Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 507: German Volume Training Pros & Cons, Steroids in Sports, Recommended Reading for 21 Year Old Self & MORE

Episode Date: May 12, 2017

In this episode of Quah, sponsored by Big Top Beard Company (bigtopbeardcompany.com, code "mindpump" for 33% off), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about the relevance of steroids in major professional sports, the books they would tell their 21 year old selves to read, what they would put in their own bat cave and German Volume Training does it put on mass? Get our newest program, Kettlebells 4 Aesthetics (KB4A), which provides full expert workout programming to sculpt and shape your body using kettlebells. Only $7 at www.mindpumpmedia.com! Get MAPS Prime, MAPS Anywhere, MAPS Anabolic, MAPS Performance, MAPS Aesthetic, the Butt Builder Blueprint, the Sexy Athlete Mod AND KB4A (The MAPS Super Bundle) packaged together at a substantial DISCOUNT at www.mindpumpmedia.com. Make EVERY workout better with our newest program, MAPS Prime, the only pre-workout you need… it is now available at mindpumpmedia.com Have Sal, Adam & Justin personally train you via video instruction on our YouTube channel, Mind Pump TV. Be sure to Subscribe for updates. Please subscribe, rate and review this show! Each week our favorite reviewers are announced on the show and sent Mind Pump T-shirts! Have questions for Mind Pump? Each Monday on Instagram (@mindpumpradio) look for the QUAH post and input your question there. (Sal, Adam & Justin will answer as many questions as they can)

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I'm gonna push some limits today just so you guys know. So just a little heads up, I'm gonna, you know what I'm gonna make Justin do this face a couple times, you guys, there's someone so you guys know. So just a little just a little heads up. I'm gonna, I'm gonna make Justin do this face a couple times. He says, someone like you guys, ah, like fucked up. Where are we going? Like he's taking a shit. Justin gets it when Justin's, when I say shit,

that makes him nervous, it looks like he's gonna take a shit. Oh, you've noticed that, yeah. And Sal does this like, fuck. Do you know why? I see he's going like, we're gonna have to delete that. Do you know why, you know why Justin looks like he's gonna take a shit when that happens? Cause he is.

Yeah. It does make him need to shit. It starts processing immediately. No, I don't look face to why I make, I'm kinda like. You do this like, there we go. Yeah, exactly, it's like this. Fucking hell. No, you get like a smile and then your eyes

kinda go up like, Ah. Yeah. Yeah, it's cause it's like, Oh, you get like a smile and then your eyes kind of go up like, ah. Yeah. Yeah, it's because it's like, it's like, oh, you're getting excited. Sounds like conflicted about it. When I say SIF that's over, like there's a,

it's like, I agree with this motherfucker. And he's like, I don't know what we should say. He's saying it, but. Well, we're both, we're, we're both controversial, but in different ways, you know what I'm saying? Like I'll be controversial with the like, so you really think that your diet recommendations are healthy. Like that kind of controversy.

Adam's controversy is like, you're an idiot. Do you have rape fantasies? Yeah. Like shit like that. I'm not pulling one out of my ass by the way. I was like, that's a real thing for this. There's like so many records that skip in my brain.

You're like, eh, eh, eh. Hello. There's like so many records that skip in my brain Doctor so-and-so do you? Who are you dating? I'm a doctor. You like anal sex Speaking of doctors. You're out there picking fights with doctors again. I see you I see you this morning Dude, I love his response. You're dumb. How about the boost? That's his comeback? The irony, the irony of,

it's so great, right? And I knew it as soon as I saw Sal respond and then go back and forth. And I see him firing back and he's like, who the fuck is this guy, right? And I know who it is. And I don't want to, I don't want to tell him. I wanted to keep going.

You know who it is, yeah. I told him what he got here. Yeah, I told him what he got here. I told him what he got here. I said, oh, by the way, that's the doctor that reached out to us that wanted to become our virtual doctor. And we are like, we know that's okay. That's cool.

Well, it's such a irresponsible fucking post. And the only reason why I even commented on it was because he had a doctor in his title. And look, I'll tell you what, if you're a fitness idiot You know like your typical Instagram fitness idiot and you make and you make stupid memes and you post stupid stuff We expect that whatever. I'm not gonna say anything unless you have a massive following because I feel like it's my responsibility But when you use your PhD, but it says you know try and fucking sound smart

But it's shit you don't know about it says doctor in the title and about shit you don't know about. It says doctor in the title, and the meme is how protein shakes help with weight loss. And it's got these two comparative, like, potential diets. Okay, so let me just read this to you, or just pick a picture. I saw that in the 90s.

It's, so it's like two comparable diets, right? The first one has sensible breakfast, and then a burger fries and soda for lunch, and then sensible dinner. The second one says sensible breakfast, protein shake, sensible dinner. Oh wow, you'll lose weight with the second option. It's like, okay, that's like me making a meme like,

here's fire, put your hand in fire. It burns, like no shit. This is the slim fast model. Remember slim fast? Yes, back in the 80s and 90s. This is the slim fast model. Remember slim fast? Yes. Back in the 80s and 90s. And then it became Shakeology. And then just gets repackage and repurpose. So I'm just like, listen, dude, I told him, are you really trying to say like protein shakes are great meal replacement? That's what people should do. It's slightly better than eating

shitty food, but it's really, and is it long-term? And I guess he's an obesity specialist, and he's like, you should come see the data. I'm like, yeah, people are gonna fucking lose weight when you cut their calories. Nobody's debating that, you're moron, but let's look at the long-term success of this. All of your super obese patients that you put on these fucking shakes.

Let's see them five years from now. This is what's wrong. I was just having this conversation with Taylor. I was kind of in giving, he was asking me like, hey, you know, the more he's learning about Paul Check, he's just like, man, this guy's so awesome, he's so smart. You know, what is it? And I'm like, well, here's the irony, right?

I said, I don't even know if the guy finished high school. I said, he's completely self-taught. But what he did different than what most people do here in America is he's not specialized in just one part of the body. Like that's what happens here. Like you become this specialist in an area and that's all your hyper now there's pluses to that right because you spent eight years of schooling and all your studying and all your research in this area or part of a body or a senior lane.

Yeah, well it's single topic right. Well, even that. Here's the problem with that. Like, you get someone like this who's an obesity specialist. Like, what the fuck does that mean? Like, that means that all you study is people that are overweight, right, that have these eating problems. And then you put a study together, like,

what Sal's talking about where you replace a meal with a protein shake. Like, no fucking shit, they're gonna lose weight. Can I taste it? You're not addressing the psychological issues at these people at all. No, not at all. You're not addressing the, issues and these people at all. No, not at all. You're not addressing and let's be honest,

that's where the real root cause is there. It's not in their calories. Their calories is just a part of the problem. The real problem starts with them inside and what's going on in their fucking head. Well, do you know how many people I've worked with, how many times I've had clients come to me who have gone to doctors like this and lost, you

know, oh, I lost 80 pounds, I lost, you know, 90 pounds. And the way they lost the weight was almost every single time the doctor took food away and replaced it with shakes and bars. This is the protocol that Western medicine has had now for decades. For every single obesity clinic does this. Every single one, and are you gonna get short-term weight loss? Of course, that's so stupid. Nobody's gonna debate that, but is it working? Well, no, we've had convenient low calorie meals

available to us, frozen meals forever. Jenny Craig is done this forever, right? We've had these forever forever and people are still getting sicker and fatter. And let's also look at these protein shakes for a second. I hate constantly hammering on supplements, but I have to do it, right? It doesn't get more processed than a protein powder.

It does, even the most processed microwave dinner that you buy at the grocery store, that you pull out of the freezer His lesson and you pop in the microwave and it heats it up and now you've got Sal'sberry steak, you know broccoli and there's gravy or whatever Oh my god, Sal's berry steak That's a real TV dinner, right? Yeah That, what is a Sal'sberry steak?

I remember hungry man. What is a Sal'sberry steak? I've never had it. I've never had it in a restaurant It's a shitty-ish. I'm a cut on this. I love it. I love it. I like it. I think it's a step like above spam. But anyway, that is less processed than a powder

that has a incredibly long shelf life that tastes like cookies and cream that you stir in water and you have protein and calories or whatever in there. It doesn't get more processed that you've literally taken food and turned it into a powder. How can you get anything more processed than that and these people are using that as a replacement for food and telling people this is a great way to lose weight. It's not, dude.

I'm sorry. And the fact that you're a doctor and you're promoting this makes me angry. Well, and here's the thing, and I know he's younger. I know he's younger than we are. So what era is for me? I was reading him going back and forth, and what really irritates me is for him to be so naive, to say some shit that he's got more experience

with obese people, because you went through school for this, and then now you have your clinic, like you're arguing with somebody who's 38 years old, who's got 20 years of training people and it will be, how many obese people do you think you've had sit in front of you over the last 20 fucking years? Like, get the fuck out of here, bro. I don't care if you've been holding classrooms full of fat people for the last four years. You're not going to, you're not going to have put the time in to what it, and see how many of those people you help,

and let's be honest, right? How many of these people did we help that way originally? I'll be, that's what I did. That's why I'm so angry about it. Yeah, that's what we were taught. It's like, yeah, I did the same thing. I put somebody on some low-calorie diet, ran the fuck out of them for six months.

They lost 60 pounds, we high-fived each other. They went along their way. They came back, I saw them two years later, and they were fatter than what they were when I got them. You know what I'm saying? And that was a common theme with these obese people because I wasn't really helping this. It's not real life.

You're not addressing the root cause, right? That's everything we've been talking about is the root cause, root cause of stuff. It starts in their head. You're not teaching them anything. No. You know, they're not learning anything. All they're doing is they're following this protocol. And then once it ends, how do you transition from there

to real life situations where you're at somebody's house? You have to make decisions. They just don't address any of that. Here's where shakes like that can come into play when you require emergency intervention. And this is what he's Okay, so and this is what he this is what he's dealing with or this is what he's trained to deal with. If I'm an obesity specialist, right, I'm a doctor that deals with obesity, I'm trained to deal with

people who come to me who are at risk of dying. Like this, this is, here's, you know, 450 pound Mrs. Johnson or Mr. Johnson and we need emergency intervention because their diabetes is at a control They can't breathe they can barely move like their quality of life is horrible and if we don't do something now The person's risk of dying is quite high over the next five years. So Here I tell you what we're gonna do. Let's do this emergency intervention because we need to do this right now But at the same time, let's deal with the root cause. But see, they don't do that.

It's about emergency intervention. You lost the weight, awesome job, everything you're healed. You can leave my office now. Now let's go with the next one. Because he keeps telling me like, you got to look at the data. Come look at my data. No shit, dude. Like that's so stupid.

It's obvious. I could take a room full of obese people and have them replace two of their three meals with shakes and if they comply, they're all gonna lose weight. We're gonna see improvements in blood lipid levels. We're gonna see improvements in lots of different things. But does anybody really believe

that that's solving the problem at all? And let's look at the long-term data. It just doesn't fucking work. If it did, that would be the cure. It would have worked by now. We've got the science, right? We've got the process. This has been a thing since the 80s.

For sure. It's the biggest loser mentality. That's what it is. It's the biggest loser mentality. Starve them over work them, lose to 60 to 100 and something pounds. High five, see you later. Like sorry.

We'll bring them down to like 800, 900 calories, you know, but it's managed by a physician, yeah. Cool. And I'll tell you what, here's 100% that you'll find accurate, almost every single time. And I asked him this question, he has yet to answer, but we'll see what I'll be shocked if he's not affiliated with some protein powder or meal replacement company.

I'll be shocked. Now, it could be possible. He could be like, oh no, I have no affiliation. But I doubt it. I'm pretty sure there's a company he's affiliated with that he profits off of promoting. The irony, the company that he works for reached out to us to work with us.

And that's why I thought it was really comical. That's the only reason why he was funny. He was attached to you and why you were following him was because he popped'm jumping your feed. You gotta be careful, like I've learned that now, right? Like I've learned not to like fire at someone if they pop in my feed because I'm following them for a reason, it means they're connected to me

somehow or some way. No, it's just so the reason why you have them in your feed is because when they first approached us and they wanted to become our official medical doctor on virtual, a virtual doctor. That's good. We know that now, right? Yeah.

Well, we weren't impressed in the first place. I remember going through his stuff and I was just like, no, I'm cool. It was going to be like, just one guy to handle like all of our, you know, influx of people. Yeah. That wasn't going to work. Well, and here's a thing to stain your lane, dude, man. I just, I think you giving, if you're an OBC specialist and speak to just the obese people, not the masses that are, that are tuning into your page, because, and

like Sal said, if it's an emergency, like somebody is 400 something pounds, doctor says, hey, you could die in six months if you don't start losing this way, but totally get it. That's why I get the gastric bypass for that reason. I understand. I mean, if it's life or death, like, hey, you're gonna die because you're so over worse. Then, yeah, that makes a lot of sense. And then we'll address the psychological stuff afterwards because we have an emergency right now. You're literally gonna need to kill yourself

the way you're eating and let's fix that. But you're just right now by teaching someone to have a shake instead of a meal. And that's how you're presenting it is on a picture with fucking French fries and a burger. And skip your second meal of French fries in a burger and have a shake instead, it's awful. It is, it's just like slim fast type of mentality

and you're not helping, you're not helping the real problem. I remember I had a, we had a client once that came to our gym years ago, this lady, who she needed emergency intervention gastric bypass and And so she got it. And she ended up losing about 120 pounds, which is a tremendous, tremendous amount of weight. She had to get surgery afterwards to remove all the excess skin and all that stuff. She lost it all fast, huh? She lost, of course, right? You remove the person's stomach. Yeah. And by the way, I mean, it's not an easy answer.

I want to be clear here. I think a lot of times people, especially in fitness think, oh, that's the easy way out. It's kind of not. It's a difficult process. The person has all kinds of issues afterwards. I have to take special nutrients and supplements because they've dramatically reduced their ability to absorb nutrients. So I feel for people in this situation, but I've seen this particular cycle happen time

and time again, and this woman illustrated it. I mean, she lost the weight, 120 pounds. She got the skin surgery removed all the skin. And over the course of the following eight years, she gained slowly, started gaining it back. I mean, she would come into work out in the morning and she'd show up about 20 minutes early before her session, she'd sit in her car

and she would eat jack in the box every single morning. She would eat jack in the box. Then when she would use the restroom, she would destroy the restroom. I mean, destroy it to a point where you'd have to open the front door to get air circulating. Now, her gut issues were 100% connected to her gastric bypass and the fact that she never fixed any of her nutrition. She just continued to eat incredibly horrible.

Now, she was severely limited in terms of how much she could eat at when sitting. So, the way she dealt with it is she ate shitty food all the time a little bit at a time and over the course of the years She stretched that small pouch of a stomach that was left out Considerably to the point where of the 120 pounds that she lost She had the last I saw her she had gained probably half of it back and was on her way to gaining it all back and You know, I mean I get it. It's a, I mean, obviously, there's incredible challenge that that person is having. I completely understand that. But

I think we're not giving these people the right tools and the right answers. And we're not being honest with them and helping them in the right way because it's just not, we're not dealing with it. In fact, I believe she became, started having problems with alcohol afterwards as a result because she, she had lost became, uh, started having problems with alcohol afterwards as a result because she, she had lost her, her drug, which was food. And that's an extreme case, of course, but, uh, you know, when I, like I said, this morning was a perfect storm. I was a little bit of, I was in a bad mood already. I'm going through Instagram. I see this fucking stupid post about, you know, here's our protein shake and replace a meal and

make you lose weight. And then I look at the guy's name, and I'm like, doctor so and so, and I'm like, oh man, today's not your day, buddy. I'm gonna tell you how to say this. I'm gonna tell you how to say this. Well, and I think that's, and you didn't just totally come right after him. I think you, I don't remember

how you started the conversation, but maybe you did, not enough if you jabbed him right out the gates, or you just asked a question to see how, because typically you do it. Normally when you're trying to get after someone like that you still don't attack you normally just ask a question that's thought that's thought provoking to see how he responds. Let's see. Oh, okay. So here's my first I did kind of Jeff. Here's my very first comment. This is stupid. Just the you were in a bad mood bro.

Just trying to get your bag right there. You're obviously in a bad mood. I'm sure he called you. I said this is stupid, just the real food. Protein shakes about his process. This food can get horrible advice. His response, your dumb. And then it went off. And then it went off.

Hey man, sorry. Sorry, not so. Well, yeah, as I say, we tend to have a shorter fuse for people that put doctrine in front of their title. If you're gonna put that doctrine in front of your title, then you start advising people. Well, as advice is no different than the fitness, you know, guys and girls who are selling supplements,

there's no different. No, no. It's exactly so. I have more patients for them though. I have more patients for them because I feel like they just don't know, you know. I don't, I don't, I think that, you know, someone like him who's been through all the schooling,

reps himself like that, talks like that. And him who's been through all the schooling reps himself like that, talks like that. And you gotta know when you're in that position. It's the same thing like us, okay? For example, we now know that we are in this position. We've now have a ton of people that are connected to us that look to us for advice. So I'm very careful, and I think we all are very careful

to check each other on how we advise and we talk about things. An example that was when we went through the whole ketogenic process and we're raving about all the things that we enjoyed about it, but then also we're very careful to say, hey listen, we are not saying this is the diet for everybody. We're just sharing with you some of the experience. And so there's a responsibility that comes with this power. So when you get to the point where you've got, that you've got this doctor in front of your name or you've got a ton of people that are listening to you and looking to you for advice,

I feel that you have some responsibility to have some checks and balances. Well, I think people should, you need to understand that. It's integrity. Yes, education and experience do not mean you have integrity. They don't.

In fact, some of the worst integrity you will find in the world are come from the most educated, most powerful people in the world. Politicians are typically very, very educated, horrible integrity, lawyers, there's a lot of doctors, researchers. You know, how many scientific studies are just, you can't replicate them, you copy everything they do and it doesn't replicate. And it's obviously because there was an incredible bias or lack of integrity on the part of the researchers who were trying to, you know, squeeze out some kind of result or tweak the, you know, the numbers to look

a particular way so they could satisfy their sponsors or whatever, you know, whatever companies or whatever sponsoring the study. It's shitty, it sucks, but that's the world we live in. Well, I feel it's lazy. I feel that what he's promoting is one of the laziest ideas to lose weight. It's the equivalent to me of like somebody coming in and me just hammering them so they get like a crazy sweat

out of it and they get super sore and then they come back And then I just keep doing the same thing over and over and over again Because like by math, you know, we're burning X amount of calories, and that's all we're concerned about So they're not learning anything. Oh, it'd be awesome if the obesity epidemic was simply a math equation that we just need to figure out I mean, that would be awesome. It'd be so great if it was just an algebra equation that we had to put together and you had the answer and this is it was subtracting the calories. Oh my God, are you serious?

That's all we had to do. Like, why isn't everybody fixing? It's not that simple, you know, so. Not at all. Bring it on the fucking bird. Step right up all you bearded man and all you bearded ladies. This cross brought to you by Big Top Beer Company Bring on the fucking bird. the mountains, the desert, the sea and beyond, all while encouraging a lot of beer of nozzling the boo. Buy it for yourself or it's a gift

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Stereoids are extremely, I think they're extremely relevant. Prevalent, you have to say. Prevalent are relevant or two different things. Well, I think it's part of the protocol for most, depending on the sport, but most major sports, it's just part of the, it's as relevant as, it's not as relevant, but it's in this similar category of proper training and proper nutrition. They look at it the same way. So if you're a top athlete, especially if you want

to compete at a very high level, and you get to that level, and now you're competing with a bunch of genetically gifted individuals who all also have a high work at, because when you get to the pro level, you have genetic anomalies who all have a high work out because when you get to the pro level, you have genetic anomalies who all have a high work ethic, high level of work ethic and all have good training and good nutrition.

So when you have all those pieces, you add steroids into the mix and it's just part of the formula for many of them. I do want to share something though with my, you know, talk about having, being, or having integrity and sharing art, you know, like some of the things that shattered my paradigm was. My buddies and I, so we're all big sports fans. My two best friends that I grew up with, that's one of the things that we have most in common. We all played sports growing up together. We all follow professional sports.

I've had the opportunity to train professional athletes to be around them a lot later on in my fitness career. Now, when I was younger, I used to always debate to my buddies. My buddies, or they have different professions, one of them's a principal, the other one's a physical therapist, and I had more interaction with these professionals athletes, and I used to say to them all the time that every, but they're all on steroids. I'm like, when you see them and you see the level that they perform at, they're all on steroids and that's really the major thing that separates the professional athlete and everybody else.

Now where my paranoia was shattered and it was more recent when this happened because I have been around more professional athletes in the last five years than I have my previous 10. And on top of that, I remember watching that TED Talk that was really powerful for me. And I had never seen those stats before on how sports have evolved from the science of the shoes, the turf, the pools, the way they're designed that they swim in, the caps and like what a difference. And there's all the sand eggs. They call us. They what they call the democratization of sports

where athletes became very specialized where basketball players got real tall. And if you look at football as a great example, football is probably the best example of any sport you can get where you can clearly see specialization in positions where alignment looks totally different than a cornerback. You're completely different. So it's like they're born for that. So these things, all this started happening, right? At the same time, I started coming,

I came across that TED talk and then I started putting more and more together. And then I actually got some of my closer friends, like Eric Frampton and Brendan Abendagio, like these guys are all natural, you know, we're in the league for 13 plus years, people like Navarro Bowman, a lot, some of these guys are actually all natural athletes.

And I know that because our friends of mine I've had chances to talk to them, like, you know, and share about it, like I was genuinely curious, like, you know, did you get, and they're like, no, some of of these dudes and that's where the genetic piece real I realize like what they're just a majority the one percent you know yeah that make it even to that level it's like ridiculous so I've now changed my whole theory on professional athletes and steroids and that is most of them actually are fucking genetic anomalies and that's what really separates them at the professional level and they were on that course as young're competing with somebody, like, they've always killed it, right?

So growing up, like in all the sports, everybody was, they pretty much dominated everybody. Now, all of a sudden, they're in a arena where everybody's just about equal. So every little incremental performance gain is so valuable to them. So the temptation for it's even greater. You know where I see the benefit of anabolic steroids for professional athletes in recovery. Yeah, and helping them helping them, especially as the age. I actually think they use, I think they use more anabolic for that are geared towards recovery that I actually do. Before I used to think that everyone's hopped up on testosterone and growth hormone

and that's, they just grow to be these huge units because of all the shit they're taking. And now knowing what I know, now I go, I don't think that at all. I think they're using here. They train specifically just to last. That's a promote longevity in their career. It's not about, you know, gaining like this extra mass, you know, to dominate. Well, people don't realize like these sports are real extreme, uh, in terms of the damage they can cause to the body, even a, even a sport like basketball, which you don't think it's like football, right? But these guys, the, the way that they're playing and running it, uh, on a consistent level at that level, uh level that they're playing at that professional level.

And the size of these guys, I mean, here's the thing you wanna consider, we're talking about genetic anomalies. Like when you watch basketball, you watch a basketball game, right? You're looking at a bunch of dudes who are six, eight, and up, right? And a lot of them were seven feet in that play. Massive humans, now think about your everyday life.

How often do you see a seven foot? How many times in your life have you truly seen some like that seven feet tall and excluding actually going to a basketball game? I can remember one or two times in my life. Dude, and that's how rare it was I remember. Okay, the point guard, most point guard, you know, you're Michael, six six, right?

The smallest guy, I played, I played point as a freshman as I got later in the high school I sprouted up a little bit and then they moved me to power forward. I was six foot. Okay, the point guard position It's normally about a six four to six six in the NBA How many six six humans do you even know right like I can count on one hand How many six six humans I fucking know and to think that there's a whole league of them, it just shows you like that. A lot of that is genetic.

And that's not steroids didn't grow that. That's not seven, but. And then you see like, like you guys ever, you know, I know you have both of you guys at, but you meet a pro football player. I mean, these guys, some of these guys are, you know, 300 plus pounds faster and more agile. Pure muscle than anyone you know. Like that, it just doesn't make any,

it's like it's no joke, it's like, it's like taking a human and giving them all the steroids in the world and then putting them in a cage with a gorilla, like an actual gorilla. You can have the most, you can put me on all the growth hormone testosterone in the world and a gorilla will shred me with one hand. Well, I think, because that's just their genes.

I think Justin shared the story, you know, when he worked for me years ago, we did this. I shut the gym down, the basketball court, and we played a five on five against the 49ers, you know, and there was, oh, so I opened it. Oh, yeah, you know, and Manny lost in it. Yeah, Manny lost in and I said, I'm a wild guy.

I said, I said, I said, I said, I think was weighing about 320 or 340 pounds at that time. I had to gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie.

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it was, I'll never forget this. And I was like, I'm on juice at this time. I'm stairrooted out, I'm doing skull crushers. And I've got like 40 pound or 45 pound dumbbells and I'm doing isolation, you know, skull crushers with a, and I'm like pumping them out. He lays down right next to me. He grabs the 95s and like pumps them out

for like 20 reps doing the same movement. Easily, dude. Yeah, just like. Huh, huh, huh, huh, huh. And I saw him do like 500 pound bench press, just wrapping it out like, you know, 10, 15 times, I was like, what? Yeah, and he's a Simone guy, right?

So you, you see this and I used to think that it was all steroids. And I don't believe that anymore at all. No, I just think it's part of a lot of their protocol, but is it making them a pro-athlete? I think it's more for the guys that are on the fringe, right? The guy that's like, just, you know, you're like barely making a Rudy kind of guy, you know?

It's just won't fucking let it go. Yeah. You're not like gifted like all these other guys, you know, and you just have to like, no, I can do this like I got skill and you know, there's a couple of those guys that they break through and they just, it's all heart, you know, but they need something else. So trip off of this, right? Think of the average person, physically, and then think of these just freaks of nature who are these elite athletes,

and think of the difference physically, right? You got average Joe Schmogye over here, and then you've got like, you know, pro, you know, track and field, you know, whatever, or football player, whatever, right? The difference between them two, the two is like two different species, right? Now, do you guys think that happens intellectually?

Do you think that there's people who also make up that small course? How crazy is that? Imagine walking around, first of all, imagine walking around being that genetic anomaly physically. You just like, you can walk around like you could kill every human if you wanted to with just a, you know, swipe, right? Now imagine if you're just one of those super intelligent people, how frustrating life must be to walk around

You're all a bunch of you Think about that you hear about some of the most brilliant people didn't finish school And but because they felt like it was so slow and boring Paul Paul check is like that. Yeah, yeah Paul check has read The guy constantly is learning and reading and we'll recite things to you and talk to you about things that'll just blow your absolute mind. And I don't think he finished high school. I think I can't remember his, he told his story on our show.

We got to ask him when he comes in. Yeah, we will ask him. And if he did, I remember him saying like he was just like whatever of a student, you know, he didn't care. I feel like a lot of the really, really, really minds are like that where it's school seem so structured and small. And they, there's they think so much bigger and beyond that, you know, it'd be weird to live in that body. Yeah. Quick interruption by our sponsors. You guys, lots of people been asking us how

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God, when you guys gonna have to go for I gotta think about this. I can't 20 think of a book I'm trying to think okay, so I'll give you some of the For sure ones that were big books for me that it was not even a big book So one of the shortest best reads I've ever read I think I've said this on the show at least two or three times before over the last couple of years one-minute manager If you're in leadership and and so that's why talking to my 21 yourself I was 20 years old

When I was put into a leadership role So I was already managing people that were all older than me at 20. So at 21, I think it was until about 25 or 26 when I read this book. It was a game changer for me. One minute manager changed completely my leading style. Another great read for that age was 360 leader by John C Maxwell. That was in the idea that is like being in a company where you are a leader or in management yourself and you have people above you and below you

and the people above you you don't see as maybe the most intelligent or great leaders and how do you work around that. So I thought that was those two right away come to mind as big ones. And then God, what's another one that I would have told my that was major for me later on. Maybe Jack Welch is winning. Oh, yeah. You know, being a lot of my forward and outspoken comes from that like being candid. Oh, you know what? Actually, I take that back. It'll even better book was first break all the rules This was a great book for me because I felt like when I was working for a company They are giving me all these rules and regulations and structure and you know I always felt like I just I've always been the type of person to challenge authority and think outside the box and

You know sometimes you can get in a company and they can crush a spirit like that because they can make you feel like you have to conform to their way in order to be successful. And I remember at that age, I was really struggling with that. I was struggling with my gut and what my gut told me inside with what my bosses and people were telling me on the outside. So first break all the rules, 360 liter and one minute matter. We have that in common, that whole hating to conform. In fact, I think both you and I were both somewhat

of black sheep at 24 hour fitness, 100%. I was known as being that everybody was afraid to promote because I might do some crazy. My first business name where we love to hate Adam Stim from so it was that was said a lot to me. So I stuck with it. I literally told our divisional president to go fuck himself and I called him a derogatory term because he was overweight which is weird to me that you man it, you're president of a fitness organization and your obese and you're a dickhead.

So I thought about reaching out to Don. Thank for calling his name. That's great. Let's beat that out. I just thought that might be who it was. He's a nice guy now. Ben Randall, who was my boss, and I thought they would make for great interviews to actually

one. So I thought I would sit out and let you guys interview him or maybe you sat out and we got to interview him and ask about you. I think they would be a unique interview. That's about me. You know, I got, he called me one. I've got, I got on the phone. See, you, if you were a manager of a club, you rarely ever talk to the divisional president unless you were doing something really crazy, either good or bad, like then you'd get a phone call or whatever. And I got a couple phone calls. One time I got a phone call because we got a ticket from the Sunnyvale Fire Department because I had got, I had

my sales guys do balloon arches on all of the street lamps, all the way up and down, uh, Fremont Boulevard in Sunnyvale, Saratoga Road, which, so what we would do is we tie them kind of loose and let them float up so they're, they're way up in the, we blew up like four tanks of helium to do this and uh, the balloons were like blowing into the street, you know, it was causing traffic and shit, and fire department comes, and tells me to take them down. And I said, I'm not going to, I can't. I don't know how to get up there.

So there was a big ticket, and I got a call from him. And he was so angry. And I said, yeah, well, how much is a ticket? I said, subtract it from my total today, because I just crushed all the other clubs. I was a total cocky ticket when I'd get on the phone with some of these guys. So here's a good business book that I think would have been great

if I had read this one, I was 21. It's by Jim Collins called Good to Great. And one thing that stuck out to me from that book was he talked about using Windows and Mirrors. Was the term he used. Windows and mirrors. So he talked about how good companies perform and how great companies perform. And the difference is Windows and mirrors.

And what great companies do, or what great leaders do, is when something goes wrong, they look in the mirror. When leaders who aren't as good, what they do is they look out the window and look and try and blame other people. So a great leader looks in the mirror. Now when things are going right, a great leader looks out the window at his team. What's my team doing? Why are we doing so great? We're a less good leader would look out, would look in the mirror at themselves and, and, you know, take all the credit. So I thought that was fascinating. And I had remembered working for some incredible leaders.

And that's how they were. Like when things went wrong, it was like, okay, what can I do as a leader to do better? When things were great, they gave us all the credit. And from a leadership point of view, it was very, very motivating to work for people like that. A couple other books that really instrumental for me in terms of my thought process.

They're not fitness, this is not a fitness book. It's really, it's a book written by an economist, Milton Friedman, I don't hide the fact that I'm a big fan of Milton Friedman. And I learned quite a bit from actually YouTube watching some of his videos. He had the series that he recorded. And I believe it was a 1980 that he recorded, and it was, what was the name of the series?

It was called Free to Choose. And it was a brilliant series because Milton Friedman, very, very smart man, he puts things, the way he talks about things, he explains things in ways that are very easy to understand he's like the carl sagan of the economy world that carl sagan as a physicist was very smart he wasn't the most brilliant physicist in the world it wasn't breakthrough anything but carl sagan explain it he he was able to communicate uh... to the average person and make quite an impact a milton freedman did that very well

in some of his talks and stuff that he did throughout the 70s and early 80s. And he wrote a book called Free to Choose and another book called Capitalism of Freedom. And it really helped me understand how economics really is the, that's really the, the driver of peace worldwide is through economics. There's lots of philosophies of how we can become more peaceful as a society, but economics

from a standpoint of what is actually going to work, what's realistic, is the most powerful. And I learned quite a bit from reading that. I also read a book by Ion Rand. The Fountainhead was an Atlas shrug. Now I'm not a huge Ion Rand fan, herself, but the books themselves are really fascinating. And it helped me understand how sometimes as a society we place a lot of blame on certain people who are actually doing things

that were benefiting greatly from. And you know, certain things, a lot of these people aren't perfect, of course. But a lot of the times we blame the producers of great things, the people who create and produce and risk. And because they're the producers and the creators, we also look at them and blame them many times for a lot of great things. When in reality, we don't look at ourselves.

And I remember having a conversation a lot, one time with somebody who was talking about how they were blaming retail companies for a lot of problems in society. And they were saying, hey, hey look man, look at all these liquor stores that they put in these bad neighborhoods, they're just perpetuating this bad situation and I remember after reading some of these books thinking, well all we have to do is stop buying their products. We talk about the supplement industry all the time and how shitty they are and how they advertise and the stuff they promote, but at the end of the day, they wouldn't exist if we didn't buy their products and the

powers on our hands and, you know, reading about economics and reading some of these books helped me understand really how powerful I was as a consumer. And it's an empowering feeling. It was really good to understand that and know that the most impactful thing I can do in my everyday choices is decide where I put my money. That's right. Vote with your dollar. And that's really, and it's sometimes it's hard to do, right?

Because nobody wants to take responsibility for the shit that they see. Like they want to blame the cigarette company, but they don't want to blame themselves for buying the cigarettes. They want to blame McDonald's, but they don't want to blame themselves for giving me Donald's money. It's's, but they don't want to blame themselves for giving McDonald's money. It's empowering, but with that empowerment comes responsibility.

And it was a paradigm shattering moment for me to realize that. Yeah. I think for me, I'm thinking about like some books that impacted me, especially after college, because for the most part, I was just reading textbooks for every different subject. When he goes to town. Yeah, when he the poo, and then the doctor's shoes, those are my good shoes. Hey, Dr. Seuss is one of the greatest philosophers of all time, right? It's actually, yeah, he's legit.

Fuck, I still read that to my kids, and it's like, I love that stuff. Anyways, like the emith, and the emith revisited by Michael Gerber was really impactful for me as an entrepreneur because you don't learn that kind of stuff in school. And for me to be able to assess how to create a business and how to not just work inside your business and be a technician, but to work outside of your business. Think about how to pull myself out and really assess how everything is interacting and working and how it can improve things from the exterior, not just being so day-to-day involved. Today, I'm doing this.

This is how I'm going to get clients. My whole focus was just like, I just need to get clients and my whole focus was just like I just need to get clients and train them and service them and it really helped me to kind of pull outside of that a little bit more and and think more on the growth of the actual business and and how I could sort of replace myself within that. So also to the lean startup is another one just really, really helped me to kind of assess where to manage better, like how to put, not just by all the bells and whistles right away. You know, like really think about what you can operate with currently and squeeze that for as long as you can, because if anybody knows anything about business, the

longer you're in the business, if you, you know, what, what kills businesses is cash every single time. And if you don't manage that properly and you just like want to have everything already from the go or you want to get this huge loan, you're putting yourself in a hole that you're going to have to dig yourself out of. And so anyway, there's a lot of strategies in there that made a lot of sense and got me thinking a little bit more how to be efficient and you know, like structuring everything and how to spend my money appropriately.

And the rest of them are pretty much, well, as far as training goes, like super training is a great book for me with Mel Siff. And that got me really introduced more into the, which we ignored a lot because of the Soviet Union, like how they, I mean, they dominated, like all these strength sports, and they did it with science,

and they really, like, they did all these really interesting studies that we didn't adopt till later on here. And so they, they go after we had the shit kicked out of us. We just got our ass handed to us. Well, they invested, people didn't realize that this is a Soviet Union as a nation invested lots, cause it was a source of national pride. And, you know, the Olympics was used,

and it still is today, but especially back then, when you had the Cold War, right? You had communism versus capitalism. And the Soviet Union really viewed the Olympics as a way to display their superior, you know, ways of leading. Ways of living, right? Their government and their philosophy of communism.

And they invested a shit ton of money in their strength athletes. And a lot of the science of their training is fascinating. It's brilliant. It's fascinating. And they actually tested all these different theories, like, you know, anywhere from, I mean, this is where I got back into isometric training and lots of these different, like, modalities that you're kind of like, wow, they're, you know, I knew it was effective, but why? They actually tested these things out. Anyway, it's not like an easy read or anything, but it's something I'm always referencing

constantly because there's so much as a wealth of information in there to extract, especially if you're a trainer. The rest of them are pretty much like tripod and all the like excess like Star Wars books just because I can't help it, man. I love sci-fi and I love to think about. Yeah, but you wouldn't have to tell your 21 year old something in the universe and all that. No, I wouldn't have to tell you that.

Yeah, exactly. I'm starting to get into that. So yeah, so mainly I guess those other books I mentioned. All right, this question is from Kittoy. German volume training, packs on masks, they say, right or wrong. So, GVT German volume training, so this was a training technique used by

the Eastern Germans, the communist Eastern Germans, for putting on muscle mass and size on their weightlifters. And we learned about this, of course, after the Berlin, after the wall fell. And by the way, communism lost. Just in case you got some people who are like, communism was more effective because their weightlifters were better. No, they lost and their coaches came over here and now were the strongest. So there.

Boom. But yeah, what they, what German volume training was was they would take an exercise, a movement, like squats, and you would pick a rep range, let's say, ten reps, and you would keep the weight the same and you would do ten sets. Okay, it's basically that's all it is. So you do ten sets of an exercise. You have a particular rest period in between each set. And the goal is to hit the same number of reps each time.

So you get to be very careful with the weight you choose. Now some interesting things happen with German volume training. And I'll tell you why it actually does work in some ways. When you adopt this type of trainer, when you start to utilize this particular technique, what you'll find, let's say you do squats for 10 sets of 10 reps, is that the squats will get more difficult and more difficult and more difficult until you hit like set number four or five and then all of a sudden

you get stronger. It's really weird. All of a sudden you feel stronger and then you get fatigued again towards the end. And it's always trips people out when they do this. It doesn't happen everybody but most of you who are, you but most of you who are pretty fit, you'll notice this when you do this. And of course, you don't wanna pick a weight that's too heavy. You're not gonna go 10 reps to failure each time because there's no way you'll be able to do this.

You wanna pick a weight that's, you can do pretty well with a moderate amount of intensity. But you'll find after about five sets, you feel stronger and more solid in your lifts. What you're noticing is central nervous system adaptation, right then and there. Right in the middle of these sets, your central nervous system starts to adapt

and starts to put out more strength. Now, the reason why this is an effective training tool, and it's a short-term one, it's not one that's always effective, is for that reason right there. It really trains your central nervous system in a specific way because you're just doing squats or you're just doing deadlifts or you're just doing bench press. You're practicing it and you're getting really good at recruitment patterns and firing within that particular workout.

What's the frequency protocol with it? Is it once a week, twice a week? So the Germans actually did it differently, the bodybuilders, bodybuilders now will do this and they'll do their body parts split with it. So if today's chest, then I'm gonna do, 10 sets of bench press and that's my workout and then I'll do it again.

So I've actually followed this protocol before, so I'm curious to like exactly how the frequency works. Well, they would have pretty frequent, because there were weight lifters, and weight lifters lifted very frequently. So they would do do this and they probably do this two or three days two or three days a week uh with a particular exercise Um some people have done this every single day. Of course you got to be careful with the intensity and the weight that you use But if you do this right

Uh, and if it's different enough you'll see gains definitely from it. Well, it's a lot of volume I mean that's and that's hence the name right exactly So it's a lot of volume. I mean, that's hints the name, right? Yeah, exactly. So I think a lot of people will see, and I think volume is one of the biggest ways that you can show. It's like, one of the ways as a trainer, I use this as like a magic trick.

You know what I'm saying? And I say that because clients think it's like this magical thing that you do, but it's so. I think asam! But it's actually really simple. If I take some, it's the same approach that I do when I take a client that, and I'm assessing their nutrition, and I tell them to just eat how you normally eat, show me what you're doing, and then from there I'm adjusted.

So if I really want to impress somebody and show them like instant change in their physique or gains, I'll have them do the same thing with resistance. As I'll, you know, write your work, work how you've always worked out, show me what your week looks like, and then all I have to do, and I want them to track their sets, their reps, and their weight. And then once they present that to me, I'll sit down, put it all in a calculator, and I'll mathematically break down the volume per muscle. So I'll look at the legs, and I'll say, okay, they've done a total of 25,000 pounds of volume in a week.

And I know that if I take them to 30,000 pounds of volume in a week, the next week, they're gonna see a difference. They're gonna see a difference in strength, they'll see a difference. So volume is the biggest game changer that will show people this, the growth and muscle size and in strength. So if you're somebody who trains a basic body parts split or you normally do three to

five sets of exercises and all of a sudden, somebody hits you with 10 sets of squats, like your volume is going to increase so much that yeah, and when your body adapts to that volume, you're going to see some major growth in gains. I think- But there's a difference, too, between just doing 10 sets of legs, and you're doing, let's say, three different exercises, and then doing 10 sets of the same exercise. There's this very interesting, like, you get the CNS-abbbit adaptation, that's quite fast. I've done this before. That's really weird.

That's the said principle, right? It's a specific adaptation, right? Exactly. So, you know, that's what's happening with that. And so, 10 sets of, I mean, that's why, you know, when we break down different types of training modalities like, you know, GVT, I didn't even know that this is the protocol to it.

It's really the manipulation of volume and frequency or like the two biggest things that people will see. And I think learning as a person who's working out at the gym is understanding that, is understanding that, you know, it wasn't this magical program that made my body change. It's that, whoa, look at this. I totally changed my volume. Or like, well, you know, and that's, I'll tell you, part of the magic behind maps

and why we know it just blows everybody's mind away is because we know that most people don't really utilize the frequency concept. Most people are getting this information from bodybuilders and are told, you know, you hammer one body part per week, maybe twice a week you hit it, then all of a sudden, maps comes along and we teach you guys that, listen,

stop training to failure, back off of that, increase your frequency, and we know, damn, well, that's naturally going to not only promote more muscle growth because of the frequency and the muscle building signal that you're sending, but we also know you're probably gonna naturally increase volume because when you go to hit squats or a major compound lift, three times a week, you didn't fry yourself

from 10 to 15 sets of it the day two days before, we know that you're gonna be able to increase your weight and your volume. So, you know, it's even maps, it's not, we don't say it's magical, we just understand the general population and how they train, and we're giving people the tools that actually really will change your body and your physique. And that's the real magical.

Well, if you're doing that many reps and sets, you know, one specific thing, your body gets really good at that. You know, it's just like practice and your body is going to respond at a high level when that's the focus. And you're not overpowering it with all this load and you're frying yourself with it. You're, it's just like practice. You're just like continually repetitiously going through this. It's, here's some drawbacks.

So it's, it's actually quite effective in the short term, this type of philosophy. You will get stronger. You will build muscle. You'll adapt quickly. You'll adapt quickly. And overuse injuries are very common with us because you're doing the same thing over and over again. You'll notice you might start getting problems in your joints.

So if you do utilize German volume training, do so for short periods of time. You know, I would do it no longer than three, four weeks at the most. And then back out of it. Otherwise, you will find yourself causing some, yourself some problems. Next question is from Fit OG Fry. You just got your own Batcave. What do you put in it? Batcave. Ninininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininininin I run away. I'm like I'm not putting a fucking gym in my back here. You're fucking super I already have I already have that our gym is built the way I want it man

Like we have the toy like I couldn't be happier with Batman is like a billionaire You can put like all this like cool electric electronics That's my my bro latest gear. I've got a hunter. I got a hundred a hundred inch fucking HD TV I'm getting one of those suits that like like make you invisible You want shit that doesn't exist basically. Totally. Yeah, I don't know. I want my bad caved.

I'm like Justin. I'm into tech and new toys. And I love I'm a movie buff guy. So I would actually build a pretty fucking sick, like, you know, underground movie theater experience. Because I enjoy watching movie so much that I would want my back cave to have that maybe a couple of my arcade games inside there. Maybe make sure it's about a 15 tall 50 foot tall ceiling. So I could put a little half court basketball court in there.

I'm doing that, but you know those like indoor like skydiving things, you know, like, yeah. Oh yeah, that's going to get one of those. That's cool. Yeah, it's like floating around. That's really cool. Rock climbing walls would be cool. Yeah, exactly. I would have, of course, that have the sickest gym of all time,

but then I'd have this amazing spot in there as well with Jacuzzi and Steam. I like that. I like that. And freezing cold dip. I'd have the latest stuff. I would want, you know what kind of steam room I'd want? I want a steam room with a TV in it.

That doesn't get fogged up. Oh, that'd be dope. You know how sick that would be? I would be dope. You're just chilling there and just like, I like what you're going now. So I would like stuff, I would like a place. To me, that would be this ultimate relax.

Like the things that I love to do to calm me down, which watching movies is there, steam, I love the hot cold dip concept, that's a brilliant idea, badass TV, which I could watch from my steam room, I think would be awesome. You know, some sort of like, you know, massage type chair or table. Let me ask you, I want a butler.

Do you really? Oh, we can, we can, like a hologram. I mean, it is a Batman cave, we got it, we should have it. This is the name of the- Okay, well, with the-ram. I mean, it is a Batman cave. We got it. We should have it. What's his name? We're the Jeaves. Okay, that's a good, I wouldn't have. I wouldn't have, I would have a specialist come in,

test me for everything, food intolerances, hormones, a whole deal, and then prepare my meals every day based on my new measurements every single day. So I'd eat my food. It scans you. Today your diet's gonna be comprised of largely saturated fats because we noticed the blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, or today we're gonna give you some more starches

because this went down and that went up. You just attracted HIV. I'd be, I'd be, I'd be, I'd be optimized all the time. Yeah, I mean, yeah. So what I'm gonna say is, would you guys rather have a super ridiculous, expensive inside of your house or a small, you know, nice little pleasant home with a lot of land that you could do shit with.

Which one do you would you rather have? Oh, dude. That's a tough one. And I, you know, having all the land on the outside and the sunshine and the fresh air and all that sounds really cool. Like I'd really love to have land. Yeah. But I gotta be honest, like I've told Katrina this

a million times, like when we build our custom home, I will have a master bedroom that is literally like a s-valt. Like air won't be only like filtered cool air will get in because my allergies and I just wanna be able to breathe and I wanna have this like complete be able to breathe and I want to have this like complete dust free room. So I want your total. I do want like the bubble boy type of a room. So as much as I appreciate outside, it looks better for me looking

from a window than it actually is being out there because and I of course is close to home for me right now because the last two weeks of allergies has been fucking insane. You know that one house that's, that's, I don't know if it's Lake Tahoe, but like, there used to be like, one of the gangsters owned it, where they had like, this secret, um, bottom half of the house, where they could like, escape, uh, with a boat, and they just get on the lake and like, take off like, I want like, secret compartments, you know what I mean?

Like that and then like I could go on a lake or then I just zip line the fuck out of there. You know. What do you get arguing with the feds come after me? Get in arguing with your wife. Yeah. I'm outta here. I'm outta here.

Zip line. Yeah. Go hang out my Ewok. No, I'd love to have like a creek that I could like put my feet in. I'd love to have like, you know, grassy hills that I could like pull sleds up and, you know, I'd love to have like, you know, grassy hills that I could like, pulse sleds up. And, you know, I'd love to be able to hike

on my own property and just meditate. And I'd love to have like a tree area with design for meditation. I don't know. I'd like to, I'm not too, I'm not too excited about like a crazy big internal part of the house. I want a nice comfortable house, but I'd rather have something like where I go outside and there's like a big Buddhist statue with

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