Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 607: Identifying a Damaged Metobolism, DHT Blockers, Becoming Vegetarian to Save the Planet & MORE

Episode Date: September 30, 2017

Organifi Quah! In this episode of Quah, sponsored by Organifi (organifi.com, code "mindpump" for 20% off), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about how one knows if they have a damaged metabolism, their opinions on DHT Blockers like Finasteride, advice for someone who found out their significant other has taken steroids and will probably take them again and as health and fitness promoters would they consider a vegetarian lifestyle in the future? Adam cannabis tincture experience (4:27) Thrive Market discount explanation / Guys talk about their recent orders (19:07) Sal’s pizza night Justin’s bacon bars Sal’s nighttime drink of choice (24:40) Quah question #1 – How does one know if they have a damaged metabolism? (28:56) Quah question #2 – Your opinion on DHT blockers like Finasteride? (40:47) Quah question #3 – Thoughts on steroids? They know their partner has taken them and probably will again. (51:12) ·Quah question #4 – What are your thoughts on cattle hurting the environment? As a fitness promoter, would you consider a vegetarian diet in the future? (1:06:24)      Thrive Market – Farmer’s Market (1:14:35) Related Links/Products Mentioned Thrive Market (website)  Four Sigmatic (website) Coupon Code "mindpup" What a Starvation Study From the 1940s Reveals About the Awfulness of Dieting – NYMag (article) After ‘The Biggest Loser,’ Their Bodies Fought to Regain Weight (article)  Mind Pump’s 30 Days of Coaching (Sign up for FREE!) Finasteride-Its Impact on Sexual Function and Prostate Cancer (study) Saw Palmetto Shampoo For Hair Loss - Helps Promote Hair Regrowth Three weeks of creatine monohydrate supplementation affects dihydrotestosterone to testosterone ratio in college-aged rugby players. (study) An Inconvenient Truth (movie) Half of all US food produce is thrown away, new research suggests (article)  Organifi Discount Code "mindpump" People Mentioned: none mentioned Would you like to be coached by Sal, Adam & Justin? You can get 30 days of virtual coaching from them for FREE at www.mindpumpmedia.com. Get our newest program, MAPS Prime Pro, which shows you how to self assess and correct muscle recruitment patterns that cause pain and impede performance and gains. Get it at www.mindpumpmedia.com! Get MAPS Prime, MAPS Anywhere, MAPS Anabolic, MAPS Performance, MAPS Aesthetic, the Butt Builder Blueprint, the Sexy Athlete Mod AND KB4A (The MAPS Super Bundle) packaged together at a substantial DISCOUNT at www.mindpumpmedia.com. Make EVERY workout better with MAPS Prime, the only pre-workout you need… it is now available at mindpumpmedia.com Have Sal, Adam & Justin personally train you via video instruction on our YouTube channel, Mind Pump TV. Be sure to Subscribe for updates. Get your Kimera Koffee at www.kimerakoffee.com, code "mindpump" for 10% off! Get Organifi, certified organic greens, protein, probiotics, etc at www.organifi.com Use the code “mindpump” for 20% off. Go to foursigmatic.com/mindpump and use the discount code “mindpump” for 15% off of your first order of health & energy boosting mushroom products. Add to the incredible brain enhancing effect of Kimera Koffee with www.brain.fm/mindpump 10 Free sessions! Music for the brain for incredible focus, sleep and naps! Also includes 20% if you purchase! Please subscribe, rate and review this show! Each week our favorite reviewers are announced on the show and sent Mind Pump T-shirts! Have questions for Mind Pump? Each Monday on Instagram (@mindpumpmedia) look for the QUAH post and input your question there. (Sal, Adam & Justin will answer as many questions as they can)

If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, with your hosts. Saldas Defano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. In this episode, this is it? Yes. Uh, mind pump, uh, we had some fun conversation for about 25 minutes. We talk about Adam's tincture trouble. Wow. It was, it's pretty fucking hilarious. Get into the moon and back. Yeah. It was the cannabis fiasco. Please don't tell me.

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s-i-g-m-a-t-i-c.com-forstash-mimepump enter the code MIMEPump at checkout, you'll get a discount on their products. Then we get into the questions. First question was, how do you know if you have a damaged metabolism, or some people will call it adrenal fatigue or HPA access dysfunction, or just

a really slow metabolism. How do you know? Then we give our opinions on DHT blockers like Finastery. These are drugs that stop or help you prevent you from going bald. I guess people are been DMing Adam quite a bit about this. Our teasing has turned into DMs. We talk about it. Then we have someone who asks us the question if we haven't advice for them because they found out their significant Other has taken steroids in the past and is probably going to continue to take them

Of course mind pump is a fitness podcast, but we're also experts in relationship. Why are they hiding things from you? Finally, we get a kind of Political maybe we touch the third rail a little bit. Somebody asks us what our stance was on cattle being the biggest threat to the climate. And if we would consider going vegetarian for our future, I can't imagine a lot of people are gonna be happy with this.

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or you're going to get maps performance for free. This includes our super bundle, which is one year of exercise programming. All planned out for you. If you enroll in that, we're going to give you Maps Prime Pro for free in that particular one right there. You can find out about all of this. All you got to do is go to mindpumpmedia.com. Hello. Hello. Hello. Is there anybody in there? Oh my God, dude. Isn't it creepy if you can't hear me? Hello, was that her song?

She does, too. Hello. Yeah, I saw her. You haven't sang a long time ago. I don't know what I saw. Yeah. What does Adele sound like? I don't know here this.

Yeah, I don't know what's on it. What's on it? She is not going to be the first person that I try. To do. Come on, man. That'll be epic. No. You haven't sang a song for us in a while. That's just because I try. It's good to. Come on, man. That was the epic news. You haven't sang a song for us in a while.

That's just because I don't, I can't. Well, you knew that before you didn't stop here. You know, you try hard. It's our fault, Justin. I know. Because I think up until, you know, Mind Pump, Adam thought he wasn't as bad as he is. We should have encouraged him more.

And we should have lied the whole time because we could have got so much singing at it. It would have never worked, brother. There's no, there's no like fooling me to thinking I sing good. When, maybe I do sound good. Yeah. The guys keep telling me I sound good. When you listen to the podcast where you did sing,

do you think to yourself like, oh shit, or do you think like, I sound as bad as I thought. No, I'm every bit as bad as I thought. I was, never again, I remember, I went to church my whole life as a kid growing up. And so I heard myself singing in church, dude. It was bad. It was pretty bad.

Yeah, so I hummed for half of my life. Did you really? Mom, I ain't singing anymore, it's bad. No, it's bad. Yeah, this is off the beat. He's singing the best. Exactly, yeah, it's all bad, it's all bad. Dude, so, you know so we're doing our work,

and we typically message each other after work, because we're still working on things and stuff. And Adam, all of a sudden, like 5 p.m. gone. And we had some important shit to talk about. Adam's fucking gone. He was there for a minute, and then it just, like a half way through the text. Yeah, he's gone, right? I could you come in this morning you come in today and

I want you to share the story of why you you Before yeah before we completely let me let me back up a little bit So one of the things that mine Pump is exploring right now is the possibilities of us taking on a cannabis sponsor, where we've talked about marijuana plenty of times on the show. We're all pretty much pro cannabis. And so since I've kind of announced that and said that, I've had a plethora of cannabis people that are sending us stuff. Samples. Yeah, samples. And these are legal, these are legal state legal companies. a plethora of cannabis people that are sending us stuff. Samples.

Yeah, samples. And these are legal, these are legal state legal companies. It's awesome. You know, I appreciate that. So much love to everybody that's been sending the love. And I got one of these and I don't, I don't, I don't think I'm going to chat out the name because I don't know. No, no, no, it's quite a good idea.

You just say what kind of product it was. Yeah, so it was a tincture, right? And came in a little spray bottle. Little tiny little spray bottle. And give everybody a little background that, so sometimes what it will do is all have a little chocolate ball that's five milligrams of cannabis. It's a nice set.

At most. Yeah, exactly. It's a, takes the edge, it's like having a glass of wine. That's what it feels like to me. It's not I don't feel high. It doesn't get me a I can function completely fine. No, that's a normal. That's a normal dose for right? I mean, you know for people two to five milligrams And then if I'm trying to have some fun and it's I'm at home and I don't have to be driving any vehicles And I'm at just watching shows or what like that. I may push it up to 10 milligrams 10 milligrams I definitely feel high from science fiction movie to watch.

So, never do I want to feel like that when we're at work, right? So, you're looking for a low mild. Right, so right before we get on the air yesterday, I'm like looking for something and I realized that I couldn't find the chocolate balls that we have laying around here, the cannabis chocolate balls that we always have. And so I grab this guy's tinctures and I just, I look at it and it says, the dosage is like 0.14 and I'm like, well, that's not very much. And I'm thinking 0.14, it's not quite one.

I probably want five or so moments. I spray it in my mouth like four or five times. No, no, no. We need to be like for people who don't know, tinctures are never very strong. Yeah, they're not. Like, if you get a tincture, typically, you could fill up a dropper full,

and it's gonna be like two milligrams of T.H.C. out most. I mean, they're typically weak. Right, people have to remember, too, that I- And you have experience, too. Yeah, I have a lot of experience around this stuff for a long time. So I've taken lots of tinctures before and just like Sal said, typically, you know, you don't really feel that much of them and it takes quite a few because it's barely, it's

this spray, like it's a little mouse mouse. It's not even a dropperful. Yeah, yeah, it's not exactly- Thank God. It's not even a dropperful. So I spray four or five on there. We record the podcast. I'm fine.

And then maybe like an hour or so, I had to leave early because I had to go drop off the denollity to go get new tires. And the funny part was I get there. And one of my buddy owns the place, and I'm talking to him, Katrina's meeting me there to pick me up. And I get, she's calling me on my phone,

and she's must be out in the parking lot. And she's like, what's taking you so long? I'm like, oh, sorry, sorry, I just caught talking to my buddy. And I get number one, right? I get in the car. Yeah, right. Rambling, right? Totally.

So I get in the car with her and she's like, what took you so long? I'm like, oh, you know, I've just catching up. You know, we haven't talked in a long time. This and that. I'm like, but man, he seems like he's on one. And she's like, what do you mean? I'm like, I don't know. He just seemed off to me and just seemed kind of weird and antsy. He seemed like he was on something. I's like, what do you mean? I'm like, I don't know. He just seemed off to me and just seemed kind of weird and

antsy. He seemed like he was on something. I wonder what's going on with my boy. I'll have to reach out to him later on see how he's doing. And she's like, well, did you did you smoke or anything? And I'm like, no, no, no, I had like this tincture edible thing, but I'm fine. I'm like, she's like, well, you look a little high. And I go, really? Like you think she's like, yeah yeah maybe it was you I'm like yeah her head morphed into a lizard so we just kind of I just kind of laugh it off right so and then we drive home this is now like two hours three hours in and typically like you know that's about when these things should be setting in and

I'm sitting on the couch she's cooking dinner and I don't feel good she's like what's wrong and I'm like I don't know I feel kind of nauseous and I don't feel good. She's like, what's wrong? And I'm like, I don't know. I feel kind of nauseous and I feel really high right now. And she comes over, look at me and stuff like that. She goes, you're getting sick again. I'm like, no, no, I don't feel stuck. Kind of sick. I feel like drunk, like weird. And so I'm kind of sitting there and she gets done with dinner, we're sitting down eating. Then I'm standing up kind of pacing in the living room and she's like, what's wrong with you? And I'm like, can we go for a walk? And she's like, okay, like right now,

and she was like working, and I was like, yeah, yeah, she puts the computer down, and we go take a walk, right? And we're walking and walking. And walking. Yeah, well, no, that's exactly how I felt. And which, by the way, it's such a natural thing, like you know, you get trying to wear something

out in your system, right? Like you tell, my body would just like, you need to walk. You need to move because. And the wink. Sitting, sitting still was making me feel really bad. And so we go walk and she's like, I'm gonna go next door real quick.

I'll be right back and I was like, okay, I'll sit down after I walk and I felt a little bit better after I walked, but as soon as I sat down again, I got like, fucking the room starts spinning. And so I go upstairs and I was like, okay, I'll sit down after I walk and I felt a little bit better after I walked, but as soon as I sat down again, I got like fucking the room start spinning. And so I go upstairs and I text her, I'm like, when you come home, I'm in bed and it was like five o'clock. And you guys were texting back and forth

our group thread and I got to the point where I couldn't read anymore. I'd be like, looking at the phone and like, I was staring and I'm like, dude, this is awful. So, were you like seeing shit? I wasn't seeing things, I mean, it was spinning and I'm like, dude, this is awful. So, were you like seeing shit? I wasn't seeing things. I felt really drunk is what I felt like.

So, long story short, I was completely hammered and smashed. I went to bed at five o'clock. Katrina was constantly nursing me all night long. She totally took advantage of me that night too. I told her that afterwards. And when I'm like, man, I was out of it and you totally took advantage of me last night. She's like her that afterwards. And I was like, man, I was out of it. And you totally took advantage of me last night. She's like, well, you were into it.

You're gonna work it out. I'm like, so she took photos. Right, right, so. Morning time come in the morning. And I'm like, man, I need to go, what did I take? So I go in and I tell the boys this morning. So hold on, so you went to sleep at five. Yeah.

And you slept till the next day. Yeah. Holy shit. Hard. And you're somebody the next day. Yeah. Holy shit. Hard. And you're somebody that doesn't, you have trouble sleeping all the time. Yeah, I get up multiple times. So you're a professional in this arena.

I did, you think that, right? So I got it, wasn't Justin. I can't, right? Oh my god. Like, I would have been in another dimension. Yeah. So scared. You would have come up with one of your ideas.

Well, at one point, plenty of analogies to come after that. I got up to go to the restroom one time in the middle and I did wake up like at one or two and I mean, I was like stumbling all over the floor and woke Katrina up, are you okay? And I'm like, yeah, no, I'm just having a hard time walking. Like I had a hard time keeping my balance, going to the restroom.

Sure, I pissed all over my floor in the middle of the night. So I get up and I feel okay. Like I feel like I definitely had a long night of drinking or parting. And then that's when I came here to the studio. And I thought, yeah, so he comes in and we're talking. And he's like, dude, he goes, I was fucked up last night. I'm like, what are you talking about? He's like, I don't know how much THC was in that spray.

It was, it must have been a lot. So I grabbed the bottle and I read, and it's confusing as fuck. This is the problem, is that it's not clear. It doesn't tell you how much is in it per spray. It literally says how much total THC there is in there per 100 milliliters and that tells you how many milliliters is in a spray. And so you have to do the math.

Yeah, it's like, and I'm asking, I'm a pretty good man. Well, you're asking stoners, like this is the funny part, like those are the last motherfuckers you're right with numbers. Yeah, and plus, you know, it's, it's a tincture, like those are never strong. So I mean, Adam are trying to figure out the math and remember Five milligrams is considered a dose 10 milligrams. I'm high. It's a strong dose. Yeah, 20 milligrams is uncomfortable Paranoid dose. That's like if I did 20 milligrams if you're a head I would be very unhappy. Well, most you're like heavy heavy smokers or someone who would consider themselves like fucking a stoner would take that

Yeah, maybe 2025 maybe right? Adam did 70 milligrams Without realizing it and and I think you were the darkness I think you were I think you were still high the next day because when you came in you were You were normal. I wasn't like you were whatever, but you had that, you know, that, that, that, yeah, I was giggly-side of you. Well, I was giggly, and then the whole day, I was just kinda in a haze a little bit,

so it was, I definitely have no desire to smoke weed right now for a while. You know, it's like getting really hungover from drinking, you're like, I don't wanna drink for a while now. Thank God, that THC is not, you know, that you have to take like thousands and thousands of milligrams in order to get.

Right, well, it hurts. Right, right, right. Thank God I just, and I was lucky that right afterwards, I went straight over to drop the tires off and Katrina met me there to pick me up because had I stayed here and been a full day at work and then try to drive home, that would have been scary. That would have, imagine if it was like a situation

where you did a little bit and you're like, oh, later I got to have that meeting, but it'll wear off by then. So, and then you're in a meeting and it hits you. It hits you. When I first, I don't know if I ever shared this story on hand pump, but when we first, so when I was, this was back when I was still running Santa Teresa

and Coddle Gym for 24-hour fitness. I was managing there and I was transitioning out. So I was managing there and I was transitioning out. So I was working there. I was, I had my boot camp business that was running and then I was also starting the cannabis clubs. So I was working the cannabis clubs, like I'd be going back and forth between all these things. And I remember one day we had this vendor come in.

It was right when we first started and he's like, he brought me these drinks and they were teas and he was like, these are just real mellow and they're sativa. And so you should feel up. It's not. And I was just learning about cannabis at this point. And this was my first bad experience of like trying stuff without, you know, like carefully easing my way in. And I drank this tea because he kept selling me on how it's for the daytime and that you'll feel good because it's a sativa. And then I had to go run a meeting next door at the gym,

at 24 hour fitness, like two hours later, and I was fucked. I was so paranoid and freaked out. I have no idea what came out of my mouth up there and like, thank God it was doing something that I've done for so long and I feel comfortable talking about fitness. But I don't even know how it went down

and how it's the worst feeling. It was so, so scary. That happened to me once when I had my studio. I was training clients and one of my friends brought, you know, some edibles in. And I have a very low tolerance. I just do. I always have my body reacts very strongly. And, you know, I tend to titrate it. And this is right around the time when I started using it for my gut issues. So I was super low tolerance. So this friend of mine brings us edible and she's

like, okay, this is a low dose. And so she gives me this piece. And so to be safe, I ate like two thirds of the low dose. So I thought for sure I'll be okay. And I just wanna see how I feel. And she's like, you probably won't feel anything. And she's like, are sureing me, like you're probably not gonna feel anything. So I'm like, okay, cool. So I eat it and I'm training clients.

And I make the cardinal mistake that everybody makes once, which is I wait and I don the cardinal mistake that everybody makes once, which is I wait and I don't feel it. I should take another one, so I take more. So I wait, I don't feel anything. It's like an hour later. It's like an hour later, so I'm like,

I'll take twice the dose, I don't feel anything. So here we go. No joke. Five minutes after I took it the second dose, I start to feel the first dose. And I realized the mistake I made. I'm like, no, this is too fast to feel that second dose. I'm like, oh shit, that's the first dose.

And I had a full fucking day, dude. I had like eight clients left. I used to train 10 clients in a day sometimes. I had eight clients left. And they were all 10 clients in a day sometimes. I had eight clients left. So, and they were all- You powered out. And you go home. Dude, and these are clients who are,

and I'm cool with these people, I know them very well, so I could probably tell them, hey, I had an edible earlier, but I'm very professional. A lot of these clients are doctors and surgeons and whatever, and it's unprofessional. I don't want to be like, hey, you know, I decided to get high before our session

because you know, they're paying me good money and I'm gonna do a good job. So I just start getting high and it doesn't slow down. Like for anyone who's ever experienced this before, you know what I'm talking about. It starts to ramp up and ramp up. And then right when you're like, okay, it's like, yeah, okay, now we're settled.

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you're already paranoid, so if somebody says something, but you wanna be like normal. Yes. If somebody says something in a joking way You're like you don't get it as joking. You think like you take it super person Yeah, so what am I one of my clients was laughing so hard because I was joking She's laughing at you and she goes yeah, she goes she goes what did you take earlier? You're so funny, and I'm like

She knows What a terrible do that reminds me, remember the, the, it was like the police officer and his wife or somebody like, Oh yeah. He like, like took contraband and brought back to the house and like some of the, like, pot-rounding and stuff. Yeah. And then called, like they're dying called 911.

Oh, I got, sometimes moving. Talk about slow. Right now. That's so funny. I bet you've never heard the end of that. Yeah. So I have a total off topic here. Yeah. It's I just remember that I've had quite a few

people asked this about thrive market. Doug, do you know that so or maybe just because I know you've already ordered from them? It is. People are asking if they if they are had already ordered from thrive market. Now if they order again, can they use the mine pump pump code and then how does that work? Because the mind pump code really just gives them the the $60 kickback plus the first month free plus they get

$60 towards their shopping yeah, I think the first time you get the free one month membership Uh-huh you get $60 and I believe that spread over your first three orders. Oh Spread out over three orders. That's so. So it's $20 per order that you get discounted if I recall correctly. No, I think that's it. I think that's it because the prices are so low.

I don't think there's like this discount on top of it. Yeah, I don't think it's a reoccurring thing. I think if the discount off the actual market itself you're getting a great discount by the way. Yeah, because it's only in the product. It's only $60 a year, right? Yeah. Okay, so it's $60 a year, and then you get $60 towards shopping.

So when you use the Mind Pump code, you're going to get $60 towards your, and you have your first month free, plus you get $60 towards your spend. But it's over three, you're telling me it's over three. Three orders. Three orders. So you get 2020, 2020. But once you've used that, you've used that. Yes, that's right. I mean, it's the hell of a deal.

Yeah, it's a great deal. Yeah, so actually I ordered a bunch of products from them and then I had you. So I ordered coconut oil and avocado oil and some skin care products. But then I also ordered, so my poor kids, right? I'm always trying to feed them super ultra healthy. And I ordered these vegetable-based pizza crusts.

I don't want to shout out the name of the company because my kids didn't like it. I loved it. I thought it was fucking amazing. Love the taste of it. So I'm like, hey kids, we're going to have pizza tonight. They're like, yay! Now, I forget that I'm speaking to

You know pizza snobs, which is their Italian kids, the Italians are pizza snobs and they're used to like made from scratch They're they're used to like pizza crust like made from like you know like pizza crust, right? So I make these like vegetable ones which like cauliflower and all that stuff And I make the pizza and my right away my daughter She lifts the corner of it up and she looks at the crust and goes what's wrong with it oh my god it's really good she goes are you trying to make it see healthy again I said no no I said yeah she does I said yeah it's healthy but it's really good you got to try it she's like but it's not pizza I said it's like pizza I said

try it just take a bite so this little shit she takes a fucking speck of a piece Like a little speck and eat this. I don't like it. I'm like you have to eat a whole piece before yeah You have to eat a whole piece before you decide if you like it or not. She's like no already no I don't like it. Yeah, and so I'm like my youngest does that's yeah, so I'm like god That would frustrate the shit bro. I'm like I don't know'd be just like, well, this is what we're eating tonight. Yeah. That's it. Well, that's kind of how it goes at times.

You don't have to eat it if you don't want to. Yeah, well, I'm hungry. You know what I'm doing. I'm a bit hungry. Well, so let me know if you want me to save you a piece. When you're dealing with my kids, what you're dealing with are, remember, they've got my jeans in them. So I can play that game with them

and they're gonna fucking throw it right back. So I'll say to her, like, well, that's all you're gonna have. And she's like, well, I'm not gonna eat. And I'm like, well, that's fine. You'll eat that for breakfast tomorrow too. And she goes, well, then I won't eat breakfast. And I'm like, you're not gonna eat. And I'm like, you're not gonna eat until you have a whole slice of pizza.

You're not gonna eat any food. And she's like, well, I go to mom's house in two days, so I'll just eat over there. Oh, man. I just go to the two day food. And it just, yeah, it goes this back and forth and I'm just like this is going to be like what do I do now? That's funny. I've noticed because like I got the uncured bacon bars from Epic.

Oh yeah. I love those. Yeah. So they've been bacon bars for those. Oh, it's fucking, they're like protein bars. Yeah, it's like meat instead of all the you know, like way protein. You know, the shit in it. It's a meat bar, bro. Yeah, it's a meat bar. It's it's brilliant. It's like you took it just to sell those. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. I got them off there. Fucking love meat bars. So the only problem is the like I went to go grab one because I've been you know, randomly, you know, eating them throughout the day or whatever, like I felt like I was hungry and dude, like half of them are gone. Like my boys have been eating them and like, oh, like they're just taking all of my bacon bars and getting pissed. They make bacon bars. Oh, it's the best, dude. Yeah. Oh, wow. That's one of the finds on there. I was like pumped on. I was like, oh, he's good. Yeah. So, oh, sorry, Doug. Yeah, you know, I found out exactly how this goes down. Oh, thank God.

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I don't think that's how it works. Yeah, I don't know how that works. I think it's a one time deal. Yeah, that is. Yeah, I think so. If you're already going. I mean, everybody's trying to game the system all the time. So since we're on this topic, I did order because I drink, I have a sleep routine that I do every night where I'll make myself a chamomile tea sometimes or a virularian root

if I really want to sleep hard. So I did... I thought you were using the mushroom one from Foreseq Matter. I am. So what I did was I mixed, I drank, uh, Valyrian root tea, which, you don't, you know, you shouldn't drink Valyrian root every night because it is a pretty remarkable sedative. Like if you drink Valyrian root and you try and stay awake, you're gonna feel a little loopy.y Oh really? Yeah, it's pretty good. I said like fun. So I had of course you said that so I had I drank the Valerian root tea and I drank it with the Raishi and

I fucking slept hard Hard you ever go to sleep where you you go to sleep in one position like you lay down and stay right there and I woke up in that exact Same that's a good sleep. Yeah, that's like really, really hard. Technically, it's probably not, but it fucking feels, isn't it when you're that tired and you sleep like that? Oh, hard.

But I like Rishi, the Rishi mushrooms from Forcigmatic cause I use them for that. Or if I have a lot of caffeine, I'll drink it with the caffeine and it takes off the edge. So I get this nice smooth kind of energy Dude, it's a nice a valerian. I feel like that's like a race of people in Valerians the valerians yeah, maybe like in lower the race. Did you have a tincture? Yeah, just now? No, I didn't Was an original thought dude is crazy when you think about one spray is too high of a dose

One spray what do we figure was 17 milligrams? You're just like I scored it was four or five. I don't remember. I'm so happy. Yeah, I know I closed my mouth to me I'm like no, I'm so happy. I didn't have any with you because you came over to me. Oh, I Have one. I was you know, it's crazy. I'm like now I'm had either one of you open your mouth. I would have scored it at least two in there. Oh my guess So we would all would have been on a fucking ride Who would have been a ride dude everybody would have been oh god?

I would have hated it cuz I would have thought I was dying imagine Doug how pissed Doug would be we would have just all over Yeah, no, we're just all I would just like been in the corner Doug wouldn't be mad he'd be he's used to it. Yeah, oh here go good Here. No, if I I'm glad I didn't do it because I tend to get paranoid More than you because you're like, oh fuck. I'm just gonna go to bed. I'd be like I'm dying. Yeah, call an ambulance I was you know it could it took Katrina quite she must have asked me like five times because she thought I was just fucking around And then she's just like you're just come on. You're just really high. You're fine I'm like no, I'm like really bad. Like, we are sitting down, remember, I'm like in the stratosphere. She's been working all these, she's got Cassie working on these reports for me and stuff,

right? So just analytics for the business and ship. And that's one of my things that I like to do with her. Like, this is, we sit down at nighttime and we kind of rely. So romantic. Right. Let's go over straight. A little peering into Adam's life a little bit.

We sit down and go over graphs and end up nice, key on T. So we'll sit down and you know, and she knows that I like to do that, right? It's my thing that I like to do. It's for her not so much, right? But she's showing me these reports that I've been asking for for some time and I'm excited to look at them and she's looking at me and she goes, and I must have been staring at the screen for a long time with not saying. She's like, oh my God, she goes,

you are really high. And I'm like, what, I'm just looking at, you know, you're trying to act cool, right? You're trying to act like you're fine, right? No way. No, no, I'm just looking at, she goes, oh yeah, she goes, what are you looking at? She has the reports I asked for.

She's like, well, do you know what you're looking at? And I'm like, I know what I'm looking at. And then GPS reports, she starts quizzing me like ask you me questions. And I'm like, why are you fucking with me? You know, it's a cover letter. You just turn it the cover letter. Then she finally looks at you, she goes, do you want to look at this later? I'm like, yeah, we should probably look at them later. That was right before we got it, went for our walk. So it was, that was pretty bad. Bring the stoner bird, please. Yeah, this quad brought to you by Organify.

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How does one know if they have a damaged metabolism? That's a good question. It is a good question because I think we get a lot of questions on this line. Well we get metablog damage has become another one of those words. Right. It's become another buzz term. Oh, by the way, I'm pretty sure they're going to start selling supplements to fix this pretty soon.

Oh, yeah. I guarantee it. Oh yeah, damage metabolism. Take this pill. Absolutely. I think that's a great call. That's a great, yeah, great prediction say a damage metabolism take this pill absolutely. I think that's a great call That's a great yeah great prediction on that one too is for sure We will see people market to this and again. This is what sucks. Yes, it's real. Yes, we've dealt with it Is it as common as it's starting to become? No, I don't believe it's that common

I believe that most people have just a poor relationship with food, don't understand how much they're actually moving throughout the day. Most people just eat poorly and are lazy. Yeah. I hate to say it. No, it is. It's true. Everybody reminds me of like 20 years ago,

when I was a train, when I was a first became a personal trainer, the excuse was, I think I have low thyroid. You know what I mean? I think my thyroid's low. I'd be like, well, we'll get a blood test that come back. No, it's not. Right. Well, you're just genetics then. You just don't, yeah, exactly's low. I'd be like, well, we'll get a blood test that come back. No, it's not. Right.

You're just genetics then. You just don't, yeah, exactly. So when I would see it, right, in big bones, is when I would have, and this is again, why the tracking and all that shit, why I'm so, so I could eliminate this as a possibility. Because when it is, when it is an issue, it's obvious to me.

Well, yes, and not only that, and we have to work for it. Not only that, but there's a specific protocol. Well, yes, and not only that. And not only that, but there's a specific protocol. Well, yeah, right. So you have, and when I see it's most common, it looks like this, I get somebody who has some sort of a very active day where they are just, they move a lot, like 20,000 steps.

Like that's a lot of moving. You're an active, an active job, or you're moving a lot, right? And then you're only eating, you know, 1200 calories or so a day and you're 50 pounds overweight. Like when you're overweight, you're moving that much and you're eating that little consistently and I've had you track and we've been looking at this

and you're not, the scale is not moving. Yeah, this person probably has some metabolic damage. I think we should also, let's be very clear, because the term damaged metabolism or metabolic damage. General fatigue is the... Right, or general fatigue or HPA axis, this function, whatever. It's technically your metabolism is not damaged,

it's doing exactly what it's supposed to. Ooh, great point. So it's not like you're broken, it's just your body has now adapted to a lot of stress, whether it be exercise or lack of sleep or too many stimulants or poor stress management, you know, life, whatever. And it's adapted to just the high level of activity, and it's also adapted to low calorie intake. So in reality, your metabolism not damaged,

it's doing what it's supposed to, which is adapted to the stimulus that you throw at it. So in this particular case, your metabolism is efficient. It's burning less calories. Your receptors for hormones like cortisol may be down-regulated. Your hormones have been altered and changed. Basically, to keep you functioning in a live, remember, your body's number one goal is to keep you alive.

It doesn't, the secondary goal would be to keep you long-term healthy and keep you feeling good and all that stuff. But number one, you gotta be alive in extreme cases where they've had prisoners of war where they'll take these people who've been captured and held prisoner for years and fed very, very little and forced to work ridiculous hours and whatever under high stresses, they'll find people that these people are surviving.

And of course, they look horrible and they feel horrible, but they're surviving on incredibly low calories. Their bodies have adapted to this extreme stress. So too much less extent, you're in a situation where maybe you approached your weight loss with the following, you know, methods, you know, I need to lose, you know, 70 pounds. So I'm going to do tons of cardio. That's typically what happens. Tons and tons of cardio. I'm going to cut my calories. I'm going to count everything. And then you lose like 50 pounds or whatever. And now you're stuck with the last 10 or 15 or 20.

And- Well, don't you feel like this is where most people, like, you simplify it a lot, but just like realizing how low of calories, like you've reduced yourself down to, and I'm a bit lazy. So I feel like it's the biggest loser. They're all in this category.

Yeah, I feel like for the most part, a majority of our society under consume like nutrients that their body needs, right? We over consume calories, we fucking overload on sugar and stuff that we don't need, but we really under consume on the nutrient dense foods and the things that our body needs. So we already, for the most part, the average American already is setting themself up for not less optimal running systems, right? Because you're not fueling it properly and you're oversaturating and you're overfilling it with garbage. And then you decide you're going to get in shape. And so what you do is you

grossly reduce all of that stuff that you were consuming before that you knew wasn't good for you, and you cut it in half or you're eliminated completely, so your calories now are 1,000 to 1,500 calories a day, and then you introduce all of this cardio and stuff inside of your day. So you have this drastic swing of, I already wasn't feeling my body

what it needs to work optimally. And I've already got it adapted to that. Now I'm going to reduce that even more and I'm going to put more stress on it by pushing it on cardio. And it's normally a very short-lived results. They get results for a week or two. They lose a couple pounds towards their 50 pound plus goal. And then

they do that for a while, get frustrated and say, fuck this. I was happier eating Taco Bell and, you know, not exercising in a couple pounds heavier. Who's ever said I've been happier eating Taco Bell? Lots of people. Wow. Lots of people. What? It hurts hurts my asshole to think about that. It's a tough situation to be in. Here you are, you lost 50 pounds or whatever, you're consuming 1200 calories a day, you're doing 30 minutes to an hour of cardio every single day. You've already got a busy life, you've already got a job, maybe you have kids.

What do you do now? In order to keep that weight off, you gotta keep doing exactly what you've been doing, which means for the rest of your life, you gotta do that. And you go on a vacation, which is I've seen this many, many times, people will go on vacation for a week, enjoy themselves a little bit, gain 10 pounds.

And they're like, what the fuck? No matter, the slightest thing that I do. It tips the scale massively. I gain weight so fast yeah if you if you're in this category you'll have weight fluctuations that seem pretty dramatic uh you you know you're you you're here because you've got your your self here through doing the things that we just talked about yeah um and your body just your metabolism just is kind of slow yeah the remedy for this the the ultimate remedy for this is a lot of things you have to do,

but the one main remedy is to build muscle and get stronger. That's really the only signal that tells your body to, that it's okay to be less efficient with calories, because you're sending a signal through lifting weights that you need this muscle more than anything. So now your body is going to speed up its metabolism. That we are about to release a guide that, uh, Sal revised the nutrition guide that I think is incredible for someone like this. Like talk about a, and it's in my opinion, the blueprints on how to help and fix somebody with a damaged metabolism. Everything from first working on your relationship with your own body and learning to separate body and self-image and then your relationship with food and then how to implement exercise.

I mean, it literally walks you through step-by-step what that looks like and then it gives you all types of different options of different diets that we talk about on the show. And I think that the mistake that most people make in this in this situation is they they fall in that yo-yoing of totally on, totally off. And if you think you have a damage metabolism, which like we said earlier, very few people actually truly have that.

Normally you're caught in this yo-yoing of off and on the wagon because you just swing from one extreme to the other. This is more common amongst people who compete a lot. That's where I see it the most. Right, right. When people come to me and they're like, oh my god, I have so much trouble getting leaner and then I ask them their history and they're like, oh, I competed in three shows or two shows recently, then I say, okay, let's look and see if we're dealing with a quote unquote,

damaged metabolism. If I have an average person, and what I made my average is someone who didn't compete, and they come to me and they say, sell, look, I work out and I eat right and whatever, and I just can't lose weight, and I ask them their history, and their history includes marathons,

or I don't get good sleep, I work really, lots of hours, I got three kids, I do tons of exercise, I'm drinking six cups of coffee a day, then I'll also think there may be some damage metabolism. If they come to me and say, I can't lose weight, whatever, and I go, well, what's your history? I'm inactive, and I just eat a bad diet, probably not a damaged metabolism.

Lithuates get stronger, eat adequate fat. You don't want to go keto. You still want to have some carbs, but you're not going to have a carb heavy diet. Reduce your cardio slowly. Don't drop it cold turkey because you'll rebound very quickly. Get better sleep and learn how to manage

your stress and give it some time. Unfortunately, getting out of this situation is going to take some months. Not weeks. It's going to take some months before your body's hormones and everything starts to balance out. And before you start to notice some of the positive effects of the work that you're doing. So I also highly recommend to anybody who may think they're suffering with this or wants more information in this direction is to go to the coaching that we have online, which is totally free. You go to mindputtmedia.com and you can sign up for free 30 days of coaching and we literally

have broken up every single day with a topic. And it's the same way that one of us would talk to somebody who's hired us that's wanting to learn about themselves, their body, different macro, micronutrients, exercise, everything we every day, we address something different. We make it very user-friendly with links to direct you straight to videos and podcast episodes

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Ever since you guys started making fun of me about going bald. You know how many fucking DMs I get because of you guys? Oh, I get a DM. I get a DM almost every day from somebody who wants to help me out. Oh, man. Help me. Yeah, I want to help. Our pump ads are so helpful.

They're hilarious. They're all hilarious too. They said them, I'm like, hey, they're all very sensitive. Amen. We've also built me up to be such an asshole. So they like tiptoe and like presenting me. They're fucking their hair product, right? There's like, bro, you gotta try.

I'm not saying you gotta issue. Yeah, yeah, yeah, right, right. I'm not trying to be offensive, and I think you look great, you look great. You look great, you look great. I have your, you talk about. So, thank you all for all the fucking advice you wanna give me. Well, because I'm here.

Well, this question was from somebody who is asking for hair loss. So, DHT blockers, finasteride, dutasteride, these are chemicals, prescription drugs that you can take, that reduce or eliminate the conversion of testosterone to dehydrotechnic. Isn't that what's in most all these Boswell and fucking all these hair hair club for men type fucking Shampoos. No, they don't all possess this. No, no, no, you have to have a prescription to have to have to task right a Fronasteride The shampoos may have something different, but no, these are prescription. Oh, okay now here's the one where there here's a thing with That's why I'm bold. Here's a thing with DHT. DHT is like all hormones in the body has essential functions.

Hair loss is not a, unless you have like a nutrient deficiency where you're lacking something in your diet and you're sick or whatever, if you're healthy and you're losing your hair, then you're losing your fucking hair. Like, stop trying to prevent a normal thing that's happening to your body. Thank God I feel like someone's finally defending me on the floor. Well, because here's the problem. DHT has got all these effects in the body that are very important.

For example, it increases strength through the central nervous system. It's more potent than testosterone when it comes to affecting the central nervous system. It very, very strong affects on sense of well-being, confidence, and libido. So one of the major side effects of taking anything that reduces or blocks. Boner killer. Yes. It's big libido.

This is my theory. Correct me if you think I'm wrong here, but first of all, it runs in my family. So I believe I already have the genes. I fucked around with steroids in my early 20s a lot. And so I'm sure that accelerated or expressed those genes that I already had. And then I tried, and then it was just a little bit, right? So when I saw it coming on in my mid mid to late 20s

I For sure blamed it on well That's what I get for fucking around with testosterone in my early 20s And now here's this gene that's in my family that I got I expressed it for fucking around with my hormones and All these products and let me tell you I've tried a lot of them. I haven't tried a prescription version though, so I didn't know that. But most of them, what would happen is I would feel like it made a little bit of a difference while I was taking it. It was like, you get this little peach fuzz that starts to grow a little bit.

So it kind of, to the average eye, it looks like it kind of fills it in a little bit more. But then the moment I stopped taking it, I would lose more hair. So these products, I feel like my body gets adapted to take them. Yeah, then my hair needs it to leave them to keep the little peach fuzz going on and then I end up losing more from it. So I finally just accepted this shit, just said, you know what, I like wearing fucking hats anyways. It's gonna go, it's going, you know, I'm saying It's like kind of like the hair and a can thing. The more that I fuck with it, the worse it is. So it's just one of those things that I don't,

we joke about it, but I really don't care that much. So here's what's happening. So when you have male pattern baldness or endrogenic alopecia is the technical term and women by the way, can suffer from this as well. It's just far more rare because they don't have nearly the levels of DHT that men will have.

What happens is it's not that you have high levels of DHT in your system, you know, more than others. It's that you have probably a high density of DHT receptors in your scalp, whereas some men can take all the steroids in the world and won't lose a single hair, and it's because they don't have a lot of DHT receptors in their scalp. Other men have more DHT receptors in their prostate, and so they'll suffer from, and that's your, that's me.

That's me. That's me yours truly. Now, I don't really, I'm not suffering from it yet, but I'm pretty sure I'm going to deal with, I'm going to deal with these issues as I get older. Finger check, because it's on, it's on all sides of my family. Like all the men in my family have, have dealt with some kind of prostate enlargement. And that's also because I, you know, you have a high propensity of, of receptors for DHT in the prostate. So the two methods that you can use to But two methods that you can use to prevent this natural hair loss would be either stop or reduce the conversion of testosterone to the hydro testosterone, which is not a good

idea. Because, again, remember, this is a hormone that's naturally occurring in the body that has all these other functions, or you could try to block the DHT receptors in these areas. One thing you can do, and I've told you about this atom, is you can try Saul Palmetto shampoo. Saul Palmetto shampoo has, there is some evidence that when you leave it on your scalp, it will attach to the DHT receptors in the scalp, block them so that the DHT that you naturally have flowing in your body won't attach to these receptors

and then you won't lose as much hair. The reason why you probably noticed. Now is that the idea of that is to slow down the process. It's not gonna actually regrow the hair. You may get some regrowth, but it's highly unlikely. The mostly what'll happen, and really in the studies that I've read, is that it works well for men who lose hair

on the crown of their head, not in the front, not in the forehead. For some reason, that kind of hair loss is like, that goes away and it's like the hardest thing to stop. It's the crown of the head. And this is true for manoxidil and those other drugs too, that regrow hair. It's like it works in the back of the head,

but not in the front for whatever reason. But when you use these, they'll stop or slow down hair loss. When you stop using them, what happens your body catches up to where it was going to normally be? That's why you may notice more faster hair loss. Not because you're necessarily getting a rebound effect. Although, now that I'm talking about it, it is a totally viable theory that blocking receptors may cause the upregulation of receptors because your body's always trying to balance itself out. So that's interesting, I would like to see that,

but. That's just my own personal theory. I'm not trying to say that's a factor now, but to me, I just got to the point where I was like, yeah, none of this shit's gonna make that big of a difference. Like, I'm not really tripping on it very much. No, D.H.T. is in a poor, I'll tell you what, animal. I'm sure there's a lot of people out there that are in a row.

I'll tell you what, anabolic steroids. It's okay. It's the Bruce Willis. Let's talk about anabolic steroids. Anabolic steroids are typically derivatives of testosterone, but there are some anabolic steroids that are derivatives of dehydrate testosterone, D.H.T. Bodybuilders don't typically use these steroids alone because they don't give you big mass gains.

You mean like, Maastron? Yes, but they make your muscles hard, and they give you lots of strength gains. Windstrawl is one of them. Prima Bolin is one of them. Anivara is one of them. And Maastron is one of them. Maastron in particular is known for giving you this hard look and making you real strong, but if you're any kind of propensity for hair loss and you take Mastron, that shit's going

to happen. And they're all things I fucked with. Yeah. I've taken Mastron, I've taken Antivar and I've taken what else did you say? Windstraw. Windstraw. I've taken all those. Yeah.

And Mastron is probably the worst one. I think that one's got the worst one. I actually remember the first time that I took that and I remember my hair not long afterwards. And that was actually when I started. Yeah, I was like, Oh, wow, this is the first time I'd ever seen me actually wash my hair and see the hair in my hands. Now, sometimes people are prescribed, finasteride or detasteride for ben benign hyperplasia of the prostate, you know, prostate enlargement. And it helps with that. Again, there's things you could do dieterally, and herbs and stuff you can take.

I'll tell you what, Raci, we just talked about Raci, the mushroom ratio, which I get from 4-sigmatic. That has a... Here's why I like adaptogen so much. This is why I fucking love adaptogen-type compounds like Raishi. When you take them, if you have an imbalance that balances you out, it doesn't fucking throw you

off whack in one way or the other. You know what I'm saying? So Raishi is one of those things that has been shown to balance out DHT. So if you're over-producing it or you've got some kind of, you know, if you're out of balance, it'll help bring it down and make it make it feel better. If you're under producing it, it'll bring it back up to normal level. So there's things you can do naturally that may help.

None of them are going to be as strong as the pharmaceuticals in terms of, you know, preventing hair loss. But I'll tell you what, I've had several clients, male clients who took it, who took an asteroid or a test ride, stopped taking it because they had, like erectile dysfunction from it, and then when they stopped taking it, it took months. It took months to get it back. I just started to get all weary

about putting all these different chemicals in my head to try and try. Plus one of the long-term effects. Right, just to try and slow down the process of my hair loss. And so I don't even know the name. I know someone's gonna ask me of what Katrina has me on right now, but it's just like an organic shampoo that doesn't have any fucking chemicals inside of it.

And it's like that to me. And then I wash it like every other day instead every day. You know, it raises DHT. What? There's one study that shows that creatine raises DHT a little bit and even testosterone a little bit. So good and bad. I guess, you know, guys trying to raise their testosterone levels probably take a little creatine among other things.

Next question is from M Bastia. Thoughts on steroids. Any advice for someone who found out their significant other has taken them and will probably take them again. Speaking of steroids. Yeah. Right. Talking about the same way right into that one. This is an interesting question. I almost feel like it's a relationship question or anything. It is more relationship question than it is a sterile question.

When you think about it. Yeah, because I could feel like it's sneaky. Yeah. Like I just found out as if they didn't tell you before, which is kind of a red flag. Yeah. You know, a relationship red flag. Yeah, you know, a relationship communication thing. Yeah.

Kind of a red flag and they're gonna take them again, you know, that's something you gotta talk about with each other because I know plenty of people who take animal X steroids and their spouses and significant others know and everybody's cool with it. But if that's your red line, because you may think that to yourself, like I don't want them to take it

because they're breaking the law Whatever your reason. Well in the end of the defense of the person who's not sharing it because I think right away You think I'm going back in my head thinking about that I share that with every girlfriend and I don't think I did I don't think I I think if I had a girlfriend that I was dating and we're you know Who knows how long how many months we are into a relationship? You're serious. Yeah, right and I and I was taking we are into a relationship. You're serious. Yeah. And I was taking steroids, would I share it with that person?

I don't know. I don't think I did with everyone. And mostly because if I didn't think they knew enough about it or understood it, that they would just freak out and judge over it. And it's like, I didn't want to have that conversation. And it was more like, I'm just going to avoid you. I can't. Yeah, I'm in my 20s, right? So I was, you know, I didn't want to have that conversation. It was more like, I'm just gonna avoid you. I'm a kid. Yeah, I'm in my 20s, right?

So I was, yo, I'm a grown-ass man. I had my own place. I had a girl living with me and I was technically hiding that from them for that reason. So I can relate to keeping it away from my partner for this exact reason because if she were to get freaked out to where it's like, oh my God, my partner's been taking reason because if she were to get freaked out to where it's like, oh my god, my partner's been taking steroids.

What do I do? Like, well, I mean, you don't really do anything. It's not your body. It's your, it's up to you. And if you don't, if you're not okay with being with someone that, that takes them or it is at all using them, then I guess it's something that you, you have the option to be at, out of that relationship, but for someone like me, that wouldn't obviously be a game changer or a deal breaker for me.

Well, I think a thing that we should talk about then in this is, is it a problem? Like, if somebody, if your boyfriend and or girlfriend is taking, well let's talk about guys for a second because talking about, it girls a whole different topic. Which I actually thought this was a guy asking the question. If okay, here's the thing, if a woman is taking steroids, she's hormonally making herself turn into a man.

So there's, that's, there are some. It's so bad to say this, but I feel like I'd have a different, yeah, if it's a good. Well, no, it's it's the effects of testosterone on men are more subtle than the effects of testosterone woman. It's like giving estrogen to a man like you're you're from a hormonal level. You are telling her body to become more change the whole chemistry. You are. Now that being said, when a guy is taking testosterone or steroids If he's taking the gym doses which are not replacement doses. They're taking probably you know 200 to 500 milligrams of testosterone a week at the minimum or more

Are there behavioral effects on that person? The answer? Yes, of course there is, are there studies to show that there's behavioral effects from taking, you know, 500 milligrams at testosterone a week long-term? No, because I think getting a study like that, I don't think you'd get approved to do a study like that, because the doses of testosterone that these guys are using, even at 500 milligrams, which is still considered an average dose among gym goers, is still extremely high compared to your normal testosterone levels.

And I don't know if you'd get approval to study that type of a dose. I don't know if they'd even let you administer that much to somebody long term. But you get people on the other side who take steroids like, no, it doesn't affect your behavior. I'm exactly the same. That's not true because testosterone does have behavioral effects. It is a hormone that does change how your brain develops. It does change the structure of your brain while you're on it. It does, you know, it definitely affects things like a libido and energy. So it is going to affect other things. And when you are taking that much testosterone, it does throw off other hormones like estrogen and other

hormones that react to high levels of testosterone. Can you expect that this person may have potential mood swings more than they normally would? Will they have, are they more likely to do certain things, risky behavior? These are all things that I would say probably, probably yes, I know that there was one survey study that was done on men who took anabolic steroids and they found that there were much higher rates of, and these were married men, higher rates of things like infidelity.

Now the problem with a study like that is, is it the steroids that's causing it, or is it the maybe low in security, the reason why they're taking it, causing that. So it's hard to weed this stuff out, but for so many variables that come into play here, I mean, here's a thing, like let's, let's pretend it's not steroids. Let's pretend it's any drug, like anything. And you can, and anybody who is abusing anything, I think is a red flag, and I think is something that you should probably be concerned about in a relationship.

So it doesn't, I think the fact that it's steroids is it doesn't matter. Doesn't matter that's steroids. Let's replace it with cocaine, or let's replace it with painkillers, or let's replace it with even food addiction. If you've got somebody who can't go without or needs something and they live there like that.

Now, if you are dating somebody who competes and has aspirations to be a pro bodybuilder one day and he cycles on and off occasionally and that's what he's into and really wants to, you kind of signed up for that when you probably got together with that guy or girl. And the reality is, if you're dating a hardcore competitor and you're not in that world, probably the least difficult thing you have to deal with is your steroids.

Just to be honest, you know, you're dealing with, I mean, competing is a very selfish sport, just by nature, all the food, you gotta carry and all the workouts and all that stuff. But, you know, it's the, in the flip is true too. You know, I've talked to people about this and you'll hear, I've heard women like, oh my God, you know, I'm afraid his behavior will change

and that's like, well, you take birth control, like female hormones change behavior in women too. And they're subtle, the changes are subtle, but it does change, I mean, it's, it's just as fair of an argument. It is mean, it's just as fair of an argument. It is, and it's just as fair of an argument. I don't like it when people are like, no, there's no side effects.

There's no changes in behavior if someone takes, you know, 15 times or 100 times a dose of testosterone in their body, well, that's bullshit. Of course, it's gonna have something. It could be very subtle, but it's gonna have something. Well, it tends to, and I think we've talked about it before, if you're an asshole, it tends to exaggerate that.

You know, if you're already somebody who is a prick and has a temper and then you take something like that, it tends to exactly. In my experience, it seems like less empathy is involved. Yeah, yep, and in my experience, when I've had friends, like I said, very close friends who've done hardcore cycles, the, when I see the biggest change in their behavior is when they're cycling off. Oh yeah, when they come off there. When they come out because it's so unbalanced that they be, it's not good. That's when I see the bad shit.

That's when you know, yeah, that's what you really see what it was ramping up to and they're like often it's like this hot mess and crying and all these like crazy feelings. They can get emotional or just like really fucking pissed off, become assholes. Yeah. You know, because they're just, they don't feel good, you know, I'm saying. What I've noticed when my buddies will take high doses,

when they're taking the high doses, all I notice is they just, they're, what I would see, typically, not all of them, because some of them just, you can't even tell, but some of you just get this inflated ego, right? Like, oh my God, I feel fucking great. I can live, I can do all these different things. I'm so horny, I'm so fucking, you some of you just get this inflated ego, right? Like, oh my God, I feel fucking great. I can live. I can do all these different things.

I'm so horny. I'm so fucking, you know, masculine and all this shit. And, but I mean, if they're hiding it from you, I think the problem isn't necessarily the steroids. It's the fact that maybe you don't have the communication. Well, and I think that, because I feel like right now, and I'm trying to defend the he or her. I don't know if it's, I can't, this person's profile is private.

So I don't know if I'm talking to a female or male but I feel the need to defend the other person because I think with communication and in my relationships in the past so like Katrina and I have a total different relation it's full disclosure she knew from day one everything I always you know she's the best right and I think that it took me years until I was in my 30s that I realized, like that's the relationship I want. I want a relationship that I can share anything and everything that I do and not be judged by my partner,

be able to communicate it. And then her openly be able to say, I have a problem with it and say she doesn't like it. And you know, and I've told her that before, and you know, if I wouldn't want her to, like I'd want her to not be okay if she saw me abusing something or letting it take control of my life and I would like that open communication.

So I think as a partner, you have to be careful too on how you come at this conversation because if you hammer this, your partner for not sharing this, maybe they didn't share it for a reason because you may be the type of person that's inflammatory when you share something that maybe you don't agree or know a lot about. Or you haven't really shared anything about you.

Well, you know, I don't know. Someone like this, like, you know, I don't know the person who's taking it. Hopefully they have done a little bit of their own homework and research on what it is they're doing and for whatever reasons they're doing it for that maybe you have not done that much research. You don't know that much about it. research on what it is they're doing and for whatever reasons they're doing it for, that maybe you don't have, you have not done that much research, you don't know that much about it.

And then you're just assuming that, oh my god, it's so scary, it's so bad, it's so dangerous, these things. And then your conversation, you deliver that message that way. And so, of course, the partner is going to be in defense or not want to share certain things with you. It's like anything else, you know, I think it's the same thing when you get relationships where the partner cheats all the time because the other partner is so like is like a hover is hovering over you all time and in your business. That always drives the partner into cheating on you. It's so crazy.

Anyone that's been in enough relationships, when you have all the freedom in the world, it's less desirable to go run off and cheat on somebody. But if you've got a partner who's calling you every five minutes, wanting to wear you out, what are you doing, what are you doing? It's always that relationship where they end up cheating. That's not a lie. The first thing that comes of mind for me when someone's that, like checking on you, you know, what are you doing?

It's like, first thought in my mind is like, why would I tell them anything? Well, not only that, but what are you doing? Right. You know what I mean? Like, people who tend to be super suspicious like that, they're the ones that tend to be the one. And I feel like the same thing goes with something like this. It's like everybody, you know, if you, if it's bothering you so much

that they didn't share it like, well, maybe, and again, this is just how I approach it. If I'm this person, I'm always looking at myself. What, how can I make this? Why, why didn't this person want to share this with me? Why didn't they feel comfortable? Right, why exactly? Like if Katrina was hiding something like this from me, like, let's just say, we've been together for six and a half years and all of a sudden, I found out

she dabbles in cocaine a little bit. She's not, like addicted, but you know, sometimes she has crazed, crazed, yeah, no, that's how this could feel for this person, right? Right? Totally. And so one day I find out, I just happen to be putting away her panties from laundry and she's got a little bag of cocaine in there. And I'm like, what the fuck is this? And she's like, oh man, it's just, you know, sometimes works crazy and I just, I need

a little pick me up. And I'm like, oh my god. And so we get this terrible It would be right would be but this could be kind of like this person feels now How do I react right six and a half years deep we share everything together? We know we think about each other and And she tells me and what if she told me okay, how would you handle this she tells me that Honey that little bag you see right there. That's lasted me

And so sorry, hun, for putting, using, using an example and cocaine because my girl doesn't do any of that shit. But let's just say, that's why I would be so bimble because she doesn't do any of that. If she, and she tells me that, that little baggie, she's had for over a year and she hasn't even gone through half of it. So maybe I can count on one hand how many times that she's actually done it and used it. Now, how do I handle that? What am I really mad at my mad? Cause she's done cocaine five times. Or because she hasn't shared.

Or that she hasn't shared. Right, right? Or that she hasn't shared. But really, I'm not mad at her in this whole situation. I'm wondering, cause we have such an open relationship and we talk so much about that. Why then she talked to me? Yeah, why wouldn't you just tell me like

that you needed that? I had a buddy years ago who was, just this guy was hardcore into dabbing with all the steroids. Terrible genetics, too. You would never know this guy took shit tons of gear. But anyway, he starts dating this girl and she knows about all the stuff that he took and he talks her into letting him inject her

with testosterone because he knows testosterone makes people horny. So he's thinking like, oh dude, you know, yeah, so I'm going to give my girl testosterone. She's going to get horny. We're going to get all freaky. It's going to be so fun. What? Yeah. So he starts, he gives her testosterone.

He fucking gives her, okay, this is true true story now. This is way back. Oh my god. Way back when I was When I the first month I was a system manager at 24 fitness he gave her A freaking shot of Sustonon 250 250 milligrams. Oh my god. I've testosterone to a woman to a woman Which is a lot of fucking testosterone for a woman. And she loses, she fucking loses her mind. Like if fucks with her head so much, she becomes this emotional mess. And that's long acting. That should look like weeks to get out of her system, but it was terrible. It was terrible. Oh, yeah,

it was Terry's like, and she was, what a dumb shit. Wow. Yeah. I would address. He's like, this will make you horny. I'm like, why don't you just fucking buy her flowers? Regardless of the fit. Why would you do that? Take her to a romcom. Yeah, I would I would address. He's like, this will make you horny. I'm like, why don't you just fucking buy your flowers? Regardless. Why would you do that? Take her to a romcom. Yeah. I would, I would, uh, I would address the communication and the relationship.

And I wouldn't be, uh, so angry about it as I would be more curious about why, why we are not at a point in our relationship where we can openly discuss these type of things because if it is somebody I love and that I wanna spend the rest of my life potentially with, I definitely don't want them to feel like they can't express or share with me and they're gonna hide all this shit. So to me, I would address that.

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As a health and fitness promoter, would you consider a vegetarian lifestyle in the future? You know what? The sky is falling. You know what? The sky is falling. Let me tell you something right now. Do you need to go here?

This is what we're gonna do, because he's right. Cattle do produce a lot of greenhouse gases. She's right. Cattle produce a lot of greenhouse gases. So we need to eat them all. So we need to eat them all. Eat all the cows.

That's nonsense. So this shit will stop him. And I'm gonna meet. So you get, okay, so this is why I love these questions like this. Because you always have to slow down, don't have a knee jerk reaction, and understand who's giving the message and why the message message is given. Is the message that we need

to go vegetarian? Is it being promoted by actual environmentalists or is it being promoted by vegans who don't want us to eat animals? The truth is, it's an argument made by vegans. Environmentalists typically, they talk about changing the ways that we raise our food and do our food and all that stuff, but they don't really have the stance that everybody needs to be vegan. This is a vegan stance, and what vegans do,

especially those who are vegans for moral reasons they use every argument possible to try to convince people to not eat animals and the latest one is it's better for the environment and it's only an argument because of the political landscape where you have politicians who are using the environment as a wedge to get people to vote one way or another. This is also if you still buy into global warming also. Well, because we are global cooling before, now we're global warming, we can't make a reminder. The ice perks are melting, but another one's growing.

So what the fuck? Yeah, well, I mean, What the fuck do you do? As far as the environment is concerned. Did you know that? I didn't know that until I actually went up there. Yeah. When we went up to go to the glacier bay, and of course they talk about global warming and

they're showing us like the glaciers. This is where they were in 1960. This is where they were at in 1990 and this is where they're at now. But nobody ever talks about that. So out of all these glaciers, I think I can't remember how many were in glacier bay park. There's a ton of them, right? There's actually a significant percentage of them that are actually growing. That the great glaciers are actually. Well, here's like not known information. All right, so we're going to go down this path. So, so here's the thing you want to consider with,

with that. You think I'm a flat earther. Here's the thing you want to go down, you want to consider with that. This topic always revolves around. I know it's a third rail. It is a very complicated, very complicated topic. Many, many, many scientists believe that we are in fact influencing global climate trends. I'm not a scientist in this. I'm not going to debate them. Here's the real debate. The real debate is Because what we also need to understand is that the 20th century saw the largest migration of the world's poor To the world's middle class the fastest and largest migration that we saw in all of human history we literally

The the United Nations or you know, there were organizations whose goals were to reduce poverty by X percent, and we exceeded that like a decade earlier. Part of the reason is because markets became more free worldwide, which we know grows prosperity. And the other part is this is fueled by petroleum-based products. The industrial revolution started. If we eliminate oil and petroleum-based products, which by the way, it's not just oil, we use these products and everything, if we eliminate that, you will see a massive,

massive, massive death worldwide. If we reduce production of greenhouse gases through legislation, like if we say, hey, if you produce, you got to pay a tax on all this, or you can't produce the greenhouse gases, wealthy people, like us, I mean, we'll notice like things are more expensive stuff, but we're okay. But you go to an emerging market, like some people in China or Brazil or Mexico or you know, areas in Africa where these people two decades ago were you know, super poor and now they're coming out they're considered emerging markets.

You implement some of this legislation on them and you're going to see people dying. You're going to see people starving to death. You're going to see problems. Why is that? Because a tax or legislation on us who have all this money, it'll affect us, but not that much. But you throw that on people on these emerging markets, and it becomes a big fucking deal. You add a 10% tax on something to people who have just come out of poverty, and now you're talking about starving these people to death. So what we need to really do is fucking figure this out. Like, fine, we want to eliminate greenhouse gases, but how many people is that going to kill versus how many people is going to save,

and the math in order to calculate this is fucking astounding, and it's super hard to figure out. Like, if you guys watched Al Gore's documentary in an inconvenient truth, the first one or whatever, figure out, like if you guys watched Al Gore's documentary in an inconvenient truth, the first one or whatever, by now he predicted we all be underwater and crazy shit would happen, and this was based on the science. Obviously it was wrong.

Because it's a very complicated thing to figure out. So as far as the environment is concerned, I think it's definitely a good thing to want a cleaner environment. Right, I just don't think it's definitely a good thing to want a cleaner environment. Right. I just don't think it's a fucking smart thing to have this new and let me tell you something right now. There are special interests on both sides. There are people who are profiting from pushing this agenda that we need to have these crazy, you know, environmental restrictions on everybody because they profit from those as well. They also eliminate competition.

Nothing by the way is going to change or improve the environment faster than innovation that is cheaper than petroleum. This whole conspiracy that there's the answer out there for clean energy, but nobody wants bullshit. That's bullshit. Every company in the world would fucking love an invention that made it cheaper and more efficient for them to produce energy Every if somebody discovered that okay tomorrow everybody would dump oil. That's a fat Well, that's just the way the argument to go vegan and to eliminate the cows because of this is would be as silly as to

Because the cows are number three is what they claim. Oh for environmental So you want to know what number one would be is us. Well, we're fucking waste. Yes, it's coming from us. Right. It's our waste, right? Our waste and our gas, our farts, our fucking outdoing the cattle.

So at that rate, we should go with China's mentality, which we would stop, you can only have one child and we should start to fucking tell people that how many kids they're allowed to have and start killing off the kids. And it's also look, food waste is a bigger producer of pollution for the earth and vegetable and products, we throw more of that away than we do meat and fish products. And by the way, growing plants isn't this environmentally friendly, awesome thing.

Transporting it, having the land to plant it. We also tend to stick to certain crops because of their ease of how we grow them. They tend to be GMO. Because of that, we spray the fuck out of the earth with these chemicals. And that's it. And that's it. Kill the critters at trying to eat them. Yeah, so really, if we really want to do the right thing with our food supply to, for the environment,

what we'll end up doing is eating insects and eating like algae's, like we'll grow algae's instead of growing corn wheat and all this rice, rice is tremendous amount of water to produce rice and all this stuff. We'll eat things like algae, like spirulina, whatever. And we'll, you know, I think you're gonna, I think the things which,

why I'm so excited for us to partner up with a company like Thrive, is I think the future of helping stuff like this is more like this, these ability to get, gather everybody, like as a community. It's really like a farmer's market online when you think about it. That's what they're creating.

And you wanna talk about the ideal way for us to be consuming and eating would be that. And that was the hard thing was not everybody has access to a farmer's market, right? You don't not everybody has that ability where there's ways we can improve, you know, the industrial, farmling sort of big time, you know, mentality and like the reality is there's a lot of fucking people out there that, that, you know, mentality and like the reality is there's a lot of fucking people out there that you know We need to produce all this meat towards and like I think that it's just gotten out of control to where it's just become this machine that You know, it definitely needs an eye and and it needs you know, there needs to be sustainable options and needs to be better ways to You know to bring the community involved and get more in touch with the way that we do all these things.

I see that, but to say, to just go stark vegan vegetarian doesn't make sense. No, what this reminds me of is when people do something like, they'll say something like ban guns so we can save children. When, you know, swinging pulls kill way more kids, but nobody says ban swimming pulls, right? That would actually be more rational, like swinging pulls kill way more fucking kids, ban swinging pulls, guarantee we'll save way more children, less children, we'll drown. When it comes to food, what's way more important than this, and that makes a bigger impact that we can do right now, is change our own fucking behavior,

because nobody wants to change their own. Everybody wants to make a law for everybody else. Here's what you do. Stop throwing away so much food, that's it. Do you know how much food, develop nations, throw in the fucking garbage? Because we end up, because we don't eat it, or because we buy all this food, and it goes bad in the fucking garbage because we end up, because we don't eat it or because we buy all this food

and it goes bad in the refrigerator because we're idiots with the way we plan our meals and stuff. That alone will solve way more problems in this whole, let's eliminate cattle and start growing different foods, which is way more complicated, way more difficult to do. Stop being so wasteful.

That's it. Literally, if everybody was 10% less wasteful, you would make way more headway than eliminating all the cows on the street. It also reminds me of these celebrities who go and preach about how, you know, you guys, your carbon footprint is too high and blah.

And they're flang around on their private jet. With one trip. One trip on their private jet will make more oil in the ocean. Well, it'll be, it's a bigger carbon footprint than I can produce my whole life on my car. With one flight. You know what I mean? It's just, the hypocrisy is just fucking,

it's infuriating. It is funny, they miss that. Yeah, so that's the stance right there. And now that we've pissed everybody off. Well, no, and of course, I'm sure it's a vegan who's asking the question. We promote, you know, eating vegan once a week. I think it's a great, a great way to, yeah. Well, no, and of course, I'm sure it's a vegan who's asking the question. We promote, you know, eating vegan once a week. I think it's a great way to eat,

yeah, I think it's healthy to do that. I definitely don't think it's a healthy way to have a lifestyle though, unless you are, I mean, super dialed and if you are super dialed. It takes a lot of planning. It does, it takes a lot of planning. It's in, and then you have to supplement.

Right. So, I mean, if you're, if you're okay with that lifestyle and you like it, then more power to you, but I definitely am not going to become a promoter of something that I think is more challenge. I think people have a hard enough time eating, right, or making good choices for their body. If you limit that to and you make it even more challenge of them, no, we're not going to have more success.

The future of food production isn't in producing more food. It's in our distribution of how we provide that food to people, how to get it to people without a lot of it going bad, how to give people opportunities to be more prosperous so they can purchase food. That's eliminate preservatives and see what happens. Yeah, it's just, really it's in production, is not the problem. We have a lot of, we make a lot of...

I think we're gonna start going backwards. I think we're gonna have more, more and more people will start growing their own stuff, I think. I think that, I think you're gonna see, I mean, I know I want to. I know that's one of my things, I wanna have a property where I can, where I can pretty much live off my land for the most part.

I think that's gonna, I think eventually prices will get so ridiculous in order to have it to know it's clean sourced and all these things. They eventually just be like, honey, this is ridiculous. Instead of us putting a garage for our car that we don't drive anymore. Meanwhile, the industry is trying to come up with some kind of genetically like created meat. That's just meat. It's just going by.

It just bypassed the animal in like completely. And now it's like, oh, well, there's no conflict with this meat, that's just meat. It just broke. It just bypassed the animal. And like completely now it's like, oh well there's no conflict with this meat, right? This is grown. At some, I'm sure at some point they'll figure out how to make synthetic food that's good for you. They have a figure, they're nowhere near figuring that out. Yeah, so don't try it. But at some point science should take this food.

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