Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 557: Importance of Workout Exercise Order, the Benefits of Yoga, the Future of MAPS & MORE

Episode Date: July 22, 2017

Kimera-Quah! In this episode of Quah, sponsored by Kimera Koffee (kimerakoffee.com, code "mindpump" for 10% off), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about the importance of the order of exercises during a total body routine, the types of programs they are going to launch down the road, yoga for flexibility and mobility training and old man strength. Get our newest program, MAPS Prime Pro, which shows you how to self assess and correct muscle recruitment patterns that cause pain and impede performance and gains. Get it at www.mindpumpmedia.com! Get MAPS Prime, MAPS Anywhere, MAPS Anabolic, MAPS Performance, MAPS Aesthetic, the Butt Builder Blueprint, the Sexy Athlete Mod AND KB4A (The MAPS Super Bundle) packaged together at a substantial DISCOUNT at www.mindpumpmedia.com. Make EVERY workout better with our newest program, MAPS Prime, the only pre-workout you need… it is now available at mindpumpmedia.com Have Sal, Adam & Justin personally train you via video instruction on our YouTube channel, Mind Pump TV. Be sure to Subscribe for updates. Please subscribe, rate and review this show! Each week our favorite reviewers are announced on the show and sent Mind Pump T-shirts! Have questions for Mind Pump? Each Monday on Instagram (@mindpumpradio) look for the QUAH post and input your question there. (Sal, Adam & Justin will answer as many questions as they can)

If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. MIND, M the status of his- Don't throw a monkey in my mansion. You'll know what you do that, kids. That's something we just invented in this episode. You'll see what we're talking about. No, everybody says that. Adam talks about the status of his training and his diet, because that's important. We're talking about my mobility training or lack thereof.

And dumbbells and barbells versus machines. And then we get into the questions. We talk about the importance of order exercises during your workout. In other words, when you're doing your workout, does the order of your exercise matter or can you just mix them up? Just wing it, however you want.

Then we talk about Prime Pro and how that may not have completed the maps series. We actually do little brainstorming on this podcast. You get to hear our process. Go inside our brain. Then we talk about our opinion on yoga and its usability with foam fighters. Yes, it's a thing.

Apparently it's signing Adam up. And don't lie Justin, you're the one that's going to be foam fighting. I know. And then we talk about old man's strength. Is there science behind it or is it just a myth? Lastly, this month we introduced Maps Prime Pro, our correctional program to help you correct muscle imbalances in your body, self-assess yourself, from your wrist, your neck, your

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This is something you can use on all your clients. We took both programs, put them together, discounted them greatly. You can find them at mindpumpmedia.com. All right, you ready? Dan and it. Three, two, go. Dan and it. Wait, I do kind of want to run through you, uh, this little quiz here, okay. It's a quiz for sale. It's a, it's a sale quiz. You're going to have to name the university's fight song. Okay, let's see. I don't like sports. Ben and I didn't go to college, so I don't know. Ben and and and and and and and.

Oh, it's Penn State. That was good. He said, I think you should get an extra point though for saying it, confidence. Yeah, it was good. Just to come up with an answer, Stanford. I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about. Oh, some kind of Native American master.

Yeah, come on, dude. You gotta do better than that. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. I feel like that's cultural appropriation, which I probably don't like that anymore. They probably don't even sing anymore. Really? You know, Florida State, okay, you're terrible at this game.

Let's move on. You know what I fucking hate about that, by the way? Is that everybody gets a cultural appropriation, blah, blah, blah, blah. Nobody says shit about a tie-ins. Every fucking commercial for a tie-in food has got some stereo typical. It's a pizza, it's a family time.

We eat the pasta, blah. What the fuck? Come on, man. Mario Brothers, most racist cartoon of all time. Oh, man. That's so good. Come on, man. Shit on Mario Brothers.

I'm not, I think it's awesome. I just pull, I just bring it. I just like saying I can't identify with leprechauns. You know what I mean? Like I'm okay with them I'm okay with lucky charms. All right Adam you need to name this TV show because I know you suck at this game It's that's why that's why you make me play it Is it TV show fuck me if you can't name it by now? It's a game show Fuck me if you can't name it by now It's a good movie it's a good show to happy days whatever a party's fiend fucking Adam dude. I don't even know what that was Did you know what did you have a TV when you were a kid? No, that's why we didn't we were poor dude

That's right. I feel bad for my father not long with my father died We always get him into saucepot. I gotta You know TV always yeah, I lived on a lived in cave Not along with my father died. I always get him into sauce pot. I get him. He never TVed. Always. Yeah. He's I lived on the, I lived in the cave. That's the Partridge family, dude. You guys never watched the Partridge show? Well, I'm not that old.

I'm just a new to what it was. He's almost that old. I've never, that's true. We are, dude. We are the riser. The girl and the Partridge family, the, you know, the, the daughter or whatever. I had a big ass crush on her.

What was her name? Something day. Laura Day or some shit. I had an idea. She was the anti ass crush on her. Oh, was her name something day, Laura Day, or some shit? I had an idea, but she was, she was, he bought a Ducci, got jacked. We got crazy, we got crazy and lost this time. Lost this time. You know who, well, lost her mind? Who?

Carrot Top. Oh, yeah. Bro, I just saw a picture of him. And then I remember all the plastic surgery and steroids. Space. It's awesome. He looked totally a different, why? Why did you do all this?

You know, it's creature. You know, it makes me laugh though about that is I first of all I feel bad for him He's obviously got I need to man. I can't I think he's funny I think it gets shit on my everybody one of my one of my favorite Live shows I've seen a lot of fucking stand-up to one of the best really top three So I here's why I give performer I feel bad for him. It's on a hell of a show how like You ever you you, how many times have you seen people like this, especially celebrities where they're so unaware that they'll be interviewed

by somebody, because this happens at Caratops. Happened to Michael Jackson too when he was alive. I'm looking him up right now. And people would ask him like, why have you had so many plastic surgeries? And be like, I haven't had any. It's like, are you fucking crazy? Yeah.

Are you, it, obviously. Obviously you do have had a shit tongue. So what'd you guys do yesterday after we went home from work here? Worked out. You just lifted yesterday? Did you have a good workout at him? I didn't actually.

It wasn't bad, but it wasn't good. So I'm now, I've now created this new Clark maintenance for myself that's really high. And I had Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday, four days in a row of missing my maintenance level. So being in a deficit, and I was really excited to train that day because I had scheduled like it was going to be a heavy hard leg session, and I wanted a squat, and maybe possibly you had a PR.

And I knew right away when I got out of the bar that I didn't have the gas, and had the energy, and it sucked because I had the mindset because I felt really good, I was very recovered, but I'd be in a deficit for four or five days in a row like that, and totally hindered my strength. And so I shared this on my answer story, but it's kind of a cool topic is to,

and I think these are the things that we all kind of do that we don't really talk about very much. And I think that's where we always encourage modification and changing things is none of us follow the exact regimen that we have planned every single day day and a day out because if you're really good at what you do, you learn to adjust on the fly based off of the signals that you've learned that your body tells you, right? How did you adjust?

I moved to a more like functional mobility driven kind of day. And so I worked on range of motion. I did some coscheck, right? Am I saying that right? Coscheck. No, that's the UFC fighter. Coscheck? Josh Coscheck. Yeah.

You did some Josh Coscheck. Josh Coscheck. Cosack. Cosack? Cosack or Cosack? Cosack. Yeah. Spell it. K-C-O-S-ack? Yeah, spell it just a K. C. Oh

S a so Just K. Yeah, so I did everybody who cares whatever Google map squats. Yeah, make up a name for like we do in our So we so we so I did some Cossack squats. I did I did the earthquake bar or whatever you call that nice I forget the name of that. I just think of the wrestler from back in the day of the earthquake. Yeah, like the bamboo bar. Not the bamboo, but the other one that's the, where the weights are down by my hips and it's really unstable because of that,

it's, it's, it's, it's, it's the thicker the thick bar. What's it called? I can't believe it can't be the name of it. It's not a, a, a camber bar. No. It's like a, it's like a camber bar, but it's much more camber than that, right?

It's when I get under it, the weights are down here, right? So it's super, yeah, it's super unstable. I do want one. I mean, I use a, you know, when I do it a lot is when I know I need to incorporate more front squats and I'm just too lazy to do front squats, I'll be honest. I, front squats for me because of my shoulder mobility, my wrist mobility, just aren't comfortable or just, and I avoid them like the plague, I'll be honest. And, but yet I know how important they are for me to do them. And so sometimes what I'll do is,

like this is what I'll do is I'll do a variation of that, which it loads it more on the front, so it's definitely more quad dominant for the floor. Yeah, we should do that in of that, which it loads it more on the front, so it's definitely more quad dominant. We still have a knockout a lot. We just would come in and do those workouts. I love those workouts. I love those.

I love those. We have to get those bars in here. So, yeah. So anyways, I changed my routine. I had the intention of going in there, a heavy leg day, hard training session, and realized right into the workout that although I felt good as far as inflammation being down, mobility being good, mental clarity being all good, I didn't have the gas and I could tell I didn't have the gas,

I should have had the gas. That's kind of a theme for you. Running out of gas. No gas, for me. Yes, stupid. For those of you who don't know for a medium. He did that in the car with us sometimes. We had to walk. He's got a motor. I think that this is, I think this is where a lot of people though make mistakes because they because of the shit that we talk about all the time on here is the

Beastmo no days off and you you wouldn't what's the saying go you know finish the workout workout's not done until you finish the workout or some push. Oh, but did you die? Yeah, right. That means like everything. Right. So, you know, why? Like if I'm calorie deprived already and you can tell your body is not going to hit any thing, I'm going to hit any major strength PRs on a day like that. And you can tell when you start listening to your body. Yeah.

And why push beyond like that? I'm getting all the benefits of fat burning or leaning out because I'm in a caloric deficit. And you're still sending a signal. And you're still sending a solid muscle building signal. And so it's just learning how to weave in and out of that. I think that's a... See, I've made an agreement with myself.

I am not going to be squatting over 135 for a while because I attempted to do a pistol squat. And let's just say shredded something. It wasn't even, yeah, it wasn't even an attempt. I mean, oh no, it was bad. So I'm doing them with video. Of course not.

Oh man. This is horrible, ruined mind pump. I did it with, I was holding on to a TRX, I'm doing it now with a TRX to like balance. And I'm practicing like that. And it's just, and then Kossak squats for me. You might as well ask me to do a backflip. I like how adventurous you are. Yeah, yeah.

So I'm, my workout now is totally consistent. It's revolved around all these movements. Nice. You wanna know the irony though, the weirdness about all that? Here's what's weird. I feel like my legs are growing. Oh, for sure.

Yeah, the new stimulus. I mean, look at, I know that, but, I know. But that's, but it's weird because my intensity's not even high because as soon as my intensity goes out, my form goes as shit, because they're exercise. Well, this is why we're in a whole new movement. This is why we stress us all the time that,

when you talk about all the different, and I know it's an old principle, but the fit principle still stands true. The frequency intensity time type is that it's not just intensity is not the only signal that is going to tell your legs to grow, and and in fact there's many others And when most people tend to manipulate only intensity when you actually go outside of that It's amazing how much the body responds. Well, this is why I already have people only know of that as being

You know the the methods yeah harder or less hard right? That's like that's like I that's all they know how to do is I'm going balls out or pull back and, you know, I think actually learning, learning to manipulate other, other factors I think is huge. And when you take some, I, when I went to that whole mobility, like fuck, what was that? Six, eight months, maybe longer. And I was the same thing.

I had the same mentality. I was like, I'm not going to squat over 135. I think I said 225, a little bit stronger in you. So I was like, okay, I'm same mentality. I was like I'm not gonna squat over 135 I think I said 225 a little bit stronger than you so I was like okay. I'm gonna I won't go any heavier than two pound I said I wouldn't go over 225 and then I would continue to work on depth and mobility. And I definitely didn't see, I didn't like, you might be seeing gains. I wasn't seeing gains, but what I didn't see was I didn't regress, which was that's what I was surprised about. Now that I'm back on it, oh man,

I'm already, I was right back to my best squat already within a month of hitting a hearty. So what I'm doing at the end of my workout, it's how I'm finishing all my workouts now, is I'll sit in a squat, which for me is hard to do, and I'll time myself, and I'm up to one minute and 45 seconds. Are you squeezing, you know, as you're at the bottom

of that, you're at these. I'm trying to maintain tension. Maintain tension. Yeah, and in particular, in my ankles and feet, because they want to pronate so bad. So I'm sitting down there trying to activate my feet and trying to get everything lined up and stuff for a minute, 45.

Here's what sucks about that. Sitting in it isn't that bad anymore. The balance is kind of hard for me. I've gotten a couple cramps in my abs, which by the way, if you ever have a muscle cramp in your abs, worst place ever. Here's what sucks. Getting out of the toilet, saying,

okay, getting out of it sucks. When you're down in there and it's hard for you and then I get out of it, I feel like I'm 105. Yeah, you know what I mean? Yeah, you feel the crappy. Yeah, well, that will all change, dude. It will, that all, because I tell you what, when we all got together and we first started this,

I believe I had the worst mobility. I think if we have, No, it was, my one was worse. You think so? I don't know, I'm the first place in bad mobility. It depends on the movement. I'm trying to make it sound good. Yeah, I'm You think so? No, I'm in bad mobility. It depends on the movement. I'm trying to make it sound good. Yeah.

No, I'm mobility. So first of all, you have to understand something here. There's a couple of things we're looking at. There's natural body awareness ability that we all have genetically. And I definitely did not win in that department. So that's number one. Number two.

Do you think that's, is the other thing that's true? Everyone has levels of proprioception. Or the whole thing. I totally, totally. Then there's that. Then there's the fact that you got, the sports that I was engaged in

are different, they required a different type of proprioceptive ability. Like if you put me on the ground on my back, you know, and do stuff like that, then I probably have decent, right? I don't think I'm great, but decent, only because I did Jitsu and stuff like that. Yeah, not a-

But you have me like- Like a familiar position for me. Yeah, if you, no, you're on your knees, then you know what you're doing. If you- Legs up in the air. If you, if you like if we're running and cutting and-

Side to side and jumping and fucking catching and doing shit like that, yeah, no, not so much. Yeah, not so much. Yeah, not so much. Yeah, we know how unathletic you are. I would say though, I don't know. I definitely, I couldn't sit down in a squat. That's for sure. But you have before, what now I do?

No, no, no, you have before that. You lost mobility. Uh oh, I never had it. Got you. You hear what I'm saying? Oh, you don't think you could have, you really think. I never had good mobility. Never. I'm just tight. Yeah, I think just, I'm sure when. Got you. You hear what I'm saying? Oh, you don't think you could have, you really think. I never had good mobility. Never.

I'm just tight. I think that's just, I'm sure when you were playing. What do you see when you're, I don't know what you jits you, there's no way you wouldn't have. Nope. Range of motion. No, I could not sit and I still couldn't sit in a squat even when I was doing that.

Well, even before that, for sure when you were a baby playing with toys, you were sitting in a baby position. No, actually, no, I had an office chair. With my pipe. With my... With my... With my keyboard. With my... With my cr...

I had on a cravon. You know, I was reading books. Picture a baby. Picture a baby. Picture a baby. Little brown baby. Little brown baby. The six planes a lot now.

No, no, no, I never had. Accelerating is a knowledge. What you okay, so here's what you do to understand, what you see with me in terms of how I move and how I function in the gym, is 100% of product of hard work, 20, plus years of training. You know what I'm saying?

So you guys make fun of me, but it's kind of messed up. It's like, I'm as good as I'm gonna get. You're gonna be fun, man. You're maxed out. No, no, no, I'm dedicating now. I'm but it's kind of messed up. It's like, I'm as good as I'm gonna get. You're backstabbing me. No, no, no, no, I'm dedicating now. I'm dedicating some fun. He's saying I'm tried yet. I'm dedicating at least another week to mobility. I'm going back to it.

We fuck it shit. Anyway, what'd you do after? What'd you do after we're just humbling, man? I wouldn't worked out, I wouldn't worked out a bit with my wife at this gym. It's like the family gym. So you get like the Santa Cruz one? Yeah, you fight for like, there's two squat racks

and you know anybody who actually trains is like fighting over him the whole time. So yeah. There's a picture of me up there. Thanks Doug, baby Sal. Baby Sal with the pipe with the pipe. So, so you, let me ask you this, Justin, you're at the family gym.

Yeah, with the wife. After work, it kind of tired. Do you work out like, are you able to focus? Are you this, Justin, you're at the family gym. Yeah, with the wife. After work, it kind of tired. Do you work out? Are you able to focus? Are you kind of like, no, I mean, no, that's, I didn't see your problem with getting into these kind of less intense positions. And my problem as of the last year,

so has been ramping up intensity, because I'm so chill, like, chill and comfortable, and I'm trying to like kind of flow through these functional movements, and like that's made its way into my workouts, predominantly, well besides like squatting and you know, deadlifting occasionally,

and you know, benching and overhead pressing. So you're trying to stop trying to work up. I just, I need to ramp my intensity. I just shared this on my IG, like a couple days ago that I had the first my intensity. I just shared this on my IG, like a couple of days ago that I had the first, like what I would consider an intense workout where I was like sweating from it. It feels like so long.

It took me a month of consistently working my way back in to training, to ramp up the intensity and volume. I couldn't even handle the total volume in an app like, and have you come into the problem where you, you like kind of turn it on Too hard and then you just get super sore. Oh, yeah, cuz you're an idiot even though you know better That's you did you was cute. How much volume? I don't know. I couldn't say that. That was very tough How much of total volume are you doing per body part right now per week per week? Yeah, I don't have I'm not mathematically

per week. I don't have, I'm not mathematically calculating. No, I am actually. I'm not actually calculating right now. I mean, I'm, I've done that so much that I can kind of guess me. What I can tell you is this is I couldn't even complete a full map routine for almost the first month. So you're doing, would you say you're doing less than like 12 total sets per body part per week, or is it higher than that? No, 12 would be like three. Yeah, it was less than that. Right now though.

Oh no, now I'm probably up to about, if I had a guesstimate, I'd say I'm probably between 15 to 20 sets per body part. Okay, that's pretty. And I say 15 to 20 because the way I modify per week. And this is per week, by the way, so the audience knows this isn't one workout. Yeah, split up between two and three workouts. Yes, maybe a Joe Donnelly workout. You know, I could totally identify with Ben Pack

when we were interviewing him. He said, I don't know if you guys remember this, but this is literally how I do it, where I kind of look at myself in the mirror every week and I go, I could use a little more addressing my shoulders. It looks like I need to address my back a little more. And that is what will... That's what dictated your workout?

Yeah, that's what will dictate the amount of volume that I place on that muscle group for that week. So it's kind of how I do it right now. But if I had to guess, I'd say between 15 and 20 sets, but I worked up to that. I'd tell you what, it was the fur, just exactly I had a gas, I'd say, between 15 and 20 sets, but I worked up to that. I mean, I tell you what, it was the fur, just like exactly what Justin said is, I was so mobility driven, and so I was doing all these movements like this,

that were slow control, my heart rates down, my breathing's down, and then I was like, hard to ramp up my heart rate. Yeah, and sustained it. Yeah, that's been a challenge for me. It took a solid month. It took a solid month before I was getting in the gym. And when I say getting after it,

I don't even mean the beast mode. I mean, just like moving from exercise to exercise, getting after it pretty good, breaking a solid sweat from that. That's not super setting, that's not short rest periods. That's just a good intense solid workout, you know, full routine. Yeah, I'm currently, let's see, per body part. I just ramped up my volume.

I'm at like 36, 30, no, sorry, 32 sets per body part per week is what I'm doing right now. Oh, shit, your body is higher now. It's pretty high right now and I'm just doing it to see how I feel as soon as I feel like it's maybe too much. I'm going to back down. That's around the mo, I think the most I'll ever get to is around 40. I've gotten, I'll go up to 40 sets per week,

per body part. And that's usually, I can stay there for a few weeks before I end up, but you guys know, I'm really super, if there's one thing that I do very well as I'm very consistent. I'm hard headed. You know what I didn't realize how high my volume was when I was competing until now, until coming all the way back down and then going like fuck, man

I was I was definitely getting after doing a lot. Yeah, well it was I mean your conditioning on that end was pretty high Yeah, no I could I could run through at least double the amount of sets I am and with maybe one day off a week if that fine in my body. But I think the important note to make is that that's two years into competing. So I was like, I ramped up to that. And that's what I'm doing again right now. And somebody I think, I think,

so was at Zach Harding on our forum just recently gave me a little tag and jab about hoppin it or Thomas. It was Thomas who wanted me to hop in a show with him. And I wouldn't get in a show right now because I'm not ready. Like, I'm not even close to what my body can handle volume wise right now. So I know I'm not in my peak. Like, I'm still ramping up to that.

I would want to be hitting that. And then I would want to cut for a show to bring my best physique. So I know, right now, I could get shredded right now. I think people don't understand that. They don't put that together. At least those that are looking for the most elite level type physique, like it takes time. It takes time to build that muscle density and that muscle mass and the amount of food

and the amount of volume of training that I have to do to have this 230 pound lean physique is a lot. It's a lot of training, it's a lot of food. It's a lot of forcing. Yeah, it's a lot of pushing my body beyond. That's what I mean. Yeah, you're constantly forcing it. Yeah, it's definitely not where my body naturally wants to be.

It takes a lot of... And I love doing it. I really do. I love enjoying it. And I love because I like sharing that process because I know there's a lot of people that want that as much as we could talk all day long about how important it is to have this healthy balance and we should be training around where our body kind of set point is and if you're having to force yourself to eat more, push beyond these limits, then it's not what your body wants, and we should listen that well.

This is true, but I think there's a reason why the supplement industry and magazines and all that shit is so popular and makes so much goddamn money, is because people want that. People want that, and they want to know how to do that. I want to be able to share with people how to do that as safe and as right as possible while also not being. Whatever man as long as you're having fun. Well, and also not to be a fool about it to think that this is what's ideal for my body.

This is not what's ideal for longevity. This is not a healthy, not, this isn't the healthiest way I could be living. It's, I'm going, I'm pushing my body to streams, which I love to do. I'm, I love that we have this control, that if we really put it together, you can actually manipulate and change your body in so many different ways. I had an interesting realization earlier. Someone on the forum was asking how,

because I think in our interview with Ben Pekolsky, he made the comment that the muscle doesn't know where the resistance coming from, doesn't care if it's a machine or a freeway or a cable or whatever right and You know That's true. That's that's gonna say as trainers of we've trained Thousands of everyday people right not just high-level bodybuilders athletes But lots and lots and lots of everyday people and we all know instinctively that that's not true like a but lots and lots and lots of everyday people. And we all know instinctively that that's not true.

Like a, you know, a barbell, you know, row is going to give you different results than a cable row and superior in terms of building muscle. We just know that instinctively. But in terms of the, the, the answer to that question, does, does the body know the difference? Well, do you know the difference? Cause that's my response.

You're part of your body. Do you exactly like when you lift a dumbbell and you lift with a cable, do you know the difference? Because that's my response. You're part of your body. Exactly. Like, when you lift a dumbbell and you lift with a cable, do you know the fucking difference? Well, then stop separating your muscles from you. It is you. It's all of you. If you know the difference, then there is a difference.

So, of course, it's different. Yeah. So, there you go. Yeah, no, I think there is. I think when you are thinking from a... It's so simplistic, though. Yeah. It's just tension. That's all it is. If that's so simplistic though, you know, it's just tension, that's all it is.

If that's all it was, then we could just create and you can take tension. You could create and turn the tension without weight, or you could have a muscle contraction machine, just make your muscle contract really, really hard, and then that would do the same thing. Well, I used to... I was like, where I connected, I understand,

because I used to say this, I used to say this. I used to say that, you know, resist all resistance training is flexion of the muscles with some sort of... I think we all were trained to say that. Right, right. It's flexion of the muscles, right? It's flexion of the muscles once you really understand that, how to contract a muscle properly. Then it doesn't matter.

Right, then it doesn't matter. Then from there, the next thing is changing it up with different stimulus, right then it doesn't matter then then from there the next thing is changing it up with different stimulus Right if I do dumbbells all time then doing cables this and that and we know that the strength curve is different because of the two and how in gravity Because gravity is playing a role when you talk about a pulley system versus a free weight So and each of them have their their benefits. I mean, I think the easy obvious one to to me is, this is more linear. Yeah, the force. It's more linear, and the fact that, you know, when you're stabilizing a dumbbell versus a cable with this consistent, there is, there's more to control that. And anyone who's done it has felt it before.

Yeah, feel it, feel it. When you sit in a machine and you do a preacher bicep curl versus when you sit on a preacher curl and you do a dumbbell, there is a different feel to it for a reason. Well, now besides all that, because obviously the tension is different with free weights because you're fighting gravity versus a pulley or whatever, besides all that, because we can explain

all those little differences. But then I could respond and say, well, what if I made a machine that mimicked the exact tension load that you would get with a dumbbell? Would they still be different? And the answer is still yes. It's still yes. It's, uh, they're, they're, they're, they're, it's much more complex than we, I think we know how to explain, but as trainers, as coaches, anybody who's coached lots and lots of people will tell you that a barbell squat is going to produce for most people more muscle and more strength and better performance than a

hack squat or something that mimics that squat, like a Smith machine or whatever. And this seems to be true for a lot of exercises for most exercises. That's right. Wait, let's just do that. The debate that you could have with that is that under a machine where there's this controlled tension that's safer, easier, free to stabilize allows you to concentrate on utilizing the primary muscles you're trying to target and work versus, you know, so sure, sure. Sure, sure. I understand that, but that wasn't the question.

I had the question. No, no, no. The muscle doesn't know the difference. No, I know what you're saying. Yeah, I mean, yeah, can you isolate more depending on the machine? Probably, definitely because it's, you can direct them better.

It's just removing other factors out of the way. So all you have to focus on is one particular, you know, part of the movement. Yeah. But yeah, as far as like, I mean, I definitely, I know, I noticed a difference. And it'll be interesting to see as I, as I peel down how it looks, because that to me, that's what I'll really know. But I see an aesthetic difference in my physique from the way I've been training now versus what I was training two years ago. It just because I've

so much more barbell focused than I was machines. I utilize machines way more. And there's pluses of minuses to both. I see I saw way more strength gains and size and more functional carryover from obviously the barbell stuff. The machines I do I don't seem to have the same bubbly muscle, shapely look to them. Like I feel like I could create more of this

cartoonish character out of my physique by targeting all these tiny little muscles on my body. Yeah, I think that's why you combine the two of them if you're very advanced. But you won't know until you achieve the same conditioning and size, right? Well, you'll really be able to look at different. But I'll give you, here's the question.

You've worked your legs out for a long time. You did leg presses and hack squats and all these other movements. Is there a difference between those and barbell squats? Oh, yeah. I mean, that's what I'm telling you right now is that my gains that I saw from that has been crazy.

But it's different. Like I said, again, even like I had bubblier looking legs before, we're now, I have like these dense, hard, grainy legs now. It's weird. We can speculate why. Well, I know there's, these are the things, this is why I love what we do because it's science and we're still learning about it. And when you've done as much as we have

with experimenting with yourself and with clients, there's some things that you've seen that you just know is different, and there's something about it, but you can't, we can't, we don't explain it. Yeah, I don't have the words to articulate exactly what it is. I mean, machines are basically creating levers, right? Like they're getting away from like gravitational forces

on some level. So it's like no matter how you manipulate that, like you're taking out one component that's are you there from gravity? Yeah, and that's a good point, because there is no machine that will mimic perfectly what a free weight is. It's just, it's not a free weight.

It's different, it's different. But yeah, saying that your body, your muscles don't know the difference. Well, we tend to separate the systems of the body as if there exist independent of us. If I pull the muscle out of your body and put on the floor, that muscle ain't doing shit. It is no longer you, it is no longer,

you know, so there's the muscle, muscle know, so does the muscle know the difference? If you know the difference, then your muscles probably will know the difference as well. And you know, like here's another one like we could put someone in, we could hook someone's brain up to a computer and have them completely fucking hallucinate and watch their muscles react as if they were in the actual situation. I mean, so to say that the muscles don't know the difference and muscles are dumb to some extent that's true, but to a large extent, no, if you know,

then they probably know too. And there is, I don't know if there's a day, you know what I mean, it's all of you, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. Bring on the pro. Tirtly. Tirtly. Tirtly.

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during a total body routine. Do you always do the same order each workout or do you mix them up? Yes. You know what, yes, yes, yes. This reminds me of what? Do you always do the same order each workout or do you mix them up? Yes, you know Yes, you just want to remind me of what remember Ghostbusters and They're shooting the frickin the ghost and shit with the with their what their beans called their Not active plasm. That's the slime. They're their beams or whatever right? Oh photon their photon beams And like what do you never do you never cross the beams?

It's amazing to me that you have you have this Crazy photographic memory for those things. What's I mean? He has a song where the fuck is my Superpower yeah, I wish I had it for like better me and Justin can con we can actually connect on pop culture to stuff But anyway, what do they always say don't cross the beams because it could fucking destroy you? Don't mix up the extra Sensor universe fucks the whole maps program up. It's like dividing by zero You'll create a singularity in the whole universe

Well, I think you know, there here's a thing. Yes, and no right. I mean Can you I hate it? We say that by the way. I know. I know. I know That's a good way of not agree Yeah, right? Well, yes, yes, and no, right? Yes, in some ways. Well, here's here's the deal like could you order them differently? Well, absolutely. Are you going to potentially get less results going that way? Potentially, yes. Yeah, I think that the way we structured them by doing your big major lifts first, it's part of the programming. Yeah, it's a big part of the,

it's a big key in exercise programming. We consider how people, like how they deal with it, like energy wise and like conditioning wise and like, you know what, you know what is like probably, the order of it basically makes the most sense into where you know, you're not gonna be, it's not gonna have diminishing factors to going through the rest of the workout where you're not going to be, it's not going to have diminishing factors

to going through the rest of the workout where you get fatigued. The goal of exercise programming or the way we put it together in our programs, like maps, the goal is to maximize one of all aspects of the programming are designed and put together and ordered in a way to maximize your results. So it's like we pay, this is why we talk about the programming so much of workouts and

why it's so important. There's all these different factors. That's an experience to hone it. I could try and list all the different factors. We actually did this once. We went up to, I don't remember where we were, but we were putting a program together, and we listed all the things you have to consider when you're programming a workout. And that list got massive,

and then we started, then you start to get real fucking deep in terms of how they interact with each other in what order and which one follows what. So anyway, it's a part of the programming, and it's designed to totally maximize your results. This is why when people follow good exercise programming, they just, they feel the difference. will start maps for example and they're doing a normal workout or when they found a muscle Fitness or whatever and they're blown away and it's not magic. It's just it's good. Well, let's and we've mentioned this before

But let's talk about some of the let's talk about some of the key things that we did because the list is so fucking ginormous Let's talk about some of the big rocks that make a big difference in that we knew would change things for a lot of for a majority, right? Because there's always exceptions to rule on everything too. And you can mix up, by the way, every once in a while mixing up the exercise orders a good thing, by the way. Yeah. And that's why I said yes and no, right? It's yes and no. You're a monkey in the red. Yeah. Right. By doing it intermittently, it wouldn't be a bad thing to say throw a monkey in the red Just miss that throw a monkey Thing now, we just started it's a saying so

Some and people say that in my opinion. I'd like to hear what you guys think in my opinion some of the big things that When people started doing maps and they were just like, fucking mind blown, like, oh my god, it was this program changed so much or I saw so many, so much results. Well, that's the magic behind that was we knew that most people were missing out on the frequency key. Frequency is king. It is king when it comes to building muscle. And because the market has been selling everybody intensity for so long, we knew that a majority of the people were missing out on that piece just because we've

trained thousands of people. When you've trained so many clients, you start to realize there's a common theme. And one of the common themes is most people that would hire one of us would be over training their body and they wouldn't be taking advantage of frequency. So we knew by splitting the muscle up over three days in a week versus, you know, a body part split like most people are doing. We knew right away the body is going to respond to that. So that's the big one, right? Was that the frequency aspect that we included in. Then we also made sure that the major compound lifts, the big barbell lifts, were a staple in every

single workout, which there's another thing that when you start to analyze the average Jaina Joe in their workout, most people don't even have those lifts in there. A lot of people skip those lifts because they're hard. So they avoid them. When they're the biggest bang for your buck, so not only do we make sure they're in the program, we make them a foundation of every. It's just the most effective exercises. I mean, you have to take into account, like what adaptation you're after, what exercises you pick for that particular adaptation, the

rep range, depending on the type of adaptation, the rest, the tempo, then the exercise order and how they follow each other. And then you have to count for the following workout and how that communicates with the first workout and also moving forward to the next workout. Then what are you doing between the rest? Then there's phases and how the phases communicate and all of them have to are geared towards

a particular type of adaptation. So one of the pieces is order of exercises. So for the most part, you know, 95% of the time, if you're following a program that's programmed out by somebody that you trust, they like, if you're following maps, follow the order of the exercises, it would be no different than you saying,

hey, can I just do a totally different workout? I mean, like it's that important. Well, somebody, like I'm over this somebody just throw monkey the rest Don't do that. I'll fuck everything up. Yeah, so somebody just posted on our forum that they just finished the great Transformation photo by the way They went through the whole RGB right so they went all the way through that's right yeah really good right red green And then black and then he says he was asking people's recommendation on what they would do next and I asked him what his goal was

I actually haven't seen what he's responded. This was this this morning But that's kind of along the lines of of this is like we you know We recommend that anybody who has maps is like literally, you know Follow it to a tee every one of them all the way through, if you can't get a fair shot first. Yeah, right. Once you've run through the whole thing, like definitely look at it again, assess it

and see what you can modify and like incorporate and get, you know, add certain things. Like Adam was talking about that one bar that he'll use for squats, you know, that's different. Like, think outside of the box in terms of that, but like try and follow the formula and the sequence. Yeah, once you know your body too,

as you start doing these workouts, then you can start to kind of listen to your body a little more and know how to modify. But I mean, real easy in a nutshell, you do, you know, you gotta realize that the big compound challenging movements are going to tax you more than the smaller, maybe single joint, less taxing exercises.

And so I'll give you two extreme examples, right? A deadlift versus a bicep curl. Like which one is more taxing, which one is more complex? Which one requires more of your cognitive ability and function to focus on the technique and what you're doing versus one that doesn't really require as much. It only makes sense that when you have your most energy, when you're at the least amount of fatigue,

your most focused, which is at the beginning of your workout, that that's where you would take those big complex movements and your secondary muscles are not burnt out. You know, you're not. There's that too, right? Yeah, yeah. I mean, if you are going to do a bench press, doing a shoulder and a tricep exercise before it, it's not an ideal situation.

You're not going to get the most out of that bench press. And the bench press is what gives you the most. It's like, it's all kind of mathematical when you think about it, right? Like if we gave it a point system like, okay, all these exercises give you points towards, you know, getting towards your goal. And so if you valued a bench press at five points, a tricep and a shoulder exercise, you know, like a basic, you know, dumbbell, you know.

I just keep thinking as you're talking about this. Somebody right now is writing an app, just keep thinking as you're talking about this, somebody right now is writing an app based off of what you're talking about. That's actually, it would be kind of cool to have. We talked about that, about doing an app that would do that, but man, the moving parts, how would you enter that and do that? Yeah, it would be hard, but you know,

you need like a fucking keyway for developers. So people get an idea that you, if your bench press gives you five points in the shoulder, you know, lateral raise and the, you know, tricep push down are one and a half points. You want the most energy going into the one that's going to give you five points. So you get the most amount of points at it because if you half-ass the bench press, even though it's worth five points, you may only get four out of it. And you might get all one and a half points

out of their shoulder exercise and the tricep regardless. Regardless, right. So think of it like that. Like that. Hopefully I didn't just confuse the fuck out. Okay, Rich. I just threw a monkey in it.

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book. Lastly, you can go to go get natureblendend.com forward slash mine pump and you will get a discount on Ben Greenfield CBD product. Our next question is from FIT Sean Fatt to fit. You guys mentioned now that Prime Pro is out that maps is complete. So what types of programs are you guys going to launch down the road or are all full programs done with so we we thought Prime pro would complete that that was the and then I had a dream That was like you know when when Star Wars finally finished I guess you know like that's the universe. I don't all right. I was I like keep going I was there I was the one who said that and I don't know. I was, I like keep going. I was there. I was the one who said that.

And I don't think I'm, I think I came off a little wrong when I said that like it's complete. What was complete and what I meant by that was, we know at one point a big part of where mind pump will go is to training the trainers. And that's our passion. It's actually more than anything else we talk about. We, that's where what we love to do is to help.

Actually, better at that. We are in training class. We really are. So I look forward to the day that we are focused a lot on the fitness professionals out there that are giving this type of information. We knew that if we were going to do this on a large scale, that we would need all of these maps put together.

So now we now have that. on a large scale that we would need all of these maps put together. So now that we now have that. So we are in a position now, if we were to let's say, you know, train 50 trainers on how to be better trainers, we have all the tools from, you know, a assessment and understanding dysfunction and joint pain and all the things that would help. And it happened to our minds of how we would program like every

Individual and like what that would look like like we I mean There's a lot that we can do with just that piece alone not to mention even the business side of it that I think that would be a great contribution right exactly, you know When all the maps programs now kind of cover the major, like the basis, right? So we've covered the entry level, real foundational type, build general strength and general muscle with maps and a ballic. Maps for Foreman's covered that functional kind of athletic

side of things. Esthetic was our competitor, so really learning to sculpt the body, you know, prime. Obviously, had a prime your workouts and post-prime them. And then we got, you know, prime pro, which is your assessment type. You have your, you know, one that doesn't work out that you know, where you can do them at home. Like, we covered all the bases.

But if we did write more programs, we definitely could. It would probably be either more specific, like, you know, programs for specific sports or we would go back through our programs and revamp them and maybe do a pro series of all the maps programs. Because I could definitely see us doing that. Like, I could see a map's endabolic pro. Yeah, there's a lot more coached than a pro. A lot more coached than a pro.

We can add to, you know, the program's sure. Like, like, like, like, map's systemic is a great program for stage competitors bodybuilders Busy bikini like you could easily do a map systemic pro and include like the prep like the contest prep side I've been like what you do up until the day of competition, you know type of deal like I could see that too You know, I can see a performance like, adding very specific like competitive lifts, right? So like I'm doing like a power cleaner. Or specific sports. Or specific attributes like math performance pro

is like endurance athlete, strength athlete, you know. Like combine training. Yeah, like these kind of tests. I thought, you know, completely about, you know, running through different techniques and ways to prep before these types of tests and markers that you're trying to achieve. So I guess the point was that it's not complete as it's never over, right? So what's complete is that we now have the tools to, I think, educate train trainers to be better trainers with their clients. And that was the main thing for us. I think we have tons of ideas on how we can evolve

each one of their programs because there's a ton that we can build upon them. And even getting into coaching points on all those programs, I think that's a big one for us. So I think a lot of what we're gonna do now will be spent working in the business. That's been the big focus for July and all the projects for us is to enhance

The process for somebody who's coming on to mind pump and just getting started with maps and experiencing Everything that we have right now is so we're trying to enhance that process Ray de Keso is asking what's your opinion on yoga for flexibility and mobility training? He's a foam fighter and is debating adding a yoga practice to a strike training. What's a foam fighter? No, is that like larping? Yeah, it is. No, it's not. Yes, it is. Wait. Oh, I did show this a video. They hold they have foam. I look at a whack each other They have like foam swords and show that it's not real. Yes, it is Doug You have to get to this thing. It's a thing. It's not just like Well, let him finish it. Well, he just wants to know if adding yoga is gonna be a good idea for his

Well, first we need to see what phone fight. Yeah, we got to get the full picture Yeah, you gotta do that whole I have the video here actually. I just pull I pulled up I would I would recommend probably something that's Gonna help you with not getting your ass kicked. That's what I would do Maybe some strength something that's gonna help you with not getting your ass kicked That's what I would do. Maybe some strength Stop phone fighting You know is it for real they'd argue Look look like so they have a hundred percent. This is one of Justin's wait a minute

Wait a minute so they have shield they're pretending to get their legs cut off so they're like crawling Yeah, it's great. Yeah, so, so let's go ahead and hit pause there, Doug. It's loud there, see, and they throw spears made out of foam. Yeah, you make fun, dude. I would totally do this. Of course you would. So let's just pretend for a second.

We have a time machine, and we took like, like the average guy from like 1500 something, and brought him forward, and he's like, what do men do nowadays? And like, let me show you. And he sees this shit. What would he think? What the fuck happened you guys you take a sword and slice it? We become pussy's I didn't real I didn't know that was real. Yeah, they fight they have rules and they hit each other with

foam Well, I love it. I would love to host a larping No, no, no, it's not large. We should, yeah. Phone fighting, they hit each other like and they're gold to fuck with each other. I feel like it's really close. You and the physique world, I think, I should enter. Yeah.

You know what? You know what? You know what? You would be the other one. There is no doubt in my mind. This is one of Justin's fans. For me, I will whack people. For sure, Justin's fans.

Yeah. Here's the thing, my people. I don't think Justin, I bet they met Justin at one of one of the I don't think Justin should do this because I feel like Justin would be the fucking asshole. I'll put like a thumbtack in his phone. He's your they're big. Yeah, they're not. I would get the heaviest one and you know, not people out.

Yeah, they have big battles. Nobody has arms. No, so so phone fighting, you know, it's an activity requires lots of movement like a sport yoga Well definitely help with Okay, I We're gonna have to do something special duck. Can you please put this guy's name? No, because I think I'm gonna want I want him to call in and I just want to really want to attend one of these

Well, I just want to ask how one gets into this. Yeah. Where does, like, I, no one ever invited me to one of these. I don't understand where, how does, how does these even start? Like, do we have, do we, do we be cool at them? Do we have these around here? Do we have, you should know this then. I don't understand how you got tired of rolling dice. This is far too, far too dangerous for me.

Far too dangerous. You get hit with a foam saw sore really hard in your eyeball. Do we have these? You can probably get eyeball. Do we have these locally? Can we do? Can we do? Can we do a? I don't know. San Jose phone. Fine. I feel like I feel like we're in Silicon Valley. I feel like the largest league is probably here. That's what I feel like San Jose probably the biggest. They're leagues. I don't know. But if they do have a league, I would bet San Jose's a champion team.

Okay, we need to go back and ask the question, because I totally forgot what we're being asked right now. The question is, this is all news to me right now. The question is, will yoga benefit his flexibility and mobility in any studies of foam fighter? And my answer was, yoga is an excellent structured form of functional flexibility training. So the reason why I'm saying it that way is you can individualize functional flexibility

training and it'll be better than yoga. Dude, do maps prime pro. Yeah. If you want something to work on your flexibility and you want something more specific to you, specifically mobility. You've got strength in that range. Exactly. That's why I say that because that's the the one knock that I have on yoga

Is that if you because like most things because we're creatures to have it We find something we like this flexibility is what you're trying to achieve when in fact you need supported Strengthen that range of motion that you're utilizing so before you guys continue you need to know that Real yoga what I mean by that you guys that you definitely you guys continue, you need to know that real yoga, what I mean by that. You guys are referring to like Yin yoga, where it's not nearly as popular as the normal, Sun-Salutation type class is like Vinyasa flow. Like that's the most, if you go to yoga school,

most classes will be the ones that take you through these poses, they will have probably a Yin yoga type class, but it's going to be like once a week. I don't know. The most of the ones that we had teaching at 24 hour fitness and we had around the area were, were your basics. So Yen, Yen yoga, where you're, Yen would be more like you get down the floor,

get in the stretch and you sit there, stretch. Yes. You lay there, you breathe. Yeah. Yeah. Most, most yoga I've been doing. Yeah. No, most yoga that people do is's what's the problem I've been doing. No, most yoga that people do is this active form

where you get into these positions. Now, can you be passive in those positions? Yeah, so I can get in warrior one, warrior two, or whatever. And I can allow my joints to support me and let my feet press out against the grippy mat, and I can kind of sit in this position, which most people do. But a yoga instructor or the good ones at least, and I know because my girlfriend's yoga

instructor, she'll tell you like, you are not supposed to sit in this stretch, you are supposed to be activating these muscles like when you're in war, you're not an important thing, you know, that they need to reiterate to a lot of people that go to these classes. Yes, and I've been to some great studios, and the yoga instructors will talk about that quite a bit. But by doing that, by activating or being active in these positions that puts you into stretch, you do increase functional flexibility

because you're connecting to the stretch. So this is why I say, and why I've always said yoga, if you're trying to pick a structured like class type setting and you're like, look, I like to take a class, I want to take something structured, but I also want to work on flexibility mobility. There's nothing better than yoga for that specific thing. If you want something specific to yourself,

prime pro or something individualized like that will blow it away. Just because it's going to be based on your body, not just following a class or whatever, or a series of poses. Can you spell the R-E-Y, what's the R-E-Y-D, what is it? We're gonna that shoulder mobility for those strikes. You know, you should.

Like he's legit. He even his Instagram is a picture of him getting ready to phone five. He's in foam and he looks like a handsome cool dude. I wanna know all the terminology, you know. Love it a little. He phone me. Yeah, exactly.

I think I wanna let him call in and ask a question. You smiley. Well, let's keep going. Don't say that yet. I just wanna ask. I wanna know how this, I wanna hear this short. I'm curious as well. Right, you can call in.

I don't know, have you ever met a phone fighter? I found a whole website devoted to it and realm locators So you can find all oh you just conveniently found that huh? Well, that's like it. Yeah, of course they would call the locations realms realm locator. Yeah, wow It's called Bella Garth is there a medieval combat society Wow, yeah, and now how many is there a lot Doug? Is it all over. Holy shit.

Oh my God. Look at that. Hey, maybe we should compete. I'm telling you, dude. I don't think, I don't think Justin will be like, I'll be like the mountain. You know, you be aggressive. Yeah, can we please do a YouTube vlog?

Are you serious? Justin goes larping. That's what I do. No, not larping. My home fighting. My character's gonna be a Viking. Justin goes. Pillage is.

I just pillage. Brape and pillage, that's a pillage. I don't have no structure. It's all anarchy. I can't off a boat, just pillage. Listen, don't make tries to kill me, but they can't. Yeah. You can get kicked out.

I'm the Viking. You're gonna get kicked out. Yeah. All right, next one. I am the axe wielding Viking. All right, stop throwing a monkey in the red. Yeah. Quick commercial break, you guys.

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who's ever arm wrestled their dad and he's, or a grandpa and they just, or he picks up this heavy bag of cement, you just would never have never thought you could. I attribute or we attribute that to your central nervous system that because you've been on this earth for so long, even if you're like and you sound gives a great analogy of think of your central nervous system like your amplifier, think of your speakers like your muscles and even if you don't have very big speakers because you don't train them all the time and stimulate them all the time,

you have small speakers, you might have small looking muscles. You're extremely strong because you have this strong amplifier. And that's just because your body just communicates better. Right, you've been speaking to those muscles for four seasons. Yeah, communication of cells is like Dr. Andrew Spina

talks about and it just makes so much sense. Like you've built this communication system that's so efficient and loud, all over those years of constantly doing things that taught it, the most efficient pathway to achieve the objective. Now, of course, this could totally be overridden by being super sedentary and not moving.

And so if you're sending all the wrong patterns. If you're 50 and you're totally inactive, well, you're not gonna be as strong as you were when you were 20. And it's really like, you know who it is? It's normally the carpenter dad. That's what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying?

The plumber dad, the dad that has been physically active for so many years. Or someone who's been lifting. You know, how many times have you guys seen in the gym, the frickin, you know, the 50 year old dude that's just dead lifting and fucking lifting like, ungodly way. Make your hand and almost like breaks your bones. Yeah, I mean, you lose agility, you lose speed, mobility, power,

you know, boxing, in boxing, there's a saying that the last thing to leave a boxer is his power, right? Is his power, right? You lose speed right away. Now, part of that isn't because they're necessarily stronger, but because again, they know their bodies so well, they're able to place that punch and generate strength because of their technique very, very well.

Jordan, they've been greasing the groove for 50 years. Think about that. You know what I'm saying? They've been greasing the groove for 50 years. I'll tell you what right now, if you encounter a 50, 60 year old retired boxer on the street, and you're trying, you're thinking you're a bad ass,

and you're gonna start a fight. He's gonna knock you the fuck out. I've seen this in person, I've seen this happen in person, if you go on YouTube, there's many videos of these like 57 year old or 60 year old boxers just putting kids asleep because they're testing him out. I mean, they're in their bodies that whole time, they're very connected to it.

They know how to move it, they know how to generate the most force. It happens naturally. And here's a good example of what we're talking about. You could take a 17 year old giant kid who just went through puberty, he's 200 pounds, looks like a phenom, right? And you watch them move and stuff and they're goofy.

And they're not goofy because they're goofy people, it's because they literally just grew their body and they're getting used to it. You see this with dog, you ever notice, you get like a big breed dog, like a rot wiler. And they're full size. I'd say great dainst and masters are like this. It's funny to watch them as puppies.

Yeah. When they're like seven months old and they're like a hundred pounds, I used to mess with our master that we have, push on them and it'd be all tripping over his feet and stuff and he's just big and clumsy. I mean, imagine right now, if you're listening right now, imagine if you had magic and all of a sudden

you woke up tomorrow and you were four inches taller and 15 pounds heavier, okay? How clumsy would you be with that new body? That's an extreme analogy, but if you're a 45, 55 year old man, you've been fit, you've been, you've been active that whole time, you've got incredible neuromuscular control of your body. So although you have lower testosterone,

and although you may actually have smaller muscles, that strength is there and sometimes better, many times it's better. Well, you made a good point. I'm glad you said that too when I mentioned that, is that it does matter that they've been using it, right? Because you could also have the other extreme of somebody who is disconnected, and because typically as we age, if you're not using it, you lose it.

Yeah, you will shut it down, and that old man's strength won't apply. So old man's strength really applies to those physical, fit dads that have been lifting and exercising and doing stuff their whole life. And even though they don't look all big and muscular, the motherfuckers are strong. So my dad is a great example of this. And although now he's got lots of pain throughout his body because of just the hard labor. So it was my stepdad since he was a child, right?

My, even now you guys have met my dad, even now you shake his hand, you're like you're grabbing a brick. But I remember probably seven years ago, so he was like 49 or 50. He would come to my Jiu-Jitsu classes. So I was training in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu. I'm in my late 20s or early 30s.

My dad is active in the sense that he does construction work or whatever. So that's his exercise, right? He comes to these Jiu-Jitsu classes and he has a judo background. So my dad was a kid, he did a lot of judo but then he didn't do any as an adult. And he's taking these classes

and everybody who's going against him is like, what the fuck, I can't move him. He feels like he's taking these classes and everybody who's going against him is like, what the fuck, I can't move him. He feels like he's a statue. And especially in the stand-up because of his judo background, I remember there was this one dude that took the class, it was this, he weighed about 300 pounds, he was a Canadian pro football player who would come down and then he took Jiu-Jitsu. So he was a white belt, he didn't have any technique, but he's a big dude.

And he was remarkably mobile. The guy could do cartwheels and all kinds of stuff, just a big athlete. And we were all doing stand-up for throws or whatever. So my dad's got technique, but he's also got this silly, man, old man's strength, especially in his hands, which he's always used a lot for his whole life. So he goes against this big dude,

and the big dude can't throw my dad. My dad can't throw him because he's so big. They break grips, the guy reaches forward to grab my dad's key and my dad grabs his hand and just fucking crushes this big dude's hand and the guy taps out and the whole class was like, crushing his hand. He took his, you know how you do that

where you interlock him over. And he just, he sucked him in and just bent his wrist back. And this big 300 pound dude hits the ground and it's like tapping like crazy. The whole class, which is busted up laughing. And then he would always mention Old Man Strength. Iron grip, he called him, an Old Man Strength. And I was like, man, I had to grow up.

Now, it's true, did you guys watch the ultimate fighter season where Ronda Rousey was on there? Her mom comes down and like whoops up on everybody. Oh, no, that's cool. Yeah, Old Woman Strength. Yeah, yeah, no, for sure. I mean, it applies to men and women. It's not just a man thing.

It's just if you've been, that's actually very true. Because when I was a kid, my grandma would fuck you. Like you couldn't, she grabbed your ass. You're gonna stay exactly where you're being held. And I'm talking like you're a 13 year old boy and you can't get it away from your grandpa. That's very humbling.

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