Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 596: Eating to Build Muscle While Losing Fat, Fitting Priming Into a Workout, the Functional Patterns Guy & MORE

Episode Date: September 15, 2017

Kimera-Quah! In this episode of Quah, sponsored by Kimera Koffee (kimerakoffee.com, code "mindpump" for 10% off), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about the most efficient way to include MAPS Prime & Prime Pro without spending a lot of time, eating to lose fat and build muscle, thoughts on the Functional Patterns guy and how to handle people telling you what you should or should not do with your lives as if they know better. Guys talk things that make them laugh (3:18) Guys talk who they attract (9:00) Sal - old ladies Justin - face of WWII veteran Adam - soccer moms Adam yoga certified? / Guys talk yoga (13:27) Adam tells story of trainer on cruise he recently went on (23:40) Guy trying to sell insoles Cause of acute pain is due to lifestyle choices (30:50) Adam’s uncle potentially working with Jessica Jessica interning under Dr. Brink Foot strength Guys talk Organifi Green Juice (42:05) Quah question #1 – How do you recommend using MAPS Prime/Prime Pro, without spending hours working out? (45:13) Order of operations What is your priority Quah question #2 – How do you change the re-composition of your body, without adding body weight? (55:27) Quah question #3 – What are your thoughts on the Functional Patterns guy? (1:06:15) Stuck in who's the best Camp Quah question #4 – How do you guys handle people telling you how to live your life? (1:13:40) Misery loves company Related Links/Products Mentioned Study Shows More Men are Doing Yoga - Do You Yoga (article) Organifi Coupon Code "mindpump" U.S. consumers now spend 5 hours per day on mobile devices (article) MAPS Prime/Prime Pro People Mentioned: Dr. Justin Brink Premiere Spine & Sport (@premiere_spine_sport) • Instagram Functional Patterns [Official] (@functionalpatterns) • Instagram Joe DeFranco (@DeFrancosGym) · Twitter Bret "Glute Guy" Contreras PhD (@bretcontreras1) • Instagram Would you like to be coached by Sal, Adam & Justin? You can get 30 days of virtual coaching from them for FREE at www.mindpumpmedia.com. Get our newest program, MAPS Prime Pro, which shows you how to self assess and correct muscle recruitment patterns that cause pain and impede performance and gains. Get it at www.mindpumpmedia.com! Get MAPS Prime, MAPS Anywhere, MAPS Anabolic, MAPS Performance, MAPS Aesthetic, the Butt Builder Blueprint, the Sexy Athlete Mod AND KB4A (The MAPS Super Bundle) packaged together at a substantial DISCOUNT at www.mindpumpmedia.com. Make EVERY workout better with MAPS Prime, the only pre-workout you need… it is now available at mindpumpmedia.com Have Sal, Adam & Justin personally train you via video instruction on our YouTube channel, Mind Pump TV. Be sure to Subscribe for updates. Get your Kimera Koffee at www.kimerakoffee.com, code "mindpump" for 10% off! Get Organifi, certified organic greens, protein, probiotics, etc at www.organifi.com Use the code “mindpump” for 20% off. Go to foursigmatic.com/mindpump and use the discount code “mindpump” for 15% off of your first order of health & energy boosting mushroom products. Add to the incredible brain enhancing effect of Kimera Koffee with www.brain.fm/mindpump 10 Free sessions! Music for the brain for incredible focus, sleep and naps! Also includes 20% if you purchase! Please subscribe, rate and review this show! Each week our favorite reviewers are announced on the show and sent Mind Pump T-shirts! Have questions for Mind Pump? Each Monday on Instagram (@mindpumpmedia) look for the QUAH post and input your question there. (Sal, Adam & Justin will answer as many questions as they can)

If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. Mite, op, mite, op with your hosts. Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. In this long-ass episode, I loved the long ones. Of my pump, for the first 40 minutes, we have some fun light conversation. We talk about... We talk about laughing at people at horrible things.

I'm kind of guilty of laughing at things I probably shouldn't. Me too, I'll admit it. We talk about Justin's likeness to World War II veterans in terms of his face. It's just the face, that like profile. He's got to listen to put this one together. Really weird.

Then we talk about Adam Sacroman Wheelhouse and his cleaning product line The imaginary one that we came up with on the show that we will never do for real We talk about yoga. We talk about yoga. We talk about insoles and the importance of Feet and then we mentioned also Organified that's one of our sponsors by By the way, if you go to organify.com, or rganifi.com, and enter the code MindPump, you'll get a FET discount.

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We actually provide the answers to this and how you can kind of mold your life around these things. Then we answer the question, how do you change the composition of your body? In other words, you don't lose weight but you gain muscle and burn body fat. Do you need to recomping? I haven't heard that. That's it. Do you need to be in a surplus in terms of calories or a deficit?

Find out the answer in this episode. Then we talk about our thoughts on the functional patterns guy. This is somebody on Instagram who's got some great information who has been a little dickish lately. Then we talk about how Adam in particular handles people telling him what he should

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You know, I have this mean thing that I do still. What's up? That I feel bad about. It's not even something I do. It's a thing. It's a way I think. That's kind of mean. So there's actually there's two things that I will always seem to always laugh at that I feel bad about. What do you mean? What do you mean? It's mean, dude. It's a mean thing to laugh about. But like when kids are in public and they're crying, but they're not like hurt, they just have that like, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha,. Every time I laugh, but it's really mean, because the kid is obviously in distress. And the parent, it's normally fake crying.

And the parent, that's why it's funny because the kid is parents' ignoring them, because it's like ridiculous. It's like, here's a watch that YouTube video where the, the kid's crying and then the mom walks out the room. So the kid stops and then walks around, finds mom falls on the floor, so she's crying again. That's what kids do, dude.

Totally. They do that all the time. And then the other thing that makes me laugh is, uh, mean, is when people fall and pop up. Oh, it's the best. It's what is that about like injury and stuff like that that we find comical. Why is that?

It's not injury because when I see someone actually remember like it, remember like the three stuages like half of the the comedy Skip was like hitting each other on the head and like poking their eyes out right like what what is that that so? Funny about that for us I don't know it's gonna fuck that I saw that we enjoy watching somebody else get hurt So I saw I might even told this on me all do I might even said this on the podcast ones I saw an old lady fall in the parking lot once from the one the gym that I own and you laughed dude, you know why I laughed you would have laughed too. You're going to hell. She fell but I'm not

Exhaustrating. It took her a full minute to fall down. It was it was the slowest fall I've ever seen in my life. She like she has she kind of tripped and she's like She's like, she kinda tripped and she's like, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, and I was like, and then did Dij and then her legs went up in the air, B. I was like, oh shit. Yeah.

That's terrible. I've seen a couple of those. Those are great. The slow motion falls. Yeah, the slow motion ones. Oh man, it's just like. Did I ever tell you about the time I threw a basketball directly at an old lady's face? What?

Yeah, okay. Now you've crossed the line. No, no, no, no. Let me tell you a story for this happened. So when I used to manage... Intentionally? No, not in touch. Oh, it's like, whoa, dude.

So it was an on purpose. You guys are like, fuck, that's not even... But just the still laughing. So as a manager, I had a few, when I used to manage gyms, there was a few hallmark things that I would do. And one of them was, is I would have fun with my staff every day,

and I'd fuck with my staff every day, in a teasing way, and we'd have a lot of fun doing it. It's just what I did. And so I had this front desk, dude, that worked for Miss Young Kid, and, oh God, I already know what happened there. I had poked fun, I fucked with him all the time. I already knew what was coming.

But it's because I had the kid. You know why? It's because you're not athletic dude. You made a bad pass. Well, I guess I kinda did. I already know dude. So let me see what happened. So-

Hey bro, look out. So he was on, he was always, I put him under my wing, so I would tease him on top of it. And I was behind him while he's standing at the front would tease him on top of it and I was behind him While he's standing at the front desk and I got the basketball and I meant to bounce it off the back of his head But he was fucking sharp dude. He knew it was coming. So he like you moved and yeah Right in the face dude. Oh my god, right in the fit right in her glasses. Bube Right in the face in her glasses.

She covered her face with both of her hands. Oh my god. That really happened. And kind of bent over and held her face. Did she cry? And for a split, like for a split second, I was like, how can I blame this on someone else? Yeah, how you got this?

Yeah. But I didn't. I took the plan. Oh my god, I'm so sorry. I didn't mean to do that. Yeah. But. But. You had to do something to her. No, actually, you never,

you never free membership, I probably sold her something afterwards. Oh my God, I've been so afraid. I was probably like, hey, listen, because I hit you in the face with the basketball and accident, what I'm gonna do is offer you a discounted rate for some supplements. And I noticed your posture's a little certain way,

you know what might help with that. No, but I felt horrible, but it was also funny when she I found when she wasn't hurt, but the fact that she got hit in the face. Yeah, the basketball. Oh, that's epic, dude. It was really bad, dude. There was no animosity, huh? She didn't like that.

I would think she'd be pissed. She got mad, but then I'm adorable to old ladies. So she was okay with it. Like seriously, no joke, dude. If there was a contest for who could attract the most old ladies When I say old I mean like 70 and older yeah, I would kill everybody. He can have that vibe. They love me Dude, I believe that for what I don't know what it is. Yeah, I don't know what it is either they love me You get the weirds. You just want to feed you young and then they're really old maybe I'm liking them

I get the soccer moms Soccer moms love me dead They're all younger than you want to feed you where there's original. So all day, just shove it in your mouth. They're all where there's original. Yeah, just have that face. That's what he probably brings up that face. Paint your cheeks and then give you a little, little

where there's. Take off my panties. Oh, Sunny. Oh, Sunny. You're a good kid. Yeah, one of them grabbed my butt in the grocery store. I told that story before. Oh, you did tell it, right?

I remember that. It's just the thing that I'm good at. So I'm hoping it grabbed my butt in the grocery store. I told that story before. Oh, you did tell us, right? I remember that. It's just a thing that I'm good at. So I'm hoping it's like that when I'm 90. You know what I mean? If they stay still the 70, 80 year olds, now I'm retirement home, you know, you're gonna get some action. Now I'm, yeah, I feel like Justin would be good

with that area. With older, I do. I do. The elderly bit of that, yeah. Yeah, because he's kind of like a a there's a kid like quality about him He's you know he's adorable a little bit. I feel like I remind him I remind them of those pictures of like I'm like every guy that like came back from World War two. Yeah, I have that kind of face Like everybody always says I look like like somebody who came back from World War Like you know those old pictures like where they're like that's very specific. It's very. I swear to God

Like you look like my great uncle, you know, fucking carol You said I mean who served in Korea. I swear everybody tells me stuff like all the time I'm always like walk around so you don't look like you remind me of my grandpa. You don't look like a Vietnam vet No, like a World War II. World War II American coming back from, you know, Germany. What just so happens to be the one war everybody's like, that's the best war in the fuck. It's like I'm coming back ready to make babies.

You know, and they realize that. Yeah, they do. And you still get the soccer moms, Adam? Yeah, I don't know what it is. Soccer moms like me, dude. I don't know what that is. It's always been, and it's been that same. I've witnessed it. I know, I've seen it. You're not making it up. Yeah, no don't know what it is. Sockermombs like me, dude. I don't know what that is. It's always been and it's been that I've witnessed it I know I've you're not making it up. Yeah, and it's been that way since I was 20 dude. It hasn't changed

You know 20 25 30 35 they still stay right around that wheelhouse, right? Getting closer to that age now. I witnessed that I have we were out or something and it was a group of them There was a what do you call a group of soccer moms? It's just I don't know like a coug fest Yeah, a gaggle. I don't know But but I saw that I saw there was literally a gaggle. I don't know if that's right word of soccer moms and we were walking by me Adam and Justin and We were we where was this I don't we're on the the Campbell maybe. And they fucking started hollering at you.

Like cat calling. Yeah, like pretty aggressively. Yeah. And I was like, I thought, and so at this moment, I realized I'm like, Adam, you know, I thought in my head, I'm like, he's full of shit. And then after I saw it, oh fuck. No, it's real.

It's real. I feel like we're missing an opportunity. You should be like on a cleaning product or something. Oh wow. You know what I mean? Just put Adam's face and body on there. That was so sexist. What?

What? Because soccer moms love me, they're both. They have an unacleidie body. Whatever it is. Oh, stereotype. I'm a businessman. Okay, that shit would sell. Don't kid yourself in America.

You know, I stick with the old. Adam's cleaning supplies. I think they would do well. And wait, look the fuck out. I said, and wait, the fuck out. I might put a flannel on and saw some fucking, you know, like paper towels and shit. You do look more like brawny than the two of us. I'm pretty briny.

Yeah, I couldn't sell shit, but olive oil. Yeah, you would be an olive oil for sure. I'll say, balsamic fucking sal. Sardines. So it was arty and stuff it with the saline. Yeah, so much, any salad dressing you do well. There was a movie where there was this Where the couples went on a trip. I can't remember what it was it was

Relatively recently although my timeline is skewed when it comes to movies because the other day I was watching the matrix I didn't realize it was over 20 years old. Oh, oh shit. Is it really 20? Stop dude. I just I grew life 10 more gray. It's like 15 or 20 years old. It's old. Oh my god like you live 10 more great. It's like 15 or 20 years old. It's old. Oh my God. No way. Actually, I think it's 20. I think let's find out when the matrix come out.

Let me think here. I'm trying to. Ignorance is bliss. I guess we were high school. Were we high school? Yeah, the original matrix came out in 1999. So it's close. Yeah, my senior year in class of 20 years.

Holy fuck. So there was a movie with where couples went on a vacation together and then the wives had took a yoga class, they were on some Caribbean Island and it was this kind of tie-in to teaching them yoga and his name was Sal, so about to it. And he was such a greasy douchebag. That's like the second or third time someone with my name in a movie has been displayed that way. And it's always some kind of a trainer. I wonder how much that makes an impact on others because you know that show that

movie is probably watched by millions of people. And so now people have this image of what Sal probably is like, it's your haters feel that way. Yeah. That's how I teach yoga. Because in the movie he's like, he'll like grab their butt and adjust and be like, feed it right here. That's how you feel about that.

Did I ever tell you guys that I actually paid for all my like official yoga certifications and I had this business idea. This is when I was running the bootcans. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. So did you ever go through that? Listen to what I was gonna do. You're really gonna get yoga certified? I will do it.

I paid for it and everything. So listen to what I did. I don't know. Talking, this is so bad, right? This goes right in line with what you're saying though, Justin. So I had ran, I had all these boot camps all over the Bay Area. And absolutely 80% of my clientele was the 35 to 55 year old, you know, soccer mom is what I had. And I remember thinking like, dude, you know what, I bet you a lot of these ladies would pay me top dollar to come have that teach them

one-on-one yoga in their house. And I would roll up with like my little basket dude, like if like fucking candles and incense and like fucking little radio. Everything dude. And show up and have my saute, like in the back exactly. Like the candle. Yeah, you know me.

And I believed so much in this that I actually paid for it, had it all lined up. Steupon me, I get it right in the middle of, I'm on this bulk and I'm in the middle of like, putting on a bunch of size on, I'm like tooth, this around when I was like 230. It's just way too flexible. Oh, yeah, and I'm like, the reason why I didn't do it,

and I stopped, I was like, I can't do this at this point. Right now where I'm at in my life with this whole big, big, big bulking up, it's so conflicting with yoga that if I'm gonna do that and do it well, they have to take me seriously. Like of course, I'm playing to the whole soccer moms that probably like me training them or what I thought, sure I'm playing into that, but I have to be at least

about that. Yeah, I'm gonna play it, provide some thought. And I am not stupid enough, and I'm saying, I'm not like a total horror. Right, exactly. Like I'm gonna get good at my craft, too. But, and so I just accepted that there's no way I'm gonna get good enough

to take myself seriously to go and teach it at people's houses. Right. So I kind of bailed on I just I lost the money. I think I spent like 400 something bucks. It's not a cheap certification. Have you taken yoga classes? Yeah, I have. Yeah. The yoga class. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I've taken a few. And think about them. I think they're great. I think what about the meditation part and all that stuff to every taking classes like that? Yeah, So, and think about them. I think they're great. I think. What about the meditation part and all that stuff? Have you taken classes like that? Yeah, I've done with the last, at the very end,

like they put you in like a line, whatever, I forget what they call it. Savasana. Yeah, whatever. Or as I like to call it, salvasana. Yeah, and you lay there and you meditate. You lay on your back. It's the one pose I do perfectly.

So, I mean, I love yoga, I love everything. I do happy. I love everything about it. But when I go go to a class I can't help but look around and think the same thing that I think and I say on the show all the time is that You know all the people that are really really into it are the people that need it the least and the people that aren't in there need it the most and It's just I feel that way about a lot of of Different modalities of training or exercise is that we gravitate towards what we love and what we're good at or whatever and then we stay in that.

It's like, I look over and I see all these super limber, you know, chicks that love doing yoga five, six days a week, but then they're not lifting any heavy weight. So their strength is whack. So you know the yoga, so I took yoga. And by the way, that's a total overgeneralization. I know that, you know, because it's actually changing. Right. So I took yoga relatively consistently.

And what I say, relatively consistently, I mean, like once or twice a week, for a period of over the course of I'd say six months, seven months, maybe even a year, kind of spotty. And I hadn't taken yoga classes since until relatively recently, where I went back to some yoga classes and the one big thing that I noticed, way more men in the class than before. Way more men. And I've been looking up statistics and the makeup of people who take yoga way a lot more men are starting to take it now. Whereas before it was all women, now you're starting to see more guys start to take it, which I think is pretty cool. But I think we're starting to accept the benefits behind it. I mean, I think that it was kind of in that category of a little

woo-woo, not that long ago. And I think we're beyond that. I think there's enough science and enough people have spoken outwardly about the positive benefits of yoga that, you know, even the meathead bodybuilder guy starting to put that together that there's some. Maybe I haven't seen too many. I'm usually like by far the mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean when like you, I think belongs in there more than probably everybody, and by belongs in there, I mean needs. I need it. Yeah, they need, you need it more. Yeah. But, but I did not, I'll tell you what I had a bad experience in this particular place. And I've taken yoga from probably about five different places. I've probably done yoga. And this one school, which I won't name, because it's really, it's pretty popular here in the Bay Area. And I won't name it because I know a lot of the instructors and they're really nice.

Try to try to hate. No, I don't want to hate on them. But they, they totally, a couple of their instructors and their students, by the way, really created this cult like, you know, spiritual righteousness attitude when they would see me, the, you know, spiritual righteousness, attitude when they would see me, the proto, you know, the visually looking like a Meathead walking into their class. Like scoff at you like, no, there's the meathead. Yes, the one that came in. Touches toes.

No, no, no. I actually had a teacher laugh at me in class. Oh, wow. And poke fun in me in class. Well, piss me off. And, but she didn't, she thought she was being playful and I have a strong enough sense of confidence that it didn't bother me, the part that bothered me. So what happened was I was doing a pose

and she's walking around correcting people and throughout the class she'd have to come and help me and I've got good body awareness. I just can't get into certain positions. It's not because I can't, I don've got good body awareness. I just can't get into certain positions. It's not because I can't, I don't know the body awareness. I just can't do it. So she come over and correct me. Every time she do it, she giggle a little bit like Sal

and she come over and do it. And she say it real loud, right? And she actually even know my name. She even say Sal, she giggle and come over. So by the time this happened like three times, she kind of laughed a little bit and was just like, you know, you know, you can, you can, you don't necessarily need to do all the poses because they're, you know, because you think you have to. And she kind of laughed that she walked away and then some of the

women in the classic until they were looking at me like, you know, yeah, you should go back to weights or whatever. And I don't care. And I don't care. Again, I laugh on myself and I have no problem. Like I said, I'm pretty self confident. The part that bothered the fuck out of me was that this was a business. Right. And I owned a business. And I remember thinking like, you fucking morons. Like, this is horrible.

This is opportunity. Because, like someone like you, you don't know, you can turn you off so bad. Not only are you not ever going to come back, but you're probably going to talk bad about it to all your guy friends that you know, which is turn you off so bad. Not only are you not ever gonna come back, but you're probably gonna talk bad about it to all your guy friends that you know, which is gonna decrease the chances of having anyway. Yeah, they're feeding into the cultness of it.

That's why I never got in. Well, I felt bad for potentially an overweight woman that comes in there or someone who's very insecure, who may get that vibe, which by the way, I've heard. I've heard people say that, like, oh, I don't like to go to that one because everybody's so pretentious. And sure enough, that's the way I've heard, I've heard people say that, like, oh, I don't like to go to that one because everybody's so pretentious. And sure enough, that's the way you feel.

And you see these women that walk in there, you know, with their Mercedes and their fucking expensive, you know, yoga outfits and none of them, you know, all, they're in the middle of the day, they don't work and they, you can tell them all, and I think that's the vibe that I would get, which is ironically so anti-yoga and what it's supposed to be. That's why I got into mobility. I was, I don that's the vibe that I would get which is ironically so anti yoga and what it's supposed to do.

That's why I got into mobility. I was I don't want any of that bullshit like I don't need any of the spiritualness of it. I don't need any of the you know the the pretentiousness and the pants and all that shit. You know, I don't need just as he no fucking pants. Fucking pants like pants are for pussy. Like I'm out on the field and I'm doing drills It's all mobility. It's all the same shit It's just like they they make it into this like religious practice and of course I'm speaking completely in generalities

But I actually I I like the idea of it. I just don't like the cult that's around it Cole so cold attitudes Can become created and developed around anything. I was gonna say it. Yeah, so you'll find out with resistance training too. I'm sure if you find, I'm sure people will tell you, oh my God, I went to the gym and tried to lips and some free weights and all the fucking meatheads, looked at me funny, made funny,

made funny, made me, you'll get that experience almost anywhere. And the spiritual side of yoga is actually amazing because if you think of yoga as, and of course there's versions of yoga that are, quote, unquote, strengthening and, you know, yang types of yoga, but the Yin types of yoga are, they're designed to kind of put you in a parasympathetic state, relax the body, teach you how to breathe better. So that's the spiritual side that they add to it, right? Because like if you're lifting weights and you're lifting heavy, you kind of want to go in there with some, you know, some energy and some intensity, right?

Because it benefits it. With yoga, you don't want to go into yoga with that energy intensity. You want to go in into it with this kind of relaxed, centered state of mind. So the spiritual side of it feeds very well into that. But when people turn it into a completely different. Yeah, it becomes a lot of other alternatives that, you know, you can get that same experience if you just like work on your breathing, you work on like, you know, releasing a lot of that tension and not going into, you know, these mobility drills and stretch and drills holding on to that intensity of it. So I just, I really annoyed too with the fact that people go into these like hot yoga

and all these like super extreme, like power yoga and they're trying to like, I feel like that defeats the purpose of it on a lot of levels. Like a wood with any form of exercise. Where you just go in there to fucking win, you know what I mean? You know, this is totally off topic, but it's just reminding me, did I tell you guys about the,

at the, on the cruise, the trainer that I was like watching him? No. Okay, so they actually have like a gym there and they have a staff of trainers. I mean, it's a cruise every day, six months out of the year. So there's, they actually have a full personal training business that's being ran. And they live on the boat.

Yeah, they live on the boat, right? It's so crazy. And I thought, dude, that'd be an awesome. That's a single dude. Yeah, for a single, I'd be all about it. Oh, that'd be fire. Only that sucks is like, you know, if you're this ice in the single young dude, I was singing him like, man, I feel bad for you because you have the Alaskan cruise,

which is like, nobody under the age of 50, except for all on there, right? Yeah, silverbacks. Totally. So anyways, they had this, you know, you get a free personal training schedule, like, you know, they give out all these free training sessions. And a guy that I was gambling with the night before I see him. And I'm in there. I'm in their little group acts area right there. And I'm doing my own stuff. And it got my headphones on. And I see him, his wife and his young young boy who's I think like 12 years old,

they're all on their, you know, this personal training, you know, free appointment and the guys, you know, giving his whole spiel and talking about nutrition and, you know, pulling out all the charts and like, you know, telling them how they're gonna die and stuff and you see, right? Here's your timeline, right?

Right here, it ends. Yeah. And then he goes out and he he and I've never seen this he goes and gets this big I don't know what you would call but you know like the like you when you when the thumbprint, you know that you do like Put your thumb on and then you do your thumbprint. Oh, okay. I don't know what you call those pads Oh, I don't know. I don't know. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. It's a giant ink pad like this. Oh shit, Let me guess, he put his feet on them. Yeah, so he has them walk and then they hit the ink pad and then they hit a white piece of paper right afterwards and then he can see, then he should break down their foot

and shows where they're. What a, when they're pressure is. Oh, it was brilliant. What a great sales. But exactly, right? It was a brilliant sales tool and I had such a hard time keeping my mouth shut because I'm sitting here Listening the whole presentation and just all three of them getting wowed and then outcomes the insoles

You know and they make sense Sales them all custom insoles got this fucking come 14 year old kid wearing insoles and You know, I'm kind of doing my own thing and I don't ever like get in people's shit because I've been doing this for so long that I like you I'm on my vacation. I don't want to talk fitness, but sometimes there's things like this and I'm like, oh yeah, that would eat at me. Right. It's eating at me.

I'm sitting there and I'm like, I'm not going to say anything. I'm not going to hate on this guy's business. I'm not trying to I'm not not that guy, but if they ask me something, I'm going to say something. So I'm like exercising, I'm totally acting like the stalker guy I grow, and I'm like exercising closer. Looking over your shoulders. I know he recognizes me from playing poker earlier than I, and I'm like, so I'm exercising, and I've got my headphone,

like one headphone off, so he can keep gliding. Yeah, I'm receptive. And then he says, hey man, how you doing? And then like, hey good man, say, how's your little train session going like, oh my god, we're learning so much. Like, yeah, really? Like, yeah, you got to check this out. I mean, yeah, I'm not really in the business

of like selling people in sales. I'm in the business of helping people with the room. Oh, and he was like, oh, oh. And then I explained what we do and didn't, my told him everything. And I said, hey, check this out. I explained what we do and didn't my told him everything and I said, hey, check this out. I said, this is all free information. Go listen to this, listen to that. You know, I don't know if it's a really good idea having your 14 year old boy wear in souls, right? Yeah, I mean, cockblocked that you know. I did. I totally did. And I totally would not do that.

It's not my style to do that. But I just, that's way too obvious though. Come on. Right. You have to say something. Well, I just feel like that and and he did such a good job that they were so out. There we are. Yeah. Yeah. Cause it is a core. Right. I mean, my is overplace of magnets. Well, the first part is great. What a cool tool. Right. Yeah. Like I could see how that could be very useful visual tool to show someone what's happening with their foot, but then to take that and then turn it into... Yes, talk about ankle foot mobility.

Yeah, how do we fix this? So what do you guys think about this when it comes to using insoles? Because something just kind of came to me with that. Obviously, if you have an issue with your foot and you're trying to correct it with insoles, are you doing as you're creating a crutch? Not only a crutch, but you're going to make the imbalance worse because now you're completely removing any of the muscles of the foot and the ankle and all that stuff. What if you gave someone an insol, but then you taught them to activate muscles with that

insol and then slowly reduce that insol until the point when they hit. So in other words, start them where they're at. The likelihood though and the problem with that is that you'd have to be with coach and the mold. That's not gonna happen, right? If you put it the whole point, but could you see what I'm saying there? Yeah, I know, I totally get where you're saying,

well, this is so what you do with that. And they make very cool training tools for this. Like you can do, like, let's say someone has an excessive pronation in their foot. You can take these little foam wedges and they make them and you like and you would put the wedge under their foot to level their foot out and strike the way it's supposed to and then they do like a single leg toe touch or whatever. So then you remove it and they think exactly then you remove it and so there's

lots of there's tools out there to help aid that progress but I would never recommend someone putting an insult in their shoe because then your mindless lot walking around and we know what's going to, then you know it's going to happen then is the body is for training, not just like, like, yeah, happen routine. Then the body's going to end, people don't understand what you're doing there, but if, if you have a dysfunction in the foot like that, and now mind you, I'm not talking about something that's like, you born with, like if you're weird and you have only dysfunction in the foot like that. And now, mind you, I'm not talking about something that's like born with, like if you're weird and you have only two toes or something like that

and that throws you off balance, like you're not weird. Exception, you're not weird. I'm just a fan, just a special. You just offended all the two-toed people. All the two-toed people. Well, we see a huge dip in downloads next week. Yeah, what happened last week?

Well, out of the cases, you were You were two toe people. Damn it. So, yeah, I mean, if you got something that you're born with and you did totally different on the time about that, but if over time you have created some issue, which, and normally by the way, it's knee or hip or back issues, and then you go see, you know, an orthopedic surgeon or something and they tell you, oh, yeah, I know your foot's all fucked up here. Let's do this surgery and then we can put this in soul in, which that's what, that's what eats it,

that drives me crazy because you didn't, you weren't born with that, something happened where you've lost connection somewhere in your foot that's not allowing the muscles that you need to help support you and keep you in neutral spinal line. It's off and you can't retrain that and get back. You can get back to that. And, you know, yeah, it's tedious. Yeah, it takes a little bit of work. But I mean, I tell you

what, it's going to keep you off of having to do surgery. It's going to keep you from having to wear insoles and potentially causing other issues on the rest of your body. It's going to keep you from doing cortisone shots., it's gonna, it's gonna, it only makes sense that most of our chronic ailments that we have today are the result of just our modern lifestyle, you know what I mean? Oh totally.

I mean, just it just makes sense. Like any, if you look at any of these chronic ailments that we have, whether it's, you know, back pain is super common. Like that's a super common ailment that people will have, that it's, the cause is just our modern Lifestyle which in modern lifestyle is in activity and in certain positions that were in you know all the time This is true for anything like you know, it's crazy. I was talking to my uncle this weekend and you know

He's been he's been diving through our business like crazy and he's very well aware of a lot of the message that we put out there and But he hasn't listened to Hardly, any podcast of any of ours. And so he just, he doesn't fully understand our message. And we're talking, and we were talking all business most of the day. And then he brings up about getting ready to potentially work with your girl. And I'm telling him, absolutely Casey, you need to do that. She's been taught by South, she's listened to every mind pump episode,

she's for sure a reflection of a lot of what we talk about. I said, not only do I think it will benefit your body, I said, it also will help you with all the sales, funnels and things in marketing that you're creating for us. Because you'll know our business better. Yeah, you'll really understand our business. And when she starts to apply some of these things to you, I know the way your brain turns and works, it will give you lots of ideas.

And he was like, yeah, yeah, you know, this was crazy, right? And he's like, I just know that a big majority of my problems are stemmed from my extra weight that I'm carrying. So I just want to lose the weight. I'm just going to start running. He goes, I'm going to start running, right? So by the way, he's had, you know, he's had neck surgery, low back surgery. He's had hip replace. It's such a common answer. Yeah. He's like, I'm gonna go run and I'm like, no,

don't you dare do that. So you want to know why I referred him to her? Because some of the things that she brings to the table that that she's excellent at, that I've learned from her, are the things that he will, he needs the most help with. So the whole slowing down, functional flexibility, when to apply exercise the right way. Plus not to mention, because, and I hate to say this, but it is true, sometimes men do better working with women because they don't feel the need to

kind of have their show off. Yeah, because a lot of times if a guy trains another man, that guy who's being trained sometimes wants to lift more because he's with another man. Sometimes when it's a woman that happens to, but other times with the woman, they'll feel like, okay, I can kind of show a little vulnerability because she's training me and you know, and I think that would have been perfect. Oh, especially if it the super decondition. You know what I said to him,

this is what I did with it. I said, take your shoes off, take your socks off right now. I made him and my aunt do the same thing. This is the type of stuff Jessica's gonna do with you, right? I said, this is your thought process. Let me show you what it would really be more like. And so I said, take your shoes off, take your socks off. I walked him and I said, I walked him and my aunt

over the wall. I did the prime compass test on them real quick. I said, okay, you know, feel this, feel this, this for your posture is supposed to be a little bit and I walked him back over and he has this hallway that's probably about, I don't know, from here to the end of the wall here, so about 15 feet. And I said, now that I had him all barefoot,

posture upright, I said, now what I want you to do is you're gonna walk to that door over there, but I wanted to take you 30 minutes, I'll be back. And he was like, huh? He was just like, what? I said, yeah, man, and I wanted to take you 30 minutes. I'll be back. He was like, huh? He was just like, what? I said, yeah, man. And when you every step you take, I want you to think about it. And I'd kind of give an example of how I wanted him to walk like hell

or slow and just being mindful of his entire body and his posture and the things that I just showed him against the wall. And I'm, well, this is where you need to start. You need to start here. You need to address just becoming aware of it. I wonder if he hasn't called her back yet. Yeah. No, they actually talk today, I guess.

That's where I run, man. You know, you know, who she's interning or just kind of volunteering with right now? Dr. Brink. Oh, really? That's great. She's in his office right now and she's just helping out and basically just so she can observe.

And, you know, Dr. Brink is just such a generous, fucking cool guy. So he's like, yeah, coming out. He's just, he has a plethora of knowledge. Oh, dude, if you could just, if anybody could go and just sit there and like observe, you'll come out of one day, more information that you can, you'll get months of taking other courses as much as you can.

He's my go too, man. There's something that I can't figure out with a client, 100% and most any of my clients that are listening to this, they've probably already met him because if they or definitely they've had an issue, because if I can't get to the bottom of it, like that's the guy I go to to reach out and help me, or if I got something going on with myself, you know, because that's it's great when you meet someone who not only teaches you new things and it feels that you feel that you're an expert in. That's awesome, by the way. If you feel like you're like a fuck, I know a lot about my job and I've been doing it for

years. And then you meet someone who teaches you a bunch of new stuff about your job. That's great. But what's even better than that is that they change the way you think about the way you do things. Bring literally did that. It wasn't just the information that I learned from him. It was changing how I think about things surrounding fitness and functions.

It's changed 100% as changed the way I talk to a client too. It's changed the way I- Squat assessment, all that. Look at the feet and ankles. I look at it totally different now. In fact, that's a pretty example. Take the squat assessment, all of them. Look at the feet and ankles. I look at it totally different now. In fact, that's a pretty example. Take the squat assessment. Some of the squat assessments,

some of the way we've been doing for, fuck, almost 20 years to people. The first place I've always been trained to look is like head hands and their shoulders. I don't even look there anymore. No, yeah. It's like, to me, the feet tell me so much more about the rest of the body that it's the first place

I look. And I think that, you know, being somebody who's been in this field for as long as we all have, it's probably one of the most neglected areas because I've gone this long without really diving that deep into it to really fully understanding grasp. And it was so funny when he enlightened me and showed me all the issues that I had been dealing with for as long as I had and then connected them to my feet. It seemed so obvious. I was like, it was one of those like hand-to-face,

like, oh my God, like, how have I not piece this together? Like, duh, of course. Like, I've been wearing shoes like every day of my life forever, like, of course I've lost a good connection to the ground and like, what would happen if I wore fucking snow gloves? And my toes don't have to look like this. Right, what? Right. What?

What? Right. I'd say what? Freaking crazy, man. Do you think just that it'll save you from having, learning what we've learned, save you from having to get like any type of, because isn't you say you might have to get surgery

or something? Yeah. Like my dad basically got every single toe broken. Like so he could flatten them out because they're curling excessively underneath his foot. So this hammer toe, sort of, yeah. So I fucking, I will do everything I can not to get that. Sounds like a badass wrestling move, but it's not.

Don't hammer to. You don't want it. Did you say they had to get him like broke? Like they broke all of his toes. Oh my god. Yeah, because you're fucking out. And you say they had to get them broke, like they broke all of his toes? Oh my God. Yeah, because you're fucking out and you want to do it at the same time. Dude, you're both gonna go through.

You want to go through. Yeah. And then they have to break them to fix them. And I could visibly see it happening. You know, it's like, oh, like I have anxiety about a couple of things. It's my toes and then it's my teeth. It's the teeth. Wow, the teeth. The teeth. So it's a good thing you then it's my teeth. It's the teeth.

Wow, the teeth. The teeth. So it's a good thing you don't have my teeth. Now because of that, do you make a conscious effort to go barefoot more often because of that? I mean, is that so? Totally and like spread them apart and lift up onto my toes and getting beast position and yeah, all that shit,

I'm like on it because yeah, that's one of those things. I'm always thinking about the state of my toes and my teeth. Well, it amazes me when I after seeing brink and then go addressing all the issues that I have and then starting to actually see some progress and make some good moves and making seeing my squad improve and then my ankle moves and making me see in my squad improve

and then my ankle mobility. And then starting to strengthen that, I realized, God, how weak my feet were. My feet were just pussies. I still can't do that. You got pussies feet, man. Yeah, I can do short foot seated pretty easily now. Standing is still very difficult,

but seated I can kind of do it. I don't know if you guys mess around with it, but one of my favorite things, and I know I did a post about this maybe about six months ago that I have incorporated into my training that I like it because I feel like I'm getting to do something work on a couple of things while also, because foot strength just sounds boring, right?

Let's be honest. Who wants to go to the gym, like hey, I'm gonna work on some foot strength. In some foot drills. Right, so if I can find ways that I can finish, I can incorporate it with something else. I really enjoy it. So the tippy toe squats have been a game changer for me because it allows me to work on my my hip ankle mobility and then my foot strength all at the same time. And it's actually kind of fun to do it. I'm actually squatting.

And so then I get some, I definitely get some leg quad drive going in there. So it's not like I'm just doing some basic foot exercises. And it's kind of cool to be able to stabilize on your tippy toes like that and squat down with decent weight on your back. It's not that easy. And so it was fun to progress doing that

and see how much carry over it had and everything else. See, I do a lot of foot exercises when I'm sitting. I've made it a habit now. So like, while I'm sitting, if I'm watching something, if I'm reading, if I'm writing, while we're podcasting, I'm constantly doing things with my feet just to kind of, you know, try to get better connection. I noticed that my foot was so flat and so pronated, that first thing I did, I strengthened like short foot so I can strengthen the muscles inside the arch of my foot,

worked on my ankles, because that also caused my ankles to fucking cave in. But now what I'm really noticing, my pinky like doesn't do shit. Like if I just relax, my pinky is almost off the floor. Like it's not even making contact with the floor. It's very calm. So I'm like consciously gripping the floor

with my pinky each time. It's a long, slow, arduous, boring, shitty process, but I'm starting to see some things. Why it's not in P90X. Yeah, I mean. Well, I think if you just do little things, like what we're all saying is you just start to incorporate your first become aware of it.

I think and most people are just unaware. They're unaware, like myself, that was a major issue. Like, had I known that that was a major issue 10 years ago, I'd probably be much further along today than I am now, but, you know, because I would be doing these little things like I am right now. I, since we've been sitting here, I've kicked my shoes off already,

and I'm moving my toes, and I try to be bare, I just make a conscious effort to do that. We're in the past, I wouldn't my shoes off already and I'm moving my toes and I try to be bare, I just make a conscious effort to do that. We're in the past, I wouldn't even think to do that. I would just sit there and relax. Right. I don't think to take my shoes off and I can be exercising my feet while I'm also doing it. That's a good point because I'm, yeah, subconsciously, that's always in the back of my

head. So I'll do drills and I'll do things as I'm just hanging out at home, you know, and kind of waiting around or watching TV or whatever it is like I'm always kind of like mobility is on my radar You know whether it's the hips or our feet because a lot of driving I have to counter a lot of my seated position driving and especially striking with my right foot constantly Yeah, which one of you two took all the fucking juices? I mean I took it I took one I went through like two the you want to the fucking juices. Yeah. I mean, I took one. I went through like two of those. You only take one also?

Yeah. Okay, well I've taken two. Can I be honest of all the, because obviously we're sponsored by Organified, so they provide us with all this product. It's a good thing. We had tested and tried it, whatever. The one that I was like,

and probably not gonna use that much was the green. I know, isn't that funny? And that's my favorite. That's my favorite. That's my favorite one. I know. I didn't even think I would be using use that much was the green. I know, isn't that funny? And that's my favorite one. That's my favorite one. That's my favorite one. That's my favorite one. I know. I didn't even think I would be using it that much,

but that's the one I like the most. No, it's, well, it surprised me how well it tastes. I have, I've tried, it's so refreshing. I've tried green juices, all kinds of different brands, and I've never found a brand that I really like, and then to where it, to first, make me consistent about drinking it, because it's one of things too that you got to do kind of consistently first, right?

So it's not like a drink it and then I'll send you, oh my god, my workout, like when you take creatine, right? Somebody who's never taken creatine before and they go take creatine and they go. Within five days, you're like fuck, you're way stronger. Right, right away, and within your workouts, you typically notice it right away. Something like this, I feel like you need to be using it for like a week or two consistently before you really start to be able to go, oh, wait a second, you know what? Now that I think about it, I haven't had to take a nap.

I haven't been like, down with this. Yeah, it's like the energy is what I know. And so now I'm experimenting with because I was doing it once a day. Once a day, once every other day, again, because I wanna really see if I'm noticing any benefit from it, again, I like the taste, like the ingredients. And of course, we like the company with the stand for. But I started doing it two days times a day

and three times a day to see if I notice a difference taking it more versus taking it less. And the energy is one of them. It's like a kind of sense of well-being. And then my gut health is like, fucking amazing and I can't think of anything else I've really changed aside from that. And of course my nutrition is good and everything else is good.

So it's not like I, you know, I just threw that in. Well, everything else is good too, but it seems to be really affecting my gut health very, very well. And it makes sense if you look at ingredients and stuff, but I didn't expect all that. Well, you did say it, and I think we all agreed when we first did a sign with organify that we said,

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An eagle has landed! Quee-quix! All right, our first question is from natural, healthy warrior. How do you recommend using Maps Prime and Prime Pro without spending hours a day working out? This is a good question. And I think that your house, I don't, I thought we kind of talked about this when, when we first discussed prime and how we all use prime and prime pro. To me, it's like I pick things and I have like an order of operation.

Like I'm just like anybody else. I have a ton of imbalances and areas that I can improve upon that will make my well being much better. Any sort of nagging pains I have, I can address those if I put the time and effort into it. You just have to look at it like that. How important is it? If I have aches and pains, things that are limiting me from exercising or feeling good throughout the day, like that's a high priority. So in fact, to become such a priority, it becomes more of a priority than even my training session. But if there's areas where you're not really hindered, but you know, you should be working a little bit. Well, then you intermittently put them in with your workouts, but this is so individualized

because I absolutely can see where some people absolutely could be and should be spending hours probably working on Prime Pro. And then other people that it's good to have that in your arsenal and kind of weave in and out using it and using the techniques. Yeah, because it really just depends where you are. And the benefit to these programs is really finding out kind of where you are. What you're capable of, what you're joining integrity consists of,

what your mobility status is, it's just good information to acquire. And then that way, when things kind of lead up, like, there's a buildup. I used to bench press quite a bit. And my goal was to bench press like 400 over 400 pounds. And so my goal for a while was just, oh, I'm just going to rip as much weight as I can. And, you know, there was a lead up of tension in my right shoulder. And I just felt this impending of tension in my right shoulder. I just felt this impending issue that was gonna arise out of this. And if I had this type of a program

to then apply proper priming, pre-post, like really help to support my shoulder completely, I probably would have been able to reach that goal and stay in, you know, what I was trying to accomplish. So I got hurt. I can kind of understand where they're coming from with this question because if you're learning about health and fitness and wellness, you're hearing information like stretch this

much all the time and you gotta do this cardio and you gotta do this resistance training. Oh, if you lift, make sure you figure out your imbalances so you correct them and make sure you eat this way. And so people are like, oh my God, how can anybody do this unless they don't work unless they don't have a life? That's what they think.

Here's two things. First, let's put things in context. It's be realistic. I'll use another statistic that'll explain what I'm talking about. The average person, average person in America spends around two hours a day on social media every single day, okay? That's the average person. More than that by the way. Teenagers spend even more than that, and I just read another, you might have read statistics that say even more. Okay, so but that's valuable. So, right, so first off, you have time. It's all about

prioritizing and making time. So let's not forget that. Okay. Second off, it's all about how you live your regular day, which is much more important than the time you take a side to spend, you know, with a structural workout. And what I mean by that is, let's say you think, oh, I need to do 30 minutes of cardio or 40 minutes of cardio every single day. Well, instead of doing that, instead of taking 40 minutes out of your day

to go to a gym or get on a bike or get on a treadmill and do cardio, what if every two or three hours you went for a 10 minute walk? Just that's it. Every two or three hours, you have an alarm. Okay, I'm gonna take a break and take a 10 minute walk. By the way, there's a lot of shit you can do while you're doing a 10 minute walk. Just that's it. Every two or three hours, you have an alarm. Okay, I'm gonna take a break and take a 10 minute walk. By the way, there's a lot of shit you can do

while you're doing a 10 minute walk. So if you think, oh my God, I can't because I need to get on this call or I need to answer these questions on email, guess what you can do while you walk? You can do all those things. So all of these things can be implemented and incorporated into your life. That's why fitness is a lifestyle, not because you're this devoted maniac

and you devote two structured hours of data exercise, but because your life is structured around making it so that you're a healthier type of individual. The correctional elements that are found, and I'll just talk about maps prime and prime pro because that's the person talked about them in the question. Taking those correctional elements and applying them to yourself, you can do that

throughout the day, like prime pro, for example, once you discover the correctional movements that you need to do for your body and prime pro, you can devote literally five minutes, I don't know, three, four times a day on doing them, which is not much time. 90% of those movements and exercises that we have in both those programs, I actually don't do it structured like my work.

You can do them anywhere throughout the day. Yeah, I do them throughout the day and I do them according to what my bodies tell me. Like, I know I've got all these little issues going on, everything from my ankle pronating to percytis in my hip, to a little bit of a forward shoulder on my right side. I mean, I've got all these little things, right? I've got the golfer's elbow on the other side, and I know that if I'm neglecting it,

those things all start to get exaggerated. And so throughout the day, if I actually can feel one of those things, I'm getting down and I'm doing my 90-90s and I'm doing combat stretch and I'm doing these little movements that I know will help get me reconnected to the areas that are causing these nagging pains in my body.

And so which is all the stuff that's in prime and prime, pro. Yeah, it's like standing and sitting. I mean, it's whenever you think of it, like there's a couple of moves that you can just do on the spot. So whatever you're doing, you're sitting, you're working on something, you could be in a 90, 90 position, working on your computer. I mean, there's, there's all kinds of different ways to implement this. Well, it's all set. It's lifestyle. That's a perfect example right there too. Like, I mean, there, ever since I, ever since I went through all this myself and realized that where this percytus in my hips

was coming from and why and what I could do to help it, if you ever catch me sitting on the ground now, I won't just lay on my side or lay how I used to or sit in the insta. I'll get in a 90, 90 position and I'll actively work on it while I'm sitting there. Like it's not like strenuous work, but me just putting myself in that 90-90 position and getting connected, pressing my knee and ankle down, elevating internally and externally

rotating my hips, winding that position. I mean, I'm working on it. So you just start to treat it more like that versus this daunting long you know regiment we struck so people had the guy exactly yeah we had to write something for somebody to follow right because you can't just get something and be like oh well do it whenever you know you feel like it right right it's cool don't know that way like you need you need some kind of a structure so we we provided that as an initial sort of foundation but but definitely make it work for your everyday life. I'll tell you what, if you're looking,

here's the routine general structure, and don't forget that the difference between individuals can be pretty dramatic, but generally speaking, if you're looking for a relatively decent level of fitness, health and longevity, where you look healthy, you're relatively lean, you feel good, your workout, or excuse me,

your workout schedule will look something like this. Two or three days a week of structured, maybe 45 to 60 minutes of resistance training, and the rest of your training, your flexibility, your cardio, your correctional stuff can be put in throughout the day and put around your day. In other words, you don't need to structure and take out and carve out an hour of exercise except for maybe resistance training because that kind of requires that.

You can't necessarily build muscle and get stronger here and there because just because you don't have access to weights, unless you're working a gym, then maybe that might work a little bit too, but maybe probably not. So you don't need to devote a shit ton of structured time to fitness and exercise. It's really, most of it is just like we're saying throughout the day.

I even did this yesterday. Yesterday, we were in a meeting with a company now that's going to be handling our social media and internet presence. And the meeting was from 10 a.m. to 2 p.m. Now I have a very difficult time sitting in a chair and paying attention to something. It's just very difficult for me, call it ADD,

call it whatever, it's very, very tough for me. And so in the meeting, a lot of times I was standing, I put my foot up on the chair and I do these hip stretches and movements movements and it actually helps me pay attention. You can do this when you're working on your email, when you're on your computer, you can sit in a particular stretch, you can activate the muscles of your feet, strengthen your posture, you can do all these when you're watching TV, when you're having a conversation with your spouse, me and my girlfriend many times, if we're just hanging out and talking, we'll

be on the floor and just kind of go in through stretches. It doesn't need to always be these hardcore, structured, you know, type of sessions. In fact, the super frequent practice is probably more effective, especially on a correctional component. Oh, for sure, I agree with that.

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Next up is say, own one. How do you recomp your body? In other words, lose fat while gaining muscle. Are you supposed to be in a surplus or a deficit? So re changing the composition of your body means basically, let's say I weigh 180 pounds, and my body fat is 20%, which is pretty high for a guy. Recompening would be, I drop 6% body fat, so now I'm 14% body fat.

But my weight is the same, but my weight is the same because I've added muscle to replace that body fat. So I think it's important to note that first of all, it doesn't work like it's not happening at the exact same time, right? So if you're catabolic at the moment, like you're burning fat in your not building muscle, but over a week or a two week time.

They trade off. You can trade off, right? So there's moments where you can be in a surplus or you just fed really hard, had a good training, you sent a good muscle building signal, you had a great training session, and so then you've sent a signal to build and you fed properly and put yourself in a surplus than the body is now growing. But then you turn right back around and go cataballic again. It's all about where your body, so if I'm, let's use that example again, 180 pounds,

I'm dropping body fat, gaming muscle, and let's say I'm consuming 2000 calories a day. And that's what I consume before too. The difference is in changing where my body uses and places those calories. It's literally prioritizing or changing the list of priorities. And you can see this, there's lots of examples of this. Like somebody who gets an illness can eat the same amount of food, all of a sudden lose weight because maybe they have a cancerous tumor. Or you can change someone's hormones, keep their calories the same, and they'll either

gain muscle or gain body fat depending on the hormone profile. You could do this through exercise as well. So the most important key to having your body change its composition without changing its body weight is in the stimulus that you send your body through exercise. You have to prioritize that signal. So that's like one of the main things that sparked the trigger sessions, right? Absolutely.

That's something that, if you think of the training element of it, it's definitely the frequency and it's the volume and it's the loudness of the signal you're providing that, yes, this environment is going to need muscle. It's going to need muscle to overcome this. Just having this push pull situation with your calories of kind of being restricted because yes, we don't need to store necessarily all the time.

So it's this push pull, these little sort of mini cuts bulk, kind of your playing. Yeah, you're gonna generally be aiming for, and I say generally because like what Adam and Justin are saying, there's going to be moments you're going to want to speed in surplus and you're going to play a deficit. I actually never, almost ever recommend consistent calories every day no matter what, even if

you want to lose fat or gain. I'm always recommending this fluctuation, but generally you want to aim for, if your goal is recomp without your body weight changing, generally you want to aim for maintenance. However, that maintenance number is going to change if you are indeed doing a good job changing your body's composition because if you are in fact gaining five pounds of muscle while losing five pounds of fat, the likelihood of your metabolism being the same as low, what's probably happened now is your metabolic rate has increased because you have more muscle so that maintenance is going gonna have to go up.

So the reason why this is so hard for people to do and why people will either just lose or just gain, it's because it requires constant observation. This is a lot harder. Yeah, this is next level shit right here. And this is why we don't talk about this very often. And most people will recommend either do one or the other, right, either bulk or either lean out. Like we definitely advocate a very slow, gradual leaning out

or bulking process or like what we talk about, the mini cuts, the mini bulks, which is pretty much creating that environment. This is also how I like to use a carb cycling. So if this is a goal of mine, I just did it not that long ago, or you know, I've changed my body composition without letting my weight fluctuate more than a pound or two, and that's what I'm trying to do when I do that is like, okay, I'm going to lean out right now,

and I don't want to just... You base it more off your rigorous activity. Yeah, and so what I'll do is, and I do like the carb cycle so I'll have these Lower and when I car cycle like I actually when I drop the carbohydrates I allow that to also be my lower calorie where some people who replace the calories were with fat I'll actually let that be lower calorie because the goal is to burn fat too So I'm gonna have two days where I'm gonna be kind of lower calorie catabolic I know for sure for two days in a row, and then I'll have a higher refeed day, and I try and tie that around major muscle groups

that I'm trying to focus on or a good training session. So, you know, that has been a good strategy for me to be able to monitor myself closely and make sure that I can do that while also trying to lose body fat. But yeah, this is a tough, tough thing black belt level. Yeah, it is. And to be honest, in the long term, because initially when you first start training a client

if you're a good trainer, in the first month, you'll probably see recompt. Like I can't tell you, I've had people want to lose weight. And usually in the first month, I don't let them lose weight. But when I test their body fat and stuff, I'm like, oh, it looks like you actually lost a couple pounds of fat, but you gained a couple pounds of muscle. And that's just because they were deconditioned. So that was the other piece that I was gonna add to someone trying to this.

This is not only is this black belt ship because it's challenging on the monitoring side and the tracking and what the boys are saying, but it's also black belt on the level, the psychological piece, because when someone sets a goal to build muscle or lose fat, they most of us attached the scale number to that. So it's really tough mentally for a guy, let's say a guy, a young boy who's trying to put his eyes on. And I remember

being this young boy trying to put weight on. I just wanted to be 200 pounds. No one ever, I didn't say I had to be a certain, but I just like, I never seen 200 pounds. I had such a hard time gaining weight. I just wanted to gain weight. And if the scale wasn't moving, I assumed I wasn't eating enough. And so that was my only indicator.

When really I could have been right on track building muscle, but that fubs with that, and vice versa. And more so the other way, right? It's more common that we hear, you know, the guy or the girl comes in and that needs to lose a bunch of weight and they're looking at the scale every single day. And even though they can be doing much better not moving like Southside, like keeping them the same, it's tough to keep people focused when the scale is not showing them the number that they want, even though what's really happening is really good and they're making great

progress. It's still slow in the grand scheme. It's always a conversation I have to have with people before, during, and after the process to explain to them, you know, what's going on. But, you know, if your body wants to, this is, and nobody will debate this, if your body wants to use the same amount of calories that you're already eating to build muscle, it will. And because it's using more calories towards muscle, or what do they call nutrient repartitioning, I think, is the term that you'll use for this, you will lose body fat because your body now is going to be utilizing energy from your fat because you're putting more of the food

that you're eating towards muscle. If your body wants to do that, it'll happen. And you can do this with proper exercise to a certain extent. That's the key here. If you take someone and you have them lift weights properly to where their body's really getting this effective muscle building signal for their body, they don't even have to change their food intake that much. They're going to get leaner as a side effect of their body prioritizing muscle building with the

calories that you're consuming. So, you know, and the reason why I want to make a point of that is I think diet is extremely important, but we've made diet seem like that's the only factor to where your workout doesn't really matter. No, it's all diet. You know what, I was just thinking of like some other tips I can give this person of like, what are some of the signals at them that you're looking at when you're going through this?

And I'm like, okay, another thing that I, then this is a conversation I'm constantly having with myself when I'm going through this process is, you know, I don't want the scale to move. And I know that if I'm making better food choices and I know that my volume in the gym is the same or higher, I know I'm making good progress. I know things are happening.

I know that. My body is being fed better than it's ever been fed. So I gotta believe that all my systems are running better than what they were the week before I was feeding them that way. So you gotta think that your systems are running more efficiently, and then I know that my volume is the same or higher than what it was the previous week.

Change is happening. I may not see it on the scale, I may not see it yet in the reflection of the mirror yet, but if I'm paying attention to those things, and I'm really paying attention to them, I know good things are happening. And then you better believe if I can increase my calories and I can increase my volume of training and my scale still doesn't move, then I know I'm definitely winning.

I've increased volume, I've added more calories to the diet, scale is not moving, but I've added volume to my training and calories to my diet. We're building muscle man and we're just losing fat too. I'm a great example of this. My body weight doesn't change that much, relatively recently, so over the last maybe a few years, where I've really just kind of become in tune with my body. My weight will go between one, 84, 190 maybe. Rarely ever does it go over a bone one.

And I don't even weigh myself that often, it's just when I weigh myself, I notice that it kind of stays around the same. So my body weight doesn't change much but the way it looks can change pretty dramatically when my training is really good and on point when my gut health is good when my sleep is good. So I know there's some recompe going on. I know that it's more than just like the couple pounds on the scale. It's just sometimes I look in the mirror and I'm like, whoa man I look really lean right now and then I'll weigh myself and I'll be 190, which is a little heavier than I normally am.

So I'm like, okay, I guess I must have more muscle than I normally do. So, but yeah, this is a great question because it is difficult, but it's totally possible and it's all about the signals that you send your body which a big part of that has to do with your workouts. So if you have a good workout program where you're performing well,

even if you don't change your food intake necessarily, you may see some recomp going on. Next question is from that man ant. What are your thoughts on the functional patterns guy? Oh, here we go. The man ant. I didn't know who he was until just recently. I want to say was it Joe DeFranco, I heard him call out first.

I don't remember who I heard him talking shit about first. Brent Contreras for sure. Yeah, maybe it was Brett. And then I remembered a conversation we had with this guy. I don't remember this kid's name, but remember the fitness leader guy over at Club Sport. I can't think of his name. Oh, yeah. But he mentioned this guy and he talked all about it.

Oh, he's right. Yeah, he, he, he's, he missed this. That was the first time I'd ever heard of him. Yeah. And he was like, oh, yeah, I got into it with him this and that. You guys know this guy is. I'm like, no, I don't know this guy is and I looked him up for a second. I'm like, yeah, I mean, mean guys he's putting out some good information

But I was like okay, whatever never thought of him again. Yeah, well then I then recently I saw a someone tagged me on a post Where he's laying into Joe DeFranco and then another post where Bracken cherries Then I then I dove into his stuff. Yeah, and What sucks? This is what's a bummer. And I feel bad for him because I know he's on a mission to build his own little empire. And I think he's giving out some really good fitness information.

I think he's very knowledgeable. I think he's got a lot of good information. And he's using the tactic, like the, like the, you know, East Coast versus West Coast. All in the inflammatory. Yeah. Like, you know, let's start all the beef and battles to get attention. And any pub is great pub. And, you know, that type of works in the short term. It does. It's very short term, very, very short term. And it will get people to look your way in attention. It's unfortunate because I don't think he needs to do that. I think he's got great information. I think he can build an incredible community off of

some of the knowledge. I do though, okay, the one knock that I have. I do think that he's an example of some of the guys too that I talk about that become so married to their ideology or their modality that they probably could spend some time powerlifting or spend some time doing some of these other things. Now, he may not ever care to be that strong or run that fast or I don't know what his personal goals are. Maybe he doesn't want to build that much more muscle. He likes his physique where it's at. But personally, for me, I want to be a bigger, stronger guy. And, you know, I like that. And so I requires me lifting some heavy ass weight. Do I have a bunch of fucking imbalances that I should be addressing? Absolutely. I'm always working on those things. So, you know, I'm not a real fan of his, how he goes about doing things. I think he does give some good information out there for sure. And I think that his, how he goes about doing things, I think he does give some good information out there for sure.

And I think that his business would do better if he didn't use that as his only approach. Yeah, that's my share. His information is, I mean, he's a very smart guy. He's got some great information. I like the stuff that he posts. He just comes across as a big asshole. I mean, that's the, that's a, that's a problem because he's a problem because there's a lot of, and we know a few people like this in fitness,

I'm not gonna name any names, but we know personally, we know a few people like this where they've got good information, but a lot of people don't wanna listen to them because they're assholes. And here's what's gonna happen, I don't know this guy's name, I don't know the functional patterns guys, first name.

But here's what's gonna happen. That's his, I know that's his Instagram. That's his Instagram name. Yeah, his Instagram name. Here's what's gonna happen to you. Here's what's gonna happen. I know that's his Instagram Instagram. Yeah, his Instagram name. Here's what's gonna happen. Here's what's gonna happen. Here's what's gonna happen to you. Somebody's gonna learn your stuff,

and they're gonna present it, and they're gonna present it in a way and not be assholes, and they're gonna fucking blow up, and you're not, and they're gonna copy you, and they're gonna take a lot of your stuff. So that's what you gotta be careful for when a lot of your stuff. So that's what you gotta be careful for when a lot of your attention is coming from you calling people out and

talking a lot of crap. Now I know Mind Pump also has been guilty of doing this as well. However, that is not our MO and it's not the only thing we do. And we also make sure to point out. Well, there's ways to do it. And the good that's is in the slammer the way he died.

I mean, it's like, he just hasn't like calm down. You know, he's escalated. And I used to follow him ever since I got kind of pointed him out. I was like, oh, interesting. He's, you know, does a lot of rotational work and he, you know, tries to educate as much as possible like biomechanics and, you know,

proper way to, you way to joint should move. And it's good information. It's just like he really, really got into this whole like negative stint of taking down everybody else's methodologies and not highlighting any of the actual benefit that maybe there are some things to point out, right? Maybe CrossFit has some things that I have a problem with. And I'm more than happy to vocalize it,

but also I'm gonna admit some things that they did very well and that you could take elements of that and apply it and put it into your own programming and in your own way it into your own programming and your own way of training your body. So there's gems in a lot of these different directions that he's just immediately burning completely and trying to claim that his one way is the only way. Well, it's an example of a lot of what we don't like with academia.

It turns into this pissing contest on, you know, who's, who can argue the best? Well, you know, who's, who's modality is better, you know, who's way of training is healthier for the masses or whatever, who gets the most results, like it just depends on what you're arguing here. But I, it's so lame that we get into these, you know, boxes where everybody wants to, my box is better than your box and the way I do things is better than the way you do the shape. It's like, okay, dude, like I think what?

I'll read one of his posts, just so you guys get an idea of, like, he's just, again, he's making, and he's kind of, this is what he's getting known for, so far from what I've heard from other people, is focused around this kind of stuff. So he did a whole post on yoga. And he's like, your yoga is his hyper mobility and inducing is the next one.

You're still strictly relies on longitudinal stability to get you through each pose. Your yoga is bullshit. Just like all CrossFit is bullshit. Just like all religions are bullshit. Like, you didn't have to say a lot of that, dude. What? Right.

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and get a 30 day trial plus one free audio book. Lastly, you can go to go get natureblend.com forward slash mine pump and you will get a discount on Ben Greenfield CBD product. Next is Strength to Overcome. How do you guys handle people telling you what you should or should not do with your lives as if they know better? Oh, this was directed.

Is this the one that was directed to Adam? It was, and he went on to talk a little bit more about like I guess him and his wife have been together or her and his wife, I can't remember if it was the wife or the guy who was messaging this, but they said that they've been together for seven years and everybody's trying to get them to have kids. And the reason why I said, you know,

this is a hot topic for me currently is, you know, Katrina and I are 36 and 37 this year. And we've been together over six years and we're not married, we don't have kids. And those that have listened to show for a long time, kind of understand or kind of know my stance on the marriage thing and all that, have kind of openly discussed that.

And I have a similar stance with the kid thing is I just, right now, she is heavily motivated, career-wise right now. So she's climbing the ranks in her profession. I'm in the middle of building the largest business I've ever built in my life. So I just don't see, I don't see me being the father that I would want to be right now. Do I think that I can, and this is what people always like to tell me, right? Like, oh, you'll just make it happen, you know, like it's crazy. When you have a kid, like, well,

yeah, well, what if I don't fucking wanna do that? Like I don't wanna put extra stress or extra, I don't need extra motivation for anything in my life. It's so weird to me how people get insulted. Like personally, like they personally get insulted because you don't wanna have a kid. Well, so you know what the talking, you know what that is really weird?

Well, what that shows me and why I wanted to address this for this person and the way I handle this, cause it happens, it has a major insecurity on their part and what they're going through. They want you to be as miserable as they are. It is, misery loves company. And that's all that goes through my head when I feel like someone is so passionate to tell me why I should have

children and why I should be married. I go, or they're just insanely judgemental and they need to calm fuck down. Right. I think that they're probably thinking, like, you don't like kids? Why don't you like kids? You don't want to do that?

Why don't you, like again, like, why is it so insulting to someone? It would be like, if I asked you, hey, Adam, how come you don't own a pair of red shoes? I don't know, I don't want any. What? Yeah, I'd be like, okay, you don't want it. Like, okay, so I'm not even a person in sale.

So this actually hits me a little personally as well because not because I have kids obviously, but I have a sister who doesn't have kids and doesn't want to have kids. Now, you guys know my family, old school, traditional, Italian, Catholic family. And especially she's a girl, and she doesn't want to have children. You can imagine the pushback that she gets from or she got from everybody in my family.

Everybody, especially the women in the family who tell her basically in not so many words that your purpose for being here on earth, especially as a woman, is to have a child. Like this is the things at the tell, like what are you doing? You're gonna regret it. It's gonna be the worst decision you ever made. You're gonna be lonely when you're older.

You're gonna, you know, this, that and the other. And I tell these people, because I defend her. First of all, do what you want. If you don't wanna do something like, one of the worst things I think you could possibly do is have a kid when you don't want one. Right.

Like, what are you doing? Right. Make no sense to me. That's a horrible situation to be in. I could not imagine having my two kids and not wanting them. Right, right, right. That's when you get like, you know,

parents that are not there or, you know, disconnected. And that's saying that that's what you would do, but it's just weird. Well, and it's not even, it's not even the wrong reason. It's not even that, it's not even that I would even be afraid of being there. Because we've talked about this before, off air, that, you know, I'm not the type of father

that would be disconnected or not love my children. You'd be an awesome guy. Yeah, and everybody saw you would be such a great dad. And I believe that. But I also believe that I'm at a very selfish point in my life. And I also believe that there was there were certain goals, which, goals, which everybody has their own goal. So fuck you to come and tell me what my goals should or should not be. And I had a vision for myself a long time ago

on where I wanted to be in my life when I settled down and had a family and kids. And I'm not currently there. And I don't want to do that until I am. And that could mean I'm 50, that could mean never like to me, I'm open to all those possibilities. Like I'm not that hell bent on having a child or being married that that is more important. It's just not for me. And it sucks that I can't openly share that and say that that's who I am and just and and be recognized for being truthful and honest with with myself and others. Then to put on this pretend.

Oh, well, we're going to and I remember when Katrina and I first got the other. So she comes from a large Hispanic family and the tons of brothers and sisters and cousins and everybody gets together every weekend. It reminds me of when I did it a girl that was Italian and they had the same thing. They had this big family and it's beautiful and it's wonderful and I love all of them. And they have a harder time with it than anybody else. It's just, when are you guys gonna have kids?

When are you guys gonna have kids? It's because they identify, it's weird to me. Like they ask you the question, hey, do you know when you're gonna have kids, you's because they identify, it's weird to me. Like they ask you the question, hey, do you know, when you're gonna have kids, you answer, oh, we don't want kids, and immediately you owe them an explanation. Why is that so? You just struck on something, it's their identity.

Cause like, you know, after having kids, like, I mean, there's definitely, it transforms you, like you change. Sure. But some people identify way too much. A lot of that new. Bro, a lot of people identify with it as the greatest thing they have accomplished in their life,

which is weird. So I don't wanna be that. I don't wanna let's talk about the math. I don't wanna tell this my story. And the part of my story is the greatest accomplished mission I ever did was having my children. I'm sorry. I just don't want that to be my story. Like it may be it's yours, maybe.

And if you love your children that much, then that's awesome. And what's crazy about this is I guarantee you're offending some people on our house. Of course, of course. And it's, here's the thing too. By the way, this just didn't just talk, we're talking about the kids' question,

but this applies to everything like. The marriage sheet, too. Anything, anything, I get it for both the marriage., but this applies to everything like. The marriage to you. Anything, anything for both the marriage to you. Somebody doesn't want to live like you, but they're not affecting you in any of the way. Like they're not hurting you, they're not stealing from you, they're not whatever. Why does it offend you the way that someone else lives,

even if it doesn't affect you? It shouldn't. So always goes back to you. Like if someone tells me, and I've dealt with this myself, like if I've met people who I thought were super talented, super talented, smart, charismatic individuals who just don't give a shit about being successful,

and they'll tell me like, I don't really care, Sal, I just want to kind of work and earn a little bit of money. And I almost get offended like, oh, how dare you like, fucking work hard, man, you wasted the lowest talent. And I think of myself like, why, why do I, fucking work hard, man, you're wasting all this talent. And I think of myself like, why, why do I- Why do I- Why are you imposing that on me? Yeah, who cares, that's them, that's their choice.

That's where I'm at with the whole thing. Cause I mean, I could, you know, for my own experience, obviously, it's like completely different than yours. You know, I'm not gonna sit here and like, you know, like, like, impose that on you. It's like, that's ridiculous to me. Right, right.

Like, I completely like, even me having kids was like an accident, you know what I mean? We were like, we did not plan for it to happen then. Like, I was hoping to wait it out, you know, but, you know, we just rolled with it. And then it became, you know, what it is, but to kind of, to tell you, like, how you have this timeline and you have this

and you gotta make this happen. That's so crazy to me. I think people need to calm down. Well, and people do it with the marriage thing, they don't understand that part of me either. And the irony in all of it is the people who are telling me that I need to get married. They're divorced.

Or like the people, like I look at their relationships and I'm like, I want, if you're the one giving me advice And this is what you think I should do I don't want to do anything even close to that because I don't want a relationship anything close to what you have and You guys know me right you guys know me for quite some time especially you Justin I guarantee why don't know let me ask you you know if you were to name the the top five Healthiest relationships that you know in your life I guarantee I could treat and I probably crack the top five healthiest relationships that you know in your life. I guarantee I'm Katrina and I probably crack that top five for everybody in this room. Now you're number 67. And and I don't know at

least I don't know anybody else that has a relationship that I mean we've been going for six plus years. We've been through tons of stuff. We travel, we love each other, like the our communication is better than anybody I know. It's like, I don't why do I want to take advice from somebody who I don't, I don't look up to how they run their relationship or how they have their relationship and to give me advice on their relationship. It cracks me up when people feel that need to do that. So I think you've got to kind of have this, you know, and I'm expressing this on the show and I'm vocalizing this. I don't really say anything to these people. I allow them to say it and inside I'm going like, oh, this is obviously a reflection on themselves. Either

one, they feel like they made mistakes on the decisions they made with their marriage or children or whatever. And so they feel like telling me either one is misery loves company or two, they wish they would have done it differently, so they feel they want to live vicariously through me. So at the end of the day, them telling me about my life is truly a reflection of their own. And so only you know that. So it used to actually bought, you know, when I was younger, it would bother me. If I heard someone say they didn't want to have children. And the reason why it would bother me is because it made me think that they didn't like children and the reason why it would bother me is because it made me think that they didn't like kids and then I got to a point where I realized number one that

doesn't necessarily mean you don't like kids you could love kids and just not want to have them or two maybe you don't like kids that's fine too like you don't have to like you don't have yeah you're not mean to kill us you're not walking around kids kicking kids and head like you, if you don't like a meal, I don't forget to realize, is they were a kid once. Well, let's break this down a little bit. But that's my point. Let's break this down a little bit.

And let me share, and I know when we had the girls gone wild, they said, you know how do I wish you would share more of your childhood, your story. Let me tell you what led to my personality like this. I'm the oldest of five. I have vivid memories. Those that know that my real father killed himself when I was seven, my mom remarried

into an abusive relationship. At 13 years old, I have a very vivid memory of standing above both my parents and parenting them, teaching them how to communicate to each other. And then I have four siblings that are younger than me, that I've been the father figure for my entire life to them. And then I also have a stepfather that was kicked out of my house every six months, then brought back in.

So we love them. We hate them. We love them. We hate them. We love for 10 years of my young adult life before I'm going to. So you'll wonder why I'm in no hurry to get married. And you wonder why I don't want any kids I've been fucking parenting for 35 years already. You should be retired by now, right? And so I'm a bit Jersey man, so you know like yeah, do I do I you know what? I wish I had a little mini me running around like I absolutely does that not that sound and I would love to live Vicariously through him playing sports and being a mini me and educating him and teaching him and all those stuff sounds fucking awesome. But I mean, I actually could deal with do without it because I don't feel like I completely

missed out on what fucking parenting is like. Here's what people think. People think if you say I don't want to have kids, they think, oh, you're selfish and all you care about is your ego, where now that may be true in some cases, in some cases, it may not be, but it also may be fucking true when people choose to have kids. Do you know how many people have children because of their ego? Because they want a kid that they could fucking mold and force or save a relationship or to save a relationship.

Like, it could be good and bad to have them and it could be good and bad to have them and it could be good and bad to not have them. It depends on the person and it's not my fucking job to judge that. It's your choice and again, you're not hurting anybody. Why do people care? Like what anybody does? Like why should anybody get offended if the dude over there decides to pierce his nose 15 times or the girl over there decides to have a relationship with another girl over here. girl over there decides to have a relationship with another girl. Over here they decide they wanna have an open relationship.

Over here they wanna decide they don't wanna have kids. Oh this couple over here has 15 kids. And as long as everybody's cool, nobody hurts anybody. It's like the second you find a fence in it yourself even though they're not really doing anything to you, it has to do with yourself. Always, it's such a reflection of yourself.

It's so fucking obvious. And the more passionate you are about it, the worse that fucking is. Like if you really feel the need to tell somebody, they should be married or they should have kids or this or that, it's even more, it's worse. It's really bad. It's like, if you think it, it's one thing,

you probably, if you think it, that should already be your sign that you have some things to reflect on yourself. If you fucking vocalize it, you've probably got real issues in that department. So, I mean, so on a lot of times, they just removed themselves from any other, you know, non-like-minded people. Like they've created this sort of bias and this, this, this environment now or everything revolves around kids. And like, that's why, you know, even me is like, I'm hanging out and we're doing these play dates and all this kind

of stuff is great. But, you know, like, I'm hanging out and we're doing these play dates and all this kind of stuff is great But you know like I need interaction with my boys. I need interaction with like people that are single like I need that because like Then I'm gonna turn into one of these people that oh, you know like this is all we do now and like no like be diverse It's funny that you guys pick this question because my my boys and I literally were Be diverse. It's funny that you guys picked this question because my boys and I literally were talking about this topic today because one of my buddies just got pregnant.

So his, yeah, it's his first kids on the way. And so this is like my childhood best friend. So all of us waited till we were in our 30s before. This is the one that you're in his wedding just recently? Yeah. He's the first one. Yeah, he's the first one. And so we're all on a group thread

and we're all kind of talking. And it's funny because this group is the opposite, right? Because we all waited like a long time. So just like, yeah, I'm waiting to see how his life changes. I said, yeah, I said, traveling sex, drugs, and toys. Yeah, that's all going to change real quick. I was the guy in our group. You know, it's funny too, when you think about this

and people talk about it, like it's all great and it's all awesome. The reality is sometimes it is awesome. My experience is I love my kids more than anything. I'm always gonna be very involved in their life. But the reality, statistically speaking today, something like 30, I think 30 to 34% of children are raised by a single parent.

You know, and the vast majority of the people that left their kids to not be a part of life are men. And I guarantee there's a biological component there. Women definitely evolved to be more connected to have more empathy. So it's much more difficult. There's also societal pressures. A man can leave their kids and everybody judges them a little bit. A woman leaves his kids and it's like you're a horrible person,

but I'm just saying like, I think one of the worst things you could do is have children when you don't want to have kids. So I find it fucking ridiculous when you've got family and friends pressuring people to have kids who kind of don't want to have them, and a lot of people have had kids in situations like that. Well, I think that my siblings to think in this order that goes, you know, God family kids and that's everything in life. Like, you know, once you have been married and you've had children, you're accomplished. Like that nothing matters more than that. Money is the root of all evilness.

And children having children and family is the greatest gift you could ever receive and so I have a younger sister Who's now pregnant again and you know and again to each their own? I don't tell her what she can't can't have kid with that But you know personally where she's at like in her life They can't support kids. They've got they've now her man she's with has two, now they have two, they have four kids, they have four kids and they don't have one working car. Like in just, it's just not responsible. It's like the, the stress that you're going to put those kids on, the environment, they have to grow up in like, you're really not setting the family up for success.

And like, to me, you think you're doing the selfless thing, the selfless thing by being a parent or a mother or a father, but you're actually doing something very selfish. You're being very selfish because you feel the need that you want or you need this. When in reality, you're not even a position to take care of it because you're still not take caring. It's the same thing.

I look at somebody who's addicted to drugs or have these issues and then they go have a child too, is like, you're not even in a position right now to take care of yourself. What the fuck makes you think not even in a position right now to take care of yourself. What the fuck makes you think you're in a position to take care of another beat? It can definitely be that way. But it's, again, it's funny.

No, no, no, no, no, no, it's more common. It's more common. That's more common than the other way, bro. There's more, there's more of those stories. Maybe, I would, you know, I would debate which one's more common, but you're right. It can be a very, very selfish act, and it can be a very, very selfish actashacked and it can be a very, very selfless act.

It can be a wonderful, amazing thing, or it can be a horrible thing. This is true for not having kids. I'm sure there are people, guarantee you there are people, I've met a couple who decided not to have kids for whatever reason. They had a bad childhood, they had a bad relationship, they got divorced and said, fuck it, I never want to have kids again. Who then got to a certain age where it became unrealistic to have children. Who regretted it?

I'm sure those people exist as well. And like I said, I know a couple of them. It's not black or white, but again, like I don't think anybody should be telling anybody how to live if they're not hurting anybody or stealing anybody from anybody. If they're happy, and the advice is to the person who's getting told the advice, right?

So, you know, the way I handle it now is you just can't, you can't get emotional about it, you can't react to it. I just ignore it. That's a great point because the same thing that makes that person feel, you know, personally insulted by you not wanting to have kids can get activated in you when you personally insulted by you, not wanting to have kids, can get activated in you when you get insulted by their insult. Right. No, it absolutely. It becomes your ego. If I acted the way I'm acting right now in the show,

the way I'm expressing my passion to you guys, because this is not how I would react. Like you just, I don't, I don't even let them know. Like what I'm sharing with all the personal stuff, I just shared that doesn't get shared. I don't say all those things, you know, but this is what's going on in my head.

I'm thinking, fuck, you're an idiot for telling me this, but you just can't say that because then again, then it looks like you're the one with the major issue. And it's like, it's not an issue. It's just a choice that I have and I just have a different view on it. And I like to share with people, we obviously probably had different upbrings and different views on family and

children and this and that and I respect yours. Well, if it's any consolation, I think you're making an excellent father, but until then, you'll be a great uncle to your nieces and nephews and to your brothers. We got kids that we can bring close. My kids and Justin's kids.

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