Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 668: Carb Cycling for Fat Loss, Combating the Fear of Getting Bulky (or Losing Muscle), Net Neutrality & MORE

Episode Date: December 22, 2017

Kimera-Quah! In this episode of Quah, sponsored by Kimera Koffee (kimerakoffee.com, code "mindpump" for 10% off), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about women who build muscle too easily, what is better for fat loss... carb cycling or intermittent fasting, net neutrality and if children innately know how to listen to their body with respect to eating. Spoiler alert (4:16) Jim Carrey goes full Kaufman (7:11) Sal's vertigo is back (12:57) Health IQ scores (18:03) Organifi Gold search continues...(20:17) Sal the supplement whore? / Cannabis discussion (21:00) Companies trying to outdo themselves Too much of anything is a sign of overconsumption Adam's vivid dream (27:15) Sal’s traffic ticket problem and insurance fees (34:00) Quah question #1 – Women who build muscle too easily, true or false? (44:23) Quah question #2 – What is better for fat loss, carb cycling or intermittent fasting? (1:01:00) Quah question #3 – Thoughts on how the FCC now regulates net neutrality? (1:09:47) Quah question #4 – Do you think when we were children we innately knew how to listen to our bodies with respect to eating? (1:22:19) Related Links/Products Mentioned: Dark | Netflix Official Site Jim & Andy: The Great Beyond Kimera Koffee Use coupon code "mndpump" for 20% off Method acting Is There a Link Between Intelligence and Mental Illness? Benign paroxysmal positional vertigo (BPPV) Epley Maneuver and other Home Remedies for Vertigo Health IQ (Take the free quiz!) Organifi (Official Mind Pump sponsor) Use the code “mindpump” for 20% off The Weed-Induced Disease That Makes You Throw Up and Take Scientists find that missing just one night's sleep can have a huge impact for you The 30 Most Disturbing Human Experiments in History Uber: Which countries have banned the controversial taxi app Five-day fasting diet could fight disease, slow aging How to Use Fasting to Build Muscle, Lose Fat and Improve Health (MPTv – YouTube) Mind Pump on Protein Cycling & Carbs in Context (YouTube) Net neutrality F.C.C. Repeals Net Neutrality Rules Facebook's Giant Internet-Beaming Drone Finally Takes Flight Trabant Baby's Palate, Food Memories Shaped Before Birth People Mentioned: Jim Carrey (@JimCarrey) Twitter Andy Kaufman Shanna Mota (@shannamota)  Instagram Craig Capurso (@craigcapurso)  Instagram Valter Longo Layne Norton, PhD (@biolayne)  Instagram Would you like to be coached by Sal, Adam & Justin? You can get 30 days of virtual coaching from them for FREE at www.mindpumpmedia.com. Get our newest program, MAPS Prime Pro, which shows you how to self assess and correct muscle recruitment patterns that cause pain and impede performance and gains. Get it at www.mindpumpmedia.com! Get MAPS Prime, MAPS Anywhere, MAPS Anabolic, MAPS Performance, MAPS Aesthetic, the Butt Builder Blueprint, the Sexy Athlete Mod AND KB4A (The MAPS Super Bundle) packaged together at a substantial DISCOUNT at www.mindpumpmedia.com. Make EVERY workout better with MAPS Prime, the only pre-workout you need… it is now available at mindpumpmedia.com Have Sal, Adam & Justin personally train you via video instruction on our YouTube channel, Mind Pump TV. Be sure to Subscribe for updates. Also check out Thrive Market! Thrive Market makes purchasing organic, non-GMO affordable. With prices up to 50% off retail, Thrive Market blows away most conventional, non-organic foods. PLUS, they offer a NO RISK way to get started which includes: 1. One FREE month’s membership 2. $20 Off your first three purchases of $49 or more (That’s $60 off total!) 3. Free shipping on orders of $49 or more Get your Kimera Koffee at www.kimerakoffee.com, code "mindpump" for 10% off! Get Organifi, certified organic greens, protein, probiotics, etc at www.organifi.com Use the code “mindpump” for 20% off. Go to foursigmatic.com/mindpump and use the discount code “mindpump” for 15% off of your first order of health & energy boosting mushroom products. Add to the incredible brain enhancing effect of Kimera Koffee with www.brain.fm/mindpump 10 Free sessions! Music for the brain for incredible focus, sleep and naps! Also includes 20% if you purchase! Please subscribe, rate and review this show! Each week our favorite reviewers are announced on the show and sent Mind Pump T-shirts! Have questions for Mind Pump? Each Monday on Instagram (@mindpumpmedia) look for the QUAH post and input your question there. (Sal, Adam & Justin will answer as many questions as they can)

If you want to pump your body and expand your Piss some people. Do our fun conversation. Finally, it's been a while. We talk about my Star Wars spoiler. You dick. Dun dun dun. No. Luke is, No, don't, Darth Vader's son.

Yeah, yeah. Breaking news. We talk about Jim Carey and artists in general, how tormented they are and how we like them tormented because it made the best start that way. They're the best. We talk about my experience with Vertigo the other day, fucking sucked. We talk about the health IQ quiz that we took.

Look, we recommend you go to healthiq.com, forward slash mind pump, take the quiz, see if you could beat my score of 186. I think Adam scored 186 also. Justin hasn't taken it yet, he's afraid. I got called out, but you will soon. I'm on it right now. We mentioned Organifies Gold Juice again, which I've tried, they still haven't tried.

Come on, shout out. They are one of our sponsors. I'm living in the green. So if you go to OrganifyShop.com, forward slash Mind Pump, you will get a discount. We also talk about my supplement addiction. Really? Is it an addiction?

I don't know. It's more of a, yeah. It's a thing I've seen it. I suppose. Then we talked about cannabis addiction. Adam's dream interpretation. We think he's in love with Doug. We talk about sleep deprivation, driving citations,

and my old crazy insurance premiums. Then we get into the questions. This individual is saying that she's constantly being told that lifting weights won't make women bulky, but she just looks at a weight and she puts on tons of muscle. Is she an exception to the rule? Is she a genetic freak?

Congratulations. Or is she just freaking out? Next question is, what are our thoughts on carb cycling for fat loss in comparison to intermittent fasting and maintaining consistent daily intake? What are our thoughts on these things comparing them? Do we think intermittent fasting should be used for fat loss? Do we like carb cycling?

Find out in this episode. Then we get to a controversial one. No, boy. We give out our opinions on net, new, trailty, we pull no punches. We try to inform you guys with what we think is the truth. Enjoy that part of the episode. The fair police will love this.

Then we get into the final question. Do we think that when we're children, we automatically know how to eat intuitively, but then life fucks everything up. There's some truth to that. You'll find out in this episode. Also, we're in December. That means next month is January.

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Did you watch dark oh you did is great? You know I had to watch it though in German with subtitles. I did watch one episode. Yeah, why the why is it in German with subtitles. I did watch one episode. Yeah. Why is it in German? What do they do? It's an international film show. It's a German film. Yeah, but they're Netflix. Yeah, but you could do, yeah, you could. Yeah, Netflix bought it.

You can listen to it in English. Yeah, I did. Yeah, or you could listen to it with. I don't like that. I'm gonna do subtitles. I don't know there was an option. I don't know there was an option to do subtitles. Yeah, you could do it.

You could do an option. I hate watching dubbed films, because we're spoiled. First of all, we're American, right? So everything we see in English, in Europe, they see lots of dubbed films. But I hate dubbed films because they don't always translate. They never translate. It never, well, it never matches.

It doesn't line up. Yeah, it never matches the people doing the voices, never match the personality. It's not just that. It doesn't, it doesn't match the acting. It's like, it's like a skinny little blonde girl. And I'm like, I know that's a big fat black guy. That's fucking talking to us. It's just, it's just work, man. It doesn't match the acting. It's like a skinny little blonde girl, and I'm like, I know that's a big fat black guy, that's fucking talking to me.

It's just, it's just work, man. It doesn't work for me. It's like, hey, man. And there's a delay, right? So there's that delay, too. It just doesn't match the acting, but anyway, it was cool as one episode. I'm sure I have to watch more than one.

The second one got me hooked. Okay, I'll watch the second one. So I'm on four or five now, and it's really just really starting to pick up. My boy told me he's like, dude, wait till you get to have five episodes deep. Because there's the story is so big and there's so many legs to it. I'm like, after episode one, I was like, what the fuck? Episode two, I'm like, now who's that?

And I'm trying to put together like, who's married to who? I know. He's banging her. Yeah, there's a lot of there's a lot of there's a lot of working moving parts. I was just cave So I watched one episode the first one which was pretty fascinating and then I went and got the midnight showing of Star Wars you too, so you guys do Spoiler alert. Why did you call me dude spoiler alert? If you if you don't want a spoiler play your ears Everybody dies fucking princess Le, trip of this. Princess Leia, Darth Vader's daughter.

Shut up. Darth Vader's daughter. She's Darth Vader. We already knew that assholes. Oh, we did. Yeah. Oh, you missed that. Oh, my bad.

Earlier ones. My bad. Yeah. Can you believe what happened Yoda? I'm so angry about this dude. I don't know. I seriously have to wait till Saturn and watch. Fuck. Well, you know, I'm surprised you actually just didn't pony up and get another ticket

and go early and then fucking dude, I have kids and like, you know, I can't just, boo, I'm just gonna go. Yeah, I'm so free. Yeah, like I can't do that. Like I really want to do that. Adam sometimes forgets that you can't just decide to do something. No, I don't. I'm going, bro. See ya. You guys never fail to do that. Adam sometimes forgets that you can't just decide to do something. I don't know. I'm going bro. See ya.

You guys never fail to remind me all the perks I'm having. Yeah, you're free. Sorry, I get it. Sorry Katrina. We're the reason why I had to have kids. Right, what he thinks about it, right? When he's like, no, I might have one. He has a conversation with me in Justin. Yeah. Oh wait. Oh, oh, quiet time is when you go poop. That's the only time it's quiet. Dude, can we fix the fucking AC or heater in here

or whatever is going on? Definitely not the AC. Dude, it's a, so I never cold. So you're not and you are this time. So here's what's crazy. Two things. Ice box. I came in this morning, hella early, right?

Two things, I saw a penguin. There was a penguin in here. You did. Yep. So that I'm like this morning, Hela Early, right? Two things, I saw a penguin. There was a penguin in here. Yep, yep. So that, I'm like, well. It was a polar bear, it's probably just me. I'm like, it's fucking cold, there's a penguin in here. And then, no, all joking aside, this is how cold it got in the studio.

You could breathe, you're talking, you could see your breath. It's not supposed to be like that indoors. Super cold, you know you said penguin, just reminded me of Jim Carrey. Did you guys watch the Netflix thing of Jim Carrey? Did you know, oh, you haven't seen that? Uh-huh. Oh, fuck.

I thought, I thought you told me to carry. I told you to watch it, but I haven't seen it. Oh, you need to watch it. Yeah. I'm gonna watch it. I love Jim Carrey. Yeah, it's sad. Yeah.

It's really sad. So apparently he went out in the woods and ate a bunch of mushrooms and totally changed. Wait, that's not the one. Or is that different? This one he's doing, he doesn't cough men, right? Well, this one's about, no, this is about his life. Like he breaks down, like he, but it's, he doesn't get into, although it seems like a result of going and taking mushrooms and like kind of how he feels, but he doesn't say that.

Like he doesn't talk anything about psychedelics or anything like that. He just gets into like his whole life and they, who is the guy, is it Andy Kaufman with the comedian, right? That he needs people. He's the one that like purposely would do shit to just confuse everybody and like, oh my God, it's crazy. A genius, weird genius.

Yeah, he was like way too beyond everybody. They shared all the clips behind the scene of him getting ready for that film and it's fucking, he kind of loses his mind. Yeah. He loses his mind. You know, I've heard about this before. You were full-coffman.

I've heard about this before with actors were. To the point where the director, like called him and was like, you're right. Yeah, no, he was like, dude, I don't know if we can continue this film type of deal because he could, he would never get out of character. Even offset. What method is that?

That's something that the- It's a lot of method. It's called a method actor. Oh, it's called. Even offset. What method is that? That's something that the- It's called a method actor. Oh, that's what it's called. Oh, there you go. It's called a method actor. But even then, it was to the extreme. It was to the extreme where he caused people like fist fights. The guys trying to punch him on set.

It was, oh, you guys gotta watch it. It's over the top. You have to. You have to understand that artists, some of the best artists, musicians, actors, just the best artists are, the reason why they're so good, the reason why they strike a nerve and a court of people,

and they resonate with people, is because they feel everything, and they're all slightly crazy. And I don't mean that in the negative. Sometimes it can be. It's like Daniel Day Lewis. And he's the best because he'd like fully immerses himself as that person.

It lives like that person for those years. And then it just shows. This is why you have all these musicians and artists. And even before musicians made tons of money and had all access to drugs and all that stuff, even if you go back far enough, like the famous artists, you know, like Monet and all these other, you know, cutting their ears off

and doing all these weird things, it's because they feel so much that they're tormented by it. And they express it and it relieves some of this, this whatever they feel, this too much that they feel, we get to enjoy it, but they're in constant format Isn't that interesting? Have you ever met like a insanely good artist that isn't somewhat fucked up? You have to be oh, I don't know if you have to be I hate to say no, I don't know

I'm sure there is you know There's so many pretty balance and head like a good childhood and all that Well, it makes sense that you're you're gonna be at a balance somewhere else, right? Like if you are over the top talented in an area, and I think that goes for almost anything, because I feel this, even this, we're talking about like artists right now, but I think this translates even with like

your super techy smart guy, right? The guy who's like brilliant, right? Just absolutely brilliant as math teacher. All his eggs are just there. Right, exactly. Everything is there, which makes him so brilliant in this category, but then socially he's like retarded. Did you know? Saying like you can't have a conversation with somebody he gets nervous and he probably shit himself like when he just has to talk to

No really though. How many guys have you met like this that people idolize because they're they're brilliant Yeah, but then on the but then some of the most simple things that they're disconnected from well, so Anybody who's on the extreme end of the spectrum? There's a high so if you the extreme end of the spectrum, there's a high, so if you're extreme end of the spectrum with our math skills, anything on the extreme end, there's a very strong correlation with mental health issues also. So anxiety, depression, manic depression,

mania, schizophrenia, highly correlated with high intelligence. How crazy is that? Right, right. And really if you think about it this way, like if you look at human evolution, here I go again, right? If you look at human evolution, you imagine humans as this big organism. There's individuals within that, right?

But you look at this whole wide spectrum of humans. It makes sense that for the human species to propagate and to succeed, the vast majority of the individuals that make up that human species have to be average. This, the vast majority have to be average, and average means balanced, not crazy, can do a little bit of this, a little bit of that, whatever. But it also makes sense that a small percentage of them have to be extreme, because it's those extreme individuals that

break through the stretch of boundaries. Right. And everybody else has to exactly. They're the ones that are like, hey, let's get out of this cave and let's try going over that mountain, everybody's like,

you're fucking crazy. And then it benefits the whole. And many times it doesn't, but sometimes it does. Right, right, right. So it makes sense that the extremes are you're gonna see a stronger correlation for a lot of these different things.

So don't feel so bad if you feel like you're a little crazy. Maybe you're just super smart. Maybe you're just like a lightning bolt. Speaking of going crazy, not yesterday, they before. Oh God, I hate this. So you guys know what happened. I get up in the middle of the night, I go to stretch, and the in, so in the middle of the night, I go to stretch and the room starts spinning in the middle of the night.

So I fucking calm down, I lay down first, I just kinda sat there, kinda went away and I went back to sleep. Wake up in the morning and the way I wake up in the morning is my alarm goes off and I jump out of bed. It's just, I wake up like a, like a, like a, you're watch Dracula when he sits up from his coffin. That's how I wake up in the morning people

My friends used to make fun of me when I do sleepovers So I wake up and I sit up and the and the room is it feels like I'm on the playground spinning thing when you were kid Oh, I'm just like imagine like that kind of spinning. Yeah, so I sit up and I'm like Oh, God could does it. Oh, so I lay back and I'm like fuck So you know Jessica's like oh my god. What's the matter? What's the matter? I sit up and I'm like, oh, vodka does it. Oh, so I lay back and I'm like, fuck. So Jessica's like, oh my God, what's the matter? What's the matter? I'm like, the room is so, it's spinning, spinning,

so I'm laying there and I'm waiting for it to kind of calm down a little bit and it's vertigo. I've had it before. It's a benign positional something vertigo. So I've had it before, so then I'm able to, and that's in its sucks, as I couldn't come to work and I apologize about that. I finally got myself to be able to move a little bit stand up and so I started doing these

Eppley maneuvers that I learned. Well we should tell everybody too that we can't you cancel we canceled San Diego which because some people on our forum knew that we were going down to see move you Jocco and yeah my fault yeah that's also yeah if you guys were really looking for that it's all south fault. That's my fault. So that's why I'm telling the you guys were really looking forward to it, it's all south fault. Yeah, that's my fault. So, that's why I'm telling the story. It's all a story. It's just laying on real thick.

It's not because we wanted to watch Star Wars. No, admit that. Yeah, and I don't even get to go. Like, you canceled, you know, I could have scheduled that. I did a lot of ruining, I did a lot of ruining. Listen, but I did these, these, I forgive you. Eplea maneuvers, which then kind of remedy it a little bit.

And it just, I can remind you of just how lucky you are to feel good. And what it feels like, because there's people who have that all the time. Well, they'll have it for months. I couldn't imagine what a nightmare. That would drive me crazy. That's crazy.

That would drive me insane to feel like that all the time. But luckily for me, when I do the Eplea maneuvers, I end up, it takes most of it away. And then I just kind of feel like right now, I feel a little... You don't know really what causes this to happen or what? Well, so in the inner ear, the inner ear is what senses... The cochlea. ...motion, and if you're standing or upside down or whatever. And there's this fluid that floats

around on there and they're like, yeah, I think that there's these little hairs in there that detect motion, and crystals get formed in there, and I'm not sure if they get formed in everybody or just in people who get or are prone to vertigo. I believe it's in everybody, but if they get dislodged, these crystals can give you the false perception of motion.

And the Eplea maneuvers, what they do is they try to get the crystals to move in a position or in a place that doesn't cause us this. So you do these weird head positions. And you can align your shockers. Yeah, exactly. When you do it, is it instantly, you can tell a difference or is it ticked?

So mine was my left ear. So I identified it was my left ear. And what you do is I'll sit up, so I'm sitting upright, I'll look to the left, and then I'll sit a lay back real quickly. And I'll know it's my left ear because I'm looking to the left, I lay back, and then my eyes go crazy. It's the craziest thing. And if I hadn't learned this, I trained in ear, nose, and throat specialists years ago, who I had mild vertigo, and he did this for me. So that's how I knew it. Because if I didn't know this, I would have freaked out

and thought I was getting a brain tumor. So I lay back my, my eyes go back and forth like, but that was really, fucking weird and it feels terrible. You, and then you wait and it starts to calm down and then it kind of stops, then you change to the other position. So now I'm looking to the right and then I move my body to the right and then I sit up and I do this and I do it one or one to three times or whatever. And you feel a big relief in the vertigo, but then you still feel kind of uneasy. So like today I still, two days later, I still feel a little bit kind of often weird, but it was way better. Like I got way better and that whole day I was pretty bad still, but I wasn't so bad

at the point where like I couldn't walk, dude, it was really fucking so mean. That should hang you upside down. No, dude, not at all, that'd be terrible. Yeah, that'd be a horrible thing. So right now you still don't feel 100% normal. I feel like, you said like you're on a boat or something. You know when you get off a boat? Yeah. That's what I feel like.

Like I just got off a boat. Wow. So yeah, we've kind of these moments like just like a little in the background kind of crappy. Yeah, you know, it makes you want to eat more, believe it or not. Oh, it does. Yeah, because I don't know. You were eating like no carbs yesterday, huh?

So the answer to it. Yeah, so what I was doing is some people believe that stress or lack of sleep or inflammation. I'm sure inflammation in the inner air can probably contribute to it. So I'm just like, look, is what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna go keto-ish, fast, try and bring down my inflammation. I got a lot of sleep that night. I went to about 8.30 at night

and just trying to nip it in the bud so it doesn't come back. You guys see all the health IQ people? They're all our four members and stuff that are posting up their scores. Did anybody beat us? No, no one's beat us yet, but we got a couple of people get close. I saw 176 or 178 this morning.

Yeah, you're not gonna beat us. She's not gonna have them. You say that, yeah. Bring it. Go, this is what you do. Go to health IQ, what's the website, Doug? It's healthiq.com for slash mine pump. Forward slash mine pump, take their health IQ test,

and if you beat our score, me and Adam got, I think we got 186. Yeah, 186. I'm gonna double check, if it's higher than that. No, it's well, that's what I think, I'm almost positive that's what I got. You are? So, I do picture my other phone.

It's cream captured. If you beat 186, post it on Instagram and tag us. Well, post it even if you don't be. I do. I want to see everybody score. No, I'm telling them. So my health IQ is 186 out of 200, 760 points it says.

If you beat that, tag us on Instagram and that way you can talk a little shit. I don't think anyone's going to beat us though. That's the thing. My challenge is, I dare you. I dare you. There's some questions on there. I mean, going back now, I, that's the interesting. I dare you. Yeah, I dare you. There's some questions on there. I mean, going back now, I see how they positioned it.

I could, I would have done better, but it was, they're bullshit to me. I shouldn't have missed any of those, dude. I was like, this is, I wanted to argue. I kept, it's on the clock, right? So it's timing and I'm like, bullshit. I'm sure this is not true. Get out of here.

Some of the questions are, they tried and trick you on a couple of them. They're not all, they're not super easy. No, no, I was actually, I was surprised I thought, wow, if the average, yeah, the average, now we have really smart people in the form. So it makes sense to me to see these 170 scores, people passing and stuff like that.

But, you know, if you're just like an average, Jaina Joe with like no anatomy, physiology, type of background, like those weren't easy. Yeah. I've taken some certification tests that were easier than that. So that easier questions than that. So I can't wait for Justin to take it.

Yeah. I think he's nervous. Huh? I think he's nervous. Probably for you today. You don't have to just want you to take it because, you know, I want to make sure it doesn't cheat. We're trying to help him.

Yeah. I'll do it a little bit. I'll do Yeah, I'll do it. I'll do it. Anyway, just kind of. Yeah, but he's he's what you know, he hasn't been doing the health IQ, but he's been at least he's been using the organifi stuff like crazy. Oh, dude. Yeah, I like him. He's here on board with one of our sponsors. Yeah, but I'm not getting the, you know, the gold yet. So it's coming,, dude. Okay, I think it's about that. I think it's about that. Sean said it should be here either today or next week.

Doug, if that comes up, if that pops up anytime I will record in all day to day, I'd like to know so we can drink some of that today. Yeah, I'll go check it in the box. It's tasty and anti-inflammatory based and calming. Now, do you know when we first got that gold drink, it came here, I opened the box, I saw it in there, one canister. So I opened it up and I tried it and it's very good.

Oh, you're tasty. So I said it down, I tried it, I set it down, and the next get day it was gone. You can, okay, if you guys have not noticed this yet, sounds a little bit of a problem. He's got a problem that he doesn't want to admit or share with me. He is a supplement addict.

He is. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no'm saying? Like I see the rappers and I'm like, I go in the closet, which I organized so I know this right. So I organize all the supplements in order. So they're all nice and stuff. And I go in there and I'm like, every day I go in there and there's like a new box that's opened up and a fucking rapper in there and I'm just like, how it just, yeah. So I've, I've caught him in between sets and things that were recording.

He sneaks into the fucking closet and he sucks down some of these powders and bills. If you were, if you were a good empathetic friend, you'd realize it was a call for help. I'm leaving little flags out there. Yeah. I'm going to have to talk to Sean. I don't know how much longer we can keep these supplements for sponsors. No, I want you to get out of control. The only ones I use consistently are...

No, it's not consistent. That's what's funny. You're always trying something. Yeah, why not? It's like you're making cocktails. Well, cocktails in the closet. You know what it is, you know, we have our sponsors because we like their stuff,

but then we have all these other companies that send us stuff all the time. Yeah. And we don't talk about them. No, we don't talk about them, so we don't like them. Yeah. And look, if you sent us something, we haven't talked about it yet, I'm sorry.

Or sometimes we try it, and we get, I'm gonna say we as a collective here, get so high from it. Yeah, that we can't talk about. Oh, that's something else. That's happened, yeah. That's when we got that cannabis spritz. Well, but, no, not just that,

the first, the green one, that one got me really good, and then the newest soda one, I mean, that, I remember the guy was telling me, he's like, oh yeah, one can, like nothing. I drank like a half a can of that stuff and I was lit, dude. I'm like cannabis smoker, dude. I smoked pretty regularly. They make some of these things like too strong. Too strong. Too strong. Too strong. Too strong. I want to be able to enjoy the whole so I don't know what the soda and have half of it. What does that tell you about the market? Oh, I just don't. There's running it. Well, not just that.

Well, when I ran the clubs, this is what was the challenge, right? So when we started, when we started them, we were trying to like legitimize them and appeal to the, you know, 70 year old grandma that has arthritis and, you know, people that are like, that, and then like this young kid who their parent comes in, like,

we really wanted to provide this like professional environment and it just wasn't there yet. And wasn't a that they were they represented the 10% the 90% where people that were just trying to get the strongest I was gonna say it's shit competition did you see who can put out the strongest absolutely absolutely where cookies are 10 docers and show you that I'm pro legalization I'm pro do whatever you want to your body. There's definite benefits of cannabis But don't fucking bullshit me and tell me it doesn't have addictive properties when you've got motherfuckers taking who need 50 do a hundred milligrams a THC in a serving just to feel high just to feel it You're addicted homie. Yeah, you got a problem and there's a lot of people with a problem with this kind of stuff

Yeah, yeah, I will and you know, and it's a sensitive place to touch right because most people start with it Just like anything else because they're medicating something some condition or whatever that hurts I'm and but it's no different to me than seeing somebody who gets addicted to paying killers and starts with that like safer I understand yeah, absolutely. I'm probably not gonna kill you all that stuff, but You've got a little bit of an issue going on. Let's be honest, it is addictive. Anything that, anything that you like is addictive. It doesn't have to have necessarily physiological addictive properties.

Well, you can be behavioral based. I mean, you get behavioral addiction to it for sure. Which, I mean, I'm always very aware when I catch myself though, when I find this like, I just naturally go to go, have my joint at five o'clock at night every single night and I catch myself doing that back to back nights. It's like, okay, like, I don't need to do that every single night. You know what I'm saying? Like, this is not one of those nights where I really need to set the it. You know what I'm saying? No, but I will say this. I'll make this argument all day long and I guarantee, I'll bet, I'll

bet money on this that we are going to start to see because now it's, it's easier to study. There's more people using it. We are already seeing now. There was a rare condition where if you use too much cannabis, you develop this condition where you have this constant vomiting, no joke. And it's result of overexposure to phyto cannabinoids. We're now seeing it on the rise, because people have more

access to higher potencies of cannabis. They're using lots and lots of it. It's not toxic, so they're just pushing the doses. Now you get more and more people where we never, this was a very rare condition. We're seeing it on the rise now where people are going to the hospital and they're like, I can't stop puking what's wrong with me. It's because of the abuse of these phyto-canabinoids that are found in cannabis. But they like to say that there's no physiological dependency.

That's also bullshit. The reason why we have cannabinoid receptors in our body in the first place is because we make our own cannabinoids, called endocannabinoids. If I'm taking something externally constantly, it is not hard to understand that my body will start to reduce or eliminate its own production of Canabinoids so I'm now going to develop a

Dependency because I am replacing what my body supposed to be making with its own endocannabinoids So now if I go off I'm gonna go off I'm gonna go through this with draw period which can be Mild if you compare it to the withdrawal that you go through with opiates and alcohol and all that other stuff. But it's still, it's still is in, you know, it's still a challenge for some people. And if you've, I depends on what, so hey, bro, if you need 50 to 100 milligrams, it's not because you're tolerance is higher.

It's because you've been smoking a lot of fucking weed. Like it's just time to back off for the crazy part though, what I love about cannabis is you take like three days off in a row Dude and it's and it's like back to day one again. Yeah, it's crazy You know, so it's not like it takes a ton to like reset that it's it's not like it's not like pills or alcohol like you go through that Like I've been through that like that's a mother fuck. Oh, that's coming off that is crazy sweats and chains Oh, you can actually die. Yeah, that's crazy. Like coming off weeds, like, no, it's like a little bit of discipline.

Like dude, pass on the joint for fucking two or three days. You're gonna have some weird dreams for a few nights. Yeah, some vivid asleep. Some vivid ass dreams. That's what you guys about my dream the other day. I never remember my dreams. I never remember my dreams. Let's interpret them.

And I had this. I do, I helped them. And I had this vivid dream. We were all in, we're at some like, I don't know where we were, right? We were at like, somebody's garage. Is this the one where you had sex with Doug? No, no, no, no, sorry.

That's an old dream. I don't want to interrupt that. It's easy to interpret, that one's easy. That's just, I wish straightforward. We work through that one. So this dream, and I never remember these things, I swear. So it's always fascinating to me, like if one sticks to where,

not only do I remember it in the morning, but I can remember to repeat it or share it, to me that doesn't never, that hardly ever happens. So this one we're in this garage, someone has like a little at home gym working out, and for some reason like we're there right away, like I don't know why, you guys are all there too, you guys are kind of standing out in the front of this house

and I'm in the garage talking to the guy. And he's a fan of the show. He's a music mind pump fan. And he's telling me how he found the show. Like, oh yeah, I used to follow Craig Caperso. He's a put him in, oh yeah, Craig, it's my boy. And we're kind of like chopping it up back and forth. He's like, man, I don't want to sound like really

silly or anything like that. But could I get an autograph? And I go to give him an autograph. And I can't fucking sign my name. I can't, I just, my hands don't work, I can't figure out how to put it together, like, and it's fucking freaking me out. Like inside, like, I'm trying to act cool in front of him,

like it's no big deal, and like, I'm, it reminds me, right? The only dream I could ever remember that reminds me this was when I was a kid, and I haven't had this dream since I was a kid. When I was a kid, I used to have that dream where my mom would drop me off for school, I'd get out of the car, and then also I'd be naked,

and then I couldn't run away. Like people would be chasing me, and I couldn't run fast enough. I also numb in slow motion, right? So that was a dream. So it was that feeling of anxiety of not being able to, like get away, it was the same feeling that I had with signing my name.

So that's not hard to interpret. I know, not at all, right? I think it's really funny though. It's funny because so there's a lot of theories on dreams and what they mean. And sometimes they mean nothing and sometimes, and what, what happened, the one that I subscribe to, the one at least that resonates most with me,

is that you'll have a feeling or an emotion inside of you. And when you sleep, your brain tries to make sense of that emotion, it creates scenarios. Totally agree with that. So if you're super self-conscious, if you don't like the way you look, if you feel like you're ugly, you may have a dream where your teeth are falling out,

or your hair's falling out, or whatever. If you feel like you're gonna be exposed, like, I don't want people to know about me, I don't want people to see what's going on. You may show up naked somewhere, right? Yeah. What yours sounds like to me, and I'm not an expert in this,

but it sounds to me like there's an anxiety or fear of not being ready for success. Like, it's gonna things are gonna explode, you're gonna be successful, and then I'm gonna fuck up, or I'm not ready for it, or it's the anxiety surrounding it. Doesn't necessarily mean it's a bad thing.

If anything, I think it's good because it shows that it's coming to the forefront. Well, you're thinking about it, right? Like I definitely agree with you. And then if you really were to pull the unpack the dream, like I had just recently talked to Craig the day before. So that makes sense. I'm always seeing you guys,

so it makes sense that you guys were in there. I watched Juju work out in his garage all the time so the garage setting kind of looked like his garage. You know what I'm saying? So there's a lot, and I've had people ask for autographs and things like that. So it's like all those, and that's happened more recently than before, right?

So all these things are like fresh in my mind, and this is my, this is like you said, this is my mind trying to piece it all together like what I'm feeling. That's interesting. You said the one about like losing your teeth. Mine wasn't losing my teeth, but it was grinding to where my teeth were like crumbling

when I was talking to somebody, and my teeth were just coming and they saw dust. Yeah, like turned into powder, and I'm like oh I'll go I'll go I'll go now I need dentures woke up and oh my god that's horrible yeah dreams are interesting

mysteries interesting fucking mysteries man like you go to sleep first off if you think about sleeping it makes no evolutionary sense. It literally makes no evolutionary sense. Think about it this way. You are constantly at threat with predators and stuff. You need food. For most human civilization, we starved all the time. You need food.

You should probably, it would benefit you to not sleep. It would benefit you to be awake and to work and to search for food and to hide and to be aware of your surroundings. It makes no sense to be in this state where shit can sneak up on you, eat you where you're eight hours of the day or whatever you're wasting, you're not doing anything.

And you're just sitting there in this, this, this, this, unless like we're, unless we're tapped into a huge operating system and it makes sense that we have to charge up everything. We gotta charge in, every, either that or yeah, or you unplug, right? That's when you're off the video game.

Right. You're playing a video game for, you know, 16 hours or whatever, and then for eight hours, you're burning the car truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck truck So more recent studies show just one night of not sleeping and the vast majority of people subjects in the studies have Display signs of schizophrenia totally healthy people. Yeah showing that they're growing crazy after what missing one night That is crazy when that's like the I mean the form of torture like half the time They're just like fucking with people like as they're sleeping. It's awake. Well, bro There's you guys ever you guys are we just I just had this the other night Katrina and I both did her and I were up by four in the morning And we like worked all day here. She worked a long old day

Then we came home. We had a ton of mine pumps up to where we worked it We worked all the way till like midnight and I remember it about like eight o'clock or so We both kind of looked at each other. We were acting goofy like we were just all of a sudden I went beyond like when you get beyond tired to get kind of delusional a little bit And you just things are silly and goofy and I have this like new I find that fascinating It's happened to me multiple times when I've pushed through like when I should go to sleep. There are some scary Studies from the Soviet Union and from Nazi Germany on

Sleep deprivation because they did some experiments on people Scary shit if you look up and I tell you I warn you if you read up on some of these studies You will have trouble sleeping because it's they're terrifying What's happened to some of these people just from sleep deprivation? It's good like psychotic. Oh, they do crazy horrible. I don't even talk about some of the stuff that they would do to themselves and to other people and the psychosis that would and after like a few days, after a few days of sleep deprivation.

Oh wow. Yeah, really scary stuff. So anyway, I wanted to say to you guys, because I have more time in the car in the mornings now because I don't take carpool anymore. You got to lay low just for a little bit more. I didn't know that ticket goes up after after like he keeps going up. Oh, if I'm not mistaken, because this is a pattern that I've had in the past.

You have to wait like three months or what? I think yeah, because at one point I got three carpool tickets. It's probably a year actually. And I think they double everything. Because that's what it is with the speed. So I almost lost my license when I was a kid when when I was 17, from like speeding tickets, right? It's four tickets, well, I don't know what it is now, but when I was a kid, it was four points.

It was four tickets in a year. Like if you got nailed for four tickets, so I had three, I got the fourth one, and so I went to the court to fight the fourth, because I thought, well, even though I had no leg to really stand on, it was like, fuck it, I have to do it. I gotta try and fight this because if I don't, I'm gonna lose it for a year.

It's gonna get suspended or whatever. And so I show up to court and luckily, the cop didn't show up, so they threw it out. And so I was like, oh, save my license, taken. But we're suspended, yeah, I did. It was suspended, so that's when I was younger. You had more than three tickets in a year? Well, dude, do you know how much I used to pay

for car insurance? So I drove a... There's a Gaico commercial. No, exactly. Are we sponsored by Gaico now? We should be. Hey Gaico, I drove a Volkswagen Golf VR6. So it's like a little rice rocket

or whatever, even those German, you know those little type of cars. It was considered a performance car and did insurance, but it's like a little you know rice rocket or whatever even those German, you know those little type of cars I it was considered a performance car under the insurance, but it's not anyway. I Couldn't get insurance for it. They wouldn't give me insurance for it So through a kind of a weird loophole or whatever My dad was insured with my Volkswagen so I could drive it, but I had to have insurance So I got insurance for my dad's 1978 Chevy work van. So I got insurance for my dad's 1978 Chevy Workvan.

So we had this big Workvan, nor under normal circumstances, how much do you think? And all of it without the windows. Oh yeah, yes, exactly. How much do you think it would be to ensure a car like that that is old and whatever, it'd be like 50 bucks a month, 20 bucks a month, right?

Cause it's not an expensive car, it's not, it's a big van, right? That's the only thing I could get insurance for, number one, and it didn't cost me 50 bucks a month. Do you guys know how much I paid when I was, let's see, 19 years old, 19 and 20, 21 years old for my dad's 1978 work van? I paid over $1,200 a month.

What? That's how bad? That's how bad. No, that and also my driving record was so bad. You actually paid that? Well, I would want to be able to drive. I had to. So I paid $1,200 a month on health.

I had special insurance for high risk drivers. Wow, mine was really bad and I was nowhere near that. Whoa. I think I peaked out at like 400 some dollars, which was over a thousand crazy. Like if you're a kid, you know, teenager, you know, it's like all my money just so I could drive. I was over, but you know,

luckily I wasn't making a ton of money, you know, managing gyms and stuff at a young age, but and part of it was because the first gym that I managed was in Salinas, cause they gave me the small club, right? Cause I'm like, I'm fucking flying on the rail. Oh, Bryce, to put the cruise control on 105 miles an hour all the way down

101 and then I got tickets in that double fine zone. Yeah, just don't go to through King City. Yeah, oh I can I got three tickets. Oh, I 100% have at least at least seven or eight tickets in the my entire time of going because I used to go to Cal put my girlfriend went to Cal Paul. That's like their number one source of revenue. Yeah, they get you by the plane. The plane got me. Yeah, I've been. I've been. The planes got me and they've came up behind me.

They've whipped around going the opposite direction. Like King City is a fucking business. It's because he used to go visit down to say Cal Poly. And I also think with me and like an asshole I drove in high school, I drove like hundreds something to rice rock. We had a tracel piece of shit. You know, I drove wrestling into the Geo red fucking rice rocket with fucking stickers all over it's

Allure target Yeah, like you had like 200 horsepower Back then it was Yeah, you know what you want to hear what bullshit it is though? What an you want to talk about any Fishing bullshit system to get people to drive the speed limit. It's all about collecting money and paying people salaries for this bullshit because the reality is if we really wanted people to not speed, you would just have speed limiters

on all the cars. As soon as they get produced, this car can't go faster than 75 miles an hour. Problem solved. Part of it is people say that sucks, but the reality is if they really want to slow everybody down so they don't speed, that's what they would do.

But they don't do it because then they'd have to eliminate jobs. They'd be able to do it. Yeah, come on man. Right, right, right. Fucking boy, they like it when you speed. Yeah, there's nothing in give you a ticket. You know who's going to be against automated self-driving cars? Big time.

A lot of. Highway patrol. Yeah. You're going to have, oh, dude, you're going gonna have a lot of issues with police because no more DUIs, so that's gonna reduce work. You're gonna have nobody, you know, sitting on the side of freeway, watching people speed. Great. You know what's funny?

I'll be interested in these. I'm gonna ask some of my buddies that are CHPs and sheriffs and cops what they think about that because that'd be interesting to ask. I know we have a lot. There are unions will be against it. Well, I didn't say, I don't know how much they would be against it, though, because I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of them don't like that part of the job.

It's probably, they have to do it, you get quoted at that. Right, right. As soon as they see, though, as soon as they start to see that they're looking at, oh, we're cutting this many positions because we don't need anybody now to do this, then they'll be against it. As soon as it threatens your job, your livelihood, your regular way of life, because we don't need anybody now to do this, then they'll be against it.

As soon as it threatens your job, your livelihood, your regular way of life, that's when people don't like progress. Because now, I tell you what, when cars were invented, people who made wagons were pissed off, 100%. Because now they have no business. They're not making wagons anymore.

You need to save my job. So taxi drivers protesting Uber. There are cities, you know, you need to save my job. So like taxi drivers protesting Uber. There's cities, you know, there's cities that ban Uber because of these taxi unions and shit. Yeah. Fuck out here. Yeah, Austin's like that. Yeah, that's right. You know, it's weird too, talking about like, you know, police and law enforcement and all that. Like, you know, that those cities that actually have predictive crime algorithms now that have kind of taken over and like, this is becoming a thing now where it's like they can actually like.

How do you guys feel about that? I'm kind of pro-trying, you lay. I think it's kind of cool. I think if they're not infringing on anybody's liberties, then do it. Yeah. I think when they start infringing on our liberties and they start enacting, I think if you're using it like this, like, okay, when we look at this, just efficient over the last 10 years, you know, more crime happens

in this area by 75%. So at this time of night, you know, so we're gonna make sure that we just patrol here. Yeah, let's just patrol here. No, that just makes sense. Right, this way. But if it turns into like, I'll give you an example, random DIY checks.

So they have a stop. And I know the arguments that helps reduce, you know, dad saw that stuff. But when there's stop and I know I know the arguments that helps reduce, you know, death, all that stuff. But when there's search and seizure without probable cause, that's an infringement of liberty. So if they say, if the algorithm says, you know, males between this age, this race or whatever, therefore, let's go search in these people randomly because that's where algorithm says, now we are giving up an essential liberty. And you don't want to go down that fucking path.

I don't care how effective it is because when you give up liberty for safety, you end up with neither. That's just historically how it works. So I love the algorithms. I just don't don't infringe on my liberty. Don't bullshit me and say, hey, to keep everybody safe,

we need to wire tap everybody, we need to be able to have access to everybody's email, everybody's phone, we need to be able to go through your mail, we need to be able to go in your house whenever we want, to make sure you're not a bad guy. And if you're not doing anything wrong, you have nothing to worry about, that argument is what the, so it's what the communist did, it's what Nazis did,

it's what all tyranny, this kind of christian conversation reminds me of one of the questions that I picked today. Yeah, that we have come up. Yeah, that's great. Before we get in there, I want to say real nice thing about both of you guys. I really, in the car today, because I was in traffic, because I wasn't taking carpool, what I was going to say is, I really appreciate, one of the things I appreciate about both of you guys more than anything, is your willingness to step out of your comfort zone and to challenge yourselves.

I was thinking about you Adam doing right now, going through your low testosterone, saga and having to deal with all that. And I know what a challenge that is for any man, but especially to somebody who used to identify so much with being muscular and strong and all that stuff. And how much alcohol it accolades at those thing brought you. I really appreciate both you guys doing that kind of stuff

and stepping out of your comfort zone. It challenges me, it makes me a better person, and it humbles the fuck out of me. And it's rare you find individuals that do that with such grace and without sitting there tooting their own horn or identifying with it, just doing it, fucking awesome. So I wanna say, I definitely think that's something

that bonds all of us. I think that was, you talk about we're all very different. I think part of why people enjoy this show is because we couldn't be more different in a lot of other areas. Probably the thing that that bonds us the most would be that those traits, I think, I think it's one of the traits that I think everybody is attracted to the other guys about. And it sounds weird to say that, but it's true. You know, that's. I think that is, there's not a lot of people that do that. And a lot of people make excuses or like you said, a lot of people want to, if they do do those things, they want to tooth their horn or look at me or I feel sorry for you know I'm saying it's just like, you know, everybody kind of handles their shit.

You know I'm saying everybody handles shit and is always stretching themselves. So you know I 100% agree with you. And I appreciate it. We only get better if we all have that shared common interest. Well, part of it is selfish. Part of the reason why I appreciate it, is I get to see you guys do this, and then it makes me do it more myself.

So I benefit from what you guys are going through as well, because you do it with such grace and such in humble ways. So I appreciate it. Thank you, dude. No problem. Doug, bring on the sensitive bird, please. Give me a hug, Bird. We call it a plan.

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Quikwa. Alright, our first question is from Andrew Beth. I'm constantly being told that lifting weights won't make women bulky, but I can just look at a weight and put on muscle. And I, an exception to the rule, is it genetic? I love this question. You like it, girl.

I love this question because I have heard this statement at least a thousand times. At the time? At least a thousand times in my career. Yeah, at least that is funny about this. It's still, you know, is there. You know, it's funny about this. So yes, I have also, all of us, right? We've heard this so many times from women.

The reality is it's such a small percentage of people. I can count on one hand the amount of women that I've met that do build muscle like this. And, but it's there on testosterone. But it's countless how many women say that they can do this. So, we're not, not discrediting what you're saying. You could very well, you could be the exception to the rule.

You could very well be a genetic anomaly. The reason why we're saying this though is because 99% of the time when women say this, it's because they lift weights and they gain body fat. And they say, oh, weights make me bulky. And it's like, no, watch your nutrition and then see what happens. Because you could gain as a woman,

you could gain a solid eight pounds of muscle, which by the way, if you were gaining, if you're a man, if you're a man and you gain eight solid pounds of muscle, you are kicking ass. You're crushing. Well, let's put that in muscle. You are kicking ass. You're crushing it. Well, let's put that in perspective. I can't remember where I read this article but they talked about the average professional body builder

that's on anabolic steroids and is a genetic freak is extremely happy with adding 10 pounds of muscle a year. A year, a year. On anabolic steroids, genetic freak, training like a fucking maniac. If they can add 10 pounds of lean mass every single year, that's a huge feat. So put that in perspective.

Like you're probably not the genetic freak, you're probably not running a bunch of steroids, but more of that, it's your own perception of yourself. And a lot of that is distorted because we see our, like our pant size, right? Our legs also, we're wearing these, our favorite yoga pants or something. And they feel tighter than they were.

And they feel tighter than they were. And also, you go, but let me tell you on, there's so many factors that can manipulate that. You could easily have taken in some extraceodium the day before and drink an extra glass or two of water. And now all of a sudden your body's holding on to so much water.

You could have ate 50 more grams of carbohydrates that day and now your body's pairing and holding onto more water. And now you're, so there's a lot of things that you could be doing that makes it feel like you're getting fatter, but you're really not getting fatter or getting bulkier. What's happening is you're holding on to a little bit

of weight, which could be water weight. Or if you're lucky, you're building some muscle. And if you're building some muscle, you're only speeding your metabolism out, which is only going to help you lean out. But it definitely, if you're eating in a caloric deficit and you're lifting heavy weight and lifting to doobie bulky, you're going to build an incredible physical. Yeah. And I want to address the genetic freaks in a second,

but first before I do that, I'm gonna give you an example that's kind of the reverse. I was so afraid when I was working out for years, especially when I in early days, I was so afraid of losing weight. I was so afraid of being skinny that if I lost a half a pound or if I felt any semblance of being smaller, I freaked out to the point where I never got shredded for decades. I mean, lifting weights from 14 till now,

the first time I really, really, really got shredded, I think I was like 28. Oh, dude. That was the first time. I've shared that I went 30 years with never trying to lose body fat. Right. 30 years in my life, I lifted to build muscle and get bigger because I always thought.

So afraid. So afraid. So at one point, I got, I faced that fear. I let myself get lean. I felt smaller in my sweaters. I felt smaller in my shirts. Oh my God. I'm getting skinny. And then next thing I know, I see definition of my my shirts, oh my God, I'm getting skinny.

And then next thing I know, I see definition of my muscles. Next thing you know, I'm getting ripped. Next thing you know, people are telling me I look bigger and it helped me get over my fear. Now women, many women are on the other side of that. Yeah, it's exact opposite. Yes, they're so afraid of gaining any kind of weight or size that for them it's, oh shit, I'm getting bulky.

And part of the problem is, look, women's clothes are designed for women without muscle. If you have any kind of shape to your body, any kind of glutes, any kind of hamstrings or quads, any kind of delts, you put on your regular women sizes, they don't fit you all of a sudden. Like, oh fuck, my clothes don't fit, I'm getting too big. That is such a rare thing to see in women.

Like I said, I can count on one hand, all the years I've worked in fitness, and I worked in fitness. In other words, I worked with female trainers. I worked with female competitors. I worked with people who are all more genetically gifted than the average. And on one hand, I can count the amount of women I've met where I'm like, wow, you really do build muscle like a man. Now, if you are that genetic freak and you do gain eight pounds of muscle, which is a lot. If you gain eight lean pounds of muscle without a single ounce of body fat, you'd be barely bigger.

Barely bigger because muscle is so dense. It's a very dense tissue. It's not like fat. If you gain eight pounds of body fat, it's, you could see it, it creates a lot of space. Eight pounds of muscle, you'll be a tiny bit bigger, you're gonna feel harder. I guarantee that the bulky feeling has to do

with calories, carbs, sodium, and water. I guarantee those are the things that are making you feel that way, which I tell you what, I couldn't break out of this. So I can totally relate, I totally understand, cause just like Sal, this is the exact same thing except from the other side for us, right? And it wasn't until I actually decided to say, okay, I'm gonna get as shredded as I possibly can,

who cares if I lose a bunch of muscle, that's not the goal. That was a very hard transition for me to make, and it was a mental struggle. And if it wasn't for the fact that I was going to get on stage and compete, I don't know if I would have ever done it. So I can totally relate and understand the challenge that it is mentally, because you see yourself a certain way, you get on the scale, you see these little things go up and down. But it's amazing how much we can fluctuate day to day based off those things I'm talking

about with calories, carbs, sodium, water, all that stuff will fluctuate your body day to day. And it's not a true sign of muscle and fat just because your clothes are fitting in a certain way. And the only way you'll break this is you'll have to just give in and say, you know what I'm going to train this way. I'm going to trust the process. I'm going to lift like I'm trying to be bulk.. I'm gonna lift like I'm trying to be bulky. I'm gonna lift like I'm trying to build muscle for a while, but I'm gonna eat like I'm trying to stay lean and be consistent with that long enough.

Watch what happens. Watch what happens. But you can't do that for one week or two weeks. And then that's it. That's not. So this experience, similar to like my girlfriend. So my girlfriend, I wouldn't say she's one of the people that I've, one of the women I've seen

that builds muscle like a man, but she's definitely up there. She definitely builds muscle way better than most women I've ever met. She's got this ability just to put on muscle. And she's built like she can put on muscle really well. But she was also afraid of being bulky and big. And so, I've been with her now for a couple of years

and she's dealt with some metabolic damage and we've brought her calories up in her metabolism sphester. But she never really allowed herself to go above, I'd say, 1800 calories. Now, that sounds like a decent amount, but for a woman that lifts weights and works out almost every single day who's got a decent amount of muscle,

it's really not that many calories. Way more than what it was, she used to gain weight on anything over 1100 calories, but now she's consuming 1800, she was relatively lean working out, whatever. And so recently I've convinced her, just fucking go on a bulk, let's bump your calories up and see what happens.

So she's been doing this for a little while and not weighing herself. She hasn't gone on the scale at all. And so in her mind she's like She would say things like god in my arms look like really good And I'm like well, you're built probably you're building a little bit of muscle I'd be telling her like you're putting on more muscle like this is really cool She's like, oh, you know, I know I've gained a lot of weight, but that's okay And she's kind of talking herself out of it. I've gained a lot of weight, but that's okay

I've gained a lot of weight, but that's okay. So the other day I told her tomorrow I said when you go to work, because she trains at this gym, I said, step on the scale, let me know how much you weigh. She's like, okay, so she goes over the she weighs herself. She weighs, I think, a pound heavier, maybe two pounds heavier. Mostly the result of the fact that she weighed herself later in the day and had clothes on.

So I said, well, there you go. With probably, you know what happened? She lost a little body fat, a little bit of body fat and gained some muscle. But in her mind, she's like, I'm consuming 2200 calories a day. I'm getting bigger and I got to be okay with that. And that hadn't happened. She's stripping out right now. To train an eye data for three years before we made this switch for her because I learned a long time ago that like, you know, who am I to impose, you know, me and what I think you should be doing training wise, like, and she was a run three to five times She and she treated her workouts the same way that she approached her playing basketball. She was an athlete all the way through college.

So everything was balls to the wall. And what sometimes that she was in great shape because she was balls the wall and her diet was out in and then sometimes she wasn't so great because she was eating off all off the rails, but she was still always training. So when we first started dating, this is just kind of the cycle she went and she was always in good shape. I could train as never been, like I never saw her fat. She never got above 14, 15% body fat for a female, which is really low.

But she just assumed that her shape of her body, the way it looks, would never change. I said, well, you've never really trained, you've never really trained to sculpt your body. And she's like, what do you mean? I don't, I guess I do. I do weights. I go, no, you don't. You do like cardio with weights. Like that's all you're doing is like you're building endurance right now.

And stamina, you're not building muscle. Like we're not sculpting your body and shaping you. Like you got it. You go, with you build some muscle, you could change the way you, you look. And she's like, nah, and she wouldn't, she just was not having it. And one day she finally came to me and she goes, okay, what would you do?

And the irony is now, the woman does not run. Okay, she doesn't do any cardio whatsoever. She doesn't cardio to walking on the treadmill, okay? Or walking on a hot, we do hike all the time. She eats 2400 to 2600 calories a fucking day. And she's not a big woman. And she's not a person for. And she's in this isn't this a gross generalization. But like have you guys found like in your career that most of the time women have the hardest time resting and going through like a strength phase. Of course. Yeah, because it's been tattooed. It's been tattooed

in everybody's hardest time to get it. They got a burn. You got a burn. You got a burn. If you want to burn fat, you got a burn. You it in there. They got a burn, you got a burn, you got a burn. If you want to burn fat, you got a burn, you got a burn, you got a move, you got a move, you got a move. And that is exactly the her mentality. Now it's great, I love having her talk to women like this because she can relate so much and tell them, like listen, I thought the same thing too. And now all she does is squat, deadlift, and good morning,

so everything. It changes everything. Yeah, I mean, once Courtney is the same, and good morning. So it changes everything. I mean, once Courtney is the same thing with you guys. And it's easy. Once they buy into it and they see what it does to their body, it's like, wow, it finally starts to resonate. But it takes a long time to get that, you know, to penetrate. It's the exact opposite, but same thing that I went through.

I was so afraid of missing a meal, or so afraid of not stuffing, I got to the point where if I didn't feel stuffed, like if I didn't feel like, fuck, I just ate a whole bunch of food. You're gonna lose. Yeah, I'm like, oh, I gotta eat real quick. Like I had to feel like I'm stuffing myself all the time.

Or that's how I feel uncomfortable. How many times did you make this decision? And this is exactly, again, the exact opposite. The women that are in her shoes, this is what they do. You and it is the opposite of what we do. I would, I would weigh myself in the morning after noon, not like, because I was wanting to gain so bad, right? And if it was afternoon time,

and I knew at that time, like, where my weight needed to be, so the next morning I woke up as heavy or heavier and so a lot of times You know, I get busy with work. I'd be working for like six hours straight a fucking miss two meals in there I get on the scale holy shit. I'm a pound and a half down behind and so I'm driving home and my decision of what I would eat Oh god, I would jack in the box. Yes, I would go to McDonald's and I would get two big Macs and 20 piece McNugget and I make flurry because you know what I was so afraid that I would lose muscle. I just got it I heard it right now. Isn't that crazy? But no, listen, listen, listen, this is the same thing that she goes through But the opposite, right? So these women that get on the scale and they look and they go, oh shit, like I'm I'm

I've already put a pound on and all I had Was a couple glasses of water and hardly anything so what do they do they get on a treadmill and run or they don't eat They skip a meal or they just have a salad instead. It's like they don't feed their body what it needs the mind games You play with yourself are so hilarious first off we're the same person you tell these stories like it's just like I'm it's what exactly what I did I to, I would weigh myself with my clothes on before I went, before I took a shit. Why? Because I'd be heavier on the scale.

There's, you know, women will not weigh themselves unless it's in the morning, in no food, naked. Fasted, yeah. Even though they know that if they gained a couple pounds because they have clothes on and they ate a meal, just if fucks with them so much that I'm not even gonna step on the scale, I already ate a meal and I got my clothes on. I would do the same, but the opposite,

like oh no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, yeah, I gotta eat first before I weigh myself cause I wanna make sure that scale says. Right, right, so silly. It is crazy, but it's a mind fucking a half. I would be willing to bet everything that I have that you're probably, I just looked at, I each her profile is private, but even just looking at it, I can tell she's, I mean, she'd have, that you're probably, I just looked at, her profile's private,

but even just looking at, I can tell, she's, I mean, she'd have, if you were one of these genetic freaks, you'd have a fucking neck, you know? You'd have a neck in traps and you look crazy. You're not that chicken on, right? You're doing a linebacker. Yeah, and honestly, if you're like,

Sal's girl or Katrina too, can put on muscle pretty well. But there's still like, Serena Williams. Yeah, there's a woman that I could see that builds muscle like crazy, right? But she's still like Serena Williams. Yeah, there's a woman right that I could see that builds muscle like crazy, right? Right, right, but she's rare right that is super rare and you can see those girls You can see those girls. I mean there is have to live weights. Yeah, it's very obvious when when there's a girl that has this That's just agent just like the with guys. I feel like the guys I mean men and women are the same here as far as the the spectrum of

Genetic freaks versus average Joe's, you know most of us are all average Joe's and then every once in a while you see the guy who doesn't follow a nutrition plan has terrible program. They stand out. Yeah, but he's got fucking perfectly round dealt and checked. So it's, think of it this way, if you are one of those women that literally has a genetics to build ridiculous amounts of muscle works just too much, okay. Go do it. Hold on. If you are one of those of muscle works just too much, okay? Go do it. Hold on.

If you are one of those women, it's as rare, okay, I'll make this and I'll stand by this. It's as rare as seeing somebody who's seven feet tall. Now, walk around outside, tell me, actually, think to yourself, how many times besides going to an NBA game, have you ever seen someone that's seven feet tall? It's so rare that if you saw one today, you'd remember it. In fact, you probably remember that one time you saw someone that was seven feet tall. It's so rare that if you saw one today, you'd remember it. In fact, you probably remember that one time

you saw someone that was seven feet tall. That's how rare it is. So you probably are not this. Most people are average Joe's, but they identify with the extremes because that's where the insecurities lie. Right? Like if you were to ask me as a kid growing up

the entire all the way to all this 30 years old, I would tell you that, oh, I'm for sure a hard gain or hardest of hard gain. Yeah, hardest of hard gain. And then same thing goes on the other end. If you're somebody who feels like you touch, well, no, there's probably a lot of other factors that are coming into play. And the biggest factor is your own mind and fucking with yourself. So, you know, all I would give as far as advice with a client like this is, trust the process,

you know, throw the scale away for a little while, train like you're trying to build, train like you're trying to be bulky. I dare you to, but eat like you're not. Don't eat like you're trying to bulk, but also don't starve yourself, feed the body. It needs nutrients to build muscle because if you're starving yourself calorie wise

and you're lifting real heavy too You're still gonna slow that metabolism down again. It'll get adapted on the fat anyway. Feed it eat but eat good whole Nutrient dense foods and lift heavy and see what the fuck happens. Yeah, trust the process All right, the next question is from fit Nina 22 What are your thoughts on carb cycling for fat loss in comparison to intermittent fasting and maintaining consistent daily intake? Is one better than the other in terms of reaching both optimal fat loss and metabolism? We have to address that the intermittent fasting in there is this is what I don't like about it, I.F. This is what I don't like is because it's been sensationalized so much. Now, yeah, and it's become a diet now.

And when it becomes a diet and you're doing it for the intentions of losing body fat, now it's more closer to an eating disorder than actually a healthy thing that you should be doing. And I know that's kind of hard to swallow that when you, if you're listening right now and you love intermittent fasting, but really intermittent fasting when it comes to that level where you're using less of a lice.

It's called intermittent for reason. You're supposed to intermittently inject it every now and then. It's not supposed to be something that you live by all the time. Our body needs all these nutrients, especially if you're lifting weights and you're exercising. So right out the gates, if you look at it like that, because carps cycling and intermittent fasting

are totally different. Yeah, before I address comparing them, I'll say this. My thoughts on carps cycling are, it's great. I think all cycling is great. I think you should cycle all your macros. I think you should cycle your calories I think you should cycle the times of day. We I think you should cycle protein. Fasting. Yes Because think about it. You know, it's funny So I'm glad you said that Justin about about protein because nobody ever wants to touch that one, right?

If we so far up until now What we're finding for for health for optimal health, and to some extent, optimal performance. What we're finding is if we feed our bodies in ways that our bodies evolved eating, that we will have a good balance between performance and health. Now, for sure, 100%, no way in health, for most of human civilization,

somebody to need the same grams of protein every day. 100%. Yeah. I guarantee you, I guarantee you somebody whose 200 pounds isn't like, you know, for most human civilization, I eat 180 grams of protein every single day. That's what I do every day.

That's so unnatural, it's ridiculous. There's no way we did that. So we did that. So we killed the same animal. Over and over and over. Yeah, no, there's no way we did that. Everything was cycled. Everything followed the seasons. You killed the same animal over and over and over. Yeah, no, there's no way we do that. We did my macros. Everything was cycled.

Everything followed the seasons. For most of human civilization, we ate what we could. So what was around us, what grew, and what we killed. That means we cycled fats. That means we cycled carbs. That means we cycled proteins. That means sometimes our calories were high when we had food. And there were long periods of time when we had no food, so we had very low calories.

This is why fasting, prolonged fasting, occasional prolonged fasting has been demonstrated for unhealthy individuals to have profound health benefits. When I say profound, I mean, it's probably one of the single most effective anti-cancer things you could do for yourself, to the point where the leading researchers on fasting, like Dr. Walter Lungo, consider the fasted state and alternative operating system. In other words, when you fast, you turn on a different operating system where cell, autophagy, dramatically ramps up. That's the automatic program cell death of cells that are older or mutated or whatever.

So it's like this cleaning out process. You activate stem cells. And then when you refeed those stem cells, turn into new healthier cells. We've now, we've observed, and this is old science, that when you go on a prolonged fast, like three days, four days, five days long, that the organs will shrink, the liver will shrink, in some cases the liver can shrink to half its size, then when you refeed yourself, it comes back.

It grows, yeah. By the way, it doesn't reduce its function, so you don't have reduced liver function. It literally is like old cells die, boom, replace with new cells. It's one of the best things you could do occasionally. Now, the daily fasting that people are doing, where they do every single day, they become dogmatic about it. There are some health benefits, but I will also say that doing it all the time every day, the returns have to diminish.

Not just diminish. Adaptation machine with everything. It makes total sense to me that the people that and I know this is gonna roll rough on some feathers because I know some people love intermittent fasting so much they do it every single day, but I'm sorry if you're doing it every single day your body's probably pretty adapted to that and the major benefits that you were getting when you first started doing that have diminished. Now doesn't mean you're not getting benefits. I'm not saying that and I'm not saying you can't do that. All I'm saying is the real things, the real stuff that were benefiting from is by intermittently injecting it and then stretching it out there. And not only that, but in the right context of let's say HPA access dysfunction, high cortisol

levels, cortisol resistance, consistent fasting makes all that worse. It's not going to benefit you in that situation. It actually makes it worse. It makes it worse makes all that worse. It's not going to benefit you in that situation. It actually makes it worse. It makes it worse. Added stress. It becomes an added stress on the body. It becomes, you know, increases your cortisol release and does all these other things. So, so that's all I'm fasting.

Now, comparing carb cycling with intermittent fasting to, for health and all that stuff, they're both important. I recommend utilizing both of them. The reason why I like fasting for some of the benefits I talked about, I also like fasting for some people for the mental benefits of breaking the chains of food. Now for some people that actually can create a worse

relationship with food. So if you're somebody that avoids food because you're scared of being fat and you tend to go into anorexic route, fasting is not what you need to do. But if you're somebody that avoids food because you're scared of being fat and you tend to go in that anorexic route, fast thing is not what you need to do. But if you're one of these eat every two hours, can we just say right now that carb cycling, intermittent fasting, ketogenic diet, vegetarian diet, paleo diet, zone diet, fucking Mediterranean, every fucking diet, everything out there, I think everybody should experience it. I think you should not all the diet, someone more crazy, I think everybody should experience it.

I think you should. Not all the diets, some of them are crazy. Well, no, all the ones I named right now, right? Not the cookie diets. Yeah, you don't need to do the cookie diet, but you know what, maybe try that for a little bit and see how you fucking feel and connect the dots. That's the point is that whatever you do,

it's not, do not attach yourself to a single way of eating as better than something else, learn to go through these diets, learn to go through these diets, learn to go through these structured ways of eating, and learn to connect the dots to what it does for your body and how it makes you feel. Absolutely. I think it's along those lines you have to find what's homeostasis for you. So whatever you have responded to the best, remember that.

Remember that and come back to it after you go through another process and you're challenging yourself, just like optimizing the body. And we talk about this somewhat where, I wanna find what's working best, but now I wanna stretch my abilities and my capacity a little bit more. Right, well, and I always go back to the example

of when we went through the whole ketogenic process But that's exactly what it is we did that There and it's not that the ketogenic diet was is so great or it's so bad because that's what you right now What do we see right now like I was our boy laying the day posted talking shit about the high fats and everybody again Everybody wants to be in a camp by the your pro keto or you're not it pre no it's not that It's how about you go through it and pay attention to how your body feels and oh shit, maybe you were probably grossly under eating fat for a long time and now you feel fucking great. It doesn't mean that the

ketogenic diet is the diet for you. It means that your body was lacking fucking fat and now you gave it or you were over saturating it with too much fucking carbohydrate process foods and carbohydrates. And now that you reduce it, it's not the fucking diet, it's the macro profile that you changed currently and let it help or use those tools to help connect to you. What are they getting closer to what your body needs? What's the quote, let food be that medicine?

Right. So like I know when to change my macro profile, I know when to change my food intake based on, at this point now based on how I feel, my inflammation, performance, all these different things. Carb cycling, the reason why people like carb cycling so much is it increases sensitivity to carbohydrates, your body responds better to them.

It gives you periods of maybe more fat and take when your carbohydrates lower. People do notice increased fat loss with it, probably for the reasons that I just highlight it. Leptin and grell and benefits like that. So, if you're too consistent all the time, not a good idea with nutrition, I think you should cycle in and out of all those different things, identify what they do for you, know that your body will change and circumstances will change, and along with those, your diet

should change. Next question is from Jazzisaur. Thoughts now that the FCC has voted to kill net neutrality. Oh, yeah. I can't believe you have this question. I wanted to get to you wanted to get here. You want to go here? I did want to go here because one, there's a lot of confusion around this. Yeah.

And I've read and watched a lot of fucking videos and shit on both sides of this. So, and I can argue it either way, but I know what I'm pro. I mean, anytime fucking government regulation gets involved in anything, I can't get something off the top of my head that it's been good. No, and here's the, so this is, by the way, for, and this is a lot of people don't realize. Yeah, explain this first before we go into talk to you about that. So the FCC regulates like phone lines and stuff like that. And so the regulation of net neutrality was under that kind of under that guy. So they're using these outdated regulations and trying to figure out a way to apply them to the internet. The principle of net neutrality is that all internet service providers must treat all data

on the internet the same and not discriminate or charge differently by user content, website, platform application. They're not allowed to- Which that kills free market right there. Okay, just not allow a company, one other company, to go in and say, I'm going to do this better We're gonna spend more money. We're gonna build more towers. We're gonna make it more efficient. We're gonna give away more. So fuck you, I want to charge you. Yeah, no, no, it, so this is,

here's the thing, people are like, no, this ensures fairness. We need rules to make everything fair. That's never, let me tell you something. Let me explain something to you. This is not the first time this has happened. This has happened in all growing powerful industries that we've seen since the industrial revolution.

We will have an industry come out, explode, grow quickly, and then they will come out and usually it's promoted by the new industry leaders. So if you have like taxi cab companies, taxi cab companies, lobby to pass laws that say in order to become a taxi cab driver, you have to pay for this, what they call a medallion in some places, to be able to drive a taxi. Now the way they sell it is, we want to ensure that everything is safe, that we're regulated. We want to make sure only the right people are driving taxes. And Uber's a perfect example

why it works better to do it that way. In reality, what they're doing is they're just protecting themselves. So the biggest supporters of net neutrality are the big players in the market, netflix and Google and these big companies. Of course they want net neutrality. It protects them from potential innovation and competition.

This is all industries work this way. It's the alliance of government and big business. Now, some people argue and say, well, we need this because there's only in some places, there's only like one or two ISP providers. We already have a monopoly. That is not because of the free market. I'm sorry, it's not, it isn't because business decided we can only have one ISP. It we already have a monopoly. That is not because of the free market. I'm sorry, it's not it isn't because business

Decided we can only have one ISP. It's your local government It's your local government allowing so many phone lines allowing so many companies to provide this data And that's why there's no competition. It's not the market now Net neutrality says we need to keep everything fair make everything be treated the same. Let's apply that Philosophy to other things in the market. Let's imagine we said, I don't know, all shipping needs to count the same, cost the same. We wanna make sure all companies ship things to you

and they have to be charged the same exact amount. Would we have Amazon Prime? Would we have UPS or FedEx that came out and forced our mail system to compete? Do you know how long it took, by the way? You know overnight shipping. All look like the post office. Bro, overnight shipping, our post office said was impossible. For decades, they said it'll never happen. Then UPS comes out, FedEx come out, revolutionize the industry, create ways of shipping things to your house overnight.

You gotta pay for it. You gotta pay more for it. Of course you do. If you don't have to pay for it, who's gonna invest the time and money to innovate? If there's not more money. That's where innovation comes from. It comes from, they see a market need,

they see people who pay for it, they come in and innovate. Now all of a sudden the post-office can deliver overnight. Amazon Prime is an example of that. Anytime you have government step in and say, this is fair, we need to create fairness. You know what, I tell you what, milk and eggs, staple in nutrition, staple for people.

Those are staple foods. We need to make sure everybody gets milk and eggs. We need to create fairness. By the way, I'm gonna sell this like a politician, okay? Ready? We need to make sure milk and eggs, everybody get milk and eggs. They are nutritious.

People need them. They're staples in our diet. I wanna make sure that everybody has access to milk and eggs. Therefore, no gallon of milk can be sold for more than 75 cents, and no dozen eggs can be sold more than more than 75 cents. We want to ensure fairness, bottom line. Sounds nice, sounds great, right?

If you're the average person, you're listening to that going, wow, they're gonna pass a law and miraculously make milk and eggs cheaper and everything's gonna stay the same where you have all the sacks of it. There's always a cost of it. All of it, right. What is the effect of that now? What we have done now is I've sent

an artificial signal to the market saying that there is no more value in producing more milk. There is no more value in producing more eggs or better quality eggs. We're gonna achieve shortages. As a result, less producers are gonna go in the market to create these products because there's no money involved. And now, milk only costs 75 cents

if you could fucking find it good luck or wait in line for three hours to try and get it. This is how, this is the mentality around socialism. This is the mentality around a lot of these things. So, when the FCC comes out and says, we're gonna make it even playing field what they're doing is they're killing innovation. Now, the fear is that Netflix or companies like Netflix, like Google, whatever

are going to say to you, hey, if you want our super premier service, you got to pay more. Or we're going to charge you now $500 a month because now we're getting charged more because we're sending so much data because now the ISP providers can charge us more. Fucking do it. I dare you Netflix.. Do that shit. Do that shit. What do you think's gonna happen? Now let's say they do do that for a second. Let's say for a second, it just costs more for these things. That opens up the market for a competition.

Yeah, right, for somebody else to come in and make it better. And don't think for a second that the only way you get your internet is through the ISP providers. Because I guarantee you, at some point, and it's already starting to happen, we have innovators figuring out different ways to deliver data to you. Facebook, Facebook is investing money

in fucking blimps that fly over areas that don't have access to give people free internet. Why? Why would Facebook? I'm still waiting on Google Wire. Why would Facebook want to give people free internet? Why would they pay to deliver free internet? Think about that, because it benefits them. It benefits them to provide these services. And the reason why the internet

of all the things we can think of in modern times, nothing has grown faster or innovated faster or has produced more wealth in a short period of time like the internet. It's been incredible. Nothing compares. If we looked at internet web pages just 10 years ago compared to now, they're almost unrecognizable. Look at the products that we use in tech. Look at the price of tech. Do you know in 1978, I think, when the Walkman first came out, in 1978 dollars, I'm not even adjusting it for inflation, was over $300 to buy a Walkman.

Back then, it was over $300. If we adjusted for inflation, something like $500, something, right? You know, and today, you could get a Walkman, I guarantee you could get a cassette player. For a dollar. Yeah. Yeah.

For free. Yeah. No, we want that shit. They'll give it away. That's because technology and the internet have largely been unregulated because it's grown faster. Well, that's going back to your analogy.

Imagine if they did that in that industry right there and they made it fair, like you had to keep it at a certain point. We'd still be listening to Walkmans, right? Imagine it if, yeah. Imagine if, I don't know, imagine a 50 years ago, like rewinding it with a pencil.

Here, imagine a 50 years ago, the government came out and said, hey, close and shoes essential. Everybody needs close and shoes. So, we are going to regulate the fuck out of it and make, we are going to give everybody, we're going to provide shoes and clothes for everybody. You're not going to buy them from these greedy capitalists

who are trying to make money off you. The government's going to provide you with close and shoes. Do you know what your close and shoes would look like? Do you know how shitty they would be? Has anybody familiar with the car, the Soviet Union made? I forgot the name of it, by the way. There was an actual car made by the Soviet Union. Biggest piece of shit of all time,

and you had to wait something like five or ten years to apply just to get it. Meanwhile in America, we had a more free market, not totally free, but more free market with automobiles. And we innovated and created these safe, economic, amazing vehicles in the same period of time it took the Soviet Union to create this piece of shit that they deliver after you apply for for 10 years.

Ridiculous about the Treban. There it is. Yeah, I was gonna say it wasn't the UGO, because as you get slotted. Yeah, so no, you don't want, you don't want, and listen, here's the other thing. The government has been trying now for 10 years at least to figure out a way to get their hands on the internet because it scares the fuck out of them. You didn't even talk about what I think

the scariest part about this is they can also censor the information that's being provided on these things. So if all of a sudden Netflix becomes a huge supporter of Donald Trump, then they only provide stuff that supports him. And then there's anti-hillary or someone else, or you can flip that on its head. If Netflix all of a sudden gets into bed with Hillary, then they can actually filter the information that you can get through their services. So there's a complete bias that way too. You don't want that. Well Well look at what's already happening with YouTube and how they're trying to filter all

of the swearing and they're trying to filter all the different messages people are putting out. So it's like, who's the say now somebody could come in and we could do it on a different platform versus now we're stuck. They just killed business for a lot of people. So telecommunications, your phones, were when phones were first created and invented, the, you know, it was kind of unregulated, and then the government stepped in to protect, right?

We're gonna protect the people. My fucking ass, how many places do you live where you have? You can provide earmuffs. Look at, you know how long it was where the only phone provider you had in an area was 18T. Like if you didn't go to 18T, you had no phone. There was no other, I couldn't shop a bunch of different, and that's because of regulations.

We were limited to like one service provider in a different areas. 2014 it was, I think it was Obama who urged the FCC to reclassify broadband internet as telecommunications. That's smart. What they were trying to do is trying to classify internet as telephone because now they have all the controls already in place. They're trying and that was just part of the whole plan of getting their hands in the internet and for every single case when the government gets their hands on something, they sell it with good intentions. It's for the uninformed or for the average person, it sounds like a good thing and those regulations only grow, only grow, they get their hands on it more and more.

And nothing scares the government more than the internet. The internet is anarchy. It literally is anarchy. You can go on the internet, you can search almost anything, you can read almost anything. People can share things, it can be shared. I love that.

Instantly, it is anarchy and they've been trying. There's been several bills that have gone through Congress where they've tried to for our safety, right? And they always name it something like the Patriot Act, for example, doesn't have anything to do with fucking patriots. Yeah. You know, the net neutrality has nothing to do with net neutrality.

It's all about, you know, getting their hands on. They try to position it, like it's over trying to help you. You vote against this, you're not a patriot. And by the way, the net neutrality laws passed two years ago. So how was the internet before two years ago? It was fine. It's gonna continue to be fine. Companies are definitely gonna try doing different things.

I guarantee you're gonna get these piecemeal companies you say, okay, fine, if you pay only this much, we'll give you just these websites or just this. Let them try it, they'll probably fail because people want everything. Or maybe they won't, maybe some people will like paying less for that type of stuff. Maybe there'll be services with way better stuff

or whatever. Let the competition continue and watch what happens. No, I, sorry, FCC did the right thing, I think. Next question is from protein power ranger. Do you think that when we were children, we knew how to eat intuitively, but life and dietary pressures from others messes us up? That's interesting question.

I don't know, fuck. You know why that's interesting is because animals have an animal instinct, right? So if you took like a dog and you had, and they actually do this, right? There's some people that actually go to this extent. I know there's companies that do this where you can plant trees and different plants and stuff

that are inside your backyard that if the dogs having stomach problems or the dogs lacking super certain nutrients, it'll naturally go to the things that it needs. And it goes to the grass sometimes. Yeah, right, when there's stomachs upset, they eat grass and make themselves throw up, right? And it's not, you don't train your dog to do that.

It just knows to do that. So I could see the argument of, but the problem with this is that babies are the, and you just started with this other day, Sal, was like, babies come out, we're the only species that requires the assistance from one of the only ones. Right, right, that required, like without,

we would die, if someone just had a baby then left us out in the middle of the desert, we would die. Like, right, that required, like without- It's a fetus. We would die if we just, if someone just like had a baby then left us out in the middle of the desert, we would die. Like, you just said you should. Yeah, we wouldn't be able to do shit. Where if you did that with an animal, there's a 50-50 chance that animal would survive, right? That whatever baby animal it is. It's interesting, because if you put shitty food out there,

that's like, it'll hook them in. So it's some kind of like sugary cereal or cake or whatever, like like to a kid, they're gonna consume the fuck out of it. And then they're gonna want that more and more and more and more, where I'm sure at some point, it'll fill the ramifications of that. And their body will get sick and maybe that'll lead

to better decisions, but yeah, that's an interesting thought because I think I don't, I think that it's, I think instinct isn't, they haven't learned the actual, like, you know, the process of what feels good if, you know, it's the exposure and itself is definitely think that we can, we can train that pal, we could train that in our kids early on. Like, I think it's crazy. Like, okay, so right out the gates, I think probably, I don't know, with the percentage of people that use like, Gerber foods, you're already, like now we're already giving them something process

in a natural way. If you, I know some people take the extra step to grinding up. People don't wanna hear that. Right. No, nobody wants to hear that because it's easy, it's convenient for all of us, but you're already starting to fuck them up

in the wrong direction as far as changing their palette for processed foods and so at that. And the ideal way would be to probably grind up some real fruits and vegetables. And I know some, I know some parents that have done that, right? Yeah. The kid doesn't know any different at that age. You know what I'm saying? But they do want you to give them that fucking ice cream.

Are you giving that candy? And you see the response and their face right away. Their eyes light up and they get off the trigger. Yeah, that's crazy. So I think, so I think we underestimate our natural instincts. I think we're all born with a strong level of intuitive eating. I think when you take an infant

and you place them on the mother's bosom, it seeks out the nipple and it drinks the milk. Nobody teaches it to do that, it's instinctual. I think babies are instinctually attracted to sweet because sweet means, not poison, usually means safe. Babies and children are automatically repelled by bitter because a nature bitter means potentially poison or whatever. I think, and this is, you know, most anthropologists will say this,

that although we didn't have baby food, what we probably did is we probably chewed up the food and spit it back in our baby's mouth. One of the reasons why a lot of times you'll get that urge to like bite down and grab and grit your teeth when you see a cute baby, like you want to bite that, oh, I don't want to bite that baby. Some anthropologists think that's instinctual because it's, we use the chew our food and then give it to the baby.

So we, this instinctual need to want to grit. That's great. That's great. Yeah. Now the problem is that the environment is not the same environment that we evolved in to attrust our intuition. So a baby or a child who grew up in a natural environment will put things in their mouth, of course.

That's what kids do. Part of it's building up the gut floor and all that stuff. But they'll probably wanna eat and chew and swallow the sweet thing that they found, because again, it means safe and whatever. And it was probably a piece of fruit or some piece of vegetable that was safe to eat or whatever or breast milk.

In the current environment, that means most processed foods that didn't exist before. So that intuition is still there, it's just in a completely different- It doesn't serve you as well, it's in a different environment. You know, it's just in a different environment. It's a mix signals because it's artificial, like we've manufactured.

I don't know if it's different food, or it's heightened, right, is what it is. It's just like we talked about this other day, like, you know, I have a heart, I like diet coke, and I know why my body's addicted to it, it's because of how sweet the artificial sweetener is. I don't even like regular sugar. Regular sugar is not strong enough, right?

It doesn't give me that same sweet taste because I've acquired that, right? Now, somebody else is going, oh, God, I hate that taste. Well, that's because you haven't. You haven't become addicted to it. Well, we do the same thing with the kids. That sweet, like Sal saying is right.

It's safe, it's same similar signals like the milk signal, only it's amplified by a thousand times, and you're already starting to get them adapted to that signal. So now, yeah, of course it's not. And the palette, the palette actually, they're showing lots of evidence now that shows that the infant's palette starts developing in the womb,

right from the mom. Which makes sense. It makes sense because it makes sense that a child or that a baby would be born enjoying the food that their mother ate because it's likely that that's what they'll be eating when they're born. It's likely that that's what they're going to be exposed to. So it starts in the womb. What you eat, your child will probably enjoy and in crave or was more likely to enjoy in crave. Then what you feed the baby, the palette starts to develop. So we've talked about this before,

how Asian families, you know, Chinese children who grew up in China, they're not repelled or repulsed by the smell of fish. Like fish doesn't repel them. When you go to a market and it's a fishy smell, they grew up around it, their palette developed around it, doesn't repel them. When you go to a market and it's a fishy smell, they grow up around it, they're developed around it, doesn't repel them. Now, you take the average American

who doesn't eat a lot of fish, you put them in a fish market and like, ah, smells like fish, I don't like that. It kind of repels them. And vice versa, there's foods that the Chinese child might find repulsive in America. I can't, I mean, if you show a can, if you open a can of

chef boy or D, and you show it to a tie in a tie in kids, who eat like traditional food, they'll, they'll, they'll want to throw up. It's so bad because they're not used to, right, pasta being that way or whatever. Whereas, you know, American kids, my thing is, you know, all this when you get, when you get into the like the whole mom and woman thing, which I think is a sensitive, sensitive subject, because it's, all right. They're being judged. Well, yeah, we it's which I think is funny to me because if we saw a pregnant a nine month pregnant pregnant woman

shooting heroin doing cocaine or drinking alcohol, we would freak out. Yeah, right. A judgment. Right. A lot of judgment freak out. Oh my God, she's a horrible mother. But no, but no one would say anything to the mother who slam in a big Mac from McDonald's every single night and pounding all opening these wrappers and eating candy and shoveling her face full of all these processed foods. But they're all it's all getting the bloodstream. It's all getting in the bloodstream and it's all getting over to the baby somehow. Right. And it's getting in it's getting passed on and you you potentially could be setting your kid up for all these already craving these bad foods

or a different palette right off the game. It's tough because I feel, I really, really feel for mothers for a few different reasons. One, it's challenging enough. I can't even begin to imagine what it must feel like to lose partial control to your body, you have this thing grow inside you

that you care about. And it's like, I mean, for all intents of purpose, like this little parasite growing inside you, that is kind of controlling you, your hormones are changing, your emotions are changing, your body's changing, you can't help it. Yeah, cravings, you're hungry, like crazy. Yeah, you may feel terrible about yourself

because of the way, you know, your look or because of the way you feel and you're tired and all these different things which and then you want to go eat something about that That's been that's been happening for thousands of years totally totally but I feel different now And it's only been different for the last 50 to 100 years were an abundance is yes We have an abundance of shit like a woman a thousand years ago had that's the same hormonal shit Same all those things have been on, but she, if she wanted a bunch of extra calories, like it's super easy.

You just have to be selective now. Like you really have to just like understand the best, the best, the different challenge. Right. Completely different challenge. And that's a different challenge with children. I don't think back, you know, I don't think for most of human civilization,

we were totally strict with what our kids ate. Besides don't eat that poison food, don't eat that thing that's gonna kill you. Other than that, it was more like, you better eat, because they're gonna be food. Eat all of it. Yeah, so now we have to manage it. Now we have to manage what our children eat,

because we're developing their palate, we're developing their brain and their bodies. A big part of that is controlling what we eat, when we're pregnant, and what we eat in front front of them and what we eat as a family together and all that different stuff. It's just a new challenge, it's a new modern challenge that we have to face, but it's an important one and it's definitely one that better to start early and later, right? I'll tell you what man, it's you are shaping how your children will want to eat in the future by the way you feed them as children.

That doesn't mean you turn it into a negative thing either. I don't mean sit there and create this crazy environment where you tell your kid they're gonna be fat all the time and it looks like it's gonna be the opposite. But it's awareness. It's just being aware of it. It's like be aware of that. And I'm not shaming any pregnant woman

that goes out and has an apple pie. Like that's not my point of saying that. And I'm sure somebody got offended that way, but the point is just be a fucking wearer that. Like, you are, that is getting in, you're digesting that, that's getting into your blood, and then that's getting served right up to your kids. So think about that, and if you want the best for them,

it's you know conscience. If you know that you already struggle like myself, from the way the patterns and the things that my parents allowed me to eat and do as a kid, now I struggle with it my entire life as an adult, If you don't want those same things for your kids, then think about that when you're consuming food that you know that you're sharing with them. Absolutely. Check this out. Go to YouTube, Mind Pump TV. We post new videos all the time. In fact, we've had a few controversial ones up there recently. Get in the comments and

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