Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 481: Adding Barbell Snatches to Workout, Disengaging Lats During Military Press & Explaining Fasting & Food Tracking to Children

Episode Date: March 29, 2017

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there's only one place to go. Mind, pop, mind, pop with your hosts. Salta Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. What do you think, oh, hurry up, let's do this. Let's do this. Let's talk about Justin's hat. Yeah, old school orals hat, dude. That's throwback. Bro, I'm bringing back the ugly hat.

Fat. The Baltimore orals? Dude, that's pretty good right there. Don't fuck with me, dude. I'm not fucking with you. Let me just tell you something right now. I know. Just Google that before we got here.

No. Okay. How do I Google your hat? You just fuck stupid looking burn hat. He's just the Baltimore Orioles. No, here's what it is. I'll tell you why I knew what that was. All right, baseball.

You're actually going down. It's actually a college hockey team. It's the Oregon Ducks. It's not the Ducks. I know what the Ducks look like. No, that's the football Oregon Ducks. This is the division two Oregon Ducks. It's not the Ducks, I know what the Ducks look like. Now that's the football Oregon Ducks. This is the division two Oregon Ducks, hockey team. Here's the thing, when I was younger, I was semi into baseball and football cards. So I know what is semi mean?

You used to buy the things so you could get the gum. Like, you have a half boners. Exactly. I was like, fully erect. It was mom, can I get the baseball cards? Just so I could chew the bubble gum that I'm inside. Kind of made me do this right now. A couple more tugs.

Just, touch you hate that. No, I was into baseball cards and football cards, so I know what I know about professional sports is right around the night. It's like in the 90s. I can't talk to you. I can't talk too much shit to you because my sports knowledge is like every year's decreasing when I was a kid

Like I was fanatical I Collected all cards I could ramble stats I'm in fact my mom used to think it was like a fun party joke is to call me in the room and be like Tell them tell them the all the Dodgers players You know like and I would rattle off all their stats and everything like that and my my two best friends They are still fanatics. We have a thread, the three of us that are on, and we go all the way back to elementary school.

And so a big part of our friendship is based around sports. I mean, we go much deeper than that, but a big part of it is sports. And so it's like all this sports talk, and they just love to punk the fuck out of me now because I'm not up and up. Like I'm not staying up

But if you talk about like like early 2000s and 90s. Oh, yeah, yeah, no, if we're if we're back in even all the back in the 80s 80s and 90s man, I got you we could talk sports on you guys still have your old football and baseball cards I do you know I found I found them when I was at my parents and I made sure to go get them because I didn't want my brother to grab them. I mean, I've got the good ones that I had in like plastic cases, you know, they're worthless. So I mean, like that was such a thing. You're like, you thought I was an investment, you know, like I'm keeping all these. I got all the upper deck. I don't know. Can't agree for juniors. I remember I was like, it ends up worth nothing.

That was the fucking brand, then there was score. What was the other brand score? Upper tax, tops, and tops. Yeah, there was another one. I can't remember. Well, those are the big ones. Yeah, so hold on, you don't have any of the worth money then, Justin?

I mean, maybe, but not like, you thought that was gonna be like a thousand of dollars, you know? I have someone like me, 25 bucks. You do? Yeah. What's your most value? I wonder who has more of it,

because I have some that are worth some. Like they're in mint condition. You know what I have in look to, oh yeah, and mine are in plastic heart. I have some. Me too. I didn't take that much effort. Me too.

I have them literally like in little hard plastic cases. Yeah, let's see here. The ones, you know what, I haven't checked a back in a really long time. So I have an Emmett Smith rookie card. I've got a King Griffey Jr. Oh, Emmett Smith is a good one. Do the King Griffey's not worth shit.

No, the upper deck rookie card of him, that's what I thought would be worth. It's worth pretty good money. I've also got, who else do I have though? I remember it was worth some good stuff. So I have any bow jacksons. I do have some bow jacksons. I have a Troy, Troy Aiken.

Aiken, Aiken, excuse me, Rookie card score and then Barry Sanders, Rookie card. What do you do? That's Aiken, no way. Both of them now, the last time I checked to see what their value was. The last time I checked, they were worth, and this was a long time ago, they were worth like 80 or 100 bucks each.

So now I'm sure they're worth a few hundred bucks each to have to be right. Yeah, well, I would definitely, the Bo Jackson card, I would have. No, very good. Oh, you said, you said very Sanders, very Sanders and Trayekman. Okay. Both rookie cards. We're football cards that I don't know if they're not as much space. Yeah, they are still though.

If you have, if you have rookie cards and they're kept in good condition and they're they're one of the better brands Well, I traded my fucking Mark Mark wire rookie card didn't I yeah, I got those actually I got a bunch of Ace like in Kinseko like what so what were you doing with these that you didn't even I didn't think you were into sports at all You actually had some as a kid makes sense was it an accident? This was the nerdy part of the girl friend you dated in high school And I heard cards and she left them at your house house I bought them just for the gum that I liked them That's what I like the card. Oh, they got statistics on it. Oh, they got exciting I love the gum that came with them. I mean the like you lick the powder I was like so I was fucking it was like made out of like razor blades and cardboard

You never had the hell kind of gum once ever how hard was Seriously no joke throw it it would shatter you you could literally this is not a joke now If you had that gum on an airplane they take you off because you could kill mother fuckers with it was sharp It was hard and sharp so take me back to want how did you get cards? Why do you even have cards? Yeah? I was in I was telling you at trade it for like a science book I think I was into I was into sports for a little while. Hmm. Definitely. Wow. Yeah,, definitely the 49ers when they were in the fucking 80s, when they were awesome. So, it's a bandwagon that's good.

No. No, was it? You like a winning team? I like to play football, street football, so like football on the street. Oh shit. Oh shit, street football! You're a fucking art guard.

Yeah. Damn. Yeah, it's weird. It's weird. We should play Basketball again. So now that we should just kidding. Yeah, exactly. No, you just opened up a door there Let's you know, where's there ever one motherfucker? I'm gonna beat you again. Let's bring it motherfucker Again, let's do we play again. I'm the raining. Did you have it? Did you have a did you have a sport? That's what you do that you played as a kid or that you really wish you played or wish you were good at like there Was there like something that you're like get like I go back now and I think like fuck man I wish I would have swam even though I didn't think swimming was cool because you think you would have been good at it

Yeah, of course. I mean let's be honest as a kid you you tend to gravitate towards a shit You're good at anyways. I mean that's the stuff that you've fallen with. I was really nobody likes a sport that you start and you get your Asking for three years. I was really good at how to go seek No, I think I really was though for real. There was no there was never a sport You're like man, I wish I was good at that or yeah, I wish I was a fucking best at on any of them I don't know the skill. I wouldn't be sitting here. Well, I don't really I can't maybe I still I never cared about baseball Did you ever try track, Sal? Mm-hmm, yeah.

I did, I was really, that's not much of a, not into running. Mm-hmm, yeah. Like, shot putting all that shit. Nah, fuck that. Okay, stupid. I did, I just did judo as a kid. judo, I wrestled a little bit with the team,

but I didn't wrestle for the school. Mm-hmm. And then I just played shit on my own, but then I started lifting weights, dude. I was 12, I started lifting weights. That was my thing. Well, yeah, that's early. You know what I mean?

Because I didn't start lifting weights till after 15, 16, yeah. Yeah, exactly. Had I met you guys, I could have totally been your trainer. All right. Well, you know what I'm saying? I could have showed you guys some stuff. You probably could have actually

this shit that I was doing when I first started the chance. I'm not sure how I grew it all. What's the worst champion? It's a worst happens or something. Yeah, what's like the worst like workout fucking shit you did when you were kid I mean there was probably there was probably months maybe even years that I went like You know biceps and triceps was like all we did for him. Oh my gosh. Literally, like months of arms. Like months of arms. Yeah, months of arms. Dude, like months of arms. Oh, I don't think there was times where, you know, and like I never wanna do chess

because I was terrible at it. It was so bad at bench pressing and my buddies love to do it and I hated to do it because I was terrible. It was weak and my form was terrible. It didn't feel right. So I avoided it like the plague and legs. I mean, I didn't do legs till I was like in my 20s, you know, so I literally did like arms

I did like all bench like all day. Yeah, I would do like every angle every possible thing like all just bench You know like I just like that's all I wanted to do is just bench You know that's so so I was so different from you guys. I always trained everything, always. I always trained everything and I wrote everything down. Actually, I think I took my... Oh, I didn't start tracking. I brought you my workout to let me. Then I bring you guys at one time

and show you guys my printed out workouts and shows you those 14 years old. Yeah, yeah. But the worst thing that I would do is I would just do everything all the time. So I would literally be, but I did a split, right? But so if I did chest, it was every single chest exercise that could possibly think about everything.

I didn't do, see, I didn't do workouts like that. I went through phases of bad training, right? Like my first phase of bad training would be like just doing bison tries. Then, then like when I actually realized like, hey, I need to do these other muscle groups. Then it was like, you know, like you said, I just, I would be chest day and I would go on and do every machine and every chest exercise. I could think of Tyler, like, right now. I did everything, come out of here now, right?

It's still squat, because I mean, we had to do that for sports. You were tested on squat and you were tested on bench. And that's all in your shirt. That's so cute. Yeah, so I got really good at those too. I don't think I did my first squat towel in the 20s. 20s. Yeah, I didn't do my first squat. I was in my 20s and even as a trainer like I feel so bad that I I avoided teaching that that much like because very few clients

I felt like had the proper mechanics. Nobody did dude. You know, it's hard to teach a squat. It is no it is it's it's so if you don't know how to do it really well yourself forget it as a trainer Well, and I think that's a lot of why we talk about it so much as we know that, right? Like I'm not stupid. Like I was a fucking trainer and I was a boss of trainers for a very long time. So I see what you guys are fucking doing.

You know, you guys aren't, you're not very good at squatting, so you're not teaching it. Same thing with deadlifting. So you're avoiding two of the best fucking movements you can possibly do. I mean, if there was anything I could go back and tell the younger trainer or self of me or self went on fuck that was all messed up. The younger me right, whatever I would do I would tell myself listen bro figure

this shit out and help you. Would you have listened? You get a hard head. I do but you know what like if first of all if the future me like I look at him and be like guy like, God, this guy looks smart. He's good looking. I might listen to him. You know, I'm saying like Maybe if like you or Justin came and told me I'd probably be too stubborn to listen. Look at his future God, he's handsome. Oh, okay, whatever you say, bro, you look at your future. Show me the way, dude. Oh my god. Did I fall in my face at some What happened to my hair? I'm not a weird, I'm not a weird. I don't look as... What happened to my hair?

Like this buff hippie, what happened? Yeah, no, I had two breakthroughs as a kid. One was my first time taking creatine, because I've been taking creatine on an office since I was probably 16. I bought... Guzzles cell type. I bought phosphogaine.

Oh, not phosphogen. Phosphogen was AES's just pure creatine powder, but then they made a protein powder that I created and it was called FOSFAK GAME. And since all I ever wanted to do was GAME, I had to believe I'm FOSFAK GAME. I had sighted Gainer like crazy. Oh, that's correct. God damn it.

I took it, I'll never forget, I took it and like, I used to weigh myself, right? So like seven days later, I weighed myself and I gained like four pounds. And I was like, holy shit, this actually works. So that was a huge breakthrough for me. Then the second breakthrough was when I started squatting and deadlifting, and I'm not joking.

I put on over a summer, and of course, keep in mind I force fed the shit out of myself, but I gained like something like 13 pounds over a summer, which is a massive amount for like a 16-second. No, I can't imagine if I actually was squatting, deadlifting, overhead pressing as a kid, like how much my body would have responded. Dude, my ass, because I had no ass and no legs,

I was doing leg press and shit like that, and they kind of grew, but I started squatting, deadlifting, and I had to buy new pants. Yeah. It was so crazy, I like put them on, and I was like, what happened? I really feel like for at least 10. It was opposite for me, I had legs in chest,

but like no arms, and then all of a sudden, I started focusing on arms, it was like, pwww. And then I started playing basketball, and I actually affected like some of the other guys were like, oh shit, what did you do over the summer? Like your arms are crazy, and so everybody started doing arms. So you was like this arm, you always had a, like a big ass.

Big old ass. You ever go back and look at the photos, so though of kids and stuff that you thought were like massive and buff and big when you were a kid, and then look at what the actual picture is now as an adult. Like I had a buddy who I was like swear when I was a kid, he was just jacked. Like crazy jack dude and then I go back and look at the pictures and I'm like oh he looked like a little boy still. And because he was you know what I'm saying he was only 17 years old but he was so jacked compared and that's because when you're that age you don't look at you

Don't look at 28 30 year olds and look at like compare your physique to you that's so far ahead or oh my god They must be on steroids. You don't even think about that. You only look at what's right in front of you And so and your friends and it's that you look to the friend that looks the craziest right and to you He's like cock diesel and then I go back and I look at pictures like he barely looks like he works out like cock diesel and then I go back and I look at pictures and I'm like, he barely looks like he works out. I haven't heard cock diesel in a long time. That was my nickname. I, do you guys have pictures of yourselves flexing

when you guys were kids? Like, like, young. Only in action shots, where I'm like, you know, driving to do per shot. I told you to photo my parents put on my 16th birthday. That should be our homework. My 16th birthday, that's my golden birthday. So, what's your golden birthday, you know what yours is? Oh, I don't know that mean

So a golden shower a golden birthday is when your birthday lands on the day so like I'm November 16th So my golden birthday was when I turned 16 years old So what are your dates? I was four. Oh, that's my golden birthday was all four. Yeah, you know, I was a fucking riot Let me tell you what your what your choices Woo! Who cares how that works again? So what month? Okay, your January. January.

January. No, no, January what? 26. Okay, so 26 was your golden berthay. Okay. Diaggo was yours. 23rd. So there you go.

That's your golden berthay. Mine was 16. We made this shit up. Yeah. Whatever. It's probably some, well I was going to say Pinterest thing, but this was way before Pinterest. So it's some bullfits.

I think they lied to you. No, no, whatever. Adam, it's your golden bird. They aren't too excited. You're like, what? Well, as a kid, I was a good way to get my parents to make a big deal about it, right? So maybe you made that shit up for sure.

I'm probably, I might have been that good. I'm proud of who knows. Hey, Bob, it's my next birthday. It's my golden one. Remember that means double the presents. Well, they did. They did all these, they did all my rapping favorite gold parts. We did a limo to dinner and then I came back.

limo and you were 16? Well, I did it a girl who owned a limo. So that wasn't hard. Oh man. That's, wait, this whole story is fucking crazy. Well, you dated a girl. So my girlfriend starts with your presence being wrapped in gold. Then you dated a girl at 16.

That's why you're so bougie. You drove a lit, she didn't own the limo. Yeah, her parents owned a limo. Yeah, her parents owned a limo. So how old was she? She was 16 also. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah.

So did she drive the limo with you in the back? No, no, we had a driver. Wow. So that's the way it worked. So her parents are fancy. I wonder what all twins would be. Yeah, her parents, yeah, that's why it's why I like the guy who takes the limo

all over the place right? So it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, she was, her mom and dad, mom was actually just a teacher, but her dad was a lawyer, like the lawyer in town for a small town. And they owned a limo, and then all you had to do was pay for the driver, and for my birthday, of course, my girlfriend's parents took care of the driver for us.

So we had a limo, and, you know, because people were probably going like, wait a second, this motherfucker said he had a poor, he was poor, I was, okay, so I did have moments like this that I got to he knows people which probably explains why I was a suburban I'm the lawyer in this call one of those wagons call Just has a back this has two back seats. Wow I mean it is a limo. It was a station wagon with four lawn chairs in the back. So, you know, limo, same thing.

It's a pickup truck with same difference. The stride was chairs in the back. Hey, baby, for your birthday, your golden birthday, we got you a limo. It's like, that's a pickup truck. No, no, no, no, look at the chairs in the back. Oh my god. It's a limo.

So you know what I mean, right? Same thing. So it pulls up. We go out. And then when we come back, you know, all the gold presents were out, right? Same thing. So it pulls up. We go out. And then when we come back, you know, all the gold presents were out, my cake and stuff. And then as soon as you walk through the door on the wall across the way, my parents had blown up literally by, you know, it was, you know, four feet by two and a half feet wide, this picture of

me. And it was when I was, I was in Modesto, so I had to been like five or six years old at the oldest, right? Somewhere between five and seven and somewhere in that range. And I'm in on a coffee table, just like this one. And I'm posing in my red underwear and I'm, you know, doing these muscle poses and shit like that. And they blew it up and that was like the picture that I was looking at when I walked into the house.

It was pretty embarrassing. Yeah, that might be. My mom still has it. Can you breathe? You like trying to be a whole whole whole whole? She's still, I'll bring it down here so you can. Can we do this? It'll be funny, right?

Can this be our homework? Can we all go get like an old flexing photo of ourselves so we can post it? Actually, if we could find the, if everyone could find the oldest flexing picture, that would be cool. Well, I'm not, it doesn't count if you have it when you're like 16. Yeah, I got high school like, I have 13 or 14 or 13.

I was passing y'all about earlier. I was just, you can come up with the youngest. Well, I already know I got to be with you guys. You got, you got me, you got me. Well, I don't know if I, I don't know if I have any from when I was real young, but the one when I was like 14, it's pretty legit. I got my skinny kid, but I have some decent definition.

Well, I have some of those when I'm like 17, 18, like when I was really starting to actually lift weights, and posing where I think I'm the old model. Oh dude, no, no, no, no, at 14 years old, I could pose better than most bodybuilders. I had practiced the side arm pose, my arm, old the fucking twisting three quarter window. Oh yeah, dude, I thought for sure, I was gonna be Mr be mr. Olympia the irony I realized that I didn't build muscle

How funny is it that I never did any of that? I mean obviously there's a picture of me posing But I would mean it looks terrible right and it is the Arnold pose. It's this one, you know so but I did you think you guys Did you guys ever think like I'm gonna be a bodybuilder never even one even up until the day before I Decided I was gonna be a bodybuilder and compete I Are men's physico the fuck you want to call it min bikini. I? Never once like thought oh be so cool to do the most cool. I thought I was gonna be Ronnie lot the most The most ever that I was except for your white. Yeah, it like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like,

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And it's, you know, it's so funny. It's the shit that drives me crazy as a trainer now. Like, hey man. Yo dude, what's the best by surprise? Oh, you idolized people like that, though. You do. And you walked up to, you know, hey bro, what's the best best best by surprise? Bro, you are, hey bro, what's the best, best, best, best, best practice guys?

You are huge. Yeah. So tell me how. He made me want to be a trainer, but then I never thought I could make any money doing that, because I never saw any like rich trainers or anybody that was like, which, I was very money motivating coming from not having a lot of money.

So I thought it would be a cool job to have wow into college and got like a real job. So that was the only time I thought, wow, this would be cool or I wanna do this. No, I thought, I thought, I've one set for a small second, I thought, ooh, I don't think I wanna compete as a bodybuilder, but I'm like,

I'm definitely gonna get as big as Arnold did because that's just what happens with more of a heart at something. Yeah. Then for a second, like I said, I played Street Football. That doesn't mean like a brand of football will play crazy.

It just means I played in my street in front of my house with kids. And we know. No one thought it was an organized league. You didn't have to explain that. So check this out though. I was actually pretty good at being a wide receiver because we'd have all these kids together.

And I mean, I was five years older than everybody, but that's not why I was the best. It's because I actually had some skills. But your little kids like, boom bitch, touchdown motherfucker, it's right. No, no, no, they were all my age, and we were playing, and I was actually really good at receiving. I was like,

people had a tough time covering me. And so I thought, now looking back, I'm sure everybody was horrible, but back then, I had these delusions of grandeur, like I often do, and I thought for sure I was gonna be, because I thought I would be like Tim Brown. Tim Brown was the dude that I really looked up to and during that period of time.

So for a small period of time, I thought, I'm gonna be a wide receiver. Dude, you're not Jerry, right? I was just gonna say he was a nighter fan. He was a band like a vampire watching Tim Brown. I don't dare you. I don't know why. Jerry writes crazy ball time.

I don't know why. I don't know why. I don't know why I picked Tim Brown. I don't dare you. I don't know why. Jay Rice grace of all time. I don't know why. Want to be somebody else? I don't know why I picked Jim Brown. And I thought that for a little while until I was in, I think I was in seventh grade. And I begged my mom and they never want to let me play tackle football because they're like, it's gonna, you're gonna hurt your brain or whatever.

But I begged them and they finally let me play tackle football. And I went to a grand total of two practices and I said no. No, I'm not doing this shit. You were an into it? No, man. Oh, my friend, I'm in a tackle practice. I fucking loved it.

Of course you did, because you're fucking maniac. Oh, the best. Here's why I didn't like it. I'll tell you why right now. This is the one reason why I didn't do it. It wasn't because of the training. It wasn't the fucking pads or the tackling. In fact, we didn't even tackle each other yet because we just started. It was because I could not fucking stand someone yelling at me telling me what to do.

I'm such an, I hate that to this day. If you fucking tell me what to do, I want to punch your face. And here's this coach that's like, And you just co-exist and navigate these coaches. And I mastered this process to where coaches never even talked to me. Like I did my own thing, they just trusted that I would do my job, my responsibility. Even a young man's hurt.

Even a young man, dude. But that was like, I established that very early. I was like, look, I got this and I would kept telling the coach, I got this, I got this. No, I fucking hated it, man. Do you know that's the only thing I've ever quit in my entire life? What?

Football. Really? Only thing I've ever quit in my entire life? What? Football. Really? Only thing I've ever quit in my entire life. I played Pop Warner Football and I was, they put me at defensive end. You got lit up. I got fucked up, bro. I mean, I was like, literally like 98 pounds wet, dude. Yeah, and I'm just, the tight end across from me was like double my way.

I know it's not done to the blind, because in Pop Warner you have weight classes, right? So I'm exaggerating. No, I think it's just age when you're reading. No, no, no, you have pop order football has age and weight class. So you were probably a linky 98. Yeah, exactly. And he was just, I mean, he had, he still had good weight on me. He probably still had 15, 20 pounds on me. And I just, it was not a position for me. I just literally play after play was getting fucked up. And the same experience coaches just yelling screaming

And I'm like dude what to do, you know like this is my first year playing football and I'm just getting beat up every play whistle Go bam on my ass whistle goes bam on my ass and then getting yelled at like I'm like, why am I doing this? Like this is this is all the fun my friends were talking about like this is not fun for me and I finished You know, I feel like when you're when you're and that was like such a bad age for me to get him, like I will wish I had the frame, the size that I have now, and I love the sport of football. Like everybody thinks that I played football and they see me and I'm like, no,

if you only saw what I looked like when I was a kid, you wouldn't think I played football at all. It's funny that like how coach is how they can be so effective or so ineffective. Yeah, yeah. Like my, my son's on a volleyball team for school. And yesterday they played their third game. Their three and oh, and their three and oh.

They're, they're three and fucking oh, and here's why it's crazy. Because the other teams so far have all been bigger and stronger and they hit the ball harder. And on my son's team is, you know, my son and some of his legal robotics teammates. So you can picture these kids, right? They're all, like those kind of kids.

Super athletes. Yeah, no, but because they all have trained and practiced together with legal robotics, like so hard, they've got like this group flow thing going on. And so when you watch them play, so yesterday, they're playing this other team, and this other team's fucking twice their size. And this other team is just, blah blasting the ball over the net. And little

by little, my son's team is playing so organized like a team, like one, like they know what to do, like they're all in unison. And they started breaking down the other team and the other time, the other team literally fell apart. Like as soon as they started losing, you could tell they were all like scattered, didn't know what to do. And my son's team was like this, like this fucking little well oiled machine. And I'm watching them just like, oh my God, this is so nice.

When you lost the grace, I feel that that totally reminds me of when we played basketball because we were a bunch of like smaller, you know, white kids that we would go play like all over the place and we would win based off of fundamentals and teamwork. That was it. When you're a coach that was on uncle, the one who we're going to meet this Friday,

he is like way too, we've phonatic like when he comes to football, right? Played all through high school college. He's coached for a really long time and he is so into like the chess matchup and he loves to take young kids and like drill in fundamentals and he just destroys leagues. Like they go like every season they go. I think there's in all the season, he's got to be lost. He's lost like a handful of times. And he and coaches fucking hate him because my uncle do like the same play over and over

and over and over until like they figured out and then they figure that out and then see and all these other coaches try and get fancy and teach all this other stuff. He's like no, at this age you teach them like three or five things and you teach them how to do it really well. And they just, well, that's a long call. That's what they do. That's what they do.

Yeah, that's why they've had like the most champions that anybody for high school footballs because they've mastered like a few plays, but they bring in kids that are like super talented, so they have that, you know, aspect. I've read their book. Their book and the movie is fucking awesome. I'm telling you, like the coach on my son's team, she's great, she's good, but really what's doing it is I know that these kids have all worked together for the last two years competing in this legal robotics tournament and being such close friends, all of them,

that when they get on there, they're all just, they know each other. And so when you watch them play, you can see them just systematically, without really, they don't even know what they're doing. They don't realize it because they're so young, but they're like, you know, because here's what kids do.

It's intuitive, yeah. This is what the other team would do. When the ball would come over, two kids would go for the same ball and they'd fuck up. Or it would come over and then they'd both wouldn't go because they'd wait for the other kid. Meanwhile, my son's team, you'd see these kids, you know, like, I same ball and they'd fuck up. Or it would come over and then they'd both wouldn't go because they'd wait for the other kid. Meanwhile, my son's team, you'd see these kids, you know, like, I got it and they'd hit it and then,

boom, they'd set it up and then they'd hit it over and it was like, so organized, I'm like, holy fuck, they're totally breaking this other team down. And they were behind in the first game and they started coming back. And you could see the other team start to break down, but it was too late, they lost, they were behind by too much. But by that point, I could see psychologically what was happening. And I was telling Jessica, I'm like, watch this, I said,

the other team start to break down, I can tell. And sure enough, second game was close, but we won, third game, we fucking destroyed them. They just all fell apart. That's great. And it's great watching these parents, like, get frustrated with their fucking athletic kids, and I'm sitting over there like, when you see a good coach, a young young, just really cool like that. parents like come on like get all frustrated with their with their fucking athletic kids and you know

I'm sitting over there like when you see a good good coach it's really cool I tell dog bring on the fucking bird today's quads being brought to you by kine-americaf It's the only coffee that is infused with all natural neutropics for a cleaner, calmer, and more focused fuzz without the crash. Put the Kaimera link at MindPumpMedia.com and input the discount code MindPumpA Checkout for 10% off! It's the motherfucking f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing f*** First up is a more fatty. More? A more fatty.

A more. I love it a fatty. So this person is asking, why no barbell snatches in the programming, the map programming. There are cleans in maps green. Well, first I want to be clear, we are huge fans of the snatch. So we just want people to know that. as long as it's clean exactly uh... no you know what here's a

alright yeah let me i had to make a joke on here's a thing uh... against the gather a snatch we talked about this though we just a little bit discussed we must be on this there aren't cleans prescribed in maps clean no map screen there clean uh... there there are a high prescribed in maps, clean, map screen, they're clean. There are high pulls, and this was like a very purposeful why we did that, because it's a very complex set

of, set of operations and skills that you need to accomplish before, really being able to master this type of a movement properly and having all these things in place ahead of time. We're just trying to get to that expression of power. So, you know, cleans being the next progression from the hypo, is something that I definitely, like as an athlete,

like that's something that I definitely promote as far as like having that kind of a response is very beneficial. We debated this, we actually debated this one. We made maps performance and I'll tell you what, if you're very proficient at cleans or snatches and you wanna switch out high pulls for those, you can. But the reason why we didn't put in the programming is cleans are highly, highly technical

and snatches are fucking five times as technical more. Like, that's probably the most technical barbell movement you can do. And we're not about to put an extremely technical exercise in a program that we're going to promote to most people. And we knew that most people have either A, never done a snatch or B, they do them wrong. And they don't have the shoulder mobility

to even do that. And they're not gonna get the power out of it. They're not gonna get wrong. They don't have the shoulder mobility to even do that. And they're not gonna get the power out of it. They're not gonna get the benefit from it because they don't know how to do that. So this is where all the programs, and this is why, there is definitely a major reason why we did, we talked a lot about this. But I remember at first, I remember Justin was like,

man, that's such a major movement. We got a program in there, and remember Justin was like, man, that's such a major movement. We got a program in there and we were all like, dude, but we all know how technical it is. Where we see it going is, we're giving you this, performance program, which is really the foundation for all sports and any athletic performance pursuit. And then on top of that, you can build modifications. So I foresee when

we're when this business is all squared away and we've got the app done and we've got all programs released out and everything. We have a staff and everything's going, which is we're heading that direction. We'll be there very soon. I think we'll go back and we'll start getting really specific first like specific sports. I foresee us, you know, okay, these movements for football, these movements for soccer, these movements for whatever, and then here's some movements that we didn't put in performance that this is how we would modify and add it in there.

If you're somebody already who like, you know, Sal was saying, if you're already somebody who's proficient at snatches or cleans, like by all means, this is where you can incorporate it, but we just don't think that's something that we would recommend to the person who's going through map screen the first time. I have a bit of an issue too,

because I feel like the overhead snatch in any kind of Olympic lifting exercise is that's a sport by itself, and that's something that you, you have to have like dedicated years towards Achieving these movements to get them to what they should look like and so for just to throw it into a workout You know as like you know some other programs i.e. Crossfit I you know any other kind of like highensity type of a workout program that somebody's created

Just to throw it in there because it's exhaustive. It's an exhaustive move that you know stupid. Yeah, it's it's really stupid And it's it's something that I feel like I guess I'm I'm Impassionate about it because I feel like a lot of coaches are just It's the rationale about it because I feel like a lot of coaches are just naive. Yeah, naive to throw it in there like that. It's a fucking technical movement with more risk. Well, they're irresponsible. It's more risk than reward. There's plenty of movements that we can do that can replace that movement. Now, not individually, like it, not one movement is going to trump that snatch or clean, but there's a lot of other movements like the overhead press and the high pulls and things that we can do that are much safer, easier to get the mechanics down, going to get tons of the, tons of similar benefits.

But yeah, if you want to progress to that, that's like a, like, justness at a whole program itself, which we've also talked about that is like, and we wouldn't write that until we aligned with someone who we think is like one of the best Olympic athletes. Yeah, we're all renowned, yeah, coach for that. Olympic lifting coach that we go through a whole Olympic lifting routine, you know? Yeah, I mean, the bottom line is when you're doing a program, you have particular goals.

And there is a phase within mass performance where we're focusing on power, the ability to generate force within a very short period of time and maximal force, right? So we're trying to build as much power as possible. You have to look at the risk versus reward of each exercise. The reward being how much, well this contribute to power, the risk being, how long will it take to learn this and or the risk of injury? Because of the technicality of the movement and a snatch is very, very high

risk. And if you compare the risk to reward, it's not very good. In fact, there's very few people that I would ever program a snatch into the routine, very few people. The ones that I would use a snatch to with are Olympic lifters because they have to learn how to snatch. People who compete in events that involve snatches. So if you do crossfit events and there is a snatch event,

you should definitely probably just do it then. Or number three, somebody who's got all the time in the world who really just likes to learn new techniques and wants to learn new functional movements and doesn't mind doing snatches with a broomstick for a long-ass time before progressing to 20 pounds and then 40 pounds and then so on. Then I would program them in, but 99% of the people who are working out and doing

NAPS performance to improve their athletic performance, I would say no, I wouldn't do, I wouldn't put a snatch in there. You're going to get just as much power generation from a far less technical movement. Like I'll tell you what, a kettlebell swing is also very, very technical, but it's not nearly as technical or hard to teach as a clean. Still hard to teach, but just not as hard. Can you get the same hip, drive, and power from a kettlebell swing that you can from a clean? You can. But it's still safer. It's still safer. Yeah, any kind of a kettlebell movement is is gonna be safer than a barbell movement

That you're gonna throw over your head and that's just the bottom line you can debate that all day long It's it's it's not debatable. It's it's irresponsible for coaches to program this into an athletes program If they're not an Olympic lifter bottom line line. And that being said, that doesn't mean that, you know, that's a movement that all of us actually practice and do quite frequently inside the gym. It's just not something that we recommend to the athlete. Yeah, but how do you practice it? Let's be honest, you're not doing it to workout.

No, no, it's a workout. Yeah, no, exactly. It'll be a lightweight and I'm just working on mechanics. So, and it's, I've done hand cleans as a workout. And when I work out with hand cleans, and at one point I was practicing them pretty frequently, like two or three days a week, and I took me like seven months to really,

and I didn't go above 135 with a hand clean, and this was after like eight months of practice, and like dedicated practice. And even at 135, I found that I could tell that I wasn't as good as I could be. I noticed certain nagging areas that went on. Yeah, and that's the thing. I know exactly.

I know going through power cleans myself, like how if you haven't been doing this movement frequently, how quickly you lose it and you lose the ability to perform it properly. So it just, it takes a lot of volume for you to get to a level where you're proficient in it. I don't think we can communicate this clearly.

It's hard to. It's hard to clear it off. Like, let me put it this way. We talk about how complicated and complex and technical a squat is. Just a barbell squat. Barbell squat of all the traditional, slow type barbell movements, I would say a barbell squat is probably the most technical. Barbell squat, deadlift, both very technical, the squat maybe being a little bit more technical.

If the technical, if it was a 10 in terms of how hard it was to teach and learn and how much time it took to learn how to do a barbell squat and it was a 10, you can pretty much say a clean is a hundred and a snatch is 200. That's literally the difference. It is so much more complex. So when I see people working out with cleans and snatches, especially in timed routines. I want to take, I want to rip my eyeballs out. Well, yeah, just cringe. Well, you have, inside. You just have, it just, you don't really have any business doing it until you perfect the foundational ones. Until you've got a squat, a deadlift, an overhead press

with like beautiful mechanics. Like you mastered them? Yeah, like it's the sense. It doesn't, unless you like you said, there's a sports specific reason that like you requires you to learn this movement Do you put that just because the risk versus reward? It's not and and the risk versus benefit You gotta think about it this way. These movements were invented Because the goal of Olympic lifting was to the original goal of Olympic lifting was

Get this barbell to my shoulders. So you can lift the most weight to my shoulders. And over time, the smartest lifters developed this highly efficient technique to do so. So it was a technique designed around a goal. It was not a technique designed to make you more powerful or stronger. Whereas a squat is I want wanna get my legs stronger, put the bar on my back and do it. It's no different than when you look at like a high jump,

when someone jumps over a bar, and you look at the weird way that they jump head first and do this weird technique. It's not because they're trying to learn how to jump as high as they can and get that explosive jump. It's because at some point, over time, there was an athlete that figured out this really highly efficient, efficient technique, and then you just became good at the technique. So that's what

cleans and snatches are. It's not necessarily, that's what they were invented. It's how can I get this weight to my shoulders as efficiently as possible and then perfect at particular technique. Dusklim Kingman. How do we prevent our lat from being over engaged while doing a military press? I feel instant relief in my back when I re-rack the bar and my friend has similar problem, but he feels a lot more in his traps. Before we answer this, I want to remind people

we still have 30 days of coaching available at mindpumpmedia.com for free. So with this particular question here, he's feeling like his lats are over engaged and he's getting relief in his back when he rewrapped the bar. I would debate whether he's feeling actual tightness in his lats because the lats are actually countering the overhead movement. If his lats were engaging while he was pressing up too hard, his bar wouldn't move. Yeah. Well, I think what he feels is that he's probably got a little bit excessive forward shoulder. And so he's so tight that when he puts the bar

in the military press position, he's just having to squeeze his back so hard to pull the scapula back. Because this is me. Like I remember feeling this way. This is why. Did you feel in your last story or your mid back? Cause the last don't really feel that scapula regressive. Well, I think that's what he's just, I mean, Because this is me like I remember feeling this way. This is why did you feel in your last or your mid back because the

Lats don't really well, that's I think that's what he's just I mean because you're I don't think that's I'm saying I don't think it's a lot. That's probably more rhomboids that he he feels either rhomboids are like his actual Erector spina muscles, but you'll stabilize when you're when you're actually fighting to pull back like that Maybe the rhomboids at first are what are overworking, but then as you start to decelerate down, you'll feel a lot and you'll feel a lot of the weight. This form is just off. Yeah, stabilizing. So this is decelerate the load. That's not going to be active in the concentric portion. Well, yeah, but what's happening is this. This is so close to home for me. This is exactly

how I used to feel. So I felt like this a lot, and it was just because I didn't have the shoulder mobility. I didn't have the proper shoulder mobility. So for me to have the proper mechanics, I felt all those other stabilizer muscles having to work so much to keep my mechanics correct. Like so, this is where prime is money for someone like this. Like taking yourself through all like the shoulder mobility moves before you go into like your military

press should help this out a lot. I mean, bottom line is that the back and the traps, these are muscles that are, you know, your antagonist muscles to this movement. So it's common that you feel it. But if you feel it more than you feel it in your shoulders, it's probably a lack of mobility and then you're overcompensating with each other. I mean, let's be clear, the backs very involved with the good overhead press. Traps are directly involved. Traps have to, especially the upper traps,

they have to stabilize the scapula because they're fighting those downward forces. The lats aren't necessarily, unless you're engaging them because you've got such poor, like Adam said, poor mobility in your shoulders. Here's an easy fix. If that's really where you feel it, hang on a bar for 20 seconds.

Literally just relax and hang on the bar, feel your lat stretch, get your shoulders in that overhead position. Then do some band pull apart so you can activate your mid back, then do a military press and see if you still feel the same way. It's very, very, I mean, if this is really what's happening, that should... How about a lot? That should help out quite a bit. And just by doing. It's very, very, I mean, if this is really what's happening, that should help out a lot. That should help out quite a bit.

And just by doing what Sal saying right now, it's you doing that shoulder retract. Because you may not go from feeling it this way to also imperfect that you do that one time from Sal, but you should feel a instant relief or you should feel it more in your shoulders right after the first time you do what Sal just said based off of what you're describing. If you, and if that's the case, then diving deeper into like all the prime movements

and things that we talk about going into these exercises is only going to benefit even more. So if you actually spend some good time on all your shoulder mobility exercises before you go into actually lifting with your shoulders, you should notice a major difference. And don't feel, don't be afraid to go very light. Yes. Like lighter than you. The bar was all I was pressing when this was my issue. This was my issue and I was literally... You were just perfecting your form.

Yes, the 45 pound bar. I was, that's all I was doing and I'm paying, I was paying attention to my spine the entire time because, in God, I was just walked last night, I was at the gym and it was packed. Which by the way, he might not even know, that wasn't that long ago, you did that. No, no, no, there's like, here we go. Yeah, there's video, if you go far enough, back on my Instagram, you'll see me posting videos of it.

You know, see me posting videos and talking about, I remember when I like started adding, and I was just adding 10 pounds, like each time, until I finally felt really comfortable with, you know, 135 pounds controlling it, keeping myself in a good neutral spine as I press. So, this is something that it should take time.

But you should see good progression if you actually regress all the way back to super lightweight, pay attention to your mechanics, and then keep going. And if you're not, this is also a lot of why we started Mind Pump TV. So if you're not subscribed to the YouTube channel, you know, we address a lot of things like this on there.

And then, you know, Doug is split it up in different playlists. So if you want specific things related to the shoulder or related to the back, you know, go through those, subscribe to those videos. We drop them every day, go through and start, you know, using those tools. If you don't own prime, if you own prime, that should handle all this shit.

I mean, that's why we created it. But if you don't, we've provided a lot of free tools for people like the Mind Pump TV, so take advantage of that. Ferryland is asking, has a parent with children, how do you explain fasting and food tracking? With a world being so image conscious, even explaining that it is for health purposes,

can it still be dangerous on young, impressionable minds? Well, number one, I don't explain fasting to little kids. I explain that it's okay to not eat if they're full or if they're full and they don't want to eat anymore. I don't say fasting. I think if I sat down with a kid and I said, you know, my kids and I said, hey, we're not going to eat until dinner tonight because fast.

It's 12 o'clock. We have to feel like fuck you dad. I'm not even hungry. Not only that, but a kid is going to, they're probably going to interpret that as what's the word. Like I'm like I'm like I'm going to get you're going to get child services not going on your device. So like I'm taking something away from them and then they get to eat when they finally do get to eat

and that could promote kind of a bad food relationship. As far as food tracking is, I don't do that either. I don't tell my kids like, okay, how many calories or how many grams of protein. What I do say though is I do tell them what's in their food. So I will say, this know, this is salmon. Salmon is high in protein, protein does this. It's also high in fats.

Fats do this for you. And there's a special kind of fat in salmon called omega-3s. And this is why they're really good for you. And that's why when you taste salmon and I explain why it tastes a certain way, why it's a certain color. I just did this the other day with my daughter.

We were over my mom's house and she uses Himalayan pink salt, so do we. And so I actually brought out some iodized pure white table salt and I showed her the difference. And we've been using Himalayan salts for so long that it was a shoulder and she was like, oh yeah, salt can be really white too. I said, do you know why this one's pink? And she said, no, I said, well, there's different mineral composition in this. And so it just opens, opens up a conversation and what they, you know, I'll tell them what they do for them.

And then you end up finding that your kids kind of make some, some decisions and choices based on the information that they were given. And I also, of course, I limit their options. I don't let them know that I've limited their options. You know, it's not like I tell them, like, you can only eat these foods. It's like, hey, Dad, I'm hungry. What do we have to snack on?

You can have an apple, a piece of cheese or sardines, you know, take your pick. It's not like, you know, if I don't give them any options and they're the ones making the choice, and it's just the options that I've forgotten. Well, it's interesting because my oldest, he's found food labels. And so, that's his favorite thing to do now

is to just take a food and then he reads the back of it and he wants to tell me everything that's in it. Awesome, that's cool. And he just totally did that on his own. And so that's another thing. It sparks a conversation. Like what are the macronutrients? What are all these types of different foods and what kind of nutrients

you get from these foods. And so really, I just try and create the dialogue for it of like, you know, why, you know, my mommy and daddy choose these types of food and why we're eating this, you know, in combination together and all this. I'm not saying like, you know, I'm not condemning, you know, like, I just, I don't want to get them fixated on these numbers. And that's something that I was like kind of like trying to weave in and out of with him.

Like it's great to have an understanding of these things and to see it on the label, but I mean, for the most part, mommy and daddy don't eat a lot of foods with labels on it. So, well, I think that I picked this question because I knew it would be a little bit challenging for a couple of reasons. One, I knew it would be challenging for us because I knew that you two didn't track or tell your kids about fasting. I knew that. So, and then you've got someone like me who does both fasting and tracking his food, even

though I'm not right now. And I then I don't have kids. So I haven't had to have this conversation, but if I had to have this conversation because what would I do if, because dad competes, what if I was competing and I was measuring and weighing my food and my kids saw me doing that?

I think I would explain what I was doing that dad's in a sport, I'm getting ready for something, it's very easy to miscalculate or to overeat food. And for my goals and what I'm trying to do right now, I'm trying to be as precise as possible. So I think just sharing with my kid, if I had one while I was doing that, I would just explain to them what I'm doing, but I would not try and impose that on them. I would allow them to ask me like, well, you know, can I do that or

should I do that? And even if they ask, I would tell them that they would don't need to do that, but if that's something they want to do, I could teach them and help see that's the perfect approach because there's like this, this line that we walk as parents and, you know, you want to make sure, first of all, don't make it such a big fucking deal. And what I mean by that is, I'll give you an example. European kids binge drink at a far lower rate than American kids do. This is a fact. If you look at statistics, you'll find that especially in the countries in Europe where wine is served at the dinner table and kids are allowed to taste wine and try wine and

they start having a little bit of wine at the age of 13 and 14. And they binge drink at much lower rates because it's not that big of a fucking deal. And they're not taught that it's like this, this taboo like secret thing. And if you treat food like that with your kids, you make actually cause the opposite to happen. So talk to them about like Adam was saying,

like, well, this is why I eat this way, and these are my goals, and it's part of what I do, and here's the consequences of it, and here's the positives of it. You know, they're not, they're not, just because their kids doesn't mean they're stupid. You know what I mean? Like, you kind of let them make some of those decisions

themselves, and treat them a little bit like adults sometimes. You'd be surprised. I think the question and the reason why people, and I think it's a very good question, because I think, you know, as parents people and I think it's a very good question because I think you know as parents you got to be concerned like with all the shit that's at school and you know I don't know your kids go or to their friends house and they're you know their their family may have all kinds of

box shit that they're getting fed and things like that and then they come home and then you know you're a parent that's you know health conscious or you're at least trying to be health conscious, and you're trying to think, okay, I need to teach my kid these things that I'm learning, what's the proper way to do that? And I think that's why when we talk about fasting, fasting is an advanced tool. And I think since we've been talking about it for a couple of years now,

I feel like I've seen, you know, two sides here. I see a really good side of people that are applying it intermittently into their routine and it's- What's the thing to their body? Yeah, and they're doing it for health purposes. And then I see the other side of people that, you know, use it as like a weight management strategy.

And not to say that that's bad or wrong, I just don't think that's ideal, and the reason why I don't think it's ideal is for a situation just like this, because then all of a sudden that becomes convoluted when you're trying to teach a kid. Well, dude, back in the day, not eating to lose weight was called a food, it was a eating disorder,

and if you'd went too long, it was called anorexia. Now that we have studies showing the benefits of fasting, you've got people who've got that similar mentality who are now saying like, it's fasting. No, it's you not eating because you want to lose weight. So you just decided not to eat, but now that fastings got some purported help benefits and some study supporting it,

you feel justified with your bad relationship with food. And I think that's what Adam's talking about. Like don't fast to lose weight fast because of the health benefits. Is weight loss a side effect many times? Sure. It definitely is. And I think there's a difference too, like, you know, with food tracking, like how, okay, so if I'm in the grocery store and we're looking at food labels and we're reading

about, you know, the ingredients, the nutrients involved with each food. I love that. I want my kids to learn all those things and understand on a deeper level what each food is providing. But I'm not fixated on, I'm fitting this into this meal and I'm adding all these numbers in together

to complete my day for the meal for all that. That's just, I mean, that's unnecessary for them to learn at that certain stages. I think later on in life, that's something that, they'll grow into that sort of understanding. And kids naturally fast. I mean, you talk to any parent and there's one meal that they have to force their kid to eat usually,

maybe not every day, but don't force them. I mean, if I give my kids breakfast, then I'm giving them good choices, and I notice that my kid eats a tiny amount, and they don't want me more, and I'll ask them, why aren't you eating the rest of your breakfast? I don't want it, you don't feel like eating it, no.

That's fine. They'll kind of naturally do that sometimes, and I'm not gonna- And she saw some chickens, they'll eat the leftovers. Well, do you know that whole era of, finish your plate is so crazy because it's such an old thing that you had to do when there was like a scarcity of food, right? And now it's like, and so many parents,

because they were taught by their parents. That is the root of food problem. It is. It is. And so you start off, you have too much food. You're telling kids to do, they have to have to have to, and then you create that mentality. Then now they have all these crazy, terrible options at their disposal all the time.

So now you create this, you know, overeating where it's like, don't be afraid to, if they're not hungry to not feed them, like it's crazy. Just what? In a couple hours, they're going to take a hungry. And also think about this. There's your two jobs as a parent when it comes to food. There's two jobs. Number one, provide them with food that's going to nourish their body that's going to make them feel good and be healthy. But number two, your other job, which is equally as important. It's just as important. There isn't one, isn't more important than the other.

The second part is your job is to provide an environment where your child will become an adult with a good relationship to food. Because at some point, that kid ain't going to live with you is to provide an environment where your child will become an adult with a good relationship to food. Because at some point, that kid ain't going to live with you and they are going to make those decisions for themselves. And I'm telling you what, there's a reason why kids go off to college and gain 15 pounds the first year.

It's because mom and dad are not controlling their food. They didn't develop a good relationship to food. They go off on their own and they eat horrible. And that contributes to this obesity epidemic with adults and I've known many people who, oh my God, my parents are so strict with my food and maybe and now they're overweight and they eat horribly because they never developed that

for themselves. So those are two things you need to keep in mind. Yes, you need to feed your kids to give them, you know, to nourish them, to give them the nutrients they need to give them good food choices. And that's gonna contribute to how they eat later on as well. But number two, don't do it in a way where you're gonna, you're gonna create bad food relationship with your kids

because at some point they're gone. And then what are you gonna do? You can't control them at that point. So, with that, listen, go to YouTube. We post a new video every single day. Mind Pump TV. It's the best fitness channel on earth. You can also go to mindpumpmedia.com, check out our 30 days of coaching.

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