Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 616: Cutting Without Losing Muscle, the Possible Health Benefits of Halo Top, Importance of Cardio Before Lifting & MORE

Episode Date: October 13, 2017

Kimera-Quah! In this episode of Quah, sponsored by Kimera Koffee (kimerakoffee.com, code "mindpump" for 10% off), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about the optimal length of time and way to do a cut without losing muscle, the necessity of warming up the body with cardio before lifting, low calorie “healthy” foods like Halo Top and their effect on a person’s relationship with food and what they miss about personal training. American Gladiator reborn? (5:04) Podcast circuit (6:50) Taylor/Drew get some love (14:15) Justin and Drew capture Spartan race in different light (17:15) Quah question #1 – Is there any optimal length of time and way to do a cut without losing muscle? (20:23) Quah question #2 – Is it true you need to warm up your body with cardio before lifting weights? (27:35) Quah question #3 – What do you think of low calorie “healthy” foods like Halo Top and their effect on a person’s relationship with food? (37:10) Quah question #4 – Do you miss personal training? (47:23) Related Links/Products Mentioned: Podcast – PaleOMG “What Mind Pump Says When Ben's Not Around.” (Ben Greenfield Fitness Podcast) Spartan Race 2017: The FULL Experience | Mind Pump – (YouTube) MAPS Prime/Prime Pro Training with Dr. Justin Brink (Mind Pump – YouTube Series) Palatable Hyper-Caloric Foods Impact on Neuronal Plasticity (study) Halo Top and the future of ice cream - CNBC.com (article) Organifi Discount Code "mindpump" People Mentioned: Joe DiStefano | STACK Andy Galpin (@drandygalpin)  Instagram Josh Trent (@WellnessForce)  Instagram Ben Greenfield (@bengreenfield)  Twitter Shanna Mota (@shannamota)  Instagram Drew Canole (@drewcanole)  Instagram Dr. Justin Brink (@premiere_spine_sport)  Instagram Would you like to be coached by Sal, Adam & Justin? You can get 30 days of virtual coaching from them for FREE at www.mindpumpmedia.com. Get our newest program, MAPS Prime Pro, which shows you how to self assess and correct muscle recruitment patterns that cause pain and impede performance and gains. Get it at www.mindpumpmedia.com! Get MAPS Prime, MAPS Anywhere, MAPS Anabolic, MAPS Performance, MAPS Aesthetic, the Butt Builder Blueprint, the Sexy Athlete Mod AND KB4A (The MAPS Super Bundle) packaged together at a substantial DISCOUNT at www.mindpumpmedia.com. Make EVERY workout better with MAPS Prime, the only pre-workout you need… it is now available at mindpumpmedia.com Have Sal, Adam & Justin personally train you via video instruction on our YouTube channel, Mind Pump TV. Be sure to Subscribe for updates. Also check out Thrive Market! Thrive Market makes purchasing organic, non-GMO affordable. With prices up to 50% off retail, Thrive Market blows away most conventional, non-organic foods. PLUS, they offer a NO RISK way to get started which includes: 1. One FREE month’s membership 2. $20 Off your first three purchases of $49 or more (That’s $60 off total!) 3. Free shipping on orders of $49 or more Get your Kimera Koffee at www.kimerakoffee.com, code "mindpump" for 10% off! Get Organifi, certified organic greens, protein, probiotics, etc at www.organifi.com Use the code “mindpump” for 20% off. Go to foursigmatic.com/mindpump and use the discount code “mindpump” for 15% off of your first order of health & energy boosting mushroom products. Add to the incredible brain enhancing effect of Kimera Koffee with www.brain.fm/mindpump 10 Free sessions! Music for the brain for incredible focus, sleep and naps! Also includes 20% if you purchase! Please subscribe, rate and review this show! Each week our favorite reviewers are announced on the show and sent Mind Pump T-shirts! Have questions for Mind Pump? Each Monday on Instagram (@mindpumpmedia) look for the QUAH post and input your question there. (Sal, Adam & Justin will answer as many questions as they can)

If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. Mite, op, mite, op with your hosts. Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. In this episode of Mind Pump, for the first 15 minutes, we do our typical intro. Why did you say 15? Doug wrote 16. My bad. 16. Was it 16? Is that 16 it 16 is it oh wow is your site going like that? It's a 16 minutes Ram I well Get him squinting just UCM squinting right now to do that. I cannot see them all just and I know it's got bad side

But you really bad I do man. I'm the one wearing the glasses. You know, you know, it sucks Do I had you borrow my laser eyes surgery a while ago to oh you better get your money back? It was a long time ago. That was a bad laser It was a bad laser. Yeah, very good. So we start off by talking about our dog just blew up the letters It looks like our favorite We talk about our favorite interviews in the past 30 days man. It's been going like fire. We talk about Do I drew? Do I true? And Taylor we gave some love to Taylor and Justin's

Run run and gun at the sparring interviews and then we we also mentioned Sean who's our representative from organify who we absolutely loved she you know Drew can only if you're listening right now she represents your brand very very well we're thinking about getting engaged with you guys we're on the fence right now we're kind of courting right now we like you're flirting I see what you did. You sent your, what your superstar, Shana, over to meet us and kind of win us over. And then you throw over a contract to lock us in for the rest of our lives. I see you guys. I see what you're

doing. We like what you're doing. And she like your style. But you know, it was cool. She brought the, because we all, I've, nobody remembered to bring their green juice, which was I was like Fuck we were scared we were scared because we were going so hard But Sean had delivered hooked it up gave us the green juice and I got to give it all weekend I got to give it to Drew for his first time ever and he loved it little do I drew a little 19 So those are you energized those of you that stay on top of all of our YouTube channel You can see how much

Organify green juice affects editing skills. Yeah, I love better take a look at what we have time on YouTube By the way, if you want to get organized by products go to organifyshop.com enter the code mind pump And you'll get a fat massive big discount Whoa, then we get into the questions the first was, is there an optimal length of time to do a cut without losing muscle and would a slower cut be better for your metabolism than a faster one? Find out if the answer is 172 hours. No cuts, no butts, no coconuts. The next question was, is it true that you need to warm up the body with cardio before

lifting? The answer is no. Should we be aimless or purposeful? And yes. Do you know how to golf? The next question was, what are our thoughts on low calorie, quote unquote, healthy foods like halotop

and how they affect a person's relationship with food? For example, Justin. Find out how much ice cream I used to eat every single day. And Justin ate like 15 meat bars the other day. Yeah, I like them. Meat bars. But they're healthy. They're gonna be like,

finally, the last question. Is there anything we miss about personal training? Me and Justin miss it. Adam hated it. He talks about it. Adam just dumped everybody. I was like, peace. He talks about it in this episode.

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Bodybuilding, Marathon, Running, whatever. That bundle. We're crazy shit, you're doing it. Get them together and you get a discount of right. That bundle will help you out. Again, it's at mindpumpmedia.com. Dude, you know what would be the best? Is if somebody finally came out with like an American Gladiator course, right? And they were like trying to throw shit at you and you know, you

had to run through them and like, see, you want to be amazing. You want one real danger life. Yeah. To me, American Gladiator needs to be reborn because that whole I love that so did I people get Jack didn't who didn't love American glad that show you was had these like a roll it out I'm not true. They were yeah, they were the yeah, what about the women her Kidding like I feel like if they were and remember Joe was a Joe de Stefano was telling us back in the days How they has to have the gladiators the jackam- You jack him at the end, and there's finishes. I love that idea. You know what I saw once that I thought was brilliant?

This was, and I think it was around Halloween, and might even be happening now, is they have these races where they're scary, and you're running through obstacles and shit, and then there's people that have crazy makeup on to look like zombies and monsters and shit. And they fucking chase you down in the scary situation.

Now you're adrenaline running. Yeah dude, think about how fun that would be. You know what I'm saying? Cause you know it's fake. Like loud dogs on chains. Just, I think it would be cool just to have like a backpack version of member of the gun they used to have that shot the tennis balls.

Yeah. And you could be on the track. On the trail, you know, like hidden in places. You come around, you come around the corner, like I was going, tennis ball just pelched you in the side of the head. Everybody's wearing helmets, they're so fat. Right. I think it'd be awesome. That would take it now.

Now, now let's go extreme extreme. You know what I mean? Super extreme. Super extreme. Super extreme. Yeah,, super extreme super extreme. Yeah, you may die. Yeah, most people die. Hey, you were, you were getting interviewed this morning.

What was the podcast? What was paleo OMG? Oh, yeah, Julie Bauer. Oh, Jay. Uh, how would you think? Oh, great. She, you know, her style is, um, she's pretty, she can be raw on her show.

What the life? Did she swear when she, wow, on her show? Yeah, she did. Did she, when she... On her show? Yeah, she did. Did she win she interview? No, because I did most of the talking. Right. Which is kind of weird. Which kind of happens.

But no, I classed a couple times on the show. Who were... Okay, so I mean, I can't even count how many interviews we've done this last 30 days. What are some of your guys' top two or so that you would say? Like, Dr. Indigilpin. Wow, you said that fast. I've really enjoyed it.

Wow. That we interviewed. Either we interviewed, oh, either or, or interviewed us, interview us, or that either one. What are some of your favorite like interviews?

Dalpin is great. He was good. I thought Josh Trent, the wellness force did a great job. He did a great job. And you know, there's, not all podcasters have that ability to do that like he does.

And so I'd say he's probably one of the better interviewers that I've been interviewing podcasters. He's what's interesting is he, we talked about this a lot like his idea to podcasters with him too. And it was like the free flow form, you know, that we kind of have like he picked up on that right away because he used to overplan and like he was interviewing a lot of CEOs and you know, that we kind of have like he picked up on that right away, because he used to overplan and like he was interviewing a lot of CEOs and you know, people that like

he needed a lot of background on and so he would do all this like planning and structure. No man. He just started ripping it out like that and he's doing really well. Dude, if you look at the greatest interviewers of all time, they may plan, sure, like a barbell Walters or Howard Stern. I'm sure they have an idea, but it never comes across scripted and it always comes across as very conversational.

So that's what you got to kind of do. Josh Trent does a good job with that. But we had a great episode with him up at the Spartan race. Yeah, no, he, in my opinion of all the interviewers and interviewees that we've dealt with, I think that Josh Trent is by far the most talented. He's one of the most underrated, considering how good he, and the definition of good to me, and you guys can interrupt or you tell me what you feel. Right. I think somebody who has this ability to let the conversation just naturally flow.

Like nothing drives me more crazy when people ask these scripted questions, they calculate it. Well, and they don't flow with the conversation. It's like you asked me about something that's related to my childhood and also you jump over to like carbs. Yeah, right? It's like, oh, that's not now. childhood and then also when you jump over to carbs. Yeah, right?

It's like, oh, that's not now. I would never communicate with somebody like that in real life. If we were all just bullshitting having a conversation, I wouldn't be talking about sports. And then also when I ask you a business question, that just doesn't- It shouldn't feel like an interview.

Yeah. Because when we first started interviewing people, we had that issue where it was like, do I ask these questions, what do I do and then we did our own episode? They were so great and we're just like why don't we just do the same thing? I can't we capture this yeah, why don't we do the same thing and just have a conversation? I would be with you, so I really liked the Josh Trent episode a lot um, and then who I you know the Ben Greenfield one that was probably one of my favorite uh, that was Ben Greenfield episodes

You know what you know know what it was, because that was very interview-like. So it was, you know, well, he was just reading questions. That's what it was and Ben knows us. So the way it worked is, it's actually up, it's up right now. Yeah, it's up there. Go check it out on Ben Greenfield's podcast. Yeah, so Ben got in the conversation

for the first 15 minutes and then he had to leave. So he had somebody stand in Brock and he gave Brock a list of questions, but Ben knows us Yeah, so he asked the like good questions that got us into his nice conversations Mm-hmm, and then the rest was good. It was good. Have you have you listened to it yet? So have you I've listened a half did you did you hear where I totally insulted him with the 1990 business school? Oh, that's just so happens to be what I went. That looks, yeah, or on purpose.

And then Sal, there's an accidental dick here. Accidental dick. You did. You even did an accident ever that way. Oh, yeah. Well, he was, he made the reference, which I hear all the time, is I don't remember when we first started this. Everybody wants to know, who's your niche market?

Like, who, give me your avatar, who's your direct customer? And I hate that. And to me, it's so business school from 1990, before the, the, while, while, west of the web, before you get to reach like hundreds of thousands of millions of people, yeah. Right.

And so I get it, I understand where that comes from. I mean, there's a lot of, there's definitely a lot of truth to it. There is. I'll give you an example. We go on like podcasts, because we know that world, right? You'll get on the podcast, you'll look at the what's new and notable and all stuff. And a nice chunk of them will have in their title something that already niches them

like, you know, like paleo podcast or keto something or the CrossFit podcast or whatever, because and it gets the attention, right? It's a traffic. It does because if I'm like a super fanatical, you know, keto person and I search through podcasts, the first one's gonna pop up is the one with the name, with the, you know, keto in the name.

The problem is where do you go from there? Yeah, right. You're gonna talk about keto all the time. The problem is, where do you go from there? Yeah. You're gonna talk about Keto all the time forever. You set your ceiling. You have no, like, future plans, like, what do you do? Yeah. And I think, and personally, a part of that decision was selfish on all of our parts.

Like, I don't want it to just talk about one. I think so. No. If you're gonna ask us to do an episode, you know, pretty much every day, you're gonna have to give me more than just fitness to talk about. Or I'm, as much as I love fitness, like I'll go crazy, all of us, right? So, you know, that's, there's, there's some people that think that's a smart strategy. And I guess if that's, it's short versus long-term thinking, you know, because

like you could, you could make a great business and a little niche business that people know you for that subject, right? You become the expert in that realm, but, you know, like after that, like you said, it's gonna get capped. Like there's nowhere else that you can really, you know, maneuver from there. It's gonna be tough. And here's what happens when you attach yourself to a movement that's niche or whatever. If you do a good job of it and you're the best, yes, you'll get this meteoric explosion attached to it. However, at some point, these things always swing back.

So like, if you were like, when Atkins, remember the Atkins diet when that came out? I know it was like the big thing because it was low carb, high fat, it was your opposite, whatever it was being told. Yep. Imagine if you had an Atkins podcast at that time. I bet you they said it.

You would have blown up, probably. It would have blown up, but then remember, and then when the popular run down, guess what happens to your audience, and that goes down too. You know, it's not really the best long-term strategy, if you ask me. No, I agree. I 100% agree with that.

You know who I fell in love with over this trip? Shana. No. She's awesome though. She's the organified, yeah. I have a conversation with her. Yeah, she's our organified contact. Yeah.

And she's awesome, awesome young lady. And she gave us some more free green juice. I know, that's why I love her. But you know what I fell in love with? Drew. Drew. Drew, a little boy. He's our dude.

Our doai Drew. Our doai Drew. He's so cute. So we have, I thought you were gonna say, because this was the first time, and I was telling Katrina this last night, I thought you were gonna say it because this was the first time and You know, I was talking to Trina this last night. I was really excited to finally get Taylor to sit down and share his already loved Taylor I know yeah, we had a great conversation with him. Go ahead that well that that's just it is like so I of course because I know Taylor really well and you know was impressed with him long time ago

I knew it's also and you guys just I with him long time ago. I knew his whole story and you guys just I think trust my judgment if I say, hey, this is our guide. Just trust me. And we worked with him for a little while. Right. So I think everybody really loves him and respects him. But for the first time, I think he actually shared his complete story of how he built his little empire and how much of an authority he was in his in his niche, right? In the in the shoe shoe world, like how he and how he created that for himself and how talented he really was, man. And so it's pretty cool to I got to watch you guys hear all of that for the first time

and get to listen to him because he's not one to talk a lot, right? He's not one to say he's not trying to boast about it. Not at all. Not at all. Not at all his style. And I knew one day would come where, you know, first of all, when I brought him on, it was more like, I know that you guys will see through his work how good he is. And that's pretty much like you said, how you've gained respect for him already. And then the time would come that there'd be an opportunity for him to share his whole

story. And it was cool to watch you guys get to listen to that for the first time really. Yeah, he's a very hard working passion driven artist with what he does and he's got incredible intuitive abilities for social media and media in general. I mean, he's really, really good at what he does. So it's awesome to have him and then Drew is his little brother, his little 19 year old brother, who is another, and I asked him like, is this like in your jeans? His brother very talented also, with like editing and film and stuff like that.

Super passionate little guy who will sit at his computer and just like a laser being focused on it and complete these tasks and you know, it was cool watching him hanging out with us because he was so excited about everything. And then he gets so tired. Dude. He's like everybody's like a million miles an hour

and then it's like where'd Drew go? Oh, he's sleeping again. Tuckerd Owl. He's so cute. Dude, what'd you guys do? You guys went to wake him up? Oh yeah, yeah. Dude, it was a lot of fun actually.

I coined us the run and gun because we just like hijacked the entire way. Oh, it was you and him. Yeah, just me and him and like, I can't wait for that video by the way. Oh my God, I can't wait to show you guys. Yeah, it was like, it was madness because he kind of brings that out of me.

More and he wants me to kind of be a little more ridiculous and stuff. And so he's kind of getting more comfortable at, you know, coaching and producing me a little bit. And stuff, and we kind of riff back and forth of like, what about this idea? What about this guy? This guy's a character.

Let's go get him. You know, and it was just a lot of fun. And hopefully that comes out in the video when he cuts it up. Tell everybody what you kind of did to give us kind of a, what an idea without spoiling everything. What did you guys do? So the plan really was to do that. By the way, so the listeners know, like Sal and I and Doug,

we were doing other stuff, we were super busy and Justin and Drew took off back to the Spartan race where all the competitors have already raced and everything, because everything's over there. And then you guys went over to shoot some films. So we were just trying to kind of capture a little bit more of the culture of Spartan race, and you know, because every community has like their own like little like nuanced

stuff, like they dress a certain way, they have like certain vendors they bring into the event, you know, it's just a certain vibe. And so our plan was really to try and capture that and like, you know, have fun with it and find people that really stood out and ask them, you know, ask fun with it and find people that really stood out and ask them, you know, ask them about like what they're wearing. You know, ask them about like their experience running the race and we found some pretty interesting characters and I mean, I'm running around

with like a helmet at some point. Yeah, I'm saying, I'm like interviewing these poor girls like an asshole with this like foam thing on a stick. Like it wasn't even a real mic. You know, we just like, we just hijacked it. I'm talking to like legit businesses and everything and they're like, who are you? Like what is this?

It didn't even say anything on it, you know? So it was really like kind of like a rogue. Like let's fucking just go crazy. What is it? Would you say it was one of your, because you guys have done this. Now you did it at Paleo. Yeah, you've done this now here. I think we did it another time too

Is was this one of your favorite what do you think this was like paleo on steroids? Oh wow Yeah, we went we went deep so yeah, we and it'll get crazier and crazier the more that like I think I feel comfortable To where I can flirt the line where I'll probably get kicked out or one of these events But even if you do that's great film. Yeah. You are really good when you go off on your own and do that kind of shit for sure, and it just keeps getting better than more you practice it. Like, I could not do that, like you do.

I'm trying to work on it. I feel like this is something that's just fun for me. And so it's something I can do. I think at some point, we could do it to where, if we could somehow see you and me and Adam can commentate. Yes. Somewhere while you're doing shit, I'll be the guy in the field, you know,

like getting all the athletes and all that engaged. Well, I could see us using the Sling Studio like that, like how cool would that be? Like where's Doug's like controlling like which camera? Oh, we're over here with Justin right now, live with you. He's out in the field. Yeah. I'm just getting this, let's see, Justin's talking to someone about my guy bar if you guys could like tell me what to say in my earpiece

Follow that and then I'm talking because you know we're gonna say some crazy show that would be amazing I told you to oh my god, I have an idea look at that. See I don't get to hear ideas how that this pans out Yeah, do that and everybody is sober right now. That's pretty good. Perfectly so. Nothing. Almost. It's almost very good. 100%. You guys want to bring the sober bird on?

Let's do this. Yeah, let's go. Wow. We call it a planet. We call it a planet. We call it a planet. We call it a planet. We call it a planet.

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Quique-quique. All right, our first question is from Tracy Cameron 46. Is there an optimal length of time and way to do a cut without losing muscle? And would a slower cut affect your metabolism more than a faster one or vice versa? Okay, so you want to cut for exactly 72 days. I know, I know. Like, see, go in here. Exactly 72 days and I know This is it's so I'm surprised you even picked this question because just so the audience knows

Sometimes it's really hard for us to pick a question when somebody asks very specific things for themselves, right? I'm this but like people like to put and remember like we're trying to help thousands of people So when someone asks a question that's really, really particular to their goals, it's really tough to give an answer that really benefits everybody. And this one is getting, is flirting with that, that line of, okay, well, you know, is there an optimal length of time and way to cut without, well, no, because everybody is unique. Every, this answer is different for every single person when you go, like, when you ask a question like that, right?

But I think we can generally say, taking more time is probably better, right? They're going super fast. Because the follow-up is, would a slower cut affect your metabolism more than a faster? Yeah. The way, yeah, a slower cut is a much healthier approach towards it. If you, here's our thing, our body is an adaptation machine, right?

So if you are just not really paying attention, but consistently eat about 2000 calories, then all of a sudden you decide you're going to go on this cut and you go from 2000 to 1000, which is a big cut, which is a fast, we consider a fast cut. Because in the first week, you will see fast results. Fast results. Somebody who cuts a thousand calories every single day in seven days is gonna see more results than the person who cut 250 calories every single day, right?

But what ends up happening is within two weeks that person who's cutting a thousand calories hits a hard wall, right? And no longer do they start to end. And then again, we're talking about, you know, arbitrary numbers right now. That could be three weeks for one person. It could be 10 days for another person. But in general, they're going to hit a wall relatively soon when they do a

drastic cut like that. Then they hit that wall. And there are other words, their metabolism has now slowed down. It has become and what what happens is the cow. The body becomes efficient at using only those calories and doing the same activity. If you exceed it just by the least amount, your body is going to be affected by it. Versus somebody, it's the tortoise in the hair.

It's the tortoise in the hair type of deal. At first, of course, the hair takes off and everybody thinks it's going to win, but it's the slow and steady tortoise that ends up passing up the hair down the way. So from a physical standpoint, slowers better because like Adam's saying, you don't want the body to adapt too quickly to these lower calories, but also when you take a slower approach, you can also focus on building muscle throughout this process. If I'm just trying to lose weight right now, I'm not going to give myself time to maybe focus on getting stronger and increasing performance or improving performance in the gym, which we know if you get stronger and you focus on building muscle, you will do the opposite

of slow-gaming metabolism down, you'll actually speed it up, and that takes a little longer than just cutting calories. But there's also another component that we're totally missing here with this which is the psychological component when you're telling someone to lose 30 or 40 pounds what you're really telling you to do is to have a pretty drastic lifestyle change really I mean you're asking someone to lose you know a quarter of their body weight or one six to their body weight That's going to require we change that's an excellent point. We got to change quite a bit and way, that's going to require we change. That's an excellent point. We got to change quite a bit and it's very difficult to have any long term lasting changes when you throw 15 changes all at once. You know, if I'm right out the gates, it's like, okay, you're not

exercising, you're eating really crappy food, you're going to exercise every day, you're going to eat under these parameters, you're just specific macros. You might be very motivated at first, but it might be too much at once, and it may lead to you falling off, versus doing one step at a time, getting that one step to become a part of your life to where it becomes integrated into your life, and then moving to the next step,

and then moving to the next step. And it gives you room to fall back a little bit and come forward, because what happens typically when people fall back is they throw it all out. So if I tell someone, work out five days a week, plus cardio, plus do all this, you know, the stuff with food and they're super motivated. When they throw one of them out,

the tendencies to throw all of it out, like, well, fuck, if I missed the workout, I'm not even gonna worry about my food today. I'm just gonna do whatever. But if it's one step at a time, then we can play with that step until it becomes. You know what? One of the interviews we did this past week, I can't remember who it was, but they asked us a question similar to this, and they actually had a name or a term for something for the way that we actually coach and teach people. And what that was was, even

though your goal is weight loss, the first thing that I do with your diet is actually add to the diet, which seems counterproductive to what you're trying to do. But most people that have got themselves in this situation are underfeeding some some accrucial nutrients that their body needs. For example, almost every diet that I ever look at, when I look at a diet is someone is under consuming fiber, they're over consuming carbohydrates, they're not enough vegetables, not enough vegetables, not enough good healthy fats.

And so what we do is we normally look at the diet and maybe exchange some of the things that they were, the choices they were making with better healthier choices and actually more things So they actually end up getting kind of a surplus at the beginning Well, we start subtracting and really it's it's it's funny because I love that approach because it's not Take away. It's an ad and Like one of the easiest things you could do is you could tell someone okay first thing we're gonna do with your diet

I'm not gonna tell you to cut anything out, but you I want you to eat three servings of leafy green vegetables every day. Right. And just naturally see what happens. Yeah, and just see what happens. Now, I don't fit the rest of the shit in with that. Right. Now, the first thing that's going to happen is when they add those three servings of vegetables, is they're going to feel good because now they've got all these nutrients that I didn't

have before and all this fiber. The second thing that's going to happen is when they know that they need to eat those, they tend to prioritize them. So, okay, coach says I need to eat three servings of vegetables. So, I'm going to start, you know, breakfast, lunch, and dinner with these vegetables. You're probably going to eat less of the other stuff as well as a result. But even if you don't do that, it's easier to add than it is to take away, and that's a good starting point. But I guess the short answer to this is slow. Go slow, take your time. Do one thing at a time, it is a lifestyle change. Speed up your metabolism before you decide to cut calories.

Get stronger, make the cornerstone of your routine around strength. And as far as nutrition is concerned, one step at a time because you want to lose it once. That's what I always tell my clients. How many times you want to lose this weight? And they always answer just one time. So, okay, let's do it the right way

because otherwise you're gonna be losing it for the rest of your life. Hmm. All right, next up is Fit M28. Is it true that you need to warm up your body with cardio before lifting? Ooh, that's funny. Ooh, warm up for what?

You know, what's the difference with this talking about warming up? Well, this is what motivated. If you've been around for a long time, this was kind of a popular question a long time ago, and almost everything, well actually everything that we've created was a response to the audience, right? We get a lot of people that asked about CrossFit and that, what if I like that way of training so outcomes performance, a lot of people that asked about CrossFit and that, what if I like that

way of training, so outcomes performance, a lot of people that love bodybuilding and we're like, okay, well, how would you do it? Okay, well here comes Maps Black. Well, a lot of people know that, okay, I've been told that warming up the body and getting ready to, I've heard that's so important, is it best to just get on a new cardio, and this is what really inspired Maps Prime. Yeah, you see, I mean, you still see a lot of programs that we'll just have you run laps and all that stuff, just to get the body sort of moving and get, you know, blood flow and get heart rate up

to a certain degree, but so that's really the extent of what has been in our industry. He's being sort of, you know, sent out is like that's important but that's as much thought process that's gone into it. So with warming up, the concept of warming up and the idea behind it, even if you ask people today, you say, okay, why do you warm up? What's important about a warm up? And everybody's going to answer the same way.

Most people will. It's to prevent injury, which I think is hilarious. Okay. It'd be like me buying a car and the most the only thing I'm looking at is is this car going to explode? No, cool. I got it. I want to get the car that doesn't explode. The very least that a warm up should do for your body is prevent injury. That's the least. It better fucking do that. But there's a lot more that a warm up can do. A lot more. It can actually take your workout, if you do it right, whatever your workout is, if you go into the gym

and you're doing squats and overhead presses and some farmer walks and you're in a supercharger. You're going to maximize that workout by priming your body to fire its muscles in the right order and the right way to send the right signal that you're trying to send when you're working out to give you so that you can jump in your workout and create the best recruitment patterns that you can create. There's so much that a warm-up can do that is beyond preventing injury.

That's like the absolute minimum. It's the difference and I was trying to find your analogy there. I got a better one. It's like going to play around a golf. What does everybody do before they play around a golf? You get there a half hour to an hour early. You go through the mechanics. You go through all the mechanics. You drive, you know, you go hit, we normally hit about 100 balls,

and then we go put another 50 or so. And if you're good, you also get in the wedge, you get in the potting, putting you get all that yeah, right? So and then you go out and then you play around now Can you go play around and not do that? Yeah, absolutely Do you think you're gonna make a play a lot better if you go and actually prime the mechanics of the actual what movement? Well, you know why yeah, cuz I mean that's looked at as a skill, right? Like golf is already thought of as like, this is like a very like very specialized skill. Which blows my mind, we don't look at that. It's just like that.

It's just like that at all. And anybody who's ever performed a deadlift in overhead press, a squat, these movements are a fucking skill. It's the reason why most people for the very first time they cannot just get under a bar and perform it correctly, because it's a skill, and when you start to treat it like a skill, it will actually give you more back in return.

If you just treat it as exercise, and this is just moving and burning calories, too many people think of weightlifting, like moving around and just burning. Like if that's all you're using exercise for, then we'll quit wasting your time and with a gym membership. Just go around and run around and wave your arms and flap it around and just burning. Like if that's all, if that's all you're using exercise for, then we'll quit wasting your time with a gym membership. Just go around and around and wave your arms and flap it around and jump up and down

and just move for an hour and you're right. That will burn calories and that's one way, I guess, of exercising, but if you're gonna go lift weights, you wanna treat it like a skill and you wanna get really good at it because the better you get at it, the more return you're gonna get from it, the more muscle you will build, the more fat you will, and then the more time it takes to get really good at it because the better you get at it, the more return you're gonna get from it, the more muscle you will build, the more fat you will,

and then a more time it takes to get there. And like Sal said, the least thing that you're gonna get from the buy product is you won't get injured, right? So that's like a duh from it. So let me give you a good example of what a, and it's a very specific one of what a good warm up or as we call it priming session would look like for someone who is going to go do workout their chest.

Let's say someone's gonna work out their chest and they've got really bad forward shoulder. Well, let's not even say really bad forward shoulder. Let's just tell everybody that almost everybody, okay, we're talking 80 plus percent of the human population have upper cross syndrome. Right, so you've got bad forward shoulder. Everybody.

So the way I may prime myself or this person before a bench press or whatever, is I'll make sure that the muscles that stabilize the shoulder region, that stabilize the scapulae, that retract them and depress them, that's pull them back and down are active. They're activated and they're ready to fire. I'll also make sure that this individual,

if they have tight pecs, that we've loosened them up a little bit. Now, I'm not gonna statically stretch them, but I may do some dynamic stretches for the chest, so we can get a good full range of motion, and so it doesn't pull the shoulders forward even further and cause problems in those shoulders. Same thing with if I have a client who's gonna go do squats and let's say she just she her glutes just don't fire.

Well, let's let's let's stick let's stick to the chest like you're saying and keep going this direction and deeper and why this is so important. So Sal is addressing up across syndrome, which is the rounded shoulders and the forward head that everybody pretty much suffers from. It's just a matter of how much you suffer from it. So if you don't warm up properly or prime the body, you get under, sure, you can bench press, but when you do bench press, you're deltoid, so your shoulders and your triceps are probably taking over a little bit more to dominate. And those that are listening to this right now, this is you. If you're somebody who bench presses and you're taking, and those that are listening this right now, this is you. If you're somebody who bench presses and you're like, man, I just never really fill it in my chest

or my chest never really gets sore, but you're, you feel it and you're not fully retracted. Right. You fill it in your arms. This is why it's because if you just do a movement, even if it looks like the movement is proper, but your body is at a position mechanically, then what ends up happening is the secondary muscles take over, carry the load, and you're not activating

the prime mover. Right. And sometimes I mean, this doesn't even corrective work, and it's going to take an X amount of time to really solidify that position, even to sustain it for an amount of time. But once you get to that point, now you have to like coach your body consistently. Like, here's the position that's ideal. Here's the, here's what I want out of this. And so that's where the prime, the warmup comes into play

where we need to reiterate that point to your body and to, you know, your command center to operate that way going into the lift. Right. And I wanna add something, because you said like, if you don't feel in your chest, you may feel it, you may even feel it in your chest. Right, you're right.

You may get sore in your chest, but you also may be creating a pattern in your upper body or enforcing a pattern that is not optimal, that will promote injury and problems in the future. And that goes back to like the golf swing analogy. You could still hit the ball, just because you're hitting the ball. And it's going in front of you. It doesn't necessarily.

You're hitting the ball correctly. Like you want you and you could be creating bad habits, bad patterns. Anybody that understands golf knows this knows that if you have this, this awful swing just because you're hitting the ball doesn't necessarily mean you're hitting the ball optimally. And eventually that catches up to you. It will keep you from going to the next level in that sport. Well, the same thing goes for exercise.

Yes, you can get through the exercises. Yes, you could feel it in your chest, but if you want the optimal or the most ideal results from that movement, then learning how to do it mechanically. And so this was the real magic behind prime is that we in within prime, there is a at home test that each person takes. And it will definitely tell you what areas you need the most work put in before you go to work out so that you get the best out of all of your exercises. So it's very individualized. It's not like, oh, here's the movements because we've had people ask for. We'll let it be individualized. Yeah.

You're a priming session or you'll warm up, should be based on your individual body. That's it. I mean, it has to be based on your individual body because what Adam may do with his priming session before his workout, maybe perfect for him, but maybe the exact opposite of what Justin needs to do before his workout. We all have different limb lengths. We all have different variables. You know, we've all had different sleeping patterns.

You know, different to stress. Like, there's just like way too many factors that people have to realize. It's so individualized, that's the difficulty we face as trainers and coaches that we're trying to tackle this, but how do we tackle this and make it simple? That was our best answer to it. And that's literally like what we came up with that Seems to be working very well if you put the effort into it. You have to learn this yourself I'll end it with this Priming or warming up should be

Party of workout every single time. It should not be a disposable party of workouts, just as important as the workout. Next question is from Deller Zach O2. Your thoughts on how low calorie, healthy foods, like halotop affect a person's relationship with food. Yeah, that's a good question. This is a good question. This reminds me of that conversation we had with the...

No foods guys. No foods guys. No foods guys. So, so he, this person is referring to, and he put healthy in quotes, you know, foods that are in that health market, but that are designed and engineered to taste really good. Yeah, so like, you know, if you like pizza, try our pizza, which tastes the same,

but it's got, you know, less calories, less carbs, that's fat, whatever, or, you know, try a halo the same, but it's got less calories, less carbs, less fat, whatever, or try a halo-type ice cream because it's got less calorie, less sugar there. There's really two different positions that we can take on this. Well, I think they're both valid. I think there's two positions that are very valid. Are they better options than their unhealthy counterparts? They could be.

And I'm being general here because there's some of these, these quote unquote healthy foods which are worse depending on where your awareness is and your psychology, right? Like you can be like diet coke is better than regular coke. Maybe, maybe not depending on the context. But let's say something genuinely is made with decent ingredients and it just tastes really good.

Is it a better alternative? In the short term, I think it is. Obviously, if you're eating regular ice cream and then you go to another type of ice cream that's, you know, it's got healthier ingredients, lower calories and stuff like that, it could be good. But it could also be bad because it doesn't handle the root of what's going on where you're seeking out

these highly palatable foods for comfort, for stress, or for whatever. The other thing you want to consider is when foods are engineered to be super, super, super palatable or super tasty. They say, really easy to become addicted to. And you overeat. You know, you'll tend to overeat them. I mean, I would, I'd get protein bars that taste super good and I'd eat a fuck ton of

them. And because they're protein bars, right? good, and I need a fuck ton of them. And because they're protein bars, right? Well, this was the debate that I kind of got into it with this guy who is building a very large company that is targeting this market. So I said, well, here's the problem I have with these quote unquote healthy foods, is because they're lower calorie and considered healthy, I tend to

justify eating them more often. And in reality, none of them are really that beneficial for my body. So that's, and that's the attitude you got to kind of look at is like, yeah, man, halo. I mean, if you were, if I had, if it just happened to be Friday night and Katrina and I are sitting down to watch a movie and I'm just like, I've been really dialed in on my diet. I'm like, you know what, man, I just, I just want that, that taste of ice cream. I haven't had it a long time. Either one, I'll go get the, uh, you know, frozen yogurt version of whatever flavor I'm feeling like, or maybe I did something like Halo, and then I have it that night, and then I feel like I satisfy the quote unquote craving that I'm having at the time, and then

I move along my day and go on. But what I've seen, at least in the bodybuilding world, since I'm very familiar with the people that are promoting these types of foods, is they get refrigerators full of this stuff. And then it becomes a very regular thing in their diet because they're still not addressing the addiction issue that they have for this food because it's a- You can abuse these foods just like you can abuse any other food.

Right. And arguably it's easier to, because they want it's justified. And then two, they're engineered for you to become a titan. Stop the cravings attached to it. That hasn't even been addressed. Really, so when you look at this healthy food category, you have the highly engineered,

super processed healthy food stuff. Then you have healthy foods that are just alternatives that are not in that same category. For example, you may like pasta. Well, maybe I'll have some, what is it when they, when you just spaghetti squash. Maybe I'll do spaghetti squash and then put sauce and that, that's what I mean. That, to me, it is a much better.

Now, it's not, it doesn't taste like pasta. Right. But it's healthy, it's lower calorie. It may be better. It's real food. It's real food, it may be better for me. So because a lot of these healthy foods tend to be low sugar, low carbohydrate, low sugar, low fat, or whatever, but then in order to make them taste the way they do, they pack

them full of chemicals and stuff. You know, how do you get something low fat that gives you that same mouth feel? Well, they may need to put some kind of synthetic chemicals Whatever give the same mouth feel or how do I get something sweet without putting sugar in it because I'm trying to make a product That's low sugar. Well, let's use Asperger tamer circlehouse So that's the other thing you want to be careful for and lastly the when we engineer foods to Taste in the you know In these highly palatable ways

with these combinations of taste and flavors and colors that we would never encounter in nature. Your brain is still perceiving these tastes and there's still something going on. So if I taste something that even has no calories in it, but it's super sweet and tasty, I'm still segmenting a signal to my brain that says super sweet and tasty.

And I may still have similar effects in terms of the neurochemicals and the emotional connections to these types of foods. So I do think they're a stepping stone. I do. I just don't think it's a place that you stay. That's how I look at it. It's like a stepping stone

because if you, the argument to promote something like this and I can get behind this is, let's say someone like me, who was very much so addicted to ice cream for many, many years, I had a Ben and Jerry's or the Safeway brand or whatever of them, like fucking pint of ice cream, every single night of my life, like every single night of my life. You made a whole, yeah, every night.

The pint is this one, yeah, yeah, it's like 1500 calories, 1500 to 2000 calories of ice cream. Every single night, every single night the plane is this way yeah, yeah, it's like 1500 calories 1500 to 2000 calories of ice cream every single night Every single night. What was your flavor? Oh, man. I ate it all did I meant ship mint ship. Yeah, meant ship and chocolate chip. I'm pretty basic when it comes to my favorite flavors But I'll have everything. I mean, so it would you just sit down in front of the TV and just crush it? Yeah, no It was very much so routine in my life where I had, and again, and you break that. So it's doing it that long. So this is a really good question

and this is why I can get behind this and I could still argue and debate the positive side of this. I did start, I had Halo. I definitely have had this. So you went from regular to Halo. Right, or Frozen Yogurt or something. Another option first. I actually went from ice cream to gelato to frozen

yogurt to halo to coconut, cocoa whip to not really needing it at all. And we're talking about a long process here for me. So we're talking about somebody who had ice cream every single day of his life for probably 10 plus years. And that's not exaggeration for those that are wondering like that's, I couldn't gain weight my whole life. Like I just, and so 2000 calories, ice cream was no fucking big deal. If anything, you were like, this is awesome. Right.

I need more calories, I'll just eat ice cream. Right, right, totally. So this is definitely something that I had to later on learn to change as far as I have it. And these types of foods did help it, but I remembered that, and I think that's the true takeaway from this is that, totally, I mean, I think all of our thoughts on this,

I think it's a better choice than that, but don't stop there. Don't stop there. It's still not the most ideal thing that my body could have right now, and you need to understand that. You need to understand that. I'm really thing that my body could have right now. And you need to understand that. You need to understand that. I'm really not serving my body by eating this

every single night. It's like the methadone of foods. Right. It's not what a great, it's exactly what it is. Like you're replacing one thing for another. So be careful of that. Like Adam is saying, I think as a stepping stone is perfectly fine, but if you're not addressing

the root of what's going on Then you're never going to really solve anything and you may get stuck in here if you're lucky But most people end up doing this most people will replace their ice cream with halotop or whatever and then they'll just go back to ice cream after After a while because it still does And still this case and then the real the real scary part is and for me like what became my concern later on was You know here. I've got my halo top then I have my you know my protein bar my Diet coke and then my my sweetener inside my coffee then I started like really Evaluating my day and being like holy shit like I took in five different things today that were all artificially

sweetened. And with what we're seeing with artificial sweeteners, I don't think that's a great idea. Do I think it's going to kill me tomorrow? No, I do not think that. Do I think that it's such a, that's such a big deal that I need to be freaking. No, but I should be fucking aware. I should be aware enough to realize that that is probably not ideal for me. It's probably not putting myself in the best position I can and start to pay attention to that stuff and eliminate it where I can and get better at it. So I think, like South said,

it's a great stepping stone in the right direction and I totally think it's fine for somebody to utilize. But again, what I see on Instagram, which drives me crazy, is those pages where people are, you know, every other fucking post is a halo top with their, what's that Walden's, Walden's fake chocolate syrup and the Walden's fake cream. Skinny cow, a nice cream.

Yeah, I mean, you know, you're trying to lose weight, but you're also trying to be healthy. So, you know, consider that. And, you know, and this is gonna go, this is down the line. So I'm gonna go like, kind of when you get down the line of, you know, working on your nutrition, your fitness, and you're moving down the, down the list, you'll also start to realize that these highly palatable foods just make it harder

for you to eat healthy in the sense that when I eat foods that are super tasty because they've been engineered that way, even if they're healthy-ish, and they fit, you know, with what I'm eating, they tend to make me want to eat more, because that's what they do, that's what they're designed for. So at some point, it's way easier for me to eat the amount I'm supposed to eat when I avoid all foods that are designed this way.

When I cook my foods and when I have, you know, things that are natural, it just makes it harder to overeat. So consider that as well. Next up is healthy, happy, and free. Do you miss anything about personal training? She does ask or it's a girl, right? I think so. She asks very good questions.

Yeah, so we tend to pick some. So it happens. All right. So yes, I do. I miss what I miss most about personal training are the people ace the train. Yeah, the conversations. Yeah, it's I had when I left or when I sold my studio and then we did this full time,

the clients that I had with me who I don't know how many clients I had probably drawn 20. They they had all been with me for an average of if you took them all and just averaged out six or seven years. Some of them were with me for 12 years where they came in the same time, same time during the week, every week for 12 years consistently. Like I saw these people and it was a dedicated hour of spending time with that person.

I don't spend a dedicated hour with a lot of people that I know in my life, like I did with some of these people on a weekly basis. So you develop these relationships with people, and I miss them. I definitely do. The good thing is my girlfriend trains a lot of them now, and my old studio is still there.

So if I want, I can pop in and I have a couple of times and said hi to people, but I really missed that. I really missed that time where we're working out together, we're connecting, we're talking about issues, whatever. I missed learning from them. I learned so much from the people that I trained. Everything from professionally, I had clients that were extremely successful,

so they would teach me things to You know stuff about the human body. I would train doctors and surgeons and I'd learn about medicine I'd ask them questions all the time. They love talking about it to life lessons You know one of my the oldest client I had or the one that stayed with me the longest her name is Carol she She was you know she's in her seventies and you know, she's in her 70s. And, you know, if I had questions about raising my kids or I needed advice on relationships or whatever, like she was just an excellent person to talk to and ask questions and she would give me great feedback

and I really respected it. So, nothing, I don't miss anything more than the actual people themselves. I think, yeah, I would definitely agree with all of that. I mean, that's the first thing I think about is all the conversations, the deep conversations that's the first thing I think about is all the conversations, the deep conversations, just the life you experienced together.

Like I've had clients where, I mean, they can remember when I was single, I was coming back from Chicago and the first time I met Courtney, who became my wife, they went to grad school, then after that, they actually got their PhD, like things like that, where it's like, we did a lot of like monumental milestones in life

together. And it's crazy. It's a really deep, really cool, intimate thing that is work on top of that, which is interesting. But for me, just looking at it like, besides of that, which is interesting. But, you know, for me, just like looking at it like, you know, besides all that and looking at it just as a job, like, what I do miss about it is, like, it was simple. Like, it became to a point where, like, I see them and I'm like, cool, I get to like, you know, structure this, this around what I know they're capable of and kind of challenge them a little bit,

but like, that was the extent. There wasn't all this extra, um, yeah, just this uncertainty, you know, like all these different, like, projects and things and like bombardment of, um, you know, where we're at today, which is also really cool, but it's totally different, right? So like, before it was more simple than which made like, going home a little bit easier, and being able to be present a lot easier, to where now, I think being present,

I feel like I'm kind of riding this crazy storm, where it's not even a storm, it's just like, I feel like lost sometimes, like walking in this huge woods somewhere, you know like where I go Where am I today? Like definitely change our business now definitely changes so much month to month Where's when you're training people a lot of things don't change no? I I don't miss anything about first. No not at all not even the slightest bit And I'll tell you why because the two main things

that I absolutely loved about personal training, which is very similar to what you guys were saying, I love the growth that I got because of the people that I was great to train these CEOs and psychologists, therapists and doctors and lawyers and just men. It was like just this plethora of knowledge that I would get every single day talking to these great minds

and getting to know them and building relationships. And then the other piece that I've just fucking loved was changing someone's life, was to make an impact on them that forever changed them. Like that was so rewarding, but I tell you, this business shits on those two things. It shits on it.

Like, well, obviously here, well, here's the thing. Like, if we look at just those two things for me, that motivated me and excited me, the growth, right? The amount of knowledge that I would, this weekend, just the people that I was around and the people I got to converse with and mingle with and build relationships with, it was more information, more knowledge, more growth packed in that weekend than a year's worth of personal training clients. It's like super speed. Right, and then every time we turn these mics on,

you know, I have right now, and I apologize for those that have left me DMs on my Instagram or emails. I can't even get to all the people that are just thanking us for the information and how much we've impacted and changed their lives. So, the level of rewarding, how rewarding it is because of how many people were impacting and changing. Again, shits on personal training. I couldn't touch as many people as we're touching right now. So there's not a day that goes by that I go like, man, I kind of missed a good old day.

It's where I used to get up at five o'clock in the morning and train eight people and then take a little hour nap and come back and train another four or five people. What about the clients, like the people you made contacts with? Well, you missed, do you ever miss them? I still stay in contact with them. I mean, I pride myself on being the relationship guy I stay in touch and touch a lot of lives and people that I've been around and I and I try and I think that's the big that's the big one right is that you you train these

people for so long and then you don't see them as much or well yeah even if you're in contact with them it's still not the I mean even them like so I I probably talk more to the leaders that I develop that are out there touching the lives of clients more than I actually talked to the clients because I get again, I get selfishly, I get more out of that personally. I like, I'll still meet a trainer that I hired 15 years ago and is still in the industry and running his own business or has his own gym and I'll meet and have lunch with him or her and sit down and spend a meet and have lunch with him or her

and sit down and spend a couple hours of just catching up and giving advice and just be it been in their air and letting them been mine and I love that and I still get to feel that desire and need that I had for when I'm back in the training days. So yeah man, I don't I don't miss it at all in the slightest bit and I'll fucking love what we're doing I had a few clients that You know, I trained where I trained them before they got married Then they got married then they got pregnant Mm-hmm, and they had the baby then they would come into the gym. I actually had three clients like this

They'd come into the gym with the baby and I would hold their baby While they would do sets because I should tell, because I own the place, right? So I said tell them, because they'd be like, oh, I don't know if I can keep coming in because I have the baby. I'd be like, bring the baby here and it's a private studio. So we'll make it happen. And you guys know me, I love kids.

So if you're gonna bring a kid in my gym, a baby, you've basically got the best personal trainer slash baby center combo on the planet. So I'd play with the kids, I'd set up obstacles for the kids while they'd work out or if they were really young, you know, my client Don who I worked with years ago, her daughter Kenzie, she would sit in her little carrier and she'd cry and I'd swing her or I'd feed her while she was working out. And I do miss the kids because, kids, because I'm in contact with them

and I ran into the other day, I actually ran into Don and Kenzie the other day and she's so big now. And kids, you know, kids change so quickly. And it got me a little emotional because I saw her and I'm like, man, I haven't seen you in a couple of years and you've changed so much in a couple of years

like what's all you are? And I told her, I'm like, I used to swing you in the carrier when your mom was working out and feed you and all that stuff. And, you know, when I go back to it, no. It's just this magic. I mean, I used to swing you in the carrier when your mom was working out and feed you and all that stuff. And, you know, when I go back to it, no. It's just this magic. I mean, yes.

And that's how I feel too. It's like, like I said, when you trace it back to like all the life you spent with these people, it's like, you know, it is. Like it's something that you reflect on with good feelings, but at the same time, like I get where Adam's coming from. I don't like look at, oh man, like things were simple and life was,

like I'm a growth person. I was always seeking that, even when I was training people, I was thinking about like projects or these other ideas I had that I always wanted to pursue. And it's like now we're in a position where we're pursuing it. And it's like, it's going to kind of level out to a point where we have the systems like solidified and I won't feel so like I'm running around like aimlessly,

which I'm really excited about. Then we'll have another project. Yeah, yeah, we will. I'll add on a fire to that for sure. Yeah, did you guys towards the end of your careers, be honest, because I'll tell you straight up, the last, I don't know, few years of training people and owning my studio, I was really bored.

Oh, totally. And it was, it was, it was, I was dead inside. I was, I was unstimulated for a long time leading up to it because, you know And you're so much you can do within it, but man the last couple years were Straight up like I didn't hate it because I love the clients So we did come in and be like hey, what's up John? Whatever, but it was so fucking boring. Yeah for me Towards the last towards the end there that I know I wasn't as good of a trainer as I could have been Totally because I was just so un stimulated. I'm I only truly lasted 20 months

20 months in the position of training clients and I was over it. I was already over being a slave to everybody else's schedule and I had already felt like I had got the great like excitement of what it was like to change a life and help people that I had already felt like I had got the great excitement of what it was like to change alive and help people that I had already moved on to developing other leaders. Like that really motivated me more. Like, if someone asked me that question, there's anything I miss that's connected to what I used to do was the other leaders like that I loved. I love to take other guys and girls

that you knew were gonna go on to lead, potentially hundreds, maybe even thousands of people one day and know that I had the ability to impact them for the good. That, to me. And now that opportunity's presented itself again with our train, the trainers, and really diving into that. Or even just our staff grows.

There's staff, yeah, all that. But all that is gonna come back, which is great. I love that. Absolutely. Check it out. Go to YouTube, subscribe to Mind Pump TV. We post a new video every single day. In fact, the one we post that today is crazy.

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