Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 491: Future of VR & AI in Fitness, Training with Adrenal Fatigue, Correcting Asymmetrical Recruitment Patterns & MORE
Episode Date: April 14, 2017In this episode of Quah, sponsored by Big Top Beard Company (bigtopbeardcompany.com, code "mindpump" for 33% off), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about asymmetrical soreness and asymmet...rical recruitment patterns, the impact of VR and AI on fitness and Mind Pump, training with adrenal fatigue and how the name Mind Pump was born. Get our newest program, Kettlebells 4 Aesthetics (KB4A), which provides full expert workout programming to sculpt and shape your body using kettlebells. Only $7 at www.mindpumpmedia.com! Get MAPS Prime, MAPS Anywhere, MAPS Anabolic, MAPS Performance, MAPS Aesthetic, the Butt Builder Blueprint, the Sexy Athlete Mod AND KB4A (The MAPS Super Bundle) packaged together at a substantial DISCOUNT at www.mindpumpmedia.com. Make EVERY workout better with our newest program, MAPS Prime, the only pre-workout you need… it is now available at mindpumpmedia.com Have Sal, Adam & Justin personally train you via video instruction on our YouTube channel, Mind Pump TV. Be sure to Subscribe for updates. Please subscribe, rate and review this show! Each week our favorite reviewers are announced on the show and sent Mind Pump T-shirts! Have questions for Mind Pump? Each Monday on Instagram (@mindpumpradio) look for the QUAH post and input your question there. (Sal, Adam & Justin will answer as many questions as they can) Adam's TSA experience (5:06) --United Airlines Debacle --Police Officer body cams --Transparency is key Quah Question #1 - Does asymmetrical soreness indicate asymmetrical imbalances? (25:54) --Use dumbbells to find imbalances --Unilateral training Quah Question #2 – How do you see VR (Virtual Reality) tech and AI (Artificial Intelligence) impacting the fitness industry and Mind Pump? (35:13) --Online coaching exploding --Group training exploding --Devices that can measure how your body reacts to food, etc. instantly --Anything that can be free, will be free Quah Question #3 – What are your thoughts on training with adrenal fatigue? (47:28) --Leaky gut syndrome --Eliminating gluten --Traditional strength training, NEAT, probiotics, no cardio --Eat cooked vegetables Quah Question #4 – How did they come up with the name Mind Pump? (55:02) Related Links/Products Mentioned United Airlines Viral Video (YouTube) MPTv “How to build your butt” series (YouTube) People Mentioned: Robb Wolf Tom Bilyeu
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Taylor told us that we need to do something for Easter
like an Easter egg hunter.
It is.
It is.
No, he wants us to do something fun and engaging
with our audience.
So he says like an Easter.
For Easter?
Yeah, he wants to do some sort of an Easter egg hunt.
I look, oh.
I'm just going to, I say we just let him run it
and be in control of it because I,
why are they going to get, what do you mean, Easter egg hunt?
I try to wrap my brain around it.
I just don't have, and he's just like,
no, don't you get it?
He's trying to explain to me.
Oh, he's saying the Instagram page.
Yeah, yeah.
That's what he said.
Yeah, yeah.
So there's gonna, oh, so you know what Easter eggs are?
Did you guys know this?
Yeah, you did.
I'm sure you did.
I'm the fucking guy that never knows the shit.
Easter eggs are like little hidden things
on movies and video games, right?
Yeah.
Isn't that what that is?
Yeah, so they call it, yeah.
And like, there's whole channels like devoted
to finding these little Easter eggs that you go back
and you're like, oh wow, like the director or whoever put all this imagery in the background
so nobody would pick up on it.
Here's a fun fact.
Fight Club.
You guys watch the guys like Fight Club?
Yeah.
Love it.
Do you know that there's a lot of scenes where there's a flash of what's his name, Brad Pitt,
that character plays?
Yeah.
Just flashes like very good. You go back, you start to practice. When you go back, you see it and you're like, and you look back and name, Brad Pitt, that character plays. Just flashes like very, when you go back, you start to recognize it.
When you go back, you see it and you look back
and like, oh, fuck, there he is.
It's like Momento.
Yeah, that's a great hit.
Okay, so what's going on,
there's gonna be Easter egg hunt on our Instagram page.
Yeah, so he's gonna do a on mind pump media.
So if you go to the Instagram mind pump media,
every day he said he's gonna do like a, um, he's gonna have two eggs,
I guess, and he's gonna do giveaway stuff. So if he,
but they have to see it on the story in order to get it. So I don't know how is it?
It's the Instagram story. Yeah, yeah.
So you have to, and it's every day new, new eggs, or is it all on one day?
No, every day he said he's gonna do two different eggs.
And he's gonna surprise us and know them. Obviously everybody with what is going to be in the Easter egg. And there's going to be, he's gonna give two different eggs and he's gonna surprise us and know them obviously everybody with what is gonna
Be in the Easter egg and there's gonna be he's gonna give away something like it's he's all just and he doesn't want to tell us because
He says it'll be more natural for us to do it with him if he just says listen just trust me
We're gonna give away some cool stuff. It's fine. I'm getting excited. I
Want over the other what's this? I'm not even
Puffy's mother fucker doing that's sure like, is he gonna give away so sorry chocolate?
So every day leading up to you see what is it Easter day? I guess most obviously most people will yeah
Easter day Easter Sunday most
People in their family. So he said starting on Thursday
So when this episode goes live because this goes live for today, right? Yeah Thursday. Okay, so today today
So it should be there now, right? So should we go there now? This is so funny because this goes live today, right? Yeah. Thursday. Okay. So today, today, so it should be there now, right?
So should we go there now?
This is so funny, because we're saying it before, right?
So today, if you go on to the Instagram,
mine pump media page, follow that page,
and then watch the Insta Story.
The Insta Story.
A lot of people don't know this.
I gotta just click on the icon on the top left.
Yeah.
And you'll see like a short video.
I just learned how to use it the other day.
He's so good. I'm so advanced. Yeah, so happy Easter and happy hunting for the Easter eggs
Look forward to I'll be on there watching to hopefully if he's smart because he works for us
You'll actually give me something to so otherwise job. Yeah
Like that comment
Taylor gives Taylor gets thrown in the mix
Hey, let's me don't give a fuck
Uh, T-dog
We love him
No, you can't
No, you gotta use to that on air
Just to normalize them
Just to that I agree to him
Man, if you're lucky, you can
You know what, are mine pop-off yet?
They'll be able to come up with a better nickname
I'm pretty certain
Remember cuz I mean Doug he was do you know that was the first the spinner?
What else we got the walking terrorist the
Chimp yeah spinner
The funny the funny part was that you and I were making fun of we were making fun of Sal for calling him such a terrible
Yeah, and that's gonna turn around the backfire and pour funny. T-Dog.
You know what I'm saying?
I was just like, dude, that's still gonna
imagine your boy, you know, like your,
waiting and waiting.
Wait it ninja batman, bro.
Hey, yo T-Dog, last.
Can you tell us a little bit about Adam,
the go way back?
We go way back.
My friend, you know what I'm sure you've known him for a while
because that's how the good thing about him.
Your mom didn't call you that.
Sal said this to Taylor over the weekend.
Some clever guy.
When we went to LA and Justin and I instantly burst it out laughing.
I couldn't help laughing for like three hours.
Three hours.
Oh, we did Justin did all these great fucking rants afterwards to making fun of Sal for even giving someone
a terrible nickname like that.
And then he keeps saying it.
So now he's like, you know what, we're going to make it that.
And I'm like, yeah, like this is not poor Taylor is going
to suffer through this awful nickname that's how came up with.
So it's so old.
It's like, like I got a sign full episode.
So make sure that's who actually be giving us each.
So make sure to thank T-Dog guys.
Thank T-Dog, my big upset T-Dog.
So my pump media, they go in the video part,
right there, my homey T-Dog.
And look for the Easter eggs.
Happy Easter.
If you wanna pump your body and expand your mind,
there's only one place to go.
Mind, up, mind, up with your hosts.
Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews.
He's a good, he's a good.
Hey, dude, can I just crazy right now?
What's crazy right now?
Well, it's not right now.
Oh, but just crazy.
Today, there's no time for it.
It has to be crazy, though.
So you can't say that word.
This is why, this is weird, right?
Unless it's today's Wednesday.
When do we fly back in the town?
When do we get back in the town?
Sunday? Yeah, Sunday, right? What do we get back in the town? Sunday?
Yeah.
Sunday, right?
What?
So when we were in LA, Justin remember?
I still, I still, I still, I still, everybody got it.
You know what?
I'm getting worse.
The more people who make fun of me, I guess the about.
Well, we're gonna, no, we're gonna talk about that subject.
Steel, but I want you to finish the deal.
I want you to finish the deal.
Fuck, fuck.
You're gonna lose the game.
You're gonna lose the game. You're gonna. You'll listen. You'll finish the bus.
You'll stop.
You'll stop.
Keep going.
And then we'll move on to something else.
I still feel a little violated from Sunday, man.
What do you mean?
The TSA, dude, that was, that was, that was, that was different for me.
Dude, he was grabbing hog.
Dude, he was, he was, I mean, it's, well, I took, so I had this conversation with him.
That's what you told him. You know what know what you know it we joked about it on Sunday
We laughed about it. We moved on from it. I had I had a
Remember what I told you guys that you know anytime I have this state change right whether be funny
What it be nervous whether be excited you examine I examine right so
Yeah, you got to start you gotta tell a story. Yeah, so okay, so it happens it to you said film to you
So we filmed the whole thing. Okay, so yeah, you asked hold you you gotta tell a story. Yeah, so okay, so what happens at T-M? You said film, too, it's just great.
So we film the whole thing.
Okay, so, yeah, he asked, hold you,
I already posted a lot of it.
It's a good thing Justin was the one carrying the drugs.
Yeah.
In my butt.
So on the way, where do we just fly?
LA, so we just, we just flew down to LA.
Which by the way, LA, beautiful, beautiful place.
But what a shit hole, anyway, I'm sorry.
Is it a beautiful house? Oh well, come on. That's true, and then we've edited some friends. Oh, don't be a shit hole. Anyway, I'm sorry. It's a beautiful house.
Oh, well, come on.
That's true.
And then we've edited some friends.
Don't be a hater.
The aerial house was fucking amazing, by the way,
but just the LA traffic and stuff.
I just want to punch out.
Anyway, I'm sorry.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Indeed, just hella people mad at you.
I like the people.
A lot of pride, dude.
There's a lot of pride.
Yeah, LA man.
So listen to John.
The judge around, man.
So we do. The judges, baby. We fly down there. L.A. man. So listen, so we fly down there.
I lose my fucking ID.
And so I happen to have my...
You left it at the strip club the night before.
That's right.
So where'd it go, Dick?
Come up there and talk with that one now.
So I, I lose the bar stool.
I lose my ID.
We're on our way back.
That's not a true start.
Can we leave this strip club in the grocery store? I lose my ID. We're on our way back. That's not true. Start. Can we leave this strip?
I
Everybody knows me when we got to start explaining ourselves. So yeah, we didn't I didn't actually have drugs in my butt. Okay
Yeah, let's start covering ourselves. It was a deal. Come on. I thank you
Luzzy idea at the airport, right? And we're flying back now and I luckily I still have
My old ID and my gambling card which by the way you're you're very
Very very adorable
And cherubly your picture
It looks like this little baby angels that they that they they the chair. Do you have pukes shells?
No Angels that they you know that they they they sure do you have pukas shells? You guys saw mine. I'm like making this shit like I just shit face. You know, so because I have the old ID,
I'm gonna try and like play it off.
Like I don't know that I haven't lost it.
I just want to go real quick and hopefully don't say anything.
She just just confirms my name with my,
my, my, my ticket, right?
And she goes, well, you made it for the first time.
I did. And then I, it's right before it's the last time
they have to look at my ID and they go,
oh, did you know this is expired?
And I go, yeah, I lost my ID on the way over.
And they're like, oh, go ahead and step to the side right here.
Jerry, code 7, 4, 3, 9, or?
And I'm like, oh, Jesus.
So I stand aside, and actually, I just stood there waiting
and she's like, oh, it's gonna be a minute
I'm like, oh great. So I had to step aside and I'm like awesome. It's gonna take forever to do this
Jerry comes up Jerry says to me. What's the problem? They they joke about my laughing man Z Jerry
Yeah, they they joke about me leaving what losing my ID and that my only other ID is a gambling card
And so they have their fun right and they say they say, okay, follow me, right?
And so I follow this guy and he's taking me through and they're all like, as he's going by,
oh, we got a code 974, you know, we got a code 974, like he's telling everybody's going by,
I'm like, it was like a code for it. Yeah, there's a code for it, right? And you know, we get it,
we get it gets over to this guy, right? And this guy's stacking the bands and he goes,
hey, Mike, could you go over here and do the code 497 with, you know, this guy, right? And this guy's stacking the bends and he goes, Hey, Mike, could you go over
here and do the code 497 with, you know, this guy here?
So you said three different. I don't know what it was. I don't remember the first story
reasons I'm going to just keep throwing code numbers.
Sixty nine. So he, he goes, Oh, I'm doing bends right now, you know, and like you tell
he doesn't want to. Nobody wants to do it. Yeah, nobody wants to do it. And then you guys like kind of look around standing there,
like, this is awkward, like, can we just get over this?
Like just pat me down.
Johnson do it.
I'm pretty sure if you will hot chick.
Oh, so listen, so the guy,
the guy goes, you know, we're supposed to go to that shift
in five minutes.
So if you can't find anybody else, I'll do it.
You know, so guys like, yeah, well, can I just have you do it?
I can't find anybody else.
So it takes me over. And he stands in front of me and the hands this long old spill
like it reminds me of like when the like you're with the rights when your cop the cop reads
the right's yeah you're render rights right so when you read your Miranda rights you go to this
like long old thing so he's like going through this long old like hey I'm gonna do this that
blah blah blah are you okay and then he stops are old like hey, I'm gonna do this that blah blah blah
Are you okay and then he stops are you okay with that? I'm gonna do that? Are you okay with that?
And I'm like dude just fucking pat me down like I don't have a bomb
I don't have anything like let's get out of here. Let's do this
I'm not mean annoyed. I'm actually being playful with them. I'm laughing. We're joking you guys were you guys were there
Right, I was just kind of just
Smilling there. Yeah, you know, I asked him afterwards if I need to give my phone number and shit like so I was having fun with the situation
But to be completely honest I didn't want I never had that before I was always under the impression that
When these moms that went crazy on the news and then all these people that had these that kid this huge upper
I thought it was the one that Doug gets always you know Doug always gets pulled over right because something he goes through his thing
Goes to the sensor they see his vest that looks like a bomb,
and they always have to...
It's got a bunch of them,
it's got a bunch of scanners over his...
So they pull him to the side,
they pat him down, and then he gets his stuff, right?
Well, this is different.
This is, they actually, I didn't know this.
I was always a student.
This is extremely invasive.
This is what I thought the original,
what the original pat down was,
and I never really saw anybody do this
So I always thought like got some of these people are kind of overreacting like come on like it's their job to patch you down Give these poor kids a break that that's what they have to do
It's for our own safety you guys don't for why is everyone have to make a big or deal but they're always just they're seeking attention
That was my way of thinking I have to to be honest, until I got this,
and I say I got this, like I feel like I got something
right now, I feel like it's lasting
in practice in your mind.
It was so fucking invasive, dude.
It was crazy.
Like he literally takes his, and I know he takes the back
of his hand, but he outlines my entire pecker and balls.
Like I can feel him go over the vein, you know, like he actually like.
And he, and he, yeah, there's, you know, it's the main one.
He took a horizontal pass four times and then he took a vertical pass.
Or you're getting like a partial hand job.
Yes. And so there's this uncomfortable feeling that this partially feels good.
And this is also really weird that this is happening to me publicly in front of a bunch of people
He just teed and lined you and then he has to go he has to go all the way up on both side to the point where he asked me to take my belt loops
Hold your belt loose I have to give myself a wedgie so he tells me to give myself a wedgie basically right so I lift my pants all the way up so they're now I get that
Manlato I got a camel toe going on right so it's my junk
So I'll press down knuckle camel toe for girl. Whatever you know what I mean
I said man, so I'm I'm wedging in the fuck out of myself and he goes and does the whole process again
So like through this like it's multiple times you know why
That now you know imagine now you're a parent holy shit. Yeah, yes, 100% I would get arrested
I feel guilty. I would get arrested.
I feel guilty.
I would do it a jail.
I, this was definitely a self-reflection for me
on the, the thoughts I had on those people
that I thought were seeking attention over this
because I was just unaware.
I was unaware that they actually go to that level
and I thought, if this was, if this was my girl,
forget my five-year-old daughter. You're straight up hoggressed with you.
My five-year-old daughter, I'm labeled a knock-a-mothe-fucker out, you know?
But I mean, even my girl would be like an uncomfortable watching her get touched like
that.
That aggressively right in front of me.
Dude, it's a hot topic.
It's been a hot topic for a while because it's like, everybody's like, oh, it's for
our safety, but you got to be careful with that.
It's for our safety, you know, thing.
Like when the NSA fucking wiretaps everyone
without a warrant, without due process,
they just wiretap anybody and everybody whoever they want.
And people are like, well, I have nothing to hide.
You better be careful when you give up your liberties,
when you give up your freedoms,
because those at some point can be used against you
and then how you're gonna get them back.
That one's that boxes opened up.
You don't get about that.
Yeah, that's why there has to be like a protective mentality.
These are, yeah, you're gonna be very careful
and are these things actually making it safer?
This is an important debate we need to have.
I'm not gonna debate that now one way or the other
but you gotta ask yourself that.
And then lastly like
You know if terrorists hated us for our freedom. Well, they fucking won. Yeah, like they're winning We're losing our freedoms. It's all the same. Yeah, it's starting to happen. You know, I mean now you get into playing like
You know Adam feels like a like he's like he's being violated and that's Adam
I mean Adam's super comfortable with himself. He's a big dude. He's in feel threatened
Yeah, we and that's what trip me out. What tripped me out was that,
you know, we were-
You can handle something.
We were joking, we were video-
Yeah, you look like uncomfortable.
Like, as you're looking over, like, oh my God,
no, like serious.
Yeah, like I remember being like,
we're having fun with this whole situation,
but then being like, whoa dude, like this is a little much.
This is a little more than I'm comfortable with.
And think, and what, mostly because of what went through my head right away. Like you said, which was imagine that being
your daughter because then I wouldn't know how to react because you brought this up and
I thought it was an excellent point. Like so that's happening to your daughter and as
a father do you pretend like you don't care? Do you pretend like it doesn't bother you?
So that sends a message to your young daughter that another man or woman that is a stranger is touching me like this and my dad and my mom
Don't say anything or do anything or then do you react all crazy and then now your daughter and freaking out
Don't know. Yeah, trauma like holy fuck like how do you react in that situation and to make it healthy?
I think I don't know what I would whoa that blew my mind. I don't know what I would do man
I feel like I would lose my shit like I feel like I wouldn't be able to control what I would do
Yeah, you know I mean because I see you can't be you can't be mad at the guy who's doing his job either right because you know
What he's told you to use up right now all the horrible shit that's ever happened in fucking society of all for all the humanity
For all the time it's someone doing their fucking job. Yeah exactly. It's not the order taker the order tape
I'm sorry the order giver. Yeah, you always have's not the order taker. The order taker, I'm sorry, the order giver. Yeah, the order always have a choice.
The order giver is a fucking evil motherfucker too.
But I'm gonna tell you something, Hitler did not kill himself,
millions of Jews.
It was a lot of people just doing their fucking job.
So here's a little message I like to send people.
Don't do your fucking job if it's fucked up.
Yeah, just don't do it.
Quit.
Like be strong with that.
You know what I'm saying?
Strike.
Strike is a whole.
You know, like demand change.
It's just crazy.
Don't play that.
Yeah.
This whole thing is a big thing.
Oh, I'm just doing the job.
Oh, in their defense, okay, in their defense, maybe they don't feel bad about it.
Exactly.
Exactly.
In their defense, either one, they don't feel bad about it too, that maybe they've never
even thought to like really put
Themselves on the other side. They're just doing their job. Of course. There's many jobs that I've had that I'm passionate about
I love doing but then I don't I'm not thinking of all the
Requestions and we're using you know an example that's like they're not hurting. They're not killing you
They may be violating people like get that and I'm sure some of them say I don't want to do that
You know, I'm not gonna do that but you know they do, there's a very famous study that they've done
and that they've replicated where they'll have test subjects
go into a room and they have shock-
Shock a person?
Yeah, so there'll be a person in another room
and they'll answer questions and if they get a wrong question,
then the person, the test subject will push a button
that'll shock the other person.
Now, they don't know that it's fake,
that they're not shocking the other person.
But they see them all getting hurt.
They see them or they hear them.
Or they hear it.
Getting hurt.
And they're informed that each shock
gets stronger and stronger.
And it starts off with the person just going,
ow, and then eventually it's like the person like,
no, please don't, ah, I know really freaking out.
And this test subject is told what to do by the scientist,
who's like, okay, go ahead and push the shock button
or whatever.
And an alarming percentage of people,
I feel like, no, a alarming percentage will do it.
We'll do it.
Oh yeah.
A smaller person, actually a minority of people.
Wow.
We'll say no, fuck that.
It's very small.
Like I can tell I'm hurting him.
I don't want to hurt you.
I don't want to do this test.
I don't want to see you.
I see you could draw a line in the sand and be like,
that's two different types of people in the world that exist. You know, people that think outside I don't wanna do this test. I don't wanna do this test. I don't wanna do this test. I don't wanna do this test. I don't wanna do this test. I don't wanna do this test.
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I don't wanna do this test. I don't wanna do this test. I don't wanna do this test. I don't wanna do this test. I don't wanna do this test. I don't wanna do this test. I don't wanna do this test. I don't wanna do this test. I don't wanna do this test. and we all have to conform and, you know, it's conform or it's like, wait a minute, like, what has anybody thought
about like what this entails and like really examine
the process of it or did you just fall in line
and not question anything?
Well, dude, look at what happened on United Airlines.
You guys see that?
No, you guys were saying that the story was like,
what happened?
So they oversold the flight, so there's too many people.
But there's people, these people already bored.
Which house that even possible?
It's possible. First of all, it's this horrible business on the
like 10th level. Like this is just shit business. United
could go should go fuck themselves. Yeah. They overbooked a
flight. Everybody got on the plane. So the plane is full. But
now they don't have seats for their own employees. It was like
three people or something, right? Yeah, they had to get three
employees on that. So they're like, okay, we need to make
room. So first they offer, hey, you know, this flight was old.
So we'll give you double.
We'll give you $400 plus a hotel room.
Nobody responds.
We'll give you $800.
Yeah.
Then a bunch of people respond,
or a couple of people,
but there's one, there's one seat that they need
and nobody else wants to get off the plane.
Yeah.
So they, this is no bullshit.
They randomly select a passenger, randomly,
and they pick this guy and they're like,
you gotta get off the plane
And it was a doctor and he's like I have patients waiting for me and so
And so I'm so pleased to stay on he's like I'm not getting off the plane now that doesn't fucking matter
Uh that that definitely adds another twist to it
But I don't care if the guys is fucking going home like he bought the ticket you put on the plane go fuck yourself
You guys made a big mistake. Yeah, you're a mistake not hit so this guy doesn't want to get off, doesn't want to get up, they call the cops.
Oh shit.
Police go on the plane and,
physically assault this motherfucker,
drag him on his face.
Basically, rip him out of his chair
and passengers are screaming.
You guys are hurting him, stop.
They're screaming at the cops.
The cops were just doing their job.
Rip this dude off the plane, he's got a bloody lip, and they literally rip this, like he's just on his back and they rip him at the cops. The cops were just doing their job. Ripped his dude off the plane, he's got a bloody lip,
and they literally ripped his mother,
like he's just on his back and they rip him off the plane.
Didn't he run back into?
Well, no, I think afterwards,
they let him back on the plane.
They let him back on the plane.
Which just goes like, what the fuck are you guys thinking?
Just left him, you should've just left him.
You understand that that was wrong.
Yeah, you know what I'm saying?
But I would like to say, I'm very happily,
that United Airlines today lost,
I think, $1.4 billion in share value.
Wow!
Because of that issue.
The market responded.
There you go, motherfucker.
1.4?
Yeah, 1.4 billion dollars.
Holy shit.
Market share.
Yeah, that's what happens.
That's what happens.
In share value, excuse me,
because people just started dumping their stock left and right.
Didn't they have something happen to them like 10 years ago?
What happened to them when we were in our,
maybe I don't know, they've got a really bad reason.
They were one of the first ones that went down
or they had the most in one year or some crazy shit.
Like, I don't remember.
They had it.
Yeah, I don't remember.
I don't remember, I don't remember either,
but I thought United was another plane
at one of the companies that had a hard time. I just, I just, I just, I was at America, I don't know if it was a man. Like, I'm a remember either, but I thought United was another plane at one of the companies that had a hard time
I just I just I just think American I'm a business owner right?
I've been a business owner for a long time if that was me and that was my plane
That was stuck in a really bad situation. I would fucking say look I need a volunteer like you five thousand all like I would eat it
Yeah, exactly. I would eat that shit
No, I'm on the plane. I'm gonna get up and be like I realize this guy's situation
You know I would designate myself. Yeah, like nobody stood up. Yeah, like don't rip'm on the plane. I'm gonna get up and be like, I realize this guy's situation, you know, I would designate myself.
Yeah, like nobody stood up.
Yeah, like don't rip him off the plane.
Yeah, I'll leave.
Like, whoa, I would jump out like, whoa.
Like you guys are hurting that guy.
I just don't know, man.
I don't know, man.
I don't know.
But yeah, again, like this just happened.
This happened when, when this happened?
It just went viral like yesterday, I think.
Oh, I'm sure, let's write anything about that.
Is there people on YouTube, right?
Some people were filming it on their phones
and it went fucking nuts.
Oh, you have to put it in the show notes, Doug.
I was serious, I wanna see it.
I haven't seen this yet.
If there was, there was a foot disturbing, dude.
Is it really that bad?
It's just fucking stupid.
Like, what are you guys doing, man?
Get pissed off.
I can understand ripping someone off
is like being like,
Well, now there's the other question.
You're talking about like standing up. How many people stood up to make sure they got it on YouTube and how many people actually stood up?
Right, yeah, there's a lot of people filming. Oh, what that right? Yeah, it's being passive about the whole thing
Right, no, there's a lot of people so you get
By the way, dive into that right there's people that were yelling though and like yeah, there were well dive into that though for a second
Like you feel so compelled to to film when it's like guy if you felt so compelled to help this guy out like when to be just you know what though
You know what though. Let's think about that for a second. It helped how much more exactly?
Well, it's a document dude. You know how they say the pen is mighter than the sword
Yeah, that's the modern equivalent of the pen
It's a valid you take a picture or a video
And most of that this is what you can do if you ever see some shit going on going on
That's fucked up and you don't want to get involved because you're afraid to get hurt or you don't want to
yourself get just videotape that shit posted that should change this thing very quickly it does so
whoever took videos of that shit congratulate it's a great check on authority like that didn't they
aren't they aren't they gonna do the cops wearing the the glasses hadn't they already implemented that
like an L.A. or something yeah or something? All of the body cams?
Yeah, the body cams where there's a camera
on the mic just like 24 seconds.
I know some police departments are doing it.
It also, hey, by the way, it also protects the cops.
Yeah.
There's a lot of, you know, it times cops deal with,
probably most of the time, deal with assholes who lie
and say, oh, he was being, you know,
you know, excessively, you know,
excessive force, whatever, in this reality,
that's the purpose.
Well, so that's the shitty part.
So when I talk to my buddies that are cops, they'll tell you that that's the it's the purpose of that's the shitty part so when i talk to my buddies that are cops they'll tell you that
that's more often than the other uh... i would bet all very rare the guy gets
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Kyle cleetus
Does asymmetrical soreness indicate asymmetrical recruitment patterns? That's a good that's a good question
Mmm. I don't know next question
Yeah, well if we did that, I don't know.
That would be a good place to start looking.
For sure, it's got to be a great sign, right?
I mean, especially if you're doing both sides
of your body and an exercise, and one side is consistently
displaying signs of inflammation and muscle damage,
and the other side isn't, then yes, I would say this probably, or there's a
high likelihood that there's some kind of asymmetrical recruitment pattern. Like, I have like an example.
As you just say, give please, I mean, we didn't even have to use asymmetrical there. I think that's
what someone wrote on there. But I mean, it's simplify that so the average listener understands what
they're asking. This happened to me when I was a kid. I used to, I had a scooter. Scooters were kind
of big, more kids, but they didn't have the razor scooters.
Remember they had the big tires
and you fucking jumped those things.
And I thought it was so rad.
Which I thought were still way cooler than those schools.
I was like 19.
Could do so much more on this.
I'm just kidding, I was younger.
So anyway, I'd ride the scooter
and I was always right foot on the scooter.
Left foot was the one that I would push off.
And which meant my left calf got lots of work
from doing this and I'd ride this thing all around all the time and I'll never forget
Right around that time I thought it would be a great idea to start jumping rope probably because I watched Rocky
Truth be told
And I started jumping rope and my right calf got sore as fuck and my left was fine
Mm-hmm, and I remember thinking like why is that happening?
I'm like, oh it's the scooter because I ride on my left side with my left side
or I push off.
Did you put that together as a kid?
I did, I was a few hours nervous.
I think I was 14.
That's yeah, I wouldn't have put that together that early.
Really?
No, definitely not.
My awareness of my body and understanding mechanics
like that at that age, was this?
It's motor.
Yeah, no, it would have just,
it would have confused me like probably 90% of the people.
So where I see it most common though,
are like compound movements or, because that's where it gets really challenging.
Oh yeah, right. Those all kinds of joints. Yeah. And so then it's like, so for example, let's, let's just take something a little less complicated,
but a little bit more complicated than what Sal saying is like a lat pull down. Right. So you do a lat pull down and you feel your soreness all on the left side,
but not the right side. So you think, oh, I have an imbalance or recruitment pattern in my lap.
Well, it could be stemming from the shoulder or the arm,
you know, somewhere else in the kinetic chain,
besides just a lot.
So it's a good place to start.
It's not a 100% accurate, like, oh, I have this bad recruitment
pattern, you might be able to activate the lats pretty well,
but what's happening, there's some sort of dysfunction
in the shoulder or somewhere else that's good
Is it'll it'll kind of lead you down the path of like really assessing your day to day hats and like yeah, like your pattern
So once you can kind of
Really pay attention to that not just what you do in your workouts, but like all day long like how many times am I using my right hand to pick things up, to move
forward, which foot am I stepping with predominantly, or if I go to jump, which foot do I place
in front of the other, or all these things, think about chronically how long of a period,
like years of doing these same types of movements would contribute to now a quote unquote balanced
sort of a situation where I'm trying to just yeah.
I had a client who couldn't she couldn't feel one side of I don't know my thing was her left
glue like we would do exercises and glutes was one of her targets.
That's really common.
And she would she'd like I can feel my right glute firing but I can't feel my left glute
firing.
You know what movement points that right out for people?
You know the one that we did where we banned, resisted their quad.
And then you have to, you thrust your hips forward.
You thrust your hips forward and then you slide into the runner stretch.
That's, I use that to help people connect if they have, because that's a very common
thing. Can we do a YouTube video? We did. did we did a YouTube video which we could also put in the
Show notes and we can actually link directly to that but that's right there is a great
Example of something that's very very common and I don't know why the your lady is
I'm sure I'll let you finish your story in a minute
But I wanted to make sure I share that
That we made and I remember that that was a tool that I used a lot that helped people realize that
there is an imbalance there because you can really tell like when you go to thrust with
that.
Oh, it's very clear.
You can, when you're when you're focusing on isolating one side and being band restricted
and you have to engage the glue like one will like feel very natural.
Like you'll just get right.
Even me. I have. I still have it even being focused on it like because it's really we always like kick our hip to the side or when you drive
You're very rarely squared up. You're kind of shifted. So well another way to see that too is if you if you
Use like a bike and and you get off the seat and if you constantly like are sitting and you'll notice like the seat will tilt to one direction
and you just see like where you're really striking
the hardest.
That's right, it's interesting.
Well, so with this client that I had what I did was
I was trying to, I couldn't figure it out
because everything looked good.
Her squats look good, lunges look good,
even her toe touches look good.
Hip thrust like I was like, what the fuck,
why doesn't she feel this glue?
I'm thinking is there nerve damage
and I'm going all these different ways.
And then I had her take her shoes off
and I noticed that, so let's say it was her left glue,
her left big toe would come off the floor
a little bit when she would squat.
And boom, right there I could see that there was,
there was a change in the recruitment pattern
in that whole kinetic chain that she was feeling
in her glue.
So then I had her ground her right toe into the floor
while maintaining good ankle stability
and start doing toe touches with that.
And little by little by little,
we were able to gain some connection to that glue.
But you know, just in a minute comment
about how long it takes to change these patterns.
Oh yeah.
Let me tell you, man there's just no exaggeration.
Like I'm still doing it.
It's only been, it's been about maybe seven
or eight months for me now, where I have not lifted
with a belt or with squat shoes.
And I still will not go as heavy as I know I can go
on my exercises because on certain exercises like my deadlifts
because the second I go a little heavier I can lift the weight, it's no problem, but boom
there goes my old recruitment pattern kicks right back in.
So I got a back off.
It's hardwired.
You're fighting against hardwired and you're trying to reprogram that.
It takes a long time.
It takes a while and so like now I'm doing double overhand hook grip.
I'm not wearing a belt when I'm deadlifting. I'm watching my feet and I don't go above. I don't
think I've gone heavier than I think 450 was the heaviest I've gone recently. I've gone up to 500
but boom there's my imbalances. 450 I was okay. I don't even like going above 400 pounds. This is
something I'm somebody who was deadlifting the mid fives. And it's just, it's like you have to like learn
the exercise all over again.
It can be very frustrating.
But I will say a positive on that is not only
have I not lost muscle, so it's not like I've lost muscle
or performance.
I've actually, my body's changing a little bit.
I'm kind of building a little bit better, it seems.
And if you did though, I think it's okay.
Which is fine.
Yeah, and I think that's where, I mean, this is where I struggled.
I remember I had a hard time taking care of the things that I needed to take care of
with my body and imbalances because I was so driven to build muscle and I was so driven
by my insecurities of not having enough muscle that if I actually put all this focus on
something that wasn't
related to building muscle or as much as fixing the imbalances that, oh, I would lose all
this and it would be like, oh, the hardest thing ever to get back.
And that's just not true.
I mean, you can, it's really easy once you've built that muscle to get back to that point.
What's hard is breaking through new levels or points, right?
And you're in your growth or your progression and strength and muscle
size, especially when you start to hit the edges of your limits of your genetics.
So let's give Kyla takeaway.
So what you should do, I would do two things, A, I would use dumbbells.
And I would go light enough to where you can match both sides.
Yeah. Exactly.
I mean, everything match both sides from the ground,
all the way up from the position of your foot,
up to your ankle, your hip, your low back,
your scapula, your shoulders, your wrists, your elbows,
everything, pay attention to all that stuff.
Have to be perfect on both sides, use dumbbells,
do the same thing with barbells.
And go as heavy as you can, until,
or at least use as much weight up until the point where.
With form breaks.
You start to see one side is a little bit different.
And I mean, everything, like, I noticed I have,
I think a lot of people know they just push through it.
They do.
I think a lot of, but there's small things too,
like I notice when I do an overhead press
that my left wrist breaks just a little more
than my right and it's barely fucking noticeable.
Well, that's why it's also important
to do unilateral training.
So, you know, if you take it and you concentrate on
why my right side responds so much more
in my left shoulder, right?
That's what you have to take away from that
when you go back to barbells and you're like, okay,
you know, this is something I should probably
lower the weight like you guys are saying.
So that way it's a way that my left side
that's lagging can control properly.
Well, I know my right arm's gonna kill this,
but we need to train together.
So.
The Logan Doherty,
how do you see virtual reality tech
and artificial intelligence impacting the fitness industry
and mind pump?
Oh, wow.
Yeah.
Well, I think I love this kind of stuff.
I think impacting the fitness industry and mind pump are almost the same thing, I think I think I think impacting the fitness industry
and mind pump are almost the same thing, right? Because we're part of the fitness industry
and it's going to no matter what we've moved in the digital space. I mean, don't kid yourself.
Like we see a lot of opportunity utilizing tech and the way that we can reach more people.
I think that's been the biggest explosion that's positive, right? So it's been able to give people a way louder voice
and connect you to way more people.
So that way, there is a way now for people
that really know their stuff
and are sending the right message for the,
like more, to get more exposure
if they tap into it correctly.
And so as far as like VR and,
I mean, that's kind of an interesting thing in AI.
Obviously to me, those sounds so far away, but I mean, they're already making massive
improvements on them.
Well, 10-15 years later.
Well, let's talk about it.
This leads into our secret sauce, I feel like.
Something that's kind of like our secret sauce, I feel like, in a big part of mind pump
success and growth is the fact that we were trainers for as long as we were
We really understand like the things that the big rocks
That help people and we've tried our best to implement that in this new digital world
And I don't think a lot of people have spent at least in our arena
Has spent a lot of time focusing on those things.
So like, for example, we know that there is a personal element
that comes to training and fitness
that is very, very unique to it in comparison
to any other business model.
You don't purchase it and you don't get to go home
and look at it and play with it and drive it
and show it off to your friends. It's an emotion. It's a feeling. It's a level of awareness. It's something that
it's not tangible. So the need to have a personal connection with your people or your client is
unique in this industry. So my thing with the whole virtual reality is, and I don't know because
I don't know what it will look like in 15 I don't know, because I don't know what
it will look like in 15 years, you know, because when it first comes out, there'll probably
be a lot of pushback and they'll probably modify it, but that's still, and you're right,
I just, and I think it's to replace us.
I still think it's...
No, I think initially what we're going to see is that VR tech and AI is going to bolster
and strengthen the growth of fitness and success.
You'll really use it as a tool.
Big time.
I could see AI replacing a personal trainer when AI is,
when it's indistinguishable from a human.
When it's physical.
Yeah, when it's indistinguishable from a human,
then yeah, you'll have robot personal trainers.
Because the psychological component is 99% of personal
training sets.
That's the difference, you know,
because the secret's off.
You could write as much, you know,
code and algorithm as you want,
like leading up to this.
So AI obviously is taking on its own intelligence
so it's gonna think differently.
So it'd be interesting, like who know,
like AI itself is so unpredictable, you know?
Like who really knows what that looks like?
It's such a thing that it's like,
people talk about it with certainties,
but to me, it's just,
like, I think it's gonna be a lot different
than we even think it is.
Well, it's fun to speculate, right?
It's fun to speculate and try and figure out.
I really like what you said, Salas,
I see that, I see it as a tool,
I see it as it complimenting what we're doing.
I would love to have some ridiculously smart AI
as an assistant to us who we could totally program
or create all the frequently asked questions, right?
That we can just boom, boom, boom,
help so many more people that way on the real easy stuff.
And then maybe more the digging deeper
and diving more into the psychological side
which requires a person and diving more to the psychological side, which requires
a person and this ability to.
And the creative thought process.
Yes.
I think that's the biggest distinguishing factor, because you can pay attention to patterns
all day long, but that only tells you so much.
There's a creative element to humans that's unique.
I think in order to create real artificial intelligence,
we have to understand how the brain works and the mind works.
And of course, we don't, we're not even close.
That's why I feel like this is so far.
But I'll say that here's what I think.
Well, and we know too with the whole gut influencing that.
I mean, that could turn out,
I'm saying we talk about a rabbit hole.
The more we're saying,
so many things, yeah.
No, it's like that law.
Like Rob Wolf was telling us about.
Remember that is like the more you know
You know the the real memorial realize more you realize yeah, yeah, but it's like it's there's an actual graph for it
Yeah, Dumbar's equation. I think so so here's what I think with virtual reality in the more immediate future
I see when virtual reality is really good to where you can project yourself in someone else's living room as a 3D image.
I could see group training and personal training.
Well, because you already...
Yeah, you already see that right now with television
and being able to live stream.
So now I can join a class virtually in my living room.
So I mean, yeah, there's gonna be ways
that we'll be able to infiltrate
that into market like crazy. I think online coaching will explode. Like, if you, let's
say you want to train with someone over, you know, you're in another part of the country
or whatever, they could appear in your living room or in the gym with you, show you, you
know, techniques and exercises. I could see group training explode like that. Like, imagine
if there was a super
popular group exercise class taught by this fucking amazing instructor, but the classes are packed
all the time, but they could project him or her into your living room so you could take the class
with everybody. Honestly, I see augmented reality like hitting more than
video for this reason alone because you could put on some glasses or something and so now that person is just with you versus now
I have to like
Like create an entirely new environment and close myself off
And then experience this with this trainer in a virtual world
It's like can keep me in the real world, but now bring this person, you know right into my living
Yeah, I can see that like, keep me in the real world, but now bring this person, you know, right into my living life.
Yeah, I can see that.
Here's something else I see with, with, with tech is I see tech in the very near future,
being able to quantify all these different metrics that are related to your health and
your individual responses to things like foods and exercise.
So I think you're going to be able to, you know, right away.
All of you getting very sophisticated.
You're gonna be able to measure, you know,
inflammatory markers at real time, hormonal changes,
real time, your insulin level is real time.
You're gonna eat something, you're gonna see
how it affects your body.
You know, blew me away, we met with these,
with these tech health experts rather recently.
And they were explaining to us how,
cause they were measuring insulin in real time.
And they were telling us how a potato,
they were showing these graphs,
and there was this bell curve.
And most people respond like this
with their insulin response in the middle.
But then there's these outliers,
and they were showing us these specific examples.
Of course, they were keeping the people anonymous.
But they were showing like,
this guy eats a potato, and here's his insulin response,
and then look at this woman, and her insulin,
and it's completely different.
It's like, holy shit, that's totally different.
Night and day.
Like, with those kind of individual,
and we know this is trained for years,
like you train people, one person is a response
totally different from the next person.
So that's always gonna be out, like.
That's where I see the more immediate future
where you're gonna have devices now that
can measure all these things in your body
Yeah, and you'll eat an exercise and it'll tell you work out was okay today's workout intensity should be moderate and
And this is what you should eat today and you know you ate this and you know
You're in flammatory markers go up when you eat this you know these foods even though they're just supposed to be healthy
Exactly if you want my honest opinion
It's exactly that.
The future of fitness is gonna definitely steer more into the automated, like the sensor
type or spot.
So if I'm picking up a weight, it already knows how much it is, how many times you moved
it.
Like it's doing all the analytics of every part of your movement, your heart rate, you
know how you're responding, like how your breathing patterns are.
Like you're gonna have like just so much
fucking biofeedback, it's can be absurd.
Well, and I think this is an area
that we all strongly agree.
And when we first started Mind Pump,
we agreed that this, the fitness industry
is grossly behind.
I mean, they are way behind in this arena and in the future, the people
that are going to win this race are the ones that are on all that cutting edge, are taking
that aren't denying it, pushing back from it, that are embracing it, learning how to
use it, and to blend it within their style, their way of training there. If you are doing
that, you're going gonna be so far.
And eventually, those people are gonna gobble up
everybody else.
You could be the best trainer, the best like PT
and the country, but what's gonna happen?
And I got a lot of this from Tom Bilyu.
It was really good insight when we started getting into
our off air, we got into our personal business.
And I just love having the opportunity
to pick guys' brains at that level.
And, you know, he really sees it as the future
is anything that could be free will be free.
Like, so if you have the ability to share your knowledge,
give all this stuff virtually online,
without sucking your time,
I mean, look at the amount of good information
people can have from us now for nothing.
Or anybody, I'm just going to the internet.
Yeah, exactly, and so it's going to be
who can give the most free information the best.
And those people will gather the most amount of people
and then the real money in the business
will come off of all the other things.
Not that important.
And that is very hard for people to fucking swallow right now.
And I tell you right now.
Why would you want to give something away for free
that you used to make money on before?
Well, I tell you, bottom line is you're going to have to.
So if you plan to be in the fitness industry
and you want to do this for a long, long time,
you need to be in that transitioning
into that digital media direction and doing it now
if you don't want to get gobbled up.
You know what really excites me about tech?
The most exciting thing for me now, I think is either available now or will be available very soon.
There's a device that actually will scan food
and I can't remember how it works.
I think it shoots a spectra,
some kind of spectrometer.
Yeah, it shoots a laser at it
and then the way that the laser refracts
or whatever it can tell you, what's in your food?
So all of the other content, all that.
I'll scan a food, it'll tell me vitamins, minerals,
fat, protein, carbs, it'll tell me pesticides.
You know that's gonna be on your phone before you know it.
Oh, it'll be like pesticides herbicides toxins
Like can you can you just let's just take let's reflect for a second like labels can suck my dick. They're gone
Yeah, like yeah, exactly. No
Bopinies, nobody's a care nobody's a care about the FDA. Nobody cares about it. Yeah shit
You won't need it because you'll be able to look yourself in fact
You won't need you won't need some certified person policing governing something because you can govern it yourself
by the click of a button on your phone.
You want to talk about a disrupting technology?
I can imagine this.
Imagine how hard is it going to get to get past and get pushed through.
Oh, it's cool.
There's nothing against it.
There's no regulations against it.
That's the beautiful thing about tech as it advances faster than bureaucrats can legislate.
But there's what I love that I think is beautiful.
Get them!
Think about this.
You've got that point that we weren't there 10 years ago.
No, now it's there.
That's how Uber exists, right?
But think about it, there's an old lady and she makes the best Mexican food.
Well now she can fucking cook it and not worry about having to be regulated because you
can go over there and you can scan it yourself and see, oh, it's clean, healthy, and I can
eat it.
Like, all those scare tactics gone.
Like, I'm excited about this going.
And for me, it opens up our opportunity too.
So you don't have to go through all this whole process
to open up a restaurant.
You just have people over that want to eat your food.
And think about supplement companies.
Think about supplement companies are fucked
because you're going to scan the protein
and be like, your label is wrong.
You have all the shit in it.
This is all soy.
Motherfucker, I can't wait.
I can't wait. They're shaking in their boots. Oh, good. Shake. This is all soy. Motherfucker. I can't wait. I can't wait.
They're shaking in their boots.
Oh, good.
Shake.
Sarah Beekso.
What is your thoughts on training with adrenal fatigue?
This is coming up for me more and more and more
because I've opened myself up to,
yeah, some online coaching.
Of course, and we definitely,
and I'm getting a lot of these.
I'm on slot of that one.
Oh man, I'm getting a lot of these on slot of that. Oh, man I'm getting a lot of these people who who used to compete in bikini or bodybuilding or physique or whatever
Mm-hmm, and they're in this category
How similar is this to metabolic damage? I think it's the same
It was same. I think it's a similar or a stoneman. It's the name. It's the name. They're giving it right now like because it right now
And that's what I've heard both of them. I mean, we have to be very much like the same thing
We have to preface with that also,
is that it's not, it's by the medical community,
you know, metabolic damage.
Yeah, metabolic damage or.
No, it's not recognized yet, but this,
I mean, it will be, I'll bet my house on it.
I tell you, so adrenal fatigue,
you know, these are symptoms of like fatigue, low energy,
low energy, low motivation, maybe depression,
issues with sleep, cold hot sweats,
like this is your burnt out body, okay?
And it happens from, there's many, many causes,
but a lot of it resides in over application of stress,
not getting enough sleep and poor nutrition.
This goes also hand in hand with, what's the word, leaky gut syndrome,
leaky gut syndrome and adrenal fatigue tend to go hand in hand and rarely will you find
one without the other. Leaky gut syndrome is when your gut is inflamed and it becomes permeable,
more permeable than it normally is. And so the foods that you normally eat leak through the gut wall and get into your bloodstream
and then your body sees these things that are leaking
through as foreign invaders and they create antibodies to them.
And some foods are more prone to being,
you know, recognizes talks as invaders and other foods.
Gluten is definitely one of them.
And I have yet, okay, and I'm not saying this is true
for everybody, but I have yet to have somebody
who I think has real adrenal fatigue
who didn't benefit from eliminating gluten.
Eliminating gluten for people who are truly
in adrenal fatigue so far for me seems to be a home run
every single time, seems to be like,
oh wow, this was a big change.
As far as training on a journal fatigue,
you are trying to balance your body out
and optimize your body, so think of your training
in that sense, so I'm training a client right now
who I think has a journal fatigue,
and she's asking me, what should I do on my day off today?
Like, I wanna do cardio, I wanna do hit cardio,
and I'm like, no, guess again, and she's like,
well, I wanna go on a long hike, no, Guess again, and she's like, well, I'm gonna go on a long hike.
No, guess again.
Yo-go this spot.
She's like, yoga, and I'm like, depends.
What kind of yoga?
She's like, uh, there's hot yoga, there's power yoga,
and then there's candlelight in yoga.
I'm like, that's the one.
There it is.
You should do today.
And then she's like,
or I can get a massage and say,
that's another good option.
So, for adrenal fatigue,
you're trying to balance your body out.
So I would say with your training, traditional strength training, few days a
week, maybe two days a week max, maybe three days a week, but probably two days a week,
no cardio, just look at your need, you know, meditation, sleep, eat, increase your fat
intake, reduce your carbon take, reduce your sugar intake, that's
for sure.
Reduce your processed food intake, no artificial sweeteners like heal your gut, take probiotics
because they're strongly connected.
Those are my like, kind of my surface.
Now I'm going to take the, I'm going to play devil's advocate in this situation because
this is something that is now getting popular in the fitness community and more smart people
are talking about it, sharing it.
Now I also already see the pendulum swinging on this where I turn it into an identity.
Yes, a lot of people want to go, oh my God, this is why I'm not losing weight.
I've been waiting for it.
Yeah, exactly. I've been waiting for someone to tell me what, because I know that I is why I'm not losing weight. I've been waiting for it. Yeah, exactly.
I've been waiting for someone to tell me what, because I know that I am not eating that
much and I'm working hard and I should be losing way more weight.
And so I just want to tell everybody this real quick that it's way more rare than you
think it is.
Okay.
It's actually, it's someone who truly has metabolic damage is is less common than you think and
most people are just
Really stressing the body out and it just takes yeah, I just balance it out
I just got to balance some things out a little bit on them and get them a little more aware of what's going on
And they tend to like turn around pretty good. That's a good point, because real adrenal fatigue takes some serious time.
It takes some time to get out of.
Yeah, you're looking at months and months.
Some people I've known,
I've worked on it and after about a year.
Exactly, most of the ones that I have truly worked with
that actually have it,
it's been, none of them have been under six months
to a year.
All of them have been year plus of like me helping them
and really seeing little to no results, because it's a long haul to get there because to get that much damage
done to your metabolism, you've had to have fucked it up pretty bad for a long time.
Most people though are just because all those things that Sal was talking about that, you
know, people are doing those are all stressors even working out as a stressor, right? So
most people are just stressing the fucking out of my mind. Yeah, I definitely caution in the intensity, even if you are
lifting weights, I just preface that.
And that, and that, to me, like normally that's all I just got to go like,
oh, fuck, well, you're hammering yourself here, you're hammering yourself at work,
you're hammering yourself here, let's actually just fucking, let's do a couple things that
actually help that or compliment that instead of adding more to it. And normally when they go to a trainer,
they're desperate and they've already tried
so much stuff and they're trying everything right now
and now they're looking for you to give them
even more stuff to do and they're willing to pay for it.
And it's like actually, we're gonna cut out
a lot of this stuff and we're just gonna take one or two
little things that I want you to hone in on and connect to
and figure out how that affects the way you feel, the way you move, your energy, your strength, all
that stuff.
And you start connecting the dots with them.
And normally that only takes me about 30 to 90 days.
That's why I have a, for me it was when I was doing online coaching, it was a three-month
minimum.
You had to be with me because I wanted, I knew that, you know, within those 90 days, I was
going to be able to connect enough dots that you would get it, you know, or get the idea
of what you needed to do for the long-term results. But I knew also that I needed more than
30 days because majority of people, it takes a little while for you to start to connect
that and figure that out.
Oh, here's something you should not do if you have a real adrenal fatigue. You should
not fast. I actually had people who I think have adrenal fatigue, they're Yeah, oh, here's something you should not do if you have a real adrenal fatigue. You should not fast.
I actually had people who I think have adrenal fatigue
and are like, oh, I'm gonna start fasting
because I know they're gonna have to.
Yeah, they're stressor.
No, it's more stressor.
Well, your body just can't handle anything
that's not, that's gonna be any type of a stressor.
Or you're fighting.
Yeah, you know, for to survive.
Yeah, you know, come on.
Yeah, exercise, food, all these things, you know, fasting like those are all
here's another one vegetables lots of vegetables cooked vegetables. You want to eat cooked vegetables. Why?
If you have in flam, if you do have leaky gut syndrome lots of raw vegetables can actually irritate
your gut more believe it or not. So cooked vegetables are easier to digest the cooking process actually
breaks down the fiber quite a bit and you can eat more of them. So cook vegetables are easier to digest. The cooking process actually breaks down the fiber
quite a bit and you can eat more of them.
So that's another one I had this conversation
with somebody the other day and lots of vegetables.
I don't know what have all this bloating and pain.
I'm like, wait a minute, do you cook these vegetables?
No, yeah, yeah, you cook those
and then see what happens and sure enough,
solve the problem.
Right.
Xavier AN5, how did you come up with the name Mind Pump? And what other names have you, did you come up with the name mind pump and what other names have you did you come up with before you know what I
Doug do you remember who or how we came up with mind pump?
I don't I was a collaborative effort. Yeah, I could not one person stands out. Oh, Craig
No, you know, yeah, he had some like post going on it within his people and so did we.
I remember we it was one of the off-prone. Yeah, we were throwing names around all together.
And yeah, that's what I remember from it. I do remember.
I do remember and I remember Sal.
I do remember Sal saying this where he's just like, you know, I foresee us doing so much
more than just fitness for people. I don't want us glaskeling.
Yeah, and then I remember me coming back and countering
being like, well, listen, we need to stay in our lane.
Like, we're fitness people.
We need to, like, it needs to be something related
to fitness because that's our expertise.
We don't want to be also trying to act like we're experts
in something that we're not.
And we all agreed, right?
We both agreed on both.
Like, both were important.
Like, we had to have some sort of attachment to health wellness and fitness, but then we
also didn't want to pigeon hold ourself to something just related to fitness because
we want to help in so many other areas, right?
Yeah, I could, because you know, if you, if we had, I voted for shreds, but that's already
taken.
That's so, it's so, it's like, oh shit.
If, if it was a strictly fitness name. It would limit our content.
And, you know, I don't know, when I met with you guys
and we first sat down, I immediately, right,
we had this chemistry right away,
we're fucking flying, like we don't shut up,
we have really, really good conversations.
And I thought to myself, I said,
well, I said, there's a lot of personality here.
Like we're more personality than anything.
And we are quite knowledgeable about fitness and health,
but there's people out there that are smarter than us
in fitness and health.
And we also knew we weren't gonna go
the super academic route because we get our ass
as handed to us, but I did know that we also talked about,
hey, we would like to get those people on our show.
But we also like all these other things,
like all these are the subjects we like to talk about.
And it just fitness happens to be our favorite hobby.
So that's why the word mind is in there
because we wanted it to be open enough to be able to do that.
And let's be honest, when we actually did it,
we weren't like, oh, this is perfect.
Like, I kind of settled on it.
And I remember when Doug even created the first logo,
we weren't even like, oh, that's perfect, Matt.
Justin, I remember we wanted something more creative
that was more brandable for shirts and things like that.
And we were all going back and forth,
like, I don't like the color yellow and all this stuff,
but it's kind of crazy how it worked out
because the fact that it ended up being just the podcast,
MindPump Media is the parent company to MindPump raw fitness truth. It really worked out. So it
stands out great for podcasting. So when you're going down and you're scrolling on the podcast,
you see MindPump in big, bold, yellow and white letters. So it stands out really well.
It doesn't pigeonhole us to just fitness. We don't have a barbell and weights all over it or like a guy flexing or a girl flexing on there.
So it was not the Keto show or the Paleo radio hour.
Yeah, it really grew on all of us, right? I feel like, you know, but we did go back and forth. I mean, we debated back and forth.
And I don't think anybody was like overly excited about it
I think we all kind of like okay, that does work that works that works it covers everybody. It's growing us
Yeah, but now it's like now obviously hide and sight like well, it's perfect. It was a perfect name
But yeah, at the time I think more of that idiot Servant thing
Servant
So
Servus here you do a thing. Yeah, you have a thing with a mispronouncing I do you know I'm but you know, serve you, sir. You do a thing, yeah, you have a thing with mispronouncing.
I do, you know, I'm,
but you know what you just wanna see if people are listening.
Well, here's the thing I notice about,
I think it's a trick.
Here's the thing I notice about Adam,
which is just blows me away.
You have the ability to pick up vernacular very quickly.
Like if I say a word that you've never heard before,
and I'll hear you the following week,
use that same word and exactly the way
it's supposed to be used.
I gotta give you props.
You mentioned lambasted.
Yeah.
I was like, God damn, I've heard that word.
Like, ever.
Hey kids.
Like lambasted.
Use it everybody.
It's fun.
I don't even know what it's fun.
I use it last night.
But you do.
You use words I think that you read or you hear once.
You understand how it's used, and then you say it,
and then you use it in sentences and in paragraphs,
and use it appropriately or properly.
I just think you heard it once or you read it once.
I know I've mispronounced words I read all the time.
Well, I think that's the part of learning.
That's part, at least that's part of my learning process,
is I have to read something, I have to see it,
and then I have to say it. Like, I need to do all, I have to see it, and then I have to say it.
Like I need to do all three of those things for it to,
and I need to do it soon,
because if I just took something,
and that's it, you just apply it really quickly.
Yeah, I'm not afraid to.
I'm not afraid to.
Most people will reserve that,
and so they're basically filtering themselves.
Yeah, you know, that's all that is.
I just still learning the actual pronunciation.
100% I'd rather say it and it come out
not the way it should have came out,
but that's how I learn, right?
So that's how it's really,
and that fear of, I think that holds a lot of people back
because they're so afraid.
I'm not gonna say this right or it's gonna sound wrong.
They're about the backlash or.
Oh, they're questioning it right.
I might be wrong for what.
Somebody's so afraid of being wrong.
Do you pronounce it this?
I have the zero fucks, like I'm gonna say it because I know it fits somewhere there right?
I'm gonna keep going and then I'm sure I'm sure somebody will make fun of me later
It's interesting. I only have it a handful of times. I noticed that because like even like so this brings up like kind of a
Conversation like one of our old videos for on Indian clubs like so I learned Indian clubs from one of my buddies
that's a trainer and another buddy of mine
that was a trainer that went to these different conferences
and all this kind of stuff.
And so I was talking specific way.
And I realized that like me then now taking this,
I didn't fact check them.
You know, I didn't fact check them on it.
And like so I wasn't like super versor proficient.
And I'm not like professing that I'm like super proficient in Indian clubs I'm like, so I wasn't like super versor proficient. And I'm not like, like, professing that I'm like super
proficient in Indian clubs or kettlebells or anything like
that.
But I do know enough, you know, to sort of, to help other
race.
Yeah, really.
You know enough to know that you know that more than the
majority and you sharing that is more powerful and
helpful.
And here's the thing.
So I was wrong on a certain part of the grips and in the way
that I didn't twist my body back
and get some transverse planar movement to attach to that
and I was thinking about it, it's a good point.
You know, like I do it this way because I can,
that's not necessarily the right thing.
You want to teach it the way that you want everybody to do it.
But anyway, so I just checked myself before getting angry.
You know, I'm like, okay, well, I'll do my research.
I'll see, you know, critically examine this and look, you know, and sure enough, you know, is wrong.
So that being said, like, for my response to it is like, okay, cool.
Like I learned something.
Yeah.
I just learned something and guess what?
Like I, like, that's, that's like one of the first times where somebody had
checked because I got a ego you know when somebody comes at me and so I'll be more reserved with it
and be like oh no I'm gonna be wrong yeah but I just recently noticed that that dude your state
has changed for me you know yeah dude I was really impressed because it was actually a YouTube
channel and somebody commented and they said you were doing something wrong and normally you know
your your response would be to fucking fire back.
It's our channel, right?
We got the power, we'll say.
But no, Justin went and did his research, the guy was right.
Invited the guy to come down,
he's probably gonna come down and show us some shit.
I hope he does, and show us some shit.
I wanna learn from it.
Like how awesome is that?
Number one, for Justin to do that.
And how awesome is that that now you're able to, you know, you learn that process
and you just grow from it.
But, you know, Adam, back to your, you know,
when you mispronounce words or whatever,
which I know what I would consider you,
but I wanna hear from your mouth.
Do you consider yourself a communicator?
Would you say that that's one of the things
you love doing the most?
Yeah, I like to communicate.
Yeah, I think so.
Like a true communicator,
you value and you love words.
You love words, you love new words.
And I'm, same way, I love words because different words
that mean the same thing can also mean a little bit different
so you can be more specific.
Absolutely.
And more descriptive with the new word.
And words are fucking, they're fun and awesome.
I mean, I used to actually write down,
I grew up into the same thing. I actually used to write down my words that I would list
here and be like, oh, I like that word. And I'd write it down because I just liked the way
it looked and the way it sounded. And I think people who like to communicate tend to do that.
And we probably, you know, I do the same thing. I think we probably have a higher propensity
to mispronounce words because we're saying it for the first time because
we heard it for the first time and if people don't correct us we just keep saying it that way
until somebody says something.
Yeah.
Well, I think too when you're, I personally love it.
Well, we're also, we're just going to go to library and read it.
Yeah.
It's good to give people character though.
Well, otherwise everybody sounds so robotic that has held back for years and then now they're
regurgitating everything out
the proper way.
Well, you also got to remember too,
that I used to prop up.
Especially when you're talking about Sal and I
is because Justin, he has the most formal education.
I'm self-taught for the most part.
I mean, now that I'm 35 years old,
I've spent more time of my life teaching myself
than I ever have from a teacher, a mentor,
anybody else.
And so part of that, you get a little bit of a,
which I don't mind sharing because we are the raw truth.
And that's one of the things I think that's mind-pumped
in true fashion here is like, that's part
of my learning process, right?
And I'm not afraid of it.
I'm not afraid to embrace it and own it.
Like, I'm gonna get it out there because I know that that happens to me two or three times because I'm using it and I'm not afraid of it. I'm not afraid to embrace it and own it. Like, I'm gonna get it out there
because I know that that happens to me two or three times
because I'm using it and I'm applying it
because I just learned it two or three days before.
I know that, but in due time, it's gonna flow.
Like everything else does.
And then I'll be that much better if I communicate her.
Now, you just get to, now people get to see that process
because we're not refined because we didn't go,
I didn't have eight, 12 plus years of formal education
where I was taking tests on it,
learning over, over, over, memorizing it,
and then come out and then I'm like,
okay, I'm only gonna present you what I know.
Well, that's a homo go.
I'm gonna fucking present you everything that I know,
and then as I learn it, I'm gonna present it to you right away
because one, I feel like a lot of people can benefit,
and then two, that's how I learned.
I actually had a client give me, it's like one of the greatest compliments ever.
It was a surgeon that I trained.
I used to train some really, really smart people.
And I loved it because while I was training them, I was just learning the whole time.
So I felt like I was actually getting more out of the train than they were from my perspective.
But anyhow, I don't remember what word it was, but I was talking about something and I
said a word.
And he kind of looked at me and smirked
and we ended up becoming good friends.
He smirked a little bit and he goes,
you like to read a lot, don't you?
I'm like, huh?
Why do you say that?
And he goes, the way you pronounce that word,
he goes, that's not how most people pronounce it.
I can tell you've never heard it before.
You've only read it.
What a nice way to compliment you, right?
Instead of insulting you, because he's insecure
about how intelligent he is to try and make you feel,
like most people right there,
and that's why that guy became a friend of yours for sure.
Well, I know who you're a personality,
and when you meet somebody that has that kind of level
awareness where he easily could have done what most
insecure motherfuckers that are that smart do,
which is opportunity to hammer you.
Yes, an opportunity to make you look less smart or him more smart by
pointing that instead, he actually complimented you on fucking up,
which is how I like to respond to a lot of people.
You've seen me do this before.
If you go back to, like, if you go deep enough, if you've been
following me long enough on my Instagram, there was quite a few
people that were like beat me up over, like, misspell words on my
Instagram, right?
That were that I would just rip out something.
I'd just say it and say it and I felt,
and I'd just fucking laid into the grammar Nazis
because I'm like, I don't spend like this like a college paper.
I'm giving you what I know.
I'm gonna fuck it up all the time.
Like I don't really sweat it, you know what I'm saying?
So I feel like when you meet,
that shows a lot of insecurities on the people
that find the need to point it out.
There's a way to deliver that.
That's how you deliver information like that.
Well, there's a pretentiousness that exists
when you get into academia that's real.
And it's people that they start to divide
the sales people, quote, unquote,
with the people that are of academic knowledge.
Yeah.
You know, there's been a lot.
I did all of my, I paid good money to get all this academic knowledge. You know, there's been a lot, I did all of my paid good money
to get all this academic work.
And you know, fuck these guys are making more money than me.
Dude, I'm the one holding the knowledge.
You don't know, I don't think you realize
how hard you hit the nail in the hell.
Well, obviously a lot of people learn
and get formal education because they love to learn.
But there's some people that like to learn
because it makes them feel superior.
Absolutely.
But what you're talking about right now
is a long lasting tradition.
You know that academia, people at the highest education levels
for thousands of years hated the merchants.
You guys know this, right?
Like the people who were in the churches,
the nobles, the ones who read the books, the whatever, they dislike the merchants. You guys know this, right? Like the people who were in the churches, the nobles, the ones who read the books, the whatever, they dislike the merchants, so the ones that were out
there like doing the trades, making the money, they hated them so much because they felt that
they were so smart that they could organize society better if they could just control people more than
the market would with all these merchants. Reality, we know the opposite. We know nobody's, there's not a lot of people
to understand that, right?
No, no, no.
That's a good economics right there.
And that was a job on something.
And that's been around for very, very long time.
And this is where the distrust
that originated in banks and merchants for a long time.
And if you go and look through history,
you see that's caused a lot of people from.
This is a lot of freedoms, Milton Friedman, right?
Milton Friedman talks about this,
and if you look through, you actually read
some of the historical things,
you'll see like the church,
at the time, for a long time,
the church was the holder of information,
and they were considered the scholars and the academics,
and the church did in fact, for a long time,
we're the ones that were studying and learning the most stuff,
and then there was a split, of course,
but the nobles and the church and whatever.
And they did not like these quote unquote,
unintelligent people who were building these things
and trading and making this, creating this wealth
and all the stuff.
And through this wealth, having more influence
over society, because they felt that they could organize
society better because they had better ideas,
even though in practice they never did anything.
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