Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 555: Mind Pump Road Trip

Episode Date: July 20, 2017

In this episode the Mind Pump Crew heads off across the Golden Gate Bridge on a road trip. During the drive they discuss a variety of random topics but the conversation then goes deep. Get our newest ...program, MAPS Prime Pro, which shows you how to self assess and correct muscle recruitment patterns that cause pain and impede performance and gains. Get it at www.mindpumpmedia.com! Get MAPS Prime, MAPS Anywhere, MAPS Anabolic, MAPS Performance, MAPS Aesthetic, the Butt Builder Blueprint, the Sexy Athlete Mod AND KB4A (The MAPS Super Bundle) packaged together at a substantial DISCOUNT at www.mindpumpmedia.com. Make EVERY workout better with MAPS Prime, the only pre-workout you need… it is now available at mindpumpmedia.com Have Sal, Adam & Justin personally train you via video instruction on our YouTube channel, Mind Pump TV. Be sure to Subscribe for updates. Get your Kimera Koffee at www.kimerakoffee.com, code "mindpump" for 10% off! Got a beard? Condition your beard with Big Top Beard Company’s natural oils and organic essential oil blends to make it not only feel great but smell amazing! Get Big Top Beard Company products at www.bigtopbeardcompany.com, code "mindpump" for 33% off. Add to the incredible brain enhancing effect of Kimera Koffee with www.brain.fm/mindpump 10 Free sessions! Music for the brain for incredible focus, sleep and naps! Please subscribe, rate and review this show! Each week our favorite reviewers are announced on the show and sent Mind Pump T-shirts!

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Starting point is 00:00:00 If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. Mite, op, mite, op with your hosts. Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. This weekend I went back to see my mom for her engagement, right? She just got engaged. It's official now, right? Yeah! Are you gonna be the best man or what? I don't think so. Why? Well, he didn't ask me to be his best man.
Starting point is 00:00:26 Oh my God. Yeah. It's fine. Is he gonna be like a wedding wedding? You know what? I don't know. Yeah, they're gonna do a wedding wedding. It's in next year, July time, I think is what she said. Somewhere around there. Well, this be her second, well, technically third, right?
Starting point is 00:00:42 So my real dad, she was married, my real dad, who died when I was seven. Right. Then she remarried to my stepfather, Larry. That they were married for like 13 years, and then divorced, and then, and so now, Lonnie. So he's cool. He's good people.
Starting point is 00:00:57 I like him. I really help a kids, right? Huh? He has a couple kids. Yeah, he does. They're all our age. They're like in their late 30s and stuff. So I mean, they're all them.
Starting point is 00:01:07 They're all grown and they're grown and old and off doing their thing. He has a house like right on the delta. So right on the water. All week, I couldn't talk to anybody. My reception was so fucking terrible. Oh, were you on the delta? Yeah, literally on the water.
Starting point is 00:01:22 Like this house is on the water. Dude, the delta is an interesting place, by the way. I don't know how long. You got, you were, we went there a lot. Yeah, we're literally on the water like this house is on the water. Do the Delta's an interesting place by the way I don't know how you got you you were you were we went there a lot yeah a lot of time yeah water skiing there feet on the Delta is almost like like there's there's some there's great parts and then there's some like interesting parts I was on a houseboat over there and what's that island in the middle of the Delta? Well there's several there's what's that island in the middle of the Delta? Well, there's several. There's a pack of bar in the middle of the Delta.
Starting point is 00:01:47 Yeah, well, there's ski beach. I went there. Yeah, ski beach. There's Bethel Island. That's where he's at. He's on Bethel Island. There's several islands over there. No, and I think they closed it
Starting point is 00:01:58 because someone got stabbed or something on there. This one island, it looks like, you know what it looks like you know it looks like Mad Max Yeah, I mean like post-apocalyptic. Yeah, like you could just like people, you know You just imagine like people wearing leather and just crazy shit going on I saw some of the craziest shit I've ever seen my life on the Delta really yes on the Delta There were there was this and some people have these incredible Like y'all like looking boats on the Delta, there was this, and some people have these incredible, like, yacht, like, looking boats on the Delta. And there was this one, and I'm not making the set, this is true now, it was parked, and it was, I don't know, it was like noon, and everybody's getting drunk on the
Starting point is 00:02:37 whole Delta. So it's like this big party. No, oh, dude. And it's a drunk fest. There was this, like, Oh dude and a drunk fest there was this like Couple in their forties on the top of their boat and they had like a shower on the top of their boat and the the wife or girlfriend or whatever was Topless and he starts hosing her down and then they start Basically having sex whoa in front of everybody and everybody's just watching and cheering. Yeah, dude, I've never seen anything like this. It's so weird.
Starting point is 00:03:10 I was like, this is weird. Was that over by Ski Beach? I think so. Yeah, Ski Beach gets like that where everybody ties their boats together and when just gets hammered. It's crazy. On the holidays, it's nuts that if you go there for like a fourth of July, you go there for Memorial,
Starting point is 00:03:24 you go there for like one of the holiday weekends out there. Dude, I got flashed. What were you there for? Dude, that's like a holiday. I was in like, have a suit. No. Oh my God, did that place used to be like just insane with all that stuff?
Starting point is 00:03:36 It was like the spring break mecca for like Arizona and like, you know, all these like big colleges with the whole go there at once. Several years I've had plans to go there, and then last minute we just kind of backed out, because it's a trip to take the boat with them. Yeah, it's a long, I think it's like an eight hour trip or so.
Starting point is 00:03:55 Everybody's getting naked, new crazy stuff. Dude, I've never seen like that, and then I, and then I got flashed like several times, which does never, and the funny thing is, I'm with all these dudes, these like doctors, right? All these doctors and surgeons that are my clients. And they're all super great, cool guys,
Starting point is 00:04:12 like super chill, really smart dudes. And I'm getting flashed, like left and right. And I'll remember like, oh, what a look sell's getting like, they thought it was like a thing. And I'm like, I swear to guys, I never have anything in my life. You know what I mean? But they're like, yeah, right. You just happen to mean but they're like yeah right you just happens all the time like
Starting point is 00:04:27 just happens all the time. You're sure you're some titties. Yeah. They thought it was I'm like I listen. Thank you. This has never happened to me before ever. And at one point we parked the boat and we were tied to two boats so we couldn't like escape.
Starting point is 00:04:41 You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Which made me a little uncomfortable because shit started getting crazy. And people started boarding our boat. You know what I mean? Yeah, like you. Like they boarding, and they're like, these are like, they're parting hearts
Starting point is 00:04:53 and these kids that were boarding our boat. Now it's getting a little uncomfortable. I'm like, let's hurry up and skid atle. So you did use the words skid atle. I did use the words skid atle. How long ago was that? God, it's maybe four or five years ago. Long not that long ago. No, it was. It's been a long time since I've done
Starting point is 00:05:10 crazy party and like that. It was an interesting experience. Let's just put it, just say it like that. Um, yeah. Anyway, you know, it's crazy. It's crazy with parties like that that I never had heard of until I went there. It was the Cal Poly version of Marty Grom. Yeah, and I've been to that. It's the third largest one. So all over the United States,
Starting point is 00:05:35 everybody tries to replicate the, I love that Dodge Cuda. Oh yeah, our audience is a no, we're driving right now, maybe, huh? Oh yeah. Yeah, we're, this is our first podcast. We've got Rogue in the in the car, recording in the car because we're in Rautco,
Starting point is 00:05:51 C. Dark Ruscio. We're gonna go see Dr. Ruscio and because we saw Salito made the the commitment to release five podcasts a week. Anyway, you were saying? So the Marty Grau, so all over the United States, everybody tries to replicate the big New Orleans Marty Grau there, everybody knows about, right? Yeah. So Cal Polys is the third largest in the United States, and we were down there,
Starting point is 00:06:17 and this is, I had a girlfriend that went to Cal Poly at the time. Me too. And we used to go, we used to go, say same girl. That probably was. So we were sharing that bitch. So we went down there and, man, this place was crazy. So they block off the main downtown strip or whatever. And all the stores down there close up, of course. And they board up all the windows. And I remember when I first saw them board up,
Starting point is 00:06:44 I saw them getting ready the day before and I'm like, why are they boarding the windows? That's crazy. And then I realized, you have to go to windows. Yeah, they do. You know, it's about to get through. Yeah, right. Either hurricanes coming to town.
Starting point is 00:06:54 Like it's like it's a parade, right? So you're like, they're the parade. Like a zombie apocalypse. Like what have you ever seen like a parade? Like we just had a parade. Yeah. Come through in front of our store, right? In front of all.
Starting point is 00:07:03 Yeah, we had to board the windows up, right? Like, what the fuck kind of parade is this? It caused you to board your windows. Drunken zombies. So I remember thinking that it was kind of overkill, like really, like you need to board your windows up. So then we get out there that night and it was fucking madness.
Starting point is 00:07:19 It was so crazy. And there was like 12 of us, there was a ton of us, right? A bunch of us buddies were all these sorority girls. And girls had done it before so it was they were like coaching us I'm like okay listen nobody splits up make sure you're always linked with another person they're like oh my job yeah no it was like that dude and we get out there oh yeah nervous and we would we had to we had a link our arms like this right where you grab each other's forearms and we had a big long chain of us and you had to walk sideways through the crowd because everybody was so tight shoulder to shoulder,
Starting point is 00:07:50 you couldn't walk straight forward. You had to turn your body sideways and then we'd pull each other through the crowd. And it was a trip because, I knew no exaggeration, we would pull, pull, pull, pull and we'd go like 15 yards and then the crowd would squeeze you and then you would get picked up and move back like 10 yards. Then you would pull 15 yards and picked up, move back like high. Yeah, that just sounds like exactly.
Starting point is 00:08:16 Oh, it was crazy. And so one of the girls gets knocked over and she was two links away from me and insulin and it was right by like this light post. And my buddy and I just like wrap around the light post, hold on and we create like the shield around here so she can get up off the ground. Otherwise people fall and people just trample over each other. Like literally just like a herd of cattle, just trample over other human steps.
Starting point is 00:08:41 I don't know, it's like that there. Oh, dude. Oh my God, I've never been in a fight Oh, my girlfriend just she was like I don't think cuz I went down for the weekend to visit and then I was leaving and she was like, oh cool I'm gonna go to Marty grott and all this stuff and like Marty grott Yeah, yeah, they had a shut it down eventually. Yeah, but it got so out of control Then I went there and I don't know what what goes there now, they do anything at all, but I know
Starting point is 00:09:06 somebody got killed there one year, but every corner, there's like a ambulance and everything all set up there, and you can't see shit, dude, you don't even get to enjoy that parade, you're looking up the whole time, and you see a bunch of girls on dude's shoulders that are topless and getting beat,
Starting point is 00:09:23 throwing at them and shit, but you can't see hardly anything. It's just complete mayhem. It makes you wonder like why anybody would seek that out. Right. You know what I'm saying? It doesn't sound logically, it sounds terrible. I, you know, I try to think that.
Starting point is 00:09:38 It doesn't sound like a good time at all, but yet because we're old. Well, young, I was like, yeah, everything. Well, no, I don't, cool. I don't understand. I don't even think I mean It's weird like hey, you know, what if you said that someone hey you want to go yeah like Smash yourself into everybody else in the world Yeah, it sounds so fun like why do we do that? What trips me out is? You'll get like regular people and
Starting point is 00:10:04 Depending on the situation or the context of the situation regular people will do the craziest shit ever and it makes me wonder like I had a trainer that worked for me a long time ago who also was a male stripper and the stories he would tell me from these vatch threat parties that he would attend to strip for, I couldn't even believe I have to shit that I was here. Oh yeah, women get aggressive.
Starting point is 00:10:34 And you know, it's funny, I think, because when you look at, when you, when they talk about female sexuality, a lot of it is based on feeling safe. Once the feeling safe and the threat is gone, I guess that it kind of comes out a little bit. And when they're in a group and there's one guy and there's a bunch of them, it changes. All of a sudden they hit the predators at that point.
Starting point is 00:10:59 Yeah, it's like they go nuts. I don't know, man. Crazy shit. I had a couple of trainers that were too. Moom lighting. That's strippers. Yeah, lighting is strippers. You thought about it, no more.
Starting point is 00:11:11 It's actually, you just can't dance. That's the reason why you do it. Probably. I got offered to be one. Did I tell you guys about that? No. I had a client when I was 18 years old, OK. And by the way, you can look her up.
Starting point is 00:11:26 Her performing name. Oh, I think I remember you showed. I talked about this in an old episode. Yeah, yeah. Uh-huh. I know you showed us a picture of her. Her performing name was Ashley Winters. You can google this.
Starting point is 00:11:38 And look this up. She, I won't say her real name, but her performing name was Ashley Winters. And she was a horn star from the... I want to say the early 90s, late 80s. So by the time I trained her, she was retired. And here I am, I'm an 18 year old kid. So I'm already, I mean, you remember how you were in 18, right? And this woman comes in for an orientation with the biggest boobs I've ever seen in my entire life. It was comical, how big they were.
Starting point is 00:12:11 That was obviously her thing important. I mean, that was what made her, I guess, popular. And so I was already like, whoa, what's going on here? Like, that's some sort of an achievement or something. I will. This is what you're popular for. Well, I mean, it was her thing, right? I do. I guess, and though, you know, if you're important,
Starting point is 00:12:32 I'm known for something. Yeah, exactly. How do you separate yourself from the crowd? She beat guys up a little things. Yeah, so anyway, so what's her gimmick? So she was a blonde lady and she was probably in her mid to late 30s, but when I was training her, which made her old for a porn star.
Starting point is 00:12:47 Right. So anyway, I had the orientation with her. She hires me for like 30 sessions. And while I train her, she would say the dirtiest shit I'd ever heard up until that point in my entire life to me, ever. Like the most terrible dirty shit ever I know she was just fucking with me some some kid you know what I mean yeah and she would moan when she would do exercises like so loud and so
Starting point is 00:13:14 ridiculous that other members would look at one of those and guys would fist bump me did you uh did you ever sleep with her no what. What a waste. So, so, let me tell the story, right? Let me tell you the story. What a waste. So, so, you know, see those big pillows. Yeah, guys would fist bump me like they give me a fist bump. Like, when she wasn't looking like, yeah, we're all good job.
Starting point is 00:13:35 And I'm like, but I'm 18 years old and I'm extremely intimidated. Like, made me super nervous because again, I'm 18, she's 30 something or old, X porn star. Do you remember at what point in your life that you became less intimidated by women like that? Well, I mean, do you remember, do you remember it was there a transition
Starting point is 00:13:54 or a coming out party for yourself? You know, there's still situations that I could imagine now that would intimidate me. You know what I'm saying? Like, you know, when you're a guy, you think and fantasize about things, but then when you're presented with the situation think and fantasize about things, but then when you're presented with the situation, a lot of times you're like, oh shit, what's about,
Starting point is 00:14:11 you know, this is just about to go down, what am I going to do? You know, I mean, I've been in some situations where I left. And then I, you know, a year later, I was like, what was I thinking? Anyway, she would make sure it moan, she'd say dirty shit to me, she snacked me on the ass a couple times. She gave me a naked picture of herself with her signature on it, which I kept in my car, which was hard to explain to my fiancee. So she, as a tuft, she owned a stripper company.
Starting point is 00:14:42 It was called California Guys in California. Damn, she was a boss, too, huh? She owned a stripper company and she asked me if I'd want to be a stripper, which of course I said, no, she's scared to fuck out of me as it is. Let alone, I'm gonna go dance for other women, hell no, right? So for my birthday, she tells me, oh, tomorrow's your birthday, what time are you off?
Starting point is 00:15:03 I'm like, oh, I'm off out of my mind, what time? I said, five o'clock, whatever. I said, well? I'm like, oh, I'm off out of my room. What time is it, five o'clock? Whatever. I'm gonna come by, I'm gonna bring you a surprise. This fucking lady shows up in a limo outside the gym. Yeah. Okay. Comes inside, brings me outside, opens the door to a limo, and she has a couple of her stripper girls in there.
Starting point is 00:15:21 Oh my god. And her. And her. And her. This story better get good. Wow. No, I'm going to disappoint you. No! I hate the good thing to do that.
Starting point is 00:15:29 Come on, dude. Dude. She asked her bad from storytelling, too. Listen, listen here. You lost your fucking virginity when you were all there. You were a fucking virginity. That's what I was. So shut up, dude.
Starting point is 00:15:41 You would have been, you were a shit. I got a bunch of stories. It's got a- I got homework. Yeah, right. You would have fucking, you would have prayed. You probably would have been you would have been you would have been you would have been you would have been you would have prayed you probably would have served She opens the door dude and there's two my chastity belt. There's two like almost nude strippers in the car Happy birthday and they hugged me and they trample me on the car and I'm like oh and I like literally put my hand on the outside of the car Like stop myself and go in she's like come on. We're gonna take you out for your birthday and I pulled me in the car and I'm like, oh, and I literally pulled my hand on the outside of the car like, stop, myself, I'm going. She's like, come on, we're going to take you out for your birthday.
Starting point is 00:16:07 And I'm like, you know, you ever get like cold sweat? You know what I'm saying? I had cold sweat, like my mouth got dry. And I was just like, I can't, I got to go. And I think the excuse I gave was like, my mom's having a birthday dinner for me. Yeah, it's my mom. It's great excuse.
Starting point is 00:16:28 She's like, Sal, she's like, you can hang out with us for a little bit. We'll drop you back off. You don't have to hang out that long. And I'm like, no, no, no, no, no. I can't, I can't cut, so I left. And, you know, of course, I use that material later on. But yeah, no, that was some scary shit, dude. That was some intimidation. So anyway, that was my one
Starting point is 00:16:49 I'm not a girlfriend think about this you just all girlfriends Organize that like all we bro this think about it this way This is trying to think of an intimidating situation. This was a legit this was a legit predator like she was you know I don't know how a whole to 37. She sees an 18 year old boy. She's thinking like, I'm gonna take advantage of this kid and do all these different things to her. I don't fuck, man.
Starting point is 00:17:12 I told you when I was 18. Yeah, I told you when I was 18. And I was like, I was in college and I was living upstairs to this like fraternity house. So one of my friends was in this fraternity and so I got like really cheap room and board to live at the fraternity house. And so they were trying so hard to get me to join
Starting point is 00:17:36 and this one guy like for my 18th birthday, they all decided to take me to the pink poodle, you know? And there's like yeah what a dirt what if like a dirt hole right exactly dude and so I'm I'm there and I'm like okay cool whatever they're gonna buy me a lap dancer or whatever and I'm like okay that last one that stripper that was up you know that last one like she's hot like like, give me a lap dance for her. And so this guy's, yeah, I got you.
Starting point is 00:18:10 He ends up like getting me on stage. Oh my God. And so I'm like, ah, fuck, I gotta get on stage and the DJs all being a total douche. Hey, welcome, we're gonna put this on live webcam and all this stuff and hyping it all up. The girl that comes on was the previous one before that one. She was the fat one. That was like huge in like this huge ass. And she like, man handled the fuck out of me and was just like
Starting point is 00:18:43 tugging on me. She put her hand all the way down my crotch. She was like, y handled the fuck out of me and was just like, tugging on me, she put her hand all the way down on my crotch, she was like, yanking on me, she put chocolates in her butt, she was trying to get me in. I was just like, oh no, it was like, I was like, if my penis could have crawled all the way into my body, you know, like it was trying to hide.
Starting point is 00:19:01 I'm all the treats. Yeah, put the chocolate in your ass. I was supposed to eat that, like, and then then then then, why don't we pick up what that is? Like give me the visual, you know, like, how old were you right there? I was 18.
Starting point is 00:19:12 Oh, yeah, why don't you pick one? I was so scared. That doesn't look like poop. You know what I'm saying? Right, that would be better. That was an interesting move. And then I had to go collect all the fucking, like money with her at the end.
Starting point is 00:19:23 I was like, this is so humiliating. Oh, it's end. I was like, so humiliating. Oh, it's horrible. I was a little bit older when I was saying advantage of. Yeah, how are you taking advantage of? I was 21 because I, remember, I lost my virginity at 20, right? So at 21, we were at 20, we were at 20, I was still 20 about to turn 21. I remember it was a big deal because at that time
Starting point is 00:19:45 and the district manager will remain nameless and you know who he is. We all know who he is. We worked with him. He used to bounce at T's cabaret. Oh, I know exactly what he was. And he got me in there, right? So that was, we're all gonna go out.
Starting point is 00:20:01 We're going out for somebody else's birthday. So I was with all the district managers and I was just promoted to assistant fitness manager at the time and I'm hanging out with all the DMs. It's was a big deal for me to be able to end. I was underage and heading over heading to this teddy bar. And we get there and we start drinking and I'm kind of like keeping my cool
Starting point is 00:20:25 because I'm with all the upper management, right? I'm a young kid, I'm at least smart enough not to be, like lose my shit, right? In front of all these people. And there's an operations manager and she's 30 and she's feeding me shots. Oh my God, I know what this is. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:43 God damn it. And it seems like, you know what I'm thinking? Giving me shots. Oh my god. I know what this is. Yeah. And it seems like, you know, given me shots one after another. And about the sixth one, I realized, like, dude, she's like trying to get me wasted. Yeah. But, yeah. And I am, I'm pretty faded by this point. And we, we all party all night long till the, uh, to a shut the place down. And she's actually the one who's driving us, right?
Starting point is 00:21:06 So she really didn't have much to drink. All of us, guys, were drinking. And she drives this big like, it was a suburban or big Tahoe or what I thought. So we're loaded up in this. And she's driving us all home. And I'm pretty wasted. I'm just kind of sitting in the car,
Starting point is 00:21:24 keeping my mouth shut, waiting for my stop to get off. And we're dropping this guy off, then we drop that girl off, and we drop this guy off. The next thing I realized, I'm the last one to get dropped off. And she don't even ask me where I live or anything. She just takes me straight home to her house. And I'm kind of like, OK.
Starting point is 00:21:43 All right. And she gets, she walks walks around she opens up the passenger door where I'm sitting a stuff gets out holds me grassy by and I'll never forget walking up to her house and her like pulling me by my hand you know like holding holding holding her hand and she's like walking me up to her house and the up to her stairs we're going oh yeah exactly it was happening it was the assumption close on the all day long. Never once did we ask each other,
Starting point is 00:22:07 do you like me? Do you like smack your ass in the heart? It was like, oh, get in there. Hard core clothes, get them drunk, take them to the house, grab them by the hand, pull them up stairs. And then, kind of, that was, it was only, I think, it was only the third girl
Starting point is 00:22:21 that I had ever been with at that time. And so she was, she was 30. She was 30. I walked her rocked your world. Now did you feel? Well, I actually put it down pretty hard. That was really. Yeah, no, it was a good three hours. Even though you're on drunk, yeah. Well, that's why. Oh yeah. Right, I was so wasted, I couldn't come. Right. So I ended up, I ended up laying it down for like three hours. And she thought I lied to her. I was like, no, you're only the second or third girl
Starting point is 00:22:46 I've ever been with and she's like, you're fooling me. She thought I was fool shit. And she was forever in love after that. I mean, she was always hitting me up for a long time. In fact, that's the same, oh wait, operations man, what, her district operation manager would always hit me up by the blue and she became like this regular hook up for me for
Starting point is 00:23:05 years and years working for the company until finally I was like in relationship but said I can't do this anymore. I remember times where she would call me up. So first time a woman ever called me a pussy for not fucking her like I remember like she called me up and I'm tired of getting up for work tomorrow. So that you're such a pussy. Oh man, you come over here and you'd fuck me handle this I remember the first time a woman ever called me a pussy You know what's you know what's the best part of that whole story is That you know the amount of people that are gonna know who you're talking about I bet you all you know our old friends
Starting point is 00:23:42 I know don't don't remain nameless for sure. They'll know exactly who you're talking about. That's it. So that's funny, man. But were you ever in a situation where you're like, wow, I'm intimidated? Well, that was intimidating. That first time was it as much as being called out. Like I remember thinking myself as a young 20-year-old,
Starting point is 00:24:02 who was just really starting to have sex that when she was calling me out to have sex with her and I thought like oh my god I'm turning this down like what's wrong with me I remember being like I feel a little intimidated to feel a little intimidated like she's calling me like I got to put it like that first time I put it down so well like I couldn't like come back the next time and not be able to perform like that. Yeah, we should have sucked the first time. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:28 Exactly. There was this pressure. Just lower the expectation. Right. You're ramping up. Yeah. You're ramping up. You know, it's funny, dude, is that we think that, you know, what's talked about a lot
Starting point is 00:24:39 is the pressures and stuff that women feel. What's sex? And not as much when it comes to men. There's a lot of pressure for men to think that they always have to be down to do that. You know what I mean? Like, even when I was intimidated with my story that I told you, I was embarrassed to tell anybody. Because you know how guys are, they bullshit, right?
Starting point is 00:24:59 Are your buddies like, well, you don't do it? I would have totally bad. But it's true because you, you didn't do it. I would've totally bad, but. Yeah. But it's true because you, you know, you feel like you almost have to. Well, that, and then you think of when you first are having sex, you've never had it before. So in your experience of it is coming from a magazine
Starting point is 00:25:18 or, you know, a movie or some bullshit, like it's not real life, right? To back then, National Geographic. So you know the cross-section of Jay-Z Peggy cat live. Oh yeah. Your perceptions have been distorted and you don't really, you can't really figure out exactly what this is supposed to look like and so I think you have these high expectations that it should be hour to two hour long sex and you make her just
Starting point is 00:25:45 stream and whatever and it's all this hoop law that you've got to you've got to come through with and when you're a young boy like you got the wind blows and you and you and you freaking come you know it doesn't take much when you're that when you're that age but I also attribute a lot of like or you're so nervous that you can't even like it's I mean, you know It's stress and anxiety are the two things that will kill's boners that Those are boner killers and If you're under all this pressure people know what you're about to do. Oh my god I'm gonna be with the squirrel and that it up. It can be it can be it can be an issue. There's this
Starting point is 00:26:23 This is a common actually. It's funny because I just went through a divorce, right? And you read about, you know, I'm the kind of person I'll read about. If I'm in cannery situation, I'll do a lot of reading about it, read other people's experience and try to educate myself on what to expect and whatever. And I was surprised that, because I wasn't not aware of this, a lot of men, after being married for a long time, they will have issues having sex with other women, even if they're attracted to women, whatever, because they went with someone else for so long, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:26:57 Or because the pressure of this new situation, which I didn't realize was a common thing. It's so common in fact, that there articles written on this and among other challenges. Oh, well, it makes total sense to me because there's been many times where I've been in a two-year plus relationship and then you're into another one and You get used to that person smell the way they kiss the way they be way they touch you They'll everything so and when you're with a different person that all changes Yeah, like for me heat of the heat. So talk about nervous, awkward, weird, uncomfortable, all those feelings come up in addition to what you're saying.
Starting point is 00:27:32 Like, so I can totally see that, you know, when you first, first end up trying to get back out there, how weird that's got to feel, you know. A big issue with this expectations. That wasn't like that way for you though. Did you feel that way? big issue with this expectations. That wasn't like that way for you though, did you feel that way? Um, you know, I had such a strong connection with Jessica that it was very primal, so it
Starting point is 00:27:56 was hard to be in my head because you're so there. You know what I'm saying? So that made a big difference, I guess, but really a big issue, I think, is people's expectations. Like, here's another example. Like, married couples with kids. And you won't, you obviously don't know what this is like. But when you're married and you have children, a lot of things change. When you don't have kids, sex is very spontaneous.
Starting point is 00:28:24 It's just you guys in the house, we're in the mood, we're in the kitchen, sex is very spontaneous. It's just you guys in the house, we're in the mood, you know, we're in the kitchen, let's do it. Or you know what I mean? It's just, let's have sex, we're in the mood. When you have kids and schedules and take the kid to school and kids over here and this is going on over there, whatever,
Starting point is 00:28:39 like therapists will tell you to schedule sex, which to a lot of people sounds fucking crazy Like you tell like a powerful you you know, listen to you You're gonna have to like you need to have scheduled times to have sex with your girl It will almost to you feel like it the ruins it and a lot of people have have problems with that but the reality is It's okay. It's okay to do that and it can actually make things better. Because the problem is people have expectations that it needs to be the spontaneous, I trouble with that for a while. That was exactly what you were talking about.
Starting point is 00:29:12 We had to go through a period of that because that's how it always was for me. It was like, if you're in the mood, let's go. I can tell you're in the mood too, but no, it has to be like, in a specific time frame, so there's no, you know, kids around like this and that, like day to day, like stuff that we have to accomplish.
Starting point is 00:29:34 It's like, now it's, in a point where it's like, okay, well, we have to at least, you know, make sure this happens, and then we, we've kind of loosely scheduled out, but it's not but it's not like something you put in the calendar. Yeah well so I had I used to train a sex therapist and she told me that one of the best things that like very like very couples with kids can do is it's a literally scheduling. She said you know set your days like Monday and Wednesday or whatever we're're gonna, that's our time to be
Starting point is 00:30:05 intimate. And she said, you don't, you don't have to have sex on those days, but you know that you have a flock of time that you're dedicating to be intimate with each other. And don't, there's no pressure to do anything at that time because that can make it horrible, right? But just know that that's the thing. And she said, you know, a lot of people have issues with that because they feel like it's not romantic or whatever she said, but the opposite can be true. You can think to yourself, like, hey honey, it's Monday, guess what's going to happen?
Starting point is 00:30:31 And during the day, you can text each other and kind of build up to it and know it's about to happen or whatever, or that there's at least time for that to happen. And it's funny, and like I said, I think expectations of what we think we're supposed to do or what it's supposed to be like is what kills it for a lot of people versus just like being okay with, you know, with how it is
Starting point is 00:30:54 or how it has to be, you know, I'm saying. Yeah, I don't, I think you'd be surprised how many people can relate to that that don't have kids. I think it's just busy and maybe it works. Yeah, I mean, Katrina and I are a perfect example of that. You have, you know, two 36-year-olds who have huge responsibilities for huge companies that demand a ton of our time and carry a ton of stress and we're always on, we're rarely ever off. And so really, it's really easy for both of us to get consumed by stuff outside of each other.
Starting point is 00:31:33 So, and I've shared this on the podcast before, how much the reading with each other, setting a goal of, okay, and that's how we do, instead of scheduling it like, the fun day of the time. Yeah, exactly. Well, I didn't even like like instead of saying Monday and Wednesdays or together time or scheduling time. I mean that we just say our goal is we knock a book out every month. Well in order to hit a book out every single month that requires you know a total of seven
Starting point is 00:31:57 to ten hours a month where we've dedicated for just her and I to sit and listen. So that's you know so we're indirectly scheduling that, right? By saying that we have to accomplish this together. And what ends up happening when we have those moments, as we end up listening to the book for 30, 45 minutes, maybe an hour at most, that we listen to the book. And it always sparks great conversation. And it makes us extremely present and that great conversation always
Starting point is 00:32:26 leads back to why we love each other, why we enjoy each other's company, why we're attracted to each other, which in turn normally ends up turning into sex. So you know that's to me and you're also growing together and so I can't stress that enough to people that have kids or don't have kids that are in a relationship that they've been in for years How much that's been such a huge Contributive to our success in our relationship as far as keeping it healthy and strong It's being able to make sure that we make time for stuff like that and naturally it turns into intimacy also So it doesn't start that way and we don't put the pressure on it.
Starting point is 00:33:06 Like, oh, we need to have sex too because we have sex in three days. But it's like three days. Yeah, which yeah, for Katrina, it's like forever. Right. So I was going to remind her that like easy girl. Three days in the end of the world. The right three days in the world. You know, but that's something that I think we've taught ourselves to do now
Starting point is 00:33:30 that in the future, if we had kids or if we continue to get busy, like we continue to do, and I'm sure that's not going to get less busy going forward with the way things are going for both her company and ours, you know, those things are important. And it's a, and before I didn't think I ever had to schedule that stuff or make an effort to do that, I always thought I would, oh, I wanted all the time if anything. Because I remember being a young 20 year old
Starting point is 00:33:55 and having girlfriends, you know, slapping at me, telling me, stop it, leave me alone, stop touching me. Like I wanna watch the movie relax, you know? Like, that's all you're thinking about when you're that age, when you're that age, all that's on your mind is sex, and that's all you're trying to do. And then at one point, and I know it doesn't happen overnight, but it's a slow progression and transition. If you go the other direction, you know, you become so consumed with everything else in your life, that, and of course the dip in testosterone and things like that also play into that. But I think even more than the dip in my testosterone is sex-trying, it's just that there becomes a ton of priorities in your life that you tend to prioritize differently, and a young 20-year-old, I feel like when you come out of puberty,
Starting point is 00:34:39 it's just primal instinct that you want to procreate. And that's all your body is thinking it wants to do, right? I think more than, even more than that is because a healthy male is able to procreate theoretically to the day he dies. So we're always able to procreate. Whereas women go through, obviously, man of pause and they can't have children anymore. But what I think, here's what I think. I think when you're young, sex is new, and so quality
Starting point is 00:35:08 is the most, excuse me, quantity is the most important thing, because all you can think about is just lots of it. I think as you get older, like everything else, like think about this. Everything else happens, it kind of follows this pattern as well when you get older, is you don't, you don't value quantity you value quality you know I'm saying like I would much rather trade less sex that's really really good connected fun explorative freaky whatever type of sex versus lots of it all the time when you're a kid you know you don't even think of that you just want it all the time. When you're a kid, you know, you don't even think of that.
Starting point is 00:35:46 You just want it all the time. Right, yeah. And that's true for almost anything. I can think of, you know, it's like food or like, you know, going out or, you know, when you're a kid, you just want to go out and get drunk all the time. Well, when you get older, you enjoy that too, but you'd want to have a quality time.
Starting point is 00:36:02 You don't want to just go get special time. You'd like to do that, but it's got to be like a great time, a good atmosphere. I think the same as me set of outsex too, so I mean, I don't necessarily need it or want it all the time, but when I do have it, I'd like to have good quality connected.
Starting point is 00:36:20 No, I think you're 100% right. You know what I trivado on now, and I didn't notice it until I hit 30 was How important it I have to how important it is for me to feel good about my own physique and my current state of health Really? Yes when I'm when I'm dieting when I'm eating clean when I look good when I feel good when I feel strong when I feel fit Like sex is better. I enjoy having sex better. I want it more when I feel good when I feel strong when I feel fit like sex is better I enjoy having sex better I want it more when I'm not I can feel that I can feel I don't I don't feel sexual I don't want it as much like I don't feel good so
Starting point is 00:36:58 it's crazy how much that has played a role too and her and I both always know that when we're both on our kick like we are right now like foot yeah when we're both fit training hard we have goals in mind we're making progress towards them we're working together towards them and I'm sure a lot of that all plays together too right it's not just that oh I'm leaner and I'm fitter so I want to have sex more I think it the fact that she is also both our bodies are slowly changing week over week and getting fitter and fitter. And I can feel it on her, I can see it on her and vice versa for her. I'm walking around naked all time because I feel comfortable and confident, you know,
Starting point is 00:37:34 all that plays into that. And it's funny that you walk around bottom with. Yes, I'm curious, right? That's right. That's right. When I feel really good though, I walk around completely naked. I always go confident from the bottom out. But sometimes I can't even, every time you say that, I just picture horrible, bro, with those washers. Oh my God, that's so hard. Why are you creating a visual? I got my mid-dress, man. You put on a movie.
Starting point is 00:38:04 There's already enough naked, that's slaughtered. Walk around my two kids, do nothing but walk around but naked. Do we really? Yeah, yeah. I love it. I love it. No, but really though, how's it?
Starting point is 00:38:13 Close on. Have you ever really paid attention to that with yourself, like when you're? I think everybody's a little bit different. When I'm feeling healthy. My wife's a lot like that. I think like you're talking about for sure. I can go whenever. Yeah, I'm ready.
Starting point is 00:38:27 Yeah, I mean, just as a care. Yeah. I think, I'll say, I mean, for me, if I feel healthy, yes. As far as how I look, I guess, I mean, if I, if I didn't, if I felt like I didn't look good, that that should definitely impact me. But what does it mean? It's been a while since you've been outing? When was the last time you felt out of shape?
Starting point is 00:38:50 I think it's more my health. Like when that happens, it's because something's going on with my health. Yeah, no, I don't know what to attribute it if it's... No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, you fell out of shame. I really out of shame. Yeah. When was the last time you looked at yourself objectively and said, oh, I don't look for a good right now. You know, it's difficult because it's hard for me to look at myself objectively. You know, I've dealt with those body image issues for so long that it's hard to look at myself and be objective about how I look.
Starting point is 00:39:22 And so I've gotten to the point where I don't. I kind of don't anymore. Not that I avoid it, but it's just not something that I do because once I start doing that, like for example, if I start training really hard for aesthetics and I start thinking like I got to work this part of my body or I want this more muscular, I want that leaner, then it starts to get away from me. So I don't... Do you really feel that's still true to now as much as you've evolved? Or you feel like you still struggle, that's you avoid that? I don't know, that's a good question. We're about to go to...
Starting point is 00:39:57 Not about to, we've got like a couple of months before we go to the... I guess I can announce it right, that we're going to be at the Olympia Convention. So there's definitely a part of me that wants to look aesthetic, to get lean and look at certain length, because it's a bodybuilding show. And I don't even know if we're going to go to an event by the pool or anything like that. I don't think we have anything like that plan, but still you're around a bunch of, you're in an environment like that, right? So, it's definitely on the back of my mind to look aesthetic and I can tell that it starts to drive my behavior in ways that I don't know if I necessarily like. So, I'll let you know, I don't know,
Starting point is 00:40:40 I'll let you know where that is. I know my current state or at least The state that I evolved to was I just didn't really Necessarily paid too much attention to that. I guess it'd be the right thing. Honestly for me, dude. Nothing is more of a Turn on for me than and I know you guys have been following me, but intellectual Stimulation by talking about deep shit. It needs to be horny. I mean, trip off that. I don't think that's weird at all. Why do you think I tell you that it's such a game changer to listen to a book with your girl? I mean, if you have an intelligent woman and you sit down and
Starting point is 00:41:20 you listen to a book with her, it's going to spark intelligent conversation and debate it's we have healthy discussions that we agree we disagree but it promotes but yeah absolutely I mean we're all cerebral guys I don't think that that's weird at all now I find that my girl's gonna be hot too okay she can't be really smart enough I just only. It doesn't work for me, because I still think that we are a static visual creature, right? So, you know, I think- You know, what's funny though about that is
Starting point is 00:41:54 when you're really, really, really into somebody, they can have things about them physically that you may otherwise, if you've saw it on someone else, you'd find unattractive, but because it's on that person that you're otherwise, if you saw it on someone else, you'd find that attractive, but because it's on that person that you're so connected to, it becomes a charming thing about them. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:42:14 Like you find it attractive in them, even though normally it might not be something. So it's almost hard, like when you're really into somebody, it's almost hard to be objective about their physical appearance, I guess. Kind kind of weird and I've always heard that oh if you love somebody it doesn't matter but there's some truth to that for sure which I think is cool because if you're with someone long enough man at some point you're gonna get old I don't care who you are dude you know yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:42:40 you're not gonna look at you know it's not like you're gonna objectively be 75 years old yeah yeah baby yeah no liver spots yeah it's but you know, you're not gonna look at you know, it's not like you're gonna objectively be 75 years old Yeah, yeah, baby. No liver spots. Yeah, it's but you know if you're really connected them You could probably find them very probably find them very very attractive. I remember as a kid I Had a client that was I had a couple that I trained who were married for like 50 years they were under 70s and They were hilarious and they talk about their sex life all the time and that was young I was really on a train and I was like 50 years, they were under 70s. And they were hilarious and they talk about their sex life
Starting point is 00:43:06 all the time. And that was young. I was really young when I trained them. I was like 19 years old. Remember when I'm 19 years old, I'm like, ah, you got to do it. Rinkle bird. Oh the fuck yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:17 They got that friction. But no, you know, not a molder and can understand that more makes sense, you know what I mean. But at the time I'm a particular way, you guys are lying. You guys can't still do that. There's no way. Yeah, not like so this weekend, my girlfriend went down to San Diego to the Czech Institute,
Starting point is 00:43:37 and she took the HLC force, the holistic life. Nice. Yeah. And I love it, dude. You said there was a bunch of people that were hitting around the wrong line, publicity. There was a couple people there, the instructors. Yeah, there was a couple of instructors and a couple of people there that knew about my pump, because you know, we had an interview with Paul Check himself a couple times.
Starting point is 00:44:00 Anyway, I love it when she goes and does this kind of shit because it's like we both get to do the certification because then she comes back and I just we just talk and she teaches me all the stuff that she learned and stuff but I really want to take this course now like like trip off this you know they open some of the like they would open the class they would do a meditation I know it's gonna turn some people off but kind of weird right they do a meditation. I don't know if it's gonna turn some people off, but kind of weird, right? They do a meditation. Then they go into all these different topics of health and fitness that normally you wouldn't think or connect it.
Starting point is 00:44:34 And so we had some great conversations over the past time while getting turned on over intellectuals' circulation. That definitely happened over the phone because she would leave the class and tell me all the stuff and I was like, damn. Yeah. And then you're in the bathroom. Normally, normally, normally, boys see this.
Starting point is 00:44:49 Normally, boys, friends are like, oh yeah. Yeah, normally, boys, friends like, what are you doing right now? Like, send me a picture. Yes, I told my girl, send me a picture. I need to read them a book. Oh, yeah. You just said, oh, God. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:00 I'm almost there. I'm almost there. I'm almost there. I'm almost there. Send me a picture of the gut health part of the book. I don't know. I'm not. I'm almost there. I'm almost there. It's been me a picture of the gut health part of the book. I don't know. I'm not talking about it. I'm just such a freak.
Starting point is 00:45:10 She did a good, she brought up a really, really good point. She actually wrote a post. Or I think she wrote a post on her Instagram about this. Made an excellent, excellent point where she talked about how, you know, they talked in the class about how your thoughts are such strong influencers on your health. And we have a lot of people in fitness who, you know, call them, you think you can or can't, you're probably right. You know, they'll think it's okay, right? Like, no, that's bullshit. It's not about your thoughts and blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 00:45:45 So she kind of threw that back at them and said, you know, the placebo effect is a legit study and observed thing in science. To the point where when you do a study, you have to control for the placebo. And there's also what's called a no-cebo effect. So there's a placebo, no-cebo effect, both of which prove that your thoughts and your mind
Starting point is 00:46:08 will 100% influence what happens to your body or what happens to your health. And so she used that as an example, and she's like, of course, your thoughts influence these things. And as much effort as we place on our nutrition in our fitness if we have something that can influence our health to the point where again scientific studies have to account for it why are we not spending more
Starting point is 00:46:36 time focusing on how we can train ourselves to have better thoughts. Oh that's my fucking brilliant. That's my pump, bro. That's what I mean. When you think about what we dive into on the show, it's really an evolution of our own personal training and helping clients. And it took years for me to realize that, okay, the X's and O's are important, okay? To evolve in health and fitness and to really get it, you gotta know the X's and the notes, you have to.
Starting point is 00:47:05 You gotta know you just like learn the game of football, you gotta understand the players who's supposed to be where, what they're responsible for doing. Then from there, it's all the mental game, man. It really is the psychological game that you have to learn and progress in is what really evolves you to this next level of health and fitness. And I think that's what, or at least I believe that's a lot of what we talk about
Starting point is 00:47:27 on the show. I mean, I feel like I would, I would, I'd tell you what, I'll, I'll say this 100%. It's the most important thing. There's nothing more important than that because if you can get that part straight, everything else, that's what steers you. I mean, that, that's where you end up making all the decisions regarding your nutrition or your You know like getting in and working out and making consistent better Patterns throughout the day and like it's all dictated by how you're feeling like how you're feeling what your motivation level like where you want to go
Starting point is 00:48:00 Throughout your day with you know with how you're going about it. So it's totally in your mind, it's your mindset. It's the most important thing. And think about all the people that we've worked with and the people on social media and the fitness, you know, just our industries a whole, how much of it is geared towards that? How much time do people spend on that part versus on spending time in the gym? Yeah. Working on their trips? Well, the only one I see is the motivational people that all they do is they bark at people
Starting point is 00:48:33 about like how they're not accomplishing things and they need to do more, do more, do more no days off. Well, see that's funny and that's wrong. Yeah, that's wrong because, first of all, motivation will only get you so far because motivation is not permanent. It can be, it's impossible. You're always gonna be a state of flux. Right.
Starting point is 00:48:52 So trying to be motivated all the time, it's short term. Short term, it can be very, very effective. Long term, it's not. Because at some point you rely on that and it's gone. Now what, what do you do? You stop and it's not. And you end up encountering this problem of
Starting point is 00:49:10 you know I'm not motivated that's why I'm not you know working out or we're relying on an external force to motivate you towards a really need to find a purpose. That's right and there's also the identification or how we identify with motivation and grinding and a hard work and who we are and you can even identify with being a meditator and being this, you know, I got the mindset, you know, like we like a what was, you know, bro check, called the spiritual righteousness, we're feeling like I'm more spiritual than you are and I've gotten rid of all my possessions because I am better than you and you know, it's like that part of it, that the mental game, the inner dialogue that we have this the second person that exists in our brain color ego like all that is by far the most important
Starting point is 00:49:50 thing and you know i'm i'm getting to the point now where i'm starting to realize that all the advice that i give uh... and all the things that i say to people in terms of here's what you do with your work out here's what you do the nutrition here's it and i'm not a matter of you don't have the right mind no mean, imagine if I would love to see a study like this, where they took groups of people and you know this group over here, they told them this is your workout, this is nutrition, and then this group over here, they said okay, uh, devote 30 minutes a day to meditation
Starting point is 00:50:19 and mindfulness and do these exercises for mindfulness. I bet you in the short term, the guys with the people with the workouts and nutrition will probably do better, but I bet you in the long term, with the other people are consistent, they'll probably do a lot better, and they'll start figuring those things out kind of either on their own,
Starting point is 00:50:34 or they'll find that information, apply in a way that sticks with them. It's really interesting like them to them. I don't know how much I feel that way too, because I feel like we've seen that, that's the hippie culture. Well, that's the problem, the... I don't know how much I feel that way, too, because I feel like we've seen that. That's the hippie culture. Well, that's the problem. The problem I think is identifying with it.
Starting point is 00:50:49 Well, right. But there is a culture of people that have attached themselves to that ideology of nothing, free spirit, free love, you meditate, peacefulness, and I don't know, there's a balance I feel like. I feel like there's some sort of a balance that you have to find and have because I think with anything, there's always going to be the other side of the coin
Starting point is 00:51:19 or the drawback. It's hard to find the killers of the world with the peace, mindfulness. Right. Well, so there's few, but that's a really hard balance between the two. It's a really state-driven and motivated, meanwhile, checking yourself in, restoring. And if you're, you know, guy, I know, Sal, you appreciate the studies and the research stuff all day long. So when you do the research and the studies on our greatest millionaires are most brilliant minds that have changed
Starting point is 00:51:50 and shaped and formed this world, none of them were in balance, dude. They were all fucking out of balance. They're all fucking completely maniacs about their topic or their ideas or whatever it was. And that's what made them so special and unique was because they were so out of balance. So it's hard too. Well, it depends on how you define balance.
Starting point is 00:52:13 Balance may mean, I think when we think balance, we think of someone that does everything equally. I think balance means different from person to person. The other thing too is we're talking about, you know, when you talk about the shakers and movers of the world, when you look at them later on in life, they all kind of reach this point where they talk about these types of things. Steve Jobs is a great example. And the other thing too is, a lot of wisdom comes from people when they are faced with their own mortality. Have you ever read or talked to people who deal with people who are in situations where they know they're sick, they know they're going to die? Some of the stuff that comes out of the mouth and things that they say is extremely profound.
Starting point is 00:52:59 The things that they truly find important, it's really interesting stuff. I know we're getting real deep here, but I think the pursuit of that stuff is where you'll find some of those answers. I think the fitness and health journey isn't so much the journey of fitness and health, the destination of fitness and health. I think it's just the daily journey of just, I don't know, being a better person, I guess. Well, I like that. I mean, I like the idea, I like the idea of just every day, you know, Abraham Lincoln says,
Starting point is 00:53:32 I have no respect for a man that is no wiser today than he was yesterday. And so I like that idea of, you know, every day, I'm in pursuit of being a better version of myself. And ultimately, that will lead to health and wellness, right? Because if you, and really I think, I think you can weave in and out, like, and I talk about this a lot, like to people that I mentor and stuff is, you know, sometimes I'm heavily focused on business. And sometimes my, my
Starting point is 00:54:01 health and fitness takes a little bit of the back seat to my current journey because I'm heavily focused on growing the business and I'm heavily focused on getting better in that arena. And when I make great progress in there and I start to realize that it's starting to fall out of balance where, oh wow, look at my health and fitness is slipping more than I would like or I feel comfortable with or I don't. Now I'm starting to see adverse effects. I don't feel good, I'm not sleeping well.
Starting point is 00:54:27 Things are going on. Oh, that's because of this. So now I need to spend a little more time here. And when I do that, this time around, when I put energy there, I need to be better than what I was before. And so always having this kind of ebb and flow in all these different arenas of your life.
Starting point is 00:54:41 And at the end of the day, you're only competing against yourself on progressing and getting better and I think ultimately that leads to a more successful life, a more healthy life, but I think what happens to a lot of people is they become very tunnel-visioned on one aspect and either you're like which, an example of that in our field, you see some of these fitness professionals that are out there, or fitness idols that are on social media and stuff that everybody falls. And those guys are extremely successful in the fitness journey, but then everything else out of there in their life is completely whack.
Starting point is 00:55:20 And I think that's the part that a lot of people don't see, because you don't get a chance to, you know, on social media, we always put our best foot forward. And our life is so grand and everything is perfect. And everything goes so well. And I'm super ripped. And I have a super ripped girlfriend. But in reality, what people don't realize is, you know, that kid can't balance his checkbook.
Starting point is 00:55:39 He doesn't know fucking anything about business. He's got no idea where his life is going to be in five years. Like, there's so many other things that life is going to be in five years. There's so many other things that are going on behind the scenes that people don't get to see because we put this facade out there. Yeah, I think, I mean, there's so many different factors when you look at external versus like internal, like motivational factors. And I think that the intrinsically motivated person is going to be a lot happier overall.
Starting point is 00:56:05 Like, even if you look at, like, if it's, I want, I personally want to go outside of my way to help somebody else out. Like, I'm thinking of that and I'm pursuing that. And that's like benefiting me and my state of health and my mental well-being. Or I want to be better every day. I want to do this and make my physique look better for myself, but I care about myself and my body and that's what is the reflection of that versus like,
Starting point is 00:56:40 everybody expects this of me and I have to do this or you know or like You're doing this for for a purpose that somebody else is sort of determining for you. It's it's being able to find that You know within yourself and so that's why I think the mindfulness piece to it is so important because you can't really find out What that looks like until you sit still and you listen to your own thoughts and what you know where you want to sort of navigate from there. Yeah, it's, for me, it's a lot of it's come full circle. I got, I was really, really, really into how I, you know, changed how my body looked and
Starting point is 00:57:21 it was kind of, it of driven by insecurities. Then I rejected that, and now I'm coming full circle. And I think this is the process of how you learn things, right? Now I see it and I see myself, and I realize, well, this is my body. I'm kind of inside. I float inside of this body of mine and training for aesthetics can be very fun just don't get attached to it right but it can be fun to change your body and do what you want with it and have fun with it just don't get attached to that as your identity because then at some point you're going to be in a whole world of hurt
Starting point is 00:58:02 because everything changes nothing stays the same. It's interesting. I think when you start to look at, like when you say things like that and you relate, I look at it like we're engineers, right? And it's like building your own building or building your own plane or your own because you have the level of intelligence to do that. And when you start to approach building a physique that way, I think it's totally different than building it because you feel insecure or inferior to others, right? Or even just identify like, I am this rip person. This is who I am. Yeah. I can't change. I have this ability now, and I didn't when I was younger,
Starting point is 00:58:44 but I have this ability now to objectively look at myself and say, oh look, you know, I feel like my shoulders are a little lacking, not because it makes me feel inferior to anybody else, but I feel like I can put some work in and sculpt and build those because I have the know-how, because I know how to apply. Well, you specifically are motivated to do that. Yes.
Starting point is 00:59:04 It's coming from you. Right. And it's not me comparing myself to anybody else, but myself, knowing what I'm capable of, knowing what I have built already. And I actually really dig that. And I find myself getting reinvigorated with that as I'm going through this process again of tracking
Starting point is 00:59:24 is really enjoying that I have the control of that. I have the ability to lean myself out and get super shredded. I have the ability to build shoulders. I have the ability to build bigger legs. I have the ability to do whatever it is I want to do and have fun with it. Yeah, and it's very, it doesn't end like this weekend I was gone, right? So I was on the Delta, celebrating my mom's, you know,
Starting point is 00:59:47 engagement and there's food and there's drinks and there's all this stuff. And, you know, I brought some of my foods with me because I do want, we're on a, we're somewhat on a calendar. We're in less than 10 weeks, we'll be in Olympia. And I do want to be in good shape for me to get there. But at the same time too, I want to enjoy my family, my company I won't be counting my calories, I won't be following my Fitbit, I'm not gonna be working out, I'm gonna enjoy things, you know So I don't let it take away from things like that like I want to be completely present with my family the ones
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