascinating. You know, if I, let me ask you guys a question, and you can give me a rough number. How much Justin? Okay. You have a cell phone plan for you and your wife, right? Yeah. What does your bill normally look like every month? Well

160 something 160 bucks. How about you got them 240 240 bucks. I pay around I pay around 150 bucks for my cell phone if you go to the average person and You tell them hey, we're gonna give you this fucking gym with everything you're want and it's 150 bucks a month most people buy Yeah, yeah, so expensive. Yeah, I'm not a most people spend more Most people spend a hundred bucks on their TV and a hundred bucks on their cell phone But they look at a gym that costs anything over 30 bucks and it's this ridiculous cost It's you don't like because most people look at the gym as work Yeah, so it's a pain to go to work. That's how they do that.

That's my point. They're like, what's this job? I'm not that mode. That is my, that's 100% my point. Now think about it this way. Why are you looking for a gym in the first place? Is it so you can have access to equipment? No.

You're looking for a gym because you want to become healthier. You want to lose weight. You want to get fit. You want to get stronger. You want to feel better about yourself, maybe you're stressed out, whatever, but those goals are real goals to you and those goals are very important goals. In fact, if you were able to magically get those goals to happen for you, that would be invaluable.

There's no price, I could charge $100,000 until people like to snap my fingers and give you all the physical health goals you could ever want. I have a line of people out the door. So number one, rule number one is, go to a gym that you know you're gonna go to. Like this is a place I want to work out and stop worrying so much about the price because really the difference between $19 a month

and $120 a month for a gym is massive in the quality, in the staff, and what you're gonna get in that gym, and how crowded it's gonna be, and how clean it's gonna be. It's fucking huge, it's huge. Literally, a $19 a month gym, typically, you're gonna find a packed-is-hell gym during primetime. When the gym's assholes.

Bunch of shit fucks working out in there. It's filthy. The staff, sometimes it's kind of shitty or they change what was going to be a trotious right and so are you going to want to spend three to five hours a week in that place making yourself feel better because remember you're going there to feel better too right I don't want to go to a shit place that in defense of the cheap EFT gyms 19 to 24 dollars a month like you're saying, you know, there are exceptions to the rule

that, and you'll know when you come in and you meet the guy who's selling the membership to you because you'll feel awesome, right? If he does a really good salesman, there's really good energy in the place, you'll probably feel it right away. And if you don't feel it, you'll probably know you're stepping into

the exactly what's else saying, which is a sweaty, dirty, stinky, unracked, weights, terrible staff type of facility. And that's the thing, like what you get for that price. Like my point is, you're going in there and you're thinking to yourself, like I'm starting this thing, this new thing. But now, by the way, if you're a consistent gym goer and you're just looking to switch, switch gyms, you know what you're looking

for, you're going to go in, you're like, I'm going to use this no matter what, I'm going to work out and use this. But if you're new to this and're gonna go and you're like, I'm gonna use this no matter what, I'm gonna work out, I'm gonna use this, Quim. But if you're new to this and you haven't done it for years, like don't worry about like the cost, if you can afford it and a hundred bucks a month, people like again, they bulk at it, but they spend way more than a hundred bucks a month

on bullshit every single month. Go to a place you're gonna fucking go to that you wanna go to, a place that's got classes or whatever that you like or a quimit that you really like or it's a nice environment because the environment plays a huge role for the average person. Now for me, the environment, I can get a good work, I put my headphones on, if they got the equipment I want,

I can block everybody out and work out. Environment's important too, but I've worked on hotels and work on a show. Well, why do we need changes too? I mean, for me, now it all revolves around how awesome their kids club is. I mean, like the hours they're open, like if it's easy for me to drop off, I feel like comfortable enough to like, I can go do my thing.

Well, I was just going to say, why don't we go around real quick because I know that we all have multiple gym memberships. What made you the ones you have right now, so which ones do you have, which one did you have, what did you cancel, what did you keep paying for, and what made you make that decision? Because I know personally I have, I think I have access to four different gyms, four different types of gyms, including the Rs, right? And there's a reason why I pay for all of those, because there's something I get with all of them.

So, for example, I pay a 24-hour fitness membership, my least favorite out with all of them. So for example, I pay a 24-hour fitness membership. My least favorite out of all of them. But what I pay for is that we travel a lot. We're on the go a lot. And I can almost guarantee that there'll be a 24-hour fitness somewhere nearby. Accessibility as far as like in different locations. And they've actually done studies for this.

So I remember when I worked for 24-hour fitness, that's actually the number one reason why people get a gym membership is accessibility. That's the reason why 24 kills it because it's open 24 hours. And there's probably one closest. And there's probably one nearby you. So, that's, yeah.

I venture to say that's the number one thing that will attract the consumer and have them stick with going. It's convenience, right? Yeah, because it has to be, I'll have you keep going, but I have my list. Well, here's why. The weird's why convenience has been proven

to be like the number one is because getting to the gym can be already a daunting task for most people and that you have to talk yourself into it. And a lot of people are looking for the excuse not to go to be honest. Most people are gonna go, and nothing is easier than, oh, my gym's closed. I can't go. Oh, my gym's 30 minutes across town

and it's traffic right now. These are all easy ways to get you out from them. And when it's open 24 hours and it's near your home, it's a lot harder to make that excuse. So I think that's the reason why I keep that membership. Then I have like the luxury spa place like where I know Sal is going most mornings right now. I love that it has a very not clean bath.

I walk around their bathroom. Okay, at a gym, this is rare. At this gym, I walk around barefoot in the bathroom, and I feel comfortable. I feel like I'm in my home walking around, naked in barefoot in that place because the carpets are clean. The floors feel like they've just been mopped. They have a beautiful in-the-mins, in-the-women's they have separate

steam and sauna, jacuzzi set up, and I love going to that place. It's a little posh, but what I don't like about it, and that why I have also have a membership at golds, is I can't quite get in the same mindset at that place because it's so spawned posh, it also attracts those people. So when I go there and I don't want any clanging and banging, if I let waste slam on the floor, everybody turns around and looks at me like I'm a gorilla and I'm just like, okay, well, I don't like that either.

Normally I don't give a fuck, but when people complain about it, then it just irritates me. It's like, okay, you want me to set 500 pounds that on the ground and not make a noise? Okay, whatever. So I have a membership like at a place like Golds, which encourages loud weights and heavy lifting. So I like it for that.

And then of course, I have our facility where we have access to that. So I like the privacy of lifting by myself. So, yeah. Well, here's what you have to look at. So when they do studies on accessibility, there's a huge impact on whether or not people buy a membership. Is there a huge impact whether or not people keep using their membership with accessibility?

Actually not that much. In fact, of course there's a range if it's too far, there's a difference. But the difference between one being next to your house and one being just 10 minutes away and whether or not they continue using it It doesn't make that big of a difference and here's your evidence right here There's a million and one workout at home routines and a million and one pieces of equipment that people buy for their house That's just sitting their house and they hang clothes on so accessibility We think it's a we think it's super important like my God, if I had a gym in my fucking hat, look, I lived in an apartment complex for a little while here

and it had a gym in the apartment complex. I don't care what time I went in there, I was by myself. That's a very accessible gym and nobody fucking used it. It's not, that's not as important as you think. Of course, you don't wanna go too far, but realistically, the difference between a gym being right next to my house and one being 10 minutes away, it's not as important as you think.

Never stop me. There are more important things statistically speaking that will keep you going, and I'll tell you something right now, the rise of the small group training type facilities, the rise of the Crossfits, the rise of the cross fits the rise of the orange theories and the pilates studios and the yoga studios. The reason why those are becoming more and more popular is because people go and they don't stop like they do with regular gyms because the environment is different. It's a different play. They go and they see people they like, they get more interaction, it's cleaner, it's usually

nicer. And those gym memberships are on, three to four times more expensive. Now, let me ask you a question. If you're, what's better, spending $20 a month on some bullshit you never use, or spending $200 a month on something you use three days a week, one of them is a waste of money, and one of them is an investment.

That's the difference, and that's what I want you to think about. When you're looking at your gym, or when you're looking for a gym, right down to things that you are that are really important Now you're gonna want to see when you go to this fucking place and like I said if you got a stressed out life like most people do The last thing you're gonna want to do I promise you is go to a gentle care how close it is and how fucking convenient You just go to a fucking place you don't want to be in because it's noisy shitting fighting for machines You can't find dumbbells. You're not gonna go.

You're just not gonna go. And I'm telling you right, I promise you, and luckily for you, in the gym world, the difference between a $20 membership and a $40 membership is massive. It's another 20 bucks a month. That's nothing. And it's a big difference.

Literally, the difference between a $20 membership and a $100 membership, you're in a completely different category now of facility. So for me, it's got to be something that I want to be in. I think Adam was just highlighting a lot of different points of it. Yeah. Like for people like in their motivation, right? So if you, you're the type of person that would enjoy more of a spa setting and like come in and like do your own thing, have your own convenience, but you're not going to make a lot of noise you're not gonna lift a lot of heavy weights.

You know, that's gonna be a great environment for you versus somebody that's serious. And, you know, I'm gonna hammer this out, and I want people to be there to kind of motivate me because I see them lift a lot of weight and whatever, then that's your environment. And then there's the community people that I need everybody, always like, hey, Suzie, Hey, how glad to see you again.

You know, there's a gym for that. You know, and there's a gym like for me, like all I care about is like, can you watch my kids and you're not creepy? You know what I'm saying? Like there's, there's to be a gym for that. Just like if you got a squat rag, I swear I got it.

I'm a deadlift platform and you can be kind of weirdo watching my kids. Dude, good. Listen, I'll tell you, because I went to another gym that was in Santa Cruz. It was all about power and lifting heavy, and it had a great setup. It was like half kind of gold's looking,

but also had like squat racks and platforms. I was like, fuck yeah, it's awesome. And they had a kids club. Well, that kids club was fucking sketchy. And I did not feel comfortable with how they're managing it. They were not looking over my kit. Like, I was just like, dude, this is giving me a creepy vibe. I'm out of here. Did you guys can take this membership and shove it? And then I went to this other

one. It was like totally not like my environment for like getting a bad ass workout. Not at all. Well, this reminds me of something Sal said. That's my priority right now. You know, this is something that Sal said not, or I mean, quite a while ago. It's been a while since you've said this, and I think it's a good time to bring it up in January because we talk so heavily about our programming and how it's superior and this and that. But one thing that we all still stand by

is that an inferior program done consistently is still better than the best program ever done inconsistently. So if you get a gym membership and you never fucking go because of all the reasons that it keeps you out of there, then it's really worthless. You're far better off going to a place that may be inferior to another place because it keeps you going there. And that's where, and this kind of goes back to a question we asked recently when I kind of bagged on group training a little bit.

But you know what, if you're somebody who won't go to the gym unless you do have Susie Phil and Mike saying hi to you every Wednesday and Friday, then you should probably do that because let's be honest, getting your ass up off your desk and moving weight and moving your body is far better than the most elite programming, best maps program ever, the best gym setting that you never go to. So that's always important. And I think optimally we're all looking for the place

you love to go to consistently and following in an ideal program. I mean, that's the best of all worlds, but some people have to kind of work to. Well, here's something else I had a lot of success with this in the past with people, is I would explain to them that, because I think people get in the mentality

and you said it earlier that it's work, right? So I would say to them, you know, did you go to the gym on Monday? Like, well, I don't really feel like working out I'll super run down and I'd say, well, just go to the gym and just relax. Well, that's a waste of time. It's like, no, it's not.

It's all contributing to your health, whether it be your physical health, your mental health, your spiritual health, or the fact that you're doing something for yourself. So if you, like, again, look at your gym, and instead of looking at it like, this is a place I'm gonna beat myself up, look at it as, is this a place I wanna come in?

I wanna come show up to three days a week for an hour and just be in. And if the answer to that is yes, my God, you know, I could see myself just come in here three days a week just to be here. Just to hang out. And there's that's that's your gym. And even if it's more expensive, it's going to be a much better investment. When you're there, you'll get inspired. It just happens that way. So yeah, definitely an inviting environment that's going to gel the best with you. Exactly. Look, if you like Mind Pump, leave us a five-star rating review on iTunes. If we like your review and we pick it, you'll get a free Mind Pump t-shirt. You can also find

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