Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 441: How to Stop Overeating, Self-Assessing Own Physique, Male & Female Fasting Diffences & MORE

Episode Date: January 20, 2017

Kimera-Quah! In this episode of Quah, sponsored by Kimera Koffee (kimerakoffee.com, code "mindpump" for 10% off), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about the fasting differences between me...n and women, how to stop overeating, best advice they received in their teens that they didn't take and wish they did and what they think of their physique when they look into the mirror. Get our newest program, Kettlebells 4 Aesthetics (KB4A), which provides full expert workout programming to sculpt and shape your body using kettlebells. Only $7 at www.mindpumpmedia.com! Get MAPS Prime, MAPS Anywhere, MAPS Anabolic, MAPS Performance, MAPS Aesthetic, the Butt Builder Blueprint, the Sexy Athlete Mod AND KB4A (The MAPS Super Bundle) packaged together at a substantial DISCOUNT at www.mindpumpmedia.com. Make EVERY workout better with our newest program, MAPS Prime, the only pre-workout you need… it is now available at mindpumpmedia.com Have Sal, Adam & Justin personally train you via video instruction on our YouTube channel, Mind Pump TV. Be sure to Subscribe for updates. Please subscribe, rate and review this show! Each week our favorite reviewers are announced on the show and sent Mind Pump T-shirts! Have questions for Mind Pump? Each Monday on Instagram (@mindpumpradio) look for the QUAH post and input your question there. (Sal, Adam & Justin will answer as many questions as they can)

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Starting point is 00:00:00 If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. Mite, ob-mite, up with your hosts. Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. Listen, you're going to hear us talking a lot about some different topics here, but there's kind of a theme among the subjects that we're talking about. Kind of just naturally happen. We did not plan that to happen. Yeah, and just Q&A. And it's really about listening to your body,
Starting point is 00:00:28 listening to the signals it sends out. I mean, we talk about fast thing, we talk about overeating and awareness, things that you would have done in your teens and 20s and how you assess yourself in the mirror. But really it all goes back to paying attention to your body and listening to some of the signals that it sends you. Our super maps bundle is a system with it's programmed out for about a year, and within it there's different
Starting point is 00:00:54 phases, and you really get in tune with how your body responds to each of these phases, and these phases make up different maps programs. All of our most popular maps programs are included in the super map spundle. You have maps in a ballack, maps for formats, maps aesthetic, you have maps anywhere, you have prime, maps prime, that sets it all up. But within each of these, you will see how your body works. You will learn to read the signals that your body tells you.
Starting point is 00:01:19 You'll see how your body responds when you do a strength cycle, when you do mobility work, when you work on priming your body properly, when you're doing workouts without equipment, like you are with maps anywhere, what kind of differences it makes in the way your body looks and feels. Really, the super maps bundle at its core
Starting point is 00:01:39 is really learning how your body responds to different methods of training. Now, of course, at the end of this, your body looks much different, much better, moves better, you feel better, it's probably the most comprehensive system that we've ever seen in fitness. And this month, we're also including for free, the fasting and nutrition guide,
Starting point is 00:02:00 when you enroll with the SuperMap Spundle. Now, you can find all of this at mine pump media dot com Let's talk about about his prostate while he's not you know what? Don't see I don't want to I don't want to curse him. No God forbid no because if Adam you know Listen issues with the prostate needs to be massaged issues with the Museum milk. Yeah issues with the prostate are like, you know, like, I hate to say, like prostate cancer. It's actually many times quite curable, but then it could leave him impotent.
Starting point is 00:02:34 I see. You know what I mean? Like if they went and treated him. That's a depressing story. Then he couldn't get a bone or any more. Yeah. And, you know, fuck, I mean, Adam, as we know him, he is the walking bone.
Starting point is 00:02:44 Adam, as we know, would he is the walking boner. Adam, as we know him, would be, he would cease to exist. Right. You know what? Do you know what happened to Adam? If he couldn't, if he couldn't like have sex anymore, he would become so like philosophical.
Starting point is 00:02:57 Yeah, he'd be like, productive. Hey, man. Oh my God, maybe we should, guys. Yeah, you'd be like a super hippie. Hey guys, I wrote this like manifesto of how you should live your life. You'd be a better singer, let's be honest. Yeah, and then he goes, and I also invented this new
Starting point is 00:03:11 technology, and I just created this new guys. I'm out to heal the world. Yeah, I really want to heal. That's what would happen. Adam, don't you think that would happen? We're 100% that would happen. We're saying if you were unable to, all of a sudden you couldn't have sex. Yeah, you wrecked.
Starting point is 00:03:27 Like let's say you had a problem with your prostate for reals, like horrible shit, like God for bed, right? But if something did happen where you couldn't have sex anymore, I was just talking about how philosophical and how, like, what a, what a, what a, like amazing human being. Get this done. What did you just say? That's the, because I was talking about like your prostate. You'd be like, Deepak Chopra.
Starting point is 00:03:47 Because you go pee every five seconds. And I was like, how deep? I was like, what if he had some horrible happen, but then he couldn't have sex anymore. And I was talking about all the, like, why would you even say it so much? The benefits of mankind that would end up happening. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:03:59 I don't know. Why did we talk about it? I don't know. I just decided to do it. That's horrible. What else did you talk about? I'm gone, dude. That's about it, dude. There's a lot to speculate about. I don't know, I just decided to do it. That's horrible. What else did you talk about? I'm gone, dude. I mean, there's a lot to speculate.
Starting point is 00:04:07 I don't trust these motherfuckers. That's for sure. It's airing, by the way. Yes, it's all in there. It's all in there. We're also gonna air you. Whatever they said is not true. We're also gonna air the music that you made earlier.
Starting point is 00:04:18 Oh, we are. Oh, we should. We should add the intro for sure. It was pretty much magical. It was, it was magical. It was, but magic's not always good, you know what I mean? Yeah, it's like, it's gonna give me dark. Yeah, because I think, I think it magically
Starting point is 00:04:33 people's ears watching Harry Potter too much. It's like, gargamel. It magically hurt people's ears. Every time I hear magic, I know what I think of. You're the day. You went right here to the word magic. It's magically, it's a couple's ears. Every time I hear a magic, I know what I think of. You're the day. You went right here to the word magic. It's magic, Lee.
Starting point is 00:04:47 What is the childish, most childish thing that you guys still do right now? Childish? Yeah. What do you mean? What do you mean? I know you're jammy's. I don't know, possibly. You wear a onesie still.
Starting point is 00:04:57 Or watch Harry Potter on the weekends. You've seen it 15 times already. I know you got some. I totally get into SpongeBob. When I get stressed out, I have a pacifier. Exactly. Whoa. Do you remember when that was in style?
Starting point is 00:05:08 I remember how we were doing the whole baby diaper thing. Boys in the hood after boys in the hood, when we were, do you remember that? That was, there was actually a short window there where that people were buying pacifiers and they were. I thought that was because they were on drugs. I thought they had to do that because they were chewing their mouth.
Starting point is 00:05:23 No, that was from boys in the hood, boys in the hood that one character he had used to put the pacifier in the size of his mouth. I remember that. Yeah. And then after that, everybody did it. So don't let everybody, a lot of people did it for a while. Well, I know at raves and shit, people are dropping all kinds of Molly and then you'll see some people with like pacifiers in the mouth. Well, what, I mean, what's Freud, Freud has a theory on this, right? That we have this mouth fixation, right? That we want to chew and put things in our mouth isn't there isn't there some don't do you do you know much about Freud? Did you read much for it or not? I know you like to justify a way to like having sex with your mom? No, no, did you have you read that right? No, that's true
Starting point is 00:05:55 Right, that is true right there's there's something and it has something to do all the way back to when we were kids And we're are we used to freaking nurse on our mom whatever right so there's something about that and I about that. And you're a lot of people did that for a while. And I have a, I chew on like straws. I'm really, I have a bad habit of, if I drink something that has a straw afterwards, I pull the straw out and then I chew, I don't know if you guys have seen that already. I've been around you guys multiple times.
Starting point is 00:06:18 You always putting things in your mouth. Yeah. Just, all the time. Just, just, just, just a fuck out of here in yo Fixated all kinds of stuff. Yeah, did you guys live today? No, huh? Until afterwards. Well, no, I mean, I I'll pick up like I'll do some stuff with the Indian clubs in the mace Bell Just like sporadically all the time But I haven't got to my workout. Yeah, I usually workout like at the end
Starting point is 00:06:43 That's what I was gonna say. Yeah, So because I've had my kids for the whole week and everything and even today, I've been working out in here. It's been fun, man. I like working out in here a lot. Oh, I love it. The only thing that's suffering is my calves are shrinking at a rapid rate.
Starting point is 00:06:58 Oh, God, it's killing me. I actually went to Gold's yesterday just to do calves. Oh, you know what? So what? All we needed a calf routine, dude, because obviously you need machines. Like you need the seeded calf range. You don't, you're standing one. You don't want to deal.
Starting point is 00:07:13 And Sal tried to tell me this a day, like I don't know, right? He's like, hey, you could totally do standing calf raises by putting the barb and barb. I'm like, no shit, bro. I had no idea. I had no idea that that was the function for the cast. But it's just the convenience of how and the goals
Starting point is 00:07:30 that I have, the membership I have, I absolutely love because it's got multiple standing caps. It has a donkey calf machine. It's got multiple seated calf machines. It's got like the 45 degree kind of like a sled calf raise. I don't know what the name of that. You're probably the only person that goes to golds because of their calf squat.
Starting point is 00:07:48 I'm sure I'm sure I'm sure I'm the main reason why I have that membership there because it has the best calf machines in all the Bay Area. So I open up a calf specific gym. Yeah, and it's not the same. For me, I don't like having to modify using the barbell, standing on plates and doing it, or if I have to go over and sit down at a chair
Starting point is 00:08:08 and rest kettlebells or dumbbells on my thighs and do it, I like to get under the machine. I like that it's already... So it's the convenience? It is the convenience. So it's a hundred percent convenience. 100 percent, is there? I feel like...
Starting point is 00:08:19 Obviously I understand biomechanics, so I understand that. Well, you did show us some cool moves with the kettlebells you do for your calves. I know that. But I feel like if it's only convenience because you're already here, that it's just more convenient to do it here, then having to go separately to another gym, drive to a gym. What it is, it's like, and obviously, you just skip it all together, but I care still, right? So there's a funny though, I haven't, but my calves haven't shrunk nearly as much as yours. Yeah, it's not weird.
Starting point is 00:08:50 No, I just, I just, strange. It's weird. For sure, I have definitely have to put more work in for my physique to look the way it does. So that's, and my calves just disappear. Just calves though, I'm not talking about the whole physique. Oh man.
Starting point is 00:09:03 Yeah, because the rest of you looks awesome. It's just calves though. Yeah, they jump. I feel like we need to jump rope at them. Justin's been telling us forever. I have. Yeah, that would require a coordination and cardio for me, which those two are allergic to both of those. Yeah. So no, you're right. I mean jumping rope. Here's the deal. I'm fucking making excuses. Okay,, so we could see here all day and point them out. I'm just admitting what's, this is a struggle of mine that I'm having right now and I'm being real about it. So what is-
Starting point is 00:09:31 We can talk about all the different ways that we can use fucking the stuff. This isn't a calf intervention. Yeah, exactly. Like, fuck off, dude. Right, you know what I'm doing, I'm actually- Kind of leave this episode. But let me ask you this then, let's talk,
Starting point is 00:09:42 when you talk about this, it's important because we have people that are listening that struggle to do certain things with their training. What is it about, because I can tell you right now what it is about calf training that makes me fucking hate it, like what is it for you about calf training that makes you, you know, not want to do it? It's the amount of stimulation for the little bit of result that you actually get from it. If I were to hit my legs as frequent and I,
Starting point is 00:10:10 so when I'm competing, so calves get the most frequency out of anything that I train, anything, hands down, except for right now. But when I'm normally training, I'm training for a show, I'm getting on stage, calves are a three to five times a week part of my routine. If I gave any other muscle that kind of attention, I would look, it would look abnormally big.
Starting point is 00:10:31 Like my legs would grow crazy to that level, my chest, my arms, anything else. So it's the amount of work I have to put in for the least amount of results on a very, very small muscle. That's the annoying part about it. Yeah, for me. And the mother fuckers with big calves,
Starting point is 00:10:45 let's be honest, that son of a bitch never lifts. The guys with the biggest calves never work them out. Never, never. The guy with the best calf. I bet Justin hasn't done a calf raise, like a legit calf raise in a... It's like 1996. Yeah, never.
Starting point is 00:10:57 Yeah, never done that. Which is also what always annoys me when people guys talk shit about that. It's like, fuck you, bro. Yeah. Literally, you would genetically got calves, which gives you fucking cart belong to talk shit to everybody who doesn't I've put more work in my calves last year you probably did in your whole entire life motherfucker.
Starting point is 00:11:12 It's also for me. It's also the non functionality of like I can push a sled. I can you know jump rope do all these different things. My calves aren't going to grow as much as when I lift weights for them, but function functionally speaking they're fine. You know what I'm saying? It's not like I know to, like if I stop deadlifting or I stop squatting, I can tell, like functionally speaking. That's a great point. I can't let you tell when I get to.
Starting point is 00:11:31 That's a very good point too, because they, well, it's like your forearms, right? You know, if you are, if you're deadlifting good way, you're growing good way, you're overhead pressing good way, your forearms are going to naturally develop and grow as you increase weights and strengthen all those other big compound movements. The calves I wish for me, and I will say this, I will say this, my calves have kept at this size, which is better than what they were when they were worse, like two years ago, from deeper squatting. Since I do deeper squats and I can squat heavier weight, I do notice my calves have got a little extra size than from before. So there is somewhat of a carryover from that for me, but not as much as I would like. I wish that they would grow in proportion
Starting point is 00:12:23 to my legs. Like my legs are like so big in comparison to my calves. It drives me fucking crazy. Yeah, I gotta be honest though, because I haven't put like super emphasis on my calves, but over the decades I've been in a position where I'm on the balls of my feet, and I'm training, you know, I especially as a football sprinting and, you know, I'm doing everything like I was so
Starting point is 00:12:47 anterior chain dominant that like for me, it took me a long time to even get, you know, the posterior connection I have now. So, you know, as far as calf development goes, that was like, you know, I definitely felt my calves active in most all movements I was a part of. So, you know, like for me, the struggle was getting my heels to stay flat and then, you know, pulling weight off the ground. Like that's tough for me. Like squatting and...
Starting point is 00:13:14 Oh, I see what you're saying. Yeah, I think that's so... I think that's so... Quad dominant, too. I would compensate. Because you're always on your toes. Yeah. Which makes sense for like your football soccer putt.
Starting point is 00:13:22 But here's the thing though, I was a soccer and a basketball player my entire life and I still have no Yeah, you wanted size. I mean the function of Yeah, you just wanted size you're right You're right. Actually, this is and this is where the genetic component really comes in like if you were to compare the strength of my cows and like The definition and how strong they are like they're strong for sure stronger than most But they definitely don't the size doesn't reflect what they're what they're capable. And that's just genetics You know, that's just what it is And I think part of it is learning to accept that right that and that's kind of this transition like I was joking about it with
Starting point is 00:13:54 Juji when he was here and he's like bro just just own it Just own it you don't got hat calves you do you weren't genetically blessed with it? You know since in like hammering away at him for this little bit It's like, oh man, but it kills me though, dude. I like to wear shorts, man. I'm gonna do the calf implants. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:14:11 You know what I started doing a lot is a short foot, that exercise short foot that we learned. We're great. All right, right, right. Yeah. That's so fucking weird, dude. It is weird. It's hard to do.
Starting point is 00:14:22 Forever, I'm looking at my foot. I'm like, it's not doing anything. But now I'm starting to be able to get it to be able to do what I wanted to. And it's interesting. It is. So that's a great technique. So you want to add some tips to when you do calf raises. Yeah, explain what that is.
Starting point is 00:14:37 Yeah, that's kind of hot. Yeah, short foot is literally your foot is on the floor flat. And then you literally shrink your foot by squeezing the muscles of the solar foot. Okay. So how I explain that to a client is pretend like you have a marble on the floor and you're trying to pick it up with the center of your foot. So the like the right where the arch is at if your foot pretend like you're trying to pick a marble.
Starting point is 00:14:58 Now you're not going to be able to do that. But think about that. That's what you're trying to do is you're trying to grip the marble and pick the marble up with the center. Yeah. You know how disconnected we are to it that I literally for like two days I would sit think about that, that's what you're trying to do, is you're trying to grip the marble and pick the marble up with this. With the center. Yeah, with the center. And you know how disconnected we are to it, that I literally, for like two days,
Starting point is 00:15:09 I would sit there and be like, I'm not doing anything. Yeah, I didn't feel anything. And now I can kind of do a little bit, you know what I mean? But still not nothing. The crazy part is technically we should be able to do all this stuff with our feet. Obviously, because of shoes and what we've done, and we can't, you know, in a good example,
Starting point is 00:15:23 is that did you guys see that video that girl who shoots the bone arrow with her feet? I've seen that before. Oh my God. That is impressive. Yeah. Imagine what else you can do with those feet.
Starting point is 00:15:32 I remember when I shared the story about the stripper. The foot job that you got. Back in the old Mind Pump days. Oh my God. I was thinking sharing that story. I can't believe you actually did that. My poor girl, man. I put her through the gauntlet at the very beginning I love you honey for putting up with me staying around this long
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Starting point is 00:16:28 First up, Elena Janelle, fasting differences between men and women. Very, very, very good question. There are differences between men and women when it comes to nutrition to a small extent. Now, when I, there's, there's, are you saying that because certain foods affect hormones?
Starting point is 00:16:48 Not only certain foods, but the way we react to periods of fasting or periods of restriction, because a woman's body will, so what happens, for example, when men, men can handle fasting, generally, there's always individual variances,, when men can handle fasting, generally, there's always individual variances, but men typically can handle fasting for longer periods of time without major hormonal changes or changes to their body.
Starting point is 00:17:14 A woman can fast and find herself having changes in menstruation and hormonal changes, and we're not quite sure why this is, and there are hormonal differences in response to these things. We're not quite sure why that is. One theory is that men were predominantly hunters during most of human civilization, and we probably had to adapt to longer periods of time without food, whereas women were gatherers and they maybe had access to nuts, berries, roots, whatever, on a more regular basis. Of course, women also bear children.
Starting point is 00:17:53 And the female body, if it senses lack of nutrition or lack of food, it will try to prevent the woman from getting pregnant. And so you'll notice changes in menstruation. Some women will get extreme with it. I've had some friends of mine who tried the long fast route or too many fasts and will start to lose hair and get all these symptoms of starvation in which case I tell them to not fast nearly as frequency or nearly as long. This is one of those like listen to your body.
Starting point is 00:18:25 Yeah, I want to make something clear right here because I forgot that, you know, some of these topics we visited like a long time ago and some people haven't heard us talk in depth about fasting. We have a fasting guide where all huge fans of fasting, that being said, when I'm coaching a client, one of the things that this is one of the last things that I teach them.
Starting point is 00:18:47 So when you're with me, you have a minimum of 90 days that you have to be with me, right? And during that 90 day process, it's not till the end of it, do I actually start to teach you how to incorporate fasting? And that's because there's other things that are very important. And one of those is establishing, if you have any sort of health issues already
Starting point is 00:19:08 that could conflict with you fasting right out the gate. So if you have hormonal issues already, you have thyroid condition, you have metabolism, like if you have a metabolic damage, like if you've got things already going with you, then fasting to me, we're not ready for that yet. We need to get a balanced diet out and understanding how different foods affect your body and kind of get normalcy first.
Starting point is 00:19:30 And then I teach you how to incorporate fasting for health benefits, not for losing weight. To nourish your body. Yeah, trying to teach your body how to get to that point where you're supplying the proper amount of nutrients and getting the right minerals, micronutrients, all these things and have it learn on a deeper level like what that feels like.
Starting point is 00:19:52 Yeah, I mean, you wanna consider even getting lean when it comes to men and women. When a woman, if a woman gets really, really, really lean, she'll notice some negative effects on her body. Again, she'll stop having her period. She gets these symptoms of starvation, fine hair on her entire body. You know, metabolism can get affected in a very, very negative way, whereas men have a higher resilience when it comes to this.
Starting point is 00:20:20 I mean, men can get very, very lean and not necessarily have some of these negative effects. Stress, stress on a woman can cause, you know, can cause them to stop menstruating. Too much exercise, even if she has enough body fat can cause, you know, her to stop menstruating. A ketogenic diet can do the same thing. So I think women's bodies are a little bit more sensitive to You know changes in nutrition and stress because again you evolve you know, they evolve to bear children And so that's kind of the that's like the one of the predominant things when it comes to women's hormones is Is this an environment where it's gonna be okay for this woman to bear child or is this an environment where we need to be a Little bit more careful and your body starts to kind of adjust what's happening.
Starting point is 00:21:08 So you've got to listen to your body and the individual variances can be massive. I mean, there's women that can fast very long have no effects on no negative effects on the hormones that one on. Then there can be people who women who fast very negative effects and there can be men that have very negative effects to prolong fasting. very negative effects and there can be men that have very negative effects to prolonged fasting. It's very individual. You need to listen to your body and if you're a woman and you stop having your period, there's something you need something that's going wrong. You should be able to have regular men's this especially if you're in that you know the child there. I want to say again to that because and I say this because I feel like we've talked about it before and yet we still have people on our form who who are people that are on our forum, or some of our biggest
Starting point is 00:21:48 diehard, consistent fans when it comes to going through all of our material and podcasts that we've released. And they still are, a lot of people still connect the fasting thing to a weight loss. A lot of people are incorporating fasting because we talk about all the health benefits behind it, but yet still when they incorporate it, they're looking for the scale to be going down for them. So that is not what we're looking for from that. Is that a byproduct? Yes, most of the time it is, but it is not necessarily what you're looking for from the fast. You want to take that that mentality out because that's a bad connection that you are starting to do. You do not want to connect with your weight loss goal
Starting point is 00:22:27 with fasting as the method that got you there. The idea is to have a very good balance and understanding of food and nutrition and exercise, connecting those dots, and then learning how to incorporate fasting because of all the health benefits that come along with it. Not learning how to sustain from food, starve your body, or incorporate fasting
Starting point is 00:22:46 as a fast way to lose weight. You're setting yourself up to put the weight back on over and over. Yeah, and one more thing, you know, in the past, we've referred to fasting as a stress on the body. And some of the world-leading researchers now are saying it's not really a stress,
Starting point is 00:23:01 although it does induce things that resemble a stress response. It's more of an alternate kind of program that your body goes on, but that being said, a stressed body may respond or may have a lower debility to respond well to fasting. So if you're losing sleep, if you're very super stressed out of work and things are going horrible for you fasting, you're more likely, if you're super stressed out of work and things are going horrible
Starting point is 00:23:25 for you fasting, you're more likely to get some of the negatives that may happen from fasting. So there's lots of things to consider. But when Adam's talking about the weight loss being the goal, look, here's the thing. If fasting, if you're just connecting it to weight loss, I'll tell you right now where that ends up. That road, yeah, that road turns into a severe restriction of food and can potentially lead to, you know, things like anorexia, which is a, again, another horrible relationship to
Starting point is 00:23:55 food. I look at it more like you're teaching your body how to manage its other operating system and which is something that like cells kind of met you they're finding out it's it's crucial that we Operate on both now. How do we operate on both? I have to teach my body like very slowly very gradually To understand what that looks like in a healthy way and so I want to introduce it with You know the least resistance as possible so whatever that looks like in your schedule or something that's more attainable for you, but you have to understand the different approaches
Starting point is 00:24:31 that exist that have kind of built in a protocol for this. And that's why the fasting guy, he highlights a lot of this. And I do feel like you get better at fasting as you ramp up and understand how to use it. Absolutely. I know, I mean, look, think about it this way. If, when's the last time, you, as a listener, when's the last time you went 24 or 48 hours without food?
Starting point is 00:24:51 Probably can't remember the last time you did that, right? Nobody, nobody's gone that long without, for the most part, but in the modern world, you've always got food with you. Well, 24 to 48 hour fast is considered a relatively normal fast by research standards. So if you're going to go from never fasting to all of a sudden I'm doing this long fast, it's probably not a good idea.
Starting point is 00:25:10 I would start with like a skip a meal. Just skip a meal. Yeah, just skip a meal, see how you feel, and then do that once and then don't do it for another five or six days. Don't jump into it and go. Like I said, I've had people literally be like, oh, I did, you know, I'm doing a 24 or fast every single day. And I'm, I'm doing a 24-hour fast every single day. And I'm noticing I'm starting to lose some hair.
Starting point is 00:25:28 And I notice my period of stop. Like, what does this mean? I'm like, what are you doing? Like stop. A lot of people stop because their body is, you know, they're cloudy and they have like a headache. And you know, there's these things that you may experience if you're so oversaturated all the time to then all of a sudden
Starting point is 00:25:45 Shocked the body and go into not not a eating situation at all You know your body's gonna be super hungry and it's gonna freak out. I'm gonna get a headache And I'm gonna you know It's gonna be hard for me to think clearly But you know, that's why we say gradual approach because you know You're gonna still probably feel some of those symptoms But it's gonna be less than it would if it was like a super shocked in awe of the body.
Starting point is 00:26:09 DeliYV, how to stop overeating. So this was a little bit longer, I read it earlier, and they were talking about how they'll sit down at a meal and just eat until they're stuffed. Like they just can't breathe anymore, whatever. And I know we're all, we've all experienced that before. This is literally eating without awareness. That's all it is.
Starting point is 00:26:33 Because if you ate until you were satisfied, you would never reach this point. Do you believe that or do you believe some people are fully aware and they still do it anyways? No, I think they're not fully aware. I think if you're fully aware, then you're done. There's no reason why am I continuing eating past that point? Think about how painful it is.
Starting point is 00:26:48 We've all done it. It's a painful situation. It's, it's, it hurt your stomach hurts. You feel real full. My God, I don't think I can fit anymore. Oh, more foods coming out. You're not, you're, you're not aware to the point where you can save yourself.
Starting point is 00:27:01 Like I'm satisfied. I don't need me unless you're eating really fast too. You'd think that you'd be able to get more in and like later you just, oh, you feel this, like just immediate pain because of everything. That's exactly it. Think about it. We're technically talking about binging, right?
Starting point is 00:27:15 I mean, this is what binging is. Over, over, you know, the way that they classify binging might be a little bit different, but in the similar, in the similar. Because you could overeat slow, you know, so you wouldn't necessarily be binging much more rare though. But yeah, much more rare. It is much more difficult.
Starting point is 00:27:30 I just don't know. I don't know. I just don't know if I like saying that it's, that they're all not aware. I think some people even doing it being aware of it. I think you do know the ramifications. You do know, but you don't give a fuck. I think you, you have that out have that as a type of unawareness that is a hundred percent type of
Starting point is 00:27:48 Not being aware of what you're doing because I just don't give a fuck I'm just gonna go ahead and feel shitty afterwards and then you feel shitty afterwards and then what always follows up with that Why did I do that? I shouldn't have done that. I don't feel good my stomach hurts Now I'm gonna eat you know super healthy for the next couple days or whatever. I'm gonna try and make up for it. Okay, well then how would you classify this? Okay, so one of the, it wasn't this last one, but because the last one actually we were really dialed in.
Starting point is 00:28:13 The time before last, when we all went and created a program, we decided that we were going to order pizza. And we knew going into it that we were gonna feel like shit afterwards, but yet we still ate, and I probably ate more slices of pizza than I should have. What would you classify that? Because I do think we were not aware. Yeah, I think there's a 100%.
Starting point is 00:28:34 I think what you're doing is you're looking at awareness as two things, like completely fully aware and not aware at all. There is a spectrum of awareness. And yes, there was a level of not being aware, allowing yourself to go that distance with that food and eat those things because you felt shitty afterwards. You even said right now,
Starting point is 00:28:57 you ate more than you probably should have. If the true awareness is why you're eating it or when you're not eating it, is to say, is to make those decisions why you're eating it or not when you're not eating it is to say is to make those decisions as you're doing it. It's no different than anything else would you look. Wow, I think. The speed of which you eat reflects, will reflect that unawareness. When you eat pizza or you eat cake, is it a slow, methodical or is it tend to be boom,
Starting point is 00:29:23 boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom I'm gonna eat this food right now. I think the deciding factor is like this person is asking how to stop overeating. So for me that speaks more to like I don't understand you know the signs and signals and you know what's going on that led me to this point. Well yeah yeah, yeah, even though I don't wanna distract from this where we're going right now with Sal, because I know how I wanna answer this person, because I have tips for that person that's helped other people.
Starting point is 00:29:52 So I'm gonna help that person, but I wanna get to the bottom where Sal's going right now, because I don't know if it's a awareness thing. I don't know if it's, I mean, I think it can be, so I'm not disagreeing like that, but I don't think it's necessarily always have to be that either because I don't think, I don't think Justin myself for you were unaware at any moment when we were eating that pizza
Starting point is 00:30:14 that we were probably gonna feel like shit after the fact. I think there was a part of it that said, you know what, I wanna have this pizza. You're knowing that I'll probably get, have to take two in the morning shits, which I hate to have to do. And then my butt burns from the pepperoni and the red peppers.
Starting point is 00:30:29 That's what I'm saying. But then you go versus like, we do that so infrequently versus frequently. Somebody that's like constantly has those sort of mental battles. Like, I know how this is gonna make me feel, but then they do it like pattern after pattern after pattern. You have to understand too. Being unaware literally means you're unaware.
Starting point is 00:30:47 Even now, you're defending it and bringing it up and feeling a personal, almost like, oh wait, let me use my own personal example. And no, I'm not like that person. Awareness comes from ego or unawareness comes from your ego. And feeling like, no, I'm different. That's not how it operates. It's literally your ego saying to me and whatever. Well, I disagree again because I don't, I think that, I'm different, that's not how it operates, is literally your ego saying to me and whatever.
Starting point is 00:31:06 Well, I disagree again, because I don't, I think that what I'm saying right now is that it's, I'm not defending it, I'm just trying to get to the bottom of being called fully awareness or not awareness or the spectrum awareness. I think every bit of what we did, we knew what we were going to get. I don't think there was ever one part of me that was like unaware of what was
Starting point is 00:31:26 going on. I was like, I'm eating this pizza and I'm going like, this is really good. And then I get to slice number four and I go, this is normally where the breaking point is. And I continue to eat and I don't think like, I don't know what's going to happen right here. I have that fifth piece. I know that fifth piece.
Starting point is 00:31:42 I don't know that. There's no way. You did not do that while you're eating every piece. You were eating? No, you were eating the pizza. We were conversing about business. We're talking about what we're doing. That food was not your focus.
Starting point is 00:31:52 That food was going in your mouth. Why were we talking about what we're doing? I agree, but I'm aware enough to know that when I go, that's how I knew the number, bro. I can have four pieces of pizza, especially if it's a place that's not super oily and greasy and fucking gnarly, and I can be fine. The moment I hit slice number five, I know I'm in trouble the next day, so I know that. I know that. I'm aware of that. But yet sometimes I still decide I'm gonna have five or six slices because I say, you know what? It's worth the asshole burning. It's been like two months since I've had that happen to me and this Peter in the hole. This pizza tastes so good. So I all I'm saying, I'm not justifying. I'm not saying that you're right or wrong.
Starting point is 00:32:31 I'm just saying I don't know if I would say that people are completely unaware. I think there are lots of people that are unaware. I think some people might just are mindless when they eat and they don't pay attention, But I think a lot of that is because they're blocking that out. They don't want to connect the dots yet. They don't want to make that connection yet. I've made that connection. I know sure a shit, I do five slices of pizza or more, I'm gonna pay for it. Yeah, I know that.
Starting point is 00:32:56 There's still, there's definitely a process. Of course, there's definitely a step by step process and you're going along that process. It doesn't mean you're gonna make a decision one way or the other, but it is a level look. When we're talking about awareness, anything you do that's gonna hurt you, anything you're gonna do that's not gonna benefit you,
Starting point is 00:33:14 anything that's gonna hurt your body, your mind, your spirit, whatever is typically an unawareness, whether it be a drug, whether it be something you do in a relationship, whether all those different things. And all I'm saying is overeating is a level of unawareness because you're eating beyond the point of satisfaction. You're eating beyond the point of enjoyment. You're eating to a point of unenjoyment, of pain,
Starting point is 00:33:40 overeating. What is, think about the word overeating. What is that? What is that, what is that define? Some of the things that can be connected, overeating. What is, think about the word overeating. What is that? What is that, what is that, how is that defined? Some of the things that can be connected to overeating is this. You ever notice when you have a high glycemic carbohydrate
Starting point is 00:33:55 on how you want to, you want to eat more afterwards. If you go technically, you're probably, if you have, okay, which almost every restaurant uses this strategy, they send you out, I think a chips and salsa first or a basket of bread. And what happens? You eat those four slices and while you're eating,
Starting point is 00:34:11 you're like, oh, I don't want to eat too much because I don't want to get full for dinner but sure as shit, by the time dinner comes around, you still consume that and you eat it. And part of that is actual from a chemical reaction that happens in your body. It's not just unawareness. There is a part of that that actually,
Starting point is 00:34:24 you're getting, you're spiking blood, you're spiking, and so when you're spiking appetite, the sugar will create you to carve more. No, we're not. No, no, does, but what you do with it is your awareness or unawareness. How you act on it is your unawareness and awareness. I disagree, dude. It does.
Starting point is 00:34:50 It's literally your mean aware or not aware, it just means that you made that choice. I think you, some people are, I'm not saying that, I'm not saying it, but you can't classify everybody as being unaware because they ate bread and then they had dinner. No, but what I am classifying is to what you do with it is a level of unawareness. Most of us have some parts of that.
Starting point is 00:35:09 Over eating is a piece of that. That's all I'm saying. So if someone's saying, how to stop over eating again, because I think most people are what exactly what you're saying. I think most people are actually unaware. You're right, but not everybody. That's all I'm trying to get you to understand
Starting point is 00:35:22 is that I disagree that you can say that just because you over consume That you're completely unaware of it. I didn't say completely But if Doug start to wear like a referee or or partially Partially that time Adam Sal Your but no, somebody needs to tell this guy this because I know like he speaks and I thought already all the time and you know like you can't just say I think I think come out and say that I think for 100% and you're like you can't just say I think I can't just come out and say that I think for 100%
Starting point is 00:35:45 If you're overeating if you're overeating there's an element of unawareness there 100% I disagree that's that that's what that's okay You can disagree especially the question says how to stop over you can also move on. Yeah, I've got how to stop over No, I have some things to help this and I guarantee I guarantee you every piece of advice you're gonna give them has to do with becoming more aware of What they're doing well of course that course, that doesn't make the point your point more. Of course, of course, of course, being more aware is obviously going to help the situation. If the more aware we are with anything, the better off we are heading into it. So what advice would you give the great counterpoint? Something that has helped me has helped clients is, and this is a very simple thing, right,
Starting point is 00:36:27 is targeting my fats first. So I go after, I teach my clients to eat healthy fats first, which in turn helps satiate you, and it doesn't spike up that appetite. And that's why I said that such an important thing is that something chemically does happen that makes you crave food. Then what you do with that is your self-awareness. But if you can help the craving from not happening, you're already winning half the battle. So by staying away from these high glycemic carbs, or if not having them frequently in your diet, especially when you know
Starting point is 00:37:01 you're not going to go use them like in a workout or something, I would avoid that. So a simple thing to do is, hey, understand what high glycemic low glycemic carbs are. Very easy. You can Google that and get a whole fucking list and put it on your refrigerator. Once you understand that, keep your high glycemic foods around your intense workouts or activity. And then the rest of the time, avoid those high glycemic foods, eat foods that are good, rich, and good, healthy fats
Starting point is 00:37:26 that will help satiate you, and that will help, that will help with the overeating. The other thing is awareness, because awareness is important and is a factor here. You do realize that going to consciously choose to eat a higher fat food first is literally a piece of being a more aware of what's happening. Of course, of course, That's why I was like,
Starting point is 00:37:45 that wasn't like you winning your battle, like you saying that, you just redirected. You redirected your original argument of, is it awareness or not, too? Am I gonna give tips or whatever? Of course, I'm gonna give you tips or whatever. I'm just gonna give you a quick record. I think, look, if you're going to,
Starting point is 00:37:58 if you're that kind of person that's gonna overeat and you're gonna sit at something at a plate and continue to eat and it's painful, you have to stop, you have to pause the cycle, you have to stop what you're gonna sit at something at a plate and continue to eat and it's painful. You have to stop, you have to pause the cycle, you have to stop what you're doing, you have to think about what's happening, look at the food you're eating and literally talk to yourself about what's happening.
Starting point is 00:38:14 That is going to help stop the cycle because an overeating cycle typically starts or overeating is something that just, it's like a chain reaction like I'm EE EE and then it just continues to go on past the point of satisfaction ask yourself these questions am I satisfied do I feel like I don't do I really need more do I hurt why am I eating anymore slow you're chewing down slowing down the the rate of your eating also helps you become more aware of what's going on and what you put him out. This is this, look, when people eat this way, when they binge this way, when I have clients
Starting point is 00:38:52 like this, I ask them that question, well, why did you continue? After the first bite, why did you continue eating this way? Why did you not stop? And the answer usually is, well, I just, I don't know. It was good, I guess. I don't know. I'm not sure why I continued. Why did you eat past the point of satiety? I don't know. It was good, I guess, I don't know. I'm not sure why I continued. Why did you eat past the point of satiety? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:39:08 And that's literally what I'm talking about. So I would say, pay attention to what's happening. Slow yourself down. Choose slower. Yes, make different choices before you eat, but it's all under that umbrella of, you need to know what's going on and you need to become more conscious of what's going on
Starting point is 00:39:23 and not let it become this automatic This is also this is also how we create the nutrition guide was, you know And some people feel it's like basic because of what we put out there But that's just it is most people haven't learned to master the basics You know most people want this oh prescriptive diet of follow this and you're gonna lose weight or build muscle and we were so Adam it not to do that because we're like listen Most motherfuckers out there don't even understand Approaching carb fat or understand how to eat with color and why all these foods are so essential to the body systems
Starting point is 00:39:55 That was so important to us to give that message and so you know Perfect that get to the point where you really really understand all these different foods and it may seem daunting right now, but you just approach it with small steps. I mean, that's how we coach somebody. We give them one simple thing that we talk about and we get good at it. We understand that, okay, this is what this, what's doing, what this is what's good for your body when you eat this way. So, and then if you want that last piece of pizza, you have to yell to top your lungs. I'm eating pizza! And I'm aware you can be, I'm aware it's going to my mouth! It's in my body!
Starting point is 00:40:32 All right. With that said, K-Mautos 1, best advice that you got in your teens and 20s that you didn't take, but wish you did. Mm. I'm trying to boring, come out. I'll go with one. I'll go with one right away that comes to mind
Starting point is 00:40:49 when I was younger. I think everybody's been told this when they were younger, and I wish I started earlier. I didn't get really into reading subjects that I wanted to learn more about until my mid 20s. So I feel like I got a late start, and I know how much it grew me from 25 to now 35.
Starting point is 00:41:10 I wish I would have done that and started that as a teen. I wish I would have created those habits that I would just pick up one book a month and read on topics that I wanna learn already about, which I think that's where I made the mistake when I got that advice when I was a kid I think someone just said you need to read more or read more and they tell you that and you think because I hate reading novels And that's kind of how I connected it was oh, I need to read these these novels that are popular there
Starting point is 00:41:35 When I was talking about I'm like this is boring. I fall asleep halfway through them. It wasn't my thing So then I just was like math about it and it wasn't until I got into working So then I just was like, man, about it. And it wasn't until I got into working, making good money, got my house, and then I started thinking like, okay, investing, and business, and entrepreneurship, and leadership, was in a role where I was managing. So now all these topics, I became really important to me,
Starting point is 00:41:57 and then I began reading more and more and more. I wish I would have started that early on when I was younger, when the first person told me that that's just one that comes to mind right away. Yeah, I think for me, you know, thinking back, I kind of drew a blank at first, but now that I'm thinking about it, you know, I, I, people told me to get out of my comfort zone
Starting point is 00:42:18 a little bit more, or to travel a little bit more, and I didn't do any of that at all. One of the main reasons is I just have a horrible, horrible, horrible, sense of direction. So I never really went anywhere outside of the places I knew because I was afraid of getting lost. Now, as a much older adult, I know that that's not really that big of a deal and I'm not going to die.
Starting point is 00:42:40 But man, I passed up so many opportunities. I had an opportunity to go run a club in Hong Kong and had opportunities to go work in other countries in different states. And I wish I could go back in time and take advantages some of those things. There's just, look, in your teens and 20s, there's certain things that you can do that later on
Starting point is 00:42:57 become much more difficult because of career and maybe a family. Family kids, right? Yeah, and at those ages, a lot of times you have nothing to lose. You know what I mean? You could take all the time in the world and do all these different things. And it feels like you're in this rush to get your degree or get this job or do these different things.
Starting point is 00:43:15 But, you know, I had friends that would go backpacking through Europe and I would always like, no, I got to work. I got to stay focused on this one thing. And, you know, they'd be gone for two weeks, like it's two weeks. Yeah. I would have gotten so much more of that had I gone with them. Yeah, I feel it's the same for me. It's more just like the risks and the risk taking back then.
Starting point is 00:43:33 There was a lot of times where people are like, put your money here and invest in this or like, you know, you like, like, because I love films and one day I wanna write like a film or whatever. And it's like, why didn't I pursue that? Well, I had nothing but time on my hands. Like learn more about it, take the classes and pursue the things that really interested me the most
Starting point is 00:43:56 and then get to a place where earlier, like that would have been a lot more feasible. But like, even then, I still wouldn't change it because I definitely like where I'm at and we're ended up. And all these things had to take place for me to get to where I am. But I mean, that's all just, well, I think hindsight. But, you know, like I definitely,
Starting point is 00:44:15 that was like something that I'm like, wow, or music, you know, if I would have just like really poured myself more into that, I would have definitely, you know, benefited from it. So I think obviously all of us would say that, right? That I wouldn't change how things played out because they all played out for a reason the way it did. But I tell you what, another one is, I think a lot of people, when I was younger, and
Starting point is 00:44:38 I can remember parents and uncles and aunts and stuff like that, giving lectures to me, as far as the people that you choose to hang out with. And I think we've all heard this a ton of times, but I don't think it really resonated with me until I was in my late 20s, almost 30. That's a big one. On how important it was for me to start to eliminate
Starting point is 00:45:00 people in my life that were just blood suckers. And people, and to stay close to those that were going to help me grow and push me to new levels and new heights. Not just financially or business or work related, but even just in personal growth and just positivity and just that way of thinking. That's a tough one. That's tough. Oh yeah. Well, you know, yeah. So, and I can remember, man, some hard breakups
Starting point is 00:45:28 that I had with other good men in my life that were good guys, good this, and good relationships as friends for a long time. But what they really, when I really, as an outsider looking in, or now hindsight looking back, when I look at what they represented, I mean, it was like my party buddy, right? My buddy who, you know, got fucked up with me and went to Vegas and we, you know,
Starting point is 00:45:49 gamble. And it's like, I mean, I love doing that stuff during that time. And like we said, we probably wouldn't change that. But then I think about it like, you know, wow, that really wasn't taking me any further in life by doing that all the time. And then when I really dissect that person's relationship with me, that's a majority of what it representative. And if I really think about it, it's also the friend that was kind of hating on me when I was doing success, doing great in life.
Starting point is 00:46:14 And like, you know what, like, wow, I don't know if I really want this person. You know, you don't put that together until you get older. And I wish I would have started eliminating people in my life at a sooner point. I think I'd be further along. Yeah, I think too, you know, feeling like I had to fit within a particular Expectations, you know, I'm like my family wants me to be this way. Yeah, and this is what I have to do
Starting point is 00:46:37 And these are the and not really knowing that it's my life and I can do whatever I want with it and just express myself The way I want and do you know, follow my dreams the way I want. I think when you talk to people in their thirties and forties and you ask them to define their twenties, I think a lot of them will say that right? They'll say, gosh, I feel so much more independent and free now. Like I can just be who I am. And I felt like in my teens and twenties, I had to be this other person. I think it's all part of the growing up experience. So, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:47:07 It's like you're just, you're not gonna take all the wisdom that's thrown at you because you're still developing and finding out about your own process and who you are. So it's all self-discovery. Well, you want, I mean, think about this. Could you imagine if you had mind pump when you were 17, 18 years old?
Starting point is 00:47:26 Listen to? Yeah. Not to like, not to stroke us off or pat us on the back or anything like that, but really though, like somebody who, somebody who, somebody who, who I respected in the similar field that I'm in. So I'm talking really to like other trainers
Starting point is 00:47:41 or their young entrepreneurs, whatever, that I respected their opinion that were giving me advice like this. I don't know. And I think I, I think I actually, I probably would like, I, for example, we just had our young buddy Danny in here the other day, what's Danny? 20 years old. Listen the way that kid talks, the way he carries us out the way he thinks about his, even though his relationship, he just went through a breakup, even the way he reflects on that relationship that he had with that girl is as hard breaking as it was, the connections that he made with his own personal growth. I mean, fuck, a 20?
Starting point is 00:48:10 Come on. I mean, that's not a lot of 20 year mature. Fuck yeah, dude, are you kidding me? And then his, his, just his, the way he's pursuing his passion, the way he conduct, I mean, obviously he's a big fan of the show and a buddy of ours, but man, I don't know, I wish, I wish I had something like this. I mean, I had mentors and people I felt direct to me when I was a little bit younger, but not like this, right?
Starting point is 00:48:33 Be constantly being, you can get fed information, you know? Machidog. When you look in the mirror to assess your physique, where is the first thing that comes to mind? How did God create such a specimen? Every day. Why do I think that really goes down like that? I feel like you get out of the shower and you're... Just ask me why.
Starting point is 00:48:55 That's right. You rub your chest and then you say that in front of the mirror. I'll show you. I'll put it together. Is that all the question was, like, will you look at yourself in the mirror? What comes to mind? Yeah, what comes to mind? Wow. Okay, if we're being completely honest with
Starting point is 00:49:09 ourselves, I think this is something that you're you're always trying to improve on is to not look at all your flaws, which I would be lying to say that I do I look in the mirror and I don't do that. I think that would be completely lying to say that I look in the mirror and I don't do that. I think that would be completely lying to say that. I look in the mirror and I go like, oh, I'm so happy with exactly the way I look in them. Life is pertinous. I look at myself and I go like, fuck, I'm slipping. You know, I look, oh, shit.
Starting point is 00:49:36 You know, that skipped workout and the two burgers I had over the weekend, like I can see it. You know, like I do that. I assess, I assess it and I use it as accountability to what I've been doing the previous week. And I know that this is not the connection I want to make. I want to, and it's a process for me. I feel like I over time, and like I was just telling Katrina this other day, that I feel the best I've ever felt. And why that makes me happy is I couldn't be further
Starting point is 00:50:11 away from my stage physique as far as the way I looked. So I have become more comfortable with the way I look when I have a nice balance in my life where I get to go enjoy birthday parties here and there, but I'm also mindful of what I'm doing. I don't have to hammer myself in the gym seven days a week, one hour plus at a time, and I get to maintain a strong function. I'm very functional right now. I've been looking at that more instead of looking at my aesthetic mirror reflection. I'm looking at it. But it's still a motivating thing for you.
Starting point is 00:50:44 Exactly. I'd be lying if it wasn't. You know what I'm saying? I think that reflection I'm looking at. But it's still a motivating thing for you. Exactly. I'd be lying if it wasn't. You know what I'm saying? I think that if I'm not being, I wouldn't be true. It wouldn't be truthful of myself if I didn't look at myself and critique it somewhat. Yeah, what's weird is I used to do this all the time, you know what, I'd look in the mirror, especially after I worked out because that's when I'd looked the best.
Starting point is 00:51:04 And really break down what I need to work on, what I don't like. You know what's interesting? Few years ago, I don't remember why I was over somebody's house, and we had done some exercises, and then I had looked in a mirror that was like a reflection of another mirror, and I could see my back.
Starting point is 00:51:24 And for whatever reason, it was an angle that I'm not used to seeing. And it was just, it had played a trick on my mind to where I could tell that it was me, but I felt like I was looking at someone else. Does that make sense? When did I get that tramp stamp? Yeah, and I, exactly.
Starting point is 00:51:39 What was I thinking? What night was that? What was I thinking when I did that? I was looking at myself through these lenses and it was interesting because for the first time in a long time, I had looked at myself and I thought, wow, I look pretty muscular. That's weird because the way I saw myself has been so skewed for most of my life to where I had body image issues to where I didn't even realize that the way I saw myself was not an accurate depiction of how I probably looked. And this one moment was really weird to me to see that. Look at my back and go, wow, I look really muscular. And when I
Starting point is 00:52:17 look at my back through other, you know, through other, you know, ways or other shots or whatever, I didn't see that same thing. And it wasn't the lighting, it wasn't a change anything, it was the same thing, it was just, for whatever reason, I had played a trick on my mind to where I felt like I was looking someone else so for a split second, it was like I could step outside my body and look at myself like someone else would, which is a very, very weird and interesting thing to do. And I think people experience this a lot
Starting point is 00:52:42 when they look at old pictures of themselves. I can't tell you how many times I've had a client, especially female clients, well, they'll look at an old picture of themselves. They'll be like, oh, God, I can't even believe I used to think I was fat back then, you know, or some dudes like, God, I thought I wasn't, I didn't even think I was muscular back then, but look at me, I was so ripped. Yeah. And it's like, you're, you're, it's so skewed how you view yourself or how you see yourself
Starting point is 00:53:03 that you're probably not even really being objective. You're looking at yourself differently than the way someone else may see you. And more recently, I really haven't looked in the mirror and flexed the whole lot and checked myself out a whole lot. I did it the past couple of days because I had done a post about, recently on Instagram about how my body seems to be settling at this particular
Starting point is 00:53:28 lean-ness and body weight, even though I'm not paying attention to the cosmetic, you know, the cosmetic, I'm not really looking and paying attention to what, you know, body parts need to work on or what muscle needs develop or whatever, and what's weird is my body weight seems to settle at like 187 pounds, between 186, I'd say, in 190 is where my weight My body weight seems to settle at like 187 pounds. Between 186, I'd say 190 is where my weight seems to settle and I'm not really even focusing on it. So it's a very, very interesting thing,
Starting point is 00:53:53 but when I do look in the mirror, and if I do try to look at myself and assess from a very cosmetic standpoint, I then I can start to point out, you know, flaws, like oh, I need more chest or my shoulder seam narrow or, you know, I don't like this particular part of my upper back or, you know, I need more chest, but it's very interesting because I haven't done that in a very, very long time. And I'm happy I haven't done that in a very long time because it's not a good place.
Starting point is 00:54:18 Yeah, it's very freeing to not be like that. Super freeing. Yeah. And I have to say that a lot of, I've gone through a lot of this transition recently just because I'm not competing anymore. So you get to understand that too, right? I did come off of, you know, being in the sport of aesthetic. So there's a part of that. I could play so many mind games on you. Well, and not only that, but there's a part of it like that was necessary, right? Like I'm this is my sport is to present the game. Yeah, is to present the most symmetrical looking physique. So of course, I was training myself to look at myself
Starting point is 00:54:48 and assess it that way, right? But before that, I really didn't have that. So I created that for myself. And so it took a transition to get out of that. I would say what I do still do right now, listening to you, we'll talk about flexing merit. And Katrina teases me, I do have a routine every night, where before I go to bed, I go over and I flex in front of the mirror.
Starting point is 00:55:06 But typically what I flex is I flexing something that I'm currently kind of focusing on. So like, if I'm like working on my quad development because I'm playing with our programming and I'm adding this and I'm manipulating some moves and I'm doing some different stuff, I'm kind of assessing it, but it's a very objective way of looking
Starting point is 00:55:25 at it. I'm not looking at it like, oh, I don't look good or this is that. I'm programming something right now in my, you know, I'm manipulating my program in a way. Trying to watch it like a science. Exactly. I'm trying to watch it and see how my body is responding, not looking at it like, oh, my legs aren't big enough or oh, my chest shrinking. More, it's like, okay, I'm applying some new techniques or more volume to something. I wanna see if my body is responding the way it's supposed to be. So that's probably how I look at my physique
Starting point is 00:55:54 more than anything now. It's more from a, because that's what I enjoy the most with these guys now. It's like, man, a bunch of, it is kind of like a bunch of scientists in a room that are creating these forms. That's what we kind of do in a sense when you talk about our programming and all the different exercise and movements and incorporating more mobility and priming.
Starting point is 00:56:12 I'm always applying all these different things and then I'm kind of going back and I'm using that. And not only is the reflection an indicator of what I'm focused on, a lot of times like I said, like right now I'm heavily focused on mobility. So I'm less of looking in the mirror and more of what I'm focused on. A lot of times, like I said, like right now I'm heavily focused on mobility. So I'm less of looking in the mirror and more of like, look at this,
Starting point is 00:56:29 I can sit all the way down in this baby position and my ankle isn't pronating anymore and I'm being able to internally rotate my feet even more than what I was before. So right now it's more of that than it really is the mirror but I do still use the mirror for things like that that I feel like are a healthier way of looking at it than what I was forced to do when I was competing, you know?
Starting point is 00:56:48 Yeah, it's funny because I'll have clients that I'll tell them to stop weighing themselves and just start paying attention to other things and then three weeks later the weigh themselves and they're freaked out, like, I don't wanna weigh myself because I feel like, I know I'm gonna gain hell away, I know I gain, they'll get on the scale and be like, I lost four pounds, like, how's this even possible? I didn't weigh they'll get on the scale and be like, I lost four pounds, how's this even possible?
Starting point is 00:57:06 I didn't weigh myself for three weeks, and I lost four pounds, like well, it's interesting, it's one of those things, like if you just focus on the scale, or just focus on your appearance, a lot of times it can drive you in the opposite direction. It could take you away from the things that help those things out.
Starting point is 00:57:21 So it's a very interesting position to be. Very true. Listen, if you like Mind Pump, leave us a five star rating review on iTunes. If we like your review and we pick it, you'll get a free Mind Pump t-shirt. You can also find us on Instagram at Mind Pump Radio. You can find me at Mind Pump Sal, Justin's at Mind Pump Justin, and Adam don't forget to forget about finding him. And Mind Pump out of this city, and you can find dog at Mind Pump Dog.
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