Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 569: CrossFit Games Analysis, How to Build Confidence, 3 Ideal Supplements & MORE

Episode Date: August 9, 2017

Organifi Quah! iTunes review winners! In this episode of Quah, sponsored by Organifi (organifi.com, code "mindpump" for 20% off), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about the CrossFit games... and if CrossFit athletes are the fittest in the world, if they could only take 3 or fewer supplements what they would be, how they built confidence and the dumbest piece of fitness equipment. Guys about fitness freaks of nature (3:50) Genetics Human geniuses CRISPR Guys talk weekend sporting events (12:10) Hall of Fame speeches Usain Bolt’s final race Guys talk Justin’s BIG meeting / Having confidence (16:30) Go do you Adam talks his Green Mint Chocolate Chip Pancakes (22:00) Sal and his family make homemade tomato sauce (24:20) Quah question #1 – Did you guys watch the CrossFit games? Do you think they are truly the fittest in the world? (28:55) What is your definition of fittest? Specialized skill Not a great way to stay/get in shape Approach mentality of it’s a sport Quah question #2 – If you can only take 3 or fewer different supplements, what would they be? (48:00) Adam focusing on vitamin D intake Sal always  takes probiotic for gut health Justin drinking green juice lately Ashwagandha Quah question #3 – How did you guys build confidence? (58:30) Adam bullied as a kid Realized people reflecting their own insecurities Justin felt most comfortable/confident through sports Put himself in uncomfortable situations to build himself up Sal was very assertive Oldest of 4 siblings Confidence is self-belief Quah question #4 – What is the dumbest piece of fitness equipment you have purchased? (1:19:15) Body Blade Perform better website Vibrating foam roller Battle Ropes Olympic greens Vertical jump test Get our newest program, MAPS Prime Pro, which shows you how to self assess and correct muscle recruitment patterns that cause pain and impede performance and gains. Get it at www.mindpumpmedia.com! Get MAPS Prime, MAPS Anywhere, MAPS Anabolic, MAPS Performance, MAPS Aesthetic, the Butt Builder Blueprint, the Sexy Athlete Mod AND KB4A (The MAPS Super Bundle) packaged together at a substantial DISCOUNT at www.mindpumpmedia.com. Make EVERY workout better with our newest program, MAPS Prime, the only pre-workout you need… it is now available at mindpumpmedia.com Have Sal, Adam & Justin personally train you via video instruction on our YouTube channel, Mind Pump TV. Be sure to Subscribe for updates. Please subscribe, rate and review this show! Each week our favorite reviewers are announced on the show and sent Mind Pump T-shirts! Have questions for Mind Pump? Each Monday on Instagram (@mindpumpradio) look for the QUAH post and input your question there. (Sal, Adam & Justin will answer as many questions as they can)

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Starting point is 00:00:00 If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, with your hosts. Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. In this episode of Mind Poo! We're bringing it! Poo! For about 26 minutes, we do some bullshit, and we talk about these genetic freaks that we see all over social media like Brad Castleberry He breaks world records every day every single day apparently me too. We talk about the genetic
Starting point is 00:00:34 Variances between individuals like do super super smart people feel like they're just walking around a world full of idiots We talk a lot about that. We talk about genetic engineering and what we would do if we had the ability to engineer our genetics. We would like Justin's calves, for example. We talk about Justin's big meeting. We can't talk too much about it because it's a secret, but it is big. Super secret.
Starting point is 00:00:59 And it is a meeting. Yeah. Then we talk about how to pick. It's a meeting. Then we talk about Adam's a meeting then we talk about Adams recipe for mint chocolate chip Pancakes, you should mention that that recipe the for sure recipe because I just kind of blurted out what I thought it was is on the Organify Website and then you go to their blogs. Oh, and by the way if you get any of their products
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Starting point is 00:01:51 in the world? No, I brought out the popcorn. Then we get into what we would take if we could only take three supplements or less, which ones would we choose. Then we answer the question, how we built so much confidence, because you know, we walk around with this.
Starting point is 00:02:08 We know everything. Yeah, this aura of invincibility. How did we get it? Is it cocky or is it confident? Probably both. Then finally, the final question is we answer the question, what is the dumbest piece of fitness equipment that we've ever purchased?
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Starting point is 00:03:40 So send the name I just read to itunes at minepumpmedia.com. Yourcom Your shirt size your shipping address and we'll get that right out to you Brad Castleberry breaks world records every day for all records mother that's what he says that every day Every day breaks world records. Bro. What if he is that strong? And everybody says fake weight in something, but he's at 24 our fitness every day doing these weights with a bunch of people around Don't you power lift? Don't you think someone would be able to film him bringing fake weights in and stuff? I agree. So I think you might legit be that strong.
Starting point is 00:04:13 Well, I did see a guy break down, like right, they did a YouTube on him. They showed like how some of his videos are Photoshopped, right, are edited, and they edited more weights on the video. But no matter what, I think he's still doing like five plates on, he's not like he's not doing any of it. It's not like he's really doing like 145 and he's pretty 12 plates on that.
Starting point is 00:04:36 I think he's doing like nine and then he puts 10 on that. Here's why I think the guy's phenomenal because some of the stuff you can't Photoshop like, have you seen him sprint and jump out of the pool pool and do a kick flip on the fucking skateboard right he's kind of a freak he is you could tell by his honestly when you look at his he's he's hella flexible if there's a guy if there's a guy that could do that his he has the build when you look at his stature like if there's somebody who's lifting that kind of like a video game yeah no he really like he really it like his is waste and his
Starting point is 00:05:06 Shoulders are just broad super wide like super wide. He looks like he was built to lift a lot of fucking way It looks like a video game avatar like if you have three choices you can pick the elf You can pick the wizard or you can take the warrior. Yeah, I'll take the warrior. Please and it's Brad You know what I'm saying? It's funny that you see that. It's Brad Lee Martin. He's caught him out though. All people. Bradley Martin did like, it was like 405 or something. And like he went from a squat down into Indian position.
Starting point is 00:05:35 With 405. Yeah. I was pretty crazy. Bradley Martin's a freak too. I mean, he's a, now he has like, I believe a powerlifting or Olympic lifting background. I think he did that for many years before that. There's some crazy people out there.
Starting point is 00:05:51 There's this one dude I follow. What's his name? Arminian Strength. That guy's a fucking piece. He's a track athlete in college, or I don't know if he's still in there or not, but there's this kid. And he's muscular.
Starting point is 00:06:01 He's not massive, but he's like, he's strong, like silly strong. You know what I mean? Have you seen this, the little black kid that's from either South Africa or from Jamaica, one of the other, can't remember, should I have you seen him? No, what did he do?
Starting point is 00:06:16 He looks like old, it's like an old gym, shittiest weight. Oh, with a little, like, cement blocks and shit. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, No, no, no, no. I mean, yeah, he's in some of those videos, but some of his squat videos and some of the weight that he's pushing and pulling is just insane. There's a couple, there's like four or five guys that I follow that do. What people don't realize is that people like this,
Starting point is 00:06:33 like who we're talking about, if they never lifted weights, they're still strong, strong as fuck, you know what I mean? Like I bet you these guys, first one of the gym, like I bet you Castle Bear is like, oh, I'm gonna try working out. I'm just like, okay, here's how you do a squat. And he's like, all right, and he's like gonna try working out. He's like, okay, here's how you do a squad. And he's like, all right, and he's like, three, fifteen.
Starting point is 00:06:48 He's like, cool, this is the first time. Remember when we were hanging out with Ben, right? Ben Pack, he said the first time he ever got under the bar, he squatted like four plates. Like the first time. Yeah, the first time he ever squatted was like, four, five, and I think this works. Yeah, and I think he said like, four, 4.95 or something for his first time ever, first time ever dead left against squatting.
Starting point is 00:07:06 So you know it's crazy. So you know it's cool about this, when I think about this, like the differences in genetic ability, how crazy they can be, how dramatic they can be, and how hard I work to try and be strong on whatever hell right.
Starting point is 00:07:19 Now think about it this way. There's gotta be that variance, and the reason why it's cool with physical feats is because it's very objective and clear. You can lift this much, he can lift that much. It's very clear, right? But think about this now. Think about the genetic variances with mental ability.
Starting point is 00:07:36 Like, think about geniuses. Like, how do they see the world and think of things? Same thing to me. Could you imagine being like one of those people and just you'd be surrounded by idiots all the time? But everybody'd be so dumb like you'd walk around. Well, this is like, oh, this is why I mean, I kid this board at school all the time, you know.
Starting point is 00:07:51 He's just like, ah, fff. Well, I feel like it's the reason why sometimes these guys come off as kind of an asshole because they just feel like everybody is so stupid. You know, it's like they're, it's like they're a luth, they come across a luth. Right, they're just like, they're playing a game at a whole other level than everybody else.
Starting point is 00:08:06 It's just not even fun for them to communicate with everybody else. It's just like, ugh. It's just, ugh. So, beneath me. And we call them, it's true though, we call them weird, we call them eccentric, we call them nerds. But I think they're so smart
Starting point is 00:08:19 that they just don't care about the same shit. You know what I'm saying? Like, absolutely. I don't wanna call my hair, who cares? I'm trying, I'm contemplating the nature of the universe. Yeah. Who gives a shit about my hair? We're like, you're a bookie.
Starting point is 00:08:30 It's for God particle, man. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? But can you do it? God, I wish you could just like. Well, when you use the analogy of comparing it to like really strong genetically gifted people or like athletes that are genetically gifted,
Starting point is 00:08:42 when you think about that, like imagine a pro NFL player, like he's not gonna have fun playing football with a bunch of pop Warner kids. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like he's not gonna have to regular people. Yeah, like a bunch of regular people. Like that's not fun for him.
Starting point is 00:08:57 Like that's not, he's not gonna do that. Like it's just, you don't wanna do that. And I think that's how somebody who's like super intelligent probably feels having like a normal conversation. So take it to the next level. They now have, we have the technology to hackers. We have the technology to edit human genes now. So with CRISPR.
Starting point is 00:09:16 Yeah. So what are they called that by the way? I don't know, it sounds like a chip. Sounds yummy. Yeah, yeah. I got some CRISPR going on. It's crispy. This is spying this to me.
Starting point is 00:09:24 So there's this technology that they've been using and they've used it on animals, but now they can do it on humans where they can edit genes. So the reason why they're using it on or gonna use it on human embryos or they're selling people to why they want to use it on human embryos is to eliminate genetic diseases. So they'll go in and they'll use this technology
Starting point is 00:09:47 and say, okay, your child is not gonna have all these potential genetic issues. And that's how they're gonna sell it. But I know for a fact, it's gonna go the next level. People are gonna want certain heights and certain attributes. Come on, dude. We're gonna create a race of like a bunch of
Starting point is 00:10:04 like Stephen Hawking smart Brad Castleberry Bill Brad, you know, look in yeah Well, where I so perfect where I trip out and then we're all gonna look like idiot. Yeah Who was crooked nose? Who was here in the studio just recently where we were all having this conversation? Oh was Josh Trent and I was speculating that what if this is the natural progression, and this is what we're supposed to, and the rest of us that are resisting it are just silly, you know, like this is, that's what we are, like we are supposed to evolve to this, like why wouldn't you want to download a better program for yourself?
Starting point is 00:10:41 Like if you could download, you know, better cabs, like why would I not do that? Like fucking download that shit. Like if I could work less at him, dude, I put four days a week in him and they fucking look terrible. Like, so bullshit. Like if I could put some software on him, do some things. And it's some jeans in there.
Starting point is 00:10:57 And it's some jeans in there. It'd be awesome. And he fucked you for judging me for wanting to do that. You know what I mean? Hey Justin, let me download your program for calves. God damn it. Yeah, I don't like the one I'm okay. I don't like the one I was born with.
Starting point is 00:11:09 But I mean, I'm gonna have to work for these. I'll give you my tanning ability. Let's do a trade. All right. That's unfair. But so what about this, right? So let's say you go in with a girl. You're like, okay, this girl I want to be with.
Starting point is 00:11:21 We both want to have a child together. And the scientists are like, okay, we're going to take your genes, we're going to take her genes, and we're going to look at the best potentials that you guys have together. Like, what if that still sucks? You know what I say? Like, what if it's like, well, you're like, ah, you know, like, here's the best we could do with, I can't even find somebody else.
Starting point is 00:11:38 Yeah, with what you guys are giving us. So then what's the next level that there is no, like, they'll take like a super base scaffolding of your genes, and they just make up a bunch of shit. Like, okay, we're gonna give your son, your future son, the ability to hold his breath like a whale. So we're gonna use whale, we're gonna use a whale. We have some gorilla in there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:56 We're pathetic and weak. What's gonna happen? We hook you up. What is gonna happen? Yeah. Well, I, yeah, did you guys see, it's gonna get weird. Either I know, Sal probably didn't. Justin. Did you see that there was the, uh, Hall of Flank, the Hall of Flank,
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Starting point is 00:12:30 He gave a great speed gave a great he actually gave a really good speech. Oh, you saw that no Get out of here. I'm not to trust you immediately. He doesn't even know who that is bro. Yeah, obviously an athlete Obviously an athlete Hold on. What was that? Guess the sport. I wasn't paying for it. Medanian, Thomasin. Come on, that's fucking basketball.
Starting point is 00:12:50 Oh, man, dude. That's the best. He plays basketball on the side, but it's not that bad. On the side, it's on the weekends. His sport is football. Uh, duh. Did you guys see Usain Bolt run his last run? He lost, huh?
Starting point is 00:13:04 He did lose. Yeah lose to a kid. Yeah, guys like 21 or 22 years old. Now is it because Usain retired after he lost? I think he's going to. Is it going to? Yeah, I didn't want. But a horrible way to retire. I know, I didn't go out like that.
Starting point is 00:13:17 Well, I think they thought he was still going to win this one. They said if they figured if he could run it under 99, I think is what I heard them say that. Now is he slower? Is that why the kid won? Or is it because he's slower? So that kid didn't run as fast as he's saying did when he was fast. Yeah, they finally are catching up to his speeds.
Starting point is 00:13:32 Man, just a few years. They were in the already like win. I was walking on the treadmill when they were doing before the race and so I got to watch all the lead ups. Start running along with them. Oh, I tell you what, I'm not gonna lie. They were what supported me, they almost wanted to run. And you know me, I don't run.
Starting point is 00:13:48 But I was like, Katrina and I was like, do you feel like you want to run right now? I kind of want to run right now. Only, it's only 80, Aaron, what is it? What is it? Not 40, how many, what is he run? He runs the, is he 400 meters? What does he run?
Starting point is 00:14:00 I don't know. Yeah, it's like, not very far. It's not like Miles. It's not like Miles. It's not Miles. So like, I could do that. I can't know. Yeah. It's like not very far. It's not like my all sprint. Yeah, it's not miles. So I could do that. I can run 400 meters. It just doesn't, you know, it's funny about like, as I get older, I'm realizing because I, you know, I was playing with the kids the other day and I'm like running and stuff. And I never really run and do shit like that. I just feel like, fuck, I suck.
Starting point is 00:14:20 This is not, this isn't feel good enough for you. It doesn't feel comfortable. Yeah. I think I need to start running. You know what I'm saying? I want to watch you run. Huh? I want to watch you I feel intimate though the way you said that I feel weird now I'm just said that with the weird voice. I want to sit in the chair. Just watch you run. I want to watch you run Boy, feels really weird. Yeah, did you did you ever will enter you to the Hall of Flamers? Did you ever go through a face how were you ran? Like, did you ever go through a phase where you ran? When I was doing Jiu-Jitsu, I would part of my workouts on the side
Starting point is 00:14:51 where I would run like five miles, 10 miles, stuff like that. Oh, okay. And then there was a short period of time where I was doing uphill sprints just for fun, but I would never, no, I usually stand my ground, you know what I mean? So I just fight or flight, I find my ground. I just, I stay in flight.
Starting point is 00:15:06 It's really solid to the ground. Yeah. By the way, you're an asshole, by the way. Well, let you know you're an asshole. When you, when you, when you fucking pulled me backwards at the band, the best was the very end which got cut out. You fell like hard. I fell and you fell on top of me. I did fall on top of you afterwards.
Starting point is 00:15:25 You know what, it's a very terrifying feeling to run backwards off balance. Off balance, because you don't know what's behind you. You just took off and you're like, oh, shit. You gave me a chance to catch my footing. I think Taylor said that was the most commented video he'd ever put up on the page. It was, it was pretty epic.
Starting point is 00:15:46 Of course it was. What sucks about that is you have to sit around in like, you don't know what's gonna happen. Oh, it's something gonna be terrible. Right, he always has to get back. It's gonna be something terrible. And I might wait a year. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:16:00 I like the waiting part more than anything. Well, we're about to be, we're about to spend a couple nights together. Yeah, I'm wondering. You guys, like, I like the waiting part more than anything. Well, we're about to spend a couple of nights together. Yeah, I'm wondering. You guys, like, staying in the same room. Yeah, we're trying to save money so we can do this. I'm gonna do something more. We're all through one bed.
Starting point is 00:16:12 Yeah, one bed, one room. No, she didn't. Yeah, she's like, we're not sharing a bed. Yeah, she's like, you guys can sleep at the hotel. It's not like one video. I feel like this is a trap. It's a trap. It's gonna be, it's gonna be something so terrible though,
Starting point is 00:16:22 Justin, like, something like, like, everyone's gonna be like, that's not even funny, it's just fucked up. Like, why would you do that to him? Yeah, and I'm laugh, I'll probably get a missus one. Like a break to the face. Yeah, something terrible. What time is your meeting, Justin? Yours is at Tuesday at what time?
Starting point is 00:16:35 9. 9 a.m. Oh, in the morning. That's early. Nine. Well, apparently that's how they roll. Are you like power pointing it and everything? Or what are you doing?
Starting point is 00:16:45 There'll be power point. But mainly it's just demonstration and it's conversation. So they just wanted to appear into, you know, like my philosophy and they want to like a good, they want time to basically use it and play around with it. So we can't say much, but you have a big presentation. You got a big presentation. That's all we can say, right? Yeah. you have a big, you got a big presentation. That's all we can say right for the outside. Thank you for not. Yeah, we can't talk about
Starting point is 00:17:09 it, but it is a big deal and it's exciting. So yeah, are you nervous? Yeah. Um, you know what? I thought I would be, but I'm like, dude, I know this thing like backwards and forwards. And I'm just, I'm excited to just like put it in people's hands and let them try it out and give me feedback and Kind of feed off of that. You have your elevator pitch Yeah, dude. I got I got all day. Yeah, all day. I'm I'm just like I'm like overly confident to wear It's like I should probably calm down and just try and relax, you know what I mean? Yeah, you feel fired up. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I feel fired. That's the best feeling.
Starting point is 00:17:46 I've been waiting for this, dude. Like, this is the kind of shit that I live for. That is the best feeling when you, and it's such a difference when you're doing something, because I've experienced both. I don't know if you guys have done this, but I've experienced both where I'm gonna do, I'm about to do an event or do something that's important
Starting point is 00:18:02 or whatever, and I'm really nervous and stressed out about it it and I just perform shit because I feel horrible. And I've also been on the other end where I've walked into a situation and I'm literally like, if it was a battle, I'd be in the front running headfirst, ready to second.
Starting point is 00:18:19 Like the berserk. Take a short face. Like I've been in both situations, what a difference it makes in how effective you are. Have you guys ever experienced both of those? Yeah. Yeah, I can't think of how top of my head, but I'm sure I have for sure.
Starting point is 00:18:32 Yeah, I felt so, my two examples I can think of is my very first Jitsu tournament. I was so nervous, so I just was, I was an adult competing. I hadn't competed since I was a kid. I knew people that I, that were gonna watch me, were gonna be there and I didn't wanna lose in front of them. And I was just so nervous going into it
Starting point is 00:18:52 that I exhausted myself, even before the match started. And I was terrible, I performed terribly. And where you just, it's like I'm, like afterwards you're like, God, I totally suck, you know what I did. And then the other time I can think of where I went into something feeling like incredible, was the very first day I ran my first gym
Starting point is 00:19:10 as a 19 year old kid walking in, knowing that the staff was gonna meet their, you know, meet me for the first time. And I was gonna give my first all staff meeting. And I went in there like, like if like a fucking bad out of hell. Like I went in there like it was on. Yeah. And it was. Yeah. It was on. I gave that meeting and everybody was gaming with the hell. Like I went in there like it was on. And it was. It was on. I gave that meeting and everybody was gaming
Starting point is 00:19:28 with the energy. Oh, I just felt like, yeah. And that's how I feel right now for what, how you mean, Adam or about to do, I feel. I feel the same for you guys. I feel calm and aggressive at the same time. I think sports have always, or sports help train that in me, right?
Starting point is 00:19:42 I think that when you put the practice in, right? I think that, you know, when you, when you, when you put the practice in, right? When you practice and you practice at your craft, and then it comes game time, and you perform the best that you could perform, that's all you can ask for, right? Like you can't, I can't expect to win every time. You can't expect to beat the other guy. You have no idea how much they prepared,
Starting point is 00:20:02 or how much better they are than you. I think that you, you learn to be okay with whatever the outcome is as long as you perform it your best. And when you learn to focus on that, I think it really, it always unfolds nicely, right? Like it's, I feel like when I go into, like what we're about to go into, like Justin's about to go into,
Starting point is 00:20:23 it's like all the years, all the things that we've been doing, that's practice, you know, that's everything we've been doing is leading up to moments like this, you just gotta go do you, you know, go do you and do the best you you possibly can. And I think where most people, you know, get hung up is they get nervous and scared and that they're gonna screw up. And I think that, you know, at one point, I don nervous and scared and that they're going to screw up.
Starting point is 00:20:45 And I think that, you know, at one point, I don't remember where this happened in my life, but I stopped, I stopped worrying about that. Like I think, I think after you've had enough embarrassing moments in your life and you realize, well, that ain't that big of a deal. What you're seeing, yeah, I feel like this podcast itself has really helped to kind of, like, numb a lot of those feelings out for me, like, you know, whether I'm going to screw up or say something wrong or do it like I could just I could just sit here and talk, you know, and it's fine. Like I there's there's time enough for me to kind of work my way through it. And just like you said with the sports, have really kind of prepared
Starting point is 00:21:20 me for that as well. Like if I get too hyped, I know ahead of time, I feel my energies up too high to where I'm just gonna, I'm gonna come in too fast and I need to just kind of calm myself and get my heart rate down. So a lot of that depends on how I wake up, am I gonna come in. I feel like that's probably gonna be more of the cases. I'll probably be a little bit too hyped to where I'm just gonna, okay, dude, chill. Like, we're just having a conversation
Starting point is 00:21:48 and let's take it from there. You know what you need to do? You need to try my green pancakes. Is what you need to do. Okay, sir. Did you see those? What was the fun? Oh, you guys didn't see those?
Starting point is 00:21:57 I saw it. Oh yeah. I'll tell you, I'll tell you, we made some green waffles, but go ahead. Yeah, no. So what, what, so, I saw them on your story. So I made the, so I've been going, since we've signed with Organifi, I've been going through and trying out all their
Starting point is 00:22:11 different recipes, right? And I found these mint chocolate chip pancakes, fucking bog. What do you, would you use? It's hard to be anything. It's really like, it's, uh, and I, I have the recipes on their blog. So I'm probably going to screw it up, but I think it's four egg whites, one whole egg, coconut oil for
Starting point is 00:22:31 the pan, two scoops of the, uh, organified protein powder, and then two scoops of the green, the green juice. So wish that all up. Yeah, and then, oh, then like a handful of, I think we use like 15 or 20 dark chocolate chip pieces. And the first, we did the first batch, Katrina's like, well, let's not do chocolate chips, maybe it doesn't need chocolate chips. And I'm like, okay, let's just try it without it. And it was okay without it.
Starting point is 00:22:58 But because the green juice has that really good mint flavor. Oh, it goes with the chocolate. Yes. So then, so then the second batch we have the chocolate chips, I'm like, oh no, you have to put a couple of chocolate chips in there because then it makes these green mint pancakes with the chocolate chips and you only need a couple in there. You don't even need that many chocolate chips in there just enough that every other bite or so you get a little chocolate chip surprise.
Starting point is 00:23:19 Oh, I'm gonna have to try it, dude. We made some for my son, cause we usually sneak, like we blend up like spinach or kale or whatever and we try and mix it in with waffle batter because he just, he loves waffles and, you know, and he's like super carb head, you know, and so we're like, we're trying to like infuse like nutrients and there's as much as we can.
Starting point is 00:23:40 And so, yeah, so we did that with the organifi, the green juice and we used the powder and then also added in avocado and Like some flax seed Avocado inside a waffle bro really well. Yeah. Yeah, have you had a like that texture? Yeah, you have an auto club. Have you had a smoothie with avocado? Yeah, yeah, I mean it makes it so smooth Yeah, I need you to even use syrup. You didn't want syrup. Oh really yeah, just butter and and I was like oh, it makes it so smooth. Yeah. And he didn't even use syrup. He didn't want syrup. Oh really?
Starting point is 00:24:05 Yeah, just butter and, and I was like, oh, dude, it's awesome, because you just, you know, it was just, you know, sweet enough for him. So. I have yet to do any of these recipes. I want to try one of the lazy, bro. Well, you were making tomatoes all weekend. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:18 So that dude. You guys like that? You guys can down, huh? Yeah. So it's a, it's a, it's making some sauce. It is a family, it's not just a family tradition, it's a cultural thing, but we get together,
Starting point is 00:24:29 why are you hooking us up? And what, because you guys weren't there at helping. See, look at it, God, you have to help. Basically, just to get a jar of, just be a friend,
Starting point is 00:24:36 and get some sauce. You can eat over if you want, but every once a year, I have to be invited. Because once a year, we get together and we go by a shit ton of tomatoes, then we bring them over, and then there's this whole, like, I mean, Henry Ford would be proud. This is whole, like, assembly line. Where's all our hair nets? Where we wash the tomatoes. We cut the tomatoes.
Starting point is 00:25:00 We cook them a little bit, then we put them through this machine that spits out the seeds in the skin and it makes the sauce. Then we take the sauce and then we put them in the jars and you put, like my mom puts a basil leaf and some other stuff in there. We jar them, then we boil the jars, which seals them, and then we store them. So, and we used to do a lot more, by the way, but we did over 400 jars of sauce.
Starting point is 00:25:23 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's the whole year. So, and it's a salt. Yeah, so it's a huge production. It takes you guys two days to look like. When I was a kid, we used to do it at my grandma's house. And it was my grandparents house, and it was all of her kids, so all my aunts and uncles. Who has all the trees? The tomatoes? Oh, we go get them.
Starting point is 00:25:44 We go to, we used to go pick them. So we'd go to the fields and we find fields of tomatoes and we'd ask the farmers to let us pick them and then we'd pick them. What? They give them to you for free? No, no, no, no, we pay for them. But we get a really good price
Starting point is 00:25:58 because we go directly there and we'll pick them ourselves. Or now we don't necessarily pick them. Now we buy boxes of them. Okay. But back then it was obviously organic. Yeah, it was my uncle, my two aunts, my mom, and all of our kids, you know, all their kids, and all of our kids. So it was like 50 people at my grandma's house, and we would literally buy, I'm not exaggerating now, pick up trucks of tomatoes, full of tomatoes. And we drive them over and then everybody had a job.
Starting point is 00:26:28 So what the kids jobs were, the kids were the tomato washers. And what we would do is we'd have these huge like buckets, like those big like storage buckets or whatever. And we fill them up with water and we'd have like five of them. And we would transfer them into cleaner and cleaner water. So we'd wash them in this one, wash them in that one, move all the way down. And at the last one, then it was usually the man who would cut them and bring them into the garage and then the women were doing all the jarring and the smashing and whatever.
Starting point is 00:26:56 And then sometimes the kids would also push the tomatoes down into the machine to get the, it's this huge ordeal. The whole assembly line. But my favorite part of it is first off, fresh sauce. There's nothing like in the world. And my girlfriend loved it also, but she also made the observation that perhaps I have this connection to it. You know what I mean? Because I've been doing it since I was a child. Of course. So that may be why I have such I love it so much. But we'd make the fresh sauce and no joke,
Starting point is 00:27:22 like me and my dad will get a mug and we'll drink some sauce. Just drink some sauce. Drink some fucking sauce. You know what I remind you, I dated this girl, his Italian girl, that they did the same thing, but with olives. Yeah, that's all of that stuff. So some families get together and they'll draw olives together.
Starting point is 00:27:39 Yeah, it's like a huge thing. And the olives, you have to go through it. You have to do something to them, though, because you can't just pick wild olives and jar them up. You have to do something. There's a whole process. Yeah, there is. I forget what it was. We pick, I know somebody on our,
Starting point is 00:27:52 some smarty pants on the form will let me know. No, let us know. But then, so the cool thing is, what we used to do at my grandma's house is while we were doing all this, my grandma or someone would make fresh pasta. Have you guys ever had fresh pasta? No. I have yet yet to the different there's a big difference between fresh pasta and pasta by course So then my grandma would make fresh pasta so at the end of the sauce making thing we would have fresh pasta with fresh pasta sauce and it was
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Starting point is 00:29:45 A smart marketing. It's very smart marketing. And I would be willing to bet or debate that. They are. I don't know. I don't know. When you talk about well running, hands down, there's somebody who, the guy who won all of it right
Starting point is 00:30:05 Matt Frazier there's somebody who can out dead left him and out squat him 100% there's somebody who can out row him in the world 100% he's not the best that any one category but you know if your definition of fittest in the world is the ability to run maybe 14 miles then throw a softball and climb up a rope and then row across a, you know, throw a softball in here. No, not this year. But you know what I mean though, right? Like, you know, if you are, if we are going to do something, we've a basket.
Starting point is 00:30:36 We've got to give a haircut. You've got to do a Rubis cube. Real quick. Right. So I mean, the stuff they come up with is I mean you can't just be I can't imagine any other act like I can't imagine the most elite football player the most elite basketball player the most elite power lifter the most elite Olympic lifter the most elite gymnast. I can't imagine any of those right the top of their class coming to the games
Starting point is 00:30:59 and beating any of the CrossFit games guys and girls at this so-called sport. And it takes strength, it takes endurance and stamina. I don't know, I can't think of an athlete off the top of my head that I would say I think that couldn't take them. Although, let's be honest, again, it's specialized. That's why you can't, I mean, how can you say fittest in the world at what? They are definitely the fittest that the world at CrossFit. For sure, that's the CrossFit
Starting point is 00:31:33 games. But would they be the fittest that the world at CrossFit? Yeah, would they be the fittest that the world at, you know, arm wrestling, powerlifting, wrestling, business running, wrestling, I mean, no. It's a very smart tagline, it's a very smart marketing, but fittest, it's such a speculative thing, it's not objective, it's specific to what you're doing. It's like saying, I'm the healthiest man in the world, like healthiest at what, you had the least disease. I mean, what do you, you know, what do you talk about?
Starting point is 00:32:07 Now, I think it's, I feel phenomenal what they do. I think it's truly phenomenal. I think the caliber of athlete that they have now versus 10 years ago is light years. I mean, the people now are world class athletes. It wasn't like that 10 years ago. And what I mean by that is I are world class athletes. It wasn't like that, 10 years ago. And what I mean by that is I feel like they could get in a swim in a pool, run on a track, lift a barbell with some of the best.
Starting point is 00:32:36 Not the, I don't think they could beat the best in any of those single categories, right? Like if someone is a swimmer, like none of those guys are meeting Michael Phelps, none of them, right? None of them are going to outrun Usain Bolt. Do you think they would be even good enough to compete at the collegiate level at those individual events? I don't. No, no, I don't think even at that level. I know. I think about the average person. Yeah, I think what they've done very, very well is they're very good at competing at CrossFit, which is just a combination of different events, and it's not just a combination of events, but it's also being able to do them in succession
Starting point is 00:33:12 in a particular order. You know, it's definitely a very specialized skill. I mean, they have to train very specifically to be able to do what they do, but can I endure punishment? Yeah, you get this. Well, the follow up to the question is, you know, if not, then who is? And again, I think, well, I think that like if you're gonna,
Starting point is 00:33:30 if you're gonna say they're not, you can't say anybody else is, right? That's how I feel, right? If you can't say, they are a CrossFit. I don't see anybody beating them at CrossFit, for sure. But do I think they could be like a de-cathlete at the de-cathalon? No, and that's a lot of different events too, right?
Starting point is 00:33:45 Do I think they could be ninja warriors? Yeah, competing at that kind of stuff. I don't think so. Yeah, baby, not, but I'll tell you what though, it's fascinating to watch the growth of the sport of CrossFit. It's loved you, it's amazing. It was, I mean, a lot of people was was televised,
Starting point is 00:33:59 and was a lot of people watched this. It's brilliant. Oh, it's been a good experience. Ever since they signed with Reebok, it's been insane, man. And they did a little throwback to Aromas, where this all started, which we have a Katrina's family has a house up in Aromas. So it's not far from where she's at to where all this started. They actually threw in some, the show, the most recent video or whatever, showed a bunch
Starting point is 00:34:22 of clips of like some of the original parking lot, like I was saying before, I told you it was. Orcals, yeah, yeah. It's competitions or whatever showed a bunch of clips of like some of the original parking lot like I was saying before I told you. Or else, yeah, it's competitions or whatever. Yeah, it's crazy. I mean, and I watched the way that they prep this. It makes me chuckle like how they put together. It's like literally, it's like what is going to destroy these guys and girls? Yeah, that's the thought. I just can see people.
Starting point is 00:34:41 That's the thought recognizing it. It is. It's like fucking kill off. Okay, like they just did this this one Almost it's a seven K run and then you come back and then you do what they call Jacob's ladder So it's like a a progression of deadlifts like starting it like 300 350 400 for now with the power cleans like they had to clean Like a had to clean it. No, no. Like a ladder of clean.
Starting point is 00:35:06 It's like, fuck me. It is brutal. And then they have to go up and wait like five pound increment or ten pound increments. Of all the sports that involve a barbell, you know, like all the strength sports, I guess you could say, CrossFit by far is the most spectator friendly. It just is.
Starting point is 00:35:24 They look the best. Like Olympic lifters don't always look good. Power lifters definitely don't always look good. It is more exciting. It's exciting. That's why it's kicking ass, dude. And they look good and the women compete in sports bras and the dudes take their shirt off.
Starting point is 00:35:38 And they're all, they all look like fucking. They're all ripped. They all look incredible. What I really appreciate about CrossFit, more than anything is the way it shows that women can be very strong and athletic, and it's changed the perception of what fit women should look like.
Starting point is 00:35:55 It's done it single-handedly, better than any other sport I can think of, because these women are muscular. Well, what I'm really interested to see is because it hasn't been around very long is what happens with a lot of these athletes 10 years down the road. Are we going to see similar things like we see with NFL football players and things like that? I think because people like speak of them as the fittest in the world. And to me, if I'm going to categorize somebody as the fittest in the world, I'm me, if I'm going to categorize somebody as the fittest in the world, I'm thinking of somebody who's been fit for a very long time and maintained health and longevity.
Starting point is 00:36:29 Right. It's too extreme for that. Exactly. It's the way you can't possibly maintain this type of training your entire life. So I wonder if you're going to get a lot of people burnt out after five years, eight years, 10 years of competing at the sport, just like you see NFL players and people that play these sports that are really, really tough on the body day in and day out. So that and and wondering if those people crash because they don't have another speed,
Starting point is 00:36:58 right, they train themselves for the last 10 years, which is what we all know as trainers, right. So this is what I see wrong with it still. And this is the the fear that I have for the average Jane or Joe that just want to get in and actually do CrossFit is going in with this man, this idea that, okay, this is going to be the way I keep myself in shape going for it because I like it so much, right? Like, oh, I love CrossFit, I love doing it, I love the community, it's a life, like what they say, it's a lifestyle, it's a lifestyle,
Starting point is 00:37:25 it's all these things, right? And they sell you on this idea that it's a great way to exercise and train and it really is not, it's an incredible sport, it's a fucking awesome sport, it's really cool to watch. And I think a lot of people are signing up to it, thinking that it's a great way to get in shape and it's really not, you're actually teaching yourself
Starting point is 00:37:43 really bad habits to get in shape because training at that level, at that high intensity, your body's an adaptation machine. It will eventually get adapted to training this intense and this hard and then where do you go from there? How long can you maintain that? Well, you'll end up seeing is similar to what you see with physique bodybuilder and bikini competitors who compete over and over again is you see this burnout where you know They call it the you know HPA dysfunction, you know with hormone dysfunction or desensitization to
Starting point is 00:38:16 The stress or you know hormone cortisol to where all of a sudden they're feeling always fatigued always inflamed I used to be able to get so lean and now I can't, my body doesn't seem to respond the way it used to. I don't recover like I used to, and you kinda get down this horrible cycle, this horrible path, where the only way to reverse out of it is their worst nightmare, which is you have to do nothing now for three months.
Starting point is 00:38:42 Like you have to let your body rest, recover, allow your receptors of some of these stress hormones to up-regulate, allow your body to balance itself out. And you imagine telling, I know, because I've had to work with people like this, where you tell them, well, here's what you're gonna have to do. We're gonna have to spend the next year taking it easy. Like, that's like a nightmare for these people.
Starting point is 00:39:02 They can't imagine having to do that. Well, especially if they've put on some weight and they've fallen on a shape. And they're gonna have to even more. And when they connect being in the best shape in their lives, which is the same thing that happens when we get athletes, right? So when I get a retired NFL, NBA pro athlete, 20 years down the road, they're in their late 40s, early 50s, and they're, they've put on a bunch of fat
Starting point is 00:39:27 and they want to get in shape. They are the hardest fucking clients to talk to because they cannot get out of their sport mentality. They just, they all, they want to crush the weights and they, they only know, you know, balls to the wall type of training. And it is so hard to teach them. And even with diet, all they know is, it's hardcore dieting. Hardcore dieting or eating a shit ton of food, because that's what I did when I was swimming in college. And you know, it was not a problem.
Starting point is 00:39:57 It's a very difficult position to be in. But there's definitely, we know we've talked to people who are influencer, influencers in CrossFit. And there's definitely, we know we've talked to people who are influencers and crossfit, and there's definitely a shift going on where people are being smarter about the training. It's just when you see the games and you're the average person you think, I wanna work out so I can be like these people,
Starting point is 00:40:16 that is not a way to be healthy and fit long-term. Not only that, but very few people can even do it anyway. So, not the average person. It's like, you know what gets on my nerves? These like couch to, you know, couch to marathon, you know, do our thing, and we'll take you from the couch to be able to complete a marathon, or like, what are you doing to your body? Just because you can, doesn't mean you should.
Starting point is 00:40:37 Right, right. And it doesn't always end up the way you want. I was actually at a baby shower over the weekend, and I ran into Buddy who I hadn't seen in a long time. And he's like, oh man, it was upside down. He goes, hey, I just started signed up at this CrossFit gym up by where I live. He lives up in San Francisco.
Starting point is 00:40:55 And so I'm asking him how's it going or whatever, and he goes, you know, he goes, I can't do more than once or twice a week. And I said, why? I thought he was talking about a schedule. And he's like, I just, I don't want to. I hurt so bad and I can't move. And he goes, I just feel terrible for two days.
Starting point is 00:41:10 He goes, but I'm going to give myself some time and then maybe I'll be able to bring it up. And I told him, I said, okay, I said, that's not a good sign that you're not able to do anything. You should be able to do something almost every day and you're over playing intensity. And he's like, well, I'm going really light. So, well, you're not going light enough.
Starting point is 00:41:26 You're not going easy enough. It's obviously too much for your body. And I was trying, I was explaining to him what's happening with his body, but it's very difficult to talk to people about this because they have this, because I could already see it in his face like, oh, I can handle it.
Starting point is 00:41:41 Like, I'm just gonna go, we're always gonna fight this. Yeah, you know what I mean? And I think that this is always gonna exist, you know, whether it's CrossFit or some other form. People always seem to have this memory of when they used to be young and they played sports and that was the best shape of their life. And so they try and replicate that
Starting point is 00:42:03 and what they did in their training, what they did every single day. And it was like super super like rigorous and high-intense and like I used to be able to bench this much. So then they try and do that. And then they you know, they tear their bicep and they tear their peck. And you know, and it's just like it's this operating system that's it's hardwired into these people. And it's a tough thing to kick, man. But that's why we're here. We're just trying to help you kind of kick that mentality out
Starting point is 00:42:32 because it's not effective long-term. We just had somebody on the forum that posted that, and I believe it said, I know a lot of people on here don't like CrossFit, but I'm really considering trying it out and doing it this and that. And I wrote under there like, go for it. Do it. And I know sour wrote under there like do it with the man with the idea that it's a sport, right? And here's the thing like I think that I would never tell somebody who said like, Hey, I think I'm not going to play basketball. And I would never tell you don't do it. Like who
Starting point is 00:43:04 am I to tell you don't go play ball? Like, if you want to go play basketball, go play basketball. Just understand it's fucking basketball. You know what? It's all about training for basketball. Right. And that's like the training for CrossFit. Like, there needs to be training for it. Not CrossFit is not the training.
Starting point is 00:43:19 No, it's all about the mentality. I'll give you an example. Okay. So running is a perfect example of this. Because everybody says, I want to lose weight, I'm going to go run. This is very common with the average person. Two reasons why. One, it's easy, because you could just go run. Easy in the sense that it's an easy, like, simple, right? Oh, I just go outside and run. No big deal. Yeah. And two, because initially you'll see results, because you're burning calories. Nobody goes out and says to themselves, I'm gonna learn how to run,
Starting point is 00:43:46 and I'm gonna learn how to run well. It's all about, I'm gonna run till fatigue. That's the only metric people use when they run. And this supply running is the number one cause of injury in people, of all athletic endeavors. Nothing causes more problems and more issues in people than running, and it's not because necessarily running is bad. It's because people are approaching running with the mentality
Starting point is 00:44:08 that they're gonna run to fatigue. That's the metric. It's not about running well. We're gonna ignore all the feedback that your body's giving you. In fact, you're just gonna try and get through it. Well, they're supposed to ignore it. That's what they're telling themselves.
Starting point is 00:44:21 I'm running to fatigue. So I, it's a battle of attrition, I'm ignoring all these things. So if I go to play basketball with that same mentality, I'm gonna go play basketball to fatigue, I'm not gonna learn how to shoot well, I'm not gonna learn how to dribble well, I'm not gonna learn good technique and movement,
Starting point is 00:44:39 I'm not gonna learn basketball rules, I'm just gonna go play basketball till I can fucking not move anymore. How well do you think I'm gonna play basketball? And how, how, how higher my odds of getting injured? Crossfit is the same thing. If you approach Crossfit like a sport, it can be a fantastic workout.
Starting point is 00:44:55 It can be an amazing workout. But if you approach it with the sport mentality, like I need to learn how to do Crossfit well, you will not go in with the fatigue mentality, which is like I said, with running, where you're going in and you're in your metric for your workout is endure, endure, and pain, and pain, and then you cause problems. That's all it is. And it's honest to God. If you go into it thinking, I'm going to go sign up for CrossFit. I'm going to try this, I'm going to go to CrossFit box and do these workouts, and I'm going
Starting point is 00:45:23 to learn CrossFit as well as I can. We'll start with running. You'll be well. Because, oh my God, there's so many variables in CrossFit that are so many skills that you need to master going into that good luck. It'll take you a while. Well, shall you?
Starting point is 00:45:35 But that's okay. You drew the parallel with bodybuilding, which was the same thing that when I got into competing, I trained for a year of getting myself ready before I ever even considered getting on stage. And a lot of that getting ready was sculpting a physique, dialing in a diet, understanding, because you're trying to peek for a show.
Starting point is 00:45:58 There's the sport of it is you have to get to this extremely low, unhealthy body fat percentage and then present yourself on stage on a certain time, on a certain date, right? So there's definitely a strategy to that and it wasn't like I just signed myself up and said, hey, I'm gonna go do this. I'm entering in a world, I know,
Starting point is 00:46:18 and that's an area where I think I'm pretty well versed in nutrition, I'm pretty well versed in program design. And I still took the time to train that way. It's the same, it's the same in time. Any extreme endeavor can bring out the worst in you, but it can also bring out the best. I mean, we were just last week, we were meeting with another bikini competitor.
Starting point is 00:46:38 And I'm hearing her talk about how, before her competition, I could barely walk 10 feet before I had to sit down. I felt terrible, it was so horrible, but she's saying it with a smile as if it's this thing to brag about. But I showed up with 2% body fat and I'll shred it. And there's a good part to that in the sense that
Starting point is 00:46:55 you're testing yourself and you're learning what you're made of. And everything else becomes easy afterwards. But there's also this potential bad part where you're doing damage to your body. And you can potentially develop this horrible relationship with activity or diet or whatever. This can happen with CrossFit, this is going to happen with Marathon Running, this can happen with anything that is pushing you to this extreme level. If you go into it with the right mentality, you'll succeed and you'll be okay in life.
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Starting point is 00:48:01 Next up is Aristotle Daffness. If you could only take three or fewer supplements, what would they be? It's probably be different for all of us, right? Why can we are for you? Well, for sure, for me, it's vitamin D, protein, and creatine. Yeah, so one of those, for sure,
Starting point is 00:48:18 that's different as your vitamin D, because you've noticed a deficiency. A benefit with psoriasis. Has it been pretty traumatic? I wouldn't say traumatic, but it's a, you know, there's definitely stuff that I've, I've put together with the, with the diet and my psoriasis. So, when I'm staying away from any sort of gluten,
Starting point is 00:48:38 so breads, pasta, stuff like that, I notice that it does suppress it. I do know when I'm getting a good amount of vitamin D, whether it be naturally through the sun or I'm supplementing it, it also suppresses it. And it's kind of funny, they each, it'll never go away. Like with psoriasis, it doesn't get eliminated, right?
Starting point is 00:48:55 It's not eczema can go away. Psoriasis is forever with you. You know, that's what they say. Yeah, you're right, you're right. And maybe we, I mean, I would love for them to prove the other way, but as of now, they believe that psoriasis is not curable, that it's something that once you have it, you have it. I think they say that because there's a lot of things that we can't solve with Western
Starting point is 00:49:16 medicine and the odds are very poor, so they'll say it's not curable. But there are cases of spontaneous remission of some of the most insane shit like there's cases of people with Stage four, you know, pancreatic cancer with you know, they're like, oh, you're not gonna make it for you know Maybe two months two months left and then something happens and it's gone There's actually cases of the not they're definitely not common. They're very rare So it's very interesting to me You know when I when I hear doctors say that, you know, I mean, I think they're just setting people up like, okay, don't get your hopes up.
Starting point is 00:49:48 But I would probably go with those or arguably now, it's pretty funny. Ever since we've been, I've been using the green juice, I actually feel really good. Just because it's hard for me to get my vegetables in every single day. So what do you notice from the green juice? Because I just started just overall, I've never used the green just overall energy. New year really. Yeah, just overall energy. I just feel good.
Starting point is 00:50:09 Like I tend to, you know, I'm pretty normal. I think where I have these, these dips of energy when throughout the day. And it's normally when I'm not consuming enough or getting enough nutrients, I'll feel kind of weak and tired. It keeps me pretty vibrant and consistent throughout the day. Interesting. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:27 Do you notice any changes to your like gut health when you take it? No, I mean, like you, I don't have a lot of gut issues. So I don't, I don't notice like my, my stool is pretty consistent. I don't, I don't have any major stomach issues that bother me, digestive, like stuff. Like that's definitely your wheel. Cause I've been taking the, I've been messing with the green drink and that's, I'm not normally a fan of that kind of stuff. I really don't, I'm not a, don't ever supplement with that kind of stuff. But I started using it and I think I'm noticing some beneficial,
Starting point is 00:50:56 some benefits to my gut health. So I wonder if I'm feeding the right bacteria. I got to talk to Dr. Ruscio and see what he says about that. For me, it's going to be, one of them's going to be specific, which is a probiotic. I just can't do without a good quality probiotic at the moment. I can go off of it for a little while, but then I need to reintroduce it. And it's just your, you know, basic lactobacillus, bifidotip, you know, bacteria. The organophy one is great. I've used that one now and I like it. The one I've used before was ultimate flora,
Starting point is 00:51:34 which is another brand that's really good. But if I take those semi-regularly, I get good. I feel good. My gut is healthy, I feel good, my digestion is good. The second supplement that I think I would use is creatine. Not that I use it all the time consistently, but because creatine is one of the only ones
Starting point is 00:51:58 that I notice a benefit from in terms of my training, I can tell if I'm off of it or if I'm on it, I can see that I'm stronger. And there are some studies now showing that there may be some long-term health benefits to taking creatine, although I'm not going to quite make that claim yet. But there are a couple studies that say, it's good for the heart, and it may be good for brain health
Starting point is 00:52:21 long-term. And then third supplement, that's a tough one. Probably a protein powder. I don't use a protein powder very regularly, but if I do make a smoothie or I do blend something, I've done it with coffee, which is actually pretty good. We're all blend the protein with coffee and then throw some coconut oil in there. And that's really fucking delicious before I work out. That's pretty much it, but the probiotic for me is the one that if I had to take just one, that one would be the one I wouldn't wanna give up.
Starting point is 00:52:53 Yeah, pretty similar for me. A creatine has always been one that I come back to back and forth with, and then like you said, the probiotic is something I tend to use more, just every now and then when I feel like my gut needs, you know, need some, you know, good influential bacteria in there. And so for that, I also like, Ashtal Gonda, you kind of got me onto that. Have you been taking it? Yeah, I do think what do you feel on it? I feel great. Yeah, I also like Ashawaganda you kind of got me onto that. Have you been drinking it? Yeah, how do you think? How do you feel on it? I feel great. Yeah, I feel like
Starting point is 00:53:30 I've been using it more to like kind of deal with because as of late like with my wife as well I've been really kind of stressed out and overly you know Dealing with that and so It's been it seems to be helping with that somewhat. So, and I noticed, you know, in the green juice that's in there as well. So we started kind of, I just started trying that over the weekend, really like it. So I'm going to, I'm going to dive into that a bit further. But yeah, pretty much those three, like protein powder for me, pretty inconsistently I'll use.
Starting point is 00:54:08 power for me, pretty inconsistently I'll use. But when I do train, when I get on my intense sort of training protocol, which, you know, I tend to un-delay that's something that will show up quite a bit. Yeah, for me, mainly, I have a lot of supplements at home, but I use them all depending on... Right, that's why it was hard to pick like three, because I'm like, I don't really take anything around a couple of different things. Yeah, like I said, the probiotics, the one that I have, I probably take the most consistent.
Starting point is 00:54:32 I use protein the most consistent. Only for that, that... How many days a week would you say you use protein powder? Four. Okay. Yeah, four at least. Yeah, that's pretty consistent. Yeah, I would say at least, at least a four on a normal week as high as every day.
Starting point is 00:54:46 So I have a question for you, because you've always used way. You've always used way for the hell. And now I'm using P pro. Now using the plan, well, it's got more than that. It's got other, it's got a blend, but it's a vegan protein. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:54:58 There's no dairy, no animal. Is there a, do you notice any difference at all in how you feel between the two? I've, I've gone through one jug so far and so far I love it. I haven't gone back to way and I actually just bought some way to make that comparison. So I'd like to see that you, it's funny that you asked that because I felt great and I'm for sure. I'm somebody who does not like to like speculate on like supplements and be like Oh, yeah, it makes me feel this way for sure until I really start to like compare and contrast like go back and forth right and so and I've been
Starting point is 00:55:33 Consistent and tracking I'm on everything right now. So this is a time for me to do this. I've gone through a jug and a half now of the Organifi stuff really really love it I Believe I do feel better on it. I do believe that when I'm on the way that I hold water from it, it seems like I'm, or I get a little...
Starting point is 00:55:53 It's still organic, right? You're still doing the organic way, what naturally comes out. No, no, no, this is like, this is like my old like optimum nutrition way. Oh. So that's what I want to compare to. Because I would also like to see.
Starting point is 00:56:02 Because that was my favorite brand. For years, I used OptumnutritionWay. And I want to just compare and see how I feel. And so I have both of them now. And I was just about to start kind of playing with that. I wanted to finish this next jug, and then I'm going to implement it into that. Because I'd like to see you,
Starting point is 00:56:20 since you, because I can't have way. So it's not like I can, I can, I know the difference, because I know if I drink way I'll shit myself. But if you did, I'd like to see you do way that's organic and not artificially flavored and compare that to the plant protein, because then you could isolate, oh, it's the way, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:56:36 Because maybe it's the sucralose, because I know optimum nutrition uses sucralose to, yeah, to flavor their stuff. And sucralose is not good for your gut flora, for sure. We know that it kills like 50% of the beneficial bacteria in particular. So it'd be interesting to see if you did organic, not artificially flavored way.
Starting point is 00:56:54 Because there's no problem with way. There's not an issue. Way not to say a good thing. I have some whole foods way that I could use. But I wanted to do opton nutrition because I did it for so many years. I just want to see. I want to see if I was use, but I wanted to do opton in Trishin because I did it for so many years. I just want to see. I want to see like if I was, if I like what I've done to
Starting point is 00:57:09 I do like that's just kind of how my brain works, right? I know that probably the route that you're thinking would probably be better for me trying to narrow down is it the way that's making me feel that way or not where I'm more concerned how much I was fucking myself up by taking that because I used to live off of those. I mean, I was going through that big 73 serving jug easily every month and some.
Starting point is 00:57:31 So I, so I, which gives you wisdom, I tell you, I tell you, I'm doing two shakes. So my cousins a long time ago, they don't have a daring intolerance necessarily, but they do the way protein. And they were joking about how they'd get the protein farts, which is, this is super common in our world. People will talk about all the time.
Starting point is 00:57:47 I'm like, oh, I just had a shake, and that's why my farts smell, right? Not realizing that's probably a bad sign. So my cousin was, we're actually hanging out, and he farted and it fucking cleared the room, and I was making fun of him. He's like, oh, it's just because I had a protein shake. And so I'm like, dude, you should try a plant-based one.
Starting point is 00:58:02 This was before we worked with Organified. I remember the brand, we went through, it might have been warrior, I'm not sure. you should try a plant-based one. This was before we worked with Organifi. I don't remember the brand, we went through, it might have been warrior, I'm not sure. But he switched to a plant-based one and he never had a problem again with the protein parts. So I'm interested to see if there's a difference because dairy in general is a super common intolerance for people, not for everybody,
Starting point is 00:58:20 it's just one of the one of the top ones. So I'd be interested to see if what happens at a most of the protein parts. Oh I'd be interested to see if what happens at the most protein parts. Oh, really back. Dude. Next up is Jessica May 1231. How did you guys build confidence? Loaded.
Starting point is 00:58:36 Like in general. Loaded. Loaded. Loaded. That's a, how about this? Can you guys remember when you were the most like, unconfident? Like, when were you the most self-conscious?
Starting point is 00:58:48 You know, probably, like, junior high. Probably, right? Or you're feeling just like, oh my God, just, yeah. Cause, well, cause so many things are happening then, you know? You're just like, your voice has changed. No, no, no, no. You're trying to talk to girls and, oh man. It was scary.
Starting point is 00:59:04 You know what, this kind of reminds me of, and this could be touching the third rail, but here with the whole bullying topic, right? Oh, okay. I definitely was picked on as a kid. I mean, I had crooked teeth, that was a four kid. So I had like knock off clothes. Like, you can beat up or just pick that one. No, I've been I've been I was jumped as a kid when I was I was a guy
Starting point is 00:59:29 I was he with fifth grade fifth grade. I got I got beat up by older older classmen me and a friend of mine We were jumped in the classroom So I was definitely bullied bullied enough to where my dad to come around the school and bullied enough to wear in eighth grade I was pulled out and homeschooled for a year So I definitely had thrown in a dumpster, all that should happen to me. So I gave, right, that counts as like real legitimate. That's bad, dude. Right, right. So, and, you know, I, yeah, so I went through all of that and, you know, what? Like, I built a lot of character in me, man. It made me it definitely I
Starting point is 01:00:11 Think it was tough as a kid. I remember going through it enough to wear like I remember getting in fights all the time When I was in eighth grade and I remember telling my mom like I don't want to go to school here anymore And I didn't have and she was like well is either homeschool or go to school there and I said okay We'll take me out. I want a homeschool. I fucking hate these kids and so I remember I remember that will take me out, I want to homeschool, I fucking hate these kids. And so I remember that. But I also remember too, like it, it definitely built some thick skin on me. And as I got older, I realized like that, like these kids were the reason why they were picking on me, the reason why these people were attacking me was their own insecurities and their own issues.
Starting point is 01:00:45 And once I, once I, how long did I take you to realize that? I don't, I'm trying to remember right now as we're talking about this, like if there was a moment that that happened. Because while that's happening, it's, I mean, I experienced not to that extent, but I experienced similar, it's, when you're going through, it's terrible.
Starting point is 01:01:01 Yeah, right, yeah, when I was going through it, it was awful and a cried and all that stuff happened, right? But at one point, I had put that together and I definitely, I wish I could say that was my mom and my dad that told me that and said that and then it sunk in, but it wasn't that. It was something else. When it did and I realized that it really, like for the rest of my life going forward, it was like, oh my
Starting point is 01:01:25 God, this is all like I then I could see also I could see through everything like people I would be in circles and I would hear someone like calling someone name and I and like inside I'd be like, oh my God, like that kid so insecure about his own issues that he's got to make fun of that kid's shoes, but that's really because he's insecure. It's not because that kid's a dork for wearing those shoes. It's because that kid's got more issues going on time. And once I started to realize that, it built confidence in me. And then I began to own who I was
Starting point is 01:01:54 and that I was different, that I addressed different, that fuck it that I had crooked teeth, fuck it that I had a car that was all fucked up and had to drive to school. I started to build this confidence of, you know what, it's who I am. It's who I am and I'm proud of who I am and I'm not gonna change myself for anybody else.
Starting point is 01:02:13 And I really blossomed into that confident kid in high school. So it wasn't until high school. So I got bullied all through elementary in junior high school. And there was things that led up to that. Like I remember in junior high, part of why I got bullied was, I moved to Colorado,
Starting point is 01:02:30 and I was, so I was darker than when I am now. So I was like right now, I'm like super light. When I was a younger kid, I was in the sun all the time. So I was dark-complexed. So I looked more Hispanic when I was younger. So, and then I moved to a school Colorado where all white kids. And so, I was teased, and I was, you know, all kinds of racial slurs and picked on and fights and all that stuff like that.
Starting point is 01:02:52 And I also was a really good basketball player. And the most popular kid in school was the point guard, and I took his starting position. So, imagine this kid comes in on the new kid. I take his starting position. He's the most popular kid. So he made my life miserable on campus. So, you know, in basketball court was my only outlet. Like playing ball was my only out. In fact, I played the season before.
Starting point is 01:03:14 Give him a shout out, you fucking loser. Eat a dick. So, but I was aggressive. But, you know, I see people and it reminds me of, you know, I remember when and it reminds me of, you know, I remember when Lane was on the show and he shared like his bully story, right? And some people never grow out of it.
Starting point is 01:03:30 Like they get bullied and they forever have this shit. Traumatizing. Right, it was so traumatizing for someone like him. I could see the chip that he carries on his shoulder even as a grown-ass man. If you carry it with you as an adult, they're still bullying you. Right. I remember reaching that point, understanding that, right?
Starting point is 01:03:43 Right, right. I agree. It's like you're still giving your power away. And I think that point, understanding that. Right. Right. I agree. It's like you're still giving your power away. And I think that's where part of this confidence building comes from is you realize that when you're insecure, when you're fearful, when you allow those people to make you feel that way, you're giving your power away. And the best way that you can gain power and gain confidence is to just not allow it
Starting point is 01:04:02 to affect you. And one of the best ways that I learned to do that was to realize that those people that were doing those things that were making me feel insecure or making me that way, they had the biggest issues out of all of them. And then I started to feel sorry for those people. Then I realized like, oh, this poor loser.
Starting point is 01:04:20 I'm sad because I have fucking crooked teeth. This kid literally like his parents, like don't love him. Like, literally, and I'm like I started to put that stuff together and that built a lot of confidence and then come high school time, like I was me, man, I like, I was totally confident in who I was and I remember like I said, I've been having like I didn't, I had brain,
Starting point is 01:04:43 I didn't get my braces until I was out of high school. And my front two teeth were literally like turned in. I was skinny as rails, I was over six foot tall and weighed like 150 pounds. But I did it the hottest girl in school. And I did because I was outgoing and confident and talked to everybody and was friends with everybody. And like, I never let anybody like get to me like that.
Starting point is 01:05:05 So I had like very, very similar story to you. But like it, I was picked on, but I was like, like for me, it was more about facing my fears, which led me to become more confident. And mainly like, I just, I didn't like conflict. I didn't like conflict. I don't like, you know, when people like did me wrong or and so I would like fight that internally.
Starting point is 01:05:31 Like should I do something about this? Should not do something about this. Should I do something about this? And this sort of like internal battle would go on all the time for me and like, I kind of had to work my way because I didn't really necessarily get picked on like like, you know, just beat down or anything but like I would face all these like Opportunities to fight and I would I would pull back and I would feel like no no no I'm being a coward and and so then I would take
Starting point is 01:05:57 Opportunities were okay. Let's let's do this and then you know I get my ass whooped and and then I would go back and regroup and try and better myself, and I would go back again, I'd challenge some bully. So I would usually go out and find people that were punking other people, and I would challenge them. And so this is like a continuous process of me growing up because I saw bully's pick on my brother.
Starting point is 01:06:24 He's two years older than me, like all the time. And it used to fucking just drive me crazy. And so I was like working my way up the ladder into where like finally, like I, like this guy was like punking my brother. And I was just like, hey, you know, and we got into it. And, you know, and I just was like, no no like I'm not waiting for this person to throw you know first or this to happen or this scenario in my head to go off I'm just going for it and I went for it and then you know and I got him pretty good and the game of bloody nose and all that
Starting point is 01:06:56 stuff and I was just like yeah you know and you know and then after that I started to kind of bully people and I and I realized that about myself because I got this crazy confidence that I could overpower somebody. And I started getting stronger. And I started doing that. I was probably like maybe just seventh grade and like sixth grade seventh grade.
Starting point is 01:07:20 I was starting to bully other kids a little bit. And I kind of realized and I felt like gross. You know, I started to do that and I wouldn't feel right about it. And I checked myself on that and then just kind of started to like turn myself more onto sports and like I realized I was really good at sports and that was my outlet and I could outlet like all my aggression could go into that direction, because I had a lot of aggression.
Starting point is 01:07:47 And that, like, kept building once I got into, you know, when I was going through, like, all these hormonal changes and puberty and all that kind of stuff, like, I had this, like, rage that just, like, came over me. And so, I got into football and that was it, man. That was my place, my outlet. And I, I, I would like dominated in that space
Starting point is 01:08:08 because this was where I could, I could leave it there and it was a sport and then I could come back and everybody like shook hands hug, all that stuff. And it was fine. And I didn't bring that onto any other kids or anything. Do you attribute a lot of the football to your confidence, like being good on the football field and being able to do that?
Starting point is 01:08:26 Did you feel like that transferred over into? Absolutely, yeah. Lots of my, well, accolades, you know, from football, basketball, somewhat, and baseball. I was just like a natural athlete. And, you know, and I did do well in school, but at the same time, my brother like excelled. So that was always something that like, you know, and I I did do well in school, but at the same time my brother like excelled So that was always something that like you know, I was always like frustrated with you know because like he he just it came so easy for him
Starting point is 01:08:52 And it was so hard for me. I had to really you know buckle down and try so anyway This was like a perpetual thing for me to gain confidence. So I wasn't confident You know academically or I wasn't confident speaking in front of people. So I had to immerse myself into that and then it's been this progression in life where I gained new confidence by immersing myself into something that I suck at. So that's been the thing. Yeah, I wasn't always confident, but I was always assertive. I was always very assertive.
Starting point is 01:09:24 So although I lacked confidence in certain situations growing, but I was always assertive. I was always very assertive. So although I lacked confidence in certain situations growing up, I've always had a big mouth and not always the best combination. You know, because it got me in trouble quite a few times. So like, I would get bullied too, but I wouldn't allow myself to get bullied because I have to say something.
Starting point is 01:09:46 So I was that kid that would get hit and then the bully would be like, you know, stay down and I'd get up. Or he'd be like, don't say anything. I'd be like, fuck you and he'd hit me and it'd be like, fuck you and hit me. And everybody'd be like, just stop saying that. He'd beat you up.
Starting point is 01:10:01 And I would just, yeah. And I would just keep like, keep saying, you up. And I would just... Senior on, man. And I would just keep saying what I want to say because I couldn't not say anything. I had an experience in junior high like that where I got jumped and I actually got jumped and then they would try to jump me again and I got away. And I realized that the only way I would stop this was I had to figure out a way to fight the dude
Starting point is 01:10:27 that was running this whole thing in front of everybody. And so I literally had to walk up to him and his little gang and in front of the school make a big production and challenge him to a one-on-one fight because I knew he wouldn't be able to turn that down in front of everybody and he wouldn't be able to jump me because I said one-on-one. And that was fucking terrifying. It was terrifying to not only have to go up to these dudes that jumped me already twice,
Starting point is 01:10:54 but then to have to tell him, I'm going to fight you one-on-one, which I didn't want to do. I don't want to get to fight with him. Which by the way is how you can tell this is a true story because that literally was like what you would say back then. Yeah. We're going to do this one-on-one that literally was like what you would say back then. We're gonna do this one on one. Yeah, one on one. Nobody else, your friends can't believe it.
Starting point is 01:11:09 And I did, I went up to him and fronted everybody and I first I told a bunch of people I would do it because I wanted a lot of witnesses so I wanted to make sure they didn't jump me. And then I went over there and it was terrifying. Like I had to fucking do that. And then I had to fight them afterwards, which I did. And it did stop the whole thing.
Starting point is 01:11:27 Because I think they realized I was just to pain in the ass. Like we're gonna keep fucking with this kid. And he's just gonna be a pain in the ass. Because my next step was gonna be, I was gonna bring like a bat to school and go create like, and I can see now how kids like escalate shit because you know, it's like you have, like you almost create this scenario in your head
Starting point is 01:11:44 where you have no other option. So my only option would have been like, well, now I'm gonna take a back to school and start hitting people with it or so it's a terrible, but I've always been very assertive. A lot of my confidence initially came from being the oldest of four. And as a child, I was given a lot of responsibility.
Starting point is 01:12:02 I was told, my mom used to say things like, you know, you and your siblings are like a train and you're the head caboose. And whichever direction you go, the other, you know, the other, you know, cabooses are whatever are gonna follow. So if you turn left, they're all gonna go left. If you go right, they're all gonna go right.
Starting point is 01:12:17 I love the mode of the thing that's in the front. Maybe. So I had all this, so I had all this, this like responsibility and pressure. I have to do the right thing because otherwise my siblings are gonna copy me and do the same thing. So I had all this responsiveness.
Starting point is 01:12:32 I had lots of confidence there. Then in school, I built confidence in high school because I just... I probably got really good grades. I got good grades on accident. I didn't try. I just did it was really boring. But I just, you know, I just kind of just did my thing.
Starting point is 01:12:49 I was just me and that right there translates I guess into confidence, especially when you're in school. When you're the kid in high school who does his own thing and doesn't care, it's kind of weird because nobody does that, right? Nobody is at a high school. Everybody wants to be the same. It's not like college or when you're older
Starting point is 01:13:04 where you're unique. I was having this conversation with a friend of mine where he was telling me how he played an instrument. And I was laughing because I'm like, you know what's funny, you play the piano, that's exactly what would have made you a fucking nerd in junior high in high school. It's exactly what it got in your late as you got older.
Starting point is 01:13:18 You know what I was saying? And it's just, I just was myself. And then when I went into the gyms and started working in gyms and managing gyms, I was extremely assertive and just very confident in my ability to lead because I had done this with my siblings. And as an adult, it's just confidence is not cocky.
Starting point is 01:13:41 Confidence is not outward. You don't think to yourself. It's self-belief. Yeah, you don't think to yourself. It's self-belief. Yeah, you don't think to yourself, I'm confident. Like, you don't walk in and be like, I'm confident. That's not how it works. Real confidence is very calm. And you know, when you meet people who are confident,
Starting point is 01:13:55 they're just very calm and they're very comfortable in their own. You just know how to navigate through, you know, whatever scenario they're in. And I think that's, that comes with experience. And I think that comes with the experience. And I tried to immerse myself in as many experiences as I could so that way I knew sort of how to dig my way out or how to like move and read the crowd
Starting point is 01:14:16 and read the energy and read the person and like move accordingly. So it's all about self-belief, but I think people confuse self-belief with believing that they're the best, or that's not necessarily confidence. I'm gonna go in here and I know I'm gonna win. Like that's a part of competitive confidence,
Starting point is 01:14:37 but that's not really confidence because all it takes to break that is for you to lose. Like second, you get your ass kicked. Yeah, now what? But if you believe you have self-belief in yourself? But if you believe, you have self belief in yourself that no matter what happens, you're gonna be fine. And you're gonna learn from whatever, and you're gonna try again, and you're not a quitter,
Starting point is 01:14:54 or you're not a loser, or that's real confidence. When you go into a scenario like- The stuff people can't take away from you. Yeah, you're always gonna keep that identity, that part of you that you believe in. You're always going to, you know, keep that identity, that part of you, like, that you believe in. Like, you're going to keep that regardless of any scenario. It makes life fun. It really does. And it's funny because when you ask a bunch of people, and they do these studies all the time, and they'll ask people what the top fears are for people.
Starting point is 01:15:19 Like, what are the number one, like, your top five things that make you feel really anxious and fearful? And you know what's one of the top ones always? Public speaking. Super safe. You're not going to get killed. You're not doing anything dangerous. You're talking in front of a group of people. I know people who freak out because they have to give a speech at a wedding.
Starting point is 01:15:38 Like I've had family members who are like, oh my god, I got picked. I'm the best man. Yeah. And they're fucking sweat and sweat and being humiliated by all these people, right? But, I mean, are you really? You know what I mean? It's such a thing that we created in our own minds. It's so true that the thought of things is far worse than the actual things in themselves.
Starting point is 01:15:56 And the panic of it makes you perform worse. You know, it's like just abandon that idea and just go for it. And just own what you are. Like, I suck at most sports. I didn't play a lot of sports, and I'm not good at them. Like I own it, and it's okay, and I laugh about it,
Starting point is 01:16:13 and it makes me confident about it. It's kind of strange, right? Like I could hide it and pretend like I'm not, but the fact that I own it, and it's not a big deal to me, I'm sure it comes across as confidence, even though I don't really think about it that way, I just think to myself like, whatever,
Starting point is 01:16:27 who cares, I own what I am, I'm short or I'm this or I'm that, or it's just who you are and just kinda own it and be okay with it, and then the confidence against comes second. The key is, you know, it's what people allow is the other people to affect that. It's like you just name some things like short, what people allow is the other people to affect that, right?
Starting point is 01:16:48 It's like you just name some things like short, not good at sports. Like that only matters or that only bothers people when the other people pointed out, like if I say like, so you're really shitty at sports. Well, if I do that, that's my own insecurities. You have the ability to know that like,
Starting point is 01:17:03 like, oh Adam must feel like he has something to prove in sports because he's, he's, you know, attached himself to being an athlete. And so he obviously feels like he has something to prove by putting me down to make himself better. That poor guy, you know, I'm saying like when you learn to look at it like that, when people say these things or, oh, you're short, this and that, well, all those things that people attack you and that's their own issue, that's their reflection of their own issues.
Starting point is 01:17:29 And once you learn to look at like that, and it's like, yeah, I can't do anything. I'll tell you what my help, here's what my help, because it's so hard, like, you can't chase confidence. I don't think you can necessarily be like, I'm gonna be confident, like trying to chase meditation. I don't think it works that way, but listen to a bunch of self-help, you know.
Starting point is 01:17:44 Yeah, come on. I think, you know what might be good about this? Find a very confident person. As soon as that real confidence, real calm confidence, and just watch them. I've actually learned from a few friends of mine in situations where I just look at them like, holy shit, like that is the, in this particular scenario, this is one of the most confident, cool people I've ever met. And I just watch them and see what they do.
Starting point is 01:18:06 And then I realized like, it's nothing magic. They're not doing anything magical. I mean, we all know those people, right? Where you go and walk into a situation. I mean, I have a buddy, he's not good looking. He's not very fit. On paper, there's nothing spectacular about the guy, but he walks into a room and he owns it.
Starting point is 01:18:22 He's not even trying to. It's just who he is. He just walks in and he owns it. One's not even trying to. It's just who he is. He just walks in, he owns it. One of the most confident individuals I've ever met and I used to love going places with him because I'd watch him. And he's like, what? I've watched him.
Starting point is 01:18:33 Just unbelievably comfortable with himself. Yeah, just super comfortable. So comfortable with who they are. Yeah, that's it. Really, really, that's the answer, right? Is becoming ultra confident and comfortable with who you are. That's it. Quick commercial break. Hey, people ask us all becoming ultra confident and comfortable with who you are. That's it.
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Starting point is 01:19:26 So, when I first opened my personal training slash wellness facility, I had a partner. And my business partner was really into like the fitness tools, type of stuff. And so I fucking so mad at him for buying some of this shit because it was my money. I was the fucking backer. I was the financial backer for the whole thing. But one of the dumbest pieces of equipment I've ever seen in my entire,
Starting point is 01:19:54 I remember when he ordered it. I got the box, I opened it up, and I'm like, what the fuck is this thing? And he's like, oh, it's a body blade. We have to go to the body blade. And you bought one of those. Shake, shake, shake, shake, shake. He's like, it's fucking cool. It's the about one of those. Shake, shake, shake, shake, shake. He's like, it's fucking COG's shake way.
Starting point is 01:20:06 He's like, you shake it and then you do like, you know, stability exercises and you fucking this that and the other. It was the biggest waste of money of all time. It was totally stupid, totally worthless and it collected dust in my gym. It sat in the corner and didn't do shit at all. And then the second dumbest piece of equipment was, so perform better, you guys know the website performbetter.com, okay.
Starting point is 01:20:30 Overpriced fitness equipment for the most food. Don't you know equipment for $5,000? That's $1,000. Phone roller, $175. Anyway, so we bought foam rollers from there, and they had this vibrating foam roller that you bought. And it's set on there, like vibrates intensely. And I'm thinking like, oh shit, like, this is back when I thought you would break in
Starting point is 01:20:51 that adhesions and doing self-mile fashion release, right? We know better now, but I'm thinking like, oh shit, if it vibrates on there, it might actually be more effective. Because I'm thinking of this like hard vibrating like thing that I'm laying on my IT band. I'm like, okay, I'll buy one of these, right? So I order it. And it's, it was a short black like okay, I'll buy one of these right so I order it and It's it was a short black foam roller. So it was one of the half ones and then on the side of it there was like this white Twist knob that you turned to the right and then it vibrates and it was weakest fuck like you get on it And it didn't even vibrate that strongly, so didn't really do anything
Starting point is 01:21:22 So all we did is we use it like a foam roller So I'm all this is stupid. I spent more money really do anything. So, all we did is we used it like a foam roller. So, I'm all, this is stupid, I spent more money for nothing, whatever. So, you notice a candle slides out. So, well, hold on. So, I know I've told the story before. So, I have it in the gym, it's sitting in the gym. It's in the corner.
Starting point is 01:21:37 And I used to train, one of the things I used to do that my clients used to love, something that we kind of became known for is that people could bring their kids when they'd come and work out out because we're a small studio. And we'd have a lot of moms that would have like post pregnancy and they'd bring their baby. And I'm really, I love children, I love kids.
Starting point is 01:21:53 So I'd hold their kids or feed their kids while they work out. And it became this thing. It actually got me a lot of clients. But this lady that we trained, she came to work out. It was post pregnancy. And she worked out with us. She actually trained with one of my other trainers, but I played with her son, and the little boy got older
Starting point is 01:22:09 and he became a toddler, so we'd run around the gym, and while we're training clients, we kinda keep an eye on him, but it was cool, great atmosphere. So this little guy runs over to the vibrating foam roller, and he's playing with it. And so I don't, I see he's over there, it's he's safe, there's nothing bad. We're working out, well he fucking runs over to his mom with a dildo in his hand.
Starting point is 01:22:31 A old school, an old school white, like if you, if you're my, okay, if you're like 35 or older, you remember those ads in the back of magazines where a woman is holding up a white tapered-end Dildo up to her face and it says back massage like a bullshin you they're trying to sell you It's a fucking vibrator, but they would say back massage and for sure women were buying these to masturbate with But anyway, it was that old that's the one it was it was an old school hard plastic white tapered-end
Starting point is 01:23:03 Fucking vibrator disguises a foam roller. Puls. It was in the it was in the foam roller You sniff it so he runs over to what is the point of that? So he runs over to his mom and he shows his mom and she's looking at us like where did my son get this? And I can't figure it out. I'm like what the fuck just happened We had a vibrator and and I look at the back of it and it's the twist knob And I'm like oh shit and I go over the foam roller and there's an empty hole and I look at the back of it and it's the twist knob and I'm like, oh shit And I go over the foam roller and there's an empty hole and I stick it in there I'm like, oh my god. He pulled it out of this thing and we're all dying of laughter and I'm furious at perform better calm
Starting point is 01:23:35 Forcelling me a fucking vibrator inside a foam roller So I took a picture of an anemia to him and I'm like, you're gonna fucking refund me for selling because I know what they did They went and bought a fucking shit ton of cheap ass Chinese made. Old used ones. Yeah, old that they couldn't sell. And then they just like, oh shit, we can stick them back about the foam roller and make, that was ridiculous.
Starting point is 01:23:55 That was dumbass, yeah. They have a better version of that now though. Yeah, of course they do, probably because of me. And it's awesome. Like you're gonna give me a refund or I'm gonna tell everybody about those. I did anyway. I'm trying to think of the dumbest piece of equipment. I have not bought a lot of gimmicky tools.
Starting point is 01:24:11 I'm not gonna lie. I own the wheel, I own battle robes, I own bozo ball and I've had pads for boxing and stuff, some cones. I really have not bought a lot of gimmicky stuff. I will say this though, probably the biggest waste of money out of them is probably my battle ropes because I sure shit don't use those, hardly ever.
Starting point is 01:24:34 I mean, I'm like Mr. No cardio guy. I'm certainly not Mr. Go fucking swing ropes around for cardio. I don't know what I was thinking. I'm Mr. No cardio. When I bought those, I got some. I fucking donate them to the studio. Yeah, I don't. I will Rose when I bought those. I got some, I fucking donated them to the studio. Yeah, I don't worry about it. I will bring them.
Starting point is 01:24:46 I will bring them. Yeah, I used them for, I can count on one hand how many times I've used this thing. What did you do them just outside? Yeah, I had my house, you know, I had a, I remember I used to run boot camps so I did use them for that. So I used them for camp.
Starting point is 01:24:59 I made other people do them, but I fucking didn't use them, you know what I'm saying? It's like, who's the one that came up with that, by the way? The Battle Roads? I don't know. I feel like it's an old training tool that someone... I don't know, because I remember seeing too,
Starting point is 01:25:11 somebody was using chains like that as well, at the same time, it was like, I feel like maybe Strongman kind of did something like... I know MMA guys got a popular. It was MMA that got a popular, because they were doing that for shoulder stamina or whatever. And then everybody was like, oh, I gotta do this.
Starting point is 01:25:29 This is a little squint. I mean, it definitely exploded during our career. Like our era, right? Like, I mean, it was not popular the first five years I was a trainer. Like, nobody, nobody was doing that. I remember, when we first started like foam rolling and stability balls were just hitting the scene. Like like so that was a big deal was stability balls and foam rolling it wasn't until
Starting point is 01:25:50 You know maybe eight years later or so did people start using battle ropes and then it got really trendy for a while That's still is I think I probably bought the most tools out of the group. I'm sure like I had Olympic rings. I was probably the first to have Olympic rings. Like I would bring it into gold's gym and like hang it off of, you know, the squat rack or whatever. And nobody gave me any ship for a while until that Jerry guy saw me doing that and was just like freaking out. Even though it's bolted down. It's like the owner of that goat in anywhere. Yeah. Jerry McCall. Yeah. All the gold. Yeah. This is before like two CrossFit. It was like the owner of the not going anywhere. Yeah. Jeremy call. Yeah. All the gold. Yeah. This is before like two CrossFit. It was even a thing. So like they're,
Starting point is 01:26:30 they're somebody like some movement. I think it was, I don't know when CrossFit really got popular, but before that, there was this gym in like Nevada. That was like, it was all about like, um, super like old school, like stuff. I got really into that, like, super like old school stuff. I got really into that, like everything that was old. So that's what got me into kettlebells and that's what got me into like thinking about unconventional tools. I think the useless one out of the group that I bought
Starting point is 01:27:00 that actually is in the closet, I think, but it's like the era of suspension trainers. So, I mean, I liked T or X just because it's some publicity of the design and the way that they had everything sort of organized, but you know, you get a lot of these knockoff ones that tried to like compete with it. And so I bought one that like had this sort of a wheel
Starting point is 01:27:23 that would, you would put a pin in there to stop it from having full pully, like it would lock it in place. But yeah, so you'd get super unstable. I could do rows and I would. I have one arm back and one arm would come forward. So it had that like free flowing kind of like ability to anyways. It was like I used it maybe a few times and it was just like the foot straps in it. Like we're shitty designed and like the whole thing was just like gimmicky, you know,
Starting point is 01:28:01 like trying to compete with what was already like, you know, a hit. And I think between that and the jump, like I was really into testing at one point, like, because I had athletes and stuff and so I was like, oh, I need to get a vertical jump test. And so I got this like platform actually still have it and I was gonna bring it and like, when the fuck am I gonna use this, you know,
Starting point is 01:28:21 like a vertical jump. It's not the one you jump up hit the. No, which that one's awesome. Yeah, that's a cool tool, I wish we had that. This one is just basically it measures the ground forces that I already produced to push off and jump up high. But that's expensive. Yeah, it's expensive.
Starting point is 01:28:39 And I paid for it. I used it maybe once, because I had one client that all they wanted to do is increase the vertical jump So you know, so I bought this like really expensive piece of shit I still have it. I'm like never even using you've had some jump rope tools. I've seen too you have had some shit Oh, no, thank you The jump rope with the the LED lights. I was trying to reverse engineer like like, you know, what they did with the LEDs.
Starting point is 01:29:05 I knew you had some stupid checks. So when you jump, basically, like, the revolutions, it creates, like, when the lights are in front of you. Some way it was able to show this digital display in front of you. You can see the amount of reps that were real time. I remember those commercials when they came out. It was so cool.
Starting point is 01:29:23 It was like super cool, but like, you can't even see it if the lights were on. It only works if you jump over the dark, which is not a good idea. And it's like the handles are all fucking too big. And I just want to regular jump rope. What's some of the dumbest equipment you guys used a lot
Starting point is 01:29:42 as trainers that now you're like, what the fuck was I? I'm on the dinodisks. Do you guys use that for everything? I did use that for me. Yeah, that people standing in that ship for everything. I did do dinodisks and foam pass-off, but it might be like a whoopee cushion. Yeah, for everything though, we're going to try to set press downs on the dinodisks. On the dinodisks.
Starting point is 01:30:00 We're going to curl on the dinodisks. I did a lot of Smith machine work for sure. Which I still I mean I actually use you know so funny how because we like inverted we talk so much shit about this Smith machine that I'm self-conscious to use it now. So I actually wanted to get caught on their sims going to kick. Well, so what I was doing I was actually doing a supinated grip bench press the other day hadn't done that in years and just oh that's for sure That's fine with on a Smith machine right you're gonna shit in a free bar, right without a spotter. Yeah, it's a motherfucker Right so so they have it has its place I lose your teeth something like that right like so I I felt validated for using it for that but then I was like nervous
Starting point is 01:30:41 I'm like this is gonna be the time like some mind pump listener like comes walking up to me I'm gonna be using the Smith machine and I'm gonna have to like explain myself. Yeah. No, listen, this is what I'm doing right now. Like, it's so. Yeah. Yeah, because I used to use it all the time.
Starting point is 01:30:53 Now I never do, but I just did the other day and it was really funny because I did have this moment of, I was totally self-conscious of using it. I thought, oh, how funny is that? That because we've talked so much shit about on the show. Yeah. I'm afraid to use a machine because someone's going to come over and notice. You could see the growth of personal
Starting point is 01:31:10 training. It's right along line with all the growth of these fucking tools that they would sell. I'm saying, because I would get these catalogs when I own my studio. And it was like all these little tools that you could use. And I remember looking at half of them and going, because by this point, I realized half of it was like all these like little tools that you could use. And I remember looking at half of them and going, because by this point, I realized half of it was bullshit. Like, why would I buy any of this stuff? I don't need any. Now everything's like out of sand or like water, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:31:34 Just like variable resistance. And I'm like, I get it. You know, like there's, it's just like, why? You got it because you have to figure out how to do it. What's the cell shit? What do you guys think is the stupidest most popular tool right now? That's popular?
Starting point is 01:31:48 Popular? Yeah, popular right now. That's stupid. That's right now, that's really, I think the training mask is the dumbest thing. Oh, yeah. So you know what? I did more research on the training mask.
Starting point is 01:31:57 You know what it does? It strengthens your diaphragm. So your ability to suck in air, it actually, it actually gives you resistance so it can strengthen your diaphragm. Now, is that a bed? It's still stupid. It doesn't, it's still, it's still, it's still a go up there, it's stupid.
Starting point is 01:32:12 Well, so I thought of a potential application for it. So hear me out. I'm listening. Yeah, so hear me out. So, when Jessica went to the Paul Chek certification, they were talking about muscle recruitment patterns that affect your breathing. So you get a lot of people, so now we talk about how some people have issues
Starting point is 01:32:32 getting a full-dye, a dramatic breath, and they always breathe, they shallow breathe or whatever. Well, that is a recruitment pattern like any other, where if you walk a particular way or if you squat a particular way and you do that all the time, that becomes your default pattern. So, just simply teaching people how to belly breathe isn't enough.
Starting point is 01:32:52 They have to train it because their default recruitment pattern is to not get a full breath. Their diaphragm works in this particular way and it's hard to train out of it. And if you don't, then people have these signs of stress. Some people feel like they can't breathe or they'll feel like they're out of breath or they yawn a lot. Like a lot of yawning is a sign of not getting full breath because when you yawn, it actually forces you to get this full diaphragmatic breath. A lot of people don't realize that. So I'm thinking, I was thinking that maybe those masks, as a training tool for that, where you put the mask on, and then you suck in and focus on really getting a belly breath, and then breathing out real hard,
Starting point is 01:33:31 and just strengthening those equipment patterns. Well, if that's, if that's, I haven't tried it, but I'm expecting it. If that's it, well, then I'm going to challenge that theory with that wouldn't be, to me, that would be no different than somebody who has poor recruitment patterns in squatting and then they decide to put a belt on to help that. Not that it's helping it, because I feel like it would give... Because if you have a bad pattern of doing that, how would restricting air actually help you create that pattern? So I've never used one. I've never put one on. But I think what it does is it makes it so you have to breathe in harder because I did like I said I read studies that shows strengthens the diaphragm
Starting point is 01:34:09 So I know you have to suck in harder, right because it's a strict. Have you ever have you ever resist? Have you ever tried to snorkel? Have you snorkel before? Yeah, it's like that Have you had one on before you tried one? No, I haven't tried a mask on but I know that's exactly what it's doing It's it's just like you're sucking your blowing you're being able to breathe through a tube. That's all you get. So, if you've ever breathed through a snorkel, now what you have to do when you go breathe through a snorkel is it does force you to calm, like calm your breathing down or you will like hyperventilated. You can't do that snorkel yet though.
Starting point is 01:34:38 You have to take these slow breaths. So I mean, it might be a training tool that I've never used once. So I'm just speculating. But for the reason people think they're using it for, yeah. Yeah, exactly. Even if that was true, I'd still think it's a ridiculous tool because it's the carryover to what you're getting from it. I'm saying, what are the real benefits?
Starting point is 01:34:58 You'd have to be in a very specific sport where I could see. Yeah, we could go down the rabbit hole for a lot of these. Like even the body blade I could make, you know, like, the relevance out of that as far as like, you know, muscle contractions, and you know, consistent muscle tension. And, you know, it's just a matter of like, on a totem pole of priority. It wouldn't have sold millions if you couldn't argue some science behind it, right? Right. I mean, that's how I always look at it.
Starting point is 01:35:24 Like if they, if they, I don't know, man, sometimes selling Right. I mean, that's how I always look at it. Like if they I don't know, man. Sometimes selling millions doesn't mean thing. Well, like fucking you could go pick up a rock outside and make a fucking workout out of it. So it's not like that actually happened at one point. They did sell a pet rock. Yeah. That's what I mean. Like it's like it doesn't matter what it is. Like you can that I think my problem with a lot of like these exercise of equipment is if your body is going through all these movements yourself and you're just carrying this thing with you, what's the relevance of it's not like plate loaded or it's not an actual load of weight.
Starting point is 01:35:57 It's just like, you're doing all these unique movements with it, but why? You know what I've seen lately on my feed on YouTube? And I think on Instagram too, is the fucking mouth trainer. Have you seen this thing? Did you guys see this? That was around before. Oh, I got a fucking stupid one for you guys.
Starting point is 01:36:15 Okay, like Shark Tank, you know, like Laurie I think, she backed this one like, it's a piece of plastic that's like basically like a U-shape that has like two spots for your feet to stand on it, so you kind of balance. And then like you just, you go up down like a teeter totter, like up down, up down, and you kind of twist left, right, left, right, so you twist your trunk with it. And that's it. And then they make like, and it like 5 million different like movements out of like nothing. It's, you know what it is?
Starting point is 01:36:47 It's, if it looks cool, or if it looks weird, it'll sell. The shake weight sold so many, because it looks like someone's jacking off. That's the only reason why it's sold. It's like a joke, so everybody, and it worked. And everybody bought one, because it looks like a hand job.
Starting point is 01:37:03 This mouth trainer one that I'm talking about, it's the thing you put in your mouth, the commercials for it is like, I remember when I told you guys, I just wanted to get one of the other. Axe did their, the balls, the dirty balls. That was the most boring commercial ever, man. It was so brilliant. Well, with that, check this out.
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