Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 489: Identifying & Avoiding Overtraining, Fat Grips for Grip Strength, Horrible Fitness Trends & MORE

Episode Date: April 12, 2017

Kimera-Quah! iTunes Review Winners! In this episode of Quah, sponsored by Kimera Koffee (kimerakoffee.com, code "mindpump" for 10% off), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about avoiding ov...ertraining, using fat grips to improve grip strength, training people who lose motivation and how to get them back on track and current favorite fitness trends and some of the worst fitness trends they have ever seen. Get our newest program, Kettlebells 4 Aesthetics (KB4A), which provides full expert workout programming to sculpt and shape your body using kettlebells. Only $7 at www.mindpumpmedia.com! Get MAPS Prime, MAPS Anywhere, MAPS Anabolic, MAPS Performance, MAPS Aesthetic, the Butt Builder Blueprint, the Sexy Athlete Mod AND KB4A (The MAPS Super Bundle) packaged together at a substantial DISCOUNT at www.mindpumpmedia.com. Make EVERY workout better with our newest program, MAPS Prime, the only pre-workout you need… it is now available at mindpumpmedia.com Have Sal, Adam & Justin personally train you via video instruction on our YouTube channel, Mind Pump TV. Be sure to Subscribe for updates. Please subscribe, rate and review this show! Each week our favorite reviewers are announced on the show and sent Mind Pump T-shirts! Have questions for Mind Pump? Each Monday on Instagram (@mindpumpradio) look for the QUAH post and input your question there. (Sal, Adam & Justin will answer as many questions as they can) Calling a woman a “girl” discussion (1:59) o   Identity politics o   Sensitivity / being offended o   Being manipulated Quah Question #1 – You guys are preaching not running your body into the ground and not over-training, so why the insanity in MAPS Aesthetic: Phase 3 (MAPS Black)? (16:49) o   More experienced o   Higher volume o   Listening to your body and modifying o   Run down vs Challenging Quah Question #2 – What is your take on FAT grips for strengthening grip? (28:00) o   Isolating strength in that range of motion o   Different hand positions / adaptation Quah Question #3 – Have you ever trained someone who has lost motivation for training? How to do counter this and get them back into fitness? (39:00) o   Coaching method o   Give people options o   Laying out expectations Quah Question #4 - What are your worst/favorite fitness trends? (47:43) o   Stability equipment as replacement for big lifts o   Introduction of circuit training o   Vanity o   Men’s/Women's Bodybuilding/Physique competitions o   Functional patterns o   Mobility trends o   Functional / Holistic practices Related Links/Products Mentioned “Sick of people calling women girls” (Article) The silent epidemic of male suicide (Medical Journal article) Census of Fatal Occupational Injuries (study) Wim Hof Method Certification (Mind Pump Media) Sal Di Stefano (Instagram) – “A Healthy Brain is Essential for a Healthy Mind” (post from April 10, 2017)  

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Starting point is 00:02:07 Did we talk about this on the podcast my my little situation? I had what the on it girls when I was at On it Academy. We did what? So I mentioned it tonight today on 94 9 this morning. They're talking about this and it's like a it's a big fucking deal and now it makes sense Why that girl said that to me here? I keep referring to what's a big deal? I'm not I'm a to refer to a woman as a girl. Oh, oh huge uproar about it that it's just so offensive and I you know what really I haven't really heard much about this. I'm sorry, but I think yeah There's some famous people tweeting about it and all the fun of the thing. What are they saying?
Starting point is 00:02:45 Oh God. That it's disrespectful. Oh please. And I think it's such bullshit, dude. I think it's one of those things that like, it depends on how you do it. Like if you do it in a manner that is like disrespectful, then of course, but you could say anything disrespectful
Starting point is 00:02:59 if you change your tone or what context it's in, right? So, like I was telling the thanks, I said thanks girls, and that's what she said that to me, and she got all, and I was just right over my head while that girl was offended. But you would say that if they're 70 years old. Yeah, it doesn't matter if they're 12 or they're 30, 50, that it does. Oh my God, I just pulled up and I just literally googled what you said, because I thought I'm literally thinking to myself, there's no way.
Starting point is 00:03:23 No, it's a big deal. It's a stupid, right? Yeah. And there's articles like the Guardian wrote myself, there's no way. No, it's like this is stupid, right? And there's articles like the Guardian wrote one, stop calling women girls. It's either patronizing or sexually suggestive. Oh my God. You know what, so here's a thing. Such bullshit.
Starting point is 00:03:36 I mean, it's so funny. No, it's, you know what it is? Okay, the person who wrote this is the one that has the problem. The person who's saying it's sexually suggestive, they're the ones with the sick mind because I can say guy, girl, man, woman, boy. Yeah, it doesn't mean anything.
Starting point is 00:03:53 What, why is that, what are you supposed to say, woman? Yeah, that's what the, I feel like that be more patronized. Hey, women's, yeah. Yeah, this woman over here, that sounds almost more dickish than my women. Thank you, women. That's so weird. Yeah, no, it's, it almost more dickish than my women. Thank you women. That's so weird
Starting point is 00:04:05 No, it's it's stupid and here's a thing. We're supposed a ladies girl I don't get it. Yeah, that's well remember that girl said ladies goddesses princess like she says like I'm like to me That's more condescending than fucks just saying. Yeah, thanks girls. Oh my god. The this article is I just want to punch it Girls the word girls screams gender segregated toys and the color pink. You know what's funny about this? Wow, dude. So you know what's funny about this whole thing?
Starting point is 00:04:31 Can we become any more fucking over sensitive? What's happening? It's not over sensitive. It's not that it's over sensitive. What it is is it gives the person who says this, it gives them power. So if I say to you, hey, hey, you can't say that cause that's offensive or that's sexist
Starting point is 00:04:50 or if it's not, you're clearly not being sexed but it gives me power now. Cause that's a very powerful thing. You shut you down. And what these fucking idiots don't realize is that what they're doing is they're trivializing a real thing. Like sexism is a real thing. Being patronizing is a real thing like sexism is a real thing being patronizing is a real thing
Starting point is 00:05:07 You know being slightly sexually suggestive or you know actually being a pervert those are real things But when you call everything that you make the real act of those things. Yeah, trivial That's a part that pisses me off because and that was what made me so upset when we were in on it when that when that when that I keep wanting to say when that girl when that woman said that human being yeah like that when that woman said that to me It just went right over my head because I was I actually was complimenting and thanking the girls that were actually making my She wasn't even part of the conversation. She just came out of left field. Yeah, excuse me sir. Yeah, like whoa To the point remember where I said I had to go back and I had to go ask the girls if that was offensive to them
Starting point is 00:05:49 and it was like, no, not at all. And I'm like, okay, I just want to make sure because that wasn't meant to be condescending. I didn't think I came off that way. In fact, I was complimenting, you know, it's so, that's such bullshit for people to see. It's, it's, it's, so what's happened? Your insecurities are fucking glowing.
Starting point is 00:06:04 I'll tell you, I'll tell you 100% what's happened with this whole thing. So what people need to realize with politics, because this is, this route, this goes back to politics, is that politics, politics in particular has a lot, a lot of money invested in the science of politics and how to divide people and get people to hate the other side and so that they vote for their side and What people don't realize is they're they're being manipulated like we we talk a lot about on this show in particular
Starting point is 00:06:35 About the the supplement industry the fitness industry and how manipulative they are with their marketing Well, you can multiply that times a trillion and that's politics. Right. Politics is way more powerful, has way more money and way more science invested because politicians are the ones that run shit. Big business wants particular politicians in there because they get favors, they get taken care of like, there's a lot of fucking money and power in politics and they invest a lot of money in figuring out how to get people to think and feel a certain way. One of the most powerful things you can do in politics is to make someone hate the other side or hate other people. It's far easier to do that than it is to make them really like your side. So, and this is a fact, like if you look
Starting point is 00:07:22 at when there's presidential election, for example, most of the money invested in it is not in making you like the side you want to vote for. It's in making you hate the other side. Right. And in fact, when you ask people, you know, if you tell people, God, both candidates suck, most people will be like, yeah, they do, but, you know, I'm voting for this person because they're not as bad as the other person. Like, they don't even realize they're being manipulated.
Starting point is 00:07:44 And what's happened with politics rather recently is they've created, or they really invest a lot of money in what's called identity politics. And identity politics are, let's segregate people into smaller and smaller and smaller groups and make them feel more and more and more like victims. And it's hard to talk about this because there are real issues here
Starting point is 00:08:08 that they are pulling upon, like racism, sexism, issues with homophobia or religious phobias. Those are real issues that exist, but it doesn't mean that these people won't take that and manipulate it and push it. And then when you try to argue it now, you're being labeled sexist racist or whatever a phobic or whatever. So it's very hard to debate, but the reality is these identity politics have are seeped into culture to the point now where it becomes a contest to go bypasses intent, you know, like for some reason we can't accept
Starting point is 00:08:46 somebody when they say something to us and understand what their intent is when they're describing that to us. Dude, it becomes offensive for you to tell someone, I don't really care what word you say as long as the intent is pure. But it just, it becomes offensive to say Merry Christmas, for example. Like, I'm not, fuck off. People know I'm not religious. I don't have a horse in this race at all. I don't really make a shit. But if someone says to me, you know, Merry Christmas, you don't get offended.
Starting point is 00:09:15 Or happy quanza or whatever, pick your thing and they're happy in life to say like 5 million things to accept, you know, I just, I just, I cover the basis. Why am I going get offended by that? If, you know, now the term boy girl, we've been using that forever, can it be used in a condescending way? Well, sure. I can go to you and I can come up to you and be like,
Starting point is 00:09:35 you're just a boy. That's all how you deliver it. Of course, you can use the term like sir and make it fucking inappropriate, right? It's not like condescending, it can be just as bad. If it could be worse. No, people do not, they don't realize they're being manipulated. get fucking inappropriate right? Exactly. It's condescending. It can be just as bad. If it could be worse. No, people do not, they don't realize they're being manipulated.
Starting point is 00:09:47 And what's happening is we are all fighting each other. We're all lemming. We're all trying to figure out who's offending who. You've got these like, what do they call these like, oppression, Olympics, where? Yeah, exactly. Who's the most oppressed, you know, individual? And you know, if you're, you know individual you know if you're you know this
Starting point is 00:10:05 why like you did you see the Dave Chappelle like stand up yeah I appreciate it so much is because you know he he just kind of went back is like you know we're being crazy with all this kind of stuff like let's let's get back to like let's not like you know get get so far out that we we stray away from the real problems and these things that we've been, people have been oppressed with a lot of these things, but let's not devalue it by just throwing it out there. And let's be, let's be careful with the pendulum, because this is what happens with culture,
Starting point is 00:10:35 in a modern culture, is that there'll be a problem, a real problem, and then they'll swing the pendulum so fucking hard to the opposite side that they've passed now, where they should be, and then they'll swing the pendulum so fucking hard to the opposite side that they've passed now. Where they should be, and then they cause another rebound. And it's this pendulum swinging effect that is damaging to everything from relationships to the people, the wrong people get elected,
Starting point is 00:10:58 given power, we end up making decisions that just don't. Do you think it's possible to not do that? I do, you do. I'll give you an example. Because we talk about this, that they're saying it's bad to say girls. So this is on the topic of sexism. Let's talk about that for a second.
Starting point is 00:11:15 Do people realize that the majority of suicides are done by men? Do people, a lot of people don't realize that. A lot of people don't realize that. A lot of people don't realize that the majority of people killed and wore as men, the majority of a massive amount of rape actually happens to men in prison is one of them. There's lots of issues that men go through injuries or fatal injuries on the job, very high for men. Now I'm not trying to create this this picture of like please you know poor man
Starting point is 00:11:46 You know whatever but what a case there but what happens is the pendulum swing so hard and then we we end up saying well fuck this these issues Like fuck these people. Well, that's a great example because I've heard more people bring up the topic of the word girl being used And I have anyone even bringing up that how many men are actually getting raped in jail That's that I mean or for committing suicide. I haven't seen any it up that how many men are actually getting raped in jail. That's, I mean, or committing suicide. I haven't seen any bloggers writing about that. I haven't seen anybody bring that up as a topic. There is a suicide epidemic in particular among men. Men are the ones that commit suicide at a far higher rate.
Starting point is 00:12:19 And people don't, they don't want to talk about the dangerous jobs. Most of the jobs that people do where they get hurt, injured, or killed are done by men. Now, again, I'm not doing a competition here, but when you take something that's real, like sexism, and you trivialize it by saying, don't use the word girl. And they're not even using context. They're just saying the word girl. Like, don't use girl in a condescending way. That's different. But don't just say the word girl. Let's eliminate that from the lexicon of American society because it's sexist Well, you know what that does the real sexism and trivializes it now everybody's like well fuck you
Starting point is 00:12:54 I'm not listening to anything you're gonna say yeah becomes totally ineffective. So yeah If you're I mean just be careful man who's manipulating you with your with real things real things. Because if you're in a category of people where they can make you feel like you're being taken advantage of or victimized more than you may be actually experiencing, that is a powerful, powerful tool that they will use to manipulate you. And remember this, don't forget this. Those people at the top, and by the way, the media is very much a part of that whole process and system. 100% you could go through and connect the dots.
Starting point is 00:13:32 It's not hard to do and see that there's very few powerful people that can, that can control most of this media, which is why they're scared of the internet, by the way. If you look at this and you really pay attention, it's obvious they don't really give a shit about you. All they wanna do is manipulate you. And one of the easiest ways to manipulate you is to make you feel like everybody hates you.
Starting point is 00:13:52 And put your head over the victim role, dude. I'm so fucking tired of hearing the victim role, it drives me crazy. What happened to anybody? Like what happened to you actually, maybe looking inside and reflecting like, why does that offend me? Yeah. Why does that offend me? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:06 Why does that bother me so much? Someone's referring to me as a small thing. What is that saying? And if that actually does bother me, because I'm sure there's somebody listening right now who's like, oh my God, I can't believe they're saying that. Oh, I think that's so disrespectful when someone does that. Okay, how about this? Why does that make you feel that way?
Starting point is 00:14:22 Why does a term like boy or girl, regardless? Let's say it even is condescending. Like how about looking at why that would make you feel that way and diving into that a little bit and looking at yourself work on that? Yeah, right? Instead of like, oh, blaming others. It's just a fucking first thing to do
Starting point is 00:14:38 is just get knee jerk reactions about everything. Yeah. It's just, it's not a word. It's not a word that has roots and like for example, there's racial slurs that have bad roots and I can understand those things. There's words that have roots that are very condescending, sexist, racist, whatever. But the word girl is not one of them. Or boy. Neither one of them. No, put them together. No. They're the same. So you put them together.
Starting point is 00:15:05 No, boy or girl. No, they're not. I mean, when you have a baby, people ask you, is it a boy or girl? I mean, you know, it's just not one of those words. So stop trying to make it one. I feel like you be a compliment. It's going to be a boy.
Starting point is 00:15:14 I still look like a boy. I feel fucking great. That's awesome. I'm like Peter Pan. I'm fucking 35 years old. See, and you just offended someone. Right? Because they're like, oh, a boy being a boy is fucking good thing.
Starting point is 00:15:23 What if somebody said, you know? Yeah. I mean, it's a good liberal voice. That's a, that's just an idiot voice. Trust me, they're on both sides. But I just, yeah, yeah. No, I know. Anyway, I just, it's, it's, it's funny because I think if people just realized how, how much more we had in common than we didn't, and how much power we had if we just realized that it's more effective for us to not try to separate ourselves so harshly and collectivize people and just kind of be like, okay, we're cool, whatever.
Starting point is 00:15:57 It's cool, man. And if I'm talking to you, I just wanna talk to you. I don't wanna worry about all these fucking words and shit. Like, you know, my intent and where I'm talking to you, I just want to talk to you. I don't want to worry about all these fucking words and shit. Like you know my intent and where I'm coming from, I'm not here to, you know, to throw stink in your day. You know, I'm just trying to talk to you, you know, stop being so offended. Exactly.
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Starting point is 00:16:51 Oh that was so offensive! Oh! First up is from Casey Joe eats well. You guys are always preaching we shouldn't run ourselves into the ground. So why the insanity in Maps aesthetic? Phase 3. So this is a good quote to little ground. So why the insanity in Maps aesthetic? So this is a good, it gets a little intense. It's an Easter egg. We put it in there to see if you guys have heard of it. Yeah. This is a good question. And this is also, this is why we do recommend the order of the programs.
Starting point is 00:17:21 So this is now somebody who possibly just dove into Maps Black. They've never done any of the previous programs. They've listened the show and they're not really worked out that much. Yeah, and they don't work that much and then they get into phase three of black. They're like holy shit. Like, but if you've actually gone through red, green, then black. It's actually there's a from red to green. There's already some serious progressive overload. Try phase four, yeah. So each program, we intensify as we go through it and we increase the volume. So there's actually a, but it's slow and gradual. That's over a course of nine months. And then if you notice that a phase like that is only three weeks long. So we would never recommend somebody stay
Starting point is 00:18:01 in that high of intensity for a long duration. And so, yes, absolutely, it's in there, absolutely. It was intended to be intense, but it's also only intended for you to do that for three weeks. I think it's important. We got to be clear, intensity, too much intensity is very individual. Okay, so when we preach about not running yourself in the ground That can look really different from one person to the next like if I take a high-level You know physique competitor and they've been training for a long time What's gonna be too much for them is gonna look very different than if I take somebody who's
Starting point is 00:18:44 You know hasn't worked out for a while or if I take an athlete versus a couch potato or if i take somebody who's been working out super intense for a long period of time and their body now is starting to hit the red line too much intensity might be not that much for someone else so it's very very individual maps aesthetic it like all of our programs was created with a specific intent
Starting point is 00:19:02 of adaptation aesthetic was created for, okay, here's what we do when we create our programs. We try to create, before we create the program, we create this, what is it called when you're playing a video game and then that's your character, Avatar. We create an avatar in our mind
Starting point is 00:19:20 of who's the person we're designing this program for. The avatar for maps aesthetic is somebody, number one, who's motivating, number one motivating factor is balance, symmetry, and aesthetics. And to be more specific, it would be, like what would be the embodiment of that and would be a stage presentation type competitor, a bikini competitor, a body builder, a physique competitor,
Starting point is 00:19:44 those types of people or people physique competitor, those types of people or people who train with those types of intentions. So that's number one. That's what map systetic was created for. Number two, it was also created to be a little bit more advanced. And I don't mean advanced in the sense that it's a, it's better advanced in the sense that people who are going to do or the people who are creating maps aesthetic for, probably will have, or you should use to hire volume. Yeah, they have a background, they have a longer background in working out,
Starting point is 00:20:12 consistently with more intensity and more volume. So those being said, maps aesthetic works perfectly for those types of people. Not all of them, I mean, again, if you're going into this and you're fucking not sleeping well, you've been working out and redlining for a long time, you've been at this calorie deficit for a long time, like you're probably better off backing the fuck off, going to maps and a ball, and starting with a program, like that and going into pre-phase, which in fact when people ask us questions, what they
Starting point is 00:20:37 should do, those types of people, that's what we say. Start with maps and a ball. So each one of the programs has their own, you know, specific types of adaptations that we're aiming for. And that means that they're going to be ideal for a lot of people and not ideal for other people. And with for those other people, then they go do the other maps programs. That's why our maps, super bundles, the RGB bundles, super bundle are created because we know that now you've got all these tools. What you really want is really, if you want to maximize your body's progress and progression and you want to make fitness
Starting point is 00:21:16 a lifelong pursuit, you want to build muscle, get stronger, burn body fat, move better, just feel better and consistently feel yourself progressing on many, many metrics over years and years and years. You wanna have a tool belt that you can open and say, okay, what does my lifestyle look like now? What are my goals? How is my body moving right now?
Starting point is 00:21:38 What are the things that I need right now? Okay, now that you've identified this thing. What have I been avoiding? What have I been avoiding? You've got all these things. Now you can go and open your tool belt and say, you know what, I'm gonna do a cycle of maps performance. That's what I need to go through right now.
Starting point is 00:21:53 Or I need to go through maps aesthetic. Or maps in a ballack is the one I need to go through. Or maps anywhere, I haven't done any of these, you know, closed chain bodyweight type movements. I'm gonna do maps anywhere. And if you approach your fitness intelligently like that, you are going to run into very few problems and you're going to maximize the positives.
Starting point is 00:22:13 And that's all working out and it really is, is minimize the negatives, maximize the positives, mitigate the potential problems, and think about the potential problems that can come from exercise, joint pain, dysfunction, recruitment pattern issues, overtraining, under-training, not getting, these are all the negatives. Well, you can really minimize those to a small degree and maximize all the positives
Starting point is 00:22:39 by looking at your toolbell, assessing yourself, and picking the right runs. So, if you're doing maths aesthetic, just look at your avatar example. If you were to look at these, almost like a video game, if you're looking at powers and you're looking at adaptations, like you're trying to fill each one of those bubbles and you look and you see where you're deficient, right? So I look, I'm not very powerful, I'm not very strong, you know, in this direction. And so you look at each one of these different adaptations, how can I fill those bubbles up?
Starting point is 00:23:09 And that's what our programs, that's what we focused on. We tried to make sure that we present each one of these characteristics, each one of these adaptations that we'll benefit the body. And you will know inherently what you have been focused on, whether it's mobility or whether it's even aesthetics for somebody like me. That's something I would have to constantly check myself.
Starting point is 00:23:31 I need to get back into more of that style training because it definitely benefits me and muscle endurance wise and all that kind of stuff. Actually, if you're in, to the person who's asking the question, if you're doing maps aesthetic you're in phase three and you feel run down, that is asking the question, if you're doing maps aesthetic, you're in phase three, and you feel run down, that is a very strong sign that it's too much for you. Now, there's a couple of things you could do with this. You could either eliminate the supersets
Starting point is 00:24:00 that are in maps aesthetic phase three. And by the way, we put supersets in there because phase three of Maps aesthetic is focused on maximizing the pump in your workout and working on a lot of strength endurance, both of which contribute quite a bit to an aesthetic physique when you combine it with the other phases. But if you feel run down, there's a few things
Starting point is 00:24:20 you could do in phase three. A, eliminate the supersets. So now treat them as straight sets but keep the reps high. So you're still gonna get the pump, some of the pump benefit. B, reduce the volume, so you're doing less sets,
Starting point is 00:24:34 or combine AMB, eliminate the supersets, and cut some of the sets down. Or C, if you're still feeling really fucking run down, get out of maps aesthetic, and go to Maps and Obolic, start in pre-phase, do about two weeks of pre-phase, and then go into either phase one or phase two, and then cycle back all the way back to the point. I think it's important, though, to note this,
Starting point is 00:24:57 because I know who this is, and I know that she's not like a brand new lifter. So being able to tell the difference between run down and challenging is important because I'll tell you right now if you don't train with supersets ever and then you introduce those, it's going to be fucking hard. It's supposed to be just like when I go into maps performance because I don't do a lot of multi-planar movements. So when I do like the lunch, the lunch matrix, I gotta reduce the weight to like hardly anything because it just destroys me. Now that's not because I'm like overtraining
Starting point is 00:25:31 and that's a signal to my body saying, I don't need to be doing this much. No, that means my body is not used to this adaptation at all and don't worry if I continue to progress through it, it will get used to that. So there's a difference too between, you know, oh my god, this is way overtraining. And like, so you're looking for like this crazy fatigue, really sore, like if you're overly sore, the days afterwards, those type of, those
Starting point is 00:25:56 are signs that you should try and reduce like sourcing. But if it's just fucking hard to get through it, well, that's because maybe you've been training a lot more like MAPS Santa Ballac phase one. If you've done lot more like MAPSANabolic Phase One. If you've done a lot of MAPSANabolic Phase One, so this would be like my power lifters, you know, that are doing a lot of singles, triples, maybe never ever going over five reps. Yeah, well, I throw them in a MAPS aesthetic
Starting point is 00:26:16 and I'm asking them to do eight to 12 reps and then I'm asking them to superset it and they're fucking just getting tired. It's fucking, yeah, that doesn getting tired. It's bad for you. That means that you're just not conditioned for that. Your body is trying to adapt. There's actually probably a lot of good things that's happened in your body, but learning to listen to those signals of what Sal was talking about is important.
Starting point is 00:26:37 Let's real quick, let's define, run down, or at least try to explain what we mean by run down. In the workout itself, if it's hard and you're getting challenged, that's nothing wrong with that. Of course, we don't want people to push themselves to failure and beyond frequently. That's usually not a good idea for most people, but the workout being challenging is fine. Run down means you're done with your workout.
Starting point is 00:27:04 It's the day after or it's little later in the day or it's before that and you're just fucking dead. You're tired, you're drag and ask, you're super sore, you need more coffee than normal, you're having issue sleeping, like that's run down. That's what we mean by like, okay, take a big step back because your body's just not able to keep up with or recover from the intensity
Starting point is 00:27:26 of the workout. You should feel energized throughout the day regardless of what your workouts look like. So even like Justin, for example, came in the other day and did just an intense ass, you know, hit type workout where in between sets, he was literally on the floor gasping for air. But after he caught his breath and the workout was over 30 minutes later, like he's fine. Bouncing around. Yeah, he's not like, oh my god, you know, what's wrong, Justin, while you on the couch laying
Starting point is 00:27:52 down, like, oh, I had a crazy hard workout three hours ago. Like, that's right. I'm not puking. Yeah, you don't want to be like that. No. Next up is UDS Cam. What's your take on fat grips for strengthening grip? Is that a real thing or a gimmick?
Starting point is 00:28:08 Once you understand how muscles get stronger, then you can see, here's a cool thing. Once you get it, I'm gonna break it down for you, hopefully this will help. But once you get it, when you look at all these different techniques, the next technique, the next, you know, new things in it come out, the next technique, the next, you know, new things in it come out, the next new things in it come out and you're going to be able
Starting point is 00:28:27 to see it exactly for what it is and what it will work for and what it won't work for. So it doesn't matter if it's fat grips or someone comes out with this new band technique or chains or use this, you know, grip here or, you know, do this lift this way. It'll all, it doesn't matter. It's all going to make sense to you because you'll understand how muscles get stronger. So just remember this fact right here. The strength that you gain in your muscles is relatively specific to how you train them.
Starting point is 00:28:55 So let me explain what that means. If I take my hand and I grip it to the point where, let's say I'm grabbing something that's very, very wide in fat, so my hand is not making a full fist, right? It's like a partial fist, and I grip it to the point where, let's say I'm grabbing something that's very, very wide and fat. So my hand is not making a full fist, right? It's like a partial fist, like I'm grabbing a really wide thick bar. It's okay, coffee can.
Starting point is 00:29:12 Or a coffee can. And I'm gripping that, and now I'm using isometric strength to hold onto that with heavy, heavy weight. The strength in my grip, most of the strength I'm gonna gain from that is, in that position. It's gonna be in that position number one, and number two, it's going to be mostly
Starting point is 00:29:27 isometric. Meaning, I'm going to have some carryover to closing and opening my hand strength, but most of it's going to be in that particular thickness of grip and for static hold, bottom line. So do fat grips strengthen your grip? Yes. They strengthen your grip in a new static hold position then with a smaller grip like your normal bar. That's what they do. Is there going to be some carryover to grabbing a regular bar? Yes, because you're getting stronger overall. Is it going to be tons of carryover? No.
Starting point is 00:30:02 Most of it's going to be in that new fat grip type of thing. So, if you're trying to get stronger grips, the thing I like about fat grips is you don't have to you don't have to like focus on training your grip, you could just throw them on the bars and challenge your grip and do your normal workout and now you're getting more grip. There's a lot of similarity between ranges of motion as well. I just achieved a new range of motion and it's in this specific spot that I'm targeting when I'm doing these isometric specific exercise
Starting point is 00:30:35 and poses and so that carries over because now if I'm really isolating this one part of the movement and I'm getting stronger and stronger in this, that it wasn't strong before, now when I'm going through that range of motion where I already had strength but was weak there, now that becomes a complete movement. So as far as the fat grip is concerned,
Starting point is 00:31:00 it brings more strength in that wide part of the hand grip. So now I'm closing. I still had that strength. It's like it's expanding upon, you know, what you already had. So. Yeah, I think it's a fun thing you can throw in there, especially if you're somebody that wants to,
Starting point is 00:31:16 you know, especially if you're an arm wrestler or a strong man competitor, or you just have a thing for strong grips. I do. I love training my grip. Throw on the bar, take yourself through a workout. The variation is good too. Yeah, it's gonna give you some variation, but I'll give you an example of what I mean
Starting point is 00:31:30 by specific how specific your strength adaptations will be. For years, I did pull ups with an overhand grip, so my hands were pronated. That's just the way I preferred to do it. And I also did lots of reverse curls and stuff like that. And just for whatever reason, I just enjoyed that position. And I got much stronger with pull-ups,
Starting point is 00:31:52 any pronated position to the point where if you threw weight around my waist, I would be able to lift more, pulling myself up with a pronated grip than I can with a supernated grip. Now, every sports physiologist and scientist out there will tell you that it's mechanically more advantageous to have a supernative grip. Now, every sports physiologist and scientists out there will tell you that it's mechanically more advantageous to have a supernative grip. And that may be the case, all things being equal, but they weren't all equal because I trained pronated.
Starting point is 00:32:14 So however you train is how most of that strain is going to be applied. So it always just comes down to that. It just comes down to see and volume. Now, knowing that, take that knowledge and look at all the exercises that you can do and all the different techniques and variations you can do on all those exercises. Now you can see how you can change,
Starting point is 00:32:34 you can do the same exercise, change the tension on it a little bit, looks the same, different stimulus, different adaptation. Yeah, grab the bar wider, that's a whole nother recruitment process. And it can even be less obvious than that. It can literally be like, I'm doing a bench press and I'm going to squeeze the bar with my hands harder or I'm going to yeah, pull my hands in together on the bar or push them apart on the bar like small
Starting point is 00:32:57 thing like that will give you different, you know, stimulation. I like them overall. The reason why I like them is because they're a cheap easy tool You know, it's something you could throw in your bag. It's small, you know I think adding it to your arsenal is awesome, but I don't think I think it's silly when I see guys that are Attaching it to all their exercises. Yeah, you wouldn't want to do it for too long anyway Yeah, yeah, it's it because too you're not going to be using them on everything that you do You're rarely ever in that grip position. But I mean, I think I typically do like the axle bar, like I rotated into my lifts all the time, like so, which is the fat bar. Yeah, the fat bar. A lot of like your golds, American barbell, your gyms like that tend to have, you know, those
Starting point is 00:33:39 a series or a set of different bars that are just a thicker grip and just doing all my regular movements, my dead lifts, my overhead pressing, my bench press, doing those with those bars every now and then kind of give that to me. That or just, I feel like when you are dead lifting heavy weight and you're just, it just kind of naturally progresses with it, you know, I think a lot of guys that have a hard time with grip strength are normally the guys that were using a lot of straps most of the time. And then now they're trying to go strap free. And it's like, well, you just haven't given your grip
Starting point is 00:34:10 some time to catch up. You were deadlifting, progressing your way, using straps for so long that now when you're trying to go back and do that, well, you should just know that you're not gonna go from. If you were a deadlifter for 400 pounds with straps, and you've never been strapless before, and now all of a sudden you get in there and you're at 200 pounds and
Starting point is 00:34:27 you can't even hold the bar. Well that's because you hadn't trained that adaptation like to stick with the deadlift bare-handed for long enough and you know this is what will happen. This reminds me when I was younger you know I would go to work with my dad a lot my dad worked in construction type jobs. He's a tile setter you know did stone work and I would go as a kid, and then when I got a little older, I didn't go for a while, and then I got into working out. So I started lifting weights. And one summer, I was probably 16 years old.
Starting point is 00:34:54 So I had been lifting weights for a little while at this point. I considered myself, I was pretty strong, I was a strong 16 year old, especially in my ability to do, you know, like a deadlift and stuff like that. But back then, I used straps. I used straps quite a bit back then. And I'll never forget going to do, you know, like a deadlift and stuff like that. But back then, I used straps. I used straps quite a bit back then. And I'll never forget to go into work for my dad and working with my dad and then he would have his helpers
Starting point is 00:35:13 who were these like, kind of skinny older guys who I was like, I'm definitely, I mean, if I arm wrestled them, it worked out with them. I was much stronger. And by the middle of the day, my hands were fucking fried. And these guys were carrying buckets of cement and sand and they were mixing cement and handling hammers and handling tools with their hand
Starting point is 00:35:33 and throwing mud up on the wall with these little trowels or whatever. And my hands were fucking fried. And I remember thinking to myself, like I work out all the time, I'm so strong, I've got more muscle than these guys. I can't believe how weak my hands are, and it didn't hit me back then, hit me much later as it became an adult, but thinking back to that, I don't think people realize just how strong your grip can get, like how much potential is in your hands. I mean, we did, after all, you know, evolve from, you know, monkeys basically.
Starting point is 00:36:06 So our hands are designed or evolved to be pretty, pretty fucking strong, especially isometrically. So, you know, using things like straps and like this stuff like that, you're really hindering this incredible ability that you have with your hands. And let me tell you, having a really strong grip comes in handy a lot. In fact, for everyday life, it's probably one of the more important things to have aside from having like a strong core and, you know, good tension throughout your body. Having a strong grip
Starting point is 00:36:39 makes a tremendous difference in your ability to do everyday tasks, moving couches and shit like that. So yeah, definitely, I'm not one of your first contacts, you know, to anything. So yeah, why wouldn't you? And that's so interesting. I remember thinking back to when we would train as a group for football or basketball or whatever, if we do group training, we were always taught
Starting point is 00:37:04 to use these wrist straps. And so I didn't really develop and grow that grip strength like I could have while I was getting all these gains from moving a lot of weight, you know, as I was growing up. So that's something that I had to catch up on, which was a misstep. You ever throw a hammer around for a whole day?
Starting point is 00:37:26 Throw a hammer lock. Yeah, go work on something. Oh, yay, yay, yay. How fucking destroyed her and she killed me, dude. I used to, I actually do a lot of lumberjack shit where all I was doing was chopping wood for like the whole neighborhood for like the entire summer. And do you, my hands would get so fried.
Starting point is 00:37:42 That explains all the flannels. Hey, you know what I'm excited about End of the month bro. Oh We've got Wim Hof coming coming in town. The Wim Hof certification. Yes coming here. You're ready to get cold as fuck or what? And super human if you don't know what Wim Hof is First of all, it's name. It's the it's the last name of a guy who or it's the name of a guy who has First of all, it's the last name of a guy who has developed this breathing technique that has gotten him to be able to control the automatic parts of his body, like controlling his body temperature.
Starting point is 00:38:13 And affect the immune system. Infected the immune system. Like it's pretty fucking amazing. Lots of science supporting it. We have a certification coming here at Mind Pump Media. This one I'm most excited about because we've got it, we had a chance to talk to some top athletes and you know, bio hackers and whatever.
Starting point is 00:38:33 Every single one of them says Wim Hof. Like they bring up all these different things that they do and they're like, Wim Hof is the shit. So I'm excited for this one. To sign up, you go to mindpumpmedia.com and go under the events calendar and then you can
Starting point is 00:38:45 enroll yourself in. It's April 29th in the 30th, so it's a Saturday and Sunday into the month. Definitely will probably fill up pretty fast, so if you guys haven't got on there and signed up, get to the website mindpumpmedia.com and then check it out. Next up is Calum Pancast. Have you ever trained someone that suddenly loses motivation for training? How do you counter this and get them back into fitness? All the time. It's probably more common than you probably have somebody who just like executes like in his motivated, right?
Starting point is 00:39:15 I mean, wouldn't you say so? Yeah, this is a tough one. I did have this happen less and less as I got better as a trainer. So back in the day, I remember thinking, you know, oh, it's just, I would put it on the person like, oh, they're losing motivation. It's a character flaw. They're lazy. You know, this is just what happens. I'm just going to get another client to fill in that spot. And then as they became a little bit more, I at least gained the ability to kind of say, okay,
Starting point is 00:39:42 what am I doing to this? Maybe I'm contributing to some of this. I realized that there was a couple things I was doing that would contribute to people losing motivation. One of them was the over application of intensity in my workouts. Like, people come in and say, I want to lose 30 pounds, I want to get in shape, so I train them really fucking hard. And I throw everything but the kids can seek at them in terms of exercising nutrition. And they would be super motivated.
Starting point is 00:40:05 They would come into every workout and they would tell me how much they loved it. But the inevitable fizzle out. The inevitably would fizzle out, either because they're fatigue tired or that's a level of intensity that would just require sheer will. And unless you absolutely love exercise,
Starting point is 00:40:20 you probably can lose that battle and they would end up stopping at some point. So that was one mistake that I had. The second mistake was that I would kind of make people feel bad for stopping their workout, so I would allow them to judge themselves. So you feed into the guilt of it. Yeah. And that's not really a winning battle, because eventually I remember thinking to myself a while ago,
Starting point is 00:40:47 I had it this one client who would train me three days a week, consistently three days a week. After about six months, then she kind of lost motivation, she went down to two days a week, and then she wanted to go down to one day a week. My response was early in my career, my response to her was, well, it's not worth it. If you're not going gonna come once a week, don't come to the gym anymore. Like just that's ridiculous. You can't get motivated to come to the gym.
Starting point is 00:41:09 I would tell them in each. Yeah, I'd tell her all these things. Like, look, you have time after work or before work and my schedule's open for you. You know, but if you don't wanna make the time, then just wait till you're ready. And I was just kind of putting it on them, thinking that would motivate them.
Starting point is 00:41:21 And of course, it didn't. And then one of my friends, who's really, really good coach, told me and said, well, how did that work out for you? And I'm like, well, they never came back. And I said, okay, well, maybe, maybe if you think, if you kind of consider that one day a week with you, it was better than no days a week. So you really haven't helped them. I remember thinking like, oh, fuck. That's interesting. Yeah. You're right. It totally does. like if you start to pull back and and reflect on like how you're coaching them Like you could see how because I noticed that too if I'm a little bit more
Starting point is 00:41:56 Hard, you know as far as like oh, you're not hitting these marks and All these things I'm trying to explain a lot of the missteps and not really focusing on how we can reframe this. So it's like, it's more of an inviting environment where they're there to thrive. They're already there to improve themselves. Why am I hammering them for all these missteps and why am I not highlighting and taking a different angle
Starting point is 00:42:26 and showing them where they are hitting marks? So yeah, I had to assess the same thing where it was either intensity or I just felt like maybe it was something that happened to them, it was a life moment. Maybe they're having some kind of crisis that I didn't even know about, but I was just too focused on like getting their goal
Starting point is 00:42:46 and getting them in shape. And you have to be a little bit more empathetic and you have to understand the psychology a little bit more in depth to really reach a lot of these people that are struggling through other things in life, not just fitness. Well, give them options and think about this way. When I got to the point when my clients called me
Starting point is 00:43:07 and wanted to come in because they were stressed, because they were tired, because they hurt, had a back ache or didn't sleep well last night's salient. If I come in and see you an extra day, once that started happening, people became extremely consistent, they became extremely consistent. They didn't stop. Nearly my drop off rate was reduced dramatically.
Starting point is 00:43:30 I mean, you gotta give people options. Like if I have a client that stops coming in and all have a conversation, I was like, look, you haven't been, it looks like we've missed about three workouts. Are you super busy, you stressed out? If that's the case, here's what I wanna do. I want you to come in and we're not gonna lift weights.. What we're going to do is we're going to do some
Starting point is 00:43:47 stretches. I'm going to do some mile fast release with you. We're going to do a hike. And I want to help you feel better. And then all of a sudden people are like, wow, that sounds like a great idea. Like I think I want to do this. And you just give them more options and the consistency went through the roof. But you still, I mean, there's still going to be people who are going to I mean, there's still gonna be people who are gonna stop and there's nothing you could do about it. I'll tell you that the number one mistake that I used to make and the biggest game changer for me was laying out
Starting point is 00:44:15 the expectations. I think that with all the social media, with all the marketing and advertising and all the shit that's out there that most people when they hire you their expectations are extremely out of whack. Like they're so far out because you see all these 30 days get shredded and oh my girlfriend lost 40 pounds by taking this pill and oh this person did this and so then they come in they hire a trainer and their head they're going well I well, I'm going to get a professional to help me. So I should be able to get those results or even potentially faster.
Starting point is 00:44:49 And so I think the mistake that I made as a trainer was they would hire me and then I would just go about my training and then I would just assume that they would piece that together instead of learning how to lay it out for them. So I have this big, old, long spiel that I do when somebody hires me and I'm setting the tone for like we're barely going to see the scale move. This is what we're going to be working on. This is how you're going to feel. This is what you need to understand. So when I set the tone like that, then when they get into their, because what happens, the reason why people fall off and they lose motivation is because,
Starting point is 00:45:28 let's be honest, it's just like going to work. If you went to work every single day and you went for two weeks and you opened up your paycheck, and in your head, you had a salary or you made $50 an hour and you get your paycheck after working two full weeks and you get $10, how fucking pissed are you? And how long do you keep going to that job? But if your boss told you that,
Starting point is 00:45:48 hey, guess what, you're not gonna make any money working for me right now, because we need to put all this work in first. And then you actually received a little bit of money at that pay period after two weeks, how pumped are you? So when you set the expectations really low for what they should expect, and then you over- over deliver as a trainer.
Starting point is 00:46:05 It's a lot easier to keep them motivated through the entire program. And a lot of people just don't understand that when you first hire on, you first get me as a trainer that there's a lot of things that we have to work on and fix before we actually get to the goal, right? The goal is like the pretty part of the house. That's the shutters, that's the four bedrooms, that's the chronic countertops, but we have to lay a foundation first. And so just like if I were to build a house for you
Starting point is 00:46:29 and you can do it and you say, hey, I wanna move in next week and we're like looking at a pile of dirt. I'm gonna look at you, be like, that's fucking crazy. And anyone that tells you otherwise is gonna build a shit house for you. So the same thing goes for your body is when someone comes in, they hire me and I say,
Starting point is 00:46:43 listen, we've got this, we gotta work on, we we got this, we got to do, this is what we should expect. This first week, you're going to feel like this, you're going to think this is what's happening, this is what's really going on. That's okay, I want that, that's a good sign. In fact, if you draw, I know you want to lose 30 pounds, but if I assess you after two weeks and we're down five and you're excited, I'm upset.
Starting point is 00:47:06 That means we're not doing what we're supposed to be doing right now. I don't want to see that weight loss right away. So when you lay out these expectations and you draw them a picture of like, this is what the entire process is going to look like with me. And they understand that it's not what they see on TV. It's not all these gimmicky shit ads and social media things that they see in real life and real health and fitness and what it's gonna be for longevity and how you're gonna keep these results. We have to go through these steps and it's going to look this way. Most people just have no clue
Starting point is 00:47:36 and so they lose motivation when they don't get what they think because they what they've seen and what they've been marketed to. what they think because they've seen and what they've been marketed to. Mine to muscle. What is one of your favorite fitness trends and one of the worst ones you've ever seen in your career? This one's easy for me. Oh, wow, it's here. I can tell you, in the worst, the worst fitness trend that I saw in my fitness career was when personal trainers went
Starting point is 00:48:00 fucking ape shit with stability stuff. When they went nuts with stability stuff. When they went nuts with stability stuff, like there's definitely a place for stability, unstable surfaces and stability type training, definitely. But man, the trainers take that shit to the next level. Like people were doing everything dude. They were doing everything like curls
Starting point is 00:48:25 while standing on one foot on a dyna disc and shoulder presses balancing on a wobble board. But it wasn't something that they used strategically. It became the entire workout. Like that's all that was. And it also became, and their minds better than or a replacement for other workouts. I remember trainer saying, oh, squats,
Starting point is 00:48:49 you know, squats on a wobble board, so much better than traditional barbell squats. Like that's just do that, don't do the barbell squats anymore. And I would scratch my head, because, you know, I knew that there's definitely a place for it, but you can't replace your good old-fashioned power generating movements that are gonna give you all this carryover. Right. So for me, but you can't replace your good old-fashioned power generating movements that are going to give you all this carryover.
Starting point is 00:49:07 So for me, that was just one thing that, and probably because right around that time, is when I was really in the corporate gym world, so that's the trend that I saw just sweep. It was like at a nowhere, man. It was like all of a sudden, everything became that, and it was just something that really got on my nerves. Are we going to say all of the rounds say the ones we don't like we gonna say all we all been going around say the ones we don't like first? Okay, all those we don't like so I think the worst one that I've seen is the the introduction of circuit training when curves and express zone very
Starting point is 00:49:40 rapidly turned into CrossFit. I knew I was serving that one up for you. Yeah, when we started talking about that, you could build and burn more, you could burn more fat, build more muscle in a shorter amount of time. Now it has become this, you see it all time too, it just pains me when I look over
Starting point is 00:50:02 and I see this guy or girl who's carrying 50 pounds overweight and they're just they're jumping rope and then they're doing a bench press and then they're doing some dumbbell rows and then they're doing jump lunges and I'm almost like oh my god dude like I want to die just watching that and I just know where that's heading for that person like I can see I can see it on their face while they're training. They're so determined, they're so pushed. And that's like gonna get them to like 15, 20 pounds off. And then they're not gonna know where the fuck to go from there. And it's like an epidemic in the industry.
Starting point is 00:50:35 It's just got, and Justin's right, it's turned into a sport. You know, it's gotten so great, which is fine. That's where it belongs. It belongs as a sport. It doesn't belong as a way of training. It does not belong as a way of getting in shape or helping somebody that really needs that. Since majority we know, over 80% of the clients that I've ever trained are my middle-aged
Starting point is 00:50:53 soccer mom who needs to lose 30 to 40 pounds, has all kinds of muscle imbalances and postural issues or surgery that they've had. That is like the average client. Yeah, and then you throw them in a circuit? Yeah. It's probably the worst throw them in a circuit? Yeah. It's kind of the worst thing you could do. I know. So to me, that was the worst thing that ever hit the fitness industry.
Starting point is 00:51:10 And it's not to say that you can't do a circuit training or doesn't have its place. I'm not saying that. But I'm saying for the majority of people and then how many people we see doing it, just like a majority of people that I see doing CrossFit that don't belong in CrossFit because they're not ready for that type of thing. Okay, now I'm going to take this onto the other end of the spectrum. We're going to talk about vanity. of people that I see doing CrossFit that don't belong in CrossFit because they're not ready for that type of thing. Okay, now I'm going to take this onto the other end of the spectrum. We're going to talk about vanity.
Starting point is 00:51:29 Okay, so my issue to what I see... Bring it just to me. Being a fucking huge problem is preaching all these... Basically, you're talking about people that have massive insecurities and we're supposed to look like certain people. So we glorify these models and these people that do by any means necessary to achieve a specific look. And so, you know, that has nothing to do with being healthy and fit and optimal and moving and being efficient and
Starting point is 00:52:07 working with your body. So I'm looking at things as a picture and a portrait and this is a glorification of a body type that might not even be my body type, but people will just fucking kill themselves to look a certain way. And, you know, so you'll see these exogenous steroids and all these different, mean, any means necessary, we're gonna get to this level and we're gonna look this look.
Starting point is 00:52:35 And it's an obsession and it's just, it's the wrong message. And so you get from both sides, it's the hammering like Adam saying as far as the intensity goes is way extreme Well, and then the vanity is way extreme and it's these these poor girls now It's even worse because it's not even fitness related. It's just people getting surgery and getting massive asses out of nowhere You know just just to get like millions of people to look at their ass
Starting point is 00:53:03 Well to piggyback off of that shit is the, it's a same culture are the same ones responsible too, which I could have went this direction is all the sideways chest press and the fucking bands on machines and all these like crazy things that you see these people that are being glorified are putting in their routine either because they're trying to sell something or whatever it may be or
Starting point is 00:53:29 Maybe that person actually has a reason why they're trying to work on this tiny little muscle responsible for a tiny little bit of a movement because they're about to get on stage and present their body But now I've got all these 17 to 20 year old kids that are doing all these ridiculous Movements on machines that have no business doing that because they're nowhere near that level of training to where they need to be focusing on a tiny little muscle that isolates a tiny little movement on your body, they should be doing those big gross motor movements like deadlifting, squatting, overhead pressing. So that same culture is feeding into that too, which is annoying as fuck. You know what sucks is, so this, well, it kind of sucks, it's kind of cool. In the past, when I would look at a bodybuilder, a physique competitor, a bikini contest, you know, competitor, whatever, and I'd
Starting point is 00:54:10 see them on contest day, for example, when they're the most depleted and shred and all that stuff, I used to look at them and be like, oh shit, that looks awesome. Like, I would really like to look like I look so fucking sick, right? There's so, but now it's very difficult for me because now all I see is I hate to say it and is disease and dysfunction and I know knock at anybody who competes I think it's I think it's in order to compete it I can get on stage your knowledge of your body and how to manipulate every small detail is incredible and I think that's pretty cool to know that kind of stuff but when I look at their bodies and how they're skin
Starting point is 00:54:48 and how they care, and anybody who competes will tell you, they feel like shit on competition day. There isn't a single competitor that's gonna tell you, oh, I'm my most fit and healthy, the day of my competition, I'll tell you that's their absolute worst health. And I look at it, I just see disease in dysfunction now. That's all I see now, I can tell, I can pick the things out.
Starting point is 00:55:05 And it sucks because I almost can't enjoy it like I used to. You know what I mean? Like, you know, we've been to contests where I've seen these bikini girls like backstage sitting down in the hallway. Like they look like they're about to fucking die and they're eating like a rice cake or something, you know, or some sugar to try and, you know, they think they're gonna pull out their muscles a little more, whatever.
Starting point is 00:55:26 And I'm looking at them going, oh my God, that's horrible. Like that's really, really bad. Well, I think that part of it inspires me because I know there's a lot I can do to help those people. I feel like there is a way to compete and get to that level without it being so unhealthy. I mean, and I used to talk about it when we used it when I used to vlog my, you know, journey to getting ready for stage that, hey, the whole process leading up to getting on the stage is very healthy and totally fine. And when I hit about 10 to 14 days out, you didn't hear me transition in my vlogs saying, okay,
Starting point is 00:56:01 this is the part where now we are entering a sport. It is not ideal for my body, but I'm going to push my body to another level to get a look that the judges are looking for on stage, but talking to the audience and saying, listen, the methods, the things that I'm going to take my body through these final 10 days or so it's not ideal. It's not ideal at all whatsoever for overall health. And I think know, and I think there's ways that if you do it right, you could argue that for that short period of time, it could be healthy if done correctly. The problem is, you know, 95% plus of them are not there.
Starting point is 00:56:38 They're hiring coaches that are coaching 30, you know, other athletes that are all getting similar diets and similar workout routines and similar cardio recommendations and it's a fucking disaster. And it's getting worse. I had somebody contact me about her nutrition. She was wondering why she wasn't having her period.
Starting point is 00:56:58 She felt horrible. She's having skin, like basically just a list of things wrong with her, young girl. And I said, well, what does your nutrition look like? She's like, well, this is what I was eating for the last six weeks, and it was frightening. It was like 10 to 15 grams of fat a day, in like around 50 grams of carbs, and that was all protein. And I told her immediately, I'm like, listen, you need
Starting point is 00:57:23 to eat some carbs and some fats and go to the doctor and get tested and get checked because that was extremely damaging. What you just did, you just put your body through, it was very, very damaging. You've got no essential fatty acids or very little. Your body isn't running off of carbs either because it's so low. So all you're doing is taking, is running off protein and you need to go make sure everything's in balance and then start bumping those things up. So it is a crazy world,
Starting point is 00:57:46 but Adam, the way you position it is, I mean, it's beautiful, right? It is a sport, like all sports, there's an unhealthy component to it, understanding that I think is real important. As far as favorite fitness trend. Yes, talk about positive stuff. I'll tell you what, one of my favorite fitness trends is,
Starting point is 00:58:02 and I think the pendulum went real far in one direction with this, but now it's kind of balanced out, is the functional patterns. I was just gonna say the same thing right now. I really like it. Now when it first started, the pendulum went too far in that direction, it became like mimicking everything you do
Starting point is 00:58:17 in everyday life with weights. And, you know, so, which I think is wrong because I think that there are movements you do specific to weights that have tremendous carryover to the rest of your life. Most of every day life, you're not going to squat with something on your traps, like a barbell will, right? But barbell squats are fucking amazing, and they give you lots of carryover. But now that the pendulum's kind of come in the middle, I love how people are adding
Starting point is 00:58:42 to their routines, kettlebell training, macebell training, club stuff, you know training, body weight movements, movements on the floor that mimic animal, you know, type patterning, people are now working on strengthening their feet, you saw that train start to come up a little bit like, I love that kind of stuff because it's helping people progress their fitness to newer and newer levels and it's giving people progress their fitness to newer and newer levels and
Starting point is 00:59:05 it's giving people more and more tools. So I'm going to go with you with the whole mobility movement, but I'm also going to caution those at the same time because like every other trend that I've liked that you've seen in the fitness industry, it just, we can't help but put people in a tribal. You fucking a it's tribal. Let's be on tribal. In fact, I guarantee most of you that have a mobility specialist guy that you follow, look at his page.
Starting point is 00:59:33 I mean, I guarantee that's all he does. You know, like, and here's the thing, like like everything else, and that I'm gonna go with that one, because I'm with you, Sal, on that like 100% believe that. Yeah, it is. It's one of the most beneficial things that people can be incorporating.
Starting point is 00:59:49 It's probably got some of the most carryovers for just overall healthy movement patterns and everybody needs it in their life. And if you don't care about building a lot of muscle and strength and you're just so heavily focused on movement, this is what you should be primarily focused on. That being said, you start to get these camps and these guys that now all of a sudden will hate on everything else and it's all about movement and then you take it to these crazy
Starting point is 01:00:20 animal flow patterns and that's all they do. Even though I'm going to say it's my favorite, I also caution you that, you know, don't let yourself fall into the dogma of, it's the way, you know, and it's the only way. It's like, it's a, it's a, another tool in your belt, and it's probably one of the best tools
Starting point is 01:00:39 that I have found in the last probably 10, 15 years. So I'm gonna go with that being my favorite, but again, I caution people because it's very hot and trendy right now, and it's on its rise, and you sure as shit we'll probably see it go the all the way. Well, so- They're gonna cheat you guys,
Starting point is 01:00:55 I'm gonna kinda bring it more on the nutrition side. Like, what I'm really excited about is the adoption of things like functional medicine, like holistic health, like these kinds of practices that have, or paleo diets, get it all natural. They focused more on the quality of food and then how it's gonna actually affect your body
Starting point is 01:01:16 and your systems and your metabolism and how you're gut health and how all these things interact with each other. It's not just about how many calories have you consumed today? What's your macro balance? That shit is fucking elementary. We need to move past that way of thinking with the fitness community. We need to think further out.
Starting point is 01:01:41 We need to think how this is going to affect our health, well-being, how this is all going to play out to, you know, cron... Like, if you think about eating, it's a chronic repetitive process. So this is always happening. I'm always consuming, you know, every day. That's going to affect you and that's going to affect the quality of your life later on. And so, I feel like, you know, we're just now starting to think a little further ahead and not just think about
Starting point is 01:02:07 Look at my fucking abs. Look at you know, look at this PR. I just did like that shit is done That's that that's that's dead to me. You know, I'm so glad you brought that up I did a post a Instagram post. I think it was a brain health. Yeah, because We don't everybody connects food to how they look, like so aesthetics, right? Halina am, maybe strength and performance, but they don't connect it to wellness in the total body, and they especially don't connect it to their mind.
Starting point is 01:02:37 And when I speak of the mind, I'm speaking separately from the brain. The brain is an organ, so I can take a brain out, and I can take a brain from a corpse and place it on the table and you have a brain, but there's no mind there, right? The person's not alive, there's no consciousness. There's no psychological phenomena.
Starting point is 01:02:54 That's the mind, and we forget, and I wanna do a whole episode actually on this, is I wanna talk about how having a healthy brain affects your mind, and a lot of people don't realize this, but everybody knows we're in an obesity epidemic. Everybody knows we're in a diabetes epidemic and a heart disease epidemic. Nobody talks about the mental health epidemic,
Starting point is 01:03:14 or I call the epidemic of the mind. Like, I just read the statistic the other day, but anxiety documented anxiety when people will go to the doctor and complain about having actual anxiety. In 1980, it was something like 4% of the population. It's over half now. Documented anxiety when people will go to the doctor and complain about having actual anxiety in 1980 was something like 4% of the population. It's over half now now Some people can say well we're reporting more of it now and I agree we probably are reporting more of it now
Starting point is 01:03:35 But that's a cop out and that's a fucking stupid cop out that Western medicine loves to do whenever they see a trend of Bad health. They say oh, it's because we're noticing more of it now. Yeah 50% of the population? No, I'm sorry. When depression is going through the roof, anxiety is going through the roof. All these mental health issues go in the roof and it's mirroring our obesity and process food consumption,
Starting point is 01:03:57 all this other shit. You gotta look at that and say they're all tied together. So can you get lean and look aesthetic, just following macros and calories, yes? Are you gonna be good good and well? No. And so look at that. Look at those things and pay attention. They definitely make a huge impact. Love that. Listen, 30 days of coaching, it's available for free. Still at mindpumpmedia.com. All you got to do is opt in every day, you'll get an email with new information and links to episodes where we talk in depth about particular topics.
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