Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 591: Benefits of Caffeine, How to Train with a Sled, the Brain Muscle Connection & MORE

Episode Date: September 8, 2017

Kimera-Quah! In this episode of Quah, sponsored by Kimera Koffee (kimerakoffee.com, code "mindpump" for 10% off), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about the optimal caffeine intake, how much is too much& the benefits to caffeine, not using our brains to their full capacity because we lose connection to muscles like the ones in our feet, their thoughts on the sled and where it fits into one’s workout and if entrepreneurship be taught. Guys talk about making love and music (3:15) Guys talk Black Mirror (6:43) Guys talk how tech/social media is changing so drastically (10:05) Critical thinking Media plays scare tactics on the population Distorted view of each other Conformation basis Guys talk mixing the green/red juice from Organifi (32:50) Justin taking the probiotic Sal taking turmeric pills Quah question #1 – What do you guys think is an optimal intake of caffeine? What are the benefits? How much is too much? (41:59) Enzyme CYP1A2 Metabolize caffeine more slowly Tolerance can be built very quickly Give yourself a schedule Quah question #2 – Do you think we do not lose our brain's full capacity because we lose connection to things like our feet? (54:37) Music and communication Exercise and movement Brain craves touch Quah question #3 – What do you think of the sled? Where does it fit into one’s workout? (1:05:12) Biomechanical issues Improve the squat Functional exercise in real life Low impact on your body Add volume and frequency Quah question #4 – Can entrepreneurship be taught? Can you spot one? When did you guys realize you were an entrepreneur? (1:11:03) Drive/energy Self confidence Low fear of failure Spot someone by their verbiage Way they talk about things Value autonomy  Don’t marry your ideas Would you like to be coached by Sal, Adam & Justin? You can get 30 days of virtual coaching from them for FREE at www.mindpumpmedia.com. Get our newest program, MAPS Prime Pro, which shows you how to self assess and correct muscle recruitment patterns that cause pain and impede performance and gains. Get it at www.mindpumpmedia.com! Get MAPS Prime, MAPS Anywhere, MAPS Anabolic, MAPS Performance, MAPS Aesthetic, the Butt Builder Blueprint, the Sexy Athlete Mod AND KB4A (The MAPS Super Bundle) packaged together at a substantial DISCOUNT at www.mindpumpmedia.com. Make EVERY workout better with MAPS Prime, the only pre-workout you need… it is now available at mindpumpmedia.com Have Sal, Adam & Justin personally train you via video instruction on our YouTube channel, Mind Pump TV. Be sure to Subscribe for updates. Get your Kimera Koffee at www.kimerakoffee.com, code "mindpump" for 10% off! Get Organifi, certified organic greens, protein, probiotics, etc at www.organifi.com Use the code “mindpump” for 20% off. Go to foursigmatic.com/mindpump and use the discount code “mindpump” for 15% off of your first order of health & energy boosting mushroom products. Add to the incredible brain enhancing effect of Kimera Koffee with www.brain.fm/mindpump 10 Free sessions! Music for the brain for incredible focus, sleep and naps! Also includes 20% if you purchase! Please subscribe, rate and review this show! Each week our favorite reviewers are announced on the show and sent Mind Pump T-shirts! Have questions for Mind Pump? Each Monday on Instagram (@mindpumpmedia) look for the QUAH post and input your question there. (Sal, Adam & Justin will answer as many questions as they can)

If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. MIND, MIND. We talk about my heavy petting to R&B. That was back when I was 14 years old, I think. Heavy petter. Adam talks about Black Mirror, a new show, but it's a show that we've been watching on Netflix. We talk about the challenges of the information age, the media's influence on the way we think and feel evil bastards.

We're getting manipulated. Oh, and then we mentioned the Organifi Christmas blend. We actually invented it. This is where you take the green juice and mix it with the red juice. And then I talk a little bit about the benefits of turmeric. And it's Santa Claus. Peace on you.

By the way, if you want to get a discount for those products, go to Organify Shop, that's O-R-G-A-N-I-F-I Shop, dot com, and enter the code, Mind Pump, at checkout. Then we get into the fitness questions. The first question was, what do we think of optimal caffeine intake? How much is too much, and what are the benefits of taking caffeine? We also talk about the detriments, so it's a well-balanced answer to that energized question. Then there was someone who asked this, do we use our brain's full capacity if we lose

connection to muscles? Just a dozen, really. Like the ones on our feet, it's actually a fascinating topic. We get deep with it, I don't know why I said it that way. Very key. Then we talk about the sled. What does it do for your body? And how do you fit it inside your workout?

Just then move to size up when I sit inside. Yeah, I did say what you thought I was gonna say. I don't know, you're just, you know, you're very sexual. Actually, we have videos of sled training on our YouTube channel mind pump TV So you can even reference there finally one of our favorite topics somebody asked us about entrepreneurship Can it be taught can you spot an individual who has a lot of potential as on as an entrepreneur?

When did we realize we were entrepreneurs at what age you will know? Really great topic. We love talking about that stuff. If you're a fitness professional building something on social media, if you're looking about going, if you think about going into business for yourself, or if you're just interested in the subject, you want to reps and fit T.

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dot com and sign up you know what i like is uh... Richard marks oh my god he like never got enough credit for his amazing ballads you really think so yeah i think you got just enough credit for his amazing ballads. You really think so? Yeah. I think you got just enough credit. You're right. I think you're right. I don't think he needs more. What was the one song? It's not almost paradise.

It was something like that. Uh, I don't remember. Almost paradise. Oh, is that him? We looking on heaven's door. Oh, yeah. That's a good one. Who almost paradise between your paradise? Could we ask for more? That's that's Richard Marx.

I don't know. I think so. Is that maybe it's not well, I used to call them dick marks. Yeah. Be honest. How many times have you made love to that particular song? Zero zero. Zero times. Are you a make love to music? I was more of like a I are either one of you guys make love to music. Oh, it's weird. Brain FM is weird, but it's weird to play music. I don't know. Some people are really into that. And they have to have like a certain beat. So it's what I don't know about that.

I definitely had a I had a girlfriend. I had a girlfriend in high school who would get instantly horny if we played if R&B. Like R&B, yeah. It was really weird. Like it was almost like, and so you didn't do that. What is that? You didn't do that. Oh, you kidding me, that it put R&B on every time.

I just asked you that. No, no, no, no, no, I didn't have sex though. I was a virgin at this point. Oh, but I'd put it on and then we mess around Yeah, we do the you know some heavy petting the little R&B some heavy petting to our Kelly play a game of you know touchy touch Doing the closet over the pants touchy touch how old were you at this time? 14 you want to know how this is how

Powerful women need it. I think women do get to understand, they do understand this later on in life. How much power they have over men, especially when we're younger. I, when I was 14, I had dislocated my knee, I actually told the story. I think they were all like this.

I had dislocated my knee. No, well they get aware of it later. And so I had to wear the straight knee brace and so I couldn't bend my leg. So I had to wear the brace, but I could had to wear the straight knee brace and so I couldn't bend my leg. So I had to wear his brace, but I could walk, just kind of fucked up, you know, like I'd walk kind of weird. I used to walk to her house, which was like three miles away or something like that.

She's hobbling. All the way over there. To hang out for maybe 30 minutes before her mom got home. And, you know, but it was all worth it because, you know, she touched me. Yeah. Over my pants. Wow.

You know what I'm saying? And then it walked all the way home. That's worth it. And you just, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. Do we take a lot more now to do that? Wow. You know what I mean?

Yeah. Just hobbling with that and blue balls. Oh, that was really. Yeah. And the older version, it would just be more blunt and straightforward about like, am I going to get any heavy padding? Because I'm down to totally wanting these three miles to get over there with this bad thing. I'm getting great, but do you know the finisher technique?

The fin? Yeah. Yeah. Can we do full realistic, accelerated at the end? But I think like, you know how like remember how excited I remember how like Excited I could easily finish that way at that age just over my pants. Oh totally now. I'm just like come on now Mm-hmm. Oh, you know what I'm gonna get a walk home with that in your pants which one of you two Was watching black mirror who's the who's the self? That was me. Oh, I seem like two episodes Have you have you continued to watch it? I watched all the episodes. Some of them are crappy,

but some of them are really good. Okay, I've seen a couple, I got sucked in last night. Which ones you watched? White Christmas. That one's fucking horrible, right? Great though. I mean, didn't it trip me like that would be terrible? Not only, but I've been able to say fuck.

That could happen. There's some really good, they did some good, a bunch of people have been in boxing me because of some of the stuff that we've set on the show. And because of irresistible and technology and where it's going and some of the things that to be fearful of or be cautious of, I should say, people have been, oh, you should watch this episode

of Black Mirror, so I told Katrina, and she brought it up actually, and that's what reminded me. She's like, there's a show that people keep talking about at work called Mirror. I'm like, oh, Black Mirror. And she's like, yeah, that's it. And like, yeah, a bunch of people have been inboxing me.

I think Sal and Justin watch it. I haven't had a chance. That episode in particular was disturbing. Yeah, it was like at the end of it, right? I'm just like, damn. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That is some fucked up. fucked up good good good episode Man, and then I watched the Waldo one where's Waldo one? Oh, what was that one about again? I can't think right now

Because I have the black I have the white Christmas one I only when I saw was the one where like the eye would would capture everything like video. Oh, yeah Yeah, and then you could like rewind it and like evaluate everybody's expression and you know how everything went down. That's weird. So I didn't know this until I what made me turn it on was that you don't have to watch it in order. There's different characters like. It's like highlights though. No, they're all different episodes. They're all different shows. Yeah, so so you could totally randomly go pick a run. And so that's what we started doing. It was like, oh, this title sounds interesting.

Is it related to this? Let's watch this one. Yeah, I might do that. You've watched them all though. I watched all of them because I got really into it. And some of them were just like, oh, that was a crappy one. There's a few that are stupid. Really?

Yeah, but there's a few that are really, really, really good. White Christmas was one of them. Yeah, I think the wall, the wall, the one was really good too. Dude, white Christmas disturbed my girl. Like, we watched it together and after work, she's like, I feel weird. I feel weird. Yeah, white Christmas was one of them. Yeah, I think the wall, the wall the one was really good too. Dude, white Christmas disturbed my girl. Like, we watched it together and afterworked, she's like, I feel weird. I feel weird. Yeah, it's just right.

Oh, I took it right, so you were sitting there. I'm like, what if, what if right now, we're the copy version of ourselves right now? Like, this is what if, what if we're there, our copy? There'd be no way of knowing. Yeah, like, there's no way we know. Like, so what would you, what would you do if you found that out?

Like, what would you do if you found out, like, I'm totally a program. I think it's not the way our program is. What would you do if you found that out? Like what would you do if you found out, like I'm totally a program. I think it's not the word program. I think what would you do? I think at that point you just, you have to embrace it, right? Because it doesn't change anything. That's, that's it, that's it.

Exactly. Right, like, because I still, like what's the, what's my, I still feel joy and sadness and happiness and love and I still have all the same feelings of, I guess as the fucking real me does. So I guess it's just an embrace it. Like I'd be like lucky me, I made a copy, smart me, as the fucking real me does. So, I guess it was just impressive. Like, I'd be like, lucky me, I made a copy,

smart me, made a copy of me, you know? So, I can't, I'm mad that I can't remember the wall the one, the first one I watched because I wanted to share it with you guys because both of them were really good. It got me into it. I was not that intrigued to watch it. I thought, fuck, I would keep saying to watch this.

And it does, it goes right in line with a lot of the, and I guess my mind's there right now because I just finished that book, Irresistible that I posted about and it was a really good book. And, you know, we just, where we're at right now attack, we don't have a lot of history to compare to. So, and it's actually interesting to me

that we don't speculate a lot on this. You don't hear a lot of people talking about, you know, we're excited about all these new things that are coming. Like, we're just all in this rush for some reason, like to just, like, come up with the coolest shit and like, make everything so easy. But is that really what we should be doing?

Things become normal very quickly, but it's very different for the younger generation. I have young kids, very, very different for them than it is even for, you know, definitely for my generation, but even the generation before them, it's changing so rapidly. Yeah. It's, I was having a conversation with my oldest and we're, you know, talking just about like the phones and all this kind of stuff. And I was kind of describing to him more again,

like what we talked about here, like about why, like I'm gonna kind of wait for a while before he can actually have his own phone. And just to find out, I kind of put a question at him, like there was a chicken outside. I'm like, do you know the breed of chicken that is? How do you go about finding that out? And so he starts to think about it.

And he's like, well, I can Google it, of course. Or maybe we could go back to the person that sold us the chicken. Maybe I can do that. Maybe I can ask somebody a neighbor. And I'm just trying to get him to critically think, like, hmm, what happens if I don't have easy access to information, how do I go about even getting it?

And so this is something that, like, I'm trying to establish critical thinking through, you know, this process, you know, as he's kind of building and developing his education is so important. It's something that like, nobody's gonna have the ability to do at some point. So I think you'll be taught not to.

Yeah, I think you're gonna be taught. It's already happening. Like, you are going to be one of the most valuable skills you have is just had a retrieve information. So let me ask you guys this. Yeah, you guys have kids that you guys can compare to. I don't. So I don't.

Do you think that we are better or worse at critical thinking and using tools like, you know, Google and YouTube and TED Talks and to find information? Like, I find it really easy to get anything I need to know about anything. And I think like, God, I wish this was at the tip of my fingers when I was, you know, 13 years old coming up through school. But it's still hyper dependent on that.

So I have to look at it and then my brain thinks about searching about it. If you take that away and you start thinking about it, how do you even retrieve information you already have in your head? But here's where I sometimes play devil's advocate. We lost a lot of skills as humans. Yeah, but it's also evolved about the amount of information you can consume. So we can technically become much smarter because we're the download more. But every single generation has this issue where, you know, we didn't grow up knowing how to survive in the wilderness. Like, I don't fucking know, I don't know how

to start a fire on my own. I don't know how to find clean water or you know build a shelter by hand and all these things that we you can share shit Google and YouTube with them. You can now. Right. Yeah, you can now. You could have looked it up in a library before too, but you're right. So it's just I think every generation is scared for the younger generation and every generation thinks that the younger generation is fucking because I think the okay the likelihood right and I'm sure that this rarely ever happens but playing goes down in the fucking middle of nowhere right like the likelihood now that somebody on that plane doesn't have a phone to fucking Google yourself to fucking safety compared to 20 years ago is like

I think you would have to hope to God that somebody on there has those basic skills where now you have these tools that you can rely on. And is it better or worse? I think about it this way. I think about this way. One major calamity that destroys our electronic systems, like a massive solar flare, EMP, or something puts us back in the Stone Age. And we would see massive, massive deaths. We have very short, pretty time. Do you really think that would put us back in the Stone Age and we would see massive, massive deaths.

We had very short-term. Do you really think that would put us back to Stone Age? You think it would be like all of a sudden, we'd be walking around like idiots not knowing how to figure anything out. You think about it this way. There would be a lot of fun. Imagine if K-Oss and K-Demonium for sure.

Imagine if no electronics worked at all. Like there's no electronics that worked at all. Imagine what would happen. People would know how to get a hold of each other, where to go. It should be an exercise as a nation that we go through. Once a week, everything gets shut down, figure things out.

You know what they do? It's not the community again. And people would talk to each other and like somebody with skills would start teaching everybody and like there would be order and you'd be connected to people again. Well, so I actually was having this conversation earlier with Jessica and we were talking about

how, with media, even with internet, we're constantly being told what to think, we're told our emotions, the way we feel about things, is molded so strongly by this sensationalized thing that we call the media. is molded so strongly by this sensationalized thing that we call the media. I can look at the media and based off of that, I can believe that the world, oh my god, things are terrible. It's horrible, it's dangerous, it's scary,

there's so much horrible things going on. If I shut all that off, just imagine this right now. If you shut all that off and just lived your life based on the people you ran into, you talked to people, whatever, you would think things were totally different. You would think like, oh, things are kind of cool, like, you know, I didn't really see anything that horrible today for most people, and you know, that guy was nice to me over there, and I don't really see these,

you know, people getting kidnapped and all these horrible things happening. I don't see these wars, and it's good to be informed, but I also think it's a good idea to fucking shut things happening. I don't see these wars and it's good to be informed, but I also think it's a good It's good idea to fucking shut things off. Yeah for a little while Otherwise you get this kind of destroyed on everybody's stress like it like I think that's an interesting problem. We have now is that we know like too much of like problems like we know too many things going on Like every second of the day and there's a problem in the world. Well, I mean, and we're drawn to that.

Like if the media shows us all these good, feel good stories, nobody wants to watch that because we're wired. It sucks. Our brains are wired, we're wired to be magnetized by bad information because we evolved in societies where that was important. Like in our tribe, if there was something bad going on,

we need to know because we want to solve problems. Because it could affect this right now, versus the media is showing me something that's happening in Oklahoma where this kid got kidnapped and it's terrible, whatever, but I feel like it's happening right here. And it's gonna affect me a particular way. And think about it this way.

How many people feel terrible about their bodies and how they look and feel super self-conscious And it's based on media because if you walk around outside, everybody looks like that. Like most people look like that Like I could walk around. Yeah, we could go we could go for walk for miles just out here in San Jose and I bet you I could count on two fingers. How many people I literally will see that would be really fit. If that, well, no. I mean, I used to say this in my presentation at the gym. I used to stand people up in my presentation

like when I'd be in the sales pit, right? And I'd have them look stand up, right? To give them perspective of the goals that they want to achieve, right? And I'd say look around the gym right now and find me five people that you want to look like physically. You know, there's not a lot. Most of these people, that's a gym, right? And it's exactly that was my point was like, you're in the place where everybody gets fit,

right? So these should be some of the fittest people around are going to be inside this gym. And you can't pick out five people that have the physique that you're aspiring to be. Now, why is that? Is it because everybody's lazy? Nobody knows. Or is it because we have distorted the distorted the idea of what health and fitness and everything really looks like? Or what the average looks like? Yeah, exactly. What the newsman presented.

Yeah, you know, can you look like a cover of a magazine? Absolutely, but we put this facade out that, you know, anybody can look this way and like, this is all you have to do. And what do you know that what this person has done to To obtain this look for this moment for this photo shoot and what they look like the rest of the year It's just not dude. I'll tell you what I you know I had horrible insecurities with my body thinking I needed to

Build muscle and you look a particular way and it was all distorted because I'd read all the body building magazines that compare myself to all these particular individuals. The reality, even now I'm 190 pounds, I'm six foot tall, I'm not a massive guy, but I'm usually one of the more muscular dudes in the room everywhere I go. I'm not a big dude. Now if I base it off of what I see on Instagram, I'm fucking tiny.

I look terrible, I don't have like these crazy proportions. This is what people are going through and it's distorted because we're so because our concept of what normal is like if we turned all that off right now all of it just shut off and we never looked at these pictures on Instagram or Facebook and none of the stuff and you just walked around every day outside and just based it on what you see around you. You'd feel you probably feel a lot better because you'd have a more accurate depiction of what. Well, I think that's why the backlash

for people that were photoshopping and all these types of things, like people had such a reaction to that because it's like they have this assumption that like, no, like you, wow, like you really look this way and then like to have them feel like they're fooled. Like that was such a mind opening thing

for all these people, like and it's like, of course, you know, if you're in the mentality of presenting yourself as awesome all the time, you know, I guarantee half the time, like some of these guys, they're just photoshopping, they're doing, you know, they want themselves to look the best and get the best angles all the time. Like it's not reality.

It is, and I know that there's an obesity epidemic, I understand that, but even if you consider all that, even if you go back 50 years when there wasn't an obesity epidemic, how common do you think it was just walking around in everyday life that a man had a six pack? How common? Rare. It's still, it's obviously super rare now.

It was super rare before to the point where if you go to the beach and you have a six pack or you take your shirt off in public, people stare, that's how rare it really is. But you wouldn't think so or at least your mind isn't perceived that way. When you open up your Instagram. Because that's all you look at. I mean, how many women who've had children

have stretch marks? A fucking lot of them do. How often do you see stretch marks on any pictures anywhere in the media? Oh yeah, nevermind. So you get this like, this false mental image that, oh my God, I'm so, I look so terrible because nobody looks this way.

Which is bullshit. Most people look that way. In fact, if you exercise at all, if you eat semi-right at all, the truth is, you probably look a lot better than most people. You're probably in the upper of 10%. Yeah, I think that's a great guess as far as a number. I think it's maybe even smaller.

I mean, I think you're probably 5%, I think you're 5%, I think when you get to the crazy level of that competitive magazine, look, you're in the 1% of the% and you know being in the fitness industry it amplifies it you know even more I have a lot of these conversations with my girlfriend she's a woman obviously and I think women deal with this even a little more just because they're advertised so heavily and which is true by the way media does advertise much more heavily to women in particular when it comes to appearance

because it clothes and all that stuff that they purchase more than men do. And you guys have seen my girl, she's very fit, very whatever. And she'll display these signs of being self-conscious and I'm telling her like, who looks at you? Like, we'll be at the beach, like tell me one person that looks like you.

But your mental image of that is so distorted and we're self aware of it and so consider people who aren't. And this is that, that actually worries me the most with social media with my kids is that I know, I grew up with the news and with TV and with magazines and I know how much that distorted my image of things. Social media so much faster, things are posted so much quicker, there's so much variety. Like they're gonna, they're just exaggerating and compounding things.

We've dealt with this, it's not new, it's that it's compounding, and it's, and the rate that it's compounding, and the amount that the younger generation is downloading it, right, as far as the information, and it's being put up. It's super influential. Well, when you look at the book that I told you I read, the irresistible one, and they talk about like, the average person, like how many times they picked their phone up, you pick your phone up now 50 something times a day.

And out of that 50 times, how many times is that checking Instagram or Facebook or Twitter or Snapchat? That's media, media media media, commercial commercial advertising advertisers. Advertisers, remember this right now, this is a fact that this is not disputable. Media and advertisers,

goal is to get you to think a particular way and feel a particular way. They are literally trying to manipulate you with tactics that get you to feel or think a particular way, hopefully to get you to either buy a product or to vote a particular way or to act or behave in a particular way.

So remember that. That's the one I saw. Which one? I watched the one where they had the, he was like a cartoon guy and he, and he followed around a politician and he manipulated the polls, but he was a comedian and it was a...

I maybe didn't watch that one. Oh, this is kind of cool. You like this one. So the idea was that he, this guy was really funny comedian and they drove around in this truck that had a huge digital screen that played a virtual cartoon character. Oh, yes. That was that was mirroring what he was saying behind the behind the curtains basically, right? And so they would follow this politician around and call fuck with them. Fuck with them. Yeah. And just keep fucking calling them out and making fun of them and stuff.

And and it was distorting the polls big time because he kept he just kept punking this guy. Well, that's that's it. They're all that's all their job is is to is to manipulate you to get you to think that that's what advertising is. It's what it does. It's very powerful. If it wasn't, it wouldn't be billion billion dollar, you know, billions does. It's very powerful. If it wasn't, it wouldn't be billion, billion dollar, you know, billions of dollars of an industry. It's been around for a long time. They've mastered it. It's a science. So you start when you're super young. You think, if you think you're a self-aware smart individual, if you watch media and commercials a lot, you are going to be influenced. It's a the fucking fact i don't care how self-aware

you think you are so it's a good idea to shut that shit off because they are literally telling you what to think and what to feel to the point where they can manipulate you so badly you know it's funny we've got i mean we've got all the stuff going on with uh... with politics and you've got people thinking that uh... that the country

is at the most racist that's ever been, for example. You're seeing this right now all over TV, right? And people being pulled like, oh my God, racism is the added absolute worst, which is false. Still exists, but it's false. It's way better than it's ever been. Relations have been better than they've ever been, but the perception has been changed.

Why? You gotta ask yourself why. What do people get out of making you feel a particular way? And it's to get you to vote or to act a particular way and it's either with fear or to make you feel shitty or to or through sex or whatever. So it's a good idea to shut that shit off sometimes. I'll tell you something right now. Stop flipping through Instagram so incessently or don't watch the news for a week, and I promise you'll feel better.

You'll actually feel better about yourself. I don't watch something that is barely at all. Oh, I don't at all. You can also challenge yourself by something that I continue to try and do, and I try and do it more and more as I get older, is things that I feel most passionately about, I challenge my thought process on that.

So if there's an opinion that I have that I feel strongly about it. Those are the ones I'm seeking to destroy my own opinion. And it's hard to do that. It's hard to say, oh, I feel this way about this thing or this is what really makes me happier. This is what's what's making me really excited about something of those things that I've talked about this before about analyzing my state change, like things throughout the day that make me extra happy, extra sad, you know, excited about things, things that change my state, and then unpacking that and going, okay, why am I feel this way about this thing? And then on top of that, going, okay, instead of doing, because it's really easy to get into that what we talked about, confirmation bias, where you're continuing to search more things that

just confirm your own opinion already, how about instead of doing that, you know what I feel so strong about this, so what if I read something that totally conflicts with that or read or watch something that is totally important to do that, because even more so now, right? Yeah, because I mean, I feel like that's directly connected to empathy, right? So if you don't ever look at the other side of your stance, then how are you even going to be able to communicate with somebody, you know, on the other side and come to understand them further? Well, not only that, reading the book, reading this book,

you talk about like these things like the way we're advertising now. Yeah. I mean, everything that's popping up in your feed is the things that you're already, you're already liking, you're already confirming to the computer that you're... Oh, it's taking you and isolating you as a whole other. Yes, it's definitely starting to cattle you even more, so it's going to become more challenging to find those things. In fact, you're going to continue to see stuff that already confirms what you were thinking, which if you don't learn to teach, which I think, and they talk about this in the book,

because that's how you buy it. There's, yeah, right. So there's gonna become tools that help you disconnect from that and avoid that because they're doing such a good job of cattling you through Facebook and YouTube searches and Google searches that if you don't find ways to wait a second, this is all I've been reading lately, this is all the information I've been consuming,

I need to pull myself out of here and actually search the opposite of that and see what direction that takes all of this advertising, marketing, sidebar shit that's gonna come up with an algorithm that will predict when you shift. Then you're fucked. That would be tough.

Yeah, I mean, it's pick a day during the week where you kind of shut off or maybe you check your phone in the morning for 15 minutes and then don't check it again till that night. They make apps for this. And just go outside, just observe people around you, sit at a coffee shop, talk to people, talk to your neighbor. It's extremely fulfilling to do so.

And it really does, it really makes you feel really, really good. Being stuck on these devices, I've never, I mean, I end up feeling worse. And I think everybody can kind of relate to what I'm saying. Inherently, you feel disconnect, right? And I think that's why a lot of times people feel lonely

and they feel like depressed a little bit. It's just like, they haven't necessarily realized that maybe they haven't had those interactions. Maybe that hasn't been a part of their daily routine anymore. You haven't looked somebody in the eye and had a conversation with them. That does something to you, you know? That gives you something and it's important.

Yeah, I mean, anxiety, I think is now the number one diagnosed psychiatric issue in America is anxiety. So it's it's inevitable that we're going this way. It's inevitable that it's going to get worse because not everybody's a mind-pump listener, not everybody gives a shit about that, it going that direction. So what fascinates me is the types of businesses

that will evolve because of it. Oh, totally. It's just like training, dude. I mean, like we look at this as like, there's potential problems, right? Because everything's accelerating and so fast. And like we're losing connectivity with everybody. Like so connectivity, it's just like,

how do I place this? Like I have to like literally try and focus on this as being a part of my life while everything else is telling me otherwise. Right. So one of the parts inside the white Christmas one, I thought was really cool was, and I believe for sure this will be a business,

is the business that he had created that was kind of illegal the one where he was. Oh, he helps him date. Yeah, where he helps, because you know, you think about what we're talking about that the more you know the less interaction that you have with one-on-ones face-to-face and then when you actually have to do that for personal relations or meeting the your significant other whatever how important that will become to have the social skills and quite frankly

you'll stand out. Yeah right and you're not going to most people are not going to, this generation coming up are so wired to their phone and connected that they're going to miss this. So that's going to create an opportunity for somebody older wiser to see that, to be able to help that. You're the guy with the six bags. Right. You're going to be the person who's, who's in their ear, teaching them how to communicate and talk and making money on it. And then I found it fascinating that they took it a step further and said, not only will that become a business,

but then the people will pay to watch that service. Oh my God. Right? So that's the spin off of it, right? So the dude's got, he's in his ear, you're watching firsthand like through their eyes, like him coaching him through like getting ready to bang this girl out. Meanwhile, he's got a forum of maybe,

Oh my God, there's a little earpiece. Yes. Oh my God. And 20 people are paying to bang this girl out. Meanwhile, he's got a forum of maybe a little earpiece. Yes. And 20 people are paying to watch this live. This guy get laid and be coached on how to get laid. So they're paying probably top dollar to get this firsthand. I was talking to Jordan from Artichard. There's a business opportunity there.

I should share that. I wonder if he watches that show. He'll appreciate that. Yeah, that's awesome. And it's always great when you meet people and you shake their hand and you say something nice to them and you talk to them. It seems like today more than ever, there's like shocked by it. You guys experienced this.

We're like, wow, you're really a nice guy. You're like, I am. If you don't get that every day, like people are not like that. Like you look at me and you shake my hand. Wow, it's crazy. I'm looking forward to when we get to the point in the future with tech that will actually be able to like read like our deficiencies and stuff that are in our body,

like where we're missing like micro nutrients or like how I'm supplementing with vitamin D or how I'm doing. The knowledge aspect of it is amazing. Could you imagine of waking up in the morning and being like, whoop, the screen comes up in front of my face says Adam, you're lacking in D3. See this and all this like that.

And then those are the exact, I take my organified green juice, followed by this. And then I got the exact stuff that I need to take before I start my day. And then, oh, the next day, like, great job. You've got right on point on all your totals. The Amazon comes and gives you pills, you know. Right, right.

But I hate those that I'm almost out of drones. You have three days left of your organized use all of the time that gets shipped over to my house. I mean, so to me there's a lot of things in there. Well, there's a huge, there's huge benefits as well. Huge benefits, there's just, anytime we have something that's very powerful, it's a, and humans are just like this,

they can go good or it can go bad. And it's up to us to choose which direction we go. And unfortunately, when something new is introduced, we usually go real bad it can go bad. And it's up to us to choose which direction we go. And unfortunately, when something new is introduced, we usually go real bad before we go bad. And then we start cleaning up. Start to clean up. I don't know. Have you been mixing the green and the red,

by the way, the organified green and the real Christmas action? Well, you're Christmas mix. Yeah, no, you told me that I think that, because I asked you, I said, is there anything that's compounds that are conflicting, right? I don't want to have like fucking energy in the other ones, like put me to sleep and relax.

And you're like, no, no, no, no, everything's, they compliment each other. And so I take them together, right? And the flavor is awesome that way. So I mixed the red and the green, which by the way, you fuckers, I don't know who took the other, there's like no more red.

We've gone through so many of the red already. I don't know. You Justin. I mean, I took one of them. Did we get more, did we get more of the green juice than we got the red? Because I feel like, okay, we did, so we did. So it's like, this doesn't make sense. I don't know.

Are you using it before you work out some stuff? Yeah, sometimes I'll have it in the morning. So during the cruise, I was having it every morning. Just it became like breakfast for me. I was having that stuff. There's 25 calories in each. So you get about 45 or 50 calories in there. And it actually was holding me over until I had a meal later on in the afternoon. So I

was doing that during the cruise because I know I wasn't moving along. But if on a normal day, like today, where I'll have breakfast and everything, I will have it maybe a half hour before I go to the gym and work out. Now, Justin's been using the probiotic. Because you asked me about that. Were you using a probiotic before? Or is this your first time using a probiotic? No, I just one consistent. Yeah, I've been using it consistently. This is the first time.

And it really noticeably helped when I, especially on vacation when I was eating out more consistently. And so I made sure to stay consistent with the probiotics and that. What is it helping with? Are you getting better with your heartburn? A little bit better with the heartburn and just, you know, my, sometimes like, my gut doesn't feel too good, like,

you know, when I'm traveling primarily. So, but yeah, at home and my continual use of it, between, between that, I mean, there's a couple different factors. It could be that. It could be that, you know, I've, I've, timed to my food, so I'm a little bit more in the middle of the day now instead of the end of my day. And I'm also like cutting out certain types of peppers that I've found on the top.

What do you mean by that? You're at the beginning of the day, what are you talking about? So I used to eat like more like eight o'clock or something like that for dinner. Oh, okay. So I've shifted that more like six. Oh, because then when you lay down to go to bed or like eight o'clock or something like that for dinner. Oh, okay. So I've shifted that more like six. Oh, because then when you lay down to go to bed or like, and I knew that, but like for me, I just don't like to eat breakfast.

And so I tend to skip that. And then, you know, the way that we work throughout the week, I can't eat lunch until at least two or three o'clock typically. So what I've done is I'll eat a smaller lunch and I'm sorry I'll eat a bigger lunch and then I'll eat a smaller dinner kind of at six o'clock. I tell you what one of the best things that I ever started to do and I don't remember what it will actually do remember I remember I was having a cheeseburger. I was eating a five guys burger with me a good story. I was eating a

five guys burger with Katrina and it was late at night and we were fucking Netflix and in chilling right and we're sitting there in bed And I'm and I'm actually eating this burger and I remember just be like oh my god It felt like a rock was was sitting in my chest like I didn't even make it didn't feel like it made it all the way down I'm like oh, I'm I'm having stashed it up and like kind of walked around the room like burping and I just felt awful And I told Katrina. I'm like, man, I cannot do that anymore. That's something as a kid that never bothered me. I could lay in bed and eat food and do whatever.

And I never really noticed anything like that before. Or all of a sudden, I started to pick up on this, like, whoa, if I eat and I'm laying down or I'm pretty sedentary, I really can feel the difference. And so it's a ritual for her and I that walking right after. Yes, that's our, I've been doing that too. That's our late night thing. We eat dinner and then we typically walk the boys before we go to bed and I am men.

I can, I literally swear to God, I can feel it digesting. I mean, it really makes me feel that much better. So when you move, first of all, gravity assists in digestion, so you're standing. But then walking, there are muscles like the so-as, for example, which is surrounded or on or around your digestive organs that actually helps massage food down. Movement does definitely do that.

So eating and then just sitting is probably not the best thing to do. That's not the move. Yeah. Have you guys taken or tried using the turmeric, the organifai? Turmeric. I have an action. Okay. So turmeric is anti-inflammatory.

I know that. Anti-inflammatory, anti-cancer. It boosts, I read a study about it boosting brain-derived neurotropic factor. I like to cook with turmeric as much as possible because of its health benefits, but if I don't, then now that we have the- How do you use it when you're cooking? Oh, chicken, rice, like curries, stuff like that.

You use it in there, like it's spice. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and it's really, especially goes good with coconut. Oh, that's like coconut creams or whatever. I'll try that, yeah. It's really fucking good, but it's got a lot of health benefits. It's considered now a superfood. There's a lot of study going into turmeric for its effect on, especially arthritis patients

are showing a benefit with supplementing with cuckoo men, which is the, when the active compounds in turmeric, it boosts brain derived neurotropic factor in the brain. So that's something that your brain really thrives off of. So theoretically could improve cognitive function. I've, like I said, for the last four years, I've really tried to include it in a lot of my dishes, but now that we have the sponsorship, I've just been taking turmeric, and I'll take it with a meal that's got fat in it because it helps your body absorb it or utilize it more.

But I'd like to, since you guys don't ever use it or really haven't, I'd like to get your guys' take on supplementing it on a daily basis. Well, ever it cooks with it a lot. So yeah, so I do get it in food quite often. So what's your idea though on like the RDA on it? Like how much of it do I need to be taking it? That's a great, if I'm already intermittently getting it, like what's the thoughts on it?

That's a great question.'m already intermittently getting it like what's that's a great question. So I don't know I know studies will use a regular daily dose of it. And so that's how I'm using it now just because we have like I said we have the sponsorship so we've got the the capsules and I could just take four of them every single day and I'll take them with dinner. But some cultures eat it all the time like Indian cultures eat quite a bit of it and they're cooking. So I would say, especially if you have inflammatory issues or if you have gut issues,

cause it's really good for gut health, I would use it on a daily basis because it's a food and not, or like a plant, not a supplement in the sense that it's not an extract or whatever, you could probably use it every day. Do you think that it has countering effects if I actually took it with a food

that was like pro-inflammatory and would that help negate that because I took it together with that? That's a great question. There's, I know, and I've talked about this before with the way the cell absorbs... Oh, mega threes. Yeah, threes and nines, that the nines are more dominant and more competitive.

So if you over-consume the nines, that doesn't even matter if I take in the threes because they basically push the threes out of the cell. So that's a good question. I don't like... I'm not allowed to. I don't even like speculating on that because then what people will do is the lead like a shitty meal and they'll be like, Oh, okay, I'm just gonna take this turmeric now to off-shack cancel it out. I don't think it works that way. It's not a, it's not a, it's not a pharmaceutical with this. That's why I wanted to ask you

because I think that's important for people to understand that because again, why my, my pump is always stood by like, you know, save your money on the supplements that, you know, you got to have the diet right first before you take some of these things. Otherwise, you've got to canceling out. Great point. I don't know how much benefit it'll give you if you have a shitty diet and you don't exercise. I think it's a part of a healthy diet. I again, ideally, this is what you would do. You would either put it and make a smoothie and take some turmeric root and throw it in there. It'll be kind of strong tasting that or get and cook with it on a regular basis or just supplement with it. One of the more fascinating things about turmeric is it's also being studied for its effect

on depression. And the theory is, is because of its effect on inflammation, that it may benefit people with depression, because we're starting to show now that depression is strongly linked to inflammation, which could be connected to your gut health and all that other stuff. But reducing inflammation is being shown to help people with depression. And turmeric is one of those things. So it's a pretty fascinating stuff. Bird. To these quads being brought to you by Kai Maricopi, it's the only coffee that is infused with all natural neutropics for a cleaner, calmer, and more focused buzz without the crash. Put the chimerilink at MindPumpMedia.com and input the discount code MindPumpACheckOut for 10% off!

It's the motherfucking car! The eagle is landed! Quee-qua-w. First up is Carter's Consumptions. What do you guys think is an optimal caffeine intake? How much is too much? Are there any benefits to caffeine? Yes, yes. What do you guys think is an optimal caffeine intake? How much is too much? Are there any benefits to caffeine?

Yes, yes, yes. Ten express-o-shots. Yes, yes, yes. And yes, caffeine is a very interesting, stimulant chemical found in nature. Humans have been consuming for a very, very long time and it's interesting because... Shitty part is it's very individualized, right?

I mean, each person is gonna be different levels. Oh, oh, there's a huge, just like with everything, right? But caffeine has got some huge variance from individual to individual. There isn't, I had to look the sub, cause I don't know the name of it. But caffeine is mainly metabolized by the liver. And there's an enzyme that is used to metabolize it,

and I wrote it down here, it's called CYP1A2, but the ability to produce this enzyme is regulated. It's like a robot. It's regulated by a particular gene. So if you have changes in this DNA sequence of this gene, then that'll determine how efficiently you can metabolize caffeine and eliminate it from the body.

So some people genetically produce very little of this enzyme, what others produce a large amount. That right there will play a large role in how tolerant you are to caffeine. So what may be great and effective and healthy for one person, maybe too much for another individual. So this is very important to know because I'm about to read off all the health benefits of caffeine. Yeah, let's read off the signs and symptoms

that you should pay attention to. Well, I'll go into the health benefits, but I'm one of the people that is very sensitive to caffeine. So if I didn't- You're a pussy, J. Yeah, if I didn't pay attention to this and I just saw the benefits and I may continue to push caffeine and continue to get negative side effects in which case caffeine is not good for me.

So it's an important thing to note. So I actually looked up all of the studies that, so these are all the proven benefits of caffeine. First off, consumption of caffeine reduces the instance of mouth, throat cancer, and liver cancer by a tremendous amount. Yes. Yeah, coffee in particular, but caffeine as well. Caffeine reduces risk of stroke. It reduces a risk of type two diabetes,

reduces chronic inflammation. It helps people with asthma, which I do. Let me back up real quick here, because I wanna, when we read things like this. So when it says something like, can reduce diabetes. Now, is that Starbucks? Is that because I can show that, you know, studies show

that people that take in caffeine, then move more, then in turn burn more calories, then in turn can help prevent them from getting diabetes. Is that the thought process? Was it black coffee? This isn't like, you know, with two pumps of caramel. I just want, of course.

I just want to, I just want to help people understand that when I see stuff like this, that's kind of how my brain works because it's not like there's this direct thing that helps prevent diabetes because you drink coffee every morning. No, so caffeine in particular increases insulin sensitivity in the body. So because it increases insulin sensitivity, theoretically, it reduces risk of diabetes and studies done specifically on diabetes do show that caffeine consumption does reduce the risk of diabetes.

So I don't know if it's super conclusive, that that is the only factor that's doing it, but it's pretty well established. It's the reason why I say that it's the same way that someone can can put caffeine or something inside of a fat burner. Through the genus. And then you can call it a fat burner because you can say that because you're on caffeine, it then speeds the heart rate up, it then makes you move more, in turn, you burn more calories.

Therefore, I can now say that it can help burn fat. Well, in terms of fat burning, there's a few things that caffeine may benefit in that particular sense. One is, yes, like Adam's saying, you're more energetic, you may want to move more. It increases the release of cataclysmines, which are fat burning chemicals.

It does increase or improve insulin sensitivity in the body, and it increases fat mobilization on its own. So those three things show that it can help you with obesity and all those other things. However, this is now here comes the caveats. You build a tolerance to caffeine pretty quickly. So all those potential fat burning effects, they reduce dramatically over time, caffeine tolerance is very quick. We build it very fast. If you take someone who's never had caffeine,

you give them a little bit and they're fucking hyper and they feel amazing, give it to them every single day, within a week or two. Already starting to get used to it. Right, I get it. I build up a tolerance within days. I know when I drink one and I start getting sleepy,

that's bad. You know. Oh, when you're taking, you actually get tired. Yeah, up a tolerance within days. I know when I drink when I start getting sleepy, that's bad. Oh, when you're taking you actually get tired. Yeah, like sometimes I'm like, okay, I need to totally back off and start over again. I'm actually at that point right now. I'm at a point where I know, not that I'm getting sleepy, but I know that it's been a while since I've totally cut out my caffeine and I haven't done that and I'm due for that. I did the marijuana one not too long ago, so then I kind of cycle, I think there's all these things that I find that I do a lot that have got lots of benefits

to them and I'm pro caffeine, I'm pro marijuana, but I also recognize that both those things really quick, you can build a tolerance up to them before you know it. You're having to intake a ton of it just to feel that. I think that's the real truth behind this. And that because we can't give like a milligram dosage per person because someone like Sal, who's sensitive to it, can take in 25 milligrams and he's like flying

where someone like Justin probably has to take 200 milligrams just to fill the same. No, wait a minute. Wait a minute. No, wait a minute. I take 100 milligrams or 200 for me is fucking on fire. 100 is good Justin or even Adam I've seen you guys consume 500 600 in a sitting no problem

To the size of the coffees that you're drinking if I had 500 milligrams of caffeine at one time No joke I would be a lot fun. No, I wouldn't I would probably get sick or Really I would probably get you sweating out of the a nauseous or sick or I'd probably have to go to the hospital. I would get that. I would I would I used to overdo it when I was younger at my hands to get a tremors.

Well, more people are hospitalized for overconsumption of caffeine than almost anything else in terms of like things that will consume. It's actually quite common. Here's the other thing too. If you're in a chronically stressed state and you're suffering from the symptoms of, you know, HPA access type issues, like cortisol resistance or what some people

will call a adrenal fatigue, the last thing you should do is have a ton of caffeine. So here, that's something else you wanna consider. Like if you're this really stressed out individual and you're having issues with sleep and you feel kind of shitty or whatever. Stay away from caffeine because that's only going to make things worse. That's going to make cortisol levels higher. You start working on dampening it down. Absolutely. And like on your point Adam when it comes to you know building a tolerance of things what you want to understand is there's

At a particular dose there's benefits. At more of a dose you don't get more benefits, you just get more side effects. And when you build up a tolerance, when you build up a tolerance, what ends up happening is you need to take more to feel the same benefits. But now the risk for side effects are higher.

This is kind of a piggybacking off the topic that we just did that a lot of people have been sharing was the rich Piana discussion about steroids and stuff. And we talk about that steroids by themselves and the use of it. There are studies to show the health benefits and how it can be totally safe and fine. But what ends up happening, because you build a tolerance for that too. You know, you can see, and I being somebody who's who's done hormone therapy for a long time, I know that when I can tell when my body is not responding the same way from, from a dosage and it's like, I have two choices, either one that's when I can tell when my body is not responding the same way from a dosage.

And it's like, I have two choices, either one, that's when I should wing off and come off of it for a while and then reintroduce or two, I have to increase, which I told you guys before, my body already tells rejects it after I get to a certain point. I already feel the adverse, I can see and feel these signs start coming up, if I start pushing up to the 400, I can see and feel these signs are coming up if I start pushing up to the 400, 500 milligram range, which some of these guys, that's a stream, that's being off, you know, for some of these guys that are competing. So when you think about, you know, we're talking about caffeine and I'm comparing steroids and I know they're completely opposite, but the idea of how this could lead to something that could be totally fine and safe

and not dangerous to something that could be totally fine and safe and not dangerous to something that could actually have some adverse effects or even become potentially dangerous for somebody. Think about it this way. It's like if I have a high performance vehicle and I just hammer gasoline in there and the car tries to adapt by shrinking the tube that injects the engine with gasoline

so that I'm taking in less and less, even though I'm adding more and more gasoline. So eventually I'm adding so much gasoline, it weighs the car down, it's spilling out of the freaking gas tank I'm getting all these side effects. When you're taking these substances, it's not just the amount of the substance that needs to be considered. It's also your ability to assimilate it and use it, and that includes receptor sites that are open for it. So, you know, 100 milligrams of caffeine may affect you amazingly because you've got

all these wonderful receptors that are open to it. Once those receptors start to down-regulate, I have to take more and more caffeine to get the same effect, but now, because I have so much more caffeine, the side effects start to go up. So, now, instead of getting energy and feeling great and motivated from caffeine, the side effects start to go up. So now, instead of getting energy and feeling great and motivated from caffeine, I just, it makes me feel normal at best, or at worst I feel shitty, irritable, shaky, anxiety,

those types of things. So, if you like the effects of substances like caffeine and you love the way it makes you feel, one of the best things you could do is give yourself a schedule. Like literally say, I will allow myself no more than X amount of coffee per day. And on these days, I don't have any at all. I like to do that.

I like to not have caffeine on days that I don't have much to do. I'm going to relax. Then why have it? And it's going to cut it off. Yeah. Just to point in your day. So you can start the process. So ramping it down, I do something similar. So mine is the two cups of coffee. So if I start finding

myself wanting more than two cups of coffee, that's my sign and you go back the other direction. Because I have my my morning ritual, I pour a cup, just regular coffee, not Starbucks, it's a little mug, you know, from heat when I drive from work to here. And then normally I either pour a cup from our our tap. First cup doesn't count. So the second one is that if I find myself reaching forward again mid afternoon or another time through the day or, you know, like you said, where we've slammed 500, 600 and you have a huge venti one or that, that is my sign that, okay, it's time for me to come, one of that, that is my sign that, okay, it's time for me to come back to the direction,

which is where I'm at right now. Right now, I'm at this two cups of coffee, and I don't feel like I'm really getting anything from it, where the next step for me is to have a third cup of coffee, where I'm like, okay, now I'll come back to the other one. And then you just get more side effects, and when you manage it that way, like when I'm managing things properly,

a small amount of, you know, camera coffee or 100 milligrams of caffeine in a caffeine pill or whatever, man, I feel fucking great. I'm motivated, energized, creative. I can have good workouts. Everything's fantastic. If I bump it up to the point where I'm going 200, 250 milligrams, I get I have way less benefit and effects from it and more, way more side effects. So it's also just milking out the benefits of it. This is true for almost anything, but especially for caffeine. But again, there is a big variance.

Find what your sweet spot is where you feel great and you don't feel any negatives and try to play with staying around that, which means you're probably going to have to reduce it At least a couple days a week to maintain that effect Quick commercial break you guys we keep getting asked all the time How can I support the mine pump family? Here's one of the best ways you guys can you guys love that chimerik coffee that we have Chimerik coffee with a K you go to chimerik coffee dot com put in the discount code mine pump for 10% at the checkout. If you guys have not tried Ben Greenfield's new bars out there fantastic. If you want some go to Ben Greenfield fitness.com forward slash nature by putting the code mine pump and get 10% off.

Go check it out. Christian 9688, do you think we don't use our brains to their full capacity because we lose connection to muscles like the ones in our feet? Ooh, for sure. Ooh, yeah. 100%, 100%. A big part of your brain is devoted to your senses, touch, movement, sight, smell, all these different things.

Your brain develops, you know, connections, you know, neurological connections to these types of things. Avoiding them or not using them means that your brain is probably not going to operate in an optimal way. You see this with music. You know, we've cut music from schools for a long time now because we don't think it's important like math and science, right? Because well, music, it gives a shit, you're not gonna make money doing music. But now we have conclusive studies that show when children learn music, they do better math, science, and writing. Same thing is true with movement.

If you lose the development because your brain will, it will lose just like anything. It prioritizes. Yes, and if you stop doing something, your brain loses its ability. We were literally talking about this last night. Katrina was making a concrete lead just getting back from our trip, finished up the books that we were reading. We are about to pick the book that we're going to go through next. And we were just talking about the whole process of us staying on that.

And we're just kind of like, you know, I'm glad we've been consistent with that with everything that we've had going on and this not. And she was like, she's like, I can tell a difference in you when you're reading and when you're not. And she's like, just your creativity and your ideas with your business, the way you think. And she goes, I can, she goes, being an outsider and paying attention to you. I always know when you're really reading a lot, and then when you're kind of not. And it's just like, you're still a great person both ways. You go, but I can just show up in your conversation and all that. And really you're exercising a part of the brain, right? In a sense, right?

So when we're comparing it to a muscle, you're exercising a pathway here, right? And that's what when you exercise, there's a neurological connection from the brain to the fingers like Sal saying, so if I wiggle my fingers, there's a neurological connection from the brain to the fingers like Sal saying. So if I wiggle my fingers, there's a neurological connection from the brain to there that are telling those muscles to wiggle and move. You stop doing that, it becomes harder to do that. Same thing goes for exercising the brain with thinking processes through mathematical equations, through creativity, through all these different pathways in your brain that tap into this.

If you don't exercise it, you don't stretch it, you don't train it, you will lose it, and it will start to diminish. So I wanted to pose a question like, so you know about Neural Plasticity, and you know about the lawsuit that one company got that was like promoting brain games and that it was supposed to. That's talked about this in the book.

Okay. That's actually not true. Yeah, okay, so I wanted to, yeah, I'm curious about that and what the lawsuit entailed and what the... That's why. They talked about names in the book. I think it claims word that it was gonna make your brain work better by exercising it

with a particular game and stuff like that. The reality is what... Did it have carry over? No, but the reality is what's best for your brain is a very sensory rich environment. So an environment that includes touch, movement, sight, sound, and being able to process all these things in different ways. And it also means...

All different stimulus. All different stimulus. And it also means sometimes shutting off other things, but going in a quiet room or whatever to focus on other parts of your mind. So it operates completely differently? Yes, and those are the things that develop a brain that operates in functions in an optimal way. Again, movement, let's look at exercise for example.

That has been removed from schools now for a while because again, we think it's not important. But we now know for a fact that movement and exercise has a direct relationship with how well you think and process and your IQ. They will actually show that when people exercise, regularly, they will have a raise or a boost in IQ. And you can experience this instantly, instantly, literally. If you're sitting there and you feel like you have brain fog and you're tired

Get up out of your chair, go for a walk outside, do some pushups, do a trigger session, whatever I guarantee you within 10 to 15 minutes, you're gonna be sharper. You're gonna think a lot better It's just an absolute fact. These parts look at our feet, you know, in the question they brought up the feet Your feet of all your body, you have your hands, your feet, I think your lips, your nipples, your genitals, there's certain parts of the body that are super, super, super rich in nerve endings. There's super rich in nerve endings. One of these parts of our body we cover since since since we're children and almost always keep it covered all the time and don't ever touch them to anything and that's our feet We're always in shoes all the time that part of our brain is so fucking undeveloped that

It will really shock you to take your shoes and socks off and just walk around barefoot most of the time when you can and Notice the difference notice the difference in how you feel just from doing that It's something that we totally neglect. In fact, these areas are considered irogenous zones because they're so rich in nerve endings. To the point where, with our feet, we're so ticklish on the bottom of our feet, mainly because I don't think we can process the sensations on our feet because they're always so covered.

So it's a ticklish thing to us, like, oh my God, don't touch my feet. The only reason why that's the case is because they're always covered. By the time you ticklish thing to us like, oh my God, I'm touching my feet. I can only reason why that's the case is because they're always covered. By the time you uncover them, it's like, you're you can't process all those crazy, you know, sensory, it's like the sensory overload, you know, I'm saying, and you and this so they've done this with studies with people who've had cochlear implants in their ears, where they

were deaf for a long time or even as children, then they'll put this implant and they were deaf for a long time or even as children, then they'll put this implant and they can hear for the first time. It's too much overload, right? You have to be careful, because it takes a second for the brain to be able to process and all the sensory. Otherwise, it becomes overwhelming. The sound becomes just too much.

To piggyback off that too, what always happens with somebody who is missing one of those, right? Like let's see, you're blind or you can't hear, the other ones are heightened, right? So you have to, now the brain is prioritizing more over there, which just tells you that the ability, there's so much more room for us to enhance all these areas if the focus and the training, or the, you know,

you start to put, I don't know what the word I'm looking for here. Or emphasis. Yeah, more emphasis on that, whatever that strength is or that pattern or that pathway is in your brain, and it's fascinating to me to see that when you have somebody who is either deaf or blind or has something that they're lacking, normally the other senses are way beyond the average person. Yeah, you're honestly your best bet for a good healthy brain includes for sure includes movement. It's very very important for you to move and feel and touch things.

You know, the Soviet Union did some horrible horrible studies, but they were very fascinating, but they did them on children, where babies were orphaned or whatever, or put it for adoption, so it's birth. And they did these studies where they took babies that they fed them and kept them warm and all that stuff, but they weren't allowed to be touched. So the nurses never went in there and held them and caressed them, they just fed them,

put them back in there. And then they had a other group of children, maybe, became Putin. Exactly. They got, they were sick. They were sickly. They had issues with, I mean, mental issues, like all because they weren't getting touched or felt.

Well, and that's a very extreme case of what can happen. But if you neglect movement with your body in any particular way, you're just not reaching your optimal potential. And it doesn't mean you have to be this super athlete or anything like that. Just realize it's important. And music is one of those things. Movement is one of those things. Touch is one of those things. You know, communication is one of those things. Reading, math, all these things is it provides this rich environment for your brain to really develop to its full capacity. Yeah, have you guys seen that documentary Icarus?

No, okay, it goes over like the Soviet involvement with like you know like PEDs and all that like how they've been sneaking past all the the ways that they test for it and sneaking past all the ways that they test for it. And they got one of the main scientists there in the lab. They got him to kind of come forward. Oh, is this the cyclist? Yes. Oh, I want to watch this.

It was very fascinating. Like how they were able to get beyond all these really, really strict way of protocol. It's called Icarus. Didn't he get on Netflix? Wasn't he getting in trouble for it or something? Yeah, he had to go into witness protection. Because he was giving away all the secrets.

I mean, it literally went back to the beginning of the Olympics. They've been doing it since way back. Well, they talked about that in... State sponsored. State sponsored, yeah. Bigger, stronger, faster. They touched on, I think, I think it was bigger, stronger, faster, that touched on a little bit

how, I mean, that's how we were getting our asses handed to us back, back then they were just pounding us because we they were able to full the test and everybody. And then then all of a sudden, that's where the US finally got a board like, Oh, OK, so the name of the game. Yes, here's how you do is to, you know, is to get your athletes to take the stuff within a find ways to cheat the test well what do you think why do you think when this so be a union collapsed and a lot of the coaches came here all of a sudden all of a sudden

we're doing awesome all of our performances are fucking going through the room did he didn't he take them all so he was natural right and they gave all these drugs so it started out as being like about the cyclist and like him experimenting and and kind of going through that process. How much it can improve? Yeah, see how it can improve and like he kind of through the process realized that it didn't. It wasn't going to make him like even in the top 10. Like he got really like bummed out like he actually performed worse. The following race after being on PEDs for that year. So it went kind of beyond that story.

And then it got more into like he connected to this scientist who was kind of like getting all his urine and getting all the samples and kind of like telling him the protocol of what he needs to do to get beyond these tests and all that kind of stuff. And then it turned into him and his story of how he'd been getting beyond all these things because it was state mandated and like how, you know, the KGB was involved

and all this stuff, it's crazy. That's the same. Next up is Godzilla 1112. What do you think of the sled? Where does it fit into one's workout? No, it's just a favorite sled. I love the sled. Yeah, I like it mainly because, especially with clients that maybe they have a bit of biomechanic

issues or things that you know you want to address in the squat, but you still want them to get good conditioning, good strength work, that kind of stuff. It's really low impact. It's a really low impact exercise that, you know, is a great one to kind of throw into the mix. I have seen, I saw huge gains from adding the sled into my routine. It has become a staple in almost all of my leg training.

Like I just absolutely, and I do some back stuff with it, but I love to pull and drag, push the sled. Yeah, I've done it before my workouts but I love to pull and drag, push the sled. I've done it before my workouts and the middle of my workouts, after my workouts, there's lots of ways that you can use it. And it's arguably one of the most functional things that you can do because in real life,

like getting strong and pushing something or pulling something is really more likely that you're going to use that primal. Yeah, that skill opposed to, you know, when are you ever going to put a load, load something on the back of your traps and squat down as much as much as this is for a bunch of reps. Right. Exactly. And we talk about, and the squat is the king of all exercises, but when you, even when you

talk about, and in one of the most functional things you do, and I'm not debating that here, but the sled pooling and pushing is right up there, and the amount of muscle that you can build, the pumps that you can get from it are in. It's a different stimulus. Man, it's insane. They compliment each other so well.

It really fulfills the need of your muscles. It's not just this very specific contraction where I'm squatting down into depth and coming up and getting my hips involved. This is like, I'm driving, I'm constantly pumping blood into my legs and it's pretty gnarly. I also like to use it as an increasing my volume and frequency. So like if I'm putting like a lot of emphasis on growing my legs right now, I'm training

my legs two to three times in the week. And then on top of that, once or twice during maybe a chest or shoulder type of workout, I'm going to go over and drag or push the sled for four or five rounds and get this great pump. So you get, I get the benefits from the, and I'll, the weight I'll choose according to how my legs feel. Like if I've already got a lot of damage and I'm trying to recover, I'm going to do a lighter weight. I'm going to push the sled, working on my mechanics and just get some blood flow there, get some calories burned. If I, my legs feel great and recovered, I might stack some more weight on there and push it a few times.

Well, the rant, go ahead. Well, I was going to say one of the reasons why it's such a good thing to add in terms of frequency is in particular because when you're pushing a sled, you're not doing heavy negatives on the reps. It's all positive. It's a good point. It's push, push, push. It's not push and lower, push and lower. And the negative portion of reps, although it is responsible for a lot of muscle growth, it's also responsible for a lot of muscle damage. So there is some benefit, you can take advantage of that, right? You can take advantage of the fact that you can push something heavy and not get as much damage as if you were doing a squat or a lunge or something like that. And like Adam saying, adding it to add volume and frequency, but without getting

a lot of the damage, that's a great thing. That's a great benefit of it. Plus there's a benefit of it in the sense that it's teaching you to, there is an elastic effect when you lower a weight. What I mean by that is if I'm in a squat and I lower the squat and then squat it up, I can squat more weight doing it that way than if I get underneath a bar in the squat and position already and then come up because there is this energy storage that happens

when you lower a weight with the sled, you don't get that because I'm pushing, I gotta bring my leg back up and push again so it can train you to be stronger without having to rely on that elastic effect, which if you're an athlete, it's fucking excellent. That's great because in sports where you're taking off for sprint or you're driving, or whatever, generate force.

You got to generate force from the position where you're not storing all this elastic, yeah, potential. Exactly, so yeah, sleds, great way to add volume and frequency. I know we've done some videos on sleds, haven't we? I think we've already done some of our very first ones, I think. Yeah, we've done some videos, maybe we can do some more, you can check them out on YouTube on our channel.

Yeah, I just made a note on our, because I'm made a note on a couple of things actually that we can do some YouTube videos on in regards to the stuff that we're talking about today So we'll do may we'll do another series that's related to the sled that how other ways you can use it I think we originally did it just basic, you know, here's driving pulling. Yeah, we just did the real basic how to do it But we could also do you know different ways to implement it into your programming I think that would be a cool video, right? You know more for strength and for, yeah, conditioning because I use it for both.

Right. I think use it for hypertrophy. I mean, there's hypertrophy. There's, so I think we could do a video on, on different ways to program it. I think that would be kind of cool. Quick commercial break. Hey, people ask us all the time how they can support mind pump. Here's what you can do.

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Can entrepreneurship be taught? If so, can you spot an individual who has huge potential as an entrepreneur? Is that something that people have to realize on their own? When did you guys realize that you were entrepreneurs? Yes, yes, yes, and 12. Yeah, 12. It's interesting, that's an interesting question. It's a good question. OK, so I tend to be more of a growth mindset individual,

at least I strive to be. And so I believe many things can be taught. I definitely think there's individual propensity for certain things. but can somebody learn how to be more of an entrepreneur through training and through coaching that if they never had that training in coaching, I definitely believe so. But I also think some people are just naturally better.

I don't think it's an argument at all. I think it's no different than the way we talk about people being genetically gifted to be bodybuilders and be massive and huge. Some people have a genetic gift about people being genetically gifted to be bodybuilders and be massive and huge. Some people have a genetic gift and are going to respond well to steroids, respond well to weights and are going to look just absolutely, you're going to have people that just have this gift in town.

But I also think that you can build an incredible physique that could get up there and compete with some of the best, maybe not be the best, but compete with the best, and not be as naturally gifted. The same thing works with entrepreneurship and this ability as some people were just born to lead, were born to create, were born to do these risk takers. Yeah, right? Just, we're born to do this. And you could argue that, because I do think that a lot

of these type of things are, were developed in this as a young child like during that five to seven years old. I believe that there's things that happen to you that you did, it took me a while before I unpacked this all the way to where I was five. And I've had people actually ask me this and sit me down and go like, okay, we'll go further back.

Like what made you think this way? And so I shared this one time that, I remember being a young kid not having a lot as far as money and things like that. And our family would always talk about how it's all about love and God and family. And that was the core and everything else doesn't matter and money is evil. And so I was taught that at a very, very young age, but then I would see my friends that had things and lots of money and yet they were happy and they had all these things. And so I started to make that connection at a very early age.

And then I saw the work and the things they would do. And I saw that, you know, this, this my buddy's dad created this business and he did all these things and he had all this financial freedom and then this other friend created this business and did that and I was started to see this and I thought like, you know, I want to, I want that. Like, I want, I want that at an early age and I know I made that connection early on. I didn't really notice it until I was older and that it probably stemmed all the way from those early years. So I do think that part of it is nature,

part of it is nurture. I think that, I definitely think that it's not for everybody though. I think a lot of people think it sounds cool to work. If you're really breaking down, it's not cool. Yeah, well, startup companies is horrible. We've talked about this before, right? 80% fail.

You know, 80% fail. 20% are successful. And then when you measure 20%, the 20 20%, a big portion, and I forgot what the percentage was, I know I've read this somewhere, but a majority of that 20%, only make like a get by making a living, you know, like enough to support them or their family, which is, it's not like huge money. There's even smaller fraction and we're getting in the like one percentile them that turn this their entrepreneurship or their business into a multi-million dollar company. So it's definitely glamorized a lot. It is especially in American culture because

we are capitalistic society. So we see people who've done well for themselves as the ones that the big successes and we learn about them and read about them and it's very glamorized. I've read a few studies on this, on this particular subject in particular, and they've done studies. They've done studies to identify

what characteristics successful entrepreneurs have that are different than just everyday people. And there's like 14 or something that people have identified. But the ones that stick out to me the most are drive, drive in energy, self-confidence, and a low fear of failure. So I'm gonna break those three down as to why I think those are the most important.

Drive in energy, I think, is extremely important because you have to have an internal sense of motivation and desire to do what you do. When you work for someone else, you have a little bit of an external, it's more of an external drive, right? Your boss tells you, I want this project finished, I want you to do this, I need you to complete that.

And so you're driven by deadlines, you're driven by what someone else is kind of telling you to do. When you're an entrepreneur, you have to be driven to do that yourself. Imagine going to school, never having to take a test, never having to take turn in homework. Like if you're passionate about the subject, you'll learn a lot.

If you're not, you're not going to, because you don't have to turn anything in. So that's one of the number one things. The second one is that it's self-confidence. Self-confidence is very, very important in entrepreneurship because you literally have to believe that you are going to defy terrible odds. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?

Because the odds are terrible. Odds are horrible. If you just, if, if I'm... It's statistically it's a really bad idea. Statistically speaking, you're what I'm saying? Because the odds are terrible, odds are horrible. If you just, if, if I'm... If I'm... Statistically, it's a really bad idea. Statistically speaking, you're gonna fail. Like that's just the statistics.

As an entrepreneur, you have to have a healthy level of narcissism to where you believe that you are different than all the other 80% of failures. Like, well, okay, I know everybody... You have to believe it hard. Yeah, like I know everybody fails, but I'm not gonna fail because I mean. So you have to have that belief in it's not false.

It needs to be a real sense of self-confidence. Otherwise, you would never be an entrepreneur in the first place. And then the third one that I thought was really important is a low fear of failure. A really terrible, strong, strong fear of failure will and has prevented many, many entrepreneurs from succeeding.

Because I've used this example in the past, but we just, you know, it's like when you watch a boxing match and you watch a fighter fight to win versus a fighter who's fighting to not lose, you cannot go into business playing to not lose. Like I can't go in there just trying not to fail, trying not to shut down my business, trying not to fail, because at best you'll maybe be okay to where maybe you're not in the red and you'll just have this kind of subpar business at best. What's more likely is I'll end up failing. Versus going in there thinking I'm here to win. I'm here to succeed.

By all means necessary. Totally different thought process, different decision process. It's a very, very different way of being. So those are the three things that I've identified as being the most important. And I've seen people like this who've worked for me in the past. And by the way, you could be a great leader. You could have all this amazing leadership potential, but that doesn't mean you're gonna be an entrepreneur either.

You could just maybe be a great leader within the business. I've worked with both types of people and I've worked in different companies where immediately I knew inherently and would still bulldoze through because of the way I am, but I knew inherently like if we're starting to add all these risks and we're trying to mitigate our risk right from the very beginning, that's a bad sign. You're not an entrepreneur.

You're not cut off for this shit. Well, that's all they focused on. That was the main focus, right? It's the main focus and everything they can do, they have the plan, the plan, the plan, the plan. And it just, in my experience, has never worked out for the best. But on the flip side to that, so very skillful, very much knowledgeable,

but it's hard for people to realize that this is a totally different animal and that, you know, these same skills and applications that have gotten you so far working for a company like completely don't translate to entrepreneurship. So it's a humbling thing. You know, it's a humbling thing for a lot of people to, you know, go through that. So I give props to anybody that at least tries it out and they're, you know, in that other type of personality where like they really thrive more working for somebody.

And you can be in the middle, by the way. Like you can, you can have a job that is entrepreneurial like, but is not full on entrepreneurship. Like you could be like a real estate agent where you work with, you know, brokers, you work for, you know, whatever, you know, century 21 or whatever. And you work with brokers, you work for whatever, you know, century 21 or whatever, and you still have to be self-motivated, but you also have some of the tools owning a franchise. That's a little bit more entrepreneur, but you still have

the products provided for you. You have the training materials, you have the advertising provided for you, so that's another step. So there's different levels of entrepreneurship that you can embark on. I can definitely spot somebody, especially by their verbiage. Like when you talk to somebody who's having a challenge in business, how they talk about their challenges tells me so much about if they're a true entrepreneur or not.

Because it's crazy. You'll see a lot of people who get into entrepreneurship thinking that they are for it. And then you ask them about their business or things that are going on. And when they explain the struggles or the hard parts or the things that they're not doing well, or they put a facade on like they're doing so much better than what they were all. So the fake entrepreneur, it fakes is, fakes how good he's doing or blames all these other factors on the lack of their success versus owning why their business or what they're trying to do is not succeeding, which I think, and that kind of ties back to

some of the things that Sal was saying that you you've got to be this this person who is okay with failure and Embrace is it when it happens like fuck yeah, that was a stupid decision I made like I made that decision. I thought this was best for my business fucked up onto the next thing like this is what I'm doing now, you know and you and you own those failures Versus, oh, you know, just the market isn't really good right now and just I'm having a real heart I mean I ordered this and it was supposed to come through and it was just not you know, you know, just the market isn't really good right now. And just I'm having a real heart. I mean, I ordered this and it was supposed to come through and it was just not, you know, and, you know, people are totally trying to,

with blaming everybody else, but what you're currently doing. So I can always tell somebody that was meant to do it. I mean, when I look at the team that we're building here now, I mean, I tell you what, like in the at least in our space in the fitness industry, I'll put our starting five against anybody else's starting five. That's how confident I feel about who I work with and the team of entrepreneurs.

We're powerful. That we've put and surrounded ourselves with all the way down to people that are behind the scene that people don't know about that. I mean, these people are all the core that we have now are all individual entrepreneurs that are responsible. And we knew that if we were going to grow this thing to something great that it would require that, like, we're not even, we're barely getting to the place where we have people on staff that are just there for

little jobs that are hourly wage that just, okay, you do this and that's all you do. We don't need thinkers and entrepreneurs that are wanting to help grow this because this thing needs to grow. Ask yourself if you're wondering this. First of all, if you're wondering, if you're an entrepreneur or not, I don't know, is that a bad sign? Maybe. I tend to think entrepreneurs is that a bad sign? Maybe. I tend to think entrepreneurs tend to be like, yes,

but then again, self-doubt tends to kick in a little bit, but ask yourself this, how much do you value autonomy? You know, how much do you value the ability for you to do whatever you want and make decisions on your own? If you list your things of your priorities in terms of, here's the most important things of your priorities in terms of, here's the most important things that I value in my career,

and autonomy is not number one, then you probably shouldn't be an entrepreneur. Do you read the instructions? Yeah. That's okay. Well, it's a good determiner. Entrepreneurs value autonomy more than anything. I have to, I'll tell you something right now,

I have made fucking way less money because I valued autonomy over a paycheck where I'm like, you know, I had offers to work for companies who were gonna pay me way more money than I was making, but I couldn't fathom the idea of not having that autonomy. I'd rather make less and have my own freedom to do what I'm going to do with my belief and my potential. Which I think the 20% that I was talking about

earlier, fall in that category. A majority of them, to be honest, are just okay with, hey, you know what? I probably could go work for another company and make more money, but I like that. I like the ability to come and go as I please take vacations when I want, work extra hard when I want to make more money Let off the throttle and make less money when I don't want to and I enjoy that freedom and I'm okay with that And there's nothing wrong with that. I think you you you it's plenty okay to be To have that mindset. I think there's a I think a lot of people mistake that you know, you're gonna come in and you're gonna make all this money

a lot of people mistake that you're gonna come in and you're gonna make all this money by running your own business and they don't realize how challenging it really is. What about when you guys first realized that you were? What do you remember? I know I just was joking. I was, it was day one. 100%.

When I first started working as a personal trainer, I did very well right off the bat, quickly became bored. Fitness manager did well, got bored, went into sales, managed gyms, quickly got bored, bought my own, and that was it. So I was 21 years old when I first became an entrepreneur, and I realized very quickly, and the good managers, by the way, and this is a hats off to some

of the excellent managers I've worked for. and this is a hats off to some of the excellent managers I've worked for. Don Cardona was one of them. John Romeo was another one. Dean Papis was even like this with me, where Regi Allison was like this, even where they recognized early on if they left me the fuck alone, that I would do great. If they came up and tried to manage me, that I would just perform terribly, because I could not stand it.

And that's a, I think that may be a trait amongst entrepreneurs like, leave me alone, let me do my thing. Yeah, trust me. And I will do way better than if you're on my life story. Yeah, and I didn't even realize that, because that was always like how it went for me in every sport I was at.

Like so, coaches quickly realized that the less they coached me, the better I performed. And it came to a point where sometimes I would have to actually explain that. You know, and I would tell them what time it was, but like, and I never, also I'd never quit anything. Ever, like that was one thing that always stuck with me,

like, you know, through the times of the, you know, I would persevere regardless. And I know that's like more of an athlete type of a trait, but I feel like that definitely applies into business. And like you said, being scared of failure. Right. So can we talk about that? I've never, that's just something I thrive in failure.

You know, like I want to press my boundaries and work my way through tough times. You just reminded me of a big mistake. I think I see so many entrepreneurs make too, and I think I've said this before on the podcast about loving your ideas and not marrying them. And when you look at the statistics on the fail rate of 80%, of, you know, 80%

and if you are an entrepreneur and you're going to be that, even if you are that guy and or girl, every millionaire or really, really successful entrepreneur that I ever met, none of them, I don't know one. I'm sure there is one out there, but I don't know a single one that hit it out the park the first time. Most of them have had racked up tons of failures first. And so I think another mistake that some entrepreneur, some aspiring entrepreneurs make is they have a passion for like a job, like let's say personal training

and that's what they wanna be in. So they like, I wanna be a trainer and I love helping people. And want to run my own business. I don't want to work for anybody else And so they try and run their business and their ideas or their way of running their business is is failing and you're either Growing or dying which first just so you know, so if you're looking in you're reflecting on your own business And you're not growing you're fucking dying And it's hard for people to swallow that. And then the next hard thing to swallow is, maybe I should not marry this idea and I should move on to the next one

because I'm an entrepreneur, I'm a serial entrepreneur and I'm okay with the fact that this idea failed and I'm on to the next one and I'll see how that works and I'm gonna apply that and I see people hang on to things. You gotta be okay with being wrong, right? That's such a big thing. Like, you know, that's where the self-confidence,

I think, comes in because you can be self-confident with an idea and be like, this is the greatest idea ever. I'm gonna put this out and it's gonna fucking work and then it doesn't work. And now you're like, I'm crushed, I'm not gonna try again. Whereas real self-confidence is, this is a great idea.

I know it's gonna work. Oh, it doesn't work. I know I can figure out a different way now. Figure out a different way. I can make it in another time. Maybe it's, you know, whatever it is, like, you know, you, like you say, don't marry yourself to that as like the one failure

equals, equals zero. It's actually comical if you think about it. It's really comical. Like when I, when we started Mind Pump, okay, we started this podcast. All of us in this room had almost zero knowledge of podcasting. We had almost zero knowledge of how to apply

and even let's do the radio. We didn't know what the fuck we were doing. We didn't know the odds. We didn't even look up the odds. I think we just said, let's just do this. And we've learned a lot of lessons along the way, and it's been okay, that's been a great process. Looking back, it's comical, like, if you go,

if we had a group of guys that came in right now and told us, hey guys, we love Mind Pump, we wanna start a podcast, and you say, what's your experience? What do you know? And they said, well, I don't know, we don't know, we'd be like, well, you're an idiot. Like, you don't know anything.

But that was us. That was literally us. We knew nothing of what we're going to do except the fact that we felt we had a passion for what we're going to do. And we were confident in what we're going to do. And we were okay with failing. In fact, when we've told this story before,

when mind pump, when we first started mind pump, we had a major setback before we even launched the show. We had a major, major setback, and I'll tell the story again, because it's been a while since we told this story, but when we started the show, there were four hosts. Craig Capurso was one of the original hosts of the Mind Pump that was never launched,

and we recorded 15 episodes with him. That's a substantial amount of episodes. That's a lot of episodes for people who've never recorded episodes before, especially. Well, think about that. At least 15 hours worth of recording work and then Doug's backhand. We're gonna, I mean, it's a good amount of work put in

just to get to. Not only is it that, but a big part of our original plan, a huge part when you write your business plan out, which we didn't write one out, but we talked about a huge part of the business plan that was gonna give us a chance at succeeding was Craig Persell's social media presence. His social media presence destroyed all of ours, combined.

Second closest with Adams, it was Adams, and Adams wasn't even anywhere near the ballpark of craigs. And so we were like, okay, we understood that in order to make it in social media or podcasts and whatever, you wanna have some kind of a foothold, and that was craig. And right before our launch, craig calls us up, drops out, doesn't wanna do it because it's afraid as sponsors aren't gonna like it, whatever.

We have to start over from scratch. I got we got the text all of us got the text. I read the text and I was like fuck we lost our social media presence. So now we're just going to fucking launch in the dark. What are we going to do now? We've already recorded 15 episodes. We have to start from scratch. I was fully prepared to have a motivating conversation with both Adam and Justin and Doug. I was gonna get on the phone with everybody and try to convince them to keep moving forward. That was my idea, like, okay, well,

I'm not gonna fucking stop. I'm gonna have to talk these guys into it. I got on the phone before I could open my mouth, before a word can come out of my mouth, it was either Adam or Justin, that was like, fuck it, we're gonna start over. Literally. And the other guy was like, let's do it. And I was like, holy fuck, like this is beautiful.

This is an amazing thing. And of course, looking back it was all serendipitous because it worked out the way it was should. But, you know, that's just, it's just, and it's been like that. The road has been like that this entire time. We've, we've, we've done, most of the successes we've had with Mind Pump were, you know, Adam likes to call us idiot savants because we Kind of like savants. Yeah, because we don't we don't you know, but we're doing it. We're going at it

I think there's an there's an element of Artists that comes out as an entrepreneur as well totally to where you get to be innovative Yeah, and you're just passionate about your idea and that just drives you You're so passionate about it that it drives you to create and do and whatever you're gonna do, regardless of the money, because I'll tell you something right now, we recorded mind pump episodes for a fucking year

before we made a dime. We would meet up and devote hours of our time to doing the show, editing it, Doug had a job, full time job, I've got kids, Justin's got kids, we're all doing other things. Why did we do it? Because we loved it. We were passionate about it. And I'll be honest with you, my pump could reduce its production of revenue by 90-something percent.

I'll probably still want to do it. It's a fucking great time. So there's a lot of things that drive you as an entrepreneur That you don't have that external motivation. It's kind of within you. Did you guys ever go because I actually had a moment growing up where I Didn't want to be so at one point You know the very first thing I ever did to make money for myself was when I was 15 years old my mom Had a drive was me and my best friend at the time. We started a lawn mowing service. And I went door to door and got all these accounts.

And you know, we didn't have our license. So our, you know, my mom would, we'd put the lawn mower in the back of my mom's minivan. And she would drop us off at the end of the street. And we would basically push ourselves from door to to the each account that we had that we because we went previously before that door to door, fliering knock we actually knocked on doors and talked to the people in person which was let me tell you it was probably one of the smartest things we did is a 15 year old boy at that time I don't think we realized that how smart that was but I think back now like got a two young 15 year old boys knocked on my door

and like, we're trying to start a business where they had their flyer and they're like, this is what we do. Like, I'd have a hard time saying no. I can say no to that. Right, right. So, like, such a, so. We've met a couple people, a couple kids

who have been impressed with. One was the young lady from the actually adultish podcast. Like, this girl's just a little hustler. You could see she's got that entrepreneur who's drive and spirit, and she'll probably do well at some point doing something. And then there was that other kid, I can't remember his name,

he has a podcast as well, and he was the one with a nut butter. Oh yeah, Travis. Yeah, Mars, Mars, Mars. He's also got that, like you can sense it in him. He's got that where you meet him and you're like, fuck you're gonna do you're gonna do pretty well. So yeah, you can tell but I went so that's how I started right so that's like 15 years old then when I was

16 17 and 18 I worked on the dairy I don't on a ranch and I was pretty much like the ranch and so I was like you know They did everything is everything from Shovel and shit to welding to you know orchard stuff to milk and cows you name it so And I and I got to know that the family really well and it was a husband and wife and they had three kids and I got close enough to actually get to see them open their books. And I saw the revenue that they made and how much money it took to run the business. And it really discouraged me because when you're a young kid

and you're employing, you're just getting your check every week. You think they're just fucking rolling you. Right, it's the same thing I know that we, I have already felt that from people with mind pond that just think like, oh, because they have the studio and they have this now, they're like, oh, they're just revenue is just they got all kinds of money that they have.

Like, no, it doesn't work that way. Like, that's just not how business works. Like, you know, the, the more you got going on, the more revenue that is, is going out to provide all that. And that gave me a, a new perspective on, on this. And I was like, man, fuck, they don't get any they didn't have any days off. They were seven days a week year round seven days a week. Could never because cows got to be milk twice a day. Twice a day, they've got to got to get milked. And I was there. I was there. I was hired on there. So was another friend of mine. So they had two employees that worked for them. And we were there to give them some sort of relief so they didn't have to literally work seven days a week

so they could actually take one day off every now and then. But they made just enough money to give themself a day or two off, not even enough money to go put themselves on a family vacation or even leave or doing like that. So I was just so fascinated by what it took for them to have to provide for their family and even be able to pay a $4.50, $4.50, you know, two kids to come in and work part time for them and see the life they lived. And I thought, fuck, I don't know

if I want this. Yeah, I don't know. And they worked hard and they were organic milk. Dude, they were the fifth organic dairy in California at the time. So there was only four others at the time. So talk about even having a brilliant idea. We had organic almonds, we had organic milk. And that is actually how I learned about organic. Even what organic was until this time, because at that point it was at the very beginning.

And so, talk about, and both of them had their degrees, so they were both very smart, hard working, had a great idea and vision on where the market was going, and that business no longer exists. They have that house there, and the dairy has been shut down. I haven't talked to them in a really long time, and I know they went different directions, but I saw them run that business for about 10 years.

10 years, they ran it like that, and never saw this, never made tons of money. It was just, they basically just got by, and worked their asses off just to get by. And that gave me a whole new perspective on- On childhood, yeah, on some glamorize. Exactly, and it really gut checked me on, do I want that?

Do I really want something that could potentially, I could be doing that I love or is my idea, but may just put me in a position to just get by. And I think a lot of people think they want to be an entrepreneur because again, it's glamorized. You think that it results in all this money and vacation and traveling. And when reality slaps you in the face,

and you don't take vacations. Right, we don't take money out of the business. If you do that, you're done. Right, business is done, it's tough. Most will tell you, most entrepreneurs, especially successful ones will tell you they've worked harder and more hours for themselves and they ever did for another person.

So, I think a lot of people gotta have a gut check first before they decide, are you really an entrepreneur? And the real, like just born to be like entrepreneurs, you can't talk them out of it anyway. You know what I mean? Like we could have this conversation all day, someone could have this conversation with me and say, listen, Sal, fucking impossible.

They're gonna fail. It's expensive this hour of times. And I'm gonna look at them and shake my head and be like, yeah, Sal, fucking impossible. You're gonna fail. It's expensive this hour of time. And I'm gonna look at them and shake my head and be like, yeah, but I'll be different. Like, yeah, you know, those true entrepreneurs, maybe a better human being. I think they're gonna be entrepreneurs no matter what. Well, I mean, the other day I was rattling off the stats,

right? I don't know if we released that episode yet or not. I know it will come by the time this one does, um, about the, you know, people, how many people run a, you know, $100 million company and how small of a number that is, and that doesn't scare me, that excites the fuck at somebody like me, because I'm like, fuck yeah,

I wanna be one of the only people that, yeah. Yeah, so you have to be somebody that gets that, right? That someone tells you, no, it's so hard as that, and it excites you, it doesn't scare you. If it scares you, you might wanna look deeper into that. Especially the self-made guys. If it turns you on, like, oh yeah, fuck yeah.

You mean to tell me that 1% of the 1%ers get there? Fuckin' A, I wanna do that. You know, versus, oh shit, I didn't realize it's that hard. Yeah, yeah, it's exciting. Check this out, go to YouTube. That's where you'll find some of the videos that we've referenced in this episode. It's mind-pump TV, subscribe to the channel.

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