Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 586: The Healthiest Ways to Cook Your Food, Optimizing Cortisol, Sumo vs. Conventional Deadlifts & MORE

Episode Date: September 1, 2017

Kimera-Quah! In this episode of Quah, sponsored by Kimera Koffee (kimerakoffee.com, code "mindpump" for 10% off), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about the difference between conventional and sumo deadlifts, cortisol, what it is, what affects it and what you can do to keep it at healthy levels, the effectiveness of nootropics for someone with ADHD and how the way you cook your food affects nutrition and health. Guys talk old movie special effects and Adam talks The Defiant Ones (3:55) Guys talk the business and monetary success (10:45) Millionaires Business can’t stay stagnant Sal/Justin talk about money and their kids (16:50) Value of a dollar Work Ethic Value of investments Sal talked to his son about inflation Kids getting older (more testosterone and language) (24:30) No computers/tablets allowed alone in bedroom or bathroom Starting to curse Quah question #1 – What’s the difference between conventional and sumo deadlift? When should you use one or the other? (32:50) Work on both and build your mechanics Focus on one (phase) and do the other Encourage interchanging of exercises Quah question #2 – Can you talk about cortisol? What is it? What effects it has? What can you do to keep at normal levels? (45:01) Helps regulate the immune system, blood sugar levels o   Raises in response to stress Ashwagandha and Reishi Quah question #3 – How effective are nootropics for someone with ADHD? (54:47) Address the root cause first Sleep, exercise and nutrition key Elimination Diet Dopamine increases Quah question #4 – Does the way you cook you food matter nutritionally? (1:08:41) Food intolerances with raw vs. cooked foods Variety/rotation is important Related Links/Products Mentioned Organifi Coupon Code "mindpump" HBO | The Defiant Ones | Homepage - HBO.com (website)  The Millionaire Next Door - The New York Times (article) How Many People Earn More than $1,000,000 Per Year In the United States? (article) A Biomechanical Analysis of the Deadlift: Conventional vs Sumo (article) 11 Natural Ways to Lower Your Cortisol Levels (article) Irresistible: The Rise of Addictive Technology and the Business of Keeping Us Hooked – Adam Alter (book) Regular exercise changes the brain to improve memory, thinking skills (article) Think Better: Exercise (article) Fact or Fiction: Raw Veggies are Healthier than Cooked Ones (article) People Mentioned: Joe Rogan (@joerogan) · Twitter Layne Norton, PhD (@biolayne) • Instagram Dr. Joseph Mercola (@mercola) · Twitter Would you like to be coached by Sal, Adam & Justin? You can get 30 days of virtual coaching from them for FREE at www.mindpumpmedia.com. Get our newest program, MAPS Prime Pro, which shows you how to self assess and correct muscle recruitment patterns that cause pain and impede performance and gains. Get it at www.mindpumpmedia.com! Get MAPS Prime, MAPS Anywhere, MAPS Anabolic, MAPS Performance, MAPS Aesthetic, the Butt Builder Blueprint, the Sexy Athlete Mod AND KB4A (The MAPS Super Bundle) packaged together at a substantial DISCOUNT at www.mindpumpmedia.com. Make EVERY workout better with MAPS Prime, the only pre-workout you need… it is now available at mindpumpmedia.com Have Sal, Adam & Justin personally train you via video instruction on our YouTube channel, Mind Pump TV. Be sure to Subscribe for updates. Get your Kimera Koffee at www.kimerakoffee.com, code "mindpump" for 10% off! Get Organifi, certified organic greens, protein, probiotics, etc at www.organifi.com Use the code “mindpump” for 20% off. Go to foursigmatic.com/mindpump and use the discount code “mindpump” for 15% off of your first order of health & energy boosting mushroom products. Add to the incredible brain enhancing effect of Kimera Koffee with www.brain.fm/mindpump 10 Free sessions! Music for the brain for incredible focus, sleep and naps! Also includes 20% if you purchase! Please subscribe, rate and review this show! Each week our favorite reviewers are announced on the show and sent Mind Pump T-shirts! Have questions for Mind Pump? Each Monday on Instagram (@mindpumpradio) look for the QUAH post and input your question there. (Sal, Adam & Justin will answer as many questions as they can)

If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, with your hosts. Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. In this episode of Mind Pump, for the first 29 minutes, we have a nice time, a bowl-shitting like we normally do. We talked about... My favorite part. One of the greatest movies of all time The never ending story

Great movie And how we show our kids these old movies and how they usually crap on them Adam talks about is a great Documentary series on HBO called the defiant ones He kind of identifies with it because of the title. He's a defiant one himself He kind of identifies with it because of the title. He's a defiant one himself. We also talk about being part of the 1% and teaching the value of money to our kids

and kids and swearing. We think our kids might be starting to say bad words. And then we talk about the first time. Oh, shit. We got caught saying bad words. And now we say them all the fucking time. On Mind Pump, we do. Then we get into the questions.

The first question was What is the difference between conventional and sumo deadlifts? Are they the same are they interchangeable or are they two? Separate exercises find out in this episode then we talk about Cortisol the evil hormone that's also necessary for health How to keep it at healthy levels? Adam mentions that he's been using the green juice from Organifi that contains some adaptogenic herbs,

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Hold on. You already feel it adjusted I could tell. Never ending story. God damn it! Yes! He's so good! Never ending story. That's the never ending story. Never ending story. God damn it. Yes. He's so good. Never ending story. That's the never ending story. Never ending story. Oh my God. I would have never. I would have never got that. Did you watch that movie? I did. Like when I was fucking seven. What? Wow. Yeah, I don't remember it. God damn it. That song was like stuck in everybody. Yeah, I definitely don't remember the song. That's crazy

Yes, yeah, I don't know the where you know what I'm realizing about you Justin me and you have a lot in common I know we remember random shit. Yeah, it's like totally random. Yeah, except you also remember fucking like Super like specific no articles and that's different I just I just so happened to like get a podcast now It can make use of it. Okay, you know what I mean? Yeah, but before that I didn't it was fucking waiting It was good in conversation. I'm still trying to find my super power. Yeah, I don't know Gingles, okay, yeah, see you know This is why I always compare myself to Joey, you know from a full house Cuz he was like the jingle guy. I swear to God, I missed my calling.

Like I could come up with like stupid ass songs and sell shit. You kind of have some more mannerisms in them too. Yeah, you guys have some more manner. I feel like I'm not that dorky, you know what I mean? Have you had a chance to show your kids never ending story? Not yet.

No. Well, they watch old shit like that. I don't know, they like bored. No, no, no, no, no, I'll story? Not yet. No. Well, they watch old, I don't know. They might be like, they might be like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no Because they used a lot of like puppet type stuff because it's kind of like the black what's that what's that one movie black crystal? Black crystal dark crystal sorry labyrinth. They've got the puppets and shit and like my kids aren't used to seeing that I know Yeah, that was like everywhere. Yes, era and then now it's like you barely see Yeah, so I showed my daughter and she's just like oh my god. This is so awesome. Plus. It's a good story Yeah, you know what I'm saying? awesome. Plus, it's a good story.

You know what I'm saying? Oh, she actually liked it because of that. See, I would think, I would think, I don't like it because I think it looks graphically weak. It looks weak when you try and show them an old movie that tries to use old CGI or stuff like that. Then my kids are like,

this looks stupid. Well, that's what's cool because my oldest, he loves the old Star Wars. He's not like any of the new stuff that has CGI in it like any of it He loves like old stormtrooper helmets and all kinds of stuff because it's like it looks more real, you know Oh, that's funny. Yeah. Well the old ones were definitely the three that came out after the original three were were cock-ass Yeah, but the last the last couple I thought they did really good job. I like being True to the graphics and what it was especially a real one

It really like kind of brought back a lot of that like dirtiness and that grunge and like you know run down Uniforms and shit, so I think that's a lot of people appreciated that, you know Did you guys finish watching all the four defiant ones? I haven't. I haven't got to watch. Are they really good? I haven't even watched the one yet. I can't be forgetting. Oh shit.

How are you forgetting to watch this? Oh right. That's not right now. So motivating, dude. God. To see what these guys have built, bro. And a lot, I didn't realize, Jimmy IV, right, IV, or IV,

I can't forget how you pronounce it. Oh, from Apple, the designer. Well, yet what he's connected to, right, IV or IV, I can't forget how you pronounce it. Oh, from Apple, the designer. Well, yet, but he's connected to, originally, he was the producer for, I mean, he started with Bruce Springsteen and all those guys. Oh, that's this guy's name? Oh, yeah. Oh, okay, yeah, he was in the first one too. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

So he's in all of them, because it's really, it's kind of, he's a smart dude. Dude, his, I didn't realize how many people were connected to him and how many of these Crazy collaborations and music that we've seen were because of him Like he's that's he is The the out of air anybody in the in the industry. I don't think anybody has put more people together that have turned into huge like hits and The I mean it started with the acquisition of inner scope records, but which was, you know,

death row was a part of that. And like their whole image was pushing back. And I identify so much with it because this was when I was a kid, I was really into music at this time. So I listened to like all, I didn't realize that they were, they owned all this, you know, they had Marilyn Manson, they had Death Row, Nine-inch nails, Gwen Stefani, like they did no doubt, like they did all the people that were edgy

that nobody wanted to touch, and they like prided themselves on finding these like people that were pushing the boundaries. Because I remember when no doubt, when that was like hard to categorize, like what kind of music was that? Yeah, exactly. And that's what he, he searched for these artists that was red hot chili peppers on that label No, she had red hot chili peppers were some of the people that

Another one of those bands that we talked about that tried to stay garage as long as they could Oh, yeah, I don't remember the label that they were with if they ever even signed with a major label or not I can't think of the off-top my head. There's a lot of good artists on inner scope I remember that. That was like a big. And he's responsible for literally all of it. And then Dre's story too, and how he, when he left Death Row and then went over

and created his own label aftermath and why he did that. Like I remember, I was so much into music at that time. And it really filled the holes and gaps of things that I wasn't certain about. I was like, oh, that's why that happened. Or, oh, I always wondered why he left during that time because it was such that they were killing it. And so pretty cool to watch his story.

It's very well written. And because I own all the documentaries on all those guys, and I've seen a ton of stuff on two-pock and Biggie and all them. And they really got dug into the behind the scenes and the business side of it, which I really enjoyed. Very little of the hype and drama and the bullshit that the media fed you with, which was to promote all this stuff. And I mean, really about all the guys that were making millions of dollars and the shit that they were going through while all this went down. And you know, pretty fucking great,

well done, man. It was HBO was HBO did that I think that series The defiant one so if you haven't watched that yeah check that out I think that was probably one of the better series that I've watched in a while more money more problems I don't think that's true. That's I know I hate them at all. Yeah, when they say that I get more problems now. We're good for you. Yeah, those are good problems I have and there's that there's some truth to that, I go more problems now, good for you. Those are good problems I have. There's some truth to that, right? You make your problems when you get that.

Well, I think that's different. With more money, you know what I was actually looking at these random stats, like, do you know how many companies actually make it to $100 million and how many people actually make a million like become millionaires, like the percentages? You know the percentage of millionaires

is like 1.5%. You know how that's how rare it is. And yeah, now that is people that actually make a million plus dollars per year. Not who have accumulated a million dollars. Yeah, right. There's much, much, much larger. There's a much larger number of people that have assets as far as homes

and things like that that are value that is liquid cash. Yeah, people that are millionaires, right? If you're a millionaire and you could go, you know, pull a million dollars out of it, well, now you don't have to be able to pull a million dollars. You make a million dollars in revenue every year or more. It's only 1.5%. There's not a lot of people that actually make that.

And we talk about, you know, how many people in the US dug? You said, what was the number? For a 315 million. 315 million. So how many millionaires is that then? There are no, or people making. Yeah, there's a, you gotta look was the number? 315 million. 315 million. So how many millionaires is that then? Or people making? Yeah, you got to look at the disseparate those because there's a lot more people that are

worth a million dollars because you've inherited it or you know, so you come from a rich family or you've earned it. People who are making a million or more per year. So that makes, that's about 4.7 million people in America who make a million dollars per year. So that makes, that's about, that makes sense. That's 4.7 million people in America who make a million dollars per year. Yeah. Which is not much considering there's 300 million. No, you're the people. The one percenters, man, if you get into that, into that right. And just I think a lot of people put the facade on like they are and act.

Yeah, there's a lot of figures. There's a ton of people that act a big game and act like there's a lot of money. But, you know, and we all know, right, being in the position we are, building what we're building right now, I think a lot of people think that, you know, the mind pumpers all the success. And yes, we've had a ton of success, but the revenue isn't there for us

because we have to pay employees' best. Yeah, you gotta, you gotta, if you're really gonna build a company that makes $100 million a year, you know, it's gonna be quite some time before you're ever even making that kind of money because you've got to continue to dump it back into the business and reinvest and people, I mean, to run a company that makes 50 to 100 million dollars

a year, you don't, you can't do that with five people. Like, unless you're the anomaly, right, somebody who hits something just crazy, and even those people that company doesn't sustain itself unless you've got a staff to continue to build and reinvent and, you know, I think a lot of the, I was watching and then of course, that's just how my mind goes, I go down the rabbit hole, I'm starting to Google and search,

dive into more stuff and I'm like, God damn, I can't believe how few of people actually break that milestone of making that kind of money. What do you point up right now, Doug? What is that? Some stats here. It's actually lower than that. Is it, huh? That's lower. So what is the number there? It's 236,000. Make a million. Any year. Out of 300 and actually 23 million people in the United States. Wow.

Oh, that's small. That's not much at all. Oh, very low. Wow, I was not in the best set. In the top one percent, you need to make $380,000 a year. That's the one percent, huh? Well, that's on the whole US. I'd like to see what the one percent.

Actually, these numbers, I think, are from like 2009 to their mid-old. Hmm. Still gives you a good. Well, think about this way. If you're making a million dollars a year in income, you're probably, you've got some, some great investments to make that much, right? I mean, you've got some incredible investments. Well, you don't even need a million in certain parts of the country to, you know.

Well, I mean, having a million in assets is not that rare around here, around the area. No, and that's why, if you bought a house, that's why I took that out of there. Because it's a huge difference, right? Yeah. And there's a lot of, which I think, and I'm not interested in those people, I'm not interested in not taking anything from someone like that, like I'm not interested in somebody who, you know, your dad made $100 million and set you up with three houses and you have a business.

You don't count. You don't. I'm interested in people that have created this wealth for themselves and not a lot of people, you could spend your entire lifetime, you know, trying to reach that status of income. And I think with social media and with everything that we have out there

that you have so many fakers out there that put on this, you know, facade, or the little bit of money they do make, they put it into these things that make it look like they have way more money than what they really have. And in reality, very, very few make it to that and what it takes to reach that point is it's ridiculous, man. And I always tease Katrina all the time

because I know she gives me a hard time sometimes when I can be very distracted, you know, at home and stuff because I'm always thinking on things that need to be done or what we're working on currently or, you know, what how we're going to transition or move in two or three years because that's another thing too is, you know, business is never stagnant. There's no such thing as like, oh, I'm cruising along. You're either dying or you're growing at all times. And so the hardest thing I think for people that are chasing that, they get caught up in this like, you know, oh, we're doing well or things are going well

or it's like, no, like are we growing? Well, no, if the numbers aren't reflecting us growing, then technically we are dying. And people have a hard time accepting that. And then knowing how to reinvent yourself to constantly doing it, I'm so fascinated in businesses and people and like going back to the defiant ones, you know, you watch someone over 10, 20, 30 years, you got to continually be making these, these moves and pivots because eventually somebody will do exactly what you're doing for better, cheaper, faster,

and if you're not already, if you're not anticipating that and looking at your next move or your next made gobbled up. Yeah, you'll get gobbled up by somebody else. You know, it's a big challenge with building your own success that I think about sometimes is how do you keep, how do you keep your kids, or how do you make sure that they have the same appreciation for things and drive and desire that you had?

You know what I mean? Because being brought up in a successful household is very different, you know, monetarily, than being brought up in regular household and then become successful yourself. Like you ever think about that Justin, like how you would, you know what I mean? Yeah, how you can be.

Because I meant some still that sort of work ethic, you know admits, like they literally see what you have and you know, and they recognize it and they recognize, you know, when you're bringing things home and whatnot and ask you like, why, why, why, you know, you don't have money? Just by me. Yeah, like ask you that sometimes, like this, that's why? Why, you know, you don't have money? Because by me, this, yeah, you like ask me that sometimes, like, that's not the point, you know, like,

you have to earn this. And like, this is, this is what this equates to. So are your kids, are you guys as kids at that age yet? Were they actually asked these types of questions? Like I've never thought about that. Like have you had to like say, no son, you're not, I'm not gonna buy that for you and then go, why dad, you can't afford it or we can't do it?

Like if you had to have these type of issues. So he did ask me that. So I don and then go, why dad, you can't afford it or we can't do it, if you had to have these type of things. Totally, yeah. He did ask me that. So I don't like saying I can't afford it, not because I don't want them to think I can't afford it, but because what happens when I can't afford it, when they grow up and they realize if I can't afford something, it's not a affordability. I'm curious to how you guys handle that,

what you say when your kid asks to buy things that you think is free of answer. I'm still trying to build the actual value of dollars to him. So having him go through certain chores or certain responsibilities, we start talking about how much he feels he should get paid for that specific task. And we're starting really small, but I wanna just kinda see where his level is as far as what he thinks a dollar is worth and when he goes into the market,

it's like, okay, this actually costs 15 or like, his goal right now is to buy this set, this Lego set, it's like 55 bucks, right? And so we're trying to kinda chart this out, like okay, you help with the laundry and you're folding your clothes like we're willing to give you a dollar You know every time you do that and so we're just starting with that right cool, and so he's he's kind of like stacking it up He's got like seven bucks and he's like super positive now and Slave labor over you know

I'm like in next you gonna knit me a sweater. Yeah, I'm like, okay, next you're gonna knit me a sweater. I can't wait till it comes back, he learns Google is a dead, minimum wage is $750. Oh, he's all entitled. You're not paying me when I'm before. Would that be great? New asshole. Yeah.

You know what, my ex's parents used to do to her when she was a young kid, your guy's his kids age, I thought was really fascinating, was when they asked for things, video games, TV, news this, new that, whatever. And because she grew up in a very wealthy home, like he made a lot of money, and they had anything they needed. So, this obviously was a challenge for him

with her growing up. So she told me what her father would make her do, is that anytime they asked for something, they had to write a paper on why. So like if she wanted like a new TV or a new toy or a new dress or something like that, like you would have her think it out completely, put it on paper on why she needs that. And if she doesn't need it, why does she want it and explaining that? And then he would actually have this dialogue with her as far as like, you get that critical thinking there.

Yeah, yeah. Which is along the lines, you guys are going with having them think about the value of it and how, you know, how do you get $55? It's not as simple, you don't just go ask dad and dad hands you $55. And that's, it's not like I'm gonna pay him every time.

He does, you know, the task and so that. I don't want to like, I don't want to just pay him for every, you're helping him relate what, what a dollar. This is the first thing we're working on because he has a goal, right? So he still has to do other chores because he's a part of the family. We all contribute in the family. That's like a big thing with me. Yeah, everybody does something. Yeah, I've lately been talking to my, because my son just turned 12 and so we've been talking about Yeah, I've lately been talking to my, because my son just turned 12 and so we've been talking

about how he can potentially start a business even now. Yeah, I was, you brought this up this morning. I'm glad you brought this, you're talking about this because I think this is really cool that you've got a boy at the age that is now asking kind of business type questions, which I think would be so exciting as a father to. He was at, because he came up with an idea

on how to make money on YouTube and he was telling me how oh and I asked him I said well how do you think businesses make money on YouTube and he goes well through advertising and I said that's true and so but I broke it down and I said you're going to need a lot of viewers to make a decent amount of money on advertisers or you can come up with your own product, or your own service, that you sell through your YouTube channel, which then requires far less customers. So we were talking about, per sale, dollar amount, value, and we were coming up with ideas,

and I was kind of breaking it down for him, because I was trying to get his wheel spinning, because I would love for him to try to start a business and for me to help him out, just to teach him, you know, how things work and how difficult it is and to see him put his effort and energy towards, you know, doing something that he also has options, you know? Like, you mean, you want them to go through

the educational process, but it's like, you know, you all can't also learn by, you know, doing this job. Absolutely, absolutely. So, and my daughter's a little young for that, can also learn by doing this job. Absolutely, absolutely. So, and my daughter's a little young for that, but I like to, I'm trying to, because what I got from my parents, my parents were both immigrants, they were both very hard working, but they came from the mentality that what you earned, you saved, you saved and you didn't spend much, which is good old-, good old-fashioned classic conservative, you know, money management. However, when I was 19, 20, 21 and I was

making six figures running gyms, all I did was take the money and save it because they didn't understand investments. They didn't get that because where they came from, you saved it. So had, I wish I had somebody that taught me investments that cool, you could buy this property, you could do this. And by now, I definitely would have far more assets had I known that at that age. So I'm trying to explain that to my son, in fact, I just had a conversation with him yesterday on,

Wow, that's a really awesome thing. I told him on inflation, and I explained to him, you know, if you have a thousand dollars and you just save it in the bank, you know you're losing money, right? And he's like, what do you mean? And I said, well, this is how much interest you get from the bank, but this is what inflation is at.

And in reality, you're actually losing money. And he's like, well, that sucks. Like, yeah. Like, what do I do? I said, you have to figure out how to invest it. So you make more, at least more than inflation, but you can make you have a more. And we were talking about that and going through that

because I want him to understand that he can take his money, take his whatever's earned and turn it into more and have it work for him because I wasn't taught that. I had to learn that on my own later on. And I think that's a valuable lesson to learn. That's interesting because I was just listening to Joe Rogan podcast. He had this guy on who was you know, was an investor.

Shiff, for whatever. Shiff, yeah. And he's talking about like the online, you know, the way that you can invest in gold and how you can trade gold. So it's like, it's almost like an online like gold standard that they're trying to recreate. So you can easily sort of exchange it,

but it's always a tangible thing. It's not like Bitcoin where it's like, well, because gold doesn't inflate, like there's like money, like a gold. No, gold is, yeah. There's always been something valuable about gold. We've all, like for thousands of years. So it makes a lot of sense that, you know,

they could, you know, that's something like worth looking into investment-wise for sure. No, it's a cool, my son's at a cool age right now, you know, I'm starting to see, he's not a kid anymore. He's starting to become like, you know, kind of that teenager so you can see, I can see his mind is working a little differently. Testosterone starting to go up, which is pretty funny.

Like I was looking out on the other day and I'm like, are you getting a little peach fuzz on your fucking nose? Yeah, like what's going on? Yeah, it's pretty, is this voice, it's his voice cracking it off. Not yet, because he just turned 12, you know, but yeah, but yeah, yeah, yeah, but it's funny because you can see, I can see that testosterone

is trying to kick up a little bit. I can see like we were in the pool the other day, me, him and my daughter were playing, and he's rough housing differently with me, like more like a, you know, like a older boy would, you know, versus like a little kid. Oh wow. and he's fucking with me and he's jumping on me differently which more aggressive huh more aggressive because it's a and it's a natural instinct you know when testosterone goes up that's what we do we start to

fuck with each other and it's a lot of fun to see that you know yeah it's really really cool to see that but it's but I also now like I don't let him go on his computer in his room by himself and do all that shit but I also, now, I don't let him go on his computer in his room by himself and do all that shit because I mean, I remember when I was out, when that shit started hitting me, like God forbid, I had access to the internet. Yeah, how do you police that with phones and stuff like that? You're not allowed to have his computer anywhere where he's in his room with the door closed or he can't take it in the bathroom or anything like that. That's what I would be doing. You guys fucking laugh. That's what kids do.

Oh, I got kids take that shit in the bathroom. I told you. I mean I printed it. It doesn't mean like when the internet first came out. Now it has it. What was the first time you caught that? Did you catch him like walking to the bathroom with his laptop? Like you guys like son out of some work in here. You know, so what are you doing? Have you caught that? I don't know if you've seen anything or purposely looked up anything. I know he has a lot of friends.

And here's the thing, when you're a kid, especially when you're a young boy, 12, 13, 14, then it really starts to get crazy. But when you have a group of friends, there's always that one or two guys. That's out of the week. That's ahead of everything. friends, there's always that one or two guys. That are the lead. That's ahead of everything. Yeah, that's right.

They got older brothers. Exactly. And so my son's the oldest in our family, right? So he didn't have an older brother who's gonna show him the shit. But he does have friends who have older brothers. And so those are the ones I'm like, and I can, you know, and I know they cuss.

I know that they cuss to each other because I've heard him playing video games and they'll be on that, you know, that they'll talk to each other. And I'll hear his they cuss to each other because I've heard him playing video games and they'll be on that, you know, that, well, they'll talk to each other. And I'll hear, and I'll hear his friends cuss and he'll look at me and I'll laugh. And I told him we had a conversation. I said, look, I don't care if you guys cuss just around each other, but definitely don't do it around your sister and don't do it around other younger kids and don't do it around your teachers because you'll get fucking big trouble. I said, and also, you You know he said fucking fuck it And I said and damn it and learn and learn like I told him I said using bad words, you know, it's not It's not cool if you just use them all the time like learn how to use them

What are we have this conversation, but I'm gonna put parental controls on this computer and you're not allowed to that's That reminds me like the group that used to hang out with fucking, they would use fucking for everything, right? Because it's cool. Because you just like could use it, so you would put it in like every single conversation. It was like, I told you guys about my, I was only in third grade when I got in trouble for swearing.

I was in third grade and we were playing Wiffle Ball out in front and that, you know, that was back when the, is it like Wiffle Ball? Wiffle Ball? Yeah. Wiffle Ball. in front. And that, you know, that was back when the, is it like with a wolf? Wiffle Ball? Yeah. Wiffle Ball. You can't see, you can't see, you can't see.

Yeah, can you say Wiffle Ball? There you go. There you go. I like, I like Wiffle Ball better. It's like a lazy tongue or something. Yeah. We're playing outside the principal's office and they had the window open and

That was at the a I just learned how to cut like you just started putting it together and I remember this so much Because I remember that you I would just you would swear and put them together all terrible Wouldn't even make sense, you know every time I missed the ball Wow fuck shit ball, but you know just yelling stuff and the window and man, this shit on this, Vice Principal girl comes out and she grabs me by my elbow and just yanks me and just pulls me in the office and call my mom. I did in-house suspension right for the day and my mom came down and where did you learn all that?

I learned it from you. Oh no, put her on blast, got her in trouble and stuff. When I remember the first time I started, no, okay. So I was a fishing with my grandpa. And like for some reason, I don't know what his problem was, but he hated catfish. Like he like had this weird like reaction. Like he would catch one because he like just wanted to catch trout. And so we were out there trying to catch trout and his little tin boat. And he catches like this this this big old catfish

And he just takes it off the hook and he's like Damn man, he's like damn it. He's like slamming this thing against the side of the boat and like kills it and throws it back in the water I was like whoa Like you don't like catfish, huh? You know and we get back in I remember like you talk about using the words like the wrong way, like we went bike riding and my brother like cut me off or something like that off and I was like, you damn head, like it feels like, you know, my parents and like, oh, I got spanked in front of me.

Did you really? It's bad, yeah. So when I was, let's see, I was speaking of getting spanked. This is another story. I'll tell you guys a hilarious. I was 13, so you know, again, and this is what I'm waiting for. I'm waiting for my son to hit the age where, and he's getting there now, where they start, you start to feel like cool, right? Like I'm fucking cool, I can't, like, okay, dad,

you can't spank me anymore, because I'm cool now, right? You guys remember that when you hit that age right? Oh yeah, you're not gonna do that. Yeah, so I would just look at him, right? They'd spank you and hit that age right? Oh yeah, you're not gonna do it. Yeah, so I would just look at it right? They'd spank you and you just look back like I was I was 13 or 14 maybe 14 years old and you know you think you're cool you're with the buddies and I'm playing basketball or whatever we're at the at the elementary school and my dad is he comes over and he's like, Sal, let's go we got to go and I'm like

whole I just put my finger up I I didn't even look at it. I'm like, hold on like I'm not like I'm with my boys. I'm like hold on, right? And my dad my dad fucking my dad walks over grabs the basketball from the game and throws at me Oh my god. Yeah, and from all my friends. He lost it He just he grabs it and he looks at me in my face. I look at him And he was, you with me. Yeah. Boom, right?

And I'm like, oh fuck. Oh no. And my friends are like, oh shit. And my dad's like, let's go. And I, yeah, totally like punked me in front of all my friends. But the first time I actually really cussed in front of my parents, I was actually old, I was 13 years old. And I was playing volleyball at a park.

It was a big family party, and I don't know exactly what happened. I jumped and I landed and my foot landed in like a divot or something. My knee twisted and my kneecap actually dislocated. So my kneecap was on the outside of my leg. So you hear this dry like crack, right? And I fall down, and then I look down at my knee,

and if you've ever seen a dislocated kneecap, it looks horrible, looks really bad. Like it's like my kneecap's here on the side. So like there's nothing in the front and the skin is all stretched. And I'm like, oh, fuck! And so I proceed and hurt, right? So I proceed to cuss until the ambulance gets there.

I'm like, fuck, fuck! fuck, and everybody's circle around me. And my mom comes down and she kneels by me and she's like, she knows I'm in pain and she tells me in my ears, she goes, watch your language, watch your language. And I'm like, fuck, fuck, and I keep cussing and my cousin is looking at me up in the back behind someone else.

He's looking at me like, stop cussing. And I didn't realize I was saying all these bad words until the ambulance came and gave me some morphine. Yeah, and then I had a nice talking too. But that's, that was the first time. Oh man, Douglas bring on the cussin bird. Fucking, motherfucker, shit fuck. What?

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MindPumpACheckOut for 10% off! It's the motherfucking squad! An English Landish! Quee-qua-weep! Our first question is from Dudley underscore. What's the difference between conventional and sumo deadlifts? When should you use one or the other or should you phase both? That's a good question.

Yeah, so one of them is done in a conventional style. The other one is more of a sumo. No, but I think that, I think where if you look at this up, like if you Google it and you start trying to figure this out, most of the stuff you'll read will talk about, you know, different people will be able to do one of the other better, right? For example, like some people, like I know Lane

does a sumo stance, right? Like that is he competes at that level, he trains at that level. I don't even know if I've ever seen him do a conventional deadlift before. So, and because he's in a sport of powerlifting, you wanna continue to keep doing. As you can go with this strong.

Yeah, exactly. That was already naturally strong for you. So you want to keep doing that, right? Over and over and over. So because you want to get good at it. Now, when you're somebody who is training for aesthetics or overall performance or even mobility and functionality, doing both is ideal.

And intermittently. So I pull a lot better conventional deadlift. and functionality, doing both is ideal. And intermittently, so I pull a lot better conventional deadlift, that's just natural for me. But I sumo deadlift all the time, but I intermittently put it into my routine so that I get the benefits of training in that way because it is awkward for me. And I want to challenge my body that way.

I'm not going to PR sumo because it feels awkward and uncomfortable in comparison to conventional, but there are many benefits to do. Sumo squatting and Sumo deadlifting are staple exercises that I actually put into routines for other people when I'm training them because I have found that most people,

your glute meat is responsible for that external rotation of the femur, so putting your toes out in a sumo position for whether you're squatting or deadlifting is different and awkward for a lot of people. And a lot of the times when you see a person squat just normally, their knees cave in and they pronate. And most of the time, that's because they don't have a lot of connection to their glute meat and don't activate that properly in the squat

or the deadlift and teaching them a sumo squat or a sumo deadlift helps people activate that more and get better control. And then I've noticed that I've been able to help people with the pronating of their foot because they're not activating and turning on their gloom heat. So that's a huge benefit of incorporating sumos if you don't do them.

I know where, so here's why there's a lot of confusion with these two, with conventional sumo deadlifts. The confusion is because of powerlifting, because in powerlifting, when you do a deadlift, they allow you to pick one or the other. They're interchangeable. And because of that, we've come to the conclusion, this kind of unsaid conclusion that they're both the same.

That, oh, I deadlift, and nobody asks you, is it conventional or sumo? It'd be like me saying, oh, I do lift and nobody asks you, is it conventional or sumo? It'd be like me saying, oh, I do squats, but I do front squats. The reality is, and this might even be controversial. I bet you I'm gonna get a lot of people who are gonna make some- I already know where you're going,

they're very different movements. They're different exercises. Very much so. And I'm sure it's gonna sound controversial to some people. Oh, I mean, break it down mechanically. When you do, think about where, when you do a wide sumo stance, it requires you now. It's totally different.

It's a totally different recruitment process. Yes, total different. I mean, you are, in both of them, you are using a lot of the posture of your chain, of course. Yeah. But it's, you're using more hips with conventional. You're getting, you need to have more flexibility in your hips in different ways. With the conventional, you're getting more ere need to have more flexibility in your hips in different ways.

With the conventional, you're getting more erector spinae, you're getting a different activation in the lower body. They're two different exercises, so I think you should treat them as both. Now, do they have a carryover to each other? They do, but just like a front squat, we'll have a carryover to back squat and vice versa. There's gonna be some carryover, but that doesn't mean that they're interchangeable.

I don't like it when people say they're interchangeable because they're both two different exercises. Now, when I would recommend, first of all, in the grand scheme of things, if you're doing all kinds of different exercises and mobility work and all that stuff, then you can pick one and you'll probably be okay. But if you're more advanced, you've been working out for a while, my advice is to focus on one sometimes and focus on the other one sometimes. Sometimes in the same work I'm even adding the hex bar. You know, I'm like adding different options.

I'm a big believer in challenging the angles as a variable as well, right? So if I'm going to do this, you know, bilateral type loaded situation, like if I can adjust where my foot position is and really work on the mechanics from that and start ramping my way up again, you know, from that angle, I feel like then that also contributes. So it's just, it's a matter of like, having a focus and going through a phase of that three to four weeks or whatever you sort of determine. And then, you know, switch out and work on, you know, another skill in a different angle. Now, biomechanically speaking, if we just look at biomechanics and leverage, the sumo deadlift should be the stronger lift for, I think, pretty much anybody. It should be, but for whatever

reason, I've heard different experts explain why this is not the case in reality, in real life, but it's supposed to be. Now, I know in reality, in real life, especially taller lifters, tend to do better conventional. I'm one of them. I lift way more weight, conventional than I can zoom. I can pull five plates right now, pretty much at any time, conventional sumo. I'd have to train sumo for a little while before I can do that. There's in the appeal of sumo that you're not really short range of motion.

Yes, short range. It's more biomechanically advantageous for the body. I know women tend to like sumo over conventional, shorter lifters tend to like sumo over conventional, shorter lifters tend to like sumo over conventional. In powerlifting competition, they're interchangeable, so obviously pick the one that you're strong rap. But if you're training to get stronger overall, to build muscle overall, then you should

do both. And I mean, the way I would program it, and we didn't put, we didn't program like maps and a ball, like for example, calls for a deadlift and I don't specify in there between conventional or sumo and people can pick, but when you get a little more advanced, the way I would do it is I would go, I would do a whole like 12 week cycle where I'm phasing, you know, like three phases,

so like a strength hypertrophy and then a more of a strength endurance phase, so like 12 week mega phase or whatever you want to call it macro phase. And then I would do that with conventional, then I'd go back around and then I'd stick to sumo because what happens and what you notice is when you get stronger at a particular movement, you'll typically see a corresponding muscle growth. When you try a new variation of that movement, you'll see it, you'll be weaker, but then there's so much more potential

in terms of growth, and then you'll see, more muscle growth. So I've actually tested this, I've done this where, I conventional deadlift for a long time, then I go to Sumo, and I'm like stuck at LLK, I'll just start with 315 because I need to get used to this. And then I'll work up to 475 plates on the Sumo, and I'll notice more muscle

than I had before because I've had to get that recruitment pattern. So I say both of them. Oh, absolutely. There's a lot of different way. This is also why we encourage the interchanging of exercises, why the YouTube channel is designed to mirror the programs, to teach people other movements that they can interchange

in the within the program. I actually have used it like this, where when I'm running through any of our maps programs where we're going through a strength phase, I lean towards the one that I'm stronger at, because I can push myself. I feel safer pushing myself with five plates and beyond in a conventional stance.

I don't feel comfortable pushing myself five plates in on sumo. And so I incorporate the sumo deadlifts when I start getting in the higher rep range where I'm using a lighter weight and I feel I can focus more mechanically on what I'm doing. Now, I think that there's huge benefits to what Sal said by doing a whole cycle that and I think that would be great. But again, this is what's fun about programming and playing with these type of things, I think without a doubt, if you're not doing both of them, you are for sure missing out.

In my experience, I have shaped a ton of butts using sumo deadlifts. I, it's very common that I would train a female client who could come to me and say, Adam, I'm gonna work on my butt. And when I teach them a sumo deadlift, they're like, I've never done that before in my life. And I right away know that I'm gonna give them

a whole new look to their butt that they've never seen. Because that's a part of the glute that a lot of people do not activate. There's not a lot of movement. At least not in that way. No, exactly. There's not a lot of... It's like caustic squats are you going to, you know, a lot of movement. At least not in that way. No, exactly, there's not a lot of... It's like, caustic squats are going, you know,

like lateral lunges. Right, right. And so it's, it literally, and the way, where the glute mead sits or the part of it that is part of your glute, it really gives that shape to, like so if I have a girl who has kind of a, and a guy, this counts for guys too,

I'm just speaking to women because I've had more women come to me asking specifically for help in building their ass. Is you get like these narrow hips where they don't have a lot of width to their butt or you can see it from the front. And when you really start to build the glute meat, you start to see that three-dimensional. Yeah, it creates a three, it does create a three-dimensional ass and it does add a lot more shape to it. And so if you're somebody who is looking for the aesthetic piece, like, this has to be in your training if you're trying to build that lower half.

So if you're guy or a girl looking to build a butt, you got to get those sumo squats and deadlifts out there. Yeah. So another thing too, the way I've used in the past, when I'm trying to, because I love deadlifting, and for a little while there, I was just trying to push and see how much weight I could lift. And when I would get to a sticking point, is when I would do a cycle of something else.

So when I'd get to a sticking point with conventional, I would do sumo for a while. And then when I'd see my strength go up, up, up, up, up, with sumo, and I started to slow down there, then I'd go back to conventional. And that same thing with the, with the trap bar, or the hex bar. And then when I'd see my strength go up, up, up, up, up with Sumo and I started to slow down there, then I'd go back to conventional. And that same thing with the, with the trap bar or the hex bar. In fact, I pulled 600 pounds trap bar away before I was able to pull it with a straight

bar, but I would, but that was definitely a play to roll and my ability to be able to pull that much weight conventional. And when I got my Sumo up to five plates, that's when I was getting my conventional into the high fives, when I was able to do that. So for the people listening right now, I really want to build strength. Like if you're stuck at your deadlift, you know, switch to the other style, whether you're already sumo, go to conventional, if you're conventional, go sumo, train like that for a while, start slow, by the way.

I want to be clear, like, don't go fucking ripping some heavy ass weight because you'll hurt yourself. Start slow, give yourself some weeks to build up. But once you start pulling some pretty good weight with that new style, go back to your old style, see what happens. That tip you just gave is the reason why

I normally recommend it in the third phase in a phase where we're doing 10 repetitions or more. So you know you have to go a lighter weight and so it kind of forces people to lighten up and go focus more mechanically. Quick commercial break, hey people ask us all the time how they can support mind pump. Here's what you can do. You can go to www.brain.fm-mindpump and get 20% off brain FM for meditation or focus. You can also go to audibletrial.com forward slash mind pump and get a 30 day trial plus one free audio book.

Lastly, you can go to goodgetnatureblend.com forward slash mind pump and you will get a discount on Ben Greenfield CBD product. Jennifer 831, can you talk about cortisol? What it is, what effects it has, and what you can do to keep it at a healthy level. Cortisol, evil cortisol, right? Everybody talks about bad names. Yeah, everybody talks about cortisol as it being this horrible, dangerous hormone, it's stress hormone, it causes muscle loss, fat, you know, gain all these things. Cortisol is a very, very, very important hormone in the body. It helps regulate blood sugar, it helps regulate the immune system, it helps metabolize

fat proteins and carbohydrates. It gives you energy. You naturally should have a spike in cortisol in the morning when you first wake up. In fact, there's a lot of functional medicine doctors will test you for this. And if they see that your cortisol levels are too low in the morning, then they think maybe you have some issues with your HPA access, excuse me, and then you just start working on it. So cortisol itself, again, it'll raise in response to stress. If it's continuously elevated all the time, you can have some negative effects. But I think what we're starting to discover is it's not so much

the cortisol levels that we need to be careful for. It's becoming losing sensitivity to it. Like we would with insulin when we start to get diabetes. And this is very fascinating. So it's the constant spike of it versus actually having it. Right, so in the past, for example, or even now you still hear this, you still hear the term adrenal fatigue.

And I know a lot of Western medicine doctors laugh at that. I think, in fact, I think Lane had a doctor, Lane Norton had a doctor on a friend of his who made fun of the term adrenal fatigue because there's no evidence that the adrenals get fatigued and that your body stops producing hormones like cortisol. But I think what's happened is we've observed the side effects or symptoms of too much constant levels of stress, which is constant fatigue, inability to get your body revved up.

All the symptoms that you would associate with adrenal fatigue and so the name did adrenal fatigue is they had a theory around it. But I think what may be happening is because people have these constant elevated levels of cortisol that their body becomes insensitive to it and their receptors start to downregulate, not unlike what happens with resistance to things

like leptin or to insulin. And so in those particular cases, you'll find people requiring higher and higher doses of stimulants to, and that by the way is a good, that's a somewhat decent way of knowing that your body may be dealing with some cortisol resistance, is that you need more and more artificial forms of, you know, quote unquote, artificial forms of cortisol. For example, if you absolutely need coffee in the morning, not that you enjoy it, but you have to have it or you're dead tired all day long.

This is like all sounding like me. Yeah, it could mean that your body's becoming insensitive to cortisol. So you're in the morning, you're getting your cortisol spike, but your body's becoming insensitive to cortisol. So you're in the morning, you're getting your cortisol spike, but your body's just not responding to it. So you're having to supplement it with, you know, all this, all this other cortisol. It's interesting.

Yeah, just because I think I told you guys a long time ago, I had to have my, one of my adrenal glands removed because they had a tumor on it. And then like, I know it's probably not related, but like ever since then, it's felt like this, you know, constant battle for me, you know, with trying to get energy and trying to get this, exactly how you're kind of describing,

like what levels you should be at the morning. It's like so bad at the morning for me. Like in comparison to the rest of my entire day, so that's something I should definitely look into. I mean, it really does, too, you know, manage the immune system as well. It's, you know, it is anti-inflammatory. It's an anti-inflammatory.

Now, too much of it all the time can cause lots of problems, but having too low cortisol is not a good thing. What's your thoughts on, like, you know, supplements, like Rishi or Ashwin Gonda, that's like in our Organifi supplement, like, do things like this benefit somebody who has issues with cordial. So here's why I like certain supplements

or certain herbs that are considered adaptogens. In that, I like them because they don't directly lower cortisol, in the sense that I can't give you this and just slam your cortisol down. What they do do is they help your body be kind of homeostasis. So if you have constant high levels of cortisol and you're in this constantly stressed state, then we do see a depression in cortisol. If you're in this state with low cortisol all the time, they actually may help raise it. They help balance it. Ashwagandha is a great supplement for this. I know the green juice has

some of this in there. And I would consider the green juice just based on what's in there to be a decent, you know, adaptogenic type supplement. Do you think that's because I was you're asking me because I've been really consistent with taking it now for a lot of time. You were saying you noticed more energy from that? Yeah, that's right. And it's not a stimulant. There's no stimulants in there. Yeah, no, but I, I, I, I've, I feel really good. And it, and it doesn't feel like a caffeine high or energy.

It just feels this good, sustained, even killed. It's interesting you mentioned that, because I was attributing it to, maybe I, my consumption of vegetables wasn't as as high enough like my serving size amount, you know And so I was like kind of going through that like maybe you know, that's why I'm feeling more energetic But you know, maybe it's also well like that's not I'm thinking the same thing to though It could be because that's how I supplement and use it as I typically base it off of okay How am I doing as far as my my green intake and that for example? That's why I was doing

one to two of them every day when I was on the boat, was because it was like, I can't, there was no vegetables out there whatsoever, so I want to make sure I was getting that. And so I was looking at more like a micronutrient deficiency and making sure I'm getting everything I need, but I'm wondering if it maybe have some sort of a knowing our lifestyle, all of us in this room, and the way we work, and then how busy our lives are, and how active our minds are, I would not, that's what I would bet.

I would bet that it's probably balancing out your system a little bit, and acting as an adaptive genic. I mean, what we have to remember is that the body, when it's balanced, you're gonna operate your best at all things. You're just gonna feel your best, and it's gonna feel like when it's balanced, you're going to operate your best at all things. You're just going to feel your best. And it's going to feel like it's different than stimulant energy. Like, I know the difference between having a good dose of caffeine or another stimulant versus

having this natural kind of energy. Well, yeah, because you'll get jittery and it's like, you know, you get like overly stimulated and you really don't feel good, doesn't feel like good like productive energy anyways. Right, it's not a hyper energy, it's just, you feel good and feel healthy type of energy and that's what you want when your body's balanced out. So yeah, they, you know, Ashwaganda, Rishi, does this, there's other daptogenic herbs, I know Siberian ginseng, for some people will do that.

There's other mushrooms that can do the same thing. But again, the reason why I like the way these work is if you give ashwagandha to an otherwise healthy person, they're not gonna see major changes. You're gonna see it if you're stressed out. Here's some clues, by the way, to knowing that you may have some kind of a dysfunction in that kind of HPA access or maybe having some kind of cortisol resistance.

If you find yourself needing more and more stimulants, if you find that you have sleep disruptions even though you're exhausted, so you can be very, very tired but then find yourself waking up in the middle of the night or not, like, God, I'm tired, but I can't get a good night of sleep or you do get sleep and you wake up and you still feel tired. There's also some behavioral effects that people are speculating. For example, you may place yourself in stressful situations, not realizing that what you're seeking is a cortisol release because you need more cortisol. For example, people with cortisol resistance or adrenal fatigue, whatever you wanna call it,

will find themselves being late more often to appointments. And that's literally because when you're late to something, you get a little high, oh fuck, I'm late and you get this kind of, you get a little bit of a cortisol spike, you know, it's funny, yeah. So subconsciously you end up doing that. You sabotizing yourself, you get up.

You are also, a lot of times you'll seek out higher intensity workouts. And we know this because, as, yes, you've got these people that are these high stress states that are living on 15 cups of coffee a day, and the kind of workout that they think they feel best doing is the super high intensity spin class or whatever. And if you tell them, hey, that's not good for you, they'll argue with you and be like,

I feel so great afterwards. The reason why you feel so great right after is because you've just pushed your body, you squeeze out more cortisol. And now you feel normal because you have all these down regulated receptors to cortisol. But in reality, what you're doing is you're just kicking the can down the road and you're making the problem worse and worse and worse till when you get to the point where nothing is going to do that for you. So cortisol is an important hormone to look at, but so are all the other hormones. Yeah.

Two little isn't good, two high isn't good. And having it high at the wrong times isn't good either. Yeah. They all work together. You have to have them. Next question is from FoxyLifts. How effective are neutropics for someone with ADHD? Oh, yeah. The moderate synthetic one?

I guess any neutropics, but maybe we could talk about, yeah, let's talk about all of them, the synthetic and the, you know, here's the interesting thing about 80 HD and 80D. Diagnosis for both of them has skyrocketed. Well, it didn't exist. This self-diagnosis. How many years ago did it not exist?

It was in that long ago. When we were kids, when we were kids, it first started kind of becoming a thing. Does that mean it doesn't exist? No, I think, I think 80D and ADHD exist. However, and this is my own personal experience, both working with kids. It's kind of like wandering uterus.

Yep. That I saw your first day of the day. Did you say? Yeah. That was an old diagnosis from a, they used to call it a hysteria. I was one of the books I've been just talked about, the evolution of the solely side track here, right?

But it just made me think of that. Because I was thinking about things that we diagnosed people with that like we laughed out 20 years or 50 years or 100 years later, right? Like is this gonna be something that we kind of chuckle about like you, it's we just were fucking distracted as fuck because of all these electrical devices and this and that.

I wonder if this will be one of those things. So back in the late 1800s, you know, if women had hysteria, nervousness, anxiety, so that they would diagnose them with wandering uterus and then you would see the doctor and the doctor would do like the master. Yes, the doctor would use a vibrator. The doctor would use a vibrator. Well, first he'd do it manually, he'd help her orgasm, and then the evolution of the vibrator was they created this tool where they would use the vibrator on her to help her get an orgasm. And they did that for many years. It was extremely.

It was making all kinds of appointments. And what the only reason why it stopped was because companies came out later and approved the at home version, the battery operated at home version, which was actually one of the first five electrical appliances that you could buy up there with toasters, like things like that, and women around the world rejoiced. Well, you could buy it for $5 and back then, a doctor visit and your orgasm through your doctor would cost you

about $3 for the visit, $2 for your orgasm, and it would be- That's true. So now you could get that at home as many times as you possibly want. And so it's convenient. So it pretty much dissolved this whole wandering uterus that existed for me.

Oh, good. Yeah. So I don't want those uterus. And it was very successful at treating hysteria and wandering uterus. Yeah. Yeah, very effective. I'm sure.

Lots of good feedback. You imagine that you're with your girlfriend or your wife or whatever and you're like, you know what honey, you're being hysterical. You're a vibrator. You would take care of yourself real quick. That'll make you better. I'm using that.

It works in our household. Anytime Katrina's irritated, it's like, you can go into the drawer. I knock out an orgasm or two for you. Do we need little time? Always see me happy at it. It seems it's really well. So yeah, 80D, 80HD.

Here, my thoughts on it are, I think it exists, but I also think we're over diagnosing the fuck out of it. I think there's a lot of kids and a lot of adults with shitty diets, low activity, poor sleep. And by the way, do you know what some of the symptoms of having a poor diet, low activity, poor sleep. And by the way, do you know what some of the symptoms of having a poor diet, low activity, and poor sleep are? Exactly the same symptoms you'll find with ADD and ADHD. And there are many, there are several studies now that show getting kids to exercise, reducing their consumption of certain foods in particular sugars, processed,

highly processed foods, you all of a sudden notice better concentration and all those different types of things. Before we talk about supplemental treatments for ADD and ADHD, these single most effective things you could do to help yourself with your inability to concentrate is, get good sleep, eat better, and move, and you'll find all of a sudden,

holy fuck, I can concentrate. Look, I've been diagnosed with ADD. I got diagnosed with the whole thing. Well, this is another one of those situations where we're not addressing the root cause. Leave it to Western medicine to diagnose you with something like ADHD, wandering uterus, whatever the fuck it is, and we want to prescribe something to for that exact, you know, acute issue when in reality, we're not addressing what the root cause probably is. So it's not to say that your kid does or doesn't have ADHD very well.

He could be and that could be a fair diagnosis, but really instead of giving him some sort of pills or neutropics or supplement or something for that, trying to figure out what is causing the ADHD, which like you said, even then I get kind of a little controversial with my thought process with, you know, especially with kids and like that being the environment that they have to abide by. Like, is there sitting in class and, you know, it's a kid that like needs to move like,

like they have all this energy and you're trying to stifle that and get them to just focus on this one thing. They're a kid. They're a kid and they got all this, let's get them to move more. They're decreasing activity for recess. They're decreasing extracurricular sports like all this and they want them to be a better student.

Like, that doesn't make any fucking sense. You know, you know, one of the other characteristics of 80-D or 80-HDS, the ability to hyperfocus. No joke. I'm not making this up. Like, kids or adults with 80-D or 80-HDS have been diagnosed. Also have the ability to hyperfocus on something. Right. Find something they love and watch how fucking amazing that gets.

Right. Right. To the point where you could fucking blow, you know, you could fire a gun next to them and then we even recognize it because they're so focused on what they're doing. Yeah. So, and when we, look, it used to be called Ram Bunches, so used to be called, you know, energetic or art.

Yeah, you know, that that's abstract. And more, far more boys, far more boys. I don't know what the exact number is, but far more boys are diagnosed with these two things than girls, and part of it is that the fucking classroom and modern lifestyle is designed is better for girls. That's gonna be a controversial subject, but it's fucking true.

It's very true, it's been proven in many psychological studies that boys have a tougher time sitting down and being in these like traditional school environments. They do better moving and you know touching and doing types of things. Kids in general tend to learn that way. So I think you're right, Justin, you put people in this environment and you're gonna want to fucking go crazy and then now fast forward to modern lifestyle as an adult. It mirrors it. You're sitting at your desk all day long,

you're eating shitty food, you're distracted at lunch on your phone, you probably get crappy sleep. Like, I would venture to say, a huge majority of your issues, if you have these 80-D or 80-D HD, will be solved with, or can be mitigated with those types of things.

That all being said, I, like, as an adult, I diagnosed with ADD and it was basically for fun. Like, I went to the doctor and there was this, no joke. No joke, no joke. There was a poster in our office. I went for something else, I remember what it was for. There was a poster in our office.

Do you have the following symptoms? You may have adult ADD. And I'm in there and I'm thinking like, I wanna get some rid of it. Like I heard that shit's fun. I'm not bullshit. I'm drug seekers. So I sat in the office and I said,

hey, I think I have ADD. Now, if I think about it, I do fit the category of ADD. I am one of those people that can totally, you guys know me. Hyper foggy. Yeah, you guys know me. I can totally do it.

I was distracted. So I said, Squirrel. So I told the doctor that, and so the doctor had me do a questionnaire. And I fucking, like I think nine of the 10 questions. She's like, oh yeah, you definitely do. Here try this.

And I'm like, oh cool, I'm gonna get my hands on some legal meth, right? Cause that's what those try this. And I'm like, oh cool, I'm gonna get my hands on some legal meth, right? Cause that's what those drugs are. And instead she gave me some other bullshit that made me feel crappy and then I never went back. But, oh man. But that's how it was. That's how kind of easy it was.

And if I think about it, the characteristics that I have that also make me have ADD, are the characteristics that make me really fucking good at the things I do. Right, totally. You know what I'm saying? Like podcasting or working in a gym and selling memberships and promoting and leading a team and doing those types of things.

Like, I think those characters are really good. So that all being said, can new tropics help with ADD? Anything that is going to give you a dopamine boost theoretically should help you with focus if you have ADD or ADHD because They've identified a that a dopamine dysfunction is at the root cause what they think the root cause of ADD and ADHD so then what's your thoughts on something like that when we're just got done talking about cortisol and caffeine and pairing the

Neutrophics like we do with our chimeric coffee that we're attached to. What are your thoughts on someone like that that has ADHD that is incorporating the coffee that has the natural ones in there? Caffeine will definitely, caffeine is a classic way to boost, to help people with ADD and ADHD symptoms. Anything that's going to be, like I said, any of's gonna release, release, excuse me, dopamine and cause that release in the brain is gonna help people get that focus. But I'll tell you what, all the supplements, none of them are gonna compare to what I just said with nutrition exercise.

I mean, it makes such a fucking big difference to do those things. And here's a thing too with neutropics, especially the synthetic ones, is you build a patallarance to them. So, I can have caffeine and become more focused with it, but if I have caffeine all the time, not only do I start losing the effect,

but I start getting negative effects, and then I start to get worse focus with caffeine. So like, I'm fucked if I have it, and I fucked if I Not have it and I gotta let myself you know my my receptors for it down regulating all that stuff. So I mean interesting topic I guarantee we're gonna piss some people off because I know there's people who are parents of children Mm-hmm. And as a parent the last thing you want to hear is that you're giving your kid a drug for something that can be solved with your parenting, because that's what they hear.

But I didn't say it was easy, right? Having your kid, especially today's, having them eat a certain way, by the way, your kids can also be affected by certain dies and preservative food that can cause 80D and 80HD like symptoms in kids. I had a kid that I trained who had to stay away from red, that can cause 80D and 80HD like symptoms in kids. I had a kid that I trained who had to stay away

from red dye number 50, I believe it was. Oh wow. Anything with that, and he was fucking. No way. Yeah dude, he was a 10 year old kid and his mom told me, and even the doctor had recognized it. If he had anything with this red dye, he would get really bad, 80D and 80HD.

So, do they do like an elimination dye? Yeah, identify that. That's it, they with this red dye, he would get really bad, 80D and 80HD. So, do they do like an elimination dye? Yeah, identify that. That's it. They do an elimination dye and they test it several times. That is in that such like, which the best protocol for a lot of people. And you didn't recommend that, which I think you have to for things like this.

When you're trying to get down to the root cause of what's flaring this up in your kid or yourself, if it's for yourself, is the elimination diet, I think is, if I can't get to the bottom of something with somebody who is like dealing with some sort of chronic issue or something like this, it's okay, well, let's do the elimination diet

and then we're gonna slowly introduce things and then pay close attention to. We are in a society that is a Medicaid society. It is a, let's get rid of this symptom with this pharmaceutical or whatever medication. And that is because the money is driven by that. So that's the direction of all the learning and the teaching. So it's kind of, on the one hand, it's awesome

that we figured out ways to mitigate symptoms, but on the other hand, it has forced us to ignore the cures for these root problems. And you have to ask yourself, if I have these symptoms, and I solve and I help fix that symptom with a medication, I haven't changed what is causing that thing to happen in the first place. And I should look there.

I should look to that. You just keep continually treating the symptoms. I'm telling you, they do studies on depression, on mild to moderate depression. Mild to moderate depression treated with exercise and nutrition and head to head trials does as well, and then better in the long term than SSRI drugs and for mild to moderate depression.

Yet, there's a tremendous amount of people that are prescribed SSRIs, which have a whole host of different side effects, not to mention behavioral changes. That's the thing you want to understand, too. When you're taking these medications that are altering your brain chemistry, in very subtle ways, it is changing your behavior. So in very subtle ways, it is changing who you are. And especially when you're a kid, when the brain is developing, some of these changes can be long-term.

They're impactful, yeah. They can be. So there's very few symptoms that you won't see a tremendous improvement upon by fixing the three things that I said nutrition exercise and sleep You work on those three things and you should see a dramatic reduction in most of your chronic symptoms Quick commercial break you guys we keep getting asked all the time How can I support the mine pump family? Here's one of the best ways you guys can you guys love that chimeric coffee that we have Chimeric coffee with a K you go to chimeric coffee coffee.com, put in the discount code MindPump for 10%

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keeling, or rock. This is the only reason why I feel like this is a good question is for the vegetable side of things because I think there is a big myth around. Well, the carcinogens and like, you know, help everybody. Oh, you're going on a part of it? Yeah, well, I was just thinking like,

as you know, you brought up Dr. McCollan how he like, he know, how everybody's scared of. Oh, you're gonna be arguing? Yeah, well, I was just thinking like, because, you know, you brought up Dr. McCollum and how he like, he boils, right? He seems, and he won't like, yeah. Yeah, there's the whole, like, if you cook something over a flame, that produces carcinogens in the food and therefore that's not a good way to prepare your food. So it's better to prepare in ways that don't produce carcinogens.

Now the way I look at it is, that's probably the way we cooked all of our food for most of human civilization. So we evolved, I don't, how else did we prepare our meat, you know what I mean when we were cavemen? We had to burn it to kill all the bacteria. Well, not just the bacteria,

but to make it digestible. Well, that too, yeah. The reason why we're able to consume, as humans, consume the amount of meat that we are, that we do consume is because we cook it. If we didn't cook it, like, try and go eat raw red meat, you'll get a little bit,

and then the rest of, if you eat too much, you'll make yourself sick, because you can't, you didn't break it down, with cooking. So, there's a lot of that controversy when it comes to cooking food that I don't necessarily buy. Yeah. Same thing with, that's why I say this is a splitting hair thing for me.

Yeah. And the only time I talk about it to somebody is that because there's a lot of stuff around raw vegetables, you get so much more nutrients. And I know you've addressed this before on the show that, yeah, sure, you get so much more nutrients. And I know you've addressed this before on the show that yeah, sure, you get more nutrients from raw vegetables than you do from boiling or steaming your vegetables, but then you can digest and eat more of the ones that are boiled so that it's a wash. So if somebody who eats three cups of raw vegetables,

your body is not gonna be able to fully assimilate all of that versus somebody who has one to two cups or three cups of that boil, he's going to be able to assimilate all of that. And here's something else you want to consider if food intolerance is, sometimes you can have an intolerance to a food if it's raw, but you won't have an intolerance to it if you cook it. And so this is true for like eggs, for example. Is it more example that is it more common that direction than the other direction. Uh, more common that you'll have.

It's more common that you'll have an intolerance to something that's raw. Then if it's cooked like a, um, uh, God, the nightshade vegetables, right? Like eating a raw tomato for some people will destroy their gut. But if you cook it in sauce, then it just, it, because the cooking process destroys that whatever your're in front of. And the way you would know that is if you're somebody has an intolerance because you have the tomato versus someone

who's like, catch up, because catch up, they go through the whole boiling process of cooking the catch up. Yeah, I'm like that with certain vegetables. So like raw spinach, I can handle a certain amount, but not a ton, because then it bothers me. Cooked spinach, I can eat a fuck ton of it, and it's not a problem.

And like you said, your ability to assimilate the food makes a big difference as well. But there are benefits. There are benefits to eating some things raw. Most wellness experts will say it's good to have a variety. So here we go. It's like that's always the answer, right? That's always the answer. Like, having a variety, cooking your food in a variety of different ways is going to

probably yield you a benefit in lots of different ways. Like boiling your vegetables, you're probably going to be able to eat a lot more of them. You'll get a lot more fiber, it's a lot more digestible. Raw, you're going to get more intact enzymes and certain nutrients. Cooking your meat over a barbecue might have some benefits and detriment versus boiling it versus baking it. So I would say there's definitely most likely a benefit to doing a variety of them, but in particular with vegetables.

I try to have a little bit of raw vegetables every day, but most of the vegetables that I eat are either steamed or boiled. My meat is almost always baked in the oven or barbecue. I've never really prepared. You guys ever boil meat? I do. When you boil meat, I actually boil meat a lot.

I boil meat or crock pot meat a lot. Well, not a lot. Like crock pot. Yeah, but I actually like, so one of my favorite dishes to do that did this a lot when well not a lot. Like, yeah, yeah, pretty, but I actually like, so one of my favorite dishes to do that did this a lot when I was competing is we would boil a huge pot of chicken and then we shred the chicken. And then you showed me this a long time ago.

Yeah, I shred the chicken, season it a little bit and then I do like, I basically make a burrito bowl without, so I use the chicken, the rice, avocado, and a little bit of green salsa. That was like a staple meal of mine when I was competing because it was a taste amazing. And the boiled chicken, it like makes the chicken really, really soft and easy to eat,

and then it's easy to shred. So yeah, no, I boil meat, I eat a lot of raw shishimi, so I do a lot of raw salmon,imi, so I do a lot of raw salmon, but then I also cook a ton. So I boil, I barbecue, I steam, I bake, I literally cook my food. All what I don't buy into is camps on this. Like, oh, don't do something like the macollad diet.

I love Dr. Maccola, but then I'm also not gonna be telling people to not cook their food over an open flame because I'm with you, Sal, that that well until you're worried about Wi-Fi Yeah, yeah, there's your worry about Wi-Fi here on that level right there's levels of this and I mean even at the level that I've gotten as far as you know Being particular about my food and rotating and things there's so many other things that I can do to Make my diet better than worrying about am I baking or boiling this today? I think where you get into any sort of danger of you become somebody who is in a camp where all you do is only boil your food or all you do is only eat raw this or never eat raw

and you always, so I think the right answer is to just to rotate as much as possible. From a nutritional, because the real question is does this matter nutritionally, you're really splitting hairs on the difference. What's the difference between a raw salmon, protein-wise versus salmon that has been barbecued or baked? The amount of nutrients or protein, because you've heard people say, oh, you cook all the protein out if you burn it, or if you have your steak well done versus having a medium rare, you're going to cook all the protein out. You're not going to cook all the protein out. Like, no, you're not gonna cook all the protein out. By having, even though I wouldn't recommend having a Katrina Ruins

or steak like that. Well done. Yeah, it's easy to do. We go to a fancy restaurant. I will make fun of you. We go to a fancy restaurant. I do every time. And when she orders it, just ruin the steak for her place.

I just, just ruin the $50 steak by her right now. Flames everywhere on us. So, but she still gets plenty of protein in there. It's not even worth haggling over how much she's losing or not losing over cooking it, you know, well done or whatever. So, I don't think it's worth even discussing or getting into with a client or teaching people

other than that, you know, rotate. Probably the worst way to cook would be what? Frying, right? I would assume deep frying. But if you do do that, especially how you know, rotate. Probably the worst way to cook would be what? Frying, right? I would assume deep frying. But if you do do that, especially how you have to use. Yeah, you want to use a highly saturated fats, like you want to use like beef, talo, or lard,

or, you know, coconut oil maybe even. I don't think you can fry with coconut oil. You can't, huh? You can't fry with coconut oil, avocado oil. That's what you want to fry with like a legit, like animal fat. Yeah, because those are the only ones that are stable. Yeah, they're stable at that high temperature. Otherwise you can start to get fats that start to change

and become very inflammatory. Very inflammatory. So I would say, yeah, I would say frying is probably the one you wanna. For the most part, yeah. You can do it without it. It's pretty much, you can do it without completely. There's no need to fry. Let's put that way. You could do it without it. It's pretty much you could do it without completely. There's no need to fry.

Let's put that way. You can get all the benefits, because any sort of benefits you could potentially get from frying in some of the large, I mean, you could do that without negating a lot. Yeah, and you could do that without actually frying the foods. Yeah, cooking is interesting because, again, we're as humans as we evolve,

our brains became so massive and our jaws became smaller. And our digestive track is relatively short and small. And it's because we learned how to cook food. We learned how to pre-digest it with heat so that we could then eat it. And, you know, because we don't need three stomachs. Yeah, exactly, because, you know, the food, the nutrient content of food is important. It is, like raw vegetables, for sure,

have more nutrients than cooked vegetables do. But are you able to assimilate them? Are you able to take them into your body and process them? Is your body able to break them down? Like they would, if you cook cooked them and the answer is no. I mean, go ahead and, if you're listening right now, you want to do a little experiment, go try and eat two cups of raw broccoli and then make sure you're next to the toilet because you're going to have stomach pains, cramps, and you're probably crap yourself

because you can't digest all that fiber in that particular way. But could you eat two cups of cooked broccoli? There's a good chance you probably could. And as far as carcinogens are concerned, with the barbecuing, that's just one of those things that look exercise creates carcinogens in your body too. It causes inflammation and carcinogens, but we know that it's a healthy process.

So that's why I'm still, I'm decided that barbecuing is perfectly fine until I see an actual connection between, with good controls between barbecue. You did it for every single meal that you ever ate, you know, for years. Maybe then you've seen impact. I don't know. That's how we ate though, right?

I don't, I still don't even see that you'd have that much eating. I mean, would it, would it be even boil things in? We didn't have pots and pans in until later. No, it was all over a flame So yeah, I highly doubt Barbecueing is necessarily a bad thing unless maybe you're barbecuing on I don't know You know over some kind of weird charcoal or something that's or you know the fake what would you spray? The little liar fluid. Yeah, the lighter fluid. So there you go

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