Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 505: The Dark Side of the Fat Acceptance Movement, the Value of Post-Workout Inflammation, Preventing & Recovering from Binges & MORE

Episode Date: May 10, 2017

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Might, might, up with your hosts. Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. Hey Justin. Yeah. Sing it. Sing it. It's the motherfucking quah. It's the motherfucking Dang I had to bring that one back from the olden days I used to be back to a 97 right there It gets somewhere on there. So what's that song from? Oh, is it yeah, I love bone

I know you said that before you should know that damn it bone thugs. Why isn't anybody listen that and boys the men you I could totally see Stop. No, I'm that out of your walk man. I never liked I never liked to school And I'm a little Jansport bag at that point is all the way sucked up. Doesn't it the disc man? You know that came after the walk man. You know why I don't like big as fuck you know why I don't like the dis man Cuz that it's it all the time. I'd rather have a walkman, because you could do crazy shit and then the music wouldn't skip. Oh, this is perfect,

because remember you're talking about the 13 reasons why I think I've actually watched. Oh, you finally watched you of those episodes. Oh, crazy, huh? Yeah, so they take it all to like tapes. And so their whole thing is to like, bring it so it's hard for them to listen to. They have to go find a tape player, cassette player, and then go through this whole thing is to like, bring it, so it's hard for them to listen to. They have to go find a tape player,

cassette player, and then go through this whole thing. And yeah, I don't know, man, I don't know what the hype's about. I was really not that much to do. Oh wow, how many episodes did you get into? About three? Oh, you went through three? Yeah.

Oh wow. Yeah, at that felt it was like, it's a teeny-bopper for me. Well, yeah, it's a, I mean, it's about high school. It's like teeny-bopper? Dude, it was, yeah, it's like, they reminded me of, get off my lawn. I know how everybody was into like,

werewolves and vampires and shit and teenagers. Like, this is like the next thing. What's the next thing? I think it's better than that, because that whole, that thing was all lovey and romantic. It's like, yeah. So what do you guys tell him about?

What's the next thing? You know, he's saying that 13 reasons why he's talking about that show. Oh, that Netflix show. Yeah, that I told you is any kind of, you're right. It's, it is totally high school, but let's be honest, the secrets out. I listen to, or I watch 16 and pregnant.

So yeah, I could see you get into that. Yeah, no, it's, you always watch that. You watch catfish. What I will say, no, what I will say is that I haven't gotten gone back to it. I'm on probably episode 12, 10 or 12. And I haven't gone back, but the reason why I haven't was, as much as I was sucked into it, I was telling Katrina the other day,

because I binge listened or watched it, right? You know, like three, four at a time, back to back. And then about the third time I did that, I was like, I need a break from all the depressing, like, sad shit. You know, it's the whole thing is about a girl who commits suicide. So as as gripping as it is, as much as you're in, you get like, okay, I'm over like this like negative shit. I need to watch something that's just good entertainment or action or positive or funny, anything but this. So I actually haven't watched it in a few days because I actually felt myself being like,

you get sucked down. Speaking of positive, let me get sucked up. Speaking of positive and amazing, how great was the kettlebell competition this weekend? Was it really good time? It was incredible. I had some electric. Electric. This was the first time we've ever seen, all of us right you guys have never seen a live event No, the community

Very supportive I haven't been to very many events where I saw people that supportive like first and second place high five In each other, I know you know, I thought for sure out the one of the events was very competitive I think it was the men's long cycle very very competitive and what they they use a What did they call it? What is the number they use it is a Come on math guys. I remember yeah the coefficient. Oh, they use a coefficient to figure out who wins because some guys are heavier than others I like the sound of it. They're using different different, you know, weighted kettlebells or whatever and the coefficient You don't necessarily so you could have done more reps on the next guy, but because you're heavier, because you're using, you know, kettlebell or whatever, it doesn't give you the same score.

And so it was super close first and second place. And I'm like, oh man, these guys are going to maybe, it's cool. It's cool. The term that they use, it's called the cool. It's like a handicap in golf. Kind of. Yeah. And no man, they were high five in each other.

The crowd was super supportive. It was a great event. I think it was. I mean, it was very inclusive kind of a sport, you know, where like you saw little kids even getting involved, you know, both genders, like it's just like anybody, like old young, like it just feels like there's everybody's just like super positive and supportive,

which was really cool to see, because you don't see that. I mean, I just remember even going to a CrossFit event initially, and I was like into it, and just like everybody gets into this really ultra competitive mode, and they're trying to squash everybody and like even see, like I don't really see any elements of that, that kind of a competitiveness.

That was interesting. There was super supportive and it was a great event, took a lot of prep. I was super nervous going into, I don't know about you guys. Oh really? Yeah. Because it was our first competing,

so there wasn't really reason to do that. I know, for real, right? It was because it was our first event at our place. It's because Sal didn't want to clean the bathroom. There's a lot of prep that goes into it and I was just like, man, I wanted to make sure we ran smoothly and without a hitch. And it did run well.

That big thing to Mike, so let me and, and we know what my favorite part was. What? That they call it a sport. That it's called kettlebell sport. Yeah, because it's not just kettlebell. Yeah, it's just not kettlebell. It's not kettlebell the answer to your health

and we, you know, go for a young sport. The fact they call it kettlebell sport is what I love the most about it because I really, I really loved CrossFit when I was first introduced to it. Not like I loved it because that's something I would want to do on a regular basis, but because I was like, damn, this is like legit. If these athletes got to be bad ass to do this, so I had a lot of respect for somebody who would have to train the body to go through what the CrossFit workouts are like, the

problem I have with it is it shouldn't say CrossFit sport, just like kettlebell sport, because it is a sport, it's very cool to watch, it's very, to see these guys do these 10 minute cycles. Dude, that is insane. You get, here's what, I mean, here's what it basically is. You're doing a kettlebell snatch, one arm snatch, for 10 minutes straight.

Can't put it down. You can switch hands, but you can't put it down. A complete rep is what they count, right? And some of these guys were using like 30, I think 30 kilo kettlebells, right? When they noticed a difference between like when somebody had just like insanely awesome mechanics and like their skill set was just awesome to watch because it

was so fluid how easy they were just putting these numbers. Well, we watched, we watched 18 year MLB pro, Marlon Bird. Oh, he competed it. Get beat by a guy who weighed like about 120 pounds wet, right? You know, with the same weight because his mechanics were so freaking awesome. And I mean, you looked at, Marlon Bird was massive, dude. And he did perform extremely well.

And he performed extremely well. I think, did he get second, he got second place. He got second wild card event. Yeah, he got second place and he did incredible. I mean, he's a badass no doubt. And he's also only been doing the sport for a couple of years, they said. So he's just really, and he was going against somebody who's like a 10 year vet, but that

just goes to show you like, I mean, the sport isn't an ultimate expression of mobility, endurance, and strength all combined. Like, it really is. And so it's neat to see that. And someone with really good mechanics, it was amazing to see how much of a gap difference it was for somebody who was just learning, you know, made a big point though. This is where, you know, I see like,

it's the ultimate expression of this skill that they've acquired over all these reps and sharpening and fine-tuning that very specific swing and that style or everything, you know, that does put you ahead of everybody else when you master it at that level. Yeah, it's, I mean, it's, when you're seeing someone do a five minute set or a ten minute set, and then you get to like the last 30 seconds, and they're shaken and their, their body wants to break down, but they keep going. It makes it, just, it's, it's exhilarating to watch, and then you hear people cheering to keep going. We had a lot of first-timers compete, a couple of our long-time fans, Jackie Martinez competed,

and her first event, which was great to work with. Yeah, shout out to Jackie, she kicked ass. She kicked ass and Stephanie Orbegaud, one of our other, yep, she was up there. And we had two, there's two little kids competing. They didn't look any, one of the little boy didn't look like he was in the older than like four or five years old. He was a little guy and he was doing the kettlebell cycles. That was pretty awesome. I see a little weight belt. I love it. I love seeing that. Where do you find a weight belt for a little kid?

I don't know, a little weight belt. It was the kid who's ever seen a... How about the guy pulled that out and actually could almost put that around where sheels waste. Oh, okay. So she could actually get it around her waist and almost get it to the first loop. And it was literally like this big, you know what I'm saying? That's crazy. That means I could take my hands and actually touch both fingers all get it around her waist and almost get it to the first loop and it was literally like this big You know, I'm saying that's crazy. That means I could take my hands and actually touch both fingers all the way around the way So it's crazy crazy, but it was it was a lot of fun made a lot of good friends I'm excited to you know in the future get more involved with the sport. I hope we bring some

Some light to it, you know people get more you know introduced to what it is and what it looks like in the community Oh so much. I see a lot of potential. A half the time I was, I spent, on that bottoms up press. Enjoying the show, the other half I spent, like kind of taking notes on things to enhance the, the viewership, our enhanced experience of the spectator because it's not the most spectator friendly,

especially, and that's not because the sport isn't awesome. It's because it's so so it's so much in its Infancy right now that they have an established no one's thinking right now They're just thinking about how to make these cool events and compute and the competitors and what that experience is like now How do you pull the crowd in yeah exactly like they really haven't needed to understand it at a deeper level quickly So yeah, that needs to be a way to kind of describe what's going on And and really bring that crowd element into the sport level quickly. So yeah, there needs to be a way to kind of describe what's going on and really bring that crowd element into the sport.

Well, I hope that that's something that we actually play a role in. I mean, now experiencing it, I think we've all kind of challenged ourselves to kind of dive deeper into the sport, probably go to more events and check it out. And then from there, find a way to make it more spectator friendly because, you know, right away, I saw little things like, man, I wish I knew, you know, what level this person's at, what right away, I saw little things like, man, I wish I knew what level this person's at, what weight that kettlebell is. If I was watching, there's times where you'll see two people right next to each other and you see the counter,

because you see that in front of you. And someone's at 78, the other person's at 35, when you're hit, you just assume the guy who's at 75 is winning, but he could potentially be doing half the weight the guy to the right of him is, and really it's the other way around. And so I think showing that to the spectators and getting them so they can see that, I think we'll make it way more friendly to watch. I do too.

I think it's got a lot of potential. When you find a sport or something or some type of anything, where you see a fan base with that kind of fervor, and that involvement in fanaticism, there's a lot of potential for growth. And going into it, I'm like, okay, I wanna watch and see why people are so, why there can be, it's a small community,

it's a small sport right now, but why are the people who do it so damn, like, into it, man? Like everybody's super, super into it. And having attended the event, I can tell you pretty conclusively now, there's a couple factors. Number one, it is a test of will. It is you are watching someone who's for five or 10 minutes, really just breaking mental barriers as they continue grinding

through this particular movement. So that's when you watch it and you see it happening in front of you, you just, you stand behind that person. So there's that. There's also the family feel of the community behind it where everybody's just so super supportive. And I think that has a large play into it because a lot of the people we met will go

to these catabell gyms and imagine going into a gym and learning how to work out or wanting to work out or learning the sport and you're in this like super supportive environment. Like that's a recipe for success. Another observation that I made that was pretty cool is anytime I meet an athlete for a sport that I'm not familiar with, I always look at their body

to see like what areas are really developed or where I notice, you know, the strength or whatever, like if you see power lifters or if you see, you know, Olympic weight lift or whatever, there's always, they have a kind of look to them, right? Kettlebell athletes have the strongest fucking hands I've ever shaken hands with, like every one of them.

You grab their hand and it was like a mitt, like just a meaty, the girls even, like they grab your hands like, holy shit, they've got strong hands. And when you watch these people swing a kettlebell for 10 minutes, you know why yeah You get it you go you know why and there was that one dude that I don't remember his name the fucking Dan Does it the no the giant oh the big big dude?

John was John. Yeah, it is John super nice guy massive human the guy who won the bottoms up press though Do the bottoms up damn yeah? Yeah, yeah, and he's what he's what was that 40 kilo kettlebell. He is Instagram if you want to check him out. It's a hipster. Yeah muscle hipster is his he's not a huge guy. No, he's probably what is good size though. He's not strong. No, no, no, no, he's built, but he's not massive. He's probably how much would you guess he weighed about 200 pounds maybe? Oh god no bro. Oh he's 2.30. You think so? Oh yeah, yeah. He's really oh, yeah. No, he's he's a big boy He's not little at all. No, I don't think he's little, but I don't think he's massive. Oh, yeah, no He's pretty I mean, I don't know what you got some place. He's about 225

200 pounds at least but a 40 pound kettlebell upside down Strict press. Yeah, very very hard to do. He low that's he low He did that was almost 90 pounds, like 80, 80 something. It was almost 90. It was not as happy for that. I'm not. I'm not. That's it.

Yeah, that was 90, like 90 pounds bottoms up price. That's ridiculous, dude. He won 500 bucks for that. And he has an epic beard. Yeah. So, it was fun to watch. Yeah. Makes me even cooler.

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This is good. So inflammation, we're all told it's super bad. It's like the root of all disease, stop inflammation at all costs, because inflammation will give you cancer, heart disease, dementia, Alzheimer's, basically never have inflammation, right? Right, no.

It's part of the muscle growth process you did the inflammatory the the process of inflammation the creation of inflammatory markers is a very important system in the body it's a very important signaling system in the body inflammation lets your body know that it needs to send repair, rebuild and repair chemicals and nutrients to targeted areas. So if I work out my quads and zero inflammatory process was completely eliminated, my body wouldn't have that signal to know to repair and rebuild my quadriceps. So it's a very, very important part of the entire process. In fact, there's studies that have shown that when people take really strong anti-inflammatories

consistently or constantly when they work out, like, you know, ibuprofen or a leave or any of the brand name NSAIDs, that they actually reduce their adaptation from the exercise, so they don't build muscle as quickly. And over time, there's evidence to suggest that it increases the risk of further injury. And you can see this even with more extreme forms of anti-inflammatory treatment like cortisone shots. You know, when you go get a cortisone shot in your knee

or whatever the doctor will say, okay, I can only give you so many of these because it actually can cause degeneration of that particular joint because those signals aren't there. And then on the flip side, I'll use a very more specific example of how inflammation can actually help the signaling process or as part of the signaling process. Arachidonic acid, which is a fatty acid found in red meat, in some studies is shown to,

because it is part of the inflammatory process, so if you have a lot of racodonic acid, you'll get more inflammation. Well, in some cases, eating more racodonic acid makes you build more muscle. So inflammation is not all bad, and trying to stop it with like, you know, medications and stuff. Here's, I do want to talk about where it is important though

and where it is okay and where you wouldn't want to let it take its course where you would try and bring down the inflammation immediately after a workout is if you are some sort of an athlete that needs to be performing like for example an NBA player who is playing four games a week. So basically every other day he's having to run up a down the court his knees get inflamed. And so that's the reason why you see them immediately put ice on it because at that point, they're not looking for the greatest adaptation process to build more muscle. They're looking at, we need to bring this inflammation up. The least amount of harm. Yes, the least amount of harm and to not hinder his next gain that he has to be in within a day.

So that's where there's kind of this exception, the rule. If you're the average person who is trying to just recover and build muscle and improve your performance, letting that process happen naturally, not trying to take any sort of pills or icing it like crazy, that's not as advantageous as it would be for an athlete, wouldn't you say, Justin? Yeah, absolutely. I was thinking that immediately, especially from in football, let's say I was doing double days. I remember that's when I actually would go into an ice bath and I would do that in between practices because it was just basically I was trying to prevent any

more problematic stress to the joints. I'm trying to preserve You know all my tissue going into then the following day and then the day after that. So it was just a lot of A lot of trauma that I was applying to my body. So really it was just like because you don't have a choice You're practicing and you're you're playing in a sport that requires you to do double days or show up and play managing Yeah for survival for like you know running at that high octane pace. So, yeah, in those situations, it makes sense. But yeah, like if you're trying to actually overcome, you need that stressor, that inflammation signal to then be able to overcome the environment gets stronger.

So it plays an important role for strength building. You know what it reminds me of? So we know that antioxidants, for example, that eating a diet that's high in antioxidants can help reduce your risk of getting cancer, right? Because antioxidants reduce oxidative stress. Oxidative stress can cause these, like free radicals, can cause changes in your genes,

which thing can cause problems with getting cancer. And so people think, oh great, what I should do then is take high super high doses of antioxidants, especially when I'm a half cancer, because that'll help kill cancer cells. Well, the opposite is actually true. If you take some studies show that taking super high doses of antioxidants actually strength in cancer. And because again, you're interrupting certain signals in the body that are necessary. They're there for a reason. Now, if they go, if they get at a hand, like if inflammation gets at a hand, that's when we have a problem.

But really, it's the systemic inflammation that we're looking at, which has more to do with things like sleep and overuse and nutrition. But, you know But a couple of things that dampening the inflammatory response will do. If you try and dampen it too much, this is all proven mice studies. You'll decrease protein synthesis. You can impair mitochondrial adaptation. They've shown this in mice. You can impair satellite cell increases. They've also shown this in mice.

And you can alter glucose metabolism. So what you're trying to do, and don't forget, when you exercise, what you're really trying, what you're doing, you're sending a stress signal to the body, and that's why your body builds muscle and adapts. And what you're doing by taking medications that stop or prevent or dampen the inflammatory process, is you're actually, it's almost like you're shooting

yourself in the foot, like, I want to send this signal, but now I'm trying to stop the signal. It's like make up your mind, right? You want to get the signal out there. So don't try to dampen the signal through some of these acute measures like taking medications. Icing, you know, you were just using icing as an example. Icing has been shown also to reduce the adaptation process. but again, maybe it helps you train harder and longer, and maybe that's the goal. So then in that case, then you probably should use it. In the long term is it good for you? No, because in the long term,

you'll probably end up with more damage. So I would say as far as inflammation is concerned, if you want to optimize inflammation so that it does what it's supposed to, and so that it doesn't run amuck, really look at things like sleep, undulate it, diet, don't over train, and your inflammation will be more appropriate. Quick interruption by our sponsors, you guys, lots of people been asking us how they can support the MindPup Mafia family. Our first one is our Chimera coffee that we love. You guys go to chimeracoffee.com that's Chimera with a K for 10% off. Don't forget mine pump at the checkout. We also have our big top beard company dot com for 33% off. Also

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That's chaming.com. You know, I so there's this is the example of our the pendulum swinging one way then swinging the other way so far, you know saying It was just so here's the irony in this because I see this all the time I have There's friends of friends that I see will post lots of stuff in there. I have a friend and they're very they're really overweight I'll use certain people's example obviously I'm not gonna put them on blast and they're very they're really overweight. I'll use certain people's example Obviously, I'm not gonna put them on blast but they're very overweight Very unhealthy very nice people, but they'll do all these posts about Accepting themselves love their bodies love their body. I love my body. I love my body and Which the message is great the words are great

But when I see what they're doing, what they're really doing is they're trying to, they don't love their body. They're overcomplicating. They're overcomplicating, they're putting it out there. And if they really love their body, they would take care of their body. So there's a thing about,

that's sinking. There's definitely, don't hate yourself because you may be making decisions that are making you overweight and unhealthy. Definitely don't hate yourself, but be honest with yourself and identify what's going on. And if you really love yourself, then what ends up happening is you take care of yourself,

you nourish yourself. I mean, if you had a child that was severely obese and overweight, you would still love them, but you would feed them in a way that would make them healthy. You wouldn't be like, oh my God, I love my child, they're so overweight. Here's some more cupcakes.

Here's some more. Please don't move. Please don't go outside. I agree. Everything you're saying. Let's take all that into account. But let's also remember that obesity on the sun level is a sickness. It's an expression of what's going on internally in your body that's promoting this sort of response

that now I physically manifest the sickness. And we're at a point now where it's like, it's so common that I feel like for the most part, all of our clothing options, all of our food options, all these things revolve a little bit more around, let's say, I'm feeding into this problem. And instead of identifying it as a problem anymore,

it's a standard that's become more prevalent. So, I mean, it's a hard conversation because yeah, like you said, a lot of people do want to love themselves and we want to love people that love themselves. You know, that's a great characteristic to have. But you got to be real. You got to be real with yourself.

Are you benefiting your body? Are you running optimally? Are you doing things that are promoting health internally? So these are questions you should always ask yourself. This was the response to all the fat shaming, right? Like the, I mean, we went, try to get it. I mean, you're an asshole if you're going around calling

people into fat asses, you know, or whatever. Right. So, and I think that that became that bullying mentality and fat shaming. And so here was a response like, love your body. And then you had some celebrities get behind it, and they start promoting and talk about it, and then like anything else, it goes to the extreme,

and that's what we're seeing now, is you're seeing people, and I know this from firsthand, I've trained hundreds of clients just like this, like what Sal was explaining is, they put this facade on, like they're truly happy about their body, the physique, but in reality, that's really just a shield to protect them from what's going on emotionally. When you really start to dive in with a client like that, you find out they got all kinds

of real insecurities and they've just learned how to use that as a protective shield. I'm going to put it out there and more power to them to feel for feeling comfortable like that, but they're still not addressing the root cause. Because like Sal said, if you really loved yourself that much, you would want to nourish and take care of your body. And we're not talking about someone who's carrying a few extra pounds.

Like, let's be honest here, this isn't. This isn't like. I'm glad you said that because this is, there's, there's, okay, first of all, the looking perfect doesn't exist. Okay, most, you're not gonna look perfect. People look different. We all come, we come in all shapes and sizes.

Well, we're talking about as health versus unhealthy. Okay, that's what I'm talking about. And when someone is unhealthy, and they say, no, I'm proud of the way I look, I'm proud of my body. Well, it's not, I mean, first of all, it's not true. Or maybe you are falsely proud, but you're not truly taking care of yourself and loving yourself, and that's okay. There's nothing wrong with that. Look, I do all, it's not true, or maybe you are falsely proud, but you're not truly taking care of yourself

and loving yourself, and that's okay. There's nothing wrong with that. Look, I do things that I'm not, you know, that are not good for me as well. I'm just honest with it. I'm not saying to myself, hey, I'm, you know, I'm proud of, you know, this unhealthy thing or this thing

that I'm doing that's bad for me, or this, you know, this bad behavior that I have. And that's the problem. And here's what I see the fat acceptance movement go wrong. In a big way, it becomes an identity. And so it's like, hey, you got a flat butt. You're skinny. I'm better than you because I'm curvy

or because I'm big or whatever. Or, you know, love my body. My genetics are determined this for you. Yeah, or, you know, big people, you know, I need meat on my bones. I don't want skinny, you know, skinny, or whatever. And then, upshaming big people, you know, I need meat on my bones. I don't want skinny, you know, skinny, wini or whatever. And then up shaming fit people or skinny people,

it becomes the opposite. Like it's okay to talk shit about someone if they're too skinny now, instead of saying that someone may be too heavy. Now, number one, it's not okay to talk about anybody that way. You shouldn't shame anybody for any reason. Someone wants to look a certain way, that's on you. But I think it's ridiculous to think you're being

discriminated against when you go to buy a ticket on an airplane and they tell you gotta buy two tickets because you don't fit in one chair. That's fucking ridiculous. So I've had clients like from the South that I've trained that were really overweight like biggest loser overweight and when they hired me, you know, we'd be dropping know, we'd be dropping the first, you know, 20 pounds down. Still, they got a long ways ago, but they've dropped 20 pounds, go home and visit their family and their family tees and make fun of her because she's not eating more servings on the play and calling her skinny. Yeah.

And it's like they project their insecurities like crazy on people that are trying to, you know, better themselves. I had no idea that this would this happened. Yeah. Until I started getting clients like this, it's very common because once I had it happen once, then I would know to ask about it to the rest of them. And it was, you know, nine times that attend, you know, they would confirm that, oh, yeah, no, when I, because my whole family is big, my whole family is overweight. So if I carry tub wear around or I'm exercising, they are making fun of me. And like I think, whoa, how fucking hard. It's already hard to get yourself in shape, to discipline yourself, to do that, to make

it change for yourself like that. Then when you're getting that, I mean, that's a tough one. It's a tough one. I remember years ago, I'll never forget, I went to a dinner, so at the time, with my wife at the time, we went to one of her company, Dinners, and it's a tech company, and so we're at this big event, and I'm sitting at a table with like,

I remember it was like eight people, and one of the ladies there, I was talking to everybody, everybody was cool, and the other lady there was, pretty overweight, she was obese, she was over 300 pounds. Real ton. And the bread comes out, right? So they pass in the bread around.

So they pass the bread around, everybody takes some bread, and it comes to me, and I just, I don't take one, and I just pass it over. Now, first of all, I kind of stick out a little bit going to this dinner because I come from fitness, and so in this world, people see me and they probably already knew what I did. So now here's this fitness trainer, he looks fit

and he's not eating the bread. Immediately, this lady felt judged. I could tell the look on her face like, oh, he's not gonna have bread. But I didn't say anything. I was like, what, she made a couple of comments. I didn't say anything. So then, something else happened

and I didn't have another dish or dessert. I didn't have dessert and she goes, why don't you eat the bread or the dessert to me? And so I'm like, oh, well, actually, you know, gluten kind of bothers me, that has dairy and that bothers me also. And so I don't eat those things. And I'm trying to be like, I don't want to go on the subject, right? And she's like, oh, it's not because of the sugar or the carbs.

I said, well, you know, now she's pushing me a little bit, right? So I'm like, yeah, I don't like to eat too much sugar. It's not really good for me, so I don't like to eat it. And she goes, you know, I had a friend who was just like you. So right away, I'm more like a good guy. Here we go. I had a friend just like you. Super fit.

She ran marathon. She worked out all the time. She ate perfectly. And she died. And then she got cancer. And she died at the age of 48 results. And she goes, you know, I decided after that happened I'm just gonna love and enjoy my life and do whatever I want because who cares?

Because I could just you know, died any moment and whatever and so I'm you know And she's trying to make this big point. She got real passionate about it And she go and insinuating that I hate my life So I looked at her and I said, I said, no, you're absolutely right. I said, look, I don't know if on the way home today after this dinner, I get hit by a car and I die. I have no idea. I said, I don't eat a certain way

and I don't move and exercise because I think it's gonna make me live longer. I said, now statistically, I probably will live longer if I do those things and if I don't, but I don't know what could happen. I said, I don't do them to live longer. I do them to live better. I said, when I don't eat those foods

and when I exercise the way I do, I can move better. I have more stamina. I have higher libido. I have better energy throughout the day. I can think better. I said life is just more vibrant for me because of those things.

So really it's about making my life better Not about making my life longer and of course the look on her face was like with the fuck I say and it's true because you'll hear people in this fat acceptance movement who are on the wrong side of it or using it wrong And they'll say things like I just want to enjoy my life and love my life and The bottom line is like eating healthy is not enjoy. Well the bottom, yes, and not only that, but you know if you're 300, and I'm not talking about your run of the mill, 10, 15 pounds over a way, whatever,

we already talked about that, that's not a big deal, but if you're severely obese and you're not, your life is not as enjoyable as it could be if you were healthy, it's just the bottom line. Whatever you enjoy doing, you enjoy going to the movies, you're like walking at the park, you're like playing video games, all of that is more enjoyable when you're healthy. You in the movies, you're like walking at the park, you're like playing video games, all of that is more enjoyable when you're healthy.

You like having sex, you're like whatever, it's all more enjoyable. You can get up and do things. That's right. So really it's about living better. And the fat acceptance movement is rooted in things I think that are good, but unfortunately it's been taken in many cases to places that are

bad and it's not helping people. Yeah, I think it was better. I think it was very pure. I think when it first started, it was the counter culture to like the extreme, the bodybuilding world, you know, where we're judging you and you have to be 2% body fat and that community and that mindset that's unrealistic for the average person to maintain you know day in and day out for the entire year. That's just not realistic for the average person. So I think this whole you know counter to that was you know the response to all the insecurities

that came from that side of the the finisoo. I also think that now this is the opposite direction completely. And we probably need to be somewhere in the middle, right? We need, I think there's something to be said about accepting yourself and working through those insecurities of, you know, having to look a certain way. I know that it's something that I've continued to have to work on. Well, it's like you've accepted yourself now better yourself. Right. Obviously, that's the first step.

You know, and I feel like that's important. You know, if they can focus on that, like, I am who I am, you know, and I don't need everybody else to dictate that, or tell me, you know, what I'm deficient in, or, you know, like, play off of my insecurities, I need to be comfortable in my own skin. Okay, great.

And once you get there, now let's, let's improve on that. You know, let's not stop there. And I don't know about you guys, but I can say that I have 100% success rate on people that were obese or this overweight, like we're talking about, that I got into shape. 100% of them have all said their life is improved.

Their life is better. Yeah, you know, maybe they didn't live longer like I was saying, but that their day to day life, and it's crazy how much it bleeds into everything else, you know, what you do all day. I remember when I went through and I rewatched the videos that I had made during my transformation, and I remember like not realizing that

even the way I spoke was different. You could hear a change in my energy just from the first video that I took of my, where I was at, you know, just under 20% body fat. And then when you hear me when I got in really good shape and you could just hear, you could hear the energy in my voice. And it wasn't something I tried to do. I didn't even know I did it until I went back and watched it and I went, whoa, I sound depressed right there.

It's just a completely different lifestyle. I mean, I've lived both, like, even just coming from, you know, going in college. I was playing sports and I was like at a high level and I was working out constantly. To then, when I stopped college, I completely shut it off. And I'm hanging out with these dudes and we were all, I mean, they were significantly overweight. Like, I was like, some of my roommates were significantly overweight. And just the lifestyle of it is revolves around, okay, what are we going, where are we going to eat?

Because eat was like the utmost important item of the day. And then after that, once you have that, it's like you sit around, you watch TV, you're literally not motivated to do shit. And I just could not stand it. It's just it ate at me. And it was just one of those things. I get it. You know, I get it. Once you get into the trap of it, it's like it, it, it consumes you. And then that thought process, you know, affects you. Now, that all being said, you know, affects you now that all being said You know you have to ask because a lot of people get pissed off by this movement a lot of fitness people

Well say all the fat acceptance movements fucking stupid like you're fat like get over it man getting shaped like Here's a thing you got to ask yourself this question right here. Why does it piss you off? Why are you so angry that somebody is making this decision for themselves and is accepting, quote unquote, accepting their body, maybe in a unhealthy way. Maybe they're like, we're talking about where they're pretending like they love themselves or that they love their bodies when in fact they don't. But why is it piss you off?

It shouldn't piss you off. I'll tell you why I think it pisses you off because you still not having dealt with your own insecurities. You've done a good job of, you know, be a structure in your life so that you can eat at the right time and eat the right macronutrients and you work out like a fanatic,

but you're suffering from a similar condition to the obese person. The difference is you've become addicted to exercise. So you're hanging on a stream. Yeah, so don't, so here's the thing like, leave, like if somebody wants to be unhealthy, fine. They're not hurting you. Don't make fun of them, don't talk shit to them.

Like let them live their life, that's okay. But on the flip side, if you're that person, do not, don't think you can force other people to accept you because you can't, number one, and number two, don't believe, don't think that you can force businesses and stuff to accommodate for you, because I don't, the fact that like for example, I said earlier that airlines got sued because they would charge the price for two seats to someone who's really obese and they'd say

they're being discriminated against, that's just plain bullshit. Well, this, and that also makes my ticket go up because I'm paying for one and now I got to pay more because they got to give you a free chair because they're all of a sudden discriminating because you don't fit in the chair like the fuck out here. Yeah, no, this feeds right into the whole psychological part, too. I mean, like you said, this is something we just talked about where, you know, this is challenging, but when you get these state changes,

where you get angry or upset about something, where you feel the need to express it like that, it's so hard for people to step outside and think, why does that make me feel that way? They're so focused on what that person is doing that makes them angry, upset. They don't stop to think, why am I, why do I care so much? What is it bothering me so much? Then we just talked about something, episode like there's levels to that to getting to this ultimate self-awareness of being able to catch yourself in those moments. It's hard as fuck, but I tell you what, those are the big growth moments when you catch

yourself feeling so passionate about something that it makes you angry and do you have that willpower to stop in your tracks, assess why you feel that way and completely take the other person out of the scenario and go, what the, why does that create this type of feeling for me and dive deep into that? That'll change your life, man. I swear to God, if you learn to do that. Next question is from Hassan M. Amun.

Best way to recover from a large binge and the best way to prevent it from happening again. So, I think first we need to define what an actual binge is. So it's not just eating something you're not supposed to. I've heard people say, oh, I've been on, you know, I binge yesterday and I'm like, oh, would you eat like two cookies? Okay, that's not really a binge, you just had two cookies. A binge is a little more out of control.

You know, rather, I go to eat one cookie and end up eating the whole package. Yeah, it's more like that. Yeah, that's more of a binge. Now, a binge, we need to make sure we understand what's happening here before we even look at preventing it. A binge is a symptom eruption, okay? It's the reason why a binge occurred in the first place

is because you are through tenacity, you're blocking a signal or a craving through sheer will for a long enough period of time that when there's finally a crack that it could just explode. Which could mean one or two days for somebody. Yeah, it just explodes. You know, it's like a volcano building pressure

and you put a top on that volcano and then it builds up and builds up and builds up and then finally it blows its top. You see this with, this can happen with food, it can happen with sex. You know, you've got people who are abstained from sex and then have these eruptions and go crazy, gambling, drugs.

And it's all over the walls. It can happen with anything. So first off, change the way you look at food and think about food and change the way you talk about it. So people who tend to have binge problems tend to look at food as things they can have and things they can't have. I want to be very clear here. There is no food on earth you can't have and it's all about foods you choose to not have. Change your vocabulary. So rather than saying, I can't have that cookie,

say it, and believe me, it makes a big difference. Say it yourself, I choose to not have that cookie. I don't want that cookie. It makes a big difference because if you're in the mindset of can't, at some point, you're gonna have one, and now you've already broken that rule, and then you go crazy with it. So that's the first thing I'd say.

The second thing is, if you really desire something that badly to where the only way you can prevent yourself from having it, is if you tell yourself you can't have it, well then you should have a little bit. Go have a little bit and tell yourself you can. I'm gonna have some of this. I choose to have a little bit of this. It'll prevent the big benches later on.

And this is, I think, one of the reasons why IAFYM found so much success in people who followed the super strict, regimen at six meal a day, and the same thing every day, because they found that if they allowed themselves to have a little bit here and there that they didn't have these benches. Well, and this is probably, if you were to ask any of us,

one of the things we do like about the IAIFYM is that part of it, right? Is that it is teaching people a better relationship than it is to go super strict, all clean foods, there's clean foods and bad foods. And when you're eating bad foods, you're, you know, it's like this bad thing and then you end up binging. So, as far as a response to the bodybuilding, old school, clean eating diet, it is definitely a- But that's really where it ends. Right, you're right.

It's the body building, clean. It's a clean protocol. Like it's a good, like sort of transition from that, but like coming from somebody that has issues with cake and already binging and then going into, oh well, I could still incorporate this in a healthy diet. Like, I see a lot of flaw in that. No, I see a lot of flaw in that.

I also see a lot of flaw in issues with the cheat days, which is extremely popular on social media. You see people have their Sunday cheat day or Friday cheat day or cheat meal or whatever. That's a structured symptom eruption. Yeah, you're, you're, And that was another thing that I saw really wrong with the bodybuilding community when I was a part of it was this is how the coaches actually coach the athletes. And I thought, man, this is such a a poor way to teach these people

how to eat is to teach them. You eat like this all structured. And then, you know, if we're we're we're we're supposed to be, you look right or your weights where it's supposed to be, I'll give you a cheat day. And you just are enforcing a really bad relationship. You're like dogs. You are, you're, you're, you're, you're training them incorrectly. And you're already, and you're working into already a very challenging situation for most trainers that they have to overcome when they get a client

is teaching these good relationships with food. and now you're doing this whole cheat day and cheat meal and it's become extremely popular within the fitness community and I hate it. Now let's say you've done a bit, let's say you've been, you've had a binge, how do you recover from it? Step one, don't judge yourself for it. Right, okay, because don't go the other extreme. Right, starve and cardio the next day, which is what a lot of people do. Well, because that leads to another binge.

Right, it's what led up to it. Right, well, it leads to another binge. Like, if I binge right now and I'm done and now I'm hating myself, I'm hating my life, I got, I can't believe I did that. I'm such an idiot. Okay, tomorrow, I'm super strict. I'm gonna work out so super hard.

Again, I'm gonna seal up that volcano again and allow that pressure to build and all it's gonna do is it's gonna promote another binge. So, first thing you do is don't judge yourself for it. It happened, I get it, no problem. Now moving forward, I'm just gonna be cool with myself, I'm not gonna, I'm not angry with myself, I'm gonna eat normal, I'm not gonna try and make up for it. Cause trying to make up for it is horrible. Doesn't work, your body doesn't work that way.

Just go about your daily. And if you feel like you really, really, really crave something and you really want it and you're like, you know what? I'm gonna have this whatever food. Allow yourself to have that food. Or if you don't want it, don't tell yourself you can't have it. Literally say it out loud. I choose to not eat that food. I don't want it, don't tell yourself you can't have it. Literally say it out loud. I choose to not eat that food.

I don't want that food. It changes everything I promise you. I choose you. What's the guys ever see that book? I know that there's a lot of different methods to helping somebody with this. What's worked really well for me and the clients that I've helped is we typically will take all assess a diet where I tell them, you know, don't try and impress me, eat,

how you normally eat, and then we look at it together and I look at some of the things that could be causing the most problems, whether it be inflammation or too much weight or, you know, low energy, whatever the case may be. I'll look at that and then I'll give them other alternatives in replace of that and then we'll try that one thing out and that's it. And then we're going to see how they, and then we're going to assess how they feel and

then we'll take something else in their diet that is probably more optimal for them than a choice that they may be doing. And so I pick one thing at a time and introduce that or take it away from the diet and then together, I'm asking and teaching them how to connect the dots with how they feel, how they sleep, how they scan, how's their energy, how they're cravings, all these things and addressing it like that versus

you're somebody who eats a ton of bad shit and by bad, I mean things that are not optimal are super healthy for you. And those things are a bulk of your diet and then you go, I'm gonna go from this extreme to the other extreme, more often than not, that leads to benching. So one of the ways to help prevent it is,

slowly taking things out and then assessing how you feel and then learning to connect the dots to how your body feels from that not being in your diet versus taking it all at once and thinking that, oh, in order for me to feel and look this way, I got to eliminate all that stuff when it's not really like that. All right. Next question is from Bearded Iron 25. If you could go back to any time in history, where would you go and who would you see? Oh man, I so many times,

I could think that I would like to go back and meet, but I'll, this is an easy one that would be super fun. I would love to go back to the 1940s and 50s when resistance training with weights started to gain a little, it was very cultish still, but it gained a little bit of popularity. And I would have loved to have worked out in some of those old school gyms

with some of those old lifters like, you know, John Grimick and some of those old guys, and lifted with them and just seeing how I could do in the sport of strength and the impact I could make back then. I think it would have been really, really cool to see just some of the information that they would have and their training methodology.

I think it would have been really cool. Or even go back to the 70s and trained with guys like Arnold. The camaraderie that they had back then, that would have been super fun also. Bring my current knowledge back then to your blurry ones mind. I got it, what? I don't know where.

You guys, I invented something. You'd be like a superhero back then. I mean, I would love to go back and meet somebody like a, you know, Marcus really is or someone crazy like that and sit down and listen to them just talk to you. But then again, I wouldn't want to be a part of that time or that era. So when I think you're like, you got like die. You got to cut your hand off. Yeah, so I don't know if I want to be a part of that time or that era. So when I think, oh, you got to die.

You got to take your hand off. Yeah, so I don't know if I want to be around that time, although that's somebody who I think would be amazing to sit down and just listen to them speak. But I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I think that the 20s and or the 50s, I think would be in it with the style. The way we dress, we dress so much sharper and we looked more presentable and it just seemed like a classy era and time to be a part of. So I would love to go back just for those silly reasons. You know what's funny too is if you think about it,

like, because when you think of the 50s, that's what you think, right? Oh, sharp clothes. Yeah, it's fine. It's done. You know what we're thinking is, we're thinking of the 50s the way it was depicted in media.

Of course, because that's all we have to go off of. You go back to the real, you go back to the real 50s, I'm sure there was obviously more poverty. People, you know, women weren't treated very well. My Norties were treated very well. Yeah, it was probably a shitty shot. Well, I think we all, I think we'd all agree that we'd rather go forward in time than backward in time or stay in time than anything because because I want to be older in the 80s. That's not what it would be. What do you mean? That like I want to go back like as old as I am now until 1980, when the access was hitting, and all that cool shit was going on,

like the hair metal. And shitty cars though. Yeah, they did. They were slow as hell. But that's why you drive the cool old hot rods from 1950s, you know, super them up. Yeah, I could do that, and then Max head strung, all that kind of shit.

How cool would it be? Michael Jackson, I would, I would hit up every Michael Jackson concert. Would you really? Hell yeah. You like Michael Jackson? He's the best. I would think, I would think though, in the roaring 20s, when like alcohol is hitting the scene, like we,

we're seeing that kind of crazy, the way it is with, with a medical marijuana, right? And like the frenzy that's happening right now, and just, I can't imagine, like, and you're coming off the depression, right? And like the frenzy that's happening right now, and just, I can't imagine, like, and you're coming off the depression, right? So imagine like what a party scene that must have been like, I can't help but think that had to been pretty wild. And exciting, exciting time.

Driving lambo's, and you know, like, like, what the 80s? Yeah, man, the Magnopiivi. Never been a helicopter, you know what I'm saying? Like, man, man, the Magnepi. I mean, you know what I mean? Hellocopter, you know what I'm saying? Like, like, your guy, your best friend is a helicopter. He follows you around and Ielin, you know, like you just do a bunch of coke and hookers. I feel like you're talking about Miami Vice, the TV show.

Not like what really, not what really happens. I feel like that was in the 80s. Hey, don't poop who on our time in our era. Just because you're just a little bit further in the future and there's definitely a lot better technology. I don't know. I was like so young. I didn't appreciate it.

I think it'd be cool to go back and like me, like some of the most brilliant might, like Leonardo da Vinci. Like that guy would have been fucking awesome, right? He probably was way too crazy. At what point though, he was like a kid when he was doing some of his greatest work. I don't know, man.

So think about that. Would you ever real conversation? Yeah. He's probably like, yeah, yeah. I know, he's thought. I don't know, man. So think about that. Would you ever real conversation with me? He's probably like, nah, I know, he's not. I like to go back and go. Leave me alone, you know what's mine? Be like, let me teach you about quantum physics. Don't you think someone like that too?

From my experience, meaning some really, really intelligent, brilliant minds, especially someone like that, an artist in like one area, they're just so amazing, brilliant. He was probably up to the top two. fucking oh he's probably a fucking mess everywhere. I was you say news. Well I hope to hold a conversation. He was brilliant artist, a brilliant scientist

and philosopher. Geez. What else could the guy do? Yeah, there's gotta be you gotta be in. You gotta have something else to get. He's probably hilarious and you know, this guy's got all magic. Yeah, yeah.

You know what would be Lady Killer? You know it would be cool. But if I went you know it would be would be. It would be a lady killer. You know, it would be cool. But if I went, you know, it would be even cooler. It would be good. Go back in time and meet like your great-grandfather or something like that. Now that would be cool for me. And I think that we've someone brought this. Actually, someone did bring this up a long time ago.

And that's what I shared my trip. I looked just like my friend. I shared my father, right? Because I didn't have that relationship. He died when I was seven. So to go back and see him, you know, in his 20s and be able to meet him during that time I think would be for me epic like so and I would way rather do that than meet some famous person who I've read about in a history book or watched on TV you know a

movie a documentary about so I think I every one of us would probably if you really thought deeply about it there's probably somebody in your family that you would would rather go back and meet and get to hang out with because I think that in itself is pretty neat to see this. It's neat to see, and I know you guys have to with kids. It's gotta be so fascinating to look at them and see yourself in them.

And then that has to trigger that, like, God, I wonder what my great-grandfather and which one of your great, great, great, great, are you most like? And did you have someone in your family tree that was like literally almost identical to you, maybe purse, maybe not look wise, but personality wise. Well, you know what's weird about that is that when you're a kid, I don't know if you guys did this, but you know, when I was a kid, I really tried to identify strongly with my dad because he was my male role model, right?

And I'm like, God, you know, I want to be so much like my dad, because he was my male role model, right? And I'm like, God, I want to be so much like my dad. And so I thought that a lot of my traits were from my father's side, or at least I wanted them to be, right? And as I got older and more objective, I realized that a lot of my traits are from my mother's side, like to talk and express myself, and the charisma side. That's all my mom's side.

Like my mom's side of the family, like my grandfather, my uncles, my aunt, they're all salespeople, they're all communicators, and I'm more like they are than I am more like my dad's side. Or sometimes you look at a picture and you're like, oh, I look so much like my great grandfather, but he probably was nothing like you besides that. You never know, you know what I mean?

It would be cool to go back in time to see who you're actually, you could be an aunt, you know what I mean? You could go back in time, I'm actually a lot like my aunt right and nothing like the guys My aunt in 1930 and how did she act? You know say what was what was going through her head during that time? I think that's cooler than actually going back ourselves or meeting you know or meeting somebody who we don't want to delorean Yeah, I'll make this happen. I'd go just play the lottery We still got 30 days of coaching for free. It's still available.

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